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General Threads: Story Ideas | Recommendation & Request | Ask an EqD Pre-Reader Anything | (for more: see full post)
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Subject field: Adventures of Princess !!Celestia

Email: [email protected]

Tags: [Grimdark] [Comedy] [Shipping]

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By: Twilight Sparkle

Synopsis: Princess !!Celestia and her faithful students find themselves trapped within a shipping arena hosted by the gladiatorial master of shipping, !!Luna. Can she and her students escape the awful arena, or will !!Luna finally exact her revenge with OC administrating alicorn babies?

http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/10/celestia_and_lolipop_adventures.html
https://admin.google.com/document/d/1337/Go6thamCiVtyByDHX7MeDia&LaurXen1hFRaustMrHbxs/edit

This story was written by me during my fantastical adventures in Wonderland. I hope you will enjoy. It took me a lot of effort!



Links updated November 1st
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>> No. 112268
What's changed from this and the old sticky? Or are you just going to tell me to read it and find out? ^.^
>> No. 112274
>>112268
I don't believe anything has changed beyond a new picture.
>> No. 112278
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>>112268
I just wanted to change the picture. I think I might do that every so often, in an effort to get people to pay more attention to it. Also, someone had said they didn't like the old one. The old one is saved away, so if there was anything important in it, let it be known that I can still dig it up.

I only added one thing: The /fic/ FiMfiction group is now linked next to the link to FiMfiction itself in the Fanfiction Archives links section.
>> No. 113226
Can we actually post stories on the board? Not like a series, but a single story. I have a story I made and I wanted to post it.
>> No. 113233
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>>113226
As long as it meets the standards set by the sticky (the OP has synopsis, link, tags, isn't an affront to the English language ect.). Points of note:
Do not make a story thread for the specific purpose of receiving reviews.
Do not expect much, if any, traffic. Even popular authors like Slywit and Squeak only get a handful of comments before their story sinks into the back pages until the next story update. If you want people to actually look at your story, FimFiction is the place to go.
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>>113233
>Do not expect much, if any, traffic. Even popular authors like Slywit and Squeak only get a handful of comments before their story sinks into the back pages until the next story update. If you want people to actually look at your story, FimFiction is the place to go.

Hmm, then what's the point? @[email protected] Why so little traffic? It seems the rules are pretty strict. Strict to the point of discouraging discussion? (I've never hung out on /fic/...)
>> No. 113353
>>113351
The rules were far more free before and the traffic for the whole board remain extremely low.

The fact is most people that come to Ponychan don't come here, those that do for the most part apparently lurk, and the few that do posts aren't normally looking for their stories here.

The rules basically just solidified what was happening in the board anyway.

So, be warned.
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>>113351
>Hmm, then what's the point? @[email protected] Why so little traffic? It seems the rules are pretty strict. Strict to the point of discouraging discussion? (I've never hung out on /fic/...)
/fic/ simply doesn't have a lot of traffic. That's just how it is. Most of the regulars are reviewers who either lurk, or have something on their hands to review, and hence, will not pay attention to other stories. "What's the point [of single story threads, I'm guessing]?" - exactly that. /fic/ is not a good showcasing spot because its main function is one-to-one (or one-to-many?) reviewing. Even SS&E's thread, arguably the only successful showcase thread, is mostly feedback, edits and reviews of his new chapters.

People here are actually pretty eager to discuss thingsif the recent derail in the Ask a Pre-readers t. is anything to go by, though that goes to the proper thread to keep things tidy. Which one is that? Read the sticky! =P But seriously, there's a standard thread for most types of discussion except of the meta variety - about /fic/ itself, and if you were thinking of "discussion of a single fic", then the review threads would count as such.

Oh, and where are my manners: lolhai and welcome to /fic/! Have a Patchy.
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>>113354

ohai! ^3^/) Thanks for your replies.

> /fic/ simply doesn't have a lot of traffic. That's just how it is. Most of the regulars (...) have something on their hands to review.... "What's the point [of single story threads, I'm guessing]?" - exactly that.

Actually I was merely thinking what is the board for (say it in a Marvin the Clinically Depressed Robot voice) if there's not a lot of people here!

But on further reflection, I can see how trying to attract more people to a board like this by encouraging "story threads" might just encourage half hearted roleplaying and self-insert threads. :-?

> /fic/ is not a good showcasing spot because its main function is one-to-one reviewing.

So it's really more of a workshopping board for sharing finished stories with peer review from other fanfiction writers? :-)

> though that goes to the proper thread to keep things tidy. Which one is that? Read the sticky! =P

I guess I kind of assumed the entire board of /fic/ was a board devoted to what goes in the Story Forge thread.

Upon further reading, I see that's what Story Forge is for. It's entertaining to read, I've bookmarked it... I will probably end up posting what I had in mind there.

Thing is, I'd probably be a better reviewer/editor than writer. I have no stomach for formalism in critical discourse, so I tend to avoid fanfiction sites much as I enjy reading them... overuse of tvtropes references, Robert McKee-style "rules for writing fanfiction as opposed to real fiction", and such.

One of the things I've been working on conceptually is a fairly big crossover, but I might do it graphically instead of in writing and it's really more suited to a /collab/ because the basic concept is written but the end result would be illustrated.

Not sure where to post that, I wonder if somepony is interested in offering up a story idea for a multimedia crossover, does that count as a /collab/ request or /fic/?

My other thought is, what would happen if people were allowed to use multiple threads on /fic/ as a Story Forge? I notice that the sticky seems to discourage most of what's posted in Story Forge by saying that short pitch-style spur of the moment fan fic doesn't belong in /fic/, but that thread reads great.

Thanks again, (^-^
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>>113368
>But on further reflection, I can see how trying to attract more people to a board like this by encouraging "story threads" might just encourage half hearted roleplaying and self-insert threads. :-?
In its original incarnation, that's exactly what /fic/ was. It was nearly deleted by the admin for its lack of traffic before the oldguard reviewers re-purposed the place and became the hub for writing improvement.

>So it's really more of a workshopping board for sharing finished stories with peer review from other fanfiction writers? :-)
Pretty much. Expand "finished stories" to "anything writing-related" though.

>Thing is, I'd probably be a better reviewer/editor than writer.
/fic/ is always looking for new reviewers and the best way for to dip your toes into the river would be to pick up a story or two from the Training Grounds and review them. Making your own thread is a possibility, but keep in mind that:
A) It's a commitment, and a difficult one at that.
B) You don't get to control your workload; people will dump their stories en masse on you while in the TG you can cherry pick what appeals to your interests.
C) I don't want to dissuade you, but don't be getting the idea that you'll become popular and famous in the fandom from this. This is the sanitation job of writing; necessary, but not glamorous.

>One of the things I've been working on conceptually is a fairly big crossover, but I might do it graphically instead of in writing and it's really more suited to a /collab/ because the basic concept is written but the end result would be illustrated.
Actually, /fic/ and /art/ are planning on doing a collaboration. You can find the details about it here: http://www.ponychan.net/chan/fic/res/111864.html

>My other thought is, what would happen if people were allowed to use multiple threads on /fic/ as a Story Forge? I notice that the sticky seems to discourage most of what's posted in Story Forge by saying that short pitch-style spur of the moment fan fic doesn't belong in /fic/, but that thread reads great.
The Story Forge is for proposing story ideas, not short stories (so, for example, an idea of a story where Candence is actually staying in Equestria with Celestia to protect her from assassins from rival factions in the Crystal Kingdom or what have you). If you want to make lightning-fics that are only several hundred words long, then they should be posted in /oat/.
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>>113370

> to pick up a story or two from the Training Grounds

What's that?

>The Story Forge is for proposing story ideas, not short stories. If you want to make lightning-fics that are only several hundred words long, then they should be posted in /oat/.

Yes, but that's the sort of rule that doesn't make sense to me, certainly not in terms of traffic to the board... /oat/ is by definition the "random" board and I don't see how "lightning-fics" or short stories would thrive there unless some comedy were to derive from riffing on it. :-) Which doesn't happen often enough, sadly. It's hard to have a community of writing if there's no sense of humor left. (see: tvtropes) :-(

> c) I don't want to dissuade you, but (reviewing)

Sadly I don't have the stomach to read crapfic and Sturgeon's law applies to fanfiction, of course... That's why I like the idea of people being able to post short stories and concepts and lightning-fics. It's more entertaining, especially since trying to write it out in turgid prose is when it becomes crapfic by necessity (a work has to take on a life of its own to be any good, I think, or else be a creative parody if it's a crossover of some sort.)


>>One of the things I've been working on conceptually is a fairly big crossover, but I might do it graphically instead of in writing and it's really more suited to a /collab/ because the basic concept is written but the end result would be illustrated.
>Actually, /fic/ and /art/ are planning on doing a collaboration. You can find the details about it here: http://www.ponychan.net/chan/fic/res/111864.html

Sounds cool. I don't have time to read the thread now, but what I had in mind was something similar but in reverse... an (only slightly cracked) crossover which would start out as a concept and turn into a series of illustrations.

If somepony wanted to -then- write fic, it would be similar to the proposal in the thread above but it is more suited to illustrations since it's more of a satirical mashup of the resulting illustrations... but probably the only place to propose such a thing would be in /collab/, since I doubt anypony in /art/ would be interested in participating. I once asked folks in /art/ if they wanted to help me with a comic I was working on since I didn't have the skills or resources on my computer to ink it, and got no replies... heh, I guess it could be worse, I could have asked on /mlp/ and gotten sagebombed. ;-)

> pic unrelated to the above, actually. It started out as a different comic... but it'd probably be easier to write a fic, heh.
>> No. 113378
>What's that?
It's a general review thread. EqD's pre-readers direct rejected writers to it so that they can receive help.

>Yes, but that's the sort of rule that doesn't make sense to me, certainly not in terms of traffic to the board... /oat/ is by definition the "random" board and I don't see how "lightning-fics" or short stories would thrive there unless some comedy were to derive from riffing on it.
Random merely means that a variety of topics can be posted on it. People need to stop confusing "random" with "brainless".

>I once asked folks in /art/ if they wanted to help me with a comic
You'd have to write a couple sentences for each panel, less even. An artist's work is a multitude of times more difficult. That's an unfair trade to the nth degree. It's no wonder why you didn't get any takers.
>> No. 113379
>>113376
>Training grounds?
>>110790
It's listed in the list of review threads link in the sticky.

I thought it was going to be part of the General Thread Directory as well, did I miss the reasons it is not?
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>>113379
Yeah, I'm surprised to see it's not there myself. Perhaps it got lost in the thread remake? I'll ask !!Rarity about it.
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>>113378
>I once asked folks in /art/ if they wanted to help me with a comic
>You'd have to write a couple sentences for each panel, less even. An artist's work is a multitude of times more difficult. That's an unfair trade to the nth degree. It's no wonder why you didn't get any takers.

No, that's not the case... I'm primarily into art. Writing is not my area except in short-form parody or comic. I'm a visual person. I did a full storyboard for the comic... and it wasn't that there were no takers, there was no feedback whatsoever. Meh, I'm tired of the way stuff like fanfic becomes centralized on a handful of commercial websites and turned into a popularity contest instead of an opportunity for collaborative participation.
>> No. 113386
>>113383
There are simply no alternatives, so you do what can with what you have.

It's not so bad, if I'm honest, and so you might need to either live with it, or make an alternative.

For now, welcome to /fic/.
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>>113379
>>113381
Added as the 4th item in the general thread directory. I hope this placement is ok? I looked at the old sticky and found the post with it's add request and description. It seems it was just never actually added to the OP of the sticky itself. My apologies.
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It has come to my attention that the link to the Ask a Prereader Anything thread and SFG are two versions old. Fortunately, this lead only one guy to the version of the EqD thread that ended July 25 (>>115833).

#@first_heading Posting Rules
#@greeting Hello, and welcome to /fic/! We're a board that would love to help you with your story, but there are a few rules we all need to follow to keep everything running smoothly:
!106451|storyforge|Story Ideas|Story Forge (story idea general)|Sharing and giving feedback on each other's story ideas, and general discussion of story development
!88527|recommendation|Recommendation & Request|Recommendation and Request General|Looking for some recommended reading? Ask for some suggestions here, or recommend fanfiction you consider noteworthy to others.
!115976||Ask an EqD Pre-Reader Anything|The Official Ask an Equestria Daily Pre-reader Anything thread|What it says in the title. Ask questions to Equestria Daily pre-readers, get answers.
96323|||Typing Your Fanfiction | The unofficial grammar and writing style general discussion thread.
83737||TCB Side Stories|The Conversion Bureau Side Stories|Side stories of the well-known Human-in-Equestria story series "The Conversion Bureau".
107767||Sensual Fiction|Sensual Fiction General|The main thread for stories involving physical expressions of romance between characters.
98578||M/M Shipping|Male-Male Shipping General|Shipping between male characters.
58852|||<em>Fallout: Equestria</em> side stories|All side stories, spin-offs and derivative works of KKat's <em>Fallout: Equestria</em>.
66380||Original Characters|Sparky's Home for Original Characters|This is where original characters can be posted, discussed, traded, discarded and given a chance to receive some love.
84302||Scene-writing|In this thread, we write scenes|What it says in the title.

Paste it in here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57284761/fic-directory-helper-abbrev.html
hit "Preview", then "Generate"
>> No. 117098
>>116708
Updated. Be sure to report your post in the future, so we can see it sooner (and thus, update faster).
>> No. 117140
>>117098
It *was* reported. The update had already happened, and days ago at that (as I recall, it was less than 24 hours after I posted)
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>>117098
>>117140

My bad. I should've mentioned that I already handled the update when I did it.
>> No. 117651
>>112263
Now keep in mind this is the very first time I post here and I'm sorry if this is against the rules (that I'm still getting familliar with).

Posting in this thread 'cause I don't want to make a new thread for no reason and I will delete this post if it causes trouble in any way.

So guys... What's your views on "Anon in Equestria" greentext-format fics, all other rules considered (for adult material and stuff)? Just wondering...
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>>117651
Under "General Guidelines":
>Spur-of-the-moment fan-fictions are generally not the material that /fic/ is built for, as there is typically very little to comment on. These type of fan-fictions are generally less than 100-200 words long, and are mostly made in a few moments due to a cool idea. If you wish to post it and not make it into a fully-fledged fan-fiction, consider posting it in /oat/ instead, where you might receive a better response.
That said, if they're legitimately good and you're not going to just dump two or three, /fic/ might keep it going. Just keep in mind that bumps are very few and far between for all but the best material here since this is more of a discussion board, not showcase.
>> No. 117711
>>117659
well, my spur-of-the-moment AiE is nearing a little over 50 000 words to 55 000 words.

Donno if it still qualifies.
>> No. 117713
As of tonight it's 56881 words long. There are many other very good stories as long or much longer (I got a few anons out there that are up in the 150 000 words and over)

Donno about how good mine is but I got a couple readers that keep telling me they like it a lot. I was just curious really, I mean if some people over there like it, maybe it could interest some people over here.
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>>117711
>mfw novel-length greentext story

Two simple questions to determine if something is "allowed":
– Is it fic-related?
– Is there an already existing thread that can accommodate your needs?

Now, your topic certainly passes that test. It's fine by the book.

What I'd have to ask, though, is what do you hope to gain by posting it here? If you're looking for a showcase, /fic/ isn't your audience. Unorthodox format aside, we don't discuss fics all too much. Showcase threads, even by popular authors, get little to no activity.

So the only other purpose is to get a review. Now, I'm unsure of how someone is supposed to approach a review of a greentext story. First of all, it's second person. Word on the street around here is that nobody likes second person. This narrows down the list of people who can help you out a fair bit.

Second of all, the format is so out there that half the experience a reviewer has will be useless, because the delivery is so alien to them. Without knowing anything about greentext stories, how much help can a reviewer be when reviewing a greentext story? This narrows your list down even more.

Lastly, though not really related to the greentextey nature of your story, is that most people set a cap of around 10k words on stuff they review. This narrows that list down even more.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is that I'm unsure if this place is the audience you're looking for.

But, you know, you can still drop it in the TG and see how it goes. You might get lucky.
>> No. 117717
>>117716
Well I guess that answers my question. In the AiE threads, the writers post their stories or updates on stories they are writing (as they can't post "Lord of the Rings TRILOGY" length stories in one thread). The other writers and readers read whatever comes up that they're interested in and give feedback/review or just enjoy it. It's great fun when you get to know the writers and follow stories as they're being written, chapter by chapter. You kinda do have to weed out some writers as they do post... Less tasteful material (to say the least) but there are many writers that keep to comedy and stuff.

Seeing as this board is vastly different in nature, userbase and purpose, I'll just withdraw my suggestion of seeing what you guys thought of AiE greentext novels/stories and wish you all the best.

Thank you all for your time.
>> No. 118124
Everyone with a FimFiction account should probably listen to this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgc6FAIaOSw
>> No. 118169
>>118124
Yeah, a 28 minute long video with people talking about something that's better suited for text. Whoopie.

The most important thing anyone needs to know about copyright stuff: Do not put a disclaimer at the top of your work. You know those “My Little Pony is property of blah blah blah and I don't own anything blah blah blah” things? That is not saving you from getting sued. That is you giving up your own rights to your own work and admitting to copyright infringement.

Everything you write is your work. You own it. It's your content that you made yourself. Don't sell yourself short.

This video did not address copyright law in any way related to fanfiction, so I don't see why it's that relevant. These guys aren't lawyers and don't know anything more than I do about this stuff.

It is possible that someone could make a case to sue Fimfiction, but it would not be an open-and-shut case. First of all, Fimfiction is protected under DMCA. All websites are. Hasbro would need to issue take-down notices before even trying to sue. Secondly, the content in question was not in any way generated nor owned by Hasbro. The words are the author's. Hasbro would need to demonstrate to a jury that the characters used, etc. breach fair use. This would not be that simple.

Notwithstanding that I find it hard to believe Hasbro would sue their fans on account of My Little Pony being one of their most successful products of late. They are not idiots. The people at the top are probably a lot smarter than you are, and they know that we make them money, more money than they could ever hope to get out of a frivolous court case.
>> No. 119192
Hey, I was look around the place, and notice most of the 48 pages are a bunch of threads of people getting angry at them being made. Wouldn't it be a good idea to just go deleting those threads?
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>>119192
Mods are the only people that can delete threads (besides their maker) and they only lock them unless it's breaking a site rule (porn, gore ect.). Sometimes it's a lock with "deletion pending", but that's rare.

If I could, I would do it myself, but I'd probably go on a power trip halfway through so I suppose it's for the best that I can't.
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Does Nick come on here still? I have something I must show him.
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>>119319
Nicknack is dead...
In the figurative sense.
Chances are he'll never come back. Doesn't like the fandom, doesn't like the show, really doesn't like me. You know, Nick stuff.
>> No. 119321
>>119320
That's not quite what I heard, but maybe it is this.

>>119319
If you are ever gonna show him something, it's probably best just to post it here directly and he might catch a glimpse of it if he decides to check how far we have dug ourselves this time.

Or talk to Garnot, he has taken over all Nick business.

Or do both.
>> No. 119780
>>112263
test post.
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>>119780
Post test.
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>>119780
>>119803
Pest toast.
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>>119812
>>119803
>>119780
Toast Pest.
>> No. 119927
The link for the Training Grounds should be updated in the list of review threads. The new thread is >>119404
>> No. 119939
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>>119927
Reported this for you. You have to report update posts like this for the mods to notice usually.
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>>119927
>>119939

I'm not sure the moderation team has edit rights for the Google Doc list in question.
>> No. 119948
>>119943
Ahh, I assumed it was shared. I suppose someone needs to track down Demetrius, or perhaps Roger, in that case.
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>>119927
>>119948
Read the document. It says that Filler manages it.
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>>119974
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>>119939
Thanks, but I didn't report if because it's Filler I need to find, and I didn't want to bother the mods when they couldn't do anything. I would have pinged Filler, but he wasn't in the IRC at the time, so I figured he'd find it eventually since it is the sticky.

>>119989
Your gifs never fail to entertain me
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>>119974
>Ion-Sturm being told to read the sticky document

I may have to screencap this moment.
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>>120086
>> No. 120111
>>119927
I shoulda done that. I have edit rights to the doc too, and I'm the one who remade the thread.

In reality, numerous folks have edit rights to the doc (and I'm the one to blame for shoving rule 4 in there). Filler's the de facto guy in charge of updating it because he volunteered himself to be on call for updating it by putting requests to notify him of needed changes in the document at multiple places. Many people can edit because at one point I thought it would be good to have it like the old review board doc, where everyone updates their own stuff, but that wasn't popular enough of an idea. Plus, it's easier to have one point of contact who can update the doc if need be, since it takes all of 15 seconds to do so.
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>>120111
My fault on the snap-call. I just read "Update" and defaulted to thinking it involved the actual sticky.
>> No. 121566
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>>119321
>>119320
The problem is I haven't seen him on MSN in forever... :(
>> No. 121569
>>121566
How do I chatted with deleted IM account?

In all seriousness, I must admire how thorough, deliberate and determined Nick was in removing all traces of his e-Identity from the fandom's internets.
>> No. 121590
>>121569
>>121566
you know, if there is anything that needs to be shown pertaining to Nick, I'm the one to talk to, as I am now in control of all of his aspects. I'm currently updating Heart of Gold, seeing how the Two Beats restoration was a success as I've been told.

I don't frequent the IRC, as I fear my time will be cut by it. So, either contact me via the email here, my Fimfiction, or Nick's Fimfiction.
>> No. 122138
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There are some things that I never see on this board, and it makes me wonder why. The first is story reviews and the second is literary analyses.

Story Reviews: No, I don't mean what the Training Grounds does, I mean what Chris at One Man's Pony Ramblings does. Sure, we have the recommendation/request thread, but people don't post objective, thorough reviews there. They post recommendations. Then there's the monthly "most overrated fics" thread that gets swamped with "My Little Dashie" and "Past Sins" responses, but that's not particularly helpful either. So why don't we have a thread for people to post objective, well-thought-out reviews of stories they've read?

Literary Analysis: You know, what we all did in high school English. Picking examples of writing from good, bad, or popular stories and illustrating for everyone's benefit exactly what is good and what is bad about those pieces of writing. Those of us who have "reviewed" stories in TTG generally do this at a very basic level, for the benefit of a single story's author. Why not do it at a higher level with popular authors, for the general benefit? Why not publicly scrutinize My Little Dashie, relying heavily on quotes from the story to illustrate precisely what makes it mediocre? Why not put shortskirtsandexplosions under the spotlight? New authors need to be shown that writing isn't a process of luck, and that good stories are good because they accomplish specific goals, and that accomplishing these goals is a skill that can be learned, rather than a result of "genius" or "inspiration".
>> No. 122139
>>122138
So, start it and you'll have me at least joining in. I don't think anyone will mind.

Just don't expect it to be too much like English class; I can't imagine deconstruction or feminist-marxist criticism or such to be popular with this more craft-focused crowd.
>> No. 122141
>>122138
Unpopular opinion inbound.

The first one doesn't exists because Samurai anon basically said it wasn't the boards purpose--and something about it the board needing less thread and more organization--and then no one did it.

The second one as well.

Basically, one guy tried to focus the board into a single place and then the new people came they didn't cause everyone else said didn't. So blame Samurai, people might say otherwise but from what I saw, he was stopping most of those.
>> No. 122195
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>>122138
>Story Reviews: No, I don't mean what the Training Grounds does, I mean what Chris at One Man's Pony Ramblings does. Sure, we have the recommendation/request thread, but people don't post objective, thorough reviews there. They post recommendations. Then there's the monthly "most overrated fics" thread that gets swamped with "My Little Dashie" and "Past Sins" responses, but that's not particularly helpful either. So why don't we have a thread for people to post objective, well-thought-out reviews of stories they've read?
That's an interesting idea, and I'd actually like to see it happen. Why people aren't doing it, well, most people haven't even thought of doing so, much less dare to, because they don't quite qualify, I myself being chief example. The thing about TG-style reviewing is all you need to be is a reader, someone who reads and can formulate an opinion. Entry requirements really aren't all that high. The thing about the sort Chris does is that you need to be pretty darn well-read to be able to comment on areas as thoroughly and, for the lack of a better word, professionally. Chris' evident knowledge is his credentials. After Chris, though, people will want to make sure that the opinion they're reading is a good one, and not that many people have that sort of reputation weight to toss around. In short, it's a venture with high requirements and low return potential. For example, I recall Josh Meihaus having a blog that dissected episodes. I don't think it's got as much traffic as Chris' does (I'm happy to be proven wrong).

Also, imo, TG-style reviews function better as a means for authors to improve, because you don't have to worry about making it accessible to a broad audience. Which is kinda what /fic/'s main purpose is. Doesn't mean that we can't have it, just that, y'know, a wholesale substitution of review for review uhh would make it harder for authors to improve.

>Literary Analysis: You know, what we all did in high school English. Picking examples of writing from good, bad, or popular stories and illustrating for everyone's benefit exactly what is good and what is bad about those pieces of writing. Those of us who have "reviewed" stories in TTG generally do this at a very basic level, for the benefit of a single story's author. Why not do it at a higher level with popular authors, for the general benefit? Why not publicly scrutinize My Little Dashie, relying heavily on quotes from the story to illustrate precisely what makes it mediocre? Why not put shortskirtsandexplosions under the spotlight? New authors need to be shown that writing isn't a process of luck, and that good stories are good because they accomplish specific goals, and that accomplishing these goals is a skill that can be learned, rather than a result of "genius" or "inspiration".
Isn't that pretty much the same as above, except that it's a more community-geared thing? Well, yeah, it can be done, but then you'd have "That's just your opinion" "If you don't like it, don't read it!11!" "lolwut" and, my personal fav, "haters gunn hate" flooding your thread. If, of course, it attracts such traffic, and this is /fic/ after all.
>> No. 122197
>>122138
It's been suggested many, many times, but most people here don't have the time/energy/motivation to spearhead it. A few times, individuals were close to starting a blog, but those efforts fell apart for various reasons.

So, interest in consuming is high within the /fic/ circle, but not so much for creating. Outside of /fic/, who knows.
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>>122195

>Isn't that pretty much the same as above

Well, the two activities aren't really that separate in practice. But the way I'm thinking about it, "reviews" have the goal of helping readers decide what to read, while "analysis" has the goal of helping writers learn to write better. So each activity would be tailored to its own purpose and audience.

I think the "haters gunn hate" responses to analyses could be minimized perhaps by sticking to analyzing the missteps of popular stories that everyone agrees are good overall, and not going after the sacred cows like MLD (maybe?). I dunno, I was just throwing the idea out there, mostly for motivated folks looking for ways to help others learn, since it seems to me that illustrating the effects of good and bad writing practices by making reference to actual written works is far more pedagogically effective than lecturing about the rules of writing in abstracto. Plus when you dissect a piece of work to its author's face, the author tends to be defensive, but people can be more receptive when you're dissecting someone's else's baby.

But for reviews, I just feel like the supply of well-written story reviews isn't close to meeting the demand right now. To illustrate: if I want to find a good story to read right now, I have to
(1) pick something from EqD, which is basically a chance draw. It might be really good, it might be mediocre, it might be something decent but which I'd find tasteless, and these could be the case no matter what the star ratings or comments look like.
(2) Fimfiction's featured box. Need I say more?
(3) Recommendations from other users. But if a story's popular it'll always find someone to recommend it.
(4) Read a story I haven't read from an author I already know I like. Obviously this doesn't benefit new authors or contribute much to diversity in reading.

So I just feel like having more actual story reviews, written for the reading audience and not for the authors, would help readers a lot.
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Picture unrelated.

>>122197
That one blog that does reviews of five star fics was pretty popular, last I heard, so I'd bet folks would read it if the word got out.

See also DPV getting hundreds of followers recently just because he was going to recommend a few fics per week.

>>122259
If it helps, I'd offer up one of my stories that is popular but I know is flawed (I wrote it in a week, for Shiva's sake) for the blog/group's first feature/dissection/whatever it'd end up being. Having an example of content might help others see what it is and become interested, although I assume most stories wouldn't be author submitted. Still, gotta start somewhere. http://www.fimfiction.net/story/6219/Interference

I'd love to see something like this get off the ground, but I'm a little too busy to spearhead it, sadly.
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>>122141
>>122197
The answer to almost every question about "why don't we have ___ on this board" boils down to this: it's the dynamic of the imageboard and how the community evolved that have made it less a place for ___ than for what it's most commonly used for. Its transient/ephemeral nature makes it ideal for point-blank discussion about writing, whereas presentation-type activities (i.e. writing longer literary analyses or having a spotlight for an individual story) don't fit into the works very well, except in certain circumstances.

I mean, just look at the format of the board; it's more like a news / social feed than a blogging platform. However, lest we forget: the tradition of reviewing for helping authors was started by a few dedicated individuals who decided to start organizing the place back when the mods turned a blind eye to it. Thus, I'm sure that if enough people were to write reviews of stories not intended for the authors and start a thread dedicated to that purpose, and those who started it were motivated/talented enough, the community could gain new purpose.
>> No. 123145
>>/meta/131059
>> No. 123261
>>123145
>fic content discussion

There's a skype room to discuss this, if anyone wants to.
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>>123261
Knowing who to contact to get into with would be great and just a little necessary. Besides, I thought the consensus was "Bleeding is over-reacting, carry on as always with the possibility of adding a few sentences to the sticky".
>> No. 123276
>>123261
Wait. There is a skype room? Why isn't that on the sticky?
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>>123276
Same reason the IRC isn't; it's not an official mod resource.
>> No. 123285
>>123284
Wait, what?
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>>123285
We have an IRC, #fic (I think the link can be found in the TG thread). It isn't listed in the sticky because it's not something the mods officially endorse. I don't think they've ever visit it.
>> No. 123297
>>123289
>>123289
Sturm, the room is the same one moony set up for that art/fic/eqd thing a while back. If you don't have access still, just email me your skype name. Same goes for anyone who wants to talk about this dead horse.
>> No. 123479
Because the current one is hideously outdated...

#@first_heading Posting Rules
#@greeting Hello, and welcome to /fic/! We're a board that would love to help you with your story, but there are a few rules we all need to follow to keep everything running smoothly:
!119870|storyforge|Story Ideas|Story Forge (story idea general)|Sharing and giving feedback on each other's story ideas, and general discussion of story development
!121064|recommendation|Recommendation &amp; Request|Recommendation and Request General|Looking for some recommended reading? Ask for some suggestions here, or recommend fanfiction you consider noteworthy to others.
!122969||Ask an EqD Pre-Reader Anything|The Official Ask an Equestria Daily Pre-reader Anything thread|What it says in the title. Ask questions to Equestria Daily pre-readers, get answers.
122131|||Reviewing for Synopses|What it says on the tin.
122328|||/fic/ Reviews Stories|Reader reviews. Other readers read stories and give reasons for whether you should read them too.
83737||TCB Side Stories|The Conversion Bureau Side Stories|Side stories of the well-known Human-in-Equestria story series "The Conversion Bureau".
58852|||<em>Fallout: Equestria</em> side stories|All side stories, spin-offs and derivative works of KKat's <em>Fallout: Equestria</em>.
107767||Sensual Fiction|Sensual Fiction General|The main thread for stories involving physical expressions of romance between characters.
98578||M/M Shipping|Male-Male Shipping General|Shipping between male characters.

Paste it in here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57284761/fic-directory-helper-abbrev.html
Hit "Preview", then "Generate".

I replaced some dead threads with some newer developments.
>> No. 123820
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Cumulative archive of /fic/ (can't remember when I started taking snapshots, but it was early this year) ending Oct 2, 2012:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57284761/chan.fic.res.tar.7z
Don't click unless you want to download 20 megs.

I also wrote some Python to hunt for the threads with the greatest frequency of any given poster (name/trip). Most of the ones with the greatest anon posts were 2011. Practically anything is possible in terms of data mining with a little regex. Email me if you want any more info (or have a request for a piece of data or statistic to be cherry-picked).
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>>123820
After about 5 hours of processing, I've got this parsed into an sqlite3 database with a single table containing the following columns: id, tid, is_op, contents, poster, tripcode, email, created. The database consists of 74,882 rows of /fic/ history. I'll be extracting some possibly interesting data from this soon.

Anyway, if you want the database for yourself: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/68611394/Fic.db.7z (14.3MB, 63.2MB decompressed)

Because there's a good load of raw email addresses in that data, I password protected the archive. Contact me in private by whatever means are appropriate if you'd like the password.
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>>123892
So, what is this doing exactly? Measuring how often certain people post?
/code virgin
>> No. 123931
>>123895
It means I have a buttload of data.

A single table in a database is pretty much just a spreadsheet. This particular spreadsheet has 74882 of /fic/'s posts in it. What you can do with it depends on how creative you get. Simple stuff like poster frequencies is a cinch: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/68611394/FicPosterFreq.txt

Some other simple data:

Total posts in DB: 74882
Total saged posts: 14978 (20.00%)
Total anon posts: 9893 (13.21%)
Total trip posts: 31278 (41.77%)
>> No. 123937
Bump limit for the board has been raised to 800 posts.
>>/meta/131336
>> No. 123941
>>123892
I must say I enjoy the bandying we have, one-upping each other in terms of coming up with random stuff in our spare time.

>>123895
Yeah, like a spreadsheet pretty much. You can sort, you can select, you can search and reduce and whatnot else. The data is more flexible and easier to use. In the form of markup, posts are just indiscriminate blobs of text scattered throughout a big hideously messy HTML file (a thread) that's not even human-readable to some extent.
>> No. 123956
>>123941
Well, I did go one step further and make some pretty graphs and stuff...

Pretty graphs and stuff: http://goo.gl/AgHSc

If you want me to extract your post frequency and put it on a timeline, or if you have any other kinds of data you'd like extracted, just gimme a holler ay.
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>>123956
Might I request mine? I believe you know the name of my alt, too, which would be necessary for the earlier months.

Those "Total Posts" numbers look rather big. Are the saged posts separate from the Trip and Anon posts or could there be double-counting with those? Perhaps another factor that isn't included in the graph?
>> No. 123965
>>123961
A post could count towards the post count total without being sage'd, trip'd, or anon'd—any post by anyone who fills the "Name" field in would be doing that. Just as well, a single post could be a sage and a trip post (because you can sage while posting with your trip).

There's post count graphs in the sheet now too: http://goo.gl/AgHSc#gid=13

I'll probably merge counts for names that are similar to get clearer results there (for example, Minjask posting as both Minjask and Minjask6572). For the timeline, though, I think it's better to leave them as is (you can see around when a user changed their name).

I'll get on putting your alt in the post frequency timeline.
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>>123965
I'm going to guess that the sticky proposal was made in September.

Also, wow, I post a lot.

Also, cool graph. Big props for this; it was a fun look at /fic/'s timeline. I can't even wrap my head around how you did this, so we'll just say it's magic.
>> No. 123987
>>123975
The parsing was a little bit funky because of some oddities in the data, but once it's in the database reading it to make the graphs is relatively trivial.

Anyway, extraction script: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/68611394/fic-posts-parse.pl.txt
Reading script: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/68611394/fic-posts-read.pl.txt

The last line of the parsing script was writing each entry individually, which was mostly why it took so long. (It was writing at like 4KB / second.) If I'd changed it to map all the data first, it probably would've been a heck of a lot quicker.

As you can see, because CPAN is super awesome, getting the Fog, Flesch, and Kincaid levels calculated was incredibly simple.
>> No. 123992
>>123987
>As you can see, because CPAN is super awesome, getting the Fog, Flesch, and Kincaid levels calculated was incredibly simple.
I was wondering about these. What, exactly, do they signify?
>> No. 123996
>>123992
http://search.cpan.org/~kimryan/Lingua-EN-Fathom-1.15/lib/Lingua/EN/Fathom.pm#fog
>> No. 124024
>>123996
Ahh, okay. Thanks!

I suppose some of the numbers are thrown off by the copying of story errors into posts and judicious use of abbreviations and pony-related puns.
>> No. 124532
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/FIC/ HAS MOVED TO MLPCHAN

http://mlpchan.net/fic/index.html

Please, mods, add a note to the sticky about the move and (if it happens) the boards' syndication as per this thread: >>/meta/131361
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>>124532
you are welcome to take your section of /fic/ to mlpchan, though we do hope you'll visit.

Ponychan /fic/ will remain, of course!
>> No. 124542
>>124534
>>124532
A bit of a correction: The Training Grounds and several other review threads have moved or expanded to MLPChan.
>> No. 124546
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>>124542

This, yes.

Some folks have decided to take up shop over on one of our sister sites, MLPchan. In addition, The Training Grounds is now active on both sites. Anyone looking for a review can find review threads on both sites, of course.

At the same time, it does seem that the /fic/ here is maintaining an active community of its own, and as such it would be misinformation to tell anyone that the community has moved wholesale to a new place.
>> No. 124573
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Not even a few days after the "official move" and old members are already demanding that these boards be shut down. So much for offering people a choice, guys.
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>>124573

It's funny because only one person has asked for a threat to close. And he was the one who adamantly opposed the move.

:V
>> No. 124576
>>124573
Don't you see? It was never about offering people a choice. It was called an 'official move' for a reason. It had to be official. It had to be everyone. It was a few old-timers who wanted to kill the board to make a point. And from the look of it, they succeeded. They said what they needed to to convince people at the time, but now that their board is established all bets are off, and that story doesn't matter anymore.
>> No. 124580
Call me confused, but I always thought the choice was "does /fic/ move as a group or not?" and the answer was yes.
Then the syndication business came along where you didn't have to.
Then stuff started moving, Azu tried to get the place closed and then people are wining about a choice that I don't recall seeing ever in the discussion (unless you count kurbz and vimbert statements, but those were said to be missing the point).

So... what are you on about?

Also, why close the place up anyway?
>> No. 124581
>>124576
You are so cynical that whenever you take a drink from a water source it becomes tainted.
With cyanide.
In case it wasn't clear enough.
My analogies suck.

>>124580
Hello, Confused! Why is your name field listed as "Anonymous" when your name is "Confused"? This confuses me.
Whether or not individual members close up their threads is entirely their choice. Threads that are a group effort, though, should remain open unless a unanimous decision were to be reached by all active members to close it down. Azu overstepped his boundaries and acted on behalf of the entire TTG thread's populace without properly consulting with them and his actions should not reflect on the other maintainers of said thread or those who have chosen to move (or not) as a whole.

Personally, I am of the belief that the TG should remain open, in part thanks to the fact that the actual queue is handled on an off-shore installation guarded by a thousand screaming monkeys armed with rocket-propelled jetpacks that have been mounted with Vulcan turrets Google Docs and, as such, transcends such meaningless boundaries as a simple thread.
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>>124573
>Not even a few days after the "official move" and old members are already demanding that these boards be shut down. So much for offering people a choice, guys.
No one’s demanding that anything be shut down. In fact, I’m of the opinion that both boards should be kept running, and should contain the same content, ergo my push for syndication.

>>124576
>Don't you see? It was never about offering people a choice. It was called an 'official move' for a reason. It had to be official. It had to be everyone. It was a few old-timers who wanted to kill the board to make a point. And from the look of it, they succeeded. They said what they needed to to convince people at the time, but now that their board is established all bets are off, and that story doesn't matter anymore.
Oi, sorry if I’m raining on your tinfoil hat, but that’s just not correct. We want to ensure that at least one board is manned well enough to survive; if the community is split in two, the community dies. That’s not what anyone wanted to happen, so that’s why an “all or nothing” policy was adopted. From the looks of things, that hasn’t happened. I am sorry if I was overzealous in my presentation, but I only wished to inform unaware users of their choices. I should have been more neutral in my proclamation, but at the time it seemed like the core and base of /fic/ had settled down comfortably on MLPchan, hence my use of “/fic/ has moved”. I will be more caring in my word choice from now on.

Also, it would help if we weren’t being stonewalled on /meta/ (>>/meta/131361 and >>/meta/131326), the former of which hasn’t been resolved at all. Syndication has garnered a good amount of support, and it would be a shame to see it fail for simple apathy.
>> No. 124587
>>124585
>Stonewalled

While you won't be hearing me say the speed and dedication into solving stuff is the tradition of the place (recent or otherwise), I think you need to stop trying to be the spoke-person because that's terrible word choice again.

The first thread involves two guys who have been acting childishly (if both their description of each other is to be believed as true) working together to bring about something which has been describe as technically demanding (if not outright ridiculous). A technically demanding (or ridiculously difficult) solution, mind you, for a group of people whose main claims to fame is that they are dicks and aren't afraid to be dicks, that they are independent enough that the internet could die and they would still reviews others stories by a complex set of telephone calls, and that its members like to make extremely protracted and difficult to follow fights in all shapes of drama and seem to not actually give a rat ass about the place except when an outsider comes poking in his head.

While not saying it sounds like a waste of time, how important do you truly think you are that you can get Orange and Anonthony in a single conversation and have it end productively in a short period of time while they still publicly accuse each other of blocking the opposing mod team while denying they did it themselves? Sounds less like you are being stonewalled and more like you need to focus on actually helping them stop circling around the important "work together" step of the issue, instead of whining that it isn't being agreed upon faster.

As for the second one, Orange has specifically said that he needs people to communicate with him to get anything done, and /fic/ has the nasty habit of not communicating and all the recent improvements could have been made if only he had ever heard of them. Ignoring the fact some of them were suggested beforehand, months ago in fact, because this is a new and renewed period of openness and interaction, I simply a thread of /fic/ people looking at Orange with suspicion and dropping small suggestion to see how they pan out. Up to now, they have been panning out magnificently and getting the petitions done in short order, and your only comments there have been:

1.) Talking about how a terrible decision increasing the post count was.

2.) Talking again about the syndication business.

So, I don't know what meaning of stonewall you are looking at, but if they don't seem to be totally on top of it, you might want to actually settled a "let us work together rather than passive-aggressively accuse each other" place for discussion as that is clearly the issue, and then look again at the thread and all the fast responses.

Whew, had to get that out of my system.
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>>124587
It was Ion-Sturm who got his knickers in a twist over the post count, not dolfues. Aside from that, bravo, well spoken.
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>>124587
Stonewall:
>Delay or block (a request, process, or person) by refusing to answer questions or by giving evasive replies, esp. in politics.

Let’s focus just on my thread (>>/meta/131361) for the moment. It had a sister thread on mlpchan, (http://mlpchan.net/site/res/4129.html). Now, compare the threads. Do you notice anything different in the way it was handled? In the way the moderators responded?

Syndication was my olive branch. Whether each administrator grabbed hold of it was up to them.

I’m a nobody, but I’m the one who decided to say something, to start the conversation and to be a part of it. I took up the mantle of ambassador because the need was there, and the current delegation was not resolving the issues. You can decide for yourself if Orange is adequately serving the needs of his users. Having to use both sites myself, I believe the choice is obvious, and the enthusiasm (or lack thereof) obvious.

I do wish you the best, though, Anonymous.

Edit:
>>124590
I was peeved, but Ion had a fit. Both our knickers were knit a mite too tight.
>> No. 124593
>>124590
While I try, I just wanted to make sure two points which I don't think I made too clear come across:

1.) While recent speed of updates is great, being surprised /fic/ doesn't go to /meta/ anymore is like being surprised that your dog stop visiting you after you starved it and poked it with a stick every so often for the sheer tingle in the goolies. Even if you then bought it expensive food and made a nice house, he probably still thinks you are an asshole.

2.) I don't think Dolfeus is wrong in asking for syndication, but his expectations of it happening because it sounds like such an awesome idea are too farfetch without he actually trying to help the process along with more than "Are you done yet?"

3.) You can look at the thread and find his two posts, he actually did make a point about the necroing of threads.

>>124591
I can see a couple of differences:

1.) Ponychan's thread is three times as big and contains more discussion in how it should be implemented. And a bunch of other crap relating to how Orange is slow as implementing stuff (and his retort that he isn't psychic).

2.) In the Ponychan thread there were two mods commenting and asking questions.

3.) Most of the discussion in the MLP side of things has nothing to do with syndication.

Similarities:

1.) Neither of those who actually have to deal with the spaghetti nightmare have commented about the implementation of syndication or even refer to it.

2.) The admins insists that each other is blocking progress.

I have no love for Orange, but you are coming as oddly demanding and not all that much helpful, and trying to make it sound like Orange is more to blame than any other person in this discussion. Sorry, but that won't really fly with me, because that's not what's going on. It's far less malicious and far more stupider than that.
>> No. 124598
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>>124585
>>124587
>>124591
Why in the blue blazes is everyone talking about Thomas Jackson?
>> No. 124630
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I am really, really not trying to be a stick-in-the-mud about the move. My request may also ring a bit hollow since I haven't actively reviewed in TTG for a while though I did spend about twelve hours today on private reviews, thanks kindly. But I humbly request that we leave TTG running on both chans until the PRs are more united in supporting MLPchan's /fic/, or until the two boards can be syndicated.

Yes yes, there's >>123725 as a few individuals are so quick to point out. There's also >>123673 (whose points were allegedly "dispelled" but he himself never conceded that) and >>124563 (posted after the discussion and move) and some other sources who prefer to remain unnamed (and if you wanna call BS on that, fine whatever). Point is, I do not see PR unity on endorsing MLPchan/fic/ at this moment in time. Possibly at some point. Possibly not before the current Training Grounds thread autosages.

Syndication is being discussed ad infinitum at >>/meta/131361

The Training Grounds is inherently a magnanimous endeavor. It connects writers is need with generous strangers willing to take the time to help them. EQD plays a role in this by serving as the primary advertiser. I certainly hadn't heard of this place before EQD mentioned it. Yes, I'm aware EQD isn't the sole means of finding TTG; this has been discussed in previous threads. It's certainly a large one, though.

TTG helps the community. EQD promoting TTG helps the community. If EQD (theoretically and perhaps hyperbolically) stops promoting TTG by virtue of not having a gateway to it on Ponychan, that hurts the community. It's fine if the entire /fic/ community wants to live on MLPchan; I just want a gateway here, for the sake of the writers that TTG is meant to help.
>> No. 124631
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>>124630
Even if the TG was, for some reason, entirely shuttered up here (and I'm not saying it is going to be or should), its MLPchan equivalent could always be linked to from the sticky for people that find their way here instead of the new place.

>(whose points were allegedly "dispelled" but he himself never conceded that)
I proved conclusively that FimFiction's mature content is both more readily available and easier to access than MLPchan's. His lack of a reply on the matter can only lead me to believe that he has conceded the point.

If I could be frank for a moment, I, personally, view EqD's relationship with the TG as being almost parasitic. Not only does the pre-reader team shunt off rejects to the thread, but EqD itself has absorbed many of the reviewers from it into the pre-reader collective. While a few of the visitors may stay and help review, many take their corrections and pack their bags without a second thought, sometimes without so much as a thank-you-very-much.

Obviously, EqD can't help much with the latter, but the former is within their domain. I think it would be an excellent opportunity to improve and expand upon /fic/ and EqD's mutually beneficial relationship if EqD advertised that the TG team would appreciate more reviewers. Those who don't meet the requirements set forth by the pre-readers to join the group could still contribute to the fandom and sharpen their teeth in the TG as they help other writers, with the carrot of improving enough to join the pre-readers hanging in front of them. EqD may advertise for the TG and /fic/ in general, but advertisements are only beneficial if they attract the sort of folks that can aid in the development and expansion of your project, after all.
>> No. 124633
>>124631
>His lack of a reply on the matter can only lead me to believe that he has conceded the point.
Perhaps. I suppose I shouldn't put words in his mouth either. At bare minimum, it's Cassius's word vs. Daffodil's. Where once there was unity, now there isn't.

>the pre-reader team shunt off rejects to the thread
It's not the prereaders' job to edit, nor should it be. I don't begrudge the stove maintenance man for not cooking me lunch. He may be perfectly capable of making me a sandwich, but his work is needed elsewhere. My understanding, for the past few recent weeks, is that TTG queue has been treading water much better than EQD's submit queue, FWIW.

>EqD itself has absorbed many of the reviewers from it into the pre-reader collective
That sounds like issues with individuals, which you have repeatedly requested we avoid during the move discussion.

>many take their corrections and pack their bags without a second thought
Has nothing to do with EQD.

>if EqD advertised that the TG team would appreciate more reviewers.
That seems only fair to me, considering the help we give them.

>advertisements are only beneficial if they attract the sort of folks that can aid in the development and expansion of your project
I agree that a steady stream of reviewers is needed to keep the system intact, but I also restress that the system exists to benefit writers, not reviewers.
>> No. 124635
>>124633
I'm not really sure why their endorsement is needed. It would be pretty irresponsible for pre-readers to continue to redirect people here if there was no one left. They should be sending people where authors will get the best help, wherever that happens to be.
>> No. 124645
>>124635
And we already said we'd do that.
>> No. 124647
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>>124645
Your statement in the move thread made it sound as if pre-readers sending people to the TG was on a personal basis. I assumed it implied that some pre-readers did so while others did not.

>>124633
>That sounds like issues with individuals, which you have repeatedly requested we avoid during the move discussion.
It's a separate point that is not related (at least, directly) with the move discussion. It's purely between EqD and the reviewer base; which board/site/alternate dimension the reviewers operate from has no impact on this (unless the pre-readers adopt a stance of bias against people from one or the other for whatever reason, but I find that unlikely).

>Has nothing to do with EQD.
As I noted myself,
>Obviously, EqD can't help much with the latter
My point was that EqD could assist in reducing those numbers via directed marketing, or at least improve the ratio of those who stay to review versus those that leave after being reviewed.

>I agree that a steady stream of reviewers is needed to keep the system intact, but I also restress that the system exists to benefit writers, not reviewers.
Of course, but if the reviewers are swamped with one-and-dones and no one stays behind, they'll burn out and work will begin to pile up. The writers will receive better and faster assistance if we have more reviewers, so it's in everyone's best interests if the reviewers are enabled to grow and expand.
>> No. 124648
>>124647
Apparently you missed Cass' announcement on our behalf stating that we'd see if mlpchan could offer the same amount of help to writers.
>> No. 124649
>>124648
I saw that. His made it sound like directing people was a collective decision, while yours was on a personal basis, which is why I was confused by it.
>> No. 124664
>>124648
I was led to believe otherwise from >>124563. But if the PRs will follow TTG, that's a huge load off my mind.
>> No. 124673
>>124664
We'll follow it if we see that substantive advice and help is being given.
>> No. 124675
>>124673
Hi, what does that mean? It's the very same people doing the same thing, so what are you going to see? Or did the move damaged the community?
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>>124675
>>124673
For the time being it appears to be maintained in both places. Hence, there's no reason to advocate one board over another in regard to The 'Grounds. Couldn't hurt to let people know both places are available though.

Maintaining it in two places is mainly a difficulty for the maintainers, who must keep up with threads in both places. But I'm working on a solution on mlpchan.
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Look to the East, at what's been done
Which leaves my mind aghast
A group once united, now divided
These events cannot be turned back

Let one walk left, another right
And let the distance e'er increase
'Til each huddles for warmth in their corners apart
And regrets and memories never cease
>> No. 124688
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>>124687

It's funny because the people who were in favor of the move still check in once in a while.
>> No. 124689
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>>124687

It's funny because the people who were in favor of the move still check in once in a while.

Also, Condescending Anon #281, you left your car parked in the hallway. I'm sure the janitors will have fun disassembling it. The parts'll make some nice quick cash.
>> No. 124690
>>124689
I'm pretty sure that's demetrius, if my visits to the annal of fics and his constant use of Discord pics are anything to go by. I don't think it matters anymore because that message probably means that he won't be coming back. So long, and thanks for all the fish.
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>>124690
> I'm pretty sure that's demetrius, if my visits to the annal of fics and his constant use of Discord pics are anything to go by.
A few anon posts here and there with Discord pics, and all of a sudden everyone thinks it's me when an anon posts with a Discord pic.

No, >>124687 wasn't me. I don't want to have to beg a mod to vouch for that.* I don't care much for board politics, true. But I still do care about reviewing and saving people's effort through organization of reviewing and whatnot. I'll still be around, but more on MLPChan than here; if I review anything, it will be there, and if I write any code or doc tools for imageboards, it will be for that place.

* (I haven't refreshed my PPPoE session in well over a month, and thus have had the same IP address for all of my recent posts. On rare occasion I'll post from my phone over a wireless data network, in which case it's extremely difficult to include an image).
>> No. 126130
Hello there, and sorry for the incoming wall of text.

I've been writing a fic for several months (I've got the idea in June, I've started to write it in September). Right now, my most recent version of the story is about... 2 pages long. And I spend about 5 minutes per sentence, that is to say, about 3 hours per page, which is awfully long.

It's partially due to the fact that I'm not an English native speaker (speaking of which, you may notice a few errors here and there, in this post). But I've tried to write it in my mother tongue, and it's not better.

Let's face it: the true problem isn't the language, I'm simply bad at writing. Seriously, who would spend 6 hours to write 2 pages (which are probably going to be modified dozens of times in the future, anyway)?

It's probably my fault. I should be more patient. I should also write a lot of short stories and get them reviewed on the TG. But, sadly, I'm not that patient. It'd probably take me one year or two to get enough English knowledge, and I already have been thinking about the story since June. I'd become mad if I had to wait such a long time.

On the other hand hoof, I don't want to just abandon my fic(s) and do something else. As I've already said, I've exploited the idea for several months, it would be too bad.

The Story Ideas thread doesn't attract me either, since I see it like that: take my idea, you just have to write it and get all the credits while I'll get nothing more than, in the best-case scenario, a mere "Thanks to that guy on /fic/ for the idea" in the end of the description of the story. I'm probably wrong, but I just don't want to do it with my idea that I've developed for months, it'd be a huge wall of text on the thread, nobody would even read it.


So, I'm looking for a guy who would be crazy patient enough to write for me the fic. Of course, the guy should be at ease with the English language, it goes without saying. He and me would be co-authors.

I've very little hope that I'll find somebody here who would accept that, but one never knows. If someone is interested in it, or wants to "review" my 2 pathetics pages/learn more about my story idea, please write here an email address to which I'd send more details.


Can I create a new thread for this, or should I rather look for a pre-existent one (if so, which one)?

Thanks in advance.
>> No. 126131
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>>126130
See, unless you commission* something, no one is going to write a story for you. If you can type out a "wall of text" as you say, then you can probably write a story. If you think that your plot is bad then write an outline first. I've found that outlining helps that words to come out much faster. Though I'd suggest getting someone to look at your outlines first before you start.

*Edit: As in pay us. You know, with money.

Last edited at Tue, Jan 15th, 2013 17:38

>> No. 126134
>>126131
In the Story Ideas thread, there is no question about commissions. Here, it's basically the same thing, the only difference is that the idea is more precise than the majority of posts I see on this thread. (Which is a good thing, isn't it? The writer knows better what to write, doesn't he?)

But if I don't see anybody interested by my idea, I might end with commissionning somebody for that. The problems are: price? It´s the 1st time I ever see someone (and it´s me) paying somebody else to write his idea, so I'm not really sure about how much would ask a "good" writer. Any estimations?
Second problem: who? Will I be authorized to create a thread to seek authors?

About the "wall of text", a post on a thread is way shorter to do (and easier) than a passage from a story, I hope that you are aware of that difference.

I don't think that my plot is bad (like if I was going to say the contrary), but thank you, it certainly needs some help. I'll do it soon.
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>>126130
>>126134
Things I need to know:
What is your idea?
How long of a story is it you're imagining?
Your Social Insurance Number, credit card number, personal details and everything else I would need to steal your identity
Do you want something that gets the job done, or something that is great?
Cash, credit, first borne, check, or soul?
Are you prepared to be waiting a long time/forever (note that I won't ask for anything up front)?
>> No. 126146
>>126139
If you weren't joking, then I need first to know what you've already written, please. Otherwise, I'll not even know how "good" you are at writing. If you're not good enough, it's useless to send you all the info.

Last edited at Wed, Jan 16th, 2013 05:01

>> No. 126167
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>>126146
You make it sound as if sending the info is some herculean task. Even if you must prepare it for me and I do not meet your needs, it is not as if your time would have been wasted. After all, you would have your information in order for the next writer.


Do note that "Ion-Sturm" isn't my regular writing name. I tend to use "Lightsideluc" for tagging my work.

The following four stories are all the entries I've ever made for /fic/'s regular write-offs.

Darkness, took first: http://writeoff.rogerdodger.me/fic/10-Darkness
A Deal to Last a Lifetime, placed third: http://writeoff.rogerdodger.me/fic/66-A-Deal-to-Last-a-Lifetime
Spikes and Stones, tied for third: http://writeoff.rogerdodger.me/fic/259-Spikes-and-Stones
Playing Along, first in user voting, second in judging: http://writeoff.rogerdodger.me/fic/226-Playing-Along

Do note that those stories haven't been completely swept for errors, since they were written under a time limit.

Gossip Guards, one of the winning entries for Pony in a Box Productions' script contest, a group that does radio plays: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ewb54MbR1slzkUk4JjcK9BLSCDzLrurLCNpEPbqHz3c/edit

Onyx Origins and the Orb of Omnipotence, a Choose Your Own Adventure-style story, written with humour in mind: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11_D4Q8Gv8CuvMklxue4jeqLr0gK4DqoJk4N8D8LRImw/edit?hl=en_US#

More is available upon request.

Last edited at Thu, Jan 17th, 2013 04:00

>> No. 126181
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>>126146
>>126167

Admittedly, I'm curious of what your story is about. What's the premise? Or, if telling that would bare the whole kit and caboodle (that is, spoil it and reveal all the important details you've been working on), you could just say what the synopsis is?

Oh, and someone who writes other people's stories for money is called a ghostwriter. It's a legitimate profession.

I'm not entirely sure that you should have to pay someone to have your story told, though. I'm not a capable author enough myself to do it, and even if I was I seem to be more and more strapped for time as of late. But I don't doubt that there is someone out there with the skill necessary for your project who would help you out for free.

Research stories on FiMFic which did well in your genre. Check to see if the author is still active (logged in within the last few weeks), and send him or her a PM. If you're persistent enough, someone might actually accept. (Make sure you're "requesting" it in that case, not "commissioning" it.)

Yes, Ion, I might be ruining your chance at a buck or two, but—.

If you're too lazy, Anonymous, to do the work, I guess you can always just accept Ion's offer. (Or even find another person entirely. There are plenty to choose from here. Some are extremely capable writers who wouldn't snub their noses at an extra dollar.) Unfortunately, I'm not proficient in the going rates for ghostwriters these days, and fan-fic is a beast all its own...


Though, if you do choose the easy path, don't come back crying because Ion (or whoever you happen to hire) does something stupid or unprofessional. /fic/ is not a business, however much I'd like it to be.

Last edited at Thu, Jan 17th, 2013 17:18

>> No. 126196
>>126167
>>126181
Hehehe... Well, Ion, you can blame dolfeus for this. Thanks to him (or "because of him", in your case), I'll be looking for a "ghostwriter" on fimfiction.net. Unless nobrony talented enough there does accept to write it for free, and if I don't find anybrony better than you for this commission, I will put aside your "candidature". Sorry. (I assume you were applying for the "commission" part, not the "request" one.)

Still, thank you for linking to your works. They do seem great! It's always much better than my work, anyway...

And you forgot to tell me what price you would have wanted. Now it's a bit useless, but it may be useful if I "choose" you in the end.

@dolfeus: Please, give me an email address to which I'll send the synopsis. I'm really sorry, but I hate publicly showing my unfinished "works".

>Though, if you do choose the easy path, don't come back crying because Ion (or whoever you happen to hire) does something stupid or unprofessional. /fic/ is not a business, however much I'd like it to be.
Of course, I won't complain if I do that and the result doesn't meet my expectations. As you said, we're on a board, I don't plan to sign a contract ;)

>(Or even find another person entirely. There are plenty to choose from here. Some are extremely capable writers who wouldn't snub their noses at an extra dollar.)
Unless everyone on fimfiction.net will be laughing at me, I don't plan to ask somebrony here (since there are more PRs and beginning authors here than talented writers, imHo).

One last thing: have you ever heard of ghostwriters for fanfictions? HA?

Last edited at Fri, Jan 18th, 2013 12:09

>> No. 126197
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>>126196
>All that underlining
Eww.

As I have never charged for my writing before, I would not know where to begin, which is why it would depend on the level of quality you required and the length of the story.

Keep in mind that you get what you pay for. Unless your idea (which you have yet to even provide) is simply so amazing that people can't help but write it, chances are you won't find a (good) author. I've had people beg me to write some of the ideas I've pitched, but none have offered to write it themselves. Closest I've gotten to that is Onyx Origins being the inspiration for another writer's CYOA.

>>126181
From now on, your name is Bidoofus.
:)
>> No. 126199
>>126197
Removed the underlining.
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>>126197
>From now on, your name is Bidoofus.

I am strangely okay with this.

>>126196

[email protected]

Last edited at Fri, Jan 18th, 2013 13:35

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>>126206
So, Bidoofus, is his idea any good? Feel free to PM me in the IRC. I'd at least like to know what it is he is/was planning after this little sideshow.
>> No. 126232
>>126206
Email sent.

>>126207
I highly doubt he'll be able to tell you if it's a good idea or not.
>> No. 126262
Anyone know what happened to MLPchan?
>> No. 126267
>>126262
DDOS. It's back up now.
>> No. 126969
Title: The Gray Area.
Author: Annakavanna
Email: [email protected]
Tags: [Dark][Adventure][Human]
Synopsis: Krysta, a human girl, is taken body and soul into the cosmos. So wronged has this girl been, that surely only the deep slumber of death itself could pacify the reach of despair within her.
Ever mysterious, the universe deposits young Krysta into a world without sin. However, one question remains. How can a sinner exist in such a world as this?
Link: http://www.fimfiction.net/story/46879/the-gray-area

Comments/requests:
The pre-reader of Equestria Daily said this:
Thank you for your submission. However, due to issues with tense consistency, its/it's confusion, and comma use, it cannot be forwarded to the pre-readers.

That was all they said, so I would like to think that is all that is wrong with it. However, what I would like to think isn't the same as what probably is. So! If someone would do me the great service of reviewing my story I would appreciate it very much.

Thank you in advance for your time and effort.
-Annakavanna
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>>126969
Hey, mate. Welcome to /fic/.

You seem to be trying to get your story reviewed. /fic/'s a great place for that! ...But this thread isn't. You've got to post your work in a review thread for the system to work.

You should check out >>126497 and its linked documents so that you can get your work reviewed as soon as possible.
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>>112263
The majority of my time on Ponychan has been spent over on /chat/, and I only recently started writing fanfics, so I'm not really sure I grok the etiquette over here. I've got a story online and I'm not necessarily looking for reviews, I'm just hoping to grab a few readers. Is it even acceptable to self-promote like that? If so, what's the accepted method of doing so?
>> No. 127464
>>127463
From what I understand, the rules were aimed to:

1.) Stop everyone from making a thread asking for help.

2.) Stop people from making seven billion threads discussing the same story.

So, if you want to promote your story here, just add a link, a description, and you are golden.
>> No. 127472
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>>127464
Here in this thread? Or would a new thread be OK?
>> No. 127474
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>>127472
If you're asking for a review it's best to ask in the Training Grounds thread.

Self Promotion: Make a thread and put all your work in it. Include a synopsis and links for each. Title it as an author thread.

Be warned, you're exposing your story to people who will criticize it into the ground if its full of mistakes.
>> No. 127656
So... I've had a story idea bouncing around in my head crying "Write me! Write me!". I really want to write it, but I want to have a co-writer too, since I have trouble coming up with ideas and development for stories on my own.

Should I post the idea in Storyforge and ask for a co-writer, or do something/go somewhere else?
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>>127656
Good on you for not making a thread to ask the question,

Write it out in the Story Forge, and do it well; a good first impression is of the utmost importance if you want to attract someone for a semi-reliable position of help. We here in /fic/ have a high set of standards and, simply put, there are a lot more stories than there are reviewers, so if you want yours to get consistent help you have to prove you're a capable enough writer to deserve it. That said, even if you don't coerce someone to hop on board as your pre-reader, you may still request reviews in one of the many threads dotting the board's landscape. You'll just have to wait in line, is all.

I'd suggest posting on MLPchan's /fic/ as well; it's more active. Follow this link to find your way to the appropriate thread: The Writer's Cafe[/url]
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>>127673
Piss and blood, I screwed up the URL tag and the system isn't letting me edit the post.
http://mlpchan.net/fic/res/49.html#49
There, that'll have to do for now.
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I have a lot of reading experience and I want to try my very best to help some writers. I have given feedback for some pretty good writers, who had apreciated it.
>> No. 128281
>>128265
so would you mind takeing a gander at my WIP?
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>>128265
>>128281
The Sticky probably isn't the best place to talk about this.
>> No. 128313
>>127673
>I'd suggest posting on MLPchan's /fic/ as well; it's more active.
Not if you don't count the posts where people say they're leaving and the threads complaining about a lack of traffic.
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>>128313
Timestamps: do you read them?
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I see the Sensual Fiction group is still a thing.

I'd get in trouble for saying my actual thoughts, so instead I'll be passive-aggressive and just imply them.
>> No. 128554
Generals:
>>107767 Sensual Fiction General
>>128414 Ask an Equestria Daily Pre-reader Anything
>>121064 Recommandations/Requests General
>>119870 Story Forge/Ideas General

Review threads:
>>129053 The Training Grounds/Open Reviewing
>>128162 Nicknack
>>128349 PinkieAnon

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