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30737 No. 30737
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRPG

With an emphasis on CONCEPT.
Why? Because before embarking in an admittedly ambitious project, I want to know if the community is interested in a project like this.

What I have in mind is a plot-driven, character-based (non-massive) SRPG with multiple endings ala Super Robot Taisen, with that framework in mind I ran into several problems primarily concerning the plot.

My first attempts at making a coherent plot were about the Mane 6 having to repel an invasion from alternate, "evil" mane 6 counterparts and the fiendish wildlife of their world, with some subplots shoehorned in order to include every named character seen in the show.
That plot wears thin and predictable to me, and also is a little too much violent and dark for the show standards.

After the bad aftertaste of the my previous try at writing, I came with another idea: Basing the plot around the "ancient pony era" before Hearth's Warming Eve. The setting is perfect for this type of game, featuring conflict and politic intrigue from three different sides. But I think if I go with this setting, the game becomes "My Little Pony" IN NAME ONLY, featuring nor Mane 6 neither Friendship as it main theme.

That's because I'm posting this thread, I want suggestions about the plot and whether anypony is interested in the project.

>tl;dr: I wanna make a pony SRPG; plot is a significant headache. DO WANT suggestions.
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>> No. 30738
Depending on when you start I'm interested if you need any spriting, for dialogue, or I guess cutscenes. Or if your concept morphs a bit.
>> No. 31088
I could make vectors for these characters if you needed such a thing. :D
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31265
A SRPG based around the "Ancient Pony Era" wouldn't be a bad idea, it's actually something I'd like to see happen.

I'm also willing to help in anyway I can (except when it comes to music, I'm no good at that). I'd like to think that I'm an 'okay' writer, but you can judge that for yourself if you want, my email should be included.
>> No. 31376
Ooh woops, forgot my email. :D
>> No. 31567
You had me at plot-driven. Are we talking Queen's Blade level fanservice here? joke.

anyway, I actually am interested at this. I can help out with the story concepts. just mail me at [email protected] if you think I can help out.

You need to round yourself up a couple of good fic writers if you're looking for concept.

I've been a fan of medieval fantasy stories and SRPGs like Super Robot Wars and Tactics Ogre and FF tactics, so I can help conceive with how you want your SRPG to be when it comes to story AND gameplay.


Oh yeah, do you want us to talk here in Ponychan regarding story particulars or what?
>> No. 31568
>
After the bad aftertaste of the my previous try at writing, I came with another idea: Basing the plot around the "ancient pony era" before Hearth's Warming Eve. The setting is perfect for this type of game, featuring conflict and politic intrigue from three different sides. But I think if I go with this setting, the game becomes "My Little Pony" IN NAME ONLY, featuring nor Mane 6 neither Friendship as it main theme.


Very good idea, because we can now shape the land and events the way we want without breaking canon, and perhaps even be a grand transition to what the show portrays now.


Wait for my post. I will make a short draft regarding story.
>> No. 31572
Here's a little idea that I have. I decided to go with the concept of pony wars before and during the events at Hearth's Warming Eve. The game will act as a forbidden chronicle to the events that soon lead to the foundation of Equestria.

Here it is!

Long before the peaceful rule of Celestia, ponies did not know harmony. Their continued disharmony and bickering caused a fierce winter to befall the land. It was the power of friendship that caused that dreaded cold to dissipate. Yes, we have all heard the legend of Hearth’s Warming Eve.


Surely you are here naught to hear this fairy tale, but the real story. A string of truths and disgraceful acts await those who wish to be enlightened. You’ve heard the gist of it. Now, make ready to hear the rest of it. Follow me, and know.


Stallion Tactics: Hearth’s Winter
>> No. 31599
>>30737

Hey, I've actually been trying to get my SRPG off the ground for a bit, so I have the plot and much of the mechanics thought out if you were interested in combining efforts. I problem I had was finding people to help out. It also funny enough has to do with 'ancient pony times'

My email is [email protected]
>> No. 31642
This seems like as good a place as any to pitch my story idea...

Suppose that, in the far past, there was the Draconequus Empire and the Kingdom of Equestria. Both had citizens of average strength, but both had a nigh-omnipotent leader. The Draconequi had Discord, and the ponies had Celestia.

There was a war.

I like to think that the Draconequi would have 6 generals opposing the Elements of Harmony, possessed by Celestia's generals. These would not be as powerful as Discord himself, but still much more powerful than the average soldier. They would serve as the boss levels.

Note that I play Fire Emblem. No idea what shift in frame of reference this would have compared to Super Robot Taisen, but there you go.

I'd love to be a character designer/story writer for this.
>> No. 31644
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31644
i really want to work with these guys and Weeg. Lilifut's concept is pretty good also.

Shouldn't OP start some sort of i dunno a facebook group so we can start planning and get this thing going?

Plot is a headache, yes, that's why the forumers are here to help, but what about graphics? we need to get our ranks organized if we ACTUALLY WANNA START ON THIS.

Regarding concept and gameplay, I'm sure my familiarity with pic can help.
>> No. 31671
>>31644

You make a good point Watcher, but I think OP may have forgotten about this. I hope he/she hasn't but it's a possibility.
>> No. 31684
>>31642
That's dangerously close to my idea, but I thought it would be cooler if it were to take place before celestia was in the throne and the 'normal ponies' had 6 champions of their own and celestia ends up helping them (hence my original title was 'In the Company Of Strangers)

Note that I also played a lot of fire emblem (still do)

>>31644

Facebook group would be a good idea. Question though: are any of you programmers/musicians/artists? Cause that would be helpful down the road.
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>>31684

Limeylassen seems to be a spriter, while the others can contribute to storyline and gameplay.

So all we need is one musician and at least one programmer. I'm not even familiar with game engines!

so how do we go about looking for programmers here in /collab/?

New plan! If we don't get a response from OP within two weeks, we post another thread here at collab. WeeG will facilitate that thread.

Sounds like some ground we can work on?
>> No. 31744
>>31702

Well I'm a programmer. I'm fluent in jaa an know my way around C++ and Python. I would like to see if I could get some other programmers to help though, because I haven't done any game on a large scale like this.

A new thread is possible, though I would like everypony in this thread to email me with their usernames (real names might be helpful too) and credentials, just so I can make a list and see where we are. I've been working on a google doc, so I'll get that finished soon and I'll post it here or email it.
>> No. 31752
I think a game that doesn't focus on just the mane6 would be an interesting change. nothing against the main cast but the world is filled with possibilities so it's almost second nature to want to explore that.

The only drawback is the three tribes are significantly different so finding a balance among them for gameplay purposes would be hard.

And I second the motion that you guys need to get organized before you drive in. This is gonna take a LOT of planning before-hand to get the gameplay right.
>> No. 31755
I could see something revolving around Twilight being somewhat of a Ramza to Celestia and Luna having a war, similar tot he War of the Lions

would make for interesting character comparisons, and perhaps a little more fun with the character development. Y'know, instead of every character going on a bus after they join you in FFT lol
>> No. 31756
I could see something revolving around Twilight being somewhat of a Ramza to Celestia and Luna having a war, similar tot he War of the Lions

would make for interesting character comparisons, and perhaps a little more fun with the character development. Y'know, instead of every character going on a bus after they join you in FFT lol
>> No. 31770
>>31756
As much as possible, we really don't want to involve the mane 6 here. Sure theyre popular, but that could restrict us to what can be done.

Penning your own characters helps us break less of what is canon. And we can be free to do what we want with the ponies and its history, since Pre hearths warming eve history is vague and exploitable, Like FF Tactics!

>>31744
My email is [email protected] You can call me Josh.

Credentials: College graduate.

I can help with story and gameplay.
>> No. 31939
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31939
Bucking this up for all heck.

Currently, we need more programmers and spriters. We only have two: one for programming and one for spriting.

To entice you guys more, have a sensual Sweetie Belle!
>> No. 31959
I could be a story planner, dialogue writer, map designer, and, to a lesser extent, music composer. I can also do a tiny amount of sprite work.

I just had a thought, by the way. This game would need an FFTA-style race/class system, including Earth Pony, Unicorn, Pegasus, possibly Alicorn, Griffon, Zebra, Draconequus, Buffalo, etc. This creates much more strategy in character building.
>> No. 32144
>>31959

I'm kinda thinking that there would be this sort of class system, but I would just like the class system to focus on the three races. The griffins and buffaloes would be some sort of special class.

The unicorns would obviously have higher magic stats,
Pegasi higher speed stats
and Earth Ponies would be stronger.

There will also be race exclusive jobs. I envision this game to be in the vain of FFT, just like you.

Have you made contact with WeeG yet Lilifut? He's the one getting things organized with regards to story and system and whatnot.
>> No. 32371
No, I have not.
>> No. 32372
Now I have.

I do like the idea of buffalo and griffins as main classes, though, especially if we make the storyline worldwide.

And can we at least have expies of the mane 6?
>> No. 32403
OP Here.

I honestly forgot about this thread because I thought nopony was interested, but I haven't forgotten about the project in the slightest.

I've been focused on making the engine in Game Maker 8, It's going very slowly but with a group of people helping I'm sure to pour more time and effort on this.

Sadly I haven't got the time to read all your replies but I will do it as soon as I can, in the mean time here's my contact email.

(I hope you haven't already started without me lol)
>> No. 32413
GM8 free or registered? If it's the former, I can do map design.
>> No. 32437
Well now I've read every reply so far, here's my imput. Keep in mind that this is the very first project I take a part in so my inexperience will probably drown you in sight.

First, I'm digging Stallion Tactics: Hearth’s Winter as a better name than PonyTactics lol.

I'm also liking your plot story ideas, I originally envisioned a 3-way conflict between the Unicorn Kingdom, the Pegasi Cloud-City States and the Earth Confederate States fighting for a MacGuffin that would end up freeing Discord.
Lilfut has also a more epic Idea of Pony vs Draconequus, I think it could make the story a bit too linear but we can work with that too.

As for the gameplay and mechanics, I have a .doc in my netbook with some ideas, written in broken English no less; Somepony might want to take a look at it.
As with pretty much everything I've had done with this project, it is very basic and disorganized.

But we can ditch it fast as you all seem to be much more knowledgeable about SRPGs than me; being my main referent SRT games which most probably aren't the best balanced or interesting given what I've read on some forums.

>>31744
I'm only a computer science/software engineering student right now, one of my main motivations is learning more about my profession with a challenging project, that and ponies.

Maybe I could be of some help with the programming aspects, I know mainly some Java and VB .Net but those two are awful for game programming lol. I've been studying some C# but I think we should avoid using a too complex engine like XNA.

>>32413
I'm using the pro version because complex mechanics are ridiculously hard to pull off without native data structure support.

Anyways, if needed we can ditch my advances with GM altogether as it seems to be an uphill battle without adequate Database support; there's not much to lose for me in the end.
>> No. 32635
>>32437

i take it you have already talked to WeeG about this? we already made a few steps in your absence. You should talk to him and coordinate, since he's a programmer also. Right now, i'll be checking out what a good plot can be, cause ive already made a different plot summary, but it's still related to Stallion Tactics.
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