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2517907 No. 2517907
Well, that was one great season, wasn't it?

The season finale is coming this week, and it's called Magical Mystery Cure by M. A. Larson, also known for writing other great episodes such as Sonic Rainboom, The Cutie Mark Chronicles, The Return of Harmony and Luna Eclipsed. The summary of this episode reads:

"Twilight accidentally casts a spell that switches the Cutie Marks and destinies of all her friends. The only way she can reverse the spell is by writing her own magic."

There will be a nine-episode marathon preceding the season finale, which will begin from 6:00 AM EST/3:00 AM PST and ending at 10:30 AM EST/7:30 AM PST, which is when the new episode will air. This is all going to happen on Saturday, February 16, airing at The Hub, so be sure not to miss it! Also, please do not forget to support this show through iTunes!

ARE YOU PREPARED?


Dont forget to visit Bronystate to watch the episode as soon as it airs!
If talking isnt your thing, then the Spike room has no chatbox, while the Applejack and Rarity rooms are generally the quietest of the bunch.
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>> No. 2517908
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Season finale time!
>> No. 2517909
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Juuuuuust kidding. Thread rebuilt, sticky for real this time!
>> No. 2517910
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Illidain, am I prepared?
>> No. 2517911
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Ready!
Bring it on.
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Guys, no. Not ready yet. No.
>> No. 2517914
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>inb4 "It's happening" memes
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I'm ready! Let's do this!
>> No. 2517916
>>2517910
And I forgot to comment that the image looks positively strange, thank you spoiler images.
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Let's do this shit.
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Whatever happens, happens. Let's do this.


Also, is the thing with the "Are ya prepared" mod-only, or can anyone do it?
>> No. 2517919
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I'm too nervous to be ready. I want this season to end with the best episode, but all this hype/shitstorm have made me really nervous. I'm not sure do I want to see this episode ASAP or wait couple months, so I can cool down.
>> No. 2517920
My body is so ready it's sprouting wings.
>> No. 2517921
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I apologize in advance for anything I might say or do after this episode airs.
>> No. 2517922
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This is day of judgement.
>> No. 2517923
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A storm may be approaching.
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A storm may be approaching.
>> No. 2517925
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A storm may be approaching.
>> No. 2517926
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>>2517925
>>2517924
>>2517923
And we must prepare

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>> No. 2517927
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Should I get your speech ready madam?
For the Twilicorn resistance I mean (to-her not for her)
>> No. 2517928
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Well, while all of you are shitstorming here on /arch/ I'll be up on the slopes in Vermont. Won't be able to watch it until later at night. Bagh.
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>>2517928
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>>2517918
Sorry, I snuck it in and edited from 'ready' to 'prepared'.
>> No. 2517932
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  Something tells me that this video sums up what's going to happen in the /arch/ community when it comes to the finale.
>> No. 2517933
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My body is as ready as it's going to get.

Let's do this!
>> No. 2517935
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Please don't falter on this one DHX. If there was ever episode that needs to live up to the high standards this show has earned the right to be judged upon, it needs to be this one.
>> No. 2517936
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My body is infinitely ready.
>> No. 2517937
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SCV ready.
>> No. 2517938
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I'm curious. Are they just gonna swap destinies? or would we get body swap shenanigans on top of that?
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>>2517938
Body swapping would be way too much on top of cutie mark mark swapping. From what we've seen so far, it's just the cutie marks.
>> No. 2517941
Honestly if this episode isn't great it only has the S4 pilot to redeem itself, if neither sticks out as a truly good episode i'm going back to anime, and i have never made that claim before, and honestly i may catch an episode here and there to see if things picked up, but my participation in the fandom will stop, if that makes any sense.
I dont think i'm ready, but whatever.

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>> No. 2517943
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  My ribbons are ready.
>> No. 2517944
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Alrighty then
>> No. 2517945
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Oh fuck...

It is time.
>> No. 2517946
I waited for this episode since summer with the leaked pictures of abandoned Ponyville.
>> No. 2517947
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Body is at maximum readiness.
Jimmies are secured.

I BELIEVE IN M.A. LARSON!
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>>2517941
Leaving the fandom because an episode is bad NEVER makes sense.

M.A. Larson knows his stuff, I'm looking forward to it.
>> No. 2517949
>>2517948
it's not just the episode, the second half of S3 honestly has bored me to tears, and even if this is bad i'm still going to give the pilot for S4 a chance to show me it's not all downhill.
>> No. 2517950
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I'm ready. And not panicked. I'll watch the actual episode first, then decide if I need to get boozed up and riot. The switching cutie marks sounds fun. The other part, we'll see.
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>>2517947
Same here!
>> No. 2517952
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>>2517949

I am in your camp, more or less. For me, Season 3 has just been wasted potential from start to finish. It just seems like the majority of episodes suffer from a myriad of different execution issues that have made things not as fun as they used to be. It's the reason why I'm nervous to all hell about Saturday.

If MMC doesn't deliver, I'll just write the season off as a loss and try to expunge it from my mind. Despite my disappointment, the first 2 seasons were just too good for me to write off the show completely for a half season I didn't like. Then there's the fact that I adored SiP, really, really liked WA inspite of its' ending, liked KCaFO, despite its' flaws and admired how well executed JFS and AFR were. That's at least 5 episodes that I would have no problem watching again, along with at least the 45 episodes thought were very good from the first 2 seasons.

That's 50 episodes of very good to masterful TV. And even in the 15 episodes I didn't think were stellar, only 5 at most were really bad. Put bluntly, they deserve another season to see if the show is still up to a level I deem extremely enjoyable.

And even if Season 4 tanks, Katie Cook is kicking as on the comics, so those will serve as my Pony Content. So unless everything goes to hell, I'm good.

Last edited at Tue, Feb 12th, 2013 15:27

>> No. 2517953
Eh, Up to WA (save for OBA), Season 3 was amazing, after that it had a noticeable drop in quality.
But hey, KCaFO was still good, GPP was almost good, and AFR wasn't really offensive.
It's only the Spike episodes that I really didn't like, and OBA.
Who knows, maybe the finale will actually be good, although I have my doubts on the impact that it may have on the rest of the show.
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>>2517953
Indeed; First half of the season (except OBA) was great. It was just awesome episode after awesome episode after awesome episode.

But then after WA, it got a little bumpy:

AFR was just "okay".
SAYS is the worst episode of S3.
KCAFO was great.
JFS was just "okay".
GPP was pretty good.

I dunno what happened but I certainly agree that the latter half of S3 has been, on average, quite "meh" compared to the first half.

Last edited at Tue, Feb 12th, 2013 15:37

>> No. 2517955
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>>2517948

I have to disagree in a case like this, the finale of a season where a huge change like this is going to happen. If you're that put off by it after watching, to the point that watching future episode might turn out to be tortuous, leaving the show may be a better option than forcing yourself to stay and being negative about everything that happens until those around you hate you.
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>>2517955

Look at it this way, Fluttershutter, if the episode does make you upset, you have at least 8 months to make peace with it. Of course, if you can't continue I'd more than understand. Better to leave in peace, then leave in pieces.

Who knows? You may feel differently after nearly 3/4 of a year.
>> No. 2517957
>>2517954
Yeah, had the second half of Season 3 kept with the quality of the first half, Season 3 would have been the best out of the three seasons no problem.
>> No. 2517958
>>2517956

It's probable that I'd still check out the beginning of Season 4 to see if this episode's hypothetical terribleness was contained to this episode like MMDW was (though I didn't think that one was going to have a widespread impact on future episodes like this one).
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>>2517958
Keep calm and flutter on FlutterShutter.
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>>2517954
>>2517957

I was right in my pessimistic prediction for the episodes post-mid-season-break~ (if...anyone had that screencap that was taken, heh).

I'm pretty impressed by Games Ponies Play though really, at least personally.
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>>2517959

I am calm, actually. Dread doesn't require working oneself up, as I've discovered. When the rage dies down but all the negative feelings you felt, sans anger, still remain, that's dread, at least as I describe it.


There might be a better word for it but I'm not a linguist.
>> No. 2517962
>>2517952
you still have my element :{
>> No. 2517963
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I have this image prepared for Saturday.
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>>2517963
I've been preparing images for this Saturday for years.

I just didn't know it.
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>>2517964
I always hoped it would happen, I knew it should happen, I just never really thought I'd actually get to see it happen...

>>2517963
Sweet delicious tears! Yummy! The tears of unfathomable sadness! Yummy you guys!

>>2517961
Cheer up Fluttershutter! I really hate to see you so down. It's unfortunate something that brings me so much joy can bring you so much despair.
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>>2517964
>>2517965

I still find it a little funny how you guys not only don't mind the big change coming up but you really want it to happen as well.
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>>2517966
Well, I will admit it's happening sooner than I would have liked it to... Personally, I would have saved Alicornication for the series finale. But hey, I will not look this gift-horse in the mouth.
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>>2517967

That just means that her becoming an alicorn won't be the biggest thing to happen on this show.
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>>2517968
And I'm ok with that... Although, I'm not quite sure what could be bigger than Twilight becoming an alicorn. But I've got a few headcanon ideas I'm start fleshing out.
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>>2517969
Ticket returning, nothing would be more epic.
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I'm actually feeling really optimistic.
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>>2517970
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>>2517965

Oh Beardswirl. You and I both knew that there would come a point where one of us would have our dreams for the show come true, even though the other person wouldn't be able to accept it.

Know that I hold no ill will to your teasings in the past about Twilicorn. You didn't know it was happening for sure back then, so you couldn't have anticipated my reaction.



But, please don't let my gloom dampen your utter joy. This is your moment, my opinion shouldn't matter to you. I don't want it to, because it would only make you enjoy your celebration and ascension to your Twilicorn empire less. Just don't think of me after the episode airs, promise me you won't.
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>>2517966
What I find a bit sad is that other fans of different ponies don't see this is as a really good sign. A character achieving a dream and getting a permanent change? That rarely happens in these types of shows. And it opens up so many avenues. We may yet see Wonderbolt Dash. Master Fashion Designer Rarity. Cutie marks on our CMCs flanks. All these things we've hoped for for years, but never really thought would seriously happen in canon.
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I wonder how season 4's intro will change, if at all. Just the same as usual but with alicorn Twilight, or possibly a completely redone intro.
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>>2517973
While I can promise you that I won't let your gloom dampen my excitement, I won't promise that I will not think of you. I'll be hoping that you take it better than you think you will. I truly do hope for the best for you Flutters.
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>>2517973

Maybe you'd prefer it if it was Fluttershy.
>> No. 2517978
>>2517974
since when was it twilight's dream to be a princess? I don't recall her ever showing a great deal of interest in flying, she's just been steadily getting better at magic, which i was under the impression was her dream, to be the next great mage.
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>>2517978
Well you could take it a step further. Twilight was inspired to study magic after seeing Celestia raise the sun. She displays hero-worship mentality towards Celestia, being her most faithful student. It's pretty obvious that Twilight wants to be like Celestia at least on a subconscious level. So while she's never come out and said "I want to be a Princess!" it's not completley illogical to infer that deep down, she kinda did.
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>>2517978
Since it involves writing her own magic, apparently becoming a princess may be the next step of evolution on that road oh god this is becoming like a Pokemon reference.

Uhh...

Anyway, I get the feeling that destiny in the Pony universe is kind. Every pony likes their cutie mark, and I'm sure Twilight would like being a princess.
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>>2517977

I don't want such a physical change to happen to any of the characters. Even if I dislike S3 Twilight, I don't want this kind of power shift to happen to any of the characters.

>>2517976

I do appreciate your consideration for the little guy, but you don't have to. I also hope something happens in the episode, some twist, that restores faith in the show, but it just doesn't seem like we have the time in the episode. It seems even the destiny swapping, the part I was excited about, will only exist as a plot device rather than being the plot. I don't think even M. A. Larson can help my gloom, and thinking of me won't have any positive effect on you.
>> No. 2517982
>>2517980
so only princesses can write magic? But i don't think starswirl the bearded wasn't an alicorn, i thought he was just a unicorn.
>> No. 2517983
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>>2517982

Yes. You THOUGHT so, didn't you?
>> No. 2517984
>>2517983
i'm re-watching a few episodes as we speak to try and confirm/deny this
>> No. 2517985
>>2517982
Because Starswirl already has two horns.
*wink, wink*
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>>2517982
Starswirl the Bearded lived before the discovery of the Elements of Harmony. And the EoH are an integral part of becoming an alicorn, thus he was never able to achieve that level himself.

/headcanon.
>> No. 2517987
>>2517983

I'd just like to say that if Starswirl was an alicorn it would make Twilicorn much less harsh.


But, when I said that, I got a near-universal cry of "shut up with your headcanon Starswirl can't be an alicorn because [X, Y, and Z]."
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>>2517984

Go ahead, but Cadence and Celestia have both been called unicorns before and we've never seen what Starswirl looks like.
>> No. 2517989
>>2517985
>>2517986

Exactly.
>> No. 2517990
>>2517988
Alright, you want proof that Starswirl isn't a Alicorn?
Twilight doesn't wear wings in her Nightmare Night costume.
Bam, debunked.
>> No. 2517991
>>2517990
i heard there was something on hearths warming eve too, but i have to go to netflix to re-watch that
>> No. 2517992
>>2517988
but so far every alicorn has had the title of "princess" and star swirl isn't a prince, (they have certainly never called him one whereas with celestia/luna/cadence, they have all been princesses), hell maybe that's how they decide who gets to be in charge idk.

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>>2517990

They're under the robe.
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>>2517974

And that's the problem I think a lot of other fans have. We've seen Twilight get closer to her dream and becoming an actual adult, as we've seen the rest of the cast grow more childish, or be stuck where they are. The only real exception to this is Rainbow Dash, because I don't trust ANYONE to keep Fluttershy's Character Development past her next focus episode.

Until they show us that the other characters will still matter beyond their basest characteristics when episodes like these come up, you'll unfortunately have that nervousness.
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>>2517994

I wonder how Rarity feels about Twilight living her dream.

Next we'll have Applejack become a wonderbolt.
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>>2517995

Personally, I think Rarity cares more about being shown as a 3-dimensional character at this point. Girl has priorities, you know?
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>>2517996

Yah like finding herself a man
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>>2517997

Oh come on. You can do better than that and you know it.

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>>2517995

Marrying Twilight?

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>>2517999

Twilight? Everyone knows Rarity is down with Fancy Pants.
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>mine countenance whereupon Equestria Girls shitstorm is distracting everyone and preventing an Alicorn Twilight shitstorm...

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>>2518000
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>>2518000

I saw it as more of a mentor thing, but I can definitely see where you're coming from.

Twarity is still best ship though :P
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>>2518003

A very unorthodox ship..

Still cute tho
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>>2517964
>>2517969

The sleeper has awakened.
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>>2518004

My bro!
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>>2518001
>> No. 2518008
>>2518001

It puts things in perspective that no matter how terrible something is it could always be worse. I think that announcement has actually helped with my Twilicorn gloom, replacing it with humans gloom, and, to be honest, even that is being lessened by people making period jokes about it, reminding me that it can always be made fun of to be entertaining a la Star Wars Holiday Special.


These mood swings probably aren't healthy in the slightest, but as long as I'm not depressed or furious I'm okay.


>inb4 I relapse on Saturday at 8:00 EST
>> No. 2518009
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>>2518008
Glad to see you're feeling better Flutters...
>> No. 2518010
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>>2518009

That's it! I ship FlutterSwirl! You guys act too cute around each other!
>> No. 2518011
File 136072627136.gif - (649.50KB , 500x307 , SHIPPING.gif )
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>>2518009

That's it! I ship FlutterSwirl! You guys act too cute around each other!
>> No. 2518012
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>>2518010
>>2518011
>> No. 2518013
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>>2518012

You still like me? I was afraid you stopped caring about me after I offended you a couple weeks back, I'm relieved you still find me shippable even if 441 is my true love.
>> No. 2518014
>>2518012

Ah a Modaka fan!

How are thee?!
>> No. 2518015
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>>2518013

Hatred is no longer a word I try to embrace, unless I must.

>>2518014

I was about to go to sleep myself, I'll check in here tomorrow~
Goodnight.
>> No. 2518016
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>>2518010

Staying true to your element I see.
>> No. 2518017
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>>2518016

It's what I was born to do man.
>> No. 2518018
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I wonder how ponies tap dance.
>> No. 2518019
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>>2518018
Nevertheless with wolverine claws
>> No. 2518020
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>>2518018
>>2518019

Errybody's on Twitter makin' jokes as the fandom is crumbling around them!
>> No. 2518021
>>2518020
Well the whole staff can move on after FiM bites the dust. Now please don't get me wrong, i'm certainly not saying they don't care about the show/fans ect, they have shown more respect for the fandom and skill in the execution of the show than anyone could have asked of them

But at the same time if FiM ends, everyone involved will have no trouble finding other work, and i feel like if it really does fall to pieces i don't want to hold on til the bitter bitter end and tarnish my good memories of the show by watching it limp to it's grave.

But i wouldn't change a thing, the way the show took the world by storm, the unprecedented rise of the fandom, and all the other happenings that if you told someone it would happen before it happened they would think you'd lost it, the time spent smiling, laughing, crying, and even raging with all of you truly has been a pleasure, and even if this is the end, i don't regret a single moment of it, the show has been awesome, and you guys are awesome, i will always remember you guys fondly, even if i don't show up anymore after seeing this weeks episode, because at this point, after all we have been through together, i consider you all my friends, and friendship...is magic.

Last edited at Wed, Feb 13th, 2013 02:44

>> No. 2518022
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>>2518021
>> No. 2518023
File 136075115442.png - (393.81KB , 900x629 , TacticalBookfort.png )
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After hearing leaked song, something have been bothering me. I have a feeling that synopsis and song lyrics tell us more about up coming episode than it's seems at first glance. I have to write my thought down, before I can calm down, so here I go.

First, my ideas who got who's cutie mark:
Applejack -> dress making
Rarity -> weather
Rainbow Dash -> caring animals
Pinkie Pie -> Sweet Apple Acre
Fluttershy -> "party"

Now, in synopsis it said "The only way she can reverse the spell is by writing her own magic", and in song we hear how everything is turning ok. BUT, for me it doesn't sound like Twilight is using her magic to turn everything fine (like memory spell in The Return of Harmony). And if all they need is Twilight's magic, then what purpose does it make to say "We need your help"?

For me it seems like when their cutie marks and destinies switched, they got jobs they aren't good with, like Applejack making dresses. In song Twilight gathered her friends together in specific order. First is clearly Fluttershy before song started. Next is Rainbow Dash, who had Fluttershy's job. Then Rarity with Rainbow Dash's job. After that Applejack who is trying to make dresses. Last one was Pinkie Pie in farm. In other words, they always helped pony that original job is one a next pony currently have.

My idea is that they don't use just spell casting magic to help everypony, but rather magic of friendship I know, what a shock. It's looks like everything turns out fine every time friends got together and I assume it turned out fine because everypony helped pony in trouble to do her current job. This would go fine with other season 3 episode Larson wrote, Magic Duel. There Twilight learned to use her friends help while using her magic.

But how all of this fit with Twilight becoming alicorn and how they managed to "switches the Cutie Marks and destinies of all her friends"? Didn't Twilight said in Call of the Cutie that not even magic can help fillies to get their cutie mark any faster. One might think you need really powerful magic to do such reality altering magic. Maybe it would be possible if they have the most powerful magic known to ponydom --- Wait a minute! What if for some reason mane 6 used the Elements, and then by accident Twilight "switches the Cutie Marks and destinies of all her friends". After all, I would be interested on the Elements, what you can do with them and what not.

Now the alicorn thing. All I'm going to write here is pure speculation and should threat as such. So far most poster have threated her becoming alicorn as if she's turning to completely different being, getting more power than any other her friends. But maybe we have watched it in wrong way. Why are Celestia and Luna alicorns begin with? I can't remember where I read it, but I remember Faust saying Celestia have horn and wings to represent all pony races in Equestria, earth ponies, pegasus ponies and unicorn ponies. My though is that Twilight turning to alicorn is mostly symbolic, showing that with help of her friends (earth, pegasus and unicorn ponies) she can now achieve any goal. I'm NOT SAYING that she'll become any super-goddess. I'm sure she still need her friends help. Her transform is probably physical mark of her becoming one with her friends, ending one of her story arc. She's not anymore learning to be a good friend, she is now a "True, True Friend". And BEFORE YOU REPLY, I'm not saying this had to happens. I still think they could and probably should kept Twilight unicorn and than alicorn Twilight is Hasbro mandate, and this is just my idea of how this transformation can be justified in story lines and reasons.
>> No. 2518024
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>>2518010
Agreed
>>2518023
NO! My fanfic is ruined!!!
Really though I am wondering how they're going to do this, the you said it seems pretty good.
No amount of calming will be able to keep her cool when she realizes what has happened
>> No. 2518026
>>2518023

Well, that mostly does make sense; the one flaw I noticed was, we don't really see Celestia and Luna with friends due to their age.


"It was the magic of friendship" does help explain why Starswirl isn't an alicorn as many people say.
>> No. 2518027
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>>2518023
Well, this seems like a pretty good idea.

Last edited at Wed, Feb 13th, 2013 04:35

>> No. 2518028
http://comicsonline.com/2013/02/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-coronation-concert-event-recap/
Celestia is getting a song !
>> No. 2518029
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>>2518028
Oooh, multiple songs.

Last edited at Wed, Feb 13th, 2013 05:56

>> No. 2518030
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>>2518028

>inb4 441's conflicted emotions
>> No. 2518031
>>2518028
Wait, what?
No seriously, what?
We're going to get two songs, and they don't look to be reprises.

Dammit Ingram, I can't hold all these songs.
>> No. 2518032
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>>2518028
>441's face when
>> No. 2518033
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>>2518028

Holy tea cup! I need to inform the Wanderers abou this.
>> No. 2518034
http://comicsonline.com/2013/02/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-coronation-concert-event-recap/
So, can anybody confirm if this is legit?
Because if it is... I might just about travel to Canada and sell my soul to Larson.
If this bit:
"had multiple catchy songs (including one sung by Celestia! No, seriously, guys, we get Celestia singing)"
Is real, done, tenouttaten, five stars, six disembodied pony butts out of Lauren Faust on a unicycle.

Last edited at Wed, Feb 13th, 2013 07:26

>> No. 2518035
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>>2518034

Looks pretty legit to me, are you sure you didn't already sold your soul for this?
>> No. 2518036
>>2518035
Fuck you white fox thing, Larson has promised me singing Celestia, that is far better than your stupid Faustian wishes.

And I'm not joking, if Celestia does sing, I'm going to give this episode a 10/10, no matter what other kind of stupid shit it pulls off.

Last edited at Wed, Feb 13th, 2013 07:35

>> No. 2518037
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>>2518036

It seems someone else had their wish come true then, I'm going to be busy.

Last edited at Wed, Feb 13th, 2013 07:45

>> No. 2518041
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>>2518028
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzLncSb--vc

>>2518031
>We're going to get two songs
"multiple catchy songs"
>> No. 2518042
File 136076725926.png - (175.77KB , 450x510 , Spike 2-6 (30).png )
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Added Bronystate links.
>> No. 2518043
>>2518041
I did say dimmit Ingram, I thought earworms were his schtick...

A year later and I still catch Smile, Smile, Smile, popping into my head whenever I hear that word.
>> No. 2518044
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>>2518036
>And I'm not joking, if Celestia does sing, I'm going to give this episode a 10/10, no matter what other kind of stupid shit it pulls off.
What if she rap?
>> No. 2518045
>>2518044
Still 10/10.
>> No. 2518046
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>>2518044

She'd replace Luna as Best Princess for the next 1,000 years.

Unless her verse is Soulja Boy level, then she'd need to be banished to the Sun.
>> No. 2518047
>>2518035

Kyubee get out of here.
>> No. 2518048
>>2518046
And thus began the worst rap-off in the history of Equestria.
>> No. 2518049
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>>2518047

He gets on my Laptop when I get distracted.

>>2518045

What are you really expecting her to sing and sing about? In what moment?
>> No. 2518050
>>2518049

Alright... I guess I believe that... for now
>> No. 2518051
>>2518049
I don't know! That's part of the fun! Can't wait to see for what reason she sings, and how.
>> No. 2518052
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>>2518051

It's going to be a long wait... I hope this will help poor Celestia become more popular.

>>2518050

Don't you trust me?~
>> No. 2518053
>>2518051
It's her dying song.
>> No. 2518054
>>2518053
And you will sing the encore if you don't shut your godamn fucking fat face.
>> No. 2518055
>>2518054

How about a battle song?!
>> No. 2518056
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Does anypony knows who this Katie Cullen is? Can we trust her evaluation on up coming episode?

"Keeping it spoiler-free, I did enjoy the episode much more than I thought I would. It was cleverly executed, had multiple catchy songs (including one sung by Celestia! No, seriously, guys, we get Celestia singing), and was overall very fun to watch. Pinkie Pie stole the show, but in Equestria, that’s basically Tuesday."
>> No. 2518057
>>2518052

Hmm...well you are a magical girl... so yeah I do.
>> No. 2518058
>>2518056
I dunno, but it's a site with no ties to the brony community, I doubt that she would give a fraudulent report on a event just to mess with the brony community.
Specially when the website looks pretty legit.
>> No. 2518059
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>>2518055

I expect more of a "Love is in Bloom" moment song from her.

>>2518056

I would like a 2nd opinion from a more unbiased source!

>>2518057

Yay~
>> No. 2518060
Youtube embed play button
  >>2518055
What about 99 Buckets of Oats on the Wall?
>> No. 2518061
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>>2518058
I'm not talking about bias. I'm more concern of her saying "I did enjoy the episode much more than I thought I would". Did she though episode will suck while it ended to be just "meh". Or did she expected awesome episode and end up having even better episode? Or is she just surprised than episode about colorful cartoon ponies is good at all?
>> No. 2518062
>>2518061
Oh, I thought you were talking about the possibility of it being fraudulent.
Well, generally when people say that, they mean that something that they didn't expect to like turned out to be pretty good, and judging by the track record of the show, I think we can expect the episode to be throughly enjoyable.
>> No. 2518063
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>>2518060

STFU Sweetie Belle!
>> No. 2518064
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>>2518060
I would pay lots of money to see Celestia sing this.
>> No. 2518065
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>>2518063
I want full version of it.
>> No. 2518066
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2518066
Got the image from here.

http://www.geekscape.net/geekscape-interviews-daniel-ingram-composer-for-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic

Make what you will of it. I sure have!
>> No. 2518067
Youtube embed play button
  >>2518065
>> No. 2518068
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>>2518067
>> No. 2518069
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>>2518028

Really? That's great news! I think my dread may be lifting because of this-

>>2518066

...
>> No. 2518070
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>>2518034
About that...
That said, Celestia song is happening, this episode is gonna get a high score from me!
>> No. 2518071
File 136078980545.png - (403.55KB , 1280x720 , hoity12.png )
2518071
Sethisto just said in his write-up that:

Daniel Ingram was involved in the whole thing. Musical episode confirmed?

He also said that We even get some fandom shoutouts that have been somewhat absent this season. Dərpy confirmed?

God fucking damnit, why did my father have to plan the Vermont trip for this weekend?!
>> No. 2518072
File 136078986061.png - (737.09KB , 901x805 , My dearest Fluttershy.png )
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>>2518069

Trust me, it will be okay.

>>2518071

The anticipation is killing me.
>> No. 2518073
>>2518069
Sorry, I didn't mean to bring you down again with that image if I did. The image itself was just asking for that caption with the way Twilight was posing. It looked so obnoxiously smug to me.

Also, that might have been the wrong thing to name the image. I wasn't actually raging, it was supposed to be for humor. I did do a double take at the image though, for the reasons above.

Last edited at Wed, Feb 13th, 2013 14:25

>> No. 2518074
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>>2518071

If it's a musical episode then it can easily be ignored!
>> No. 2518075
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2518075
On the one hand... I absolutely detest Twilight as a character...

On the other... I love the music in this show. Looks like I'm going to have to grit my teeth through this one.
>> No. 2518076
>>2518071
My hopes for that Rarity/octavia duet might just prove truthful afterall?! :o
>> No. 2518077
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>>2518076
...For the 193581923rd time, show staff confirmed that as being false. They never said it was happening in the first place, IIRC they just said it would be cool and one of the VA's did an Octavia impression. And then the fandom shit itself and started claiming "RARITY/OCTAVIA DUET CONFIRMED!11" and crap.
>> No. 2518078
>>2518077
Come on, don't step on his hopes, I got my wish, he can have his.
>> No. 2518079
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>>2518077
But atleast fluttershy will turn into a dragon...........right?
>> No. 2518080
File 136079170432.jpg - (25.51KB , 500x450 , NO.jpg )
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>>2518079
>> No. 2518081
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>>2518074

Hardly. Music is a fine venue for storytelling, or have you not heard of opera?
>> No. 2518082
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>>2518081
^This

I actually enjoyed Shrek: The Musical a lot better than the original movie.
>> No. 2518083
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>tfw Vinyl Scratch
>> No. 2518084
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>>2518082
I agree with you on that one.

And I think a musical episode would be the perfect way to express all this in just 22 minutes. Sometimes song just gets stuff through quicker without it feeling rushed.
>> No. 2518085
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>>2518083

No, this is Dərpy's spot! Vinyl can come too, but only if Dərpy appears first!


Dərpy would singlehandedly rescue any and all hopes. It won't have any effect on my view of this episode, but it will reassure me of Season 4.
>> No. 2518086
I guess you can throw a party with Vinyl, Daisy, and Shoeshine.
>> No. 2518087
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>>2518085
Why would you want to see the back of Dərpy's head? That's the most we've seen of her all season.

If we're going to truly see Dərpy again, it'll be from the front.
>> No. 2518088
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>>2518083
>tfw our "fandom shoutout" is just seeing the back of a pony's head for a second or two

Not to sound greedy, but...that's it? Bleh.
>> No. 2518089
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>>2518088

It could be worse.
You could dislike Vinyl, Like I do.
>> No. 2518090
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>>2518089
>disliking Vinyl Scratch
>any year
>> No. 2518091
>>2518087

Wait, that image is the shout out described?

My hopes are fading again.
>> No. 2518092
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>>2518091
No, Seth just mentioned there were "fandom shout outs".
>> No. 2518093
>>2518088

I'll eat my hat if that's the only angle we see Vinyl from. I'll also eat my second hat if that's the only "fandom shoutout" we get.
>> No. 2518094
>>2518093
He did say references.
>> No. 2518095
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>>2518090

Just because she is a white unicorn doesn't mean she gets a free pass, neither does the pile of preconceived fandumb that follows her, with Dərpy out of the way, I wonder if she or Lyra will be the next to go.
>> No. 2518096
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>>2518095
They won't go anywhere, they're not "offensive".

However I do agree with you on all the ridiculous fandumb. But then again, fandumb is bad regardless of the character.
>> No. 2518097
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>>2518096

Agreed.
Certain characters you can't even discuss them or look for pics without running into it.
>> No. 2518098
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>>2518089

I don't even
>> No. 2518099
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People, look what you are freaking about now. Seriously.

Complaining about the back of a head. The back of a head we'll probably see more of. Seriously, at least the other shitstorms going on have a bit of a basis.
>> No. 2518100
File 136080230449.png - (155.72KB , 408x417 , your fault.png )
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>>2518098
This is all your fault Bollox. We could've had Dərpy there if you had just kept posting as her, but instead you had to post as Vinyl.
>> No. 2518101
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>>2518066
Holy shit... It's more amazing than I ever imagined!

>>2518071
If it is indeed a musical I... there are no words. I can't describe the level of anticipation I have right now.
>> No. 2518102
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>>2518100

Then I shall post as Dərpy and they'll have to put her back in, rite?
>> No. 2518103
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>>2518102
Sure, why not?
>> No. 2518104
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>>2518103

Yay!
>> No. 2518105
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>>2518104
Oh god, who could create such a thing?!

>saved
>> No. 2518106
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>>2518104
that pic... Kill it with fire
>> No. 2518107
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>>2518106
No! It may look creepy, but it's still a Cilan!
>> No. 2518108
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>>2518104

>dat pic~
>> No. 2518110
File 136080532642.png - (155.64KB , 500x578 , Strawberry Milkshake.png )
2518110
>>2518104

Even the trees have faces. Creepy.
>> No. 2518111
File 136080561600.png - (227.06KB , 492x360 , 4.png )
2518111
>>2518110
>Even the trees have faces

That's the best part...
>> No. 2518112
File 136080571058.gif - (708.13KB , 500x281 , spoiler.gif )
2518112
>>2518110
>>2518111
>trees having faces
>> No. 2518113
File 136080587742.gif - (297.94KB , 320x164 , Pinkie Pie Laugh the Trolls Away.gif )
2518113
>>2518112
>> No. 2518114
File 136080578550.jpg - (133.52KB , 783x590 , zalgo.jpg )
2518114
>>2518112
>> No. 2518115
File 136080638750.png - (1.27MB , 730x1095 , Detailed Celestia.png )
2518115
>>2518112

That image always tried way too hard to be scary.

It's cute.
>> No. 2518116
File 136080623196.png - (79.35KB , 816x979 , scared3.png )
2518116
>>2518115

It made me pee my pants a bit
>> No. 2518117
File 136080657697.png - (268.71KB , 655x674 , spike_wait was that an insult.png )
2518117
>>2518115
NO U!
>> No. 2518118
File 136080658262.png - (198.90KB , 981x1000 , twilight dont look.png )
2518118
>>2518116
It made me pee my pants a lot.
>> No. 2518119
File 136080750053.jpg - (156.66KB , 1024x768 , daleks.jpg )
2518119
>>2518107
... EXT-ERM-IN-ATE!
>> No. 2518120
File 136080764437.png - (630.56KB , 900x673 , Sun Pony.png )
2518120
>>2518116
>>2518118

You poor sods.

>>2518117

Why yes, I am cute. Thank you!

It's gonna be a long wait until this Saturday...
>> No. 2518121
File 136080778293.png - (433.03KB , 900x900 , diapers.png )
2518121
>>2518118

I recommend a diaper.
>> No. 2518122
File 136080783101.jpg - (82.80KB , 945x945 , dude.jpg )
2518122
>>2518120
>It's gonna be a long wait until this Saturday...

We should play a game to pass the time!
>> No. 2518123
File 136081254115.jpg - (8.53KB , 213x237 , images.jpg )
2518123
>>2518122
What kind of game?
>> No. 2518124
File 136081258242.jpg - (87.77KB , 725x756 , 9.jpg )
2518124
>>2518122
What did you have in mind?
>> No. 2518125
File 136081279078.jpg - (18.24KB , 320x272 , HNI_0035_JPG.jpg )
2518125
>>2518123

How many fingers am I holding up?
>> No. 2518126
File 136081288892.jpg - (93.04KB , 974x869 , future twilight determined.jpg )
2518126
>>2518125
Four
>> No. 2518127
File 136081307071.jpg - (124.76KB , 1000x1000 , rarity_I___.jpg )
2518127
>>2518124
Twister!
>> No. 2518128
File 136081456218.jpg - (859.12KB , 1280x717 , partygames.jpg )
2518128
>>2518124

Do you know how to play "My Father Owns a Grocery Store..."?
>> No. 2518129
File 136081491216.png - (230.05KB , 426x385 , 3.png )
2518129
>>2518128
No... Explain the rules!
>> No. 2518130
>>2518129
Each player takes turn saying "My father owns a grocery store, and in it he sells _". The first person chooses a food that starts with A, then the second person repeats what the previous person said and adds something with B, and so on until Z or someone messes up.
>> No. 2518131
File 136081529882.jpg - (64.64KB , 679x743 , 6.jpg )
2518131
>>2518130
Oh that game... I've called it "We're going to the moon..." and you say what you're gonna bring on the trip to the moon. But yeah, I am familiar with it.
>> No. 2518132
File 136081545106.jpg - (17.41KB , 309x266 , goon.jpg )
2518132
>>2518130

The way I play it you can use any adjective:

Ex. Something that is green, something that is round etc.

But I guess that choice is up to whomever is it!

Who wants to go first?
>> No. 2518133
File 136081583504.png - (114.97KB , 500x535 , jester2.png )
2518133
>>2518132

Basiacally it's like a guessing game. Like guess which food im thinking of.
>> No. 2518134
>>2518133
Jelly
>> No. 2518135
File 136081616903.png - (960.83KB , 1280x720 , 14.png )
2518135
>>2518133
Cheeseburger
>> No. 2518136
File 136081637996.png - (453.50KB , 900x900 , albertwesker.png )
2518136
>>2518134
>>2518135

Gotta start with a hint.
My father owns a grocery store, and in it he sells something green
>> No. 2518137
>>2518136
Celery

Last edited at Wed, Feb 13th, 2013 21:34

>> No. 2518138
File 136081647982.png - (497.94KB , 1277x713 , 1.png )
2518138
>>2518136
Asparagus
>> No. 2518139
File 136081668766.jpg - (44.65KB , 500x664 , are-you-wizard.jpg )
2518139
>>2518137

It was in fact celery...

Your turn.
>> No. 2518140
>>2518139
My father owns a grocery store, and in it he sells something round.
>> No. 2518141
File 136081718124.gif - (147.67KB , 295x210 , what is love baby dont hurt me no more.gif )
2518141
>>2518140
Tomato
>> No. 2518142
File 136081698742.png - (111.55KB , 905x800 , orange.png )
2518142
>>2518140

Orange
>> No. 2518143
>>2518141
>>2518142
Neither of those.
>> No. 2518144
File 136081702270.png - (753.97KB , 1019x717 , ajtimetogetbaking.png )
2518144
>>2518143

Apple!
>> No. 2518145
File 136081702435.jpg - (715.26KB , 1600x2244 , unicorn new years.jpg )
2518145
>>2518143
Onion
>> No. 2518146
>>2518144
>>2518145
Nope. Should I give another hint?
>> No. 2518147
File 136081727378.png - (163.06KB , 900x814 , twilight wearing socks.png )
2518147
>>2518146
Yes! Pizza?
>> No. 2518148
>>2518147
Never mind, you got it.
>> No. 2518149
File 136081730270.jpg - (104.50KB , 412x600 , cupcake7.jpg )
2518149
>>2518146

If you want to~

Grape!
>> No. 2518150
File 136081728415.jpg - (114.34KB , 900x801 , 1332816945539.jpg )
2518150
Ok, my father works at a grocery store and he sells something liquid.

I'll give a new hint every round.
>> No. 2518151
>>2518150
Milk
>> No. 2518152
File 136081738879.jpg - (8.59KB , 200x200 , deuueaugh!.jpg )
2518152
>>2518150

Olive Oil!
>> No. 2518153
File 136081739073.png - (14.39KB , 170x200 , Pinkie Pie Lurkin' Pie 2.png )
2518153
>>2518150

Soda~
>> No. 2518154
File 136081765087.png - (2.30MB , 1920x1080 , 133307573685.png )
2518154
>>2518151
>>2518152
>>2518153
Nope... You guys want another hint?
>> No. 2518155
>>2518154
Yes, beer

Last edited at Wed, Feb 13th, 2013 21:53

>> No. 2518156
File 136081763881.png - (184.63KB , 637x345 , Pinkie Pie I Got Over 9000 Points!.png )
2518156
>>2518154

Orange juice.
>> No. 2518157
File 136081774195.png - (496.42KB , 778x800 , saloongirl13.png )
2518157
>>2518154

If you wanna~

Water!
>> No. 2518158
File 136081779147.png - (171.87KB , 488x456 , rxnface.png )
2518158
>>2518155
This liquid can be "chunky"...
>> No. 2518159
File 136081784920.jpg - (51.07KB , 500x290 , twilight dat ass.jpg )
2518159
>>2518156
It was orange juice... chunky referred to pulp.
>> No. 2518160
File 136081787324.png - (113.19KB , 454x391 , confused7.png )
2518160
>>2518158

Salad dressing?
>> No. 2518161
File 136081780664.png - (519.87KB , 1600x900 , Pinkie Pie Victory!.png )
2518161
>>2518159

Yay!
>> No. 2518162
File 136081784793.png - (142.96KB , 894x894 , closeup2.png )
2518162
>>2518161

Your turn!
>> No. 2518163
File 136081803651.png - (238.03KB , 461x429 , Pinkie Pie Robbing Jewel Stores Is Tiring Work.png )
2518163
"My father owns a grocery store and he sells something long."
>> No. 2518164
File 136081795563.png - (644.47KB , 989x873 , hoity19.png )
2518164
When did this thread turn into an /oat/ thread?
>> No. 2518165
File 136081802750.jpg - (81.82KB , 423x645 , nicolascage.jpg )
2518165
>>2518163

Noodles!

>>2518164
Play with us?
>> No. 2518166
>>2518163
Baguette
>> No. 2518167
File 136081898952.png - (161.73KB , 1500x1000 , Pinkie Pie Sad 7.png )
2518167
>dat feel when the 502 killed our fun~
>> No. 2518169
File 136081875458.png - (88.69KB , 856x590 , Pinkie Pie Vector Let Me Play You a Sad Song.png )
2518169
Oh...nevermind~

>>2518165
>>2518166

Nope!

Hint: They are made fresh.
>> No. 2518170
File 136081881014.jpg - (52.24KB , 522x800 , humanpinkamena18.jpg )
2518170
>>2518169

Burritos!
>> No. 2518171
File 136081887022.png - (190.38KB , 900x1260 , read.png )
2518171
>>2518169
Sub sandwhich
>> No. 2518172
File 136081896619.png - (589.46KB , 1000x1008 , Pinkie Pie THIS!!!.png )
2518172
>>2518170

Nope.

>>2518171

Nailed it!

Your turn!
>> No. 2518173
File 136081904988.png - (282.75KB , 1024x1654 , later taters.png )
2518173
>>2518172
Actually, I need to call it a night... You can go again. It's been fun guys.
>> No. 2518174
>>2518085
sethisto said there are fan shoutouts that had been missing from the rest of the season, that sounds like it have to be dərpy, and an obvious enough appearacne he saw it in one viewing without pauseing or anything.

i stand by that season 3 was being produced during the whole "yamino" fiasco and they left her out because of that, once the fiasco died down and Dərpy was decided to be cool, they started adding her again, perhaps the finale was just made late enough that dərpy could be added again.
>> No. 2518175
File 136081951587.png - (168.45KB , 898x890 , Pinkie Pie Don't Be Silly! What Kind of Human Would be Aroused by This!.png )
2518175
>>2518173

Goodnight, Beardswirl.



Alright, then. Anyone else, want to go, or should I just go again?
>> No. 2518176
>>2518175
I'm down

Who is guessing?

Last edited at Wed, Feb 13th, 2013 22:23

>> No. 2518177
File 136081949434.png - (185.45KB , 516x630 , king.png )
2518177
>>2518174

That'd be sweet to have her come back

>>2518176

im still here
>> No. 2518178
>>2518173
Night.

>>2518175
You can go again, according to Starswirl. Unless Swag wants a turn.
>> No. 2518179
File 136081957047.png - (409.30KB , 727x715 , Pinkie Pie This Looks Interesting.png )
2518179
>>2518176

Say, "My father owns a grocery store, and he sells something [insert minor detail about what item is here]."

Me, Bollox, and Marimo will try to guess.
>> No. 2518180
Ok

My father owns a grocery store and he sells something green
>> No. 2518181
>>2518180
Celery
>> No. 2518182
File 136081975962.png - (139.21KB , 894x894 , Pinkie Pie Vector Oooh, What does THIS Button Do___.png )
2518182
>>2518180

Broccoli.
>> No. 2518183
File 136081979631.png - (491.74KB , 509x800 , igotthisguys!.png )
2518183
>>2518180

PEAS!
>> No. 2518184
>>2518181
>>2518182
No

And a hint

It's a bit of a twist. You'd probably do better with 20Q style questions
>> No. 2518185
File 136082012766.png - (157.76KB , 845x946 , Pinkie Pie Vector This Mystery is Tougher than I Thought.png )
2518185
>>2518184

Alright.

Is it edible?
>> No. 2518186
>>2518185
Yes...But you wouldn't eat it alone

Or eat it at all

Last edited at Wed, Feb 13th, 2013 22:36

>> No. 2518187
File 136082024721.png - (240.18KB , 900x1525 , Pinkie Pie Vector Well This Was Unexpected.png )
2518187
>>2518186

Huh...

Is it a vegetable?
>> No. 2518188
>>2518186
Mint toothpaste

Last edited at Wed, Feb 13th, 2013 22:38

>> No. 2518189
>>2518187
No
>> No. 2518190
>>2518188
Nope
>> No. 2518191
File 136082049011.png - (258.67KB , 431x557 , bottle.png )
2518191
Is it served hot?
>> No. 2518192
>>2518190
Is it entirely green?
>> No. 2518193
File 136082050627.png - (44.64KB , 820x914 , Capture.png )
2518193
>>2518189

Um...guacamole?
>> No. 2518194
>>2518192
Well, the packaging is always green

The product itself is kinda grey

>>2518191
It's not really served
>> No. 2518195
>>2518193
Closest one yet but still way off



I think I made this one too hard possibly
>> No. 2518196
File 136082065459.png - (153.04KB , 953x838 , box.png )
2518196
>>2518194

Does it come in a box?
>> No. 2518198
>>2518196
Nope
>> No. 2518199
File 136082085374.png - (273.78KB , 900x720 , ajchibi.png )
2518199
>>2518198

Is it a fruit?
>> No. 2518200
>>2518199
It's derived from a fruit...So kinda
>> No. 2518201
File 136082105933.png - (300.53KB , 524x424 , Pinkie Pie Not Sure if Graffiti___.png )
2518201
>>2518195

I'll say lol~

Um...is it chunky?
>> No. 2518202
>>2518201
Nope, not at all
>> No. 2518203
>>2518202
Seeds
>> No. 2518204
>>2518203
Nope


Anybody can Tell me if you give up and ill spoiler tag the answer
>> No. 2518205
>>2518204
Avocado
>> No. 2518206
>>2518205
Nope

Hint: it's nothing like guacamole...I was just saying how off people were. Well, is kinda like it, but tangentially
>> No. 2518207
File 136082156329.png - (123.91KB , 663x800 , puddinghead17.png )
2518207
>>2518205

That must be it!
>> No. 2518208
File 136082161761.png - (184.42KB , 679x800 , jester.png )
2518208
>>2518206

What kind of hint is THAT!?
>> No. 2518209
>>2518208
Yeah, ok

It's liquid
>> No. 2518210
>>2518206
I'm running low on vegetables and fruits.

Coconut?
>> No. 2518211
>>2518210
Nope
>> No. 2518212
>>2518210
It's nothing too obscure
>> No. 2518213
File 136082187494.jpg - (48.71KB , 521x537 , cider4.jpg )
2518213
>>2518209

Apple cider?
>> No. 2518214
>>2518213
Nope

Note the packaging is green

Last edited at Wed, Feb 13th, 2013 23:07

>> No. 2518215
File 136082229524.png - (138.19KB , 900x706 , thinkingwithpipe.png )
2518215
>>2518214
>> No. 2518216
File 136082230119.png - (230.97KB , 494x390 , Pinkie Pie Oh, Boy_ Here We Go___.png )
2518216
>>2518202

Alright. I give up~
>> No. 2518217
>>2518214
Cabbage/lettuce? I've got to go to be, so that's my last guess.
>> No. 2518218
>>2518216
lime juice
>> No. 2518219
File 136082276682.jpg - (33.49KB , 836x693 , Pinkie Pie I Can't Brain Right Now_ I Have The Derp_.jpg )
2518219
>>2518218

I was never going to get that~
>> No. 2518220
>>2518219
My first idea was cabbage but I thought that would be gotten in like a post or two.
>> No. 2518221
File 136082262745.jpg - (747.54KB , 447x465 , derp2.jpg )
2518221
>>2518218

Aight im gonna go to bed
>> No. 2518222
File 136082304296.gif - (500.91KB , 500x281 , 128254__UNOPT__safe_twilight-sparkle_animated_bridle-gossip.gif )
2518222
>>2518221
Night
>> No. 2518223
File 136082275742.png - (144.31KB , 277x357 , Pinkie Pie This is The Same Hat I Use in TF2.png )
2518223
>>2518220

Probably~

>>2518221

Goodnight, Bollox.
>> No. 2518224
Goodnight everybody.
>> No. 2518225
File 136082301332.png - (121.72KB , 554x1000 , Pinkie Pie Vector Always Happy to Help!.png )
2518225
>>2518224

Goodnight, Marimo.
>> No. 2518226
>>2518223
>>2518224
I think I'm going to bed too

G'night
>> No. 2518227
File 136082307854.png - (116.76KB , 802x996 , Pinkie Pie Lying Back and Enjoying the Sunshine.png )
2518227
>>2518226

Goodnight, Swagged.

Well, that was fun.
>> No. 2518228
File 136082347129.jpg - (220.00KB , 1150x1053 , 133357625861.jpg )
2518228
>>2518221
>>2518222
>>2518224
>> No. 2518229
Youtube embed play button
  I somehow keep hearing this song as the countdown continues...
p.s., I believe in M.A. Larson
>> No. 2518230
File 136082488124.gif - (382.35KB , 218x223 , done_that.gif )
2518230
>>2518229
>> No. 2518231
File 136086193029.png - (22.63KB , 476x358 , 243081__UNOPT__safe_alicorn_spoiler-s03e13_majora-quo-s-mask_zelda_sparkle_511bc1c07f123bbbe2000.png )
2518231
>> No. 2518232
>>2518231
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQrxH1CuuSA
>> No. 2518233
Youtube embed play button
  >>2518232
>> No. 2518234
File 136086312580.gif - (325.80KB , 1250x960 , 133948166880.gif )
2518234
>>2518233
>> No. 2518235
http://www.tvguide.com/News/My-Little-Pony-Exclusive-Video-1060975.aspx

Let the hype begin in earnest.
>> No. 2518236
http://www.tvguide.com/News/My-Little-Pony-Exclusive-Video-1060975.aspx
>> No. 2518237
Youtube embed play button
  >>2518234
>> No. 2518238
File 136086330354.png - (180.79KB , 894x894 , Rarity what you doing there.png )
2518238
>>2518235
Aww, you beat me to it.
>> No. 2518239
File 136086418887.png - (343.48KB , 900x847 , hoity28.png )
2518239
>>2518235
Why's Vinyl look so odd in that one scene? Her snout and face just.....doesn't look right.

Also, return of Pinkamina, out of the blue? Eh? If she's all sad and annoyed now...why didn't she go all Pinkamina for TMPP?

And cutie marks confirmed for being in command of what the ponies do? They can't say "Fuck my cutie mark I'm doing something else" ? Wat?
>> No. 2518240
>>2518235
Holy shit is Rarity singing voice amazing, although the concept of getting a frostbite over a sunburn sounds horribly painful.

Last edited at Thu, Feb 14th, 2013 10:57

>> No. 2518241
File 136086496237.png - (42.13KB , 378x265 , Whooves - 162.png )
2518241
Repost from /mlp/:


This + the leak of the song = 6.38 minutes.

Average clip before the intro song is about 1.10 minutes.

Let's say... 1 minute for Twilight to talk to Rarity about this whole shit.

Then let's say 2 minutes between this song and twilight figuring out the solution and triggering the other leaked song.

Estimated 10.48 minutes on the cutie mark switcheroo plot.

That leaves roughly 11 minutes to introduce and resolve the alicorn business.

How in the actual fuck are they going to pull this off?
>> No. 2518242
>>2518239
Well, I suppose it's because she no longer has any time for partying and making others laugh, even though she wants to do so.

As for the whole cutie mark thing, I suppose it's because cutie marks are generally infallible, if you ever question your purpose in life, you could just look at it and remember your place in society.
In other words, it's a pony thing, Cutie Marks telling you what your purpose is is common pony sense, you have got to obey it even if you don't like what you do, I mean, it's your cutie mark, right? It wouldn't lie to you, right?
They just can't process the thought of doing something other than following their cutie mark, it's a thing from their society, and it works 100% of the time when there is no magical interference.
I'm sure ponies would have a lot of confusion regarding several things about our society.
>> No. 2518243
>>2518241
Magic.avi
>> No. 2518244
File 136086522282.gif - (202.32KB , 501x400 , 133367912941.gif )
2518244
>>2518236
This is going to be awesome!

>>2518239
>And cutie marks confirmed for being in command of what the ponies do? They can't say "Fuck my cutie mark I'm doing something else" ? Wat?
Wat? I came to different conclusion. Clearly their current cutie marks aren't indicating their true talents. They are probably just lived so long assuming you have to do what your cutie mark indicate that they aren't willing to consider possibility of doing something else. None of them seems like "destined" to do well on their jobs.

I want to believe this is about "Screw destine, I'm going to do what I want to do!". In other words: Even if I have some destine, it is I who decide to follow it or not to.
>> No. 2518245
>>2518239
Sorry, forgot to comment this.

>Also, return of Pinkamina, out of the blue? Eh? If she's all sad and annoyed now...why didn't she go all Pinkamina for TMPP?
I think it's more than being sad. It's probably more of her being depressed than just sad.
>> No. 2518246
File 136086573651.png - (398.13KB , 836x727 , 161597__UNOPT__sweetie-belle_futurama_spoiler-s03e04_thinking_professor-farnsworth_for-science_c.png )
2518246
This song does raise a question, of when their cutie mark got mixed? Synopsis says "Twilight accidentally casts a spell that switches the Cutie Marks and destinies of all her friends", so should Twilight know this right away after she casted her spell? Weren't they in the same place when she casted her spell?
>> No. 2518247
I wonder if this is the return of the cutie mark failure insanity syndrome
>> No. 2518248
File 136086639579.png - (133.13KB , 900x900 , 1_ Dulset smile.png )
2518248
So are there any theories yet on what Twilight will be trying to do when she messes up and swaps everyone's destinies?
>> No. 2518249
>>2518248
My theory?

She is trying to not be a princess.

I think Celestia will tell her that she is going to be a princess at the beginning and she freaks out
>> No. 2518250
>>2518248
Possibly something magic related.
I dunno, maybe she wanted to deepen her ability to do magic, and she performed the wrong incantation.
Or she heard that she was going to be crowned, didn't want to leave her friends behind, and tried changing her destiny.
>> No. 2518251
File 136086672848.gif - (887.34KB , 853x480 , charge.gif )
2518251
>>2518248
This.



I wrote some of my ideas here: >>2518023
It's not all about what Twilight will try to do, but I think the solution have something to do with magic of friendship.
>> No. 2518252
File 136086694468.png - (566.03KB , 585x847 , ~I am greatly disturbed.png )
2518252
Guys.

Ponies have skin, not fur.

I am somewhat more bothered by this than i should be.
>> No. 2518253
>>2518252
They have skin under their coats, silly.
>> No. 2518254
File 136086705160.png - (32.26KB , 945x945 , hoityshrug.png )
2518254
>>2518252
Rule of Funny.
>> No. 2518255
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>>2518253
>>2518254
Shut up with your logic i want to be bothered by something inconsequential.
>> No. 2518256
>>2518255
Time Lord is going to kick your flank once he finds out that you have been posting as Time Turner.
>> No. 2518257
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>>2518255
>> No. 2518258
Time Turner
Timme Turner
Timmy Turner
>> No. 2518259
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>>2518249
That's actually a nice hypothesis. Celestia tells her she going to be princess and that it's her destiny. Twilight get nervous and tries to change her destiny, because she fear she had to abandon her friends if she become princess. She ask her friends help and they use the Elements. First nothing happens, but next day Twilight's friends cutie marks have changed.
>> No. 2518260
>>2518258
I just think that Time Turner is a better name than Dr. Whooves.
>> No. 2518261
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>>2518256
This is me giving a fuck.
>> No. 2518262
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>>2518261
With a banana? Kinky.
>> No. 2518263
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>Your face when all the other song in finale are better than these 2 leaked song.
>> No. 2518264
>>2518263
Well, there is still Celestia's song, you know that one is going to take the cake.
Or would, if Celestia didn't eat it.

Last edited at Thu, Feb 14th, 2013 11:59

>> No. 2518265
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>>2518263
The 3 1/2 minute one was "meh".

This new one was decent.

Seeing as it's going to be a musical episode with like 20 fuckin songs, I'm sure the rest will be pretty decent as well.

And even then, I tend to like songs more after listening to them multiple times. When Smile Smile Smile was first leaked, I thought it was "decent". Now it's one of my favorite pony songs.
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>>2518244

A screw destiny story would be nice.
>> No. 2518267
>>2518264

Our Princess does love her cake... and food play.
>> No. 2518268
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>>2518231
>> No. 2518269
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>>2518264

This wait is getting too long! You, I'm gonna stalk/molest you again and see if time goes faster.
>> No. 2518270
>>2518269

I volunteer as tribute!
>> No. 2518271
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>>2518269
Not anymore, I hired a special defense team.
>> No. 2518272
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>>2518270

It's that your wish?~

>>2518271

I'm could totally blow up that building from outside.
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>>2518265
>When Smile Smile Smile was first leaked, I thought it was "decent".
I though it sucked. I have been more wrong sometimes, but this was also pretty wrong.
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>>2518272

M-maybe...Baka!
>> No. 2518275
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>>2518274

I have cake~
Also that image is glorious, stolen!saved!
>> No. 2518276
>>2518275

R-really?
>> No. 2518277
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>>2518276

And many more delicious dishes!
>> No. 2518278
>>2518277

F-fine I guess!
>> No. 2518279
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>>2518278

Just wait until we get to my place and you can taste my Special Peachy Pie!
>> No. 2518280
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>>2518279

How about chocolate? Tastes better
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>>2518280
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>>2518281
>> No. 2518283
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>>2518281

What a boss.

>>2518280

That could work too, It's the 14 after all.
>> No. 2518284
>>2518239
She's back to Pinkamena probably because that's the way it is. She didn't get AJ's cutie mark as a result of a Sonic Rainboom, so she never got her hair poofed up. Essentially, time has changed

Also, my belief is that they kind of don't have control over what they do. It's not that their cutie marks now look like their friend's, it's that they actually have their friend's cutie mark, and that means a part of their friend has become a part of them. The problem is that it's like putting a cube in a round hole, and causes a dissonance between what they feel inclined to do (since how could they have gotten those cutie marks if they never did anything associated with it) and what they can do (since the cutie mark doesn't represent their actual talent).
>> No. 2518285
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>>2518279

Ahh...bah...Is it all you can eat?
>> No. 2518286
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>>2518285

I liked you more when you weren't chewing at a snack 24/7~
Back when you looked up to me and showed me respect.
>> No. 2518287
>>2518286

I-I'm sorry Mistress.
>> No. 2518288
>>2518287
>>2518286
>>2518285
>>2518279
>>2518278
>>2518277
>>2518276
>>2518275
>>/rp/
>> No. 2518289
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>>2518287

Absolved~

>>2518288

But...
We are only trying to make the long wait until Saturday fly by!
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>>2518236
I'm sleeping in the rain
Just sleeping in the rain
What a glorious feelin'
I'm happy again
I'm laughing at clouds
So dark up above
The sun's in my heart
And I'm ready for dreams
Let the stormy clouds chase
Everyone from the place
Come on with the rain
I've a smile on my face
I roll down the lane
With a happy refrain
Just sleepin',
Sleepin' in the rain

Dreamin' in the rain
Dee-ah dee-ah dee-ah
Dee-ah dee-ah dee-ah
I'm happy again!
I'm sleepin' and dreamin' in the rain!
>> No. 2518291
>>2518289

Thank you!
>> No. 2518292
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>>2518288
An element of Harmony to this fine anon here! Please cease immediately; you're disrupting the thread.
>> No. 2518293
>>2518292

Got it boss!
>> No. 2518294
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>>2518292

Alright then.
I don't want to watch any leaks, I want to enjoy most of the episode fresh this Saturday! Is it shaping up to be mostly a musical episode?

Last edited at Thu, Feb 14th, 2013 13:50

>> No. 2518295
>>2518294

Hopefully. I'm really worried there won't be any surprises.
>> No. 2518296
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>>2518294
I hope the entire episode gets leaked so I won't have to be late to the party.
>> No. 2518297
Maybe Celestia and Luna started out as normal ponies, and then they were realized to have great potential to be alicornified.

Maybe they're not even biological sisters.
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>>2518295
>>2518296

Aw, I just edited that post due to a small delay.
Anyway I think that's still relevant, you two will be the only ones to understand it now.

You are going to miss the backlash Hoity, that's a shame, I'll save you some screenshots if threads get deleted.
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>>2518298
Indeed, I'm not going to be able to watch it until late at night; going to be out skiing all day.
>> No. 2518300
>>2518297

Then I can ship them without feeling weird.
>> No. 2518301
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>>2518235
I really quite like this song. I'm super excited that Pinkie Pie is also trying to sing in a southern accent like AJ. That's a cute addition.

It is interesting how cutie marks are something one simply doesn't dispute. It certainly does present a dilemma; what happens when somepony genuinely finds themselves unfit for their destiny, as defined by their cutie mark? All of the instances of cutie mark acquisition we've seen are of ponies whose personalities and desires mesh with their special talent, but what happens when the moment is not so serendipitous?

I smell fanfictions...
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>>2518301
well it is the one only thing that makes them special.
>> No. 2518303
>>2518302

I always found their butts more special.
>> No. 2518304
>>2518300

They could've been lovers at one point, but broke up and called themselves sisters to strengthen the belief that they are all powerful and incorruptible to the public. It didn't go well for Luna though.
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>>2518303
thay all look the same to me just in different colours
>> No. 2518306
>>2518305

You gotta be one with the flank to understand.

>>2518304

Hello new head canon! Bollox how do keep being so bro?

Edit: I like you word switcher.

Last edited at Thu, Feb 14th, 2013 14:26

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>>2518297
No sir, I don't like it. To be honest with you, there isn't really any new story potential to come out of "Not being sisters"
>> No. 2518308
>>2518307

I'm gonna ship them either way so I'm good either way as well.
>> No. 2518309
>>2518307

Are you kidding?

It could be that Luna was Celestia's first student and trained her like she did Twilight. There is a fuckton of story potential to come from that.
>> No. 2518310
>>2518309
Yes, I like this. Imagine that Celestia's emphasis on friendship for Twilight was because she sequestered Luna for her training. The resulting lack of social development led to the emergence of the sociopathic Nightmare Moon.
>> No. 2518311
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>> No. 2518312
>>2518311
Are you suggesting that this idea that Hasbro is an evil empire is the product of the imaginations of a rabble of ingorant teenagers who can't possibly put things into perspective, and still think it's hip to "stick it to the man"?

These anti hasbro morons can take their "rage against the machine" bullshit elsewhere. Sorry faux freedom fighters, there are no evil corporate fat cats here. They need to get a life.

to the hasbro conspiracy theorists: fuck off, keyboard warriors.
>> No. 2518313
>>2518312
Well, I'm only trying to show that Hasbro isn't forcing these changes to the showmakers. However, we still don't know whose idea was it to make Twilight an alicorn.
>> No. 2518314
>>2518313
I'm sure Hasbro wanted it, ordered DHX to carry it out, and Meghan and Jayson were 100% prepared and capable to carry out such a drastic change in the storyline, knowing full well that there could be an S4, even though they were writing S3 in a way that closed as many of the characters arcs as they could, but left them open ended enough for future developments.
>> No. 2518315
and I don't see why people whine about Hasbro anyways. The show exists because hasbro wanted to sell toys. I don't hear any complaining about the reason the show exists. And why is that exactly? It's because the mandate to create a show to sell toys has been executed brilliantly, just like the mandate to introduce Cadence and TCE was executed brilliantly. Alicorn Twi will be no different, nor will Equestria Girls. Everything this show does is to sell toys, and it's hypocritical to pick and choose which things people want to complain about, just because it doesn't sit well with the headcanon they have about their phantasmal significant other, or their too emotionally fragile to cope with change.

Yes, I'm anxious about the finale as well. I can't believe they're actually making this drastic change to that adorkable little purple unicorn we've come to know and love, but I feel lucky to be alive right now and apart of this fanbase. We're experiencing exiting times, and a year from now when we're half way through S4, we'll look back at all the panicking and laugh, and promise to never do that again, or atleast until the next big change.
>> No. 2518316
>>2518315

Or we'll still be fighting about Mare Do Well
>> No. 2518317
>>2518316
That's a guarantee.
>> No. 2518318
>>2518315
>I don't see why people whine about Hasbro anyways.

I have to agree. Hasbro contracted with the creators of the show to produce content to promote their toy line. The people on the creative team are professionals who understand who they work for and how to deliver for them. The fact that a group of people outside the target audience latched onto the show is simply a bonus for the creative team as it gives them a more sophisticated audience to interact with.
For Hasbro we are probably something of a risk given the nature of a lot of the fan generated content and it's accessibility on the Internet. Frankly we should be thankful they're not calling us pedophiles like so much of the rest of the world is.
>> No. 2518319
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>>2518318
Look at this Shadowbolt Rainbow Dash made by Hasbro the stitching, her hair this toy is made to look close to the show as they can, Hasbro want us to stay fans and to buy their stuff. Why do they make a Steven Magnet and manticore toys if its just princesses that sell.

This episode, the spin off & season four may just the most inportant time in the fan base. Some will go as MLP is no longer for them, some will stay happy with what will happen and some will join. But please do not harden your hearts to them. All I ask no I beg please do not forget love and tolerance for that, like Twilight in episode one this is our real test.

Do with that as you will.

Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 04:25

>> No. 2518320
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>>2518319
Oh my. I've avoided the toys so far, because I really don't collect such things and would not know what to do with them, but that Shadowdash may be too much for me to resist.

So um... Where would I find one of those Shadowdashies?

Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 04:51

>> No. 2518321
Don't forget the Dərpy brushable! Everyone MUST buy that.
>> No. 2518322
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>>2518321
I want them but being in the uk I can't get them.
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>>2518322
... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
ALRIGHT! which one in Parliament refused it... I've some... questions to ask them...
>> No. 2518324
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>>2518323
Its only for toys'r'us and toy'r'us.com no talk of a uk toys'r'us so its most likely for usa only

um sorry but i must ask are you from the uk to?
>> No. 2518325
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>>2518309
But my headcanon is that King Sombra was the first student. Which is why Celestia is somewhat cautious so that Twlight doesn't go down a similar path.
>>2518315
You know a wise man once told me: Hasbro sucks and MLP sucks....we're all just here for FiM. Whether or not that has any relevance...eh.
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>>2518322
Same here.
>> No. 2518327
>>2518319
the hair i secure you look like that just because is for the exibition, the one they are going to sell will have the normal large hair.
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>>2518312

No, instead we can now blame McCarthy and her deep attraction towards Twilight Sparkle.

Season one was said to have Dash as Faust's self-insert character. Seasons two and three actually have Twilight Sparkle as one.
>> No. 2518329
>>2518328

I don't think it's fair to say she has a "deep attraction" to Twilight, only that she relates the most to her. How much she relates and how that colors to her view is entirely up in the air.

And I don't believe Meghan was the story editor at any point during Season 2. She was still a writer.
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>>2518324
... I'm visiting. So far the UK's pretty nice~
>> No. 2518331
>>2518329
Correct, Renzetti was editor until S3. I don't understand the comparison between Faust and McCarthy. One was a director, the other is a story editor. Two different roles entirely. The correct comparison would be Faust to Thiessen.
>> No. 2518332
>>2518331
I think it's mostly on a control level, S1&2 Rinzetti most likely ran stuff by Lauren, after that it pretty much stops at McCarthy, who might go to Thiessen.
>> No. 2518333
http://family-room.ew.com/2013/02/15/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-finale-clip/
>> No. 2518334
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>>2518333
>seven musical numbers
>> No. 2518335
>So stop your whinnying, neigh-sayers, and saddle up — this one’s gonna be good.

...Alright Beardswirl, have you been hijacking websites again?
>> No. 2518336
>>2518334
My Little Pony: Once More With Feeling or Musicals are Magic.

Why did I not see this coming, the name is a pun/reference to a Beatles movie.
>> No. 2518337
>>2518335
When you look at it from an outside perspective, doesn't it seem silly that people are getting worked up over a purple unicorn getting wings and becoming a princess?
>> No. 2518338
>>2518337
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke
>> No. 2518339
>>2518333
Quills & Sofas, and the Restaurant from Ticket Master appearing again, I'm okay with this.
>> No. 2518340
>>2518338
I'm just making an observation here, nothing else.
>> No. 2518341
>>2518336
and a beatles album/EP.
>> No. 2518342
>>2518339
Oh yeah, oh and lets not forget the guy rainbow "saved" at the GGG, and tap dancing. Its like eternal chaos with cocolate milk rain AND whipped cream.

>>2518341
Slipped my mind,
>> No. 2518343
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BREAKING NEWS, M.A.LARSON TURNS SHIT SYNOPSIS INTO PLATINUM, MORE ON THIS STORY AT 11.

FOR NOW, WE TURN TO LIO WITH OUR NEXT STORY, WHICH CONCERNS A POSSIBLE DƎRPY SIGHTING.
>> No. 2518344
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>>2518343
Thanks Feno!
As you can see from this still image of the clip, we have what appears to be a grey coloured pegasus. And if we just zoom in a bit..
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>>2518344
You can just make out what appears to be a blonde tail!
>> No. 2518346
>>2518333
That actually seems like the opening of the episode. So it looks like we're not going to find out why this happened until later.
>> No. 2518347
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>>2518345
THERE YOU HAVE IT FOLKS, IS THIS THE RETURN OF THE FANDOMS DƎRP OR HAS THE SHOW FOREVER LOST IT'S HERP, TUNE IN TOMORROW FOR THE ANSWER!

>>2518346
It's 1 minute 7 seconds, looks like the opening to me.
>> No. 2518348
>>2518347
No Dərped eyes, no Cutie Mark, not Dərpy.

Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 08:07

>> No. 2518349
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>>2518348
Oh hey, have you seen this yet?

>>/oat/38309947

Apparently Celestia's song is going to give people feels.
>> No. 2518350
>>2518347
Not to mention the fade out at the end of the clip.
>> No. 2518351
>>2518349
Eh, she doesn't get a golden star, It's a Celestia song, It was going to fill my heart with feels no matter what.
>> No. 2518352
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>>2518334
No way this is black magic
>> No. 2518353
You realize, at this rate we'll have heard most of the songs and will have them stuck in our heads before the next 23 hours and 16 minutes is up.
>> No. 2518354
>>2518353
EW is usually the last to give previews.

Now so long as iTunes doesn't mess up like last year when they had a marathon leading up to a new episode...
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>>2518354
I can only hope
>> No. 2518356
>>2518354
>iTunes
>Not messing up and releasing it 12 hours ahead of schedule.

Why do I get the sinking feeling it'll happen.
>> No. 2518357
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Nearly here!

Come on, MMC, surprise me.

>>2518324
I'm hopeful they'll make it to our Toys R Us stores, though I've not seen the NMM set there yet.

>>2518330
Woo! Hope you enjoy the rest of your visit!
>> No. 2518358
Youtube embed play button
  >>2518334
So we're going to have an episode where everything is sung about? Not sure if want...

Also, that song reminds me of Clone High.
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The Clock is Ticking, Mr. President
>> No. 2518360
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Does anypony knows what was that book Luna had at the end of The Crystal Empire?
>> No. 2518361
>>2518360
"Look, Sister, Lo-"
"Luna, I know it's been a thousand years and you're bi-curious, but no, I do not want to try position 47, I'm not into that."
"You would if you tried..."
>> No. 2518362
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>>2518360
An overdue library book.
>> No. 2518363
Youtube embed play button
  >>2518358
>So we're going to have an episode where everything is sung about?
>> No. 2518364
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>>2518333
>mane
>neigh-sayers
>whinnying

That article is trying way too hard to use "brony" terminology.

And another thing:

>"First, though, the unicorn will have to grapple with a curse that switches around all of her friends’ cutie marks"
Uhm...whatever happened to it being a spell that Twilight cast?

Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 09:59

>> No. 2518365
Somehow none of the songs were catchy or interesting so far...

I was hoping for a musical episode since s1, but until now what I heard was disappointing.
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>>2518366
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>>2518366
It's still stupid that people are legitimately mad about that....Are we really gonna lie to ourselves and say that this is a total shock, that we haven't seen this coming since day 1?

Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 10:17

>> No. 2518369
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>>2518368
Uhm...who exactly (legitimately) "saw it coming" since the first episode? It wasn't the least bit obvious until the beginning of S3.
>> No. 2518370
>>2518369
Well, me for one.
> It wasn't the least bit obvious until the beginning of S3.
Let's review the fact, shall we?
>Fantasy show
>Main Character is a Powerful wizard
>Established early on that she has a huge potential
>Horns and Wings in tandem are a sign of power
What does all of this mean? Twilicorn was in the Meta stage for quite some time.
>> No. 2518371
>>2518370
>Established early on that she has a huge potential
>Horns and Wings in tandem are a sign of power
Those seem to contradict each other in regards to your conclusion. Because if Twilight had huge potential as a unicorn, wouldn't that mean that she would able to just...get more powerful as a unicorn? It seems to me like it would naturally lead to "But you are just an ordinary unicorn, how are you this powerful without wings?"

Unless you are suggesting that horns and wings come from great power, instead of the more implied great power comes from horns and wings.
>> No. 2518372
>>2518371
I have to respect that you wrote that all on a mobile.
>Those seem to contradict each other in regards to your conclusion
No, having power in fantasy is rewarded by 1. getting more power or 2. Becoming royalty. I think it all adds up.
>> No. 2518373
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>>2518372
>No, having power in fantasy is rewarded by 1. getting more power or 2. Becoming royalty. I think it all adds up.

Isn't that how it works in real life as well?
>> No. 2518374
>>2518372
>having power in fantasy is rewarded by ... Becoming royalty
I wasn't aware this is a common, established thing. Examples?
>> No. 2518375
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>>2518374

Snow White. Totes became a princess at the end of the movie.
>> No. 2518376
>>2518369
There's the whole thing with her name, at least for me.

Celestia controls the sun and governs the day, Luna controls the moon and governs the night, the word Twilight refers to the time in between. I've always thought that was significant somehow, since she's Celestia's protege and all. If it was some random unicorn's name I wouldn't give it much thought, but after Cutie Mark Chronicles it strengthened the idea that she was heading places. I've heard people say that ideas like this are "baby's first fanfic" ideas because they are so simple, such as the idea of twilight becoming an alicorn itself, but remember, this is a kids show, sometimes the simple ideas are closer to the truth than you think.

Just my two bits, can't wait for tomorrow.
>> No. 2518377
>>2518376
I though that the reason she was called Twilight was because she brought peace between the Day (Celestia) and night (Luna)
>> No. 2518378
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>>2518377

Maybe her parents are big fans of the book series.
>> No. 2518379
>>2518375
I thought she was a princess the entire time?
>> No. 2518380
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>>2518368

Really? With all due respect, I think the liars are the ones who have RETROACTIVELY imposed this path onto the Twilight's destiny, after we learned it was going to happen. Could it have happened, yes? Was it the ABSOULTELY ONLY PATH SHE COULD GO?!? Absolutely not.

If I decide I want to bother, I'm going to tackle this argument NFL Blitz Style tomorrow morning.

Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 10:51

>> No. 2518381
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Twilight is called twilight for her g1 pony was called twilight
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>>2518379

Aight, but how about Belle? She was just a nerd but then shes a pricness
>> No. 2518383
>>2518382
But...she didn't gain any power because of it...right?
>> No. 2518384
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>>2518381
Sorry for the vid my mobile mess up
>> No. 2518385
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>>2518383
well actuallly shes a lot like tiwligth because at first the townspelple are all shit nigga this bitch is readin books n shit but then shes all i like books and the besat comes and makes her a princess
>> No. 2518386
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>>2518385
SO THEY PROBABLY RESPECT HER NOW
>> No. 2518387
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>>2518383
No just money
>> No. 2518388
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>>2518366
>> No. 2518389
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>> No. 2518390
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>>2518382
>>2518383
>>2518385
Nah, she just married the Beast who happened to be a prince.

So, luck, mainly.
>> No. 2518391
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>>2518390

i don't have that image of Braeburn, thanks Fenolio!

Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 13:47

>> No. 2518392
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I can't believe it's tomorrow
>> No. 2518393
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>>2518391
Want this entire folder?
>> No. 2518394
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>>2518393
sure, throw it in a Mediafire link or something.

or whatever is good for you Broski
>> No. 2518395
We got a review out...one that was kinda mixed but mostly positive


http://www.toonzone.net/2013/02/review-little-pony-friendship-magic-magical-mystery-cure-you-say-why-say-dont-know/

It points out that is rushed which I think we kinda could know already.

It also lists my main grievance with alicorn twi (I'm in the middle on it) which is that the symmetry of the group is broken.

This sounds like it's permanent
>> No. 2518396
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>>2518395

Ummmm... Well... I... Um... Let's hope they're wrong about their criticisms?
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>>2518395

oh god, I'm terrified.

Someone catch me, I fee faint.
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>>2518395
Hm.. Not good. Not at all. This would fly fine for a normal episode, but in one where you're making a show changing move they would have needed a near perfect execution. I had my doubts that one episode to do this wouldn't be enough and from this review they seem to have been reaffirmed.

However, I'll reserve full judgment until tomorrow.
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>>2518398
can't believe I forgot my tripcode.
>> No. 2518400
>>2518395
Ahahaha... Ooooh my, I think we're doomed...
>> No. 2518401
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Well, work's over for me. I'm going to the liquor store. Time to store up on supplies.

I may just call it a night for the Pony Part of the net as well. I've got 16 Hours and 41 Minutes to get my mind right. I promised myself that I approach this episode clear of mind and doubt and now I have to work extra hard to do so.

Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 15:50

>> No. 2518402
>>2518401
Good luck, I'll see you on the other side. Hopefully, this won't be too damaging.
>> No. 2518403
>>2518400
>“Magical Mystery Cure” is not bad by any stretch and is a perfectly good episode of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.
>doomed
Yeah, sounds about right for /arch/'s standards.
>> No. 2518404
>>2518403
Dude, this is the finale, and will put to life a highly controversial concept.
This can't be "half bad" if it is to suceed.
>> No. 2518405
>>2518404
I guess I just don't subscribe to the idea that the episode needs to be perfectly good to not be complete and utter garbage that will rip the fandom asunder. That's generally what happened with BNE, it wasn't the greatest episode, and some people were disappointed in it, but overall it was still a good episode.

Besides, we already know Twilight becomes an alicorn princess, so how is it going to be any worse after the fact?
>> No. 2518406
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>>2518405
Again, while this is not reassuring and will bring up doubts. We really cant make judgments until it airs.
>> No. 2518407
>>2518405
Just saying, Insult to injury is all i'm saying.
>> No. 2518408
>>2518405
I don't remember BNE massively changing the status quo of the show!
>> No. 2518409
>>2518408
>massively
I guess we'll really see in about 8 months.

But it's only if the change actually causes the series to get worst, not the same quality or better, that a change should even be the problem.

Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 16:11

>> No. 2518410
>>2518408
Assuming that you somehow time-traveled to watch season 4 and saw how massively this is going to change the show and in the exact way you think it will change it, I'm still just going to wait and see.
>> No. 2518411
I'm scared now. I'm not sure if it's

A) The episode itself
B) The fandom's reaction to the episode
C) The show's future
D) All of the above

If this is permanent, then season 4 will be a nightmare. I was neutral, but now I'm not sure...
>> No. 2518412
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>>2518411
It's just B for me.

And if what's permanent?
>> No. 2518413
>>2518412
People have given various dissertations of various point of views and mental states of why Twilicorn is a bad idea, stop pretending they don't exist.
>> No. 2518414
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>>2518413
Mostly based entirely on illogical assumptions.
>> No. 2518415
>>2518413
I didn't know if he was referring to things like the fandom's reaction or the show's quality. I thought the alicorn Twilight thing was already accepted as permanent.

Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 16:25

>> No. 2518416
>>2518414
Boy, sure is easy to disprove your entire opposition once you reduce them to a neurotical insane bunch, isn't it?
>> No. 2518417
>>2518411
Oh there is a chance could improve after this, but the writing staff is going to have to work their arses off. Otherwise I only see it sinking further into mediocrity.
>> No. 2518418
Princess Twilight, of course.

I'm never looking at spoilers again after this...
>> No. 2518419
ok, so I would like to point out that he gave a meh review to A Canterlot Wedding which was odd as its a love it or hate it episode usually.

So his viewpoint is not necessarily indicative of the fandom's reaction at all.

He also suppossedly only watches the DVDs which means some stuff that is semi important (Seth said continuity was important to this episode) went over his head.

We really wont know until it happens, and you can put me into the scared but hopeful group

Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 16:33

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>>2518416

Isn't that what every single anti-Twilicorn fan has done by this point?

I barely even care about the episode itself anymore. I just want the damn thing over with so we can move on to something else.

Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 16:29

>> No. 2518421
>>2518420
>>2518416
Both sides are doing it. I just want people to understand that both sides have arguments that are more complex than they are attributing to the other side
>> No. 2518422
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>>2518419
Indeed, we can't make judgments until we see the episodes.Nor can we make assumptions about the quality until the next season.

Let it be known that I do not like the concept of Twilight Alicorn, but I'll give it a chance. Regardless if the show goes to shite, something better will pop up eventually.
>> No. 2518423
>>2518325

That's kind of a dick move man. FIM is MLP and people who shit on the rest of the franchise kind of tick me off.
>> No. 2518424
>>2518419
http://comicsonline.com/2013/02/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-coronation-concert-event-recap/
Plus, this review was pretty much completely positive about the episode.
>> No. 2518425
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>> No. 2518426
>>2518423
It kinda was. I actually knew this 'wise man' (me and mzu talk over email a lot) and he was just trying to calm people down in saying that "Equestria Girls wont ruin the show, so why are we caring so much!"
>> No. 2518428
>>2518395

AS TGSB said, best to keep in mind that this guy is also the one that reviewed ACW before it aired, and found it kind of meh, even disappointing in some regards. He didn't trash it, but treated it much the same way as he did this episode, actually slightly worse in some ways. Maybe you are agree with that dislike of ACW, maybe not.
Point is, don't think his opinions are necessarily going to be your own. Maybe you'll actually like more songs than he does. Maybe you'll dislike certain plot points more than him. He did say it felt rushed in the first two acts, which I'll be honest, I'd rather have rushed a bit than completely rushing the ending act. He also said not every song wowed him, but when there's seven, and some are just light mod setters like the opening one released today, I kind of think that's a given. Maybe you'll feel far more emotionally attached to what's happening than he will because his only experience with the show is from the occasional review of the multiple episode DVDs that come out. I mean he doesn't even really get the whole freakout over the alicorn business, and likely any community nods, continuity events, etc sailed right over his head.

So yeah, if this review didn't get you confident, just understand that the only one to really determine how much you like it is yourself.
>> No. 2518429
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>>2518426
>> No. 2518430
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>>2518429
>> No. 2518431
>>2518429
No Reixie! Noooooo!
*Turn into orange ooze.*
>> No. 2518432
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Well the big day is tomorrow! Are you excited because I'm excited!
>> No. 2518433
>>2517907
Do I just click on the link at 6:00?
>> No. 2518434
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http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/02/my-little-pony-season-3-finale/
And now we know why it happened, and what the book is for (kind of).

Oh, and more continuity references sprinkled in.

Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 17:39

>> No. 2518436
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And this is apparently just part one.
>> No. 2518437
>>2518434
Damn, Beardswirl is going to have such a boner.

That is certainly a game-changer.
>> No. 2518438
>>2518436
WHAT.
WHAT.
I AM TAKING TOO MUCH FOR ONE SITTING HERE, STOP. I WANNA GET OFF THIS RIDE.
>> No. 2518439
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>>2518434
Must resist spoilers!
>> No. 2518440
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>>2518428


Well, given that I found CW to have alot of flaws, and while I found 80% of CW2 to be good, I found CW1 to be a horrible episode.


So if Someone who's opinions synche up with mine isn't Overjoyed, I am not optimistic.
>> No. 2518441
>>2518439
Seriously though, you must be skipping in joy that your headcanon has just been partly validated.
>> No. 2518442
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>>2518438
This is going to make the wait starting tomorrow a bit more interesting.
>> No. 2518443
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>>2518436
Hmm..cliffhanger then
>> No. 2518444
>>2518442
I know... I wish it was over with so I could basically just give up till s4.
>> No. 2518445
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>>2518434
Nope. Not looking.
>> No. 2518446
>>2518443
Or possibly just a close connection, similar to how you'd call TTM, SFS, and BNE a three parter.
>> No. 2518447
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>>2518445

Same. maybe I should leave pony till tommorrow.

Bleh, Worst thing is I'm going to be busy tommorow, so after watching I won't be able to discuss the episode for like a day.
>> No. 2518448
>>2518440

But he thinks overall it's good, so I guess you...agree with him? Disagree?
>> No. 2518449
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>>2518436
>mine countenance whereupon

>>2518437
Now I really want to click that link... But I must be strong! I don't want to spoil tomorrow's ep for myself.

>>2518438
>STOP. I WANNA GET OFF THIS RIDE.

NO! There are no breaks on the Twilight Train!
>> No. 2518450
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>>2518448


I have much less expectations for this one, since i am a very, very Fervent anti-alicorn believer.
>> No. 2518451
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>>2518449


Then we must jump off while its moving.
>> No. 2518452
>>2518434

This link. This clip. Very, very interesting. Plenty of continuity (in more than one way), and it's just how I want to see Twilight acting in that circumstance.
Oh so happy.
>> No. 2518453
Youtube embed play button
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I fucking called it! I fucking called it!
>> No. 2518454
>>2518450

Well you said he share your opinions on it, but apparently he liked this episode more than the combined 2-parter ACW. So as before, you shouldn't take his word as "synching-up" with yours.
>> No. 2518455
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>>2518441
>Seriously though, you must be skipping in joy that your headcanon has just been partly validated.

Well, I do have a bottle of champagne ready to be opened tomorrow at 11am.

McCarthy is quickly becoming my favorite person in the world.
>> No. 2518456
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>>2518434

Not clicking that!
But the wait is starting to leave a mark, I apologize for any collateral that I might cause from this post onward...
>> No. 2518457
>>2518436

Whoa, whoa whoa, back the fuck up...
3-parter? They couldn't wait until season 4 for this?
>> No. 2518458
>>2518426

Well I gotta give this 'Wise Man' some props for that at least.
>> No. 2518459
I just started thinking, I wonder how much havoc there would be in the fandom during the SERIES finale, considering this is what it is during a season finale?
>> No. 2518460
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>>2518457
I don't think so... Seems like the writers were never sure if they'd have a fourth season. It explains why S3 tied up so many loose ends. WA could have been a fitting conclusion to Dash's dreams. AFR showed us that the AJ's parents are indeed dead. Trixie and Discord returned and were redeemed. Scootaloo got her own ep and finally has the approval of Dash she's been so desperately seeking since S1. It makes sense that they would end the series with Twilight becoming an alicorn. But they got picked up for a fourth season. So now they can go further with Twilight's story.

At least, that's what I think happened.
>> No. 2518461
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>>2518459

So.
Much.
Despair.
It is... beautiful~
>> No. 2518462
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>>2518460
They can go further with the whole story,the whole plot behind the series by advancing Twilight's story.After all she is the protagonist of the show.
>> No. 2518463
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>>2518462

I fully agree with this post.
>> No. 2518464
>>2518462

Central character.
>> No. 2518465
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>>2518464
Main character.
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>>2518464
>> No. 2518467
>>2518465

Central. All the characters are equally important, but Twilight is the thing that brings them together.
>> No. 2518468
>>2518466

That's not how you spell Rarity silly!
>> No. 2518469
>>2518467
Main, as in even though this show covers a lot of characters, each with their own story, Twilight's is the main one that's covered over the course of the show.

Like I implied here >>2518465
>> No. 2518470
>>2518466
Celestia is better.
Fuck you.
>> No. 2518471
>>2518469

No central, as in she brings them together, but they are all equally main!
>> No. 2518472
>>2518471
The overarching story is about Twilight, therefore she's the main character.
>> No. 2518473
>>2518472

Do you really need to do this man? You're usually the calm guy who doesn't act like a dick. I think she's a central character, and you think she's a main character. Fine. We'll agree to disagree.
>> No. 2518474
>>2518473
Alright then.
>> No. 2518475
>>2518474
Dude are you alright? You seem really angry tonight? Something up man? I know I came off kind of mad, but I'm kind of worried here.
>> No. 2518476
>>2518472
>>2518473
I really dont think he is trying to be rude, but he is kinda ticked off about the fandom's reaction.


Anyways, since this is probably going to be similar to the gala arc then I definately have no reservations to this episode...maybe pacing, but if its explained later then I wont mind
>> No. 2518477
>>2518475
I'm fine. I'm not trying to come off as a jerk, and if you don't want to continue with this conversation about Twilight's character status I'll stop. I just thought it'd be better to give you some sort of reply then none at all.

>>2518476
I'm not even mad right now.

Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 18:53

>> No. 2518478
>>2518476

Yeah, I can understand why. I'm really excited about Twilicorn myself.

Hey if the rest of the mane six do become royalty what do you think their positions would be?
>> No. 2518479
>>2518477

Nah, I'm sorry man I'm just not feeling well today. Caught some kind of bug. Thanks for replying by the way. Maybe... okay Twilight is the main character you're right. I'm just being really silly here. Though my fav pony will always be Rarity.
>> No. 2518480
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>>2518479
Hope you feel better.
>> No. 2518481
>>2518480

Thanks man and sorry again about being a dick. Also what do you think the chances are of any of the mane six getting a two parter down the road?
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>>2518436
Why is this giving me a shakey peace of mind for season 4?
>> No. 2518483
>>2518481
Considering the two parters are more adventurous and how the story comes about, it'd be hard to think of a scenario for any one of the mane six to get a focus two parter.

Best I could probably come up with would be one starring Rainbow Dash, and the premise would be more focused on some big sporting event she'd participate in, like the Equestrian Games, though it would be interrupted by some big event like ACW was with the changeling invasion.

I could definitely see a mane six minus Twilight one, where they have to save her from the villain like a Saving Private Ryan kind of deal.

Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 19:07

>> No. 2518484
>>2518483

I like the saving Twilight idea. If they do it I kind of hope that it'll be a three parter.
>> No. 2518485
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>>2518483

Does that mean the entire rest that most of the Mane cast dies to save Twilight in the end? That could be interesting to see.
>> No. 2518486
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>>2518483
>I could definitely see a mane six minus Twilight one, where they have to save her from the villain like a Saving Private Ryan kind of deal.

I keep throwing money at the computer screen but nothing is happening!
>> No. 2518487
>>2518485

Umm...I'd rather they not...
>> No. 2518488
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>>2518485
I honestly haven't watched Saving Private Ryan. I only know about the movie's premise of a bunch of soldiers trying to rescue a captured one.
>> No. 2518489
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>>2518488
Private Ryan was never captured. He was just out fighting in the front and they were sent to find him and bring him back before he got himself killed.

It's really a good movie. You should watch it.
>> No. 2518490
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>>2518485
Ah Mami, I see you haven't lost your head in all this drama.
>> No. 2518491
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>>2518486

Be one with the computer man! Then it will accept your money.
>> No. 2518492
>>2518489


I need to myself. Is it on blu ray?
>> No. 2518493
Youtube embed play button
  >>2518491

No no, then you just Biomerge-digivolve.

Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 19:42

>> No. 2518494
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>>2518487

Oh... Ok.

>>2518490

Of course not!
... You weren't expecting me to go on a killing spree or something right?
>> No. 2518495
Youtube embed play button
  >>2518489
It is one of the better war movies out there.I kinda like Black Hawk down better,it avoids treating war as fought by a collection of hard cases with a few fresh faces.

I mean Saving Private Ryan is great and all but it tries hard to portray war as gritty and serious,instead of the real thing which has a tendency to veer towards absurdity and boredom.
>> No. 2518496
Youtube embed play button
  Well Bronies, in a few hours, the finale will begin.
Many tears will be shed, many songs will be sung, many smiles will be had, and in the end, we will be left for the long hiatus between seasons.
So, my comrades, I only have one question...
...ARE YOU READY?
>> No. 2518497
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>>2518496

My body is ready~
As are all ribbons and muskets, just in case!
>> No. 2518498
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>>2518493

Then you can make them make you whatever you want or they have to answer to Omnimon!

>>2518494

I expect this one day.
>> No. 2518499
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>>2518496
Beardswirl the Starded onboard UNSC Purple Princess reporting in.

Currently we are coming into geosynchronous orbit over /arch/. Jimmies are secured. Body is at maximum readiness. Ready to deploy ground forces at a moments notice.
>> No. 2518500
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>>2518496
It's going to be over 12 hours, but aside from that, yes, I am ready.

Bring it on!
>> No. 2518501
Youtube embed play button
  >>2518496

FOR FRIENDSHIP!

>>2518497

I like the implications behind this~
>> No. 2518502
So, you guys watching the episode through Stream or later at Youtube?
>> No. 2518503
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>>2518502
I haven't had to miss one episode yet this season, and I made sure I wouldn't for this one.
>> No. 2518504
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>>2518502
On a stream
>> No. 2518505
>>2518502
Staying up all night to watch the stream.
>> No. 2518506
>>2518502

Live on the hub~~
>> No. 2518507
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>>2518498

Expect what?

>>2518501

Remember, always keep your weapon ready, your only safety net should be your trigger finger.
>> No. 2518508
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>>2518496
Feh.
I am ready.
>> No. 2518509
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>>2518502
Gonna watch live-stream... Pop open a bottle of bubbly and discuss the episode with fellow gentlemen of /arch/. Then if all goes according to plan, watch it again on Sunday in glorious HD from iTunes on Apple TV (that is if iTunes doesn't fuck up this episode too... GOD HELP THEM IF THEY DO!)
>> No. 2518510
>>2518507

Murder spree.

I always have my trigger finger cocked and ready!
>> No. 2518511
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>>2518510

Well...
Nothing is going to ruin Twi's special day, not on my watch.
>> No. 2518512
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>>2518502

Seeing as I'm currently up in the mountains in Vermont, and will be skiing all day tomorrow...I'm gonna have to watch it on YouTube on my iPad later in the day/at night. I won't get to /popcorn at the initial shitstorms, sadly.
>> No. 2518513
>>2518511

I will protect her with my life ma'am!

>>2518512

Sounds fun dood! You enjoy yourself!
>> No. 2518514
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>>2518512
When you getting back Nostalgia? I'd hate to go on hiatus without hearing the opinion of my arch-nemesis.
>> No. 2518515
>>2518502
I'll have to watch it later in the evening. Funeral to go to.
>> No. 2518516
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>>2518514
It's not that I'm *gone* or anything, I have my iPad here with me (which is what I'm typing on right now), it's just that I'll be out skiing all day so I won't be able to watch the episode as it airs.
>> No. 2518517
>>2518514
So when exactly are you going on this hiatus?
>> No. 2518518
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>>2518516
Ok, so everything will work out fine then... Enjoy your day of skiing.

Super jelly by the way.
>> No. 2518519
>>2518515

I'm sorry man
>> No. 2518520
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>>2518518
Weekend of skiiing* ! I'm here all weekend.

And you'd best be jelly, son. The little timeshare-condo that I'm staying in is literally right on the side of the slopes. You can walk around the back, get on your board/skis and slide right down onto the slope, down to the lifts. And then when you come back down, you can ski right down to the condo again.

It's pretty much a dream house for skiers.
>> No. 2518521
>>2518509
Well we only have 11 hours to go before iTunes can accidentally spoil it for errybody.
>> No. 2518522
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Less than 12 Hours till Impact.
Less than 12 Hours till Climax
Less than 12 Hours till Sheer Exctasy
Less than 12 Hours till Total Pain.

Less than 12 Hours till we all know.

We've reach the point of no return ladies and gentlemen. If you aren't ready, then that's just too bad.

As for me... If it comes down to a fight.. all I got is two words to say.

Let's....

Morphing


Last edited at Fri, Feb 15th, 2013 21:13

>> No. 2518523
>>2518519
Thanks. But, well it was a family member I didn't know very well, its more to see my grandmother I haven't seen in ages.
>> No. 2518524
>>2518523

Oh well make sure to have fun seeing her tomorrow...Put the FUN in funeral as it were...I'll shut up now, but seriously sorry about your loss.
>> No. 2518525
>>2518523
>>2518515
Just saw this...sorry about that
>> No. 2518526
>>2518496
wait, a few hours? i thought it was tomorrow!
>> No. 2518527
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>>2518522
Right with you on that.
>> No. 2518528
>>2518524
>>2518525
Dont worry about it guys!
>> No. 2518529
>>2518528

Alright if you're sure, just remember we're always here for you!

Ponychan means family. Family means nopony gets left behind.
>> No. 2518530
Question: Do we know if the plot is that Twilight changes their cutie marks in the present day, and that they somehow were forced to change their whole lives because of it, or that she changed which cutie marks they got in their childhood, creating an alternate history in which they were mislead by their cutie marks?

Recently, I've been sleeping in and watching the episodes on Youtube, but I think I'd like to see the reaction to this one ASAP. I'd prefer not to sleep through the potential pony apocalypse.

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>> No. 2518531
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>>2518530
Pony apocolypse? My friend, you are about to witness the dawning of a new age. An age of reason, of peace, of freedom from fear and darkness. It will be the age of the Purple Princess. Rejoice! For the Kingdom of Sparkle is at hand!

For the one true princess, long may she reign!
>> No. 2518532
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>>2518530


I know that feeling. I'm really annoyed that I'm going to be busy most of the day, so I'll basically just see the episode, then end up missing out on all the reactions. >.<


This is worse than when I was two week banned during CW so I didn't get to participate in the debates during that episode.
>> No. 2518533
>>2518531

You know what? I'm excited for this. We'll finally have something huge happen that affects the show. Something that'll make it fresh again. Tomorrow is gonna be awesome!
>> No. 2518534
>>2518529
1000% sure~ :P

>>2518530
I think it might be like alt history?

I dunno...
>> No. 2518535
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>>2518532
>This is worse than when I was two week banned during CW so I didn't get to participate in the debates during that episode.

Dude, I got banned for 2 weeks around that time too... I just wrote a really serious and heart-felt apology to the mod who banned me, basically begging forgiveness and pleading not to make me miss the season finale. It was lifted the day of ACW.
>> No. 2518536
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>>2518531

Beardswirl, your blandness is showing.
>> No. 2518537
NIGHT EVERYPONY. I SHALL SEE THEE ALL TOMORROW. TAKE CARE.
>> No. 2518538
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>>2518531


WE WILL NEVER BOW TO THE DEFILER.
>> No. 2518539
>>2518531

Just as long as she doesn't become John Cena, we're cool. If she does, then Enter might have to do God's work.
>> No. 2518540
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>>2518536
Yeah well... uh.. Your blandness is showing!
>> No. 2518541
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Oh god, my nipples are erect! Bring on the episode!
>> No. 2518542
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>Oh god, my nipples are erect! Bring on the episode!

Is it Saturday at 10:30 yet????
>> No. 2518543
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>>2518542

No but I'm gonna celebrate before it is~~~!!!
>> No. 2518544
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>>2518543
Who's awesome? You're awesome Bollox!
>> No. 2518545
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>>2518541

Damnit, I warned you to be careful with those things!
>> No. 2518546
I believe in M.A. Larson.
>> No. 2518547
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>>2518544

Daw, why you gotta say things like that?
>> No. 2518548
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>>2518546
>> No. 2518549
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>>2518546

I don't. Not... anymore.
>> No. 2518550
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>>2518549
>> No. 2518551
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>>2518550
Never compromise. Even in the face of armageddon.
>> No. 2518552
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>>2518551
>> No. 2518553
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I'm sorry Unlikeable....
>> No. 2518554
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>> No. 2518555
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>>2518554
Do you really think that's gonna protect you? I wish I had your optimism. Your innocience. But the truth is there's a shit storm coming. And not just any shit storm. The perfect shit storm. And the only thing you can do is either run and hide... Or man-up, stand, and fight. I've made my decision. You need to make yours.

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 00:48

>> No. 2518556
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>>2518554

I destroy your barrier
>> No. 2518557
okay, so in the previews twilight seem very excited of being a princess, and the whole cutie mark thing is goin to be solved in a song at the beginning.
what will be the conflict of the episode?
>> No. 2518558
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>>2518557
See: >>2518023 & >>2518259
>> No. 2518559
>>2518558
I'm okay with this
>> No. 2518560
>>2518558
Except the most recent leak on Wired showed either

A) The princesses are parasprites
B) Starswirl was a parasprite
C) This is what happens when you buck a stranger in the northern mountains
D) Twilight really needs to learn to NOT read out loud
E) All of the above

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 01:34

>> No. 2518561
Youtube embed play button
  >>2518429
What anime is this from?
>>2518539
Ohhh, so THAT'S why the fandom is freaking out. Yeah, to fucking hell with Cena.
Also, major obligatory preparatory clip to be played right before the start of the season finale.
>> No. 2518562
Youtube embed play button
  >>2518561

Evangelion
>> No. 2518563
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>>2518560
D, though at least it wasn't the necronomicon, or some diary with a magic spell in it.

Never read anything you can't understand out loud, especially while knowingly channeling magic!!!
>> No. 2518564
>>2518563

Hey guys I found this tape recorder next to this creepy book and I played it. Nothing bad will happen right?
>> No. 2518565
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>>2518564

As long as you don't say 'Biggie Smalls' in a mirror 3 times..
>> No. 2518566
>>2518563
It was Starswirl's spell book, if there's a pony equivalent of the Necronomicon of Abdul Alhazred I would think it was that.

Also my choice is obviously A,B,D.
>> No. 2518567
>>2518560
I haven't seen that leak, and I don't want to see it.
>> No. 2518568
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>>2517907
30 minutes! Is your body ready?
>> No. 2518569
>>2518568
30 minute to what?
>> No. 2518570
>>2518568
it begins!
>> No. 2518571
>>2518569
marathon at Bronystate!
>> No. 2518572
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Since we learned about Twicorn I have had stomachache (actual physical pain) for suspension. I'm sure is my ready, but what ever finale gives us, I can't wait it to be over so I can relax.
>> No. 2518573
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Gentlemen, today is the day. The day of days.

May the force be with us all.
>> No. 2518574
MY BODY IS NOT READY
>> No. 2518575
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>>2518573

My body is as ready as it's ever going to be.
>> No. 2518576
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I'm ready for the carnage everypony, so be forewarned:

I BROUGHT EXTRA PILLOWS!
>> No. 2518577
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I'm ready.
Let's get this over with.
>> No. 2518578
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It all comes down to this, my body is ready.
>> No. 2518579
I've got the champagne.

All hail our new Princess!
>> No. 2518580
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It is almost time!

Long live the princess! Long live the princess!
>> No. 2518581
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F*ck it. We've got less than 2 and a half hours before this begins, so let's do this. I just hope I don't view my 2nd Favorite Pony in the same eye I view Hal Jordan or Barry Allen after all of this is over.
>> No. 2518582
Coincidentally, I've been watching Princess Tutu around this same time, with only a few episodes left. Let's see if I can finish it before this episode airs.
>> No. 2518583
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We're going in. We're going in full throttle!
>> No. 2518584
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CLOCK

IS

TICKING!
>> No. 2518585
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http://www.mediafire.com/?jz2f0avc64uwf6c
Only season one in here though, i really need to update my folders.
Somebody order a braeburn?

>mine countenance whereupon one hour remaining.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ6CcEOmlYU
>> No. 2518586
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Thar be a Twilicorn off the port bow! Harpoons at the ready, lads!
>> No. 2518587
I'm gonna have a heart attack if this episode doesn't air soon. I feel like the mane 6 at the end of TCE while waiting for Twilight to come back from Celestia's judgement.
>> No. 2518588
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So guys. 20 bucks say they never once say the word "Alicorn" in the episode. Any takers?
>> No. 2518589
>>2518588
I agree. Just because they called something in the show "alicorn" doesn't mean they'll relate it to the princesses. We all know it's used by the staff, although it's the wrong term anyway, but I really hope it stays out of the episode.
>> No. 2518590
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>>2518588
I don't think they'll say alicorn at all. Princess on the other hand...
>> No. 2518591
Half an hour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw
>> No. 2518592
30 minutes!
>> No. 2518593
Youtube embed play button
  Her time will come.
>> No. 2518594
>>2518589
Is it the wrong term? I was under the impression that its derived from alicornio which is a spanish word for a wing footed unicorn and has been around for a while.

Anyways, I think I just got really hyped...right on time

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 08:04

>> No. 2518595
30 mins.

Dis gun be good =).
>> No. 2518596
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>>2518588
20 Bucks against. They'll say it.
>> No. 2518597
>>2518594
Hey bro, I can't do the stream. Season Premieres/Finales are special occasions. Must watch on Flatscreen!
>> No. 2518598
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20 minutes. About time we got this show on the road.
>> No. 2518599
>>2518594
Alicorn originally referred to a unicorn's horn, or the material it's made of. The usage for a winged unicorn is more recent and unofficial.
>> No. 2518600
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>>2518599
Riiight.
>> No. 2518601
>>2518596

I agree. Alicorn is canon, they will probably say it.
>> No. 2518602
>>2518599

Not this again
>> No. 2518603
>>2518599
Oh I know that.

But alicorn while newer is still grounded in mythology as a winged unicorn as well. Not greek, but spanish mythology
>> No. 2518604
>>2518600
Yes, the amulet that amps up a unicorn's magic power would naturally be named for a unicorn's horn.

>>2518602
I know, right?
>> No. 2518605
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>>2518601
Or Princess. but if they say Pegacorn I'm gone.
>> No. 2518606
>>2518599
Originally, the newer meaning came out when Alicorn in that sense as already as archaic as using thee as the familiar second person singular or using ge- or y- as a prefix for intensifying verbs.

As far as the modern history goes, it can be traced back to Piers Anthony and Xanth.
>> No. 2518607
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Let's see how this goes. I'm still going for some sort of twist ending, like "oh it was Discord all along telling a silly little story to the CMC."
>> No. 2518608
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Let's see how this goes. I'm still going for some sort of twist ending, like "oh it was Discord all along telling a silly little story to the CMC."
>> No. 2518609
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T-Minus 10 Minutes.

Mod 5 standing by.
>> No. 2518610
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>>2518608
Now that would be a show worth watching.
>> No. 2518611
5 minutes.
>> No. 2518612
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2518612
It's almost time... I can barely contain my excitement!
>> No. 2518613
File 136102848390.jpg - (1.36MB , 3508x2480 , Twilight Sparkle Mirror Mirror.jpg )
2518613
Whether I get rustled or not by episode's end, let's just get this over with. I await the hiatus.
>> No. 2518614
*sigh* The past couple weeks have been an emotional trainwreck for me, from furious to depressed to furious to slightly optimistic to more depressed than last to slightly optimistic to the slight pessimism I feel now.


We'll see how this ends.
>> No. 2518615
Four minutes to go...
>> No. 2518616
File 136102847350.gif - (23.09KB , 256x192 , godot-thoughtful(b).gif )
2518616
Time to get down to business.
>> No. 2518617
File 136102851454.jpg - (90.63KB , 619x775 , Pony.jpg )
2518617
It is time.
>> No. 2518618
File 136102853402.png - (115.29KB , 315x351 , n op 3.png )
2518618
Alright then, everybody...

IT'S PONY TIME!
>> No. 2518619
File 136102865343.png - (708.83KB , 1024x768 , hmmm_jpg.png )
2518619
Let's see the world crumble, mwahaha

I, mean, uh...let's take this as best as we could.
>> No. 2518620
Youtube embed play button
 
>> No. 2518621
File 136102868920.png - (81.73KB , 600x620 , 82542 - artist-sukaponta.png )
2518621
Fuck, it's about to happen!
>> No. 2518622
File 136102858974.jpg - (37.73KB , 500x462 , it-begins-pony.jpg )
2518622
>> No. 2518623
Youtube embed play button
  TEAM DEATHMATCH!
FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC
>> No. 2518624
Let's do this
>> No. 2518625
File 136102875361.png - (238.62KB , 500x650 , Greylight Denies Everything.png )
2518625
Ahaha, that opening was basically just screaming STOP PANICKING DAMNIT at us. Everything is going to be fine indeed.
>> No. 2518626
File 136102875740.png - (232.73KB , 810x1024 , xh8Z0.png )
2518626
Well, good start :D
>> No. 2518628
I haven't been watching the previews, so that opening was a bit of a surprise.

Anyone got a nice, smooth stream? I'm having trouble finding something decent
>> No. 2518629
1/7 songs.
>> No. 2518630
I missed the intro, my stream froze.

Dammit, this is not a good sign for me.
>> No. 2518631
File 136102887228.gif - (22.13KB , 256x192 , godot-handondesk.gif )
2518631
Dammit, the Livestream streams can't handle all this pony.
>> No. 2518632
File 136102878175.png - (66.98KB , 657x282 , PartyTime.png )
2518632
>> No. 2518633
Nice musical number...

Well, here we go...
>> No. 2518634
File 136102890185.gif - (30.29KB , 200x200 , Dizzy Lesbians.gif )
2518634
This episode is off to a glorious start.
>> No. 2518635
>>2518630
http://www.bronystate.net/theater/spike/
>> No. 2518636
Haha that dance
>> No. 2518637
>>2518628
Hax mega?
>> No. 2518638
>>2518625

BUT I MISSED THE OPENING FUCKFUCKFUCK I AM GOING TO HATE THIS EPISODE
>> No. 2518639
File 136102893035.png - (167.96KB , 731x900 , 135744013584.png )
2518639
>>2518621
I was prepared for this
>> No. 2518640
>>2518638
http://family-room.ew.com/2013/02/15/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-finale-clip/
>> No. 2518641
Nice song but kinda out of nowhere wasn't it?
>> No. 2518642
>>2518631

>Is glad to have the hub network
>> No. 2518643
Dammit dammit dammit I have no idea what's going on but apparently it was important I don't know.
>> No. 2518644
File 136102898068.jpg - (72.76KB , 265x461 , double_k___pg__63_preview_by_captainosaka-d31lh52.jpg )
2518644
>>2518625
I disagree. Pretty sure it was for ironic purposes.
>> No. 2518645
>>2518641
It's a musical.It's got to establish that right away.
>> No. 2518646
2nd song
>> No. 2518647
File 136102899417.png - (88.84KB , 219x279 , 410621837.png )
2518647
>>2518639
I am too, but I'm excited. The cussing wan't out of fear or something similar.

OMG Vinyl Scratch!
>> No. 2518648
File 136102899656.png - (26.97KB , 480x360 , Applejack_tired,_no_background_2.png )
2518648
Applejack BETTER sing!
>> No. 2518649
File 136102900412.png - (48.27KB , 368x573 , 167182__UNOPT__safe_twilight-sparkle_milkshake_artist-heavyecho.png )
2518649
What is happening here!?!?!?!?
>> No. 2518650
File 136102907313.png - (104.00KB , 1032x774 , Pinkamina Happyish.png )
2518650
Nice continuity, Pinkie never got her hair fluffed.
>> No. 2518651
File 136102912259.gif - (143.38KB , 900x900 , Applejack LOL.gif )
2518651
>Everything I've seen so far has already been seen through spoiler clips
>> No. 2518652
THIS SONG DSKAFHKBGKJASDGFSA
ALL MY MANLY TEARS

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 08:40

>> No. 2518653
File 136102931398.png - (370.63KB , 1280x720 , Twilight Sparkle I Came.png )
2518653
>This song
>> No. 2518654
Third song

Too bad it didn't go on a bit longer.

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 08:41

>> No. 2518655
File 136102937027.png - (40.14KB , 190x278 , OhGodWhy.png )
2518655
>Add comes up in stream
>15 seconds
>Exactly as long as Rarity's part of the song
>> No. 2518656
That third song.

Oh my holy God!
>> No. 2518657
That was fast. Not saying it's bad, because I this way there's more time to actually solve this problem.
>> No. 2518658
Dee had connection troubles and missed it, what was the spell Twi bucked up supposed to do?
>> No. 2518659
oooo, pretty song.
>> No. 2518660
File 136102942228.png - (581.52KB , 525x700 , It's okay, you can cry now.png )
2518660
"If you don't find a way, no one will."
>> No. 2518661
Oh dear a musical, I CAN'T!

Already loving this.
>> No. 2518662
>>2518658
We don't know exactly yet.
>> No. 2518663
So how's Twi gonna write a spell for this?
>> No. 2518664
>>2518663
Give it 5 minutes.
>> No. 2518665
>Rainbow Dash's cutie mark on rarity
>Episode about Twilight fixing an animation error

Mistakes Animators Make
>> No. 2518666
File 136102949400.jpg - (171.60KB , 680x680 , YESYESYESYES (2).jpg )
2518666
>>2518661
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH I'M LOVING IT!
>> No. 2518667
Hmm, I really wasn't expecting Twilight to care as much about her friends as her failing the spell, good to see she does.

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 08:44

>> No. 2518668
File 136102974960.gif - (31.30KB , 256x192 , godot-sniff.gif )
2518668
I was actually impressed with that song.
>> No. 2518669
That last song before commercial was pretty good. Though, of course, they're all so brief. They're definately being used as a mechanism to move the plot along really quickly

I'm not sure I buy into this "true self" thing. This could probably solved with "Hey, X, go try Y's job". Well, partially. There's still an entire fulfilling life they missed out on up to this point, I suppose >_>

Also, since when was spellcasting ever been based on incantations, let alone rhyming ones?

EDIT: Spoke too soon

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 08:45

>> No. 2518670
File 136102953718.png - (121.10KB , 788x700 , 9021__twilight-sparkle_vector_artist-gratlofatic.png )
2518670
Easy solution: Keep casting the spell repeatedly. If any of the Elements go to the right place, take it off of the shelf, so that it is out of range of the Magic tiara.
>> No. 2518671
>Dat cranky Bon-Bon

Must have vector!
>> No. 2518672
4th song
>> No. 2518673
Cute Fluttershy moment.
>> No. 2518675
File 136102970567.gif - (18.90KB , 256x192 , godot-heh mug.gif )
2518675
Normally I wouldn't care for musicals, but this one is nice.
>> No. 2518676
Youtube embed play button
  >Well, at least there's fan content to kill time until the ep.
>> No. 2518677
Here it comes
>> No. 2518678
They killed Twilight! Those bastards!
>> No. 2518679
It begins!
>> No. 2518680
THE END :DDDDD
>> No. 2518681
Friendship is Incineration
>> No. 2518682
File 136102996460.png - (146.39KB , 448x538 , 7zSqM.png )
2518682
Twilight's dead. Show's over.

All the naysayers were right.
>> No. 2518683
Yep. this is going to be the moment. After the break.
>> No. 2518684
show's over guys, she's dead.
>> No. 2518685
Twilight died?!?!?!?!

NOOOOOOOOOOOO...
>> No. 2518686
>Twilight: "By your powers combined, I am Princess Plan-!" Smouldering pile of ashes.
>> No. 2518687
File 136102998769.png - (61.02KB , 395x430 , Is that Porn of my SISTER.png )
2518687
TWILY?!
>> No. 2518688
File 136102998868.png - (184.12KB , 640x428 , Keep Calm and Flutter On.png )
2518688
YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!


She has to do something besides fix her problem, her disappearing means she must learn something else before the episode ends and we might get some understanding! My worry about her not deserving the alicornification might just be resolved!
>> No. 2518689
Still three more songs, including the Celestia one.
>> No. 2518690
File 136102989409.gif - (18.56KB , 256x192 , godot-heh.gif )
2518690
>>2518677
I think you jumped the gun.
>> No. 2518691
File 136102989753.png - (39.02KB , 187x295 , OnlyNowDoIKnowTrueTerror.png )
2518691
So... it was all an accident or... what? The EoH are just touchy motherfuckers that like giving people wings for no fucking reason?
>> No. 2518692
>Twilight banished from the show after her destiny was fulfilled

Alright guys move along.
>> No. 2518693
annnd the scorch mark is in the shape of Twilight's cutie mark. Nice touch.
>> No. 2518694
Well, everything turns all righ.... THEY KILLED TWILIGHT!
>> No. 2518695
Oh boy, hereeeee it comes...
>> No. 2518696
Wat
>> No. 2518697
>>2518666
It's awesome! And now she's gone!

Oh dear the anticipation!
>> No. 2518698
This must be some kind of metaphor for us
>> No. 2518699
~Now the world don't move
to the beat of just one dru-um
~
>> No. 2518700
They killed Twilight. That was a surprise. Very edgy.
>> No. 2518701
Hey, another commercial.
>> No. 2518702
File 136102996454.jpg - (65.34KB , 600x562 , 130565315977.jpg )
2518702
>>2518687
>> No. 2518703
File 136103007031.jpg - (8.34KB , 161x238 , 15066781-161-238.jpg )
2518703
That commercial!
>> No. 2518704
File 136102997430.png - (209.86KB , 560x514 , checkoutmysweetmoves.png )
2518704
>>2518675
If Godot approves, I am satisfied.
>> No. 2518705
celestia song
>> No. 2518706
Here's your moment 441!
>> No. 2518707
441 is going to have a heart atttack
>> No. 2518708
Celestia knows all!
>> No. 2518709
Fuck yes alicorn!
>> No. 2518710
THEY SAID IT
>> No. 2518711
ALICORN HAHA
>> No. 2518712
FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>> No. 2518713
HAHAHAHAHA DULSET
>> No. 2518714
alicorn is now canon
>> No. 2518715
File 136103025602.png - (182.04KB , 500x377 , RCV.png )
2518715
ALICORN IS 100% CANON! SUCK IT BITCHES
>> No. 2518716
File 136103018910.png - (173.30KB , 656x625 , xj_9_jenny_looking_cute_by_icewolf762.png )
2518716
It happened!
>> No. 2518717
No! No!


No bowing!


It was going so well, but then her friends bowed to her! No! No! No!
>> No. 2518718
>Celestia bowing to Twilight

That hurt
>> No. 2518719
>Lou Gehrig
>> No. 2518720
File 136103032494.png - (146.39KB , 448x538 , 7zSqM.png )
2518720
This just took a sharp left turn.

Wings are already bothering me, she better keep them folded 100% of the time.
>> No. 2518721
File 136103043711.jpg - (53.56KB , 590x459 , twilight has no answer.jpg )
2518721
No words..... Should have sent a poet!
>> No. 2518722
File 136103044789.png - (427.25KB , 776x483 , lol!.png )
2518722
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW
>> No. 2518723
So was that some meta commentary at the end
>> No. 2518724
File 136103047273.png - (179.27KB , 809x987 , Worries.png )
2518724
Okay okay guys. Someone answer this for me. We get the 1x66 BEFORE the next season right?

I can't wait until a new season with..... that.
>> No. 2518725
File 136103058143.png - (611.04KB , 637x756 , 132106408081.png )
2518725
DƎRPY EXISTS BITCHES.

I AM LEAKING SO MUCH LIQUID PRIDE RIGHT NOW.
>> No. 2518726
how much of the episode is left?
>> No. 2518727
Everything is going to be fine.

Yes. Yes it is.
>> No. 2518728
File 136103049211.jpg - (25.77KB , 300x441 , reignhardsmall.jpg )
2518728
Basically it happened just like I thought it would. The episode was great, but holy shit fears not put to rest. The wait for S4 will be grueling.
>> No. 2518729
File 136103050221.jpg - (9.10KB , 262x150 , 603207_3.jpg )
2518729
Twi flew? That was pretty fast. No RD teaching Twi ep I guess. Also Celestia song was my favorite, with Rarity's part in "A true true friend" just behind it.
>> No. 2518730
File 136103060732.jpg - (398.84KB , 662x936 , Eyes in the Horizon QB.jpg )
2518730
"Eternal glory ride fast to me
Eternal glory spread your wide wings
fly and forever lead my holy steel"
>> No. 2518731
Quick, someone insert a Gravity Falls "Everything is Different now" Image Macro!

This was better than I thought it'd be.
>> No. 2518732
Youtube embed play button
  >MINE COUNTENANCE WHEREUPON
>> No. 2518733
File 136103051712.jpg - (39.62KB , 622x477 , IcK0T.jpg )
2518733
Hold on to your butts...
>> No. 2518734
Now to wait 8 months to see how it ties into the season 4 premiere.
>> No. 2518735
The episode was going good until the bowing. The bowing absolutely killed everything about the episode. I want to rate it good but I cannot get over that. The wings weren't even that big a deal (assuming she doesn't wear that outfit every episode), but the bowing is, somehow.


I loved the destiny swapping, they made it work in the time they had.

But the bowing!


I am conflicted. I need time to decide what to rate this.
>> No. 2518736
File 136103064707.png - (545.67KB , 989x886 , 3_ Dulset Tarn 2.png )
2518736
Wwwwwelp, that episode, from beginning to end, felt exactly as cheap, forced, and meaningless as I expected. And I'm out 40 bucks.

4.5/10
>> No. 2518737
>>2518722
In a good way or a bad way?

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 09:03

>> No. 2518738
File 136103055394.png - (165.15KB , 438x461 , 1238106968103.png )
2518738
Okay... season ended. How many months to S4?
>> No. 2518739
File 136103055448.png - (394.34KB , 900x701 , 3b1be8bd6f24d85909cee071b12e1d44.png )
2518739
Just gonna say, even though there were slightly more inconsistencies than usual (AJ's family not doing something when Pinkie's fucking up the farm, weather team not taking over for Rarity who's cutie mark was for racing anyway)...

I liked it.

That, and Celestia song. YES!
>> No. 2518740
So, what do we do now?
>> No. 2518741
>>2518725
Did she appear? Going to have to wait until it's uploaded.
>> No. 2518742
>>2518725

Fuck! Where, are you sure? Damn it, now I need to wait for youtube.
>> No. 2518743
File 136103057881.jpg - (7.28KB , 160x160 , 130732408299.jpg )
2518743
THIS JUST IN YOU GUYS.

The right way to make a musical is to make sure there's as few lines of actual dialogue as PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE in your show!

I'm serious even 4 sentences is TOO MUCH.
>> No. 2518744
>>2518741
Yeah.
>> No. 2518745
File 136103070615.png - (178.32KB , 641x1245 , 131565297927.png )
2518745
Well, that...

That...

That... was certainly an episode of My Little Pony that was shown on The Hub.
>> No. 2518746
>>2518735
The bowing seems like just a formality thing.
>> No. 2518747
File 136103062391.png - (175.10KB , 261x396 , and_then_they_all_fucked[2].png )
2518747
>>2518717
And them they paraded alongside her! Your argument is invalid.


Ok. I'mma gonna do a review of this on my next post. Wait a sec before this all sinks in.
>> No. 2518748
>>2518735
Agreed...that bowing part...
>> No. 2518749
File 136103072823.png - (536.97KB , 880x978 , 157453 - artist DashiesPet glowing_eyes twilight_sparkle.png )
2518749
As probably everypony is going to say, it felt rushed. But on the other hand, it was a great episode. Because it was rushed, I can't give it 10/10, but it's probably 9 or 8 out 10 episode. I need to calm a moment and watch it again from YouTube before I can give proper rating.


But I predict one thing now: This episode will split ratings. Either ponies give it 8-10 ratings or 0-2 ratings.
>> No. 2518750
>>2518738
Nevermind, Someone said 8 months.
>> No. 2518751
File 136103063134.png - (513.63KB , 700x993 , Greylight Arise.png )
2518751
That was the greatest thing. I can't believe this fanbase, that we tore ourselves to pieces over this. Something has gone seriously, seriously wrong in this fanbase, and I'm going to have to be very careful what fans I even hang around with now, that I don't dragged into the muck too.

Twilight's friends love her for it. Why can't we?

Damn fine episode, and I hope everyone that hates how this season went is not here when season 4, so that we may finally be rid of your incessant blubbering.

Stay pony, my friends.
>> No. 2518752
File 136103063976.gif - (23.16KB , 256x192 , godot-handondesk mug.gif )
2518752
>>2518728
I agree. The episode was great, but the outcome is what everyone's been focused on.
>> No. 2518753
File 136103075073.jpg - (107.29KB , 1280x1280 , 135826842937.jpg )
2518753
I honestly have no words...
>> No. 2518754
>>2518738
About 8 or 7, I assume.
>> No. 2518755
>>2518736
Someone's mad about the "alicorn" business.
>> No. 2518756
File 136103078095.png - (174.62KB , 849x941 , Pinkie Pie Vector It's a Gift from God___.png )
2518756
Welp...they did it...

I have no idea how they pulled it off...but they did...

I'd give it an 8/10.
>> No. 2518757
>>2518736

I think I'd rate it higher than that, though. I'm starting to think I'll put it in the "Great" tier but not the "Amazing" tier. Which would be around 6-8, depending on whether I get over the bowing.
>> No. 2518758
File 136103069807.png - (170.42KB , 700x937 , + squee [2].png )
2518758
I've been wanting a musical episode since day one. I got it, and it was GLORIOUS!
>> No. 2518759
File 136103070552.jpg - (41.60KB , 420x580 , 130341309877.jpg )
2518759
7/10, this episode was yet again the victim of being rushed.

>>2518741
>>2518742
As Twi jumps off the cart, the crowd ends with colgate, then dərpy is just fucking there standing on her own!
>> No. 2518760
File 136103080875.jpg - (57.98KB , 460x479 , Therapy inbound.jpg )
2518760
I CANNOT STOP LAUGHING

I don't know if I hate it for being insanely rushed through the biggest event in the show, and having quite basic dialogue
Or if I love it for doing something new and for being a musical and the animation quality and Celestia singing and ohghoghod liquid pride
>> No. 2518761
>>2518745

Yeah. First parts were great. Gotta process the last ten minutes.
>> No. 2518763
File 136103087743.png - (61.76KB , 225x240 , 1319814848423.png )
2518763
It... it... felt like an end. Like everything in the past two years (or so) has been just preparing to this. We knew it might happen, but now that it happened it feels so weird. As if this is the end. There's season 4, but... it just feels that the show just ended. Not like "the season ended", but "everything ended". The whole princess stuff should have happened in the absolutely last episode of the entire show.

The episode itself: 8/10.
Season 3: 8.5/10
My feelings: :-(/10
>> No. 2518764
>>2518751
Agreed, fantastic episode.
>> No. 2518765
>>2518759
Damn it. I hope they upload it fast or someone got a screencap.
>> No. 2518766
>>2518748

It seems we're in agreement then; really good episode overall but the bowing was really bad?

Wow, I didn't think we would be in agreement on this.
>> No. 2518767
File 136103113630.jpg - (87.73KB , 945x945 , 130517335423.jpg )
2518767
>>2518762
>things being inherently bad
>> No. 2518768
The heck was wrong with the bowing? That's just normal "royalty responce" in fiction.

Anyway I loved it, I never really doubted the shows producers would handle it well. MA Larson was a good choice for writer too, he's done many of my favorites in the past (Sonic Rainboom, Cutie Mark Chronicles, Return of Harmony, and Magic Duel).

Now the wait for the "second and third parts" will be quite a wait. Luckily I've been through longer waits than this, especially being a Zelda fan. :P
>> No. 2518769
File 136103092605.png - (40.90KB , 400x400 , Liquid Pride.png )
2518769
Dee shed liquid pride alongside best big brother, for Twilight, for the show, and most of all for our incredible staff.
>> No. 2518770
File 136103082816.jpg - (82.74KB , 930x807 , This isn't what it looks like.jpg )
2518770
I... I really don't know what to think of this episode. I was sort of cringing for half of it but awing in the other half. I think, with time, I'll grow to love it.

>>2518763
Yeah, it feels like the show ended... (and then we find out Season 4 is actually Equestria Girls)
>> No. 2518771
>>2518762
Well I don't think they're going to be bowing every time they see her. It was more like in honor of her just becoming one.
>> No. 2518772
>>2518760

I am almost laughing myself. 99% of my fears about this episode didn't come up (just the bowing). I feel so very very happy right now that it wasn't bad.
>> No. 2518773
So the ending was exactly how we expected it to be, but the execution was fair enough to make us see how the ending could at least be plausible instead of just taping a pair of wings on her.

Something feels amiss. Is she the princess of magic, twilight or friendship?
>> No. 2518774
File 136103091591.png - (125.10KB , 956x835 , smiling twilight.png )
2518774
The episode was done perfectly. The songs were great, the story was done as well as possibly could be given the 22 minute limit (my only real gripe with the episode was not getting more info about Starswirl's works). 12/10 - would watch again! And now we wait for Season 4, but with a much more optimistic disposition.

Everything is going to be fine friends. Everything is going to be fine.
>> No. 2518775
Everything is different now...
>> No. 2518776
File 136103092433.png - (185.22KB , 861x927 , 135760673084.png )
2518776
Flawless. Victory.
>> No. 2518778
File 136103104294.png - (1.75MB , 1128x1600 , 132292657816.png )
2518778
Is it really all over now? Will we never see a new episode again? I can't accept that.
>> No. 2518779
>>2518757

They also paraded alongside her at the end.

The bowing thing was just a formality that lasted all of two seconds. And even Celestia bowed. They were just showing respect for her new title.
>> No. 2518780
I expected her to encounter the GMan in the alternate border-world whatever she got sent to.
>> No. 2518781
File 136103098122.jpg - (486.23KB , 1836x2448 , 1361030735670.jpg )
2518781
dərpy
>> No. 2518782
I am filled with great uncertainty...

Most of the episode was pretty good, but still, the promotion just didn't feel all that appropriate. Making magic, that's the requirement? I mean, I know it had to do with friendship, was still...

And of course, the bigger matter is how they will use this in the show. I feel discontent and uneasy with the state of matters that we've been left with until S4.

>>2518729
I was really looking forward to that possible episode. Awww

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 09:10

>> No. 2518783
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2518783
Well in all seriousness I think the episode kinda sucked and it poses very serious problems for the show's future, but I'm not really upset at all. My emotional investment in this show kinda dropped off a while back.

I'm just having fun joining in with the intentionally overblown FANDOM OVER, EVERYTHING IS RUINED FOREVER antics everyone else is indulging in :D
>> No. 2518784
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2518784
And Dulset owes me 20 bucks.
>> No. 2518785
Um, wow. I saw nothing that was wrong. Maybe someone can convince me otherwise, but I loved it all. I'm a little confused about people saying it was "rushed" or why the bowing was a bad thing.

Welp, I can't wait for high quality song uploads. I want them all! except maybe one, but still!
>> No. 2518786
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2518786
Um...what's so bad about the bowing again?
>> No. 2518787
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>>2518770
I don't actually think my cringing was fair, I feel like I was cringing for no reason. I'll definitely rewatch it when it comes up, I think I was paying too much attention to chats and just hyping up (or, well, hyping down technically?).
>> No. 2518788
So besides being rather rushed, having the stupidest ending, no real character interaction, a stupid ending, and having a bad stupid dumb ending.

I liked it.
>> No. 2518789
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2518789
Well, guys I don't know what actually happened. We were expecting a somewhat inadequate explanation of Twilight's completely unnecessary, possibly damaging to the show princess hood, but virtually no explanation or what it entails WHATSOEVER? Celestia's explanations were very little-revealing and actually depressing I think. I haven't seem an episode yet in mlp with so little actual material, so I'm betting that's not good. And from the emotional tone and atmosphere of the episode overall I think our fears have been somewhat supported; this is going to be a big change in Twilight's life, somehow, and the show, and I don't think that's good, either. Mlp never needed to change so drastically.
What do you guys think?
>> No. 2518790
>>2518772
Mostly I'm laughing at the insane reactions in the chat.

But yeah, the quality of it all was... pretty astounding! And Celestia singing! And bowing to Twilight! Jesus!

I'm conflicted about that too, to be honest. The demigod of Equestria bowing to little old Twilight Sparkle? Dang.
>> No. 2518791
Hmm, I'm going to have to start gathering plot images just in case. A month ago I said that if this was rated the best episode of the season in the February poll I would change my name to plotman and post using only pony plot.

/pic/ can get me this, right?
>> No. 2518792
>>2518772

>Translation: Dee was right all along and I was a silly filly for not giving the episode a fair chance before deciding it would be terrible. Dee is also the most handsome stallion in all of ponydom and an awesome cook to boot.
>> No. 2518793
>>2518780

Pinkiespace. Behind the 11th wall.
>> No. 2518794
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2518794
Could have been better. Could have been worse. Overall just felt very lackluster and felt like they were moving something along just to get it over with.
>> No. 2518796
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2518796
Well, I'm glad to see there is a lot of positivity so far.

I loved the first three-quarters of the episode. I'm still on the fence about the last section, going to need to watch it again.
>> No. 2518797
>>2518794
So hard to impress people these days.
>> No. 2518798
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2518798
It was alright...nothing great.
>> No. 2518799
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>>2518781
"Dərpy's dead guys, Hasbro killed her, hahaha"

SUCK IT BITCHES, WHO'S LAUGHING NOW?!
>> No. 2518800
>>2518778

Season 4 dude. Season 4.

Everything is different now...
>> No. 2518801
>>2518795

DƎRPY IS NOT DEAD!!! SHE LIVES!!! HUZZAH!!!
>> No. 2518802
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2518802
I really liked it, but it's weaker than the other finales. I guess I should note that I really love the other finales

The episode was pretty good up until Twilight became an alicorn. Then it sort of teetered off a little in terms of quality. Not bad by any means just . . . different? I don't know, I have to process this and watch it again before I know how I feel.

Right now it would probably be in the 8 range.
>> No. 2518803
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2518803
speaking of that...I was in this thread when it happened and people disregarded this.
>pic
>> No. 2518804
>>2518760
And don't forget, every single major moment flashing before their eyes when normalized.

>>2518762
Formality done once, probably out of respect for the fact Twi got her degree in friendship studies.

>>2518773
Friendship, and we got better definitions of what the Elements actually are, just like Magic it was all a for what Celestia said towards the end
>> No. 2518805
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>>2518781
>>2518799
GAH!

Well, small price to pay, really.
>> No. 2518806
Youtube embed play button
  >>2518789

I think change is good, the status quo needs to be shaken up every now and then, do you know what you get when your characters remain in a state of character development stasis? You get this, a series where the opening has changed more than any given character in the past ten years.
>> No. 2518807
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>>2518794
Honest question. Did you like any season three episode?

Kinda weird to see someone posting as Pinkie and being so... unpositive. No offense or anything!
>> No. 2518808
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>>2518803

I saw that as well.

Well played, anon...
>> No. 2518809
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>>2518803


Uhhh, I've never seen that before. When did that happen?
>> No. 2518810
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2518810
Ok. Here it comes.

I loved this. The show is quite musical and I kinda waited for something like this to show up. but not like this. This was better. I loved all the songs. And Celestia song HGNNNN

It was rushed, but, at the same time, it didn't felt like it until the very end. It was basically about friendship until the very end.

This episode simply wrapped up almost everything they set up on the show. Twilight finished her studies and met what Celestia was planning for her until the very beginning. I've always had this feeling Celestia was grooming Twi for something big. So this was it. The part when she reveals what will happen to Twilight... I got goosebumps.

I'm appalled, really. This was truly something.

If the show were to end like this, It would end perfectly.
>> No. 2518811
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I... I don't know how to feel about this. Before the episode I tried not to care about her becoming an alicorn, and I think I might be able to accept it, but the episode was so rushed. It really needed to be a two-parter. Everyone was sick of the songs by like, the fourth one and if it was broken up into a two-parter with the same number of songs it might've been better. I say the limit is 3 songs per 1-parter.
>> No. 2518812
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2518812
Hmmm. I'd say... 3/5. Not great, not bad, the ending left me concerned but I liked the songs and the story up through the point that she finished the spell. The big thing for me was they they seem to want to change the setting to Canterlot or something. Oh, and they missed a lot of story opportunities having Twilight getting used to her new body. And I hope that mane style was just a temporary thing.
>> No. 2518813
>>2518809
a while back...well monday the 11th of February
>> No. 2518814
anyway, 8/10

feels the episode, but I am no less worried than before
>> No. 2518815
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2518815
What's going to happen to the library now? Is it all abandoned? Left to rot, forgotten, to collect dust. The lights have been turned off. What about Spike? The Ponyville in general? Their adventures?

All the memories. They can't throw it all away, right?
>> No. 2518816
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2518816
If anything I'm interested in that Pocket Dimension that Twi was pulled into...Maybe it's Alicorn land....
>> No. 2518817
>>2518803

Five bits says it's the same Anon people disregarded when he successfully "predicted" the plot of Return of Harmony due to the fact it "makes no sense for them to have to find the elements again."
>> No. 2518818
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2518818
>this episode in a nutshell
>> No. 2518819
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>>2518802
The problem with the last bits of the episode is that it was a big party with no conflict or anything. Sure you can go "oh, I'm so PWOWD of her" the first time, but rewatchability is going to suffer dramatically.

The problem was fixed halfway through the ep, and it had nothing to sustain itself with for the rest of its runtime. The problem itself was solved in such a formulaic way and took such a long time that it was essentially solved the moment it was introduced. Twilight figured out exactly what to do in maybe... fifteen seconds and then she spend the next few minutes acting it out? The problem was already solved, writers! There is no more conflict!

>>2518816
It is the Twilight Zone.
>> No. 2518820
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2518820
Songs boost it over MD in my rankings and I'm unsure if I'd place it higher than SiP or not.
>> No. 2518821
Youtube embed play button
  to everyone leaving the fandom now, like they've been claiming for the past 3 weeks:
>vid related

If the fandom actually had a door, I couldn't possibly usher you out of it fast enough. You won't be missed, and I'm excited to see what /arch/ looks like in S4 without all the doomsayers.
>> No. 2518822
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>>2518816

I'd also like to know more about that place.
>> No. 2518823
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>>2518817
To be fair, I'm still not sure I understand why they had to find the elements again. That is weird.

>>2518818
Feel free to explain yourself, lol.
>> No. 2518824
Hmm...I liked it. Rarity and Pinkie were awesome. Celestia song was bitching. Liquid Pride. Overall pretty good.

But, does anypony know what the fuck that spell she created actually did? Or why the Apple family didn't seem to notice that AJ was missing?
>> No. 2518825
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>>2518816
I halfway expected Space Core to fly across the screen.
>> No. 2518826
>>2518821

We'll get new ones, we always do.
>> No. 2518827
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>>2518821
>what /arch/ looks like in S4 without all the doomsayers
>> No. 2518828
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>>2518821
It's good to see the residents of ponychan are friendly to folks.
>> No. 2518829
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>>2518763
This finale definitely had a "series finale" feel. I'm actually going to treat it as such. S4 will be the beginning of the second series "Twilicorn Adventures" or something.

I've been waiting all season for a song I truly enjoyed and this delivered in spades. Can't think of a single one I disliked. The best was that song Twilight sang when she was all sulky in her room.
>> No. 2518830
Do you know what the space scene and all of the "everything's going to be just fine" reminds me of?

Amnesia spoilers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_niCjMgz-Sw#t=9m25s

IT REALLY IS THE END!
>> No. 2518831
>>2518815
>“It’s not like [Twilight] is leaving – if she was leaving or the stories would change, or the main six [characters] would change, or other things that really draw in the audience would change, then I would say that there’s valid reason to be worried,” Strong said. “But there’s really not. It’s the same but better.”
>> No. 2518832
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2518832
You know, I've known about Twilicorn for quite awhile and have constantly seen pictures of it so I thought I had accepted it, but actually seeing it in the show was weird. Anyone else have the same reaction?
>> No. 2518833
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>>2518821
Now I'm tempted to stick around as a "doomsayer" just to see the look on your face when I never leave.
>> No. 2518834
>>2518821

I haven't seen any doomsaying here, really. Jet seems a bit miffed, and Dulset is acting like Dulset normally acts, but other than that I haven't seen any negativity.

Though Unlikeable hasn't come on yet so I don't know for sure, I hope he thinks this episode is hopeful.
>> No. 2518835
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>>2518833
>said the anon
>> No. 2518836
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>>2518834

My power had to go off right as I was actually watching the episode so I'm not at my full posting capacity.
>> No. 2518837
>>2518833
same here
>> No. 2518838
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2518838
>>2518835
>Said EquestriaGuy
>> No. 2518839
So, Dee's personal fanon. Any pony can ascend to alicorn-status by not just discovering their purpose in life but doing something so truly spectacular that it exemplifies said purpose.
>> No. 2518840
>>2518836
Ouch. How much did you miss?
>> No. 2518841
>>2518836
so you didn't finish it?
>> No. 2518842
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>>2518838
You mean the guy who already "left forever" and yet... has been posting here?
>> No. 2518843
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>>2518838
>said Admiral "Miracle" Yang Wen-li

:)
>> No. 2518844
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2518844
>>2518832

Honestly...not really. In fact, I think it felt pretty natural. Just another reason why the episode was so good, I suppose lol~

The weirdest part for me was when Twi entered that trippy spacey place with all the flat-panel TVs floating in midair detailing her adventures since S1, but even then, that part wasn't bad.

>>2518836

Ouch. That bites, bro. Sorry that happened.
>> No. 2518845
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>>2518836
You better catch the episode and tell me what you think! ... if you want!
>> No. 2518846
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>>2518842
>> No. 2518847
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>>2518834

Dulset's just got her seaweed in a knot because there is no longer any ifs, ands, or butts about the canonicity of alicorn.
>> No. 2518848
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>> No. 2518849
I respectfully disagree with the positive opinions of the people in this thread. The show has been irrevocably changed from what it used to be and what drew us in in the first place. In particular, let me repost a point I made in another thread here.

>Mane six bow to Twilight
>Celestia bowing to Twilight

Absolutely disgusting. Twilight succeeded because of her friends, but now her status demands not friendship, but respect. I call bullshit if you say this won't affect how her friends treat/perceive her. I truly worry for the future of this show now.

While it is unfounded to speculate on the nature of season 4 prematurely, the trend that we have seen so far does not fill me with confidence. Twilight has the power now to suddenly fix everything. I fully expect that if season 4 continues to focus on the mane six, it will be the adventures of the mane 5 and GOD.

I do not like this prospect.
>> No. 2518850
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2518850
Pretty awesome for a pony episode. Pretty freakin' astonishing amazing for a kids' show episode overall.

See you in the Fall.

Adios bronies.
>> No. 2518851
Dammit, I missed the stream...
Well, guess I'll have to wait for the Youtube rip...
>> No. 2518852
>>2518836

I think I was more worried about your episode/at least more vocal about it, but I feel satisfied (except the bowing), I don't think you'll hate it too much.

>>2518839

Agreed.
>> No. 2518853
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2518853
Honestly, I'm in a state of bliss right now... The episode was everything I thought it was going to be. I think I'm just gonna leave /arch/ for the day, because I ain't gonna be brought down from this high.

Twilight Sparkle is on her throne, all is right in the world.
>> No. 2518854
>>2518851
Thievery now?
>> No. 2518855
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2518855
About the Space Zone, someone in the chat referenced it to Harry Potter. The scene where Harry dies and is in his personal heaven and Dumbledore tells him what happened and tells him he has the choice to come down because the horcrux inside him was killed, not Harry himself essentially.

Except Celestia isn't dead. Maybe she access the place anytime. Who knows, maybe Twilight died, the zone took her body, and just came back with wings.

/crazy head canon
>> No. 2518856
Seriously what was the spell she made? It just seemed to send her to space...was it a travel spell?
>> No. 2518857
>>2518851
http://www.justin.tv/xyrotr1_stream#/w/4879302112
I'm following one stream that has the episode 75% ready.
>> No. 2518858
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2518858
Well… That sure happened. I'll refrain from commenting too much before I watch it again and comment long form. Just a few things:

*I've mentioned what I think about cutie mark switching before. Apparently it also messed with their memories. Did it also mess with the memories of everypony else, or why did no-one complain about Rarity doing RD's job or the Apples about Pinkie messing up the farm? If it mindfucked everyone, why were Twi and Spike unaffected? If it was just the Bearers, why didn't anyone comment on that?

*RD's destiny is weather control? Yeah, she sure got her cutie mark when taming some clouds, right?

*Alicorn as a word confirmed.

*Twilight had to have Spike tell her to try and do something about her friends. Sure is a great leader there who just goes to her room and cries when she messes up. Just saying.

*No explanation on alicorns, and the transformation was put in the last moments of the episode. Also coronation.

*The songs weren't really that bad, but some were not that good, either. I'll have to rewatch to give better comments on those.

*Twilight can already fly like a pro. yyyyeah…

The episode itself wasn't that bad, but the premises were bad and the episode fails completely because of those.


I'll also try and not read comments before I do that, so that I don't get affected by those too much. Be back later.
>> No. 2518859
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>>2518849
>The idea that this won't affect how her friends treat/perceive her is Bullshit.
>> No. 2518860
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>>2518849
> Twilight succeeded because of her friends, but now her status demands not friendship, but respect.

It's not her status; it's her friendship.

If my best friend worked her flank off for years to help people and make the country a better place, and he or she finally got what she wanted, and getting that involved being put into a position of authority, you bet my flank I'd bow to them too. Because they're my friends, and I want them to feel like this is real, and this matters, and we're taking it seriously, and I sure as hell ain't gunna be the one person that screws up the best day of their life for them.

I'm not saying I'd make a habit of bowing, and I'd still give them shit (they ARE my best friend, after all) but at the announcement of their new status? I'd kiss the fucking ground.

When you have friends, you want them to be happy, even if it means an occasionally embarrassing thing for you. People here don't seem to understand that. I guess they've never really had great friends that they'd be willing to put themselves on the line for.
>> No. 2518861
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>>2518849
>the adventures of the mane 5 and GOD

That perception makes me laugh quite a bit.
Not cause I'm disagreeing, just cause it's silly.
>> No. 2518862
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>>2518860
>I'm not saying I'd make a habit of bowing, and I'd still give them shit (they ARE my best friend, after all) but at the announcement of their new status? I'd kiss the fucking ground.

This filly knows whats up.
>> No. 2518863
>>2518851

441!

It's exactly as glorious as you believed it would be, the Celestia song!
>> No. 2518864
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>>2518855
The
>It's all a dream/dying hallucination
Is a fall back for people who can seriously just not accept the episode.

But the
>She died and came back stronger
Works much better since; to start a new life, the old one must end.
>> No. 2518865
All in favor of calling that wierd dimension the "Celestial Void" ? Its a nice pun with Celestia.
>> No. 2518866
>>2518860
But it's not just her that has saved the world multiple times. It's all of them. All of them have worked so hard, and yet it's only Twilight that has been rewarded. They were once equals. Now there is an obvious power imbalance in the group.

Are they really bowing because they are proud?

Or are they bowing because she's the equivalent of god?
>> No. 2518867
>>2518865
I am in
>> No. 2518868
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>>2518865
I'm totally cool with that!
>> No. 2518869
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>>2518865
Celestial Void? I'm down.
>> No. 2518870
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>>2518865
I mentally labeled it "the Twilight Zone" before Celestia showed up and Twily was all alone. I can't un-think that.
>> No. 2518871
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2518871
Who else already had their glass of wine over this? I loved how she flew at the end.
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>>2518840

It cut off just as Fluttershy was singing her first part and I got back on on my laptop just as Twi was in that ethereal realm or whatever it was.

>>2518841

Yeah...but I missed the middle.

>>2518844

Yeah... thanks.

>>2518845

Not sure I'm going to touch it anymore... I'm going to sit back in the beginning of S3 with Sleepless in Ponyville and Wonderbolt Academy.

Not like I need to anyway - just as I did for RiaW, I'll hear pretty much all I need to know about the episode from what everyone says about it~
>> No. 2518873
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>pic related
>> No. 2518874
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>>2518865
I'll call it the Outer Realms. If you look hard enough, you'll find Yagrum Bagarn.
>>2518862
Exactly. Pride is one thing, but your best friend just got promoted to Immortal Godhood. Bowing is the only thing you can do. Like when Gandalf came back The White
>> No. 2518875
>>2518865

Dee is going with the Blagho.
>> No. 2518876
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>>2518865

I'm cool with that.

>>2518871

But I'm not old enough to drink...~

>>2518872

That's cool and all, but I really think you should see the whole thing for yourself and form your own opinion.
>> No. 2518877
SERIOUSLY! WHY DID TWILIGHT GET SENT INTO THE WEIRD VOID THING THANKS TO THE SPELL?! WAS IT A TRANSPORTATION SPELL?! SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER ME!
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>>2518866
You saw how they reacted. Dash doesn't give a crap about princesses and magic and all that - she's just happy to have a new flying buddy!

Yeah. Everything is going to be fine.
>> No. 2518879
>>2518865

"Celestial Void"

That definitely does not sound like the kind place I want go into. Think about it.
>> No. 2518880
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>>2518865
By my pillow hat, i declare this official with >>2518870
Twilight Zone coming in a close second.

>>2518866
They are bowing because she's their friend who just got elevated to a position that constitutes that type of respect.

Even Celestia bowed.
And they also went with her in the parade at the end.
>> No. 2518881
>>2518877
...She died.
>> No. 2518882
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>>2518870
Damn. Both good names.
>> No. 2518883
>>2518864
Well alright. Personally, my headcanon is the latter.

>>2518865
I'm going with Twilight Zone. Much punneier.
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>>2518860

That's all well and good, but did she accomplish those things by herself? Now that the episode has aired I can finally come out and say the one thing that did bother me about the Twilight Sparkle party.

It felt like it overhyped Twilight Sparkle's accomplishments and underplayed the fact that the group had an integral part in getting here there. Maybe that's okay for some, but it's not going to okay for everybody.

This could've been done better, but it wasn't done horribly either.
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>>2518880

Celestia bowed because even she knows she's least best princess.
>> No. 2518886
>>2518877
My headcanon:
>>2518855
>> No. 2518887
Hmm. Good ep, would have been better as a two-parter.

I'm glad my worries were mostly unfounded. It would have been better without the final flyby, though- I was really hoping Twi wouldn't know how to fly at all. ;)
>> No. 2518888
I'm quite happy with the way they decided to end the series. Lots of songs, lots of fun, and a new princess. It's been a fun ride folks. Enjoy your ponies, as for me (admittedly one anonymous lurker) I'm out. Show is finished and my interest will soon follow.
>> No. 2518889
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>>2518884
The ENTIRE EPISODE was about the friendships though! The destiny swapping, its solution, the magical counteraction, Celestia's explanation, and Twilight's balcony speech. There were plenty of times when the mane 6 were together, side by side. Twilight jumped off the car thing during her own parade to walk with them!

Every single second of that episode was about the fact that Twilight couldn't do it alone. You could make a case that this SEASON was about the fact Twilight couldn't do it alone, given how she got the Crystal Heart to work and how she defeated Trixie.

Really I don't know what else you'd want.
>> No. 2518890
>>2518870
Oh wow, that's a great pun. Hm, well we have Luna's Dreamscape, the Celestial Void, and now the Twilight Zone. All the alicorns have their own realms.
>> No. 2518891
>>2518888
...There's a season 4.
>> No. 2518892
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>>2518849
You might be right about the future, but I don't see how her friends bowing to Twilight was a bad thing. They were just respecting the great achievement their friend accomplished. It'd be a dick move if Twilight's friends didn't bow down, no?

you might be right that it aint why we started watching, but i just accepted this show will never give me as much joy as the entire first season did. wooo season one da bestt (boy i hope i dont anger anyone with that hahaaaa)

>>2518872
... Was it really that bad?
>> No. 2518893
>>2518886
I like this...sooo it was a killing spell?

>>2518881
I thought as much. Also thanks for answering me! I don't like being ignored, so this means a lot.
>> No. 2518894
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>>2518888
The show isn't ended bro, season 4 is coming.
>> No. 2518895
>>2518890

Except Princess Ice Cream Mane.
>> No. 2518896
>>2518888
Are you basically saying "The show is dead to me", or are you not aware that there's a season 4?
>> No. 2518897
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>> No. 2518898
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I know a lot of people had very poor expectations for this episode. I came into it with an open mind and not expecting anything and I know some people thought it was okay despite this, but I have to disagree and I'll explain why.
Characterization: 13/20
I know they were changed, but with the length of the episode they didn't really have enough time to let their character's develop. Their behavior seemed very forced in my opinion, not horrible, but forced. It would have been better if the episode was longer
Story: 8/20
However, switching cutie marks was a good premise for an episode. If they would have given it more time to develop and didn't rush the story it would have made a good episode in it's own right. Nice ideas, but executed horribly. For what I've seen there was no real purpose to making her an alicorn and it didn't help the story one bit; very slapped on. I sincerely hope they come up with a good reason to make up for it.
animation
music: 15/20
I might be a little bias on this one. I love love love the shows music. Celestia's singing was beautiful and the songs all came together well. I've actually been waiting for a really song heavy episode, perhaps all done in song, but I do have a few issues with it. Yeah, I like a song heavy episode, but it shouldn't have been at the finale. Season finale's are supposed to be for story, not for music. It kinda bothers me how they did that.
animation: 18/20
It was as good as ever, if not a little more polished. I enjoyed how the put it together and the effects were done well, if unexpected. I especially like the place she was teleported to after the spell was cast on her. It was very interesting looking and I imagine it looks like the world Luna enters dreams through. I call it "Dream Space". Sort of adding another dimension to their world.
execution: 2/20
All of my wtfs. In hind sight, it's fairly obvious that it was planned from the beginning. The book was visible at the beginning of the season, it reappeared to and was given to twilight and turned her into an alicorn. Honestly, changing characters doesn't bother me so long as it serves a purpose. For what I've seen there was no real purpose to making her an alicorn. Something like that belongs at the end of a series, not the middle. If they were planing on making the show only last seasons they should have either postponed this or just called it quits and rebooted it again later. Timing it this way has dealt a blow to the series as a whole.
>whywouldyoudothat.jpg

So, all in all I give it a 5.6 out of 10. I was quite dissapointed when the end credits rolled. In my opinion it did hurt the series as a whole do do things in this way. I really hope they can turn things around in the next season.
>> No. 2518899
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I know I said I wouldn't. I said I'd take a break. But I need to get this out. I feel really strange right now, and this is the only thing I can think of to calm my nerves.

The episode wasn't terrible. In fact, I enjoyed it for the most part. The songs were really good, even if there were a bit too many of them back to back. The story itself was interesting. However, it was solved way too easily. Twilight had that moment of "oh this is the worst thing I have ever done, and there is no spell to counter it! This is the end of everything!" and what was the solution? Trick them into doing what they're really destined to do to make them remember.
... Convenient. But again, not terrible.
Twilight suddenly figuring out Starswirl's unfinished spell gets her teleported to space? k
The transformation itself was done well. It was beautiful even. But something about it felt very very forced after it was all done. It was just way too much “Yea, Twilight, everyone look at her, isn’t she so amazing? Let’s all adore her incessantly!” It seemed very random to give such a big celebration over solving a problem that was so small in comparison to what they’ve gone through prior to this moment.
But hammy and forced presentation aside, I did enjoy some parts, especially Celestia’s singing voice. I can give it a 7/10, but that’s about as high I can go honestly.
I can agree with everyone else saying that this was a great way to end a series, even if it would need something more climactic before the coronation.
But the thing is, I never really expected the episode itself to be terrible. I was dreading the episode not for the episode itself, but for what it means for the future of the series. So I’m not really sure why people are saying “it’s fine, we can all relax now” when we still have to wait so long to see how this huge change affects our series.
Okay, I’m done this time. Now I’m really taking my leave of absence.
>> No. 2518900
I felt like they had 3 great ideas for episodes and mashed it into 1.

The Cutie Mark swap could've made a great entire episode.
A musical episode would've been great combined with a simple plot, so the episode can focus on the entertainment value of the songs.
Alicorn Twilight should've been done in at least 1 entire episode, if not 2 or a movie.

Apart from each other all of those would've been great (apart from Alicron Twilight maybe), but like that it just felt weird.

The last 5 minutes were cringeworthy, but up to that point it was a decent episode.

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>>2518889

More agency for the other characters when episodes like this come around. One of the problems with Twilight episodes lately is the fact that it seems like no one else can do anything on their own without screwing it up first. The rest of the Mane 6 are much more competent then this season played them up to be.
>> No. 2518902
That was certainly better than I expected it to be. The episode did feel a little rushed, but for only having about twenty-two minutes for everything to take place, it was written well.
I actually like that they didn't spend so much time on the coronation bit, because it made it seem as though Twilight being a princess really wasn't that big of a deal. Not sure why some of you are complaining about the bowing, it was obviously a congratulatory bow of respect, and not the 'we are now beneath you' bow of submission that you are painting it as. I liked the songs, excluding the annoying "BEHOLD!" as that was a bit much...
I think my only issue with this episode was Twilight flying at the end. I may have been doom and gloom about Twilicorn, but a flying episode with her was something I kind of wanted.

I can't believe I spent time freaking out about this. I really need to have more faith in the writers. Solid episode, 8/10.
>> No. 2518903
>>2518893
It wasn't necessarily an effect of the spell, it was the EoH.
>> No. 2518904
>>2518902
I hate when people just say "this". So I'll just say: I agree. It was good, but as usual it suffered from rushness.
>>2518899
I don't get this "Great way to end the series" idea. This episode specifically would be terrible to end it all on.

The change may be somewhat, uneasy to accept. But the fact that we get to see where this is going....eh pretty good.
>> No. 2518905
Imagine if instead of meeting Celestia, when Twilight teleported she met Discord instead?

It'd pretty much be this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hOT9TJTLxg
>> No. 2518906
>>2518893
Headcanon states that her body was brought up to be given the wings and the explanation, kind of like how Harry died, but his body was still on earth.

So kinda yes and no. This entire thing was not a hallucination, since she did come back with a change and she was not unconscious. She could've been either transported up to the Zone, or her body died and her conscious was transported, giving her a new body.

But that last assumption is dumb because she was zapped and there was no body any way, so, uh, burnt to a crisp?

I don't know, you decide.
>> No. 2518907
Still processing how I feel about this episode. But in the meantime, some good small stuff. Cameos by Vinyl Scratch, Davenport the sofa and quill pony, Gummy, and even a blink-and-you-miss-her Dərpy. Cherry Berry and Berry Punch are very agile. Cherry again as a balloon pilot. (Did Fluttershy forget she can fly again?) Rarity's desire for design, even when working with weather. And "liquid pride". I'm going to remember that one for future use.
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>>2518894
>>2518891
...wat.

Pic related. My reaction to this news.
>> No. 2518909
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10/10 from me.
>> No. 2518910
Ya know to be perfectly honest, my LEAST favorite season finale was the season 1 finale. Yeah that's right "Faust season" fanboys and girls, I think the season 3 finale was better. The irony is that my reason for not liking the season 1 finale as much is because the episode wasn't as "grand" as I expected. (it's ironic because that actually seemed to be the point of the episode, to not get expectations too high) Now did I think "Best Night Ever" was a good episode? Yes, but I didn't really see it as a "great" season finale.

Now before someone tries to attack me for whatever reason, if I had to be as objective as BUCK, then I suppose my one major complaint with Magical Mystery Cure is that at least two of the songs in the episode that I just loved the moment I heard them were a bit too short. Celestia's song and the song Twilight sings when she feels she messed up everyone's destinies. Those songs were so great that if they had been longer they could have potentially dethroned "This Day Aria" as my all time favorite MLP:FiM song. I'm hoping maybe Daniel Ingram releases "extended" version of those songs at some point.

BUT other than that, I'd rate this episode... 9/10. I kept my expectations realistic as possible and even still came away more impressed than I thought I'd be. Twilight's always been one of my favorite characters in the series, and to see that after three seasons of friendship, lessons, and expanding her magical abilities has paid off in such a big way, I'm quite pleased. She's still the Twilight we know, but she has shown that her destiny was probably always meant to be greater than we thought all along.

Also, I like to imagine the final words of the episode, "everything is fine," is meta as buck. It's like staff is outright saying "call your plots, we're not jumping the shark."
>> No. 2518911
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I gotta admit it, Shinning Armor is such a lovable guy, I'm glad they decided to give him that little cutesy moment with his beloved sister.
>> No. 2518912
>>2518911

Best big brother is best stallion.
>> No. 2518913
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>>2518910
I am SO with you on the season 1 finale not being great. The theme of the season 1 finale is essentially, "You will never get what you want, but that's okay, because your friends won't either and you can be miserable together."

It kind of ends everything on exactly the wrong tone, and suggested to me that the show was never going to take any big risks with anything in favor of keeping the status quo. That was... well, almost soulcrushing. The show was cute, but it really hurt me to think that they weren't going to end up answering the questions they proposed - would Twilight ever really fit in? Would Dash and Rarity achieve their dreams? Would the CMCs ever get their cutie marks? Was there a point to AJ's character?

I loved the show in season 1, but I wasn't at all sure it was a show I could love for seasons to come, if it continued to spin its wheels in throw-away slice-of-life episodes that don't affect any of the characters in any meaningful way.

We've come a long way since then. And I suspect a lot of it isn't so coincidentally timed with Laurent not being here any longer.
>> No. 2518914
>>2518911
I admit if I had a sister like Twi, I would definitely be shedding some liquid pride at her graduation/coronation/apotheosis
>> No. 2518915
>>2518910
Yeah I could feel the Meta in that last line.

Better "Everything'll be okay" with a happy tone instead of "Everything's different now" with a smile
>> No. 2518916
>>2518903
Wait so what the fuck was the spell then?

>>2518906
God I hope the movie isn't EG related now because my mind is so full of fuck.
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>>2518911
>>2518912
>>2518914
>> No. 2518918
>>2518907
I have to admit that seeing Vinyl there angered me a little. That may have been my only "fan pandering!!!!!!!" moment ever. Also, she looked weird from the front. She ugly. bleh.

>(Did Fluttershy forget she can fly again?)

If you had wings (especially if you weren't good at flying) would you want to fly all the way to Cloudsdale or have someone take you there? Maybe you would if you didn't feel like coughing up the currency, but ol' Flutters ain't the greatest at flying. "But what about the time sh-" OH WELL YOU SEE UMMM STOP POKING HOLES IN MY LOGIC THIS SHOW IS FLAWED RADARADADARADafzsdsds (consider this writer's block)
>> No. 2518919
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>>2518914

Trust me, when you have a little sister, trying to forge and temper her into becoming a better person than yourself eventually becomes something as natural as breathing, that's why I just love these little moments and I am glad they keep giving me small treats when possible.

>>2518912

Agreed! He makes Paladins, like me, proud.

>>2518913

Not to mention that S1 had that horrible "What!? That's all!!!???" feel that other seasons so far have tried to stay away from, and I love that.
>> No. 2518920
>>2518918
Yeah that too, Vinyl was very out of place.
>> No. 2518921
>>2518906
Actually I think I self contradicted myself. Maybe she died on the spot, but the Zone took her body immidiantly to replace it, and her conscious was up there instead.
>> No. 2518922
>>2518918
90% of her ZOMG faster than dash is when she goes into beast mode.
>> No. 2518923
>>2518916
I believe the spell is one that swaps destinies and cutie marks, which Twilight completed by finding out how to reverse its effects.
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>>2518751
Yeah, except Twilight's friends don't really know what's this all means for her, not even Twilight herself, only Celestia seems to. So we can't really count on them. I'd be overflowing with happiness if my friend just got promoted to CEO or something, and wouldn't immediately think of the friend moving away for the job/etc (not saying that will definitely happen, but you get the meaning).
>>2518763
I kinda feel like you do. Words can't describe the feelings of 'finality' about this episode.
>>2518784
And he also owes me for the episode somewhat turning out ok, lol :D
>>2518799
I didn't see that in the actual episode but just saw the pic of her on the side. This one thing will help me love the episode through this whole Twilicorn business.
>>2518803
You, , do an invaluable service to my heart by pointing that out. You honestly have my eternal gratitude.
>>2518832
..Yeah
>>2518844
I think that place wasn't even an actual alternative dimension of sorts, just a temporary mindscape that Celestia helped create and symbolized Twilight's change or something. .. I don't really know, either.
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>>2518916
It's called a crazy headcanon for a reason, babe.
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>>2518922
Oh yeah, you're probably right. Thanks for that.
>> No. 2518927
Ah man, I loved that. Every last bit of it, I even had a little liquid pride going on at Celestia's song.
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>>2518900
I agree with this man. Yes I do.
>> No. 2518929
>>2518923
...and that caused the elements to attack her? I mean Star Swirl had a whole book of spells, but apparently that wasn't good enough.
>> No. 2518930
>>2518916

>"From one to another, another to one, a mark of one's destiny singled out, fulfilled."
>"From all of us together, together we're friends, with the marks of our destinies made one, there is magic without end."
>Both flawed and finished versions affect the elements.
>Finished version requires a deep understanding of friendship.
>Finished version causes the elements to focus their powers upon the wielder of Magic.

I'm going to say the spell's intent is to channel the powers of the elements into the wielder of Magic, giving them more power and control than the elements normally are capable of.
>> No. 2518931
>>2518929
What if he did the same thing as Twi and acidentally his own talent?
>> No. 2518932
>>2518929
Could be that it wasn't finishing the spell itself that did that, but the act of completing the spell with her friends that fulfilled her destiny and allowed her to transcend.
>> No. 2518933
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>> No. 2518934
>>2518925
Yeah, but now we have to wait like 8 months to find out what the fuck is going on!

>>2518930
Yeah that would make sense...probably.
>> No. 2518935
>>2518934
Twilight was zapped, sent to space and got wings for finishing her lessons.

If you meant 'What are they going to do now with this premise?" then yes, it'll be a long wait.
>> No. 2518936
When I first heard the... news, I had mixed feelings, but I'm much more relieved now.

The episode was pretty good, for the most part. On the upside, the music was good, and as someone who considers Twilight their favorite pony, she was excellent. Story was good, and even the idea of Star Swirl's final spell was interesting. Star Swirl was trying to become an alicorn and failed, apparently. Now if THAT isn't food for fanfic, I don't know what is.

On the other hand... did anyone DO anything this episode besides Twilight? It was awfully convenient how no one remembered themselves or asked for help. And how they all just basically bowed and cheered when she got her wings. (On the other hand, Rainbow Dash trussed up in a stewpot was one of the most jawdroppingly hilarious things I've seen in this show.)

This is going to make everyday life in Ponyville fairly interesting. A little country town now has a princess/demigoddes/alicorn living there (and unless I'm mistaken, Discord is still around too). Factor in the Elements of Harmony and Everfree, and Ponyville is the magical center of Equestria.

On the CANON side: We've finally explicitly linked the term "alicorn" to winged unicorns, which is a plus. And, unless I'm mistaken, this may the first time that Celestia has acknowledged that Nightmare Moon was a thing that happened (since episode 1). Also, cutie marks DO determine your destiny, and you can never escape them no matter what. That has some worrisome implications.

One question remains for me though: If Twilight became an alicorn through highly advanced magic that involved the Elements... what happened to Cadance? It seems like we've got even less of an answer than before.

I'd say, over all, good episode. 7.5 out of ten, with about 1 point off for my personal foibles with demoting the rest of the 6 and raising more confusing questions about alicorns. They handled it as fairly as they could, especially given that the executive order was probably "sell this toy."

My younger brother, on the other hand, wishes me to inform the internet that he is heavily concerned by this turn of events.
>> No. 2518937
>>2518929
What happened was that, after Twilight finished fixing her friends, she realized that Starswirl's spell was missing an emphasis on friendship. When she finished writing in the line about her friends, that completed the spell and made the elements transport her past the 4th wall where Celestia would watch her.
>> No. 2518938
>>2518930

Further extrapolation. The malfunction in the spell was in the wording "From one to another, another to one" specifically, the elements being marks of destiny tied to some extent to the cutie marks of the wielders. Because of this the spell transfered the marks of destiny "from one to another" rather than channeling the powers of the marks as intended.
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>>2518806
I completely agree with what you're saying. The thing is I just don't think they needed to demolish/absolutely decimate shake up the statu quo that much. I mean, who wouldn't be happy with developments like the Crystal Empire every once in a while, with the regular slice of life ep.s we know and love going on?
>>2518849
I greatly fear this trend as well. I hope to God our prayers, bickering, and legitimate complaints will reach all appropriate ears and the team will do their DAMNEST best to fix the mistakes made in this episode, like with the bowing, in S4.

We must all remember this is My Little Pony. It's very existence is a miracle, have faith. Twilight's message at the end supports this.
>> No. 2518940
>>2518889
This.
>> No. 2518941
>>2518889
Who pissed in your cheerios?
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>>2518941
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>>2518941
Howie Mandel.
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>>2518941
It's probably unwise to start naming names.
>> No. 2518945
Just watched the episode.
Here lies my thoughts: >>36550638
>> No. 2518946
The songs were cute but everything else felt rushed and lazy...not to mention way too indulgent for Twilight. They managed to hit every bad Mary Sue cliche in the book; and this is coming from someone who loves Twilight and was excited to see her become an alicorn. It was just done so poorly...
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>>2518944
>It never ends this shit
Son, let me tell you something.:If you're angry at someone, it's best to get it out of the way now otherwise this will just be uncomfortable for all of us.
>>2518945
Or you could've copied and pasted
>> No. 2518948
i personally think the episode was just fine, not a great episode but defiantly not a bad one either.
i loved the way it was like a musical and i thought the plot was interesting with a good pacing.

but as you might think as well im not that keen on the idea of twilight becoming a princess.
but im not up and arms about it either.
we still didnt see anything to really judge the move.

(hey, maybe itll not be permanent at all, like it's shown here:http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/02/season-finale-has-bit-of-continuity.html
i assume season 4 will start with a two-parter that will connect directly with this episode, i believe that it will be something of the kind of twilight trying to adapt to princesshood and cant because she misses her friends making the sacrifice of losing her newly acquired status and become a regular unicorn again.)

anyway those are my hopes, but even if it doesnt happen, i still trust the writers to make the best of this. i always try to assume the best not the worst. a lot of people here should really try that sometimes, just saying.
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>>2518945

It seems to me that you came, twice~
>> No. 2518950
>>2518949
I came until there was no more cumming to be done.
The room is white.
>> No. 2518951
The first half was okay (though I'm seriously irked at the over-reliance on LOL LUK EVERY1 PONIES OUT OF CHARACTER, FUNNY AMIRITE?! this was a little less offensive than most examples), aside from the whole 'let's start with a nearly pointless musical number and then clumsily introduce the catalyst of this plot in a rushed, vague flashback' thing.

After everything got fixed, though...ugh, I'm cringing. It's like somebody made Twilight their self insert Mary Sue and made everyone suck up to her/gave her everything/made her perfect and modest. I really was excited for this, she's probably my mane 6 favorite (standalone, anyway) but I KNEW 22 minutes wasn't enough to make anything decent.
>> No. 2518952
I'm still not a huge fan of twilicornication, and I'm a little dubious about how it's going to affect season 4. But who knows, maybe they'll actually take alicorn Twilight into interesting directions in future episodes? Stranger things have happened, and they do have some great writers.

This was easily the best episode of season 3 especially up to Celestia's song. After that it fell flat a little bit, but still an excellent episode overall.
>> No. 2518953
Although on this episode, I FINALLY managed to figure out why Pinkie Pie just wasn't funny this season.
They draw TOO MUCH ATTENTION ON TO HER.
Seriously, everytime she does something goofy, the camera focuses on her, she yells at the top of her lungs, and generally, a goofy musical note plays.
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>>2518953
Dude.

Stop talking sense.

We're supposed to be blindly raging.
>> No. 2518955
>>2518954
Nope, Celestia's song put me in a unfuckable mood.
>> No. 2518956
I feel like I just watched a recap. One of those massive ones before a season opener that picks out all the important highlights. I've just watched half of what seems like a FANTASTIC episode. Seriously, where are the other 22 minutes?
>> No. 2518957
>>2518956

They're coming, just wait 7-9 months!
>> No. 2518958
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Oh. I'm sorry. PANDAMANTIUM RAGE!
>> No. 2518959
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Okay, so uh...finale. Yeah.

I can't help but feel that a lot of it went by rather quickly, due to everything being a song. The episode started and then was over before I knew it.

The fact that there were like ten fuckin' songs kinda took away from each one's specialness, IMO. I only found a couple of them to be kinda good, the rest just weren't my thing.

Now on the subject of Alicorn Twilight...WHAT THE HAY, they left it so open! I suppose they're limited to 22 minutes, but it was just like "HEY EVERYPONY TWILIGHT IS A PRINCESS NOW!" *credits*. The question of "How will the show continue" is left completely un-answered. Didn't say whether she'd be staying in Ponyville or Canterlot, didn't say what she'd be doing as a princess...nothing. Unless you want to take Celestia's words literally; in that case S4 will be a clone of S1 but with "princess lessons" or some crap.

And I'm still left with the fact that Twilight is now a super-duper-special-Alicorn-princess and her friends are still just her friends. I suppose this is a personal issue, but the show suddenly promoting one of the friends way high above the others makes Twilight stick out in an awkward way to me.

Oh well, time to ride out the 7+ month wait to see if the show is destroyed or not.

Overall, pretty good episode, 8.5/10.
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>>2518953
The spittake gag was about the only one that got a lol out of me.
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>>2518953

That's So Pinkie!

Yeah, that's pretty much it. The heavy focus and reliance on her for comedy is, well, it just doesn't work. This isn't Looney Toons, and while some of her actions might be in reference to the cartoon of old, that doesn't mean it'll always work.

>>2518955

Oh really~?

Anyways...

Holy fuck that was a good episode. The songs! The Pinkamena! The actually sort of an explanation for what a princess is in this show! The actually calling her an alicorn! The songs! The songs! And have I mentioned the songs?!

And Luna was there, too. And they acknowledged her!
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>>2518960
Only bit that made me laugh was the rest of the mane 6's faces just after it looked like the Elements had blown up Twilight.
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>>2518955
I love musicals too much to be mad at this episode

>>2518958
Rawwwr~

dumb writers and their silly wings
retconning something something fanpandering
>> No. 2518964
>>2518960
Yes, the spittake is what made me realize that.
Seriously, think about it, wouldn't it have been a lot funnier if the camera showed the reaction of the entire Mane 6, with Pinkie doing her spit take in the background, without any sound?
Think about it back in FiM part 2, remember when Pinkie fell flat on her face or opened the ocular gushers? Think about how funny it would have been if the camera focused entirely on her while a goofy note played.
>> No. 2518965
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As a side note, am I the only one who finds this "Twilicorn" term to be absolutely stupid? Not only does it...not really imply Alicorn-ness, but it just sounds dumb.
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>>2518965

That's exactly why I use it.
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>>2518965
Sounds almost as silly as she looks in the dress.
>> No. 2518968
>>2518965

>absolutely stupid

I had assumed that was the point since I've seen it mostly from detractors.
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>>2518967

And looks with those wings!
>> No. 2518970
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I think this video properly describes the state of the fandom
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>>2518965
I think it sounds dumb too. As does the concept, so it works. I thought "Twalicorn" made it clearer but so long as it's silly.

>>2518964
That's a good point...
>> No. 2518972
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Also this.
>> No. 2518973
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Holy Celestia, that episode was epic. For those of you who can't think outside of numerical scales, it was epic/10. A musical, some of Ingram's finest work in MLP:FIM.

About the only critique I could levy against it is that whole, "Hail the princess" scene probably rubbed everybody who hated the idea of Twilicorn the wrong way.

"I don't like Twilicorn."
"I DON'T THINK YOU'RE HAILING THE PRINCESS HARD ENOUGH."
"No, I don't think it's good for the show."
"Let me just answer that with the 'Everything's Going To Be Fine!' song."

Ah well, the whole episode was so overwhelmingly on the assault of being epic that I imagine most detractors are in a state of shock right now.
>> No. 2518974
>>2518965

I always used it because I hate the idea of alicorn Twilight, and the stupid name seems fitting for the stupid idea.
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Rainbow Dash had the best dress of them all.
Nuff said
>> No. 2518976
>>2518975
Actually, from the tumbnail, I thought she had a little pirate hat.
So sad that she didn't.
>> No. 2518977
>>2518975
Rainbow Dash's hat, is it just me or does it look like a pimp hat?
>> No. 2518978
>>2518967
That hair bugged me constantly.
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>>2518975
Hm, yeah. I tried to disagree, but I like it the most. But I really do like Applejack's. Methinks she looks nice in blue.
>> No. 2518980
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Fluttershy recolors
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>>2518973
My stance on Alicorn Twilight is still the same. I don't like it unless they can make it work in a believable way.

They gave us no closure on it, no idea of how the series will continue or anything. Just "TWILIGHT ALICORN!" *credits*. Bagh.
>> No. 2518982
>>2518980
the horror, they are going to take the hasbro pony design technique
>> No. 2518983
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It was an alright episode, but cutie marks now have to do with destiny instead of special talents?

Also, if Starswirl the Bearded finished that spell, would he have became a princess?

Alternatively Celestia says it has to do with her writing magic, but Starswirl wrote tons of spells and Twilight was only refining an already made one.
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>>2518983

>would he have became a princess
>> No. 2518985
>>2518975
I love that hat. Swagbuckler.
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>>2518980
Best fivesome ever.
>> No. 2518987
>>2518973

Most of it didn't rub me the wrong way, just the bowing. Like I said, they handled it well by giving Twilight emotions and making her feel awful for what she did to her friends, as opposed to "oh no I did the spell wrong and I'm in trouble."

Really, rewatching CE this morning, why is her worst fear not passing a test, not something like this where her friends' lives are ruined because of her, or she loses her friendships, etc.?
>> No. 2518988
>>2518983
And now I have this funny scenario on my head.

"YES! FINALLY! After years of study, I have finally attained the powers of the gods! I, Starswirl the Bearded, AM NOW AN ALICOR- Wait, where did my balls go? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!"
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>>2518980
Main6 recolor blindbags...CANON?

KILL ME
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>>2518983
> Also, if Starswirl the Bearded finished that spell, would he have became a princess?

Not sure. Intentionally left vague. It's all about destiny, apparently. Though this show uses "destiny" as a lot of other concepts such as magic, friendship, and (paradoxically) free will.

I'm still a bit confused at how they're using the term, but it's both all-important and completely malleable.
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>>2518987

Twilight should've said "My friends...you bow to no one"

Then all of Equestria bows to them.
>> No. 2518992
>>2518973
See I don't consider the final song to be an actual song on its own, it's basically a reprise of the opening song.

>>2518982
Like they did with all the backgrounders in S1?

>>2518983
I think it had to do with the Elements, like 90% of fantasy magic mcguffins they amplify magic. I think it wasn't just the friendship (which is magic) that he didn't have, he didn't have the power.
>> No. 2518993
>>2518985
Yeah the hat is the coolest part. So stylish.
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>>2518991
Not THAT is how you handle a coronation.
>> No. 2518995
>>2518991

That would have been cheesy (of course) but still would have worked wonderfully. But I mean she DID do something similar with the whole speech that brought her friends towards her when she said she wouldn't be there without them. It's not quite the same, but the message I feel is. Plus she gets off her ride and steps in time with her friends during the parade. I thought the message was clear enough.
>> No. 2518996
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>Teh Loogix.
Well, they've never grinded the logic particularly hard on this show, and this episode is no exception.

To break it down:
>Twilight fucks up her friends' destinies by reading spell she knows is broken like a tool.
>All of Twilight's friends immediately lose their memories and apparently figure they were just crappy at their special talent all along, but still remember everything else.
>Twilight fixes her mistake by asking the pony she knows has the appropriate special talent to give a helping hoof. They get their memories back and aren't the least bit pissed off at Twilight.
>She then has the epiphany that Starswirl's spell just needs moar friendship. The second she changes the scroll, it causes the elements of harmony to blast her into the friendship zone. Celestia shows up and says, "Yo dawg, I herd you like friendship in your magics so I'm puttin some magic in your friendship so you can friendship while you magic."
>Bam! Congrats for fucking everything up and fixing it, Twilight Sparkle, you're royalty now!

But over-thinking ruins everything, if you let it. At face value, the episode was epic and awesome.
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>>2518991

That would've caused me to mark out like a little girl. I would seriously be too high to care about whatever flaws this episode had if it did happen.
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I just rewatched the episode and coming from the perspective of someone who already knows what's going to happen, it worked wonders. Before, I wasn't sure how I felt about the episode except that I had a general feeling that I liked it yet really suffered from being rushed. especially the alicorn twilight part Now the only thing I'm not sure about is just how much I love it.

While yes, it technically still is horribly rushed, it doesn't feel rushed or at least as rushed.

Also, that Celestia song is the best song in the series and best moment bar none.
>> No. 2518999
>>2518996

Hey, that was exactly what I thought would happen!

But, seeing how Twilight was utterly destroyed by it because of what happened to her friends by her own doing, and not just feeling bad because she messed up a spell, I think it helped prove that she did care about friendship (unlike in CE), which turned out to be what was needed for the alicornification, not the writing magic.


Now I want to see Starswirl as a cranky old hermit to show the contrast.
>> No. 2519000
Okay, It seems that most people's opinion is that the first half was good and the last 10 minutes just felt tacked on.

But after watching it for the second time I think that I have the exact opposite opinion of the episode. The first half is the part that felt rushed.

The last ten minutes was an victorious finale for an epic episode, the problem is not that it were there, but that there wasn't enough episode Before that, only a anti-climactic slough that didn't give enough time to fully explain the cause and impact of the Problem, much less to warrant a feeling of triumph at our hero overcoming it.

Looking back at the episode the second time, I could see all the themes were there "Finding your true destiny" and all that, but there simply wasn't a full explanation of how exactly the two parts were connected.

To me it seems like the fault was in the first part of the episode, not the last. Am I crazy in thinking so?
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>>2519000
>The last ten minutes was an victorious finale for an epic episode, the problem is not that it were there, but that there wasn't enough episode Before that, only a anti-climactic slough that didn't give enough time to fully explain the cause and impact of the Problem, much less to warrant a feeling of triumph at our hero overcoming it.
I think they were trying to go for victorious finale for the entire series, not just the episode.

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>> No. 2519002
>>2519000
I thought it was great up until the 16 minute mark (Twilight's Transformation). I didn't like a lot of the last 5 minutes. Especially the coronation, the bowing, and the parade. It felt more like merchandising than storytelling.
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>>2519000
I accidentally saw the ending first. I thought it seemed like an odd (but bold) start to an episode, and rushing to get going... Then the show ended.

Really it made just as much sense when I'd watched the rest of the ep first (i.e. very little, and still seemed like it should be a START, not an ending).

"EVERYTHING'S FINE TODA- oh wait, wait... Aaaand I fixed it! Now as I was saying... EVERYTHING'S FINE TODAY!" = Whole ep.
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>>2518989
We told you they were relevant!

Though actually it's more like they're overcompensation for the fact that Fluttershy only recently got her own mold. Her recolours had nowhere to go but the series itself!

>>2518980
...Is this the first time we've seen the mane 6's hair on other ponies in the show? Ignoring Rarity-maned-Twilight and Daring Do's Dash hairdo, I mean on background ponies.

>>2518983
Yes. A beautiful bearded princess.

>>2518991
Also yes.
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>>2519002
Well duh, this whole thing was a Hasbro mandate, after all.

"Princess Twilight" is getting WAY more initial merch than Cadence. Lots more toys and toysets, and FOURTEEN WeLoveFine shirts. Good god, Hasbro is merchandising the living fuck out of it. I'd be very, very surprised if this was not a Hasbro mandate.

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>>2519000
> The last ten minutes was an victorious finale for an epic episode, the problem is not that it were there, but that there wasn't enough episode Before that, only a anti-climactic slough that didn't give enough time to fully explain the cause and impact of the Problem, much less to warrant a feeling of triumph at our hero overcoming it.

If you look at it in the terms of this one episode, you are absolutely correct.

If you look at it as the conclusion of a three-year Twilight Sparkle character arc that began in the very first minutes of the very first episode, then it feels like an incredibly triumphant finale of a long, hard, painful journey on which we've seen a character stumble, fall, get frustrated, time parasprite herself, save a couple of countries, explore her inner fears, nearly die a dozen times, but finally come out victorious.

All of those feels with me. Especially Celestia's song when walking down memory lane, showing all the best Twilight moments over the past three years. I could be so lucky that something similar happens to me when I die.

Maybe you have to be a Twilight fan to really get it. But I got it. Or, rather, it got me.
>> No. 2519007
>>2519005
Yeah I get that. I realize that merchandising is ultimately the reason the show ever existed in the first place. If that was all the show was about, I would have probably never started watching, though. They managed to make a great show despite it.

I feel like this is the first time it's really bothered me to the point of detracting my enjoyment of an episode.
>> No. 2519008
>>2519005

Correct me if I'm wrong but WeLoveFine makes its own shirts. I don't think Hasbro has much to do with what they make beyond being the license holder.
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Just watched episode second time. It got better. It didn't felt as rushed as seeing it live. Even for ending they took their time to calm down. It was a great episode, 9/10. With extra 5 minute it could be 10/10 easily.
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>>2519006
This could be the best explaination of the coronation scene I've read yet. I've said it before, but dammit Sai, no one does it better than you. You summed up and put into words all those feels I had during the finale that I could just not express.
>> No. 2519011
>>2519006
Well, I'm not a Twilight fan anymore, and I got the feel.
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>>2518983
>but Starswirl wrote tons of spells

The one spell he never finished was made out to be pretty exceptional in the episode. Finishing THAT spell (and thus proving that he had the understanding necessary to do so) probably would've meant he'd become an alicorn and, subsequently, a princess.

Keep in mind, princess in this universe seems to be less "royalty" and more... well, to borrow the setting of another fantasy series, the Paragons of Dwarven society in Dragon Age.
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I still think Love is in Bloom was a better finale song.
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>>2519006
I get that, but you can't re-watch based on feels alone. There was no story or plot in that part, just watching a ceremony.
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>>2519011

One of us.
One of us!
One of us!!!
ONE OF US!
ONE OF US!!!
Purple... PURPLE EVERYWHERE!
>> No. 2519016
>>2519015
I said used to, I stopped liking Twilight after the elements that made me like her started being downplayed to the point of non-existance.
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>>2519006
I add there this:

>Now the alicorn thing. All I'm going to write here is pure speculation and should threat as such. So far most poster have threated her becoming alicorn as if she's turning to completely different being, getting more power than any other her friends. But maybe we have watched it in wrong way. Why are Celestia and Luna alicorns begin with? I can't remember where I read it, but I remember Faust saying Celestia have horn and wings to represent all pony races in Equestria, earth ponies, pegasus ponies and unicorn ponies. My though is that Twilight turning to alicorn is mostly symbolic, showing that with help of her friends (earth, pegasus and unicorn ponies) she can now achieve any goal. I'm NOT SAYING that she'll become any super-goddess. I'm sure she still need her friends help. Her transform is probably physical mark of her becoming one with her friends, ending one of her story arc. She's not anymore learning to be a good friend, she is now a "True, True Friend". And BEFORE YOU REPLY, I'm not saying this had to happens. I still think they could and probably should kept Twilight unicorn and than alicorn Twilight is Hasbro mandate, and this is just my idea of how this transformation can be justified in story lines and reasons.
>> No. 2519018
I don't know but... for me the last episode of S4 was just completely horrible. It was rushed all the time, way too much songs and it's like they just completely destroyed all the characters. Alltogether it was a 20 minute long commercial, with no depth or character development. I'm sure that most bronies will leave the fandom.

I think one of the major problems is they didn't had the time and had to finish this in a "great" way. But that's just a bad excuse for me, they just took material for 4 episodes and pressed it somehow in 1 single episode. It was just a mess.
>> No. 2519019
>>2519018

Must resist making joke about typo.......
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>>2519018

Good idea. Better get ahead of the game and start complaining about the S4 finale just in case.
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>>2519016
Which were those? The social awkwardness? That was eliminated before S1 was out. The neurotic tendencies? Those weren't introduced until S2, really.

As I said in /p/AD, there has been a Twilight for all seasons, and I liked the first two, while disliking the third, "transitional" Twilight. I can only pray that I like the fourth, more regal incarnation of Twilight. I would suggest you do the same, otherwise the only option is to declare it bad before you see it.
>> No. 2519022
>>2519018

ahem... I meant "S3"....
>> No. 2519023
I've been reading a lot about S4, but mostly on /mlp/

I felt this ep as series finale, rather than season finale. Since it finish an arc, as pointed by >>2519006

With the coming of a new spin off of MLP (with human characters) Do you really believe that this was just the end of season and not series finale?

>No official Staff has stood up to confirm S4
>S4 may be codename for new series (spin off)
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>>2518987
>why is her worst fear not passing a test, not something like this where her friends' lives are ruined because of her, or she loses her friendships, etc.?
Probably for the same reason her worst fear isn't her turning to evil, torturing her friends to dead: She have never though about it. In The Return of Harmony she learned that friendship isn't something you can just lose, because of their strong bond. On other hand, failing a test is something she have clearly though a lot over different episodes.
>> No. 2519025
>>2519023

Sweet Celestia! Don't go around spreading those rumors!
Don't you know what these people DO with technicalities?!
>> No. 2519026
>>2519023
Don't even entertain that possibility, first, because it's bullshit, second, because it ain't happening.
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>>2519014
Well, the ceremony was just a thing that happened. But everything up to the ceremony (especially the Celestia / Twi part) and the final song are still rewatchable.

>>2519017
Basically how I see it. We'll have to wait to see how they use it.

>>2519023
I think we're all just so shell-shocked from other shows that refuse to do anything decisive and final regarding their characters that we're afraid that this is the end. But every sign is that it's not. Season 4 will keep things rolling. Hasbro sure hopes so too; they're already paying for it, after all!

But, yeah. Just a really strong season finale. Everything will be fine.
>> No. 2519028
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>>2519023
Daniel Ingram has put on his credentials that he's worked on 91 episodes for this show, meaning there's an additional 26 episodes coming. Rogers has confirmed that she's returning, and it's to write for ponies.
>> No. 2519029
>>2519027
Celestia/Twi re watchable? I could see that scene forever!
>> No. 2519030
>>2519025
I mean, it's not a rumor but it's a theory I have. And to be fair I don't see how writers will continue with the new status quo. Lots of theories like "last ep was a dream and such" are floating on /mlp/ but being /mlp/ it's hard to discuss anything there.

>>2519027
Well, how long do we have wait until we get some confirmation of S4 of MLP:FiM (not the human spin off)

>>2519028
I've been looking for that PDF, but it was taken down from his official page, I don't know what to think
>> No. 2519031
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2519031
BTW, did anyone else notice a certain unicorn mugging for the camera in the background?
>> No. 2519032
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>>2519031
Just like she did in Episode one?
>> No. 2519033
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>>2519032
And in SSCS6K.
>> No. 2519034
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>>2519031
>> No. 2519035
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2519035
wow, I am just... wow.

I hated this episode. It seems like they have taken everything that made this show worthwhile and threw it out the window.

I need a drink.
>> No. 2519036
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>>2519030
Officially? I'm not sure. I never really tracked that stuff. But there's enough unofficial confirmations from staff members and financial records to leave a good paper trail. A lot of storyline-based rumors aren't accurate, but I gotta admit the ones that are proven when you follow the money (like season 3 having only 13 episodes) seem pretty ironclad.
>> No. 2519037
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>>2519035

Nice one!
You are funny~
... Right?
>> No. 2519038
>>2519036
Well, I'll take unofficial from staff members. Any source I can check? Just to keep my sanity
>> No. 2519039
So many good feels achieved from viewing this episode!

Liquid pride was shed, something an animated show rarely does to me.

I give it 10/10, Celestia's song knocked it outta the park! I hope we hear more from her (and her sister) next season!
>> No. 2519040
>>2519030
I don't think AKR would have said pony if she was talking about Equestria Girls.

>>2519032
There were a whole bunch of callbacks to Eps 1&2.
>> No. 2519041
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2519041
>>2519031

More happy Lyra!
>> No. 2519042
>>2519040
>AKR
>Equestria Girls
You got me lost there...
>> No. 2519043
so many songs.
so much liquid pride.
so much friendship.
beautiful.

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 12:43

>> No. 2519044
>>2519030
I think he just took the 91 episodes thing down because it was technically confirming something he isn't necessarily allowed to confirm. I doubt there's anything more to that.
>> No. 2519045
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>>2519038
Ehhh, I'm a forum guy myself... people bring the news to me.


HEY, the rest of you sods! Help a couple of guys out here! Anyone have links or screencaps of good, solid, ponified season 4 hints and information?
>> No. 2519046
>>2519042
AKR- Amy Keating Rogers, writer on S1&2, coming back for 4.

Equestria Girls- The human thing.
>> No. 2519047
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>>2519045
Well alicorn Twilight doesn't seem like it'd naturally lead into everyone turning into humans.
>> No. 2519048
>>2519045
Well, I can list some

Meghan said that the only meghan in s4 weeks be her (probably to debunk the humans in s4 theory) she also said that this finale was part one of a three parter.

Amy Keating Rogers is back along with Corey powell.

Charlotte Fullerton is back but only co-writing one episode.

And some more people could probably have
>> No. 2519049
>>2519045
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/02/mlp-spin-off-series-confirmed-rumor.html for Equestria Girls not being S4.

http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/02/season-finale-has-bit-of-continuity.html pretty much confirms some kind of S4.
>> No. 2519050
>>2519046
Ok, now everything start sounding more solid for S4, which puts me at ease for the hiatus.

>>2519047
>I just lost my shit

>>2519049
>EQD
*Sighs* H-here I go...
>> No. 2519051
>>2519041

Lyra can stand on two legs. Lyra confirmed for the star of Equestria Girls.
>> No. 2519052
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>>2519051
>> No. 2519053
Someone please tell me what this "liquid pride" thing is? Iit has something to do with the finale, but I've watched the episode only once and won't rewatch it until tomorrow.
>> No. 2519054
>>2519053
Shining Armor said he wasn't crying tears, but liquid pride.
>> No. 2519055
>>2519053

Shiny Pants starts crying when his sister becomes Princess Sparklebutt, he says he's not crying it's just liquid pride.
>> No. 2519056
>>2519053
At the end, Twilight asks his brother if he's crying, he says it's just "Liquid pride".
Seriously, say whatever you want about Shining Armor as a character, he has some pretty cute interaction with his sister.

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 12:45

>> No. 2519057
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>>2519053
Shining Armor was asked what that fluid was leaking out of him was. He insisted it wasn't tears, but Semen the hot blooded essence of a man's soul liquid courage.
>> No. 2519058
>>2519053

Shining Armor started crying but it was actually liquid pride coming out of his eyes.
>> No. 2519059
>>2519057
*pride
>> No. 2519060
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>>2519053

Shining Armor was crying during the coronation; Twilicorn calls him out on it; he claims it's liquid pride, and that there's a difference.

Unrelated fun fact: Hundreds of years ago, crying was considered manly because it meant you cared strongly about something.
>> No. 2519061
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>>2519053

Shining Armor was crying during the coronation; Twilicorn calls him out on it; he claims it's liquid pride, and that there's a difference.

Unrelated fun fact: Hundreds of years ago, crying was considered manly because it meant you cared strongly about something.
>> No. 2519062
>>2519054
>>2519055
>>2519056
>>2519057
>>2519058
Got it.
>> No. 2519063
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>>2519059
No, he was literally excreting alcohol from his tear ducts.
>> No. 2519064
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>>2519055
>>2519056
>>2519057
>>2519058
>>2519060

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 12:49

>> No. 2519065
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>>2519064

There can be only one.
>> No. 2519066
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>>2519064

But you didn't include a fun fact so it doesn't count.
>> No. 2519067
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>>2519065
>> No. 2519068
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2519068
>>2518821
...You do realize people were doomsaying because they are worried about a show they are completely bonkers about, right?
Anyone doomsaying just wants someone to reply saying everything will be fine
But it's good to know the bronies are the same old friendly bunch they used to be 2 years ago.
Pic unrelated, I just like it.
>> No. 2519069
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>>2519064

BTW Marimo, It worked!!!!!
>> No. 2519070
Am I only pony who thinks this episode had best animation so far in this series?
>> No. 2519071
>>2519063
Getting drunk on Shining Armor's tears?
>> No. 2519072
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>>2519070
I can't make that decision until I watch the iTunes HD download tomorrow.
>> No. 2519073
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>>2519068
> ...You do realize people were doomsaying because they are worried about a show they are completely bonkers about, right?

I see some of that, really. But I also see a lot of people that are finding themselves in the awful position of liking the past of the show but pretty much loathing the present, and struggling futile against change that they can't control, influence, or stop.

Worry and concern are normal, but it seems to quickly degenerate into loathing.
>> No. 2519074
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2519074
Where are the shitstorms?
>> No. 2519075
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2519075
Heh
>> No. 2519076
>>2519074

Try over at 4chins maybe? I'm sure the internet hate machine can russle up some russling.
>> No. 2519077
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>>2519069
What worked?
>> No. 2519078
>>2519077
Wait, never mind. You're talking about Dərpy appearing again after posting as her, aren't you?
>> No. 2519079
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>>2519075
Hated that scene to no end
Along with that retard waiter dancing along
>> No. 2519080
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>>2519074
Surprisingly, there have really been no shit storms because of this episode. Or at least none to the extent I was prepared for. I really thought we'd be fighting a war right now, but the show was done very well and most people liked it.
>> No. 2519081
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>>2519074
Nowhere, at least not in this thread. I guess we seem to be quite civilized today. Besides, we've known about this for a long time now. Nothing really surprising happened.
>> No. 2519082
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>>2519078

Yesh~~~ :3
>> No. 2519083
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>>2519074
>>2519080
>>2519081

We lost anyone who cared over S2 and the summer, and anyone who's left who still gives a damn is just tired of it all by now.
And I'm not a fighter, myself; you'll never see me shitstorming, however strong my opinions may be...
>> No. 2519084
Too rushed, plot lasted half the episode, needed 21 more minutes, and songs were mediocre this time round.

Still, considering Alicorn Twilight, it could have been MUCH worse. Least we got a song from Celestia and FREAKING DJPON3 and DƎRPY.

Finally, a long break from ponies for the fandom.
>> No. 2519085
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2519085
Now that I'm thinking clearly, I have an actual review:

I like this episode, I really do. BUT 2 things
1. After the conflict is resolved, 13 minutes in. It just turns into Twilight getting jacked off,As sensual as that thought is
2. The music REALLY takes away from everything else. Add to that how BIG an event like coronation is, you've got yourself a criminally compressed plot.
But when it DOES become "jerking Twilight off" it's done pretty well, especially topping it off with the "It'll all be okay"

7.5 - 8/10
It's good, but trying to please so many people may have hindered it. As bad as it sounds, it's pretty weak compared to other finales.
>> No. 2519086
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>>2519083
Or you know, maybe the episode was done well and people realized that they never should have gotten so worked up over it in the first place...

Also

>implying everyone who cares left~
>> No. 2519087
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>>2519083
... he needed to, man. It was destroying him.
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>> No. 2519089
>>2519083
>you'll never see me shitstorming
>blatantlies.jpg
>> No. 2519090
I'm fine with the whole twi alcorn thing but the whole season felt rushed. I mean the seasons episodes were cut in half. Yes the first couple of episodes were awesome but after the apple family reunion the episodes could have been improved in one way or another. For example keep calm and flutter on should have a second part. But I digress the season finale felt like someone was trying to force a fist of sugar down my throught. Their were 7 songs in 27 minutes leaving no time to for plot or suspense or anything to build. But if twilight isn't in a dress all the time and she doesn't have to be in canterlot 24/7 I'm excited to see were this goes.

PS: wonder what discord is gonna do with his new friend fluttershy :)
>> No. 2519091
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2519091
The beginning of the episode was an interesting premise; Seeing different ponies swap their destinies was neat idea, and I wish they'd done more with that.

the song at the beginning was also good. Fact is, this entire episode should have been just about the destiny swap, and just focused on them as friends, without the alicorn stuff tacked on; The problem of the plot was more important than the second half.



As for the second half: Damnit, it really grates me. We basically have celestia say "You embody ALL of your friends elements just as much as them, and your also magical, you are a princess, now lets all bow before you".

I just feel this utterly snubs the others in order to focus on twilight. Now, I've heard they thought this was the end of the series, okay, so if that's true they wanted to wrap twilight up with a bang. but I really just disliked it as much as I was thinking about it.


Either way, I'll see you all when the next comic comes out in a couple weeks, i think i'm going to take a break till then.
>> No. 2519092
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>>2519091

See you later Unlikeable, and have a good life until then.
>> No. 2519093
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>>2519090
> For example keep calm and flutter on should have a second part.

Wooow no. If there was one thing I got out of that, it was that Discord's sthick wasn't nearly as entertaining the second time around. One episode was quite all right, thank you. None would have also been okay.
>> No. 2519094
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>>2519091
See ya then
>> No. 2519095
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2519095
I'm not ready to wait 10 months
>> No. 2519096
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>>2519090

>wonder what discord is gonna do with his new friend fluttershy
>> No. 2519097
>>2519093
A better example would be
>The Crystal Empire should've had a third part.
>> No. 2519098
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>>2519091
Later Unlikable!

Not really surprised you didn't like the second half, but I hope it wasn't the complete shit-burger you thought it was going to be.
>> No. 2519099
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I think the show needs to just stick with simple slice of life stories. Dunno about anyone else, but these recent super-plots (season 2 closing, season 3 opening and closing) have left a bad taste in my mouth.
>> No. 2519100
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>>2519097

Indeedy
>> No. 2519101
>>2519095
I may actually kill someone, because this is stressing me right the fuck out.
>> No. 2519102
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>>2519099
I've never liked the two part episodes. The only finale and closer that I really liked were RoH and BNE.
>> No. 2519103
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>>2519099

I like it the way it be
>> No. 2519104
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>>2519099
>Not loving action
If I want a slice of Life, I'll take my skinny flank outside.

I'm all for Action with Horses.
>> No. 2519105
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>>2519097
But nobody liked the first two parts! They didn't like Sombra, they didn't like the mane 6 standing around, they didn't like Shining or Cadence or the Twilight focus or any of that. How would making the story longer be an improvement when the complaints about what we saw weren't that they were rushed, but just that they were bad?

>>2519099
I disagree completely. Half of season 1 bored me to tears. It worked then from a "we don't even know these characters" perspective, but they're pretty boring to rewatch. And look how little interest there has been in the second half of season 3, despite that being nearly 100% slice-of-life.
>> No. 2519106
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>>2519105

I wanted to see Sombra do more and have the fight with him last longer. Maybe have Twilight go through more traps to get the heart than just staircases. Go fucking Daring Do on that shit.
>> No. 2519107
>>2519105
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Who's this nobody? Sombra was my favorite Villain.
>But nobody liked the first two parts! They didn't like Sombra, they didn't like the mane 6 standing around, they didn't like Shining or Cadence or the Twilight focus or any of that. How would making the story longer be an improvement when the complaints about what we saw weren't that they were rushed, but just that they were bad?
Now you're just treating opinion as fact.
>> No. 2519108
>>2519099
>>2519105
I can say with 100% certainty that I don't envy writers job.

>But nobody liked the first two parts!
Shut up! Those episodes are my favorite episodes in whole series!
>> No. 2519109
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>>2519107

Sombra is the only real villain this show has ever had.

>>2519105

Agreed on S1, some of those episodes didn't age well, remember when everyone praised AJ and her Applebuck Season? Damn, that makes me feel old.
>> No. 2519110
>>2519109
Well, NMM too. It's in Discord's nature and Chrys was just feeding her kids.
>> No. 2519111
>>2519110
Nightmare Moon just wanted that ponies admire her beautiful night. Nothing more was given to us.
>> No. 2519112
>>2519105

Dee loved the first two parts.
>> No. 2519113
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>>2519105
Well then, it appears that we may be polar opposites in terms of episode preference...

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 13:45

>> No. 2519114
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>>2518973
>the whole episode was so overwhelmingly on the assault of being epic that I imagine most detractors are in a state of shock right now

No, I'm so depressed and repelled that I can hardly summon up the minimal interest in this show needed to type this.

Remember "The End of the Creator-Driven Era in TV Animation"? Amidi nailed it. He was just three years ahead of his time.

Maybe I'll start a new thread on that idea after I've seen this episode again to make sure there isn't something redeeming about it that I missed the first time.
>> No. 2519115
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>>2519091

Noo.


I was hoping so badly you wouldn't be put off by it that much. I mean, I knew you would be, I know I was as well, but I was really hoping you would find some reason, some little thing that stuck out, that would persuade you to stay. What you would've seen I don't know, I guess it was blind hope.

I'm not going to try and persuade you to stay because I wouldn't want you to be miserable and I know how difficult it is to make a good argument to keep doing something you dislike -- nobody was able to convince me this episode would be fine -- but it's still sad to know you'll only come by every two weeks.



I thank you so much for being here, without you and your kind treatment of me when I started going beyond lurking and started posting as a sappy anon worried about not treading where I shouldn't, I might not have gained the confidence to get myself a name and trip. I still attribute my decision in doing so on my initial experiences with the board, the ones with you and Dulset (not necessarily you two together, both of you individually) the most impacting. You leaving the show will be a great loss to the board, and I can only be grateful the comics are good enough to keep you around part-time.


We'll see you when the next comic comes out, I suppose. Good luck with all future endeavors in the meantime.
>> No. 2519117
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>>2519110

No, not NMM.
She was defeated by the Mane 6 when they were still newbies, speaks a lot of her "power"
>> No. 2519118
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>>2519117
One does not need to be powerful to be a villain, just evil.
>> No. 2519119
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>>2519118

If even that.
>> No. 2519120
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>>2519118

Unless you bark a lot and get your flank handed to you by a group of unexperienced heroes that just got together.
>> No. 2519121
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>>2519114
Yeah, that's pretty much what I was expecting the shock to feel like.

The episode was an ultimatum, really. Twilight Sparkle was heading this way all along regardless of what Faust had to say on the matter. Every act supported this idea. Whether or not it was a Hasbro mandate was made completely irrelevant. It was weaved into canon seamlessly enough it might as well have been there all along. If you squint really hard, you might able to see the stitching, but you'd have a hard time convincing the person next to you it was there.

Granted, it was the most upbeat, optimistic ultimatum I've ever seen. It was a musical. A musical with three or four Dərpy sightings after a long drought. If this was bad-tasting medicine for some, you couldn't have asked for more sugar to be added.

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 14:03

>> No. 2519122
It probably could have been worse. 2/10.
>> No. 2519123
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>>2519118
Or just look scary.
>> No. 2519124
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>>2519121

Plus Vinyl appearance.
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>>2517907
Watching this right now. Pic related, it's mine countenance whereupon only 6 minutes in
>Season 3 episode
>it's actually good
>like, actually really good
I'm not even joking. I thought it was all over after Season 2, but this episode blows A Canterlot Wedding out of the water. The animation during the songs, referencing past episodes in a non-ironic/forced way, everything. THIS is how a season finale should be done.
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Final song: STOP BEING AFRAID OF PRINCESS TWILIGHT! STOP IT! STOP IT RIGHT NOW! EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE FINE! STOP BEING AFRAID OF PRINCESS TWILIGHT!
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>>2519125

Hope you enjoy it
>> No. 2519128
>>2519118
No, you need to be FUCKING COMPETENT.
Seriously, it ASTOUND ME that anybody would think that NMM was a good villain.
She was your generic "MWAHAHA I'M EVIL" villain, only also completely incompetent to boot, why the fuck didn't she just KILL the Mane 6 instead of playing grab-flank in the Everfree Forest? YOU'RE A DEMIGOD, THEY'RE SIX NORMAL PONIES, ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS DISABLE ONE OF THEM AND YOU WIN.
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>>2519128
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>>2519128
She wasn't a competent villain, but saying that she wasn't one is not true at all.
>> No. 2519131
>>2519128

Technically her first two plans were to kill them, with a pony eating manticore and dropping them off a cliff.
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>>2519127
Okay, watched the rest. Sadly it does kind of fall apart after Twilight goes Allicorn, but overall it seemed a lot more sincere than Season 2's finale. It was like a nice recollection/tribute episode for all the Season 1 and 2 veterans, which is a nice change of pace. I like that it took itself seriously but without going too far. I really do think the animation and music took a step up this episode, too.

The sad part is that this is the episode people will remember for being a toy copout, even though ACW did the same thing and in my opinion was a lot worse with it.
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Reposting because not sure if my arch-nemesis saw it the first time, and he said he wanted to see it.

Okay, so uh...finale. Yeah.

I can't help but feel that a lot of it went by rather quickly, due to everything being a song. The episode started and then was over before I knew it.

The fact that there were like ten fuckin' songs kinda took away from each one's specialness, IMO. I only found a couple of them to be kinda good, the rest just weren't my thing.

Now on the subject of Alicorn Twilight...WHAT THE HAY, they left it so open! I know they're limited to 22 minutes, but it was just like "HEY EVERYPONY TWILIGHT IS A PRINCESS NOW!" *credits*. The question of "How will the show continue" is left completely un-answered. Didn't say whether she'd be staying in Ponyville or Canterlot, didn't say what she'd be doing as a princess, or what if it was going to affect her friends...nothing. Unless you want to take Celestia's words literally; in that case S4 will be a clone of S1 but with "princess lessons" or some crap, possibly shoehorning Twilight into every episode again.

And I'm still left with the fact that Twilight is now a super-duper-special-Alicorn-princess and her friends are still just her friends. I suppose this is a personal issue, but the show suddenly promoting one of the friends way high above the others makes Twilight stick out in an awkward way to me. Hell, like others said, her friends and even the other princesses BOWED to her. You honestly cannot say her status has not changed/will not change.

I feel like they've kinda written themselves into a corner, at least, for me. If they have the other characters ignore Twilight's new status for the most part, then it'll feel even more awkward than having everyone ignore their EoH/world-savers status. And if everyone is always bowing to Twilight all the time, that won't be very good (For me) either, because I don't like the idea of a show about "friendship" promoting one character to a god and making everyone worship her.

Oh well, time to ride out the 7+ month wait to see if the show is destroyed or not.

Overall, pretty good episode, 8.5/10. Not as good as S3's best, but definitely better than the "meh" episodes of the 2nd half of S3.
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>>2519133
>And I'm still left with the fact that Twilight is now a super-duper-special-Alicorn-princess and her friends are still just her friends. I suppose this is a personal issue, but the show suddenly promoting one of the friends way high above the others makes Twilight stick out in an awkward way to me. Hell, like others said, her friends and even the other princesses BOWED to her. You honestly cannot say her status has not changed/will not change.

Yeah... that's probably my biggest issue with it (well, fear I guess, as I haven't actually watched it yet).

But hey it's a "3 parter" so I guess we'll see what happens... eventually.
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>>2519134

The status changed, the pony who hold the status has not changed from within, because she did outside.

Have Faith.
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>>2519133
>>2519133
No I did not see this earlier, and I'm glad you reposted it cause at this point I'm just periodically checking the last 50 posts.

>WHAT THE HAY, they left it so open! I know they're limited to 22 minutes, but it was just like "HEY EVERYPONY TWILIGHT IS A PRINCESS NOW!" *credits*.

It was left open, but remember that McCarthy herself said that this is the first of what she considers a three part episode. We just have to wait a few months to see exactly where this takes us, but I for one am positive going in. I'm going to take Twilight's message to heart: Everything is going to be just fine.

>And I'm still left with the fact that Twilight is now a super-duper-special-Alicorn-princess and her friends are still just her friends

But Twilight heself said she could not have done it without them. She even brought them out onto the balcony before the crowd at her coronation. That scene alone did so much to put to rest any fears that the firenship dynamic would change (I know my level of apprehension was lower than yours). And then the whole procession through the streets of Canterlot, with her friends by her side. I mean they did so much to reassure us that this is a show about friendship, and not soley about raising Twilight above the others.

>Hell, like others said, her friends and even the other princesses BOWED to her

Yeah the bow... While I personally had no problem with it, I said to myself right away "that's gonna piss some people off". But I'm just gonna look at it as a one time thing, that her friends are recognizing her achievement. I doubt that we'll see Celestia bow to Twilight ever again. The others, maybe once or twice in specific settings (ie. formal occasions). Like I said, I didn't mind it this time, but if it becomes a recurring thing then it may even put me off.

>I feel like they've kinda written themselves into a corner, at least, for me

Well, we won't find that out until S4. I'm personally very excited to see where exactly we're headed to.

>Overall, pretty good episode, 8.5/10. Not as good as S3's best, but definitely better than the "meh" episodes of the 2nd half of S3.

I'm glad you enjoyed it. Hopefully you enjoy the things to come just as much.
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>>2519136
>Yeah the bow... While I personally had no problem with it, I said to myself right away "that's gonna piss some people off"

Of course it is. A pony can't move two inches without someone getting pissed off at this damn show.
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After watching the episode three times, taking notes on the last time for this express purpose I wasn't sure I wanted to write this anymore. I feel... content. The series finale has aired. Twilicorn was known beforehand and I don't have the strength or will to riot over it anymore. Despite how the episode breaks things left and right, I'm tired but content. Now it is clear the show will become something else with this, and I have my closure and can kiss the show goodbye. The ride has been fun, but I guess the ride has to end sometime.

That being said, I wanted to write something about the episode in the end. If for no other reason than me getting my peace. Without further ado, it's time for the last hurrah.

* Such a grand opening... Anyone else find themselves reminded of the very beginning of the Heart Carol?
* How come this day is so special Twi wants to sing about it?
* "My Ponyville?" You're not a princess yet, darling~
* Dancing on tables totally acceptable.
* First song, Morning in Ponyville: OK, but there were some weird choices, imo. Also kind of a weird way to start an episode. Not my favourite of the bunch, but okay.
* Weather control is apparently not a pegasus-only thing, after all! Excuse me?
* Is nopony else working on the weather?
* Animal chaos! Also, Harry in the house!
* What's Scratch doing in Ponyville?
* Heh, Pinkamena returns. She looks a lot cuter with her hair down.
* Ponies get sunburn --> coats turn red? Do they lose all their hair or does it shine through all that or something?
* Second song, What My Cutie Mark Is Telling Me: Better. A lot better. Parts of it sound like just speaking over music, though, not singing, especially Pinkie and AJ. That said, I really like the way the part with "it's got to be my destiny, and it's what my cutie mark is telling me" goes. I also like how the part that gives Rarity vibes is actually AJ's part and the one with AJ vibes is Pinkie's, for obvious reasons. A good song despite parts of it being spoken rather than sung.
* Seven hour bubblebaths, huh. Oh Spike... Must be fun being a dragon and being able to just warm the water again and again...
* Elements randomly activating >.>
* Huh... So, she changed the Elements, which changed the cutie marks of the Bearers? I guess my theory about their cutie marks representing their Elements isn't too farfetched, huh?
* Twi confirmed for having used a memory spell in RoH to return them to normal. If we only knew what kind of spell that was, now...
* "Their true selves have been altered." I really don't like this. There are things magic shouldn't be able to do.
* Twi got real sad for fucking up her friends. I do like that.
* Either there was a time skip so everything's fucked up, all of reality has been rewritten so things are in shambles or something completely different?
* Third song, I've Got to Find a Way: It's different. Starts out strong, could be more than it is. Not that bad, though.
* Spike is the one to cheer Twi up and gets her to act.
* That picture! It's actually a thing! That makes me more happy than it should!
* Suddenly Twi shines and gets sparkles in her eyes. Also, how come there were six little sparks around the big star? Doesn't Twi's mark have just five? What's this mean?
* I have absolutely no idea how Twi came up with that idea...
* Silver bits! The first I remember seeing them, at least.
* "I don't really know anything about animals..." Oh Fluttershy, let me hug you :3
* Animals want to eat RD... wat
* Flutters rediscovering her talent does feel good.
* >tfw you will never hold Fluttershy in your (bear) arms and gently kiss her forehead
* Life flashing in her eyes. Such a good way to show she is getting her memories back, and also give me something to do sometime trying to identify the scenes.
* Everyone instantly gets the plan. Clearly they still remember what happened when they were changed.
* "Pinkie!!!"
* Why is everypony singing with them?
* Fourth song, A True, True Friend: Best song of the episode. It's good, it's catchy, it drives the plot forward. Yeah, it's repetitive, though, and the lyrics aren't that imaginative, I guess, but it's good. I like how some characters still have their distinct styles in the song, and this time they are used with the appropriate characters, unlike in that earlier one. I also like how they join the song one after another. It kind of builds momentum and gains power as it goes on. This would have been an awesome song to end the episode on. Shame that didn't happen. Wouldn't call this the next Winter Wrap Up, but it is catchy.
* 13 minute mark, the conflict has been resolved already and the song that would have been a great thing to end on is already done. Sigh...
* Suddenly Twilight realizes out of nowhere!
* Happy Pinkie bounce!
* Twi blew up! Show's over, it's done! Also, i like the reactions.
* "Congratulations, Twilight. You've made it to the Twilight Zone." What the heck was that place, though?
* Scenes from earlier episodes. I guess it's supposed to show how Twi has grown. It kind of does that, yeah.
* Celestia lookes a bit weird when she rose in the air with her forelegs spread out...
* Fifth song, Celestia's Ballad: Okay. Not bad, but different. Not very catchy, but kinda pretty. Forgettable.
* The word alicorn canonized to mean winged unicorns without a doubt. Also wings... Twi was kinda surprised about them, too.
* Everything stops for a Pinkie gag... Twice. Not good, not at all. The spittake would have been funny in the background, but not with it being focused on.
* "Charity, Compassion, Devotion, Integrity, Optimism and Leadership" Elements of princesshood?
* "We are all your students now" and everyone bows... Not a fan of this. Not at all.
* New dresses! I absolutely love Fluttershy's new dress!
* Sixth song, Behold, Princess Twilight Sparkle: No. I guess it technically isn't a song, but I didn't like it.
* Twi gives credit to her friends. Good job, Twi.
* Liquid pride
* Seventh song, Life in Equestria: Not a fan. More of the same as the first song but I didn't like this as much, and I didn't really like the first one that much, either.
* Dərpy! Cloudchaser and Flitter! No Rose in all of season 3...
* Twi already flies like a pro, huh?

And that's the episode, there. The episode itself wasn't terribad, but the way it messed with things makes it bad in my opinion. It had too many songs and some were cut short because of this. They could have easily cut some of them, but I guess the point was to make this kind of a musical episode, or something. I feel it would have worked better with some other episode, as there was already a lot to fit into this one.

Continued in the next post.
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The cutie mark switching thing I've already talked about, so I'll let that be. Ignoring the fact that I don't believe switching them like that should be possible, I believe you could have easily filled an entire 22 minute episode with just that. As it was, it started with things already having happened, and was ran through using two musical montages, which were pretty good, though. It would have been interesting to see how they dealt with their wrong talents and how others reacted to it. A slower pace there would have done wonders and might have been one of the best episodes of the show, even if I would disagree with the premise. Seeing them all rediscover their talents like Fluttershy did would have been great! But alas, it wasn't meant to be.

The whole cutie mark switching thing leaves a lot of questions unanswered, too. Did Twi mindfuck every single pony so they thought the other 5 were doing what they were supposed to do, or why the heck didn't the Apple family do something about Pinkie or the weather team about Rarity? If Twi indeed mindfucked everyone, why weren't Spike and Twi affected? Seems to be one of those things you just have to ignore, huh? Also, how much time passed between Twi switching them up and the time we were shown? All the apple trees were leafless and fruitless, but in time for the next group song there were apples and leaves again. What happened? Another one of those things, eh?

Twilight becoming and alicorn was handled quite poorly, in my opinion. It was pretty much thrown at the end of some other episode and just happened. Celestia says Twilight showed all the necessary qualities to be a princess, but I don't see why the other 5 don't. Is it because Twilight wrote new magic? Can only unicorns become alicorns? What's the deal with Cadence? This could have used another episode for itself just so they could take it slower and maybe explain some things. Maybe they will explain this in the future, who knows. What I know is that I feel they should have explained things now, at least something. Can Celestia just make others alicorns just like that?

This being a musically heavy episode is one more thing. Songs take time. They are good for montages so you can speed through some things fast, as was done here. However, just those don't really work. I would have liked to see an actual musical episode with a story that isn't that important, and have the songs be the main focus. The music in general was pretty good, though.

The characterizations were okay, I think. The characters were supposed to be different due to the spell. After that, I find it weird no-one blamed Twi for messing things up in the first place, I think at least RD or AJ would have mentioned something. And the way everyone worshipped Twi in the end was weird to me. Of course they love her, she's their friend, but it did feel a bit excessive. Of course, Pinkie is her separate thing. She wasn't okay. In fact, she is a joke. I did read some parts of the threads and I agree, the reason Pinkie feels off is that her jokes are being focused on. If they happened in the background they would be a lot better, but focusing on them with a "funny tune" playing isn't really good. It's annoying, and I feel bad Pinkie has had to suffer from this.

Now then, what does this all mean for the future of the series? Twilight's friendship lessons are over. Twilight is now a princess of Equestria, and recognized as such. This limits the type of episode ideas that can be done, while also opening a lot of other types. I'm certain this will bring change. This change might be good, it might not, but if it is anything along the lines of what has been happening ever since season 2 started I probably won't like it. You others who seem to like the newer season more will probably be happy about the changes while those of us who preferred the first season will grow fewer in number all the time. I guess that's just how things go.

As I said at first, I feel content. The whole season I've felt kinda bad about the direction the show has been taking but I have kept on hoping it will turn out fine. With this, I can be sure it won't be the show I grew to love and I can give up. This was the series finale for me.

My time on /arch/ helped change my enjoyment of the series from that of a casual fan to that of a devoted, critical viewer. Some might say this is a bad thing, and it has made me enjoy some episodes a lot less because I can't unsee the contradictions and other such things that ruin some episodes for me. Had I stayed as someone that was just happy to see ponies, well, who knows. I believe this change was good for me, even if it has made me a bit unhappier. I did enjoy the time I spent here, even if I ended up mostly just lurking in the end. So long, and thanks for all the ponies!



Oh... I'm forgetting something, aren't I? The episode, on a scale from 4 to 10, gets a 9 for enjoyability when ignoring all the things like the cutie marks and the Twilicorn part, and a 5 with those accounted for.
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Just dropping in to say that I can't stop listening to Celestia's song.
It's so beautiful
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>>2519136
>It was left open, but remember that McCarthy herself said that this is the first of what she considers a three part episode.

That's kind of a dick move, then, leaving us on an 8-month cliffhanger. They couldn't even add a slight mention of what Twilight will do as a princess?

>But Twilight heself said she could not have done it without them.

Yes, yes, you can say "She couldn't have done it without her friends" all you want; that doesn't change the fact that she's now an alicorn monarch and they're not. She's still superior to them in two major ways.
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>>2519138
>The series finale has aired

You DO know they're making a season 4, right?
>> No. 2519143
what's the name of the song when Twilight is moping about what she did at the beggining?
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>>2519142
Yes, but in his mind the series is effectively over, and anything that comes after is just icing on the cake that is already finished baking.

I think.
>> No. 2519145
>>2519142
The series with Twilight and her 5 friends who were as important learning about friendship and life has ended. It probably ended a while ago, already, but this seals the deal. Whatever comes next is different, and new, and as said, probably not the show I grew to love.

>>2519144
Pretty much this, though not exactly.
>> No. 2519146
Youtube embed play button
  >>2519143
I've got to find a way
>> No. 2519147
>>2519146
Thanks
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>>2519145

Okay, I understand that. But apparently not even this arc is over.
Meghan Mccarthy considers this the first part of a three parter.
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>>2519138
>>2519139

Yes~
Now I can finally PvP in peace.
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Although I just found this.
...Sigh... It's never going to end, is it?
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>>2519150
That's hilarious.
>> No. 2519152
>>2519151
Yep, everybody loves to bring the Solar Worshiper down...
>> No. 2519153
Oh snap, it's out?! Well, here goes nothing, i will return to discuss the episode when i've finished it.
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Well it's been fun gang but it looks like this is it. This is Hasbro's calling card that it has taken total control over the show in Faust's absence.

So, fuck this episode. Fuck season 4. I'm out.

I wash my hands of this weirdness.
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>>2519154
Goodbye!
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>>2519154
Good riddance.
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>>2519154

The further we move from Faust's ideas for FiM, the more I'm loving this show.
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>>2519091
It's basically Red Ranger syndrome: The leader of the group gets too much screen time and potential, thus becomes 'better' than the rest of the team based cast. She dosen't even need her friends anymore, and will sure as hell outlive them all. We kinda lost what made Twilight likable due to this whole princess thing.

I know they suspected it would end after season three, but how will they keep working with this? Retcon it to status quo? What about everyone else's dreams and hopes? Will the next season focus on Spike or Rainbow Dash? They kinda wrote themselves into a corner with Twilight. It'll be akward as heck in later episodes when Twilight, who is basically the new god that can fix anything, just swoops down and chats with Applejack. "Oh is that barn broken? Lemme fix it with my god magic!"

So unless they change it, they can't do much with her anymore without losing a lot of the conflict that normally comes with the episodes.
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>>2519150
I always knew there was a reason I liked that princess more than the other 2 3. The best princess will always be Trollestia.
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>>2519158

Xiaolin Showdown had the same problems in the later seasons. Everything centers around Omi. Hardly any screentime for his friends..

Clearly this is all Tara Strong's fault.
>> No. 2519161
>>2519159
I'm just really peeved that every single Celestia does something, she is called a femoral artery by every single person in the fandom.
Fuck, even when she doesn't do anything, people call her a femoral artery.
It's pretty disheartening to me.
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>>2519158
Yeah, this is kinda what I'm thinking. They obviously can't go on having the other characters and the rest of the ponies always worshipping Twilight, because they didn't do that with EoH and such, because it'd be awkward and kinda mess with the flow of the episodes.

So if they're going to just pretty much ignore Twilight's new godhood...well, that's a path of lesser evil, I guess. The wings are bearable to an extent. But it's also kinda odd because they made such a huge deal of the change and now they're ignoring it pretty much? Ehhhh....

And there's also the point of "friendship letters" now being 100% removed. Sure, they phased them out over S2/S3, but will there be any morals/friendship-based episodes now?
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>>2519161
No, we are calling her a well intentioned hypocrite. She also has what TVtropes would call an "Omniscient Morality License"
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>>2519160

My collection has been summoned.
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>>2519161
>implying that people are actually being serious about Trollestia and not just joking
>> No. 2519166
>>2519165
I dunno, I think the people saying Celestia is a femoral artery for "forcing" Twilight to be an Alicorn are pretty genuine.
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I think it's time for some super in depth analysis and discussion:

Why does Spike take 7 hour bubble baths!? That's weird!
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>>2519166
If anything, they're blaming the writing, and just using Trollestia as a vessel.

It really does make sense though...the moral of the episode is all about "You find your own destiny, not have someone else choose it for you"....and then Twilight gets her own destiny chosen for her. Wat?
>> No. 2519169
>>2519167
Have you ever tried to wash scales? Not that easy.
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>>2519167
I know right?

First, the water starts to smell.
Second, the bubbles never last that long
Third, your skin gets all pruney not applicable to Spike
Fourth, It's a collasal waste of time... Shouldn't Spike be doing chores?
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>>2519169

I guess that makes sense...

But how come when Twilight swapped the elements of harmony, she didn't swap her own?
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>>2519158
>>2519162
Yeah I've been thinking long and hard about how Twi's gonna flow with the normals.

The easiest way to do this for the mane 6 is "Yeah she's a god now, but we're all still very intimate friends" but now I'm worried about the Ponyvillians. Hard to have Twilight slice of life with her being the Princess of Magic now.

Well, they have months to figure it all out.
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>>2519172
>Months to figure it out
Actually, S4's writing is probably long done by now. They're probably halfway through the VA work, at that.
>> No. 2519174
>>2519173
Oh Thank God.
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>>2519172
> we're all still very intimate friends
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He's done that since PoO.
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>>2519173
They're probably still writing for the latter half of the season.
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So even if Discord really is reformed now. Such a major disturbance in the balance of the Elements of Harmony would likely allure him to spread Chaos once again because he wouldn't be stoppable at all. Missed a good opportunity to give the finale a major antagonist. Twilight Sparkle just randomly messing up a spell didn't feel all that fulfilling of story arch meant to finish of a season.
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>>2519177
...They're still working on writing? Well, shit. Unless they start animation soon, we're not gonna see S4 until December '13 or later.
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>>2519180
With 26 episodes, they can still be on the writing while working on the animation. There was a live reading of HWE, the 13th episode, where the finished scripts were brought for the voice actors to read off of, and the final draft was dated February 2011. Animation started only two months later, but that batch of episodes was still finished by October.

Well, December actually, but it still started in October when you don't count RoH.

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>>2519176

I know, it's sure not a one time thing.
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>>2519172
Since season 4's opener is supposed to be a continuation of the season 3 finale, I belive it will be about god Twi trying to do her royal duties, and as a result starts losing contact with her friends and becomes emotionally distant and cold. New villain pops up (possibly Night Mare Moon again to go full circle, May be Luna trying to guise herself and show Twilight how important friendship is.) Twilight can't fight the villain back, and her friends come to save her. She loses her friendship status, and status quo continues as normal. Rest of the story based season episodes focuses on Spike and his backstory.
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Oh, another thing I forgot to add-

Hooray, that stupid "I can fly now! My wings are amazing!" song from the Twilight Alicorn toy is not in the show. Yay!
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>>2519180

>>2519183
So just do God of War 2 style? She has a taste of godhood and it get's taken away?
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What could have been ;_;
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>>2519186
What could have been?
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>>2519186
Maybe we'll find out one day.

Although, she'd probably only spill da information if MLP:FiM ended, if ever.

inb4 this show never ends
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>>2519186
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>>2519095

I am. I most certainly am.
>> No. 2519191
>>2519186
She's so gloomy lately. I hope she get's it together.
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>>2519188
This is the show that doesn't end
Yes it goes on and on my friend
Some people started watching it not knowing what it was
And they'll continue watching it forever just because...
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>>2519188

I'd be fine with that. To other people, this show is over/jumped the shark. But I've only ever been mildly dissatisfied by some episodes. This show never disappoints me.
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>>2519186

Is that image modified? Because the post on Twitter only says "Sorry guys, I simply cannot comment on the Twilight Alicorn business."
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>>2519186
>>2519187

I try not to think about what might have been
'Cause that was then
And we have taken different roads
We can't go back again,
There's no use giving in
There's no way to know what might have been.

Probably not that appropriate for the moment, but heh.
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>>2519193
>But I've only ever been mildly dissatisfied by some episodes.

Hm. I've told myself I've hated episodes, but really, I could probably agree with you. Nothing has been that bad personally... And even so, there's a lot more good than bad. I don't want it to end. I could end up regretting those words, but oh well.
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Did it really need all that singing? I felt like I was watching a G1 episode.

Twilight becoming an alicorn?: Executed well!

The songs?: Excessive and forced!
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>>2519194
She deleted the tweet, and then reposted it. Heh heh, I took a screenshot myself. Ain't I a stinker?
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>>2519193
I'm with you yet again.
>>2519196
There's really only 2 episodes I've "hated": Owl's well that ends Well and Keep Calm and Flutter On.

Even then I just wished they were redone instead of just saying
>NOPE, Not canon
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>>2519194
That was her original tweet. She deleted it and re-tweeted without the "my plans are now irrelevant" part.
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>>2519154

Send me a postcard!

>>2519157

HERESY

>>2519158

>"Oh is that barn broken? Just let me fix it with my god magic!"


That'd actually one of my lesser fears for the future of the series. I never focused on it in discussions, because spraining one's arm isn't a big deal compared to having your head taken off, but now that whatever vile beast wanted to decapitate me is gone, I can discuss this.


I do not want to see Twilicorn doing things for the rest of the cast.


What I mean is, I still want her to do things such as advice and support and all that, but I do not want to see physical favors like lifting all the apples in Applebuck Season. The fact that she can do that has bugged me ever since I started thinking about it, because she do almost the whole labor of the farm by herself, and I truthfully think that's OP when the pony whose talents are farming and stamina and hard work couldn't do that, as the episode demonstrated. This power boost (and there will be some power boost; even if alicorns aren't super-powerful, they are more powerful than your normal pony) will make that problem even greater for future episodes. Twilicorn being able to solve others' material problems is not a good thing for the series because it diminishes the other characters. Now, Twilicorn would never try to do everything for her friends, I hope, because if she did then she doesn't really understand friendship and such a thing called pride in oneself. But, she might see something, like another busted barn, and think she'd be doing Applejack a favor by magicking it into perfect condition, maybe a better condition than Applejack could've made it due to natural error that occurs when working. This would make Applejack's talents seem lesser. If such a thing repeatedly happened, we may run into the problem of turning a character into the slice of life equivalent of Krillin, or Yamcha (and, rewatching Dragonball at the moment, I really like Yamcha as a character, making his uselessness in DBZ worse because when you look at him as a character and not a punching bag you can't help but feel bad for him). If one of the mane six ever becomes utterly unimportant, that's probably one of the hypotheticals that would make me leave the show.


Now, I do think I'd enjoy an episode where Twilicorn does exactly this, and the character she's "helping" begins to get upset by all of her "help" because it's making them feel unimportant. Applejack seems like a good character to use for this, and I've actually thought through a general idea of how it could work.

How I'm thinking it'd work is the Apple family goes out of town except for Applejack, but while they're gone some natural disaster happens, windmills get broken and livestock run off and the barn gets ruined, and Applejack needs help fixing everything. Twilicorn offers and Applejack accepts.

However, Applejack starts noticing that while she's tiring out and sweating, Twilicorn isn't fatiguing at all and doing more than the majority of the work. Applejack starts working harder to catch up and do her share, but she doesn't feel she's doing enough.

She eventually starts working herself ragged all day, and whether she's doing more than Twilicorn or not (I would hope she does do more, maybe 65% of the work while Twilicorn does 35%, it's her talent after all, she should be more capable at this specific thing) she doesn't slow off and gets exhausted a la Applebuck Season. The work goes on without incident (there aren't the gags from Applebuck Season, just the note of her looking and feeling exhausted), but towards the end when all that's left is finishing barn, Twilicorn notices her fatigue and asks Applejack if she wants to rest while she finishes this.

Applejack comes clean about how she feels inferior because Twilicorn still has barely broke a sweat through it all, using simple magic to do the work. Twilicorn points out how much more Applejack has done overall, and how there are things Twilicorn couldn't do like plant the crops or prepare the food or things special to Earth ponies (I'd like to hold to the theory that, if an alicorn is made, they don't get as much power of the races they're given as a pony born with it; Twilicorn can still shoot magic like it's nothing, moreso than as just a unicorn, but she wouldn't be as good a flyer as Rainbow Dash or as tuned with the Earth and plants and all as Applejack), things that really do need to be demonstrated in an episode to put Earth ponies on equal footing with the other races without resorting to fanon. Applejack is assured she still has a place in Ponyville that can't be replaced, there's no lasting strife, and the barn gets finished through combined effort.

The Apple family gets back and remarks on the improvements made to the barn, then gets destroyed by something else.


It's something that could've been done with Twilight the unicorn, but as an alicorn it might work better.
>> No. 2519202
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I disagree
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>>2519201
>Now, I do think I'd enjoy an episode where Twilicorn does exactly this, and the character she's "helping" begins to get upset by all of her "help" because it's making them feel unimportant.

This is what should have happened in SAYS. Instead of turning spike into a bumbling idiot, just make AJ have a problem with him helping with everything, because she's not comfortable having someone else doing the work for her, or making her feel useless.

Though I kinda suppose that would clash a bit with Applebuck Season...
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>tfw you spend too long writing a detailed post and the conversation is now far away from what you were replying too
>> No. 2519205
Just finished up the episode, my thoughts:

-fuck the twilicorn thing is going to be permanent, and they were certainly not subtle about establishing her as "supreme" to her friends, making them bow to her in fact

-they actually used "alicorn" in the show, even though i know that's a fan term that hasn't been seen on the show until now

-rarity would have been able to handle the weather, it's bullshit that she wasn't able too

-we know for a fact that RD can handle animals when we saw MTBPW, so that's bullshit too

-Apparently ponyville will dissolve into anarchy without pinkie pie, apparently pinkie has been preventing the destruction of ponyville for years! Who knew?

-there was a lot of music in this episode, i think most of it was actually music, that's not a bad thing, but you would think they could have spared SiP or WA a song. RD still hasn't gotten a solo.

- not a bad episode, but it doesn't bode well for the S4 imo
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>>2519201

I believe in a new god now.
>> No. 2519207
>>2519203

I think the idea doesn't so much as clash with Applebuck Season, but rather looks at the other end. In Applebuck Season she was just stubbornly refusing help, but here, she accepts the help, but feels like she's letting the helper do too much and she isn't doing enough. They're both revolved around the issue of pride, but it's a bit reversed; in one, her pride won't let others help, in the other the help by others is affecting her pride. Also, Applejack remembers the lesson from Applebuck Season, so she has the concern of not refusing the help because she knows she does need it. It's like doing a school group project by yourself when you can't handle the load, compared to feeling like everyone is doing more than you and you aren't contributing. I don't know if that's the best analogy for it, though.
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>>2519206

You believe in a false idol!
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>>2519206

You believe in a false idol!
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>>2519206

You believe in a false idol!
>> No. 2519211
>>2519205
>fuck the twilicorn thing is going to be permanent, and they were certainly not subtle about establishing her as "supreme" to her friends, making them bow to her in fact
That seemed to be more out of courtesy in response to her being a princess. We'll see if that kind of attitude actually continues, but I doubt it.

Plus she made a point that it's because of them that she was even given that honor in the first place, during her coronation speech.

>they actually used "alicorn" in the show, even though i know that's a fan term that hasn't been seen on the show until now
Magic Duel. Some people claimed it could've meant unicorn horn, but the staff have stated before the season that they use alicorn now when referring to winged unicorns.

>rarity would have been able to handle the weather, it's bullshit that she wasn't able too
She's too OCD and artistic to allow something she's in charge of to just happen naturally.

>we know for a fact that RD can handle animals when we saw MTBPW, so that's bullshit too
She ran them ragged in that episode, and they probably behaved so well because they were all competing to be her pet. I doubt she could actually handle all those animals at once.

>Apparently ponyville will dissolve into anarchy without pinkie pie, apparently pinkie has been preventing the destruction of ponyville for years! Who knew?
They're just not as happy. Which probably wasn't helped by Rarity's bad weather management.

>there was a lot of music in this episode, i think most of it was actually music, that's not a bad thing, but you would think they could have spared SiP or WA a song. RD still hasn't gotten a solo.
There probably just wasn't room to fit one in those episodes.

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>> No. 2519212
>>2519126
i noticed that too, it was the first song too, Ingram is telling us to calm our shit.
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>>2519208
>>2519209
>>2519210
>> No. 2519214
Im bothered by Twilight's apotheosis.

They built her up like she's finished a transcendant and spiritual journey but she really hasn't.

They say she's exemplified the various traits of harmony but I take issue with that as well.

Charity? I cant recall when Twilight has given anything away, or ever put others ahead of herself in any particularly significant way.

Compassion? Again, she's not particularly compassionate.

Devotion? Yes, but then again it was her job to spend time with her friends so that devalues her devotion.

And the rest.
Twilight has always been there to be the sort of straightman/mediator. She is not the center of the story, she's just the most prominent character.

and the whole "now we are your students" line bugs me.
Twilight has always been the leader of the group, so dont claim that now she is going to grow into a higher station.

Everything prior to her transformation was good but I'm going to close this by saying that the show is best when it is not about Twilight, or when Twilight is OOC like in LZ.

Whenever she takes on her mantle of main character she becomes a bland good guy persona rather than her adorkable and sociially awkward self.
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>>2519212
Well hey there brony! I 'm your inner frat boy!

You know, just because Princess Twilight is different from what you wanted, doesn't mean you should be afraid of her.

Instead, you should be ANGRY and her! WHAT, MY HEADCANON WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU!?
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>>2519214

>calls S3 Twilight bland

Beardswirl, can we keep this anon, please? I wanna call him Fluttershutter Jr., but if you have another suggestion I'll listen.


I actually missed the mane six calling themselves her students. That actually does rustle me.
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>>2519216
I think it goes back to Meghan's comment on what a princess basically is: being a good pony who shares the gifts that they have been given with others.
>> No. 2519219
>>2519211
you make good points, and i can accept most of your corrections, but the bowing thing still bugs the hell out of me, and in my personal opinion they could have trimmed some of the fat in SiP to make room for a song. I just want to see a RD solo song so badly.
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>>2519208
>>2519209
>>2519210

My god gave us this kind gift, and she didn't ran away at the 1st chance she had after creating Equestria.
>> No. 2519221
>>2519203
>spike into a bumbling idiot
For crying out loud guys, he's still a kid. A bright kid, but just a kid.

He's not supposed to be Uber competent.
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>>2519216
What are we adopting Anons now?
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>>2519222

We're going to need many new posters on /arch/ after many of them leave during the hiatus. Including you.
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>>2519223
I think I'll take off too, I mean it's not like I have anything to contribute without the show anymore.
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>>2519223
I have no control over me leaving. But I will be back...
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>>2519225
You know the whole time I was here, I was always just waiting for the great Beardswirl to show up again.
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aw man, i finally though of the perfect character to post as just now, now i HAVE to stay for awhile.
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>>2519226
Oh, I wouldn't call myself "great".

It took awhile, but I did get back for S3 and got to see Twilight become an alicorn princess. That's all that really matters.
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>>2519216
... I wanted to be Fluttershutter jr. ...
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>>2519228
I mean you were the Twilight poster before me. I practically look up to you.
>> No. 2519231
>>2519218

But, don't you think the mane six all know friendship equally well? I mean, I don't like the implication that even though friendship is a mutual experience, Twilight is the only one of them who's a true friend. I think the others are just as great friends as Twilight is. What do they have to learn that Princess Twilight Sparkle has to teach them?

>>2519222

I just wanted something to remember you by while you're gone. ;____;
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>>2519229

Well, you look closer to Beardswirl than me. Don't let that get you down, though, just because you got the short end of the stick gene wise doesn't mean you are any less loved.
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>>2517907
UGH, True True Friend just gives me so many feels. Seeing Rarity and AJ brought to tears by how helpless they feel in their switched destinies is too much. Welp, here come the tears.

I'm not really a fan of how Twilight just kinda solved the problem of the show without any clear hint to the viewership what the solution would be.

The bowing thing probably didn't need to happen, but at least Celestia did it to, which makes it more of a situational nod to her achievement than any kind of exceptional obeisance.

Everything's gonna be just fine, lol.
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No no, god no.
>> No. 2519235
>>2519231
>I dont like the implication that Twilight is the only true friend
I agree. Because really Twilight hasnt done nearly as much for them as they do for each other.

She just kind of acts as the de facto leader and mediator. She's there to give lessons and relay things to Celestia. She isnt really an exceptional friend, she is just the main character.
>> No. 2519236
>>2519231
Whatever the lesson of the day is basically, no different then how, as she said, her friends have helped teach her.

I think it's just related to the idea that Twilight has essentially graduated, and instead of a student can now be considered a teacher of sorts, including in the field of friendship.

Though teachers are still capable of learning new lessons, like how Celestia said she'd still be a guide for Twilight.

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>> No. 2519237
I feel like I've come to dislike the current state of affairs more as the day has gone on. I'm still not like, mad, or despairing, but I think my current opinion could best be described as a moderately long sigh.
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>>2519230
>I practically look up to you

Haha, well that might not be the best thing to do... I don't think I'm a particularly good role model for posters. But thank you!

>>2519231
Ah don't worry Flutters... We'll always have Season Three! You know you'll never be able to look at Alicorn Twilight without thinking of me.
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>>2519218

Ummm.... Wouldn't that qualify all of the Mane 6 for Princesshood?
>> No. 2519240
>>2519239
Twilight's also done the magical studies for it, as well as actually holding a position within the kingdom.

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>>2519216
> mane six calling themselves her students

Did they actually say that?! *Upchucks into the nearest trashcan*

I haven't seen this episode yet simply because I haven't worked up the courage to. This does not convince me to start anytime soon!

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>>2519236
Why twilight though? i mean it's probable that it could be a genetic thing, after all her brother is royalty, but if it's a friendship thing like they claim than why are the other 5 not princesses?
>> No. 2519243
>>2519242
Essentially, they're just not in the proper career paths. Twilight at least works directly for Celestia, so this is sort of like a promotion for her, while the others all have their own careers.
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>>2519234
Switch destinies got fix way too fast with little to no work from twilight.

What was starswirl the bearded spell about. what did it do. why did twilight need to fix it.

The rest of the mane 6 did not a thing to help Twilight to become a princess. you can just replace them with dolls and it will be the same.

at the end it just ground to a halt
>> No. 2519245
>>2519241
>>2519216
That's because they didn't.
What Celestia said is "Now they're all your students", which I believe is just a metaphor for "Now they're all under your wing".



...Not that anypony cares, right? I mean, it's Celestia, unless she's a bitch or a monster or a porn fantasy, nobody cares about her, as long as she is there to move the plot along, hype up boring bug ladies, or just make little Luna look better, ain't that right?
...Yes, I'm down in the dumps again, It's been 65 episodes, countless fanfiction, a song, and people still think Celestia isn't worth the time... It just fills me with "why bother"...
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>>2519221
But he has been very intelligent and very dexterous in the past. SAYS has him doing dumb things like smelling his feet, and having him be incredibly clumsy and seemingly not even aware that he's screwing everything up.

Just saying.
>> No. 2519247
>>2519244
>What was starswirl the bearded spell about. what did it do. why did twilight need to fix it.
Seems like a spell that affects destiny. Twilight worked it out and amended it by creating a counterspell.

>The rest of the mane 6 did not a thing to help Twilight to become a princess. you can just replace them with dolls and it will be the same.
It's all the lessons she's learned throughout the series, including friendship itself, that she wouldn't have learned without meeting them.
>> No. 2519248
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>>2519245
Oh, so that's what was meant? That's not quite as bad. Still very dangerous wording though!

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 17:41

>> No. 2519249
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>>2519244
I heard that the finale might be a 2 or 3 prater, but that's completely unverified. And i seeing how conclusive the ending here was i think we can scratch that off as a possibility. Also i'm crossing my fingers in hopes that discord returns in S4 to swipe twilight's wings from her and never give them back!
>> No. 2519250
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>>2519249
It'll be a three parter with the season 4 premiere. MMC acts as a spiritual part 1, like TTM and SFS are to BNE.
>> No. 2519251
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>>2519243

But will you agree that, if they did an accomplishment in their respective field similar to Twilight writing her own spell, they would have the opportunity to Become, if they wanted to?

>>2519238

But I wanted something positive to remind me of you. If all I have to remember of you is a bad idea and a rash, I won't form a very good memory, will I?
>> No. 2519252
This is what everyone has been going insane over? This is what everyone was crying "THE SHOW IS DEAD!" about? Good lord bronies are crybabies. I thought the episode was pretty good. The first half was fun, great music, and Twi did her "magical awesomeness" thing.

Then we got the second half and HOLY FUCK CELESTIA SINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hell yes I say. Twilight stays humble, thanks her friends, Shining cries (Liquid pride!). I thought it was handled pretty well.

The only issue I had was it was only a 20 minute episode, should have been like all the other season finales and been much longer, just felt rushed. Otherwise, great episode, alicorn is cannon, Twilicorn rules, bronies are worse than the 12/21/2012 doomsday whackos.
>> No. 2519253
>>2519251


See, this DOESN'T make any freaking sense about the career paths thing. The elements of harmony are what turned twilight into an alicorn with friendship. You shouldn't need to be a unicorn to become one if its only about friendship.


its just utterly snubbing the rest of the staff.
>> No. 2519254
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>>2519251
Just remember all the good times Flutters, and patiently await my return!
>> No. 2519255
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>>2519254
You can run, but you can't hide.
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>>2519251

If you want I could keep you informed of his status on the following months.
>> No. 2519257
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>>2519247
>Seems like a spell that affects destiny. Twilight worked it out and amended it by creating a counterspell.
but it was unfinished and most likely never used so there is no need for a counterspell, and twilight only needed a counterspell because she tryed to cast a unfinished spell.

>It's all the lessons she's learned throughout the series, including friendship itself, that she wouldn't have learned without meeting them.
ok ok i'll take that one back if it was not for true true friend twilight will not got the idea how to fix that spell.
>> No. 2519258
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>>2519254
Ahh, is this goodbye for now, then?
>> No. 2519259
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The moral of the story is: IF Starswirl the bearded has finished his own spell, he would officially have been a Princess.
>> No. 2519260
>>2519251
I highly doubt they could become a princess by being a good baker or entertainer, making the most popular dresses or running the most profitable farm, the latter two both essentially their own businesses. I doubt there's a princess above Spitfire's position. And Fluttershy doesn't seem to do much, at best run a pet grooming service, so she'd be in the same boat as the others.

However, I still think if a pony wanted to become princess, she could, but they would have to get into government work over in Canterlot first. I just think they're usually more interested in some other line of work or don't have that kind of ambition.
>> No. 2519261
>>2519259
Nope, the moral is that even the most Heartfelt song in the entire show won't, and in fact, provide ammo for, detractors of your favorite character.
...I'm grumpy...
>> No. 2519262
>>2519253

Nothing has ever said you must be a unicorn to Become; I've adopted the headcanon that anyone with the right lessons and values, and maybe they need an event that really brings what they learned into light, can Become if they want to.
>> No. 2519263
>>2519257
I'm saying some sort of counterspell is probably necessary for the spell to be considered complete..
>> No. 2519264
>>2517907
I must say I really loved this episode, even though it seemed a little rushed. If they had made this story premise into a two-parter, then I would EASILY have ranked this episode as one of my all time favorites! But I never had any doubts, Larson is the man!

Pros:
Musical episode (LOTS of good songs, yay!)
Celestia singing
Funny premise (Destiny switch)
Epic conclusion
Dərpy

Cons:
Rushed, almost no depth.
Notsurehowtofeelabouttwilicorn.jpeg

Overall 9/10

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 18:06

>> No. 2519265
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>>2519260
but wouldn't the other 5's jobs probably be more interesting? What does being a princess even entail? Is twilight president now? Does she have any new responsibilities? What kind of destiny involves looking pretty and waving to the crowd? that sucks! It would be way more inspiring to see RD become a wonderbolt or see rarity get her dress shop off the ground, not some generic and ambiguous "princess" destiny that twilight hasn't particularly expressed interest in previously.

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 18:07

>> No. 2519266
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>>2519263
that maybe true, but at no point no one said that it was needed, it can be just as true to say twilight was a dərpy dərp.

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 18:13

>> No. 2519267
>>2519260

I don't like that. Becoming a princess is supposed to be representative of having the right values, isn't it? But if you can only be a princess if you X, Y, Z, and five other letters of the alphabet representing objective things unrelated to what the position is supposed to mean, it's a bit of a broken aesop.
>> No. 2519268
>>2519265
That doesn't really relate to what I was saying. We'll probably see what the new duties entail next season, since this episode was just about making Twilight one.

And Rarity and Rainbow Dash will have their careers focused on in the future as well.
>> No. 2519269
>>2519267
Princess is more than just a title and free set of wings. It will also probably come with certain duties and responsibilities to fulfill that wouldn't be fair to put on someone who already has a different job.
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>>2519268
I guess my main point was she hasn't shown previous interest in becoming a princess, so it's weird that that's her "destiny", and the writing magic excuse seems shaky to say the least. Also i really wish i could believe that the show won't become more twilight centric, but when they have so clearly propped her up above everpony else it's hard for me to believe.
>> No. 2519271
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Was finally able to watch it after both being gone all day and then struggling to get Youtube to work.

Hot damn. At least...man, I loved the songs. All of them. Which is good because a bunch of the other songs this season were just kinda...eh~ But all of the songs this episode gave me that "Oh yeah, and FiM has excellent songs!" vibe that I used to get.

It wasn't a perfect episode, but it gave me all the right feels that an episode of FiM should give me. I'm sure it doesn't hold up to intense scrutiny, and I liked the first half (or first two thirds?) more than the last half, but it was still overall good.

If I had to say one thing that just felt odd was...the reasoning for "promoting" Twilight to alicorn seemed kind of arbitrary. Like, I can understand it being everything she has done as Celestia's student being put into consideration here, but the way it was handled in the episode seemed to put more emphasis on creating new magic than was really necessary.
>> No. 2519272
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>>2519258
I'll be around until Tuesday... After that, I'm a ghost.
>> No. 2519273
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>>2519270
According to Tara Strong, the biggest difference with Twilight herself is that she has wings now. She'll still live in Ponyville and her relationship with her friends hasn't changed. Ultimately, being a princess will probably just lend itself to more story ideas for Twilight, but that doesn't mean she'll dominate the show now, since the voice actors have also talked about how Meghan's talked to them about story ideas for their characters as well as how they still tried to emphasize the importance of the mane six's role in the show as well.
>> No. 2519274
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i need to go to bed but if you liked it then i happy for you, i just think it needs a rewrite.

PS i'm calling it now in the first two episodes of season four twi goes back to be a unicorn

PPS if that happens i will not be happy
>> No. 2519275
>>2519269

Then I don't see any immediately transferable moral. If it's a job promotion what can the target audience get from it? Because, as it has been stated, it never really seemed like her goal was to become a princess, so we can't even have a "follow your dreams" moral (we already have that in Dash anyway).
>> No. 2519276
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>>2519273
So than the twicorn thing is completely arbitrary and meaningless apart from the physical changes? If so they seemed to make quite a big deal out of it!
>> No. 2519277
>>2519276
I said that while the character and her relationships won't change, she'll still have new possible challenges to face in the future, according to McCarthy, and those could instead cause character development.
>> No. 2519278
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>>2519276
sad now
>> No. 2519279
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>>2519272
That's probably when I'll depart /arch/ too. I'm still be on PAD after that, and there's Blazing on Steam too.

I'll be here when season 4 begins, you can count on that.
>> No. 2519280
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>>2519277
Which makes the show more twilight centric!
>> No. 2519281
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>>2519278
I'm sorry i don't mean to make you sad, I'm just afraid for the future of the show.
>> No. 2519282
>>2519280
Do you think they're going to use all of the possible ideas for Twilight the first season they can? This sort of issue depends more on the ratio of Twilight episodes compared to others per season.
>> No. 2519283
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>>2519280

Great news!

>>2519272
>>2519279

Then, we shall sing, so the blessing of the old triumvirate that ruled over /arch/ will protect Starded, may he lead us to victory!
>> No. 2519284
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>>2519279
I should be back well before S4 begins... It's been great being back and talking to ya Sai. Feels like old times man.

I didn't know you had Steam. You can add me as a friend if you want. I'm not on too often though.
>> No. 2519285
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>>2519284
Oh, sure. We got the whole PAD Steam chat group thing going on and everything. Pretty chill most of the time. Anyway, sent you an invite on there.
>> No. 2519286
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>>2519272
It's been good seeing you back while you could, man.
>> No. 2519287
>>2519252
S1's finale was also 22 minutes.
>> No. 2519288
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>>2519282
No, but assuming they are going to segue this into more options for twilight seem to me to imply that they want to have more "ammo" to make twilight episodes. Wait what are we even talking about, this was a hasbro mandate wasn't it! Its really just a matter of whether the writers are going to be working with it, around it, or ignoring it as best they can in the future, and honestly i would prefer the ignoring approach more than anything.
>> No. 2519289
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>>2519284
>>2519285

Well this is a pleasant surprise.
>> No. 2519290
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>>2519289
Bleh, it is, but it shouldn't be. We used to heavily recruit friends from /arch/ but we stopped too long ago.
>> No. 2519291
>>2519288
They'll probably be working with it, but not in a totally encompassing way. She'll have her episodes, but it's an ensemble cast, so they'll also be giving episodes to all the other characters as well.
>> No. 2519292
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>>2519289
A steam group huh? I can dig it! Count me in!

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 18:53

>> No. 2519293
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>>2519281
I am to
>> No. 2519294
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>>2519291
I hope you're right, and i'm going to give S4 the full benefit of the doubt, but honestly hopes are pretty low right now.
>> No. 2519295
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>>2519290
Oooh, can I be a part of the cool kids club too?
>> No. 2519296
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>>2519295

And me?
>> No. 2519297
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>>2519292
>>2519295
>>2519296
It's more of a PAD-base thing than anything. Swing by there if you'd like.
>> No. 2519298
>>2519295
>>2519296
Its simply a /gala/ serial

I just kinda showed up before I became a regular and I think you'd be ok if you want to do it as well
>> No. 2519299
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>>2519297
I have no idea what a PAD is.
>> No. 2519300
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>>2519299

Remember any posters who you used to see on /arch/, but mysteriously vanished? Chances are you'll find a few of them.
>> No. 2519301
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>>2519299
>>2519300

Pretty much that.

Some of the folks in /P/AD still visit /arch/, but for the most part there's little overlap.
>> No. 2519302
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>>2519299
/arch/ After Dark. It's a serial in /gala/ that was started by some /arch/ posters back in the day. Most of the people who post in PAD either still post in /arch/, or used to post in /arch/ but no longer do or never did, but found their way to the serial one way or another
>> No. 2519303
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>>2519302
Sounds...delicious.

But yeah, I looked in that thread and saw at least 4 or 5 old /arch/ people that I haven't seen in months.

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 20:25

>> No. 2519304
>>2519273

I have no faith in meghan, and I never will again after the blatant favortism twilight has gotten since Season 3 began (to say nothing of the finale of s2)
>> No. 2519305
I just realized something Rarity got from this season, even if she didn't get an episode.

Rarity now gets the title of best unicorn in the cast.
>> No. 2519306
>>2519305
This is true. I guess that is a positive for her.....kinda
>> No. 2519307
>>2519306
>>2519305
>implying she didn't have it before
>> No. 2519308
>>2519304

It's sad to say, I know, but I do not have faith in Meghan McCarthy. I don't like Twilight's overfocus, and it seems it happened once she took charge.
>> No. 2519309
>>2519307
Now she has it no contest.
>> No. 2519310
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>>2519309
idk, we still have her sister
>> No. 2519311
So what will happen now with the Mane 5?
>> No. 2519312
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>>2519311
That's the real question, i hope they REALLY back off twilight for awhile, honestly a good 10 straight episodes where she isn't more than a side character is just what the doctor ordered.
>> No. 2519313
>>2519312
Yeah, I do think so.
I think that, after the two-parter opener, S4 should focus entirely on the remainder of the Mane 6, with Twilight only popping up from time to time to make her presence known, maybe one or two episodes about her, tops.
>> No. 2519314
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Alright, I just rewatched it.


I feel no different than the first time, not at all. Great twenty minutes, then it collapses inward forming a black hole the moment they bow.


Just what am I going to do with this episode? There have been good episodes with bad parts that I rate as good (TMPP), bad episodes with good parts that I rate as bad (SAYS), but here, the good and bad are so profound and at odds that I can't decide what to do with it at all. I don't want to say it's good because the ending is so bad but I don't want to say it's bad because the beginning is so good (not the cold open, I mean the first half or so of the episode). And, I can't say it's average because it just isn't; usually the good and the bad are miscible and can blend into a "meh," but the good and bad are such extremes that it would be an insult not to give it a rating towards one of the extremes. But which one do I do?



Ughh, I'm going to get a headache trying to reason through this.
>> No. 2519315
>>2519314
Well, there is more good than bad, right?
Then rate it as good.
(Besides, as me and several other users pointed out, the bow isn't as bad as you make it out to be)
>> No. 2519316
>>2519314

>great twenty minutes

I need to stop thinking in commercial time. Great 14 minutes.
>> No. 2519317
>>2519315

But it's bad to me subjectively. It doesn't matter about formality and all that, that argument works for some people, but it doesn't sit right with me at all. Also rewatching it, the "now we are your students" line pointed out to me a few hours ago also stood out.

I can't rate it good because it's so bad.
>> No. 2519318
>>2519315
The whole "We are now your students" line kind of makes me weary.
>> No. 2519319
>>2519317

Flutter, you did see the part on the balcony where Twilight thanks her friends and bows to them right?
>> No. 2519320
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>>2519317
Alright, Fluttershutter...
First, remember how her inauguration speech was her bowing to her friends, and telling the whole of Equestria that she would have never gotten to her position without them?
And look at this picture, you notice that instead of being carried around in a chariot, Twilight instead jumped down, and started skipping alongside her friends?
And remember on how the episode ended, with all of them on one big group hug?
All while singing about how great life on Equestria is?

What I'm trying to say here is don't worry about it, everything is going to turn out to be fine, just you wait.
>> No. 2519321
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>>2519319
but she's on a balcony, which entirely defeats the purpose of the bow.
>> No. 2519322
>>2519321
How? Please enlighten me?
Seriously, I don't get why you people are so mad about it, Celestia bowed before Twilight and you don't see me mad.
>> No. 2519324
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>>2519322
because a bow is obviously a way to show that you are "lower" than someone, and they are "higher" than you.
>> No. 2519325
>>2519324

They are all on the balcony together...
>> No. 2519326
>>2519324
Uhn... Maybe that's the most authoritarian definition of a bow, but I always thought that a bow was simply a gesture of respect towards somebody important...
>> No. 2519327
>>2519325
ok, noted but twilight's was a one handed from the waste bow, like you would see a butler do, and theirs was a face in the ground bow.
>> No. 2519328
>>2519327

Sigh... you're really going to make a big deal out how low the bow was?

The fact is, Twilight says that she couldn't have done it without them, and says how important they still are to her. So there is nothing to worry about. Your fears are completely unfounded, at least until we get to the Season 4 premiere.
>> No. 2519329
>>2519328

You forget the concerns of "they were stepping stones."
>> No. 2519330
>>2519329
Did you even read >>2519320 ?

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 22:15

>> No. 2519331
>>2519328
it's obviously not going to fall apart the first few minutes of princessdom, but they did establish formalities, which is a really bad sign.
>> No. 2519332
>>2519331

I didn't see it as a formality. Just a show of respect. They were happy for her. It lasted all of two seconds. At no point during the coronation did they bow to her. They have a giant group hug at the end of the episode.

Again, unfounded.
>> No. 2519333
>>2519320

Just because she thinks she won't treat them different doesn't mean she won't after responsibilities kick in.
>> No. 2519334
>>2519333
She won't.
Remember that we're dealing with Friendship is Magic, so don't worry, everything will turn out just fine in the end, I promise.
>> No. 2519335
>>2519333

So you're upset over what MIGHT happen? Even though it is really, REALLY unlikely?

I think you're thinking too hard on it man.

>>2519334

This.
>> No. 2519336
>>2519335
>everything is going to be fine
Just because they sing a song about it twice doesn't mean it's true.
>> No. 2519337
>>2519334

Maybe when Faust was around it would, but I do not trust McCarthy, just because she thought Twilicorn was a good idea in the first place. Who knows what she'll want to do with the series?
>> No. 2519338
>>2519336
Alright, what sitting here, worrying like an old lady will accomplish?

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 22:30

>> No. 2519339
>>2519334

Maybe when Faust was around it would, but I do not trust McCarthy, just because she thought Twilicorn was a good idea in the first place. Who knows what she'll want to do with the series?
>> No. 2519340
>>2519338
We'll bald quicker?
>> No. 2519341
>>2519336

Yeah, because the things they say on the show are never true. At all. Because that's the message they want the target demographic to get.

"Once you get to a position of power, your friends mean nothing anymore".

You honestly think that's what they are going to do? Friendship is Magic? Really?
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>>2519338
i was actually just trying to lighten things up by making a joke in reference to the "everything is fine" song and reprise in the episode
>> No. 2519343
>>2519339
I think you're forgetting that McCarthy, above all else, is a professional, she is not going to focus the entire show on one character just because she likes her.
Specially when said show is basically an ad for a huge toy line.
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>> No. 2519345
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>>2519344
>> No. 2519346
>>2519344
>>2519345

Season 4 man. Rainbow will get another Wonderbolts episode in Season 4. You can quote me on that =).
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>>2519343

Seth MacFarlane is a professional too.
>> No. 2519348
>>2519343

Professionals wrote wesley in star trek too.
>> No. 2519349
>>2519347
Are you saying that McCarthy is the same as Seth McFarlane?
Seriously, Fluttershutter, just calm down, everything isn't as bad as it seems. It's all going to turn out just fine, I know it will.
>> No. 2519350
>>2519347

>Suggesting that MacFarlane and McCarthy are the same kind of person
>> No. 2519351
>>2519350
I think the point was that just because someone is a "professional" doesn't mean they are going to make quality tv, and i'm pretty sure you knew that.
>> No. 2519352
>>2519351

You honestly think they will have 26 episodes in Season 4 devoted to Twilight?

You're delusional, or a parasprite. My guess is the former.
>> No. 2519353
>>2519351
But you forget that for every Seth McFarlane, there are hundreds of highly competent professionals.
Sooo, no, not buying it, I'm judging by the rule here, not the exception.
>> No. 2519354
>>2519352
did i ever say that? No i didn't, and you put words in someones mouth and i try to defend them and now I'M the parasprite?
>> No. 2519355
>>2519352


Nah, they'll just have the Finale and premier dedicated to Twilight--- The other 5 ponies can pad out slice of life episodes alongside the CMC.

But anything with any importance or significance? fuck it, its the twilight show now bitches.
>> No. 2519356
>>2519355
Ok, you know what, I give up.
If you people want to dread and fear for 8 months, that's your business.
>> No. 2519357
>>2519354

Whatever. Continue to have a negative view about shit that hasn't even happened yet, and most definitely won't happen. See how far that gets you in life.

And going by 441's post here >>2519343, and your response here >>2519351
, yes you are saying that, and I am not "putting words in your mouth".

But whatever. I'm through arguing with people who want to just feel bad about the show. If it sucks for you now, then leave. If it is no longer bringing you joy to watch it, then leave. No one is forcing you to stay.
>> No. 2519358
>>2519356

It's no use man. Some people just want to feel like shit and get upset when other people don't feel like shit along with them.
>> No. 2519359
>>2519358
Eh, give them a month or so, they'll pipe down.
>> No. 2519360
>>2519356

Why would I want to dread when I just got over that? I'm not dreading that much over the future of the series, just this episode, and the future of the series got dragged in.
>> No. 2519361
>>2519360
And I keep telling you, it's all going to be fine, trust me on this, I'm generally right when it comes to those things.
I'm just wrong when it's Celestia's reputation on stake.

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 23:06

>> No. 2519362
>>2519361

You complained Celestia would never be thrown a bone but she got a song.
>> No. 2519363
>>2519361

Aw you edited your post.
>> No. 2519364
>>2519362
See? Wrong on that account.
But I thought that ACW was going to be good, and it was good.
And I thought that MD was going to be good, and it was good.
And I thought OBA was going to be bad, and it was bad.

All in all, I think I got a pretty solid track record when predicting the show's quality.
>> No. 2519365
>>2519359

That's because they're leaving the fandom... That's not exactly defending the position very well.
>> No. 2519366
>>2519360

It's fine that you didn't like something in particular about THIS episode Flutter. But the people taking this episode and saying the rest of the show is gonna suck now because of it are starting to piss 441 and I off to no end.

Regarding your bowing thing, again, you're reading too much into it. If a friend of mine became a monarch of some country, I would bow to them to show them that I respect what they have accomplished. They would still be my friend at the end of the day.

Hell, they weren't even calling her "Princess Twilight", or "Princess Sparkle" (I'm talking about Twilight's friends, not everyone else). They bowed for two seconds as a show of respect for what she accomplished, and that was it. They were still calling her "Twilight" at the end of the episode.
>> No. 2519367
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>>2519364

I liked OBA.
>> No. 2519368
>>2519367
Yeah, but it spoiled the rest of the season...
>> No. 2519369
>>2519365

And I say good riddance. We don't need the added negativity around here.
>> No. 2519370
>>2519364
OBA wasn't bad, it was utterly groundbreaking for a CMC episode!
>> No. 2519371
>>2519369


Denying the leaving of a portion of a fanbase just because you want a single pony to be more porminent is not a good stand to take.
>> No. 2519372
>>2519370
Well, I thought it was boring, and had a cliché that pisses me off to no end, so I hated it.
>> No. 2519373
>>2519372
That's fair, and note that i am weighing it on CMC episode scale, not a general scale.
>> No. 2519374
>>2519373
Alright, we cool then.
It still spoiled the rest of season 3.
>> No. 2519375
>>2519371

I never said that I wanted Twilight to be more prominent. You guys just THINK she is going to be, without ANY goddamn proof other than your own paranoia.

I'm gonna love watching you all be wrong come Season 4. 441 and I are gonna start the biggest fucking WE TOLD THOU SO thread in the world. Beardswirl and Saikar can help too.
>> No. 2519376
>>2519371

Now, now, Snowfire isn't like that, Snowfire has a level head and enjoys the ensemble of the mane six. Twilight is Snowfire's favorite pony but the group as a whole has more meaning to the show.

Snowfire isn't one of the people you're talking about.
>> No. 2519377
>>2519376

Actually, Twilight is my third favorite. Luna is number 1, and Celestia is number 2 for me.

Today was a very good day for me =).

I would rather have at least an episode devoted to each of the Mane 6 than watch Twilight have an entire season to herself. Because Season 4 is 26 episodes, we will probably see each of the Mane 6 get at least 2 episodes each. This is what will happen, not "The Twilight Show".

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 23:24

>> No. 2519378
>>2519377

You know what I mean, your favorite main character. My point still stands that you care about the group more than any individual member of the group, right?
>> No. 2519379
>>2519378

Yes, you would be right. I actually edited my previous post >>2519377.
>> No. 2519380
Long thread is long
>> No. 2519381
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Okay I'm kind of fucking mad now. Those who loved the episode are yelling "DETRACTOR!" at anything that even resembles criticism, even the more calmly thought out ones, and the neigh-sayers are fucking crying about how the show is ruined forever.What if I'm in the middle? What if I thought it had flaws that need to be addressed, but I still liked it. What then?

I liked MMC, but it had problems. The cutie mark switch plot had some big plot holes, and the ending was rushed. I loved the songs (especially the Celestia one and Twilight's sad song) and I liked that everypony was in character.

Also, please someone actually respond to me this time. I put a lot of effort into this post.
>> No. 2519382
>>2519377
one obligatory episode for the most predominant side 5 characters and the rest is twilight?! Sounds like the twilight show to me!
>> No. 2519383
>>2519381
I see your point, and i actually thought that for what it was the first 20 mins or so were pretty well done (apart from twilight single handedly saving the day) and the songs were pretty good (not as good as others in the past imo but still good).
>> No. 2519384
>>2519382
Now your just twisting everything into some negative spin. Snowfire even said the other 5 would get at least two, not one, episode, not to mention you're ignoring CMC and Spike too.
>> No. 2519385
>>2519381
There is no problem if you didn't like the episode, but saying that the whole show has gone down the shitter is overdoing it.
And honestly, your dislikes about the episode are valid, the episode does feel rushed, although the musical approach mitigated it a bit.
>> No. 2519386
>>2519382

Don't be a douchebag. You know what I meant. I said each of the Mane 6 would probably get 2 episodes EACH. That's not even including CMC and Spike episodes, along with miscellaneous episodes.

CELESTIA AND LUNA HISTORY EPISODE PLEASE!
>> No. 2519387
>>2519383
The ending was way too quick, which leads me to believe that they knew that Season 3 wasn't the end from the start. I mean if you thought it was the last season would make the last episode a one parter, and give Spike two episode, but give Rarity none? It makes no sense!
>> No. 2519388
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>>2519384
Oh man 2 obligatory episodes, boy was i wrong! That changes everything!
>> No. 2519389
>>2519381

441 and I aren't saying you can't dislike the episode. The difference is that an episode that has actually aired has SOLID EVIDENCE for saying why you don't like it.

The bullshit regarding "this episode sucked, therefore the rest of the show forever is going to suck", is paranoia.
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>>2519388
Okay, you know what? I'm done talking to someone who can only respond with utter negatively that tries their hardest to ignore any reasoning.

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 23:46

>> No. 2519391
>>2519388

Dude just STFU. Please. You are intentionally being an flankhole now.
>> No. 2519392
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>>2519389
Oh please, like the whole second half of S3 hasn't been generally sub par.
>> No. 2519393
>>2519390
Give it time, Marimo, they're going to cool off in the next months.
Everybody is just venting their emotions, I'm sure they'll become much more reasonable after a week or two.
>> No. 2519394
>>2519392

Half of season 3 in general has been twilight!

"Rarity hasn't got an episode? Fuck that, twilight show now"

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 23:48

>> No. 2519395
>>2519385
The supporters are kind of acting like dicks too though. You've been pretty calm, but everyone else seems to take any criticism as a stab to the chest. To be honest I'm still a bit worried about the ending, but I trust the writers to answer most of our questions in season 4.
>> No. 2519396
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>>2519390
all i'm saying is maybe we can put twilight in the corner for awhile and give the others more episodes than her.
>> No. 2519397
>>2519395


>>2519382
>>2519388
>>2519392
>>2519394

And these guys aren't?
>> No. 2519398
>>2519397
Well, actually, that's just two guys.
>> No. 2519399
>>2519396

Twilight is probably going to get the Season 4 premiere (probably episode 1 and 2). After that, yes, I agree they need to put her on the back burner.

But to say that she shouldn't appear AT ALL in Season 4 is stupid.
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>>2519382
I'll like to get out of Ponyville and have the Mane 6 fix lives in Equestria. In the same way dragonshy worked. but we don't know whats going on in season 4 and can't change anything only hope for the best

Last edited at Sat, Feb 16th, 2013 23:54

>> No. 2519401
>>2519389
I said I was pissed at them as well. To be honest I'm just really mad because I'm sick, I got up early to watch the episode, hoped to discuss it before I had to go to work, find a bunch of bitching and anger, go to work with sour mood and throbbing head ache, and I just want to be able to discuss the episode calmly...that's not too much to ask right?
>> No. 2519402
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>>2519399
i didn't say not appear, i said not get her own episode.
>> No. 2519403
>>2519399

Premiers and finales. Basically, the other 5 are CMC tier now, and get Slice of life. Past that, let the gods do their thing and sit in the corner.
>> No. 2519404
>>2519401

Give it a few weeks. The day of the episode is probably not the best time for rational discussion.
>> No. 2519405
>>2519401
Not on the first day, no...
Just give it time, both sides will eventually calm down, I promise.
>> No. 2519406
>>2519347
Seth ran the show into the ground and destroyed all of FG's characters. I wouldn't say it was that bad.

>>2519397
I didn't say they weren't. In my post a bit ago I said I was mad at both sides.
>> No. 2519407
>>2519403
>>2519402

So you would fix the whole "Twilight Show" thing by making Twilight a background character like Celestia and Luna? Only appearing once or twice a season?

Isn't that exactly what you were complaining about in the first place? Twilight pushing the other Mane 5 into the background and not getting as many episodes? You guys are suggesting they do the exact same thing to Twilight.

There is a happy medium. That's what they will shoot for.
>> No. 2519408
>>2519406
Well, maybe we should all round up the sensible people and found our own nation on the Moon.
Luna's a fairly reasonable landlord.
>> No. 2519409
>>2519407
twilight in season 4 would be rarity in season 3

Last edited at Sun, Feb 17th, 2013 00:02

>> No. 2519410
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>>2519408
Have you seen the moon recently? That place has gone downhill. Infested with rodents and stuff.
>> No. 2519411
>>2519407

I never said that. Honestly, they've utterly cocked everything up.

the proper way is to spread out the attention equally, like the first season, ROH or the comics do.
Really, there's no going back here, I don't see how htey're going to fix them ascending one character to a god.
>> No. 2519412
>>2519402
That's a bit much dood.

>>2519399
I agree completely.

>>2519404
Yeah I was just really wanted to talk to someone about the episode, but I haven't been able to talk to any of my IRL pony friends. Sorry if I sound like I'm whining I'm just really bummed right now.

>>2519405
Thanks 441 :) On the upside FlutterShutter is calm and I'm really happy for him :3
>> No. 2519413
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>>2519409
Is that really what you want?
>> No. 2519414
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>>2519407

I'd prefer one character sacrifice her screentime to allow focus to the other five wonderful characters than one having so much more screentime or status than all the others.

>>2519411


But yeah this, ffs...
>> No. 2519415
turns out I wasn't prepared for this.
>> No. 2519416
>>2519411
She's not a god. When you get down to it StarSwirl, a normal unicorn, was more powerful than her currently.
>> No. 2519417
>>2519411
It's doable, they would just need to A) make some serious strides with the other 5 in reaching their aspirations B) lay off twilight for a bit, you know what? Maybe a MMDW or OWTEW style episode for twilight is in order.

Last edited at Sun, Feb 17th, 2013 00:06

>> No. 2519418
>>2519416

When has starswirl done anything on screen or significant? He failed to write the spell that twilgiht wrote!
>> No. 2519419
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>>2519418
And was a friendless loser to boot
>> No. 2519420
>>2519418
That spell was partly done by him already, and was finished because Twilight had a better understanding of friendship than him.
>> No. 2519421
>>2519418
He has a whole wing of spell's and created a fucking time travel spell. To even try and say that he wasn't at least Twilight-tier is dumb. Just dumb.
>> No. 2519422
Of all the episodes where there is progress in the story. This is The. Worst. Possible. Episode.

I never liked all these episodes like Elements of harmony, return of harmony, canterlot wedding etc. I just want episodes like Party of One and green isn't your colour where the mane6 or CMC goes around and do some good old fashion pony mucking about.
>> No. 2519423
>>2519422
Yeah the pacing was shot to hell in this episode, but I still liked it overall.
>> No. 2519424
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>>2519422
>good old fashion pony mucking about
I second the motion!

Last edited at Sun, Feb 17th, 2013 00:16

>> No. 2519425
>>2519421

He may have been on par with Twilight at the beginning of the series, but due to her mastery of friendship which Star Swirl lacked she's since surpassed him.
>> No. 2519426
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>>2519425
it will be better if twilights friends made twilight a ailcorn and not Celestria
[edit] and got her out of that place she was to, like thier love for her saved her or some thing.

Last edited at Sun, Feb 17th, 2013 00:23

>> No. 2519427
>>2519425
I don't think that's true. Just because she understand friendship doesn't make her better than him. I mean he has a whole wing of spells HE made. That's pretty impressive.
>> No. 2519428
>>2519426

They did make her an alicorn, really. She couldn't have mastered magic as she did without her friends.
>> No. 2519429
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I mean I'm sorry to be a downer, but i really think it's important that the others still get proper, character developing (not filler), them centric episodes! Do you guys really not want that? Do you really think that twilight getting 10 episodes and the other mane 5 getting 1 or 2 filler episodes is really the optimal way to go? I just want a bit of balance, i just want the mane 5 to still be the main 5 and not some side characters, that's all. I mean sleepless in ponyville (where twilight didn't even make an appearance) was amazing, i think it was the best episode in the entire series, and now according to this twilight centric plan we won't see as many episodes like that.

Last edited at Sun, Feb 17th, 2013 00:33

>> No. 2519430
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>>2519427
In a way it can if you make friendship is magic. Have all pony magic be made of friendship cutie marks, spells, all of it then it will work
>> No. 2519431
>>2519430

Precisely, friendship is magic, it's the name of the show after all, as such in order to fully master magic one must master friendship.
>> No. 2519432
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>>2519428
no literally made her a ailcorn
>> No. 2519433
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>>2519432
It's hard for me to accept that, the 5 basically followed twilight around and did what she told them to. I didn't see much real participation on their part.

Last edited at Sun, Feb 17th, 2013 00:38

>> No. 2519434
>>2519431
I don't think she's a master yet. I mean we're only three seasons in. If she was a master from now on I'd find her arcs kind of boring.
>> No. 2519435
>>2519432

I don't believe anypony made her an alicorn in the sense of casting an alicorn spell or anything, as I mentioned much earlier after the episode aired my fanon is that any pony can potentially become an alicorn, it simply requires doing something so spectacular that it truly exemplifies the pony's thuper thpethial talent, for example the pony whose talent for magic mastering her talent to such a degree that she's able to complete a spell that even the greatest unicorn of the past couldn't.
>> No. 2519436
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>>2519433
sorry i'm saying ways to improve the episode not what happen in it. sorry if its off topic
>> No. 2519437
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>>2519436
ah, i see now, so your are speculating on how it could have been improved. my bad.
>> No. 2519438
>>2519128
>why the fuck didn't she just KILL the Mane 6 instead of playing grab-flank in the Everfree Forest?
I used to think that too. Only after The Crystal Empire and all the hate post on King Sombra I sit down to analyze previous villains. Then I realized why Nightmare Moon didn't kill them: She wanted loyal subject to admire her beautiful night. Killing your subjects won't so any good to her goal, most likely it's just backfire.

>>2519245
>which I believe is just a metaphor for "Now they're all under your wing"
I don't believe that. I think it's more about "So far you have been their student on learning the magic of friendship, but now you too can help your friends to be better friends."

>>2519324
What I know, in Japan people bow to each other all the time. Of course in this episode simple clopping might have done the same thing, but I think simple bow looks most natural for ponies.

>>2519383
>part from twilight single handedly saving the day
What? Did you skipped whole "True, True Friend" song? It wasn't Twilight saving the day, it was her friends saving the day.
>> No. 2519439
>>2519438
It was her friends saving the day under her careful, direct, and complete instruction.

Last edited at Sun, Feb 17th, 2013 00:45

>> No. 2519440
So everyone's ignoring me again...I'll just go sit in the corner.
>> No. 2519441
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>>2519440
i'm sorry, I didn't mean to, please don't hate me
>> No. 2519442
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>>2519440
it's getting late so the thread in general is starting to slow down as people nod off to sleep, i think there are like 5 people here now.
>> No. 2519443
>>2519441
>>2519442
Sorry guys I didn't mean to snap it's just been kind of a shitty day. I had to work from 3:30-11 while sick and I kind of have an inferiority complex. The combined have left me a bit crabby.
>> No. 2519444
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>>2519443
No worries, i hear you, i got myself a character to post as and nobody even seems to take notice.
>> No. 2519445
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>>2519443
its ok. I really do like your posts so pease don't think that you are being ignored.
>> No. 2519446
>>2519439
Even then, she didn't saved the day "single handedly". In one sense this is very similar solution than in Winter Wrap Up.
>> No. 2519447
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>>2519442

Dee stayed up until the episode aired and then several hours after discussing it before finally falling asleep. I just woke up a little bit ago so no nodding off for me.

>>2519443

>MINE COUNTENANCE WHEREUPON
>> No. 2519448
>>2519447
The Lyrabon did cheer me up a bit I can't lie.

>>2519444
I know that feel bro...

>>2519445
Thanks that means a lot :)
>> No. 2519449
You know now that I think about it...why was Celestia looking for an apprentice in the first place...wait or did she just accept Twilight after seeing her powers...I can't remember.
>> No. 2519450
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>>2519448
thanks i'm the same way
>>2519449
i think it was her potential

Last edited at Sun, Feb 17th, 2013 01:16

>> No. 2519451
>>2519449

Twi was originally there simply to take the entrance exam for Xavier's Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns, which Celestia may or may not actually be involved in, she just happened to be passing by when she noticed a giant purple dragon growing through the roof.
>> No. 2519452
>>2519450
Yeah I remember when we first met that you were pretty shy. Glad to see you contributing! I know we'll be amazing friends!
>> No. 2519453
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>>2519451

And the way I saw it first she simply wanted to help hone those abilities and help Twilight.
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>>2519449
I think that we saw her demonstrate amazing magical ability and get her cutie mark back in twilight's flashback of the cutie mark chronicles, yes i think that's where it started.

Last edited at Sun, Feb 17th, 2013 01:20

>> No. 2519455
>>2519450
>>2519451
Oooh yeah. As long as they don't bring up some prophecy thing about Twilight being the chosen one and that was why Celestia made her her apprentice I'll be fine with the changes.
>> No. 2519456
>>2519453
I like this. This is now my headcanon.

>>2519454
Yeah I believe you're right.
>> No. 2519457
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>>2519452
i'll like that
have a good night i need to go out soon

Last edited at Sun, Feb 17th, 2013 01:26

>> No. 2519458
>>2519457
Yay! I love making friends!

Also how would you guys feel if the rest of the mane six eventually became alicorns?
>> No. 2519459
>>2519457
Night!
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>>2519457
gnight, i should probably go to bed soon too (though that doesn't mean I'm necessarily going to)
>> No. 2519461
>>2519460
I'm gonna hit the hay is it were myself...after playing some Fallout 2.
>> No. 2519462
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>>2519417

Or they could just "S&E" her and run with the feet of clay she can wear in the background space.

Don't worry though, under this plan it would be made pretty apparent that Twilight wouldn't...

1) Get distilled into a complete joke

2) Have to wait 2 years to get an episode again.

Last edited at Sun, Feb 17th, 2013 01:54

>> No. 2519463
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>>2519458

Depends on the build up to it. In my version of Season 4, I would move the other 5 in a place where you could make them Alicorns if someone wanted to go there.

I will probably never be convinced otherwise, but I still think that giving Twilight her 10th Dan while she was a 4th/5th Dan is rushing things. Still, it doesn't change the fact that it's done. Let's just hope the creative team learns from the mistakes in the execution.

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>> No. 2519464
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>>2519462
They could S&E her couldn't they? Might work, though i think that it bears the risk of saying "i like you even though you aren't as good as me"
>> No. 2519465
>>2519462
Maybe in the two parter they all get some sort of royalty position?
>> No. 2519466
>>2519453

Faust's "Word of God" said Celestia had her reasons for giving Twilight a special test involving Spike's egg. So even from Faust's original intent, it seemed as if Celestia had planned something in advance for Twilight, or at least was looking out for a special test for a gifted unicorn wanting to get into the school.
>> No. 2519467
>>2519463
I like this idea.

>>2519466
It better not have involved a prophecy or some kind of fate thing, or I will stab at least seven kittens.
>> No. 2519468
>>2519464
I did love Twilight in S&E so I'm good with this. Hell S&E was my favorite season 2 episode, it was also the episode that got me shipping RariTwi...also what do you guys mean S&Eing her?
>> No. 2519469
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>>2519467
would you settle for 6?
>> No. 2519470
>>2519469
Yes...yes I would
>> No. 2519471
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>>2519468
like in sweet and elite where rarity goes off too a more "sophisticated" world and in the end tries to hide her embarrassing ponyville friends from her refined canterlot friends, but ends up accepting and acknowledging her ponyville friends, but with twilight instead of rarity, and wherever it is princesses go instead of canterlot.
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>>2519464

Very True. I wouldn't want a full blown word for word copy of Sweet and Elite, but the scenario would put Twilight in a situation where a flaw is exposed and reminds us that Sparks isn't some bland DC character that is a unflappable paragon of virtue that Season 3 arguably made her into. Reminding us that she is flawed with no real agency is a great way to balance the scales


>>2519465

If they do, they do. If they don't, they don't. I'm not saying that the rest of the Mane 6 have to be royalty, but I do want them to matter towards the big story that this show will probably be moving towards in Season 4.

To be honest with you, I would say that a Raw Power Increase matters A WHOLE bunch more than fancy titles that would mean bupkiss if used wrongly.
>> No. 2519473
>>2519471
I like this idea! Especially, if Rarity plays Twilight's role from that episode this time! If that happens my inner RariTwi fanboy will giggle with glee!
>> No. 2519474
>>2519472
I agree. I want them to become stronger power-wise even more than I want the whole royalty thing. How would it be done though?
>> No. 2519475
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>>2519474
RD could master the sonic rainboom and become a wonderbolt. Not sure about the others.
>> No. 2519476
>>2519475
Maybe they could all get teachers like Twilight did? I do hope that Dash becomes a Wonderbolt next season.
>> No. 2519478
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>>2519476
same, or at the very least see the other 5 make some progress towards their aspirations, maybe rarity could open up a canterlot branch of her dress shop!

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>> No. 2519479
>>2519477
I'd like to see an AJ episode that doesn't revolve around her family for once. Just once. Also, maybe Pinkie Pie finally gets some kind of ambition that doesn't involve partying...or maybe she works to become an excellent baker.
>> No. 2519480
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>>2519474

My idea was this. The power of each element of Harmony is dependent on how much the bearer of personifies that element. During Season 4, each of the rest of the Mane 6 go through a test (that isn't Twilight centered, mind you) where they have to understand what it means to the bearer of said element and the responsiblities (both personally good and bad) each element carries. Once the test is passed, each bearer will gain new abilities that both suit and personify the element and personality of the wearer.

Ex: Fluttershy would be attuned to all life, be able to use the natural abilities of other sentient life as her own and her stare would have true psionic properties.

Rarity's Magic (especially her telekinesis) would increase considerably and she could use her natural power well to empower others temporarily.

I'll have to work on the others.
>> No. 2519481
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>>2519479
Bah sorry, was that a reply to my comment that i posted and forgot the pic, deleted and reposted with pic?
>> No. 2519482
>>2519480
This needs to be season 4. Seriously this is the best possible way to do it!

>>2519481
I think so.
>> No. 2519483
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night all, thread has died down, so i'm off.
>> No. 2519485
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Holy shit, this thread is huuuuuge!
>> No. 2519486
>>2519485
Have fun reading
>> No. 2519487
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>>2519486
I have already read most of them before I made that post.
>> No. 2519488
>>2518980

Apparently everyone forgot when Fluttershy was a fashion icon and defined style for a while in Equestria.
>> No. 2519489
The ep was alright. Too bad it ended after 13 minutes...

IT ENDED AFTER THE 13 MINUTE MARK. PRINCESS TWILIGHT DIDN'T HAPPEN
>> No. 2519490
>>2519489

I have to say after watching the episode for the third time, the shock of Twilight's wings has worn off, and it just feels like it was always meant to be. Especially considering the whole scene with Celestia singing and the Season 1-Season 3 slideshow.

And I was one of the supporters of Alicorn Twilight. Still kind of shocks you when you see it.

But ya know what? I can't help but feel happy for her, because she's earned it.
>> No. 2519491
>>2519490
I agree, Twilight becoming an alicorn is what was supposed to happen. But it should have happened in the last episode, and 3x13 wasn't the last episode. Plus it should have been a complete 22-minute episode, not the 10 minute pack we got.
>> No. 2519492
>>2519490
I agree, Twilight becoming an alicorn is what was supposed to happen. But it should have happened in the last episode, and 3x13 wasn't the last episode. Plus it should have been a complete 22-minute episode, not the 10 minute pack we got.
>> No. 2519493
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>>2519148
>E1S4
>small reprise of the reprise song
>camera pans far out from Canterlot
>zooms across the landscape, focusing on the Everfree Forest
>panning through the dark forest, camera focus on a cave
>zoom to the inside of said cave
>suddenly, hundreds of changeling eyes open

That's all I've got.
>> No. 2519494
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>>2519490
TBH, I'm going to ignore "Princess Twilight" until we get to see how it affects the show. I still don't agree with promoting one character to god-status and making her vastly superior to her friends. If they can make it work in S4, fine, but until then, I'm considering it non-canon.
>> No. 2519495
>>2519494

>Happened on the show
>Not canon

Just can't accept it can you?
>> No. 2519496
>>2519495
Maybe he just means he counts it as a kind of non sequitur until it returns as a fact.

...which it will.
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>>2519495
Key word: Considering

Yes, it happened, I'm not denying that, I'm just not accepting it until I'm sure that it won't ruin the show.
>> No. 2519498
>>2519497

Fair enough. I'm sure it won't though.
>> No. 2519499
One view of episode:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rCAfv29g_A
>> No. 2519500
>>2517907
This episode was SO good. A little rushed, yeah. I should have been a two parter.
But the songs ROCKED. Alicorn Twilight is AWESOME.
I can't wait to see what's coing in season 4.
>> No. 2519501
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>>2519417

NO. That's not what we should want at all. We should want the other characters lifted up, not Twilight brought down like the writers were Communists. Giving her a MMDW would only worsen the problem, from how I see it. People who like Twilight would like her less, and people who don't... well, they would just dislike her further. I don't see what good can come from taking a currently controversial character and giving them a controversial episode, it'd only make the controversy worse. The only thing you could accomplish is make the Twilight fans like her less, and that's not very tolerating.

>>2519427

I still think he's a better mage. The reason he couldn't Become, is because he didn't understand friendship, which is more important than the magical prowess. Cadence doesn't seem to be able to do any strong magic that isn't directly related to love, so I don't think magical prowess is even that big a deal over the virtues of the character Becoming.

>>2519479

Pinkie already has something she could focus on more but the writers haven't touched once since their introduction: her with the baby Cakes. Her motherly instinct is very sweet but we haven't seen much of it in favor of "lol randumb" and if they fix her in S4 like they fixed Dash in S3, this could be something that grounds her just a little. I'd also like to see a flashback episode about how Pinkie meets the Cakes; it would probably also heavily involve her family.

I've imagined she starting working under them at a really young age, maybe shortly after getting her cutie mark, and that's why the Cakes treat her like family, because she's been with them longer than their children. I can just see a really heartwarming moment where her family sends her off and we see her adjust to the Cakes through some sentimental bonding moment the writers could come up with much better than me.


And, I know it sounds strange, but I like Applejack with the farm and the family, but I think she needs something more serious. It seems all her problems with either get resolved by the end of the episode she has them, but I think a more serious problem, that wouldn't go away after the episode they introduce it. She is complacent on the farm with her family and probably wouldn't want to do anything that takes her away from either of them. Doing so would be a bit OOC (OOC can happen here because speculation doesn't exist in show canon). They can, however, give her more responsibility within the farm.

The arc I always saw for her was the Apple family having continual crop problems that cut into their already thin profits, leading up to an episode where the crops start improving again, but they don't have the bits at the moment to pay a debt they owe (they borrowed money out of necessity), and the debtor wants to forclose on them. The rest of the episode deals with them being unable to scavenge the funds, and they're about to hand over the farm, when her friends come by, having pooled their own money offscreen to help them out. They have just enough to completely pay off their creditor, and weeks later the crops come in bountifly, and the farm makes up for its lost profits. I've always imagined her arc something similar to that, she risks losing her farm because of bad crops but her friends help her save it.



To anyone who was concerned last night, I feel just fine right now, no worries whatsoever.
>> No. 2519503
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2519503
Ok, so iv'e gone over the episode a couple times and I think i'm starting to warm up to it a bit.

If you ignore the implications of the alicorn thing, the episode itself is quite good, probably one of the best.

The main problem is that they made a huge change to the central character and didn't give anyone a chance to see what comes of it. Now we are forced to wait a long while to get the piece of mind we so desperately need.
>> No. 2519504
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>>2519501

I'm glad someone said this. Yes, I know I said I somewhat agreed with the sentiment and said she needs her Sweet and Elite and the after affects, but you know what? You're absolutely right, Twilight shouldn't have to be written down to lift up the others.

In all cultures, it's easier to nerf than it is to buff, and by doing it in Season 4, it only encourages the cycle for it to continue. I sincerely hope next season buffs up the other members of the Mane 6.

Though I can say that you're not against Twilight having a less than triumphant showing if it leads somewhere, right?

Last edited at Sun, Feb 17th, 2013 09:21

>> No. 2519505
>>2519504

Oh, I am very much against Twilicorn. I still think it's a really bad idea for the show. But, I've seen how ridiculous some of the naysayers have gotten, having Twilight get no episodes next season and everything. I don't want her played up. If she could regress after the S4 opener, I'd be glad. But, one shouldn't just needlessly nerf her to keep balance, when the proper idea is to bring them up to keep balance. So, her having a not very triumphant showing would really depend on what exactly happens.
>> No. 2519506
>>2519505
See, I put to you, how do you take care of that?

I hope I don't have to say why transforming them all into alicorns would make as much sense as every disney character getting mickey mouse masks, so that leaves the whole "do we just act like they are not there, because FRIENDSHIP" or "The Twilight Sparkle show... with some characters in the back".
>> No. 2519507
«One morning, as Gregor Samsa was waking up from anxious dreams, he discovered that in his bed he had been changed into a monstrous verminous bug».
>> No. 2519508
>>2519506

Simple, you handle it the same way you always have, for all this talk of "drastically changing her character" at the end of the day not that much has really changed, she was already a close personal friend of three different princesses, the personal student of one, and sister in law of another, not to mention an element of harmony, so her station isn't really that different seeing as she was already pretty much only one step down from princess. Her friends have to treat her different? How so? We've seen Twilight interact with the princesses the same as any other friend, hay, she greets Cadence by waving her plot at her.
>> No. 2519509
>>2519508
So... your response is that the change should have no effect?
>> No. 2519510
>>2519509

No, the change should have minimal effect outside of episodes about her, episodes actually about her you take full advantage of the lessons that become available, for example "Just because your friend gets promoted doesn't mean you need to treat them any different." which I guarantee will be in season 4.
>> No. 2519511
>>2519506

I don't necessarily mean turning all the characters into alicorns (I don't really like Mickey Mouse anyway).


I mean more of, give them their own responsibilities and arcs (just like Teen Titans). Rainbow Dash already has her Wonderbolt dream and Rarity wants to be the top designer in Equestria, so the writers just have to work with that. If they wanted, they could do one of the arcs in the first thirteen episodes of next season (because an arc is only a fraction of that amount, it would be spread out like Twilicorn's arc), and the other in the latter half.

I came up with an idea for Pinkie's and Applejack's arcs in >>2519501 if you want to look at that.


Fluttershy is the only one for whom I can't think of a good-sounding arc, ironically. We'd need to see something else about her life or backstory shown, because I'd rather not have an arc based on her shyness, I feel that topic has been worn down too much to be entertaining.
>> No. 2519513
>>2519510
? So yes, but with technicalities attached, because you are essentially saying "the stories won't be affected, as long as she is not there", which kind of defeats the purpose.

>>2519511
Her time in the keeping silent competition?
>> No. 2519514
>>2519513

And how does that defeat the purpose? Why should Twilight being an alicorn, unicorn, or Unicron matter in an episode that's not about her? And I never said she had to be absent, where is it written a princess can't take a day to just hang out with her friends? Hell, balancing new responsibilities and friendships is probably another lesson we're going to see in season 4.
>> No. 2519515
>>2519513
The stories shouldn't be affected even if she is there. It's only Twilight's own stories that would really be affected.
>> No. 2519516
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>>2519515

Precisely.
>> No. 2519517
Something else that really bugged me was the palette swap Fluttershy extras. That really devalues the actual character's design and just reinforces that the mane 5 are becoming throwaway characters. It's also lazy, much like most of this episode was.
>> No. 2519518
>>2519517

>Ignoring the fact there have been Rainbow Dash recolours ever since season one.
>> No. 2519519
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>>2519517
This isn't exactly the first time they took the model of the mane six and just edited them.
>> No. 2519520
>>2519518
>>2519519
This was far more blatant, and there were several of her in a cluster, like those turquoise ponies in the S1 finale.
>> No. 2519521
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>>2519505

Agreed. I went off on a naysayer yesterday because of how ridiculous that side has gotten. Both sides have their terrible people and I think yesterday exposed that for everyone to see.

>>2519506
Don't take too much offense to this (if you're said anon from the RIP Twilight Sparkle Thread, I apologize for going off on you), but I can't help but think that you're thinking too 2-dimensionally and in the worst possible ways. Don't you think that this could possibly not be an either or situation, even if you're like me and place little faith in McCarthy from events transpired?

On one hand, you could have the series become a Equestria-wide adventure show where everyone is exposed to a world they never knew. A story that would have the Mane 6 beyond Twilight being spotlighted and lives being changed from that exposure.

On another hand you could have the Mane 6 Grow Up and adjust more into their chosen roles in life. You could move the slice of life show in the next phase and continue the character development we saw through Season 1.

I know the 2nd idea isn't as well thought out, but the point I'm trying to make is that there are other scenarios out there, ways this could work. This isn't the best thing to happen to the series, but it could be.
>> No. 2519522
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>>2519513
They could actually do a lot with flutters if they wanted to, some backstory for her is long overdue, maybe there is a reason why she became so shy in the first place (though that's probably a stretch) , we could dive into her family, or we could take a look back @ her time in jr. flight camp
>> No. 2519523
>>2519520

How can one recolour be more blatant than another? Because they're front and centre? Dərpy's been front and centre on multiple occasions and she's nothing but a recoloured Dash. And being several of them, big deal, I've never heard complaints about the guards all looking alike.
>> No. 2519524
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Let's have at some ideas for character development in S4.

>Pinkie Pie
For the element of laughter she sure has a depressing family situation, making up with them could be an interesting story.

Now that's all I got for now, will return if I figure out more.
*edit* actually most of the protagonists family situations remain unexplored*

Last edited at Sun, Feb 17th, 2013 12:42

>> No. 2519525
>>2519480
Also is that pic Mrs.Clench from Samurai Jack: the good the bad and the beautiful?
>> No. 2519526
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>>2519524
I like the idea of family episodes too, AJs has been done to death but fluttershy's family hasn't even been mentioned, or even implied, and we didn't know rainbow dash had anything until GPP, maybe we could do those together with some cloudsdale reunion kindof thing.
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>>2519525

Yes. Yes it is.
>> No. 2519528
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>>2519526

Ooh, I just thought of an episode idea!


Going off your idea, a Flight Camp reunion. It would switch from present day, when Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy are catching up with various classmates, to flashbacks where we see some important aspects. We could see how Fluttershy and Dash met and became friends (unless her sticking up for Fluttershy in Cutie Mark Chronicles was their first interaction), we could see their parents in flashback, we could even see how Gilda came into the picture and what made her such a good friend back then, and if we're lucky we could see Dash and Gilda make up. Gilda's appearance would be much more natural here than Trixie's revenge scheme, preventing any contrivedness, and it would only be a part of the plot rather than the whole plot. It would probably be a bit bottled, since the rest of the mane six wouldn't come with them to the reunion, but there's nothing wrong with a smaller cast for an episode.

Thoughts? Anyone else want to see a flight camp episode? Anything you'd change?
>> No. 2519529
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>>2519528
I love it!
>> No. 2519530
Anyways, I knew this scene was familiar
boards.4chan.org/mlp/res/8335624
>> No. 2519531
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>>2519530
Haha, woooooow. Which HP movie is that from? I wanna compare.
>> No. 2519532
>>2519531
7 pt.2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM3dRKpRots
>> No. 2519533
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>>2519528
Indeed an excellent idea, and to think I had all but forgotten about Gilda.

I do think that a smaller cast for some of the episodes would be great, more focus less unquestioned friendship, and it would be a natural stage in which to see more of their parents.

Also none of the main cast has a relationship, which would be a golden opportunity to delve into their character and moral questions as well.

>>2519527
I love it, one of my favorite Samurai Jack episodes.
>> No. 2519534
>>2519490
As long as the rest of the mane six get something for all they've done.

>>2519528
I like this idea!
>> No. 2519535
>>2519528
I love it as well
>> No. 2519536
Does anyone else feel like Season 3 has been a whole season full of squandered possibilities? Or is that just me being paranoid?
>> No. 2519537
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>>2519536
You paranoid bro! S3 was fantastic!
>> No. 2519538
>>2519536
A lot of people do...I am not one of them, but I know many who agree
>> No. 2519539
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>>2519536
Perhaps not squandered, but I'd say there has been a lot more fan-pandering than I would like to see.
>> No. 2519540
>>2519539
> fan-pandering
Aaaaaand argument invalid.
>> No. 2519541
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>>2519539
Fan pandering? What? There was barely any.

>inb4 Magic Duel
>inb4 KCAFO
Both of those were not pandering.
>> No. 2519542
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'Alicorn' is sort of fan panda ring.

In that they had another word for it back in the day, but the fan word replaced their own backstage lexicorn.
>> No. 2519543
>>2519539
The only episode that could POSSIBLY be pandering was KCAFO. And it really wasnt if you follow the path it took. It was much different than it was when the kid helped on the idea
>> No. 2519544
It's such a drastic change that to handle Twilight's change in an interesting and dramatic manner, and to keep our characters 3-dimensional, likeable, and able to relate to, would require dark storylines that I don't think Hasbro is willing to do for the show.

The show often doesn't handle dark storylines very well, and to handle this in a tactful manner would require some dark and depressing stuff. Few want internal fighting amongst the element holders, depression, and self-hatred.

Yes this could be handled really well, yes I think the target demographic could understand, yes I think there is a major friendship lesson here, but I think this is too dramatic of a change than what Hasbro would allow for MLP
>> No. 2519545
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>>2519542
So they're using a word for winged unicorns that was not invented by fans, only commonly used by them...and the thing they're referring to is very uncommon in fiction, and already had multiple terms before the show existed?

Oh noes, panda rings.
>> No. 2519546
>>2519544
I dunno, it worked back in S1's writing with RoH (I know its S2 but it was written during S1.) I think it could work
>> No. 2519547
>>2519546
They were forced to hate each other by Discord, it was played more as a joke and not as serious. It won't be pleasant for the other element holders to acknowledge Twilight's superiority to them, and it won't necessarily be the best idea for the moral to be to suck it up.
>> No. 2519548
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>>2519541
Not saying there was a lot, just more than I find enjoyable.
Sure a nod to the fandom is appreciated but I feel that it has been too much in S3.
Not only complete episodes but the small things as well.

>>2519542
What were they using before?

>>2519544
If they did make it darker in that respect I would be very excited indeed.
>> No. 2519549
>>2519547
I dunno, I took it as pretty serious.

I didn't think you meant that tho, I thought you were talking about infighting. Anyways, I think they could handle it with it being more adventure oriented with twilight learning to handle various aspects of princesshood that are do to travel and power.

>>2519548
But I literally can't think of a single fan pandering moment....want to clarify? I can see tons in S2 that could be taken as such in the animation, but hardly any here.
>> No. 2519550
>>2519548
Meghan used pegacorn, though they were still referred to as unicorns in the episodes before season 3.
>> No. 2519551
Ahem. I liked it. That is all.
>> No. 2519552
honestly, who would read this thread?
>> No. 2519553
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>>2519541
>>2519545

>That disgusting feel when you have to say your arch nemesis is aboslutely 100% completely right.
>> No. 2519554
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>>2519552

I read through it all, though in fairness I've posted through most of it.
>> No. 2519555
>>2519552
I did, but only because I followed it the whole way

I dont think my browser could handle it as a whole without going +50.html
>> No. 2519556
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>>2519549
I just scanned through most of S3 and except for what >>2519541
mentioned all I saw was a slight tip of the old hat in "Too many Pinkie Pie's" you are absolutely right, I confused S3 and S2 sorry honest mistake.
I haven't been watching regularly so that's probably why I done goofed.
>> No. 2519557
>>2519548
>>2519549
I'm talking about shit like some her friends becoming resentful or antagonistic towards her, or ponyville's residents behaving awkwardly.

Twilight becoming moody and depressed because being a princess has changed her friendships for the worst, and her friends becoming angry when her uberpowerful magic is solving too many of her friends' problems, and they find it condescending that she tries to lower herself to their level.
>> No. 2519558
>>2519557
But why? Wouldn't that contradict what they did in boast busters. I really dont think their friendships are like that. I do think
>They find it condescending that she tries to lower herself to their level.
Could be an issue, but I don't think they'd be annoyed with her before this happens
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>>2519557
Interesting, her mcguffin power being the source of the problem (ie having a problem she can't just magic her way out of)
You sir have my interest.
>> No. 2519560
>>2519559
This is what i say leads to resentment amongst her friends

And i am not saying her close friends, I'm talking about various ponies in ponyville who are uneasy with her unchanging demeanor, saying calling her a patronizing jerk. Do you want an episode where Twilight breaks down crying because so many of her PonyVille friends hate her.
>> No. 2519561
>>2519557
Hell do you think Hasbro would allow Twilight to undergo negative character development? Becoming a far more timid and cowardly out of fears of becoming egotistical and selfish to offset the overly positive change in her life?
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>>2519560
Well, saying I'd love that would make me sound like a major league douche but some emotional turmoil would be interesting and a very interesting exploration of their personalities as well as some of the heavier aspects of life.
>> No. 2519563
>>2519560
>>2519561
I think it could happen...I really dont think hasbro has that high level of control over seasons as a whole or really cares that much
>> No. 2519564
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>>2519561
They allowed MMDW and OWTEW, so negative character development isn't out of the question, then again this is the super special main character we are talking about.
>> No. 2519565
>>2519564
LZ. Debunked.
Also, both episodes you cited are shite.
>> No. 2519566
>>2519563
This is the shit I would imagine, suggesting that maybe she is not as much of an expert of friendship was she thought or finding out how unprepared she really is
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>>2519565
i know, i hate both those episodes with a passion, why do you think my face is so disapproving in my post image?

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>> No. 2519569
I was deeply upset when twilight got her wings (My exact thoughts while watching the episode were; "Please don't give twilight wings. Please don't give twilight wings. Please don't give twilight wings. FUUUUUUU~") Currently just hoping season 4 starts out with that being a dream twilight had and she is waking up from it.

Twilight being an alicorn completely throws the balance of the show off, as there are now 3 winged ponies, 2 horned ponies, and 2 earth ponies.

Here's hoping there is a workaround for this twist. Your humble brony, RoboSamurai
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>>2519569

OH NO HOW WILL WE EVER SURVIVE IF THERE'S MORE OF ONE KIND OF PONY THAN ANOTHER IN THE SHOW IT'S HORRIBLE HOW COULD YOU DO THIS HASBRO!
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>>2519569
annihilation
this is my vice, I am sorry.
>> No. 2519572
>>2519571
and this is why I'm failing english xD
>> No. 2519573
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>>2519572

It's quite alright, don't worry, your post was perfectly readable. That misspelling was the only error I noticed in your post, you have nothing about which to be concerned.

Unless you start saying "irregardless." Then I would have to kill you.
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>>2519573

Irregardless of the reason?
>> No. 2519575
Other than the symmetrical novelty of having 2 of each kind of pony in the mane 6 being gone. I loved the season finale. I just hope that this is not the last season for the show.
>> No. 2519576
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>>2519575
It won't be, I'm pretty sure they have already been payed for a season 4
>> No. 2519577
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>>2519575
This is only the beginning.
>> No. 2519578
>>2519577
well, this is obvious. just what it was kind the continuation of cadence at the beggining of season 3, you thought everyone was going to forget inmediatly all about princess twilight?
>> No. 2519579
>>2519578
I was responding to how Brown didn't know if there was going to be a fourth season at all.

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>> No. 2519580
That was weird.
>> No. 2519581
>>2519544
I think this post has a point well beyond the 'dark' nature of things.

Put the idea of 'dark and mature' subjects aside and just consider the fact that all the implications of the last episode's events would require serious, extended narrative attention and time to explore and properly resolve. This is the beginning of an arc plot. And that is something I honestly do not see this show being capable of doing.

Especially not after season 3's opening story seemed like such a perfect set-up for precisely such an arc that, ultimately, failed to materialize in any way.
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By the way, my thoughts on the episode (kind of spoiler free):

http://ponyconfessionscommentary.tumblr.com/post/43382089125/i-have-only-one-excuse-for-the-writing-20-minutes
http://ponyconfessionscommentary.tumblr.com/post/43350499460/its-a-show-for-girls
>> No. 2519583
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Well this episode may have been better if Twilight sacrificed her self useing the Elements of Harmony to restore her friends cutie marks. Then the rest of the mane 6 plus Spike said/showed how much they loved her. the Elements picked that up makking twilight come back as a ailcorn.

Then i see this makking me feel bad for bashing this episode.
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>>2519581
I'm not entirely sure dark themes are out of the question, in a lot of the children's shows members or previous members of the team were involved in got pretty intense at times, both fosters and the power puff girls could get pretty dark at times if i remember correctly (i haven't seen those since i was a kid), so I'm not going to dismiss it as a possibility, though that ship could have easily sailed when Lauren left, but I'm not writing it off just yet.
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Test: TCE

Edit: Here you go guys, most Season 3 episodes have been abbreviated (Some, like Magic Duel, can't be abbreviated because the logical abbreviation [MD] is both easy to figure out and used for other things, such as 'Medical Doctor'.)
>> No. 2519586
I gotta admit, it was kind of funny that Celestia didn't even ask Twilight whether she'd like to become a princess or not. She just told her that she's ready for something and then glued the wings on.

What if Twilight said that she doesn't like being an alicorn or a princess after the transformation? Awkwarrrrrrd?
>> No. 2519587
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There was one quote that made me rethink everything about magic in Equestria.

"From one to another, another to one. A mark of one's destiny singled out alone, fulfilled. That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't even rhyme!"

Equestria and all of its magic are fueled by rhyming. Ponies are constantly breaking out into song in order to fill the power deposit of their land. Unicorn horns are able to actively manipulate rhyme power, while earth ponies and pegasisisis only have passive affects on the land and the weather. Zecora is constantly rhyming because she lives in the Everfree Forest, and she can't always draw from the rhyming supply of Equestria. Pinkie Pie, thanks to her mad skills, can actually travel across the Equestrian range of rhyming radiation to pull off her antics.

But then why did Starswirl's incomplete spell still do something? It was the book. If a recorded incantation in a magic book is spoken aloud, it activates, and that spell becomes one with the land. Starswirl was just taking notes and looking for a way to make it rhyme. He probably just had a case of writer's block... or he was leaving a trial for the pony that would succeed him. Celestia fulfilled Starswirl's wishes and carefully began to mold a pony into continuing his work. Maybe there were failed prototypes, like Sombra...

But anyways, yeah. Rhyming is literally magic.
>> No. 2519588
>>2519587

Or maybe rhyming is just a convention, kinda like centering equations and drawing QED's on your math proofs. What's important is the math proof itself. I hypothesize that the incantation simply helps some other instruction inside the book for magic manipulation.

(I'm still waiting on that particle theory of magic)
>> No. 2519589
>>2519588
Magic runs on belief, to a significant degree.

It's also a whole lot more complicated than that, but a big chunk of how magic works is psychological. Having rituals and incantations and structures for the caster to adhere to help to focus and manipulate the various redistribution of energy involved.
>> No. 2519591
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Something actually changed for the better,over the course of this season,We can finally see this show progress in one direction,instead of going in circles
>> No. 2519592
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>>2519591

>implying change is always change for the better
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>>2519592

As I mentioned here:

>>2519582

Whether or not this is a good change depends on how the writers use it. And I'm pretty sure that not a single person here would be watching the show if it weren't for the fact that the writers can turn change like this into change for the better.
>> No. 2519594
>>2519221
Yes, a kid. A kid that wouldn't have made the mistakes he did. Give him mistakes to do that doesn't compromise his very personality.
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Saw this on Dərpibooru. I have to admit, that is awesome. Well done MLP team.
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>>2519595
Not bad.

Heh, I just found out that the scorch mark that appeared when Twilight was zapped away was in the shape of her cutie mark.
>> No. 2519597
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>> No. 2519598
I felt so confused watching this episode. I had too many questions.

Why do Ponyvillians just go along with a musical if they don't know the words?
What will happen after Twilight becomes a princess?
Will she rule Equestria and make her friends duchesses?
Will the other Mane 5 make their own countries and go to war with each other?
What was that space place?
Will Twilight be able to live a normal life in Ponyville as she did for almost 3 years now?
Was the coronation a reference to Queen Elizabeth II's coronation like the Royal Wedding referenced to the marriage of Prince William and Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge?
If so, is Equestria ENGLAND?
>> No. 2519599
>>2519598
Poverty is the answer to each question.
>> No. 2519600
Ok, Am I the only one who's annoyed that we're going to get an even longer break than the last one, now that the season ended over two months earlier than the last?
>> No. 2519601
>>2519600
With any luck, season 4 might start two months earlier.
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I only have two things to note about this episode:

One; it showed how spells are recorded such that one can learn them by looking at scrolls and how they can be written down as well. This voids an entire system of leylines and leynodes that I and many other fan fiction writers spent hours coming up with for our writing.

Two; Twilight learned how to fly with those wings pretty damn fast!
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>>2519598
I just assume that the space place is a spell that Celestia came up with in order to keep an eye on Twilight. It explains how she was able to know about Twilight's behavior in Lesson Zero.
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>>2519603
Actually no-

>"Your friend Spike told me"
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>>2519604
... LIES! IT WAS ALL LIES shuddup.
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>>2519602
>it showed how spells are recorded such that one can learn them by looking at scrolls and how they can be written down as well

To be fair, we've had scrolls and such in previous episodes. It's About Time, for example, had Twilight hunting down a spell to stop time, and ended up with her having one to go back in time.

The show's always been kinda murky about learnable magic. Boast Busters would have you believe that Twilight is special because her talent is in learning all sorts of magic and being a magical nexus of unfathomable depths or whatever, but then Cutie Mark Chronicles establishes that she went to a school which, presumably, is for teaching unicorns magic.
>> No. 2519607
>>2519606
One thing does not rule out the other. She might as well have learned basic and advanced unicorn spells (like object manipulations of all sorts) at school while her "15 different tricks and counting" are special spells going beyond that, something you don't learn at school.

What's interesting is if unicorns automatically cast the spell when they speak it out loudly when reading from a scroll or out of a book or if they still have to "cast" it as a separate process.
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Just realized that the dress Rarity made in True, True Friend is the one she wore to the coronation.
>> No. 2519609
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I have one, really, really major problem with this episode. Pardon me if it was discussed already, but this thread is already monstrous.

Now, Twilight says that she accidentally rewrote her friends' destinies. She even goes so far as to shoot down Spike's suggestion that she use the memory spell, since she said that their true selves had been rewritten, not their memories. So, here's my problem:

Why were they bad at their jobs?

Think about it. If their destinies had been rewritten, that would mean that their talents really were reflected by the new cutie marks. They had entirely new pasts now wherein they discovered their talents and got their marks because of it. And when Twilight had them try to do their old jobs, they suddenly find that they're good at them, causing their marks to change back. Except that makes no sense, since if their destinies had been rewritten, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THEIR OLD TALENTS ANYMORE.

So, that's what bugs me so much about this story (aside from the other things, like getting two of their talents outright wrong and the transformation having nothing to do with solving the central conflict of the episode). Larson tells us that this isn't a case of memories being rewritten, then goes ahead and treats it like it's a case of their memories being rewritten. It's like he didn't understand the basic concept of his own script.

ARGGHH! So frustrating...
>> No. 2519610
>>2519609
My interpretation: the ponies' pasts were rewritten to have them more influenced by their new cutie marks. They never had the special talent, but the cutie mark directly influenced the choices they made in their life leading up to the present day.

As for why they got the cutie marks in the first place if they didn't have the talent? I attribute that to the unfinished nature of the spell and the specialness of a pony's cutie mark. Like putting a cube in a round hole, the cutie marks were essentially forced onto ponies who were never meant to have them, rather than actually earning them the way they're supposed to, with the end result being an incomplete pony, one who is compelled to a destiny that they have no actual talent or actual interest in.
>> No. 2519611
>>2519609
You expect an unfinished, abandoned spell to work perfectly?
>> No. 2519612
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>>2519611
No, but I expect the script to maintain its own internal logic. I don't think that this one did.
>> No. 2519613
>>2519609
I agree with you. When we break down to what was changed it all comes down to simply memory.

Their talents were unchanged but their memories altered - or maybe rather switched and mangled with that of the other pony.

It's also not like the past changed because it didn't change for all the other ponies - not for Twilight and the rest of Ponyville knew Pinkie was the one making them happy.

What bothers me more though is what Starswirl attemped with his spell anyway? And what did Twilight attempt with her corrected version of the spell? Certainly not being zapped away to memory lane and becoming a princess.
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I liked everything and disliked nothing.
>> No. 2519615
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>>2519613

Yeah, that's another problem I had with this script. Twilight has this broken, unfinished spell dumped into her lap and it turns out to be one for switching the cutie marks of one pony to another. Then she comes up with a "finished" spell whose purpose was... Hold on...

Starswirl's spell:

"From one to another,
another to one.
A mark of one's destiny
singled out alone is fulfilled."

Twilight's version:

"From all of us together,
together, we're friends.
With the marks of our destinies made one,
there's magic without end"

Okay, there's actually no problem with this. Starswirl was trying to to combine destinies from several others into one grand destiny. Twilight's takes the concept and just invokes the magic of friendship so that (I guess) it asks each friend for the power to fulfill a grand destiny, rather than trying to just grab power from individuals and mash it together into a new destiny. Twilight's spell could be seen as a culmination of all she's learned about how your friends make you more than you are alone.

On that point, kudos to Mitch Larson. That's a great little detail. I still wish that it hadn't looked like Twilight had accidentally turned herself into an alicorn, and I wish there'd been some hint of trepidation about the change.
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>>2519615

And apparently it worked, because Celestia said Twilicorn has all the traits of her friends despite us not seeing some of them, like Charity, and others being contradicted by this episode alone; she was not optimistic, she knew and didn't try to kid herself that she ruined her friends' lives; that's not optimism, it's realism, and the two just don't appear together.

Twilicorn absorbed her friends' virtues so she wouldn't even have to learn them.
>> No. 2519618
>>2519616
...Oooor it could be that Celestia is grossly overestimating Twilight, and that will come into play later.
...Celestia character development, people, make it happen.
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>>2519616

I don't know about that. Twilight has shown us those aspects of herself at other times. She was the last one to lose hope in "Return of Harmony" and the first to regain it, so I'd argue she is a natural optimist. We've seen her constantly running around Ponyville, volunteering for things like the Hay Board and wanting to really help with Winter Wrap Up, so she's definitely charitable. She's also honest, absolutely loyal to her friends, and has a naturally kind disposition. So, yeah, Twilight definitely has all of those traits.

Just because she got upset with herself over what she accidentally did, she didn't give up hope or decide she couldn't fix it. She still knew she could do it and found another way to do it. I'd argue that's definitely optimism.
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>>2519619

Hmm, perhaps it was just the wording that upset me then. I don't like the way it's said, "You have all the virtues supposed to be represented by your friends." It kinda underplays the rest of the cast, you know? Saying it closer to "you and your friends have taught each other [virtues]" would have been wording. It's a similar problem to the argument a couple days ago that Twilight was able to Become because she was now a true friend; that argument had the flaw that it implied the others were not true friends.

Though I cite SAYS for a recent episode featuring Twilight not being loyal, abandoning her surrogate child when Timberwolves come around.


>>2519618

I'd be okay with that. Celestia being wrong about Twilight's Becoming may lead to reversing the change.
>> No. 2519621
>>2519619
Was that the episode where all her firends, but her, got mindraped?
>> No. 2519622
>>2519620

Well Dash also abandoned all her friends in the same manner, despite supposedly embodying the element of loyalty itself. Don't read too hard into a bunch of ponies running scared in the heat of the moment
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>>2519622
You mean back in RoH, the episode where everyone was being exactly the opposite of their element because of mind control?

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(I haven't the mind to go through this entire thread, so forgive me if some of this has already been stated.)

While I liked the episode and the basis of it, I feel it was too rushed. I can't blame Hasbro too harshly for it, because I think it was said it was written before they realized there was going to be a fourth season?

Twilight as an alicorn is still strange, and I do wish there had been more build-up to it, but for condensing everything into one episode, it was decent. Probably on the higher side of the middle tier for me (the songs really help my opinion of it). I particularly like the end part of A True, True Friend when Pinkie returns to normal and all the townspeople are overjoyed.

Not keen on the Princesses' fashion at the end during the coronation. It looked rather out of place to me. And was Cadence's hair up in that royal look we saw in the Olympics episode again (and when Shining Armor talks about liquid pride, it's down again? It might be me imagining things though.)
>> No. 2519625
>>2519624
my dare
>> No. 2519626
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Thinking back, the writers should have sent that journal to Twilight immediately after TCE and just had it as a background thing she was working on this season. Then they could have sprung the botched spell and it all wouldn't have felt quite so crammed in there. They could have made finding your destiny the main theme of this season and then explored the subject in more than one episode, so that the question would have been in the air leading up to MMC.

Bleah. They should have done a lot of things.
>> No. 2519627
>>2519626
This. All of my this.

This season at first glance seemed to me like it would be The Season Of Arc Plot. It turned out all those little foreshadowing nods and building continuity boiled down to a couple throwaway shots and nothing really materialized. Almost like the show got distracted and forgot about its own narrative.
>> No. 2519628
>>2519626
>>2519627
Make it all a series of unfinished spell's by star swirl, slowly make it a background thing as she makes it through it, and then, bam, last spell comes naturally into the picture as she grows from it.

That said, hindsight and not being on a time schedule is a superpower we all have, and not actually having to pull it off is yet another skill on our repertoire.

I mention that so we remember to have a bit of perspective: I might have really dislike the episodes as half-baked and poorly thought out, but we aren't really sure if they had to write all of these in ridiculously small time frames, or if Hasbro decided to do the Writer's Hunger Games while still making them work. We might criticize the works, but remember to not criticize the makers themselves.
>> No. 2519630
>>2519628
Time schedules and hindsight aren't what caused this.

The only reason there isn't a proper over-arcing narrative in place is because the executive body don't like the idea of having a 'show for little girls' do something 'complicated' like continuity.
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>>2519630
I've hear it actually has more to do with the international airings. They're not as likely to get or air the episodes in the proper order.
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>>2519631
Why...wouldn't they? That has never made sense to me.

"These episodes were aired in THIS order on its native channel, but LOL screw that we're gonna make shit up and throw the episodes into a randomizer before we air!!!"
>> No. 2519633
>>2519632
Per episode license prices, specific local celebrations, local customs and censoring, and the list goes on.
>> No. 2519634
>>2519633
>Per episode license prices
Seems like they would buy the ones that "matter" then, or buy from the beginning...or something.

>specific local celebrations, local customs and censoring
Different celebrations, sure, but why would they need to cater to how many different customs/airing practices that exist? To some extent, I can understand wanting to maximize every broadcast station that would want to buy it, but it seems like if it is at the level that "there can be absolutely no continuity between episode" is mandated because a couple of countries want to be dumb... idgi!
>> No. 2519635
>>2519634
Why would they be dumb, exactly?
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>>2519635
Dumb being synonymous with "more strict" or "different" in this case~
>> No. 2519637
>>2519636
Ok then, let me just record your name... done.
>> No. 2519638
>>2519626

Good idea. They wouldn't have even needed to change any of the episode plots.

TMPP: The Apples-to-Oranges spell was one of Starswirl's hardest spells and Twilight was working on performing it.

MD: Same; a trick by Starswirl (though the animation may have had to change to look like more than levitation).

SAYS: Twilight is deciphering some of his writings.



You didn't change anything that happened in those episodes but now the arc in the season reaches through the whole season. Then Twilight suddenly working on Starswirl's final spell wouldn't be sudden; it would be a big step in her academic studies.


This would also provide a better contrast from the season to MMC, let me explain:


In CE Twilight did not give a flying feather about her friends, as I have said again and again. It's part of why I hate the episode so much. However, if Twilight was more pre-ocupied with her studies the whole season, then gets the last spell and ruins her friends' lives, and then has her emotional breakdown, it would be much better than the simple guilt (which was good); it was a realization of her taking her friends for granted and not spending the proper time with them (for the whole season rather than CE; it could've been a backwards character development and it would have also made her less perfect this season). The development of "I'm a true true friend!" would have been less contrived if we saw her being written deliberately to not be so this season, rather than only CE.


I really like your idea; shame it had to come in hindsight.
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>>2519638
>mine countenance whereupon I posted this with more details an everyone ignore it
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>>2519639

Can you link me to your post? I'm afraid I also didn't notice it, my apologies.
>> No. 2519641
>>2519640
It was an old post, probably long gone by now. It just hit me I essentially bitched about how presenting the book and not doing anything with it through the season was retarded, and developed the Twilight studies Star Swirl magic and made a bunch of notes of how to introduce it into the current plots.

Then alicorn twilight happened, and I got busy wondering what the hay was that, but now that I read your post I remember that thing I wrote before this mess began and how most people just went back to discussing how Discord being reformed made perfect sense and Twilight pulling spells out of the writer's collective flank was perfectly normal.

I guess what I'm saying is that the idea wasn't so much as hindsight but rather that the writers didn't actively pursue it. Hell, if one bloke who can't write to save his life thought of an easy way to get the whole notion of "Twilight is learning more advance magic in a way which isn't cryptic as fuck" then they should have, too.

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>> No. 2519642
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This episode was literally Hitler. Absolute garbage. Done with the show forever.
>> No. 2519643
>>2519642

Bye. Take you negativity with you.
>> No. 2519644
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Funny you should say that~

>>2519643

GODDAMN THIS IS WHY I HATE THE FINALE

This show was about friendship and appreciation of everyone.
Now everyone's telling everyone who isn't part of their "The finale was AWESOME!!!" jerklecerk.

I've always seen bad episodes bring out the worst in people. But even MMDW didn't have everyone going "Bye thanks for the memories!"

So much for kindness and understanding. Oh wait, they're sappy concepts that no one cares about~
>> No. 2519645
>>2519644
Because I seriously have to wonder just how brittle your love for ponies is if wings on Twilight is all that it takes to make you give up on the show forever.
Specially when you compare the finale to one of the most brutal mass murderers in history.
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>>2519645
>just how brittle your love for ponies is

So we're valuing people by how avidly they lap up the show?
I'm not gonna love whatever shit the show throws at me. Yet I'm demonised for this. Demonised for loving the show in the first place.

If this show had been "The Adventures of a Special Unicorn and her Consorts" I wouldn't have come here. But since this show used to be "The Days and Adventures of Six Wonderful Friends" I'm here now. Maybe I'm on the wrong site~? But that's where I heard the ponies were. And I wanted to discuss the lives of all six of these ponies. Not just Twilight Sparkle. I'm sorry if that's so criminal.
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>>2519645
>just how brittle your love for ponies is

So we're valuing people by how avidly they lap up the show?
I'm not gonna love whatever shit the show throws at me. Yet I'm demonised for this. Demonised for loving the show in the first place.

If this show had been "The Adventures of a Special Unicorn and her Consorts" I wouldn't have come here. But since this show used to be "The Days and Adventures of Six Wonderful Friends" I'm here now. Maybe I'm on the wrong site~? But that's where I heard the ponies were. And I wanted to discuss the lives of all six of these ponies. Not just Twilight Sparkle. I'm sorry if that's so criminal.
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>>2519642

Please stay, person I don't know. Ingram said Season 4 is going to be awesome.


But yeah, it seems that all the "don't go before you see the episode" people have completely switched teams, and now it's the ones that don't like Twilicorn trying to keep people here. It's ironic, a bit.
>> No. 2519649
rebuilding thread
>> No. 2519650
>>2519646
Oh for the love of- Can you stop with the victimization shit? That gets on my nerves more than the negative doom saying.
I'm not demonizint, or shunning you for hating the big change, a lot of people didn't, that's fine with me, it IS a big change, and it can seriously affect the dynamics of the show.
What pisses me off is just how utterly fucking negative people are being about this, they're declaring that the show is dead, that they're pissing on Faust's vision, that Hasbro now holds full control and will plunge the show right into browntown.
People... for fuck sake, the producers have toiled away for years to give you countless hours of entertainment, something that a good chunk of us enjoyed for absolutely free, and most of that time was indeed, very fun. This show has allowed us to find eachother, to improve ourselves, this show has given us so much despite it's simple nature.
I'm not asking for you to bend over and accept Twilight's big throbbing horn, I'm just asking that you, after so much time and fun, to give the producers some fucking faith in their skills, specially after they have gone out of their way to vocally reassure us that everything is going to be fine, that they got this.
So please, hold off your complete depression at least until S4 airs, if that turns to shit, then you can claim that the show is dead, but until then, PUT SOME FAITH IN THE CREATORS THAT MADE THIS VERY FANDOM POSSIBLE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Thank you.
>> No. 2519651
>>2519646

Then discuss all the six friends and how much you like them instead of complaining about one of them. Seems like the only one who's stopping you from "discussing the lives of all six of these ponies" and enjoying it is yourself.
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>>2519650
This post.
441? Can I have your babies?

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>> No. 2519653
>>2519651
Quite true. I have to say, I don't know why is anyone taking a Hitler comment seriously, and I'm pretty sure the poster of that is laughing at all of us right now for taking so seriously.
>> No. 2519654
>>2519652
No, because 1.My name is 441, and 2.That strut across that Plutonium vat made that impossible.
>> No. 2519655
>>2519650
Ehh...

Do you have faith on the drunken alcoholic who is trying to change his life around? Do you still keep thinking how he can easily fall back into his old habits, hurting you and himself as he can't help his own mistakes, even if he thought he was being sincere before?

I have no faith in the producers, because faith is for gods. I, currently, only trust them to try their best to make sure they don't fuck it up. I personally don't think what we will get will blow my mind or justify a lot of things, but I don't think they are getting into their bunker and planning what is the best way to fuck themselves over.

All the gloom and the doom? People have seen where the show has been going and are currently seeing the failures of the past generation starting to get shape. Something they cared for all this time is being warped by the same people who they are supposed to trust, and they aren't sure they like that.

So please, people's anger might get on your nerve, but they have their valid reasons.
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>>2519654
... the text had a slow down... Does this happen often?
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>>2519644
If ANYBODY tells you to leave, then I will not let that happen. We don't need that and I personally would hate to see you leave

I hope I don't get put into that category tho.

>>2519647
But I do think this was a mischaracterization of 441. He just cares for board atmosphere a lot. I don't think he is attacking you, but the way the board feels when people talk negatively about the show.

I HOPE we have the right to criticize the show on a show discussion board.
>> No. 2519658
YEah, it happens, I just have to do this to fix it
>> No. 2519659
>>2519655
>Do you have faith on the drunken alcoholic who is trying to change his life around?
what the fuck kind of comparison is that?
>> No. 2519660
>>2519659
A comparison brought from personal experience with alcoholism?
>> No. 2519661
>>2519650
and yeah, so much this.
also, i get the feeling people are expecting...well, not too much, but...i dunno what they expect.
>> No. 2519662
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>>2519650

I agree with you on some points and disagree on others.

There are people who perfectly calmly stated their disapproval, and I've seen them get the exact same treatment by Twilicorn admirers. It seems they lump any negativity with "This episode was Hitler."

On that note, there are people who will be less than polite. However, if you are to be the better man you should try and reassure them that it isn't the end of the world. If you tell them that their gloom is well-founded and they should indeed leave (I've been told that I should leave without even saying I was considering leaving, some posters are that quick to say so), then you not only are accepting their belief that the show is bad, you're going against the values set by this show. This show encourages kindness and optimism; by telling them they should indeed leave, one is not being kind in the slightest, and optimism/pessimism is not determined by one's viewpoint on a matter but how they express their viewpoint to others; if you concede that it's the end of the world, you're promoting pessimism and being pessimistic by extension.



However, in your post you are assuring, in an unfortunately invective way, that the show will get past this speedbump. You have the correct method but the incorrect attitude, which may just be due to an external mood affecting your posts.


Just remember, one catches another's attention and convinces better when one speaks politely and positively. I know I don't always practice what I preach, but I do believe it to be true.
>> No. 2519663
>>2519662
Sorry, but this shit really gets on my nervers.
I mean come on guys, after Faust left, after Dərpigate, and after the FiM C&D, you're really throwing the towel on this one? After all we've been through together as a fandom? You're not even going to wait for S4 before giving up? Come on now, the bronies I know are better than that.
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>>2519663
I've stated before that I'm not leaving the fandom and that I'm giving S4 the full benefit of the doubt
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>>2519644
>>2519645
>>2519647
>>2519650

Feels good seeing 441 show others their places and hopefully teach them some manners too.

>>2519662

> Not fully agree.

That's why he is friendzoning you.

>>2519643

If it was only that simple, you'll see many have literally nowhere else to go, so we are stuck in here with the ones who liked the finale and want to talk about it's greatness and people who are making a huge tantrum because Twi's got wings and makes their favorite pony look inferior to her.

This is just the cold war of /arch/, I am personally just of the permanently stuck on saying how much they dislike the direction the show has taken with it's characters, there is just no way to hammer the: "Well, too bad!" memo into their thick skulls, and hilariously enough it's the same people who kept the MDW derails alive well into the first time TCE was broadcasted.
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>>2519663

Understandable, but I like to see the best out of my sunshine, you know. I know you can control your temperature, you don't need to get overcome by your negative emotions and lash out. That's my job.
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>>2519666

>temperament

I apologize for that; that pun was not intentional, I assure you.
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>>2519665
>teach them some manners
foxx0r seems just as polite as 411 in these posts, if not more so

>same people who do the MDW derails
I remember a thread a ways back where i was arguing with you at great length about it, you aren't innocent in that area, you bit as hard as anyone.
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>>2519668

It seems the site is back online, at least for me!
Okay, I know Foxx from quite awhile ago and it is not a pretty sight to see a fan of the show become a hater, I suggest you do not push me on personal things.
I only answered those silly MDW threads because I'm trying to finish off what was started long ago, back in the bad days, much like a ribbon can turn into a gun, my threat level can change easily, if you are making an observation of me, take a note, Dr. Pepper.
>> No. 2519670
>>2519663
> after Faust left, after Dərpigate, and after the FiM C&D, you're really throwing the towel on this one?

Perhaps it's because this is the last straw that broke the camel's back for some?
>> No. 2519671
>>2519668
Why does everybody keep getting my name wrong? It's two fours and one one, not one four and two ones.
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>>2519671
>It's two fours and one one
Ooooh, I see now. I won't get your name wrong again, 2411.
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>>2519669
-bipolar
duely noted

In all seriousness though i didn't even mean it as a personal thing. It's just an inconsistency, and i hate inconsistency.
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>>2519673

I got trips!
Anyway, I don't think Bipolar is the correct term, I just know when it's time to make a stand.
People tend to be inconsistent, most of the time, it's only a personal thing, don't mind it.
>> No. 2519675
>>2519644

Uh... wow. Reading that much into what I said?

I'm just tired of people saying the show is ruined forever over ONE episode. If the guy I was responding to does not like where the show is going, then he should leave. If he doesn't like the show anymore, he should leave. No one is forcing him to stay.

All I ask is that these doomsayers don't fucking ruin the show for the rest of us who ARE enjoying it, or are at least waiting till S4 to make a decision.
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Well, we're less than a week into the hiatus, and already the movement has disintegrated. Great job, everybody.

*slow clap*

But in all seriousness, the episode's gone over much better than I thought it would. While there are plenty who don't like the change, there are still quite a few who likes the episode, and plenty more who just want to see what happens down the line before making a final judgment call. So for the most part, the bickering seems to be from a vocal minority on both sides of the scale, from those that hated the mere concept of the episode and those who absolutely adored it and can't find any fault.

Me? I liked it, but I'm not going to call it one of the best episodes of even this season. In the grand scheme of things, it's around the slightly-high-middle, definitely below ACW and fighting with TBNE for worst season finale. I ultimately found it to be a flawed gem, and will gladly defend its merits, but I don't see anything wrong with disliking it. As long as you don't call anyone on the other side an idiot for daring to oppose you, it's fine to discuss the episode's strengths and weaknesses.

Or we could also turn this into the fandom's Joel vs. Mike and ban any and all discussion of the episode until things cool down. Either way, let's stop with the fussin' and the feudin', shall we?
>> No. 2519677
>>2519676
..Are you Celestia? You always have the most eloquent posts.

Also, I agree with you. It was a flawed gem, and I have faith that next season will be just as amazing as usual. Hell, maybe it'll be even better! Who knows?
>> No. 2519678
>>2519676
>Well, we're less than a week into the hiatus, and already the movement has disintegrated. Great job, everybody.
What... movement?

And, what feuding? The only feuding I have seen has been from people who liked the episode going to people who didn't like it and calling them whiners and idiots, with the periodic parasprite along the way trying to incite both.

In any case, the ones left are the ones who are giving the thing a chance, so the notion is biased as well.
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>>2519630
No.

...this episode shits continuity and pisses callbacks to previous episodes. This show might not be Babylon 5, but it has more continuity than most hour-long weekend afternoon adventure series.
>> No. 2519681
>>2519680
The actual reason is overaching narrative just doesn't sell as many DVDs as an episodic format that can take an episode and put it with others without destroying a theme.
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>>2519676
I found a lot of things wrong with the episode... Mainly being Twlight is an alicorn. When the rest of the Mane 6 die what happens then?

Not only that, but if Twlight is an all powerful being she won't be able to go to Ponyville and learn more about friendship without being mauled or something.

Not to even mention that the entire episode was too fast for enjoyment. I mean they did the destiny/cutie mark switch well, but the whole 'Twlight is an alicorn' doesn't fit into that... Even if it WAS in the spoilers. They only gave around 10 minuets of Twlight being an alicorn before fading off.

And then the rest of the Mane 6 were all messed up! The episode could've worked better if they had a more... proper (I guess) reaction to Twi being a alicorn now. I would think that Rainbow would be dumbstruck, then cool about it. AJ would be happy and going "yee haw" or something. Pinkie Pie would use the party cannon. Fluttershy would be like yayyyyyy... Rarity would begin to fuss all around Twlight.

Over all, I was really annoyed at the ending, but for the most part it was okay.
>> No. 2519683
>>2519662
thing is, people have tried the calm and collected way, for weeks before the episode, and still now after it. at this point both sides are only repeating their points, it's past tiring, and personally, i DO wish the negative ones would just go away, at least for the time being. anything that CAN be said, for both sides, HAS been said.
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>>2519678
>the ones left are the ones who are giving the thing a chance

Right. The interesting question is, how many former fans simply don't care any more, and aren't bothering to tell the fandom about it? I suspect that it's a small percentage — but I also get the feeling that a lot of us are close to that edge right now.
>> No. 2519685
>>2519677
That would explain why I like him so much.
Seriously, I don't mean to suck InsertAuthorHere's cock, but despise being a newcomer, he's shaping up to be one of my favorite posters around here.
>> No. 2519686
>>2519676

Because clearly Joel was better, I mean, everyone knows that.
>> No. 2519687
>>2519685
He already is one of my favorites.
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>>2519687

I wanna be like InsertAuthorHere when I grow up. He's so swag I do physical damage to my body as self-punishment for not being able to live up to him.


I seriously do think he's a valuable asset to the community. He has just the right temperament.
>> No. 2519689
>>2519688
Oh, god I read that whole post in .MOV Fluttershy's voice. I think I'm crying with laughter.
>> No. 2519690
>>2519683
Dood that was kind of mean. They have just as much a right to be here as you do. I'm in the middle myself because of shit like this.
>> No. 2519691
>>2517907
So, this isn't the end right? I mean, with Twi an alicorn, it will make things awkward. But If there is no season 4, I will flip my shit.
>> No. 2519692
>>2519691
Yea, there is definately going to be a season 4, 100% confirmed.
>> No. 2519693
>>2519692
thanks, I was worried, say, If it ends. Do you think the brony community will shrink?
>> No. 2519694
>>2519691
Season 4 is already confirmed.
>> No. 2519695
>>2519693
I think it has a lot of replay value, I can see it bearing the test of time, and looking back at the attention to detail in MMC i get the sense that the crew still has their hearts in it (they still give a shit), so as long as we don't keep bleeding writers and hasbro doesn't do more than they already have (i get that what they have done is within their rights and all that, but if they start going after fimific or the musicians or the chans i think it could spell doom for the fan culture), and both (loosing team members and hasbro pushing more) i think seem extremely unlikely to happen before season 4 has the chance to impress us, *fingers crossed*
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>>2519695

Fortunately, most of the writers are coming back next season. (Only Savino is not going to be involved in any way, shape or form.) We've still got most of the same animators, obviously the same voice actors, and many of the people that have worked on the show for a while and certainly shown they still care.

It looks like Season 4 might just turn out fine after all.
>> No. 2519697
>>2519696
I'm super excited for it myself! It'll be the first season that I get to be really active in!
>> No. 2519698
Something just popped in my mind. I'm not aware if someone else thought about it before, but anyway, if Starswirl's spell switched the destinies, why not use it again and again until they get switched back?
>> No. 2519699
>>2519698
the chance to get all randomly shuffled 5 to fit perfectly is...one in i don't know how many.
>> No. 2519700
>>2519699
One hundred twenty.
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>>2519700
>>2519699
and that's assuming twilight is immune to the swap, she may have just gotten lucky, so if twilight did just get lucky the chances are 1/6(probability of twilight getting her cutie mark) over 6^6 (probability of all 6 getting the right cutie mark)(46646) which translates to 1/279936 of getting it right without twilight loosing her memory and loosing everything (did i do that right?)
>> No. 2519703
>>2519702
dunno, i was never good at physics.
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Some news about viewership.

http://press.discovery.com/us/hub/press-releases/2013/royalty-reigns-over-key-competitors-my-little-2309/

>The special coronation episode of "My Little Pony Friendship is Magic" outperformed Cartoon Network, Nicktoons, Teen Nick, Disney XD, Nick Jr., and Sprout in a variety of demos.

>Also, in Total Day, The Hub is tops in co-viewing, thereby validating its status as a network for children and their families. More Kids 2-11 are watching The Hub with an Adult 18-49 than any other kid cable network, including Nickelodeon, Disney Channel, Cartoon Network, Disney XD, TeenNick, Sprout, Nick Jr., Nicktoons, Adult Swim and Nick at Nite.

>A new episode of "My Little Pony Friendship is Magic" (Saturday, 10:30 a.m. ET) beat key competitors in numerous demographics, including the following:
>Kids 2-11, The Hub outperformed Teen Nick (+240%), Nicktoons (+136%) and Sprout (+101%).
>Girls 2-11, The Hub outperformed Nicktoons (+526%), Teen Nick (+168%), Sprout (+90%), Disney XD (+42%), Nick Jr. (+41%) and Cartoon Network (+22%).
>Kids 6-11, The Hub out-performed Sprout (+353%), Nick Jr. (+115%), Teen Nick (+37%) and Nicktoons (+9%).
>Girls 6-11, The Hub out-performed Sprout (+500%), Nicktoons (+380%), Nick Jr. (+324%), Cartoon Network (+36%) and Teen Nick (+33%).

>"My Little Pony Friendship is Magic" also earned year-to-year time period delivery gains among Kids 2-11 (+111%), Girls 2-11 (+80%), Kids 6-11 (+187%), Girls 6-11 (+177%), Adults 18-49 (+139%), Women 18-49 (+216%), Adults 25-54 (+116%) and Women 25-54 (+184%).
>> No. 2519705
>>2519704

Do I hear Season 5? I think I do! =)
>> No. 2519706
>>2519703
aww, no one gonna get in on that joke? fine.
"that's math."
"SEE HOW BAD I AM?"

and >>2519704
yay
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>>2519705
More like S8
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>>2519707

I'm okay with this.
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>>2519705
>>2519708

If it's gonna last that long there should be an episode for a character that's not the mane six, cmc or spike.
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>>2519712


Post porn?
>> No. 2519714
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  >>2519712
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Since i haven't said it in this particular thread i should add for the record that after i heard there were going to be multiple rarity episodes and that twilight has some conflict with the princess thing all confidence has been restored in season 4, FUTURE HO! (now we wait...)

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>>2519712
Wait, aren't all the episode threads supposed to be put in /ep/?
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>>2519712
>> No. 2519721
>>2519704
Marimo, warn a brotha next time you post stuff that might cause a spit take.

Season 10 here wecome.
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>>2519718
It's not just an episode thread though, it marks a time of conflict in the community, and instead of coming out of it broken, i feel like everyone is a bit closer. Friendships are hardened with the fires of past conflict, and instead of loosing people the site has been more active than ever with lots of new faces! It shows that /arch/ has some endurance as a community!

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>>2519722
How romantic of you
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>>2519718
Finales get placed in /arch/.
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Woo hoo we're awesome!

Right?
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>>2519725
Totally!
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>>2519725

ye
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>>2519725
Style!
>> No. 2519729
>>2519728
Can you feel it Mr.Krabs?
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>>2519729
Oh, I feel it alright!
>> No. 2519731
>>2519730
Really?! What do you feel?
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>>2519731
The need to make a save Vs. Wands.
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>>2519731
Wake up in the morning feeling like the Joker
Grab my guns, I'm out the door, This movie's gonna be mediocre
Before I leave, rig my house with some booby traps
'Cause when I leave for the night, I'm neva comin' back

I'm talking smoke grenades down the rows, rows
Aiming for the runners at the doors, doors
All the bodies hitting those floors, floors
Re-loading, playing my favorite movie
Steppin' up to the rows to see
If I can get a little baaaby

Won't stop, watch 'em drop
Gonna blow these fuckers up
Tonight, I'mma fight
'Til I see the popo's lights
Pop pop hear em drop
But the cleansing just won't stop, no
>> No. 2519734
>>2519733
wut


Also, new FIW everypony! New Friendship is Witchcraft is out!
>> No. 2519735
>>2519734

Really? Ooh, I have to watch it!

Three minutes in, Twilight has a physical attraction to her brother. What? What?! I just can't wrap around this. She's singing about it.
>> No. 2519736
>>2519735
I laughed so hard at this episode. Shining Armor is a pop singer!
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>>2519736

That was... something.

It was a really good something, I really enjoyed the episode, but... wow.

Season 4 Twilight in a nutshell?


Also SOCKER BOPPERS, that was a huge wave of nostalgia, even though I never actually bought a pair I remember that song and commercial very distinctly.


We should commandeer this thread, in the 10 hours it has left, into a Friendship is Witchcraft thread.
>> No. 2519738
>>2519737
I agree so much. What about the dragon force field thing? That was just...Pfff!
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>>2519738

That I don't remember, there are so many subtle jokes I miss some on the first viewing.


Alright, to give serious thoughts on this episode... wow. I think this episode was more morally objectionable than SWAG.MOV. Incest is wincest?


It seems like a big jump in Twilight's characterization, from a whiny child who gets her way to a thinly veiled villain. I like it.

Princess Princess Princess Princess Cadence Not-Evil Good Pony had more personality than in canon, and I legitimately felt bad for her fate.


Spike is hilariously pathetic as usual, Applejack is blissful, Fluttershy is morally questionable while still adorable, Dash is comically flat, and Pinkie got cut for time. The song, wasn't my favorite of the series but provided some interesting backstory.


And, of course, the humor was spot-on, rapid fire to the point that I missed some of the jokes, good. I thought it met the standards of Friendship is Witchcraft, and it was worth the wait.



And to think, if this episode was like that, they are going to rip into CE if they apply the same concept that they have.
>> No. 2519740
>>2519739
Yeah, the lack of Pinkie was the only thing that kind of bothered me, but meh. Them setting up Twilight as a villain was very interesting.
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Since the thread's about to die, I might as well throw this out there:

Friendship is Witchcraft is awful. All of it. Every time one of the episodes pops up on a livestream or videos countdown, I spend the entirety just watching it in stone silence. I even tried to watch the new one just to see if they had gotten better, or at least enough to justify everyone loving it so much, and quit after the first half was over with not even a smile.

The worst part is that it doesn't feel like you're allowed to dislike it. If you ever say anything against FiW, the fans come crawling out of the woodwork to call you "misinformed" and "humorless" and "unable to appreciate dark humor." The thing is, I love black comedy, I love parodies and abridged series of things I like or used to like, and I simply can't stand this series at all. That's the root problem of it all: I simply cannot anything worthwhile in this series. In some ways, it repulses me more than the. MOV series ever could.
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>>2519741
Yeah, I don't really understand all the hype over FiW. It's pretty decent, yes, but not this "super ultra epic funniest parody ever" that a lot of people make it out to be.
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>>2519741
There's always going to be those things that everyone sees as funny that just don't strike a chord, even if you come into it with a completely open mind. All my friends, who I'd like to say have generally good taste, love The Big Bang Theory, and I just bores me to sleep.
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While I do like FiW, I personally prefer the Mentally Advanced series more.
>> No. 2519745
>>2519741
I understand where you're coming from. I love it myself, but I can see why you wouldn't like it. Sorry, that you've had to deal with flankholes like that.
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>>2519741

Burn him at the stake!


Nah, it's okay to not like something that seemingly everyone else loves.

My Little Dashie. I loathe it. It's a fictional character ending up in the real world, but with artificial sappiness thrown in. But, everyone adores (adored? I haven't heard much from in recent months) it. I'm called soulless for not liking it. I even listened to a livestream with a dramatic reading of it (the dramatic reading was several hours, I only stuck around for about twenty minutes, left, came back an hour later, left when I saw it was still on, came back again after another hour, and caught the epilogue) and the chat was filled with "SO SAD <333" while I just thought it was... stupid.


It's alright to not like something popular, I assure you, as long as you aren't rude about it, and you aren't.
>> No. 2519747
>>2519746
I never cared for MLD either. It was just kind of meh to me.

>>2519744
I've never watched the Mentally Advance series, what kind of humor does it have?
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>>2519741
You are on a goddamn roll, with your angry Celestia and your posts full of cutting truth. Never change, bro. Never change.
>> No. 2519749
>>2519747
Sort of more adult and absurdist. If you're interested, I'd recommend episode 5 (DS because they skipped the pilot) since that's when I think it really got good.

http://www.dawnsomewhere.com/mentally-advanced-series/mas-episode-5/

He also does Rainbow Dash Presents, which is a comedic retelling of fanfics (which usually involve gorillas). Much better versions of Cupcakes and My Little Dashie.
>> No. 2519750
>>2519749
Wait FlimFlamFilosophy does that series?! Okay, I definitely have to check this out!
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>>2519741

What? You don't like the .MOV series?
>> No. 2519752
So....wait, first, FiW has an episode about Twilight turning into a princess. Then Twilight turns into a princess in the show. And now they just made an episode about her getting married.

...HOLD ONTO YOUR JIMMIES EVERYPONY, SEASON FOUR IS GONNA BE ONE WILD RIDE!
>> No. 2519753
>>2519741
>>The worst part is that it doesn't feel like you're allowed to dislike it.

that happen with everything. even with the show.

but the problem mostly is because you go and said "this suck and is awful" while you are surrounded by people who think it doesnt suck and it isnt awful. so technically you are saying what they like is awful and suck.
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>>2519751

Not particularly. Although there, it's more because I'm not really a fan of the animation or the more gross out kind of humor. Sorry.

(Then again, I've only seen the first two. I might give the others a chance to see if it improved.)

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>> No. 2519755
>>2519754

Don't. Trust me; it's more of the same, if you didn't like the first two you won't like the rest.
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>>2519754
>>2519755

But Shed.mov is the best...followed closely by swag.mov.
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>>2519756
What about Apple.mov ?
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>>2519757

Aye. That's the first one. He says he's already seen that one.
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>>2519758
No, I was asking you if you liked that one.
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>>2519759

Ya
>> No. 2519761
>>2519756
SWAG made me have so much liquid pride.
>> No. 2519762
>>2519756

But it contains the same elements as the first two, so he wouldn't like it either.
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Oh! New FIW, nice to see new episodes are still coming out!
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>>2519647


Damnit, I just now start to look at this thread right before its about to be locked so no more discussion on this; But I pretty much agree wholeheartedly with you fox.
>> No. 2519765
>>2519763
Yeah, I was worried it was canceled myself!
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>>2519763
Just finished it, laughed my flank off, best one to date i think.
http://www.sherclop.com/v/foaly-matripony
>> No. 2519767
>>2519741
It's comedy.

Comedy is subjective.
>> No. 2519768
Hey... shouldn't this have been zapped? It's been 24 hours.
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>>2519768
!!Shiny probably forgot. See you in /arch/!
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