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120931 No. 120931
#Discussion #Shipping #Grimdark

Hey there, everypony!

Though I have several other fanfics in the works, I had an idea that I plan to start as soon as I finish one of my other fics, and I wanted to see what you guys thought of it.

It's basically going to be a sort of clopfic involving Cadance and Shining Armor, though it's mainly about Cadance and it's not going to be 100% clop or anything, more like a big storyline with one or two clop instances thrown in.

The premise is basically that Cadance is a young tyrant who, upon experiencing events that lead to her realizing her talent, becomes love/lust-crazed. She starts believing that every form of love is good for her, and using her powers and some newly developed spells of her's (the Want It Need It spell in particular) to have every stallion obey her wishes - whatever they may be. And any stallion that spurns her affection and tries to break free, she makes them suffer the consequences, such as torturing them and burning them with "Love's Fire" (in other words, burning them at the stake) As her love-crazed desires grow, she becomes especially infatuated and lustful towards Shining Armor, and is determined to make him submit to her lustful desires.
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>> No. 120932
I dunno, it seems like a pretty tenuous premise to me. How plausible is it that Cadance has a history of burning ponies at the sake? You mean people would just forget about this and let her be a princess anyway? Why would Shining Armor still be with her after these events? Why would anyone trust her anymore?

Nothing really adds up to the canon character. The premise that she'd abuse her love spells as a child is reasonable, but the degree to which you want to escalate it is ridiculous. Not to mention, she'd have to be younger than a teenager given that she's a friendly teenager in Twilight's memories, so going all cloppy is, to say the least, weird (unless you're going to try and lampshade it with Twilight having been abused by Cadance too, so she repressed the abuse and replaced it with what she wishes Cadance was like... I don't think you want that, though).

It's probably been done enough before, but I always figured a decent premise for a Cadance story is "good intentions gone awry". Her attempts at solving people's problems with the power of love always end up making things worse, to the point where she starts questioning what her powers truly are, etc. The results are similar to your idea, but the conflict doesn't come from any malicious intent on Cadance's part.

Also, >>119870.
>> No. 120936
>>120932

Well, I plan for it on being an Alternate Universe kind of thing - the Crystal Kingdom she's from is kind of messed up in that universe. I should have mentioned the AU aspect before, sorry.

And surprisingly, I've only seen a few fics of "good intentions gone awry" concerning her, but you'd think that there'd be a ton of fics concerning that...
>> No. 120939
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>Clopfic
>Story idea not in the Story Forge
>OOC as fuck
We don't serve your kind here, sonny boy.
Here, a single suggestion that would make the story a thousand times better: Use Chrysalis before she's Chrysalis. Being turned into a changling is the punishment for her soulless manipulation.
>> No. 120941
>>120939

So basically have Chrysalis be turned into a changeling for her crimes? That could be interesting...

As for "OOC" - it's an Alternate Universe thing, "Adventures of a Teenage Foalsitter" was similar, and that was alternate universe. Same sort of premise and no one had a problem with it.

That's what I get for not mentioning it was AU. I forget that detail and... yesh...

And FYI, I am a pegasister.
>> No. 120943
>>120941
I know it's AU; I read the comments. AU doesn't just give you an excuse to just bastardize the established characters' personalities, though.
>> No. 120946
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First off, I'd recommend checking out the Story Forge for things like this.

http://www.ponychan.net/chan/fic/res/119870.html <- The thread in question.

Second, clopfiction is not allowed on Ponychan. While there's nothing wrong with discussing it, I would caution against linking your fic in the future if it will contain clop.

I would also point out that you could easily write a story like this without needing clop in it, but that's just my own two cents.
>> No. 120948
>>120946

I don't plan on linking it here.

Questiion though: are gorefics allowed? Because I have one fic that's a gorefic.

(don't worry, I have others in the works that are neither of those mature categories.

And as fr the clop aspects, I don't intend for it to be exceedingly graphic.

Having Chrysalis be involved is an interesting idea, though in that AU I could have Cadance have something happen to her that caused her to become like that... something kindof like Luna turning into Nightmare Moon, but different.
>> No. 120950
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>>120948

Hm. Good question. From our rules page:

Gory content
What's Not Okay
visible organs
copious amounts of blood
overly suggestive or implied gore
torture/abuse
mutilation, even if self inflicted
murder/suicide

What's Okay
some blood
general creepy
battle wounds [that don't get too graphic]
accidents


This is in regards to images, but I feel it would also apply to fanfiction. If you consider something gory enough to be called a gorefic, odds are it'd fall under the "What's Not Okay" section, so we wouldn't allow it.

Of course, reading the fic is always a better way to get a feel for what we'll allow than anything else. If you have a violent fic you'd like to showcase, then clearing it with one of us via email first would be a good idea.

If you have any other questions, I'd be happy to answer them.
>> No. 120951
>>120950

Thank you for answering my question, I really appreciate it. :)

So Pages of Harmony is out then...
>> No. 120960
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>Incredibly dark story about Cadence going insane

What? I--you--this... DO IT, FILLY!
>> No. 120966
>>120960

>grimderp AU about Cadence being evil

Minjask pls.
>> No. 120970
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>>120966
>> No. 129137
What a wonderful story! One of those happy qukris of life. I wish so much we had a bookstore even close to that here in Central Florida, how lovely that would be.I had just discovered you shortly prior to your move and had no problems with your redirects but I am having problems re-subscribing through Google. Every time I click the follow button I get disconnected. Does anyone know another way to subscribe? If not at some point it will hopefully go through.I wish you great success with both of your recent changes!
>> No. 129138
What a wonderful story! One of those happy qukris of life. I wish so much we had a bookstore even close to that here in Central Florida, how lovely that would be.I had just discovered you shortly prior to your move and had no problems with your redirects but I am having problems re-subscribing through Google. Every time I click the follow button I get disconnected. Does anyone know another way to subscribe? If not at some point it will hopefully go through.I wish you great success with both of your recent changes!
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