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119922 No. 119922
#Traditional #Canon #Gallery #Critique wanted

hello i'm new here
and i'm looking for place for my pony drawing
sorry about my bad english i'm not used to it

hope you guys like it.

Last edited at Wed, Jan 30th, 2013 01:56

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>> No. 119923
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>> No. 119924
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this one screw up in last moment
but still.. i tried
>> No. 119925
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119925
oh and happy new year ;)

it's already 2013.1.2 in my country, but yeah
>> No. 119926
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119926
I like those a lot!
>try to submit to equstriadaily,
>but apparently, they don't like it
Try drawing Trixie, I hear that helps


/watches thread
>> No. 119928
>>119926
lol okay i will.
>> No. 119929
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119929
Gosh, these are majestically beautiful.

May I ask for some Princess Celestia? Pretty please? Also, do you have a name?
>> No. 119930
>>119929
id like a name too
>> No. 119931
>>119929
Thx and Will do , in sometime later :)

>>119929
>>119930
Actually i dont but Um just call me murphy if you want to call
Its my formal id in other site
>> No. 119932
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>>119922
>>119924
Interesting, but something is bugging me and it may be the same thing bugging these Equestria Daily peoples: the feet, they don't seem to be there. Rather than coming to an ankle and continuing to a hoof, the legs just appear to stump off and it's very uncanny. I notice this is rather prevalent in the other pictures you posted as well, but it's somewhat hidden by the relative width of the character's legs. Luna's legs, being portrayed in a much more slender, graceful I suppose, fashion and are much more noticeable. That and on your very first post Luna's back legs seem to be doing a funky little trick with perspective where the rear-left leg would have to be connected to a position about an inch or so further back than the right leg.

Maybe I'm just reading it wrong, I'm no great expert, but it might be worth your while to red-line some skeletal anatomy over it just to see if it all still lines up. Research and reference should be used just as much as your pencils and pens. I like what you did with the tone of the paper though, it carries a very nice effect and helps establish a light source. I rather wish the shadows on the underside of Luna's body were a little bit darker to help amplify that. But now I'm just rambling, it's a pleasant piece of art none the less. I'm not familiar with Equestria Daily's submission policies so I wouldn't be able to tell you exactly why they declined it, I can only speculate, and speculate I have. I hope it helps in some way.
>> No. 119936
>>119932
Omg, no you re absolutely right. Its true im really stuck at legs, you know i just cant get those lags right,
yeah im really need to study more about anatomy XD i will try do better next time
I Really thank for your words sir, its really gonna helpful.
>> No. 119997
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>>119922
Took me about six months of spamming EQD about every other week to get them to pick up something I drew.

From the experience I learned:
* I got way more traffic/comments/interaction with other fans when they picked up one of my comics rather than a picture (probably because they had to click through to my site to read the whole comic)
* The boost in traffic from getting a picture on EQD really wasn't much more than the return from just steadily building up a stack of watchers from various DeviantArt groups or folks from Derpibooru (In fact, probably my proudest accomplishment was one of my works just showing up on the now-defunct Ponibooru without me doing anything to put it there, and then it reposted again as an edit with all the speech balloons edited out. I thought it was an awful drawing, but someone thought it was worth sharing with others, and someone else was emotionally invested enough in the drawing to try and "fix" it.)

So yeah, I've been there, and I get the need for the elusive banana sticker of psychological validation that is being an EQD Drawfriend. But you really don't need it. Just draw and have fun, and soon enough others will be having fun with you.

But if it gives you something to work for, I'd try colorizing something. Can't recall many EQD drawfriend posts that weren't full color.

Which is a shame, because I love the look of your stuff in greyscale, especially that second Luna. What media are you using? Graphite pencil?
>> No. 120009
>>119997
oh i'm using pencil with Propelling pencil / Mechanical pencil / Pacer (i don't know how to say in english, lol because in my country we just call it 'sharpe')

so and yeah, maybe i should just enjoy ponies, drawing more more ponies. and try to not concern about it. thx for your comment :D
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>>119932

and here it is

i'm trying to fix this all last night
and..... okay i don't know XD. did i screw up again?
yeah i'm really need to study more and draw more
>> No. 120012
>>120010
I liked the original better,

Sometimes you need to think and take with a grain of salt what random people of random fanart imageboards tell you.They often being wrong or entitled to their opinion There is no actual professionals which word is casred, they all are busy working in the media industry.LIke making the show about colorful ponies...
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>>119925
>> No. 120023
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120023
new drawing

>>120012
shame on me.
i think i just move on and start new one i guess.
;0

>>120017
omg what is this. how did you do that.
it much better than my actual drawing lol.
thank you!
>> No. 120027
>>120023
It is called "inking" aka making clean lineart. Tbh, it is not so good, could be better, I can see which lines and where could be improved. Stillm good job on a quite awesome sketch.
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>>119922
That's amazing. Seriously. I don't know how you did the lighting so well. Bravo. I can't really think of any way I can critique that other than maybe adding a little more detail to Luna's tail and mane, although that's tough because of their flowy qualities. It's awesome as it is.
>> No. 120052
>>119922
ur actually pretty good.

the reason EqD probably dont 'accept' ur work is because its to common or not so unique
(*note the 'probably')

i suggest try making something 'overboard' or crazy.
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her legs are a bit too thin here >>119922 and here >>119924 she currently looks extremely frail with such tiny hooves. also, both the front hooves and back hooves should be about the same size. >>119924 in this one, her body seems just a tiny bit too long and i would also suggest putting the "hair in front" as you did in >>119922

aj's flank/plot/thigh is too big here >>119923 which makes her foreleg too small. also happens here >>119922

>>119925 head is too big/body too small. her ankle is too low imo and should be raised up slightly.

>>120023 body too small and neck too long


tbh, keep drawing other things and leave your current art work as is. also, eqd likes clean drawings with backgrounds. but who cares about what they think, they're just an aggregate popularity website

all of them have essentially the same ear shape, even though you have different perspectives. not only that, but they seem to point backwards instead of forwards.
>> No. 120164
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new drawing : Queen Chrysalis

>>120027
thx again!
>>120037
maybe i will try that next luna or celestia! thx!
>>120052
thx, and something crazy? .. hmm @[email protected]
>>120102
wow.. thx for your comment for every detail. :D
>> No. 120166
>>120164
looks pretty sweet
>> No. 120167
>>120164
Her legs placement is quite weird. Completely broken, especially with hindlegs.
>> No. 120173
>>120167
I honestly have no clue what you're talking about here, how are they broken? They look fine to me. o_O
>> No. 120351
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new drawing
>> No. 120353
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120353
another one.


um i wanna change my first image of this thread
how?
can i?
>> No. 120359
this stuff is really good murphy
>> No. 120389
This stuff is amazing :D the shading is one of the best i've seen :3

Thank you for new drawings to do xD
>> No. 120392
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>>120359
thank you sir!
>>120389
thank you too!

and another one
i just can't sleep (4 am in my country)
so i draw this lol.
>> No. 120394
What media do you use? Pencil, charcoal, something else?
>> No. 120396
I have to agree with the others, you do have quite an impressive thread here. Your style for drawing the characters is beautiful and seems well-mastered, and your smooth shading is a lovely touch and makes your work stand out.

The only thing I personally have to nitpick on is the sense of value you have in your shading. My high school art teacher always said that you need to make your lights light and your darks dark. You seem to be using a lot of midtones in your shading, not that that's necessarily a bad thing. Don't be afraid to accentuate some of the lighter areas or darken the shadowy areas to almost black. You'll find it can bring an added sense of realism to your artwork.

Keep up the good work!
>> No. 120397
Very, very beautiful style. Would love to see colored versions of these.
Do you have a DA account or anything of the like?
>> No. 120401
Beautiful stuff, man, but have you worked with more exaggerated facial expressions yet?

Also, what is up with EqD lately? A lot of the drawfriend submissions are substantially lower quality than usual.
>> No. 120402
>>120394
yep just a pencil (and Propelling pencil / Mechanical pencil / Pacer)
>>120396
yes sometime i'm really struggle with balancing the contrast. but i'm sure it's gonna be better if i keep trying. i'm really need more practise
thank you!
>>120397
actually, i got color amblyopia sort of color blind
i tried some of color work before but it's really didn't work so well. i just have no idea what i'm doing when i try to use some color lol

>>120401
oh i almost missed yours, thanks and i try to make more facial expressions but im not good at it yet. but i will try sometime :)


oh yeah
few days ago i made DA(daviant art) accout

http://murphylaw4me.deviantart.com/

Last edited at Tue, Jan 29th, 2013 22:19

>> No. 120425
>>120402
>yep just a pencil (and Propelling pencil / Mechanical pencil / Pacer)
Ah, cool. What do you use to blend/smudge with?

>Critique
There are places in your work where the shading approaches the lineart but doesn't quite reach it, or crosses right over. For example, the rendering on Luna's hair in >>120351 goes over the edge, and the shadows on the wall in >>120353 don't quite reach the figure.

In some cases, this works well as lighting. Like the top of the legs in >>120164. In other cases, though, like for the writer, it doesn't make sense for light or shadow.

When the rendering doesn't quite conform to the edges, it makes the objects seem less solid. Less tangible, less defined. For example, in >>120392, Luna's muzzle. It has a bit of lighting on it, plus her hair lightens up as it approaches the edge. If either the hair or the muzzle had a touch of lightening along the edge, the shape of the face would still be visually clear, and the shape would look much more solid.

The imagery looses depth because shade is a visual cue for layering. If one side of an edge is darker than the other, you get a sense of one object being in front or on top of the other. If the shade is similar on both sides of the edge, you don't get the same sense of depth, and the imagery isn't as bold.

I don't like to smudge my drawings because it's harder to control the tone precisely. It's kind of necessary for charcoal, though. I find a 2mm eraser stick (one of these: http://www.dickblick.com/products/paper-mate-tuff-stuff-eraser-stick/ ) is great for sharpening up edges (Especially where the tone goes over the lines where I don't want it to).

Anyway, I talk too much. I hope it helps some. Sorry if it's hard to make sense of. You have some really wonderful work here: your line art clean and formal, and I like your use of dramatic shadows (particularly on the writer).
>> No. 120630
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120630
i thought i should stop being lazy. so i delete my fifa13 and start draw this last night
damn ea

>>120425
sorry for late reply
bit of got lazy few week xD

i use my finger and toliet paper to make tones
and folded paper for narrow area

and i'm really thank you for your awesome critiques!
i will try better next time for make it up to your sincere advices (is that a right term? sorry again for bad english lol)
>> No. 120645
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120645
trixie here.
>> No. 120647
>>120645
I love your drawings so much !
I almost just wanna steal your style!
>> No. 120715
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120715
You're pretty good.
>> No. 120717
No luck with Celestia?
>> No. 120739
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120739
got busy from other stuff to do and
it's getting ridiculously long. now i'm just drag on it
i don't know when it gonna finish
but i just hope i don't mess it up this time
(again sorry about the bad english)


>>120647
thank you! i'm watchin your DA! i lovin it
>>120715
thank you sir!
>>120717
no no i'm working on her see? =)
>> No. 120741
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>>120739
My goodness! That looks phenomenal!
Really love what you're doing with the shading, especially in the bottom left corner there. It's doing a good job of letting the image pop.
Can't wait to see if finished. Keep up the good work!
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>>120739
My goodness! That looks phenomenal!
Really love what you're doing with the shading, especially in the bottom left corner there. It's doing a good job of letting the image pop.
Can't wait to see if finished. Keep up the good work!
>> No. 120752
>>120742
...and how did I post twice?
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>>120752
It does that from time to time. Usually when the upload lags or the reply button is pressed twice as it's trying to load.

Chans are silly websites.
>> No. 120796
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done!

>>120741
hope you not disappoint
>> No. 120799
>>120796
so beautiful
>> No. 120812
>>120796
That's incredible! Beautiful work!
>> No. 120813
Can you draw Celestia?
>> No. 120814
Can you draw Princess Celestia please?
>> No. 120969
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>>120799
Thanks!
>>120812
Thank you!
>>120813
>>120814
i already draw two of her.
>>120353
>>120796
but maybe you mean just celestia? solo?
i don't know maybe i will. but i don't know.
i don't plan anything lol.
>> No. 120981
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I uh, coudn't resist the urge to try and color these. Don't think I did a very good job. Creating line-art for shaded sketches like this is outside of my area of expertise so I had to do without.

My apologies for butchering these with my feeble attempts at improval.
>> No. 120991
>>120969
wow! I really love the shading you did in her hair, The shade you used matches the colors there supposed to represent perfectly. It's like someone took an old black&white photo of Cadence.
>> No. 120997
anon you really could make a good profit with these if you accepted commissions
>> No. 121005
yes, Solo Celestia please
>> No. 121127
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121127
need moar Chrysalis in season 4 please!

>>121005
okay i will try to draw her
don't expect me to finish soon lol.
>>120981
that is quite amzaing. thank you!
>>120991
glad you love it! thanks
>>120997
well i don't know, i'm just doing this for fun. and i'm kinda busy and terrible at following schedule. but thank you for saying that!

Last edited at Tue, Feb 19th, 2013 11:15

>> No. 121792
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pts_sketch_01
>> No. 121794
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mane6
>> No. 121795
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chrysalis sketch 03

i got busy! but i think i can upload once a week
>> No. 121813
No celestia?
>> No. 122224
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122224
(Chrysalis) http://murphylaw4me.deviantart.com/
late, but finally update!
really busy!

>>121813
sorry! X0

Last edited at Tue, Apr 2nd, 2013 10:00

>> No. 122225
>>119922
Your art is beautiful, do you have a tumblr or something?
>> No. 122233
>>122225
i got deviantart
http://murphylaw4me.deviantart.com/
:D
>> No. 122257
No Celestia yet?
>> No. 122258
>>119922
Not bad Hoss.
>> No. 122584
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http://murphylaw4me.deviantart.com/art/Princess-Luna-sketch-5-366050425?q=gallery%3Amurphylaw4me&qo=0

>>122257
i don't know why but
i just keep drawing everypony but celestia
not a parasprite! but i just don't have feeling to do so X0
sorry! x10
>> No. 122585
No celestia?
>> No. 122628
>>122585

Patience grasshopper,he's doing this for free.There's no need to rush anything.
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>>122585


and here !!!
sorry about super long waiting
but finally celestia
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