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Hello again, fillies and gentlecolts, and welcome to the twelfth installment of the “Ask An Equestria Daily Pre-Reader Anything Thread”! Feel free to ask us anything* and we’ll do our best to answer.

*Disclaimer: Our knowledge of quantum physics is limited, so please try to keep questions on that subject to a minimum.

I’d also like to include a brief FAQ in this initial post, since we seem to hear a lot of the same questions:

Q: How long does the pre-reading process take?
A: Depends entirely on how many pre-readers have free time and how interesting the story looks. Could be an hour, could be a week.

Q: Am I allowed to respond to pre-reader feedback?
A: Yes. If you feel that we were incorrect in some assessment of your story or you wish to discuss possible revisions, feel free to bring it up in a reply email. Just try to be polite about it.
Oh, you can also send a reply to just say “Thank you.” We like that.

Q: My story was rejected despite the fact that my FimFiction/DeviantArt/Fanfiction.net audience loves it. What’s the deal with that?
A: Congratulations on having a story that’s well liked! However, Equestria Daily tends to have much higher quality standards than the sites mentioned above. Don’t be upset about being rejected; use it as an opportunity to make your story even better. We’ll be happy to look at it again once edits have been made.

Q: How does the Three Strike policy work?
A: Authors have three chances to submit their work before we stop adding it to the pre-reader queue. Every rejection counts as one “strike”. The idea is to have authors edit their work sufficiently -before- submitting it. We’re not editors, and there’s been a growing issue with authors thinking we are. Bear in mind that if a story is -really- close to being approved and is on its third strike, we’ll give it a bit of leeway. This policy is more to cover stories that haven’t had any significant changes made despite multiple submissions.

Q: Can I ask who my pre-reader was?
A: Yes, but they’re not obligated to tell you. Some of us prefer to remain anonymous.

Q: I was told to post my story on FimFiction. Why is that?
A: Generally when we recommend FimFiction it’s because we believe a story will do better there than it would on Equestria Daily. Don’t be offended. EqD and FimFiction just serve different purposes. And yes, you can submit different stories to us for review.

Q: Do you ban/blacklist authors?
A: No. However, in cases where authors have been particularly rude to us or the blogponies, we generally wait for some sort of apology before looking at their work again.

Q: Can I touch the beard?
A: We do not have the authority to handle beard-related matters. Please forward all beard inquiries to Twilight Snarkle.

Q: Are rock puns awesome?
A: Yes. They're very gneiss.
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>> No. 112390
>>112384
Yeah, that's already been done. It's delayed until next week at present. Just keep bugging us about it if that needs to change.
>> No. 112404
Question: what, if any, is the difference between exposition and telling?
>> No. 112405
>>112351
It's not an AU story though, I can't jsut use AU as a shield against future changes. An AU story is a story that either inviolves a world vastly different from the show in it's very core (and mine isn't when it comes to the history of the characters or their personalities) and if I add that tag people will either expect a vastly different Equestria or a story taht involves multiple alternate realities, which mine doesn't either.
>> No. 112418
>>112404
>Exposition:
Twilight rushed out of her room, nearly knocking Spike down in her haste.
"What's going on, Twi?" Spike asked.
"Can't talk now! A book is missing!"
With that, she flew out the door into the streets of Ponyville.

>Telling:
Twilight rushed out of her room. A book was missing and she was very worried about it. She ran so fast out of her room that she almost knocked Spike over.
"What's going on, Twi?" Spike asked, not knowing what Twilight was doing.
"Can't talk now! A book is missing!" Twilight responded as an answer to Spike's question.
With that, she flew out the door into the streets of Ponyville, beginning her search for the missing book.
>> No. 112431
>>112418
Ah-ha. Gotcha.
>> No. 112432
Hi!

You might not be able to answer this question, but it doesn't matter, it's a silly one.

Do you guys know "records" in MLP fanfiction? For example, I think the most famous stories are Cupcakes, My Little Dashie, Past Sins and Fo:E.

The longest one is Fo:E (600k+ words), afaik. (And it has the most comments, too). Iirc, the longest fanfiction in the world, Trials by Tenderness, is about 2.5 million words (about 10,000 pages).
It also has the most (? See the Conversion Bureau) side stories (250+ iirc).

The best rated on fimfiction.net is Sunny Skies All Day Long.

Etc?
>> No. 112434
>>112432
Boy, you need to see this:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Doorstopper

And then you need to know there is a fanfic with over 5 million words. Or was, before the geocity purge. I can't remember the name and I lost it, but never doubt the ability of some people to spur on.
>> No. 112453
Okay: I have a question. It doesn't really have anything to do with writing, so I'm really sorry if it's off topic, but this is kind of serious for me, and you're the only ones I can think of to ask.

What kind of a community does EqD have?

I keep seeing people talk about ways to bring EqD and Ponychan together, like a collaborative project between /fic/'s writers and EqD's writers. Except that EqD has never really struck me as a "community."

Here on ponychan, visitors interact with other visitors. ponychan itself simply provides the means for visitors to interact. EqD, if I understand it correctly, accepts submissions from contributors, and delivers it to a readership. The visitors don't interact with other visitors, they submit or receive content directly to or from from EqD. it's not a community, it's a publisher.

Do I have the right impression here, or Is there some aspect to EqD "culture" that I'm missing?
>> No. 112459
>>112453
The pre-readers are a community. And the hugging posters in the story posts. Apart from that, no idea.
>> No. 112476
>>112453
The "EqD community" is comprised of the people who comment on the blog posts. That tends to include pre-readers, blog ponies, random bronies, and people who use EqD as their main/sole source of pony info.
>> No. 112502
>>112434
Thank you.
>> No. 112579
>>112453
>>112476
Thank you. That about clears up what I was wondering, particularly about the commentators.
>> No. 112591
You guys like Q&A's?

How about a Q&Neigh.

http://youtu.be/FcVAXZNEjFM
>> No. 112661
Heyo! Was going through the editor's Omnibus for the umpteenth time. Very handy, wonderful thing to have.

Anyhow! Under the attribution of Dialogue, I'd personally find it incredibly useful to see how things work, reversing the order of the dialogue/non-dialogue text.
>> No. 112671
>>112661
"Hey," guy said.
Guy 2 looked back. "What's up?"
"I was wondering if you knew what we were doing here," guy responded.
Guy 2 walked over to the window and poured himself a glass of water. Outside, the sun was blaring down on the caked earth of the desert. With a shake of his head, he admitted, "No... no, I do not."
>> No. 112681
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Okay, so just resubmitted my resubmission. Yo dawg, I heard you like submissions Also, pic related...

As I did so I checked the current queue. Sixty fics in queue?! Damn, how do y'all find the time? I don't know what y'all do for a living, but my job barely let's me read one fic per WEEK, let alone review multiple stories.

Especially since you have said that most authors either don't listen or argue, the question must be asked again, why put yourselves through that?
>> No. 112683
I've just been listening to Q&Neigh #3, and heard a comment about warfics in relation to "...are there certain types of fics you don't post"...

Are you saying that they're not accepted, because I don't see them in the list on the Guidelines page?

[I'm pretty screwed if the answer is "They're not accepted"...]
>> No. 112704
>>112683
Due to the sheer amount of warfics submitted, we hold them to a higher standard than stories of other genres. It's not listed on the submission guidelines, but falls under the "Other reasons for rejection" section. Essentially, we're not going to post any 3/5 warfics. For us to consider them, they have to be something truly special.
>> No. 112725
I'm starting a long-term project (with a word count in the mid 100,000s). I know you guys like it when we give an indication as to where the story is going in that kind of situation, but I'd like to know how much information you want.

Do you guys need a short explanation of the overall plot (maybe 400 or 500 characters), or do you need an extended explanation of each chapter?
>> No. 112734
Is something wrong with the submission form, or is it just me?
>> No. 112735
>>112734
I believe it's a Google server problem.
>> No. 112749
This is related to "Can I ask who my pre-reader was?"

If the pre-reader response voluntarily included the name of the pre-reader who rejected my story (not their real name or anything), is this a good sign that my story wasn't completely hopeless? If so, are there any other subtle but encouraging signs that really awful fics never get?

Honestly, though... if the average EQD submitter knew who I was after I rejected them, I don't know how well I would sleep at night.
>> No. 112781
>>112735

Aaaaand it's back. I was going to be so pissed...
>> No. 112782
>>112749

I don't generally hide the fact that I'm prereader E, but the only time I recall using my actual fandom name in a rejection letter, it was not a good thing. I have given my actual contact details in subsequent communication with authors, though.

When a fic is really terrible and I don't think the author will ever have the skill to fix it, I often omit "We look forward to your resubmission" from my rejection letters.
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>>112681
I can't speak for the others, but my job is managerial/desk work stuff where 90% of the time I'm just making sure the building doesn't catch on fire. On an average work shift, I'll pre-read at least 7 stories if I don't have some writing of my own I'm doing.

>>112683
Scribe, if you're referring to what I think you're referring to, I will personally see to it that it isn't auto-rejected. I won't be your pre-reader due to issues of bias (since I edited it), of course, but I'll lend you a hand there.

>>112725
The more information the better, I would say.

>>112749
Generally, I'd say it is. I usually don't mention my name unless I want to give myself some additional ammo for credibility; in example, when an author submitted a work closely related to something Pen Stroke wrote, I mentioned who I was in his/her rejection, since I've edited for Pen Stroke and thus wouldn't be biased too badly.
>> No. 112815
>>112704

Got it, and I'm working hard to make sure it does come out as something special.

>>112799

Yes, I was referring to what you thought I was referring to. It should be ready for first submission in a couple of weeks [I know I've said that before, but I mean it this time]. Cheers Vim.
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>>112749

I never tell people who I am in reality when I send out rejection letters.

Might have something to do with the fact that I'm not a pre-reader... but if I were...

Anyways! Question time for the pre-readers!

What encouraged you to become a pre-reader?
>> No. 112821
>>112820

I decided there was not enough suffering in my life.
>> No. 112850
>>112820
I was new to the fandom and in total awe at the sheer amount of awesome stuff people were capable of producing. I wanted to help out in any way I could, but couldn't art or music. So I found out about /fic/, did a couple of reviews here, then applied to be a pre-reader when I heard there were spots open. The rest is a downward spiral of alcohol and regret.
>> No. 112878
>>112820
I delight in the misery of others.

On a serious note, however, I saw some stories that I thought were fantastic get rejected, while terrible ones went up. Since I was a pretty well-known reviewer in /fic/, I figured I had a decent chance of getting into the pre-reading staff and trying to get standards a little more normalized. I was also having not enough time to give full reviews any more, but I still wanted to contribute to the ponyfic community beyond vomiting up a Twilestia/coltcuddling story every few months.
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>>112878
Oh Vimbert, ponies can't vomit.
>> No. 112881
>>112878
Yeah, I always found your stories a little bit...
*puts on sunglasses*
... Unimpre—
*Slaps self in face*

Um, sorry.
>> No. 112910
>>112820

I enjoy hearing myself talk and crushing the dreams of unskilled people who refuse to learn.
>> No. 112917
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>>112820

I want to be a pre-reader because I grow tired of reviewing... I feel that too many people come here, whether they say it or not, expecting us to wade neck deep in mud through their fic and clean it up for an EqD submission. Either that or they ask us to review four 6k chapters, which is a long time for a single review for an unknown author. Inb4 Vimbert scoffs and calls me a wussie. I've got longer projects I'm reviewing... don't you worry.

However, there are good fics that pass through and I do enjoy reading what others put effort into. Pre-reading would be perfect. I don't have to bury myself alive, but I still get to take pleasure in reading. Inb4 pre-reading isn't a pleasure job and people telling me to not forget about the shitty fics.

Okay... next question:

Any pre-readers going to Canterlot Gardens? I want to take them out shake their hands.

I have a feeling that people other than the ones who already know who I am are starting to get suspicions. Well... spit it out! If you think you know who I am, guess. I'll still deny it. Inb4 someone who knew prior to this thread just blurts out my name. Please don't, you'll ruin the fun.
>> No. 112919
>>112917

Nicholas Cage?
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>> No. 112957
Considering that LUS is actually promoted in the editor's omnibus, do you guys reject fics based on too much LUS?

It's always bugged me that the omnibus promotes LUS.
>> No. 112974
>>112957
We have a section that warns against LUS in the Omnibus, and previous sections that used LUS in passing have been edited. If you see something to the contrary, please point it out, as my eyeballs are bleeding.
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>>112919
>>112950
...
Silly ponies are silly.

>>112957
LuS bugs me because it's adding unnecessary words to a story that isn't particularly long in the first place. They're just filler words for an author frustrated with length and using s/he or the names of a pony so often.

Plus, if it's used excessively, you lose focus on who you're talking about. Twilight becomes the Lavender Unicorn and Rainbow Dash becomes the Rainbow Maned Mare. Eventually, I just don't associate the two. They become separate ponies.
>> No. 112996
What's the usual time delay between being accepted and the story being posted? I'm scrambling to find someone to make a cover.
>> No. 112998
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>>112996

24 hours give or take a few.

You got your HiE on EqD?
>> No. 113001
>>112998
No. I did a major rewrite on it. The Sans human version will be posted.

Though the HiE plot may appear in the sequel...
>> No. 113021
>>112996
A few days. It'll be up by Friday at the very latest.

>>112998
Jake managed to do something incredible. Something totally original. A PiE story. Yes, you rarely see them nowadays, but if his story is any indication, Pony in Equestria is alive and kicking.
>> No. 113023
Oh wow. Hit the bump limit already.

I'll make a new thread when this falls off the front page.
>> No. 113028
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113028
>>113021

Huh, guess I misspoke. I was going off my experience with being posted on EqD Which was accepted, added to queue 24 hours later, posted 24 hours after that iirc.

Huh, that adds up to 48 hours. I am not a clever pony. My bad.

> A PiE story. Yes, you rarely see them nowadays, but if his story is any indication, Pony in Equestria is alive and kicking.
I guess heavy sarcasm is better than be ignored. It was so heavy that I made pizza dough with that sarcasm.

I said HiE because last I knew, he was working on a story where first chapter was human, chapter two was pony, third chapter was going to try and merge them.
>> No. 113032
>>113021
Huh...
>Starts writing and actual pony in Equestria story...

Any preference? Shetland?
>> No. 113094
>>113028

Yea, he rewrote that story from the ground up into a completely pony one. :D
>> No. 113137
New thread's up:

>>113136
>>113136
>>113136
>> No. 115833
Does a screenplay count as a fanfic when submitting to Equestria Daily? I've looked a bit on the blog, and there doesn't seem to be a precedent for it.
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