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2503475 No. 2503475
While thinking of a discussion topic to mull over at work I thought it might be interesting to discuss which pony is which ponies best friend. Though I quickly came to the conclusion that this isn't really debatable. While all of the mane cast are friends on some level, there are easily three mutual best friendships among the six.

Here they are (and why):

Twilight <==> Apple Jack
First seen in: Apple Buck Season, (though it's hinted at in the opening for Ticket Master). Their relationship is based mostly on a mutual respect for hard work, they also tend towards being the most grounded of cast as well as the most stubborn, making it natural that they would prefer each other's company.

Pinkie Pie <===> Rainbow Dash
First seen in: Griffon the Brush Off.
While their tendency for pranks is their initial bonding point, they're also prone to excitability and (on occasion) acting without thinking. Both are proud of their special talents, but have unfounded insecurities about them, Rainbow Dash in Sonic Rainboom and Pinkie Pie in Party of One. Party of One is also notable for its development of their relationship, after all it is Rainbow Dash that comes to save Pinkie from her baseless depression.

Fluttershy <===========> Rarity
First seen in: Green isn't Your Color, (but hinted at throughout earlier episodes)
The two most effeminate ponies in the cast get along mostly due to peripheral knowledge and interests. The obvious connections being Fluttershy's ability to handle Opal and her "freaky knowledge of sewing." Their elements are also all about selflessness.

That being said, there's a symmetry here in these friendships: all of the three types of ponies is paired both of the other types. Err, to be absolutely clear here I mean to say they're divvied up as such:

Unicorn <=> Earth Pony
Earth Pony <=> Pegasus
Pegasus <=> Unicorn

Totally balanced, I love finding symmetry in things. It makes the OCD in me happy.
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Both of the members of each race have color schemes that are somewhat complimentary as well.

Dash's Coat is Blue, while Fluttershy's is Yellowish. Fluttershy's hair is pink, which is pretty much the only color Dash's hair is not.

Pinkie Pie is shades of pink, while Applejack is orange and yellow. There is a slight overlap here, as both have a decent amount of red shades in their color scheme. However, Pinkie is red mixed with blue, while Applejack is red mixed with yellow.

Twilight and Rarity both share purple hues, but Twilight's coat is the darkest of the mane cast, while Rarity's is the lightest.
>> No. 2503506
>>2503505
Err, disregard Pinkie being red mixed with blue, dunno where that came from.
>> No. 2503507
>>2503506
It's sorta true... red/violet. Just very very light blue, heh.
>> No. 2503508
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I've been trying for a while to make sense of the eye color choices in the mane cast, while there appears to be no perfect symmetry, I did notice two notable things:

One pony of each kind has blue eyes.

Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie have eyes that closely match each-others coat, which is cute. <3
>> No. 2503509
>>2503508
So... they have eyes for eachother?

Pinkiedash is now canon
>> No. 2503510
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>>2503505

Can someone briefly explain this colour wheel thing to me? What's it mean?
>> No. 2503511
>>2503495

I would assume that one of the first things taught to any pegasus is how to stabilize and slow a fall so as to land without getting hurt. In fact, they're probably like cats in that they have more to fear from a short fall that doesn't give them time to react.

This could easily result in a dismissive attitude to seeing a fellow pegasus fall from a height, because they 'know' that even the weakest flier can safely descend from almost any height.
>> No. 2503512
>>2503511
or rainbow could have flew past her so fast, that she didn't notice her falling
>> No. 2503513
I personally like to think Rainbow Dash being a good friend with Applejack. They have alot in common, and she takes naps in her trees for some odd reason. Also, I like how they add a little bickering type of chemistry for these two.. I don't know, they kinda remind me of me and my friend.
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>>2503513

While there's definitely a bond between the two of them it's tempered by the rivalry they share, as such we really see them arguing almost as often as we see them getting along. If Rainbow Dash is going to butt heads with somepony among the mane cast it'll more often than not be Apple Jack.
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Another bit of symmetry.

There's something else notable about the three ponies in the conflict trinity mentioned above (Apple Jack, Rainbow Dash and Rarity.) have something else in common:
All three are associated with one of the Cutie Mark Crusaders. While scootaloo's relation to Rainbow Dash is suspect, it would be unfair to say she doesn't treat Dash like an older sibling.
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Applejack and Rainbow Dash are rather "masculine", Twilight and Pinkie Pie are somewhat androgynous, and Fluttershy and Rarity are more traditionally "feminine". Again with the 3 symmetrical pairs.
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>>2503515
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. Scootaloo's relationship with Rainbow Dash is a lot deeper than just fangirl, if that scene is any indicator.
>> No. 2503518
>>2503517

Yeah, although it's easy to see Dash being annoyed or dismissive of Scoot, it's obvious, to me at least, that she does care. Sounds like about right for a sibling relationship, relation or not.
>> No. 2503519
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Something I noticed a few days ago:

APPle BlOOm
SwEEtie BeLLe
ScOOtalOO
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>>2503518
>>2503517

Honestly, it seems to me that the plan was initially to make Dash and Scootaloo sisters, but it got vetoed by Hasbro. Which makes no sense, because I think Dash would make a very good older sister; she is very protective and loyal to those she cares about, after all.

Dash probably shows up at the end of Showstoppers as a "take that" to Hasbro.
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>>2503519
>> No. 2503522
>>2503519
oh yeah the Stressed-unstressed-Stressed thing is really neat. It extends to most(but not all) of the mane cast as well. RBD,PP,AJ,FS. (Rarity too sometimes depending on who is saying it, but TS has too many syllables).
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>>2503522

Um, I was referring to the double letters.

But you make a good point, too.
>> No. 2503524
>>2503523
oh horseapples, i just noticed that. you had to point it out twice for me to get it.
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>>2503524

Don't sweat it.
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Just for the hell of it.
>> No. 2503527
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The race balance thing goes deeper. Consider this: Who are the fandom's three favorite background ponies?

>>2503519
This just put me in mind of the Robin Williams movie Man of the Year. If you've seen it, you'll know why.
>> No. 2503528
While not part of the mane cast, there's another nice bit of thought put into the ponyville apple siblings.

Their colors mane and coat colors are shared with another siblings coat or mane (respectively):

Red: Big Mac (coat) / Apple Bloom (mane)
Orange: Apple Jack (coat) / Big Mac (mane)
Yellow: Apple Bloom (coat) / Apple Jack (mane)

Also just noticed, their coat color is also organized by age according to the order of the rainbow. (neat.)
>> No. 2503529
>>2503526

GREEN GLASS DOOR, BITCHES
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>>2503480
Excuse crappy MS paint edit, but I fixed your character relations symmetry chart so that the symmetry remains in the conflict section, with reasoning.
>> No. 2503531
>>2503530
Good.
>> No. 2503532
Another bit of Symmetry

Voice actors:
Ashleigh Ball = Applejack; Rainbow Dash
Andrea Libman = Pinkie Pie; Fluttershy
Tara Strong = Twilight Sparkle
Tabitha St. Germain = Rarity

The first two voice actors have one earth pony character, and one pegasus. The unicorns, however,stand on their own.
>> No. 2503533
I've thought to put them in two Triptyches instead of in pairings.

Heart->Mind->Will
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Pinkie->Twilight->Rainbow
Fluttershy->Rarity->Applejack

You see the conflict between heart/mind for one in 'Feeling Pinkie Keen' where Pinkie's intuitive acceptance of the paranormal goes against Twilight's well-thought through worldview.

You can even see Pinkie acting as Twilight's 'conscience' in 'Green is not your Color'!

Also, both of the 'heart' characters have the most ridiculous breakdowns, whereas the two will characters have mostly an existential crisis of completing a particular task.

You can see 'mind versus will' in 'Look before you Sleep'.

Also I guess in 'Party of One', it is the will that delivers the heart from depression... how symbolic indeed.
>> No. 2503534
>>2503530
Too much symmetry up in this b****.
>> No. 2503535
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Arch bait, anyone?

>Tasty symmetry
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>>2503530

If I could be completely honest here, two of the added conflicts on this list seem to suffer from the same problem that >>2503489 mentioned, they're one sided.

Twilight/Pinkie Pie in Feeling Pinkie Keen has been discussed, as such I'll skip it.

In Dragonshy the conflict is entirely due to the fact that Fluttershy is too afraid to be honest, Twilight had no idea until they were right outside the cave and when Fluttershy gives up and walks away Twilight lets her.

As for the Pinkie/Fluttershy conflict is superficial compared to the big ones listed because it's not the focus of the episode and as such it feels a little forced.

A Bird in the Hoof is, however, a valid point. I'm inclined to believe that it holds the same weight as one of the big three. If I could find anything at fault with it I'd say it mirrors the issue with Feeling Pinkie Keen in that it's another episode where Twilight is fighting against a pony's nature. But I'm grasping at straws here, anyone have any thoughts?
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Another thought, the order of the mane cast singing their parts in At the gala:

Pegasus > Earth Pony > Unicorn x2

And they also organized themselves when they lined up. <3 Symmetry.
>> No. 2503538
>ITT: Grown men discussion complex symmetry in a children's TV show
>> No. 2503539
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This thread has so much delicious symmetry.
I can't stand it yet I love it so much.
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>>2503538
Just look which site you're on, silly.
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>>2503537
Who is THIS?

Earthy among her pastel peers, she is striking...
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>>2503541
No she's n-
Hmm, maybe...
Okay, you've got a point.

My guess: a potential idea that may or may not see light of day.
>> No. 2503543
>>2503542
Actually, she and the pony to her direct left are the only two ponies in the crowd that are not clone extras.

... I wonder why they did that. Could they be cameos from the animation crew, perhaps?
>> No. 2503544
>>2503543
This seems likely. The earthy one is definitely very striking, now that you mention it.
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>>2503541

I'd be willing to guess the two of them are either based on, or designed by, two of the more notable animators. The more I look at them they're just too well designed to be your average extra. FiM Wiki doesn't have them named, I guess for the most part they've been overlooked.

Also, I'm proud this made it's way to /arch/! I'm going to celebrate by working on my fanfic. :D
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I wanted to jump in on the whole symmetry thing. I agree with the OP's interpretation of which pony had which best friend. There's even a foreshadowing in the first couple of episodes- like when they're falling down the hill, which pony saves who? Fluttershy grabbed Rarity first, Rainbow Dash grabbed Pinkie and AppleJack Grabbed Twilight. Within this symmetry I think each pony has a polar opposite-

Twilight is opposite of Rainbow Dash
Fluttershy is opposite of Pinkie Pie
AppleJack is the opposite of Rarity

Notice in each group has a Unicorn, a Pegasus and an Earth pony. The reason the three of these are opposite is because
Twilight=studious, level headed, thinks before she acts
Rainbow- outgoing, adventurous, acts before thinking
Fluttershy- shy, soft-spoken, attention to detail
Pinkie- social and outspoken
AppleJack- outdoorsy, works, not afraid to get dirty, tomboyish
Rarity- prim and proper, etc.

There's 2 Unicorns, 2 Pegasus, and 2 Earth

Within their own species, of the 6 friends they're opposite from each other
For instance- Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash are opposites, Rainbow is daring and loud, Fluttershy is sweet and shy
Twilight and Rarity- Twilight is all about brains and logic, Rarity is more about looks and beauty
Apple and Pinkie- Apple is all about work and Pinkie is all about fun.

I had more, I'll think of them later
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>>2504013
>like when they're falling down the hill, which pony saves who?

Sir, you are my hero. I never noticed that, that's a brilliant catch.
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>>2503498

"Don't worry, your Auntie Pinkie Pie will take care of it!"

"I'm a year older than you" :|

#Annoyed
>> No. 2505305
Also, anypony notice that Dash and Rarity have basically NOTHING in common, and are pretty much NEVER seen together unless at least 1 of the other 4 are around?
>> No. 2505307
>>Pinkie is a baker/party planner. Not only are these things unrelated to an Earth Pony's powers, her hyperactive, quick movements make her seem much like a Pegasus, and her ability to bend reality to her will implies magic, a unicorn trait.

>>and her ability to bend reality to her will implies magic, a unicorn trait.

>>bend reality to her will

Made me lol
>> No. 2508219
>>2505305
They're basically friends because they associate with the same set of ponies, its only natural that they get along to some extent.
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If you would split the background ponies you would notice that (for the most part)the models would repeat only flipped for the 1st and 3rd row. Also, The ponies in the 2nd (middle) row are in 3 groups of 2 with unrepeated models as the 1st and 3rd rows are in 2 groups of 3 repeating models. Hope this is with the topic and understandable.
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Wow, I totally thought I wouldn't have anything to add to this thread until the new season. I found another little tidbit of symmetry; At the beginning of Boast Busters we see three of Twilight's friends challenge Trixie and get shown up. Applejack, Rainbow Dash, and Rarity. Making that one each, Earth pony, Pegasus, and Unicorn, also notable for being the three in the mane cast most prone to conflicts.
>> No. 2510334
Both Earth ponies have jobs involving food.
Both pegasi have jobs involving nature.
Both unicorns have jobs selling things. (A bit of a stretch, Rarity sells clothes and Twilight sells books and book accessories).
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