Since last time I checked, you can only have 1 link per post:

V1.41 TEST 1:
http://www.mediafire.com/?oxa25svkrey233a

http://pumpkinc.deviantart.com/gallery/

Another one, with the usual low I.Q and broken english.

Belated replies:

>>34625

Whenver I get the time, I plan to make a "do not loop" option for behaviors. With RoosterDragon's recent code, we actually have a lot of control over animations now.

>>35191
Definitely your own fault :) Pinkie has lots of behaviors... Added to my list of things to do.

>>35580
You'll have to show me how exactly all that works for multi-platforms :) I am just an amature coder compared to you (but I'm sure you knew that).
And btw, I did look at your interface for graphics and agree it's a good idea. I have had very little spare time though so I'm affraid the new feature doesn't use that yet. I'll work on tidying everything up.

>>35755
I like http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/. Commercial use is probably too touchy a subject.

Hmmm... desktop ponies is going to be a sims game?

By the way, there was something mentioned about a screen mate thingy and I'd like that idea. Would it be possible to allow users to create bahavior "classes" like behaviors that are triggered through a mousclick or proximity of the mouse or even through a little vb code that would define the trigger °_°

>>36254
>>36276
I await the day where I can feed my desktop ponies, just like my virtual fish.

>>36276
>>36281
I can barely keep up with the ideas already put out, and there you go giving me better ones.

Actually, you've reminded me of how that old program I once used (that led me to making this) worked:

A floating toolbar like you have in photoshop, but it has options for cursor functions like:

Drag (displays a drag hand, same as the current version)
Pet (clicking and dragging around a pony plays a "pet" behavior - although I'd have to make different animations for different areas.. pet near the top and you pat them on the head, pat lower for a belly rub, etc...)
Spray with water for the 'wet mane' look (on my old virtual puppy program, you prayed them when they were bad...)

How should feed work? Just display an animation or drop some hay?

What else should there be?

Oh Celestia, this does sound almost like the start of like pony sims.

>>36288

This sounds really neat. Could you theoretically have a bahavior of a pony to behave like a house, so that said behavoir would switch to a pony. That could be used to avoid different clothing versions of characters and a whole bunch of giant hats for Rarity.

(btw: The placement of the effects seems still to be off when scaled)

@ StarStepPony: This is a human form but has all kinds of Rarity's giant hats and the episodes it was from http://fav.me/d4uf71f

>>36235
Didn't check with the new official version, but on v1.41 Test 1, the fan character Dr. Whooves is still the main one while the more show accurate Dr. Whoof is not.

The houses... look a bit out of place in my opinion, but okay. Perhaps you could add the ability to add animations to the houses, at least for when a pony enters or exits the house.

>>36293
>Didn't check with the new official version, but on v1.41 Test 1, the fan character Dr. Whooves is still the main one while the more show accurate Dr. Whoof is not.

Anonycat made a show-accurate Dr Whooves, but I'm not sure if it was included yet or not. (It still should be available at the old thread.)

>>36292
How'd you know the 'giant hat edition' was going to be my next project. '<0;D Thanks!

Also that is an awesome idea about having the ponies be a house to switch between other forms of themselves. So gala pinkie could seamlessly transition with real pinkie and pinkamina if you wanted. I'm liking this idea.

hi! i just wanted to thank you for adding the scrollbars! now i can reach the save button =)
Also i have a little problem with Celestia: when she walks, her legs don't move, like if the animation was paused.

Hi, any chance of getting Beery Punch's foal added to the list, i think her name is Pinchy?

>>36241
>You'll have to show me how exactly all that works for multi-platforms :) I am just an amature coder compared to you (but I'm sure you knew that). And btw, I did look at your interface for graphics and agree it's a good idea. I have had very little spare time though so I'm affraid the new feature doesn't use that yet. I'll work on tidying everything up.

Most of the work is done for me, thanks to the Mono project and Gtk. I "just" need to write a GUI and it'll work. The main bit will be writing all the bits that glue it together. Once that's done you could just throw some ponies at it, and the magic will happen for you.

No worries about doing your bit any time soon, by the time I finish I'll probably have changed everything again anyway :P

Anyway I am loving this houses thing. Awesome way to cycle ponies. My only complaint so far would be the freezing (you can tell when Piknie was chosen, because she takes like 10 seconds to load).

>>36292
>>36309
That does sound like an awesome idea. I'd love to see that.

>>36329
Try these images, they should work:
http://www.mediafire.com/?cnj51731w62a2qu

>>36333
i tried those images and this happened... it only happens when she's going to the right.
>pic

>>36338
Something... was extra weird with the right-facing images.

Double fixed: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?4tzu6xslym6pyhk

I'm a tad late, but here is some more Pinkie
http://www.mediafire.com/?a8e3da0gvmhd1gw (new file, I had to make a few corrections)
It has the rearing, galloping, a new sitting, the frontflip and the cake nom animation. I also I made some correction to some old stuff etc.

By the way: I noticed that the "Random Pony" has a folder but contains no actual animations. Maybe we could store the templates in there since they seem to be all over the place atm.

And there seem to be some bugs:
When you go into the editor and exit it without having done anything, saved options seem to get lost.
effects are misaligned when scaled
I couldn't pin this one down, but sometimes ponies aren't clickable and not in the forground. Although the cursor changes when hovering over the pony and the pony goes into the mouseover behavior, it can't be dragged or rightclicked and brings an unrelated window (firefox in my case) in the foreground (win 7 64bit). This also happened when I added a house and could click on the newly appeared ponies but not on those that were on screen before I added the house
Somepony mentioned also a behavior for appearing ponies like an animation that they would do when the first appear on screen. That would be nice for when they enter through the house.
The buildings are scaled with twice the scale amount (at least with 0,5 it's seems to be scaled by 0,25) (a different scaler for buildings wouldn't be so bad though since buildings could be rather larges and I can imagine those being used when you are working and can't have too many ponies)
also when I scaled by 2 and tried to rightclick on the house I got this
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>>36339
ok, i tried them and she was ok for a while (thank you) and then this showed up... is it bad?

How do you fix the screensaver so only a few selected ponies show up? Right now all the ponies appear on the screensaver, but I only want a few

>>36423

Double click on "Desktop Ponies.exe", and then click the "0 all ponies" button. Now go through the list in the big main window, and put a "1" in the "How many?" box of the ponies you want to have show up. Click the "save" button, and you'll be all set.

>>36425
Thanks man

Hey ponies,
I had a very strange bug where I left the DTPs alone for 15 mins. My laptop went into sleep mode, and when I came back, three ponies had disappeared and one new one spawned.

Before I left, I had:
Princess Celestia, the 6 main ponies (adult form), Trixie (caped) and Vinyl Scratch. I also had Trixie's Stage.

On return, AJ, Trixie, and Rarity had been replaced by Lightning Bolt.

Whilst writing this bug report, more shenanigans have occurred o.O

A second stage has appeared and Inkie Pie has spawned!

(For reference, that's 9 ponies + 1 stage --> 8 ponies and 2 stages)

I have error interactions on, and nothing was thrown.

Please keep up the great work, I love this program, and fully appreciate all the artists' time spent making the art and, being a Java/C#/C coder myself, the number of frustrated hours of pouring over code finding why things go wrong. Heck, if you want me to help with the code, I'd be willing to do that to :D
-Kjhf

>>36442
Derp, that's what the stage is supposed to do. Maybe confusing that ponies just spawn without any animations though? I was expecting ponies to "go inside" or at the very least be near the stage.

As for the duplicated stage? Don't think Trixie's stage can hold another one inside it :s

>>36444
They should go to the stage when they appear/go inside. If not it's a bug.

We could have animations for "going inside" and "coming out" (probably would just make these general "first appearance" and "quit" animations), however we'd need the artists to actually do that first.

But I'll go with the usual "build it and if they want it they will use it" method. :)

No more time to talk though - I am at Sakuracon! Take a look at these adorable plushies I got there.

oh, random idea!
along with using something like the houses thing to switch one pony to an alternate version of themselves, you can also have some ponies spawn certain other companion ponies.
the first example that comes to mind is having photo finish be the source of all of her minions. is there really much reason to have her minions without her?
another example: have rover spawn fido and spot
another: have each pony be the source for their pet.

Stony Pony?

>>36544
This is the Non OC thread, you should try the OC thread but instead of requesting, it would be appreciated if you tried it yourself first.

>>36538
I had a similar idea but forgot about it when I posted. Your idea requiers somthing like a list of affiliates for each pony but maybe the houses could spawn preferably those ponys/pets that have interactions with the ones that are on screen already

Hey, there's a pretty weird bug when having both Angel and Fluttershy. It seems Angel sometimes goes through the bottom of the desktop, dissappearing, and when Fluttershy tries to get near him she starts stuttering around. Is there something wrong in Angel's ini that is causing him to clip out of the desktop?

>>36550

I guess they should've called her...
*puts on sunglasses*
Stuttershy.
YEEEAAAH!

(Sorry)

Ideas everywhere. Blimey.

Anyway, the multi-platform version I've been working on is still very rough around the edges, but possibly worth demonstrating.

This file contains the programs you'll need and more information about getting it to work:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?aij32bbl7p72p5m

I was also able to modify the current test version just enough to run with my code to boot (see screenshot). It works, but it's pretty fragile so we'll just call it proof of concept for now. :P

If you fancy giving it a go, particularly if you're not on a Windows platform, let me know if you run into trouble getting it to run. Could be information worth chucking into the instructions so others don't have the same problems later.

It'll definitely be buggy once you get it running, so you don't need to worry about reporting any issues if you get that far.

I hate to write stuff like this.. but we have another one who claims to have created the icons all by himself:(
http://rocareta.deviantart.com/

The artist who haven't got a DA account should really make one. It would make reporting a lot easier. Maybe we could put other stuff in the "Random Pony" folder as well like known DA accounts of artists etc. I couldn't find all the original work to report all of the stolen art.

>>36642
I just point them to the Desktop Ponies main site for the ones that aren't on Deviantart.

At this point, I just plain put a warning on my uploads saying that there is no hope of getting away with stealing Desktop Ponies. We seem to find them every single time.

I've encountered dozens of art thieves on dA, about half a dozen even taking my own stuff, and I've noticed one constant:

They all like Cupcakes.

Seriously, every single last one has had Cupcakes specific art / edits. It's creepy.

>>36642

Maybe you guys should open a "Hall of Shame" on DP's homepage, detailing the names, DA accounts and quotes of the thieves?
Since they thrive on attention, having them exposed and unmasked on a site where they can't control what's being told about them should be enough to make other potential thieves re-consider stealing from you guys.

>>36651
Wait they thrive on attention so you want to give them more attention?

I don't think many of these 'thieves' are actually trying to pass themselves off as the original artists. They are just thinking of DA as an image sharing site like imageshack where they put images they find cool.

They need to be eductated that DA is for original work.

>>36660
I'm sorry to say, that's normally not the case (really, I am sorry).

Most will defend that its their original artwork until the bitter end. Check the comments on this latest one's submissions, for example. Many even like to add comments to the submission related to how they "made" the piece, how hard it was or things like "lol, did this quickly for fun, nothing special!", which can be pretty god damn insulting.

I don't know what goes on inside the heads of these people, but it makes me sad.

Is there a Java ponies update too?

>>36660

The last thief reported here is claiming to have made all the pony animations by himself.

The one caught before him also claimed the same.

The ones caught BEFORE them made similar claims and wanted extra praise for all of their "hard" work.

Whenever thay are caught they rush to hide the comments calling them on their lies and then block out people so they couldn't keep posting the truth about them.

Exposing them on a site they have no way possible to manipulate is a good way to deal with thieves, especially when they simply jump from a banned account to other to continue reposting DP's material as their own.

so, i selected the Cakes and Pinkie. then this appeared...

>>36642

The thief is now sending death threats to the people who called her on her theft and is desperately claiming that "She made the animations in 2010!" so Desktop Ponies stole from her.

>>36740
Too bad she has absolutely no proof and there are a ton of people all claiming she stole them...

>>36731
There's a bug when you minimize and then restore the window to/from the taskbar. You can avoid the error by never minimizing it.

>>36757
i see... ok then, thank you!

>>36288
Hey DPG, since you're looking for ideas, I have some I wanted to suggest to you. I don't know how difficult it would be to add these features (if you wanted to), but anyway...

I apologize in advance for my probably far too lengthy explanations.


#1 - Behavior Sets


Okay, so what I was thinking was the possibility to create "multiple states"-ponies by adding two (optional) parameters to the behaviors, like so:

Behavior,[...usual parameters...],"current behavior's value","target behavior's value"

"Current value" should be pretty self explanatory. "Target value" would be the value of the next behavior that's randomly chosen if available (obviously, it should have no effect on linked behaviors). Said values could be simple integers and simply default to zero. So if all behaviors are set to 0,0 (or not set at all if optional), nothing would change from the way ponies behave now. Let me make an example with Filly Pinkie Pie.

Filly Pinkie basically has two sets of animations, one with straight hair and one with curly hair. For the sake of this example, imagine that she'd also have transitional behaviours. Currently, the program would randomly chose between all available behaviors, but with the additional parameters, you could have two (or more) sets, like this:

[curly idle],0,0
[curly trot],0,0
[...]
[curly to straight],0,1
[straight idle],1,1
[straight trot],1,1
[...]
[straight to curly],1,0

See? By only randomly chosing from behaviors with the correct "target value", you can group together similar behaviors. You could, for example, have the Gala Dress ponies be part of the main ponies as a different set of behaviors. It's a bit like linked behaviors, but with the randomizer intact to allow a bit more freedom.

Of course, with interactions, you might want to add a parameter,too. This, too, could be an integer, checking for the "current value" of all participating ponies. It could default to "-1" for disregarding all "current values" (so it would basically behave like it does now).

It also ties into my second suggestion.



#2 - Reactions


For two or more ponies to interact, they have to have an interaction set, and they all have to start it at the same time. There's currently no way for a pony to independently react to something another pony is already doing (unless I missed something).

So, additionally to "behavior", "effect" and "speak", how about a new "reaction" group? It could go like this:

Reaction,"Ponyname","Probability","Proximity","Set","Behavior"

"Ponyname" is the name of the pony to interact with.
"Probability" and "Proximity" are just the same like for interactions.
"Set" would simply be the "current value" (as in my first suggestion) of the pony to interact with.
"Behavior" would be the name of the behavior to start when all conditions are met, obviously.

Example: Imagine that all behaviors of DJ-Pon3 making music would be set to the value of "1" with all others being "0"s. Characters with a "dance"-animation could start dancing when they approach her while she's making music by adding a simple line of code like, for example:

Reaction,"Vinyl Scratch",0.5,100,1,"dance"

Admittedly, I have no idea how demanding on the CPU this would be if alot of ponies with reactions were on screen, but maybe you like my suggestions anyway.

Heads up - I *think* that this person may be stealing?
http://charlie46.deviantart.com/gallery/36241628

And there's another artist on DA who isn't quite stealing per se (I don't think, anyway) but who IS selling trotting and flying ponies for $15 a pop and doesn't appear to be giving credit for the base or sharing profits or anything: http://jenetikitty.deviantart.com/journal/Commisions-CLOSED-255262964

>>36820

"charlie46" is stealing indeed, and has been hiding the posts calling him on his thefts and lies.

"jenetikitty" has already being called out on the issue of charging money for what's basically recolored splices of DP's pixel artists, but keeps ignoring everything, plus every time the issue was discussed here, some WhiteKnight immediately began defending her, insulted people and tried to confuse the entire issue.

Here is V1.41 TEST 2. Some minor changes, but some that have been asked for for some time:

http://www.mediafire.com/?qq5cseuwy846ner

Changes:
V1.41 TEST 2

-It was sometimes not possible to right click or drag a pony with scaling. Fixed.
-Clicking on a house with scaling could have led to a crash. Fixed.
-Effects are now centered properly when scaling is used.
-Ponies now appear in the main menu sorted by their name (as defined in the INI file)
-Main Menu quick find: After clicking once in the general pony list area, you can press a key to have the menu scroll down to the first pony who's name starts with that letter (just like in the editor).
-There is now a checkbox for "Don't Run Randomly" when creating a new behavior.
-New option for effects and behaviors in the editor: "Don't repeat animations". Will force animations to stop on their last frame after one loop, regardless how a gif file is set up.
-Mouseover speech is back.
-Dr Whooves is back to the show version.

>>36292
The effects thing should finally be fixed now.

>>36293
Whooves is fixed in the test version now. I just failed to copy him over.
I thought it would be stranger for ponies to just disappear on their own.

>>36329
Ah... I didn't notice that. Thanks for reporting it, i'll get that fixed.

>>36333
Yeah... but the loading freeze should only happen the first time a pony is loaded. I have them set to not unload images when entering the house again. On the other hand, this will make memory usage slowly creep up if you have all ponies set to cycle...

btw, I noticed that paint.net can easily fix broken GIFs and PNGs.

>>36342
The click-able thing and the crash should be fixed in the latest test version

>>36538
Oh Celestia, pony minions. I like that, but cringe at the work involved (although it really just is other ponies following...)

>>36550
Whoever set up Fluttershy and Angel up did them in a funky way - they are both set to follow each other and have follow offsets, so they just keep trying to circle each other and nosedive into the ground. I've been meaning to make it more sensible.

>>36665
Somepony mentioned to me that there is a bug in the current Java version, so I'll fix that soon, but I really did not have any intentions of updating it further. You should be able to copy any new ponies over to it and they should work (except for any new features).

>>36757
Or you can tell me and I'll fix it... That's a silly bug.

>>36779
Generally, any CPU usage from general processing pales in comparison to that needed by drawing the graphics, so I wouldn't worry about that part.

I like both of those ideas - although perhaps the "reactions" can be simplified into being just another possible trigger for interactions instead of just proximity.

http://jammed-jar.deviantart.com/ Is this the legit creator of those sprites? I thought that Rainbow Dash was made by monkeyjay but I'm not sure about those other specific animations.

>>36840
No he is not. He seems pretty arrogant too. Also he deleted my comment almost instantly. It was a pretty inspired one too. =*( Well he's been reported.

>>36825
That main menu quick finder is a good idea.

>>36779
That first one sound like a really good method to get that alternate same pony swapping to work. I hope it's something implementable.

>>36840

Wow.
Just wow.

His comments on the stolen submissions are so full of lies and hyperbole that I'm amazed he had the gall to have posted them in the first place.
"This one took me a lot of effort"
"This is my best one ever, it took me a lot of work"

It's so stupid that hurts.

>>36843
>>36844
welp, looks like that account is deactivated now. I reported some of the others myself also.

>>36849

The thief deactivated his account by himself to evade punishment. He will re-activate it later once people stops checking it out, and will happily resume his thieving spree.

This is a very habitual trick used by DA thieves but you still can browse their galleries if you copy their DA adress and paste it on Google.

http://charlie46.deviantart.com/

Small update: This clown is now disabling comments, hiding posts and kicking people out after they call him on his theft and provide links to prove it.

To reiterate: Letting thieves know you're on to them before you alert the admins and have them shut down is pretty much always counter-productive.

>>36865

The Admins can see hidden posts and individual submissions can be reported to DA's staff using the "Report this deviation" button found near the bottom right of the deviation's page.

>>36867

I tried reporting once, but there was no option that really applied. The option that came closest was "My Work Used", but that's not the case, because it's not *my* work.

>>36876
I'd say it's a copyright issue then.

To a more productive topic: when scaled (I dunno if it also applies if it's not scaled) but I've had the second test version runnung the whole day and some ponies seem to get stuck in front of the stage and reset the cycle in about 5 sec intervals (hous is set to 60seconds) and bob a tiny bit. They all gather in one spot. I had it happen with Granny Smith, Filly Dach and Snips so far.

And a question: How are the houses stored? I've seen that Trixie's stage is in the Trixie folder, I haven't really seen where the house settings are saved. Maybe the houses could have their own inis and folders along with pony templates in the "random pony" folder. I thought about houses with preset ponies. Like the tree library that would spawn Twilight, Spike, Owlouweajfhakljdfha owl; Suger Cube Corner that would spawn Pinkie, Gummy, Cake family, Ranch with Apple family and Winona etc and a regular house for background ponies.

>>36876
I think the closest option then is under "permission issues", because most likely, they have none.

>>36884

Ah, you're right. Somehow, I completely missed that option. Thank you!

>>36883
They do have their own folders with inis. The folders start with "House_". Or did you mean something else?

>>36886
I completely missed that *deeeeeeerp*

Does anypony have a properly sized and art-style compliant picture of Tom? I was thinking it would be hilarious to literally have a digital pet rock, who would never move.

I was thinking of adding little interactions, like having Rarity be attracted to Tom or something. Maybe even give the boulder something really subtle like a floating heart.

Anyways, I am crap at starting images, and was wondering if a Tom "pony" already existed.

>>36567
Hats off for the GTK implementation :) I considered considered trying to do this a while back, but couldn't wrap my head around the code... I should have probably just submitted cleanup patches, but the Sirens were singing of Python to me :D

Running `mono Desktop\ Ponies.exe` results in 'The entry point method could not be loaded', but `mono C#\ Desktop\ Ponies.exe` works fine. As you indicated, there are bugs when it gets up and running, but its a great start :)

>>36929
I don't recall who made this off the top of my head, but if you make something out of it I'll dig that info up.

>>36939
I think it was Anonycat.

>>36935
Oh wow it's top to see you here. Browsing your source was immensely helpful whilst I was trying to get started, it must be said.

I don't know if you've considered it, but from what I can gather if it's possible to use http://ironpython.net/ you could jump onto the CLR stack. Then you could do your stuff in Python, but it would run happily alongside the existing VB/C#. Just throwing it out there (Linux/GTK is not my strength, so I'd happily defer to anypony who had half a clue how to do it better).

http://charlie46.deviantart.com/

Hey guys, I just found out that this stupid moron is now harrasing DeathPony after he called her out on the theft of his animations.
The little bitch is playing the rage/drama cards and -check this- is trying to get DeathPony banned from Deviantart for "lies, slander and ruining her good name")
Oh and she's reuploading the stolen animations that were taken down by DA's staff.

A little help here, please? I already reported her, but you know how lazy Deviantart Mods can be unless they receive several reports regarding the same issue.

>>36939
Thank you very much, this is perfect.

Seriously, has nopony considered opening an official deviantart group or forum for the Desktop Ponies project? That way the fake reuploads may be reduced.
Or at least, isn't there a way for the artists to add their name to the gif files? I'm pretty sure there is a metatag for author or something similar available to add.

>>36984
That's a pretty good idea haha. I mean people are going to take the stuff anyway, as long as they don't claim they created itit might be nice to have a deviantart link to .. link .. back to.

>>36968
also that person (if we believe the profile) is a 12 year old girl with like 10 watchers. Probably ignoring her is fine.. haha

>>36991
Artists really need to get their stuff up on DA as soon as (or before) posting it in these threads. That way, theft reports can be dealt much easier.

http://pumpkinc.deviantart.com/art/derpy-284681243

Report on this thief: SHE MAD
Very, very mad and spewing out death threats/lies/flames to harras people into leaving her and "her" Derpy Hooves animations alone.

>>37003

Its amazing what people do for attention.

>>37004

She submited the stolen animations to DA groups and is currently trying to get support from them.
She's also harrasing Anonycat and accusing him of being a thief to get him banned from Deviantart.

So basically him and DeathPony are thieves now? Interesting, I had no idea they were stealing their own work, but again, that's what a disturbed girl would spew out to save her piddly flank.

>>36995

Monkeyjay and PonyNoia need a DA gallery so badly because they are among the most frequent theft victims here.

I've got a quick question. Are the tweaks and such that I posted here...

>>35997

... going to be included in the program? I ask only because I saw that it wasn't included in the latest test version, and thought I'd see if it was rejected, or missed.

>>37006
I just haven't gotten around to adding all the art updates yet. I usually do that as a last step after all the new features have been put in (and tested as least for a bit). But I should have that done soon (ish).

>>37005

... she looks like a mentally deranged woman.
I mean, she looks creepy on the pics she posted on her DA gallery, but being stupid enough to try to do THAT is already on the mentally disturbed territory.

You know guys? This is the price you all had to pay for being this awesome.
You always will end up attracting lowlifes like that creepy woman who feel like stealing from you will make them fit in on the crowd.

>>37008
By the way, I'm done and going through the art now.

And Bot-chan: I apologize for not getting to it until now, but that conga-line setup is awesome. (and will be included in the next version) :)

Re: thieves. I don't think a "hall of shame" is a good idea, but how about if I post all the old ponychan threads on the web site (I keep all of them after they are locked and die). You'd at least be able to refer back to them.

But anyway... V1.41 TEST 3 is out.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?xbhqguffcf6u7x3

Changes since TEST 2:

-Simply minimizing the main menu will no longer cause a crash.
-Behaviors and Speeches have a new setting: "group". Using this you can combine a set of behaviors into different groups, so that ponies can change state.
For example: FlutterShy and Gala Fluttershy have been combined. FlutterShy will go into "gala" mode only if she runs her "goto_gala" behavior, and will stay in Gala mode only running behaviors in that group until she runs her "leave_gala" behavior, which links back to the normal group. These transition behaviors are simply linked (or "chained") behaviors. If you wanted to put a transition animation in, you would do to in these two behaviors.
A pony may also change states if they leave a house. Note that group 0 is a wild card - behaviors in this group will play regardless of what state the pony is in.
-The editor will no longer refresh and reprocess items every time you make a change. To ensure that all data is valid and to regenerate the list of chained behaviors and other items, click the new "Apply/Refresh/Validate" button. I know DeathPony will be happy about this, but don't forget to press that validate button - you could end up seeing confusing things if you don't.
-The editor will now warn you if the pony you are working with has duplicate names for behaviors, effects, speeches, or interactions.

Pony changes/updates:
-Dr. Whoof has had categories applied.
-Fluttershy has been combined with Gala Fluttershy (see "groups" feature as mentioned above).
-Fluttershy's behaviors have been cleaned up, notably the angel follow behaviors which were malfunctioning.
-Cape-less Trixie has been combined with normal Trixie. Also an example of behavior grouping.
-Suit-less Spitfire has been combined with Normal Spitfire.
-Big Celestia's images have been fixed thanks to RoosterDragon; she can walk again!
-Conga line interaction between the mane 6 - Bot-chan
-Pinkie Pie updates by DeathPony
-Derpy and Rarity updates by The Coop (Rarity Tantrum, Derpy sitting fix, Drama Couch fix, rarity sleeping fix, etc)
-Additional AppleFritter animations by vulcan539
-Archer by vulcan539
-Allie Way (Bowling pony) by Bot-Chan
-Berry Bunch updates (from OC ponies; I reconsidered) by CANDYBAG
-Rarity Fashion show by StarStep
-CMC skipping by The Coop
-Additional Mysterious Mare Do Well and Rainbow Dash animations by DrZoin
-Rarity's Parents by Bot-Chan
-Ruby (Berry?) Pinch by Azure Fang
-Sparkler (Amethyst Star) by vulcan539
-Naked Trixie pixel fix by ???
-Pinkie Pie GDI error (saltoend_right, teleporreappear_right) fixes by StarStep
-Twilight Drag by StarStep
-Iron Will by StarStep
-All of the PNG files have been re-saved with a program that I think will fix any remaining issues with them (randomly being displayed large).

As always, let me know if I missed/forgot/ignored anything or anypony. I know it's been a while since the last art update.

>>37020
Ok, well... my web host apparently did NOT like my idea of putting the old ponychan threads up there at all... They took it down to "review" it...

>>37020
First of all: yay for behavior groups. Works great so far.

2nd: Don't worry about not including the conga line earlier. I'm still not quite happy with the timing issues, but anyway, glad you like it. :)

3rd: Just in case you missed it, there's still that one bug where, if all necessary ponies for an interaction were loaded and then you quit one of them, the remaining ones will still start the interaction as if that other pony was still there.

4th: Don't ask me why or how, but at times, the save and/or load on the main and/or options screen doesn't quite work as intended. I know I'm being very vague here, but that's because I couldn't detect a pattern to this bug yet.

5th: Tried adding Trixie's stage. After a while, Fluttershy started twitching, than vanished. Now the vanishing part I understand as being a house feature, but I doubt that the twitching was supposed to be there. Happened during the startup of the conga interaction.

6th: When loading lots of ponies at once (just about 105 or something), it gave me an error message after a while. It didn't crash the program (and I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary after that), but you might still want to take a look at it (hope it helps despite being partly in german). Here it is:

Informationen über das Aufrufen von JIT-Debuggen
anstelle dieses Dialogfelds finden Sie am Ende dieser Meldung.

************** Ausnahmetext **************
System.NullReferenceException: Der Objektverweis wurde nicht auf eine Objektinstanz festgelegt.
bei Desktop_Ponies.Pony.Paint()
bei Desktop_Ponies.Pony.Move()
bei Desktop_Ponies.Pony.Update(TimeSpan elaspedTime)
bei Desktop_Ponies.Main.Pony_DoAction()
bei Desktop_Ponies.Main._Lambda$__6(Object a0, EventArgs a1)
bei System.Windows.Forms.Timer.OnTick(EventArgs e)
bei System.Windows.Forms.Timer.TimerNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
bei System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Geladene Assemblys **************
mscorlib
Assembly-Version: 2.0.0.0.
Win32-Version: 2.0.50727.5448 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400).
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll.
----------------------------------------
Desktop Ponies
Assembly-Version: 1.0.0.0.
Win32-Version: 1.0.0.0.
CodeBase: file:///D:/Toni2/Desktop%20Ponies%20V1.41%20TEST%20VERSION%203/Desktop%20Ponies.exe.
----------------------------------------
Microsoft.VisualBasic
Assembly-Version: 8.0.0.0.
Win32-Version: 8.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400).
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Microsoft.VisualBasic/8.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll.
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly-Version: 2.0.0.0.
Win32-Version: 2.0.50727.5453 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400).
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll.
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly-Version: 2.0.0.0.
Win32-Version: 2.0.50727.5446 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400).
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll.
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly-Version: 2.0.0.0.
Win32-Version: 2.0.50727.5458 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400).
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll.
----------------------------------------
System.Runtime.Remoting
Assembly-Version: 2.0.0.0.
Win32-Version: 2.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400).
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Runtime.Remoting/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Runtime.Remoting.dll.
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly-Version: 2.0.0.0.
Win32-Version: 2.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400).
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll.
----------------------------------------
mscorlib.resources
Assembly-Version: 2.0.0.0.
Win32-Version: 2.0.50727.5448 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400).
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll.
----------------------------------------
System.Core
Assembly-Version: 3.5.0.0.
Win32-Version: 3.5.30729.5420 built by: Win7SP1.
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Core/3.5.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Core.dll.
----------------------------------------
Microsoft.DirectX.AudioVideoPlayback
Assembly-Version: 1.0.2902.0.
Win32-Version: 5.04.00.2904.
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC/Microsoft.DirectX.AudioVideoPlayback/1.0.2902.0__31bf3856ad364e35/Microsoft.DirectX.Audi
oVideoPlayback.dll.
----------------------------------------
Accessibility
Assembly-Version: 2.0.0.0.
Win32-Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900).
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Accessibility.dll.
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms.resources
Assembly-Version: 2.0.0.0.
Win32-Version: 2.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400).
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms.resources/2.0.0.0_de_b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.res
ources.dll.
----------------------------------------
Microsoft.DirectX
Assembly-Version: 1.0.2902.0.
Win32-Version: 5.04.00.2904.
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC/Microsoft.DirectX/1.0.2902.0__31bf3856ad364e35/Microsoft.DirectX.dll.
----------------------------------------

************** JIT-Debuggen **************
Um das JIT-Debuggen (Just-In-Time) zu aktivieren, muss in der
Konfigurationsdatei der Anwendung oder des Computers
(machine.config) der jitDebugging-Wert im Abschnitt system.windows.forms festgelegt werden.
Die Anwendung muss mit aktiviertem Debuggen kompiliert werden.

Zum Beispiel:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

Wenn das JIT-Debuggen aktiviert ist, werden alle nicht behandelten
Ausnahmen an den JIT-Debugger gesendet, der auf dem
Computer registriert ist, und nicht in diesem Dialogfeld behandelt.

>>37020
You added groups already? What are you, some kind of wizard?

>>37028
I was able to pin down this bug as something to do with the config of MMDW. One of the behaviours is missing a follow-moving behaviour I think.

>>37020
>Re: thieves. I don't think a "hall of shame" is a good idea, but how about if I post all the old ponychan threads on the web site (I keep all of them after they are locked and die). You'd at least be able to refer back to them.

>>37020
>Ok, well... my web host apparently did NOT like my idea of putting the old ponychan threads up there at all... They took it down to "review" it...

So can we assume the thieves won? Dammit.

>>37020
I think I'm narrowing the strange behavior for loading/saving down (among other things), so here are my findings:

Starting the pony editor and quitting it without selecting a pony will reset the options.

Selecting a pony before quitting will do the same, but also set all pony amounts to 0.

Using "load" in the option screen will also load the pony amounts in the main screen. Using "load" in the main screen doesn't change the settings in the option screen at least.

For saving, it's the other way round: "Save" in the main screen will also save the current options. "Save" in the option screen will leave the ponies alone.

>>37034
When I have an entire Saturday to do nothing but ponies, I can get stuff done.

Bingo on the bug source - you needed to have one Mysterious Mare that was just outside the window to make her want to walk back into range.

The problem was that some of her behaviors are set to NOT automatically select the appropriate images for following (we are "following" the point on the screen she needs to be at), but did not specify what behaviors to use (something the editor does not allow). I'll fix her behaviors and catch this odd condition as well. Thanks.

>>37047
The stuff I was uploading was made by using the "save page as - web page, complete" option in Firefox - I didn't realize that saved all the scripts too, so it tripped the alarm. They should be okay with me uploading it with scripts removed (that is if they decide that ponies are not malicious).

>>37048
The first two are bugs, and I'll see about fixing them. The other two are half-way intentional as I wanted the main screen to only work with the counts. Looks like that's not exactly what is happening. Thanks.

>>37050

Desktop Ponies's homepage is down for some reason.

>>37050
You're welcome.
Personally, I think it's best (and less confusing) for both screens to just save/load their settings independently from each other. (Maybe that's what you were trying to do all along. I didn't quite get the "half-intentional" part.)

i would like to help make some but how does this work. Oh and when i try to play hoof ball pinkie never shows up.

i would like to help make some but how does this work. Oh and when i try to play hoof ball pinkie never shows up.

i would like to help make some but how does this work. Oh and when i try to play hoof ball pinkie never shows up.

>>37056
I think we got you the first two times. No need to repeat yourself over and over again.

As for how it works: basically, you create the sprites, and then you create the pony.ini (or use the built in pony editor). Is there something specific you need assistance with?

>>37057

The board is derping at the moment and gives constant errors. It's not unreasonable to assume that he tried to post once, got an error, tried to post again, got an error again, and then posted for a third time.

>>37058
Oh. In this case I apologize. :)

I'm sure somepony else may have mentioned this, but...
Every time I run the .exe, I get an error saying that there are no ponies, and that I should have at least had a derpy folder in the same spot. When I tried "load" I also get an error message.

I have the entire zip, what do?

>>37060
Did you extract the whole .zip folder first? You need to do that before you try running anything.

>>37062
I feel stupid now.

But yeah, it worked.

Thanks!

>>37054

If you don't even know how to create a sprite then you shouldn't try to "help".

Read this guide to get some questions answered, too: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExhCvTQar75bNHlOhEo6V-HgjWMb18lzZsiWNbaWSFk/edit

>>37052
[Sigh]
"... the system administrator ... is currently checking this website for malicious content. This redirect page will be removed once we finish manually checking all files on this account. ... it can take about 2-4 hours to complete."
2-4 hours? Yeah right...
Thank goodness I managed to help my little sister to download it back in my home country the day before they removed the website.
On the other hand Thank you for the Project I thoroughly enjoyed it! (My first time posting on PonyChan.)
I hope that I can learn to use the Photoshop soon, I want to make an animation of Derpy and Dinky hugging and nuzzling each other~ [smiles]

Anypony know anything about the My Little Pony Live Wallpaper for Android by ov3rk1ll?
It appears to be a port of Desktop Ponies on the Google Play marketplace. It's a free app but just thought I should mention it.

>>37084
Yeah, it's approved by the project and is featured on the DesktopPonies homepage (you'll see when it comes back online)

>>37028
Could you check to see if this version fixes the twitching? http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?z2o6nj84zhyx06r
(1.41 TEST 4). Just replace your exe

>>37099
I don't know about "approved", but it is mentioned.

>>37082
You're welcome. And I guess it takes a while to determine if Pinkie Pie is really dangerous or not.

>>37109
Well, that's mostly what I intended to refer to.
BTW how did you try to put the archied threads in your site? Did you just copy the html files and everything? You should've just put all the files as downloadable zips (some recurring threads around here do that)

>>37109
Yeah, I think that fixed it. :)

>>37109
Pinkie is dangerous! Who knows if she could accidentally tear a hole between dimensions or cause some other cataclysmic event. I don't think denying her access on a website is going to change the percentage of that happening but to deny Pinkie's dangerousness is a fool's move indeed.

Also I think they mistyped when they wrote 2-4 hours because its been 2-4 days.

>>37082
Yeah I am the same person here...
I am not really sure what happened, but I don't think I like where the main website is going.
Typing the main web adress lead me to this link:
http://error404.000webhost.com/?
I am not a computer-savvy person, let me tell you this, but my instinct say that this is not the "I am going to check for problems" kind, but the "what website? It doesn't exist" kind?!
Please reconfirm this, as I am concerned about the missing site.
And I apologise first hand if I sound too rude or demanding at this point.

>>37333
Yeah it looks pretty borked.

The old .co.cc domain is still functioning, though. Might be worth bringing that back for a little bit until the host sorts their mess out.

>>37333
Working on it as I type.

In the mean time, here is the final version of V1.41:

http://www.mediafire.com/?4obmwu7l8xebud4

Changes:

-AppleJack will put on her NMN constume less often.
-Pinkie pie will put on her silly mask less often (it was set to 70% instead of 7%?)
-Mysterious Mare-do-Well had some invalid behavior options that caused a crash sometimes. Fixed.
-Quitting a pony that is involved in an interaction will now cancel the interaction.
-Occationally ponies wouldn't enter a house and got stuck in a loop. Fixed.
-The cancel button on the house options menu works now.
-Flickering when a pony reached their destination has hopefully been reduced.
-A rare crash caused by trying to draw() a negative frame # has been fixed.

-Also includes all test version changes.

Aaaand the site is back. Awesome.

>>37354
Nice DPG!

Another bug(?) for you on the last version you posted:
if I left click on the desktop, the ponies are all minimised / hidden.

Simply being on the desktop does not hide the ponies. Clicking it does. Further, opening any other application shows the ponies again.

Using Windows 7.

Only happens if the "suspend and hide ponies when full screen application ..." option is checked.

Please keep up the great work :D

Did you update Java Ponies as well?

now that there's the group thing, should pinkamina be made part of normal pinkie?

also, did you put in some specific exception that lets the pinkacopter ignore boundaries? because pinkie goes off the side of my screen every time she uses it. it could be a bug, but if it was intentional, i like it!

>>37368
Oops. There's always something left to do, huh?

>>37372
Yes, just now, here: http://www.mediafire.com/?oeqi4uqw1hoy0ik
(V1.25.1)

It only has updated art and 1 bug fix. No new features.

>>37404
No... that's just Pinkie being Pinkie. I'll have to take a look to see what she is doing there.

>>37367
The old ponychan threads are also linked on the main page as well, but this time as zip files so to avoid trouble.

Just a question
Is there anypony working on Chrysalis or Cadence?

>>37412
I'm working on Chrysalis, might have it fully complete in two days if I'm not lazy

I am ON Shining Armor and Cadance!

sweet cant wait, perhaps when they are done ill begin to actual use the program [have it but never really used it]

Animated blink on Shining Armor - I cheated and just modified Fancypants' base a bit instead of doing it from scratch. Posting to ask if anypony can see any problems I missed.

Got a bit bored of making her walk sprite so I made quick blink sprite.

>>37439
That's really slow for a blink animation

>>37440
Yeah, will change it later, also could you send me a picture of the Princess Cadence you're working on so I can make Chrysalis transform into her?

>>37439
Wow you got that done pretty fast. I was working on a prototype for her too. Anyway, suggestions would be that there is a heck of a lot of subpixelation going on in that sprite. With the hair especially and with bits of the body as well. Also it kind of looks like she is turned slightly away from the screen and we are looking up a bit at her instead of being a straight on sideways shot. Also I don't see her antenna things. Sorry to nitpick you like that. Anyway it's a decent start but it needs a bit of work. I wish you luck.

>>37433
Nice. I would say that the chest looks a little too rounded for him and maybe make his snout a little different. It seems a bit different looking than it is in the show. Good luck with him.

Also yay for the site being back up and new version out!

>>37451
yeah I kinda forgot about the antenna while making it and for the fact the view ins't straight on is because I was using a image from the episode to make it, though I kind of like it this way.

I wish I was able to do what you guys do. But I am fine with just drawing them. [note, unfinished]

Ok I have a few suggestions.

First can you add a min - max ponies out option for the houses. I started with 7 ponies then it quickly went down to 1. For a moment there I thought it wasn't capable of adding a pony. It went back and forth for over half an hour between 1 and 2 ponies out before finally getting up to 3. That is just too few ponies and when ever I add some more they quickly disappear til its back to 1-3 ponies.

Next the black parts of the static images are showing up as transparent. I was wondering if we should change all static images to gif files. Changing from a png to a gif fixed the problem on my end and there always seems to be something going wrong with those static images so making them gifs like every other image in the program may prevent future brokenness.

>>37473
Looking good so far. I wish I could make nice looking pictures like you do too. Do you have to have a tablet to make pictures like that? I just can't figure out how to make nice looking big pictures with just my mouse.

I've given up on making Chrysalis due to not having enough skill finish it so I'll just post what I've done, feel free to edit it and finish it.

A pesky thing with Chrysalis is the semi-transparency on her wings. And GIFs only support binary (on or off) transparency.

Also, I found an interesting presentation that might be good inspiration regarding groups 'n stuff:
http://valvesoftware.com/publications/2012/GDC2012_Ruskin_Elan_DynamicDialog.pdf

>>37485
Is this running on XP? XP has an annoying bug where black must be used as the colour that renders as transparent. Gif images are silently changed so the black is not-quite-black. Static images... pretty sure it's my fault for overlooking those :/

So yeah, the easiest solution would be saving them as gif files until that bug is fixed.

As far as the first issue, min/max sounds useful, but it sounds like it'd just be masking the real issue in that ponies are removed faster than they spawn.

I feel S2 Luna is VERY inaccurate and almost like no one cares for S2 Luna, she an't do anything! So I;m making a new base for her from mostly scratch using vector references. I'd love to animate her too, but I doubt I have the time. I also recolored Celestia to look more show acurate/less white.
I didn't touch her hair.

>>37498
A good part of that could be that fluid manes like Celestia, Luna and Nightmare Moon have are a nightmare to try to animate well. Nightmare Moon is also pretty inaccurate and bugs me so I've been slowly redoing her, but getting her mane and tail to roil and twinkle without looking bad is really difficult.

>>37499
I ain't animating her hair, no bloody way. Besides, the original had fine hair, her body and legs were just WRONG in every way. Her flank was fat and her legs skinny. :[

>>37498
Well, there are quite a lot of ponies that are not able to do anything besides standing or trotting around. I am curious though to learn more about the blatant inaccuracies I seem to have missed. :)

>>37500
Just saying that season 2 Luna has sooo many inaccuracies and is being ignored because she has very few actions and then not doing anything about it yourself comes off as whining. If you really want Luna to have more actions then I'd suggest you go out and do something about it (and share the sprites if you do; I'd love to see them!). I love season 2 Luna too, but quite frankly giving her even so simple an action as an on-model flying sprite will be crazy hard, because the Princess body type is atypical, so you'd have to draw and animate every frame of every new action you want, and then add in animating her hair. Most people here look at that workload and go EH SHE'S GOOD ENOUGH, and (if they make any ponies at all) typically go on to create those who already have a working animated base.

I mean heck I created all of the current season 1 Luna sprites except for Luna bouncing around. Her flying sprite is not on-model. Why? Because I haven't retooled her wings so that they're Luna wings and not generic pegasi wings yet. It's much easier to use a base that somepony else provided than draw everything frame by frame yourself.

>>37502
... oh, and Luna using her magic. I didn't do that one either - or, rather, I didn't add in the magic glow around her horn.

>>37503
I am doing something about it. :/

>>37497
Yeah it's XP. Anyway even if it did get fixed to 50% for either add or subtract, it would be nice to be able to set the min max yourself.

>>37502
Yeah I give props to those who have tackled the princesses' hair. While I have made a bunch of custom animations, redoing that hair to be able to make different animations is a little intimidating.

>>37505
I give props to anypony who makes custom animations. I'm doing Cadance from scratch rn and seriously, you guys are all heroes.

Cadance thus far - concrit appreciated

And here's Shining Armor after I fiddled with him a bit more.

>>37509
>>37511
I'm liking these.

Here's my Luna's I made. Top is new S1 Luna, then new S2 Luna, orginal S2 and S1 Lunas, recolored Celestia, parts of new Luna for making more sprites/similar shaped ponies, and double sized versions to show their DP size.
I'm rather proud of them, but Animating will be a NIGHTMARE, so I'll focus on personal projects for now.

If anypony who is doing Chrysalis, I can continue posting updates on it for a reference? [As I work on it, spending a lot of time doing it.]

>>37485
Thanks very much, and no I don't use a tablet. I use my mouse haha. I tried something new with this one however. Almost all of the lines are made up of straight lines. There are only a few spots where I actually had to umm whatever, use the mouse to select the parts that were much to round.

>>37509 I think it is looking good so far, but I don't do that kind of stuff.

>>37513
At least you don't have to animate Chaos Moon, his mane and tail are probably worse, not to mention the other parts of him....Care to see and confirm? lol

Speaking of custom animations, I realized that still after all this time we never did add a stand for Diamond Mint to go with the gala trot I made, so I finally did that so she can be added. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35213087/Diamond%20Mint.zip
Thanks to Starly for the initial design of her.

>>37509
Looking pretty good. One thing is the gradient. I think it should be in the darker colors for just a little bit longer before going to the really light colors, though mainly just for the tail. I'm glad that you are putting such details in it.

>>37511
He looks much better :)

>>37513
I'm glad you are making s1 luna look more mature. I must say something seems a little off on that cutie mark. Also it looks weird how her back leg curves in so much near the bottom.

>>37509
I think... the forelegs may be a bit off. The one in the back at least.

Everything else looks great :)

>>37530
The back foreleg or front hindleg?

>>37531
Well, I did say foreleg, didn't I? So unless forelegs can be on the back, too, you shouldn't have to much trouble finding the right one (which, incidentally, *is* her right one... but the left, back one from the viewer). Or one could say it's her right "arm" (the one that's partly in the back (but not her back, because who would want arms on their back, really?)

Shall I go on? It can only get more confusing from here. ;)

(This post was originally by RealismFactors and got caught in the spamfilter. Pasted here in case the text got lost. If you want to repost this with whatever image you were using, report this one for deletion.)

And magic, as well as Luna's hair are both semi transparent. It's just not going to look right as GIFs.

Do you have a source control repository? You really should use one for any programming project that takes more than one day. Assembla.com offers free hosting. I use it myself.

Another cool thing would be if the ponies knew of the windows and used them for their animations. Like sitting on the border and such.

Extending that idea, perhaps ponies should even react to application specific events. The music ponies reacting to a music player or perhaps pinkie pie reacting to a notification balloon. You don't have to use remote process memory snooping here. Some applications allow plugins, while others have window messages and what not. There is also the accesibility support system, it exposes a lot of controls (like buttons, menubars and what not). There is a lot of potential events here.

Pinkie Pie started a conga line while AJ and Twilight were having the truck conversation, interrupting it. This shouldn't be allowed.

Also, here is a nice idea, have the ponies avoid the y position of any carrets on the screen, you don't want to have them interfering with typing.

Something I have noticed is that the conga line isn't as well animated as it could be. The ponies are a little slow on realizing that

the line has ended. And then there is the offset between each pony, it just doesn't look like they are using the hooves to support themselves. And of course there is the way the line is started. They all cluster on one spot, which looks strange.

Another thing I have noticed is that a lot of animations (the sonic rainboom and the congaline in particular) seem to start in a direction where they will not have enough space and have to turn. which doesn't look very nice.

A minor issue about the sound clips is that most of them seem to be unlinked with animations. This makes it look strange. Following on

that, some animations should be bared from speaking in text too. I have seen Twilight speaking in a text bubble while teleported out...

When it comes to speech there is again the issue of animations not fitting the text. When a scene (like the AJ/Twilight truck one) is playing they may not look correct. Twilight is not going to sit down and study in the middle of a conversation.

Another thing is that some animations may run too often, it would be nice to have some cooldowns on the animations. Especially when two animations run directly after each other.

Something that I think would help with giving the ponies character would be to implement a bit of a mood system. It is jarring to see strong mood swings.

There is also the text bubbles not always matching the position of the ponies, especially when the pony is running.

The context menus for the ponies could use a little rephrasing. The word quit seems to be over used a little. And the entries lack keyboard accesors. Just throw in those &ampersands and let windows do the rest.

I took a look at the source code. I am not going to start a language war. Instead I would like to point out that you might want to use the Strategy design pattern.

Finally, I would like to have a taskbar button for the application. It is just the right thing to do as a windows application.

>>37535
> Another of RealismFactors 's typical walls of text, full of his trademarked finicky critics and absurd requests.

Dude, seriously. Critics and suggestions are good, nopony is going to deny that. But you have this annoying habit of taking them to absurd extremes and on top of that you tend to use this unnerving smug tone that can be sumed up as "You know nothing, at all, only my opinion is correct, this is what you have to do, I will never shut up or go away untill you do it."

Please read this guide before posting again: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExhCvTQar75bNHlOhEo6V-HgjWMb18lzZsiWNbaWSFk/edit

And please remember this isn't the PonyKart thread, so you will not get any special treat here.

>>37533
lol OKAY YES I THOUGHT SO but I don't know it was like 3 in the morning so I wanted to doublecheck that you didn't mean the back leg in the foreground just in case >>

Things get confusing when it's late.

>>37535
>Finally, I would like to have a taskbar button for the application. It is just the right thing to do as a windows application.

Please No. My taskbar is already cluttered as is most of the time and I would hate to have that.

>the conga line isn't as well animated as it could be
What don't you like about my animation? Anyway for the start I originally tried to have a delayed follow sequence set up where each pony would one by one join up in the conga line but it made the entire interaction pretty long and sometimes I would end up with 2 conga lines if a pony was slow on getting in line. Botchan's implementation of starting the conga line works but if you can figure out how to implement it better than I would love to hear it.

>>37533
How's this?

>>37538
Heh, just be glad that the show this project is based on is not called "My Little Spiders". ;)

>>37535
I'm fully aware of the conga line code not being flawless, but if you know of a better and more efficient way to code it, be my guest. :)

>>37540
I like it :)

>>37540

>>37533
How's this?

Why did I heard that with Luna's voice?

Good Cadence, by the way.

>>37537
Yes, I do tend to be very critic. I am blunt and I speak my mind. But the fact that I speak at all shows that I care about the project and I do in fact think that it is a nice project.

If you think that something I suggested is absurd then point it out. If you are referring to the application event stuff, then yes, I do agree. It is a bit absurd. But I didn't mention anything impossible.

And now time for some kind words:

There are good things worth noting too. The application is quite stable, I have not noticed any serious errors, no drawing failures (as opposed to the java version) and there are nearly no instances of an animation not matching position wise with the previous animation. And of course there is the fact that all animations are well made, major props to all the animators!

>>37539
Now for that conga line, I am afraid that I haven't used basic in many years, so I doubt that I could code anything decent in it. And I can't quite say that I get the current animation system used here. I am simply not familiar enough with it.
But main animation issue there has to be the initial clustering. Too many ponies on a too small area. Maybe they could move to the correct spot in the to be line directly instead of slowly picking up then end as their following target starts moving out?

The offsets between the ponies need a little work too. Right now the hooves touch somewhere in the tail. I think that the best solution to that is to ditch the per animation offsets and instead define action points on the sprites. Then the animations can be automatically positioned so that the correct action spots touch.

As for the taskbar button, it is just how applications are supposed to work on windows.I suppose that a notification icon could be used instead, but I still prefer plain old taskbar buttons. Are you using an old version of Windows? Windows 7 has these nice small buttons that I like.

Finally a small detail, how about some saved settings? It would be nice to be able to skip the initial config window each time you launch the application.

>>37541
scream no

Oh, and one more thing I wish could be improved is the lack of context sensitivity for the animations. Right now the main example is starting off some interaction without the target pony being there.

But as things get more complicated, more context is needed. The presentation I linked to before shows what one can do with a little more features. The key feature there that I miss here is characters having memory. The presentation really shows what can be done using memory. It is not much, but it does add that extra level of believability to the characters.

But in the end, what really helps the most is just plain hard work on creating content. Again, major props to the animators. Keep at it.

>>37551
>>37549

Once again, this is not the Pony kart thread, so you have no special treat or special considerations here.
In THIS thread, the only way as people would take you seriously is if you become an artist and supply art for the project.

Since you aren't providing anything, all of your post can be labeled as tl;dr and nothing of value will be lost.

I am reporting this thread to the staff s so they could prevent any deraimlent or revenge spamming, after all this project is one of the most friendly and spam-free thread you could find here and we would like to see it staying that way.

>>37549
Like I said, I'm aware of these problems. I don't much like the initial clustering and I'm not to fond of the timing/distance issues the ponies have, either, but if there was an obvious way to change it to match your suggestions, I would have done so already.

Sadly, stuff like moving the ponies to their correct positions from the get-go doesn't work (in the current version of the program at least) because you never know in which direction the conga line will go. And action points? Now these are news to me. How would these work?

Having suggestions is totally fine and all, and I'd say you do have some pretty interesting ones. Problem is, it looks like you haven't really familiarized yourself with the program (or you'd at least have noticed that, yes, pony speeches can appear at random as well as being linked to specific animations, and it's actually a feature, not a bug). And you don't really seem to have any ideas how one would go about implementing your ideas. It's like somepony saying "Hey, you should make a machine that transforms toxic waste into tap water". Wonderful suggestion, that's for sure, but useless without an idea how to make that happen.

Okay, so I exaggerated, but eh, you know what I mean. :)

Anyway, don't let this stop you from suggesting. You never know what gets added after all.

>>37552
Not to scoff at your friendly and spam-free rant, but I do think that there are more ways to contribute to this program than just by supplying art - reporting possible bugs and suggesting possible improvements being two of them.

>>37553
I did notice that speech can be linked to specific animations as well as just showing up randomly. I am not sure when I implied I didn't know that. Please explain why you think I didn't know this.

>>37553
Actionpoints is just an idea at this point, but the idea is simple, each frame/animation simply has a named spot. Like the door spot for the houses. Behaviors would then be able to use these positions to link up animations to a spot different from the so labeled "image center".

As for the conga line and not knowing the positions beforehand? I am afraid that would require special VB code of some sort. Right now the conga line is just a quite clever setup that not quite manages to, well, manage the full action from a bigger scope than just one pony at a time.

>>37552
I was not aware that I was being given any special privileges anywhere.

If somepony wants to ignore my ramblings then that's fine with me. But it seems like you are the only one taking offense here. I think you are the one making big of a deal out of this.

<i>Sweet.</i>

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>>37559
My bad. I thought you were complaining about speeches not fitting to the animations when you were actually talking about the voice clips. I misread that. Sorry.

>>37563
My bad, [url=http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=noob]noob[/url] here. Or is it [url="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=noob"]noob?[/url]

>>37567
You might want to check out the /test/ board.

I have yet another thing that could be improved. The avoidance region. It is hard to specify even with the preview. The preview needs to be to scale. The best thing would be to just draw a rectangle with the mouse interactively.

DP needs Cloudchaser!

>>37559
>>If somepony wants to ignore my ramblings then that's fine with me. But it seems like you are the only one taking offense here. I think you are the one making big of a deal out of this.

Since you seem to be new here, I will give you a quick recap:
You got complains because Desktop Ponies is a heavy art-focused project, where the code part is left to OP, while the art part is left to the project's artists. Comments and criticism about the programming are welcome, as long they limit to describe bugs and small suggestions.

"Idea Guys" or "Code Guys" such as yourself are considered bottom tier here, because what this project needs is people with artistic skills, and what it doesn't is people who only talks, talks and complains.

>> But it seems like you are the only one taking offense here. I think you are the one making big of a deal out of this.

It was more than one person, and it was commented that your suggestions would only cause unnecesary clutter and on top of that you weren't willing to take responsability for the extra load of work.you were intending to put on other people's shoulders.
Since you got a (very predictable) passive-agressive change of atitude and adopted a typical defensive, not-my-fault-at-all stance for not getting what you wanted, add me as well to the people who doesn't likes you here.

This is not personal at all, this is just how things work here. If you check old threads, you will find that other people like you came here too, with an atitude smiliar to yours, and received the exact replies for the exact same reasons: pointless nitpicking, invasive walls of text and absurd suggestions that weren't willing to take care of by themselves.

Now, if you are willing to provide new art for this project, then you can ignore everything I just said.

>>37607
I'll disagree with you a bit - new ideas and suggestions have popped up in past threads, and sometimes been taken, and while OP does handle most of the coding I'm sure that if somepony else figured out a fancy way to do something would have their idea implemented. I mean, people did request having a screensaver option and we've got that now. There are other ways to contribute to the project than creating art for it, for all that art is the most visible.

All the same, I will agree that tiny little nitpicking suggestions are usually ignored unless it is a bug of some kind that needs fixing, simply because most of the times things are done about as well as the coders know how to do. Like the congo line - nopony ever claimed it was absolutely perfect in execution, but it's a rather complicated piece that's done as well as could be figured out at the moment. If somepony could come up with a solution then it would absolutely be used, but just saying 'hey somepony should do something!' and then never contributing will probably end in it just being ignored forever, because other things are being worked on.

Here's Shining Armor's walk cycle thus far. I haven't drawn in his hooves yet and still have to animate his tail, but still wanted to show this one to check with folks here in case I missed some glaring error because I've been staring at it for so long.

>>37609
There appears to be a fluctuation in the hind legs in frames 2-4. It looks a bit rough. Are you planning to sort that with the tail?

>>37611
Hm - I think that what you're seeing is part of the back leg. It does look kind of sloppy though, now you mention.

You know what I think is the best way to deal with people with "great ideas"?

Get an issue tracker and start filing the ideas. Important bugs can get high priorities and "nice to have, but we got important work to do" stuff gets low priorities. If somepony asks for something already asked then just mark a duplicate and move on.

It also helps with the issue of too much talk and too little work. People can still argue back and fourth about specific issues (that can indeed be silly), but by putting the discussion in an issue tracking system seem to become less annoyed. But you still get heated discussions. But at least they don't overshadow the other issues in the tracker.

It is how mature people collaborate, listen to people and give them proper responses. It severely reduces the experience of "my idea is the greatest ever, stop whatever you are doing and look at me". That's why input, like mine, can look like attention whoring. Because the reader assumes that the writer is requesting a high priority. Make priority requests explicit and reduce the assumptions.

As for not wanting to take responsibility? You got me there. I didn't want to take responsibility. But I am thinking of taking some by implementing my own requests.

I have spent some time investigating the number one thing I want, transparency. I wish I could say that I had even an outrageous design that would require a massive rewrite, but I don't even have that. It seems to be a difficult thing to achieve.

I have yet to tackle what I have been most vocal about, the more advanced condition and memory stuff. I need to do research on how the related things work in detail before I dare start trampling over stuff. I don't want to make a badly attached "solution" that doesn't do the job perfectly and isn't usable by the people that matter, the content creators.

>>37613
>>You know what I think is the best way to deal with people with "great ideas"?

Asking them to prove how great it is by performing it all by themselves, or asking them why nopony has bothered to do it before if it truly is a great idea?
Talking is cheap. Walking the talking is the filter used to see if a person is so great as claims to be, or if it's just another guy trying to plug himself on other people's project to get some cheap attention.

Basically, you popped out from nownere to do nothing but complain and "suggest" impractical ideas, then you became agressive and pushing because other people disagreed with you.
That's not the best way to make a good first impression, much less to make people listen to you and take you seriously.

>>37415

Look at this other person here. Just like you, he also popped out from nowhere, but unlike you, it was to contribute with something new.
It wasn't perfect, but at least the intention was there and the first impression he caused was definitely positive.

>>37617
It is different to contribute with feedback as opposed to concrete content.

And it is also a contribution to a different part of the project. Working on the design of the program is not the same as drawing a new pony. I feel that the design requires more planing and thinking as opposed to direct creative skill.

You are right in that I have been all talk so far. I do intend to change that. But it is difficult to show of a change to the code that doesn't even work yet.

This is a new platform to me and I am still trying to figure out how to pull off what the original programmer couldn't. I picked some hard tasks to begin with.

>>37619
Let me say that I'd love to have the code in an online repository. It'd be much easier to contribute, and track ideas and such. It'd also be a great way to respond to various suggestions without spamming up the thread (I feel bad just chipping in opinions on bugs sometimes). And hell I feel totally bad whenever I have to stomp over some of DPGs work to shoehorn in some of my fixes to things. I have put the idea to DPG, but the ball's in his court on that one.

I like the ideas in general. But obviously ideas are cheap. Making them happen is what counts. It's even worse with code since the final result is often not visible to people.

That said, transparency wouldn't be difficult. The easy way would be to munge the gif format a bit to allow ARGB colours instead of just RGB. Not difficult on the coding side, but there's a noticeable impact on the artists. That said, I can't think of a way to do it that doesn't have some impact on the artists. I can go into more detail if people like.

As an aside, I'm not sure what language you're working in, but if you don't need to actually change the pony code and you'd prefer not to be working in VB, you could target anything that compiles to CIL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CLI_languages) because they all play nicely together. Just a thought.

>>37622
My specialty is ActionScript 3, but that isn't an option here.

And I am afraid that anything worth doing here would involve editing existing code. And that code is in VB. Unless we are going to do another of those "ports" to a different language (not a good idea) we are stuck with VB.

And if you ask me VB isn't too bad from what I can see. It sure is different from C style languages, but it is still the same concepts.

You are correct in that it wouldn't be that difficult to setup reading alpha images. I am sure that a solution can be found for the artists.

The real difficulty here is the composition vs the rest of the applications on the screen. There is no point reading in files with proper alpha channels if you can't draw with it.

The current setup is a fullscreen form that has a TransparencyKey set. This only allows for boolean transparency.

Did Cadance's standing animation facing the other way - her mane doesn't flip like some of the characters.

>>37613
Oh, to have a repository and issue tracker. I'd be more apt to poke around at the GTK code if there were a git repo I could clone.

>>37617
Clearly you've never worked as a software engineer. 'Complaining' people 'suggesting impractical solutions' is almost the very definition of how new features come to be. Whether commercial or open-source, most end users are incapable of coding up their idea. You learn to live with that reality, work on the easy stuff, and keep the more interesting impractical stuff in the back of your mind (or in your issue tracker).

>>37622
Instead of hacking up the GIF format to support transparency, I'd vote for getting the code to understand APNG (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG). There are a few tools which support it, no hacks required. Additionally, there's .NET code out there for reading APNG (e.g. http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/36179/APNG-Viewer), so plugging in support should be trivial.

>>37633
I wish I could support the APNG suggestion. But I am not opposing it either.

It's just that I worry for the artists. That and the drama involved with the file format.

>>37632
Okay, so separate "styles" for both directions kinda worked for Rarity's and Twilight's sprites, but here, it looks just odd. And it's not even necessary, as the mane is just mirrored in the show like it's done with pretty much every other pony.

>>37636
Actually I went back to doublecheck and saw that Cadance's mane gets flipped rather than mirrored too, which is why I did it. (and okay yes the picture isn't CADANCE strictly speaking but it's an exact copy so I figure it works) Of course, if everypony thinks it looks strange then it's easy enough just to flip the first sprite for a mirror image.

>>37636
http://pics.livejournal.com/emeralddarkness/pic/000469p2 Here's a screencap of the difference, which for SOME ODD REASON ponychan just hates and refuses to upload, and so which I stuck on my livejournal account.

The show does indeed use mirroring, but at the same time they actually have a backside that they use too.
The trick is that they always start out a shot with the pony having the front side visible and only change to the back side if needed.

All I'm saying is that in the show, characters are usually shown using their good side (and mirrored if necessary). Though at times their "alternate point of view" design is shown, too, it's comparatively rare and I'm not sure if the sprite version really needs it.

It's emeralddarkness' decision, though.

>>37628
>The current setup is a fullscreen form that has a TransparencyKey set. This only allows for boolean transparency.

I knocked up a solution using WPF, which supports the full range of transparency (and as an added bonus the hardware acceleration allows it to animate a silly amount of ponies). Screenshot contains a transparent gradient to demonstrate.

Hi there, first post on this forum.

I looked up this site specifically for the purpose of sharing what I've been working on. You see, I noticed that one of Pinkie Pie's more amusing animations in Desktop Ponies is to start a conga line. However, it is currently limited to the six main ponies.

Looking at the images, the conga animation seemed like a pretty simple animation to edit, and I really wanted to see Derpy Hooves join in the conga line. So I edited another pony's conga animation to look like Derpy Hooves. I have a decent amount of experience with GIFs, so I'm moderately sure I did it correctly.

However, I've had a problem editing Derpy's Pony.ini file to enable conga behavior. I used my old copycat method of learning code and imitated the code in Twilight Sparkle's Pony.ini file, altered for Derpy, but even after restarting the program, it didn't work: Derpy won't join in on the conga.

Any idea on what I should be doing? Here, I've included a preview of the animation. When I get it working (assuming it's possible), I'd be happy to release all of the files.

>>37747
Welcome to Ponychan then. My guess is you need to add her into the interaction.ini Its located in the same folder as the executable and readme. Add her name in there for the conga interaction and then do what you probably already did and make a Conga start and whatnot for her. This evening I can take a look at it and give you the exact lines of code if need be but hopefully this will allow you to get her up and dancing. =)

>>37747

> Complete stranger pops out from nowhere.
> Complains about a problem, but is already taking steps to correct the problem all by himself.
> Posts new art to add to DP's folders.
> The art doesn't sucks.

Faith on Mankind suddenly restored. Welcome aboard.

>>37755
Haha, I'm glad that's all it took to restore fan in mankind. Hopefully I'll provide more of the same or better.

I guess in a way it was a complaint, but I know my lack of success was either due to a lack of knowledge of the script, or else it wasn't possible (though Desktop Ponies certainly seems flexible enough to handle it).

I'm glad you like my art so far. :) It's just an edit, but I enjoy sprite art; I do a lot of it in a Legend of Zelda fan game community. I would post all the Derpy images now, but I want to include the INI files with them in a zip, Also want to make sure there are no errors first, because it's hard to propagate a correction after releasing to a large number of people, y'know?

Okay, let's see if I've learned the proper procedure for replying... (click)

>>37752

Thanks for the welcome! :)

Aha, interaction.ini! I haven't touched that file. I will get right on it. Thanks; that's exactly the pointer I needed. (Or at least it certainly sounds like it.)

I will try this now and let you know if it works. :) Aww, heck, I might as well try it before clicking reply... (does so)

...Okay! Partial success. The Derpy Hooves conga sprites animate properly, but she seems to be consistently overlapping Twilight Sparkle's sprites (second in line after Pinkie Pie). Hmmmm. Not sure what to make of that.

>>37775

I probably should have posted the code I used. Here is how I entered it:

Conga,"Pinkie Pie",0.2,250,{"Applejack","Fluttershy","Rainbow Dash","Rarity","Twilight Sparkle","Derpy Hooves"},True,{"Conga Start"},300

>>37774

Allright to get your derpy working you should replace the Conga code line in your interactions.ini with

Conga,"Pinkie Pie",0.2,250,{"Applejack","Fluttershy","Rainbow Dash","Rarity","Twilight Sparkle","Derpy Hooves"},True,{"Conga Start"},300

Then for Derpy's pony.ini add
Behavior,"Conga Start",0,5,5,10,"derpy_walking_right.gif","derpy_walking_left.gif",Diagonal_horizontal,"Conga","","",True,0,10,"Pinkie Pie",True,,,"53,53","51,53"
Behavior,"Conga",0,30,30,1,"congaderpy_right.gif","congaderpy_left.gif",Horizontal_Only,"","","",True,4,6,"fluttershy",F
alse,stand,Conga,"96,88","70,88"

You may have to mess around with the numbers "53,53","51,53" to get her to line up exactly right but that should get you on your way I think. Glad you liked the conga.

>>37774
Maybe it's just me, but these gifs aren't showing up animated for me?

>>37778

Okay, I tried it, and here are my results:

When I first edited Derpy into the Interaction.ini and Pony.ini, she would join in but would overlap Twilight. When I updated it and copy-pasted that segment of code into the appropriate spot, Derpy would join in, but three or four of the other ponies wouldn't. (They'd all gather together with the others, but wouldn't start dancing.)

>>37787

No, they weren't merged together in an animation the last time I posted them, but I suppose there's no harm in posting an animation now. *does so* ...Once I get this figured out I'll release a ready-to-use zip file, assuming I can get it to work.

Well, whaddaya know; I try to post an actual animation as an avatar and it doesn't work after all... Oh well. Easy enough to fix. Here:

http://oi48.tinypic.com/23kso05.gif

>>37792
It works, you just have to click on it to get it to animate. Or it's working on my end, at least, so I assume it's working for everypony....

>>37791
It doesn't animate unless you click on it to see the "full picture". Only the /pic/ board renders animated previews for gifs

Oh, I didn't even think to just simply left-click on it. I kept selecting "view image." That didn't make sense.

>>37778

StarStep:
It occurred to me that you sound like you were involved with Pinkie Pie. I just wanted to say that I've been very impressed with Pinkie Pie in particular. She has such an extensive list of animations that I think to myself, "man, somepony REALLY likes Pinkie Pie." But that also makes her the most amusing desktop pony, to me.

>>37808
I did the conga animation. DeathPony has been the one responsible for the majority of her other amazing animations. He definitely deserves all the praise you can throw his way. Anyway I will try out Derpy and see if I can't get her in line for you this time.

I had asked before, but the person doing Chrysalis gave up on it, so who is working on her now? I've been too busy doing a lot of art work of her, and I don't know how to animate these kind of things, appreciate a nice response.

>>37810

I will definitely throw praise at Deathpony if I get the chance. :) (I'm guessing that nick is an Apocalypse Pony reference.) But great job on writing out the animation, too! If you manage to get any results, I'll quite appreciate it.

>>37791
Ok I finally got to test this out and I just put in the code that I had above and it worked fine for me most of the time. I have found sometimes that the interactions just decide randomly to stop working sometimes but they work the majority of the time. How many times did this happen that it didn't work? Make sure that you took out all the previous conga code you put in and it should work.

Also on you're gif animation. On the third frame you left some extra grey spots inbetween the body and tail and a stray one in the bangs. Also for the second tail, I forget all the frames it's used on but 8&9 I know use it, you have a stray light yellow pixel hanging out.

>>37813
Oh that is sad. I could start up on her again I suppose unless somepony else wants to take her. I would want some input on my previous design though >>37451
Anything besides her main skin color I would like critique on. I accidentally grabbed the wrong color when I went to make it. Anyway I'd want to know that it's good before I even attempt to make the trotcycle.

>>37820
Her tail appears to hang below her legs, which has happened a few times and always bugs the heck out of me. Her legs seem too short, her horn seems too thick, her body seems too long and the curve of her back legs, particularly the top portion, seems odd to me - too straight and angular. Her muzzle seems a little thick to me too, but I'm not sure how fixable that is, what with pony art and all. Her ears seem like they might be a little too big and set a little too high on her head.

/says this without doublechecking reference, watch me be wrong about everything >_>

somepony on tumblr is actually doing some pretty good pony sprites. some are OCs, but there's also pretty good Chrysalis and changeling sprites. maybe they'd like to contribute to the actual program? (unless it turns out they already do by some other name)
http:parasprite-rai-mod.tumblr.com/post/21554805908/desktop-ponies

>>37832
and the url is wordfiltered, nice...

>>37832
That is really nice. I knew I would have had a lot to do to make the eyes look good but that person did a great job on them. http://tinyurl.com/6psool6 the url shortened so you can actually go to it without the wordfilter causing problems.

>>37831
Thanks for the critique. I did have something to say to this but if that person allows us to use theirs as a base I think it would be better than me redoing mine.

>>37820
I got a couple pictures I have done of her if you need them for reference. Want them? I have two pictures of Chrysalis on my DA account. One which I just finished before coming to here.

>>37832
wow, they did do good on that...

>>37831
Some of these are things I intend to fix -- like the stray pixels, the base of the tail, and the tail hanging low -- but some of them are characteristics of the original sprites. Mine was simply an adaptation to the conga animation. The body was taken from Twilight Sparkle and the head/wings transplanted from Derpy. All I did was combine two animations and recolor them, really.

I don't really intend to make any changes to improve on what was already there. The original artist can do that if he wants. I'll cede all my edits to Deathpony since they are relatively minor edits.

>>37903
I think you got a little confused. He was talking about my quick work up of chrysalis. The advice on your sprite was in my post that was right above it. >>37820

Also I made the conga animation for the main 6. I was saying that DeathPony is responsible for most of Pinkie's other animations which is the reason you said you liked her in this program.

Anyway finally got around to designing Rarity's garden party dress so I can finish up her fashion show sprite. Getting the screencaps to start drawing that hat made me realize just how ginormous that thing really is. Though I still think the one she forced on Rainbow Dash holds the title for most ridiculous for me.

I don't really know how this works but I read some stuff and hopefully people feel the same way I do...I think 3 ponies need to be added 4 sorta but 3 for sure. Queen Chrysalis, Shining Armor and Princess Cadence. Also Discord would be awesome for a bonus...I wish I could create them myself...but sadly not that talented

>>37958
scroll up a bit. they're working on them.

Pointless... but it had to be done.

(see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7URogxWx_aE)

>>37983
I was about to ask if somepony would even consider it...
I love you (no homo)
can we haz dl link when done?

>>37985
I wasn't planning on doing anything more with them. That's for somepony with artistic talent and actual motivation.

But if a couple of stationary ponies interests you, here's the images:
http://www.mediafire.com/?yjiifmiw1oqne0x

>>37983
That was a pretty awesome commercial. Good job on getting the standing sprites done. I may have added a bit to them :P http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35213087/Sprite%20Ponies.zip

In the video they cheated with the "Applejack Smack".
They had it rotated at such an angel that you couldn't have it look like that with the pixel size they appeared to be using. So I just did what I could with it. For the walk I decided to go the nes route of having it be a 2 frame walk.

Hey guys, I found out somepony made this: http://mlpfanart.wikia.com/wiki/Desktop_Ponies

It could be very useful for you when it comes to identify theives.

Does there exist a style compliant tree?

I was thinking it would be a good idea to have Fluttershy be a tree, and possibly Bloomberg as his own character.

I did end up adding a heart to Tom, but uploading it is being a blargh, so I will see what I can do about that later, if anypony is interested.

Hey i'm rebuilding Sparkler as I wasn't happy with the end result last time.

just looking for critiques.

>>38127

Her mane doesn't looks "bushy" enough IMO.

>>38137
How do you mean by bushy?

>>38127
i dont really see anything wrong question a bit off topic though but if i give you my OC code would you be able to make my pony because i have no clue what im doing

>>38189
Requests usually don't get fulfilled, the only real way to get it done is to attempt it yourself. The guys in the dedicated OC thread (>>35944) might be able to give you some advice on getting started.

>>38025
There's a random redditor who has started an Adventure Ponies game engine in Java. They'd probably be interested in the sprites so far.

http://www.reddit.com/r/mylittlepony/comments/tcke0/adventure_ponies_the_video_game_i_need_your_help/

Just throwing it out there.

>>38187

The mane looks a bit too "flat" compared with the original.

>>38189

No. You also attempted to pass your request on the OC Pony thread and they already told you that requests aren't allowed at all.
Either do it all by yourself or don't do it at all. (And how can you call it "YOUR" character when you expect others to create it is beyond my understanding.)

Suddenly a sort of request.
Is it possible to make a "real-size preview" of the Everfree Forest Area, so you can see where exactly the forbidden area is? So in the end it would look like a picrelated, and will demonstrate the EFF area on the exact screen.

>>38219
It certainly is possible.

You should even get a nice transparency effect once the work of >>37664 is incorporated.

I made Fithy Rich (DT's dad) using monkeyjay's tutorial: a very nice tutorial indeed! :D

Feel free to critique, but I don't really do that much pixel art -- as stated before, I'm a coder :)

Dropbox link below has the folder for him too ... including a stand/blink animation.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38202993/Filthy%20Rich.zip

>>38282
Not bad, but... Is there any particular reason why you based him on a mare instead of a stallion?

http://www.spriters-resource.com/community/showthread.php?tid=20179

This site is planning to decompile and repost your animations without your permission or even crediting the real animators.
The permission issue was menctioned, but as you guys can see, the local staff quickly swept it under the rug and they are encouraging the theft of your material.

Seriously, you guys will need to put a lock on your animations or something because people everywhere follows you like vultures.

>>38288
As stated, I was following the tutorial. The base pony is (as I see now) for mares.

To be honest, I didn't see a difference between the mares and stallions apart from maybe bulkier legs. I could fatten his legs if it bothers you.

For comparison, try Filthy Rich next to Doctor Whooves. I don't see that much difference in terms of trot.

Thanks for the feedback though :)

>>38298

Anonycat made some pony templates, which included a stallion version too. You can use these.

>>38298
>>38301
Yep. Anonycat made sprite sheets that can help you out. There's also a psd file in with doctor whooves that is like the one in the tutorial but for a stallion. Most of the other bases can be found here if you want to pick out which works best for you http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35213087/Templates.zip

>>38282
For the cutie mark you might want to have the bottom red pixel move with the gold pile as he trots.

>>38127
I would say that the mane is too thin up front. Her hair sticks out more and is thicker than what you have there. Otherwise she looks fine.

>>38127
why not just recolor lyra?

Just downloaded desktop ponies and I love it! But I noticed there wasn't a Thunderlane, I'm going to throw out a suggestion that somepony who does artwork for this should make him and add him~

>>38298
It's not so much the lack of bulk that bothers me, but the shape of the head, which is rather feminine.

>>38304
Thanks, I think that Dr Whooves one looks useful... shame I didn't think about that when doing Mr. Rich XD

>>38325
Hope I've fixed the face and cutie mark :)

This is what I made out of Tom. I realize the movement is sort of jerky, but I did what I could with it.
I nothing more complicated, but that is because he is a rock. I did add in one interaction where he would follow Rarity very very slowly, very very rarely, which I think looks cool.
I would like to be able to credit the originator of the plain boulder I used, so if anypony knows that, that would be cool.

>>38296

Has anypony of DP's team contacted that site to ask them to stop?
As far I understand it, Desktop Ponies team members are OK with people reposting their animations elsewhere as long they are credited as the real authors, but decompiling their animations and reposting them without permission or even menctioning who's the real creator is a dick move.

As far I've seen, Spriter's Resource is a nest of social misfits who largely enjoy being dinks just for the sake of being dinks, so a few words in time could avoid a lot of future headaches here, God knows that Deviantart users are already causing enough problems to this project already.

>>38345
I'd really like to see licenses on sprites. Right now all we have is an understanding that some uses of sprites are acceptable, and others not. Unfortunately, understandings are ripe for confusion, especially when there are a dozen or more spriters each with their own "understanding" of what is acceptable. Its a nightmare.

Putting sprites under licenses would makes things a lot clearer. Want to use one or more CC-BY-NC sprites in your new Project X? Fine, provided there's attribution and you don't sell Project X. Want to produce a sprite-sheet from a CC-BY-NC-ND sprite? Sorry bub -- a sprite sheet is a derivative work, and you'll be needing specific permission from the artist first.

Not all of us are miscreants waiting to steal your work. Some of us really do consider things like copyright when working on our projects, and get a headache just thinking about the current logistical issues in legally using them.

>>38350
>Not all of us are miscreants waiting to steal your work. Some of us really do consider things like copyright when working on our projects, and get a headache just thinking about the current logistical issues in legally using them.

I've seen people asking for DP's team permission before using their animations, and giving full credit to the original artists to avoid any kind of confusion or misunderstanding, but polite people like that is a very rare minory.

Most people just believe that "giving credit" is the same as asking -and receiving- permission, and others simply refuse to give credit, so people would believe that what they took from DP's team was actually made by them.

According to some (very, very idiotic) comments from Deviantart thieves, they refuse to ask for permission because they already know they will not receive it, so they decide to skip the permission part to avoid getting a negative answer.

Yeah, they are THAT dumb.

>>38296
Actually, images are put in spoilers due to size restrictions in order to keep from breaking the page size, which is a rule and out of courtesy of members who have terrible internet speeds due to their locations and out-paced service providers, as many members are from a wide selection of countries. Also, the user that started the thread ash_3k5 just joined a month before starting it and has't posted anything else since the 23rd of April. This is not apart of that site's game ripping projects or any of the community projects which involve custom and scratch pixel art, so no, it's not being swept under the rug. Please do your research next time, as it only took me a few minutes to get all the facts.

>>38400

Actually, the problem here is genuine. He was told that since the animations were original worls instead of game rips, he needed to get permission before attempting to submit them.
Then a Mod (Mighty Jetters, infamous for being an imbecile attention seeker) intervened only to say "Thanks!" to the guy who reuploaded an improved version of the sheet, while Tonberry, aka an ADMIN who already knows better, did absoutely nothing.

But again, TSR's staff is infamous for it's habit of harrasing people or looking to the other side if it allows them to profit from something, while Dazz, aka the site owner is an extreme enabler who allows his people to do whatever they want to anypony they want as long he doesn't gets directly involved in the fuss.

>>38334
The tail is a bit too big and looks strange. In this reference pic I found the tail only goes to the top of the knees but yours goes to the ground. Also the cutie mark looks more yellow in yours than in this pic.

>>38411
...Interesting choice of words. You seem to have a subjective viewpoint on this matter and a more in-depth knowledge of that site that somepony would just casually have. But yeah, I just cross-referenced them with Google using 'ponies' as a search term and found very little when it comes to spriting: a few references to the show in thread about a fighting game they're making, original equine poke'mon for a fan-game maybe and somepony that apparently was working on animations of Big Mac, Madme' Fluer and Mr. Turnip around last May. All the other other results are from some place called fusion fangaming reactor and their mostly about the show and stuff the fan community made. Also, since I couldn't find any reference to the thread you mentioned before with google and that forum has the search for members only, I'm going out on a limb and say you have a bit of an axe to grind. So, I guess we'll just keep our eyes on them for now, but I'm pretty sure it was just some young kid that didn't know any better. No need to start fight. Have a pleasent day.

>>38345
>>38351
As a Linux coder, licensing is something I probably think too much about. In the open-source world, *everything* comes under some kind of license: GPL, BSD, MIT, Apache... The list goes on. Projects are put under licenses to foster the growth of "polite" projects (i.e. projects which respect the author's wishes) while retaining the legal firepower necessary to go after the bozos.

Right now the Desktop Ponies FAQ states that other projects must "properly and prominently [provide] credit". While not a formal license, it is better than nothing. My port of Desktop Ponies to Python relies on this to provide the sprites as part of the download. Technically speaking though, DesktopPonyGuy probably doesn't have the right to make such a claim (unless he has the copyrights to all the sprites). That would be one good reason to push toward making artwork under a more formal license.

Formal licenses wouldn't reduce the number of people ripping off your work (sadly), but it would make proper use easier for those who care.

>>38424
Just chipping it to say that it would absolutely be sensible to get things on a solid foundation in regards to licensing.

The main issue I foresee is that'd we have to get every contributor so far to agree to whatever license is chosen, particularly for bases since most of the sprites derive from those.

Good news, everypony!

http://pumpkinc.deviantart.com/ <--- Remeber this deranged chick?
DA's Mods threw the book at her and now the stolen content has been locked, while her account is being reviewed.

I'm cool with whatever license as long as no one is making money from my work. I get requests all the time to use the sprites and it's obviously from people just doing little projects and stuff and the base sprites are perfect for that sort of thing.

I also get a lot of requests for technical support for the desktop pony app haha.

http://taionafan369.deviantart.com/gallery/24338143

Another jerk stealing DP animations (Pony Noia's, I think) and attempting to pass them as his own to feel important.

>>38475
>attempting to pass them as his own to feel important.

http://taionafan369.deviantart.com/gallery/24338143?offset=0#/d4hpmgs
http://taionafan369.deviantart.com/gallery/24338143?offset=0#/d4hpmb1
http://taionafan369.deviantart.com/gallery/24338143?offset=0#/d4hmtkm
>This Little Strongheart Sprite is by Pony Noia and can be found here: [link]
>sure but also credit Pony Noia for the Sprite and this site: [link]

Can you guys make a theft topic so this is not dominated by such discussion?

>>38479

You are true to your name.

Say...why hasn't anypony tried making Flash desktop ponies? Instead of 8-bit ? Flash helps the outline color a lot, and looks cleaner.

Just asking.

>>38497

Do you realize you are basically asking the DP team to dump EVERYTHING and redo their animations (all hundreds of them) from scratch?
And you are also asking DPG to dump his program and having to start all over again, this time using Flash?

Just saying.

>>38502
Pfft...who da fuck said anything about them doing it.

Maybe some other animators like the ones which did these:
http://www.dreamvalleygame.com/game/

>>38497
>>38503
It probably hasn't been done before because of the work involved in making the number of animations that the Desktop Ponies project has. While I do not know how hard it is to make flash animations, I'm pretty sure it is more work than the gif animations this project currently has (which is already a non-negligible effort by many contributors).

Coming here to suggest that somepony make such a port isn't really going to accomplish anything. By that I'm not saying that it's a bad idea, just that it's very unlikely that anypony will take it upon themselves to make it. If you want to see it done, and you are willing to learn and put the effort to start the project yourself, then you should make a collab thread about it once you have something to show.

>>38490
Agreed. To tell the truth I get the feeling most of these "thieves" are just kids who don't really know better. It's not worth derailing active development discussion.

>>38506
While some of the theives were dumb kids indeed (such as the obnoxious Ponyluver) a good chunk of them were also people over 20 and even on their 30's.

Licensing and thieves... can't we all just have fun with ponies...?

Licensing: somepony pointed out previously this one that I felt was OK:

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/

I guess it is time to make that official and post it somewhere on the site.

I haven't read all the posts above yet - I've had very little time recently; however:

For those of you complaining about my "give everypony a copy of the zip file!" version control, I went ahead and made a sourceforge project and a mercurial repository.

https://sourceforge.net/p/desktopponies/

We'll see how that goes...

>>38520
Maybe you should put the actual ponies in source control too?

>>38529

That is up to the artists who made the animations in the first place.

>>38529
>>38533
Well obviously they should be included, since they're part of the project. But first we'll need any artists involved to agree to the proposed license.

Talking of that, the license listed in the sidebar here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/desktopponies/ seems to be slightly different. I assume we're going for by-nc-sa 3.0 since that does indeed seem the most suitable.

>>38546

Once again, that's up to them to decide.

And once again, you are trying too hard to decide things on behalf of this team, despite having absolutely nothing to do with this project or having contributed with absolutely nothing to it..

You have neither the right or authority, so please try to not do it again, as I would be forced to report you to the Mods to cut your control issues from the root.

>>38547
I'm not sure if you have me confused with somepony else or not. For one thing I have contributed.

Anyway, I'm merely stating that if we want to go through with this license thing, as people have suggested is a sensible idea, then we'd need to ask their permission.

As far an including them with the source goes, what's the other option? Let people download the program on its own and then track down images separately? That's silly.

>>38497
I actually tried doing exactly that. It's not that hard to make using AIR actually. I just didn't put any effort into it, so I never got enough subsystems working.

Flash can read GIF animations. The issue is more in importing things well and having a new engine. The flash GIF importer, while improved in later versions, still isn't too nice. Flash really is better at vector animation.

And redoing all the animations in vector graphics is just silly. Not only does the pixels have their own style, it is a major workload, even if you trace existing animations.

>>38547
I know he has contributed. I know a lot of those who have contributed to here.

>>36239
HEY THATS ME AND I DONT HAVE A LOW IQ! I GET A'S DONT EVER SAY TJAT ABOUT ME AGAIN OR I SWEAR.!!

>>38593
Fine, then we will just stick to insulting your spelling and grammar.

You missed three apostrophes, misspelled one word and incorrectly used one period and two exclamation marks at the end of your sentence. And that's ignoring all the possible capitalization errors the all caps is hiding.

Also, please go and stand in a freezer for a minute, you need to cool down.

>>38595

A little heads-up, in case you were talking to the real Pumpkinc: she's bipolar and extremely fragile, both emotionally and mentally speaking. Criticism, rejection and lack of acceptation are physically harmful for her.

So instead of engaging her (and making her blow her lid) just ignore her and eventually she will lose interest and go away by herself.

>>38529
I considered that, but if you did through the site terms of use they do the same thing most others do by saying that "we can do whatever we want with what you upload here", which I'm not comfortable with doing for other people's art.

It is silly, but we'll have to keep ponies separate I believe (for the change control stuff - downloads on the other site will always include ponies).

>>38546
Good catch; it doesn't seem to have the right one available as a choice so I just entered "other" and specified it in the description.

>>37368
So, finally getting around to looking at this and I can't reproduce it. This is with Win7 and areo on and off. Any other tips to make it happen?

>>38411
Hey, just like to chime in and say that I actually run The Spriters Resource, and you've decided to name me directly in your post, too.

For those not really giving a shit, my name's Dazz - I run that site. Hello. I didn't get involved in that thread because it was already being dealt with - the sheet hasn't been uploaded to our site, because it doesn't have the permission of the original artist... Mighty Jetters is friendly to members, and was simply saying thanks to the guy who corrected the sheet.
Tonberry likely doesn't know the origin of the sheet, so made mention of the issue. The issue wasn't missed, it just wasn't cared for since it's not something we would put on our site without permission from the guys who made the application - since we're not idiots, which is clearly being stated here.

I don't know who you are, since you're deciding to stay anonymous, but I can only assume that you're actually a banned member who has some sort of vendetta.

I'm no brony, but I'm also not a phony brah. We don't profit from our site, we're an archive. Uploading that sheet would have been more work from complaints, which is not something we want. We aren't out to hurt artists and claim we own anything we don't.

Please try to keep your personal vendetta against us to yourself next time before you slate us as being thieves. Dick.

>>38667

You have no power here.

Your dramas have no place here.

The tales about how you constantly search your name on the net to see if somepony is talking about you were 100% true after all.

You are not a special person, you are not a celebrity and you haven't done anything of value, period.

You would betray and backstab anypony if that means you can profit of it, and your historial proves it over and over.

You paint yourself as a powerful figure, when actually you are SO easy to control and manipulate over and over again.

You are just a dumb guy with an unwarranted ego, who wasted his only chance to get an education, then BEGGED for an easy way to make a living and lacks the bollocks to stand firm and put order in your nightmare of a community because let's face it, you are a loser afraid of losing the approval of his own community, because that's all what you have in your life.

tl;dr: You have no place here, and never will. Go back to your safeheaven of Schadenfreude and anarchy, because you are worth nothing outside of it and your so-called "power" cannot control anypony here.

Dazz? Mo' like ASS.

>>Dick.

Classy as ever.

(USER WAS TRAPPED IN THE MOON FOR 1000 YEARS FOR THIS POST)

>>38674
Sheesh, take a chill pill, will ya.

>>38667
Thank you for having the courtesy to come by to explain the situation. We appreciate it. And I'm happy to hear that the sheets aren't gonna be put without permission from the original creator(s).

I'd also like to apologize for the hostile behavior of one of our posters, since he's probably not gonna do it himself.

Now let's get this thread back on-topic and keep it there.

>>38692
>>38691
Dude, I'm not Hitler. I'm just a guy running a site. It's about sprites. I don't have "goons" - I'm one dude.
I'm not trying to take the moral high ground, and sure, I'm being insulting because I too am being insulted - My language has nothing to do with me as a person. If language had anything to do with how a person acts, then we are in a world of serious assholes.

I only found this thread because somepony linked me to it, and I wanted to say my piece to make sure you guys didn't feel like we were stealing your content - because we aren't. If you don't like me or the fact that I feel you guys deserve to be told the truth about the thread in question, then that's cool. I'm not here to win friends, since I really don't care.
I just felt like you guys knowing we weren't stealing your stuff was, you know, an important thing.

My conclusion is I know the guy who has been talking shit about us, and it's highly ironic, considering he rips sprites himself, and posts them on another database. Nopony else that I know visits our forum, in a random thread such as that, and has any interest in MLP, and also has a serious issue with me and everypony I talk to. He has expressed serious issues with people on my forum for the past few years, and tries everything he can to make sure people have a negative opinion of us before they can come to their own conclusion.

I'm not going to defend myself further unless it's a direct question. The argument is frankly pretty stupid, since it's somepony who posted it to our forum - not any of us directly... We aren't going to tell people to stop posting, because that's retarded. It hasn't been accepted, it's not going on the site, what is the point in being an asshole to us when we aren't doing anything?
As for the ask to take sprites down, I've done it in the past once, when somepony asked us to. Because the game wasn't out yet. They then asked us to put them back up.
Several artists appreciate the fact that we host their sprites > https://twitter.com/#!/KayinNasaki/status/204149025811861504

Again, we aren't bad guys. Stop making us out to be doing something we aren't.

>>38694
>>The argument is frankly pretty stupid, since it's somepony who posted it to our forum - not any of us directly... We aren't going to tell people to stop posting, because that's retarded.

Wait, so if somepony posts ripped sprites to your forum without permission, you don't delete the post and tell them to knock it off? Am I getting this right?

Also, one guy being cool with the posted sprites doesn't mean that everypony is cool with it.

>>38703
We were waiting for the member to get permission to have us put it on the site. We aren't going to delete the thread since he would just have to repost it again later.
We told him to get permission, and we're still waiting on him to do that. If it turns out he doesn't get permission, then we will of course close the thread and make mention of it - until then, it hangs in the balance.
The thread is a month old granted, but that really doesn't mean anything these days.

>>38704
Is this the thread?

http://www.spriters-resource.com/community/showthread.php?tid=20179

You might want to make a mod put a big, red "PENDING PERMISSION" sign and hide the sheets from the other uses without deleting them, or something like that.

Frankly, I would nuke the thread and tell the guy to upload it again only and only when he got express permission from the creator, which is what he should have done from the beginning. It's not like the creator is hard to contact, or anything.

Anyway, doing something like that would give a better impression instead of making it look like you're encouraging or not punishing that kind of behavior.

Remember that the behavior of your users, no matter how much time passes or any other factors, reflects on your whole community and on you as an administrator.

>>38704

If you had bothered to check this thread, you would have noticed that no, the artists (Or Desktop Pony Guy) are not OK with the idea of their work being altered and reposted elsewhere. Also, they have said several times that giving credit is not the same as getting permission.

Reposting the animations and giving full credit, plus a link to the real animators AND to Desktop Ponies homepage? They are cool with that.
Taking their animations apart, adding your own name to the sheet and displaying them on your own community? No way.

If the original animators had been interested on that, theywould have done it months ago, and they would have displayed them on their own DA accounts rather than lending them to a self-centered jerk like you so he could have extra attention and extra hits on his site.

Dazz just came here to pick fights and demand things to be done his way. He refuses to take a no for an answer and pretends to make everypony bend to his will so he could profit from everypony's work, but again, that is Dazz for you.

Just drop it, OK? You are only making your entire community look bad, because if the site owner is a paranoid, self centered jerk then you can't expect anything better from the site he owns and controls.