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#Discussion #Shipping #Contest
Hello Everypony!

Today we bring to you all an Amazing opportunity to show off your show stopping writing abilities.

Over the next month, you're All invited to take part in a bit of High Society Romance.

So, what's the occasion you ask?

Well, with the second season over, we thought it was a good time to encourage all you fanfic authors out there to show what makes this community so fantastic.

The goal of the contest:
1: Write a story focused on Romance. (But don't be afraid to branch out into adventure, comedy, or any other role you feel comfortable in.)
2: The story Must ship either Celestia or Luna. Only the Highest in the High Society are of interest here.
3: The story need to end at approximately 10.000 words, or more.
4: The story must follow the general guidelines on fanfiction that can get posted to EQD.

Do you feel like this could be the place for you to start your Epic 100.000+ words novel, but you don't think it would be possible for you to finish it during the contest? Well, we understand your concern, but go ahead! Unfinished stories can enter into the contest, but you will only receive the full prize when the story is finished. You'll still receive half of it as the contest ends.

The prizes!

1st prize:
To use however you want. Want it transferred to you through Paypal? That's fine. Want to order a bunch of swag at We Love Fine? That's good too! The cash is yours to command.

2nd prize:
Same as above, but less of it.

3rd prize:
One T-shirt of your choice from We Love Fine.

Runner ups:
4 runner ups get to choose a game on GoG.com or Steam for up to $5.99.

So, all in all, this means around $250 in prizes.

Submitting your story:
You can submit your story in a multitude of ways.
1: E-mail a link of your story to [email protected] . (Best option)
2: PM Zanzibar on Fimfiction.
3: Put a link in a comment in response to this thread.

We will be keeping track of the venues where the contest is advertised, but your best bet is to send a brief E-mail or PM with the story, to guarantee that we see it.

The final day to submit your story is 1st of July.

That's all of it! Good luck everypony, and may the best author win.


Q: What characters can I used
A: You MUST use either Celestia or Luna, but you can pair them with anypony you like. this means that if you want to, you can create such imaginative pairings as Luna x Fleur, or Celestia x Pony Joe. This does not mean Celestia or Luna have to be the viewpoint character. You can, for example, write a first person story where the story follows Caramel as he hook up with Celestia.

Q: What is the minimum and maximum word counts allowed?
A: the minimum word count is 10.000 words. There is no maximum word count.

Q: I don't live in the US, can I still win?
A: Yes, you can! All prizes can be shipped worldwide. That includes orders from We Love Fine.

Q: Can I submit a comedy story for the contest?
A: If it is a Romantic Comedy, then yes you can! The only genre requirement is that there is a romance involved, and that it is an important part of the story. Other than that, you can make it whichever genre you'd prefer.

Q: But who's going to be judging the stories?
A: Good question! The judges are as follows:
Zanzibar: This is the sponsor, organiser and maintainer of the contest. Aka: the guy writing this text and supplying the funds for the prizes. He's well read and has a strong interest in stories focusing on romance, but have no specific "One True Pair".
Gwenio: With over 10.000.000 words of pony fanfiction read, Gwenio have tasted much of what the fandom has to offer. A true connoisseur of pony fanfiction.
Dr.Jekyll: The good Doctor here is a fan of romantic stories and have even helped editing some in the past. He thinks of himself as quiet to a fault, but with this he'll get every reason to speak up and state his opinions!

Q: How should I submit my story?
A: To reiterate: That can be done in multiple ways.
1: E-mail a link of your story to [email protected] . (Best option)
2: PM Zanzibar on Fimfiction.
3: Put a link in a comment in response to this thread.

Q: Can the story I published one week ago enter?
A: No, sorry. Only stories published After the 31st of May is eligible to win.

(Credit for picture: No idea. I stole it from another post on here. Sorry!)
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>> No. 104746
>ten point zero

Princess Celestia batted her eyes at Doughnut Joe. They kissed.
>> No. 104747
I tried to find your profile to send a PM, but unless you're Zanzibar (The Skeletal Gentleman), I believe I have failed in that regard.
>> No. 104749
This link should, hopefully, work:
>> No. 104764
oh, hey, I'm already doing one contest WHY NOT ANOTHER AT THE SAME TIME LOL :V
>> No. 104765
At least there's still a lot of time left on this one :).
>> No. 105034
Oh man this looks awesome, I am so joining.

Though I am a bit confused by the word count... is it ten thousand words?
>> No. 105036
> 4: The story must follow the general guidelines on fanfiction that can get posted to EQD.

So much for a second person romance then.
>> No. 105042
If I understand OP correctly, he means that it should adhere to everything on this page:

Note that OP didn't say that it had to be accepted on EqD. Seeing as the submission guidelines page doesn't outright forbid those stories, maybe it will be fine?

Clarification, Zanzibar?
>> No. 105067
Second-person can get onto EqD, it just has to be exceedingly well-written, since 90% of those stories are just "X meets Y, and love happens". Second-person doesn't lend itself very well to long stories, which makes it difficult to create something that has enough character development to avoid that problem.
>> No. 105079
Yes, it does mean ten thousand words.

If you can manage a Good romance in just ten words, then I will admit to being impressed but it can't enter into the contest.

You are entirely correct. Second person stories can enter into the contest. You can use any perspective you'd like, as long as you ship Luna or Celestia.
>> No. 105082
A kiss, a child, a life, two losts lifes intertwined.

Wanted: a name to go with that beautiful, ephemeral smile.

And then, the foal looked up and both kissed her.

First mindless attempt. Will come back to it later.
>> No. 105136

Content restrictions. Are there any besides the obvious? I suppose it's a spoiler if I reveal the specific reason I need to know, but... Incest?
>> No. 105142

>> No. 105143

That's just it. I want to write Princest where they're not biological siblings, but I know I have to fight tooth and nail against the conception.
>> No. 105178
Direct incest is against the EQD rules, so that's out.

However if Luna and Celestia aren't related to each other in your story, then they can be shipped together. I do know that that is allowed by EQD as well.

There are no content rules in place except those in the EQD guidelines.
>> No. 105183
I've already got this and Seth's approval, Tactical. You're too late >:)
>> No. 105291

*fist shake* CURSE YOU, ION!
>> No. 105527
Anyone have a clue how long it usually takes for something to be put up on EQD, after getting into the queue?

I received a "To the queue!" message five days ago, but haven't seen anything yet. Not really a big deal, since I can always push ahead the deadline if it takes too long, but it's nice to have a ballpark guess as to when it might go up at least :).
>> No. 105572
If it's not up by Thursday, I'd definitely give them a poke. Don't want to wait too long, given the time frame here.
>> No. 105863
Well, it's gone back to the queue on EQD again.

Because of how slow all this went, I'm extending the deadline until the 8th of July.
>> No. 105924
You are a beautiful person. ;_; Celestia bless you.
>> No. 106005
Can we make up a pony in particular, because I am having a hard time trying to find a stallion in the show.
>> No. 106006

Can we make up a pony in particular, because I am having a hard time trying to find a stallion in the show.
>> No. 106011

>male characters involved in any way
>> No. 106021
Yes, you can use an OC. Or one of the many mares in the show. No restrictions aside from the ones mentioned in the original post.
>> No. 106024
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Ho boy, dis contest gonna have so much Discord x Celestia.
>> No. 106028
I have another question.
1. So do I have an OK for the creating a pony idea?
2. What kind of text document do we write our story on when we send it to you guys through email.
Note: This is my first time doing a contest.
>> No. 106030
1: Yes, you can create your own pony. I should, however, be honest and say that a story focusing on an OC will naturally have a much bigger challenge set ahead of it. But they are allowed, you're even allowed to use a self insert, or make it a Human in Equestria story. Just be aware that you are putting yourself at a slight disadvantage.

2: Pretty much anything works. Easiest, however, is if you just E-mail a link to Google Docs or Fimfiction.
>> No. 106031
Are we limited to one submission or can we submit as many as we like?
>> No. 106094
So are the stories due on July 1st, as stated here, or on July 8th, as stated in the EQD post?
>> No. 106104
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Oh look, a writing contest. And it's romance themed, how lovely! Let's see what the requirements are...



Pic related for 10,000 words.
>> No. 106110
8th of July. Deadline was extended. Unfortunatley, I can't edit the posts here.

You can submit as many as you'd like.
>> No. 106996
Two weeks done with, roughly three weeks left until the contest ends.

With that, I have a question for you people.
Do you prefer contests with a multiple high prizes that come along rarely, or more regular contests with perhaps just a prize for a sole winner?

Contests are fun, but $250+ in prizes isn't something I could shell out Every month.
>> No. 107026
Multiple high prizes that come along rarely? I, for one, probably wouldn't be able to churn out ten thousand words for a different fanfiction regularly, what with real life and all its shenanigans.
>> No. 107043
I prefer contests that aren't at the same time as two other contests. @[email protected]

But the yearly contest with larger prizes is a better idea, methinks. I just appreciate the length of this one, honestly.
>> No. 107167
I try to make up for the length requirement by having a relatively long deadline at least :).

In this case, having more frequent contests would just mean that when this is over, I'd start a new one with 50-100$ in prizes, rather than waiting a few months for a bigger one.

Well, for long between contests I was more thinking of quarterly or trice yearly :). But then again, it does depend on the actual turnout. If, in the end, there's barely any interest, I'm not likely to hold more.
>> No. 108919
Well then, four weeks have now passed and we're nearing the end of this contest.

As a reminder, the final date for submissions is the 8th of July.

Out of curiosity, and just for a general ease of bookkeeping and such for me, is anyone still working on an entry for the contest?
>> No. 108955
Oh hell yes. About 7.5k in. I expect I'll be writing until the 6th, edit on the 7th and then throw caution to the winds. D:
>> No. 108978
Finished the draft yesterday, as a matter of fact. 14k, and will likely increase after edits and whatnot.
>> No. 109011
This thread is derping for me. Is it derping for anyone else?

And to answer your question, yes. I've got around three thousand words at the moment, but I've had a good three thousand more in my head for a while now, coupled by some killer ideas I thought up last night.
>> No. 109190
Um, I have a question: can you submit your story to a proofreader/editor before handing it in?
>> No. 109208
Yes, although whether I'll be satisfied with it enough to post is a different story.
>> No. 109421
Sorry, but I won't be able to make it. Got too many things to do.
>> No. 109453
As I round the 13k word bend, I realize I approached this contest all wrong.

The very first free weekend, I should have sat down and knocked out 10k, like I did with the last two writeoffs, because apparently this is a thing I can do. Instead, I dragged my feet for two weeks, and then when the writeoff came around, it kicked me into high gear and I hit my stride. I then began fretting over every waking moment that I was not writing, which was most of them.

In short, it should not have taken me a month to write this much. Hindsight and all that. :/ And I've still got a ways to go because I stupidly planned one more large scene/chapter for the end.
>> No. 109509
Since some of you seem to have some trouble here at the end, let's give you a bit of extra time.

Reading multiple 10K word stories is time consuming, no doubt about it, because of this, anyone who have at least announced a story in progress by the 8th, has until the 15th to actually submit it.

Take the time to polish your stories if you need to, but don't be afraid to send it in even if you don't think it's perfect. :)

To announce a story is simple, just write here that it's in progress.

Also, remember that the story doesn't have to be completed, you can compete as long as you're past ten thousand words, you can even win! You just won't get the full reward until the story is completed.
>> No. 109510

Oh and yes, yes you can. You're even allowed to post it publicly.
>> No. 109545
Okay, I have an idea for this, and I wasn't going to do it because of the deadline. Now... now it's on. I have 5 days to announce, and 12 to finish a 10k story.
>> No. 109568
Nope nope nope.

I already have another contest scheduled after this one. Maybe I'll actually take the 8th for further polish, but I'm throwing this turd at you one way or another.

Hopefully I can write tomorrow. :B Oh man I feel sorry for anyone not in the States right now. Extra day of writing!

Seriously though, you should stick to your deadline; you've already extended it once and that should be more than enough. Even with a month to work on them, these are contest entries, and as such are bound to be less than perfect. Of course, I'm only speaking for myself; look at what happens in the three days of the writeoff on a monthly basis.
>> No. 109653
Hmm... oh, well then... I might actually be able to submit something. If it's the dreich weather over here that's causing me problems, then I'll be able to write no problem in Spain.
>> No. 109654
Define "announce".

As in, do we post something on this thread with a specific username saying we're working on it? Or do we email/PM you with a title and other WIP stuff? Or something else altogether?
>> No. 109673
To announce a story is simple!

1: Write with a username here and say you're working on a story. "Anonymous" obviously won't work.

2: Or, send an E-mail or a PM and say that you're working on a story.

As long as you've said you're working on one, you don't have to provide a title or WIP content.


It's more important to me that everyone have fun and gets a chance to compete, than a strict adherence to a deadline. Still, there will be no further extensions besides this one and I expect to be able to announce the winners ca. 2 weeks after the "original" deadline. (That is: The winners will be announced on the 22nd or earlier.)

That should be enough time to read everything, including bickering among the judges about which story really deserves to win.
>> No. 109731
Hot damn, I am in. Is the new deadline the 8th? I'll get right on it. Pony-buying money = YES PLZ
>> No. 109732
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Wait ... wow, 10k is a lot. Might not have time, but $150 sounds real good...
>> No. 109796
Since you've announced a story, your final date is the 15th actually.
>> No. 109804
Fifteenth? I'm in. This'll be lots of fun!

Oh yeah, I'm working on a story right now...
>> No. 109866
First draft finished! Just under 21k words. Total. Crap. May be slightly less crap by the time I turn it in, we'll see.
>> No. 109870
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Awesome! Thanks for the heads-up! Already working hard, can't wait to see where this story goes!
>> No. 109971
I'm announcing for deadline extension.
>> No. 110015
Is this already closed?
If not, I may have something for it...
>> No. 110025
It's not closed. You've got until the 8th to announce a story. 15th to submit it.
>> No. 110030

Eeyup, I just finished my first full-blown shipfic, and it's under the minimum word count. Go me.
>> No. 110031
Great! (This is my first contest, so I'm fairly clueless)
In any case, I have a story that should be ready to submit soon.
>> No. 110048

Cool! So, question - can I ask what site you're using to figure out word-counts? I'd hate to be using an incorrect site and come up at 9,999 or something.

Also, would it be inappropriate to ask what kind of 'romances' the judges prefer to see? Or if there's any sort of preferences we should be aiming towards when we write...? I'd feel really bad if I'm writing X, and it turns out that the judges really prefer Y. (But if that's too much detail to give out, feel free to ignore this question!)
>> No. 110049
All the judges are open minded.

But as I've mentioned before, you're really making it a challenge for yourself if you try to write a second person Celestia + OC Alicorn story.

I'm pretty certain we'd all hate something like that even before we read the first sentence!

Still, if you do, we'll be all the more impressed if you manage to do it Well.

If you managed to land at 9999 words, don't worry, we'd accept it anyway. As for what software... Well, I'd probably paste it all into Libre Office.

Ah well, better luck next time!
>> No. 110088
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Ha ha, thankfully I'm not doing that, phew! I was only worried if "less popular background character" might lose points compared to, say, a main/main character ship. I know some people think background characters are worthwhile, and some think they are basically OCs; I'd hate to err on the wrong side of the judges' opinions. (I'm using a character who has a name and some lines, but they aren't as famous as, say, the Mane 6.)
>> No. 110181
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Announcing a story for the deadline extension.

I just got to figure out how Google documents work.
>> No. 110194
It's not hard.

Just don't accidentally lose half a scene like I did somehow. D:
>> No. 110203
Announcing story in progress for the contest under the deadline extension.

Man, that feels so official. I might have to actually finish something for once.
>> No. 110320
I'm most likely just making it more complicated than it should be, I tend to do that.

Currently the issue I have with it is that when I get the in to the document it adds spaces where it shouldn't be, making the story unreadable.

But I'll find a way to overcome it, somehow.
>> No. 110382
Only a few hours left for announcing a story
>> No. 110395
That's odd, it seems to have swallowed almost all that I wrote. Must have managed to cut it all off, funny that. Anyway, here's what I had meant to write!

Only a few hours left for announcing a story now, for those that still haven't submitted and feel they need a bit of extra time.

After that, there'll be exactly a week left until you'll have to be done. No further extensions will be allowed :).
>> No. 111250
Woo hoo, day of the deadline! ... almost!

Which is what I'm writing to ask you about, actually. What is the deadline to turn these things in? I mean, do you want it 11:59, on the 14th? Or 11:59, on the 15th? And if it's a specific hour, what time zone you're writing from would be great, too!

Anyway, here's a free bump - because we are rapidly approaching the end of this contest, whenever it is!
>> No. 111256

There's 44 hours left on the deadline.

I'm generous, the contest ends when the last timezone on the planet turns the clock to the 16th of July ;).

So UTC -12 I believe. (Where it is, at the time of this post, 4:15 am)
>> No. 111560
13 Hours left.

I probably won't be able to make a post exactly when the contest ends, but it's high time to submit if you haven't already.
>> No. 111606
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I've sent in my entry! I know sometimes Gmail addresses get marked as spam, so I want to be doubly sure you get it on time! If it doesn't go through, I can post the link here, or send it through another email address.

>> No. 111628
Doing last minute edits as we speak. How much time exactly is left?
>> No. 111629
Barely 2 hours and 15 minutes left now. Last chance :).
>> No. 111635
55 minutes left.
>> No. 111637
Wait, crap. I be stupid. Midnight at UTC-12 was actually an hour ago. But never mind! Since the fault was entirely my own, that minor extension is valid, hah!
>> No. 111659
It has now been a few hours since we stopped taking submissions, so here's some statistics:

Total stories: 11
Disqualified stories: 1
Celestia shipping: 1
Luna shipping: 10
OCs: 3
Mane 6 shipping: 1
Most popular ship: None. No two ships were alike.
M/F Pairings: 7
F/F Pairings: 3
Total word-count: 155480
Average words: 15548
Median words: 14354
Third person narrative: 9
First person narrative: 1

Some of these will change once I add story 11 to the figures. I'll probably update it then.

Judging has already begun, and with luck it'll only take a week, however that's just a hesitant estimate. It takes a while to read 155K words after all!
>> No. 111722
Any chance of a list of stories? No reason we can't read them too, right? :)

Also, what was the DQ for, if you don't mind my asking?
>> No. 111791

Oh definitively!

The plan is to post the stories when we announce the results. But I suppose we can post them earlier, if there's demand for it. Some are .doc and .pdf files though, not easy for us to link to.

Also, what in the world is "DQ" an abbreviation of? xD
>> No. 111813
Dairy Queen DisQualification. :B I don't know why, but that's pretty common lingo I thought. D:
>> No. 111827
Haha, new to me!

And the DQ was for including rather... Graphic descriptions of acts of carnal pleasure.

Which was a nono :).
>> No. 111828
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>Some are .doc and .pdf files though, not easy for us to link to.
>> No. 111840
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< - Mfw I see one Celestia ship and I shipped Celestia.
>> No. 111842
Coincidentially, that's the one I'm currently reading.
>> No. 111845
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Sorry I couldn't make the deadline. I had a plan for a story shipping both Celestia and Luna, but things got in the way and I couldn't write it in time.
>> No. 111854
I noticed. Shame though, I looked forward to reading it :).

Don't let this stop you though, write it when you've got time over!
>> No. 111856
Ha. I doubt you'd have accepted a CeLuna fic anyway. It's on the docket to write though. Along with a ton of other stuff
>> No. 111861
I would, actually. That theme has been discussed in this thread, and it has been judged as allowed.

One of our fellow posters even E-mailed and asked Seth about it. It is allowed as long as the the "truth" is that they're not really sisters. The truth about their actual relationship having been warped by time or somesuch excuse.
>> No. 111883
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You really scared me there, I was so sure that it was my story that had gotten disqualified.

Only one main six pairing? I feel lonely in my decision making...
>> No. 111890
Not needed!

The updated stats will contain two Mane 6 pairings. The 11th story (which I hadn't had a chance to look at before) seems to be a Mane 6 pairing too.
>> No. 111972
I thought we'd see much more mane-six pairing, to be honest! Now I'm curious as to who else chose a background character, and which one... I purposefully chose a "difficult" one, because I wanted to challenge myself, LOL!
>> No. 112190
Status update: I've now read all submitted stories. Right now, I'm just waiting for the other judges to get back to me with their thoughts and opinions.

Everything is on track so far!
>> No. 112401
Right, looks like winners won't be presented on Sunday after all.

One of the judges are unable to read much this week and won't be done in time. But we'll get it out as soon as possible!

Until then, here's the updated list of statistics:

Total stories: 11
Disqualified stories: 1
Celestia shipping: 1
Luna shipping: 10
OCs: 3
Mane 6 shipping: 2
Most popular ship: None. No two ships were alike.
M/F Pairings: 7
F/F Pairings: 4
Total wordcount: 166595
Average words: 15145
Median words: 12708
Third person perspective: 10
First person perspective: 1
>> No. 112719
Any idea when this might end? No rush, just curious when I should start checking for updates. :)
>> No. 112767
No ETA yet I'm afraid. Still waiting for the other judges, but I'll give advance notice. I would expect it to be done by the weekend at least.
>> No. 112851
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So, seems as though since it'll be a while until the results, it's time to hit the conversation button.

How's everybody doing?
>> No. 112857

Excellent idea. Things are pretty swell, already working on planning a new contest once everything is done here. Though not quite as far reaching prizes.

I've got a dozen or so Steam gifts to "get rid of", and why not make something fun out of it? :)

How about the rest of you?
>> No. 112859
"Get rid of"? Did the Summer Sale get to you?

*sighs contentedly* Days like these I'm glad I don't have any Steam cash. Well, the only day, really.

I'm probably going to be typing more stories tonight. I'm in the process of writing another "Feelfic" (patent-pending) while I'm vacationing in Ocean City, MD, weekend. Considering the success of my previous, I feel like I might have actually hit something with these concepts.

Plus, I'm terrible with multi-parters. xD I can never keep them up.
>> No. 112889
Zanzibar, really big thanks for this whole competition thing!

I discovered MLP FiM about two months ago as I was preparing for my physics finals, so this has been a really great opportunity for me to firstly get the storyline that's been floating around in parts in my head together and secondly to get back into the swing of more creative stuff during the summer.

I'm already so fond of the series and the snippets of season 3 that I want them to do a feature length film! :L
>> No. 112892
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I'm good but quite bored. University summer studies weren't the way I imagined them and all my friends are working so I got nothing to do during the days...

I've been trying to write something new just to have something to do but I seem to lack the motivation to do so.
>> No. 112939
More or less :). Most went into my regular games list, but I did get a few new gifts as well. I think I got some20 new games for myself. These sales are always so expensive xD.

You're welcome!
Honestly enough, I'm more a fan of the fandom than the series itself. The series is good, but without the fandom it wouldn't have been all that special :).
>> No. 112952
True enough, but one must admit the framework for the fandom is absolutely phenomenal. I find the written characters, storylines and voice acting more palpable than in some dramas.

As an arbitrary example, I believe the much discussed Sparity romance is was not written in for the sake of it but instead so that we can see the progressive 'growing up' of two of the immature characters: I'm certainly of the belief that Rarity's character has developed as a result.

Be I right or wrong, the series inspires those kind of thoughts and as such the fandom has a meaty subject to develop their own media for; ergo, in my opinion, the incredible MLP fandom is partially down to being given a deep and tangible universe to apply their creativity to.
>> No. 112959
I fully agree, the framework presented so far has almost all been excellent. I really do love to see how people treat everything.

It probably doesn't come as a big surprise, but my favorite piece of lore is the Princesses. Maybe not necessarily my favorite characters, but their immortality and power enables some wonderful storytelling.

Of course, it's also an extremely tricky piece to get "just right". Many, authors and otherwise, have a hard time actually imagining what 1000+ years actually Mean. Both in terms of lore, environments and characters. It always makes interactions with these living pieces of  history so interesting when it actually happens and is handled well.

And somewhat related to that, I find it funny how many seem to forget that Lunas and Celestias join castle was in the Everfree. I rarely see good explanations as to how Celestia has managed to keep Lunas room in perfect pristine condition over 1000 years in the wrong castle xD. It's not hard to find plausible explanations to it, but it's still hilarious when it just appears out of nowhere. 

Also, I admit that I have no idea which Spike/Rarity story you're talking about. I've read a few, but in general I tend to think they are mostly silly, but as with everything else, the right author can make it work wonderfully!

Yes, I can talk about this kind of thing for hours on end :).
>> No. 112965

Further to Spike/Rarity comment I'm referring to the canon, in that for me it is a case in point as to the non-static nature of the series, developing the characters and rarely maintaining the basic status quo as with many other cartoons.

I do hope that the origin of the Princesses and Discord will be covered at some point in the main series to some level of depth, especially with the minimal but revealing dialogue between he and Celestia. Question being: why were they fighting to begin with? IMO, order and chaos aren't mutually exclusive.

I personally like to think that for one reason or another Discord is corrupted like Nightmare Moon was. Would be pretty interesting to see that resolved and see the trio in charge of things in the main series :L
>> No. 112967
Ah yes, the characters evolution in the series is interesting to see, but in the end, I've always prefered character development in literary form. I'm still impressed by the effort DHX puts in it though, especially with how well they manage to string it all together in a show meant for kids.
Still, I'm glad they go for ruleof funny rather than trying to have everything make sense. If nothing else, it makes for some hillarious fanfics as people try to explain contradicting "facts" xD.
>> No. 112968

It's a hard one to solve without resorting to deus ex machina, but deus ex machina does present interesting plot possiblities in itself.

I for one believe that they're similar to the Valar from Lord of The Rings, which I suppose it is possible to see through squinted eyes. I suppose that would help explain the obvious things like immortality, but also little things like 'What defines a Prince or Princess when Cadance is taken into account?" (I'm going to ignore Blueblood in that analysis: according to Lauren Faust he was supposed to be a Duke anyway :L)
>> No. 112973
I really think of both Blueblood and Cadence as somewhat the same. I mean, Alicorn Cadence is something so obviously "made for toys" that it's hard to think otherwise.

On the other hand, I can fully imagine her as being a mix of unicorn and pegasus, but incapable of being very good in either area, never capable of really excelling in either magic or flight. (As opposed to full unicorns or pegasi.)

Luna and Celestia, however, I think of as more "real" godesses. Perhaps like the the greek or norse gods. Powerful, possibly one force of Creation, but not unbeatable. (Like Chrysalis showed.)
>> No. 112979

In any case, it seems odd that Celestia and Luna and possibly Discord are the only 'gods' so far revealed, I would like to see others 'gods' of other species.
>> No. 112981
It would make sense. Plenty of fics explore that possibility, many times to great effect. Though on the other hand, there's nothing wrong with having Celestia and Luna be the only godlike beings either. They can't be everywhere at once, and it makes sense that ponies would rally around them, while other species might keep their distance.
>> No. 112983

That's precisely why I put Draconia in my competition entry, aside from the fact that the MLP universe appears to have an overabundance of known females. :L
>> No. 113145
Had to change my name according to my FiMFic change.
I've got a similar sort of problem. I'll get an idea, want to type it out - and then get nowhere with it. Though, right now, I think I'm doing pretty good with writing the sequel to my 1st-ever fanfic, and another, non-pony story that I was compelled to write while here on vacation.
This is the most polite and civilized debate I have ever read. And, I'm not sure it's even a debate anymore.
>> No. 113150
Haha, I'm not sure this could be concidered a debate!
Still, it was fun. There's a lot of things that can be said about these ponies, at least as long as you're willing to overanalyse a kids show xD.
>> No. 113188
Haha, said as if people don't love overanalyzing kids shows xD I know I do
>> No. 113190
And we all have our own pet peeves when it comes to them, funny ain't it? One of my own was the "1000 years bring no changes" bit, another is the "Twilight Sparkle will forever be a librarian in Ponyville" thing. Don't get me started on the latter one! :D
>> No. 113191
I always found that weird. Your first one, I mean. 1,000 years, and they're still stuck in the Middle Ages, basically? What gives? I've always thought of writing some alternate universe thing where Equestria DID advance, and Nightmare Moon returned in that one. It'd be neat.
One of my biggest pet peeves, though, is what lies outside of Equestria. Is it its own nation, or is it the whole...thing? (i.e. the landmass or the planet) And, if the former, do all the other nations still see the Princesses as the ultimate rulers, on account of their sun and moon raising?
That was always one of the few things that bothered me.
>> No. 113203
I really love the way they give the viewers just enough to go on as I said earlier: these questions are what keep us interested and developing our own personal explanations for the whole system as it is.

Just as an aside, I was talking to my mum about being a brony quite openly when I returned from uni. She was naturally confused, as are most people who don't understand why we like the series, so in true literary style I quoted C.S Lewis on the matter:

“When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty, I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
>> No. 113209
Actually, that's not the weird bit to me. From the show, it looks like they are just now starting an industrial revolution, which makes sense.

Also note how, in the first episodes where the Mare in the Moon story was told, the ponies were depicted as more of a nomadic people. They certainly didn't show any huge cities in the storybook :).

It's the smaller things that annoy me, as with the bedroom example above, or that the Princesses are at times portrayed like they were still in their 20's. They're older than your great great great great grandmother, it doesn't make sense to have them walking around giggling like school-fillies xD.

As for the country:
What I'm leaning towards are City States. There could be a ton of cities, or small group of cities, each led by their own prince or princess, but I'd still assume that Canterlot and Equestria is the de-facto leaders in case of trouble. The other city states rule themselves, but if they need to settle disputes, they visit Canterlot. After all, they seem to more or less worship Celestia and Luna. (What with swearing by them and all.)

Seems like it'd make sense for me, since I doubt Celestia would prefer leading by example, rather than going in to meddle directly with everything. (Influencing it and masterminding it is another issue entirely!)

I really doubt that's anything they have intended xD. It's more of a side effect due to them using the simple "Rule of Funny".
>> No. 113214

I think it would be great to see a comparison between Equestria and elsewhere to get some scope on the matter. I mean we do know that there are 'lands outside Equestria' from Zecora.
>> No. 113489
So, it's almost the next weekend, and I hate to be a bother, but is there any more news on when the results will arrive?
>> No. 113490
Two judges done.

Waiting for last judge to, well, render judgement upon thee. :)
>> No. 113585
Is there a chance of a slight inkling of a possibility of maybe there being an ETA, as well?
>> No. 114005
So, picking up the thread again for the moment, has anyone done an episodic story that they'll be working on after the competition is over?
>> No. 114036
You mean episode-like or chaptered?
>> No. 114045
Either I guess, I'd just be interested to read the different takes on the competition concept at some point.

I'm on Part 2 at the moment which is dwarfing Part 1 in terms of content, making finishing a meaty project so it would seem. Either that or I'm not a very concise writer!
>> No. 114053
*Edit- writing while doing DIY not good for mistakes*

I'm on Part 2 at the moment which is dwarfing Part 1 in terms of content, making for a meaty project so it would seem. Either that or I'm not a very concise writer!
>> No. 114084

Sorry about that.

Judgement should be done by Sunday. If not, I'll veto it anyway. I'd prefer getting a full complement of judges, but it can't be helped. Can't delay it too much after all :).
>> No. 114085
Interesting! I tried to make my story feel like a full, complete story - but I don't think it's the full life story of the characters. I have some ideas for where they would go afterwards, the hijinks they would get into after their story "ended." I made kind of a weird couple, but I think I ship them now, haha! Not sure how much of it I will write down, though - we'll see!

Glad to hear it! I'm happy to wait, but I wouldn't mind getting the anticipation over with, haha!
>> No. 114092
I'd love to read it sometime! Have you put yours up on FIMFiction?

I'm terrible when it comes to length; half of why I entered was seeing 'Epic 100,000 word novel' in the description (Including Part 1 I'm on 42,000 words, still aiming for epicness! :P)
>> No. 114145
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As long as it's okay with Zanzibar, I could share! I don't know if it's against the rules to 'reveal' until the contest is over - it's why I've not even tried to submit it to EqD, because I don't want to do anything wrong.
>> No. 114162

It says '2: PM Zanzibar on Fimfiction.' under 'Submitting your Story' so I suppose by principle one must have a story on FIMFiction to do so.
>> No. 114184
You're allowed to publish your story. If I didn't allow it, there would be a rule stating so :).
>> No. 114286
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Okie doke! I just don't want to 'jinx' it, I guess. But we're almost done, so feel free to read!

My story is titled "The Escape"
FIMFiction: http://www.fimfiction.net/story/38754/The-Escape
FF.net: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8329553/1/The_Escape
DA: http://fav.me/d57jft4
>> No. 114298
Heres mine:

From Ashes Came Fire, Part 1: Embers
>> No. 114308
Mine definitely needs more work before I'm willing to publish it. :B
>> No. 114309
All the judges are done.

I'll be compiling the results this evening. I'll likely post them later today or tomorrow.

Don't worry about missing it. I'm going to send out an E-mail to everyone who participated. I'm also going to be posting links to the competing stories, so it'll all be nicely compiled :).
>> No. 114312
Best of luck to everypony!
>> No. 114361
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Ditto! :) I can't wait to read the stories, I bet they're all gonna be amazing!

Oh manohmanohman *hyperventilates*
>> No. 114364
>> No. 114403
High Society Romance: Winners

Good day Everypony!

I welcome you to this exciting conclusion of our little contest. 10 stories qualified, but only a single grand prize can be given out. But we'll hold you in suspense a bit longer!

First of all: A Big Thank You to all our contestants. We're happy you decided to take the time to participate, and it's been decided that no one will leave empty-hoofed. As such, the 4th-10th place contestants will each receive a runner up prize of a game on GoG.com or Steam for up to $9.99. Congratulations to all of you, and thank you again. Even if you didn't win this time, We'd love to see you in our next contest, the more the merrier.

Following are a list of the runner-ups and their stories, in no specific order:

Runner Ups

From Ashes Came Fire
Author: JackR
OC x Luna
Words: 21810
Third Person

One small step for pony
Author: Bommah
OC x Luna
Words: 10647
Third Person

Applebloom’s Endeavour
Author: Invisible Cadance
Applejack x Luna
Words: 11498
Third Person

The Macintosh and the Princess
Author: American Tuesday
Big Mac x Celestia
Words: 10840
Third Person

A Trip to Ponyville
Author: Brianna
OC x Luna
(No external link exists)
Words: 11744
First Person

The Escape
Author: Jimbo
Donus Joe x Luna
Words: 22317
Third Person

Matching Miss Luna
Author: Astrophel Agonistes
Fluttershy x Luna
Third Person

Congratulations and thank you again! To reiterate: You’ve each won a runner up prize of a game on GoG.com or Steam for up to $9.99.

Now, if this had been a TV show, this is where we'd cut to commercials before announcing the top three. Thankfully, you will not have to endure that. For these next few stories, our host will say a few words before presenting each story.

Third Place

So! Hello again everypony. These little snippets will represent only my own (Zanzibar’s) thoughts on the presented winners. For our third place, we have a story that I enjoyed quite a bit. It shows an interesting side of Luna, with a pairing I had honestly never even considered. With more polish, it could probably have taken a higher position, but I have to praise the author for what he achieved in such a short amount of time. I present to you our Third Place winner:

Dear Chrysalis
Author: Present Perfect
Chrysalis x Luna
Words: 21597
Third Person

For his Third Place position, Present Perfect wins one T-shirt of his choice from We Love Fine.

Second Place

And that brings me to present our second place winner, doesn't it? Well! How about a tale of the moon? Of a lonely cellist, harbouring a secret just waiting to be told? Recently posted to EQD, I present:

All the Stars in the Sky
Author: Lynked
Octavia x Luna
Words: 16001
Third Person

For our Second Place position, Lynked receives $50, to use however he want. The cash is his to command.

First Place

Finally we then have the Top Cat, the crème de la crème, The top of the line, etc. Our first place winner took an unexpected approach to his romance. Follow Luna in a tale of intrigue and heartache, betrayal and desperation. I present our First Place winner:

The Knight Princess
Author: Alex J
Shining Armor x Luna
Words: 16318
Third Person

Our Grand Prize winner receives a spiffing $150, to use however he want. The cash is his to command.

And with that, this contest is officially over! We hope you’ll enjoy reading the contest entries and expect to see another contest very soon. The next contest will be of a smaller, more light hearted scope, but I hope you’ll all consider joining us again.

For a last note: You claim your prize by E-mailing us at [email protected] . Detailed instructions will be given on an individual basis.
>> No. 114409
Congrats to the winners! :)
>> No. 114414
If anyone would like a more in depth opinion on why their fic placed where it did, feel free to E-mail or PM me. I'd gladly write a couple of paragraphs on each story, if anyone was interesting in hearing it xD.
>> No. 114419

I didn't think I had a chance at placing in the least. I wrote that story in my one hour of free time every weekday, plus weekends (minus the last writeoff, which gave me a real kick in the pants when I was struggling with this contest), and when I finished, I had enough to time either A) add in the scenes that would make the plot flow more smoothly, or B) give it much-needed editing. I went with the second choice, closed my eyes, and hit submit, hoping for an also-ran.

I'm very impressed that you decided to give everyone a prize. :D You should be congratulated for running a great contest with a unique theme. Pushing to give people enough time to make their writing better and putting up a high word minimum were both excellent ideas.

Congrats to the winners (Shining Armor x Luna? I have GOT to read this), and to everyone else for pulling off 10k or more! I'm planning to read all the entries in time, and I'll leave feedback here for the ones that aren't on fimfic. Looking forward to the next time around! :D
>> No. 114425

Okay, I'm done jumping around like a moron. That doesn't happen often. But, dang! I am so honored for this win. While I did think I put up a winning effort, I still had fears of not quite coming up (especially after reading Lynked's entry)

Congrats to all the winners. I might drop a look at some of them when I get the chance.
>> No. 114429
Hah, well I'm flattered! Congrats on the win, from the looks of things, you deserved it.

I myself am freaking out right now. If you'll excuse me, I'm off to spasm.
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