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No. 128883
#Reviewer

As everyone should know by now, Equestria Daily has gone almost exclusively to short bullet-point reviews, except in cases where only a small number of items need to be corrected for posting. I enjoy giving longer reviews, but can no longer do so through Equestria Daily, so I will post them here. I will only do so for stories that in my estimation would have passed the old automoon system; others will get only the bullet-point treatment in the email.

This thread is only for the authors in question and me. They are free to ask questions or ask me to remove their reviews from the thread for any reason. For any other traffic, I will ask a mod to delete it. General questions about Equestria Daily or the pre-reading process should be posted here:
>>128414

Note that I won't give an exhaustive list of errors; I'll provide a representative list of the types of problems I find and leave it to the author to scour his story for the rest.

To avoid repeating myself, I'll post a few of the more common discussion topics up here; your review may refer you to one or more of these.

Dash and hyphen use:
Hyphens are reserved for stuttering and hyphenated words. Please use a proper dash otherwise. They can be the em dash (Alt+0151) with no spaces around it or en dash (Alt+0150) surrounded by spaces. Some usage (primarily American) employs only the em dash, while other usage (primarily British) employs an em dash for cutoffs and an en dash for asides. It doesn't matter which system an author uses, as long as he is consistent.

Comma use with conjunctions:
There may be other grammatical reasons to place commas, but in the simplest forms, commas accompany conjunctions to separate clauses, not to separate two items of a compound subject, verb, or object. The most common simple sentence forms are:

He performed this action and that action.
He and she performed this action.
He and she performed this action and that action.
He performed this action, and she performed that action.

Dialogue punctuation/capitalization:
When transitioning from a quote into a speech tag, you use a comma in place of a period (other end punctuation would remain unchanged), and the tag is not capitalized by default. Here are the most common forms:

"Speech," he said.
"Speech." He performed a non-speaking action.
"Beginning of quoted sentence," he said, "end of quoted sentence."

Lavender Unicorn Syndrome (LUS):
This is overuse of descriptors such as "the lavender unicorn" when referring to a character. Most times, a name or pronoun will do, and they blend in without pulling attention away from what's happening in a story. These descriptors also tell us information we already know, for the most part. If anyone doesn't know that Twilight is a lavender unicorn, it'd be odd to find him this waist-deep in the fanfiction community.

When it's okay to use them are (very sparingly!) for a bit of flavor, when they actually do impart some new information, or when there are a lot of characters present, such that names quickly get repetitive and pronouns are ambiguous.

Talking heads:
This refers to conversations that have back-and-forth dialogue with little in the way of action to separate them. The characters may as well be disembodied heads floating in a featureless void, for all I know. Half of a conversation is nonverbal cues. They carry so much of the emotional content of what's said, so give the reader the complete picture. Use the same techniques as show versus tell. Speaking of which...

Show versus tell:
It's better to get the reader to interpret a character's emotions than to tell them outright. Devices for doing that include body language, reactions, facial expressions, actions, and sometimes speech and thought. The three biggest red flags are outright naming an emotion (sad), -ly adverb form (happily), and prepositional phrase form (in excitement). The last one in particular is almost always redundant with an action it follows. You'll bore the reader just throwing cold facts at him. This is akin to an actor expecting the audience to intuit his mood from his actions and speech rather than stating it outright. The latter is more efficient, but also quite boring. Showing is not always necessary, but is a better idea when emotions run high, the story is at a critical plot point, you want the reader to feel something along with the character, or it's early in the story where you need to hook the reader.

Saidisms:
The verb "said" (and to a degree, other common ones like "answered," "replied," "stated") blend in without calling much attention to themselves. It's okay to use other speaking verbs like "shouted," "muttered," "whispered," etc. to convey a mood or tone of voice, but after a point, the reader starts noticing the choice of speaking verb more than the speech itself, which is a bad thing. The more often an author uses more exotic ones, the more the reader will remember them more than the story. A good mix of mundane speaking verbs, more unusual ones, and going without a speech tag at all will serve a story well.

Head hopping:
It is okay to change character perspectives within a story, but doing so too abruptly or too often is jarring to the reader. An author must consider whether the information he's presenting would be available to the intended perspective character. If not, then he must consider whether the information is important enough to be necessary, can be presented in such a way that the perspective character can perceive it, or if a shift of perspective is truly the best way. And if a shift is justified, then be prepared to stay in that character's perspective for some time. Staying there for only a sentence or paragraph just jerks the reader around. And when changing perspectives, do so smoothly. Imagine a camera, gradually zooming out of one character to a more objective viewpoint, then zooming in on another.

Authors can find further information and other reviewing resources here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dqgYO7OqGDcE3CZ8V6WDOBKTITjzvbrHdyXOFtm_dfI/edit
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>> No. 128884
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Cadet Leader Lemon Sweet exclaimed, clapping her hooves together excitedly//
We'll see if I have to end up giving you the full show-vs-tell speech, but here, the word "excitedly" is undoing the nice image you had going. The choice of speaking verb and the action of clapping her hooves already gives me a mental picture of excitement (the clapping could also be an attention-getting thing, I suppose—you could add in a facial expression to be clearer if you wanted), so bluntly telling me that's what it is just obviates it all, and turns it into a cold fact. You don't always have to show, but right here at the beginning is the place to grab the reader's interest, and getting him into the characters' mindsets and creating a vivid picture are essential here.

>lets give them a real send off//
let's, send-off

>The little crowd of local fillies burst into applause//
They just did that three sentences ago, and with much the same phrasing.

>one of them - a little periwinkle unicorn named Dinky Doo piped up//
First, use a proper dash instead of a hyphen. Either an em dash with no spaces around it (Alt+0151 = —) or an en dash with spaces around it (primarily British usage, Alt+0150 = –). Second, you don't complete the aside, as the rest of the sentence isn't detached like the description of Dinky. You should place another dash after her name. However, you could make do with commas instead, as the phrase is a legitimate appositive for "one of them."

>to which the three older fillies in question blushed and rubbed at the back of their heads//
Bad choice of preposition here. I think you meant "at." Let me rearrange the phrase to illustrate:
Yours: "The three older fillies in question blushed to this."
Mine: "The three older fillies in question blushed at this."

>Tag-a-long//
You call her "Tag Along" in the synopsis, and the official name of the cookie is "Tagalong." I can understand that you might take some liberties with that official name, but be consistent.

>It doesn’t seem like its been that long, does it?
Its/it's confusion.

>She’d been mimicking a certain posh pony’s accent for years in secret, and as she grew older and into her grown up voice//
Grown-up. Two things here. It's obviously tough to convey such an accent, and it would go a long way toward doing so if you made more careful word choice for her. That would also eliminate the need to have the narrator fill me in on this. It would stand on its own more with less explanation, and would also help establish different voices for your three characters.

>That brought on a wince at the memory.//
You've done this a couple of times now. Using demonstratives (this, that, these, those) on their own is weak, as they have vague antecedents that are often large chunks of narration. Try to find an appropriate noun to place after it, like: "That memory brought on a wince."

>Maple Syrup//
Why is "Syrup" capitalized? Unless it's someone's name, in which case the sentence takes on a whole new disturbing meaning.

>Do-si-do//
This matches the official cookie name, but you spelled it "Do-si-Do" in the synopsis. Again, be consistent.

>She stuck her tongue out and the three friends giggled in unison.//
Watch when and when not to use a comma with a conjunction. You usually don't when you simply have a compound structure of two subjects, verbs, or objects, but you do when you have two clauses, each with its own separate subject and verb, which is the case here.

>Although they had come close before - they had never quite gotten enough to outsell one of the teams from the bigger cities.//
Inappropriate dash use. This is just a dependent clause leading into a main clause. Use a comma.

>Manehatten//
They have now updated the canon map to the more realistic spelling of "Manehattan."

>and even freakin’ Appleloosa!//
You haven't established a narrative voice that should be doing this. It's been pretty objective and jumping around to each character, but here it takes on a very personal aspect. It's inconsistent, and it's unclear whose emotions this is supposed to express.

>Thin Mint flung a hoof across her eyes and made a dramatic sob.//
You just used "dramatically" a couple sentences ago (which was a telly use, by the way), so watch the word repetition.

>would-have-been record breaking//
As you've used it, this whole phrase should be hyphenated.

>Do-si-do had suspected foul play as rumor had it//
Minor point, but note that using no comma with an "as" clause tends to create the feel of "at the same time that," while including one tends to create a feel of "because."

>Diamond Tiara had been on that team, and had used her father’s chain of stores to sell the cookies//
See prior note about comma use with conjunctions. You don't need this one.

>rubbing at her horn a little in frustration//
Yeah, you'll get the show-versus-tell speech.

>Look I want that badge as much as you do//
Missing comma for the invective.

>Tag-a-long growled something unintelligible//
Odd narrative choice again. Since your narrator seems to know everyone's thoughts, why not this? It's only unintelligible to one or two of the characters, after all. Tagalong knows what she said.

>Dosi//
Same issue. Having the narrator use a nickname for her while not in a clear perspective and still taking on aspects of being omniscient is jarring.

>sales-drive//
This isn't a hyphenated term.

>Hold the bucking phone!//
Use of "bucking" in this way is incredibly cliched.

>That’s right girls!//
Missing comma for direct address.

>most importantly of those changes//
Used an adverb where you need an adjective.

>Which is an oddly apt thing to say I think//
Missing comma.

>but…You really think we can pull this off?//
There's no need to capitalize after an ellipsis if what follows makes syntactic sense as a continuous sentence.

>Tag-a-long let a slow grin flow across her face, her eyes sparkling intensely.//
See, here's a spot where you do a good job of showing. Give me the mental picture, and let her actions and appearance speak for themselves.

>Tag Along//
And another inconsistent spelling.

>yanno//
I've never seen this spelling. I think "y'know" would be clearer.

>Her voice trailed off//
It's redundant for the narration to tell me what the punctuation already does.

>Do-Si-Do//
Inconsistent again.

>‘nother//
Several things can confuse smart quotes. One is putting an apostrophe on the beginning of a word. This one is backward. If you add one after it, then delete the first, it will look right.

>larger than life//
Hyphenate.

>forever!
Italicize ! or ? when it's on a word in italics. You got this right earlier.

>Or Imprisoned, Exiled, Executed, Banished//
I don't get why all this is capitalized.

>em’//
Apostrophe on the wrong end.

>‘em//
Another backward apostrophe.

>the way Cookie Cadet’s do//
Misused apostrophe. This is a plural, not a possessive.

>Tag reminded her, carting in the next stack of boxes//
Participial phrases commonly make for misplace modifiers. If they start a clause, they're presumed to modify the subject; elsewhere, they're presumed to modify the nearest prior noun or pronoun object. Sometimes, they can modify other things, if the reader applies a little logic, but unless you keep this issue in mid, you will eventually run into misdirection or ambiguity. Here, I can't tell which one is carting in the next stack of boxes. By virtue of closeness in the sentence, it refers to "her" (Thin Mint), but I bet you meant it to be Tagalong.

>” That got a nod from Pinkie//
Extraneous space.

>Tag-a-long enthused//
That is in no way, shape, or form a speaking verb.

>she winked cheekily at Tag//
Exact action she just did two paragraphs ago.

>Tag Along burbled//
Seriously?

>Thin Mint said with understandable awe//
Understandable to whom? The narrator's not speaking in a particular character's voice.

>delicious smelling//
Hyphenate.

>“Okay.” Tag Along said with her nose buried in a thick scroll.//
Dialogue punctuation.

>“Laser Pointers?
Missing your closing quotation marks.

I'll say here that it's a bit annoying to read through 28 paragraphs of dialogue with only three actions interspersed. Talking heads is somewhat justified in this type of scene, but you carry it to an extreme.

>Of course, that didn’t mean they could stop trying to sell cookies - every box might count. Of course//
Repetitive, starting consecutive sentences with the same thing, where you're not playing it for some kind of effect.

>thin Mint//
Capitalization.

>Spike the Dragon//
Just "Spike" will do.

>And so it went//
Very awkward change of tone here. You'd been taking us through the scene with a combination of narration and dialogue, but here, you switch to summarizing everything through the narration. Not sure why you chose to do that, but it's odd and not particularly effective.

>Ditzy Do//
Spelling. And since Ditzy and Derpy are apparently different canon ponies, are you sure you don't want to go with Derpy?

>I swear half the town is trying to figure out if you’re trying//
Missing comma and repetitive wording.

>Tag felt some of the tension drain out of her. This was going to give her a massive tension headache//
More word repetition.

>“Ah, well… You know us. We’re not really party girls.” Do-si-do commented a little lamely//
Dialogue punctuation.

>They especially loved parties that involved dancing and doing things their parent’s would not necessarily approve of.//
Misused apostrophe.

>The slightly sexy sounding voice//
I have no idea where you're going with this...

>Sup//
’Sup

>in comical relief//
Please refrain from telling the reader how he is supposed to feel about something. If you have to say something is funny, chances are that it isn't.

>one of the biggest party night//
Number disagreement.

>The sleek black bodystocking’s she’d been expecting//
Misused apostrophe.

>44th //
Spell out numbers this short.

>“The Son of Dr. Negative”//
Book titles are underlined or (preferably) in italics.

>So instead of drowning in her own sorrows//
Actually, I wish you had given me a little about that. It'd add more realism, since that's certainly something that'd be on her mind, it'd make me more emotionally invested in the characters, and it would provide more impetus for why they're involved in this activity.

>masculine//
You're rather overusing this word here.

>penetrated the crate walls//
More word repetition.

>gimmie//
gimme

>Sun Raising ceremony//
You didn't capitalize this in the previous paragraph.

>Sugarcube corner//
Capitalization

>familiar looking unicorn browsing over several large and ancient looking//
More repetitive phrasing.

>Grabbing both of her friends by the collars of their ninja-bunny suits, she hauled them quickly down a side path//
Note that participles imply concurrent action, so you have her grabbing them at the same time she hauls them down the hallway. Surely these actions are in sequence, not at the same time.

>“Hah! Got it,” Tag grinned at her fellow fillies.//
How do you grin a sentence?

>Thin Mint - being the pegasi of the group//
Unless she's more than one pony, you need "pegasus."

>heavy looking water balloons//
They prepared this equipment together. More than thinking they looked heavy, she'd know whether they were heavy.

>with quite the comical effect//
Please let your comedy speak for itself.

>“Minty! Get the windows open! Dosi! We need the chow!”//
Given that she valued the anonymity their outfits were providing, why is she shouting out their names?

>and similar giggles were summoned up from her friends//
Odd phrasing and unnecessary passive voice.

>if they had been any of the guests foals//
Missing apostrophe.

>book cases//
bookcases

>giving it the impression of having a cheerful fire in it//
Set off the participle with a comma.

>Thin Mint ,and//
Spacing error.

>pegasi fashion//
Noun adjuncts are singular.

>At least they were still technically not adults, which meant the worst they’d get was some kind of punishment-fits-the-crime.//
Wouldn't that be the goal, regardless of age?

>“Hey girls,” a quiet and slightly amused voice startled her out of her thoughts, and sure enough, there was Twilight Sparkle sitting with a slightly amused smile on her face. //
Missing a speaking action, and repetitive phrasing.

>S’okay//
’S okay

>Tag muttered a little, and Pinkie perked up a little bit at the reassurance - not much, but a little.//
Repetitive.

>The Look//
I have no idea what this is. You've never defined it.

>Tag felt her hooves root to the floor for a brief moment, until she felt//
More repetition.

See the notes on comma use with conjunctions, dash and hyphen use, show versus tell, talking heads, and saidisms at the top of this thread. It may help to read the head hopping note, too, though that's not exactly the problem you have.

You have a very inconsistent narrative voice that can't decide whether it's omniscient or following one of the characters. Really, any arrangement can be made to work, but it has to achieve some purpose. I just felt jostled back and forth between being in an omniscient viewpoint, spending a little time with two of the characters, then settling in with the third the longer the story went on.

It's also a little curious how young and somewhat immature these girls sound, and how close an association they seem to have with the Cutie Mark Crusaders, given that you've made them just a year short of college age. There's a bit of a disconnect in how old they act and how old they actually are. Perhaps it would work better if you made them younger and either abandoned the "we're going to be splitting up soon" angle or came up with another reason for it. Conversely, you could mature them to make them act more age-appropriate.

In addition to the spots I marked, here are some other troubling word counts:

little - 34
look - 32
start/began - 20 I advise authors to avoid these, except where the beginning is noteworthy because it's abrupt or the action doesn't finish. Otherwise, it's obvious that any given action begins.
just - 39
"to be" verbs - I only looked for "is" and "was," and still got 133. You need to choose more active verbs.
as - 99 This suggests you're overusing "as" clauses.

As is another common problem, even for words that aren't used too much in the story as a whole, when you do use them, you tend to do so in clusters, which makes them stand out more.

This is a cute idea for a story, and I love the names you chose for these characters. But it's a little on the superficial side, especially considering the amount of time it spends in a subjective point of view. Though it seems odd to have the official name be Cookie Cadets when they do so much more than just the cookies.

Last edited at Mon, Oct 14th, 2013 12:28

>> No. 128889
Well, 63, gotta say I'm a tad surprised; I figured you'd go for reviews outside of the system. Might it not be a good idea to provide the title of the fic in question you're giving the list for, if only to help the author find it?
>> No. 128891
>>128889
No, I provide a link to the review in the email from EqD, so the author knows where to find it, and he's the only one who matters.
>> No. 128945
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>The poor little filly gets so down every time I have to tell her no...//
Keep in mind your medium here. This is a speech affectation. There are times when an ellipsis makes sense in a letter, but only when the writer does so deliberately because it attaches some meaning. She wouldn't just trail off because she lost her train of thought. Letters don't work that way. Things like this are why letter stories are so much harder to write than everyone thinks they are, though you're doing better than most.

>Her school year just ended//
>between working my mail route and my new gig as a waitress at the Cumulus Club//
Again, this just screams exposition dump. Who would actually write like this? Sandy presumably knows her well enough to be aware of the mail route, so why would she spell it out like this? It takes great care to make these things be believable. She'd likely just refer to the mail route as work, and then you could work in an anecdote to show what her job is.

>dead end//
Hyphenate your compound modifiers.

>I suppose that life is just one big aerial acrobatic, with each of us going through the motions. There are the ups and the downs, the twists and the turns, but never for a moment do I doubt that we're part of the same routine, and that you'll be there to catch me as I fall, as I will be for you.//
I'll be the first to say this is a subjective viewpoint, but the fact that she uses such flowery language here doesn't mesh at all with the harried mother just trying to find a moment of respite from her hyperactive daughter. It takes time to craft language like this, so when does she find a spare moment to do so? And if it's because she's leaving Scootaloo unsupervised while she does so, even the noise would grate on her. In short, she sounds way too composed for the image you're trying to create of her.

>I've had broken limbs and muscle cramps, but this is something out of a nightmare, Sandy.//
You're using an awful lot of direct address in these letters. It's obvious to whom she's writing. You don't need to keep saying so. Direct address should be held for occasional emphasis. This is yet another speech affectation that shouldn't carry over to letters.

>Sandy, I have cancer.//
Given that her complaints have been largely about her lifestyle and very little about physical discomfort, this just comes out of left field. It'd take time for that blood test to come back, and in the meantime, she never wrote Sandy about her concerns?

>The doctor even told me that if I make it to remission, there is a good chance that the cancer will come back//
Sounds like awful bedside manner to me. Being truthful is one thing, but bleak?

>I know that survival rates for my cancer are pretty high//
So what happened to the "even if you go into remission, the cancer will probably return"?

>I haven't been able to get a proper diagnosis from an oncologist//
She's starting a treatment program without a proper diagnosis?

I can't tell you not to put links in your story, but it's generally a bad idea to encourage people to click away from your story.

>my first of many surgeries//
You really are rushing through this. It's unusual to go to surgery until after a course of chemotherapy and/or radiation treatment. You made an oblique reference to such, but not in a way that she was going through it herself, or how it made her feel. Surely that would have been noteworthy enough to write about.

>mine and my daughter's future//
my

>I can't even think straight. My hooves are shaking, despite the medicine they gave me to calm me before anesthesia.//
Again, this is awfully technical for a letter, and so formal as to undercut any sense of fear that the text is trying to assure me is there. She can't think straight, and yet she can wax poetic and say things like "as if I were floating in some surreal dream world where the universe and karma take turns playing cruel jokes on me." I don't buy it.

>It's so cold in this hospital//
It's also unhealthy for her to be so. The staff don't want her to be cold. They'd adjust the thermostat, bring in extra blankets, something.

>placing some port beneath my skin//
Now this makes sense. But why hasn't she mentioned it until now? This is the third time she's brought up surgery, and it wouldn't have been a surprise.

>self esteem//
Hyphenate.

>it doesn't take more than an hour or so for them to walk or fly right out the door they came in//
So why did Dash have to stay in the hospital?

>We are, all of us, bound to magic. As much as I'm sure you're pained to admit it, we ponies are as magical as the dragons themselves. Furthermore, each pony has a unique magic to themselves. These mana conduits, as the doctor calls them, run through our bodies like invisible blood vessels, holding our spirits to our bodies. And when another pony's mana conduits cross our own, via something like using magic to stitch a broken bone... Well, the consequences are as terrifying as you'll likely believe.//
Headcanon infodump is a bad thing when trying to keep up an emotional moment. This is all pretty irrelevant.

>which in this unfortunate case, means the leukemia would grow out of control and kill me within minutes//
That depends, doesn't it? Presumably the doctors can control what grows and what doesn't. Forcing skin cells to reproduce so that they cover a wound without making the blood cells within the skin's capillaries also reproduce, for instance. So why couldn't a doctor enhance the body's immune response, which is generally overpowered by serious cancer, while simultaneously not enhancing the growth of the cancer itself?

>And I'm almost certain my mane is falling out.//
Seems like the kind of thing she'd know pretty definitively.

>The nurses took Scootaloo, Sandy. My baby girl isn't here. She was crying too much, so they took her away, and now I'm crying too.//
Where did they take her, and why would they prevent her from visiting at all? This falls under the heading of "piling on." You don't need to add tragedy for the sake of tragedy. The least amount of tragedy needed to make the story work is generally the best.

>shorn//
Well, no, they fell out.

>run by a delightful young mare who runs//
Watch the word repetition.

>custom made//
Hyphenate.

>I must apologize for the... urgency, I suppose... in my last letter.//
Again, this is something you'd do with speech, not with writing.

>one to many ciders//
to/too confusion

>long term//
>short term//
Hyphenate.

>It's been two weeks to the day that I was first diagnosed with leukemia//
She's gone bald in less than two weeks? That would be very unusual.

>I don't know why, it's something I ought to be used to by now.//
Comma splice. You've tacked together two complete sentences.

>being their for your loved ones//
there/their confusion

Your mechanics were quite good, so I don't have too many complaints there. As such, I was able to go into more depth with my in-line comments and don't really need to say much more here. My main issues are that the letters are often inconsistent in tone with Firefly's state of mind, and that there are a number of things that are incompatible with a letter-format story (a common error in this type of story).

Watch your "to be" verbs, though. I only searched for the two simplest ones—is and was—and still found 120. It makes your story much more interesting to choose more active verbs. Using "to be" verbs is pretty inevitable, but I bet you could cut that down significantly.

Now, to the tumblr you link. Is that your tumblr? If not, have you gotten permission from the owner to use his story? It's also odd that you rely on the tumblr itself to tell a bit of the story, namely that Sandy was there when Firefly died. And as far in debt as Firefly was, it really rang hollow that Sandy couldn't somehow raise train fare for what is a really short trip (remember, in "The Best Night Ever," a coach trip at a walking pace from Canterlot to Ponyville took just a few hours). I was certain you'd somehow play it that Sandy was intentionally avoiding Firefly.

Next, emotions work best in contrast. You start off with a miserable mother, and everything just goes down from there. You have but a few one-sentence light moments anywhere in the story. Sad is sad when it's compared to happy. It'd serve your story much better if you worked in some upbeat moments.

Lastly, it's a bit weak on the conflict. Like I said, I thought you were building toward some confrontation between Sandy and Firefly. As it is, we just have this omnipresent tragedy, but we don't really see anything change as a result of it. There's no resolution of interpersonal conflict, no moment of character growth. A story can survive without such, but rare is the story that can do it well. You're relying on the sadness only, and that's a very tricky balancing act to achieve.
>> No. 129001
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>Hearths Warming Eve//
Hearth's

>Can Rarity turn an old Dress Me Daisy doll into the perfect present before morning?//
As these things go, this isn't too bad, but it's considered bad practice to use rhetorical questions in your synopsis.

Story:
>Rarity sighed with relief//
I've seen that you submitted several stories within a short time, so while it's reasonable that you wouldn't have been able to incorporate the feedback from the earliest ones into the later ones, I believe you would have been given the "show, don't tell" speech by now. In case you haven't, or it didn't sink in, please refer to the relevant section at the top of this thread. (If you got a review from Amacita on one of your stories, this is the same discussion that he uses.)

>her magically levitating sewing needle//
"Magically" is redundant here. There's no other means by which it would levitate, so it's unnecessary to say so.

>it was obviously intended//
Be careful when you say something is obvious. Obvious to whom? The narrator hasn't adopted any particular character's perspective yet, and in being thusly objective, he shouldn't be expressing his own opinions. It's essentially telling the reader it should be obvious to him, and readers generally don't like being told what they should think. The other issue: Your first paragraph has four sentences and four "to be" verbs. These are inherently boring verbs. While it's not necessary or even advisable to avoid them altogether, staying away from them whenever possible is a good idea. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what merely is. And active verbs will serve you well at the beginning, where you're trying to grab the reader. Take your "In front of her was a small dress form" versus "In front of her sat a small dress form." It's easy to fix in many cases, ad it makes a big but subtle difference.

>Opal purred and clawed at the carpet, curling herself up for a nap.//
Two issues here. First, the "curling..." phrase is a misplaced modifier, and participles are especially common for those. Descriptors like to latch onto the nearest object, so it sounds like the carpet is curling her up for a nap. Next, the use of the participial phrase at all. Well over half your sentences so far either have a participial phrase or an absolute phrase (which use participle verb forms). Such structural repetition can get your story in a rut. I'm very aware that I'm reading so many of them, and you don't want the writing itself to distract the reader from the story.

>Rarity heard a knock on her door and slowly trotted over//
This made me look, since you just used the word "slowly" not long ago. It turns out you only use it 7 times in the story, which isn't bad at all, but when you do use it, you tend to do so in clusters, so it still creates a repetitive feel.

>size and intensity of the knocking//
What exactly would the size of knocking be?

>into my nice clean floor//
"Onto" sounds better, imo.

>Orphan Foals Shelter//
Wouldn't that be Orphaned? And maybe Foals'?

>Pinkie left some holiday cookies on the table, feel free to help yourself.//
Comma splice. You've got two complete sentences tacked together with one.

>said Sweetie Belle, skulking over to the kitchen table and putting on her most theatrical frown//
Here's another issue with your narrative voice. You'd eventually settled into Rarity as your perspective character, but here, you pop into Sweetie Belle's for a single sentence. Only she would know it was her most theatrical smile, and not just a theatrical smile. You have to be careful who your perspective character is and which information she would actually have access to.

>Pinkie could make anyone smile//
"Anypony," perhaps?

>leaving only one thing unfinished - the packing and wrapping of the dress she’d made for Sweetie Belle.//
Please use a proper dash, but in this instance, a colon would be more appropriate, since you're clarifying or defining the "one thing." Though, I'd also argue that the passive voice is unnecessary here. Just "packing and wrapping the dress she’d made for Sweetie Belle" would do. For other dashes throughout the story, see the hyphen/dash use section at the top of this thread.

>ready to be placed under the tree//
Again, unnecessary passive voice. In addition to diverting the action, passive voice also leads to overuse of "to be" verbs. You could just say "ready to go under the tree," and it'd be much more active without losing any meaning.

>Apparently the little filly had decided to try to open some of the cabinets that were out of her reach by piling the pots and pans on top of one another.//
How could she tell this after they'd fallen? It's a bit of a leap. Lead me through her conclusion.

>ARE//
Italics are preferred over all caps for emphasis.

>And she knew how much her father loved them.//
By now, I've noticed how often you tell us what Rarity "knew." It's also starting to get repetitive, but it's also the type of information to avoid. Even if you just say "And her father certainly loved them," you've taken that bit out without changing anything.

>already forgetting the mess she made//
It's a completed action, so use a past participle. "she'd made"

>“That was baking, not cooking!”//
Well, she also tried to make juice, garnish some eggs, etc. without success.

>Rarity just pushed Sweetie Belle into the snow//
Suggest rephrasing, as this first comes across like a bully action, as if Rarity is shoving her to the ground.

>some day//
As phrased, you can use this as a single word.

>Thanks Mom//
Missing comma for direct address.

>doing her best to feign enthusiasm//
This is a tougher type of telling to detect, as you don't directly name any emotions, but you're still relying on me to create the scene for you. I don't know what this looks like—you don't create a visual.

>Rarity’s mild disappointment slowly shifted to mild panic//
And now you are directly naming emotions.

>Lil’//
Li'l

>but it was clear that she was near to tears//
How so? Paint the picture for me. It gets me much more connected to the characters to figure it out from the evidence than to have you tell me.

>With that//
Phrases like this and "at this point" that refer directly to the narration are a bad idea.

>as she thought aloud to herself//
A lot of this is unnecessary. Of course it's aloud, since you haven't punctuated it as a thought, and of course it's to herself, since nobody else is present.

A lot of these things Rarity says to herself are a bit formal, and she's talking to herself rather a lot. They may work better as indirect thoughts in the narration.

>These must be my old clothes//
Wait, so they give away Sweetie Belle's clothes, but not Rarity's?

>as she extracted the toy from underneath the crushed remains of a toy make-up kit//
Repetition of "toy."

>1/6th//
Spell out these numbers.

>and though the designs were a bit tight in a few places//
Needs a comma to set off the dependent clause.

>one last look. There was one last thing//
Phrase repetition.

>How...How did you get in here Sweetie?//
Another missing comma for direct address, and please leave a space after the ellipsis.

>and when you didn’t come down for breakfast//
Another missing comma for the dependent clause.

>Sweetie was wearing the Hearth’s Warming Eve dress Rarity had made//
So, not only did she pick the lock without Rarity hearing, she put on the dress, found the doll and clothes, and kept her enthusiasm quiet enough not to wake Rarity, and then wakes her up? It doesn't seem to add up.

>Sweetie was positively brimming with happiness//
Show it. It's especially important, here at an emotional climax of the story.

>Rarity smiled, and put a hoof around her excited sister.//
See the section at the top of this thread about comma use with conjunctions.

>It’s very simple, you just take an existing pattern and divide all the measurements by six.//
Comma splice.

>following her sister with a mixture of awe and joy in her eyes//
More telling you'll want to fix.

>Hearths Warming//
Misspelled again.

I rather like this story. It's sweet and does a nice job of getting at that sisterly relationship. That said, there are obviously a few problems here. Most are with the writing style; I didn't find any glaring character or plot issues. The only other plot-related thing I'd point out is that close-knit families like this typically coordinate their gift-giving. On the one hand, Rarity should have known that her mom had gotten Sweetie Belle only clothes, and on the other, her mother should have known not to do that. She's already raised one filly, and apparently gave her a number of toys, so this isn't alien to her, even for someone like Rarity who probably preferred clothes. She's not suddenly going to be clueless on what to get her younger daughter. That might take a bit of thought to explain.

Now to the style issues. I marked a couple of odd point-of-view shifts and commented once about how you need to think about what your focus character would know. Shifts in perspective can be done, but only when necessary, and they need to be handled smoothly. For this story, I don't think you ever need to leave Rarity's head. You might want to refer to the head-hopping section at the top of this thread.

Next, you rely heavily on participles. Read back through and see how many sentences go "She performed this action, performing this other action." It gets your writing into a very clunky feel when the sentences have the same structure and rhythm over and over again. You need to vary this more.

I also commented that you seemed to be telling me what characters "knew" a lot. There are actually only 12 of these in the story, but they're all clustered up front, and it's weak to do this too often. Better to make a direct comment to the direct knowledge than use a "to know" or related verb.

Last one's the biggie: "to be" verbs.

was: 69
were: 21
be: 17
been: 11
is: 6
wasn't: 4
isn't: 2

And this is without checking more indeterminate ones like "there's" or "she's," though I don't recall seeing too many of those. The point is that these are weak verbs, and you're using a ton of them. They indicate overuse of telling (somewhat of an issue here), passive voice (a minor issue, but still present), or a need to choose more active verbs (we have a winner).

Now, look at another family of words: start/begin and their other forms. I counted 10, which doesn't sound like much, but most of them are within a few paragraphs of each other. It's also a fairly redundant verb—any given action would obviously begin. It's only worth noting when that beginning is abrupt, or the action never finishes.

Last edited at Sat, Nov 2nd, 2013 16:58

>> No. 129023
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>a bunch of scarves which were hurriedly tossed on top//
This is a nonrestrictive clause; use "that," not "which."

>“We must hurry.”//
This line feels very detached. I get no sense of how she means it. She's forcing a grin, but she's not being insincere, so I can't realy tell what her state of mind is here.

>the basket was scooped up//
There's not really a reason to use passive voice here. If you wanted to draw attention to the basket, sure, but it doesn't hold any importance.

>The basket was magically hefted//
More unnecessary passive voice, and nearly the same phrasing as last time.

>where the sun was shining and uncomfortably hot on Opal’s fluffy pelt//
Precisely because of the fluffy pelt, it'd take a substantial delay before she felt the increased warmth.

>The basket was magically hefted into the air and towards the door they went//
Missing a comma to set off the dependent clause.

>easy going//
One word.

>but she’d learn to tolerate Rarity and her neurotic ways. But this//
I think you meant that to be "learned." And having the two "but" clauses in a row creates the feel of a double negative. You're excepting an exception.

>Often, Opal would awake in the dead of night to mutters and the shambling of hooves, and there would be Rarity, flustered, mane a mess as she trotted frantically about the boutique, her sewing glasses perched crooked on her muzzle as she dug through shelves of fabric.//
Here's a sentence that rambles on so long (to no purpose) that it loses focus. If each of these topics is important, then let them each get their own focus by chopping this up a bit. As it is, you're also repeating structures, which gives it a choppy feel. We have main clause, dependent clause, participial phrase, absolute phrase, dependent "as" clause, absolute phrase, dependent "as" clause.

>persisted on//
in

>It was only with great resilience did Opal finally stop pawing the bow from her hair.//
Syntax is off. Typical phrasing would be: "It was only with great resilience that Opal finally stopped..." I also question the word choice "resilience." It means to bounce back from a hardship. You seem to be aiming for something more like self-control.

>I’m here to examine your um... wears//
Unless you're going for a pun (and then having nobody react to it to complete the joke, for some reason), it's "wares."

>They were at a street vender//
"Vendor" is the preferred spelling. And that's a person. It makes more sense to say they're at a vendor's.

>draped with rolls of fabric and other decorations//
Why so vague? "Other decorations"? You're entirely relying on me to paint that picture. That's your job. And certainly Opal would be able to elaborate more on the fabric, given where she lives. She'd surely take notice of the colors, patterns, etc.

>Opal had to mewl silently to herself//
How does one do something silently that is, by definition, a noise?

>“Ah, Rarity!” the mousy mare exclaimed, “how nice to see you again!”//
You've punctuated/capitalized this as if the quote were a single, continuous sentence, yet you provided end punctuation to the first part. You can't have it both ways.

>eyes scanning the wears//
Yeah, you're spelling that wrong.

>She turned her head to the vendor//
Now you are spelling it this way. Make up your mind.

>on it’s cage and cocked it’s feathery head//
Its/it's confusion.

>The vendor deadpanned. “Zang?”//
Comma, not a period.

>Yes, Zang//
Inconsistent capitalization. And "zing" is a real word. Why are you inventing this one?

>Pizzaz, poof, fizzle//
Pizzazz. And I think you may have been going for "sizzle." "Fizzle" means something entirely different.

>The vendor maintained her bored and slightly irritated expression.//
You're also robbing me of the visual when you directly inform me of a character's emotions. What does this look like? This is a classic show-versus-tell problem. You might want to read that section at the top of this thread.

>Whenever Rarity was unhappy//
Missing comma after the dependent clause. You should read the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>but in the dead of night? In the dark?//
Somehow, I doubt this is the first time she's done this. She even refers to doing such in canon.

>nighttime Boutique//
I don't get the word choice "nighttime" here. Sure, it's night, but as a modifier? It makes it sound like an after-hours business.

>of still mare dressed in wedding attire//
Missing a word.

>stitching a short line in the flesh//
>stitched into her hoof//
Repetitive phrasing. In fact, it feels like there's a lot of repetitive description of this incident.

>Opal mewled quietly//
More repetition. She just "said quietly" a few lines back.

>Rarity fell asleep with the sewing machine on. Opal hissed quietly as she buried her head in her basket, trying to block out the sound.//
I don't see how this warrants being a scene.

>Opal lay in in the windowsill//
Repeated word.

>Apple Bloom said in compromise//
The "in compromise" is useless filler, and as the narrator is in Opal's perspective, and you've already said she doesn't understand what they say, how could she interpret it as compromise, especially that quickly?

>Sweetie Belle made a face//
What kind? Don't be so vague.

>The two other fillies both snickered and shamelessly tried to hide their laughter.//
How can they laugh and try to hide their laughing? It's redundant at least and contradictory at worst. And what's shameless about it?

>Sweetie Belle seemed rather eager to get away from the topic.//
How so? And how does Opal even know what the topic is? It also looks like you have a different indentation here.

>prefered //
Preferred.

>due to the occasion, though, mainly due to//
More repetition.

>Opal prowled for hours, doing cat-like things around town//
This really begs for more explanation, given that she's essentially the narrator and would find these activities enjoyable. There's no reason for her to gloss over them.

>the door that lead out//
led

>crumpled up and half-finished sketches. The wastebasket beside it had completely overflown and was spilling its contents of crumpled//
Repetition. And a missing hyphen.

>From the closet door, came//
Unneeded comma, since it leads into the verb.

>the two-inch opening the led off into darkness//
Typo.

>flailing her hind legs in the as she squirmed//
Another typo. Really, any word processor will catch many of these things. Mind the squiggly lines, please.

>a squinted look//
Just a squint will do.

>who’s eyebrows//
whose

>dress-up//
You din't hyphenate this earlier. Be consistent.

>Scootaloo’s left eyebrow was completely out of sight, the right one scrunched down right over her eye.”//
Extraneous quotation mark.

>Thank the can opener//
That right there is damn funny.

>A pillow that also didn’t appear to be working.//
She's the one using it. "Appear" shouldn't come into it. She'd know explicitly whether it was working.

>her eyes bore down upon to wear she was sewing//
That doesn't parse. I can't figure out exactly what you're trying to say. I think you mixed up "wear" with "where," but even that doesn't entirely fix it.

>catfood//
cat food

>Ponies never did smell good, but fear always smelled the worse.//
That "the" is extraneous.

>One stuck, the others bounced off and showered to the floor in a deafening clatter.//
Comma splice.

>Blue magic//
You described it as purple way back in the first scene.

>the fowl dress//
Foul. Unless you're making an awful "Scootaloo is a chicken" joke, in which case you're completely undercutting the story's tone.

>The real confusion set in she she//
I think you can see the problem.

There is a lot of repetition in this story. A few of the descriptions felt like they rehashed a small number of points multiple times, and there were many words and phrases that appeared two or three times within a couple of paragraphs. A few of the biggest offenders:

Various forms of "to be": is, 10; was, 124; be, 20; been, 18; wasn't, 13; isn't, 2. And those are just the easier ones to spot. This is a very boring verb. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what is. Take "his hair was red" versus "a shock of red hair sat atop his head." Even a touch of action makes it come alive. Overuse of these verbs can indicate too much passive voice, telly language, and a need to choose more active verbs, all of which I saw here.

You employ an awful lot of "as" clauses to the point that I became keenly aware of each additional one I saw. Not only does this create a repetitive, plodding feel, but it draws attention away from the story and onto the writing itself. It can also throw off the chronology, since these "as" clauses imply concurrent action which you may not have intended. You use "as" 48 times in the story; while not all were used in that sense, the majority were, and when you did use them, you tended to do so in clusters; there are quite a lot early on, which makes them stand out even more.

There was also a lot of telly language and some Lavender Unicorn Syndrome. There are explanations of those at the top of this thread as well.

Lastly, there was a severe disconnect in your narrative voice. The story is ostensibly told from Opal's perspective, but it repeatedly makes judgment calls that she is incapable of. Part of this is related to show-versus-tell. When the narrator tells me someone is making a compromise, it's implying that Opal is telling me it's a compromise. For that to work, Opal would have to understand what a compromise is, and yet you stressed on more than one occasion that she finds ponies pretty strange and inscrutable, and she doesn't understand what they say. So how does she interpret their actions that way? Showing is about giving me the evidence and letting me draw the conclusions; this is especially necessary for a narrator like this one, who is in Opal's perspective and can't make these conclusions on her own. So showing would not only make the narrative voice more believable, but is good for engaging storytelling anyway. It's important to realize what your narrative point of view is and what it's capable of, then work within those limitations. Your descriptions of what she smells and senses from Rarity were good. Her blunt conclusions about other characters' emotions and intentions weren't.

I'm also curious about how Scootaloo went missing that long without anyone coming to inquire about her, and how she wouldn't have known where Sweetie Belle went. It doesn't seem like Sweetie Belle would go off without telling her.

As a concept, this story wasn't bad, and the unusual choice of an animal's perspective could make for a unique tale. And I have to admit to being a sucker for certain types of open-ended conclusions.

Edit: I asked another pre-reader for a second opinion as to whether the gore was too much. I thought it was probably fine, and he agreed, but he objected to using dialogue at all in a story told from a non-sentient animal's perspective. While I wouldn't go that far, I've already commented on how it's odd that Opal reacts to and often understands what the ponies do and say, particularly since you've explicitly said she doesn't understand their speech or actions.

Last edited at Sat, Nov 2nd, 2013 21:19

>> No. 129043
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>It was warm in the apple grove, but Applejack was cold inside.//
Alright, first sentence, and you're already beating me over the head. Slight weather-report opening here, but not too bad. However, throw me some imagery. I like the contrasting hot/cold thing, but you can achieve it with a much less blunt instrument. Especially on the cold side—you don't want to disarm any process of discovery about the characters' emotions, particularly right off the bat, where you need to grab the reader's attention. You might want to read over the show-versus-tell section at the top of this thread.

>She stood on the bank of the pond, looking out over the murky water.//
This isn't a bad one, as examples go, but you need to watch out for misplaced modifiers. Participial phrases are a common problem in this respect. Due to their proximity in the sentence, it sounds like the pond is looking out over the water. A bit of logic helps the reader sort it out on his own, but if you let too many of these slip, you will eventually run into ones that are vague or outright misleading.

>The sun was shining, and the day was a little warmer than Applejack would have liked//
I can see I'm going to have an issue with your "to be" verbs. More on this later, but note that I'm only five sentences in, and I've already counted five instances of "was."

>It felt better in the shade of the apple trees, away from the gaze of the sun.//
Watch these indirect possessions. They're often clunky and unnecessary. When they do work is where they shift focus onto the object because what owns that object is immaterial. I'd say you're justified in that respect for the first one—the shade is much more pertinent that the trees. But in the second, the sun is more important than the gaze, so rephrasing as "the sun's gaze" is more direct and concise while losing no meaning and placing the focus more judiciously.

>The only way into the grove was to follow the stream through a small gap in the trees, and it was very out of the way of the road//
That seems odd. Growing the trees so close together would restrict their ability to produce fruit and make them more difficult to harvest. Plus, a pond is a very useful asset for a farm, so making it inaccessible doesn't ring true. That last bit is awkwardly worded, too.

>one way or the either//
one way or the other

>With deft, earth-pony manipulations of her hooves//
I don't see what's more deft about earth ponies' hooves. It's fine if you want that to be a conceit for your story, but referencing a piece of headcanon obliquely like that is pretty jarring, not to mention that it's immaterial to the story.

>Even thinking the name sent a pang of regret//
Yeah, read the show-versus-tell part. It directly talks about this kind of phrasing. Some of it's okay in a story, but use it sparingly.

>Sugar Cube Corner//
As per canon, Sugarcube Corner.

>setting her mind to overdrive//
Minor point here, and feel free to ignore me, but this word choice is odd. "Overdrive" references a technology that doesn't exist in Equestria, at least as far as we've seen in canon.

>“Rarity, I think I love you!”//
Um... why doesn't this have the Romance/Shipping tag?

>like an incomprehensible river of repressed feelings//
They are repressed feelings, so it kind of robs your simile of its imagery.

>There was only confusion, and amusement.//
>Then that look changed, replaced by utter confusion in an instant.//
These would seem to be contradictory.

>and the water was slightly discolored from the runoff of the newsprint//
If it has as much current as you say it does, this wouldn't happen. No ink from any previous trip would be left by the time the next boat came along.

>Sweet Apple Acres had always passed to a daughter or granddaughter//
So what about Apple Bloom?

>Her family would be there for her, but Granny Smith would be disappointed, even if she didn’t mean to be, even if she still loved and cherished Applejack with all her heart, she would never get to see any great-grandfoals.//
Depending on how you wanted this to be structured, one of the last two commas is a splice.

>Applejack turned around.//
Repetitive phrasing with a couple sentences ago.

>Then, “Can we talk?”//
A bit too vague as to who says this.

>unphased//
unfazed

>I’ve been shot down more times than a lady would care to admit//
This might need some justification, too. Look how easily she manipulated stallions through flirting in "Putting Your Hoof Down" and "The Best Night Ever." Aside from the singular example of Blueblood, she seems to be able to get what she wants.

>How am I supposed to help you model dresses like I do sometimes//
Okay, this sounds very unlike Applejack. Not that you can't make her into that, but it's a pretty drastic change from canon that begs explanation. More on this later.

>How am I supposed to let you smile at me and flutter your eyelashes all playful like and call me ‘darling’ and not read too much into it//
You've been using commas with these extended lists of "and" or "or." Be consistent.

>marry some stallion anyway because it would be the right thing to do//
This "right thing" phrasing really cuts against a lot of the things you'd been saying, that her attraction to Rarity wouldn't be stigmatized, even by Granny Smith. Either she persnoally thinks something's wrong with it, which would be an interesting conflict to follow if you care to develop it, or this just comes across as contradictory.

>Her eyes swam in a sea of salt.//
Awkward phrasing.

>nearly-finished//
-ly adverbs are generally exempt from such hyphenation.

>after all they had been thorough//
Typo.

>Rarity nodded, patted Applejack on the shoulder, and headed for the small opening where the grove opened up to the rest of the fields.//
If this is such a secret place, how did Rarity know where it was in the first place? Not that this can't be explained—I'll touch on this in a moment.

Closing time. I liked this story. It's a nice take on this type of infatuation, one that I rarely see. Applejack's not hampered by anyone's opinion of the appropriateness of her attraction, but Rarity simply doesn't return it. It's unusual to see a take on it where everything doesn't magically work out.

That said, it has a common issue with romance stories: it drops us into the middle of things and expects us to drum up the enthusiasm for this pairing on our own without providing it in the story. How that's done really depends on the story. In some cases, it really means going back to square one and taking us through the entire relationship. In some, that's overkill, and that's probably the case here. But you have to give us something. You can't just jump into "oh, AJ's madly fallen for Rarity" and expect us to swallow it whole. Make it real. Why does AJ feel that way? What times in the past has Rarity done something to endear herself to AJ, unintentionally, of course. Let me see these. A few flashbacks that take us through the phases of this relationship would go a long way—when AJ first thought something but tried to deny it, once she had to accept it, when it became a significant source of stress. And that brings up two side points. The scene at Sugarcube Corner might do better as a flashback as well. I'm glad that you did include dialogue there and didn't gloss over it entirely as narration, but if you do decide to include other flashbacks, it might create a more consistent feel to do this bit like that as well. Also, AJ is pretty clueless about whether Rarity might return her feelings. As such good friends as they are and as much time as they supposedly spent together, AJ must have some idea. When did she try to tease that info out of Rarity, drop hints, read her reaction? It's a bit of a stretch to think she's completely in the dark here. Of course, better informed doesn't necessarily mean correct.

The only other big issue I see is your overuse of "to be" verbs. I only searched for the two most common forms, is and was, and came up with over seventy. That's far too many for this word count. It's an inherently boring verb. Readers are much more interested in what happens, not what simply is. Overuse of "to be" verbs tends to indicate three problems: too much passive voice (I didn't notice any), too much telly language (you did fine on this front, too—I only had to point out a couple of places), and a need to choose more active verbs (that's the biggie). Go back through and see what you can do about those. It's impractical to remove all of them, but I bet you can get rid of over half without much trouble. It doesn't even take much fancy language. Just "he sat there" versus "he was there" gives a more active feel to the writing.
>> No. 129048
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Quickly shaking the chill from her hooves//
Canon from "Winter Wrap Up" doesn't imply that handling snow clouds would do this.

>“Last one!” she said//
Somewhat repetitive with your first sentence.

>poofed//
It's not the best idea to use sound effects as your verb.

>and let her fall into the snowstorm beneath//
If it's gone, it's not there to let her do anything.

>Hundreds of snowflakes blew horizontally through the air//
The number is rather determinate. If she has a good feel for being able to gauge the amount, do something to indicate that; otherwise, it feels disconnected from her situation, since she'd be too distracted to count them. "Through the air" here is redundant/obvious.

>All of the ice, snow, and wind had rapidly changed the atmosphere from a mild cold to an arctic tundra.//
Two things: The description is incongruous, as you're likening the atmosphere to terrain. It's not a very apt comparison. Second, not that for snow to form, the air has to be cold already; the actual changing of water vapor to snowflakes warms the air up a little.

>Ponyville sat just a small ways//
You do see this in common usage, but technically, using "ways" as a singular is incorrect.

>Horse apples//
Typically written as one word.

>at the edge of her periphery//
Redundant. Periphery is the edge.

>What are you doing out here, Fluttershy?! Didn’t you notice the storm?!//
Okay, you're overdoing the interrobangs. They're fine for sparing use, but the more you have, the less effective they become. They make things stand out, and when everything stands out, nothing does.

>Class-4//
Write out numbers that short.

>Everyone//
everpony, perhaps?

>W-what about you?//
Consider what sounds actually gets repeated when writing a stutter. "Wh-what"

>eep
She actually said it, so lose the italics and put it in quotes.

>“This isn’t safe!”//
Refer back a few points ago to how nothing stands out if everything does. This is your 27th dialogue sentence. 23 of them end in an exclamation mark or interrobang. You've pretty much stripped the exclamation mark of commanding any attention for the rest of your story.

>Rainbow Dash wasted no time in strapping the bags around her own back, tucking the straps under her wings.//
Beware of misplaced modifiers, particularly participles. Any sort of modifier tends to latch onto the nearest possible object, so your "tucking the straps..." phrase wants to describe "back." We even have to go back through another possibility, "bags," before we get to the intended "Rainbow Dash."

>As she stepped out of her boots and pushed them to the side, a streak of water following them across the floor, she looked to the side and asked//
While grammatically sound, that absolute phrase is awkwardly placed. It took a couple of readings to sort out the syntax.

>She shook her own body much more thoroughly than Fluttershy had, but her shivering body wouldn’t forgive her so easily.//
Odd to have "body" named as a subject in one clause and an object in the other like this. Might want to rephrase.

>“Th-thanks,” Rainbow said, standing stock still and staring at nothing in particular through squinted eyes. Many little creatures looked at her from around the room, most with worried expressions.//
Your narrator's perspective is pretty nebulous here. It was pretty firmly with Dash in the first scene, but here, it's pretty distant from anyone. You've said Dash isn't staring at anything, and yet the narrator has her seeing these creatures looking back at her. So which is it?

>Her motions were almost mechanical.//
That really places the burden on me to visualize. It's the writer's job to set the scene. Give me more about how this looks.

>Fluttershy suddenly appeared in front of her//
"Suddenly" does have its place, but it's often better to convey the suddenness through the language or the lack of segue to the "sudden" action rather than actually using this word.

>T-tank//
Proper noun. You have to capitalize both.

>Her eyes were big and profound//
"Profound" isn't really a physical quality...

>“Make yourself comfortable,” said Fluttershy, moving towards the kitchen again.//
Note how often you use this sentence structure. "She performed this action, performing this other action." You don't want to create a repetitive feel. Now, the simpler a sentence form is, the more you can get away with it before it gets repetitive. The basic "She performed this action" blends in for longer before it starts calling attention to itself, and tha's really the key: you don't want the writing calling attention to itself.

>Two little rabbits hopped up to it and began eating hurriedly.//
Also watch how often you use -ly adverbs like this. They're pretty weak descriptors, but thank goodness I haven't caught you using them to convey emotions. Yet. Also beware using start/begin as your verb. I've noticed several already. They're obvious, in that any given action will begin. It's only worth using this verb to emphasize the beginning because it's abrupt or the action never finishes.

>I was out of animal feed.//
If being out in the storm was such a big deal, why was the store where she bought this still open?

>a half a dozen//
Lose one of those a's. Doesn't matter which.

>birdfeeder//
bird feeder

>The birds all fluttered to it immediately.//
Well, not all bids eat seeds, and even ones that do eat them prefer different kinds. This might need some clarification.

>Not a big deal?//
When a ! or ? is attached to an italicized word, italicize it as well.

>eyeing her strangely//
Too vague. I have no idea what this looks like, either literally or through some imagery. Describe it.

>with an audible squish//
Again with the sound effects. This is a valid word. Just leave it as such.

>I’ve got some spare winter clothes upstairs.//
And a professional weather pony who knew she might possibly get caught in this didn't take the precaution of having her own with her?

>The world was black and very ferocious-looking.//
How can it be both? I get what you're going for, but you need to say it.

>It was a terrifying scene.//
To whom? Neither pony appears frightened, and I don't want the narrator's opinion.

>knowing I could crash and burn at any second//
That speaks more to a style of flying, not the more generic topic. If any kind of flying were this dangerous, pegasi would be rare.

>to not fly//
not to fly

>She quickly returned to staring blankly at Fluttershy.//
This is the fifth "stare" in the last dozen or so paragraphs. Mix up your word choice some more. You might need to go for more description, as your other main synonyms ("look" and "gaze") are also getting some mileage on them.

>Other ponies feel those things too.//
You had me until now. It makes sense that Dash might have overlooked how Fluttershy feels, but everyone? And when a cutie mark is such a pervasive part of their life? She should understand inherently how they all feel.

>The few animals that remained in the room//
You don't need "in the room," and it's repetitive with the last sentence anyway.

>W-what//
Again, "Wh-what."

>It’s Harriot the bear!//
Wait, how would a badger know that? All the animals are holed up in their individual homes, right? Might need a bit of explanation.

>She resumed her mad rush//
She was described as "cantering to the kitchen." That's not a mad rush.

>with that//
Phrases like this and "at that point" are horribly self-referential things to have in narration, expect for first-person.

>just staring at the door//
Oh, good, we're back to the staring.

>staring up at the nothing on the ceiling//
...

>her face nonplussed//
"Nonplussed" is more of an attitude than an expression. It's not really something a face can be. A face can express surprise, for instance, but it can't be surprised.

>ever!//
Again, italicize that punctuation.

You use "stare" 10 times. That doesn't sound so bad. It's only about once per page on average. But as is a common problem, you tend to repeat certain words in clusters, and most of these are on just a couple of pages. Same thing with start/begin (14 instances), look (24), just (28). And on to your "to be" verbs. I'm only looking at the most common forms, but we have be (15), been (4), was (21), is (15), were (17), isn't (2), wasn't (1), weren't (1). That's 76, or about one every 3.5 sentences, 1 per paragraph, 10 per page. While it's not necessary or even a good thing to eliminate them altogether (doing so in dialogue can be especially difficult while maintaining a natural tone), it's a good idea to reduce them wherever you can. It's not that hard, if you put a little thought into it. Overuse of "to be" verbs can indicate excessive passive voice (I didn't see any), telly language (I'll get to that in a second), or a need to choose more active verbs (there we go). It's much more interesting to read about what happens than what is. An active verb spices up even mundane things a bit, like the difference between "There he was" and "There he sat."

I like your characterization of Fluttershy. She knows what her talent is and has confidence in it. And Dash's dialogue is well done. Now, you don't really have any conflict here. I can excuse that in the case of showing character development, but you've chosen to have Dash's character grow by finding out something she should already know. You might need to tweak that to give this story some bite. Or you could add in some conflict by having Dash agonize over Fluttershy while she's gone, wonder what's taking her so long, thinking she should have insisted on going along, etc. Just spitballing here, but you get the idea.

I was pleased I didn't catch you using telly language, but part of that seems to be because you didn't delve into their emotions that consistently. There were spots where you had nice body language, dialogue, and word choice to create a vivid picture of how they must look and feel, but there were other places that it felt a bit superficial. Take the last scene, for instance. Fluttershy comes in, and we get a physical description, but nothing she says or does backs up that she must be exhausted. You're leaning on events a bit much, and secondarily, on dialogue, to carry the story, but it takes a bit more nuanced approach to create that emotional attachment.
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Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Roma bucked a beige hind leg at one of the poles holding up the awning of her market stall but her hoof just scraped at the wood.//
Check out the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread. And a minor thing: it's kind of forced to work in her color this way. For one, we start in a moment of high emotion, and her color doesn't seem to be the kind of thing that would stand out to someone watching, so it interrupts the action. Insofar as the narrator seems to be in Roma's perspective anyway, this doesn't seem like the kind of information she'd find important. And for another thing, you're naturally throwing a lot of information at the reader this early in the story, so it's best to keep this to what's pertinent for now. Does it matter what color she is? probably not. IMO, if it's never important, it's not worth mentioning at all, but I'll grant that many readers in this fandom like such descriptions, so at least find a less obtrusive place to work it in.

>With a snort//
This is your ninth sentence, and we finally get one that doesn't start with the subject. Try to mix up your openers a bit more. Not too much, but a little helps keep it from feeling repetitive. I've looked ahead, and this is somewhat of an issue throughout the story. Also be careful how you mix it up, as many authors quickly run into overuse of "as" clauses and "he did this, doing that" structures.

>tomato dotted//
Hyphenate the compound descriptor.

>—ack!” The cap dropped to the ground again as a loud knocking came from the counter behind her.//
This is all out of sorts. She reacts to the knocking before it happens. It's important for the sequencing of events to make sense, or it subconsciously doesn't add up.

>What has gotten in to you?//
Usually, that's "into" as one word.

>Rainy gulped as her wide eyes drifted between the counter, the broken pole, and Roma.//
You've actually got a good bit of action interspersed with the dialogue here. This is a good way to add realism and remind us that the conversants aren't just disembodied floating heads. The only thing I'll say is that this is the first one of these actions that gives us information about the characters' emotions. Try to work a bit more of that in. And kudos for getting at the emotion indirectly instead of outright naming how they feel. This is the correct way to handle "show-versus-tell."

>or something. Does Aura have a card or something//
Watch for word or phrase repetition where it's not being done for some deliberate effect.

>Berry Pinch//
Did you mean Berry Punch? Or is this an OC?

>I’m just tryin’ ta be civil, Roma. Somethin’ ya seem to be losin’ yer grip on today.//
A little accent goes a long way. You don't want imitative spellings to slow the reader down at all. By clipping the g's off those verbs, you've already created an informal voice, and I guarantee you readers will already hear the "to" and "your" in their heads as you've already spelled them. I'd recommend toning this back a bit.

>Crafty Crate trotted past Roma, stepping carefully around the strewn papers and tomatoes.//
Watch for misplaced modifiers. Participles are especially notorious for this. Modifiers like to latch onto the nearest possible object in most cases. Here, proximity suggests it's Roma who's "stepping carefully." In many cases, the reader can just apply a bit of logic to figure out what you meant, but in this case, it truly is ambiguous. I suspect it's Crate doing the stepping, but I can't tell.

>I was tellin’ Raindrops, here,” he nodded towards the pegasus mare, “about how Pinkie//
That's not how to work an aside into a quote. Here are your options:
I was tellin’ Raindrops, here—” he nodded towards the pegasus mare “—about how Pinkie
if he actually stops speaking to nod, or:
I was tellin’ Raindrops, here”—he nodded towards the pegasus mare—“about how Pinkie
if the speech is continuous.

>Nearby a couple of ponies//
While it's not unusual to go without commas for introductory elements like this in British usage, it feels like you're going for a preposition sense here, which substantially changes the meaning.

>Sorry sirs//
Missing comma for direct address.

>Behind the three Raindrops looked up from the gathered papers.//
Here's another introductory element that's kind of misleading without a comma. It makes it sound like there are three Raindrops there.

>—gack!” Rainy looked up to see Roma pouncing at her//
Again, you've got the reaction before the cause.

>Beige legs and a panicked expression//
See, here's the place to work in her color. You could probably delete the first one. But why just her legs? Isn't she a solid color?

>A few moved to start gathering them back up again while others began to whisper back and forth.//
I've noticed a number of these "start" and "begin" verbs. They're often overused by inexperienced authors. It's obvious that any given action would begin. It's best to reserve these words for times when a beginning is noteworthy because it's abrupt or because the action gets interrupted, fails, etc.

>Roma pushed herself off of Raindrops and looked around in horror.//
Have a look at the show versus tell section at the top of this thread. You seem to be doing fine on that front, but I want you to see how this "in horror" is completely redundant with the description in the following sentence, which does a far better job of connecting me with the character, since I have to interpret her actions to infer what her emotions are.

>One of the ponies helping gasped and pulled one of the pages//
Repetitive phrasing.

>looked around at the others with a look of disgust.//
Repetitive use of "look," and telly "of disgust." Show me how he looks, what he does, and let me figure out he's disgusted.

>Some turned faces filled with concern and shame at one another while others simply shrugged.//
As I say in the aforementioned description, it's not always necessary to show. For these ponies in the crowd that we will probably never see again, it's not crucial to show with them, but you're pushing it by piling up the "concern and shame."

>When she didn’t turn//
Needs a comma to set off the dependent clause.

>Rainy’s expression hardened with rage.//
Yeah, ease off those prepositional emotions.

>she had left it in the counter//
Usually "on" a counter. If it's inside, it's not really the counter anymore—more like a cabinet or shelf.

>to not push//
not to push

>but her and Rarity had tried to lighten her mood some//
That first "her" should be a "she."

>a soft thud//
Sound effects are discouraged in narration, but as this is a valid word anyway, just remove the italics.

>Gummy crawled out from underneath an end table holding a pink balloon in his jaws//
Another misplaced modifier. It sounds like the end table is holding a balloon.

>By Celestia they won’t take her.//
Missing comma for the invective.

>I’ve got some stamps in my saddlebag, let me get those and how about you mail the card to her?//
Comma splice.

>The sun had yet to raise fully//
Rise. "Raise" requires a direct object.

>I sure am glad you think so, sweetie, we may be eating them for a while.//
Another comma splice.

All told, a rather nice story. You only make a few consistent errors, and those are easy ones to fix. I do have two comments on how the story unfolds, however.

Roma's reaction to the "sorry" balloon was so muted and went by so fast that it's not at all clear that she reasoned out what it was. She's pretty matter-of-fact about something that sould be a pretty big emotional moment for her.

Second, it's odd that advertising would be such an alien concept to them. As much as their world is like ours, I'd err on the side of something that timeless existing there, unless canon has specifically said it isn't. Even in your case, the ponies aren't reacting to the cards as if they're some wonderful, newfangled thing. Perhaps it's akin more to a celebrity endorsement, except that there was no indication the cards were identifiable as coming from Pinkie. Maybe something to think about.

In addition, take a look through your use of "to be" verbs. You actually didn't have all that many. Over the few most common forms, I only counted about 40, or maybe one per page. But there were a few spots that you used them in clusters, so just watch that. I'll spare you the full speech, since you seemed to avoid them pretty well, an so must know something about keeping them in check.
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Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>One thousand years.
>
>A long time for nearly anyone, except a select few, and one of those few was currently sitting in her favorite chair awaiting a visitor.//
The first sentence takes an almost personal voice, and then the second immediately pushes back out to an external viewpoint. You should decide whether you want a more objective or subjective narrator, then keep a fairly consistent voice, unless you want to do the occasional shift between characters.

>as kind as they could be given everything that had happened//
Missing a comma for the participle.

>she would have been ecstatic to find that she would//
Watch repetitive phrasings. There's probably a better way to word this.

>through a millennia//
The singular is "millennium."

>, she believed his name was Locked Tight,//
This can't quite be inserted in this way since it's an independent clause, and it's structured as an aside anyway, so it'd work better with dashes.

>…quite the echo though.//
A leading ellipsis is for times when a speaker is picking up an earlier dropped thought or is just becoming audible. It doesn't really work here. And capitalize.

>draconiquus//
I think canon spelling is "draconequus."

>Thank you for bringing him, that will be all.//
Comma splice.

>the strange creature he’d escorted//
This smacks of skipping into Lock's perspective for a moment. He's the only one there who would consider Discord strange. See previous comment about keeping a steady perspective.

>(on the ceiling, of course)//
Parentheticals rarely work in narration, and even more than the first time, this is striking an abnormally conversational tone as compared to the bulk of the narration.

>what looked suspiciously like a diary//
And now you're in Discord's head. You ought to pay attention to what information your perspective character would have access to. If you're with Celestia, you can have her interpret this based on how Discord acts and what he says, but you have to give me that evidence. She wouldn't know this explicitly.

>Celestia had looked at him in the most unbelievably tired and care worn way she had ever done in the entirety of his knowledge of her//
Careworn. And I can't believe that she would ever have looked at him that way until quite recently. The sentence ends with some awkward phrasing as well.

>I am old, Discord; frightfully old.//
A properly used semicolon would have independent clauses somewhere on both sides.

>Celestia melancholy//
Seems like you're missing a comma, but I'd also discourage you from bluntly informing me of her emotion like this.

>It opened easily and she pointed to a bright cluster of stars.//
When you start a new clause (separate subject with its own verb), you usually need to use a comma.

>“Your parents are a couple of gas giants that send light through the deep reaches of space to make tiny dots in the sky?”//
I'm kind of getting mood whiplash from him. He's oddly bland and formal at times, which isn't like him. And then we get these playful lines, but they aren't backed up with any context. He wouldn't just deadpan everything, for instance. You're relying on the dialogue alone to carry his attitude.

>Chaos and order must remain in balance, if either dominates then life is doomed.//
Comma splice and a missing comma between clauses.

>Discord raised a skeptical eyebrow.//
You're directly telling me emotions again, and this one is superfluous, as the raised eyebrow already conveys skepticism. Read the "show versus tell" section at the top of this thread.

>I’m just surprised you knew.//
Perhaps an emphasis on "you"?

>feigned death in the air//
I have no idea how this would look. Describe it to me. Otherwise, it's empty words.

>as you well know//
And this is really the point, isn't it? Discord already knows all of this, so it's being said purely for the reader's benefit. There are other ways of working it in gradually without resorting to an infodump.

>And, Sombra was last, and even then//
You don't need the first comma, and using the multiple "and"s creates a repetitive feel.

>reform//
I'd question this word choice, as the most common definition is quite opposite of what you want.

>It was a little irksome hearing that the pony who’d locked you up in stone a little while ago had spent your entire sentence looking for the folks who could put you right back in.//
It's best not to address the reader like this, and we have some narrative dissonance again.

>Discord sat with his elbow resting on his head, his chin resting on his knee.//
That's rather... contorted. Did you mean for this to be comical?

>And, a small mountain of presents filled a corner of the hall near the thrones.//
It's fairly rare for a comma after a conjunction to be correct. This one isn't.

>For Luna, it would be the greatest of delights to have so many give her so much deserved affection and attention.//
This is a really overlooked part of the story. Celestia obviously cares a lot for her sister, but this strong emotion and the lengths to which she'd go to create a special event for her barely get a sentence's mention.

>I don’t think I could have done a better job myself.”
>
>Celestia allowed Twilight a few moments to bask in the glow of her job well done//
"Done a better job" and "job well done" is fairly repetitive phrasing.

>very awed and timid looking//
Describe that look. Don't just tell me what it is.

>With a small giggle and a deep breath for courage//
Twilight accepts this huge responsibility very quickly and without much wrestling it over in her mind. It's not enough to ask whether an action would be reasonable for a character. An author must also show that the means and motivation also make sense, and by glossing over all that, two things happen: there isn't much emotional investment in what happens and it begins to feel like plot convenience rather than a natural flow of events.

>spell-//
Use a proper dash for cutoffs.

>the trails left by the tears still shined out//
"Shined" takes a direct object. It's what you do to shoes or brass. You want "shone."

>With that//
You have a lot of these introductory elements that don't have a comma to set them off. While it's not mandatory, particularly in British usage, it sometimes is a good idea for disambiguation. While that's not the case here, the choice of your introductory phrase is. Ones like this and "at that point" refer directly to the narration ad are immersion-breaking. They starkly remind the reader that he's reading text and not experiencing it.

Comma usage is the only predominant mechanical thing I'd point out. Really, it's more that while the premise is fine (frankly, just about any premise can be done well), it's treated rather superficially. Part of this is show-versus-tell. Many emotions are presented to me at face value instead of making me interpret them, but there are also many places where you don't delve into the characters' feelings at all. I pointed out a few; Luna's decision to follow her sister and Twilight's reactions to... well, everything also come to mind.

Another common problem is overuse of "to be" verbs. They're inherently boring—it's much more interesting to read about what happens that what merely is. Of the simpler forms, I counted 33 in chapter 2 and 63 in chapter 1. While it's not necessary to eliminate them altogether, this is a pretty high count for this length of story. They can indicate too much passive voice (I didn't see any), telly language (some), and a need to choose more active verbs (definitely).

Lastly, the narrative voice flits around into multiple perspectives. It would do well to adopt a more consistent mood and stay with one character, where feasible (clearly, staying with Celestia isn't an option once she's gone). Discord also comes across as odd. His playful voice is largely absent, and when it does appear, it's sudden. Not that you can't get there from canon, but you have to connect the dots a little better. It's not enough just to say that things have changed over time. This gets back to making character motivations feel realistic.
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Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Foals happily ran about as the constant ringing of the bell announced the end of school.//
Three problems already. First, the bell doesn't ring that long. I'd hardly characterize it as "constant." And gviven that, "as" clauses imply concurrent action. They wouldn't run around until after it rang, not somehow be synchronized with it. And third, we have telly language, which is a bad thing to do right off the bat when you're trying to hook the reader. Read the section on "show versus tell" at the top of this thread.

>Of all the days for Silver Spoon to get sick, why must it be today? And I don’t even have those blank flanks around to make fun of!
This is a common issue: characters speaking to themselves in an overly formal manner and solely for the purpose of giving exposition. You have to make this type of thing feel natural, but it's forced here.

>Diamond walked away from the schoolhouse, taking the dusty road in front of it//
Note that participles are prime candidates for misplaced modifiers. This one's not bad, as we can apply a bit of logic to sort it out, but if you don't pay attention, you'll eventually say something ambiguous or outright misleading. Participles ike to latch onto the nearest available object, so it sounds like the schoolhouse is taking the road.

>The warm rays of the sun and the soft chirps of the birds//
This type of indirect possession is often clunky and unwarranted. If there's some thematic or stylistic reason you want to put special focus on the rays or the chirps, fine, but I don't see any here. "The sun's warm rays and the birds' soft chirping" is more concise and direct.

>Diamond’s line of thought was abruptly lost//
Passive voice is a more prevalent but similar issue. If there's a reason you need to draw attention to the "line of thought" far more so than Diamond, fine, but there's no need here. Passive voice is an inherently boring structure; it really only works when you need it's ability to divert attention.

>Diamond changed her course, and walked over the grassy field towards the mysterious silhouette.//
See the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>(that probably appeared because of the tempest that plagued Ponyville last night),//
Parentheticals strike a much more conversational tone than your narrator is using. They don't really fit with an objective viewpoint. And the way you've structured that sentence, you shouldn't use the comma.

>his yellow coat with a brown color for a brief moment, before most of the brown liquid flowed back into the pool//
I'm getting color overload here, given that you already mentioned Snails's two colors, and your use of "coat" is immediately misleading in this context. Plus, the double use of "brown" is repetitive.

>She knew that Snails was a bit strange - but to play//
Please use a proper dash.

>as if he was a pig//
When speaking hypothetically like this, please use subjunctive mood = "as if he were"

>It’s really fun, it’s like playing in a pool and in the sand at the same time.//
Comma splice.

>Snails’//
While it's common to see this, the proper possessive is still to put the full apostrophe-s on for singular words, even when they already end in "s."

>Only a slow and dumb pony like yourself could think that such thing would be fu-//
Missing a word. And once again, please use a proper dash.

>At that moment a big blob of mud hit her right in the face, spreading the mud through most of her fur and making her tiara fall on the grass.//
Repetition of "mud," which exposes a bigger problem. You have another bad participle here, and this time, it's a dangling one: whatever it modifies never appears in the sentence. The only options for what is "spreading the mud" are "face" (somehow, I doubt her face is spreading mud) and "blob of mud" (it spreads itself?)

>the source of the laughter: a certain unicorn that was rolling around in laughter//
So, the source of laughter is laughter? I see...

>“It. Is. On…” Diamond said with a intense stare.//
Typo. And why is DT doing Rarity's schtick?

>How dare you dirty me and my tiara!?//
That's not normally posed as any sort of question. You can just go with the exclamation mark.

>The response was Snails popping his head out from the mud and sputtering mud on her face with his mouth.//
Yet more repetition of "mud." You're in the middle of a stretch where you use the word 15 times in 13 paragraphs!

>With incredible agility, Snails, still inside the mud, moved from the spot where he was to a few feet behind Diamond Tiara, who was looking around for him.
So, she's on top of him, and then somehow loses track of where he is? I'm not buying it.

>Using his horn//
You'll normally set off participles with a comma.

>With incredible reflexes//
You do this in several places. It's unclear which perspective your narrator has adopted. So when he goes on to make a judgment like "incredible," whose opinion is that? I don't mind hearing a character's opinion, but if the narrator isn't speaking for one of them, I don't care what he thinks.

>And the feelings of disdain and anger that Diamond Tiara had became feelings of joy that caused her to smile like she never smiled before.//
Yeah, this is majorly telly language. Get me to figure out what she feels. Don't just tell me.

>The Sun//
Why is that capitalized?

>The memory sparked an idea within her mind. She got up from the grass and walked towards Snails. Noticing this, he rolled on his stomach and looked at her.//
See, now you do adopt a perspective. Somewhat. But it's jerking back and forth between them. Within the same paragraph. Only she could know that an idea had sparked in her mind, and only he could know that he noticed it, unless you narrate how one of them perceived those things about the other by reading thei body language, for example.

>eyes that shined like two jewels//
"Shined" takes a direct object. It's what you do to shoes and brass. You want "shone."

>“Wha- what is it?” he managed to stutter//
When you've already spelled out the stutter, you don't need to mention it again.

>“You’re in,”//
Given what happens after this, I think you meant to say "it."

>following behind//
Redundant

>a unexpected turn//
Typo. Really, most word processors will catch this type of mistake.

>In a flash, an idea appeared on Snails’ mind, an idea that turned his happy grin into a wicked smile.//
"in Snails's mind." And he just got the idea that "Hey, I can actually catch her! Good thing I remembered!" That's awfully contrived.

>And…” Diamond shuffled closer to Snails’ side, causing her pink fur to mix with his yellow fur, “you can call me Dia if you want.”//
Tossing an aside into a quote is done like this:
And—” Diamond shuffled closer to Snails’ side, causing her pink fur to mix with his yellow fur “—you can call me Dia if you want.”

There's not much meat here. This story concentrates on the actions alone, leaving emotions mostly to telly language and Tiara's forced conversations with herself. And her transforming attitude about Snails is a rather sudden one. It doesn't feel like something that would actually happen—more like it's molded that way for plot convenience. And since that's the entire source of the conflict and character growth here, none of it comes across as authentic. To be blunt, this needs a lot of work, and I'd recommend gaining more experience as a writer before attempting to give it a serious revision.
>> No. 129124
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:

>Rainbow Dash finds herself hospitalized with injuries after going into a flat spin while trying to teach Twilight Sparkle some new moves. While there, finds herself rooming with Ivy Cluster, a young colt suffering from leukemia.//
Missing word and close repetition of "while." Also, I doubt readers will care, but the idea of a horse going into a sustained flat spin is laughable. (Yes, aerodynamics is my day job.)

>she finds herself needing//
So, for the second time in three sentences, she "finds herself" doing something. Besides being repetitive, this is a commonly overused expression by inexperienced writers.

>Rainbow must confront the loss, and the fundamental fact that life is not fair.//
Unnecessary comma.

Story:

>You were trying to show me how to do something you called a ‘yaw turn’ when suddenly you began to...I think ‘stall’ is the word?//
Stall would be very gentle for something like a pegasus wing that's not really pushing the boundaries of design. Natural wings are pretty all-purpose as opposed to something that would have a hard stall due to being designed for a very specific use. What'd strike me as more realistic is an asymmetric stall during a hard pull-up, which would roll her pretty badly and might even get her into a pilot-induced oscillation. See, the problem with getting technical is that most readers won't know to question it, but you can be hung out to dry when a reader does know the subject. It pays to get it right.

>It was only now that Rainbow Dash realized she was in a hospital bed.//
Okay, now I can tell that you're writing from Dash's perspective. I'd encourage you to make that clear from sentence one. It came across as very sterile and clinical, where you should have had her coming out of a daze, wondering what the pounding in her head was, etc.

>Broken bones were part of the job when you wanted to be an ace flyer//
It can be tricky, but it's worth avoiding even the appearance of addressing the author.

>the inevitable result of failing to execute a trick properly//
But in canon, she's messed up tricks several times without breaking any bones.

>while we were worried you were unconscious due to a concussion, it appears to have just been the result of nausea and shock//
I must confess to being out of my element here, but do shock (possibly) and nausea (I doubt this one) really cause unconsciousness?

>Daring Do and the Crystal Chalice//
Book titles should be underlined or (preferably) italicized.

>for awhile//
"Awhile" and "a while" are often interchangeable, but you need a noun to serve as the preposition's object, so it should technically be two words here.

>The pain in her leg was intense.//
This is very bland. I'm just to take the narrator's word for it? Step me through her reaction. Give me some imagery as to what this feels like, show me her physical reaction, etc.

>Twilight smiled and began to head for the door. “I’ll make sure it’s in my saddlebag tomorrow. Now just try to relax, and get better soon. You wanna get better in time to see the Wonderbolts perform over Canterlot, don’t you?”//
Fine point here. "Begin" and "start" actions are overused by inexperienced writers, and I usually advise to refrain from using them except in cases where the beginning is worth accentuating because it's abrupt or the action never finishes. Taking it in that sense, this can work—she stops heading for the door to speak. Otherwise, she's just chattering as she keeps walking out into the hall. But you didn't show her stopping, so I can't assume that. And that's an awful lot of dialogue to get out if she doesn't stop. Might be worth clarifying.

>There were more important things to pay attention to than Twilight's motor mouth.//
I get that you mean the book is more important at the moment, but you don't transition to it at all. She just starts reading. It's a bit abrupt, given that this is a very cogent thought that doesn't feel at all distracted by said book.

>Rainbow Dash squealed with delight//
Placing a mood or emotion after in, for, or with is telly and almost always redundant. We already get the picture from the squeal. Just leave it at that.

>Almost.//
Indentation is off here.

>came a small male voice//
She's got plenty of time to identify him as male. At that age, it can be hard to tell the difference, so it's a little disconcerting to get a snap judgment.

>She was a little embarrassed to be caught reading aloud.//
A tiny bit repetitive with the line a few sentences back, but it's also a bit incongruous. She was adamant that a book like this demanded to be read, and while she didn't know Ivy was there, she couldn't have had any expectations that a nurse or doctor wouldn't enter unnanounced.

>This seemed to mollify her roommate//
Use of this, that, these, or those as pronouns is weak in narration, since they have broad antecedents and refer to the text itself. Try to find an appropriate noun to put after it.

>shuffling down into his sheets. He must have been trying to sit up//
Which is it? Down or up?

>Daring Do and the Coconut of Quendor//
Same deal with punctuating book titles.

>was very perceptive. “Are you saying I’m not smart?”//
These don't seem to go together, unless she's admitting she's not smart and she's afraid he noticed. You're also tossing me quite a lot of "to be" verbs here. It's not a killer, but see if you can keep things a bit more active.

>At least she and Ivy could agree on something.//
This makes it sound like they'd been in an argument, but there hasn't really been a point of contention, other than the single one Dash contrived.

>He was hooked up to numerous machines//
And given that the room had been quiet, did she hear any of them either now or earlier? Might add a bit of atmosphere.

>Rainbow Dash laid back in her bed and looked//
Lay/lie confusion. And the fourth use of "look" in the last five paragraphs.

>House//
Why is this capitalized?

>There was a deep sorrow in his voice, a sadness//
Given that this is a pretty critical emotional moment, I'd like to see it get more power than this. Some imagery would work here. Be sure to concentrate exactly what about his voice conveys sadness instead of just telling me that's what it is, but keep th language under control so it still sounds compatible with Dash.

>How… How//
Inconsistent with your prior spacing of ellipses.

>He looked cold, despite the fact that he had more blankets than Rainbow Dash. Rainbow turned back to her book, glad for an excuse not to look at the colt.//
"Look" instances 8 and 9 of 22 in the story. That's getting up there, especially since you tend to use them in clumps like this.

>Pinkie was a total spaz, but at least she was good to have around when you needed cheering up.//
Addressing the reader again, and hitting me with the "to be" verbs again. For instance, consider "it came in handy to have her around" in place of "she was good to have around." It's a more active construct.

>On the inside it was yellow cake with chocolate marbling//
How does she know this? You haven't mentioned cutting into it yet.

>combination of sugar and chocolate//
Not sure what you mean by this, since chocolate generally includes sugar.

>Rainbow Dash messily dug in to a piece//
Not sure this is in character for her. I haven't seen any adult eat messily except Pinkie.

>as soon as they left he had started crying//
Comma between the clauses.

>petulant//
For someone who thinks "tenacious" is a sneeze, I doubt she knows that word, and it's generally a good idea to keep your narrator within the ballpark of the perspective character's intelligence level.

>Pinkie Pie grabbed a slice of cake and put it on a paper plate, bouncing over to the other side of the curtain.//
Watch for misplaced modifiers. By their proximity, it sounds like the plate is bouncing.

>she stopped suddenly//
Missed capitalization. This isn't a speech tag.

>Rainbow pulled aside the curtain to see the action the action.//
...

>She was somewhat relieved.//
Give be a brief reaction here instead. Her jaw unclenches, her shoulders relax, she sighs... something like one of those.

>“It’s not just chocolate”//
Missing punctuation.

>MARBLED//
Italics are preferred over all caps for emphasis.

>until he started crying//
It's starting to get a bit melodramatic that he cries as much as he does. Children are amazingly resilient about such things, and just come to accept them as the way things are.

>Pinkie hefted a bite-sized piece of the cake with a plastic fork.//
Wait, you said the nurse was helping him.

>‘Keep Smiling, signed Ponyacci ‘//
Extraneous space.

>while Rainbow was thoroughly sick of the joke//
But she was taking measures to make sure she didn't hear it...

>It was hard to look at him, sometimes.//
Unnecessary comma.

>but incredibly sad//
You're beating this drum awfully loudly.

>I dunno kid
Missing comma for direct address.

>Besides, Ivy//
Extraneous space.

>Rainbow Dash bit her lip and looked at the floor. “Then what’s got you scared?” said Rainbow, biting her lip and looking at the floor.//
So, she's biting her lip and looking at the floor, you say?

>sonic rainboom//
Inconsistent capitalization.

>She was, halfway through the book.//
Unnecessary comma.

>She wasn’t supposed to cry, she was supposed to be the tough, cool pony that everypony looked up to.//
Comma splice.

>It’s not just good publicity, it keeps one humble.//
Another comma splice.

>The nurse frowned, looking down at the floor.//
Her reaction is pretty bland. Put yourself in her position. What would you say to Dash? How would you act? The nurse is pretty familiar with her, so it's not like she's talking to a stranger.

>“Buck you!” This wasn’t supposed to happen! “You bucking idiots!//
Oh, goody. Using "buck" as an expletive, especially since it'd be very inappropriate the first time she said it several scenes ago.

>Rainbows shoulder//
Missing apostrophe.

>Dashie, please!//
When has Twilight ever called her that?

>Rainbow Dash moved to kick at the desk//
She already kicked it...

>Twilight began to cry.//
I'm unclear as to her motivation for doing so, other than the token sadness here. Does she feel bad for Dash? Or had she become attached to Ivy as well from her visits with Dash?

>Please Rainbow//
Missing comma for direct address again.

>princess!
When used as a term of address, capitalize this. And when ! or ? is attached to an italicized word, italicize it, too.

>If Celestia, or I, could have made//
Unnecessary commas.

>Rainbow Dash felt a tear run down her cheek.//
Oh, please don't do the single tear cliche.

>“But you didn’t!”//
This doesn't follow from what Twilight said. Is Dash just misunderstanding her?

>Twilight panted for breath.//
She's that out of shape? She hasn't gone very far.

>“Tell it to Ivy!” mumbled Dash//
I'm not sure how you mumble something emphatically.

>She leaned into Twilight, trying her best to hide her sobs.//
The exact action Twilight just did in the last paragraph... And your participle is truly ambiguous here. By proximity, Twilight is trying to hide her sobs, but I think you actually meant Dash, and there's no way to say definitively.

>“I miss him.”//
That's a pretty rapid transition for someone who didn't want to be seen crying just a couple of paragraphs ago.

>wiped a tear from her cheek//
Not again...

>Rainbow Dash sniffed//
She just did so. She can again, but call attention to the repetition, so it doesn't appear as an oversight.

In this penultimate scene, scroll down the page and note what the first word of each paragraph is. I think you'll notice a pattern. Unless they reinforce something thematic, patterns are a bad thing.

>It felt weird talking to a stone that represented somepony instead of the pony itself.//
Yeah, you've said three times already that it was weird or awkward. And yet her dialogue isn't coming across as forced. Consider how comfortable she was in her hospital room reading aloud when she thought she was alone. Now she is, so why is it such a big deal? I could see her finding a nice peace precisely because of that.

>It just wasn't the same//
I'd axe this, given that she says exactly this just after.

>With that//
That's another type of phrase I usually advise avoiding, since it directly references the narration.

I almost feel like something's missing between the last two scenes. For one, it might help smooth the about-face of attitude she has. For another, did she attend the funeral? What happened there? But, you know, that could easily come down to personal preference. A lot of the things I've marked are pretty subjective and are meant more as suggestions.

I found this at least an authentic depiction of how this would happen, but I felt a bit distant from it. There's plenty of info like body language that tends to draw the reader closer to the character, but I still didn't quite connect, and that may just be me. Take this line: "Rainbow didn’t want to admit it, but she needed this hug very badly." That's a more insidious kind of telling to root out, but consider that while it doesn't directly tell me of her emotions, it's exceptionally close to doing so, and more to the point, it's not something that creates a visual on its own. Convince me she needs the hug. What kinds of thinga might do that? Well, She could accept it and try to fight it in fits and starts. Maybe she can read from Twilight's reaction that she's surprised at how long Dash stays in the hug. Maybe Twi assumes it's over and pulls back, but Dash doesn't let go, so Twi squeezes her again. And Dash just enjoys the feeling of a warm coat against her cheek. These are the kinds of subtleties that can really draw a reader in.

Really, the only things I'd say you need to fix are the mechanical issues and a few bits that are essentially plot holes. But give the rest a think as well and decide what you agree would help the story.
>> No. 129125
>>129124
>I must confess to being out of my element here, but do shock (possibly) and nausea (I doubt this one) really cause unconsciousness?
Yes.

(Don't bother about me, I just wanted to answer this question.)
>> No. 129127
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

First, let me say that I read a few paragraphs in before I started compiling notes. So I will note here that I already like the tone you're striking and I like your idea for the story, but some things about the way you're telling it aren't sitting right with me. I'll try to point out as many of those as I can.

>I tapped my chin with my hoofsie.//
I loved the first few sentences until I got to this one. Not that they were perfect—they all had the same structure and length, so got to feel repetitive (1: main clause, participial phrase; 2: main clause, absolute phrase, which uses a participial verb form; 3: main clause, participial phrase). But I didn't know until this sentence that the narrator was Pinkie. That nice imagery and calming language you'd used all of a sudden felt out of place. It's often a good idea anyway to have your narrator roughly mirror the focus character's attitude, sensibilities, and intelligence, but it's crucial when that character is the narrator. And this just doesn't sound like language Pinkie would use.

Edit: I didn't see too much more of this, really, but while your Pinkie voice was convincing, the second chapter in Celestia's voice came across as more bland. I didn't get the sense that there was a lot going on beneath the surface, except where you went out of your way to say so explicitly, which isn't the best way of doing it.

>I added ‘mind reading’ to my mental list of ‘Things Princess Celestia can do because she’s Princess Celestia’. I also added it to my paper list, which I stuffed in my mane once I was done with it.//
You don't need to capitalize "Things" the way you're using it. But my main issue in this exceprt is a lack of reactions. Pinkie doesn't react to Celestia's apparent mind reading, other than a matter-of-fact thought about it? And then you have this nice sight gag, but it loses its absurdity when you omit part of the action (her pulling out the list and writing on it), which would have added a ridiculousness factor for Celestia taking no notice of it, or, well, having Celestia take notice of it and offer a reaction.

>Not the business, or the ponies Applejack likes, but the cube.//
This comes across as forced, since she already identified them as being in packets.

>‘Cause//
Smart quotes always give you a backwards leading apostrophe. You'll have to fix it manually. In fact, you have quite a few of these.

>cheerfully//
Your choice of speaking verb already conveys this. No need to be telly.

>Both of us were sat on her bed//
Syntax implies that someone else was responsible for sitting them there.

>your Highness//
Capitalize both words.

>one on one//
In this instance, hyphenate.

>I am glad to hear that, I never would have thought otherwise.//
Comma splice.

>every day, bringing light onto a new day//
A bit repetitive use of "day."

>I looked up at her with pleading eyes.//
Here's why first-person narrators get somewhat of a pass for being telly, at least about their own emotions. It's awfully self-aware of her to describe her own eyes as pleading.

>Maybe she could all those royal things//
Missing word.

>you gain more experience each time you level up//
Why the gamer reference? That really supposes a lot about Equestrian culture, that it's a pervasive enough expression that Pinkie would know what it meant, or that despite all canon evidence, she's a gamer herself. This line killed the mood for me.

>lil’//
li’l

>while I got wrapped up in magic and got lowered to the ground//
Repetitive phrasing.

>The calendar had pictures of my friends for every month.//
This sentence is completely out of place. It has nothing to do with what's going on, and it doesn't seem like the kind of detail she'd notice right then, anyway.

>you’re birthday//
Your/you're confusion.

>What about her sister?//
This really does beg the question: would Luna know when Celestia's birthday is? And do they know when Luna's is?

>Celestia sipped her tea, thinking.//
Three things about this: Watch for misplaced modifiers. Participles try to modify the nearest prior object, so it sounds like the tea is thinking. Second, you've been using "think," or other variations on it, a lot lately. Third, it might be better anyway to describe her appearance and get me to realize she's thinking instead of just telling me that.

>Or maybe that was Celestia’s perfume.//
This kind of defeated what was building into a nice sweet moment.

>Even after I passed away, I’d make sure that her birthday date would be in my will, and remembered for all time.//
Oddly morbid thought, and if she starts celebrating her birthday on the summer solstice and Celestia endorses the practice, Pinkie shouldn't be worried that it wouldn't continue, anyway.

>Yeah, Celestia has rock wings.//
That's just weird...

>She had lost//
I think you're missing a direct object here.

>It was cold all of a sudden and my tongue didn't like that one bit.//
Missing comma between the clauses.

>I may have not known her//
There's a fine shade of meaning between this and "I may not have known her," and I don't think you chose the right one.

>deciding to change tact//
The phrase is "change tack." It's an expression taken from sailing.

>earnesty//
earnestness

>was a delight to watch//
I'm not going to point out every place—in fact, I'm only pointing out a couple—but places like this really keep the reader at a disconnect. Like I said, you get somewhat of a reprieve from showing for a first-person narrator, but you still need to try in moments like this, where there's a nice subtle undercurrent, and you could really get the reader to identify with the character. Give me more about how this makes her feel, not just that it was a delight. What physical sensations might it bring? What imagery might she use to describe it? This is a symptom of a larger issue: you're passing up opportunities to delve beyond what happens and let us see how the characters feel about it. Or you do, but in such a way that it gives us the emotions directly instead of getting us to interpret them from cues. You might benefit from reading the show versus tell section at the top of this thread.

>Of all the Elements, Laughter is the brightest. Yes, Magic is very powerful, but it requires the other elements in order to be such. Laughter does not have such an issue. Laughter stands tall, a light in the darkness, a beacon of hope.//
Point taken about Magic's role, but you've made a bold statement here that Laughter is superior to the remaining four elements, too, without backing it up. If you'd made a less extreme point, maybe, but you set it apart, then abandoned the line of reasoning.

>Neigh//
Pony puns really don't help carry a serious mood. And now you've used this one twice.

>I opened my wing, gesturing at the space around it with a nod.//
This is just a little creepy...

>pristine looking//
Hyphenate compound modifiers.

>and offered it to.//
Missing word.

>I didn’t decline; it looked luscious. It tasted just as good as it looked.//
This goes by awfully fast. I think dwelling a bit on her enjoyment of the treat would make for a nice moment.

>eyes-wide//
Opposite problem here: you don't need that hyphen.

>Said hoof then touched my nose, leaving it covered in a sugary mess.//
That's awfully presumptuous of her.

Watch your use of "to be" verbs. Here are my counts of the most common forms:
was: 67
is: 26
were: 9
be: 18
been: 4
That's an awful lot for this length of story. It can indicate telly language (somewhat of a problem), overuse of passive voice (I didn't really see any that I felt was unwarranted), or a need to choose more active verbs (that's the big one here). Even something as simple as "his shirt was red" versus "he wore a red shirt." Many instances are easy to change, and they give your prose a much more active and interesting feel. Readers are more engaged by what happens, not what is. It's not necessary to get rid of them all, but I bet you could effect a significant reduction and make your story much more readable in the process.

I usually try to make some wrap-up comments here, but it'd just be harping on all the things I've already said. There's not some overarching wisdom to impart. So, succinctly, you need a little closer emotional attachment between the reader and your characters. Give me more about how they feel about what they're saying, but in abstract terms: what imagery it inspires, how it makes them act, what they think about it. You do it right in some places, so I know you're capable.

The last thing I'll say is that a story needs either a conflict or some character growth. You're obviously going for the latter here, but it's still pretty weak. Yes, Pinkie's undecided, but that doesn't mean she didn't learn anything. It could be that the lesson hasn't sunk it yet, or that it has and she doesn't know what she wants to do about it yet. Again, I think you're going for the latter, but just because she hasn't pledged to live her life differently, she can still have an epiphany. She hasn't considered this possibility before, and suddenly there it is. Does she ask some new questions? Does she hold it inside, but clearly has an "aha" moment? What would that look like? Character growth means contrasting the before and after, and shows or implies what consequences occur. Celestia also sees Pinkie off on the first step of her journey, but since Pinkie isn't embracing it fully, what might Celestia do to convince her? Maybe invite her to tea again, with an obvious topic of conversation? Make it a regular appointment? I'm also curious as to what made Celestia think of doing this in the first place. What evidence did she have that everything wasn't right with Pinkie?
>> No. 129129
>>129127
Hi there! Author of the fic here.

First of all, thanks for taking the time to review my story! It's nice to get some detailed feedback about my story, although I do understand the need for efficiency within the EQD pre-reading staff.

Also, I rarely use any 'chan' sites, so their layout horribly confuses me. Apologies if anything seems unclear in my posting.

I'll address bigger points and all that good stuff, 'cause there's quite a lot. (Which is good!)

First, Pinkie's narrative voice. Writing her is... tricky, at best. It's a fine line between keeping coherency and just the right amount of 'Pinkieness'. I tried to cut down on her going off on tangents, but without any it doesn't feel as Pinkie as it could be, at least to me.

As for the first few sentences... I kind of intended it to be a bit jarring. I fully believe Pinkie can take a look at things and see their beauty and think about it. Sure, we see her in the show as a random party pony, but I've always thought there's more to her than that. She's not just an extreme up or down. She has a whole lot of in between too. Now I'm going off on a tangent! If you'd like to discuss her further, feel free to poke me. Point is, writing her is a balance between subtlety and randomness, which probably can be jarring at times.

With Celestia, it was my first time writing her narrative voice, so I agree that it's probably a it bland.

With show vs. tell, I find it quite difficult to show. At least, with character emotions. I'm not sure why, but I find it pretty hard to describe a character's facial expression, other than just going "She frowned" or, "She smiled" or something more complex like "She furrowed her brows". Describing the face is tough, because even a minor movement can drastically change the way a character looks. And I do dislike repetition, but sometimes it's unavoidable, unfortunately. Still annoys me though!

Same kinda thing for sentence variation and 'to be' verbs. I do think I need more of them, but it's very tricky to thing of more varied ways when you're not sure of many ways to do it. I'm not trying to make sorry excuses; I think I have to read more fics.

Finally, the point of the story and character growth. I'll admit... there's not much a point to it. It was just a test that got a little out of hand: could I write Pinkie and Celestia in the story, with them just talking, and make it engaging? Hopefully I succeeded, but these matters are very subjective.

Thanks again for reviewing! Hope to hear from you soon!

-JaketheGinger
>> No. 129132
>>129129
>writing her is a balance between subtlety and randomness, which probably can be jarring at times
Oh, I completely agree that Pinkie is capable of serious thought. But in canon, even when she is serious, she still has a rather playful way of talking about it. Take "Party of One," for example, or when she was worried about Dash going off to the Wonderbolts Academy.

Over those first few sentences, my concern wasn't so much what Pinkie was saying as how she was saying it. Those seemed to be much more formal and use word choices that I couldn't imagine for Pinkie.

>With show vs. tell, I find it quite difficult to show.
In that section at the top of this thread, I go into some more of the devices that writers can use. It does take some experience before a writer develops a good sense of what is or isn't telly and when telling is okay. It's not all facial expression. There are other things you can do than a frown or a furrowed brow. Take other synonyms that have sightly different connotations than a frown, like a scowl or a grimace. But then there's a lot of other body language: fidgeting to imply restlessness or distraction, trudging or plodding to indicate many flavors of sadness... There's what they say and what speaking verbs you use. Just imagine observing a real person in a conversation or really doing anything. What are all the little things they do? That's what adds all the realism and subtext, and that's what removes the need to have the narrator outright say how the character feels. Imagine your character is in a play, and the stage director is about to send him out for his scene. What would the director tell him to do to communicate his character's mood to the audience?

>Same kinda thing for sentence variation and 'to be' verbs.
These aren't that difficult to do, either, but it does take some concentration to remain aware of it. For "to be" verbs, it really is just this simple: when you find yourself using one, see if you can rephrase the sentence without one in such a way that it doesn't lose any meaning and still has a good flow, like you could imagine an everyday person saying it. For sentence structure, it can hinge a lot on personal preference. Granted, this is my preference, though I'm not going to force it on anyone, and I wouldn't require you to use my system to get onto EqD. My go-to sentences are the simple and compound. ("he dd this," "he did this, and she did that.") They're so common that they blend in, and they go by without notice until you've hit four or five in a row. The main thing is to keep them with varying lengths and to throw in a different structure every third or fourth sentences or so. And those others can be many things: dialogue, a stylistically used fragment, or placing an element other than the subject first, like having a dependent clause, participle, adverb, prepositional phrase, absolute phrase, or participial phrase up front. As a more unusual structure, these ones stand out more, so they get repetitive faster. Word choice works the same way. Which word would you notice more if it were used three times in a sentence, "the" or "antediluvian"?

>Finally, the point of the story and character growth.
I see that you did have some character growth, but it's so subdued as to be almost unnoticeable. You can have the nature of the growth be the same, but I'd advise making it a little more overt. As it is, it's unclear whether Pinkie learned anything or will do anything about it.

Any more questions? Feel free to reply.

Last edited at Sat, Nov 16th, 2013 13:46

>> No. 129133
>>129132
>>129132

Thanks for the quick and detailed response! It's kinda odd how it's inspired me to look for more reviews on my fics, but I suppose that's a good thing, eh?

I just have one last question, but if it's too much trouble, don't worry about it. But I would like to see what I did right. Seeing the stuff I did well will help me transition more smoothly into making all my stuff as good, if you catch my drift.

Thanks again!

-JaketheGinger
>> No. 129134
>>129133
There's a lot that was done right. As I said, this story is pretty close to being postable, so it takes a lot less space to mark mistakes.

For one, you have a good sense of Pinkie's character. Her dialogue and narration were convincing. For another, you showed a good restraint in the story's emotions. Too many authors go over the top, and would have Pinkie bursting into tears when confronted with her weakness, but here, while it was still clear how the characters felt, it was a strong undercurrent instead of being pushed into the reader's face. And what most inexperienced writers don't realize is that this is the more powerful and realistic way to do it. I also didn't find much in the way of mechanical problems, which is always nice. While I think you need to do more with it, I liked the last part where Celestia was gently hinting to Pinkie and watching her pick it up. It was nicely constructed and subtle. It's kind of hard to work in anything other than generalities when pointing out what went right; if I saw a specific line I thought was wonderful, for example, I would have said so in the review, since it's essentially the notes I'm taking as I read.
>> No. 129207
I really found very few mechanical problems, so I'm not going to pick at those.

The writing was good here, and there were some good horror elements going on, but it needs a tune-up.

First, I'm not sure the journal format is doing anything for you. At least the entries are plausible for a journal, which is more than I can say for most such stories, but they're structured more for plot convenience than anything else. He doesn't write every day, and when he does, it's only to mention the specific things that tie directly to the plot and nothing else. Presuming that the character doesn't know what's needed for the plot, and that there are a lot of unnamed, everyday things going on in between, it loses some authenticity. This first-person narration is reminiscent of Lovecraft, but he was happy to have the narrator simply take us through the events, and didn't often rely on a gimmick like a journal. And he still had his characters relate things that were tangential to the main conflict, because that makes things realistic. They were important on that day, so he spoke of them. The fact that other things turned out to be more important in hindsight wouldn't have been known to him at the time. Where this really falls apart is the last entry. He wrote it while being pursued? I don't really see how he even had an opportunity to make that entry.

Next, horror is most effective when it's behind the scenes, affects the full spectrum of perception, and has a purpose. So, one at a time. Behind the scenes: Things are scarier when you don't see them. You actually did well with this—there's nothing blatant happening, so a lot is left to my imagination. However, in your climax, the faculty and students are all chasing the protagonist. You had this nice vague danger going on, and then things became a bit too concrete. The true force behind it all is still hidden, which is good, but that raises another issue. But first, the perception. It's too common to have horror focus on the visual, and to some degree, the auditory. Don't forget the wonderful mood-setting and eerieness you can achieve using touch, taste, and smell. Good horror makes a full assault on all the senses with subtle things that don't belong. And onto the third point, which pulls back the other issue I said I'd discuss in a moment. There needs to be a purpose. Having things hidden in the background is great, but that doesn't mean we should remain in the dark as to why things happen. We never get the slightest hint as to what is happening at this school. For all I know, they're covering for a meth lab. I have no sense of the nature of what's controlling everything, and I have no idea why this particular character was targeted. They sought him out as a math teacher. Why? Is that something they need? Or is he someone they wanted for another reason? When everything's aimless, it's like a random murder. While a horrible event, it lacks a sense of urgency.

Then, I'd urge you to provide me with more of an emotional response from our protagonist. He goes through these unsettling experiences, then rarely has little to say about how they made him feel, other than a token phrase. He's more concerned with listing facts and events. Now atmosphere can carry a story to some degree, and the aforementioned Lovecraft does have a tendency to create these rather stoic, detached narrators, and if that's really what you want to do , I can't say it's impossible. But you'd find it much easier to connect with a reader by doing so on an emotional level, rather than relying on the situation to carry the story by itself.

Finally, why is this a pony story? I could replace all of your characters with humans, make some extremely minor tweaks to the language, and we'd have a story that wasn't lacking in any context. A pony story should make use of the MLP universe in such a way that it's irrevocably (or at least by a substantial preponderance) rooted in that world. I have to say that this isn't tied into MLP strongly enough that I'd call it a no-doubt pony story.
>> No. 129224
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>he stammered//
It's generally best to avoid speech tags that are already evident from the speech itself. The one exception is "asked," since it's so common.

>Twilight's unwavering glare testing his resolve//
The story had seemed in Twilight's viewpoint until now, but the way this is phrased, it's not something she could know. You can make it something she knows by giving me the context she uses to draw that conclusion. By switching into the guard's perspective, you make the narrative choppy. They can be done, but have to be managed carefully. You should read the head-hopping section at the top of this thread.

>The guard looked around nervously.//
This is the first time I've caught you being telly, so maybe it's something you've got a good handle on, and if you don't do it much, it's okay. But you might need to read the show-versus-tell section at the top of this thread. Bottom line: I'd rather you paint a picture for me and get me to conclude he's nervous than just tell me that.

>your Highness//
The whole term is an honorific. Capitalize both words.

>the guard shook his head//
This is not a speaking action. It should be a separate sentence or paired with a speaking verb.

>Thank you for your time, guard//
The fact that she doesn't know his name makes her seem less than personable.

>The guard saluted and watched Twilight trot down the corridor.//
Now you're back in the guard's head again. It's only for one paragraph, and I don't get anything pertinent from it, so what's the point? It would help the story if you established a clear perspective.

>As she disappeared around a corner//
Missing a comma to set off this dependent clause.

>stepped aside to allow her access to the room//
This would work better if you had established their positions to start with. Now, I have to backtrack and place Luna in the doorway.

>elegantly//
There are a lot of ways this could look. Let me see what was in your head.

>Luna sat down on her haunches and watched as Twilight nervously chewed her lower lip, while counting the beads of sweat rolling down her brow.//
The last part is vaguely placed within the sentence. I can't tell who's sweating and who is counting.

>Twilight eventually broke the silence//
Again, this is not a speaking action.

>When I questioned him about it//
Another dependent clause that needs a comma.

>once straight//
This is used as a multi-word modifier, so hyphenate it.

>The battle was unfortunately lost and she chucked heartily//
See the section on comma usage with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>"Princess Celestia's own guards are using what could very well be a private nickname for her! Something needs to be done to stop them!"//
She sure is jumping to conclusions, especially given that Luna doesn't seem concerned.

>Choking back giggles she spoke as calmly as she could.//
This is a sentence fragment, and you haven't adopted a conversational tone for your narrator for which this would be appropriate.

>"That's exactly what I was thinking," Luna grinned.//
Those tags again. How do you grin a sentence?

>We will not let you down, you have our word.//
Comma splice. You have two sentences tacked together with a comma.

>Luna smiled at that//
Beware using demonstratives (this, that, these, those) as pronouns, since they have vague, broad antecedents and refer to the narration itself. Better to put an appropriate noun after it. The preceding couple lines of dialogue are also rather forced and unnatural. And finally, this is a very weak scene ending. It just kind of peters out without coming to any sort of conclusion or cliffhanger.

>Raising a forehoof//
Set off participial phrases with a comma.

>she knocked gently on the door a couple of times, and then pounded on it relentlessly//
Another "comma usage with conjunctions" problem, and we lack any context for why she changes her urgency here.

>The door was quickly opened, and a disgruntled Celestia//
There's no reason for the passive voice, and since this emotion is the crux of your story, I'd advise against bluntly telling it to me.

>mother or father gets you up, but since she's not here//
Mismatch (mother or father -> she) and missing comma.

>Twilight could only giggle in response as Luna continued her story.//
These very short scenes make the story choppy. If they're important, then make more happen in them, or they amount to little more than interruptions. If they're not important, then get rid of them.

>"My mind is racing with the many ways in which this could go wrong."//
Very unnatural dialogue.

>began its descent, paving the way for a new day to begin//
Watch word repetition within a close space.

>taking in a deep intake//
Redundant.

>she said sheepishly//
She just said something sheepishly a few paragraphs ago. And the deeper I get into the story, the more of these telly adverbs I see.

>"You will do... as... I... command!" She bellowed.//
Capitalization.

>Luna could only watch in silent awe as the sun slowly, and with some reluctance, began to make its ascent into the sky. Celestia continued to struggle as sweat gathered on her forehead, but she showed no signs of giving up the fight.//
You use quite a few of these "as" clauses. Particularly in places like this, where you have them in consecutive sentences, it can get repetitive.

>Luna rushed to her sisters side//
Missing apostrophe.

>Celestia looked at her flank, a crestfallen look//
More close repetition.

>her sisters face//
Another missing apostrophe.

>Perhaps your destiny was to get zapped by the sun and not raise it?//
I don't see how this explanation makes any more sense than assuming she got the nickname for raising the sun. Nothing about getting hit on the butt clicks as a more obvious explanation than simply being the location of her cutie mark. And you're not going to say why the sun did that? Luna does attempt a reason, but it's more whimsical and implies sentience on the sun's part, which is odd.

>I can only pray that she never finds out about the existence of 'Moonbutt'.//
Given that Luna knows why ponies assume Celestia is called Sunbutt, how can she not assume the same of herself?

>That is one particular tale that Celestia would be all too eager to tell.//
This doesn't quite fit with her "grumbling," since I can't see why it would make her angry.

Overall, there are a scattering of comma problems, invalid speaking verbs, and telly language that gets more prevalent the further I got into the story. The two absolute worst places to be telly are at the story's climax and at the beginning. At least you didn't so much at the beginning, which will help you snare more readers.

Second, you have a very inconsistent narrator. Having a truly objective one is fine, though it's often better in that case still to keep the viewpoint with a consistent character as much as possible, even if he doesn't adopt that character's voice and become more subjective. But your narrator keeps hovering over several characters and dipping lightly into their perspectives, which just ends up jerking the reader around.

Finally, this plays as a nice scene, but it's weak as a story. You don't play this information as any kind of conflict, and we don't see any character growth or get some insight into one of them as a result of reading it. Yes, Celestia has a minor struggle to get her cutie mark, but it's a foregone conclusion. So what is at stake exactly, and what bad thing would happen if the characters fail to achieve it. Or on the character side, how has one of them changed as a result of the experience?
>> No. 129232
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:

Why is this all in italics? I don't see the purpose. Italics make things stand out and if everything stands out, nothing does.

Story:

>When Fluttershy moved to stand up//
Needs a comma to set off the dependent clause.

>labcoat//
lab coat

>harsh chemical light//
That would be very unusual to have a chemical light, as they don't last very long. While I'd bet you meant that in a more figurative sense, it still struck me as odd.

>she pawed at the floor with one of her hooves, looking everywhere but at the strange stallion//
She hasn't gotten up yet, so how are her hooves on the ground? If she's seated, maybe a back hoof is, but "pawed" often connotes a forehoof. Also watch your misplaced modifiers, participles in particular. By their proximity, it sounds like the hooves are looking everywhere.

>tiled surfaces//
You already mentioned the "tiled walls." Watch the repetition.

>Don’t worry Fluttershy.//
Missing comma for direct address.

>her cheeks flushing red in embarrassment//
There's a section on show-versus-tell at the top of this thread, and it talks about this kind of telling. We already get embarrassment from the flushed cheeks. Telling us it's embarrassment is redundant and lacks any subtlety.

>“S-Sorry!” she apologized//
You only capitalize the first one, unless it's a proper noun. And it's best to avoid speaking verbs that are aready obvious from the speech itself, including such gems as "trailed off," "interrupted," "stammered," and "apologized" here. Notable exceptions are more common ones like "asked," "shouted," "yelled," and so on.

>He nodded in understand//
Verb form, but again, this is telly and unnecessary.

>off the floor//
Oh, okay. She was on the floor the whole time. The "pawing" thing makes more sense now (though I still think it's odd the have a hoof "paw"), but you should make her position clear much earlier in the story.

>She blinked at him a few times before smiling.//
A couple of things here. First, she goes through a lot of dialogue about her animals here, but aside from this little bit, you don't touch on how she feels about any of it. Is she saying it in a monotone, like it's all rote to her? Is she beaming and clutching her hooves to her chest like she's lost in a reverie? Is she frowning, like it's all become a chore? Get at her emotions. Second, your narrator had been down in Fluttersy's head before. He said things that only she knows internally, so he was in her mindset. Yet here, where she should be getting emotional, that narrator keeps a curious distance from her. It kind of left me scratching my head as to what you want this narrator to be. He's closely attached to her when the more mundane things happen, but backs away when emotions set in? You'd typically see the opposite, or else have him in her perspective constantly.

>hum of the air conditioning//
How does this feel? Fanfics too often focus only on what can be seen or heard. This would be a nice touch for one of the neglected senses.

>The cold, empty room//
If it's already cold, why is the air conditioning running?

>T-There//
Consider what sound would actually be repeated. Surely "Th-there." And again, only capitalize the first, unless there's some other reason the word would need to be capitalized. You do this a lot.

>She flinched. “Yes,” whispered Fluttershy, eyes clenched tight against the harsh memory.//
There you go. Now you're getting more at her emotions. Depending on what kind of narrator you want, you could even forge a closer connection by using some indirect thought.

>T-Then//
Th-then

>the steady click like a metronome underscoring Fluttershy’s muffled cries//
Here's another way to consider your narrative viewpoint. If the narrator is with Fluttershy, would she even notice this while she's "wracked with her violent sobs"? Possibly, but just mentioning it casually like this doesn't quite work. Consider how she'd perceive it.

>to scream at his uncaring tone, to berate him for showing no concern for those animals that had been murdered right in front of her//
See, you're decidedly in Fluttershy's head here. Yet she showed no such reaction when he said these things. We're getting it after the fact, which decouples it an distances the reader from your character's emotions.

>s-shut//
Last one I'm going to mark. A lot of your hyphenations need correction for capitalized letters and what the repeated sound would actually be.

>cold patch of numbness//
If it's numb, how does it feel cold?

>elements of harmony//
We usually see this capitalized, but it's your call.

>He froze still//
Redundant.

>She let herself lay back down on the tiles//
Confusion of "lay" and "lie."

> if I could just take nap//
Missing word.

>A pegasus by the name of…” He checked his notes. “Rainbow Dash?”//
What you've written here isn't wrong, but a more common way of having a narrative interruption in speech is like this:
A pegasus by the name of—” he checked his notes “—Rainbow Dash?”
Or have the dashes outside the quotes if the speech doesn't actually stop for the action.

>as her friend’s smiling visage filling her thoughts//
Verb form error.

>She spat out a something//
Syntax.

>He pressed himself up against wall she drew closer//
More syntax problems.

>a pneumatic sigh that was lost beneath the cacophony made by her hoof banging away on the polished steel//
Again, what's her perception? The narrator is in her head, so when you say she couldn't hear it, then the narrator can't, either.

Overall, the few consistent mechanical problems are actually easy fixes. Just mind what I said about your narrative voice. It really was distracting when you switched between objective and subjective viewpoints in a flash and in counterintuitive ways.

Now, I saw your big reveal coming a mile off, at least in a way. I wouldn't have been surprised to see her as a werewolf or zombie, either. It may be that you need to keep it hidden better, but that's a very subjective thing. No matter how well you obscure it, though, someone will just have a moment of insight or make a lucky guess, and maybe it's just my turn for that.

Lastly, something about Fluttershy's situation didn't ring true. By the plant matter that's part of her, I take it that the strange timberwolf didn't just start a new creature by attacking her, but actually incorporated itself into her. But what about it made her dominant? Before, it was more than just the wolf, but the whole acted like the wolf. Why did Fluttershy become the part in control? In some ways, both the wolf and Fluttershy acted not quite like themselves, like they were at least experiencing some influence from their other parts. Again, if the wolf was able to maintain control still, why not when Fluttershy was added? But more to the point, Fluttershy's lapses out of her normal mindset are quite vague. It might do better if she exhibited specific traits of her other parts at times, like she followed the thought processes of a wolf at one point, or briefly took on Applejack's voice. This would have to be managed carefully to keep it effective, of course, and would probably prevent you from hiding your reveal until late, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Keeping Dash and AJ out of it until near the end would be a good idea, but the rest could be played either way. This is not a requirement, of course—I'm just trying to brainstorm a bit to see what else might make this a more effective story.

Another tip for horror, and one I touched on already, is not to neglect any of the senses. Good horror also includes odd physical sensations, smells, tastes, things that are just a little out of place and getting consistently more unsettling.

This wasn't badly written; really, the narrative quirks and resulting emotional distance from Fluttershy were the big issues. Fix those up, and you could have a nice story here.
>> No. 129233
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>You might wanna call it a benefit//
It's generally not a good idea to address the reader, unless you're writing second-person.

>I jerk upright to great protest of my back.//
Missing word.

>Disoriented and confused//
Participles and participial phrases are usually set off with commas.

>all too familiar//
Hyphenate most multi-word phrases used as a single descriptor.

>After being done with my morning toilet//
British writer, I presume? This isn't a usage you hear much in American English, particularly not from a southerner like Applejack.

>living on Sweet Apple Acres
I've only ever seen this phrased with "in."

>It's the news: //
A fine point, but it's best to have a subjective narrator stick pretty close to the focus character's diction and intelligence level, and this is required for a first-person narrator. Bottom line: Applejack doesn't seem the type to use colons. A few wouldn't stick out much, but you use quite a few, relatively speaking, and it just creates a distance from the character, because it doesn't feel right for her.

>Flim Flam Brother's//
Brothers', yes?

>Anyway, the buffet is up and I get myself some cereal and a cup of coffee.//
See the section at the top of this thread on comma use with conjunctions.

>I just don't like them rolls they have here, I liked the ones we had back home better…//
Comma splice.

>cause//
Missing the leading apostrophe (and beware smart quotes, which will try to draw it in the wrong direction). I could see spelling it without the apostrophe if it was something she'd written, but you shouldn't assume the error in speech.

>Darn AJ,//
In the middle of a sentence, direct address requires commas on both sides.

>the big shed in the back of the building had blow over last night//
Verb form.

>Everytime//
In this usage, it should be two words.

>pouring over bills//
poring

>It's been laying here
Lay/lie confusion.

>handwriting//
Perhaps just call it writing or script instead of the more pony hoofwriting or mouthwriting.

>cutiemark crusader's//
Cutie Mark Crusaders'

>Me, wringing out my hair like a wet rag//
No reason to capitalize that.

>Big Mac leaning on a fence bathed in the light of an orange sundown, a straw casually hangin’ from his mouth, gazing into space.//
Participles are common violators of misplaced modifiers. They like to describe the nearest prior object, but take your "gazing into space" phrase. You have to wade back through "mouth" (which it would seem to modify), "straw," "sundown," "light," and "fence" before getting to the correct one. It's jus awkwardly placed.

>When I had a grip on myself again//
Another comma needed for a dependent clause.

>O.K.//
Spell out "okay."

>Zap apple//
If you're going to capitalize "Zap," you should probably do so with "apple" as well.

>taking the mickey out of//
Is this a British expression? I've never heard it before, but more to the point, it's not a southern one that Applejack could be expected to know.

>‘em//
I warned you about this once. The smart quotes have assumed something else and bent the apostrophe the wrong way. You have a number of these.

>on that picture//
in

>a sharp sting in my neck tells me he didn't like the angle I fell asleep in//
She refers to her neck as a "he"?

>lung full//
In this sense, "lungful."

>Back on Sweet Apple Acres//
More normal would be "at."

>slowlz//
Typo

>old chap//
Yeah, a southerner isn't going to say that.

>I didn’t notice I’ve been holding//
Just so you know, the "X I didn't even know I'd been Y-ing" is a very cliched phrasing.

I'm really on the fence about this. It's well-written, and a stark portrayal of someone feeling like she's outlived her usefulness. My only reservations are that it doesn't develop in any way. There's no conflict in the story and no character growth to speak of, the two standard ways of keeping up interest for the reader. We do gain some insight into Applejack, but it's a static thing. First off, that means it doesn't build to much of a climax. Particularly through the memories that Applejack goes through when looking at her photo album, we get more of an accounting of her life in list fashion. It's very factual. If she had more of an emotional response to each of these memories, it would connect the character and the reader better. As it is, it comes across fairly sterile. Second, what building it does just keeps ramping up the tragedy. This is what I refer to as "piling on." We begin with an elderly Applejack feeling sorry for herself. Then we get that she feels like a burden and a source of guilt for Twilight. Then we get a hint that Apple Bloom has some hidden regret about the situation, then we learn that Big Mac had a rather undignified fate, and end up with Applejack feeling suicidal. Things just keep getting worse. Sure some real-life situations are just like this. But not all, and not even most.

My advice on this front is twofold. Only include the amount of tragedy that you have to include. How much is necessary to get your point across and set up the plot? Use that and no more. Any needless tear-jerking you add on top of that is a pointless grab for the reader's heartstrings. Yes, it works on a fair number of readers, but it's not good practice, and those that can recognize it for what it is will often be resentful of the emotional manipulation. Is it necessary for Apple Bloom to harbor some hidden regrets? Is it necessary for Big Mac's life to follow that course? I don't think eliminating either one would alter the story appreciably. The other point, which is related, is that sadness works best by contrast. If you intersperse happy moments in the sad, then the sad stands out much more. You do go through some happy times in the photo album, but go back to my point about most of the story just being a slow escalation of tragedies. A reader gets numb to it. So instead of giving Big Mac yet another ugly turn, have Applejack rejoice in his pleasant waning years, for instance. It would also lend credence to her current state of despair that even those happy memories couldn't buoy her mood. Just a suggestion, but it illustrates my point.

Last edited at Tue, Dec 3rd, 2013 17:45

>> No. 129238
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

The synopsis is rather dull. It makes zero indication as to what the story is about.

The introduction is already striking me as odd. It plays at a frame story and addresses the reader directly.

>After all, I lived in a library for my whole life.//
Well, no, before he moved to Ponyville, he presumably lived in Twilight's room in the castle (though Faust's headcanon had him raised by Celestia for part of that time while Twilight was younger).

>That’s the name of my mother, by the way.//
This feels out of place in a written medium. It;s more the kind of thing he'd say in person, not write down once he's had time to collect his thoughts, so it comes across as inauthentic.

>Dragon eggs weren’t exact an easy resource to come by//
Typo.

>Most of my early years in Canterlot with her were spent helping her organize things, and keeping her company since her family couldn’t visit her often.//
See the section at the top of this thread on comma use with conjunctions. I saw a number of these throughout the story.

>Heh…//
Again, this comes across as weirdly informal for something that we know is recorded as a story.

>she was grateful to have somepony //
Fine point here, and I know he's used this term in canon, but since he's including himself, would he use the "pony" version, particularly considering that he's (presumably) quite a bit older now?

>half finished//
Hyphenate your multi-word terms that act as a single modifier. You do this several times.

>Twilight had giggled. I just refused to say anything//
Mixing tenses.

>sweating//
A reptile?

>Nothing’s wrong Twilight!//
Needs a comma for direct address.

>lept//
leapt

>lying in the corner//
You could just cut this "lying" out, particularly since you just used it very soon before, even though it was in a different sense.

>knowing that I had done wrong//
Most participles will be set off with a comma.

>or hours for teleportation//
How would that take hours?

>I was her closest and only friend after all.//
By now, I'm noticing that you use "after all" quite often.

>ordinary routine//
Somewhat redundant.

>For years I tried to get her to talk to ponies, trying to coax her to come to parties or hang out with some of my friends, but she always declined.//
Misplaced modifier. It sounds like "ponies" are trying to coax her. And repetition of "try."

>That was the day that I first discovered that//
Might want to rephrase. 3 instances of "that" in 9 words.

>That was why I was so excited when Princess Celestia gave her a new assignment as her star pupil: to go to Ponyville and make a few friends.//
Look how far the material after the colon is from what it's clarifying.

>R-rarity//
It's a proper noun, so both instances should be capitalized.

>“You didn’t want to crush me. I understand.” I stood up and simply shook my head, turning to leave. “Don’t worry, Rarity. I don’t hate you. I’m not even angry. I’m just thankful that you let me know.”
This situation is sure resolved quickly. You build it up as if it's some big thing, then it's over very quickly and with no fanfare. If he wants to brush it off because it's not the main point of what he has to say, fine, but he needs to indicate that, if it's the case.

>the Carousel Boutique//
You don't need "the" when using specific names. You go to the store, but you go to Wal-Mart.

>I just went straight to my bed and laid down//
Lay/lie confusion.

>Twilight would be right there//
How did Twilight not know that Rarity was already in a relationship? That's certainly the type of thing that girls share, and Rarity had no apparent motivation to keep it secret.

>her eyes shining with sadness, but also pride
I can give you a pass when Spike talks about himself this way. But it's a bad idea to have him be telly when he's speaking about other characters.

>hard working//
One word.

>gentlecoltly//
Again, this isn't a word I would typically think of as applied to a dragon. Yes, Twilight would be used to using this word, but I also think she'd be sensitive enough to have an awareness of it.

>animals, and Pinkie//
Extraneous space.

>Fluttershy had opened a clinic in Canterlot to help sick and injured animals//
Given that animals would be more prevalent in a rural area, why would she do this?

>if you’re a species that lives longer like I am//
It'd sound smoother if the "like referred to the thing closest to it ("lives longer," not "species"): if you’re a species that lives longer like I do.

>That’s probably the one that stands by the most.//
Did you mean "stands out"?

>Being forced to stop moving…//
I'm also going to say that all the ellipses also are out of place, since this is supposed to be something that Spike has written. They indicate half-formed thoughts that peter out, and while this occurs in conversation, a writer has as long as he likes to sort out what he wants to write. They can serve occasionally to imply further information, but they're really a spoken thing more than a written thing.

>Spikey wikey//
The whole thing's a nickname. Capitalize both words.

>She laid back//
Lay/lie confusion again. "Lie/lay/had lain" takes no direct object, "lay/laid/had laid" does take one. You lie down, and you lay your head down.

>trying to reach up and get something by her bedside, in the nightstand that lay next to her//
There's no reason for that comma.

>together, smiling and having fun together//
Repetitive.

>I figure it’s what she would have wanted.//
Really? Maybe it's just me, but I figure she'd want to go out in a spectacular crash while trying a very dangerous trick.

>And then Daring Do put her whip and hat on her coat rack, sitting on her office chair.//
Sounds like the coat rack is sitting on the chair.

>she laid there in her chair//
Lay/lie again.

>a clear night’s sky//
Just use "night."

Now for a session of point/counterpoint.

Against your story is that it's a pretty common setup, particularly since it goes through the deaths of all 6 friends, even though it only lingers on two of them. It's become somewhat of a cliche to include all six and give special weight to the last of the group. It's also a bit weak on the conflict/growth front. There's no make-or-break moment where Spike must make a decision that will affect his future. There's nothing at stake. We don't see anything fundamental change about him as a character.

For your story is that you barely mentioned four of the deaths, so it's not an ad nauseam collation of their final moments. The writing is pretty good, and you actually have a good setup for a decisive moment on Spike's part. Ask yourself: What about Twilight's death changes Spike? Show the after in stark contrast to the before, when he comes to some realization. He does have a subtle one, choosing to be happy about the time he shared with them. And then you mention subsequent Elements. Did he befriend them all? And what does he do with this newfound happiness? Volunteer as a docent at their memorials so he can teach generations about their accomplishments? Read Daring Do stories to children at the library? This probably isn't the kind of story that will show clear conflict, but I'd like to see something along the lines of concrete character growth.

Lastly, I'll reiterate the issue of the narrator's voice, insofar as this is supposed to be something Spike has written. It relies on a lot of conversational conceits, and thus loses the feel of something he's taken the time to write. It may actually be wiser to remove that and just have him narrate as if he's speaking, but then it'd be more important not to have him address the reader.

There were certain words I saw turn up a lot. "Sad" made 18 entries, which doesn't sound like a lot, but if you look at where they occur, you use them in clumps, which only makes them sound more repetitive. "That" appears 130 times. It really stuck out, and suggests you're relying on its use as the start of noun clauses too much and using repetitive sentence formulations as a result. It's actually quite common to remove it as a conjunction leading off a noun clause, so you could take care of a fair number that way. "Was" shows up 114 times, and I suspect other forms of that verb also make themselves known frequently. That's a verb writers can stand to do without, to a large degree. There are 38 instances of "just," and like "sad," they tend to occur in clumps.
>> No. 129239
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:

>ever now and then//
Typo.

Story:

Your opening scene needs help. Having the narrator barge in and summarize the situation very quickly externalizes the reader from forming a connection with Twilight. You need to do a better job of grabbing the reader's interest than this. Go right into the dream. Make it immediately obvious that it is one, since you're not trying to play it as ambiguous, but the "hey, this is happening" followed by it actually happening is just throwing a needless speed bump in there.

>terrified sweat//
I see what you're going for, but it ends up personifying the sweat, and it just sounds weird.

>This is impossible! Nopony could possibly do this!
Redundant.

>scrutinizing look//
Describe it. Now is not the time to be telly. Twilight's perception at this moment is a severe source of stress for her, and she'd take great notice of how they regard her. Shortening all that to "scrutinizing" cheapens it.

>the chance to attempt such an opportunity//
Redundant language.

>with sadness//
See the section on telly language at the top of this thread. This is a particular kind of phrasing that is rarely necessary.

>She felt her horn light up and felt//
Repetitive phrasing.

>blood vessels in her face starting to light up//
Given that the story is from her viewpoint, how would she know this? Not to mention that it's kind of weird anyway.

>bottom thirtieth//
That's an awfully precise judgment to make, considering that it's far from the foremost thing on her mind.

>yet, you cannot even perform//
Commas after conjunctions are rarely correct. This one is not.

>Celestia’s School For Gifted and Talented Unicorns//
I don't believe the canon name has "and Talented" in it.

>signalling for her to leave//
This is unnecessary information that the reader can already figure out.

>Celestia barely even payed attention to Twilight//
Using "payed" instead of "paid" is typical of a specific definition of the word which you aren't using.

>seemingly annoyed//
How does Twilight conclude this?

>then-//
Use a proper em dash for cutoffs.

>Twilight was cut off//
No need for passive voice, and the "cut off" is redundant with what we can already see in the quote.

>to signify an order to be silent//
More language that is redundant. These meaningless phrases smack of strecthing for word count, which, considering how long the story is, could well be precisely what you were doing.

>nodded in agreement//
More redundant phrasing.

>The door burst open as her father charged in, scanning the room for any immediate signs of danger.//
Note that participles and "as" clauses synchronize actions, so all three of these things happen simultaneously. The first two, I could see, or the last two, but not all three. He's not scanning the room until after the door bursts open.

>beddings//
bedding

>Twilight shook her head to relieve herself of the shock of her father bursting into her room.//
Repetitive language, and more questionable content that the reader could have been left to intuit.

>E-everything’s fine dad//
Missing comma for direct address, and when using it as a term of address or reference, capitalize "Dad." Watch for other similar instances of "Mom" and "Dad."

>he could see her face clearly. He could see//
Repetitive language.

>Her father took a seat on the bed next to her, smiling softly.//
I bet you want the father to b smiling softly, but this tends to say she was.

>Twilight shifted and her features twisted into a grimace//
Missing comma. See the section at the top of this thread on comma use with conjunctions.

Her father's inner monologue here is obviously a change in perspective. I don't see that it accomplishes anything. What does he reveal that's new or critical to the story? Shifting point of view is always a disorienting thing, so a writer must always judge whether the gains are greater than the losses. I don't think there's anything gained here.

>surprising him a bit//
This is still in his perspective. Especially in a story this short, you really shouldn't be jumping around to different characters without a very good reason.

>over take//
One word.

>You’ve done excellently in everything you’ve put your hoof too.//
To/too confusion.

>And you’ve made us so proud.”//
When one paragraph ends while still in a quote, and the next one starts with speech from the same character, you can leave off the closing quotation marks from the first paragraph.

>Twilight giggled and climbed back down onto the bed.//
Fourth straight paragraph that's started with "Twilight."

There is a notable lack of character growth or conflict here. Twilight experiences a very common and mundane bout of self-doubt. It's just a very pat piece, and one that plays more as a scene than a story. While pleasant enough, it's not really a well-developed thing. What changes about Twilight? How is she different for the experience? There's nothing here. Rather than go on about stylistic things, I'll just say that this needs to be something with a lot more meat to it before we could post it.
>> No. 129243
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>The storm clouds over Ponyville parted with a flash of lightning and a peal of thunder.//
Do you realize how close this is to "It was a dark and stormy night"?

>It was pulled by a duo of armored, bat-winged pegasi//
I don't see the need for passive voice here. It transfers the focus onto the chariot or the action, neither of which is interesting. Let the batponies carry the focus.

>Carnival games and food stands were set up all throughout the streets, and a silver and blue flag adorned with a crescent moon waved proudly atop the Town Hall.//
I'm seeing an awful lot of "to be" verbs so far. They're inherently boring. It's much more interesting to read about what happens not what is. Compare your two clauses here. The secon uses an active verb (waved) that makes it a more vivid read. I'm still getting a lot of passive voice, though.

>thump//
No need to italicize this as a sound effect. It's a valid word. Just leave it alone.

>Luna released the concealing shadows, flying out of the chariot//
Watch for misplaced modifiers, particularly participles. It sounds like the shadows are flying out of the chariot.

>returned, and the moonlight gently faded away. Luna’s eyes returned//
Watch repetition of words in a close space.

>And finally we get some kind of emotional reaction from Luna. She'd been awfully stoic up until now. You might want to bring in this aspect earlier, maybe her apprehension at how she would be received. The sooner you can make that emotional connection with a reader, the sooner you can grab his interest.

>thousand year-old//
Hyphenate the whole thing.

>Luna landed gracefully on the ground.//
The "on the ground" part is useless filler. Since the narrator is in Luna's perspective, it's odd for her to judge the landing as graceful herself. Perhaps just give me a few of her actions and their intent rather than have her draw the conclusion for me.

>heard several sighs of audible relief.//
First, these "with/of/in emotion" phrases are almost always telly and redundant with something already in the sentence Second, if she heard it, then you don't need to tell me it's audible.

>to not be//
I'm more of a stickler for split infinitives than most. While I'll still let many slide, these "not" ones are just so grating. "not to be"

>Luna mingled with the crowd for a few minutes, exchanging pleasantries and providing advice and blessings as royals are wont to do. However, her eyes kept scanning the crowd//
Repetition of "crowd."

>‘Twould//
Your smart quotes have given you an open quotation mark instead of an apostrophe. I suspect there are more of these; you'll have to find them and force them the other way.

>Luna shook her head in amusement.//
Another one of these redundant "in emotion" phrases.

>decorations of the transformed Ponyville.
>
>It was clear that the town had pulled out all the stops. Every building was adorned with various decorations
More repetition.

>haybales//
hay bales

>Low hanging//
Hyphenate your compound descriptors. I've seen a few of these.

>S-So//
Unless it's a proper noun, only capitalize the first part of a stutter.

>Twilight said with a stutter//
And there's no need to point out the stutter when we already saw it in the speech.

>damper//
You sure you didn't mean "dampen"? Damper is only a noun.

>Luna's tone gained a bitter tinge//
Given that she holds the perspective, it's odd for her to get at the bitterness indirectly through her tone or even notice it there.

>“I can... ”//
Extraneous space.

>T-Thank//
Consider what sound would actually be repeated. "Th-thank"

>It was probably just that Twilight was a tad absentminded, and tended to turn inward for her reflections.//
See the section on at the top of this thread on comma use with conjunctions.

>Passersby stopped to gawk as they went, their faces were filled with awe and excitement.//
You've either got a comma splice there, or you've inserted an extraneous word into the second part that was supposed to be an absolute phrase.

>dings!//
Yeah, axe the sound effects.

>One-hundred eighty//
No hyphen.

>figid//
Typo.

>but however//
Redundant.

>laser-like//
So... ponies know what lasers are?

>Princess Celestia laid comfortably on her favorite silk pillow//
Lay/lie confusion.

>pulled a toffee out a small candy bag//
Missing word.

>and who know?//
Verb form.

>The symptoms are all there: Lapses in awareness, physical fatigue, a primal, almost magnetic attraction to darkness, and spiritual deterioration.//
Only capitalize after a colon if it refers to multiple sentences.

>The two of them had relocated to the balcony connected to the study.//
This is a really odd transition. Just tell me when they walk out there. Don't have it happen but hold back on telling me until after the fact.

>Her face quickly fell back into a morose melancholy//
Watch the telling. Better to describe how she looks in more basic terms and let the reader decode how she feels from it. There's a section on this at the top of the thread, too. Some telliness is fine, but we're at a pretty critical part of the story here.

>She stood there with her jaw hanging open for a few seconds while Luna stood there//
More repetition.

>She turned away to glower at nothing in particular//
Watch the head-hopping. This scene had been in Luna's perspective, but only Celestia would characterize it as "nothing in particular."

>ONLY//
Except in cases of Royal Canterlot Voice, italics are preferred for emphasis.

>I’m okay with that, but then that’s the only time you can do it. Fair?//
This is incredibly petty and narrow-minded of her, given that they're discussing the health of their subjects and that ceding to Luna on this matter is probably to everyone's benefit.

>Celestia rubbed the bridge of her nose.//
Do ponies even have this? You might better just characterize it as rubbing between her eyes.

>Celestia ignited another fire beside herself to keep warm.//
They're still out on the balcony. There's a facility out there for this?

>Celestia blinked. “As in, right here, right now?”//
This is now the eighth paragraph in a row that goes: <Short simple sentence with a token action. Speech.> It's really getting a plodding feel, like I'm reading a list.

>you’re going to be leaving your body behind, aren’t you? //
This necessarily begins a new sentence—it couldn't follow syntactically from the first. Capitalize.

>I can only hope that one day I’ll find a way to make it up to you.//
This is awfullt rushed, and an odd time to bring it up. It might be worth getting at her motivation for saying this or drawing it out a bit so it's not so sudden. It smacks of going for a needless emotional reaction from the reader that's tangential at best to the story.

>rebooted//
Another word choice that's questionable as part of the pony lexicon.

>experimentation//
Used that twice within a few sentences.

>into the city of Canterlot beyond. She called upon the power of the Garden and stretched herself out even farther, extending past the city, out into the valley beyond//
Even more repetition.

>The damage of being exposed to a thousand years of light//
Are you saying the effects are cumulative over generations? Because you just mentioned that she's gathering those less than three years old, so they don't have a thousand years of exposure... only three. Even the adults would only have some small finite length as well.

A word about song lyrics. Some readers simply skip them as a rule. I give them a chance, but I stop if I see that they're not bearing any of the plot. Unless there's something critical in them, like a song that gives Twilight a clue to the location of an artifact, for instance, they don't serve much purpose. Aside from a bit of needless mood-setting, I can't say these add anything.

>enormous, teal//
These are hierarchical adjectives and don't need a comma between them.

>face-to-face//
When used in a manner like this, where it doesn't precede its object (you're using it as a predicate adjective), you don't need the hyphens.

>“I am your Princess.”//
It looks like your open quotes are in normal font, while the close quotes are in italics. You do this multiple times.

>The children weren't as bright as they once were anymore. Their outlines were faint, and their eyes were half-lidded with dreamy looks on their faces. Luna wished she could keep them here longer, to share with them the true wonders and beauty of the night, but they foals were too impressionable. She welcomed those who had an affinity for darkness, yes, but too much of it would be just as much of a problem as an overabundance of light.//
I've gone through dozens of sentences in this area and only counted two that didn't start with the subject. This part of the story really needs some variety in sentence structure, but don't go overboard with it. A little here and there works wonders.

>but they foals were too impressionable//
Typo.

>split throughout the sky like a meteor shower//
Actually, a meteor shower is pretty organized. The meteors all emanate from a common spot and all move in the same direction.

>but if nothing else, then they’ll just need the same treatment as the adults.//
Get rid of that "then."

>Celestia defended//
Questionable choice of speaking verb. It takes a direct object, but that object is the thing being defended, not the words that do so.

>They may want to go back If they were to have any memories of it//
Extraneous capitalization.

>Twenty Five Years Later-//
Surely there's a less blunt instrument you can use than this. Work it into the narration, have it revealed in some dialogue, etc.

>long tonight due to things starting with an unnaturally long//
Repetition.

>Minute’s widened.//
Missing word.

>Things had gone well over the last two and a half decades//
See? You did it nicely there. Now you don't need that obtrusive opening line for this scene.

>She had her own Realm now//
That's a rather teasing thing to insinuate without explaining anything.

>Luna was grateful//
Start here and scroll back up a bit. Note how repetitive the first words of each paragraph are.

>She was just glad that there hadn't been any lasting effects, a shift in either direction could cause ponykind to descend into madness.//
Comma splice.

>“W—Where....”//
Again, consider what sound would actually be repeated (wh-where). You also need a hyphen for the stutter, not a dash, and you have one too many dots in the ellipsis.

Nice story, but you might want to allow Luna a bit more of an emotional response, if only internally. She's bordering on stoic about it, and if she were more touched by the remembrance of the song, it might carry more power. Now I do see that the song comes in important, but note that only a small part of it is, and only the fact that it was remembered, not the words themselves. At least the remembered part is short enough that readers will probably stick with it, so I'd encourage you to limit it to that and gloss over the rest of it as Luna continuing to sing.

The only other thing I'd point out is the sheer amount of repetition: Sentence after sentence with the same structure, several paragraphs in a row starting with the same thing, repeated use of words and phrases in a close space without a thematic reason for doing so. I've also pointed out the specific example of "to be." Just looking for the most common forms, I counted over 200. That is incredibly high. I pointed out one sentence where you used that verb unnecessarily in one clause, then picked an action verb in the other clause where you could have been lazy and used another "to be" verb. It causes several problems: overuse of passive voice (somewhat of a problem here), telly language (again, some), and a need for more active verb choice (this is the main one). Keep an eye out for these verbs as you read back through and eliminate a bunch of these. It's impractical to go without them entirely, but you should have no trouble getting rid of the majority of them.
>> No. 129245
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>I was found in the woods as a foal//
What was that scene break for? You didn't change perspective, time, or location. Cadance is still right there talking to Shining Armor, and weirdly waffling back and forth between narrating and speaking.

>before-//
Please use a proper dash for interruptions.

>She cast a spell that drained the warm feelings of the villagers in an empty attempt to fill the void in her heart.//
So... she's a changeling?

>You can't do this!//
As this is the first piece of dialogue, you should identify the speaker with a speech tag. You can settle into going without tags later, once we've gotten accustomed to the various characters' voices.

>"No time to waste, then. I shall begin immediately."//
That's awfully florid language for one who warrants being addressed as "child."

>not the imposing structure of stone and wood suspended from an overgrown grove of trees entwined together I found before me//
This is a very winding sentence that changes focus so many times that it just comes across as a jumble. If these are all ideas worth mentioning, you could stand to do so over a few sentences.

>"So I'm going to be your friend."//
This whole exchange is very forced. She's already decided sight-unseen to befriend this mare? It's going to take a little more of her internal reasoning to get me there. Otherwise it just ends up as this incongruous mix of naivete and very mature vocabulary.

>I could tell I struck a nerve, though she tried not to let it show.//
For the previous dozen or so paragraphs, I've gotten barely three character actions. Have a look at the section on Talking Heads at the top of this thread.

>my fear that what happened next//
This is an odd juxtaposition, given that she just told Prismia that was her fear, and I doubt you did this intentionally, since you're not making a point from it.

>After the mob is through with me, you should go back to them. Don't throw your life away over three days with an unlovable monster.//
That's a very abrupt change of heart. And given that it's a main point of the story, it's not helping you to gloss over it all. Let me see a more gradual transformation.

>The flames spread like-//
Use a proper dash for asides, too.

>-- not that it was literally a room, but close enough,//
Again use a proper dash, and pair it with one at the end of the aside.

>your majesty//
Capitalize the honorific.

>Aunt Tia grinned slyly.//
You're really wavering between flashback mode and having present-day Cadance narrate. It's disorienting. Here, she's at least working more in flashback mode, when she wouldn't refer to Celestia as such.

So you framed the story as Cadance talking to Shining Armor, then went into the flashback with a scene break, waffled on whether it was actually being presented as a flashback, then went back to Shining Armor without a scene break. It's just very... inconsistent.

Cadance also concentrates so much on what happens at the expense of how any of it made her feel. This is an amazing experience, and yet it all comes across very factually, as if she's reading a lab report.

That's really the big overall advice I have, since it's the elephant in the room that needs to be addressed before ironing out the details: find a consistent narrative voice and forge a much more emotional connection between Cadance and the reader so that he cares what happens to her. The story is really all about the emotions of this experience; Shining Armor doesn't seem particularly interested, and the outcome is already known, so conveying her personal experience is the only thing left, and it does that in a fairly cold manner.

Last edited at Mon, Dec 2nd, 2013 21:48

>> No. 129253
>>129233

First off, thank you for the detailed review. It's incredibly valuable to me.

I won't comment on the mechanical things and simply fix them. Since you wondered, though: I'm not British, but German.

You're right that the story lacks conflict and character growth. It's more an emotional picture than a story, really. This is wanted, though; AJ's life is static, and it is the lack of conflict/progression that breaks her. Some sort of character growth in the timespan of a single day would be unrealistic, and a longer timespan would break the concept. I'm pretty lost on how to fix this.

Thanks for making me aware of the "piling on" issue. I've had someone comment before that the story felt too manipulative, which made him shield himself from the emotions. I didn't heed his words then, but having it spelled out here certainly made me see the point. I guess I wanted to cram in too much. Dementia and only living through your progeny are old-people-problems, too... I tried to include some happy memories as counterbalance, but all that is heavily outweighed by bad-ends. I'll work it over.
>> No. 129254
>>129253
Even though we're only with AJ for one day, that doesn't mean you can't grow her or give us some insight into her character. The AJ we get at the end of the story is the exact same one we have at the beginning. Aside from finding out why she's sad, there's not much point in reading. Let us learn something surprising about her. Let her come to an important realization about herself. Let her come to a turning point and make a decision. Something.

Not that you can't have a story like this that has a thin plot, but they're difficult to do well.
>> No. 129263
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:

This needs a ton of help. Your first bit tells us this story's relation to another. Move that to the end, and put it in a separate paragraph. Next, we get a sentence the twist and winds so much that it loses focus. We have <Adverbial prepositional phrase>, <another adverbial prepositional phrase>, <subject>, <appositive>, <second item in list>, <third item in list>, <predicate>, <appositive with its own internal comma>. Seven commas in one sentence. You're making it do too much. Please write out the number, and it's not necessary to capitalize after the colon, since it doesn't refer to multiple sentences. Then finally, we get teo sentences that address the reader (you). They can be tricky to avoid, but it is possible.

Story:

That first paragraph really doesn't accomplish anything. It speaks in bland generalities and doesn't get to the point.

I'm only a couple of paragraphs in and I'm already noting the number of colons. It's not that they're misused; it's that there are so many that it feels unnatural. You don't want the writing calling attention to itself, and this is one thing that will do it: overusing unusual punctuation or language. Now that I look, there are only three colons in the text, but guess what? They're all within the first four paragraphs. That's setting an initial impression that you don't want.

>The shining streets were bustling with commotion and activity. Street venders and activities at every corner visited by the crystal ponies who, on this day, seemed to shine a little brighter than usual.//
Passive voice is often a bad choice, but pasrticularly so early in the story, where you need action to grab the reader's interest. That second sentence is incomplete as well, and oddly so. You're not taking a conversational tone, and I don't see a thematic reason for it.

>the largest crowds were not visiting flugelhorn or hatstands, or even watching the jousts. Rather, it was the newscolts who attracted the largest crowds.//
Watch for close repetition of words and phrases. You've reused "the largest crowds" here for no apparent stylistic reason.

>One-hundred//
Hyphens only go between the tens and ones words. Twenty-three, eighty-six thousand, four hundred sixty-one.

>a dark, a robed figure//
Extraneous word.

>The figure moved to the thinnest part of the crowd//
This is the seventh instance of "crowd" in the last five paragraphs.

>adorned in brown vestiges contrary towards it’s onyx-colored counterpart//
This is horribly contorted. First, I don't think "vestige" is the word you want here. Perhaps "vestments"? You've confused "it's" with "its," and your language of "contrary... counterpart" is fairly redundant. Furthermore how does brown contrast with onyx? Much onyx is brown, and onyx is preferably in high contrast to itself anyway, mixing a light hue with a dark one, so in contrast to contrast is... bland?

>The slender cloaked pony raised a hoof, carefully pulling back the hood of the cloak revealing a white face, a horn, and a few locks of her long, scarlet mane protruding from the shadows of her attire, her purple eyes glistening just as brightly as her crystal coat.//
Another sentence that rambles on so long that it loses focus. It goes from the pony to the cloak to a number of her features to her cloak again to her features again. If these are all truly important, they deserve to be digested in smaller chunks. You also use three participles in the sentence. Repetition of structure is as bad as repetition of words.

>casted//
cast

>horrendous//
Now you need to be careful with your narrative voice. Who is making this judgment? The narrator isn't in any character's perspective, so he's essentially telling me this is how I should feel about them, but I don't have any evidence to agree with him.

>After the attack I was so worried, I know you live near the outskirts so I would’ve come//
That comma is a splice, and you're missing one later in the sentence. See the section at the top of this thread on comma use with conjunctions.

>placed a hoof towards//
"Place" connotes setting something still, but "towards" indicates motion. This doesn't fit.

>Jokes. She wasn’t exactly a fan of this stallion’s humor, and right now certainly was not a time for joking. This was the greatest disaster which the empire had seen since the second age!//
Way too abrupt. You have to ease through transitions of perspective. Your narrator has been objective so far, and without any warning, we're pushed very deep into her thoughts. It's jarring. You have to do these things smoothly. As the only established perspective, this also suggests she's the one making the judgment of "horrendous" earlier, but we know that's not the case.

>She was at a loss for words.//
You don't need to narrate what's already apparent from the speech.

>Woah//
Why can nobody ever spell this right? Whoa.

And now we're tossed into his perspective. See the section at the top of this thread on head-hopping.

>city state//
city-state

>then," he turned to the mare, "Gloriana//
That's not how to punctuate a narrative aside in a quote.
then—" he turned to the mare "—Gloriana

>Gloriana put a hoof to Somber’s horn, pushing him back, nearly causing him to lose his balance as he clumsily regained his hoofing.//
Note that participles and "as" or "while" clauses synchronize actions, so the "put," "pushing," "causing," and "regained" all happen at the same time. That doesn't work.

>and bitterly added//
I'm seeing a lot of these -ly adverbs. Some are okay, but it doesn't take many to make the story telly. See the section at the top of this thread on show versus tell. To paraphrase, I have no indication of her mood here except for that one word. It's better to get me to interpret her mood through details of how she looks and acts, and what inflections she makes in her speech. Show me what and observer would note about her, not what conclusions he would draw from what he sees.

>Somber couldn’t help but laugh at her plight//
Missing end punctuation.

>Nobles were notorious for never being able to swallow their pride, and even Gloriana was no exception.//
This is a rather subjective statement, but I have no idea who holds the perspective here, so I don't know whose opinion it is. It's a fine point, but if you instead phrase it as "The populace commonly considered nobles to be notorious..." then you've changed it from the narrator's opinion to a statement of fact.

>“It’s okay” he assured her.//
Dialogue punctuation.

>Stallion//
Why is this capitalized?

>I'll get to you throughPalace garden.//
Something's clearly messed up.

>She lied down//
Lay/lie confusion. Actually, it's confusion of two different meanings of "lie."

>her armed held//
Typo, and... she has an arm?

>I must be insane for leaving behind any more nights like this....
A four-dot ellipsis is typical for formal writing, but it's unusual to see in fiction.

>He looked down at Gloriana, sliding out from underneath her grasp.//
Another thing to watch with participles: they're common candidates for misplaced modifiers. Due to their proximity, it sounds like Gloriana is the one "sliding."

>With that//
Phrases like this and "at that point" are horribly self-referential to the narration.

>he carefully trotted to the window, undoing the latch.//
Here's another example of a synchronization issue. He can't undo the latch at the same time he's trotting to the window, unless you want to add some language to say he's doing it with his magic.

>Camp Spyrius//
Another one of these oddly off-putting introductions.

>cyan coated//
You've done pretty well with hyphenating your compound descriptors, so this may just be an oversight.

>the shine of his coat dimmed from exhaustion and perspiration//
Wouldn't perspiration increase the shine?

>The unicorn smugly replied “Well isn’t that a first?”//
Another dialogue punctuation error. There's a section on this at the top of the thread.

>trying as he tried//
Looks like you changed your mind and forgot to delete the loser.

>but--//
Looks like you missed one of these.

>turning to lay down//
Lay/lie confusion.

>?’.//
Doubled end punctuation.

>being a unicorn and all//
You'd capitalized "unicorn" in chapter 1. Be consistent.

>‘em//
Your smart quotes have made the apostrophe backward.

>The cyan stallion//
You're using this phrase quite a lot. See the section at the top of this thread on Lavender Unicorn Syndrome.

>half-heartedly//
halfheartedly

>the atmosphere of the camp was filled with fear; the fear of certain death.//
Misused semicolon. There's no independent clause anywhere after it.

>little more than police officers, and with the low crime rate they did little more than//
Repetition.

>three-dozen//
No reason to hyphenate that.

The writing here was mostly good. The dialogue was well done, and while the narration had a few nice turns of phrase, it felt stiff and unnatural in places. The story itself is fine—it's more that there are so many of these niggling errors. I'd say the two major ones are the flighty narrator and the overabundance of participial phrases, sometimes several in one sentence, which can also cause timing problems and be misplaced modifiers.
>> No. 129270
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Applejack stares up into the azure sea searching for just one single nimbus; a beacon of hope to light the fetid dark disaster of her wilting crop.//
Participial phrases ("searching for just one single nimbus") are normally set off with commas. Furthermore, they're prime candidates for misplaced modifiers. Due to its placement in the sentence, it sounds like the "azure sea" is searching, not Applejack. Finally, the semicolon is misused; there is no independent clause anywhere after it.

>if just a few trees could survive this terrible drought//
Given that the weather over Sweet Apple Acres is controlled by pegasi, why would they have let it get this bad? It bears some explanation.

>The leaves have long ago lost their luscious hues and all about reeks with the silent air of decay.//
See the section at the top of this thread on comma use with conjunctions.

>An’ plenty of it.//
Here's your problem with Applejack's section in a nutshell. If you'd kept the narrator completely objective, I could have at least understood the desire to write in this purple a fashion. But you had the narrator himself delve into her thoughts and present them as his own, and especially here, where you even have him take on her voice. It's a good idea anyway to have a narrator adopt the focus character's general word choice and intelligence level when being subjectively in that character's viewpoint, but especially when you effectively make that character the narrator. In short, this section is supposed to be Applejack communicating her thoughts to me, but it sounds nothing like her. Pinkie was marginally better, and Dash's daytime section was actually convincing. Rarity's and Twilight's parts fit them well enough.

>She has to water the trees, the crop, she cannot spare long from their side, only long enough to sleep a couple of hours//
Comma splices abound. I can appreciate taking some artistic license in ignoring grammatical rules, but they have to be for a purpose. I don't see one here. Rambling on like this tends to communicate that a character is becoming unfocused or upset, and while I can believe she would be, given the situation, there's nothing in the narration to indicate she feels that way. Convince me that she's feeling desperate, and this kind of speech might flow more naturally.

>But...there were normally orders, orders for her scrim-scrumptious sweetastic treats...nopony seemed hungerful in this silly-solly heatwave...still, it can’t hurt to keep plenty of fantastic delights on the go, just in case...just in case somepony comes in; it doesn’t do to have a happy shop short of munchables.//
This is just too much. You have at least four sentences shoved together with ellipses in what seems to be attempting a deep stream-of-consciousness style (which you also tried at the end of Applejack's part in an odd switch of tactics) that's difficult to pull off and keep interesting. Word to the wise: many readers find this irritating.

>door - the stench//
Please use proper dashes.

>why can’t you help them Fluttershy?//
Missing comma for direct address.

>The fire crackles mirthlessly as the shadows pressed//
Verb tense inconsistency.

>to say: “you are nothing.//
Missed capitalization.

>‘cause//
Smart quotes always draw leading apostrophes in the wrong direction. You'll have to force it. There's more than one of these.

>She can’t stop looking, so she looks at the fire...try not to close your eyes, just keep looking, got to keep looking.//
See, this is another dissonance you have going with your narrator. You switch between indirect and direct though in a single sentence, yet you don't punctuate or italicize the latter as such.

>so inspiring!!//
A single exclamation mark will do nicely.

>Sigh.//
The way you have it, she actually thinks this word instead of doing it.

>being the only other unicorn, Rarity is the node of correspondence//
Why would this be the case? Twilight has never shown a preference for unicorns.

I'll be the first to admit that I can be dense about reading between the lines, but here's what I got from your story:

Everyone misses Twilight, and it's sending a ripple effect through Ponyville. Dash can't force herself to do her weather job, either through missing Twilight or wondering what happened to Rarity. The resulting heat wave is keeping anyone from being interested in buying from Pinkie, ruining the crops at Sweet Apple Acres, and driving Fluttershy's animals to seek other dangerous food sources once their normal ones died off.

This requires a lot of suspension of disbelief. First, Rarity's fate is entirely tangential to all this. Who kidnapped her, why has there been no ransom demand, why hasn't Twilight tried corresponding with anyone but her...? When Dash's irresponsibility is severely affecting the livelihood of an entire town, why has nobody stepped in to figure out why and do something about it? Canterlot would really be so blind to as to what's going on in Ponyville? That's horribly irresponsible governing.

I've touched on the narrative voice. It's unnecessarily purple, particularly for characters that I could never envision thinking in those terms. It creates a huge distance between the character and the reader, particularly since much of this narration is in a highly personal viewpoint for each of them. That connection with the characters is what keeps the reader interested. Here, I see the events unfold, but it doesn't make me care what happens for their sake. When canon Dash thinks "tenacity" is a sneeze, yet you have her using words like "mirthlessly," all I can think is that this isn't Dash.

The stream-of-consciousness style was also off-putting, as only Fluttershy's section placed her in a situation where she would be speaing more off-the-cuff, without time to organize her thoughts. It became irritating to read, and the overabundance of ellipses stringing together multiple sentences into one detracted from the readability in an unjustified way, in my opinion.

Lastly, besides the bit I think I discerned from reading between the lines, anything of the plot from this story has already occurred. In the story itself, nothing happens. It's just a parade of each of the main characters lamenting their current situation. There's also the concept of "piling on." Sadness works best in contrast. If you just have sad after sad after sad, it diminishes the impact of the whole thing. In your favor, Twilight wasn't down, and Pinkie kept a positive attitude, but those weren't actually happy events; Pinkie was just exercising mood control, and Twilight was merely ignorant of the situation. What's at stake in the story that leads to a resolution? What characters deal with a challenge and change or give us insight into them as a result? This plays as a fair enough series of scenes, but not so much as a story.
>> No. 129276
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:

>Hearths Warming Tree//
Hearth's Warming. And why is "Tree" capitalized?

Story:

>Rainbow Dash wheeled through the air above the Everfree Forest, sending up light flurries of fresh snow in her wake.//
This one isn't too bad, but this is something you need to keep in mind as a writer. Participles like to modify the nearest prior object (unless they start a clause—then, the subject). So it sounds like the forest is sending up flurries. We can apply a bit of logic to sort things out, but if you don't watch yourself, you will eventually end up saying something that is misleading or ambiguous.

>so the melted snow wouldn’t ruin it//
Wait, what's melting the snow? When Dash flew by, the snow didn't drip down—it drifted. Besides, melting snow wouldn't ruin her hat. Its function is to shield her from the weather, so it's perfectly capable of getting wet. If it was that much of a problem, why did she wear it out in the snow in the first place, or walk under snowy trees?

>and just before she hit the ground//
Set off the dependent clause with a comma.

>blowing piles of snow into the air, coming to gentle landing just in front of Applejack//
Missing a word in there, and it's awkward to stack up two participles like this. You could just put an "and" in there to make it a compound one, but... also note that participles imply that things happen at the same time, so she's snapping out her wings, blowing piles of snow, and coming to a landing all simultaneously. That doesn't work.

>“I’m sorry, it’s just . . . your face!”//
And am I allowed to see this face, or do I have to take the narrator's word that it was funny?

>Hearths Warming//
Hearth's Warming

>and she wants a big one this year of us to decorate//
I think you meant "for."

>There was a pause.//
This has got to be one of the dullest sentences that somehow get used all the time. What happens during this pause?

>“Then yeah, it’s better.”//
The conversation that ends her is just a little bit "talking heads" (there's a section explaining that at the top of this thread). More importantly, we're not getting much in the way of characterization here. Everything's sterile action; show me a few indications of their moods, how they're feeling.

>Rainbow Dash loped ahead of Applejack, sometimes fluttering her wings a little, but she didn’t take off once the wind really started up.//
Here's a participle that would be truly ambiguous, except that only one of them has wings, so it has to be Dash who is "fluttering," though grammatically, Applejack's indicated. If they were both pegasi, I wouldn't know which one you meant.

>It’s not like I asked, you just showed up this morning.//
Comma splice.

>Applejack waved nodded.//
Huh?

>Her ears, though, stung and her nose felt numb.//
See the section at the top of this thread on comma use with conjunctions.

>I’ll drag it by myself, if you want to.//
If she wants to what? I can't tell what you're trying to say, but I'm guessing you just need to go without that "to."

>The pine needles tickled when they brushed over Applejack’s fur.//
Again, a very factual statement where you could have used it to create a fun moment. How does it feel? How does she react?

>drifting down to the Everfree Forest below//
You were with the ponies, so this is a jarring shift of perspective, essentially into the snowflakes' point of view, but it'd fix it if you just removed "below."

>a few made it down to them//
Watch your word repetition. This is the third "down" in this paragraph alone.

>A thick bed of pine needles surrounded the base//
If it's dropped its needles already, how would it make a good Hearth's Warming tree? And they're not old needles—it's snowed recently, but they're not covered.

>Rainbow smiled.//
That's really been your go-to body language.Give me some more variety, in word choice at least, and preferably in what they do.

>She’s gonna side.//
Maybe that's just an expression unfamiliar to me, but I don't know what this means.

>Applejack felt a sweat beginning to build up, which was a strange sort of sensation to her.//
Certainly an industrious pony like her is used to working during the winter. This shouldn't be anything new to her.

>Applejack indicated to the tree.//
Fine point, but "indicating the tree" means she's pointing to it. "Indicating for the tree" means she's calling something to the tree's attention.

>It was hard to see anymore than a few feet in any direction//
In this usage "any more" needs to be two words.

>the tree was laying sideways//
Lay/lie confusion.

>W-We’re//
Unless there's some other reason to capitalize the word (it's a proper noun, for instance), you only capitalize the first part of a stutter.

>“Th-The cold, I don’t like it. I don’t like it one bit.”//
Wait, what? She's a weather pony. And during Winter Wrap Up, ponies of all kinds are seen out in the snow without much clothing. This is also a rather sudden change in her. I'm left more confused than anything.

>When I was a filly, I flew up too high and . . . it was so cold, Applejack.//
I don't get it. This wouldn't be a sudden thing. Temperature changes with altitude very gradually, and all she'd have to do to get out of it would be to dive back down. This might bear some more solid justification.

>We’re stuck here, that’s what.//
Or... they could leave the tree behind for now. This is invented drama. There's no reason they have to stay there.

>He told me, that if I ever felt too cold//
Why in the world is that comma there?

>tied Rainbow down//
And if the tree rolls while it's sliding?

>brought it down in massive blow//
Missing word.

>The tree picked up speed going down the hill, and soon the wind and snow were nothing more than annoyances that were blowing past the speeding trunk.//
I'm not bothering to point out much of the word repetition here—you'll need to hunt those by yourself—but two uses of "speed" in the same sentence.

I mentioned the "talking heads" once, and it did pop up in the story a few more times. You want to keep the reader involved in the story, so make a constant effort to put their emotions on display. Dialogue is one way of doing that, but you have to deliver in a variety of ways—dialogue alone gets stale.

I mentioned the repetition, too, and I wanted to point out a few words that you used an awful lot, because they're common ones for that problem. 32 instances of "just." That's not a ton, but there are places where you use several with a couple of paragraphs, which makes it stand out more. 26 instances of "began" or "started." That really is too many. Inexperienced authors use these all the time. It's obvious that any given action would start. It's only worth calling attention to the beginning when it's sudden or the action gets interrupted. Otherwise, it's an empty verb. Finally, I only looked for the most common forms, but you had 92. That's a lot for this word count. First, it can mean you're using too much passive voice, some of which I did see. Second, it can indicate telly language, though I didn't really see much—more on that later. And third, it can mean that you need to choose more active verbs. And that's really the thing here. "To be" is really a boring verb. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. Action is dynamic; being is static. It's impractical to remove them all, but I bet you could reduce that significantly, and your story would be better for it.

Lastly, the major conflict here felt quite contrived. It would seem to be inherent in a pegasus to have resistance to cold, or how else would they do their jobs effectively? You might need to come up with a more believable conflict. Perhaps it's getting late and Dash is afraid of the dark, or she's terrified of some animal noises she hears or something. I'm just spitballing here, but it's going to be difficult to sell "Dash can't take the cold" without a lot of explanation as to why.

So what went right? Well, I didn't catch you being telly, which is always a good thing. You have a good sense of their voices; I found that the dialogue fit them well. Those are some of the tougher things to get right, so the writing's not bad.
>> No. 129301
>>129270
Edit: This is with regards to the penultimate review on this page

Thank you very much for your carefully considered review, I do appreciate it. Not to be prissy, but some of the grammatical "errors" are but trans-Atlantic miscommunication (certainly, semi-colons are used differently...and "comma use with conjunction" is a comma splice over here. This goes for missing capitalisation and improper dashes too)...but I suppose that's fine : ) Um...I'll take some of what you said quite seriously; the Applejack section *is* rather poor and there's no denying it. If my intended effect wasn't pulled off then it wasn't pulled off (using a crescendo of personality {hence the unfittingness of AJ's section} in the narrative tone, with the ensuing peak and crash at Dash's transition {only to begin once more}, might have been...well, um, a bit much? :D). For instance, the weather situation, the reason for Rarity's kidnap & the lack of intervention *are* all explained...but, I must admit, the reasons are very much, as you put it, "between the lines". I don't...urgh :D I don't make it easy for readers, I'll be the first to admit, but even so...I didn't think the point was invisible. I take it you're not a fan of Beckett? :D Um...seriously though, I really do appreciate your efforts and will think long, and hard, upon your criticisms; this fiction (there *is* a plot but...again, I'm not going to spell it out because I'm difficult :D Even so...it's not a "story" and was never intended to be) is obviously beyond repair but, perhaps, the next needn't be : )
Xxxx

Last edited at Thu, Dec 12th, 2013 03:46

>> No. 129305
>>129301
Comma splices are a different thing entirely; at least as far as I understand it from my British colleagues, the American concept is the same. The examples in my section are all compound structures or instances of a dependent clause. Splices occur when a comma separates two parts of a sentence that have independent clauses and any material attached to them. As in:
This is a comma splice, where a dash, period, or semicolon would have worked, it has two independent clauses with only a comma in between.
>> No. 129308
>>129305
Thank you for the grammatical instruction. Whilst I still feel that no comma should precede an "and" (sparing the Oxford Comma, of course) as this would negate its purpose, perhaps I've been ill informed throughout my education with regards to the specificity of the error...um...ta :D
Xxx
>> No. 129309
>>129308
I suggest opening the nearest book on your bookshelf and counting the number of commas preceding "and". I can assure you that it's quite common. The word bears no particular exception to the general rules of comma usage in any English variant that I'm aware of.
>> No. 129334
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Outside, the winter wind drove snow across the yard, building drifts against fences, berms, and buildings, but inside, the farmhouse seemed to sigh in contentment, bundled up against the cold evening.//
It feels a bit repetitive to have participial phrases in both clauses, but also note that the first is misplaced, though not a bad one. Participles like to modify the nearest object in the sentence, so it seems like the yard is building drifts. Like I said, this one isn't bad, since it's not that far from its object, and it's easy to sort out with some logic. But if you're not mindful of it, you will eventually misplace one in such a way that it's ambiguous or genuinely misleading.

>she was in the kitchen, collecting ingredients while the oven preheated.//
Notice that every sentence in this paragraph has nearly identical construction. "X was Y-ing, <participial phrase>." The only exceptions are one instance of an absolute phrase instead of a participle (but which still uses a participial verb form), and a dependent clause leading the final sentence. There are times that such repetition can be used for effect, and I think you're on the edge of that, it's not obviously anything more than an oversight.

>She only had her favorite pie once a year, when her friends were otherwise occupied with their own lives, their own families, and so no one save the Apples had ever seen her enjoy her favorite pie.//
Starting and ending the sentence with "her favorite pie" again doesn't have any stylistic purpose I can find, so it just comes across as careless repetition.

>and ushered Applejack from the room, shutting the door behind them//
Here's another issue with participles: they imply concurrent action. Here, she wouldn't shut the door until after she'd ushered AJ out.

>She watched with interest an hour later//
I can't help but feel like skipping the wait is glossing over what could have been a cute moment.

>pony-back rides were enjoyed//
I don't see the purpose in the passive voice here. In addition to being static, they shift focus, and there's no clear reason here as to why you'd want the reader to notice the pony-back rides more so than AJ or the verb. I'll also ask: why pony-back? It's not like "piggyback" is anything related to human anatomy. Not a big deal, but I just found it strange.

>The pecans had risen to the top and been toasted by the oven’s heat, shining with a patina of sugary coating.//
Again, why the passive voice? Try "...to the top and toasted in the oven's heat..." That's an active construct, and it loses no meaning. Another misplaced modifier, too: it sounds like the heat is shining.

>She looked around and saw everyone else already taking bites of their own slices of pie, their eyes falling shut in expressions of bliss.//
First, I'd like to see these "expressions of bliss." Getting me to conclude that from the cues you provide will leave much more of an impression than just having you tell me that's how they feel. Second, another note about repetition. This is the third straight sentence that begins with "she," again without a stylistic reason for doing so. And every sentence in the paragraph starts with the subject. This simple structure will likely prevail, but work in a variation here and there.

>They would go through the pecan halves her father brought home from the market, taking care to select only the best specimens for inclusion//
And here we go. This one is genuinely ambiguous. Your participial phrase "taking care..." could refer either to what the mares are doing in the kitchen or what the father did at the market. I believe you mean the mares, but the father is more clearly indicated. Then you stack up another participle after it. Better to use and "and" to make it a compound one than have two separate ones in series.

>for it was out of season yet welcome all the same,//
Dependent clauses like this are usually set off with commas at both ends.

>with young Apple Bloom//
Another case of feeling like you've glossed over something important. Why wait until now to bring her up? Wouldn't AJ have a memory of her mother baking a pie while having to take care of an infant Apple Bloom, or perhaps while pregnant with her?

>She found the pie plate, the mixing bowl, the whisk in their usual places. She carefully selected the best pecan halves from the small supply in the pantry; she peered into the glass measuring cup as she poured sugar.//
Besides the repetitiveness of beginning all of these clauses with "she," consider the following: All three of these sentences convey the same type of information. Non stands out more than the others in importance. So why are two connected with a semicolon, as if closely linked thoughts, one flowing into the other, while the remaining one is left out? It makes the narration a bit choppy.

>When she slid the pie into the oven, she went and sat at the door to the kitchen//
I'd argue that's an "after," not a "when."

>‘til//
Your smart quotes drew the apostrophe backward. They will always do this for a leading apostrophe. Paste one in, or add one after it and delete the first.

>Apple Bloom looked down at hers. She’d been too young to have any last year.//
Ah, so she was around the previous year! Would have been nice to see her woven into the memory of it, then.

First, you are correct that we can allow stories below the word count limit, as long as we're convinced they're good enough to warrant the exception. The further below the threshold they are, the more they need to stand out, and you're pretty far below. I think I've made a few suggestions that would help you add to the story without resorting to meaningless filler, which is obviously the wrong thing to do—we see too many stories barely above the limit that have clearly done this.

So, I liked this story. It was a nice take on this family tradition, but not without its problems. There was quite a bit of repetition, and one further example I hadn't pointed out: you used various forms of "to be" over 40 times. That's about one every third sentence. This is an inherently boring verb. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. A few of these are tied up in the handful of times I pointed out telly language or passive voice, but for the most part, you need to choose more active verbs.

For the most part, you had a light touch with the emotions, which is nice, but with a story this short and with such strong overtones, it doesn't take much telling to ruin the effect. Just remember to place yourself as an observer and show me only what you perceive, not what you conclude from those observations. You can show me her tears; don't tell me she's sad. You can show me that she's hopping around; don't tell me she's happy. That's not a complete ban, of course, but you get the picture. You get much more from watching a character act sad in a movie than you would if he just turned to the camera and announced that he was sad. You spend a good amount of time describing the surroundings, but I would like a bit more about how these character feel about things—ultimately, that's what connects them with the reader.

The last bit I have to say is the one I'm least sure about, because you're closer to the edge here even than with the other issues. I'll be blunt: this plays more as a scene than a story. There's no conflict built up with something put at stake. We don't see a character striving to get something and then resolving that struggle. Absent conflict, a story can also provide character growth. We see someone changed by an experience, with the "before" contrasted against the "after." I don't really see that here, either. There's no "aha!" moment where we discover something new about AJ's character, or where she makes a decision that will alter her life appreciably. Things happen to her, and she goes with the flow. And so it goes. Poo tee weet.

Now, if you delved into why she wants to keep this a secret (especially after she did bake for them the one year, which is odd), and maybe she wrestles with her reasons, or maybe if she wants to pass on the tradition to Apple Bloom, you might have something. That's not to say that it's impossible to write an engaging story without conflict or character growth, but it is difficult. Since you were inspired to write this story, maybe no such angle would mesh with your vision of what you want your story to be, and if so, that's fine. I'd have to put some serious thought into whether it could stand well enough as is, or maybe get another opinion on it. In any case, I do want you to address the other points I brought up, and give this some thought. You've obviously got my interest, or I wouldn't have written so much about such a short story.
>> No. 129372
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

First, I'll say that I have high expectations of this story going in, based on the various reputations involved. As a result, I'm going to dig deeper for things to comment on, since it's less "this is what it will take to be accepted for posting" and more "these are my impressions and suggestions for how you could make it even better."

>She merrily returns one full of charisma//
The choice of "charisma" here struck me as odd. First, it's a bit telly, since you don't show me how this looks. I can forgive a bit of telliness here and there, when a moment isn't particularly evocative. I would caution you against doing it much at the beginning of a story, where you're trying to hook the reader. My other reaction was that I don't see any reason for providing this info. Your protagonist doesn't react to it in any way, and "charisma" is the type of thing to produce an emotion or reaction in the observer. It felt incomplete to use that word, but not have the narrator link it to a feeling or action it provokes in her.

>silhouetted building//
I fell like the scene setting is lacking here. "Silhouetted" implies something specific about the lighting, but we're never given any cues about it. It's not until the next sentence that we get a clue as to why—it's storming—but what's backlighting the building? Lightning, dying daylight, streetlamps, ...?

>They are talking about something—I wonder if it’s about me—but their voices are lost to howling wind and thunderous rain.//
Another thing that's a good idea to watch, especially early in the story, is overuse of "to be" verbs. Three in this sentence alone, and in my opinion, ones that would be easy to place with active verbs and rephrase. "To be" is an inherently boring verb.

>even though I’m on my haunches//
Dependent clause should be set off with commas on both ends.

>leaving me alone with only this sparse patch of upholstery//
Look how far this participle is from what it modifies, and it's stacked up behind another participle. It leaves the sentence feeling choppy.

>My entire life is written in this book and it’s something only my eyes can see.//
Another spot where you need a comma to separate the clauses. I see a few more of these. Exceptions can be made for the sake of flow, but you're consistently doing this. I have a brief section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>Wind surges into the cabin, rustling myself and blowing dirty water into my face.//
That's not the way reflexive pronouns work; they need to have the referenced person or thing as the subject as well. Just use "me" here.

>unabated howl//
You described the wind as "howling" just a few paragraphs back. This is borderline, but beware repeating words or phrases in a close space. The more unusual they are, the more breathing room you need to give them.

>I’m at a loss for capacity//
I have no idea what this means...

>It reminds me a little of the sun flower//
Do you mean sunflower? In either case, "the" implies you're referring to something specific, and I have no idea what that is. Even if you mean a generic sunflower, I don't get the comparison you're trying to make.

Okay, these places where you use colored text... I can't see the word "color." Keep in mind that different users and applications have different background colors, and when you play with them, you run the risk that they won't show up. I'm guessing you made these white (I have a white background). I'm also assuming you did this on purpose so the reader can't see other colors, but beware of making the reader do too much word, i.e., highlighting these words to see what they are. In fact, those colors aren't invisible to her; they're gray. So why didn't you make them gray? Ironically, especially considering an aspect of your story, I'm colorblind and can't see much of the colored text right anyway, so the effect is lost on me.

This brings up a point... Are you colorblind? The way Pinkie describes that she can actually see pink and that other shades appear as shades of gray to her—it doesn't ring true, at least in my experience. You see, I have no frame of reference to know what green really looks like, and while I know intellectually that I see it as a shade of gray, I wouldn't describe it as such. It's simply what green is to me, since I don't know anything else. Yes, I have trouble telling it from the colors I know as red and tan and gray, but it's still green to me.

I'm also at a loss as to why Dash needs to take shelter in the carriage. They're in a street in front of a building. She could have gone inside or under the eaves or something.

>like there’s an expected word on a page that’s mysteriously absent//
And given that this is exactly what you did, it smacks of shouting in the reader's ear: "Hey, you! Notice this! I did this thing!"

>I can tell she doesn’t want to be here as much as I do//
I don't think this says what you meant. You want something closer to: "I can tell she finds her current predicament as distasteful as I do." What you said is that Pinkie likes being here, but Dash is less enthusiastic.

I'm noticing more and more comma splices in the narration. While you have some license insofar as it's essentially dialogue, it's starting to grate on me.

>her gaze fixated out the window//
You're confusing "fixated" with "fixed." She could conceivably be fixated, but it implies a mental process, which her gaze couldn't have.

>To emphasize this she sighs//
To emphasize what? Pinkie's perception of her? This really suggests that Dash does it intentionally because of smoething she'd have no way of knowing.

>Her name feels empty, however rapturous it might be, and I can’t help but feel sympathy for her.//
Watch the repetition of "feel" here. This is a very dangerous word anyway. In a tight perspective like this, you can get away with more telling, but Pinkie seems to be operating on a more stimulus-response level. Rather than jumping to her conclusion, it might work better to show what physical sensations or evoked memories or imagery it brings out in her.

>I release a breath I didn’t know I’ve been holding.//
Yipe. Cliche ahoy.

>rattles the carriage//
This shaking and rattling of the carriage is starting to get repetitive.

>Her happiness does not diminish the slightest//
I think you're missing an "in" here, and I'd really rather you show this part, as it's a pretty critical moment in their becoming friends.

>I follow the motion as best I could//
Inconsistent verb tense.

>clapping her hooves together to emphasize the point//
So she's emphasizing again? Repetitive.

>Arsenopyrite//
Okay, I don't get at all why this is the first thing that'd pop into her mind. It wouldn't be any more unpleasant than any generic rock or dirt, really. It's not a mineral that forms particularly sharp corners or needle-like shapes, or that would be caustic. Maybe something like Whewellite, obsidian, carborundum. For that matter, plain old Halite would hurt like hell. A freshly broken piece of "stinkspat" Fluorite?

>wonderbolt’s//
Given that she's pretty much intuited what this means some time ago, why are you still putting it in lower case?

>I tap my hooves together and look at her shyly.
I'm seeing more of this telly language now. It's not really obtrusive, but you might want to read over the "show versus tell" section at the top of this thread and decide if you ought to be forging a deeper connection in places.

>The sky above bellows thunder angrily and is obscured by rainfall.//
And yet you said there was "perpetual darkness." There's some inconsistency as to what they can actually see and not see, including each other.

>ever since I saw the sun flower//
Okay, I guess I'm catching on that this is the Rainboom...

>and myself now curious//
That phrasing just grates on me.

>She trails off//
In most cases, it's bad form to tell me what I can already deduce from the punctuation. Exceptions are common things like "ask" and "shout," but when you use an ellipsis to trail off or a dash for an interruption, you don't need to reiterate that as the speaking action.

>She smiles a brings up a hoof between us.//
Typo.

>“See, you asked me a question...” She brings up her other hoof. “...and then I asked one!”//
The way to wedge a narrative aside into a quote is thus:
“See, you asked me a question—” she brings up her other hoof “—and then I asked one!”

>but my eyes are fixated//
Another odd use of that word...

>I trace my hoof through its tangles, attentive with every motion.//
Watch out for misplaced modifiers. By proximity, it sounds like the tangles are attentive.

>I see obsidian//
What shade of her tail is so dark as to appear this black?

>sucumb
succumb

>It’s entire population is all pegasi like myself,”—she flexes her wing and it rubs into me—“and when I was a filly
Its/it's confusion. That comma needs to go. And note the difference with the example I gave you earlier. Here, the dashes are with the narration, while in my example, they were with the speech. Both are acceptable. The difference is that in my example, the speaker stops while the aside occurs. It seemed appropriate for that case, and I wonder if it isn't here as well. The form you have here tends to indicate that the speech never stopped.

>her cheerful mood dampers//
Dampens, yes?

>fast enough to break the sound barrier//
Well, in canon occurrences, she's formed a shockwave well before she achieves the rainboom. By estimating it from conical shock tables, she's going about Mach 7 before the rainboom forms. Though I certainly don't expect the animators actually intended that level of detail...

>Even with the hazard billowing just outside the carriage//
Hazard? Okay, you've gone to the thesaurus one too many times.

>She brings her debased eyes back up to mine.//
I don't at all get that word choice. The connotation is way off.

>She looks perplexed//
Show me how this looks. As out-of-touch as Pinkie is with reading emotions in general, having her make the conclusions for me seems even more off-kilter, like her accuracy is tied to narrative convenience.

>for awhile//
"Awhile" and "a while" are pretty interchangeable, but not in this case. The preposition "for" needs an object, so you have to make it two words so there's a noun there to serve that function. I see a few other instances. You might want to Ctrl-f for this.

>I forget what going on in this scene//
Typo.

>Just...!//
I'm not one to complain about question marks or exclamation marks after a dash or question marks after an ellipsis, but this combination has never made sense to me. She's trailing off... emphatically? They have pretty opposite functions.

>all of the sudden//
all of a sudden. You do this again later. Suddenness can be awkward to point out in narration, though. We had no reason to expect she'd be cold, so just leaving this bit off would still generate that effect. In fact, with this lead-in, it feels like she senses it coming on, such that it actually takes away from the suddenness.

>who’s else//
who else's

>my mom wasn’t really...” Her voice trails off//
You're doing that thing again...

>She sighs again//
There's an awful lot of sighing going on in this part of the story.

>Without thinking Rocky rolls out of my hooves and I reach for it as far as I can.//
I get that British convention often doesn't use commas for introductory elements, but I'd suggest one here, or it sounds like "Rocky" is a direct object for "thinking." However, "without thinking" is clearly supposed to modify Pinkie, but she never appears in that clause, only her hooves. So you're saying that Rocky isn't thinking. While I believe you, it isn't particularly illustrative.

>There’re a few more droplets//
There was an earlier spot I let slide where you used "there's" with a plural. But if you're going to use this form here, be consistent.

>a curtain being risen//
Raised. "Rise" doesn't take a direct object.

>weight I hadn’t known I’ve been carrying
Cliche reprised.

>laying in bed//
Lay/lie confusion

>Oh that’s not a problem dear.//
Missing comma for direct address.

First off, this was well written. It didn't feel as long as it actually is. But there are a few things I want to go over.

There were only a few consistent mechanical things: commas between clauses, some mistaken phrasings, etc. Nothing much there, and certainly things you're capable of fixing. Just note that I only marked a couple of examples for each—you'll need to root them out.

I talked some about Pinkie's colorblindness, but I'll touch on it a bit more here, since I've seen how it all plays out now. So, she's never know color, then gets a bunch of it in a burst. It's not like she'd understand it, though. She can see red for that moment, but she doesn't know it's red intrinsically. She'd just know she saw some confusing things she'd never seen before, and now they're gone. Put a little more thought into making this feel authentic.

So, Pinkie is telling this story. And yet you use very dense, florid speech for her. I can't help but feel like this is a story told from the point of view of someone who's interesting, but not Pinkie. She only shares a name and a few details about her life with Pinkie. It's a good idea even in a third-person narration to keep your narrator close to word choice and intelligence level commensurate with your focus character, and that's even more imperative in first-person. This just doesn't sound like Pinkie. Not that Pinkie could never be this introspective and intelligent-sounding, but canon Pinkie is always your starting point. If you want her to be something different, you need to get me there first, or you might as well use an OC. Now there are times when such a disconnect can work, and I'd be inclined to overlook it, were this in third person, but I can help coming back to this: The narrator is supposed to be Pinkie, but sounds nothing like her.

I caught you being telly a few times where I felt it was inopportune, but there weren't too many instances. It's worth a scan over points where the emotion runs high to make sure you're engaging the reader enough.

I didn't at all care for the words colored so they'd be missing. Enhancing the story is one thing, but making it difficult to read is another. You don't want to slow the reader down at all. This is akin to giving very phonetic spellings for a thick accent. Yes, it creates an effect, but it's just irritating to read.
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Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

On the chapter title:
At least it's not the story's title, but these inscrutable foreign language titles inspire little more than an eye roll with most readers. They won't bother looking it up, and so it ends up meaning nothing, and even comes across as pretentious.

>waited somewhat impatiently//
This is your first sentence. You want to set a vivid scene and immediately draw the reader in. Being telly isn't the way to accomplish that. Show me what they do and get me to deduce that they're impatient.

>Spike and Twilight both tapped their feet on the empty platform.//
And now you do show us a bit, but it's detached, sandwiched between two bits of action, and pretty short and uninformative for the mood you're trying to create. Just the tapping feet can mean several different things.

>gruff looking //
Hyphenate compound descriptors.

>She dug into one of the two saddlebags she was wearing with her snout.//
You might want to relocate that "with her snout" after "dug" or to the beginning of the sentences. As it is, it sounds like she was wearing her snout, which while true, isn't a useful piece of information.

>The train driver gave the pair a hard look.//
Wait, when did he join in? You had the conductor talking to them, but that's not the driver.

>princess’//
Though it's common to see this, as a singular term, the proper possessive is "princess's."

>Spike stuck out his chest a little at the pony being rude to his adoptive big sister and best friend. //
>Her heart swelled with appreciation when Spike took her offences as his own.//
Note the jumpy perspective. These are both internal attitudes, and so require the narrator to have switched perspectives over the course of two sentences. Perspective shifts can occur, but they need to be smooth and carefully considered. Is this information vital? Is it impossible to communicate both parts from the same perspective? Unless there's a compelling reason to change, it's better to stay with one character's point of view for extended stretches.

>The stallion huffed in annoyance.//
>Twilight was practically bubbling with eagerness//
More telling. You're lapsing into it quite a bit. Some can fly, but this is too much. Your story should be a little movie playing in my head. You provide the visuals, and I'll figure out the emotions. Have a look at the "show versus tell" section at the top of this thread.

>Assuming my research and hypothesis is correct//
Number mismatch.

>resistant to it's effects//
Its/it's confusion.

>did the princess have any advise//
advice

> Maybe others theorized this before, but never found any significant evidence.//
A common problem. Look at the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread. You don't need one here, since you don't have a new clause, but you can get some leeway for the sake of flow.

>Time seemed to fly by. Before they knew it, the train came to a grinding halt.//
This is a very, very abrupt transition. You didn't ease into it at all. They're in the middle of talking, and then, hey, time skip.

>All right you two,//
In the middle of a sentence, direct address takes commas on both sides.

>Alright//
Be consistent about which way you spell this.

>feeling more than a little bit irked by the driver's attitude//
More telling, and you're mixing up their jobs again. A conductor isn't who drives the train.

>Spike looked at the bulging saddle bags, a slight twinge of guilt made his claws twitch.//
Comma splice.

>Spike was suffering much more from his own boredom than the heat.//
and just three short sentences later...
>The patient pony made sure not to take that frustration out on her number one assistant and friend.//
More of these back-and-forth swings of perspective.

>The dragon’s ear fin twitched as he overheard that last part.//
You don't exactly overhear what's said directly to you...

>With that said//
Phrases like this that reference the writing itself are immersion-breaking.

>the unicorn levitated a red and white checkered blanket//
Getting a bit much LUS here. And this conversation has been a little talking heads, too. There are short discussions of both at the top os this thread.

>'Geographical Locations and their Histories'//
Book titles don't go in quotes. Thery're underlined or, preferably, italicized.

>She clutched her tummy harder. “I-I think I’m gonna-“
>The poor mare was unable to finish
You either have an unintentional line break or forgot to leave a blank one. And please use a proper dash for interruptions.

>Owe//
You sure you didn't mean "ow"?

>Don’t worry Spike.//
Another missing comma for direct address.

>She nudged his shoulder with her snout, starting to worry.//
Participles are common as misplaced modifiers. By proximity here, it sounds like her snout is starting to worry.

>wide eyed//
Again, hyphenate your compound descriptors.

At this point, I have to ask why there's a rail line maintained to a place nobody goes...

>She couldn’t tell her assistant the truth –//
You're inconsistent about using an actual dash or a double hyphen.

>Beyond the unnerving fear she felt, she still felt//
Close repetition of "felt." And telly. "Feel" is a dangerous verb, since it encourages telliness. It's best reserved for physical sensations.

>she certain that some extinct species must be responsible instead//
Missing word.

>Twilight took out her camera and took a few more pictures.//
Repetition of "took."

>“Look over there,” Spike said while pointing, “See the top of that building?”//
The way you've punctuated it, the two parts of the quote form a single, continuous sentence, which they can't. You must have realized that; you didn't capitalize it that way.

>Over a set of shorter structures that might once have been grocery stores//
Why would multiple grocery stores have been that close together? And what about them leads her to conclude that's what they might be?

>Strange, Twilight thought.//
Put thoughts in italics or quotes. I believe you used italics in an earlier instance.

>figures moving//
Extraneous space.

>Death before surrender!!!//
Watch the multiple punctuation. One exclamation mark is plenty.

>“Yes ma’am,” Spike saluted.//
That's not a speaking action.

>metal behemoths//
You used "behemoth" not that long ago. The more unusual a word, the more it sticks in the mind, then feels repetitive when you use it again too soon.

>Spike nodded; and before either knew it, they had drifted off to sleep.//
With all the thoughts that must be rushing through their heads, that was easy.

>The dragon looked to his sister//
I guess I can't fault you for this, but canon plays their relationship as closer to mother/son. Consider the complete lack of a reaction of Spike to Shining Armor, especially as compared to Twilight. He certainly doesn't seem invested in that family beyond her.

>light turning//
Another extraneous space. You might want to do a Ctrl-f for two spaces.

>Spike felt the strangest feeling of enchantment with her.//
I warned you about using "feel," plus this is repetitive.

>a much bigger lady standing next to her looking out a window. The little girl was playing with a doll as the older female looked out the window.//
So, she was looking out a window?

>burntout//
burnt-out

>His eye's overflowed//
Why the possessive?

>mucus leaking his nose//
Missing a "from."

>His tears moistening her fur, waking her slightly from her restless sleep.//
You haven't been using a narrator that speaks in fragments, so it feels out of place to do it suddenly here.

>“I don’t want to talk about it."//
This really implies that he fully understands the nature of what he saw. If he felt like the chance might not come again to interact with these scenes, wouldn't he want to take her to see? Or if he thought there was any chance of danger to Twilight, he'd warn her. I don't buy this reaction.

>researchers turned adventurers//
Though not a modifier, this is also a hyphenated term.

>Those of which were not inked out//
Lose the "of."

>that would likely appeal to a certain unicorn DJ//
This is hopelessly gratuitous. Canon has never suggested Twilight has any relationship with her whatsoever, and you're not offering any evidence to support such here, either.

>a smoking barrel//
From your earlier description of what were apparently tanks:
>they also had long tubes sticking out; all pointed away from the building//
So does she know what a barrel is or not? These are contradictory.

>but still substantially larger then a pony//
Then/than confusion.

>They recognized the body shape as that possessed by the beings in their separate visions.//
Yes, you already mentioned that it was "another one of the bipeds." I've seen you do a fair amount of this type of rehashing.

>Spikes voice//
Missing apostrophe.

> It had short cut hair, barely more then fuzz on it's head and around it's mouth, both were dark brown.//
It's/its AND than/then confusion. The fun has been doubled! And the second comma is a splice.

>It also possessed hair just above it's expressive grey eyes
It's/its. Really. Mistakes with this were pretty spotty early on, but four of them in two sentences?

>Gasses//
gases

>nebulas//
I think Twilight would use the more formal plural "nebulae."

>carrying members of the race from place to place//
The unintentional rhyme here is undercutting the serious mood.

>They could not hear her anymore than a weapon could hear the pleas of its victims to stop.//
The way you're using it here, "any more" needs to be two words.

>I don’t want to see anymore.//
Same thing again, unless you actually mean Twilight wants to lose her sight.

>“Wait! Don’t go!” The pony called.//
Capitalization error.

>hind quarters//
hindquarters

So, the mechanical things first. There were a lot of little ones. Things I had to point out multiple times? Watch those. Given how many editing passes I assume this has been through, I'm surprised how many typos are still in there, and things like inconsistent dash use and thought formatting.

Stylistically, there was some talking heads, which tends to make conversations feel bland, and until the end, there was a lack of emotional attachment to the characters. The narrative focused more on the progression of events at the expense of how the characters felt about it, and when you did touch on the emotions, more often than not it was to bluntly inform me of them.

The plot was actually interesting. It kept me reading to find out what this is, but there was a huge disconnect overshadowing it all for me. I touched on it tangentially once already. There's a train line running out here that nobody ever actually uses, and yet it makes the trip regularly. Celestia certainly seemed to know what Twilight might find. I got more of a feel of "Go there—you might learn something interesting" than "I have no idea what's there, so I need you to explore the area" from her. And if she had the slightest inkling at all, she's knowingly sending Twilight into horrible danger. It'd be hard to believe that Celestia truly didn't have any idea what was there, given the nearby train station.
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Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>“But muuuuuum!” whined Chrysalis, “all the ponies get to take part in Nightmare Night!”//
The way you've punctuated this, both parts of the quote should form a single, continuous sentence. So let's remove the narration and see how it looks:
“But muuuuuum! all the ponies get to take part in Nightmare Night!”
Doesn't work, does it?

>Screeching to a halt as she came to the door, she burst into the study startling her father.//
Note that participles and "as" clauses imply simultaneous action, so all of this happens at the same time. She screeches to a halt, gets to the door, and bursts through it simultaneously, when in fact there would be a sequence to it.

>trick or treating//
That's a hyphenated term.

>She nodded her head and grinned, “Uhuh, in New Hoofshire!”//
You have no speaking verb in your attribution. You can't nod or grin a sentence.

>Chrysalis’//
Though it's common to see this, for a singular word, the proper possessive would be "Chrysalis's."

>But dad//
When used as a term of address, capitalize "Dad."

>hi sweetie//
Missing comma for direct address.

>muuuuum!//
When a question mark or exclamation mark is attached to an italicized word, you will commonly italicize it as well.

>Don’t talk about Commander Obsidian like that youngling, he’s a respectable changeling who will take care of you.//
Another missing comma for direct address, and the one you have is a splice.

This conversation was pretty talking heads. There's a discussion of that at the top of this thread.

>-Meanwhile, in a different part of the hive-//
This is a very blunt instrument. Surely, the reader can figure this out on his own.

>This was short-lived//
Demonstratives (this, that, these, those) make poor pronouns, since they often have vague and overly broad antecedents that refer to the writing itself.

>captain//
Same as "Dad." As a term of address, it would be capitalized.

>The door opened revealing a changeling//
You should set off most participles with commas.

>Obsidian scowled at the captain who quickly cut himself off//
Without a comma before "who," it implies there is more than one captain present, and you're specifying which one.

>Obsidian however,//
"However" needs commas on both sides.

>Satisfied with her work, she cackled to herself//
This is the fourth sentence in a row with a participle. Your sentence structure is getting repetitive.

>“I see. That should be fun for the two of you,” the captain smiled.//
Another poor choice of speaking verb. How do you smile a sentence?

>Obsidian also noticed she’d managed to cut a pair of holes for her wings which was quite impressive.//
What exactly would be so much more impressive about the wing holes over the eye and horn ones?

>Your, majesty//
Why in the world is that comma there? And the entire honorific would be capitalized.

>he’s like a...” Metamorphosis twirled his hoof in the air, “...grumpy grandfather to her.//
Here's how you do a narrative aside breaking a quote:
he’s like a—” Metamorphosis twirled his hoof in the air “—grumpy grandfather to her.

>W-who//
Consider what sound would actually be repeated. Wh-who

>the colt who was dress as the vampire//
Verb form error.

>You can call me, Lucky Feather//
Why is that comma there?

>Chrysalis breath//
Missing possessive.

>lets go get some sweets!//
Let's

>He couldn’t risk calling out for her lest he blow both of their covers, he tried to keep his calm and remember his training as a guard but none of that seemed relevant to him at the time.//
The one comma you have is a splice, and you're missing two others that should be there.

>I was like that at my age to//
To/too confusion.

>They thanked the mare and quickly scampered over to his mother, giggling in glee.//
Participles are commonly misplaced modifiers. By proximity, you're saying that the mother giggled, but I'm betting you meant the group of children.

>‘cos//
Smart quotes break when you try to make a leading apostrophe. It's backward.

Hm. Not much happens here. We don't learn anything interesting about any of the characters, the plot is formulaic and predictable, and none of the jokes were laugh-out-loud funny. It's lightly heartwarming, I guess, but we're looking for things that stand out in some way, and this really doesn't.
>> No. 129381
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>going to//
Extraneous space.

>that she was sure that now that I was a princess//
This is a pretty ungainly phrasing. You have three nested "that" noun clauses.

>When you're a princess, it's so easy to forget your roots.//
Fine point, but it's easy to slip into addressing the reader like this. It can take some thought to rephrase and avoid doing so, but it's a bad idea to address the reader, unless you've established a framing device in which the narrator will regularly interact with the reader, or you have a second-person point of view, where the reader is actually a character in the story.

>I want to remember my little ponies.//
Besides sounding trite, this doesn't quite mesh with her previous statement. Calling them "her" ponies isn't exactly grounded, and is a notable difference from how she thinks of them in canon.

>(politely of course)//
Actual parentheses work better in articles of writing, as in a letter or journal entry. As narration, you could just use dashes or commas here, but if you're married to the parentheses, it's not out of the question.

>Inasmuch unless she was too busy//
The "inasmuch" doesn't parse here.

>I also told her not to call me Shirley.//
This is a very old and very tired joke.

>Where was I?//
Okay, so you do establish the reader as someone listening to Twilight tell this story. That introduces another issue. It's implied in any first-person story that the narrator is telling it to someone, though you can generally get away without establishing who and why. But that can't really be swept under the rug when you involve the reader like this. Why does she want to tell me the story? And why am I listening to her?

>Febreze//
Using real-life brand names is problematic at best. You could just generically say "air freshener" without losing any meaning.

>every time she visits, her allergies act up and she has sneezing fits for a week//
Have a look at the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>sing song//
Hyphenate. The way you've phrased this, it makes it sound like Fluttershy always talks in a sing-song voice, which isn't the case. Maybe "a" instead of "her" would work better.

>I really miss my friends sometimes.//
This is a pretty throwaway line. You don't really do anything to justify it or make it mean anything. Just the brief reminiscence about Shy and Dash brought this on? Then say so. And how does it make her feel? Don't tell me bluntly, but give me a couple of symptoms. Maybe she stares off for a moment, maybe she gets a warm feeling.

>Oh, hi Twilight!//
Missing comma for direct address.

>where I was sitting sipping tea on her couch//
You at least had Shy bringing her tea, but the last time you told me where Twi was, she'd just come through the door. When did she get to the couch?

>and droppings of animals poop//
First, you're missing an apostrophe, but this is also redundant. "Droppings of poop" is like saying "pee of urine."

>Sparkle do best: Organize!//
You don't need to capitalize after a colon when it doesn't refer to multiple sentences.

>a broom, if that's
>ok with you."//
Why is this line break here?

>Huh, what is that smell?, I thought.
Any end punctuation takes the place of a comma in transitioning out of speech.

>*POMPH!* went my wings.//
Made-up words for sounds effects are a bad idea, and so is putting asterisks around them. Just describe the sound.

>I'm sorry overreacted like that.//
Missing word.

>ok//
Write this out as "okay."

>She cut me off.//
This was already evident from the way you punctuated the dialogue. You don't need to indicate it again.

>Celestia's hot sun.//
This is one of the most cliched things you could have possibly said. It's bad enough in narration, but as dialogue? When have they ever said this in canon?

>when they do eat, the can up to a third of their weight in food//
Typo and another missing word.

>a newborn bunny I had to put down because of severe birth defects//
This has really disturbing implications. She wouldn't bury it? How do the bunny's parents feel about it?

>And you're third question?//
Your/you're confusion.

>Ow!--...eye.//
Don't combine a dash and an ellipsis like this. They mean very different things.

>The next thirty seconds went way to fast.//
To/too confusion again.

>I actually literally heard a “squee” sound, like she was a cartoon character or something.//
Meta for the sake of meta is... a thing, I guess. Not a good thing.

>You licked her?!//
Given that reptiles are transmitters of salmonella, I'm with Twilight here.

>"She... she has... hepatic cancer."//
Letting the text itself do the work for you is cheating. Kind of.

>Hepatic is Gricean for... liver right?//
I have a hard time believing that Twilight would have to work this hard to figure that out.

>She doesn't speak Equestrian very well.//
Very well? You stated explicitly earlier that she couldn't understand anything Twilight said.

>"I mean just that: I don't know why I can talk to animals, or why I understand what they say. I just do. I guess I'm blessed with a gift."//
You've just gone through eleven paragraphs with only two actions breaking up all the dialogue, one of them a blatant tell. Check out the section on talking heads at the top of this thread.

>I shuttered watching the thing//
Shuddered.

>She also was several years older than the rest of us, come to think of it.//
Well, she's only one year older than Pinkie, as per canon.

>two hundred and sixty six//
Surely, someone as scientific as Twilight would know how to say a number properly. There's never an "and," and it's "sixty-six."

>example,//
Because you're ending this part of the quote with a dash to work in the aside, you don't need the comma.

>A few days latter//
later

>watch her bury her animals//
Okay, let's bring up that baby rabbit again. Why not feed Gabriella to another one of her patients?

>writing about this//
So she's writing this story as opposed to telling it to someone? Because the odd vocal quirks she used earlier in the story absolutely do not belong in something written. They're conversational.

I get that Twilight learns a lesson, but we don't get to see her, y'know, learn it. She breaks down, Fluttershy explains things to her, and then we see her afterward, once she's internalized it. We never get to see the moment when she gets it, and that's where the real power is.
>> No. 129385
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>the various cities municipal guards//
cities'

>Someday, she will return.//
I don't see a good reason for coloring this text. In fact, it appears so pale, that I almost didn't see it/ I thought you just had an extra line break to mark a weak scene break.

>deep blue manes. Deeply//
Watch the repetition, even if the words are used in different senses.

>Moon doth//
>star goes out and the sun gutters//
Why the inconsistency in using archaic language?

>She would rejoice at their loyalty, and reward them for their service.//
See the section at the top of this thread on comma use with conjunctions. Bottom line: you don't need one here, since it's all a single clause.

>the Sun Princess’ tasks//
While it's common to see this, singular terms do technically take the full apostrophe-s. The proper possessive would be "Princess's."

>respect for their monarch, whom they had served with unbreakable respect//
Watch the repetition again.

>Forty two//
Forty-two

First, the good news. This is well-written and almost free of mechanical problems, which is pretty rare. The backstory behind the batponies' creation is an interesting take on things.

Now the bad news. There isn't much story here. There is a ton of history, but it's all presented in a detached way. We don't get to see any of it unfold. The power of a story is in connecting to the characters who live it, but we don't see anyone live anything. The first third of the story is a narrative info-dump. The second third is Luna's info-dump monologue. The last third is Celestia's info-dump monologue. We're being told about all of this after the fact and see nothing but lip service as to how any of them felt about any of it. Even the little bit of conflict presented (whether the Nocturne will accept Luna's explanation and forgive her) is glossed over. They react in a way that shows they still revere her, but it's all action, no emotion. The same from Luna, who walks among them, but never reacts or lets on how any of it makes her feel. It's a lovely piece of world-building and a nice basis to use for a story, but what's here reads like a biography or a history textbook, not a story with a message.
>> No. 129387
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>another torrent of tears //
When was the first?

>Wordlessly the two adults left the room.
>
>"That should keep her asleep for a while," the doctor reported.//
This is an odd juxtaposition. They leave wordlessly, then there are immediately words. Give me a transition. Where did they go? How much time passed?

>Her voice trailed off desperately.//
The ellipsis already shows her trailing off. You don't need to repeat it in the narration.

>Doctor Clearwater had trained for years to be a doctor//
I bet you can rephrase that to avoid repeating "doctor."

>The sight of her alone brought another torrent of tears streaming down her eyes//
This is clearly from the mother's perspective, and it's only the story's second paragraph. In the third, it's unclear that there is a perspective. Then in the fifth, we get this:
>he felt bitter that this mare would even make him say it//
Don't jerk the reader around with frequent changes of perspective like this. The longer you stay in one perspective, the more the reader identifies with that character and cares about him/her. Have a look at the section on head hopping at the top of this thread.

>There are worse odds than a coin toss.//
I hardly think his prognosis would be this dire for something he could only approximate as less than 50/50. Those are actually not bad odds for many serious conditions.

>Even without looking//
Participles are normally set off with commas.

>Don't make me say it, you bitch, he thought//
Wow. This is coming out of nowhere. What motivation would he have to be this mad at her? If he's studied to be a doctor as much as you imply, this is also something they're trained to handle. He'd tell the truth, cushion it as much as he felt was warranted, and stand by the facts. If there's some history here that's influencing him, you need to go into it to get me there. And the "he thought" part isn't actually his thought. It wouldn't be italicized.

>SOME//
Italics are preferred over bold or all caps for emphasis, except in the case of the Royal Canterlot Voice.

>Her mane, nearly as ragged as her daughter's, fell messily around her face in a way that was oddly alluring. Even her misery was tragically beautiful.//
And after silently cussing her out, he's now attracted to her in her moment of pain? I am now officially creeped out by this character.

>she began to sob//
Why "began"? You already had her sobbing in the first paragraph.

>If only she had recognized the early signs, if only the doctor had diagnosed Windflower quicker//
And now you've switched perspectives within a single paragraph.

>Outside the night had fallen unnoticed and a cold October breeze whistled through the trees.//
See the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>Maybe she will have a bit of peace//
If this is a thought, as indicated, italicize it.

>there came a point in which//
Usually phrased "at which."

>tear swollen//
Hyphenate compound descriptors.

>You are right, Princess. I do not know where I am going, but I have to keep going. It's time for me to stop being afraid.//
That was a rather quick change of heart. Really, it signifies that the central conflict of this chapter was no big deal. There was no struggle to achieve the goal, much like going grocery shopping.

>equestrian//
Capitalization, unless you literally mean "one who rides on horseback."

>As she fell into the dream//
Needs a comma to set off the dependent clause.

>Casting the Princess one more brisk glance//
You're inconsistent in capitalizing "princess."

>movable press//
You should probably go with "printing press" or "movable type."

>such joy!//
When ! or ? is attached to an italicized word, it's normally italicized as well.

>made, this//
Extraneous space.

>your royal highness//
The honorific would be capitalized.

>We would love to see thy progress.//
You're being inconsistent with her archaic speech. Here, from chapter 1:
>"Child, why do you weep so?"//
This would be: "Child, why dost thou weep so?"

>corner stone//
cornerstone

>(Somewhat un-princess like)//
First, this wouldn't be capitalized. Second, actual parentheses work best in articles of writing, like a journal entry, or possibly in a first-person or very subjective third-person narration. But in an objective narration, it feels out of place, and in any narration, you could just as easily use dashes or possibly commas.

>No longer did desks and ink and parchment fill the room, instead it was dominated by a series of heavy presses//
Comma splice.

>a moments confusion//
Missing apostrophe.

>"Good morning, your highness," bowed a thickly built red stalltion//
Your attribution has no speaking verb.

>!!!!Grandpappy Flam's Miracle Elixer!!!
Is there a reason for the asymmetric number of exclamation marks and their boldness? And is the misspelling intentional?

>A common street remedy for every pain you can think of//
I know it can be tricky to avoid some phrasings that address the reader, but you really should. It feels out of place to suddenly do this when you haven't established a narrator that will speak to the reader.

>Slowly she made her way through the mess, searching carefully for Inkstar, expecting the worst but praying for the best.//
Why is there a line break here? It also feels abit clunky to have two participial phrases stacked up in series like this, particularly since it exacerbates the problem of misplaced modifiers. As phrased, it sounds like the mess is searching, which we can at least sort out with a bit of logic, but it really does sound like Inkstar is the one expecting the worst.

>be you winged or horned or hooved//
Um... aren't they all hooved?

>How like a mother kissing her foal goodnight!//
Since the narrator hasn't settled into a perspective here, I can't tell who's expressing this opinion. The only candidate I can fathom is Luna, but this is a rather detached and flippant sentiment, given how morose she just was over Inkstar's death.

>not reach//
Another extraneous space.

>It filled her stomach and turned it's empty caverns//
Its/it's confusion. It's also confusing to have the first "it" and the one in "its" refer to different things.

>And the unicorn Inkstar, so wronged by the world, so lost, seeking the peace of dreams through opiates to banish her from the real world, only to die by that which gave her escape.//
I have to say that we met her so briefly that I formed no attachment to her. There's some default sympathy for her situation, but I just don't care that much about what happened to her. We saw one nice dream of hers, but for all we know, she was an asshole.

>Why was her night abused//
What about when ponies sleep during the day? Particularly for the sick child, she probably slept during much of the day.

>earth bound//
earthbound

>Why did ponies use it to hide instead of explore?//
This begs the question about daydreams, which are very much in this character. Can Luna see them? Can Celestia?

>She will help fix the pain of nightmares//
Why the tense shift?

>reclined recumbent//
Redundant.

>The concerns of a mortal politician were mere dust motes in the mind of an immortal Sun God. It should be enough for him to merely bask in her glory.//
Okay, you're also blindsiding me with this characterization of Celestia. You can get some leeway to present her like this before giving the explanation, but there needs to be one. Canon is your starting point, and if you're going to play her differently, you have to connect the dots to get me there.

>We must speak with the at once.
thee

>"Princess Luna." she said insistently//
Dialogue punctuation.

>Things that effect the peace of my night as well as your day.//
While you could argue a valid meaning here, it would be unusual. As worded, you are saying these things cause the peace. I believe you meant "affect," as in these things influence the peace, but do not directly cause it.

> treatable. " she paused//
Extraneous space, capitalization.

>We just helped pass another Filly tonight.//
You have a lot of these odd, inconsistent capitalizations. I can't see why you'd capitalize this, and you didn't in the previous sentence.

>Luna paused.//
So, two consecutive actions for her are pauses?

>"And what would you have me do about this."//
It's a question...

>we could reach more ponies in their dreams to try and sooth them.//
soothe

>equestria//
And then you don't capitalize this... I just don't get it.

>"We-"//
Please use a proper dash.

>Celestia, stepping down from her throne, cut her off//
Missing end punctuation, and once again, an action that is redundant with how the quote was punctuated. And another thing: When speech is cut off, the very next thing I read needs to be that interruption. If not, it undercuts the suddenness when the narrator has time to wedge something else in. As such, it feels like Celestia stepping off the throne is what made Luna stop speaking, and I can't imagine why that would be the case, unless you give me an explanation. More likely, Celestia's words stopped Luna, so they should immediately follow the cutoff.

>HOW Princess Luna//
See, when you use multiple ways of emphasizing things, I have no idea what they mean relative to each other. Which part of this is louder? It's better to use the narration and choice of speaking verbs to get this across.

>livlihoods//
livelihoods. Mind the squiggly lines, please. Most of the time. Well, maybe half the time. At least they can spot things like this.

>Step by step, Inch by inch//
All I can think of when I read this was Niagara Falls.

>The frigid wind felt like feathered ice on her coat as the wind rushed over her, exalting her, worshiping her as she willed herself higher and higher.//
Multiple "as" clauses in the sentence make it feel repetitive.

>"And she deserved more. "//
Another extraneous space.

>cottony//
You just used "cotton" earlier in the same paragraph, and the repetition isn't for any evident stylistic reason.

>when those eyes closed ceased too the strain of muscles and the beating of feathered wings//
Awkward phrasing.

>long overdo child//
Overdue

>Cold, panicked anger flushed though Luna's blood. Jealousy and rage and anger assaulted the immortal princess of night before crashing into a wave of despair that nearly choked her.//
There have been little bits and pieces throughout, but this is hugely telly and serves only to distance me from her. I connect to a character by figuring out how she feels from the evidence, not by having it fed to me. Look through the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>"I'M WARNING YOU. I GOT'S A RAKE!"//
This is a serious shift of tone. It's almost funny, and I don't think it was supposed to be.

There are obviously some mechanical issues. Things I had to mark several times? Those'd be the ones. And I didn't mark every one, or even the majority—just enough to give you the gist of what to look for.

On a stylistic note, the two biggest problems were the jerky narration and repetition. I've onge on about the head hopping already and pointed out numerous example of the repetition. But here's one I haven't mentioned yet: to be. In your first chapter, just the "was" form appears 27 times. That's a huge amount for this word count. Consider also that it's an inherently boring verb. I'd much rather read about what happens, not what is. Overuse of this verb points to telling problems (there were a few), too much passive voice (only a little here), and a need to choose more active verbs (that'd be the biggie).

On a characterization front, I'd just say it's an interesting reversal of the presumed attitudes of Luna and Celestia, but so far I've seen no bridge between canon Celestia and your portrayal of her. You can't string a reader along but so far without drawing that line between them and expect him to stay interested. Luna's feelings are also a bit empty, since I don't feel them with her. We don't get to know the two who died enough to care about them, so we don't have a default position to sympathize with Luna, and we don't even really see her emotions on display about it, either.

You do have a knack for description, though it tends toward purple at times. When in Luna's perspective, that may suit her to a degree, but it won't serve all your characters, particularly if you keep switching points of view.
>> No. 129392
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>were crammed//
Up front in the story is not the best place for passive voice, especially when you could avoid it altogether by simply substituting "had" for "were."

>the royal palace//
I waffle myself on what to call the place, but they have referred to it in canon as Canterlot Castle.

>to have witnessed such an event//
You just used "witness" earlier in the paragraph. Watch the repetition.

>”,m wewwy bword,”//
I have to say, I've never been a fan of indicating volume through font size. It's kind of a lazy way of getting around having to describe it in narration. I'm also not sure what that first comma is doing there, and it appears to have flipped the smart quotes the wrong way at the beginning.

>Boredom - the complete absence of fun.//
Well... lack of engaging activity, not necessarily fun. But that's a minor point. Please use a proper dash, not a hyphen, but I think a colon would be more appropriate here anyway, since you're defining the term.

>as she continued to brush her mane.//
Okay, I'll speak up about this. You first had a "began to brush her mane" statement. I didn't say anything then, since it was the first instance of this in the story, but it's a common verb to overuse. Every action begins. It's only worth pointing out the beginning when it's notable for some reason, like it's an abrupt change, or the action gets interrupted. I let it slide, since it looks so far like it won't be a frequent issue for you, but then you go on with a "continued brushing" action, which is again something very obvious. Switch it up. Add a twist to the action, give it a bit more character.

>She finished brushing her mane//
Okay, you completed the trifecta of obvious statements.

>“Oh, you needn't actually do anything,” Celestia clarified, “Just keep an eye on her.//
Dialogue capitalization/punctuation. You probably meant to have "just" in lower case, but I'd argue that sits too close to a comma splice, so I'd recommend putting a period after "clarified."

>She turned to face Luna, bemused.//
Probably the first time I've caught you being telly, so good on that front. Of course, you don't always have to show, but I would like to see this expression from her instead of having it summed up for me.

>It was very difficult for her, even as a ruler of an entire country, to deny her sister when she used that tactic.//
I almost commented on this earlier, but I have to say something now. Your first paragraph made a statement that wouldn't be outwardly obvious ("This was a momentous occasion, after all, for there were few in attendance who could claim to have witnessed such an event within their lifetimes as was occurring here today.") Thus it's from a specific perspective, to a degree—kind of the crowd's mindset. But then you switch into Luna's perspective. I didn't mind that so much, since the crows mind helped establish the setting and wasn't a specific character anyway. But after spending the whole story in Luna's head, you suddenly bump us over in to Celestia's for the grand total of one paragraph. Perspective shifts can be done, but they need to be smooth and necessary. Is this information vital? Can it only be told through Celestia's perspective and not read from her by another's perception? And if it is necessary, surely it's worth staying with her for a while.

>deep in thought.//
Removable. Your description of her already gets this across.

>No matter how she looked at it, her inability to get the hang of flying just didn't make any sense to her.//
And here you go again. You were in Pinkie's point of view, so why switch to Twilight's? You could convey this same information through Twilight's body language as seen by Pinkie. Edit: I thought you were going to stay with Pinkie, since she's listed as a main character, but it would probably work better to have this scene entirely in Twilight's perspective and rework the little bit that was in Pinkie's head. You can get somewhat of a pass on this in comedy, as internal reactions can carry much of the humor, but it's just too much here.

>with concern.//
A common type of telly language. These prepositional phrases are almost always redundant with the description or action they follow.

>in annoyance//
And again. Get rid of these. If you think what's left isn't clear, you can add a bit more description.

>royalty?//
Commonly, a ? or ! will be italicized when it's on an italicized word.

>Princess Luna, however, was quick to grab hold of a chance to avoid having to watch Twilight all day.//
>Not even Twilight could resist staring open-mouthed at the princess. Surely she hadn't just heard what she thought she had heard.//
Yeah, fix that perspective. It's jumping all over the place.

>(much to her annoyance)//
Actual parentheses work best in a very deep perspective or, preferably, in articles of writing, like a diary or letter. In shallower or objective points of view, these often render better with commas or dashes.

>video games, with Luna absolutely crushing Pinkie's high score//
Oh, good. Gamer Luna meme. (Don't mind me. I just hate these, but I won't make you change it.)

>all-too familiar//
You don't need the hyphen.

>"I know, we can go to Sugarcube Corner!" she beamed.//
That speaking verb... How does one beam a sentence?

>"...and//
Even though it doesn't actually start the sentence, capitalize. Lower case is for when we had the beginning of the sentence earlier, and it's picking back up.

>Let us go inside and you can show me more//
Missing comma between the clauses.

>welcome, princess//
As a term of address, "Princess" would be capitalized.

>Sweetie darling,//
These are separate terms of direct address, so put a comma between them.

>H-hello, princess!//
Same.

>Pinkie suddenly gasped, interrupting her.//
Two things: The previous dialogue trailed off, which isn't an interruption, and once that's fixed, the speech will already indicate an interruption; you don't need to reiterate it here.

>Mrs. Cake looked scandalized//
And how does this look?

>She and Pinkie were sitting at a table outside, admiring the absurdly oversized bag of cotton candy Pinkie had bought for them.//
Note that participles can frequently be misplaced modifiers. By proximity in the sentence, it sounds like the table is admiring the candy. We can discount that with a bit of logic, but then it's ambiguous whether you mean Pinkie, Luna, or both are admiring it.

>amazing!//
Italicize the !. You're inconsistent at this.

>an entire ball of it..." she eyed the bag of candy, "this large//
You've almost got it. Here's how to work in the aside:
an entire ball of it –" she eyed the bag of candy "– this large

>So it had come to this.//
I think you want a colon here.

>hyped up//
Hyphenate.

>careful consideration//
Extraneous space in there.

>on hot days. On this day//
Feels repetitive.

>rocky lake bed//
They're generally just muddy.

>Rainbow, my wings are sore and it's getting late.//
Needs a coma between the clauses.

>Pinkie greeted with a big smile//
Transitive verb requires a direct object.

>Unbeknownst to Princess Luna, ingesting high concentrations of sugar comes with horrible side effects, including terrible belly pains and dehydration, and a low, almost depressing feeling upon coming down from the initial high.//
This is more science lesson than something interesting. Just have her experience those symptoms instead of externalizing them like this.

>doing so caused her head to hurt so she just closed her eyes again and lay still//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

Mechanically, there were a mixed bag of things but just as many appeared to be oversights than consistent problems. So just watch the ones I had to point out multiple times. Note that I didn't point out every instance, just enough to show what the issue is. You have to root out the rest.

In style, I pointed out a few instances of telling. I kind of already explained it, but you might want to read over the "show versus tell" section at the top of this thread. The only other things I'd point out are these:

Saidisms. You have about 160 quotes in your story, but you only used "said" seven times. It's a verb designed to blend in and avoid notice. While your choice of speaking verb can lend flavor to your writing, picking unusual ones too often begins to draw attention to them and away from the actual speech, which is a bad thing. YMMV, but I usually aim for a balnce of about 1/3 said, 1/3 other verbs, and 1/3 no tag.

"To be." You use this verb a lot. was/wasn't: 61 times, is/isn't: 36, were/weren't: 15, be/been/being: 56. There will be other hidden ones, too, like in "she's." That's a ton for this word count. It's an inherently boring verb. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what is. This high a count can indicate telly language, too much passive voice, and a need to choose more active verbs.

I rather liked this story. The biggest things that need to be fixed are the deluge of "to be" verbs, the jerky perspective shifts, and some telling. Get those in order, and I'd be happy to post this on the blog.

Resubmit when you're ready, and I'll grab it again so it doesn't have as long a wait again.

Last edited at Tue, Dec 24th, 2013 12:55

>> No. 129399
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>It has been ten years since we've held a Summer Sun Celebration here, after all.//
Almost feels like that "has" should be emphasized.

>Twilight muttered as she unrolled the scroll.//
Okay, two things. First, when you use an unusual speaking verb, it stands out as repetitive when you use it again, unless you space them out quite a bit. You just used "muttered" a few paragraphs ago. Also note this "as" clause. You've been using an awful lot of "as" clauses and participial phrases already. It's giving the narration a repetitive feel to the structure. Another thing to watch is that both of these things imply that actions are simultaneous. I haven't caught you in an impossibility yet, but if you keep using these so much, you're likely to run into that trap at some point.

>annoyance replacing her prior shock//
It's far more effective to demonstrate these moods and get me to infer them than to state them outright. It's the old "show versus tell" problem. What would an outside observer see about her appearance and actions that would lead him to conclude this about her?

>Donut Joe’s//
Did you mean Pony Joe's? Or is this something you're making up for this story?

>she muttered//
You're doing that thing again...

>Discord waited until he was sure Twilight was far enough away, then flicked his talon at the stage.//
I want to caution you here. The scene to this point had been in Twilight's perspective, but you spend this last paragraph in Discord's. Now, such a thing can be done, most often for comedic effect, and at least you spend the whole paragraph there. It will stand out as out of place if this is the only time in the story you do it. I'll keep an eye out for it as I read, but you have to be very careful with perspective shifts and make sure everything you do with them is intentional. Many writers slip between perspective without realizing they're doing it. You might want to read over the section on head hopping at the top of this thread.

>Come on Cloudchaser//
Missing comma for direct address.

>Applebloom//
Apple Bloom

>“—and so then//
Even though it's not really the beginning of the sentence, go ahead and capitalize this. You leave it lower case if this was picking up again from an earlier incomplete sentence, but we don't have that here.

>No sense letting her last foray into romance color the future.//
I've never been a fan of little throwaway lines like this that hint at a lot but never explore any of it.

>Dishes flew everywhere as the thick wood , and for a long second everypony was deathly silent//
Extraneous space, and apparently a missing word there.

>your Highness//
The "Your" is also capitalized in the honorific.

>one simple fact.//
You go on to define or clarify the fact, so a colon would be appropriate here.

>Her frown deepened and she levitated a few napkins over to help bandage the injury.//
You've had the occasional issue with this. Look at the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>Once they were secure she turned her attention to his head, using a trickle of power to bring him back to wakefulness.//
I'll just point this out as another danger of using participles. They can easily be misplaced modifiers. By proximity, his head is using a trickle of power. We can sort it out with a bit of logic, but they can sound awkward, and if you aren't careful, you will eventually run into one that is ambiguous or outright misleading.

>He shouted incoherently, wings spasming; and//
You do see a few authors do this for effect, but there's really no reason to use both a semicolon and a conjunction. They're redundant.

>The floor chimed as he climbed off the stair, ringing off the columns spaced around the perimeter.//
First off, I have no idea what "the floor chimed" means, given that he's obviously not on an elevator. But now we have a more blatant misplaced modifier. It sounds like the stair is ringing. In fact, I'd go so far as to call it a dangling participle, since the sound effect never appears as a noun, so only the floor or the stairs could be ringing. I'm also not a fan of using a pronoun as the first introduction to a character. Even something generic would work better.

>she was cut off as Pound buzzed his wings, the colt dashing past her into the hallway for the door.//
Capitalization, as this aside isn't inserted inside the quote. But more to the point, when the punctuation already indicates being cut off, you don't need to reiterate that in the narration.

>You know Twilight, a princes//
Another missing comma for direct address, typo.

>Okay then, if it’s not magic, than what is it?//
Than/then confusion.

>keep em to yourself//
Missing apostrophe on "em," and watch the direction your software will want to draw it. Smart quotes always get leading apostrophes backward.

>Pokemon//
You're inconsistent at capitalizing this.

>Sure, it was a little tough at first,” a ripple of laughter ran through the crowd as she smiled, “but together we found our place.//
You're trying to punctuate an aside like an attribution. This way only works if you have a speaking verb. Here's what you want:
Sure, it was a little tough at first—” a ripple of laughter ran through the crowd as she smiled “—but together we found our place.

There are a few consistent problems here. First of all, "to be" verbs. They're inherently boring. I'd much rather read about what happens, not what simply is. You don't actually use that many, but when you do, they occur in clusters, 3 or 4 in a paragraph. Even that's unavoidable at times, but I bet you could break that up some. I also talked earlier about your overuse of participles and "as" clauses. They tend to make the sentence structures repetitive. You use "as" 24 times in chapter 1 and 32 more times in chapter 2. They're not all used in this sense, but most are.

Also have a look at the section on "show versus tell" at the top of this thread. I noticed a few too many of the "happily" and "in excitement" types of telly language for my taste. Just be careful to note what's happening in the story when you do that and decide whether you need to the reader to share that emotion with the character or whether it's an unimportant detail.

The story's actually not bad so far. Tighten these things up a bit, and I could see it on the blog, but I would like to get a better sens of where it's going first. Along those lines, I'd like to see another chapter or a brief summary of what you have planned to make sure you have an engaging idea going forward and that you'll tie in the Pokemon part in a meaningful way instead of just having it tacked on as a "hey, this is cool" thing.
>> No. 129401
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>On paper, it seemed like a swell idea.//
If you just tell your story with a first-person narrator, that's one thing. It invites the question of why the narrator wants to tell the story and why I want to listen to him, but there's kind of an unspoken agreement to gloss that over, unless the reader is very picky. However, if you address the reader or create a framing device like this that clearly sets it up as the narrator sitting there and telling me the story, then it's much harder to overlook.

>But most ideas seem that way on paper I suppose.//
Missing comma.

>tough looking//
Hyphenate your compound descriptors.

>Better still, they worst they can send after us//
Typo.

>In light of that Hank found the idea to be agreeable//
Introductory elements don't always have to have commas, particularly in British usage, but without one, it sounds like "that" is trying to start a noun clause.

>hide out//
hideout

>Most of them were drab in color but one stood out from the rest.//
Check out the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread. I've already seen a few instances.

>As evening moved onto night//
You need "on to" as separate words here. It means something different.

>but before she could//
Needs a comma to set off the dependent clause.

>What's what is called?//
That "is" feels extraneous.

>The game silly!//
Missing a comma for direct address.

>Not wanting to provide my real name, my eyes jumped around the cave for something to inspire a different identity.//
You have a genuine dangling participle here. "Not wanting to provide my real name" describes "I," but the speaker never names himself in the sentence. This says that his eyes don't want to reveal his name.

>set down our sleeping bags down//
Watch the repetition.

>When I woke up the next morning//
Another dependent clause needing a comma.

>Diana//
Canon is Diane, iirc.

>Snake Eye, would you mind terribly if I tied up and gagged our resident princess?//
So he's not keeping up the fake names anymore?

>I didn't really have any emotion tied to the act//
And such is the state of this story on the whole. I'm getting a lot of actions described, but little in the way of how any of the characters feel about what's happening. That emotional connection is what makes a story engaging. Be careful how you show emotion, though. In order to head off problems, you might want to look over the "show versus tell" section at the top of this thread.

>Ooh, Let's play Princesses now!//
You haven't capitalized "princesses" until now, and there's no reason for "let's" to be capitalized.

>should someone stick around the watch the door//
Typo.

>tough burly//
Coordinate adjectives need a comma between them.

>shouldn't of//
shouldn't have

>Within seconds the cave was filled playful chatter and noise.//
Missing word.

>However, he did return my gaze directly and only sat there like a dumb sack of beans.//
I have to think you meant "didn't."

>Good morning, gentlecolts,"//
Missing your opening quotation marks.

>Not once did he take his eyes of Hank and I.//
People often use "I" when they shouldn't because they're afraid of being wrong. "Me" is actually appropriate here, since it's the object of a preposition. Try taking out "Hank."
"Not once did he take his eyes of I."
Doesn't work.

>clearly enjoying the introductions//
I'll just point this out as a place where you need to show instead of tell. This is his conclusion. What evidence does he base it on? Let me see the same evidence and draw my own conclusion. If you write it well, I'll get where you want me to go.

>leaving Hank and I alone with her father.//
Again, "me." It's a direct object of "leaving."

>it might have allowed Hank and I//
Same deal.

>Pinkie Pie genuinely cares for you both about//
Some wording got jumbled there.

And then you never close up the story with the framing device you introduced at the beginning.

I like this story. It's got a good idea and is a fun little read. But it does need some work. First, there's a fair amount of telly language, but more than that, it often skips getting at the emotional content at all. If already referred you to the info on "show versus tell." Just make sure your story doesn't amount to a simple list of actions. How your characters feel about those actions is just as important, and it's what draws the reader into the story. Next, you need to put some thought into your framing device. It feels slapped on and doesn't do anything to enhance the story. Thus, it's dead weight. Either go without it or put some more work into making it effective. On a stylistic side, I'll warn you about your speaking verbs. I'm not sure there was a single one you used more than two or three times. The verb "said" is designed to blend in. It doesn't call attention to itself and lets the speech carry the focus. While it's nice to mix in some other ones for flavor, if you do it too often, the writing itself steals focus from what the story is saying, which is bad. I found myself noticing which speaking verbs you were using, so my attention was split from the story. I usually aim for an even split between "said," a mix of other verbs, and going without an attribution. YMMV, but you don't want to end up at one extreme end of that spectrum.
>> No. 129406
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>The night was silent and peaceful; as though nothing could ever go amiss.//
Misused semicolon. And this is disturbingly akin to "It was a dark and stormy night" as an opening line.

>Night birds trilled shrilly but their voices would not carry.//
Check out the section at the top of this thread on comma use with conjunctions.

>She was the darkness; she was the moon itself. She was Princess Luna.//
You sure you don't mean Batman?

>to feel the strong and passionate grief//
Extraneous space in there, and this is rather telly language. That can be acceptable in places, but at the beginning of the story is a bad time to put that distance between the reader and your character. Have a look at the "show versus tell" section at the top of this thread.

>Luna choked back the tears that threatened at her wide navy eyes//
That "at" is extraneous.

>"Shining Armor," She put on her most dignified voice, "What brings you here?"//
Your attribution has no speaking verb, and it's capitalized wrong, anyway.

>Armor lost his unbalanced discomfort and sat with a sudden ease.//
>He leaned over, peering through the night into Luna's distressed face.//
A couple more examples of where you bluntly tell me a character's mood or emotion. I sense this will be a consistent problem.

>but he//
Another extraneous space. You might want to do a Ctrl-f for two spaces.

>excitedly//
Besides being telly, you just used this adverb for Shining Armor not a few sentences ago.

>Luna though fiercely//
Typo.

>but her legacy will live on//
Inconsistent verb tense.

A note on word repetition: you use "smile" 7 times in this chapter, which isn't that much, but they all occur within 8 paragraphs of each other.

>whom was her own father's grandmother//
who

>never witnessed its glory, it's beauty//
Its/it's confusion.

>Snow Sparkle's cottage laid//
Lay/lie confusion.

>Now she could almost see the fuzzy white tip of the mountain.//
This ends only the second paragraph of this chapter, and you've already used "mountain" 7 times.

>the quick expel//
The noun form is "expulsion."

>Hardened sleet hailed//
This is just a big mishmash. Sleet is hardened by nature, and it doesn't hail. It sleets.

>From her perch she could see the faint candle light glow of her home and the distant hills of Equestria; if she looked hard enough.//
Another misused semicolon.

Really, the rest is just the same problems over and over again.

To sum up, the major issues were telly language, dialogue capitalization and punctuation, coma use, semicolon use, and repetition.

Another word about that last one: In your first chapter, I had to get pretty far in before I saw much variation in sentence structure. Almost every one began with the subject, and they all had about the same length. It gets your writing in a rut. And beware of the verb "to be." It's a boring verb, but one many writers tend to overuse. You had 22 instances of "was" alone in the first chapter. That's even a little more frequent than once every other sentence. You need to choose more active verbs.

The conflict is also a bit on the weak side. When Snow Sparkle finds her talent, she doesn't have much of a reaction to it. She resents it beforehand, but once she's found it, she's rather stoic. Her emotional development on this issue is what will engage the reader, and it's just not there. Instead, it seems to be played more for Luna's benefit, but she doesn't have much reaction either. And their decision to sequester Snow Sparkle up in the mountains to basically force her into finding a talent they suspect she has is rather cruel. Why do they do this? That's not that standard. Take the CMCs, for example. They're allowed their freedom to find their talents at their own pace. Why be so rigorous with Snow Sparkle?
>> No. 129412
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Do you have any questions about what I just told you?” he asks something along those lines.//
That's not a dialogue attribution. Really, it's a separate sentence. Also, you go on using only "he" for quite some time. I've scanned ahead a few paragraphs and see nothing but that. It's best to establish that character early, most times before you ever use a pronoun for reference. You don't have to name him; something generic like "the pony" can even work, just so your pronouns have an antecedent.

>they look pale, he should have them redone//
Comma splice.

>I know it not now, but from memory; I can’t see anything right now, but I remember that before now it couldn’t have be seen as too much different.//
That's an awfully jumbled thought that reiterates a couple of things. Plus, there's a verb form error and three instances of "now" in the same sentence.

>I presume that, even if I did//
That comma is unnecessary.

>The white light above us doesn’t help, it’s getting in the way of things.//
Another comma splice.

>I feel at ease.//
It's a more engaging read when you give me the symptoms instead of the diagnosis. Describe what effect being at ease has on her and let me conclude how she feels. You might want to have a look at the section on "show versus tell" at the top of this thread.

>I usually use my magic, I’m very good at it; although it feels nice, opening a door on my own.//
The first comma is a splice, and the semicolon is misused—there isn't an independent clause after it.

>I can see the cracks on the sidewalk and the ants that live there//
Ants out on a sidewalk wet enough that it's splashing on her?

>Why would someone pick a favorite color? I had asked him. Is there any point to it? A color is a color, what makes one a favorite?//
Why are you punctuating dialogue like thoughts?

>Even when they’re young//
Needs a comma to set off the dependent clause.

>dancing the ever waltz//
Missing a word there? Something like "ever-present"?

>How instinctual could it have become, now, that we are born to exemplify the very rules we as children set out to protest, just in our own right?//
That second comma can go. However, the main thing here is that the narrative voice is wavering between simple, dazed-sounding speech and philosophical posturing. From what I know of her situation so far, it's not impossible that her mind is actually oscillating like this, but aside from the narration itself, there's nothing to indicate why. There's no emotional attachment to what she's saying that seems to drive her mood in these directions. It's like riding in a car blindfolded. You feel the turns, but you don't know why you're turning and can't anticipate them. You can get some leeway for this, but at some point, you have to provide some motivation, or it just feels directionless. We'll see how far you take it.

>had ran//
had run

>It is as if to say that only when frozen, only when tested past the capacity of its endurance does something become one with that which is around it, and even then that bond can be shattered thoughtlessly by the smallest, most insignificant force.//
Repetition of "test" from the previous sentence. I'm also not following your metaphor here. It took a pretty big force to crack the frozen dirt. Frozen soil is stronger, after all, but then you go on the call that strength insignificant. And how is that cracked soil "becoming one with that which is around it"?

>something as minuscule as a rabbit’s paw can still shatter it into a million pieces.//
A rabbit's paw isn't going to do much to soil unless it's extremely loose or wet. It won't do anything to frozen soil. None of this is ringing true. You don't want your story's primary emotional thread sounding like psychobabble.

>There would be time, endless time, such an amount of time that the greatest mathematicians of our world would find it incalculable, only frustrating.//
Mathematicians are specially equipped to deal with concepts of infinity. You keep sacrificing meaning for poetic gradiloquence.

>The streets around me appear empty//
"Appear" wouldn't enter into it. She has an unobstructed view of them. She'd know explicitly whether they were empty.

>Her body is covered by a light brown jacket, a compliment to the stetson hat and red scarf she wears.//
"Stetson" is a proper noun (and, incidentally, not really what she wears, but so many authors use it that I can let it slide). And you've confused "compliment" with "complement."

>Her blonde mane runs freely down her neck, lacking in the usual red bands that would hold her ponytail together.//
I've noticed several of these misplaced modifiers. Participles are common for them. By proximity, it sounds like her neck is lacking in the usual red bands.

>“You must be”—she bites her lip and pulls her scarf tighter—“freezing, Twi’.//
"Twi" is just a nickname. You don't need the apostrophe. Also, presuming that biting her lip necessitates a momentary stop in her speech, put the dashes inside the quotes to indicate that pause.

>Her concern is more than obvious, she isn’t attempting to hide it.//
So what does this look like?

>Am I so important as to inflict pain upon someone else just temporarily relieve my own?//
Missing word.

>for awhile//
"A while" and "awhile" are interchangeable in some respects, but not when you need a noun. Here, "for" requires an object, so it should be two words.

>happily sipping their hot chocolate as they sit and talk about nothing but their favorite colors.//
This also feels incredibly inconsistent. Maybe it's only Twilight's perception of what's going on inside, but she just spent a while going on about Applejack's depth and sincerity, then in her next breath she's condemning her as just another shallow reveler? If you tried to build up AJ as a character, you just tore her back down.

The only consistent mechanical thing I saw was comma splices, so pretty good on that front.

Stylistically, this is full of narrative whiplash. Twilight's in a daze one moment and then waxing poetic in the next without any reason for the change. Applejack's a deep thinker and treasured friend one moment and a superficial partygoer the next. And too many of the metaphors are built up with fancy verbiage to obscure their nonsensical meanings. I'll also point out the sheer number of colons and semicolons. There are 24 in only 2600 words. You don't want a writing tic like this drawing attention to itself, to where the reader notices things about the writing itself. It breaks immersion.

Plot-wise, nothing happens. The only thing that can be called a conflict is Twilight's decision whether to tell Applejack what's troubling her, but that comes and goes in less than a page. We never get the first inkling of what Twilight's problem is, and nobody does anything about it. Twilight doesn't undergo any character growth as a result. You have a scene here, but not a story. What changed? What was at stake? What goal did anyone have? What bad thing would have happened if that goal weren't achieved? I've seen you make that exact criticism of a story before.
>> No. 129413
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>So I’m Vinyl Scratch, and I have to write this stupid book so Octy can chill a bit, but actually-//
This format is going to be troublesome to critique. It's got plenty of mechanical errors so far, but as it's meant to be something that Vinyl wrote, would it represent the same kinds of mistakes she'd make? Quite possibly. Except that I doubt they were intentional, at least the majority of them. I'm actually impressed that you've avoided one of the biggest traps with diary stories so far, at least until now. Being cut off like this is a speech affectation. When you write, it's a slow enough process that you have time to plane out what you want to say. You wouldn't have an abrupt change of direction like this. It needs to sound like something she'd actually write in a diary, not something she'd say out loud.

>I’m a DJ, and I love my job.//
Needs a line break here.

>I love handing some autographs to my fans//
And what is this "hand" you speak of?

>against all whining of my parents and the raised forefinger//
Missing a word, and "forefinger"? You haven't marked this as a human story, so I'm not sure what to think here.

>going down to snack something//
Missing word.

>Wub-’n-Classic//
Needs another apostrophe after the n.

>Scratch!’,//
Doubled-up punctuation.

>‘round//
Smart quotes routinely fail on leading apostrophes. This one's backward.

>records to spin ‘n cake to eat//
Same deal with this contraction as before, but this comes across as more of a speech affectation again. Would she really choose to write that instead of spelling out "and"? I doubt it.

>3am//
You've been putting a space in there.

>Christmas//
"Hearth's Warming" in canon, yes?

>you’- look//
You don't need the hyphen. The quotes already group the compound modifier.

>(of course nothing like that ever happened to me, as I’m pretty awesome and stuff)//
Implying that being awesome prevents rape? I... I don't even know where to start with this.

>So ehm//
>Mh//
Again, these are speech affectations.

>See- ehm//
Please use a proper dash.

>Duuude//
Same deal. You talk like that, but you don't write like that.

>Being in the club all night isn’t new to me, but usually I stay sober during my performance, don’t want to fuck up all this awesome music, y’know?//
Okay, watch the language. There's only so much we're willing to take. But here's another trap writers fall into when doing diary formats: You're including quoted speech. In a letter or diary entry, you'd summarize what was said, not quote it. It's the little things like this that make it sound unconvincing as an actual diary.

>DJ P0N-3//
You're not always consistent in how you capitalize this.

>Wanna hear about that last time? Alright then.//
This is just immersion-breaking. Who's she talking to? And what's her motivation to write this now? She clearly remembers it well—it's not like she'll forget if she doesn't get it down. There are certain difficulties that come with choosing a diary format, and you can't just gloss them over or slap "this is a diary" on a standard narrative and think it will work.

>’What?//
This quotation mark is backward.

>somepony knocked our door//
Another missing word.

>Yet.//
This doesn't make sense, given the phrasing that came before.

>Wouldn’t had been//
have

>Octy came up to ask me if I could lower the volume//
Yeah... you just said so.

>came back to live//
life

>putted//
put

>But there are also some good news today.//
Subject/verb number agreement.

>tick//
The term you want is "tic." Again, Vinyl may not know that, but at some point, you're making the story hard to understand in the name of character. And that's giving you a big benefit of the doubt that this was intentional.

>The Great and Powerful Trixie//
What makes her a VIP?

>Cya//
You're inconsistent about putting line breaks with this at the ends of your chapters.

>she finally got herself into those ponies minds//
Missing apostrophe.

>Ruben was send//
sent

>I hurts//
Subject/verb agreement.

>If I just break contact to Ruben//
Phrasing. There are a lot of these little problems the further I go. It's like you didn't edit the later chapters as well.

>I woke up slowly.//
And you're not writing a diary anymore? It's a really rough transition when a story adopts a storytelling method for many chapters, then abruptly changes it later. I mean, I get why you did it, but that doesn't help smooth things out. If you'd had it as a regular narrative all along where she writes her entries at the end of each chapter, it would be more consistent.

>I started to squirm. Is this the end?//
This is the first break we've had in paragraph after paragraph of nothing but speech. Look at the section on talking heads at the top of this thread. After the first sentence here, the change in tense marks a change from narration to thought. You need to consider more carefully how you're doing this, whether you need to italicize the thought or reword things to keep the tense consistent.

>You wasn’t//
C'mon...

>they seemed to be involved into this//
Phrasing, but... where is she getting this? I've read the entries, and I'm not getting that impression.

>Smack//
Sound effects in narration aren't the best idea.

Aside from the mechanical issues, which I can't even tell how many are on purpose, We have the whiplash of storytelling method, talking heads, and a plot that's so out of left field that I didn't know whether to take it seriously. The editing got worse as I went on, and I'm more convinced that Vinyl's mistakes are more oversight than intention now.
>> No. 129414
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>and took position//
Missing word.

>After she landed, Celestia//
First, it's ambiguous whether you mean Celestia landed or Twilight did. Plus you already mentioned that Twilight landed.

>…and//
Going without capitalization is for sentences that pick up where previous ones leave off. Since there is no previous sentence, capitalize this.

>He merely dismissed the notion that the list was incomplete, or otherwise had errors.//
See the section on head-hopping at the top of this thread. You've been in Twilight's head, and I don't see a reason to transfer into Spike's perspective like this.

>She was annoyed//
And check out the section on "show versus tell," too. It's better to lead me to this conclusion through evidence you present instead of telling me her mood directly.

>She now felt silly that she has neglected such a simple thing, and was glad Spike was sleeping and couldn't see her mistake.//
Verb form. Also check out the section on comma use with conjunctions.

>who awoke with a groan//
Set off the dependent clause with a comma.

>Twilight was surprised at this.//
Beware using demonstratives (this, that, these, those) as pronouns. They have vague, broad antecedents that refer to the narration itself. Fortunately, the fix is easy: find an appropriate noun to put after it.

>exotic looking//
Hyphenate your compound descriptors.

>Princess Twilight;//
Misused semicolon. There is no independent clause before it.

>massively racist policies//
Agreed. Where is this coming from? There's no indication of such in canon, so it's rather abrupt to jump straight to it. You need to connect the dots.

>A single tear rolled down her cheek.//
This is incredibly cliched. If she cries, just have her cry.

>Celestia looked at Twilight with a look of worry.//
Besides being telly, she just did this a few paragraphs ago.

>" Well//
Extraneous space.

>turn me back into a unicorn.//
Missing closing quotation marks.

The few emotions you do get across are done in a telly manner, but there's really not that much emotional content to begin with. The narration focuses too much on what happens at the expense of how anyone feels about those events. It reads more like a historical record, not a narrative. And this is a huge decision Twilight is making, yet he makes a snap judgment. She's going to give up being a princess after one day, and Celestia is so willing to indulge her? She's not even portrayed as that emotional about it, more bored and frustrated than anything, even where paperwork would seem to be up her alley, getting everything documented and squared away. It's just all to detached from the character to draw the reader into it and make him feel bad for Twilight, and her decision is made and supported much too lightly.
>> No. 129427
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>The only one who came to her birthday was herself.//
That's not how reflexive pronouns work. She'd need to be the subject as well. Grammatically speaking, the "herself" should be "she." You could actually put "she herself" or "Pinkie herself" there.

Story:
Your opening paragraph presents the entire emotional context to set up your story. But you present it all so factually and quickly that it doesn't sink in or leave much of an impression on the reader. And unfortunately, you're not going to be able to do that quickly. People grow apart. It happens. I'm not going to feel sorry for Pinkie unless I know how losing these particular friends makes her feel, so that I feel it along with her. At least you don't have to start from ground zero. Canon already establishes that they're good friends, so that's a given. But you do need to present these in such a way that it fills in more of the backstory and shows me the pain instead of summing it all up for me. You do a little of that with Rarity in particular, so that's a step in the right direction.

>between she and the twins- but even that felt more like a business partnership//
Please use a proper dash. And as the object of a preposition, you need "her," not "she."

>Ponyville didn't feel like home anymore. Nowhere that she could, and did eventually visit, did anymore. Every morning when she woke, she told herself; "Today will be better. Today ponies will love me again. Today my friends will remember me."//
If we're to believe "Magical Mystery Cure," the town doesn't function without her. And she considers everyone a friend. This might take some more justification to connect the dots from canon.

>Dasha//
Huh?

>The years had treated her well, it seemed she hadn't aged a day since that last spat//
Comma splice.

>“Well yeah. But you’re close. Just come with us, Pinkie, I thought you were our friend?”//
Looks like you're missing a line break there, the last comma is a splice, and that's not really a question.

>She plastered on a fake smile as she sat at her little desk, beginning to slowly and painfully brush out her straightened mane.//
Watch placement of participles. They often make for misplaced modifiers. By proximity, it sounds like the desk is beginning to brush her mane.

>Heh, that was a funny word, accrued.//
You're making the character aware of a third-person narration. Bad, bad idea.

> She grabbed down a towel and finished drying herself, pulling a brush onto her hoof and running the stiff bristles through her mane to finish straightening and neatening it.//
Watch the word repetition in a close space, as in the "finish" here.

>maw//
Inasmuch as you're trying to adopt a subjective viewpoint, it would behoove you to use language you could imagine the character using, even if you don't actually adopt her voice. This just doesn't ring true as a word Pinkie would ever use.

>Immediately she moved for the kitchen and started a pot of coffee, cooking herself a fried egg inside a piece of toast for breakfast while she waited on the pot.//
Another thing to note about participles: they imply concurrent action. So she's starting a pot of coffee, cooking the egg, and waiting on the coffee all at the same time.

Your left margin is uneven. I suspect you're using a set number of spaces for indentation. FiMFiction will stretch that and distort it. You'll need to replace those indentations with tabs.

>Pinkie sighed deeply, and returned to her meal.//
Check out the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>You never really got used to Pinkie's melancholy, you just.. made room for it.//
Ellipsis is missing a dot. It's really odd to address the reader when the narrator hasn't been making a point of it, and in this case, seems to have leapt into Pumpkin and Pound's perspective, even though they're not there.

>Dutifully, the twins marched along behind her to school//
If Pinkie's 40, that makes the twins what, 15 or 20 at least? They still need to be walked to school?

>She smiles, yes, that would be nice.//
Verb tense, and why are you going from an objective to a subjective viewpoint in the same sentence?

>an empty amber bottle marked with a label in uncomprehensible Equestrian lays on its side on the floor.//
Lay/lie confusion. incomprehensible

>She rolled onto her side//
You've begun the last four paragraphs with the same word. Mix it up.

>"Drop!".//
You don't need to double up on the end punctuation.

>Pinkie knew where she was being lead now.//
led

>The curly-maned mare snorted and pawed//
You already had her do that half a page ago, almost word for word.

>Earth pony//
"Earth" would not be capitalized in this sense.

And now that I'm finished reading, I see that the bulk of the points I've made or planned to make in summary down here have already been noted in the WRITE review posted in the story's comments. I have to say, I agree with most of what's there, but there are two in particular that I want to emphasize.

This story hinges on the reader feeling Pinkie's utter hopelessness and pain. The source of that hopelessness and pain is her distance from her friends, which we are only ever told about in narrative summary. All of that backstory needs much more detail to seem real and to bring the reader's emotions to bear.

And suicide is a very serious theme to undertake, particularly in this fandom. As such, Equestria Daily tends to stay away from such stories unless they are exceptionally good and give the subject the appropriate gravity without glorifying suicide in any way. While I can' accuse you of the last one of those, since I can't even tell whether Pinkie actually killed herself and came to some sort of peace with some of her alter egos in a sort of afterlife or found the strength to go on living with those same alter egos as support. In any case, it still needs to stand head and shoulders above the piles of other suicide stories, and it just doesn't.

And a further word about repetition—I encountered a lot of "to be" verbs, over 60 across both chapters. That's a lot for a story this short. They're boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read action verbs. I bet you could weed out a bunch of these.
>> No. 129431
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

I'd recommend cutting the second paragraph of your synopsis. It's not the kind of thing that's enticing, and it really tells us nothing about the story.

>This time Rarity’s face was tear-streaked, her eyes filled with a primal rage, her knees shaking and about the give out from despair, even her mane and tail were starting to show signs of neglect.//
This sentence is much better than the "pool of emotions" stated in the first one, in that it gives me the symptoms of how she feels and lets me draw the conclusions, except for that "despair" part. This is especially important right at the beginning of the story, where you're trying to forge an immediate connection between the character and the reader. You might want to look at the section on "show versus tell" at the top of this thread. The second comma here is a splice, and you have a typo in there.

>a string of desperate false confessions, the misunderstanding and subsequent battle between three local waiters and her old compatriot Tempeh//
Since I have zero idea what any of this is, it's not going to carry any weight in trying to make her situation sympathetic to me.

>She was basically eternally single now.//
I get that she's prone to exaggeration, but this is coming out of nowhere. Her thoughts hadn't been running toward failure at romance, and yet that's what this all led to.

>THAT//
Italics are preferred for emphasis.

Okay, the bit in italics... The colored text isn't helping you. It's not immediately evident what the significance is, and when the reader has to go back over it to figure it out, that's a bad thing. It's also a fairly lazy way of getting at her mindset without actually describing it.

>so she wouldn’t be stopping in unexpectedly//
Set this dependent clause off with a comma. You'd normally do that anyway, but without one here, it sounds like you're giving Sweetie Belle's motivation for being away.

>tantrum//
You're telling me she's having a tantrum, but I don't really get to see it.

>(s)//
All these parentheticals are getting to be a bit much. I'll give you some leeway, since it's a very subjective narrator, but you don't want tics drawing attention to the writing itself and away from the story.

>“ –‘and//
Capitalize, since this isn't continuing a sentence begun earlier. You also have an extraneous space in there. An ellipsis would be more appropriate than a dash, since the speech isn't breaking in; we're just gradually becoming aware of it.

>Ya’ll//
Why can't anyone spell this right?

Your Applejack accent is a bit much. Readers will mostly fill it in for you. You don' have to resort to so many imitative spellings like "tha" and "ta."

>It was really...” she paused, searching for the best word, yet ending flatly with, "...weird."//
Here's how to work an aside into a quote:
It was really—” she paused, searching for the best word, yet ending flatly with "—weird."
Note you also have a mix of simple and fancier quotation marks.

>She felt the need to emphasize Rarity's genuine wishes that the note contained. Ensure her friends understood and would permit her to try this.//
The first sentence is pretty meaningless, and the second just plain doesn't parse.

>If- no//
Please use a proper dash.

>iffn//
if'm

>Each exchanged looks, and turned to leave with short parting words.//
Have a look at the section on comma use with conjunctions.

>*ahem*//
No. Sound effects in narration are bad enough, but you've crossed the line into a first person narration by doing this.

>And failures//
Why in the world is this in a bigger font?

>she laid on her back on her sheets, staring and wondering//
Lay/lie confusion. Also note that participles can easily be misplaced modifiers. By proximity, it sounds like the sheets are staring and wondering.

>calling her nutty//
This is also coming out of nowhere. We haven't seen any of this happen. Maybe it's only in her mind, but we haven't seen her impression of it happening, either. That's one of the biggest problems with this story: it expects us to take things that are scarcely mentioned, and then make an emotional investment in them so that Rarity's situation makes perfect sense and we care about her.

>knowing internally//
As opposed to?

>They can't grasp my pain//
And herein lies the problem. I can't either. I'm seeing little evidence of it. All I have is her vague statements and some telly language that shortcuts the emotional discovery process and feeds me the conclusions.

>That sullen sorrow turned to annoyance and indignation.//
...And here's a prime example of it.

>A cover to save himself from my love expressed!//
And this is a common problem with shipping stories. You've just stated that she was attracted to him, and I'm supposed to just accept that and care about it. I have no evidence of how much she cares for him or what sort of chemistry they have together. I can't tell whether this is some years-long thing that's devastating her or a momentary infatuation that she's exaggerating. All I know is that the narrator says she likes him, and I supposed to develop some attachment to the idea. It doesn't work that way. Don't assume I'll care. You have to make me care.

>heart!!//
One exclamation mark is plenty.

>She paused, her glaze trailing along the floor.//
Either that's a typo, or there are some very disturbing implications that make this story unsuitable for Equestria Daily...

>The mixes had slowly returned more reasoned and calm than before//
Mixes? I can't figure out what you mean.

>look could look//
Watch the repetition.

>"Though...,"//
You don't use the comma when there's some other kind of end punctuation there..

>Elsewhere, a pink pony suddenly sneezed colorful confetti out her ears.//
I have no reference as to what this is supposed to mean. Pinkie Sense? Just a random comment?

>Her surveyal//
survey

>this love and relations headaches//
Hyphenate your compound modifier, and you have a number agreement problem (this... headaches).

Okay, I'm at day nine now, and I have to wonder what happened to Opal. She's surely back from the groomer, and in canon, Rarity uses her as a sounding board. Why wouldn't she be there?

>She cut herself short//
You don't need to say what the punctuation already does.

>get~!//
~ is not punctuation. If you mean she's trilling or singing the word, then say so.

>If I knew here was the best entertainer in town//
Phrasing.

>Here in front of her was one who would never judge her//
Except that she has been judging her all week...

I've said it already, but I'll say it again: The biggest issue in this story is a decided lack of emotional investment. We're given a very vague idea as to what put her in this funk in the first place, so that leaves it all feeling very external to me. What emotional context we get from Rarity herself is biased heavily toward telly language, which again just leaves everything external. You're asking me to come up with the buy-in, but that's your job. It might have been more effective to throw out the whole bit with Fancy Pants and leave it as some generic thing that's shaken her self-esteem. Then there's not so much of an impetus to want that back story explained.

The resolution is fairly weak. Essentially, she's trading one mental calamity for another and hasn't addressed the core problem, but I'm not prepared to say that's a deal-breaking choice. While it means I personally found the ending unsatisfying, I can't call it that in an objective sense.

So where were Rarity's friends? They express all this concern for her, and while I can appreciate that they'd give her space if she needed it, they'd at least check in without being intrusive. And while it's possible that happened off camera, it would be completely on me to invent it. It just seems odd to give them a role in the story at all and then do nothing with them.

On a note about repetition, you have well over 150 "to be" verbs in your story. That's a ton for one of this length. While I can understand that you'd have more in dialogue and a narration that tends toward a dialogue feel, but I bet you could reduce that quite a bit. It's an inherently boring verb. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is.

I will say that you have a nice touch with Rarity's voice. Her conversations with the mirror seemed nicely in character, and while the slower, introspective nature of the story may well be pretty hit-or-miss with readers or even what particular mood they're in at the time, I enjoyed watching her progression.
>> No. 129449
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>with my first salary//
That's just an odd phrasing. A salary is an ongoing thing, so technically she'd still be on her first salary. She's likely not salaried, though—I imagine her type of job would be an hourly wage. Bottom line: I think this would work better as "Paycheck," and I think that's closer to the meaning you were going for anyway.

>That and a few pieces of cakes//
While this could have a valid meaning as written, it's still just phrased oddly. Try just singular "cake."

>can you imagine two Pinkie’s running around the place?//
This shouldn't be a possessive. Lose the apostrophe.

>Like, twenty Pinkies!//
This begs the question of when you envision this story occurring. Given what happened in "Too Many Pinkie Pies," you may need to make it clear that this story predates that, or the reader is just going to wonder why that's conveniently slipped her mind. Edit: Now you've definitely got a problem. Gummy's definitely seen alive in canon after "TMPP," so she'd have already seen this exact scenario happen before.

>Like, twenty Pinkies!//
I'm only through two paragraphs, and already 8 of 14 sentences end in an exclamation mark. For one thing, readers already know Pinkie is excitable and will fill in a lot of that tone for you. For another, exclamation marks are meant to make things stand out, and when a lot of things stand out, it weakens them all. Consider the extreme: When everything stands out, nothing does.

>caught my eyes//
I've only ever seen this phrase in the singular: caught my eye.

>you already know his name by now//
This opens a can of worms. If your narrator isn't one that's going to address the reader regularly, it's best to avoid doing so altogether. The other issue is that by dragging me in as an effective character, you're courting the edge of needing to justify my presence there, as you would with any character. Why would I be there with her? Why does she want to tell me the story? Why do I want to listen? When you make me part of the story, you have to consider my motivations, too.

>It didn’t even hurt really. It was just gummy.//
It wouldn't have hurt, even if he had teeth. It's not like she can feel her tail.

>GUMMY!//
Italics are preferred over bold, underline, or all caps for emphasis (except in the specific instance of something in writing).

>Mister-Chomp-A-Lot//
That first hyphen can go. You don't say "Mister-Smith," do you?

>WHY WON’T YOU TALK TO ME GUMMY?//
Missing comma for direct address.

>What if Gummy was to die?//
This is an extremely odd disconnect that she'd independently conceive of this possibility. I could see her in denial that Gummy could ever die in the first place, but she's conceding that.

>ol//
Missing apostrophe.

So now that I'm at the end, I have to wonder why Gummy isn't starting to smell. There's a pretty big issue of being sanitary here that it's hard to believe everyone can just gloss over for her benefit.

There were the few odd editing issues that had me worried because they all cropped up near the beginning, but I was pleased to see the mechanics improve when I got further in. Still you don't want those being the first impression the reader gets, so fix those up.

There's a fine line here with Pinkie's friends trying to help her. Since it's from her perspective, I could believe that they'd tried a few times, but that it didn't even register with her. But she'd at least know what they said to her. And the bit about Twilight making Gummy move didn't really ring true. She's very down-to-earth and practical. She'd realize that wasn't really helping and again with being unsanitary. Particularly since there's strength in numbers, wouldn't her friends have made sure she understood, particularly with the emphasis they always place on friendship? It really makes the whole thing feel detached to me, like they don't care enough about her to use some tough love. Whether or not she actually gets the picture is another thing, but I think the story would be a lot stronger for making it clear that they were all doing their due diligence.
>> No. 129451
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Berryshine is a pony with a history and a reputation, neither of which she is very proud of. However, a series of events forces her to re-examine her life.//
First, that's not a very enticing synopsis. You'd do better to play up the emotions surrounding this re-examining. Frankly, the same can be said of the title. Second, you're doubling up on the "of." The "of which" already contains the "of" you try to end the sentence with.

Depending on the browser and font, your scene break dividers are running longer than one line. Either use a shorter one and center it or take advantage of the [hr] character that FiMFiction provides.

>How do you explain to your adopted daughter that you weren’t always the humble grape farmer that she knew you as?//
Right off the bat, you're striking an odd note with your narrator. I did a search of "you" through the first chapter. Most occur in dialogue. Of the ones that appear in narration, some are of the type that are meant as a generic person; they're not necessarily addressed at me. For those, it might be better to rephrase them so they don't tend to address the reader, but that's not a huge problem. What bothers me is your opening scene. In there, the narrator definitely addresses the reader. You don't keep that up through the story, so it's almost like you're creating a frame for the story in which Berry is sitting down with me and telling me the story. That begs the questions: Who am I to her? Why am I there? Why does she want me in particular to hear it? Why am I listening? When you create a character for me to be, that character needs the same justifications for being there and motivations as any other character would. You can't just skip that part because you think it'd be interesting to use this framing device.

>Clint Clydesdale//
I have no idea what pun this is supposed to be. It sounds nothing like "Eastwood," so I have to think you're just making something up out of the blue, and in that case, I have no reference as to how menacing this is supposed to be.

>She has this wild poof of orange hair and her cutie mark is a bunch of carrots, which labeled her as a farmer.//
Check out the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread. I see a number of these throughout the story. And that "labeled" shouldn't be in past tense, assuming there isn't some reason it wouldn't label her as a farmer anymore.

>some horse college//
Assuming you're making a pun on "cow college" (really, I can't figure out what else this might mean), an A&M university would be a cow college, right?

>if was to come for the ceremony//
Missing a word. Really, this would use subjunctive mood as well ("were"), but it's up to you as to whether Berry knows that.

>NOT//
Italics are preferred for emphasis.

>two twins//
Redundant.

>head-to-hoof//
In this usage, there's no need to hyphenate this. It's not being used as a modifier.

>shampooed and conditioned my main and tail//
Are you serious? There are a few words that I expect anyone who writes horse words to get right.

>plum colored//
That one does need a hyphen.

>As a further act of contrition//
I'm still not buying why Rarity would be feeling contrite. She enforced her standards and got Berry to abide by them. She should be satisfied, not apologetic.

>Phillydelphia//
You're missing the pun by spelling it that way...

>Making wine is fun, it’s also how I make my living.//
Comma splice.

>He winced l and crinkled his nose at me.//
Jumbled wording.

>in disapproval//
You've been doing well so far, but I'll point you to the discussion on "show versus tell" at the top of this thread for an explanation of why phrases like this are usually empty filler.

>rocked off my flank and barely able to stand on all fours//
This is an oddly candid assessment from her, given that she's been insistent that she can handle her liquor and doesn't actually drink all that much. We have all the evidence we need from her actions, and that disconnect is rather telling of her problem, so it's a little disappointing to see her acknowledge it so readily.

>hoping up and down//
Typo.

>some other pony’s fur under my hooves//
How does that work? They're not like fingernails, where there's actually a space for things to get caught. I don't know where fur would collect or how it would get there.

>you’ve give anything to take back//
Typo and a missing word.

>She didn’t look very happy to see me//
You've got a few spots like this, too, where you draw the conclusion for me instead of describing how she looks and acts and let me deduce how she feels. That said, you get some leeway in a first-person narration.

>Merry was delighted and was practically bouncing on her hooves. She still had her cap and gown on and was carrying her diploma in a new saddlebag. My sister, Sherry, was holding back.//
What's with all the past participles? Besides creating a repetitive feel, it's not really fitting what's around it.

>full grown//
Hyphen needed again.

>Look Auntie Berry!//
Missing comma for direct address.

>I should’ve just left her hold onto it.//
Typo.

>It was a thing of beauty and I had destroyed it.//
This is an emotional climax of your story. At least it should be, except that there is absolutely no emotion here. This is all factual. She's telling me what events occurred, but I'm getting zero evidence as to how she felt about it. Maybe you do so later, but by then, it's to far disconnected from the actual occurrence. Here's where you really need to draw me into her viewpoint and get me to feel what she does. This is the essence of an engaging read. Really, I didn't have too many complaints about the story until now, but this definitely needs some attention.

>I don’t know which was worse—the sound of the frame breaking or the sound of my niece crying.//
>What was the big deal? I was sure they’d replace it.//
I can't see how these two things are compatible.

>I…I…//
I'll finally say something about this. We do see writers use this format sometimes, but I'm never sure whether it's something they were taught, as it's an unusual system. Most common is to put a space between the ellipsis and the word that follows it.

>I sat on my flank on the floor//
What floor is this? The last place you mentioned where she was, it was in the dirt outside the auditorium.

>Forget it! Just stay away. Stay away forever!//
Her daughter's old enough to make this decision for herself, and she was actually happy to see Berry. I could see Sherry saying this for herself, but not for her daughter as well.

>so I hoisted myself up and trudged back to the station//
Comma to set off the dependent clause.

>vomit//
When did this happen, and why did she never mention it until now?

>trip--no//
You've got proper dashes elsewhere in the story, so why not here?

>and wasn’t none too happy //
She hasn't adopted any speech patterns so far that lead me to believe she'd use s double negative like this.

>That won’t do miss.//
Another missing comma for direct address.

>shards of glass got//
Where's the glass coming from? And you have an extraneous space in there.

>When I finally stopped I didn’t even open my eyes, I just lay there//
Needs a comma for the dependent clause, and the comma you do have here is a splice.

>spread eagled//
Another hyphen, please.

I'll also mention this here: You have 52 instances just of "was" in this chapter. I'm sure I'd find more if I checked other forms of "to be." I noticed a lot of them in chapter 1 as well. This is an inherently boring verb. It's much more interesting to read about what happens than what is. You really need to be choosing more active verbs. This is a lot for this word count—more than one every third sentence for "was" alone. That increases to one every other sentence if I include a few more of the common forms of this verb. Some of that verb is fine, but this is too much. I bet you can rephrase things in a more active way for a half of those or more.

>I never placed much stock in things like that.//
This is the fifth straight sentence to begin with "I."

>I kept my thoughts occupied //
The relationship is skewed here. Nothing occupies her thoughts, but her thoughts can occupy her.

>If I couldn’t remember the constellations, I thought I’d made up a few of my own.//
Verb tense.

>but I would get lost and somehow the thing would find me//
She states this as a certainty, while it feels more like a probability, unless she wants to state that she's sure it would happen this way.

>my hopes of reaching Ponyville by afternoon was diminishing//
Subject/verb number disagreement.

>I was relieved but still very uneasy.//
Yes, but give me the symptoms, not the diagnosis. I need to be able to picture this in my head. You're making me do all the work.

>They stood and moved about on their back legs.//
Yes, you already said so.

>Their faces were flat//
Fifth straight sentence that starts with "they" or "their."

>Berryshine…//
Missing a line break.

>the one whom I thought was the leader//
Who

>Their next act really frightened me.//
Yes, but aside from the narrator outright telling me this, I wouldn't know. She's certainly not acting or speaking like she's afraid.

>What do you want from me.//
It's a question, yes?

>No. You are not.//
Why is this not italicized like the rest of their speech?

>That wasn’t much there that looked interesting//
Phrasing

>Little pieces of junk was scattered//
Subject/verb number agreement.

I'l also say here that I'm noticing a lot more word repetition in this chapter.

>Do you think you could find your own home on it?//
More missed italics.

>Then how would pointing out our home on it be any help?//
Another missed line break.

>some bit of the junk that was just laying around//
Lay/lie confusion, but your call on whether Berry would know that.

>My sister and niece? Well, it took a while, but they forgave me, too.//
So, the entire conflict you slowly built up is miraculously solved, and off-screen at that?

Okay, what the hay did I just read?

You spent the first two chapters presenting a nice life challenge for her. As I've said, my main complaints with it are that we got little to no emotional investment in it, and Berry's attitude keeps wavering. It's all presented in a very clinical and dry manner, and Berry herself doesn't seem to react much to it, but at least the premise was there. This was workable.

And then you threw in chapter 3. It had absolutely nothing to do with anything that came before. It's not related to her history or her problem. It does nothing to resolve that problem. It does nothing to shed a new light on her character. It just... does nothing. You could cut that entire chapter from the story, and you'd be better for it. And then the real conflict you'd cultivated all along conveniently goes away. No emotional struggle, no self-discovery, no confrontation with her family. It just goes away.

You had a promising beginning, but then the whole thing ran off the rails. I'd encourage you to punch up the first two chapters with a lot more emotional context and a steady attitude toward her problem, give some thought to how you want to handle the device of having me as a character that she's telling her story, then scrap the last two chapters and reimagine the ending. Resolve that conflict that you spent so long creating. Let me see it unfold in front of me, not just get a half-sentence summary that assures me everything worked out.
>> No. 129456
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Why are her colours muted and melancholy when theirs are bright and cheerful?//
There are plenty of examples of unexciting colorings. Time Turner... Octavia... Caramel... Are you saying that such color schemes didn't exist when this story takes place?

>"Where am I?," she thought.//
Dialogue punctuation.

>She used her somewhat logical brain, to try and piece together her past.//
Unnecessary comma.

>"Hello?" Grey Scale called out once more, becoming nervous.//
I get that you're trying to make this pony very logical and analytical. But that doesn't mean she has no emotion, just that she supporesses it. Yet you've really given me nothing to indicate how she feels about her situation. If she doesn't care, why should I? And then here, where you finally give me some emotional context, it's all tell and no show. Look at the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>Friendly consciousness, do you know the same information as your dark counterpart?//
The very fact that they answer to these titles (and indicated them to her themselves, no less!) really undercuts the dilemma she's having in choosing between them.

>Not really, but you can call me Loyalty if you want.//
Fine point, but I get what you're doing here in trying to suggest this is somehow Rainbow Dash's personality, but it doesn't seem like her as much as the dark one seems like Nightmare Moon. Some of the speech sounds like Dash well enough, but she's pretty lazy, too, and it's not really like her to be so forward in volunteering to help a friend; she more sits back and waits to be asked. And she's only warning Gray Scale about NMM instead of being disdainful toward her. I don't think Dash would be that respectful.

>perfectly preened slate grey//
Hyphenate the compound modifier (slate-grey) and put a comma after "preened." These are essentially coordinate adjectives.

>Yeah, but I think Nightmare just sort of tunes you and I out.//
People often use "you and I" in this manner for fear of getting it wrong. Sometimes "you and me" is correct, as in this case.

>the first sign she saw of civilisation//
Watch the repetition. You used almost the same phrasing a few paragraphs back.

>fenced in//
Another compound modifier that needs a hyphen.

>"My name is Fluttershy..."//
Using a visual effect like font size is a fairly lazy way of getting around actually having to describe the voice in narration. And with regards to this conversation, read the section on "talking heads" at the top of this thread.

>she trailed off//
You don't need to tell me she trailed off when I can already tell that from the punctuation.

>"Well, um, the only alicorns I've ever seen are the princesses and Twilight," -Fluttershy shivered- "And Nightmare Moon..."//
Please use proper dashes. Here's how to capitalize/punctuate an aside like this:
"Well, um, the only alicorns I've ever seen are the princesses and Twilight"—Fluttershy shivered—"and Nightmare Moon..."

>You sorta look like somepony else I know too, but I can't really put my hoof on it...Anyway, her cutie mark was a turquoise crescent moon on a dark purple background.//
So she can't quite remember who this is, yet perfectly remembers her cutie mark?

>Most fled with cries of 'Nightmare Moon!' when they saw her cutie mark.//
So with this much evidence as to what her name might be, what's her motivation to keep thinking of herself as Grey Scale? Might be worth seeing a bit of her thought process on this.

>So you're the one who's been scaring everypony in town, eh?//
How in the world has Rainbow even heard about this yet?

>Rainbow Dash wondered why 'Nightmare Moon' wasn't using any magic.//
Why are you changing perspective here? Check out the section on head hopping at the top of this thread.

>am not, Nightmare Moon//
Why is that comma there?

So, why was Rainbow Dash just sitting around her house if she's been warned about Nightmare Moon? She also has surprisingly little reaction to the injuries she's sustained.

New alicorns are long-standing objects of skepticism in this fandom, and with good reason. They're often too good to be true. Now, I don't see any warning signs screaming at me so far, but we're also not far enough into the story to see exactly what she's going to do. I'd encourage you to wait until you have a couple more chapters or to include a brief outline of your expected plot if you decide to resubmit, so we can see what direction the story will take.

The main issue I'd stress the most is the lack of emotional context to most of what happens. The story focuses on the events that happen at the expense of how the characters feel about it. And then when we do get some emotional content, it's handed to us bluntly instead of through the subtle cues that make for an engaging read.

I'd also caution you on overuse of "to be" verbs. There are 35 instances of "was" alone in chapter 2, and they often get used in clusters. Consider whether you could be choosing more active verbs. "To be" is just boring.
>> No. 129459
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Oh Maker, don't let me be wrong...//
My first impression is that you have an awful lot of "to be" verbs in your opening scene. They're boring verbs. They don't make things happen. This is where you should be grabbing the reader's attention, and active verbs are much better at that. I'll also say that it would help solidify things a little bit if you gave an antecedent for all those pronouns. You use "she" and "her" a lot in this scene. I'd recommend replacing the first instance with something a little more definite, even if it's generic, like "that pony" or some such. Missing a comma for direct address here, too.

Second scene:
There's no reason for this to be in italics. It's already identifiable as a flashback, and it's not a small part of another scene; it's a scene all its own. The point of italics is to make something stand out, but when you make the entire scene stand out, nothing does, and it just gets irritating to read that much italic type.

>the streets had been overflowing with crowds that day, for reasons I'd never kept track of//
This is nonsensical. Why would anyone keep track of reasons why the streets would be crowded? And when not doing so is the default, pointing out that she didn't has no meaning.

>I struggled on the borders of the crowd, trying to resist the forcefulness of the music she controlled//
Watch your misplaced modifiers. By proximity, it sounds like the crowd is trying to resist.

>Atop the stage of a fountain//
What is the stage of a fountain?

>And she kissed me//
She's into kissing random strangers? I hope this ends up meaning something to the story...

>I'd learnt to play their music before I could speak their tongue//
I get that equine anatomy means playing it in a different way, but their music is exactly like ours. Your word choices of "starting from scratch" and "their music" seems to imply she already had knowledge, but had to adapt, yet, like I said, aside from the physical movements, there wouldn't be any need to re-learn what she already knew.

>her speakers set perilously on my bare coffee table, surmounted by a pair of sunglasses//
This really sounds like the sunglasses are on the speakers. There is a real danger of misinterpretations like this when you string together so many descriptive elements in a sentence. And I find that you keep having these lists of participles, absolutes, etc. Take the sentence this comes from: <clause fragment>, <absolute phrase>, <absolute phrase>, <absolute phrase>, <participial phrase>. The more unusual sentence structures stick out more and more quickly create a repetitive feel when you use them too much. And this structure in particular really makes it feel like I'm readin a list. It gets in a rut.

>she looked at me curiously//
You get somewhat of a pass on telly language for a first-person narrator, but not so much when she's describing other people. What does this look like? Describe it and get me to conclude she's curious. You might want to read over the section on "show versus tell" at the top of this thread.

>I muttered, flicking on the coffee maker on the counter, ignoring her//
And another example of stacking elements. It's ambiguous whether they're stacked. It more readily says that the counter is ignoring her.

>like bees to a beautiful flower//
The "beautiful" is irrelevant here, since it has nothing to do with why the bees are there.

>She could have swept the classical scene under the carpet with ease.//
This is a pretty sweeping statement. Are you saying that the Equestrian music scene is so different from ours? If so, it bears mentioning. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, I'm going to assume Equestrian tastes in music are similar to ours. Or are you saying this type of music is new to them? If so, again I need some justification.

>less and less patrons//
"Less" is for collective quantities. You want "fewer."

>her eyes featureless behind tinted glass//
So how can she see them?

>As if she could ever understand my past, that section of myself that none of them could ever understand.//
I don't see the point of the repetition. With some well-placed emphasis, you could call attention to it and thus use it for effect, but as is, it just feels like an oversight.

>like a newborn flinching from a mother's touch//
When does this ever happen? This would be a sign of a medical problem or abuse.

>reaching for the-//
Please use a proper dash.

>"Yes," I cleared my throat, "yes, I think we do."//
Your attribution has no speaking verb.

>"Better than Doe," She smirked, "and Please, call me Vee. Everyone does."//
Same thing, and it's incorrectly capitalized.

>She looked uncomfortable now//
Yeah, you're doing it again. By bluntly informing me of her emotions, you don't make me figure her out, and figuring her out is what immerses me in the story and makes me care about your characters.

>I am still learning myself//
I hope you meant that to work on multiple levels, because it does.

>So what do you play; Violin, double bass...cello?//
Misused semicolon, unnecessary capitalization.

>"Piano," She said mechanically, "Just//
The way you've punctuated this, it's one sentence, so the quote goes:
Piano, just started today...
That sounds odd to me, but maybe you wanted it that way. In any case, you'e got a bad capitalization here, and possibly a second one of those and a punctuation error.

>I heard in the media of her errors//
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

>She was the reason they were there, I was just a sideshow//
Comma splice.

>And as the show came to a close amid roaring applause that first night, and we bowed together, side by side as equals, even in our overwhelming victory, I still managed to hate her.//
And even more oppressively dens description. Look at how front-loaded that sentence is. The main though is "I still managed to hate her," but it gets dwarfed by all the intro.

>If we walked to close together//
To/too confusion

>what I//
Extraneous space.

>dancing under candelabras of spinning gold//
Another phrase that I have no idea as to what it means.

>The theft of my cello case, and my precious necklace within.//
Why is this not indented?

>it's star flashing as I gave chase//
Its/it's confusion.

>"Sunset Shimmer!"//
Okay, you lost me. What possible motive would Sunset have for taking this? The crown had a purpose. She stole it because she needed it to accomplish something specific. She wasn't a petty thief out for monetary gain. If you want me to believe she'd want the cello (or maybe the necklace, and in that case why she knew it was there and why she wanted the cello with it), you'll need to justify it. Lugging that thing around will seriously hamper her ability to get away, and to what end? What possible use does she have for it?

>naked//
Um... Twilight showed up fully clothed. Don't go all Ponyfall on me.

>to keep//
Another extraneous space.

>Her eyes, her heart, her soul ware all the same//
I'm assuming that's a typo.

>The ups and downs show you're alive//
Missing end punctuation.

>Y-Yeah//
Unless it's a word that has to be capitalized anyway, you only do the first one.

>maker//
You capitalized that earlier.

>months....//
One too many dots there.

I hit on most of the points I wanted to make in the detailed items, so just a few more.

This writing is very dense and purple. Besides the stacking up of elements I already noted, it makes sentences ramble on long enough to where they lose focus. Both of those are definite issues at times. The purpleness is subjective. I will say it didn't bother me so much, but I'm unusually tolerant of that. It will turn off a decent number of potential readers, though.

I also touched on the plot problem I had with why Sunset Shimmer stole the cello. And you never hint at whether Octavia ever finds her necklace. There are also some odd deviations, like how the counterparts all have the same names. Why would Octavia adopt a different name, unless she'd encountered that world's version of her, in which case why did nobody find it odd that they looked the same? And why would she adopt a name that doesn't really fit in that world?

We're also left with a weak resolution and odd pacing. There's no big conflict that gets solved at the end—just a reunion that was obvious from the beginning. Some stories can survive with that, and I didn't think this was bad on that front, but just that it doesn't address the aftermath. Did Vinyl come through before or after Twilight, such that they know how to return? Is that the next battle, or are they just going to stay where they are? What kind of doesn't help you here is that you actually did have a stronger conflict earlier: their learning to appreciate each other. And I wouldn't at all recommend taking that out to make the ending stronger in contrast, since it serves another function of justifying their feelings for each other, something that too many romance stories skip over and expect us to take for granted.

And a bit more aout the "to be" verbs. You had 95 instances of "was" alone. That is a huge amount for this word count. You really need to be choosing more active verbs.

So... you made me like a TaviScratch, which is no mean feat. The only things I'd say really have to be fixed are the odd mechanical things, the nonsensical phrasings, get the emotional context less telly, and the dialogue punctuation/capitalization/attribution problems. I'd also recommend you look at the plot points and element stacking/dense prose, but if they're not things you're willing to address, say so if/when you resubmit so I can let a different pre-reader evaluate it for those.
>> No. 129462
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>“I’m your daughter! I need you to love me Mother!”//
Missing comma for direct address. And why is this entire scene in bold? For that matter, why are your flashback scenes in italics? That'd be fine if they were quite short and worked into other scenes, but when you italicize an entire scene, there's really no point. Italics make something stand out, and when an entire scene stands out, nothing in it does. I gather that you may be playing with fonts to indicate time periods, but the narration is really the best place to do that.

>her eyelids opened to reveal jade green eyes and my suspicions were confirmed//
Missing comma between clauses. And hyphenate the compound modifier.

>filly hood//
Fillyhood, as in "childhood."

>we connected in very special way//
Missing word.

>Her bright jade filly eyes alight with excitement. Before I knew it, she teleported a daisy into the center of the room.//
Inconsistent verb tense.

>took on the form of a newly blossomed bud: which she floated over and dropped in front of me//
That's not how to use a colon.

>me. Age//
Extraneous space.

>“That’s not all Mother!” my daughter said triumphantly, “I can go the other way to!”//
I suspected before, but this is the first time I could tell for sure—you're not punctuating/capitalizing dialogue and attributions correctly. And to/too confusion here.

>Everypony in the Empire experienced the magical effect of the array at the same time, yet he had been turned to solid crystal, not unlike a statue!//
She's rather unemotional about this. In fact, she's pretty unemotional, period.

>I do not know my daughter//
Missing comma for direct address again. Unless you're literally saying she doesn't know her daughter...

>He has been drained of his life and love, he is no more.//
Comma splice.

>Anger welled up in her eyes.//
And when you do give us some of her emotion, it's blunt. Have a look at the section on "show versus tell" at the top of this thread.

>He lived a very long life, much longer than mine//
Wait, what? He lived longer than her, yet he died first? That only makes sense if she's significantly younger, but you never explain it, so it just sounds weird.

>he had a flair for her//
Odd word choice.

>I caught her talking to him often; until one day she came forward with the truth and asked for my approval.//
Misused semicolon.

>I was not opposed in anyway//
In this sense, "any way" needs to be two words.

>to nullify the array' effect//
Typo.

>She looked as if she could not believe what she was hearing, “daughter, you must disable the array until we can investigate this further.”//
Capitalization, and your attribution has no speaking action.

>NO!//
Italics are preferred for emphasis.

>The door burst open and a large contingent of guards took position on both sides of the room.//
And just because she declare herself queen, all the guards instantly decide to obey her? This begs so much more explanation.

>clawing at the carpet//
How does she do that without any manner of digits?

I'll be very short here. The elephant in the room is that there's really no emotional investment here. The mother is more interested in listing events for me than telling me how she felt about any of it, and the odd time you do give us any emotional information, it's done in a blunt, telly manner. We get a little more from her daughter, but she's pretty bipolar, swinging erratically back and forth between ingratiating, saccharine, and enraged.

And how does Sombra figure into all this? Just curious.
>> No. 129471
>>129451
I appreciate the feedback. It shows at least one person has read my story! As far as your review is concerned, this is my reply.

I've made some grammatical changes in the story, as well as a few minor changes in content. I should add that this story was the adaption of another story that I wrote a few months ago that I couldn't get to "work" right.

Overall, I stand by the content. Writing is art after all. Would you dismiss Van Gogh's "The Night Cafe" because the pool table is out of perspective?

MM
>> No. 129472
>>129427
Forgive me that something I wrote in the space of two days and never looked at again to keep myself from slitting my wrists offended you so greatly, O wise pre-reader.
>> No. 129475
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:

I'd encourage you to separate the first two sentences as their own paragraph, as they're the only ones that actually have anything to say about the plot. And then decide if that's enough.

Story:

>except for the yellow eyes with red irises and the two mismatched horns//
This description is a bit obtrusive. With the perspective and the way this statement is rendered, it suggests that Twilight had to gather all this information before concluding who she sees, but she should recognize him instantly. Besides, her surprise is a bit dissonant with listing details like this.

>DISCORD!//
Italics are preferred over all caps or bold for emphasis, except in the case of Royal Canterlot Voice.

>Twilight was angry enough to swipe at him with her hoof, planning to grab him and drag him down from where he was hanging upside down from the rafters, but he swung backward out of her way with ease, pulled his head back up to the level of his body, and poofed, to reappear perched on the back of the chair at the desk on the other side of the room like some absurdly huge, misshapen crow.//
Mega-sentence ahoy! These can work in a stream-of-consciousness way, but in a more standard narration, they just tend to ramble on so long that they lose focus without having a stylistic reason for doing so. By the time I get to the end, I've forgotten what the beginning is about. It changes track so many times—if these are all important ideas to cover, let them each get some better focus by splitting this iver a few sentences. If they aren't all important, then cut them.

>she said angrily.//
Check out the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread. You seem to do okay in this department, but right at the beginning of a story is a bad place for telling, since you need to forge a connection with the characters pretty quickly.

>"Are there any dead ones?"//
And this conversation is starting to get a little talking-heads. I have a section on that up top, too. Inject a little more emotion into what they're saying. I imagine a nice expression on her face while she says this, and DIscord's reaction could be funny, but you're making me come up with all that. This is your job.

>....Maybe?//
Three dots in an ellipsis.

>While you're at it why don't you strike a dramatic pose?//
Missing a comma between the clauses.

>one speaking//
Extraneous space.

>Had she heard that right.//
It's a question, right?

>suddenly//
You're using "suddenly" and "abruptly" quite a bit recently. Besides getting repetitive, it suggests that you're relying a bit too much on the narration to create this effect. Unless you telegraph an occurrence, it's surprising by default, just because it appears at all. You can heighten that surprise by using a cutoff or a paragraph break, for instance.

>at the level of right next to her ear//
Awkwardly phrased.

>Are you going to bet your library on the belief that I wouldn't dare to do something randomly destructive for a stupid reason?//
And is he really willing to risk Fluttershy's friendship and Celestia's trust by antagonizing her?

>She wished Spike was here and not over Rarity's//
Missing a word, and when using hypothetical/wishful language, you need subjunctive mood. Fortunately, it's easy to use. "She wished Spike were here..." It's always "were."

>Swing batta!//
Missing comma for direct address.

>(or maybe a rock farm – Twilight had never been to one, so she wasn't sure how they differed from a quarry)//
Parentheses really work best when relaying articles of writing, or maybe in a first-person narration. This could better be conveyed with commas or dashes.

>of rock//
You can cut this, since you've already used "rock quarry" earlier in the sentence. That or remove the earlier instance of "rock."

>I don't even sleep and it put me to sleep.//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>all the others, which was//
Subject/verb agreement.

>limbo'd//
I think "limboed" would be fine.

>chest, but he was suddenly so small he barely came up to her chest//
Watch the repetitive wording.

>long skinny//
Coordinate adjectives need a comma between them.

>bowlegs which bowed//
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>His tongue licking her side.//
I have to think you meant for that to be a comma.

>me!//
You've been good about this so far, so it must just be an oversight, but when you have ! or ? on an italicized word, italicize it too.

>angle , so//
Extraneous space.

>instead of using pointing her horn//
Extraneous word.

>Twilight dropped onto four knees, kneeling//
Yes, that would be the definition.

>Discord's look of smug triumph changed to alarm.//
Yeah, you need to show me this stuff.

>Twilight lowered her head, letting her bangs fall over her eyes and narrowing them so much it would look through her mane like her eyes were closed.//
The last bit is just an irrelevant detail, and since Twilight is the perspective character, it speaks to an intent on her part to want it to look that way, but for no apparent reason.

>cheated!//
>priceless!//
>eternity!//
Same deal with the italicized punctuation.

>laughing uproariously//
It sticks in my head that you've used this phrasing eariler in the story. The more unusual word choice you make, the more likely it'll sound repetitive if you use it again.

>I'll give credit where credit is due, Discord. You make good ice cream.//
She's being awfully accommodating here, given how furious she was about the whole thing from the beginning. It's giving me mood whiplash. I can get that she's pretty self-satisfied here, which can smooth over her mood, but you need to give me that context. I'm not getting much of anything to indicate her mood.

>given my level of superiority//
You'll normally set off participial phrases with commas.

>elements//
You've been capitalizing this.

>He took the rest of his ice cream sundae, all scoops, and dumped the entire bowl over his mouth, eating all the ice cream in a more or less single large gulp.//
That basically says the same thing three times.

>prank!',//
Don't use the comma when there's other punctuation there.

>life or death//
Hyphenate the compound modifier.

To me the two biggest problems with this story are the amount of telly language and the pacing. The number of times you pass up the opportunity to give me emotional context at all (talking heads falls under this as well) and how often you just spoon-feed me the emotions limit the degree to which I'm drawn into the story. And as to the pacing... the whole fight scene was extremely drawn out, the detailed actions pretty superfluous, and most of it ended up being unimportant. I can't help feeling like you could have summarized chunks of it without losing anything. That's really where the story dragged, but that could also be a result of the lack of an emotional reaction from Twilight toward what was happening.

I'll also say that the conflict was on the weak side, but not irredeemably so. Twilight makes an arrangement that I can't see her enjoying—she hasn't expressed a desire for a frenemy, after all. And while we do get an insight into Discord's character, it's not like either one of them actually changed as a result of their interaction. But that's more a comment than a criticism—there's enough here to be serviceable, and it's also an artifact of the story you've decided to tell. But I will encourage you to punch it up a bit. After the reveal, the story wraps up pretty quickly without anyone being affected by the outcome. Discord seems more matter-of-fact than happy, and Twilight is more bland than... I don't know what she should be. Terrified?

This story's not too far away. Just give me the emotional context that will connect me better with the characters and provide more meaning to the ending, and I could see this going up on the blog.
>> No. 129476
>>129471
I would not, in fact, dismiss it for the pool table being out of perspective, because the pool table belongs there and fits with its surroundings.

>>129472
I was not offended by the story at all. I'm just saying I agree with an earlier criticism you received and decided to ignore. I guess I just don't understand why you explicitly asked WRITE for criticism and then again for that implicit in submitting to Equestria Daily, then bristled at actually getting it.
>> No. 129478
>>129476
There's a difference between honest criticism and being a nitpicky dick for its own sake.
Running through and correcting everything when what I asked was "is this sufficient for you round-table discussiony dickwits", that's the latter.
Have no fear, between this and others like yourself I don't plan on pony-wording anytime soon. It's obvious I don't have any talent, why should I do what makes me happiest and makes me feel fulfilled.
>> No. 129479
>>129478

Lolz. Another butthurt writer. Not sure why you bother asking for help if you're just gonna spit in its face.
>> No. 129480
>>129478
Would I have spent two hours reading your story and compiling notes on how to improve it, then post those notes in a place nobody else would see them if my intent was to insult you?

I have a feeling that if all I'd done is give you a flat "no," you'd b upset that you didn't know what needed to be fixed. So you can accept my help and write that much better the next time. Or maybe your way works fine, too.
>> No. 129485
>>129480
If you'd given a flat no I would have gone on my way.
>> No. 129489
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Placing the large angel pony on top of the tree//
More a commentary than a problem with the story, but this makes me wonder what constitutes an angel in Equestria. Though they already named a rabbit that, so it doesn't conflict with canon.

>Placing the large angel pony on top of the tree, Applejack climbed back down the ladder while she blissfully hummed an old Hearth carol to herself.//
Okay, let's revisit this sentence. Participles imply concurrent action, so you have her placing the angel on top of the tree while she's climbing down. That doesn't work.

>to carry it back in to the basement//
I could see this if she were outside, but she's not, so... lose that "in" or change it to "down."

>The sun had begun to set over Equestria that was freshly covered in blanket of snow//
There's snow across all of Equestria? Seems unlikely, and the phrasing's off a bit, too.

>Reaching her hoof into the tree fetching her sister's present, she trotted it over and gleefully dropped it from her mouth into the stocking.//
Missing an "and." Without it, this says the tree was fetching the present. And you have the same synchronization problem with your participles again. She's reaching into the tree at the same time she's trotting over to the hearth. I suspect this will be a recurring issue.

>She treasured the ancient holiday's traditions faithfully observed throughout the generations before her;//
Misused semicolon. You don't have an independent clause after it. You're providing a clarification or definition here, so a colon would be appropriate.

>mistletoes//
That's generally used as a singular, collective term.

>But most of all, Applejack found joy in the spirit of friendship and giving that brought her family together even more intimately after a long year of hard work on the farm.//
There's a fine line here. You're pretty bluntly telling me how Applejack feels about all of this, but you're mitigating it some. The list of traditions you gave is a step in the right direction. Think along those lines here. Give me a couple of short examples here to make this come to life, so I can see it through Applejack's eyes instead of having to take the narrator's word for it.

>Ah' //
What in the world is that apostrophe for? What letters are you contracting?

>who, unbeknownst to her sister, was hiding under a couch in the opposite room.//
Insofar as the narrator is following Applejack around, she wouldn't know this. Now, you could be going for a very objective viewpoint, which is okay, but it makes the narrative less personal, which may not work as well for this story. That's your choice, but I can't help thinking that you're spoiling a surprise by telling me this now. If it's actually important, hold it for when it comes up later.

>She knew well what her sister was referring to.//
So you are taking on a pretty subjective narration then. Yeah, best not to tell me things Applejack couldn't know.

>ah//
And since this is a stand-in for "I," you'll need to capitalize it. That said, the reader knows how the Apple family talks, and they'll largely fill that in for you. Don't go overboard on using imitative spellings for their accent. All of the "Ah" and "ya" spellings are over the top.

>mah'//
Again, what possible purpose does that apostrophe serve?

>This was met with another sigh//
You're using quite a bit of passive voice, too. There are times it provides a valid shift of focus, but all it's doing here is sapping your sentences of action.

>appeased her heart//
Appeased? That's a really odd word choice.

>she shrugged//
How do you shrug a sentence? You need a speaking verb, or else don't use this as an attribution.

>called out to her grandmother from the doorway, who was at the stove//
You need to put the "who" clause right against "grandmother," or it sounds like the doorway is at the stove.

>Howdy Granny!//
Missing comma for direct address.

>has only increased in excitability and amiable silliness with her growing older//
Verb tense, and this is just awkwardly phrased. First, you can assume that readers will already know who Granny Smith is and what she's like. Second, this sentence just doesn't flow naturally. Does this sound like a sentence you might hear someone say, or that a movie voice-over guy might use? Even if you're using very fancy, flowery language, you need to make it sounds like natural speech.

>looked back at her granddaughter winked//
Missing word.

>Though slowed just a little bit in her mind as a result of her age, she was always aware of her granddaughter's pure intentions and understood her concerns.//
More head-hopping. Check out the section on that at the top of this thread.

>She is always delighted//
Another inconsistency in verb tense.

>frozen in joyful fear upon hearing her big sister looking for her in the room she was in//
You have redundant instances of "in," and just more head-hopping (within the same sentence, no less) and awkward phrasing. Read your story out loud. Does this sound like something you'd say if you were telling a story of something that had happened to you as a child?

>With all her excitement returned//
Have a look at the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread. You need to give me the evidence and get me to conclude she's excited, not just tell me she is.

>As Apple Bloom giggled wildly and struggled frantically to run away, her sister playfully grabbed her and tickled her awfully, as Apple Bloom howled with laughter and futilely attempted to free herself.//
It's repetitive to have two "as" clauses in the sentence like this, and that's not even accounting for the problems it causes with the timing of events.

>Despite it's struggle//
Its/it's confusion.

There's just more of the same, so I won't keep pointing out detailed items. The biggest things here are:

Telly language. You need to get us to engage with the characters more, and spoon-feeding us their emotions isn't the way to do that.

Perspectives. Your narrator isn't at all smooth is switching between characters, and I'm not sure that any of the switching is even necessary to the story.

Phrasing. The bulk of the narration just feels unnatural. I could't imagine a real person saying any of this. You have to keep up a good flow to the story, or the writing itself gets in the way. If I'm constantly stumbling over what I read, it just reminds me that I'm reading something and not immersed in a story.

The Apple family accent is overdone. You don't want that slowing down the reader at all.

Overload of "to be" verbs and passive voice. You have 118 instances of "was" alone. These are very boring verbs. You need to choose more active verbs.

Finally, everything is just over-explained. This is related to the telly language, but you spend so much time delving into and spelling out in great detail everyone's motivations and minutiae of trains of thought. You have to leave some of that up to the reader. Subtlety is your friend. You have to give enough evidence to clue the reader in, but then stand back and let him draw his own conclusions. Give your readers some credit.
>> No. 129495
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Bringing the detestable object in front of her eyes, her other hoof slowly began to unscrew the cap.//
Look carefully at what this says. The other hoof is bringing the object in front of her eyes. This doesn't make sense.

>As the cap was removed, a deafening silence was released into the bathroom.//
Are you sure you mean "as" and not something like "after"? I don't see how the silence would be released while the cap is still coming off.

>As she washed away every last trace of that horrid paste//
This is the third straight sentence with an "as" clause. Besides the unintentional synchronization problems that overusing this structure can cause, it just gets your writing in a rut to see that over and over again. Of course, not all of them will be used in this sense, but I count 55 instances of the word in your story. That's a lot for this length. It suggests you're relying on that sentence structure too much, which creates a repetitive feel.

>liquid magma that would boil her skin off, and freezing cold ice-water siphoned directly from the north pole//
Unnecessary comma, and you're dangerously close to a meme there.

>she delicately stepped inside the rushing waterfall, and opened her mouth//
Check out the section at the top of this thread on comma use with conjunctions.

>an impressive array//
Be careful expressing opinions. If the narrator's not deep in a character's perspective, such that he's expressing that character's opinion, you generally want to keep him neutral. And this wouldn't be Octavia's opinion, since it's normal for her.

>octavia//
I assume you can see the problem.

>small, white dollop of innocent looking//
You don't need that comma, as they're hierarchical adjectives, and don't forget the hyphen in your compound modifier.

>gorgeous, mulberry eyes//
Hierarchical adjectives again, and watch that narrative opinion again.

>off the an intricately detailed //
Extraneous word.

>Eventually, she lifted up a comb, and scrupulously straightened out her mane, curling her bangs around a precisely calculated curve//
I've passed over a few of these, but you've got a few participles that are misplaced modifiers. By their proximity in the sentence, it sounds like the mane is curling her bangs.

>She trotted out of the bathroom, picking up a white collar with a pink bow-tie//
Same thing. It sounds like the bathroom is picking up these things. And "bow tie."

>neck, until it rested upon her neck//
Watch the word repetition.

>on the front-page again//
Another inexplicable hyphenation.

>as it was lowered to the floor//
I don't see a need for the passive voice here, and it's sapping the action from your sentence.

>Another quiet sound filled the living room as the case was gently closed and pushed across the soft velvet of the couch. A bow was drawn, carefully, across the strings.//
More unnecessary passive voice. Consider how it's detaching her from these actions. She's your focus (and only) character—cutting that connection just leaves these actions as strangely disembodied.

>a grand hall. Octavia's band was performing at one of the most famous concert halls in Canterlot.//
And as famous as it is, the best our narrator can muster is "a grand hall."

>Frederic sighed. "Where's Harpo?"//
This conversation is a tad talking heads. There's a section on that at the top of this thread, too. The few character actions are all overly terse to the point of being uninteresting, and only about half suggest an emotion. While, I'm overjoyed that you're not being telly here, I do need to get some emotional context.

>3//
Write out numbers, unless they're exceedingly long.

>iterations of measures 40-50 of the first movement, and even during their playthrough of the coda//
Okay, I'm a music guy, and I have to take issue with some of the terminology here. "Iteration" is an odd term to use for this. Depending on the shade of meaning you want and the timing, perhaps something like verse, reprisal, or recapitulation might work. And any movement could potentially have a coda, so don't presume that "the" coda automatically means the last one.

>matter-of-factly//
You're getting a bit telly here. A facial expression might sell this better than bluntly giving me her mood.

>'till//
Accepted spellings are til, 'til, and till.

>band//
This group isn't really something I'd call a band. Probably something like a quartet, chamber ensemble, or some such. Band implies more pop music or a larger group of winds only or winds and percussion. And given what they're playing, your use of words like "wash" and "ripple" really only reference the slow part of that piece. You're not going to evoke any imagery of the up-tempo part?

>a lone painter caught her eye//
Outdoor painting and music during Hearth's Warming? Sounds awfully cold. Having done it, I can say it is possible, but it is miserable, and it's tough to keep your instrument in tune.

>she quickly trotted back towards the stallion, intent on solving the mystery for good//
And another misplaced modifier. It sounds like the stallion wants to solve the mystery.

>stall - which was more like a collection of various belongings than a stall - Octavia//
Please use proper dashes.

>Octavia hesitated//
That's not a speaking action.

>amatuer//
Spelling.

>french//
Capitalize.

>envelopes//
As a verb, "envelops."

>Beauty Brass’//
If you're married to this, fine, but the few style guides that endorse this practice have mostly bowed to common usage. Traditionally, a singular term always takes the full apostrophe-s.

>in an expression of shock//
Telling again. Watch it. You can get away with it sometimes, but this is a pretty big emotional moment.

>Yeah, right.//
Well... why does she do it, then?

>The stallion nodded in understanding.//
Besides being telly, the "in understanding" is empty filler that's completely redundant with the nod.

>the ladies restroom//
Missing an apostrophe.

>Octavia cast one last sidelong glance at the stallion who had unwittingly stolen her heart before vanishing into the ladies restroom.//
Besides the repetitive use of "ladies [sic] restroom," this really sounds like the stallion was the one who went in there since the "who" clause is right there with him.

>out of place stallion//
Another compound modifier needing hyphenation.

>to-do-list//
The second hyphen shouldn't be there. Now, look over the last couple paragraphs. She's sad. Her actions say so. But the narration, which is deeply in her perspective, is decidedly stoic, even slightly humorous. There's a serious disconnect as to what kind of mood you're trying to create.

>She could find the shop where he worked, and perhaps they could find//
Watch the repetition again.

>trudging//
Just used that word two sentences ago. The more unusual a word, the less you can get away with reusing it.

>had began//
had begun

>The pain that radiated up her foreleg startled her.//
Again, this is coming across as a bit sterile. Let the narration reflect her mood. If it startled her, if should startle the narrator as well, since you're using an objective viewpoint.

>like glittering drops of sadness//
Since that's exactly what they are, it's not a particularly effective simile.

>she found herself//
That's a phrase commonly overused by inexperienced writers, and I'm starting to notice how often you use it.

>Trotting along the cobblestone path, Octavia's quiet whimpering was the only sound that broke the silence of the night.//
A genuine dangling participle. Who's trotting? It can't be Octavia, since she doesn't even appear in the sentence. Only her whimpering does, but it can't trot.

>towards the stars, listening to the silence of the night, interrupted only by her own sniffling//
Beware stacking up descriptive elements like this. It can make sentences clunky. And stacking participles can be risky, as it can be ambiguous whether they're nested. For example, does "interrupted..." describe "night," "silence," or "stars"?

>Certainly she had done plenty of stupid things, it was the nature of being a foal.//
Comma splice.

>She'd gone to the academy because that's where everypony who studied music went to.//
Axe that last "to."

>No, she had to be whatever they wanted her to be.//
This is the part I don't follow. Certainly, she has free time to play or compose what she likes. In the absence of direct evidence from canon, I have to assume Equestria isn't too different from Earth, and musicians frequently cross genres without any sort of derogatory treatment. If you want to paint an Equestria that's substantially different, you have to get me there.

>they could go buck themselves//
This really smacks of fan service, particularly since canon use of "buck" has no profane connotations. You don't have to get cutesy to make your point.

And looking at your A/N, I realize you really, really want to make a societal point here, but I'm nowhere close to being sold that dating this stallion would be "throwing her career away."

Summing-up time.

Mechanically, there were a few comma flubs and a bunch of places where hyphens needed to be or shouldn't have been. A few obtrusive examples of passive voice, an over-reliance on "as" clauses and participial phrases with their attendant timing issues and misplaced modifiers. These didn't kill the story, but they need attention. Similarly, look at how many "to be" verbs you use. For the "was" form alone, I counted 136. That's a lot for this word count. These are inherently boring verbs. You ought to be choosing more active verbs.

You went into present tense briefly, and it's unclear to me whether that was a stylistic choice. It could have worked, but it needs to create an effect, and since it was an isolated incident, I couldn't pick up on a thematic purpose for it. Frankly, it felt more like an oversight.

I wasn't getting as much emotion from the story as I'd like. At times, Octavia shows no reaction to things that should be affecting her, at others, that reaction is told bluntly instead of shown to me, and the narrator rarely feels tuned into her in these moments.

Last item: I got quite a bit of dissonance between her love interest and her disdain of high society. You keep hammering me over the head about how bad the aristocracy is, and it felt like I read the same screed three or four times, to the point this starts to read like a personal soapbox than a pony story. It really ends up overshadowing the love interest, too. A common problem in shipping stories is that we're presented with the happy couple and immediately expected to care. We need to see some interaction, history, proof that these characters have chemistry so we'll become invested in their relationship. So go back to the scene where they first meet, the paragraph that starts: "They talked for almost an hour..." You gloss over a lot of their interaction in summary. There's not a lot here to paint a picture, if you'll pardon the reference. Give me more detail here, make it obvious how they feel about each other, show me what thoughts run through her head as she spends time with him. You need to draw me into this moment, as it sets up everything that follows. Put her emotion, her thrill, her giddiness, her joy on full display here, and it'll bring the whole story alive.

As to not tagging this story as shipping... well, I'm on the fence. Less than half the story is spent on the romance, yet it's what drives everything that happens. If it were my story, I'd use that tag, particularly considering the advice I just gave you, but I'll leave that up to your discretion.

I actually liked this story. Not that that's required—a good story is a good story, whether or not I like it—but I think you can make this light up with a little more attention. Give this another whirl and submit again when you're ready. I'd like to be able to post it on the blog.

Last edited at Tue, Jan 14th, 2014 21:55

>> No. 129502
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement. However, there wasn't much to point out for this story, so I was pretty thorough.

>their heads held down in shame//
The "in shame" is pretty telly and redundant with the action.

>That’s all!?//
It's more common to italicize a ! or ? that goes with an italicized word.

>With them two gone//
Typo.

>she turned to face Twilight, jumping in place just a bit as she saw her friend//
A common danger of participles: misplaced modifiers. Who's jumping? Most writers would mean for Dash to be, but the grammatical assumption is Twilight. In any case, this one's perfectly ambiguous.

>as if visibly swallowing her pride//
The problem with making a simile for a visual effect on her is that she's the perspective character, so it's oddly detached for her to think about herself like this.

>I-don’t-see-the-problem expression//
While the description is cute, it does nothing to help me picture it. I don't know what this would look like.

>“But Cloudsdale is at its apogee from Ponyville?”//
Huh? Canon maps imply its location is fixed.

>it’ll be night and I won’t be able to pull them all by myself in time to start the snowfall//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>a look of complete disbelief//
Yeah, you need some help with telling. Read over the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>Spike asked, finally getting a chance to add his own thoughts into the conversation//
Wait, when did he show up? For that matter, how did Twilight get there? It's peculiar to have your characters pop up out of nowhere.

>And with that//
Phrases like this, in which the narration refers to itself, are a bad idea.

>2//
Wait, these are your scene markers? They're a bit... stealthy. I'd encourage you to use a longer string of characters or the bbcode [hr], and leave a blank line after it.

>itself - she//
Use a proper dash, please.

>an eyebrow raised in curiosity//
More of that telling.

>her tone a mix of professional and wonder//
That's pretty telly too. Tone's a tricky thing to get at—you'll probably have an easier time of describing her actions.

>giggled with amusement//
No.

>laughing stock//
One word.

>blinked - in all of the years she’s had//
Dash and verb tense.

>“ground”//
Really odd for her to put these quotes on here when it'd be the norm for her.

>she let her body finally slump with the weariness it felt//
You could drive this home with some more vivid and extensive description here. It'd bring this part alive.

>* * *//
Give me line breaks around this so it actually stands out.

>A soft pop!//
Don't do onomatopoeia in the narration. It's a valid word. Just use it normally.

>reaching over the bed and nuding a snoring lump on the bed//
Repetition of bed, and a very unfortunate typo.

>a look of perplexion upon her face//
Still no.

>with a worried frown//
*sigh*

>so sure in herself//
The phrasing I've always heard is "sure of herself," but if this is one you've heard where you are, then go with it.

>distances - from//
Maybe these are just en dashes that aren't translating to FiMFiction well, but they sure look like hyphens to me.

>her tone one of defeat//
C'mon. Show this through her body language. it's how you connect me to the character. You get me to put myself in her mindset and fiure her out.

>Twilight protested, setting herself firmly on the cloud and closing her eyes.//
You're falling into a repetitive sentence pattern. Look at your dialogue attributions. They're almost always "Speech," she said, <participial phrase or absolute phrase>. It's getting in a rut.

>A warm pulsing sensation slid up her horn as she concentrated, imagining herself, Rainbow Dash and their blanket of clouds and then imagining them above Ponyville.//
Watch your perspective. You started the scene in Rainbow Dash's head, so why are you wandering over th Twilight's now? Look at the section on head-hopping at the top of this thread. The important questions are: Is this information necessary? Could have have still been related through Dash's perspective based on emotional cues she sees? Or could the prior part have been converted to Twilight's perspective? It may be that this is warranted, but give it some thought.

>but this time you’re making an object disappear and reappear instantaneously. But it has to be in that bubble.//
The back-to-back "but" clauses give a double-negative feel.

>Rainbow Dash blinked, trying to make sense of everything.//
And see, you're just as quickly back in Dash's head. If you couldn't stay with Twilight more than a couple paragraphs, it probably wasn't that important.

>“You mean when Pinkie Pie decides to be obnoxious? Yeah.”//
By this point, the conversation is getting a little "talking heads." There's a section on this at the top of the thread, too.

>snowfall - they//
Dash.

>Dash offered a small chuckle that had not even a hint of amusement to Twilight’s ears.//
And you're back in Twilight's perspective again... The early parts of the story didn't do this. Here's another spot where this would be a lot more powerful if you painted me a picture of her body language and facial expression.

>Peppermint Hot Apple Cider//
Why is this capitalized?

>There was more to it than that, Twilight knew.//
And one paragraph later, back in Twilight's head. See how jerky this is?

>She could hear the disappointment in Rainbow Dash’s voice//
Yes, but she's looking right at her! What does she see?

>finishing her mug in one final gulp//
"Finishing" and "final" are pretty redundant.

>her eyebrow raised with curiosity and suspicion//
Please... no more...

>shaking her head in amused disbelief
*weeps openly*

Kidding aside, this was a pretty good story. Most of the fixes needed are easy ones. Fix the telling, the repetitive dialogue attributions, the few hyphen/dash issues, and please space out the scene breaks.

Those shouldn't bee too hard. Ironing out the perspective shifts will take some more thought, however. And the last thing I want to bring up is the underwhelming end. It finally snowed after all that trouble, and... nobody was that excited about it, except Pinkie. Everyone else just threw some offhand comment out, and Applejack seemed to be about to get on her soapbox about class warfare. It's weird. Things just fizzled out. And then you close on a line that seems like it was trying to be funny, but was just left hanging there. And if it's really that close to bedtime, why are none of them showing any signs of being tired? Why aren't the ones who are known to have family spending this holiday with them? And those poor weather factory workers who had to pull a late shift on Hearth's Warming Eve...

I get that you had a conflict built up, but you defused it rather than resolved it. What bad thing would have happened if it had never snowed? Really, nothing, since everyone was resigned to that without any apparent ill effects. It had no teeth. Make it so that it matters how things turn out.
>> No. 129506
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>There's a new bar in town; Raised In A Barn//
Misused semicolon. You're giving a definition or clarification, so go with a colon.

>And, Vinyl//
There's no reason for that comma.

Story:
>"What? I don't have a drinking problem!"//
>Berry Punch was appalled at the accusation of her having a drinking problem.//
Well... yes. You're basically repeating what the quote already said. And then you're conveying some emotional context in a very blunt fashion. It's better to present me with her body language, facial expression, etc, and get me to interpret her emotion. See the section at the top of this thread on show versus tell. Also, you never do tell me what's going on in this scene. Where is she? Who's talking to her? And if Berry's somewhere discussing a drinking problem, why in the world does she think it'll be a good idea to work in a bar?

>The mare - whose color she could not remember after that night, nor the color of her mane, just her icy blue eyes - she was speaking to replied://
Please use proper dashes, not hyphens. And why are you placing the speech in a different paragraph than the attribution?

>clearly exasperated//
Show me this. Writing's so much more powerful when you get me into the characters' heads and make me identify with them. By telling, you short-circuit that.

>Okay dear!//
Missing comma for direct address.

>Berry Punch made a quick gallop for the knob of her cottage//
The cottage presumably has more than one door... and even if not, that just sounds weird.

>Vinyl waved the thing in her hand.//
Wait, what? She has a hand?

You're inconsistent about italicizing question marks and exclamation marks that go with italicized words.

>"Plus, I'll make sure you don't drink too much," - Vinyl winked - "And even if you do end up having a hangover, I'll look after Piña Colada."//
Here's how to do an aside in a quote. Pay attention to the capitalization and punctuation.
"Plus, I'll make sure you don't drink too much—" Vinyl winked "—and even if you do end up having a hangover, I'll look after Piña Colada."

>"Lyra's sick and Bon-Bon has a voice acting gig."//
These conversations get dangerously close to talking heads at times. There's a section on that up top, too.

>"Already coming," Vinyl went into puppy-dog mode.//
There's no speaking action in your attribution.

>"It was good, mama," Piña Colada poured some milk into a cup.//
Same thing.

>Oreo's//
No apostrophe here. And why are you using human brands? Does it really matter that it's specifically Oreos?

>letting her mind wonder//
You probably meant "wander."

>Berry Punch put opened the door//
Typos.

>Berry Punch did not make much money at the shoe factory she worked at and did not have much money for luxuries.//
Repetitive wording, and you really have to find a more elegant way of working expository information into the narration without just dropping it on me.

>Taste Of Neighsa was the Neighsan restaurant Sweet And Sour worked at.//
Same thing re: inelegant exposition.

>"People love the new Sweet And Sour Chicken,"//
Is that implying they eat chicken or a "Scootaloo is a chicken" reference? Either way, just no.

>Freshman//
Why is this capitalized?

>she heard a knock on her door and Berry Punch walked down and opened the door//
Missing comma between the clauses and repetitive use of "door."

>her hair was pulled back into a French braid and she was wearing a green skirt with a flower tucked into her hair.//
Check out the section on comma use with conjunctions, too.

>THAT//
Italics are preferred over bold or all caps for emphasis.

>The walk to Raised In A Barn//
Why does the size of the indent change for the rest of the story here?

>it said 'Raised In A Barn'//
Given that we already know that to be the bar's name, I don't see the point in saying so.

>An Hour And Several Drinks Later...//
Why don't you actually show us some of this?

>Extrovert//
That is a really, really, really strange name for a pony.

>and would be due any day now//
I see you did your research on the gestation period of ponies, but she was already showing at the beginning of that eleven months.

I guess I'm kind of at a loss as to what I can say succinctly about this. It's very telly, for oe. It's also incredibly rushed. None of the scenes give the reader any breathing room to get to know the characters or watch them react to what's happening. It just all blows by so quickly. There's also not much in the way of conflict. A few events happened, but what was the importance of it all? What was at stake? There needs to be something that a main character wants and a struggle to get it, with the implication that something bad will happen if she doesn't get it. That's really the foundation for writing, except for a pure character piece, but those are hard to write well.
>> No. 129507
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>new found//
One word.

>King and Queens monstrous army//
Missing apostrophe.

>Or will they witness the destruction of their home, first hand?//
Unnecessary comma and "firsthand." Also note that rhetorical questions in a synopsis are pretty weak.

Story:
>The raging heat is felt across its dirt streets//
Given that we have no characters yet, who's feeling the heat?

>darkened sky is revealed by plumes of smoke//
Smoke reveals the sky? And dark sky at that? I have no idea what you mean.

>Her dark indigo mane waves in the thermals that now plague the air and her wings ache with every furious beat.//
See the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>She lands near the centre square of the town weakened and out of breath.//
You'll normally set off a participle with a comma.

>smoke filled air//
Missing a hyphen in your compound descriptor.

>“Hello.” She calls.//
Also see the section on dialogue punctuation and capitalization.

>as she begins to feel emotions of anxiety and loss//
Yow. It doesn't get much more telly than that. I also prescribe the section on show versus tell.

>Without warning her emotions take control of her as, she in unable to stop crying//
Some botched syntax there.

>The young Alicorns eyes//
Missing apostrophe.

>As the Alicorn begins to focus on the ruins, her heartbeat quickens, soon it is the only sound she can hear.//
Comma splice.

>lone walls//
The fact that "walls" is plural kind of defeats the use of "lone."

>its limbs flex and bends//
Subject/verb agreement.

>a might bellow//
Typo.

>Their wings bearing the silver glint that broke her mesmerized state.//
Fragment and close repetition of the "silver glint."

>One of them turns; her brilliant green eyes fixated on the shocked princess.//
Misused semicolon.

I've noticed by now that it's incredibly rare for you to start a sentence with anything but the subject.

>More footsteps begin to echo in the town.//
This is the 15th of 35 instances of "begin" in your story. Besides being a nearly useless verb, you really need to avoid repetition like this. It gets your writing in a rut.

>Gale jokingly jests.//
That's pretty redundant.

Why are none of these ponies surprised by the changelings' size? Besides Chrysalis, they've never seen one any bigger than a normal pony.

There's really no plot or characterization to speak of yet, so I'm mostly looking at the mechanics, and I've already spelled out what the consistent problems are. You're also well below the required word count for a submission.
>> No. 129509
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Queen Leisha watched over her kingdom proudly. She smiled as her subjects pranced around in small happy jumps of excitement.//
And you're already off on the wrong foot. The beginning of a story is an especially bad place to use telly language, since you need to make your characters immediately engaging. Check out the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>The little fillies and colts loved her, and played with her whenever she was out walking-which was quite often.//
Please use a proper dash. And also see the section on comma use with conjunctions.

>"My Queen?" A guard asked from behind.//
...and the section on dialogue punctuation/capitalization.

>Yes Commander Silver?//
Missing comma for direct address.

>the up most respect//
utmost

>Leshias'//
Misplaced apostrophe.

>5th//
Spell out numbers unless they're quite lon.

I'm getting very muted emotional responses from everyone except the queen, and hers are completely out of context—she keeps wondering what she's done, but we don't see any physical evidence of how it makes her feel.

>He look at her//
Verb form.

>The silver fur looks familiar... But there are a ton of silver coated stallions in the kingdom. His light green eyes are different though. I've only known 1 silver coated green eyed pony in the kingdom. He must be him.//
This lacks in subtlety. It's just leading me by the hand through what I'm supposed to think. That's not a good way to keep the reader interested.

>No No No.//
Capitalization.

>That sure shut her up.//
And why the sudden jump into his perspective? Have a look at the section oon head hopping, too.

>"Who are you?//
Some uneven indentations in this chapter.

>Your in the kingdom of jewels.//
Your/you're confusion.

>That is why I helped this kingdom!!!//
One exclamation mark is plenty.

>It felt as if something had began to corrupt her heart.//
So show me! Don't make me take the narrator's word for it.

>Not to long ago//
To/too confusion.

>After weeks of meals that would make your stomach turn over//
Why is your narrator addressing me?

>E-Excuse//
Only capitalize the first part of a stutter unless it's a proper noun.

>~Pearl.//
~ is not proper punctuation.

>Pearl was sitting there smiling, and finally said,
>
>"Glad your feeling better."
Why are you putting a paragraph break between the attribution and dialogue?

Okay, there's just more of the same. Besides the consistent mechanical problems, the emotional context either isn't there or is done without any subtlety, and I keep encountering awkwardly worded sentences. You also have repetitive sentence structures. Look how rarely you begin a sentence with anything but the subject, and look how many of those opening words are the same. And look at how many "to be" verbs you use. There are very boring verbs. You need to choose more active language. There were 34 instances of "was" alone in the last chapter. There's just a lot that needs to be addressed with the writing itself before I can even look at characterization and plot.
>> No. 129513
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>Their Queen//
Why is "Their" capitalized? And you didn't capitalize "Queen" the other time you used it.

Story:
>egg sacks//
egg sacs

>Queen Chrysalis sat in the middle of the swarm, looking smugly forward at the platform and the five ordinary changeling drones that sat upon it.//
Participles can often be misplaced modifiers. By their proximity in the sentence, it sounds like the swarm is looking smugly forward.

>Off to the right, one of the changelings watching the proceedings transformed into a gray stallion, “Those changelings are terrible. I hope the Princesses do something about them.”//
You've punctuated this like an attribution, but there's no speaking verb.

>One to the left turned into a unicorn mare, “Don't worry sweetie, those changelings are gone.//
And you're doing it again.

>in an ever more disgusted face//
Don't just tell me she's disgusted. Describe how she acts and appears so that I deduce her disgust. Have a look at the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread. For that matter, also read the part about talking heads, as this conversation has shown no emotional context for anyone by Chrysalis.

>as We wish to institute an incentive-based pay scale, as We feel it is more effective//
Watch stacking up the "as" clauses like that. It makes your writing repetitive.

>A-Are you sure?//
Only capitalize the first part of a stutter, unless it's a proper noun.

>you know, the basics//
Wait, why is the narrator talking to me?

>7th//
Write out numbers this short.

>Pandemonium enveloped the room.//
I... don't even know where to start. There's playing it dry, but this is to the extreme. And I have no idea what's happening. You're asking me to invent the funny scene for you, but this kind of humor comes from surprise, and I'm not going to be surprised by something I thought of myself.

>Can thou believest that?!//
Why does she speak in this manner for the grand total of one sentence? And at least get it right. "Canst thou believe that?"

>The five looked at Luna's detailed invasion map. They glanced around before focusing their attention back onto the map. A few changelings poked their head out of the chamber and looked down the tunnels for any signs of the alicorns. Several other changelings walked up to the map nonchalantly. The five once again looked around, as if the alicorns would return at any moment.//
Your story suffers from a lot of this. You're just listing action after action. There's no emotion to it, no zing, no atmosphere. You can only get away with that during an action scene.

>It's uses could greatly enhance Us.//
Its/it's confusion.

>The five ignored her adorable antics and stood up//
What's your perspective here? If they're ignoring her, then they wouldn't notice it was adorable. So who is it that the narrator's speaking for when he judges it so?

>green slim//
Typo.

>exoskeletons//
Okay, let's go back to the part where one of them was holding a bag of frozen peas. How do you bruise an exoskeleton?

>fifteen hundred page//
Hyphenate your compound descriptors.

>That's beneath me,.//
Typo.

>Los Pegasus//
Iirc, the writers said this was a play on Las Vegas, not Los Angeles.

A/N:
>who's//
whose

First: this was funny. Not the kind of thing I could read multiple times and get a laugh out of it each time, but for a one-time read, the jokes were more hit than miss.

However, there is quite a bit of work to be done still. The emotional investment isn't there, and it manifests in a couple of the things I pointed out: telly language and listing actions at the expense of emotional content. So you've got spots throughout the spectrum. Action without emotion is boring. Telly emotion can keep up interest, but it's not engaging or memorable.

Now, a word about your use of colors and fonts. The tentacle creature's font was difficult to read. There are places where it obscures the words on the line above or below it as well. This is a bad thing. But backing off from that specific example, I never saw a need for it. I know why you did it. I'm just saying it didn't work. I'm guessing you like Pratchett and the way he uses a special font for Death. Why that works is because he goes into quite the description the first time he uses it in any given book of how that speech sounds. And with that explanation, the font becomes meaningful. When I see it again, I automatically hear it the way Pratchett described it. You don't. Small-caps green font only means the hive is speaking, as far as I know, but that's already obvious, so it adds nothing. When Twilight switches from black speech to purple, how am I supposed to hear that any differently? You'd have to describe how it sounds different, and then given that it's only a few sentences, it's not really worth running with that gimmick, because the explanation alone would already give me what I need t hear it right. Bottom line: the only one of these that I'd think could ever work is the hive's speech, and even then, you need to tell me up front what it signifies about the sound or how it's perceived so that it actually has a use.

As to the mechanics, you seem to be laboring under the delusion that any random action sitting against speech can be joined to it with a comma, sometimes even on both ends. To the former: only if it's a speaking action, and to the latter: no.
>> No. 129517
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>The Hearth's warming pageant is coming up and Rarity is given the unique opportunity to make Princess Luna a dress for the occasion.//
I'll grant you that synopses aren't the easiest things to write well. First, it really helps to keep things active, so the passive "is given" doesn't provide an engaging hook. You need a comma between the clauses (see the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread). And capitalize the whole occasion, "Hearth's Warming."

Story:
My first impression gets delayed. I've just read your synopsis and decided I'm interested enough to move on to the story, and the first thing I get is the author's note. It really pushes me out of the bit of immersion I already got from the synopsis. You need to keep me engaged. I'd recommend moving the A/N to the end.

>“Sister, the Hearth’s Warming pageant is just around the corner! Whatever shall we do?”//
After a few paragraphs, I finally got to why she was agitated. But it's only a reason for her to be agitated, not Celestia as well. So why the "we" here?

>Celestia didn’t bat an eye as she continued signing through Equestria’s tax reforms, “It’s still three weeks away, Luna. No need to get yourself worked up quite yet.”//
You've punctuated the lead-in as if it were an attribution, but you have no speaking verb. You can't just take any random action and attach it to a quote with a comma.

>ruffling her wings in agitation//
Telly, specifically the "in agitation" part. Read the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread, which directly addresses this type of phrasing.

>Her own desk, covered in paperwork from days of foreign diplomatic meetings, all utterly ignored in the Lunar Princesses current predicament.//
This isn't a complete sentence. Fragments can work for effect, but usually as follow-up comments and when in a subjective viewpoint, neither of which you have here, so it feels more like an oversight. You also have a plural where you need a possessive (Lunar Princess's).

>“Come now, sister,” Celestia smiled patronizingly as she lowered her quill, “It’s not like you to act the filly around this time of year. It’s just a pageant, Lulu.”//
Same deal with the non-speaking-action attribution, but you've also punctuated it like the quoted sentence is continuous, yet you haven't capitalized it that way. Have a look at the section on dialogue punctuation and capitalization, too. And that "patronizingly" is telly. Show me how it looks and let me determine the emotion on my own. If you write it well, I'll get where you want me to go.

>Well sister//
Missing a comma for direct address.

>It’s simply the way it is, sister//
When used as a term of address, "Sister" would be capitalized.

>Sweetie Belle peeked down the stairway//
Missing a period (though I suspect you would have put a comma there).

>Rarity didn’t seem to hear her sister leave//
Who holds your perspective here? Not Sweetie Belle, because she's gone. Not Rarity, because she wouldn't use "seem" here; she'd know explicitly whether she heard her sister leave. Opal? I can't tell. Such is the danger of having your narrator make judgments. We have to know whose judgments they are.

>ignoring the unicorns whining//
Missing apostrophe.

>The items around her feel to the ground in a shocked clatter//
Typo. And how exactly would the items or clatter be shocked?

>Rarity wrung her hooves nervously as the train rattled along the tracks. She glanced nervously out the compartment’s window at the rapidly approaching city against the mountainside.She was furiously listing off all the eight hooves high ponies she knew and not many came to mind.//
Missing a space before the last sentence. Look at the emotions here. They're all being spoon-fed to me: furiously, nervously (used in successive sentences—watch the repetition).

>It took a moment of terrified cowering on the seat before she realized the train had only gone into a tunnel.//
And given the number of times she's been to Canterlot, this surprises her?

>Just...//
It's much more common to leave a space after an ellipsis, unless it's at one end of a sentence, but if you're married to this, it isn't unheard of.

>“I want you to escort her to me. I do not expect her to get into trouble in a city such as this, but getting lost is easy for one not accustomed to the city’s layout.”//
Rarity's been to the palace how many times by now? Off the top of my head, I can think of 5 times in canon.

>The wisp’s blue light blinked twice in union with each other.//
I have no idea what this is supposed to be saying.

>Luna turned to her wisps a look of panic on her face.//
Missing comma, besides being very telly, and why does she have more than one of them now?

>What do you mean there is no ‘E’ in Olde anymore?//
How would that "E" have even been audible?

>the guard asks//
Why the switch to present tense?

>deva//
diva

>she said trying to recover from the embarrassment she just experienced.//
Most times, you'll set off a participle with a comma. And the telling again!

>W..wait!//
Do a stutter with a hyphen, do an ellipsis.

>she would of seen//
Would have. C'mon. That's a rookie mistake.

>hearth's warming//
You've been inconsistent at capitalizing this and using the apostrophe.

>back side//
One word.

>it’s place//
Its/it's confusion.

>visibly darkened//
As opposed to...? Audibly darkened?

>a brush floated up too her hair//
Too/to confusion.

>your Majesty//
You're also inconsistent at capitalizing the full honorific.

>Cutie mark//
More inconsistent capitalization.

>“Very well then,” Rarity started with a smile. “Shall we get started?”//
Watch the word repetition.

>Her horn shined brightly//
"Shined" takes a direct object. You want "shone."

>T-thank//
Think of what sound would actually be repeated. Th-thank.

>Oh! well…//
Capitalization.

>Rarity”//
Missing punctuation.

>legs - gracefully//
Please use a proper hyphen.

>beautiful!’
This needs to be a double quote.

>as those word’s left the seamstresses muzzle//
And now that you finally use an apostrophe, it's wrong, and you ironically have a spot a few words later that needs one.

>she looked as if she was about to choke on pure embarrassment//
This scene had held to Rarity's perspective, but how does she know what her face looks like? And then in the following sentence, you're definitely in Luna's perspective. Have a look at the section on head hopping, too.

>the sudden heavy quiet//
Missing end punctuation.

>Somewhere in Ponyville, one Pinkie Pie suddenly had a massive attack of the trembles and started checking for violently swinging doors.//
Why does this constitute a scene?

>“W-well, I...’//
Another mismatch of quotes.

>Oh, no, t-take your time~!//
~ is not proper punctuation.

>infront//
Typo.

>We..//
Three dots in an ellipsis.

>Luna looked down at the table//
She was already doing so. You don't need to tell me again.

There are obviously a number of persistent mechanical problems here. Now, while this was a cute story, it suffers from a common issue with shipping stories. Simply put, the characters are shoved together, and the reader is expected to share the author's enthusiasm for the pairing. There's nothing presented to make it believable. Luna and Rarity have encountered each other briefly before, but no reference is made to that. Luna is just suddenly going to have romantic thoughts because she shares close quarters with her for a single night? And Rarity conveniently reciprocates? It's your job to make this relationship seem natural. You have to justify it to the point that it makes sense this could happen. There's no latent attraction? Neither one of them thinks fondly on the few times they'd met before and noticed things that endeared the other to them? Sometimes it takes starting from square one, and sometimes we can see the happy couple already together, but in either case, it takes showing me that they have reasonable chemistry together and that it all develops in a natural way.

It's like the difference between turning on a sad movie just in time to see someone die and watching the whole thing to know exactly what's being lost. One's got some default, superficial emotional reaction, but the other contains the real investment that makes me care about the characters. All that was here was a single kiss and a few moments of being comedically uncomfortable. Neither one really even had an emotional reaction to what was happening romantically. Luna basically admits that the wisp is acting partly to voice her libido, and Rarity is blissfully oblivious... until she's already magically in love. It takes a deeper picture of a relationship to stand out above all the other shipping stories we receive.
>> No. 129518
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>knock//
>Knock knock knock//
Don't put sound effects in the narration like this. Just describe it.

>She intended to give whomever was knocking a piece of her mind.//
That's actually a situation fo "whoever." It's the subject of the noun clause "whoever was knocking."

Big Mac's accent is coming across too thick. Ya, mah, Ah... The reader knows how he sounds and will fill it in for you. It's more about word choice and phrasing. You don't want to make it difficult to read or have something like this draw attention to the narration itself.

>Twilight began plotting the most efficient sequence to wake each pony.//
Don't summarize, especially since this wouldn't happen instantaneously. Take me through a couple of these thoughts.

>knowing//
If you're going to clip the g's off his words, be consistent about it.

I'd encourage you to take advantage of FiMFiction's [hr] bbcode character to draw a more definitive scene break.

>“Rainbow Dash! That’s not helping. Show some decorum.”//
Since this is the first time she speaks, and it's not a cold open, you probably shouldn't go without attributing it. And it's standard to italicize a ! or ? when it's on an italicized word.

>Dash zipped away.//
C'mon. Good chance for a bit of comedy here. Give me a little body language or facial expression.

>“Actually, the anandamide in chocolate is a natural mood enhancer.”//
You should attribute this, too. It wasn't clear to me that this wasn't Pinkie speaking until I got to the next paragraph. Since Pinkie and Rarity were the two most recent conversants, the assumption is the unattributed dialogue will be one of them, unless it has an very distinctive voice.

>ya’ll//
You spelled this right the first time you used it. Why not here?

>Fluttershy jumped as she felt something small brush her legs as it flit by.//
The stacked "as" clauses are repetitive, and there's a verb tense problem at the end there. Also watch the perspective here. You started the story in Twilight's head, but since then, it's really backed off into an objective viewpoint. Little dips into a character's perspective like this are fine in that case, but you ought to keep things even. If you do this very irregularly, it feels more choppy. But don't fall into the trap of making very abrupt switches into a deep perspective, either. It's a delicate thing to get right.

>Apple Bloom emerged from the forest of legs to throw her forelegs around her sister.//
To avoid repetition of "legs," you might want to rephrase the hug.

>‘bout//
Smart quotes never get leading apostrophes right. This one's backward. I bet there are others. Do a sweep for these.

>He shot a glance towards Applejack and she nodded.//
Needs a comma between the clauses. There's a section at the top of this thread that explains comma use with conjunctions.

>The old mare was as good as her word and the girls soon found themselves seated in the Apple living room.//
Same thing. And "Apples' living room" probably works better.

>Applejack noted with silent gratitude that Rarity withheld her usual comments on the absolute necessity of owning at least one fine china set.//
Careful. Your perspective's starting to jump around. This is AJ's, and the previous sentence wavered very close to Rarity's.

>Dash ignored the glares coming her way.//
See, unless you say how someone else interpreted her behavior this way, you're in Dash's head now.

>darling//
You're also falling into the fandom conceit that Rarity says this all the time. This is already at least the third time I've seen it, while canon Rarity only says it maybe once every other episode (yes, someone's done the research), and I can't remember her doing it more than twice in any episodes.

>one notch above semi-solid//
Piling on vague degrees makes something even more vague. One notch above solid, I could see, but semi-solid is pretty nebulous to start with.

>She also reached for the sugar bowl, adding one spoonful before passing it to Pinkie//
Watch your participles. They can often be misplaced modifiers. By proximity, it sounds like the bowl is adding a spoonful.

>“We’ve found evidence//
When the previous paragraph ends with a quote, and the next starts with another by the same speaker, you can leave the closing quotation marks off the previous paragraph.

>blinked several time//
Typo.

>Might be that thick accent o’ yours//
My point exactly about the Apple family accent. It's overdone. You mention the doctor's, but you didn't write one for him at all. And it didn't end up mattering. Though if you want the reader to hear one, you should mention this before he speaks.

> No Apple, and Ah mean No Apple//
Why is that second "no" capitalized?

>ice-water//
No hyphen here.

>Pinkie piped up with a question//
And yet she never asked one...

>shuteye//
Shut-eye.

>“Actually… I do know of a way we can find out tonight.//
Forgot to close those quotes.

>bleary eyed//
Hyphenate your compound modifiers.

>Twilight purposefully ignored Rainbow’s question and instead kept her eyes to the floor as she stalked into the kitchen. Cabinets being flung open followed by the sound of clinking glass could be heard.//
Perspective again. You start in Twilight's head (only she could know it was "purposeful"), but by the end of the same paragraph, you're in an indeterminate one, but definitely not Twilight's, since she's the one making the noise. Don't switch perspective within a paragraph.

>She returned with a tumbler and a bottle of scotch held aloft in her magic//
Okay, you kind of veered off the track there. She's never dealt with any interpersonal crises remotely like this, even ons involving her friends, even ones that were her fault. Look at how she behaved in "Magical Mystery Cure" after being th one who caused all the trouble. And despite canon instances of cider (maybe not) and salt licks (definitely) being intoxicating substances, she's never seen to care much for either one.

>thaumantic//
You spelled it "thaummantic" last time you used it. And since it's not really a thing, I guess you can use what you want, as long as you're consistent.

>Thaumantic overdoses are incredibly rare so there isn’t much information//
Needs a comma between the clauses again.

>...so that’s it then?//
A leading ellipsis os really for completing an earlier quote that got interrupted or for the speaker just becoming audible. You don't really have either here. In any case, not having the former means that you should capitalize this anyway.

>INJUSTICE! Injustice, I say!//
Italics are preferred for emphasis. And her word choice here is rather melodramatic. She's been given a big shock, so she's not immediately going to scoop up some big words. She's going to blast out whatever comes into her head as a reflex, which would be pretty raw emotion. You had me going with pretty accurate character reactions so far, but this one doesn't quite ring true.

>Twilight’s own eyes narrowed at underlying accusation.//
Missing word.

>“How long have you known, Twi?” Applejack sat in front of the case which had once held the Elements of Harmony, running a hoof along the glass.//
That body language kind of doesn't suit her mood here, unless you do something to explain it more. I'm of a mind of a drill sergeant running his finger over some insignificant surface so he can find a bit of dust and bitch out his men, and that doesn't suit AJ.

>The Princess had me undergo a full examination by the best doctors and mages in Canterlot. My thaum count was off the charts//
And so it never occurred to her that magic might affect her friends like this? She's cast spells on all of them at times.

>The unicorn swooned onto her summoned chaise lounge.//
Be very careful here. You're pulling canon theatrics into a decidedly non-canon subject. It's undercutting the moment's seriousness. Even Rarity was self-deprecating about the swooning at times, so it loses its impact as an authentic response.

>“...”//
This may cut it as video game dialogue, but not here. If her pause is meaningful, show me what she's doing. If it's not then skip it.

>she wailed//
That's an abrupt change from lying there quietly and without any discernible expression. You're letting adherence to canon interfere with the prevailing mood again. This would be more powerful if you went for a more authentic emotional reaction. Well, unless your intent is to have the entire thing to turn out happy in the end, then it might work this way. Your call on that, I guess.

>I always wanted to know, wanted to feel//
To be fair, they can't conceive, but they could have an embryonic implantation and still be pregnant... I know to some that's not enough, but... food for thought.

>A barely audible growl came from Applejack’s direction, but Dash didn’t appear to notice.//
Didn't appear to whom? You don't have an identifiable perspective here.

>“Whatever. Not like you do either.”//
I really don't see why Dash is pushing AJ's buttons like this. It's not like Dash is mad about anything. So what's her motivation for being deliberately antagonistic like this? Especially about a subject that she should know means a lot to the Apples.

>We all know Granny Smith does most the work//
Missing word.

>A jet of steam escaped Applejack’s nostrils.//
File that under the cartoon theatrics versus realism again. It doesn't fit the mood.

>Her name is Zuri.//
Oh, please, please tell me this isn't a reference to a certain show on Disney.

>We got traditions, and one of them is that you only become an Apple by birth or marriage.//
Hm. Given a certain recent episode, you might need to rethink this.

>flea ridden//
Hyphenate.

>You expect me to the believe//
Extraneous word in there.

>a bucket of horse manure//
This just sounds odd to me. Isn't this like one of us saying, "This is a toilet of people crap!"

I liked this story. I really did. The only consistent problems I'd note are the wavering perspective and the overdone Apple accents. There were also a few spots where you chose not to attribute dialogue, and it wasn't always obvious who was speaking. Watch that when it's the first time someone speaks, or there are more than two characters speaking.

Y'know, I went into this with quite a few plot-related problems I expected I'd have to write up, but you actually addressed pretty much all of them, so good job on exploring the topic. I do have a few hang-ups still.

If this is the type of thing they normally scan for during a physical, wouldn't it also be pretty public knowledge? I mean, everyone knows radiation is a bad thing, but there's a certain amount everyone gets that doesn't hurt anything. If you get exposed to a large amount, you know that's a bad thing. Though that's not really something they check for in a physical, so say something like cholesterol. I just have a hard time believing that this is catching them by surprise so much. And why is the effect so specific to reproduction? It's not possibly going to cause any other health problems? That would seem to be an evolution toward limiting the gene pool for strong magic users, which... well, I'm not sure what implications that would have. Is this also specific to females? If so, why? If not, why wouldn't someone like Starswirl already know about it? For that matter, during "Magic Duel," Twilight refers to "high level unicorns" who can cast age spells. So there are very powerful unicorns out there. Do they have the same problem? What about Spike? He's been subjected to an awful lot of magic.
>> No. 129521
I'm struck by the number of "to be" verbs in the opening paragraph. You want to grab the reader's interest immediately, and action is a far better way of doing this.

>Very well, princess//
As a term of address, that would be capitalized.

>unsure if she should go on//
And after starting the story in Celestia's perspective, you're dipping into Plumed Quill's here. Check out the section on head hopping at the top of this thread if you want to see some rationale on why perspective shifts need to be considered with care, though I suspect this one is more oversight. This is information that you don't need o be in Quill's perspective to convey; you can instead show me what Celestia sees that would lead her to conclude this.

>Princess Celestia stopped in her tracks.//
How can she stop in her tracks if you never had her going anywhere? Unless you mean that figuratively, though neither did I get the sense that she had any momentum built up in her thoughts.

>turning back to face them//
Ah, so now it appears the bit I flagged in the previous comments did refer to physical movement. Then, you do need to show that she started to leave the room.

>and if it does//
Needs a comma to set off the dependent clause.

>leaving Celestia alone with her thoughts//
Most times, you'll want to set off participles with a comma.

>She removed her crown and set it on the throne behind her; It was feeling exceptionally heavy right at the moment.//
Don't capitalize after a semicolon.

>supposedly-infinite//
-ly adverbs are mostly exempt from hyphenation, especially in two-word phrases.

>and even if they weren’t//
Needs a comma for the dependent clause again.

>That’s why she was surprised when she reached the dining room, and saw Princess Luna had already begun dinner without her.//
Unnecessary comma, since there's no new clause, and watch the use of demonstratives (this, that, these, those) as pronouns, since they often have broad, vague antecedents and are self-referential to the narration.

>who looked tense and uncomfortable//
What about his demeanor makes her conclude this?

>hoping to put him at ease//
Again, it'd be more powerful to show me what she does to accomplish this than bluntly tell me her purpose.

>your majesty//
The honorific would be capitalized.

>her mind finally made the connection.//
Capitalization.

>waiters appeared at her side in an instant, placing a goblet of wine next to her plate//
Multiple waiters placed one goblet? Either it's one waiter, or you need to give the others something to do.

>“Umm...” Glinting Steel bit his lip, eyes darting to his lap as he tried to recall, “didn’t that end a long time ago?”//
You're capitalizing this as if the intervening bit is a speech attribution, but you have no speaking action. This also is another shallow perspective switch that doesn't add anything. Best to stay with Celestia. What does she see him do such that she concludes he's trying to remember. Frankly, biting his lip is enough.

>cease fire//
Hyphenate.

>Although...” Luna glanced over to her sister, “...some of us are more optimistic than others.”//
Maybe this is what you were trying to do with the last quote I commented on. To put a narrative aside in a quote, here's what you do:
>Although—” Luna glanced over to her sister “—some of us are more optimistic than others.”
if the speech actually stops for the action, or:
>Although”—Luna glanced over to her sister—“some of us are more optimistic than others.”
if the speech is continuous.

>she shuddered.//
Capitalization. This isn't a dialogue attribution, so it needs to be a separate sentence.

>She paused, and gulped down more wine.//
No need for the comma. There isn't a new clause.

>Luna had been right, it really was good.//
Comma splice. A dash or semicolon would be appropriate.

>felt her ire beginning to rise//
And how does this feel? Are there any physical symptoms, any thoughts that arise?

>overly-lavish//
Same as before, no hyphen for the -ly adverb.

>“Well, we’ll soon fix that. Cheers!” She floated her own glass over the center of the table//
I'm guessing the speaker and actor here are Luna, but it's not at all clear. Just name her as the speaker.

>she paused, noticing for the first time that her words were coming out a bit slurred.//
Capitalization.

>Feeling a bit tipsy, sister?//
As a term of address that would be capitalized.

>“I’m not as think as you drunk I am.”//
Old joke is old. This is less endearing and more inducing of an eye roll.

>but before he could//
Needs a comma for the dependent clause.

>radiating a pleasant warmth through the room//
Comma for the participial phrase.

>He picked up a rook, paused, then placed it back down and moved his bishop instead.//
He's only made one move so far, a pawn. What possible move could he have made that would make a rook and a bishop both options?

>The worst thing you can do is is//
Extraneous word, or failure to punctuate a stutter.

>but he sensed he was about to anyway//
Again, why the perspective shift? At least you stay there longer than a sentence or two, but Celestia's still awake. I'm not sure it buys you anything.

>I don’t have any good answers, princess//
Capitalization.

>There were worse ways to spend the night.//
Well, given the extreme uncomfortableness he expressed in even being around them, I'm not sure he'd be so circumspect.

Of the most common forms, I counted 103 "to be" verbs in the first chapter. That's getting up there for this word count. It didn't stand out to the point that it felt repetitive, but it does indicate that you could be choosing more active verbs, which is always a good thing.

>She forced herself to look out the window, and saw that it was midmorning.//
No comma needed. There's no new clause or lengthy compound structure.

>with what in Celestia’s opinion was completely unwarranted smugness//
And what about it made Celestia conclude it was smugness? Show me the same evidence.

>Besides, half of Equestria already believes you have a secret harem hidden away in some wing of the palace//
So... Luna's the one more in touch with the populace? I guess it can go as a comedic conceit, but this is the kind of thing that usually warrants some explanation.

>At the realization she was really going ahead with that, a bitter taste leaked into her mouth, and she wrinkled her nose. “That’s truly what you wish to do then? Surrender to their demand just to bring them to the negotiating table?”//
There's nothing suggesting that this paragraph is about Luna, but I suspect it is. You need to make that clear.

>Luna walked over and settled onto the cushions next to her, and nuzzled her cheek.//
Unnecessary comma.

>Celestia trailed off.//
You don't need to reiterate what I can already get from the punctuation. It creates a repetitive feel.

>If you signed it//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>and if you didn’t sign it//
Same deal.

>Luna giggled, and draped a wing over Celestia as the two shared a moment.//
Another unneeded comma. And keep in mind that "as" clauses (and participles, for that matter) imply concurrent action, so they share the moment while Celestia drapes her wing, while it'd more likely be the draping first, followed by the moment.

>kingdom//
Without a king?

>Remember, Tia. Listen to your heart.//
Okay, personal opinion warning: this is 100% my thing and not at all Equestria Daily's policy, and it will not affect your acceptance or rejection. I imagine few readers will have an issue with it. This is a nice sentiment, but one way Luna tried to get her to realize it just didn't fit for me. She thinks that setting Celestia up to have drunken sex with someone she has no reason to care about any more than some other random pony on the street, which is essentially what he is, fits with this philosophy? Sure there are stories where what Luna did would fit, but in prodding her to find some higher moral position above duty, making empty connections is part of it? If her message had been "You need to let loose," maybe, but that's not what she's saying. it feels more like a stretch that was shoehorned in for the sake of titillation.

>double checked//
Hyphenate.

>Even when she’d been willing to meet them halfway, and offer them a mutually beneficial arrangement.//
Unnecessary comma.

>sternly-worded//
No hyphen.

>hold up//
holdup

>bullshit//
This is a really, really odd word choice, given that bulls in Equestria are sentient.

>your ‘emperor’ is the thickest, most insufferable moron who I have ever had the displeasure of meeting//
whom

I know of you by reputation, and your writing is up to a par that I'd expect. It was clean enough that I was able to be pretty thorough in compiling notes. I pointed out just about every problem spot I saw instead of just listing a couple and leaving you to find the rest. I did do that for a few things, so you should still make a sweep, but I've listed most of them for you.

I will reiterate, in what again is only my personal opinion, that I didn't care for the romantic angle here, because it really felt at odds with the overall message. Frankly, so did the drunkenness. Listening to your heart and hedonism may sound on the surface to be the same thing, but one is more a conscience thing, and the other is more a "screw everyone else—I'm going to do what I want to do" thing, and Luna comes off as more manipulative than helpful. Really, that thematic dissonance is hurting this story's impact for me.

That said, I don't have to like a story to recognize that it's well written, and I don't see any reason to keep it off the blog if you touch those other things up. And I do enjoy it when princesses go into no-nonsense mode.

Edit:
Now that I've had more time to stew on it, this business with Glinting Steel just bugs me even more. By Luna's own exaggerated opinion, only half the population would be interested in such an arrangement, and Glinting Steel hasn't expressed anything but uncomfortableness about it. Even internally, he was barely accepting, and more in an "Oh well, I can't do anything about it" sense. Does anyone care to find out how he feels about it? Maybe he's married or in a relationship. And yet the Princesses don't give that a second's thought. They attempt to coerce him into being Celestia's stress-relief boy-toy without any thought to what he might want. And I'm supposed to find this heartwarming? I could see this working in a comedy, where being out of character is more readily acceptable for the sake of humor, but this is really out of sorts with the overall message you'e trying to convey. It's actually kind of creepy.

Like I said, this didn't affect my verdict on your story, but it does mean I'll have a different pre-reader take your story on resubmit to see if they share my concern.

Last edited at Mon, Jan 20th, 2014 11:05

>> No. 129536
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>It's been a year since Twist earned her cutie mark and a year since she's talked to Applebloom. //
That verb tense is off. Given that you're using a present tense to start, just use simple past later (she talked). And it's "Apple Bloom."

>more fun then Applebloom ever was//
Than/then confusion.

Story:
>Diamond Tiara scanned it and then flashed a hooves-up at Twist.//
This is the third straight sentence (of three total so far) that uses an "and then" construction. It's getting repetitive.

>She had long since established that Applebloom had only valued her for her similar predicament.//
You're kind of glossing over a lot of what would add emotional weight to your story. How does she feel about these past events? If you don't set up that it means much to her now, it kind of defeats the entire premise of your story. And what was her thought process that established it? You throw it out there like I should already know what it is.

>And that's why how the brilliant military strategist//
Extraneous word in there.

>RECESS!//
Italics are preferred for shouting, and the word choice of "chanted" implies they're saying it repeatedly. It might be more effective just to have them do so.

>suavely//
Check out the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread. Bottom line here is that it'd be a much more interesting read if you described her body language for me so I could visualize this and draw my own conclusion about her mood. When you sum it up for me, it's not as engaging.

>three month//
Hyphenate your compound modifiers.

>thounds//
I'm of two minds on this. First, you're inconsistent about getting every s. However, you have to be careful writing accents and speech impediments. You don't want to make the dialogue difficult to read. Many, many authors overdo the Apples' accent, and it's really not necessary, since the readers know the characters already and will mostly fill it in for you. The same is true of Twist, but she turns up in the show and fanfiction so seldom that you're probably okay here.

>abashed//
Watch the telling again. Show me this.

>"DID SOMEONE SAY CUPCAKES?" a shrill voice screamed from upstairs as Silver Spoon handed over the bits for the cupcakes. She rolled her eyes and mouthed Pinkie Pie.//
Just one speaker per paragraph, please.

>the only remnants sticky mouths and hooves on the Cutie Mark Crusaders//
That's pretty awkwardly phrased and doesn't exactly say what it means.

>Ah remember when ah was friends with Twist.//
If you're going to substitute "Ah" for "I," it needs to be capitalized the same.

>Twist nodded, and crossed her hooves, the shorthand for a Pinkie promise that they had developed.//
Why would this group have adopted Pinkie's routine? Especially after they tried to avoid her—they clearly don't think much of her.

>Twist remembered the day Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon had invited her to a private picnic at the edge of the Everfree Forest and shown her that there was more to the ponies than what they seemed.//
So, you're going to take the entire exposition that provides the bridge from canon to your story and sum it up in one sentence of narration?

>She said school is in about an hour//
A sleepover on a school night?

>almost-but-not-quite not//
That's a whole lot more convoluted than it needs to be. I'm not sure what that second "not" is doing there.

>ta'//
Apostrophes signify skipped letters. What letter are you skipping here? It's just an imitative spelling (and one that goes overboard for a written accent, for that matter).

>Besides, I technically have a foalsitter. We have an agreement that she is not actually responsible for me.//
Another little item that comes out of left field. These really have the feel of patches put on the story to cover up plot holes, but they're pretty fragile. I don't think you even needed to bring up this subject. The CMCs go around unsupervised all the time.

>Cheerilee stormed back into the school house, her tail switching in sync with her heavy hooffalls.//
So... she's upset that they're fighting... and then immediately leaves them unsupervised?

>Silver Spoon adjusted her glasses and smirked.//
This indentation is inconsistent.

>one-hundred percent real//
That's all one compound modifier.

>So far it was a normal spoon with a round lump of silver at the end that enabled it to be attached to a hoof.//
Canon earth ponies don't seem to have any trouble with the spoons they already have...

>I have received word from your teacher, Miss Cheerilee,
Why does he need to clarify who her teacher is? Seems like the kind of thing she could assume Silver Spoon knew...

>I didn't to have to do this//
Extraneous word.

>Fluttershy' eyes//
Missing letter.

>Rarity quickly stitched a row of sequins onto a slinky dress, and tossed it in a pile.//
I've noticed a few of these, too. Look at the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>@&$#%//
First, just write out whatever she said. I can take it. Second, is she really the type to do this? She's the first one to bow to authority. Take her behavior with Babs Seed. She was the one telling them all along to go to Applejack.

>What.....//
Three dots in an ellipsis.

>sugercube//
sugarcube

>she still had the natural hollow bones of a Pegasus//
I don't see how this point is relevant. It's empty filler.

>Besides, the only reason he got into the Wonderbolts Academy was because they needed somewhere to send him after he got kicked out of that reform flight school for wing-size-boosting steroids that backfired.//
Watch the infodump. This really smacks of something Dash would already know if she's actually this close to Scootaloo.

>She's refused to let me see it before she finished.//
Verb tense. If Twilight's already finished, then... she's finished. Right?

>Twist groaned and started to clean up.//
This is a really strange place to end a chapter. It's a completely bland moment. You either want to leave the reader on a cliffhanger or wrap up a plot point. This just... goes nowhere. What possible importance does this final scene have?

There are really two main things keeping me from getting into this story enough to comment on the finer points of character and plot.

First, what emotional content I'm getting is mostly telly or very heavy-handed and overexplained through direct thought. Thought is certainly one avenue to convey mood, but it takes a good mix of things to give an engaging picture of your characters. You need more emotional context, and you need to use a variety of methods of showing to achieve that.

Second, there are a lot of things here that are a significant step away from canon, but that I'm supposed to accept with one sentence of explanation. In canon, Apple Bloom and Twist are friends. Sure, it disheartened Apple Bloom when Twist got her cutie mark, but they didn't get hostile toward each other. And Twist certainly seems like the kind of social outcast that Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon would continue to prey on. You're not limited to canon, of course, but you're better served using it as your starting point. So when you start right off with Twist as the CMCs' enemy and fast friends with the terrible twosome, it's going to take more than just your word to get me there. You have to connect the dots so that it feels like a natural progression of events instead of just an alternate-universe-type plunge into unexplained differences. There were other such conceits in the story as well, but that was the biggest.

And after five chapters, I still don't have a sense of where the story is going. There's none of this "abandonment" that the title promises. We just have the occasional skirmish between these two factions, but without any direction for why this is happening or any goal that either is working toward. Except for the CMCs' continued pursuit of their cutie marks, but that's pretty standard fare, and it's not evident that that has anything to do with Twist's storyline. You do have conflict in the story, I'll give you that, but it's not working toward anything.
>> No. 129541
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>It can calm a storm, it can help a pony find peace; it can bring a splash of color to a grey world.//
If you'd gone with a comma instead of the semicolon, it would have had the feeling of an incomplete list, which isn't grammatically correct, but is a valid and common enough stylistic device. But by using the semicolon, it really feels like you're going for grammatical correctness, in which case the part before it has a comma splice. If you're trying to create a dramatic pause with the semicolon, I'd recommend an ellipsis instead.

Story:
>Passions rode about her as she trotted slowly down the street. A cold Manehattan alley, as desolate and grey as the filly who walked it. Her mane hung heavily from her head, streaming in the rain.//
A lot to say already. There' just a lot of conflicting information here. "Passions rode about her." That's just a cold fact, and I don't know what it means. If you'd said she was sad or depressed for example, at least I'd know what kind of passions, but even then, it's a lot more effective to give me the evidence that will lead me to deduce her mood (see the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread for a more thorough discussion). A trot as a decently brisk pace. "Trotted slowly" borders on contradictory. Then you tell me she's in a street, then go on to describe it as an alley instead. And if a "mane hung heavily," how would it stream? One connotes a big mass of matted hair hanging straight down, while the other is lighter and windblown. Your second sentence is a fragment, which can work in a stylistic sense, but it doesn't here. Such things are effective as follow-up comments, but you hadn't alluded to any significance of the location.

>Small for her age.//
As a contrast, here's a fragment that works, since it's following from the previous sentence.

>She prodded on//
I have to think you meant "plodded."

>Her course changed, automatically//
There's no reason to have a comma here. Well, actually, it needs to go after that word. See the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>Chewing, she trotted toward one of the sicker colts and pulled out a bottle and a spoon.//
Be careful that you don't get repetitive with your sentence structures. This is the third in a row and the fifth in the paragraph to use a participle.

>poured a measured amount of thick amber liquid onto the spoon//
"Into" would be more accurate.

>purple eyes growing wide with wonder and awe//
Yeah, watch the telling.

>The lid was lifted to reveal the brass notes inside//
The passive voice isn't helping here. It's better to keep things active unless there's a good reason for using the passive voice to shift focus, and you haven't assigned any importance to this lid. I'm quite experienced in music, but admittedly, piano isn't my specialty. Still, I've never heard of any of the pieces inside referred to as "notes," though I'll defer to you if you know that to be a technical term for the hardware.

>Its keys were pristine//
>the whole piano was aged
More contradictory language. Make up your mind.

>She had no words but words were not was she needed.//
Typo. Plus another missing comma.

>She slipped onto the bench and set her hooves on the old, strong instrument before her.//
Where? I mean, if you're bothering to say what she's doing with her hooves, you could at least say she's putting them on the pedals.

>She trembled at it's magnitude//
Its/it's confusion.

>violaceous//
Is there a reason this word is more suitable than "violet"? If you have a good one, then by all means use it. If it has a slight difference of meaning or provides a better rhythm to the sentence, fine. But I can't see anything other than the desire to use a fancier word.

So, where did these kids get a piano? It's implied that Octavia goes there regularly, so she would have noticed it before. It doesn't surprise her? She doesn't want to know how they acquired it and got it there?

>mauve//
That's a rather different color than violet.

>"Is he gonna be okay?" She squeaked.//
Dialogue capitalization. I have a section on that up top, too.

>Deeply moved by this site//
You've confused "site" with "sight."

>smiled in quiet content//
Besides being telly, you want "contentment."

>Though Octavia did not catch his eye, he could feel her acknowledgement.//
Your perspective wanders around a lot. We're mostly with Octavia, but then you occasionally go into the collective of the children, and then here, you've shifted into a particular colt. Besides Octavia, you never stay with any of these perspectives for long. You're in Time's head for only a few sentences, which begs the question of if it's necessary at all. Check out the section on head hopping at the top of this thread.

>Her complicated expression//
How do I know it's complicated if you won't let me see it?

>The room was large enough to cook and banquet and thrice that size.//
Maybe it's just a syntax issue, but I can't figure out what the "thrice that size" means.

>She happily left them, swerving onto a street and galloping for the inner city.//
Another issue with all the participles you use is that they're prime candidates for misplaced modifiers. By proximity, it sounds like "them" is what's "swerving onto a street."

>She had her mother to watch out for.//
Given what follows, and what that implies about what you meant here, I think you need a "her" at the end.

>Not every filly or colt made it safely to freedom, take that as one may.//
Perhaps not, but at a lower success rate than fending for themselves?

>They would never know what had become of him.//
Why not? If he gets adopted or placed somewhere, what's to prevent him from visiting? I certainly haven't seen any indoctrination of these children that teaches them to break off all contact if they leave.

>an air of grace//
>gracefully/
Just a few sentences apart. Watch the repetition.

>orchid colored//
Hyphenate your compound modifiers.

>He gave some small quip//
And we don't get to know what it was? Otherwise, this just comes across as empty filler.

>thunderous booms//
Not sure how you'd get a cello to make a sound like this.

>She pursed his lips//
You meant "her," right?

There's a lot of telly language in here, which is an especially bad thing for a story driven entirely by emotion. It's also just chock full of odd phrasings. I'm having a little trouble telling whether this stems from thesaurus abuse or someone who's not familiar with the language.

Also, there's not really a story here. There's a nice sentiment, but a story needs conflict or character growth. On the conflict side, what's at stake for Octavia? Worry that someone will discover she's helping these foals? Fear that the time she's spending with them is taking away from her other interests? I don't see anything. We need to see clearly that something is at stake, that someone wants something and takes a risk for it and what bad thing will happen if she doesn't get it. Or on the character side, what new insight do we get to see about her? What surprising thing do we learn about her, or even better, that she learns about herself? There's really nothing along those lines, either. Yes, it's different that she's halping these children, but that happens throughout the story. It's not something that's built up and revealed as a surprise. It's just a series of scenes of poor Octavia worried about these children, but not doing anything outlandish or risky to help them. It also sets her up as a bit of a Sympathy Sue character, where everything goes just perfectly wrong for her.
>> No. 129549
>>129536

Thanks! I'll fix everything you pointed out, get an actual editor for the next few chapters, and hopefully get something that doesn't make your eyes bleed!
>> No. 129555
>>129518

>She returned with a tumbler and a bottle of scotch held aloft in her magic//
Okay, you kind of veered off the track there. She's never dealt with any interpersonal crises remotely like this, even ons involving her friends, even ones that were her fault. Look at how she behaved in "Magical Mystery Cure" after being th one who caused all the trouble. And despite canon instances of cider (maybe not) and salt licks (definitely) being intoxicating substances, she's never seen to care much for either one.

>I don’t she’s dealt with anything of this magnitude. It’s hard to equate the seriousness of not being able to have children with the cutie mark switch. I’ve included drinking, as have other authors.I believe it’s appropriate given her state of mind.

>The Princess had me undergo a full examination by the best doctors and mages in Canterlot. My thaum count was off the charts//
And so it never occurred to her that magic might affect her friends like this? She's cast spells on all of them at times.

>Twilight doesn’t consider the Elements to be capable of a negative result. Also exposure to magic and channeling are two different things in this story. I’ve changed some wording to make it clearer.


>We got traditions, and one of them is that you only become an Apple by birth or marriage.//
Hm. Given a certain recent episode, you might need to rethink this.

>I’ve added a nod to that episode now. I think Pinkie is related and I’m going Applejack believing that as well. I think I can get away with it.

>a bucket of horse manure//
This just sounds odd to me. Isn't this like one of us saying, "This is a toilet of people crap!"

>>It may sound odd, but myself and both my editors really like it the way it is.

I liked this story. I really did.
>> Glad you liked it.


If this is the type of thing they normally scan for during a physical, wouldn't it also be pretty public knowledge? I mean, everyone knows radiation is a bad thing, but there's a certain amount everyone gets that doesn't hurt anything. If you get exposed to a large amount, you know that's a bad thing. Though that's not really something they check for in a physical, so say something like cholesterol. I just have a hard time believing that this is catching them by surprise so much. And why is the effect so specific to reproduction? It's not possibly going to cause any other health problems? That would seem to be an evolution toward limiting the gene pool for strong magic users, which... well, I'm not sure what implications that would have. Is this also specific to females? If so, why? If not, why wouldn't someone like Starswirl already know about it? For that matter, during "Magic Duel," Twilight refers to "high level unicorns" who can cast age spells. So there are very powerful unicorns out there. Do they have the same problem? What about Spike? He's been subjected to an awful lot of magic.

>> As for why they don’t experience other problems. I’ve added some lines about how channeling too much magic is different from just exposure, over-channeling being bad. Also, the theme is more about a cosmic sacrifice for saving the world. That idea and other problems they could potentially have are subjects for later chapters. I didn’t feel it would throwing all those ideas into the first chapter.
>> No. 129556
>>129518
>>129518

>She returned with a tumbler and a bottle of scotch held aloft in her magic//
Okay, you kind of veered off the track there. She's never dealt with any interpersonal crises remotely like this, even ons involving her friends, even ones that were her fault. Look at how she behaved in "Magical Mystery Cure" after being th one who caused all the trouble. And despite canon instances of cider (maybe not) and salt licks (definitely) being intoxicating substances, she's never seen to care much for either one.

>I don’t she’s dealt with anything of this magnitude. It’s hard to equate the seriousness of not being able to have children with the cutie mark switch. I’ve included drinking, as have other authors.I believe it’s appropriate given her state of mind.

>The Princess had me undergo a full examination by the best doctors and mages in Canterlot. My thaum count was off the charts//
And so it never occurred to her that magic might affect her friends like this? She's cast spells on all of them at times.

>Twilight doesn’t consider the Elements to be capable of a negative result. Also exposure to magic and channeling are two different things in this story. I’ve changed some wording to make it clearer.


>We got traditions, and one of them is that you only become an Apple by birth or marriage.//
Hm. Given a certain recent episode, you might need to rethink this.

>I’ve added a nod to that episode now. I think Pinkie is related and I’m going Applejack believing that as well. I think I can get away with it.

>a bucket of horse manure//
This just sounds odd to me. Isn't this like one of us saying, "This is a toilet of people crap!"

>>It may sound odd, but myself and both my editors really like it the way it is.

I liked this story. I really did.
>> Glad you liked it.


If this is the type of thing they normally scan for during a physical, wouldn't it also be pretty public knowledge? I mean, everyone knows radiation is a bad thing, but there's a certain amount everyone gets that doesn't hurt anything. If you get exposed to a large amount, you know that's a bad thing. Though that's not really something they check for in a physical, so say something like cholesterol. I just have a hard time believing that this is catching them by surprise so much. And why is the effect so specific to reproduction? It's not possibly going to cause any other health problems? That would seem to be an evolution toward limiting the gene pool for strong magic users, which... well, I'm not sure what implications that would have. Is this also specific to females? If so, why? If not, why wouldn't someone like Starswirl already know about it? For that matter, during "Magic Duel," Twilight refers to "high level unicorns" who can cast age spells. So there are very powerful unicorns out there. Do they have the same problem? What about Spike? He's been subjected to an awful lot of magic.

>> As for why they don’t experience other problems. I’ve added some lines about how channeling too much magic is different from just exposure, over-channeling being bad. Also, the theme is more about a cosmic sacrifice for saving the world. That idea and other problems they could potentially have are subjects for later chapters. I didn’t feel it would throwing all those ideas into the first chapter.
>> No. 129558
>>129555
>I don’t she’s dealt with anything of this magnitude. It’s hard to equate the seriousness of not being able to have children with the cutie mark switch. I’ve included drinking, as have other authors.I believe it’s appropriate given her state of mind.
But she has, when she discovered her own sterility. When people resort to drink over a shock, it's a shock of their own. She's surprised to find out her friends have been affected, but it'd be odd for her to bolt down some booze on their behalf. And she's shown no signs of feeling like she's the one responsible—she doesn't get apologetic about it—so she's not really bolstering herself against anything. If there were some outward signs that she was getting to be an emotional wreck over this, then I could see it.
>> No. 129580
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
You've split this into three paragraphs, but you don't leave a line break between them, so the formatting looks off.

Story:
You have a bit of a weather report opening, but at least it's got something to do with the immediate happenings, which is better than the vast majority of authors who use one.

>hoping to catch a flake or two before their mouth dried out//
Unless they all share a single mouth, you need a plural.

>tucked away in an ally//
Given that you probably know we do not accept clop, I'll assume you meant to say "alley."

>this?//
The standard is to italicize ! or ? when it's on an italicized word.

>Mr. and Mrs. Cake place a gingerbread mansion//
Why the switch to present tense?

>confused but still happy//
You've skirted the line a couple of times, but this is blatantly telly. Doing so is excusable for Twilight about herself, since she's a first-person narrator, but you shouldn't be about everyone else. Have a look at the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>the parent rehearsals//
I'm guessing you meant "pageant."

>Pinkie attested//
Two things: have a look at the section on saidisms as well, and this is just an odd word choice anyway. The connotation is that she's bearing witness or offering proof, but she wasn't there.

>Applebloom, Applejack's younger sister.//
Apple Bloom. And you can assume your readers will know who she is.

>leading me to believe it was full of bits//
This is rather direct. You could leave this off altogether, and I think it'd be clear, but you could say "jingled with bits" if you think it needs more. As is, it holds the reader's hand a little too much.

>OHMIGOSH!//
Italics are preferred for emphasis.

>Appleblooms'//
Misused apostrophe.

>who only grinned in response//
Set off the dependent clause with a comma.

>It's needles were a bright, minty green and were bunched in tight groups that looked almost like flower buds. The trunk was about as thick as a lamp post, and it was covered by bark in a deep brown color that reminded me of hot chocolate.//
It's/its confusion. Also look at the number of "to be" verbs you use in this description. They're inherently boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what is. You ought to be using active verbs. It's worth scanning the entire story for these.

> Finally the fluorescent color caught my eye and I snatched the tag with my magic before it could disappear again.//
And again, separate the clauses with a comma. Have a look at the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>Fif- fifty//
Don't leave a space in a stutter.

>Applebloom seemed to be panicking.//
I'm not going to point out every area where telling seems out of place to me, but this is one. What is Apple Bloom doing that leads Twilight to draw this conclusion?

>what it would like like//
I think you'll see the problem.

>She too them graciously, running off to find her brother.//
Typo. One other thing—participles imply concurrent action, but she wouldn't run off until after she'd taken the money.

>She seemed to notice me for the first time.//
"Seem" is almost as boring a verb as "to be," though it's more tolerable in that it doesn't get used nearly as much. But this is already the second use in this scene.

>I remembered, thinking back to last year when she had insisted she cover this trimming for the Canterlot city tree.//
That's just awkwardly phrased all over.

>Hearth's warming//
Capitalization.

>"I suppose."//
And I'm finally going to say I don't get Twilight's mood. She's been Ms. Grump the whole time. She's normally very friendly and accommodating of Pinkie's ramblings. Why is she being so standoffish? It's really creating a dissonance with me that she's not acting like Twilight. If you end up explaining it later, it might work out, but it doesn't seem to be heading that way.

>24//
Spell out numbers this short.

>perfectly vertical, and it looked beautiful in the library. "There! It's perfect!"//
Watch the word repetition. You used this one again just a couple of paragraphs back.

>"I thought we should wait until tomorrow." I told her//
Dialogue punctuation.

>cook-- eat ginger-- well, we can eat!//
Either put spaces on both sides of your dashes or go without spaces altogether.

>to join Pinkie and I//
People often use this phrasing wrong while trying to avoid the more common ways of using it wrong. It's "Pinkie and me." It's part of a compound firect object of the verb "join." Try removing Pinkie from it, and then see what works. "To join I." That's obviously wrong.

>Pinkie trotted out from behind the tree, holding a top hat filled with papers.//
Given the sheer number of participial phrases you use, I'd also caution you that they're often misplaced modifiers. By theor proximity in the sentence, the "holding..." phrase describes the tree. While I can apply a bit of logic to sort it out, you will eventually write something that's ambiguous or outright misleading, if you're not careful.

>I smiled, tucking the paper away.//
And to add to my "given the sheer number of participial phrases you use" from the last comment... Over the past 8 sentences, you use the "<main clause>, <participial phrase>" structure 5 times. And there are more over the next few paragraphs, I see. You're getting into a rut of sentence structure that you didn't have early in the story. Back then, you had more simple and compound sentences, which are so common that they pass unnoticed, as long as you break them up once in a while with something different. But these more elaborate structures stand out more when they get repeated.

>as she thought about what to get for her pony//
Watch your perspective. How would Twilight know this was what Pinkie was thinking?

>"Well, Pinkie probably has some sugary concoction that'll wake you up," I gave her a gentle nudge with my elbow.//
Punctuation. Your attribution has no speaking action, so it needs to be a separate sentence.

>Her accent grew thicker when she was tired out.//
This is your fifth use of "tired" in the last ten paragraphs.

>Applejack seemed to be perking up when there was a knock at the door.//
Watch what this implies. Without a comma, as you have it, it implies the knock was what perked her up. With a comma, it would merely give a chronology, which is what you want.

>Uh-I'm comin'//
Use a dash here, not a hyphen.

>Looks like a gotta be headin' off.//
Seems like you were trying for the common "Ah" imitative spelling. Note that it needs to be capitalized, since it's a stand-in for "I." However let me dissuade you from writing her accent to that degree. Imitative spellings are rarely necessary, and too many just slow the reader down. Readers already know how she sounds and will fill that in for you. It's more about phrasing and word choice.

>bravely//
What about it leads Twilight to conclude it's brave? It adds more power if you make me conclude that instead of feeding it to me.

>Yeah, what gives AJ?//
Missing a comma for direct address.

>Applejack looked instantly relieved. "Thanks." She stepped outside, looking very at home between her siblings.//
Show me!

>We had a long discussion, leading us nowhere but in endless circles, but still bringing up plenty of unpleasant possibilities. We finally disbanded a few hours later, feeling sick with worry about the Apple Family. I knew for sure that five sleepless nights were to come.//
Yow. You're sure glossing over a ton of the emotional context of the story here. You don't have to take me through the evening minute by minute, but seeing everyone's concern is a whole lot different than having it summed up for me.

>I laid awake for a long time//
Lay/lie confusion.

>So they just don't celebrate.//
As long as most of these ponies have known her, none of them ever knew this? I hope you end up explaining...

>T-this//
Think about what sound would actually be repeated. "Th-this," surely.

>Did this every year," Pinkie explained, "And I always fall asleep...//
Don't capitalize the second part of the quote when you continue it like this, as long as the two parts of the quote join into a single, valid sentence.

>Twi//
Apple Bloom's never called her that in canon, and I think she'd show more respect to an adult than that.

>ornament of needle or branch out of place//
Typo.

>My backyard//
Isn't her backyard a street?

>gingerbreadmare//
Gingerbread man isn't a single word, so why would this be?

>feeding her rabbit, Angel//
Again, this is something you can assume the reader will know. Just say she's feeding Angel.

>rather pompously//
Why would she make such a judgment about herself? If it's for an effect, she'd say what that effect was. It's not the time for self-deprecation.

>"Fluttershy and I agreed that you aren't having enough fun," I told them both, "So we're going to have a snowball fight."//
Quote capitalization again.

>a stack of freezing snowballs//
Kind of a redundant description, unless you literally mean they're still in the process of freezing.

>Despite the seriousness with which I'm telling this//
This is a mistake. First, it kicks me out of the moment, since it suggests that the whole thing is actually an after-the-fact retelling of a past event. Second, it addresses me directly. You haven't done so as yet, so it's out of place, and it also opens the can of worms of needing to define my role. Why is she telling me this story? Why do I want to listen? Best to avoid that.

>We aren't sure who won//
Another inexplicable shift to present tense.

>9//
Write it out.

>once empty//
Hyphenate the compound descriptor.

>I rolled my eyes, laying them on top of the sled.//
Vague antecedent. It sounds like she's laying her eyes on the sled.

>I didn't even have to come from me//
You meant "it," right?

>I hooked the clasp on the antlers under my chin, snatching the sled and the scroll as I flew out the door.//
Participles and "as" clauses both imply concurrent actions, so all of these happen at the same time. That doesn't quite work.

>Over hills and down a small dirt path laid Sweet Apple Acres//
Lay/lie confusion again.

>to be sure she was awake//
Missing period.

>I stopped minute//
Missing word.

> I was starting to hear the wheezing breaths of Applebloom as she rushing through the snow to catch up//
Odd choice of verb tense for the first part, and it's outright wrong for the second.

Well, here's where I usually rehash the major problems and bring up overall ones. So, watch the commas, space your dashes right, watch the repetitive sentence structures and ponderous use of participles, and show, don't tell. And you only use "said" 7 times as a dialogue tag out of approximately 250 quotes. I've explained the rationale for why that's problematic in the portion of the thread I referred you to, but I wanted to add the numbers here, so you could see how extreme it was.

The only other thing I want to bring up is—well, aside from Twilight's odd mood through the first couple of scenes, which I mentioned earlier—that the conflict is pretty weak here. There's certainly a conflict from Applejack's point of view, but we don't see that. We get Twilight's point of view, and she certainly does debate how to deal with the situation, but then the solution just drops in her lap. It's a classic deus ex machina. She wasn't particularly beating her head over what to do about it either, so it wasn't like a huge conundrum that was eating her up. It's a bit understated to have much impact. Now, getting back to Applejack. You emphasize how much pride she has, and I tend to agree with you there. But she's immediately willing to swallow that pride? I doubt it. But I have no indication otherwise. You gloss over Applejack's reaction in the short final scene and basically summarize it such that she admitted everything openly and freely. How she talked to them is at least as important as what she said, and you're missing out on a lot of this story's punch by declining to show me this. There's your conflict. It can be shown externally through Twilight's perception—that is, you don't need to transfer into Applejack's point of view to get at it. That's certainly not the only way to bring some real conflict into the story, but I think it's the one that most clearly presents itself.

Last edited at Sun, Jan 26th, 2014 00:20

>> No. 129588
>>129558
You make a valid point. I am adding some precursor cues. Also, something to make that part less abrupt.

Her own damage, she can cope with. Her friends however, and while doing something she was responsible for, several times... guilt!

That will be very important for her arc in this story as it's her core motivator.
>> No. 129590
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>less fortunate class mates//
Less-fortunate classmates. I'll also say that someone who would be self-aware about her behavior enough to admit she loved rubbing their faces in it probably wouldn't think of them as circumspectly as "less-fortunate."

Story:
>her Dad//
The difference between whether you do or don't capitalize "dad" depends on whether you're referring to him specifically or as one of a group. So if you'd just said "Dad," it would be capitalized, but in "her dad," it wouldn't.

>All she had to do was pick up her dress and she’d be good to go until then.//
Needs a comma to separate the clauses. See the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>wanting to touch on another subject//
This is already the third time you've told me what she did or didn't want. We can already tell what she wants, at least in this case, by what she says. More often that not, you won't want to state her wants directly like this.

>“It’s guaranteed to be amazing.”//
Despite what she says, I'm not seeing any evidence that she's anything but stoic about it. Let me see a reaction or an image that pops into her head.

> the Carousel Boutique//
You don' use "the" with a specific place name, unless it's actually part of the name. For instance, you go to the store, but you go to Wal-Mart.

>where Diamond Tiara was supposed to pick up her dress//
This is already evident. You can assume your readers will know who and what Rarity and Carousel Boutique are.

>They approached their destination eventually, going through the front door into the prim and tidy lobby that was the Carousel Boutique.//
Note that participles imply concurrent action, so she goes through the door at the same time she approaches the building? Same deal with "the" Carousel Boutique, and you're saying that the entire store is the lobby.

>Rarity was there//
Get straight to her action. This is incredibly boring.

>looked down at Diamond Tiara, the pink filly returning an eager look//
Repetitive use of "look," and the "eager look" is pretty telly anyway. Give me a couple of details so that I conclude that about her. It makes the writing much more engaging. You might want to read the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>“That’s good to hear.” Rarity levitated a nearby present//
You don't attribute this speech, and with Rarity's action immediately following it, she will be presumed as the speaker.

>and carefully set on Diamond’s back//
Missing word.

>and she was surprised that the young filly could lift it on her own//
Also see the section on head hopping. This isn't adding anything to the story, so there's no need to switch from Diamond's perspective to Rarity's particularly since you could have shown Rarity's surprise as Diamond perceives it. If you jerk around the perspective like this, it's jarring to the reader and prevents him from getting settled into your characters.

>Applebloom//
You spelled it right before. Why not now?

>but not before being told where Sweetie Belle might have been//
You were just there. Why didn't you include this as part of the conversation?

>Besides, it was a chance to embarrass another blank flank. Why in Equestria would they pass up that perfect chance?//
Now, this is a pretty realistic reaction. Why didn't she have it immediately when Rarity suggested it?

>They passed a large tree, where they saw the resident weather pony, Rainbow Dash reading off a list for some reason or another.//
What relevance does this have to anything? It's completely empty filler, and the story would be no worse for removing it.

>You’re new outfit//
Your/you're confusion.

>“Can you imagine how embarrassing it must be to be… not special.”//
Isn't this a question?

>They must have been working on something very important to be out here.//
That's quite a leap of logic, and one that's awfully convenient to the plot. Anyone in the park must be there for a very important reason?

>And hopefully all of that hard work would pay off.//
And in this paragraph, you've gone into Sweetie Belle's perspective. It's ping-ponging all over the place.

>caused her to lose focus, causing//
More word repetition.

>She had gotten better this time around, admittedly; whereas a few months ago after even attempting this, she would feel light-headed and almost lose consciousness.//
It's bad practice to use a conjunction after a semicolon. They have pretty redundant purposes.

>She was trying to seem wasn’t fazed, even striking a pose//
A couple of missing words there. And what kind of pose? This is completely vague.

>Even though it was unexpected, they still snickered from the sight of it.//
Besides the awkward phrasing, this doesn't even have an understandable meaning. They don't snicker at unexpected things?

>The pink filly stopped laughing to see the predicament that she was in. She tried to shake her legs free, but her movements were becoming more and more restricted by the magic placed upon her, practically holding her in place.//
This is awfully clinical and formal language for what would certainly be an emotional experience. Since you've been using a more subjective narrator, why have him back off here, where the facts are only half the story?

>The smoke eventually disappeared//
How did it stay there through the "huge gust of wind"?

>just mere//
These are redundant.

>She was still a bit disoriented from what happened, but she was able to determine who and what was in front of her.//
Each of the past four paragraphs has been in a different perspective.

>“If it gets her,” - Diamond pointed at the pony now standing beside her, “-off my back//
You're almost right, but your dash placement is inconsistent, and please don't use hyphens. Here's how it works:
>“If it gets her—” Diamond pointed at the pony now standing beside her “—off my back,
if the speech stops for the action, and:
>“If it gets her”—Diamond pointed at the pony now standing beside her—“off my back,
if it doesn't.

>since they left the park//
This is a completed action in a past-tense narration, so use past perfect. "They had" or "they'd."

>little interruptions//
Singular. As a plural, it would mean there were numerous smal interruptions.

>With that//
Phrases like this, which refer to the writing itself, aren't a good idea, except maybe for a first-person narrator.

>Silver Spoon looked back at pony.//
Missing word.

>a deadpanned look//
Deadpan.

>Twilight approached the filly kneeled down, meeting her at eye-level.//
Some off syntax there.

>Twilight stood and levitated a scroll from her saddle bag//
Wow. Awfully convenient that Twilight had that particular information with her, and that she knew exactly what this was, and that she could tell so quickly, and that she'd had enough of an interest in it lately to have read up on it.

>he looked over at the double//
You'd been capitalizing "Double." Be consistent.

>Twilight tiled her head./
Typo.

>She departed from the fillies//
And after seeing this magical oddity that's apparently interested her recently, she just walks off. And ad the first adult to figure out what's happened, she's not going to see to it that someone's going to take care of her.

>by then it was too late. //
Capitalization.

>They had already gotten too far out of ear-shot,//
Earshot, and your punctuating this like it's a dialogue attribution, but you have no speaking verb.

>asked where Sugarcube was//
Missing a word.

>cute- ceañera//
Extraneous space. For that matter, I don't think the canon spelling uses a hyphen.

>F-Forget it//
Unless it's a proper noun, only capitalize the first part of a stutter.

>nor has she ever actually heard//
Why the switch to present tense?

>Scootaloo//
Given that your narrator's been in Blue's perspective for most of this scene, he shouldn't know who this is any more than Blue does.

>but not before grabbing a chocolate chip from off one of the tables//
A single chocolate chip? I have to think you meant a cookie or muffin or some such.

>on occasions//
That phrase is normally rendered in the singular.

>I really don’t think mom and dad//
See, in this case, you do need to capitalize "Mom" and "Dad."

>contingency//
Insofar as the narrator is Diamond here, this doesn't strike me as a word she would use, much less know.

>It was a lesson that, regrettable, she had fallen asleep in.//
Regrettably.

>huge!//
Normally, you'll italicize a ! or ? that's on an italicized word. You do so a bit later.

>It’s obvious her special talent isn’t drawing.//
You're in present tense again. Maybe you meant this to be a thought?

>“What’s ‘Mass Effect’?”//
Pretty much the only thing a pop culture reference will do is date your story.

>Just five more five minutes//
Extraneous word.

>There was no response, instead they heard ruckus coming from the other side.//
Comma splice.

The biggest problems are really in the forefront here. A lot of the emotional content was presented in a telly manner, and the narrator's perspective wavered all over the place. You really have to keep mind of who holds the point of view at any given moment and make sure you stick to that.

Aside from that, I'm three chapters in, and I still have no idea what the story's about. Conflict is what drives a story, be it something external that needs to be resolved between characters or internal that results in character growth. In any case, there has to be something that one or more of the characters want. We've met Blue, but she's just along for the ride. She's not working toward anything, and even Twilight's not concerned about how she came to be or what they're going to do with her. I appreciate that you've made Diamond a sympathetic character in that she was largely ignored at her own cuteceanera, but there's also no goal she's trying to achieve. Sweetie Belle actually is trying to attain something, but once her efforts result in Blue, she's left out. I'm sure you intend either Royal Blue or Diamond Tiara to be your protagonist, so have some long-term conflict arise for one or both of them. This far into the story, I really should know what's at stake and who has an interest in it. In fact, that needs to be established as soon as possible. There are some nice character interactions, but the plot doesn't feel like it has a direction so far.

That's actually something I'd recommend an author do on any story: Map out your main characters, define what they want, what they're willing to do to get it, and what bad thing will happen if they don't.
>> No. 129603
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
This format just looks off. You've only got three short sentences, and each is in its own paragraph, but you're inconsistent with the line breaks. It comes across as very choppy.

Story:
>Luna's full moon//
This and "Celestia's sun" are incredibly cliched phrases to use. It just makes you look very unoriginal.

>brilliant glow//
>soft whiteness//
Well, which is it?

>coffee fuelled//
Hyphenate your compound modifiers.

>The stars were her companions, she knew nearly every last one by name.//
Comma splice.

>It was the one place where she could truly feel at peace. It was a place she could go, where the worries of everyday life would slip away.//
A lot of this description was repetitive, and given that you're only two words above our required minimum, I can take a guess as to why. Empty filler is empty. If your story's good enough despite being below word count, we can accept it anyway. I will say that a lot of this description is pretty cold. It's very factual in its conveyance of emotion. Don't just tell me she feels content. Show me through how she acts, looks, speaks, and thinks. You might want to read over the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread. Especially this early in the story, you need to make an immediate emotional connection between the reader and your character, and that means letting me see this through her experience, not just having the narrator inform me of everything.

>bringing pleasant memories to her head//
By itself, this means nothing. What sort of memories? Describe a couple of them for me.

>As she stared amazed at the surreal beauty within the fountain//
Then why did she just describe it as dull?

>Pinkie could plainly see how depressed she was//
Let me see it, too. That's how you build sympathy for a character. If you get me to conclude she's sad, it's a lot more real than if you merely tell me.

>Sweetie only shrugged in response, her eyes never leaving the ground. Pinkie smiled warmly//
Here's an example of where you did it right. You don't say outright how they're feeling, but I can tell through your descriptions and actions.

>then sat down close—but not too close—next to her//
If we take out the aside, that would read: "then sat down close next to her." You have an extraneous word.

>After a few minutes passed while she gazed at the dancing night sky//
That's a pretty clunky phrasing. You've got competing chronology of "after" and "while" mashed together.

>letting her gaze drift back to the ground//
You never had her look up, so her gaze was already on the ground.

>Sympathy and worry flowed through her head//
Very telly.

>Pinkie wondered//
Using things like wondered, wanted, or thought as narrative actions are pretty weak. Be more direct. If she's wondering something, just have her wonder it.

>Sweetie's voice trailed off.//
I already got that from the punctuation. You don't need to communicate it again.

>She took a deep breath//
You have an awful lot of deep breaths and sighing. Mix up your character actions more.

>Her quivering lips and watery eyes really caught Pinkie's attention however.//
Why? They're not exactly extraordinary things. What about them was so noteworthy that you made a special point of remarking about them?

>who didn't move a muscle as she listened intently//
Set off the dependent clause with a comma.

>"Well..." she paused in thought, looking back to Sweetie, "...no.//
Your attribution has no speaking verb. I looks like you're actually trying to make this an aside though, so this is how you do it:
"Well—" she paused in thought, looking back to Sweetie "—no.
BUT
The break already implies a pause, so you don't need to narrate one.

>the cold ground//
You already used that phrasing. Watch the repetition.

>everyday//
In this sense, you need it to be two words.

>Sweetie Belle didn't move as she absorbed and pondered what she had just heard. Pinkie took advantage of the quiet moment to look back up in the sky and let the glow of the moon calm her mind. She silently thanked her friends for the support they were giving.//
You're keeping a shallow enough perspective throughout the story that I haven't seen any blatant problems, but this is getting close. Note how the first sentence speaks to things only Sweetie Belle would know internally, since you're not presenting it as Pinkie's interpretation of how she's acting. But in the next two sentences, you definitely say things that are internal to Pinkie. An omniscient narrator can certainly wander into different perspectives, but you have to do it smoothly. And you should absolutely not switch perspectives within a paragraph. There's a section on head hopping at the top of this thread that will give the rationale behind this.

>Whatever she said would possibly have an effect on the rest of the filly's life. Whatever she said needed to be perfect.//
That's overdramatizing things a bit, isn't it? She's momentarily upset about Opalescence, but she'll come to terms with it. It's not like she's suddenly going to get suicidal because she's realized her own mortality. For that matter why hasn't Rarity talked to Sweetie Belle? And why hasn't Pinkie asked how Rarity's taking it?

>One that if answered incorrectly could possiblely lead to a long, meaningless life for the little filly.//
Yes, you're definitely going over the top with this. And you have a typo there.

>It's only in most ponies' last moments do they recognize these gifts all around them and the effect they have on our lives.//
Syntax is a little jumbled here. Either lose the "it's" or replace "do" with "that."

>cold ground//
Again with the cold ground, huh?

>a single warm tear roll down her cheek//
It's hard to top "Luna's full moon," but this is an even more cliched thing.

It's a little pat that Sweetie Belle seems to feel completely better at the end. Reassured, maybe, but she'd still need to think things over. I get why you chose Pinkie for this role, but... she doesn't act that much like Pinkie. Subdued Pinkie is fine. It can work. But you need to get me into that mindset of why she's subdued. Part of this goes back to the beginning, where you tell me Pinkie finds her night walks peaceful, but you didn't show me. Show me what makes it peaceful for her and what thoughts and images are running through her head, and that will go a long way toward making this tamer Pinkie feel natural.

So, watch the telling, ease me into Pinkie's mood, what else...?

You had a few issues with word and phrase repetition. One which you probably wouldn't notice is this: was, 29; were, 8; is, 14; be/been/being, 15. That's 66 "to be" verbs, at least the easiest forms to spot. That's not an awful amount for this word count, but it's getting up there. These are very boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read about things that happen, not things that are. You should be choosing more active verbs.

Finally, the conflict. I love the angle you took on this, with Opal dying. But I'll reiterate my point about everyone overlooking Rarity's feelings about it. You at least recognize that the story needs to have some conflict, but Pinkie has a really overblown reaction to Sweetie Belle. If she doesn't say the perfect thing in response, Sweetie Belle will forever go through life as a withered shell of her former self and have a dread of death hanging over her? That's too much. And by overplaying it so much, you make Sweetie Belle's miraculous turnaraound feel inauthentic. Understated and subtle is much more powerful than in-your-face. Character growth can serve as a proxy for conflict, and you have Sweetie Belle set up for some. Just give some thought to her. Really put yourself in her situation and think about how you'd react to Pinkie. That realism will come through in the writing.
>> No. 129604
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>peaceful in every connotation of the word//
There... really aren't many connotations to that word. And this paragraph is really skirting the edge of a weather report opening. Weather is boring, unless it's critical to the plot. Get to your action or your characters. You can work the weather in later.

>Moments just like this evoked in her a subtle sense of complacency.//
And so we reach the end of the first paragraph. Note how many times you use "to be" verbs in this paragraph. They have their uses, but they're boring verbs on the whole. And boring a reader is especially harmful where you're trying to provide a good hook. Also note that all but one of the ten sentences starts with anything other than the subject. You don't want your writing to get in a rut. Mix it up. Lastly, this sentence I've excerpted is very telly. There's an explanation of show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>trees - a small whistle//
Please use a dash, not a hyphen.

>“Hey there. That's an interesting song.” offered Twilight as she stopped beside the young one at the bubbling brook.//
Dialogue punctuation. There's also a section on this up top.

>Ecclesia//
I assumed you meant to spell it this way. You used "Ecllesia" in your submission form. Careful next time.

>the princess's//
You're using these types of references quite a bit. Check out the section on Lavender Unicorn Syndrome, too.

>Do you need to see a doctor?//
Well, absent any signs of injury, why would she assume it was a physical problem?

>Ecclesia looked at her sadly.//
Another example of telly language. There's quite a bit of it in here.

>Twilight chuckled slightly in confusion.//
In addition to being telly, this is the first break we've had from eight solid paragraphs of speech. Another reference: now go read the section on talking heads.

>Thank you. I'm thankful//
Repetitive.

>laid on her back//
Lay/lie confusion.

>“Ssh. It's okay,” She looked at Twilight with her faded golden eyes.//
Dialogue punctuation. That can't be an attribution, since you have no speaking verb.

>It became apparent//
This is oddly disconnected from any of the characters. Your perspective has been with Twilight so far, but you leave it here without going anywhere in particular.

>Look Ecclesia//
Missing comma for direct address.

>several seconds//
There's a lot of this type of phrasing, too. It gets repetitive.

>a tear rolled down her cheek//
The old "single tear" cliche, huh?

>You're precious to me, I care about you and everypony in the world more deeply than you can understand.//
Comma splice.

>Ecclesia smiled with only a hint of sadness.//
I'm not getting much reaction from her, and what I do get is very telly. The result is that she comes across as very bland.

>A- are//
No spaces for a stutter.

>the word felt like a bomb inside her mouth that she dared not speak.//
That's not a dialogue tag. It needs to be a separate paragraph.

>sweeping craggy//
Coordinate adjectives need a comma to separate them.

Really, the biggest stylistic problem here is all the telly language. There were a few mechanical items as well, but nothing consistent enough that I could tell whether you just had a few oversights or got lucky.

On another note, I have to agree with one of your commenters. Whether you intended it to or not, this comes across as a very thinly veiled religious allegory. Personally, that doesn't bother me, but it's pretty close to the line of Equestria Daily policy. It doesn't come under consideration here, since there are enough other things I pointed out already, but if you're going to try resubmitting this again later, I'll have to call in another couple of pre-readers to decide where we stand on this. Even if you didn't have that in mind when writing it, I guarantee that a lot of readers will take it that way.
>> No. 129609
>>129604
Holy smokes! Thank you for the insight! Honestly, I wasn't aware of all the blunders in my writing until this point. I'm genuinely going to use this review to invigorate my writing. Sometimes all it takes is a little outside perspective, I suppose. My current project will greatly benefit now, since it has a lot of the same pitfalls as this fic did. So, thanks for the brutal wake up call. X)
>> No. 129610
>>129558

Alright, I think I am ready to resubmit. I spoke with both my editors about your:

>>But she has, when she discovered her own sterility. When people resort to drink over a shock, it's a shock of their own. She's surprised to find out her friends have been affected, but it'd be odd for her to bolt down some booze on their behalf. And she's shown no signs of feeling like she's the one responsible—she doesn't get apologetic about it—so she's not really bolstering herself against anything. If there were some outward signs that she was getting to be an emotional wreck over this, then I could see it.

This was their responses: "The problem with his assumption here is that he's assuming that telling the girls the bad news doesn't count as painful to Twilght.
And that's just her giving them the news, she has no reason not to expect at least one of them to curse her

Yeah, call it 'the weight of responsibility'
...plus, why else would booze be known as 'liquid courage' ?"

"... what?
No, I don't find this to be true at all.
People also drink to numb themselves for telling friends and loved ones incredibly bad news.

Her own damage, she can cope with. Her friends however, and while doing something she was responsible for, several times... guilt!"

I hope this one disagreement doesn't prejudice you. We three just differ from you on this one point.
>> No. 129619
>>129610
I'm going to post this here in case you'll notice it, since with the way the queue's been going lately, you may well not see it via email before the story gets posted.

>knock//
There's no need to italicize this. It's not being emphasized.

>one her best friends//
Missing an "of."

>I hope ya’ll are happy//
You spelled it correctly earlier (y'all).

>the gnarled messed left//
Typo.

>But, sis//
As a term of address, "Sis" would be capitalized.

>plum ridiculous//
plumb

>Applejack sniffled, and tilted her face back towards the ceiling.//
No comma.

>‘em//
Backward apostrophe.

>body scan//
You had this as a single word earlier. Be consistent.

>Twilight purposefully ignored Rainbow’s question and instead kept her eyes to the floor as she stalked into the kitchen. Cabinets being flung open followed by the sound of clinking glass could be heard.//
I'll point this out again. The "purposeful" puts this in Twilight's perspective, but the "could be heard" is in some perspective outside the kitchen. It's a really bad idea to change perspective inside a paragraph.

>scotch//
That's a proper noun.

>the other tribes//
Alicorns are a tribe?

>Rarity’s voice fell to a quiver.//
A quiver doesn't imply softness or a low tone, so this doesn't quite make sense.

>me!//
Italicize the exclamation mark.

>good ’un//
You mashed this together as one word earlier.

Okay, I'm going to explain the thing about the Scotch again, because I don't think your editors understood what my issue was, though it had seemed like you did in your initial response.

People don't bolt down whiskey purely on another's behalf; they do it on their own. If I hear the stranger next to me at a bar saying he got a divorce notice, I'm not going to need a drink to steady myself. But if the guy's my best friend, I might. In that case, it's because I care enough about him that his pain becomes mine. I'm still doing it on my behalf. So, yes, absolutely Twilight might have a drink in this situation. But I need the context. Let me come at this from another angle.

Say your brother-in-law whom you've never met comes for a visit. He's already there when you get home from work, so you're behind on the conversation. All you hear is him saying, "That's awful," and then he downs a glass of Scotch. He's stony-faced the entire time, and your wife doesn't react to his drinking. How do you interpret his action? Is he drinking because he's upset? He doesn't show it. Maybe it's normal for him to have a drink at this time of day. Your wife doesn't seem to be commiserating with him. So is she unaffected by whatever might be bothering him, or is she just unsurprised? It takes that context to establish what it all means.

So I'm glad you added the bits that showed Twilight was actually getting upset. That contextualizes the drinking for her. But I'm still not getting that from everyone else. They don't react to it at all, which makes it seem like this is completely normal behavior for her, and that steals some of its impact. A little goes a long way. All it'd take is a couple of them raising eyebrows at each other or some such, and voila, you've hammered home the full meaning. Seems like a minor point, but you dwelled on it for a few paragraphs, so it's worth giving it proper attention.

In any case, these are all minor things to address, and they can be handled while you wait for the story to go up.
>> No. 129622
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>Their appetite for horror leads them into a horrifying position//
Watch the word repetition.

Story:
>Applejack was wearing a simple blue dress, while Rarity was decked out in an extravagant gown studded with jewels.//
You're using quite a few of those past participles. I don't see how they add anything here that simple past doesn't, which would also avoid boring "to be" verbs.

>hmmphed//
Onomatopoeia in narration isn't a good idea.

>Applejacks hoof//
Missing apostrophe.

>to seen//
Missing word.

>"And that goes for you too, Apple Bloom and Scootaloo." Applejack amended.//
Dialogue punctuation. There's a section on this at the top of the thread.

>She opened her mouth as if to say something, but it took a moment for her to say anything.//
That's pretty repetitive. Also look back over the previous few paragraphs. Outside of dialogue, it's been quite a while since you started a narrative sentence with anything but the subject.

>she finally committed//
That's a really odd choice of speaking verb. You're pushing the edge on these. When you do it a little, it adds flavor to the story. When you do it a lot, it makes the writing itself noticeable and pushes me out of the story.

>that white book//
Using "that" here doesn't really work. It'd suit a conversational style of a first-person or third-person limited narrator, or it'd work if you'd mentioned it before. But as it is, it just sounds odd.

>she told them//
You got this right in the first sentence. It's an event in the story's past, so use past perfect tense (had told).

>The air in the cellar was chilly, and carried the vague smell of dirt and fruit//
Have a look at the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread, too.

>this one was made of across work of sticks//
Typo.

>two legged//
Hyphenate your compound modifiers.

>She was relieved//
Here's the main problem I see with your story. I'm getting very little emotional context from these girls. You're telling me all the things they do, but not how they feel about any of it. I gather they're supposed to be scared, but they all seem pretty bland. And on the occasion like this where you do wedge in a bit of emotion, it's too blunt. The section up top about show versus tell will explain.

>At least she couldn't see it from here.//
Wouldn't she be even more unnerved to know it was behind her?

>When Sweetie Belle nosed her way into the center of the covering//
Set off most dependent clauses with commas.

>she noticed Scootaloo//
Given that your narrator isn't being consistently objective, you need to keep in mind who your perspective character is at all times. So far, when he's held a perspective, it's always been Scootaloo's, but here he's adopting Sweetie Belle's.

>Sweetie Belles//
Another missing apostrophe.

>knick-knacks//
Knickknacks. And this is a very odd word choice.

>a figure crude but it was enough for the magician//
Syntax is off.

>laid sprawled//
Lay/lie confusion.

>Kneeled beside his friend//
Verb tense.

>She turned back to her friends, exposing them fully to how badly she was shaking.//
Awkward phrasing.

Finally, toward the end of this scene, you're giving me more indirect cues of the girls' emotions. You really ought to be doing this through the story as well. It just comes across as a big block of text. Surely the girls are reacting or doing something as they listen to the story. Check ni every so often and let me see it.

Wait, what was that scene break for? There's no time skip, no shift of perspective, no change in setting... I don't see a reason for it.

>carefully//
With what's running through her mind right now, she's really going to be that careful with the book?

>Well it isn't here," Sweetie Belle said.//
Missing a line break here.

>Scaredycrow's//
Misused apostrophe.

>CRASH!//
Another one of those sound effects in narration. Just describe it.

>"Where's Granny Smith?"//
Another missing line break. And now that I think of it, why are they scared of the scaredycrow? It wasn't the evil thing in the story. Nothing was said about it being good or bad. If I'm supposed to be scared for them, you need to give me a reason to be.

>Shhhh.
Who says this? Don't just leave it unattributed like this.

>and the world became tilted and her breathing became rapid.//
This is very impersonal and external. This should be a result of Scootaloo's fright, but it's very vague in that regard. It's pretty bland.

>whatever was making it//
Any possible antecedent for "it" is located several paragraphs back. Not the best use of a pronoun.

>She had laid down on the floor//
Lay/lie confusion again.

>Apple Bloom would have would have followed too hadn't a glimpse of white on the floorboards caught her eye//
Syntax is off.

>lead it into a frantic dance//
led

>Her heart near stopped//
nearly

>Scootaloo was snoring in a heap besides her.//
Typo.

>I don’t think its waiting for us//
Its/it's confusion.

>Sugar Cube Corner//
As per canon, Sugarcube.

>Stuffs of cloud//
Huh?

>now you may stride for those dreams//
While this could make sense as written, I wonder if you meant "strive."

And that ending... I still have no idea how these girls feel about it. Is Sweetie Belle still scared of it, or has she changed her mind? I'm also unclear on the Scaredycrow's motives. I could see it as Applejack or one of her friends playing a prank, especially since they mentioned Twilight had been helping with it in the basement. But they sure took the joke far in that case. On the other hand, if this thing is real, how did Twilight not notice anything unusual about it? And it's potrayed as something that doesn't mean them harm, at least. So in either case, driving them to jump out a window, then not making sure they're okay? That's definitely taking it too far. It also doesn't quite ring true that if the girls are that scared, two of them could sleep, and none of them thought of running for help once they were outside.

One more note about repetition: You use a lot of "to be" verbs. They're boring. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. You have 125 instances of "was" alone. If I include other common forms, I find 194. That's almost one every other sentence. You need to be choosing more active verbs.

It's not a bad story, but the lack of emotional investment and the leaps of logic in a few places are holding it back.
>> No. 129623
>>129622
Thank you for taking the time to write all this out. A simple rejection letter would have worked, but you took the time to point out my word mix-ups and typos, and now my story is better for it. So again, thank you. Besides the easily fixable errors, I won't address your critique for this story, but I will keep it in mind for any future writings of mine.

Last edited at Sat, Feb 1st, 2014 15:22

>> No. 129639
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>Given that on this particular day she is blessed with many wonderful friends and family members, she receives many gifts on her birthday.//
This is odd. "On this particular day" and "she is blessed with many wonderful friends and family" are both valid thoughts, but they're separate. You've made them sound interdependent. She has friends and family on other days, after all.

>one-thousand seven hundred and ninteenth birthday//
Don't put a hyphen there, and it's improper to put an "and" in the number like that.

>She is nonplussed.//
Consider how many people will have to look up that word before they even start on the story. You want to remain accessible.

Story:
>Yes, they washed over her implying that the sun was already high in the sky, which it was.//
Missing a comma for the participle. You also have quite the weather-report opening there, and the whole "her sun" thing is so cliched. Add to that the sheer number of boring "to be" verbs (4 of them in only 3 sentences), and this is a really poor hook.

>She would just a few simple minutes//
Missing word.

>for later possible use, should the occasion ever arise for her to use it//
Repetitive.

>the definition of xanthippe was the third most important thing on the page; the second being a crude drawing of a scowling pegasus mare to drive home the meaning of the word//
Misused semicolon. There is no independent clause after it.

>and thus had a birthday//
You set this off with a comma on one end. Why not the other?

I'm a page or two in now, and I'm just getting crushed under the exposition. A couple of paragraphs is fine, but now you've gone on for paragraph after paragraph of the history and attitudes of this day. There are far more elegant and readable ways of working in exposition gradually and indirectly. The strength of your story is pretty much in the premise alone, and it takes you half your word count to get there.

>She bathed in the perfectly positioned beam of warm sunlight right at the hoof of her bed, and smiled//
Have a look at the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>For a brief moment, she began panicking.//
And yet I never get that sense from her. Except for these few bland words about it, you never convince me of this. Have a look at the section on show versus tell, too.

>However, everything was cleared up with a simple use of the Royal Canterlot Voice from the mystery pony, as most things tended to be.//
Most things tend to be cleared up by the Royal Canterlot Voice?

>scanned the pile a she chewed//
Typo.

>What book hast she given thee this year?//
if you're going to use archaic language, please get it right. The conjugation for "she" is "hath."

>Yes, We remember that one.//
If she's capitalizing "We" for herself, then why not "thee" for her sister?

>untying the bow that the package was tied//
Repetitive.

>"Thou beguiled us with your subtextual actions, Tia!'//
Mismatched types of quotes. And archaic conjugation again.

>We can figure out who it's from later.//
Whom.

>Dost thou appreciate the gift, sister?//
As a term of address, "Sister" would be capitalized.

>ninety three//
Here's the only spot you'd put a hyphen in a number.

>the head of the squid//
Such phrasings are needlessly indirect. "The squid's head" is much more direct and concise without losing any meaning.

>"I think I'll take him to court tomorrow and see if anypony claims credit for it. I'll be sure to let you know if I find out."//
Yes. You already said as much.

>Luna had denied Celestia's requests to help clean up the mess the two of them had made, part of the party did, admittedly, involve a food fight, and so Celestia was able to go straight to bed.//
The comma before "part" is a splice.

>Just like the other three hundred and sixty-four days of the year, Celestia was woken up by the sound of her alarm clock screeching in her ears.//
So you do a scene break for the short time skip between opening the presents and eating the cake, but you go without one for the entire night?

>Count Vichy's pompous smile flickered when he heard that Luna raised the sun//
This is another issue with the story. There are numerous passages where information is repeated or over-explained. Give the reader some credit.

>Not being able to say that out loud//
Another example of the same. Given that you punctuated it as thought, we already know she didn't say it out lous and can surmise why.

>the Equestrian toy scene would suddenly boom with toy squids//
More word repetition.

>With that bit of excitement passed//
Passed/past confusion.

>A great rush of maternal affection coursed through Celestia, and she hugged Blueblood with her wings and forelegs. Blueblood tensed up, surprised by the embrace//
This is the emotional climax of the story. And the entire context is told to me. There's very little here for me to visualize. You need to paint a picture in my head and let me figure out how they feel from it.

There's not a lot to say that hasn't already been said. The pervasive issues were a weather report opening, long initial info dump, over-explanation, and telly language. I will elaborate on one thing: "to be" verbs. Just do a Ctrl-f for "was" and watch the page light up like a Hearth's Warming tree. Counting all of the more common forms, I came up with 179. That's a ton. It's a little less than one every other sentence, but you tend to use them in clusters, which is a common problem, so they're very locally repetitive. That ratio isn't horrible for a shorter work, but to maintain it over a longer story just gets grating. This is a very boring verb. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. You need to be choosing more active verbs.

You're also very thin on the conflict or character growth. We get a tiny bit about Blueblood, since his involvement is an unexpected look at his character. But it's a minor point, and neither he nor Celestia show much emotional investment in what happens. She treats the whole thing as more of a curiosity. She's not apparently affected. What was at stake? What changed as a result? What new thing did we learn about a main character? I get that Blueblood's reveal was unexpected, but we're not going to be very invested in someone who doesn't enter the picture until the final few paragraphs. What is it Celestia wants? What bad thing might happen if she doesn't get it? What do we learn about her in the process? An engaging story will address at least one of these.
>> No. 129653
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Granny Smith looked to Big Macintosh.//
Watch repeating "looked" so soon after the last time.

>both the color of apple juice//
Not sure why you're repeating that description, either.

>Applejack lie on her side on her bed, facing the wall away from him//
Lay/lie confusion. Also watch the participles. They can often be misplaced modifiers. It sounds like the bed is facing away from him.

>Although the sobbing had gone, it left shuddering motions in her sides in its place.//
Really awkward phrasing.

>OK//
Spell it out as "okay."

>Ah’m allus fine.//
>Y’arready know.//
This is really too much. There are writers who insist on imitating strong accents, but there are several problems with doing so. First, it slows the reader down. Second it presupposes the voice the reader might want to use. Third, since these are predefined characters, the reader already knows how she sounds and will fill that in for you. It's more about word choice and phrasing. A strong visual accent is really a tough thing to get right, especially for a character who gets a lot of lines.

>‘bout//
Smart quotes always get leading apostrophes wrong. This is backward. I see more of them. You'll need to do a sweep.

>(as he hadn’t come to any sort of conclusion as to what he could, should, couldn’t, or shouldn’t say before)//
Having the narration be this self-aware is really, really clumsy.

>Before he opened his eyes//
You never had him close them...

>Outside the room, Apple Bloom looked at Applejack’s door//
Why the perspective shift? You had me in Big Mac's head, and nothing of note happened with him. Then you jerk me over into Apple Bloom's perspective. If you weren't going to use Big Mac to any significant end, why not start with Apple Bloom from the beginning?

>forlornly//
This is unnecessary. It's telly, for one, but you do more after this to get at her mood in a less blunt manner.

>it was for this reason that Apple Bloom was scared//
Same deal. You might want to read the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>whose face was still colored with concern//
Telly again, but also very clumsy to have your perspective character note things about herself so externally.

>but found she couldn’t continue//
And now you're in Granny's perspective. Read the section up top about head hopping.

>FIdgeted//
Typo.

>Apple Bloom became afraid.//
The point here is to get us to feel this with her. Noting her emotion as a cold fact is not the way to accomplish that.

>“They din’t live long ‘nuff to make such an impact on yer life ‘s they did ar’s. S’long as we never forget ‘em, an’ keep ‘em in ar hearts, it’ll hurt less an’ less ev’ry year.”//
Just... no. This is such a chore to read.

>B-But//
Unless it's a word that has to be capitalized no matter what, only capitalize the first part of a stutter.

>The words refused to leave her mouth, so they left her eyes instead, as tears.//
Okay, I see the poetic meaning you're going for, but this is really strangely phrased.

>She collected herself, and tried again.//
Also see the part about comma use with conjunctions.

>Death ain’t ‘good-bye’. It’s ‘See ya later’.//
Inconsistent capitalization in the quotes.

>'kin//
First, why the mix of plain and fancy quotes, and second, what exactly is the apostrophe contracting? It's an imitative spelling—you haven't removed any letters.

Well, the big things should be obvious. There is a lot of telly language in here, the accents are overwritten to the point of being burdensome to read, and you have a very inconsistent perspective. There's really nothing more to say about that than the reference material I already pointed out.

It's also pretty obvious that Applejack would be crying about her parents, yet you hold it back like it's some surprise. There isn't really any different conflict happening here that hasn't happened in many other stories.

This may warrant a bit more explanation, as canon isn't exactly definitive, but when do you envision this taking place? First, you have AJ's parents die before she went to live in Manehattan. But Apple Bloom must have been quite young at the time, so did Big Mac and Granny Smith really leave her unattended to see AJ off and welcome her home later? And in "The Cutie Mark Chronicles," AJ's pretty forthcoming about why she left town. Does this take place after that episode?
>> No. 129670
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>Just once I would like to sit with her and actually talk to get, and for her to listen.//
Typo.

>will finally go out.....//
An ellipsis is three dots, and ending a synopsis with one is pretty cliched, anyway.

Story:
>It was a warm, crisp spring day.//
Weather report opening. These are vastly overdone. Your story has a point and characters. Just get to them. Wasting time on the weather only shows that you couldn't think of anything more to say, unless the weather is actually a major plot point. You can work the weather in later.

>as it's light danced across the rolling hills//
Its/it's confusion.

>Maternity Ward//
Why in the world is this capitalized?

>jello//
That's a brand name (Jell-O), one that they presumably wouldn't know in Equestria. Probably better to use "jelly."

>his patience growing thin//
>this, she knew, was her last chance//
You really have to be mindful of whose perspective you want the narrator to emulate, or if you want to keep him outside of any perspective altogether. Look at these examples. The first is in the father's perspective. You don't discuss any external evidence of how someone could tell he felt that way, so you're telling us from inside his head. Likewise for the mother in the second example. Read the section about head hopping at the top of this thread. It'll tell you the rationale behind deciding if and when to shift perspective, but you absolutely shouldn't shift it within a single paragraph, as you've done here.

>"What a sight it was", they always told me, "Seeing the doctor fly up 3 feet in the air, because of a few minute old filly."//
That first comma goes inside the quotes, and there's no need to capitalize "seeing," since it continues the quote from before within the same sentence. There's a section at the top of the thread on dialogue punctuation/capitalization as well. Spell out numbers this short, and hyphenate your compound modifiers (few-minute-old).

>most baby unicorns have magic surges when they are little//
"When they are little" is redundant, since you've already identified them as babies.

>at the time, since she was only a young filly at the time//
Watch close repetition of words and phrases.

>she not get any allowance for a full month//
Syntax is off.

>So she took all of the bits she had saved up, and worked so hard on the dress.//
Also see the section on comma use with conjunctions.

>mom and dad//
When you refer to them in place of names like this (versus a more generic use like "my mom and dad"), they get capitalized.

This extended flashback in italics would be better used as a separate scene. With a proper transition, you wouldn't have to render it in italics. Italics are fine in short bursts, but they get irritating when they go on and on like this. They're intended to make things stand out, but when everything's italicized, it defeats that purpose.

>Yes mommy?//
Missing comma for direct address.

>"I know this is hard on both of you," Mom put her hoof on Rarities shoulder, "Especially you Rarity, since you loved this place so much, and I know we promised to give this place to you once you got older....but this is a big oportunity for us. You two would come with us too. We could all still be together-"//
Where to begin? You've pluralized "Rarity" where you needed a possessive. You've inserted a speech attribution without a speaking verb. You misspelled "opportunity," the capitalization/punctuation pattern is wrong, your ellipsis has too many dots, and you've used a hyphen where you need a dash.

>RARITY!!//
One exclamation mark is plenty.

>My sister became too busy//
This is the third mention of Rarity being busy in the last four sentences. I get the picture.

>Applebloom//
Apple Bloom

>Orders flew in because ponies wanted their dresses to be made by one of the Elements of Harmony.//
This might require a bit more justification. There's no evidence in canon that ponies place any importance on this or even recognize them as such.

>-__-//
Seriously? You're going to put emoticons in your text?

>Oh, that old thing, I found it today while I was looking for some fabric.//
That's odd, too. She's sometimes out of touch with her sister, but so much that she'd ruin something she knew meant a lot to her? That's hard to take without some explanation.

>I felt a hoof come up and hit my face.//
And then Rarity hits her for pointing it out? You're losing me. Your left margin is also inconsistent. I at least see you do explain the incident with the dress later on, but she can't come up with a better story? And now it makes even less sense that Rarity would hit her.

>.....//
This may cut it as video game dialogue, but not here.

>I look around at my surrounds.//
Surroundings

>arguement//
argument

>The nurse's eyes, who I recognized to be Nurse Redheart, widened in shock.//
The "who I recognized" needs to describe something, but it can't describe the nurse, since she doesn't appear in the sentence. Only her eyes do.

>Applebloom, and Scootaloo all piled into the room//
Weren't they already in there? If not, whom did she hear when she woke up?

>" Um...I'm//
Extraneous space, and it's standard to leave a space after an ellipsis, unless it's a leading one or followed by punctuation.

>I don't even know why I asked, after everything she has said and done//
Tense shift.

>S-she//
Consider what sound she would actually be repeating. Sh-she

>No Rarity."//
Missing the opening quotation marks. And a comma for direct address, for that matter.

>Her were cheeks//
Typo.

>you never had anymore time for me//
In this instance "any more" needs to be two words.

>never to busy for your other friends//
To/too confusion.

>ruinning//
Not sure why I'm seeing this many obvious spelling errors. Any word processing software will catch these.

>with a large amethyst in the middle, and small diamonds surrounding it, the amethyst in the shape of a music note//
See how the focus wanders? It goes from the amethyst to the diamonds, and, oh yeah, something else about the amethyst.

>She rubbed the top of my head, "Sweetie Belle//
You can't just attach any given action to speech with a comma. There has to be a speaking action.

>"I hope so too." A voice said.//
And here's the opposite problem. You do have a speaking action, but you haven't punctuated/capitalized it as an attribution.

>I lid down//
Typo, but it also looks like you were about to pick the wrong one of the lay/lie combo.

>Meanwhile, after I had fallen asleep, Rarity had walked outside of my room, to speak with the doctor.//
Wait, how is she narrating events she didn't witness? Unless you tell me how she knows this or you have a framing story in which it makes sense, you don't do that with a first-person narrator.

>When she was hit by the cart, it must have triggered something in that part of her brain, and now the tumor has now begun to grow again//
Okay. How can he possibly know this? He's never seen it before now, so how does he know whether it's grown or not? And she hasn't been in the hospital very long. Even if the accident somehow caused it to grow again, t wouldn't be measurable yet.

>W-what will happen if she does get the operation.//
That's a question. Shouldn't it have a question mark?

>She can get a brain transplant.//
What? How would she even still be Sweetie Belle?

>Not many ponies that age WANT to donate.//
Why would any want to donate? A pony can't exactly live without a brain, so even a 100% success rate is still breaking even. And if you mean only transplanting part of the brain, you've already said that the part of Sweetie Belle's that needs to be removed would likely kill her, so how are the odds any better than that for a donor? There are some serious plausibility problems here. And her head's much bigger than Sweetie Belle's. How will her brain even fit in there?

>They only donors//
Typo.

>lil'//
You see this spelling in commercial use often enough, but the correct spelling is li'l.

>Ya'll//
Y'all

>Get better, Sugarcube//
That's not a nickname specific to Sweetie Belle. It's just a generic term of endearment, so it wouldn't be capitalized.

>Unfortunately, all ponies who do transplant brains do die.//
So those willing donors you mentioned earlier basically wanted to die. That's pretty creepy.

>They tried to smile as they lead Rarity out of the room.//
The past tense of "lead" is "led."

>one I haven't received from her in a long time//
Verb tense.

>Time Turner looked towards Rarity as I went in the operating room.//
Why the scene break? There's no shift in time, place, or perspective.

>She thinks that when she wakes up, I'll be right there by her side//
You're having Sweetie Belle narrate this, but it's presumably something she doesn't actually witness, since she'd certainly have a reaction to it, but we get none.

>I looked towards the window; It was almost morning in Ponyville.//
Don't capitalize after a semicolon.

> I raised my hoof gently to my head. The pain was almost gone, but still slightly there. I put my hoof to my head//
So she puts her hoof to her head twice?

>Replacing it was a series of stitches that made a line around my entire head.//
She'd have a bandage covering that, surely.

>"Sweetie, we have something to tell you."//
And this is why this whole scenario is incredibly cruel to Sweetie Belle. To put all this on her? And if I'm Rarity, I'm going to be put off by the fact that absolutely everyone accepted my decision without question. Sure shows the relative value they place on her and Sweetie Belle.

>The bright, bubbly mare was no staring at the floor//
Typo.

>She could not cheer her up, for she was also suffering.//
Vague pronoun use. I can't tell who's doing what.

>My parents were sat just next to me//
Phrasing.

>adress//
You ran these two words together.

>Recalling that memory left a whole in my shattered heart.//
hole

>She then used it to wiped her own.//
Verb form.

>We all walked through a long, golden hallway of the castle that lead to a garden full of statues.//
"Led" again.

>I gazed up at them for what seemed like hours, just gazing at their beauty.//
So she gazed, you say.

>besides my sister and I//
This is actually a spot for "me."

>I never thought to much on it.//
To/too confusion again.

>mean't//
Why in the world is that apostrophe there?

>I couldn't just go to Canterlot everyday//
In this usage, "every day" needs to be two words.

>elements//
You're inconsistent at capitalizing this.

>A single tear dropped down her check//
Typo, and this is one of the most cliched things you could have possibly done.

Song lyrics...

This is an actual song that Sarah McLachlan sang. You know using non-MLP copyrighted lyrics is against FiMFiction's policy, right?

>It was a fire ruby in the shape of a heart, the same one that Spike had given to Rarity//
Doesn't this imply a lot of disturbing things? First, what did the gem have to do with Sweetie Belle or how she got her cutie mark? It's awfully indirect, saying that the song which caused it was inspired by Rarity, because wouldn't that mean her talent was singing things that had to do with Rarity? And what does this imply about her relationship with Spike? That she's going to inherit his crush? This is also pretty creepy.

>as she looking down upon the world//
Phrasing.

I'd encourage you to use the [hr] bbcode character or something short and centered for scene breaks. The dashes you're drawing can go for multiple lines on a phone.

There's a mixed bag of mechanical problems, all pervasive, but not too many of them consistent, and all are certainly fixable. Really, the big problem here is the plot, and there are two tiers of it. On a fundamental level, some of the things that happen just don't make sense. I've pointed out quite a few of them, like how there's apparently an availability of donor brains, even though this always results in the donor's death. Why are these ponies signing up to be donors? On another level, there are things that potentially could make sense, but don't with the amount of explanation we get. For instance, I can believe that Rarity would be willing to make a sacrifice of this magnitude for her sister, but the context for doing it is nonexistent, so she just makes a snap decision and nobody tries to reason through it with her. I can't believe everypony thinks this is a good idea or is at least neutral about it. I can't just make that leap for you that her decision makes sense. You have to get me there.
>> No. 129696
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Wonderbolt’s//
As used, it's a noun adjunct, and a plural one at that. You don't need the apostrophe.

>and I am immune to both poison and foodborne illness//
This feels more like a headcanon inclusion. What relevance does it have to the letter's message, and isn't it something Twilight would already know about her? This is the type of thing that makes letter-based stories or even the inclusion of a letter difficult to do well. You really need to think about what would be reasonable to put in the letter without using it as a device for infodump or exposition. And it's "food-borne."

>foals play//
I believe you intended a meaning more like foal's play.

>she thought, as she helped herself to more soup//
Why is this in past tense?

>What was the intent?//
This is the 17th "to be" verb in the first two paragraphs alone. This is bringing the action to a shuddering standstill. It's far more interesting to read about what happens, not what merely is, and the beginning of the story (insofar as this is effectively the first chapter), is a crucial spot to draw the reader into the characters and action. You really need to be using primarily active verbs.

>It is a detail of her environment, but not an important one. Catalogued, but without much importance to it.//
You're giving me some narrative whiplash. Take these lines from earlier:
>Well, no. That’s a lie. It’s actually incredibly important//
These lines come from deep in Twilight's perspective, essentially making her the narrator. But here, your narrator, while still adopting an informal tone, is decidedly external to her. She'd be awfully self-aware about her thought process to comment on it this way. I don't buy that she'd actually follow the train of thought like this .

>farm-stuff//
Why is this hyphenated?

>wellbeing//
well-being

>will-of-the-wisp//
Typically, will-o'-the-wisp. Again later in the chapter.

>The letter had been there//
The use of past perfect would be appropriate in a past-tense narration, but you're using present, so go with simple past here.

>Applejack says, cutting Pinkie off with a chuckle//
This is the first bit of characterization I get from any of her lunch companions, outside of what they say. Their part is rather bland. They're not doing anything. They might as well be statues.

>She is analyzing, picturing. She sees the map of the farmhouse and barn and the areas around it as she knows them.//
See, this is much better than the spots I marked earlier. It still gets us in her analytical mood, but in a way that's more personal to her.

>tryin’//
I wouldn't recommend doing this with Pinkie, especially since Applejack's getting a lot of dialogue here. It's not really an affectation Pinkie uses, and it makes their speech blend together.

>Twilight notices for the first time that Rarity has quite moved on past lunch and on to tea//
You just mentioned that she was still chewing, so this doesn't quite make sense, unless you specifying what she's eating, so I know it's not a lunch item, but mentioning it earlier kind of precludes doing so here. Might take a bit of restructuring.

>Less than five hundred words.//
This is a really odd thing to say. It smacks of you looking at the FiMFic word count to make a factual statement, but I can't see Twilight actually counting them.

>saw the latter//
Saw the latter what? I don't see a list of options anywhere. Maybe you meant "letter"?

>as if life was a dissertation//
Subjunctive mood needed here for the hypothetical. "as if life were"

>she has kept the regiment up//
Unless she's joined the military as well, you want "regimen."

>“Do they have coffee?” she asks, blinking. The sun is far, far too bright.//
And she's already commented that soup was a bad choice. ("It's so damn hot! Milk... was a bad choice." Sorry.) She wouldn't think the same thing here about a hot drink?

>It is no problem ‘t all, my dear.//
Your apostrophe is backward, but when has Rarity ever used this contraction?

>I found her on the couch this morning.//
Okay, now I have the context, but why did Rainbow stop by the library before going home? It doesn't make sense. She's familiar enough with the town to find Rarity's home in the dark, particularly since it's apparently her home now, too. It makes that earlier encounter a contrived reason to have Dash and Twilight interact. I see later, this gets a bit of an explanation, but it's weak, especially since Rarity was surprised Dash didn't go upstairs. I can't tell whether you're implying Dash just needed to get away, Rarity suspects she has a thing for Twilight, etc.

>Twilight has dared to try it only once, and the experience haunts her nightmares in an absurd fashion.//
How so? Without knowing, it's a bland fact. If you're trying to inject some humor, it's worth a little extra attention, and if not, you don't need this.

>Florid description has its place, she decides with certainty, like a mason laying brick.//
I don't get the comparison. There's no inherent parallel, and you don't make one.

>But, regardless//
These are redundant.

>A were about barrenness//
Missing word.

>mending.They//
Missing space.

>You took my by surprise.//
Typo.

>Twilight reaches out hesitantly with a hoof then put it down.//
Mismatched verb tenses.

>How could she tell?//
Verb tense again.

>T-thank //
Think about what sound would actually be repeated. Th-thank

>I think a lot depends on you answer.//
Typo.

>food choice seem strange//
Yes, and everyone's choice of beverage, too.

>Am I being foolish?//
You're starting to wander outside what feels like natural conversation. A prepared speech, yes, but this is very fancy language for an off-the-cuff discussion, and people don't normally use direct address this frequently. What she's saying is fine, and the wording itself is nicely crafted at first glance, but it just doesn't feel authentic. Can you imagine two people at the next table in a coffee shop speaking like this?

>pegasi spirit//
Noun adjuncts are almost always singular.

>I’m going to head home now if I may take my leave of you.//
Needs a comma for the dependent clause.

>confidant//
Confidant/confident confusion.

I'll go ahead and comment on this chapter in lieu of waiting until the end. This is the kind of chapter I have to be in the right mood to enjoy, and I'm more forgiving in this regard than many readers. I actually liked it, but I'm not sold on its purpose. It does a great job of setting up a mood, and the character interactions were great (just watch the number of times you directly tell me how someone feels, either through the exact word, like "sad," or through an adverb form, like "happily"—it's forcing a distance from the characters that isn't good for engagement). There's barely a connection between what happens here and the stated plot progression in the synopsis or Celestia's letter. If either had mentioned a little more specifically that the vague things being wrong included interpersonal relationships (and I'm taking a bit of a leap to think this is a symptom of your overarching conflict), this would tie in directly. But without any such link, all I have to go along with the theme so far is these strange happenings with the grass and road. There are some great slice-of-life things happening in this chapter, but they go on far too long to be a nice sidetrack, and I don't see that there's a point yet. It's not that I don't trust there will be eventually, but you can only dangle that carrot so long before I give up and find something else to read. It really wouldn't take much—just give me some bread crumbs to make it obvious this is leading somewhere. If it ends up that you could have cut most of this chapter without affecting the story, then that's absolutely what you should do. Or if this is all important, let me see it. You spend so much time deep in Twilight's thoughts, so why is the majority of it incredibly vague with respect to her worries about her friends? There's a default amount she'd get anyway, since they're her friends, and I'm not getting anything above and beyond that. Honestly, it feels like she's far more concerned about these circles.

>man//
On the fence about this word choice, as canon has had to bow to using some human-centric words before, but it seems like you could get away with using "staff" here.

>your highness//
The honorific would be capitalized.

>storms and//
Extraneous space.

>phenemon//
Phenomena

>who I have sworn to secrecy//
whom

>rutts//
ruts

It's wholly unnecessary for your two letter chapters to be italicized. First, they're already set apart as separate from everything else, and it's obvious they're letters, so you don't need to make that distinction. Casting a letter in italics is only necessary if it's short enough that it doesn't even warrant being its own scene. Second, italics make things stand out, and by having the entire chapter italicized in both cases, you've explicitly shown me that nothing stands out. Not to mention that extended italics get irritating to read.

In the end, I think this story is promising. The mood and interpersonal moments are good, but my top three items would be to make me see during chapter two that these happenings are connected to the overall plot (Twilight coldly noted them all without presenting any suspicions that this was the case), watch where the narrative tone switches to something that feels external to Twilight, and watch the telly language (there's a short discussion of show versus tell at the top of this thread, if you need a refresher). As a related note, watch the number of "to be" verbs as well. A decent number of these are tied up in the telly language.

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>> No. 129713
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

The only critique I'd make of the synopsis is that it only has a short time to grab the reader's interest. It's best to avoid boring "to be" verbs in favor of something active there, and the couple you have wouldn't be hard to replace.

>The slight rise of pressure in her ear was the first tell.//
Pronouns work by antecedent. I've never been a fan of a character's first introduction being via pronoun. If you're trying to create an aura of mystery, a generic term is fine.

>soddened//
"Sodden" is already an adjective. Why are you making a fake verb out of it, and a passive one at that?

>NOW!!//
One exclamation mark is plenty, and italics are preferred for emphasis.

>ok//
Spell it out as "okay."

>Thunder Lane//
Not sure if there's an actual canon spelling, but I've always seen it as one word.

>All she got in response was a look of abject terror//
This is little more than a cold fact unless you show it to me. In some places, that may be enough, but not here where you're trying to create an engaging action sequence right at the beginning of the story.

>rain driven//
Needs a hyphen for the compound descriptor.

>street-by-street, block-by-block//
Hyphens not needed on these.

>Golden Oak library//
Oaks, and "Library" would also be capitalized.

>was broken by the piercing scream//
Passive voice is a bad choice for an action sequence.

>But Rainbow Dash knew that she was no ordinary pegasus. She was the Captain of the weather team, the best flyer in Equestria, a lock for a future spot on the Wonderbolts squad, and most importantly, the Element of Loyalty.//
This all feels really contrived. She's faced with a huge storm, has only seconds to spare, and this is the train of thought she follows? You're slamming on the brakes in the middle of a race.

>a worried look//
You're directly informing me of character emotions an awful lot. Have a look at the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>fogged up//
Another spot where you need a hyphen.

>an audible groan//
Redundant. If it's not audible, it's not a groan, is it?

>spinning - neither//
Please use a proper dash.

>asked Rainbow, as she tried to pull Cloud Kicker off of a clearly blacked out Thunder Lane.//
Note that using a comma with an "as" clause tends to create a meaning of "because."

>"I... Oof... I don't know.//
Earlier in the story, you didn't leave a space after an ellipsis. Be consistent.

>Doing her best to support the injured leg, Rainbow guided Cloud Kicker a few steps to her left and slowly sat her down onto the ledge of the now over-flowing fountain.//
"Overflowing" is one word. Through this section of the story, you're completely undercutting any sense of urgency you'd created before. This wall cloud was supposed to be some hellish thing that would rip apart Ponyville if they didn't do anything to stop it. Well, they didn't get the chance to, and yet: 1) There's absolutely no damage to the town going on, and 2) they're not having any trouble moving around in the weather and are making no attempt to find shelter. A quadruped can limp on three legs well enough, and if this storm has such a legendary fury, and there's debris from the town flying about, wouldn't that be their primary concern?

>The leading edge of the left wing was clearly broken, the normally solid, smooth bone line rough and out of alignment. No bones had broken through//
Huh? It's broken but... not broken? I get what you're saing, but the language is confusing and misleading.

>a vicious shot of pain raced from his damaged wing straight through the rest of his body//
Watch your perspective. You've been in Dash's alone so far, but the way you tell it, this is in his head. Keep your point of view in mind as you write so that you only shift perspective when it's necessary and constructive to do so.

>betraying the pain he was trying to hide with sheer stubbornness//
Most participial phrases should be set off with a comma.

>Yeah, I'm ok//
This is already the 7th use of ok in this scene. Watch the repetition.

>But,//
Commas directly after conjunction are rarely used correctly. This one is not.

>totally unused to using her left hoof for such motions//
Really? It's a little awkward, but would s person really have such a hard time using their off hand to take off goggles that it'd be worth mentioning?

>and this storm's only getting worse! We need to find some shelter//
This is coming very late in the game to be convincing.

>There's mostly businesses here Dash//
Missing a comma for direct address.

>shop keepers//
One word.

>unless you want to break into a store//
And given their injuries, does she really think anyone would blame her?

>A thought clicked in Rainbow's head. The library was just a few blocks past the edge of the square//
But she was already thinking about the library before. You went on for a while about how she longed to be back there. And then she suddenly forgets all about it?

>Just the thought of the bookish unicorn sent her mind racing back to what was supposed to be the biggest event of the night.//
And you're doing it again. While her mind should be primarily on her colleagues, the weather, and her own discomfort, you're going to have her reminisce? What this tells me is that the storm and her friends' injuries are minor enough that she can let her mind wander.

>Since her first introduction to the bookish unicorn//
Second use of that exact descriptor in this paragraph alone, and you're courting the edge of Lavender Unicorn Syndrome.

>the nerdy librarian//
And still in the same paragraph. Yeah, definitely LUS. There's a section on that at the top of this thread.

>'Fluttershy may be right',
Comma goes inside the quotes.

>But I'll never know if I don't ask her.
Dialogue capitalization. There's a section for this, too.

>day dream//
One word.

>the incessant assault of rain, wind, and flying debris//
So incessant that it's barely warranted mention? And I counted only one piece of debris.

>the accompanying thunder clap blowing out what few windows remained in Bon Bon's candy store//
You're really crossing the line from realism into movie-type theatrics here. And you've basically said here that there were already some windows blown out in the store. So why the earlier comment about not wanting to break into a store? They could have gotten in there.

>before the incessant lightning found its mark//
Right about here, I'm also noticing that you've repeated "debris" and "incessant" within a few short paragraphs of each other. The more unusual a word is, the less you can get away with repeating it. And what makes them think they'd get struck by lightning? They're next to a bunch of buildings... and headed toward an isolated tree.

>a flash that would have rivaled the sun itself//
The light and heat are generally more intense than the sun...

>water-logged//
waterlogged

>payment for its untimely destruction. Rainbow paid//
Watch that word repetition again.

>Taking a gulp of acrid air//
Your sentence structure is getting in a rut. Every sentence in this paragraph starts with a participle, and two of them tack another on the end. Also note that participles imply concurrent action, and you've got some events in these that wouldn't logically happen simultaneously.

>trapped as she was//
Neither one of them can break that window?

>Seeing the confused look on Rainbow's face//
Watch that perspective again.

>Still, her mind tore at itself, squeezing everything it had into the slowly growing magenta orb at the tip of her horn.//
Yeah, maybe you ought to read the section on head hopping at the top of this thread.

>the hardened glass proving as resilient against her repeated blows as it normally did against the elements//
Consider how well Dash did against the bell-ring test in "Fall Weather Friends." And how she dive-bombed Applejack's old barn into oblivion. I don't buy that a simple window is giving her this much trouble.

>again when Twilight's face again//
More repetition.

>WHY HER, WHY... HY... HY...//
This is really over the top. Effective sad stories usually play more off subtlety than melodrama. Pull it back some.

>the pony that saved her life - and in doing so, captured her heart//
That's not exactly a healthy attitude...

>somewhat jagged scar about an inch long//
And she doesn't remember this at all? Twilight's going to great lengths to infodump it to her as well. This is crossing the line from natural conversation to gratuitous exposition.

>until you came to visit me in the hospital//
If she waited that long to get stitches, they're not going to do her much good.

>still budding//
Yet another term that needs to be hyphenated. I've skipped over quite a few. But they're living together, and you'd still refer to it as budding?

>ghost as it wreaked havoc on Rainbow's mind, twisting her heroism into increasingly ghastly//
More repetition.

The two biggest issues in my mind are the telly language and the logical inconsistencies in the plot. I realize the latter can be justified through dream logic, but at that point, the reader doesn't know it's a dream, and you obviously don't want to let on that it is in order to relieve that disbelief. So you're left with quite a few situations that don't make sense, and you can't have the reader carrying that through thousands of words before it gets explained.

There was also quite a bit of repetition of words, phrases, and sentence structures. One in particular I want to touch on is your use of "to be" verbs. Here is what I counted in chapter 2 alone: was/wasn't - 65, were/weren't - 14, is/isn't - 4, be/been/being - 16. There will be others hidden in contractions, too, but there are 99 already. That's not awful for this word count—roughly one every 3 or 3.5 sentences—but it could stand to be spruced up. These are very boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what is. Look to use more active verbs.

You also have a really abbreviated conflict at the end, which never gets resolved. Twilight attempts to help Dash, and while it's not necessary to take us all the way through to complete healing, but we're barely introduced to the mechanism for even addressing the conflict when the story ends, and without any indication as to how effective it is.
>> No. 129728
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Well, that synopsis leaves a lot to be desired. It tells me absolutely nothing. I honestly get more from the title.

>Before Fluttershy could say a word, she was grabbed by the tail and pulled into a nearby alleyway.//
>a stallion walked by, did a double take, then with only a brief sentence of explanation, started dragging her off//
These are seemingly contradictory.

>average sized//
Hyphenate your compound descriptors.

>Shocked, and more than a little nervous//
Yow. Get me to figure this out from how she looks and acts. Don't just tell me. You should read the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>His expression softened, then said//
His expression spoke?

>(!)//
Don't do that.

>Think about others, next time//
You have quite a few unnecessary commas. This one, for instance.

>He turned back to the alley entrance and stood guard.//
You ought to break up these paragraphs. You have five disjoint pieces of speech in this one, and it gets a bit cumbersome to have more than two or three. If you really have that much action to put between the dialogue, that action is probably important enough to warrant a bit more focus than getting lost in the middle of a paragraph.

>Keep your head in the game.//
This long exposition via heard-but-not-heard monologue comes across as pretty clumsy. These aren't things he'd reasonably say out loud. Do you normally go around admitting you find someone attractive, then speculating on their gender, all while within their earshot? There are better ways to get across what he's thinking than this.

>(it came with the apartment. Ah, the fridge, not the carrots. Those he bought)//
Enough with the parentheticals already. I was letting them slide, even though they don't work too well outside of a first-person narrator, but you're bombarding me with them now. Any time you do something that calls attention to the writing itself in an abstract sense, that's a bad thing.

>And no, he didn't name her, so shut up//
Before, he'd seemingly addressed "you" to these unspecified hatchlings, but here, he's pretty clearly speaking to the reader. Do not do this lightly. First, you haven't kept up a narration that will do so throughout the story, so it feels out if place. Second, by involving me, you've opened a can of worms. I need a reason to be there as much as any of the other characters do. So why does he want we to hear this story? Why do I want to listen? Under what circumstances is he telling it?

>expected. He'd expected//
Watch the repetition.

>your highness//
Capitalize the honorific.

>'Everypony', so why can't we have 'Everybuggy'//
In this usage, they don't need to be capitalized.

>and chose not to//
She's being awfully trusting here. He already said why he wouldn't want Chrysalis to have it, but he could have plenty of other motives regarding it. And that's assuming they can even trust him. Why is Twilight taking everything he says at face value?

>Cricket smiled, and said//
Also see the section up top about comma use with conjunctions.

>line....//
Four dots in an ellipsis, and you're using an awful lot of them.

>that proclaimed him to be a (probationary) citizen of Equestria//
Okay, so we're apparently going to skip all the stuff about what makes him trustworthy and how much this means to him. That's kind of the only conflict you had going, and you've completely disarmed it.

>or if he needed to do so as a form of self-defense//
And who gets to judge what is justified? All of the use of this ability by any changeling ever could be argued as self-defense.

>Stupid, Fluttershy, now you've gone and hurt his feelings...//
You'd done a good job previously of keeping each chapter within a single character's perspective. What little subjective flavor you'd used in this one placed it in Twilight's head, but now you're in Fluttershy's. Is the shift necessary? Could you instead narrate one of their parts as perceived by someone else instead of from their viewpoint? Have a look at the section on head hopping at the top of this thread for a rationale.

>Rather than being offended, Fluttershy was surprised to see he was blushing//
Participial phrases can often be misplaced modifiers. Your leading one seems to describe Fluttershy, but that's not your intent.

>His cheeks turned a bright blue when he blushed//
Why? Insect blood isn't blue, at least not that I've ever seen.

>she felt twinge of//
Missing word.

>It contained everything he felt he'd need//
And now you're in Mole's perspective. You really need to give this some thought. But also note that you were in Fluttershy's point of view earlier in the same paragraph, which is a big no-no.

>She was such a cute little thing, she wondered how she and Angel Bunny would get along//
Comma splice. And who is doing the wondering here? I can't tell if you mean Fluttershy or Mole's bunny.

>it was Commander Mole Cricket//
And you've never indicated that Fluttershy knows this about him.

>S-Sorry//
Unless it's a proper noun, only capitalize the first part of a stutter.

>NOW, DROP AND GIVE ME FIFTY!!!//
Italics are preferred for emphasis, and one exclamation mark is plenty.

>A great many things happened at once//
Yes you just got through using that conceit. It feels repetitive to say it again.

Doesn't seem like a long list of problems, but unfortunately, what's wrong here aren't things that will take a quick fix. First, the emotions are conveyed almost exclusively through telling. The perspective hops around in the last chapter, and there are a few plot problems.

On a specific note about word repetition, you use an awful lot of "to be" verbs. I counted over 70 in your longest chapter alone, which is a rate of about one every other sentence. These are boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what is. You should be choosing more active verbs.

Dash is suddenly going to obey a perceived enemy just because he has an authoritative voice? There's absurdity for the sake of comedy, and then there are things that just plain don't make sense. You're also pretty weak on the conflict. There's barely any tension here. Everything just proceeds smoothly on to a nice, happy resolution. You have a minor one in Mole trying to get citizenship, but 1) it's not something he's been working for, 2) he just has it dropped in his lap, 3) there are never any obstacles in his path, and 4) the big moment happens off-screen. A story needs something to drive it forward, and that something is usually conflict of character growth. For the former, what does he want, what is he willing to do to get it, what bad thing will happen if he doesn't? For the latter, what new thing do we learn about a character, and how does he change as a result? It's a nice series of scenes, and it's clever how you used Fluttershy's fangs, but there's not a story arc here.
>> No. 129729
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>A lifetime of strict regiments//
While this could possibly mean something as written, I have to think you meant "regimens."

>that rivaled that of Canterlot's Royal Guard; a template for order and leadership//
Misused semicolon. There's no independent clause after it.

>100%//
Write out numbers this short.

Story:
>Manual labor, management, engineering;//
There you go with the semicolon again. A colon or dash would work here.

>having barely discovered what ‘stage-fright’ was in her late twenties.//
Stage fright. And I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

>17//
Write out the numbers.

>wanted to flat out jump her bones//
And given how many of these you imply there are, she's still never been asked on a date? And given her personality, as you've established it, why doesn't she ask someone else? She's a take-charge type, so I'm not getting why it isn't a viable option.

>being been//
Typo.

>But at the hooves of Rainbow ‘Professionalism’ Dash, Harshwhinny tasted only defeat.//
This is a completed action in the story's past, so use past perfect tense (had tasted). And finally we're getting to something remotely to do with the story's plot. That was a big wall of exposition to have to wade through so far. There are more elegant ways to work it into the narration. The readers are here to see things happen. Get to them already.

>her looked forward//
Typo.

>nd thus//
Typo.

>“Yoo-hoo!”//
And now, roughly 40% of the way into the story, something actually happens. We start out with a lengthy expository section that defines her character, then we get some action, but it's all narrated. We don't see her interact with any of it, and even the little bits of dialogue are alluded to instead of presented. That's not how to engage a reader.

>Harshwhinny grit her teeth//
Gritted.

>completely forgetting how much she hated lemons//
Given that this happens after she eats the first one, wouldn't it be a good idea to mention it then and give some explanation as to why she does it?

>business mare//
That would be one word, as with the human equivalent.

>stayed silent//
Missing a conjunction here? It's a possible stylistic choice but you haven't been using it so far, so this sticks out as being an oversight.

>wouldn’t'//
Extraneous punctuation.

>counter top//
One word.

>Miss Dash!//
The standard is to italicize a ? or ! that's on an italicized word.

>I—“//
Smart quotes break sometimes, and dashes are one of the usual culprits. These quotes are backward.

>‘cause//
And leading apostrophes would be the other common thing that breaks them.

>squad of empty glassed//
Typo.

>…//
This may cut it as video game dialogue, but not here.

First, watch your semicolon usage. You didn't attempt many, but every single one of them was wrong.

I was hoping for some depth to the romance, but this is really nothing more than a fling. You haven't made a stab at showing that Harshwhinny has any actual feelings for Dash. She's just looking for a fling, and going for something that has no emotional investment, even if that investment isn't in Dash herself, leaves everything feeling shallow. That can work if you're going for the laughs, but this isn't a comedy.

She thinks of Dash with disdain, but no more than those coworkers whom she used on occasion. And she lamented never being asked on a date, and this situation hasn't changed that. Sure, Dash asked her to dance, but Harshwhinny is the one being forward at the end, so it hasn't alleviated that tension, either. So I'm left wondering exactly what conflict you were trying to set up and how it's resolved. Harshwhinny's situation doesn't seem any different than it was before, except that she's taken up with someone she normally wouldn't have. But if that's improved her self-esteem or her life in any way, I can't tell.

Coupling that with the hefty starting exposition and the subsequent narrative-only beginning of the action, and it just doesn't come across as very engaging.

Last edited at Thu, Feb 13th, 2014 22:48

>> No. 129733
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>Chiselle loves her job as a sculptress and it provides her with some income.//
Have a look at the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>she cannot sustain herself on her art alone and often take on side jobs to make ends meet//
Subject/verb agreement.

>Will all of her dreams come true, or will she decide it's too much?//
Rhetorical questions are pretty cliched and unproductive in a synopsis.

Story:
>‘Who has time to brush their mane a hundred times, every day?’//
Single quotes or italics. You don't need both.

>The pony//
I'm not sure yet how much of a problem this is going to be, but you're skirting Lavender Unicorn Syndrome here. There's also a section up top about this. As LUS goes, this is an incredibly boring and generic descriptor to use. Pronouns and names are your friends.

>“Who could that be? I don’t open up for another hour,”//
She could just as easily wonder this in the narration. Having characters talk to themselves in unrealistic ways is a quick method for hurting characterization.

>The unicorn opened the door to find a tall, tan-colored earth pony with dark red mane wearing a blue suit and hat.//
Okay, personal opinion time. This is not at all a reason for rejection. I know that the color schemes make physical appearance more interesting than it might be for a human character, and many readers in the fandom like seeing these descriptions for every new character, but I'd urge you to consider whether any of it is really relevant. If there's something about his appearance that becomes important at some point or gives us some insight into his character, that's fine, but if I forget every one of these details, is it going to make any difference at all? Consider how often we get very basic descriptions of characters in mainstream /classic literature, or sometimes no description at all.

>n’//
'n'

>Drumstick//
Maybe you're saying something about his character by doing this. We'll see, but my first impression is that it's odd for him not to simply sign it "Dad."

>her mouth formed a huge grin as she happily skipped back into the kitchen//
The "happily" is a pretty telly word choice, but you don't even need it here. We already get her mood from the grin and the skipping.

>She placed the telegram onto the kitchen’s counter, suddenly she started giggling and skipped in place.//
Comma splice. And more skipping already? Unless you do something to acknowledge that it's repeated or use it in some thematic sense, this feels like an oversight.

>The young girl enjoyed French toast and coffee as she read the morning paper.//
After being so happy, this paragraph describes nothing but a daily routine. She sure doesn't sound like she's any happier than normal.

>two section//
Typo.

>The final piece of the studio laid in a cabinet//
Lay/lie confusion.

>He was wearing a safety vest and hard hat which complimented his gruff face.//
Compliment/complement confusion. Unless you mean his clothes had nice things to say...

>Hello Digger//
Missing comma for direct address.

>dad//
When using "Dad" in place of his name, capitalize it.

>“Welcome to Chip Off The Block!” Chiselle cheerfully sang to a white stallion that just entered. “Yes, yes, I’m here to place an order,” The earth pony replied in a haughty accent as he adjusted his purple bowtie//
You've got two speakers in the same paragraph, a capitalization error for the dialogue tag on the second one, and you're missing the period at the end of the paragraph. And it's "bow tie."

>Pegasus//
You aren't capitalizing the other races, so this would refer specifically to the Greek mythological figure.

>‘til//
Smart quotes get leading apostrophes wrong. This one's backward.

>Chiselle looked away and blushed, “Well//
You can't just attach any action to speech with a comma. It has to be a speaking action.

>the blocks marble//
Missing word.

>The black mane unicorn//
black-maned

>one of the large block//
Typo.

>till//
You spelled this as 'til earlier. Be consistent.

>but-//
Please use a proper dash.

>“Good, I was wondering if you could cover the leading edge of the wings in gold foil.”//
This is the ninth straight paragraph of nothing but speech. There's also an entry on talking heads at the top of this thread that you should read.

>storefronts’//
Misplaced apostrophe. There's only one storefront.

>buttoned up shirt//
I wonder if you meant button-up?

>face. “Rut,”//
Extraneous space.

>The Pegasi sighed//
pegasus

>T-Thank//
Consider what sound would actually be repeated. Th-thank.

>Her left green eye twitched//
"Green" is an unnecessary detail here. What difference does it make?

>He backed away and back//
Watch the word repetition. And I have to say you've lost my sympathy for Chiselle here. Getting what she's earned is one thing, but shaking this guy down for an inflated price? Seems more like mafia than someone I'd care about.

>“Right, I’ll see you around,” the red mare finished.//
Missing line break.

>Chiselle sat down a small shaping tool//
Set/sat confusion.

>His cutie mark, two drumsticks//
Missing comma on the other side of the appositive.

>and put some of it in front of his young daughter along with a cup of coffee//
He already put the coffee in front of her...

>Say, have you found out what she does for a living yet.//
It's a question isn't it? And what's with the teaser line? What does it have to do with the story?

The mechanical issues are a mixed bag. The biggest consistent thing is comma problems, both in splices and with conjunctions. But the bigger things are stylistic.

You have a bad case of Lavender Unicorn Syndrome. I won't rehash the explanation I referred you to of why this is a bad thing, but suffice it to say you're constantly bombarding me with information I already know, like her color, size, and race. Next is the sentence structures. You go through long stretches where almost every sentence starts with the subject, is about the same length, and has a similar inflection. That contributes to giving the prose a plodding feel. Finally, the whole story is very... factual. It focuses almost exclusively on relating event after event at the expense of communicating the emotions involved. If all I get is what happened, it reads like a history textbook. Including how the characters feel about those events is what makes it a story. But you have to be careful about it. I only saw a couple of places where you were being telly, but that's more a function of passing up most of the opportunities to give me emotional context than managing to avoid that particular pitfall. So before you go about adding all that in and end up doing it the wrong way, you should also read the section at the top of this thread on show versus tell.

Last edited at Sun, Feb 16th, 2014 11:28

>> No. 129746
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>She grit her teeth//
The only accepted past tense is "gritted."

>The pink pony's sharp voice soon rang out again, shattering the hapless unicorn's hopes of having found some peace and quiet at last.//
Watch the Lavender Unicorn Syndrome. There's an explanation of the rationale behind avoiding it at the top of this thread. Suffice it to say you only have two characters, so you don't need to resort to such things to keep them straight.

>Her joints burned as her limbs strained against the metal handle, moving it up and down constantly, thus generating their cart's laughable propulsion on the tracks.//
This is just... odd. "Laughable" propulsion? I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. And this whole paragraph comes across as rather sterile. I'm getting a very factual account of what happens to Rarity, but not much of how she feels about it.

>The moment the cart came to a full stop, the fashionista collapsed onto the metal handle, panting heavily.//
I've noticed you do this with quite a few of your participles already. These phrases like to modify the nearest prior object, unless they start the clause. By default, "panting heavily" wants to describe "handle," because of their proximity. I can figure out what you meant to say, but there's still a little speed bump. And if you're not careful with these, you'll eventually write something that's ambiguous or outright misleading.

>They would have to spend the night out here.//
You blast through these first two scenes rather quickly. In conjunction with my previous comment about needing to see more emotion from the character, there's not that much right here about how uncomfortable she is. Make me feel it with her, I'll be that much more sympathetic with her.

>almost pitch black due to the lack of any lighting//
That's pretty redundant. Isn't that normally the default cause of pitch blackness?

>"Pinkie!" she cried, "Darling, what on Earth are you doing?"//
Dialogue punctuation/capitalization. There's a section at the top of the thread for this, too. And don't capitalize "earth" in this context. It means our planet. For that matter most fanfic writers use something like "what in Equestria."

>She did a couple of flips in the air and landed perfectly on all four of her hooves, then spun around to face her friend, beaming proudly.//
And it's happened. Who's beaming proudly? It's completely ambiguous. Grammatically, speaking, Rarity is, but you seem to be going for Pinkie.

>While she was busy rubbing her eyes, the hyperactive filly//
This is also ambiguous. It sounds like Pinkie's rubbing her eyes, but I bet you mean Rarity.

>She could laugh at, and even//
Unnecessary comma.

>"Oh, for Celestia's sake, Pinkie Pie! If you insist on letting your hair down, at least wait until we get out of all this dust! Besides, straight hair isn't exactly in right now. If you'd just listen to me for once, you could--"
Thoughts are indicated either by your choice of dialogue tag or italics (or in some circles, use of singles quotes). If you're italicizing them, don't use the quotes.

>In the faint illumination, she could just barely make out the silhouette of her friend resting on her side//
Odd to mention this detail now, since she had no apparent difficulty in seeing that Pinkie's mane had gone straight.

>lay her head back down//
Lay/lie confusion.

>Her eyes widened at that.//
You've done this a few times, too. When you use "this" or "that" to refer to a broad swath of narration, it's awfully self-aware of the story. You could rephrase this or narrow the scope of the antecedent by just sticking an appropriate noun after it.

>"When was the last time that you did?"//
You're on the edge of being talking heads here. Any action in between the speech is minimal. I have a section on that up top as well.

>thud//
It's a valid word. Just use it normally. Don't put sounds effects in narration.

>my folks faces//
Missing apostrophe.

>She was about to try calming her down when the unicorn suddenly collapsed onto the dirt, her whole body shaking as she sobbed uncontrollably.//
This is really over the top. If you want to get across intense emotions, less is often more. If you go too melodramatic, you lose the feeling of authenticity that's key to a sad story.

>ruined makeup//
So the long, sweaty day and the partial night of sleeping on the ground hadn't done that already?

>messed up//
Hyphenate your compound descriptors.

>She trailed off//
It's not necessary to tell me this when I can already see it from the punctuation.

>hum the chords//
How does one hum a chord?

>Dumb rock!//
Textual effects like this aren't usually a good idea. There's not really an artistic effect here—it's more a lazy way to avoid describing how she says it.

>Her mane and tail have inflated back to their usual poofiness//
Why the switch to present tense?

>"Tell me, now where will you go?
>How long should you be alone?
>Can't you see the brightness of our lives?
>Look up and reach for the sky!"//
These are pretty disjoint thoughts to be forming a coherent song. Really, this puts me in the mind of something from anime.

The only consistent mechanical thing I saw was punctuation and capitalization of thoughts and dialogue. Stylistically, you were pushing it on the talking heads and Lavender Unicorn Syndrome quite a bit.

Watch the "to be" verbs as well. They're inherently boring. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what is. Of the easier-to-find forms, you had 103, which is just a little shy of one every 3 sentences or so. That's not horrible, but you should probably concentrate a little more on choosing active verbs.

You got better once you made it into the main conflict of the story, but at least for Rarity, what really puts her in a tough place to start with is that she's making agonizingly little progress through a harsh environment. Yet that opening part of the story was very short on emotion. I need to see her getting desperate, frustrated, overwhelmed, and what have you. That's what sets up everything that follows. And as for what follows... dial it back a bit. You're making a little too much of an obvious grab for the heartstrings.

While I thought your reasoning through how Rarity would have the least to offer in this situation of all of them, I do have to say that this is a pretty common setup for stories we see: one character has an existential crisis, another comforts her and (sometimes) reveals a crisis of her own, and they both have a rather rapid and dramatic reversal of attitude. You have to do something to make your story stand out from the crowd, and while general quality of writing can to some degree, an original angle would really help you in this regard. Getting at the emotion behind it would, too, since it'd flesh out the character motivations. Rarity's part, for instance is rather spurred by very recent events to have such a deep-seated importance to her. Has she ever had these feelings of inadequacy before? Is this really a spur-of-the-moment thing, or has it been brewing for some time? And why are things just now coming to a head for Pinkie? She's been keeping this a secret... but doesn't make much of an effort to hide it from Rarity. She's upset about Applejack breaking a Pinkie Promise... but not Twilight. Why has she never brought it up with her friends before? These aren't the angles you have to take—I'm just brainstorming a bit here to get you thinking about what you can do to distinguish your story from the masses.
>> No. 129750
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>The pony prisoner shivered, and coughed haggardly.//
Have a look at the information on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread. Additionally, it's a little late to be adding in a detail like "haggardly." You've already given me a mental image of what this place looks like and what the character is doing, and now you're re-characterizing that. If you want her to look haggard, make that clear from the beginning.

>Ice coated the place, making the whole area colored in various shades of blue and grey//
Phrasing's a little off. Why not just "coloring the whole are in various shaded"? It's more direct and active that way.

>ice and crystal-encrusted//
Hyphenate the whole thing.

>Her heart filled with pure elation. For the first time in a long time, she felt joy.//
This has far less impact than it would if you got me to deduce from her appearance and actions how she felt. Have a look at the section on show versus tell, too.

>It’s ethereal mass//
It's/its confusion.

>The prisoner’s heart lurched.//
Scroll so that this line is at the bottom of your screen. Then look back up at the first word of each paragraph. I think you'll see a pattern. Unintentional patterns are a bad thing. Many intentional ones are too, but at least the author was thinking about them. You have to be conscious of your sentence structures so you don't get into a rut.

>As she crumpled to the ground, the ice creeped up her legs, threatening to engulf her.//
And along those lines, you also use quite a few participles, and besides being repetitive, they come with a few dangers of their own. A number of yours have been misplaced modifiers. Participles like to modify the nearest prior object, so grammatically speaking, her legs are threatening to engulf her. It's not hard to figure out what you meant here, but you have to be careful, or you'll eventually write something that's ambiguous or outright misleading. Also, it's "crept."

>Celestia grew even more worried//
More telling. Let me see what this looks like. If I figure it out, it's my conclusion, and you've gotten me invested in the story. If you tell me, it's a cold fact.

That song... I suppose lullabies can be very irregular, but this has no consistent rhythm. And what kind of lullaby has a phrase like "keep evil at bay"?

>When have our worst nightmares ever really come true?//
This is entirely immersion-breaking. You haven't had a narrator that will address the reader, so don't introduce one now. Rhetorical questions in an objective viewpoint are also a bad idea. For that matter, the perspective is wavering here. The opening scene was in Luna's head, but the second one had been in Celestia's viewpoint until the last couple paragraphs, which went to Luna for a brief stay before pulling back to omniscient. You should read the section on head hopping to see why changes in perspective have to be carefully considered.

>Pain was all she felt.//
What little emotional context I'm getting in this scene is telly. You're focusing on the physical sensations. How does she feel about this?

>The gleaming white unicorn horn of the princess was lit up in a glorious way.//
There isn't any need for the passive voice here. Keep it active. And when you use a word like "glorious," you have to be aware what you're saying. Celestia's your perspective character here, so this is her opinion. Why is she thinking that about her own horn, particularly when so much else is on her mind at the moment? Compare to your earlier description of the room as "beautiful." That's a more reasonable judgment for Celestia to be making, but this one isn't.

>revealing the horrible truth laying outside//
Lay/lie confusion.

>The magenta eyes of the princess//
This is an awkward indirect construct. You used another one earlier to describe her horn. Consider just saying "The princess's magenta eyes." It's much more direct and concise.

I have to say that all of these single-sentence and single-line paragraphs are starting to get grating. It's another effect, like using italics, for making things stand out, and when almost everything stands out, nothing does. And like italics, it gets annoying to read after a while.

>“No... please...” She said in a hushed tone//
Dialogue tag capitalization.

>She was helpless to stop herself from destroying all she loved.//
And like I commented last chapter, only two of the last eighteen paragraphs start with something other than "the" or "she."

>melting into liquid//
That's generally how it works.

>eachother//
Typo.

>The sisters proceeded to tell each other their painful accounts of the visions they had seen, frequently breaking down into tears.//
And this is really the emotional crux of the story: sisters sharing their pain with each other and comforting each other. And you blast through it all in four sentences. And it happens off-screen. I normally save something like this for wrap-up comments, but I'll go ahead and discuss it here. A story needs something to propel it forward. Most often, that's conflict, but character growth can work as well. For conflict, you'd need to define what it is that someone wants, what she's willing to do to get it, and what will happen if she doesn't. Then you resolve the conflict. For character growth, you'd need to reveal something surprising about a character or show her working her way through a difficult situation in a way that we learn something about her, preferably that she's changed as a result. Either way, it's about contrasting before and after. What changed as a result of these events? Presumably how these sisters relate to each other and appreciate each other now. But we don't get to see them as they go through this meeting of the minds or what new attitude they have afterward. I like the story's layout, where we get to see both sisters' visions, but this reads more like a series of scenes, not like a story that communicates some meaning with those scenes. Do you want this story to say something about their relationship, or do you just want to have these few scenes play through without an overall message?

>I have no idea, they couldn’t have wandered far//
Comma splice.

>standing up and hooking his front leg around Cadance’s neck, giving her a peck on the cheek//
It's awkward to chain two participial phrases together like this, and you're missing your end punctuation.

>Ach//
When did Cadence become German? Or Scottish?

>standing near the throne, The large crystal//
Typo.

>Celestia apologized with a smile//
First, the use of "apologized" is redundant with the fact that she explicitly said, "I'm sorry." Second, the majority of your speaking verbs here are unusual ones, which tends to call attention to the writing itself over the story. There's also a section up top about saidisms that explains the rationale.

>The crystal key to unveil it was broken//
Wouldn't it have been more effective to seal the trapdoor or destroy the magic door?

>It was good to have a sister.//
This at least begins to bring some meaning to the story, but it's awfully incomplete and understated to carry much significance. We can already assume she feels this way from her behavior at the end of the the show's second episode. So what's different about this time? There is some head hopping in this chapter, too—you begin in Cadence's head and move to Luna's for just the last few dozen words.

Against my normal format, I'll deal with the plot elements first, since I've already given you the long explanation there. The conflict/character growth is weak here.

On the stylistic front, a lot of the events the characters saw in the door were presented without much emotional context until near the end of each, and what was given was mostly telly. Surely these characters have reactions throughout the scenes they're witnessing. You also have some wandering perspectives. The overabundance of such things as very short paragraphs, participial phrases, and beginning sentence with the subject, particularly to open paragraphs, gets the writing in a rut at times. One recurring thing in particular was the number of "to be" verbs. Of the easiest forms to search, I counted 81. That's getting rather up there for this word count—it's a rate of one about every 2.5 sentences. These are inherently boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. I'd encourage you to choose more active verbs.
>> No. 129754
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>She sat in the middle of her boutique//
I guess this is more a suggestion than an error, but since pronouns work by antecedent, it's usually a good idea to introduce the character more definitely in her first appearance, even if it's something generic like "the mare."

>the design was mesmerizing, the seams were strong, and the minimalistic use of gemstones added the perfect touch//
This illustrates a problem I'm already seeing. Contrast your three verb choices here: was, was, added. Which one do you think is more interesting? You have 8 "to be" verbs in your first 7 sentences. It's impractical to avoid that verb altogether, but it pays to choose active verbs where you can. That's especially important right here at the beginning, where you're trying to capture the reader's interest, but nothing much is happening here.

>audible sigh//
This is a far-overused phrase by inexperienced writers. It's also redundant filler. A sigh is audible by default. You'd only need to clarify if it wasn't.

>Impatience and excitement coursed through her veins//
You need to create a mental picture for these things. Show me what she does and how she looks in such a way that I deduce her impatience and excitement. That's how you get me invested in her character, how you get me to feel that with her instead of just knowing it as an abstract fact.

>Begrudgingly//
Have a look at the discussion of show versus tell at the top of this thread. This is detached from the very mechanical actions that follow. Instead, use her actions to communicate the mood. How would I know she was begrudging if I was in the room watching her?

>someway//
Typo.

>Her friend//
You've already identified her as Fluttershy by this point, so it's really off-putting that you continue referring to her almost exclusively as "her friend."

>that she didn't even know she had//
This is another cliched phrase that inexperienced writers overuse.

>She now felt relaxed, rejuvenated and more than prepared to take on her task once again.//
Show me through how she acts.

>imagining the marvelous gradient gracefully complimenting the fabric//
Compliment/complement confusion. Unless the fabric is saying nice things.

>One week later.//
Surely you can find a more elegant way of working this into the narration. You don't need to wield it like a hammer.

>stiching//
Typo.

>stupid, little//
These are hierarchical adjectives. You don't need the comma.

>She'd many dresses before//
Missing word.

>bolts fabrics and spools of threads//
Missing word and inappropriate plurals.

>began to continue//
These are pretty contradictory.

>ensuring they were perfectly spaced out, yet close enough together to ensure//
Watch the close repetition of words or phrases.

>3//
Spell out numbers this short.

>Once again, a feeling in her gut reminded herself of her lies.//
Reflexive pronouns are used when the same person or thing is the subject.

>she managed to find her voice at this//
Using "this" or "that" to refer to the narration itself is a bad idea. Better to find an appropriate noun to put after it.

>sigh of defeat//
In addition to being telly, these are getting repetitive—you have quite a few of these "sigh of ____" phrasings.

>shuteye//
Shut-eye.

>the white ceiling had filled her vision and she found it most pleasant//
You've done this a few times. Look at the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>as it usually did. It usually went//
Repetitive.

There are some good artistic things going on here, and I appreciate how you ended it. But we'll get to the abstract stuff in a moment. First, the mechanical and stylistic things.

There's a decent amount of telling up front, which is one of the worst places to do that in a story, but it seems to improve toward the end. You use a number of cliches, and the declaration of time skips at the beginning of the last few scenes was rather clumsy. And I can't figure out why you persisted in calling Fluttershy "her friend." That's a very odd manifestation of Lavender Unicorn Syndrome. There was some repetition, but none more so than the plain old verb "to be." Of the few easiest forms to search for, I counted 121. That's immense for this word count, roughly one every other sentence. These are inherently boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. You really need to be choosing more active verbs.

So, to the plot itself... Well, this is obviously a character piece, so it'll live on character growth more than external conflict. You do have one small vehicle present for external conflict, and that's how Fluttershy and Sweetie Belle are being neglected. Yet they don't seem very troubled about it, so it's not played up as such, thus it doesn't trouble me, either. That leaves character growth, so what surprising thing do we learn about a character, how does a character address a challenging situation, and how does a character change as a result of the story's events? Well, there really isn't any of this, either. We already know Rarity's obsessive, so that in and of itself isn't shocking. She doesn't change through the story—she just keeps up this obsessive behavior. Now, a lack of change can be a watershed moment, too, as long as it's the character's choice to remain how she is as a response to a dilemma. But no such dilemma is presented. She just keeps on being the same Rarity she's been throughout the story. There are some other lesser-used methods for portraying character growth, but I won't get into them, since they don't apply here. Bottom line: this was a nice series of scenes, but I wouldn't call it a story. What message does it carry? How does it add to my understanding of a character? This can be a difficult problem to fix, but like I said, you already have a vehicle in place for doing so: Fluttershy and/or Sweetie Belle. If you'd care to delve into how all this is affecting them and what they do about it, then you'd have some real conflict. That's not the only avenue, of course, but give some thought to what you want a reader to take away beyond "Rarity acts like herself, only sometimes more intensely." I will say, though, that you have Rarity's voice down quite well.
>> No. 129756
>>129746

Thank you for the feedback!

I won't argue with most of your observations regarding the technical issues. They seem valid, and since this story was a bit rushed and did not receive nearly enough editing, I will get right on to correcting them.

There are, however, a few points that I must insist on "defending":

1.) The reason the first few scenes are so "short" is because I felt that even the way they are now is a bit too drawn out, and adding any more would just be wasting the reader's time. However, if you believe it wouldn't hurt the story if I added a little more to that part, perhaps focusing on further immersing the reader in Rarity's misery, then I'll work something out...

2.) The "talking heads" thing. If it's okay, I would rather not add very much more than one line or two to offset the total absence of non-verbal details, again because I don't want to pad out the story too much.

3.) Why is Rarity's reaction "over the top"? Or, more importantly: why is "over the top" bad in her case? :D Based on how we've seen her in the show so far, it isn't exactly OOC for her. After all, we're talking about a notorious drama queen who is left stranded in the desert, and is about to be abandoned by her only companion -- not to mention one of her best friends. Needless to say, she doesn't take it very well...

I guess that scene is meant to be cathartic somehow. If you think it ruins the mood, though, then I'll dial it back somewhat.

4.) Regarding the final verse of the song, I imagined that it is an incredibly obvious reference to how the Sonic Rainboom appeared on the sky for them at the lowest point in their lives. That, and, in the context of this story, this song was written as part of somepony's silly-filly dream of becoming a singer, so a couple of "cheesy" lines can be expected... ;)

5.) MY STORY IS UNORIGINAL??? T_T

Okay, okay, just kidding. But seriously: is it that much of a "we've seen all this before?" I'll admit that it's a fairly conventional "sadfic", but I didn't try to take any shortcuts by doing something like "somepony close to me has died" or whatever. This story tries to focus on things that are present in the show, but are never actually pointed out: Rarity is almost always the least "useful" member of the Mane Six during any crisis, usually being relegated to a "damsel in distress" (with the exception of the Diamond Dog episode). Pinkie Pie is the Element of Laughter, and she loves seeing ponies smile and making them smile, but whenever they face a more complex issue than what can be solved by singing and over-the-top partying, her efforts become ineffective at best, detrimental at worst.

Rarity's outburst is the culmination of insecurities that she has kept hidden deep within herself, deep enough that even she wasn't aware of them until her friend decided to abandon her, which she saw as the result of her own incompetence in providing consolation. Yes, it's a "spur of the moment" thing in the sense that her own crisis only comes to surface once she sees just how bad the situation has turned out despite her efforts (up to that point, Pinkie Pie didn't mention wanting to actually leave them). This is the reason why that scene is so "over the top." Again, I didn't want to make the description of it any lengthier because I feared it would just make things drag on, but I wanted to present as excessively as possible just how horrible that moment was for her. Perhaps the way I messed up is that it looks far too similar to her "whining scenes," and I don't point out well enough that she's not overacting this time.

As for Pinkie Pie, the story suggests that beneath her invincible joyful demeanor hides an equally insecure pony, who needed just one more experience of inadequacy to start falling apart. It suggests that she tries her hardest to convince everypony around her that she can be happy no matter what happens, something that she uses to lift their spirits as well, but in truth it's more of a peculiar form of denial. She acts the way she does to convince herself just as much as anypony else. This is the main difference between her and Rarity. Hers is a more passive form of denial.

When Twilight broke her Pinkie Promise, she didn't do it in front of anyone else, nor was it such a big issue compared to how Applejack was planning on running away from them. Also, faking a promise is, in a way, even worse than breaking one. Both are a betrayal of trust, but the former is outright deception, and that's what set Pinkie Pie off. It meant that Applejack had zero faith in her from the very beginning. In the context of this story, her anger once she realized that was only fraction of what she felt. It was at that point she became convinced that nopony would ever ask her to help with their problems, beyond maybe throwing a party or two...

All that said, are the aforementioned concepts unoriginal outright, or simply not presented well enough to make the story distinguishable from others of its kind?

Thank you in advance for your help and attention!
>> No. 129761
>>129756
1) & 2) Don't mistake additional story for padding. Padding is useless verbiage that accomplishes nothing. Adding an emotional context to the opening scenes wouldn't be useless. It would lay the groundwork for why their tempers are running short and how Rarity in particular feels like she's not helping. In fact, even before considering their motivations for acting the way they do, adding emotional context is a good idea anyway. If you're not establishing their mindsets in those opening scenes, then what are they there for? Just to provide the setup? If so, I could already understand what's going on if you started the story where they camped for the night. That would render the early scenes useless and warrant cutting them completely. Make them mean something. For th talking heads, it doesn't take much. Just a little movement here and body language there to remind me these are live conversants.

3) Yes, Rarity goes over the top in canon, but they're in lighthearted comedic moments. Levity's out of place in a serious sad moment, so I can only assume you thought her exaggerated reaction was sad. If you're trying to be funny, I'd say it's causing some mood whiplash. If you're trying to be sad, it's too much. The key word here is authenticity. If you see a real person in pain, they'll more often try to control themselves than let themselves go completely. You're dealing with emotions in a more serious way than canon does, so it takes a more realistic approach.

4) You at least might want to go with a fixed rhythm, but it's a minor part of the story and not really a sticking point.

5) I've personally seen only 1 or 2 other stories that directly dealt with the aftermath of Pinkie and Rarity being left behind on the hoofcar. But in a more generic sense, we see a lot of these scenarios where two characters are alone somewhere and reveal feelings of inadequacy to each other. And of those, the question of whether they're a good enough friend is also a predominant theme. That doesn't preclude the possibility that a good story of that type might come along, but it takes more for one to distinguish itself from the rest. Yes, it's hard to find something that nobody else has done, but it's not so hard to find something that nobody else has done well.

My main issue with Pinkie is that she's awfully willing to talk about her insecurities with Rarity. I she had no problem talking about it, then why would she have done so earlier? She should have already learned her lesson in "Party of One" that if she lets her imagination run wild about others' attitudes toward her, then she'll draw the wrong conclusions.I'd think Rarity would have to do more to drag it out of her. But Rarity barely mentions it, and Pinkie immediately comes clean.
>> No. 129762
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>freshly-mopped//
In two-word phrases, -ly adverbs are the exception to hyphenation.

>(that is, as high as the reclusive pegasus could comfortably manage)//
Minor gripe here, but parentheticals really only work when the narrator is quite intrusive, like when he addresses the reader directly or is a character himself. Fairy tales can also get away with it, since the narrator often takes on affectations in those as well. But if you're going to use a third-person narrator that's not deeply subjective, it feels out of place.

>farmer’s market//
You used "farmers' market" in the synopsis. Be consistent. The plural is more standard. You seem to use the singular throughout the story.

>; yet//
It's pretty redundant to use a conjunction after a semicolon. You might just want to use a period here.

>This time would be different, her resolute expression appeared to declare.//
Now, be very careful with your perspective. It appeared resolute to whom? The narrator? You haven't established him as someone there to witness it. To me? I don't know—you haven't described how this looks. To Fluttershy? Doubtful. Don't toss out judgments when we can't tell whose opinions they are.

>Her right leg carefully bandaged//
I've scanned ahead a bit and don't see how this happened. Did she return home to bandage it? Did she have one with her already and use it right there?

>Her right leg carefully bandaged, Fluttershy took a few tentative steps into the bustling market square, her yellow hooves making muted clacking sounds on the flagstone pavement.//
And back to this sentence. It can get clunky to have multiples of certain constructs in a sentence. You have <absolute phrase>, <main clause>, <absolute phrase>. And it makes the repetition stick out even more that both absolute phrases begin "her <body part>."

>Spotting the familiar face of the orange-maned mare at the carrot stand, she briefly glanced down at the ground, before reluctantly contorting her own face into an exaggerated grimace as she remembered her earlier resolution.//
You might want to break this into two sentences. There's a lot going on, and each action deserves more focus than all getting crammed together. Also note that participles imply concurrent action, so you're saying she spots Carrot Top (why don't you just go ahead and name her?) at the same time she looks at the ground, which doesn't quite make sense.

>whose resolve was somewhat stronger when it came to negotiating for the price of produce//
Kind of goes without saying, doesn't it? Anyone who's familiar with the episode you're playing off of will already know this.

>f-//
Please use a proper dash.

>Uh-oh//
What is this? You haven't been using a subjective viewpoint, and the narrator isn't a character. Did you mean for this to be Fluttershy's thought?

>with-//
Again, use a proper dash. What cuts her off, though? There's nothing in the narration. Is it Carrot Top's speech that does so? Then don't use the intervening narration. After a cutoff, the very next thing needs to be what interrupts, or else the narrator is contradicting the cutoff by having time to put something else in there.

>an appalled expression on his face//
It'll mean more if you let me see it. If I were standing there, what would I notice about how he looks and acts that would lead me to conclude he was appalled?

>The noise//
Missing a paragraph break.

>one by one//
Set this off with commas.

>as she discovered she had unwittingly become the center of attention again//
This is just repeating information you've already given me.

>>confused words to each other in the heat of the moment, before hundreds of ponies, spurred on by the insistent words//
Watch the repetition of phrasing here.

>appeared to be growing more and more agitated//
How so? You might want to read the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>he crowd of ponies, who had gone from generally indifferent to mildly displeased to vaguely enraged in a matter of seconds//
I haven't seen enraged yet, and you're talking about it as if it's already happened.

>all at once feeling shocked and guilty and frightened//
Yeah, this is getting quite telly.

>Hiding under an upturned apple cart, tears began to form in her eyes//
You have a classic dangling participle here. "Hiding..." is trying to describe Fluttershy, but she never appears in the clause. This says her tears are hiding.

I'm noticing that you use a lot of "as" clauses, particularly here at the end of the chapter. There are 6 of them in the last three long paragraphs alone, plus two other uses of the word in different senses. Repetition like that gets your writing in a rut and draws attention away from the story. You're also pretty reliant of participial phrases. Just be aware of your tendencies so you can try to avoid them.

>innocent fruits and vegetables crushed and trampled underhoof among the casualties of the coming storm//
And yet you're not going to mention the poor lemon merchant? He likely wasn't the only one, either, which is pretty grim. I mean, there's funny, but that was downright violent.

>marketgoers//
You hyphenated this term in the previous chapter.

>unpleasantries -- and carrots -- that//
Such is the danger of using a double hyphen in place of a dash: on my browser, there's a line break between the hyphens of the first pair.

>perhaps that was the right thing to do. Her heart sank at this thought.//
You're kind of giving me perspective whiplash here. The first part is fairly subjective, but the following is pretty suddenly objective, particularly in that the word choice of "this thought" really places the sentence as external to her.

>day off that day//
Repetitive

>they all currently occupied the local donut shop on the exact opposite side of town//
Surely it wouldn't take long for a pegasus to zip over there and tell them...

>work -- after//
Spacing

>fruit-stand-wall//
That last hyphen shouldn't be there.

>originally conceived the idea to construct the barrier in the first place//
"Originally" and "in the first place" are redundant here.

>She shrunk back a few inches upon spotting the edge of the barricade frontier constructed by the other rioters, observing their indignant expressions and industrious attitude.//
Another danger with the number of participles you use: they are commonly misplaced modifiers. By proximity, "observing..." seems to describes the rioters, but that's not what you mean, and it kicks me out of the story when I have to stop and figure that out.

>who was wearing a pumpkin shell as a helmet which slightly impeded his vision//
You really have the habit of cramming an awful lot into sentences. Besides causing them to lose focus, it also makes for extended asides like this one, which doesn't provide any vital information and serve more as stumbling blocks. This one's badly in need of some commas, too. Case in point: If you look over this sentence, it contains no less than four separate "which" clauses.

>and flew around the plaza assigning duties to the assembled ponies, forming haphazard ranks out of the ragtag band of rebels//
And like the time I noted your multiple absolute phrases in a sentence, here you have participles in series, which also adds to confusion as to what they describe. Are they nested? I.e., who's forming ranks, the pegasi or the assembled ponies?

>Mr. What’s-his-name//
All those words would be capitalized.

>began approaching her//
Besides just being a weak and overused action in general, this is the second "begin" in this paragraph.

>miss//
Since he's trying to use that as part of her name, capitalize it.

One further note on repeated words: do a Ctrl-f for "was." You didn't use it too awfully much, but you use it in clusters at times, where it gets locally repetitive.

Well, the biggest definitive problems I can cite are the telly language at some inappropriate times, the very burdensome and over-long sentences that pop up frequently, and the repetitive structures of so many participles and "as" clauses, along with their attendant problems of ambiguity and synchronization.

In the humor department, it certainly had its moments. The "don't trot on me" was a nice touch. But I can't help feeling like you keep beating the same few gags over and over again. That Fluttershy's afraid to come out, that Ace is mentally reviewing his manifesto, and repeated scenes of ponies building up barricades and tearing apart stalls. Each one was funny at first, but then just dragged on past its welcome, only to show up again. Now, humor is definitely a subjective thing, and I didn't find this stupid—it's possible it just doesn't mesh with my sense of humor and readers would find it very funny. As such, if you care to resubmit, I'll have someone else judge it to get a different set of eyes, but I'd encourage you to consider the sheer number of recycled jokes. You might also want to have another chapter or two done, or maybe link a brief outline, so we can tell where the story might be going.

I can accept some level of comic absurdity, too, but it feels like a stretch that this is really the thing that'll set off Ace. And as to the specific infraction he saw, he hasn't caught anyone else doing it, yet he's going to ascribe this behavior to every seller in the market and, by extension, the government? It's a little hard to get behind his reasoning, and it'd help if he had a motivation that I could understand and maybe even sympathize with.
>> No. 129767
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Distraught and humiliated, she slammed her Manehattanite apartment door, making it undeniably clear that she wished to be left alone.//
This is pretty telly language, which isn't a good idea right at the beginning of the story, where you want to grab the reader's interest and connect him to the character. Take a look at the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>Yet,//
It's not often that commas after conjunctions are correctly used. This one is not.

>Bang! Bang! Bang!//
Sound effects in narration are a bad idea. Better to describe the sound. It's also preferred to use italics and description to communicate emphasis and intensity. Bold and all caps aren't.

>The now-aggravated mare//
More telling. I have nothing to go on but your word to understand her mood, so it's pretty cold and distant.

>the sooner see what they want//
Missing word.

>She plastering her fake, signature business-smile on her face//
Verb form.

>T-Take this.//
Only capitalize the first part of a stutter, unless it's a proper noun.

>that’s nice to hear but I still have no idea what it entails//
Also see the section on coma use with conjunctions.

>he trailed off as his pupils shrank, inhaling and exhaling as he tried to calm himself.//
You don't need to tell me he's trailing off, since I can already tell from the punctuation. Beware what's implied when you use participles, too. For one, they're commonly misplaced modifiers. By proximity, you're saying his pupils inhaled and exhaled. I can sort it out with a bit of logic, but if you're not careful, you'll write something that's ambiguous or misleading. The other problem is that both participles and "as" clauses synchronize actions, and it's unlikely you meant his pupils shrank at the same time he tried to calm himself. It probably happened in series, not parallel, as they imply opposite moods. Finally, what's special about the "inhaling and exhaling"? They're not elaborated on at all, so I don't know how it's different from default breathing, which of course he'd have to do to live.

>His composure slipped a little//
How so? Let me see it.

>It appears that Stargazer has become… unstable because of it.//
This is a common mistake people make in writing letters in fanfiction. Who would actually put the ellipsis in there. I get tha it's a dramatic pause, but that's a speech affectation. What reason would she have for putting a dramatic pause in the letter, when it's meant to be purely informative. It just doesn't come across as authentic.//

>Elements//
You didn't capitalize this earlier in Stargazer's speech. Be consistent.

>absent-mindedly//
absentmindedly

>She quickly averted her gaze from the book as unbidden thoughts of Stargazer's condition resurfaced.//
And she's sweeping aside his concerns very quickly. As much as he was afraid of it, wouldn't it take more consideration for her to think of using it?

>Like a wolf in sheep’s clothing, the book had lured in a new puppet to play with, using her very mind to lead her into its jaws. As the sun set and the shadows grew longer, a sinister grin spread across the unicorn’s face.//
You've been keeping a narration in Rarity's perspective so far, so it's a bit odd to have the narrator pull back to an omniscient point of view here for just the last few sentences of the scene. There are times that such a thing works, especially if you're creating a storybook feel by doing this and the beginning and ending of scenes, but you didn't start the story that way, so it just feels out of place.

>Rarity stood with another unicorn fashionista//
Given that Rarity's trying to rewrite something that happened to her, why is this scene shown from someone else's perspective?

>he made himself//
This is rendered in the same tense as when he trotted on stage, but he's presumably not still up there making it. So you need past perfect tense to show a completed action in the story's past: had made.

>Hoster was his name; famous for creating the first fashion convention in Manehattan.//
Misused semicolon. There isn't an independent clause anywhere after it.

>silencing the accursed sound. Moments after the silence//
Watch the close repetition of words.

>Him.//
Missing your closing quotation marks.

>And you, trying to destroy me?” it chuckled, “do you really think he didn’t already try that himself?”//
It already chuckled earlier in the paragraph. And the comma after "chuckled" is trying to make the two parts of the quote a single sentence, but you can't do that since you already had end punctuation on the first part.

>desperate//
If it was that desperate, why did it take them two days to get there?

>The walls//
Missing a line break.

>Twilight, why didn’t you do something about that moron? He was totally unprofessional!//
Do what? What sway does Twilight have over hotel employees?

>“Twilight—”//
There's a lot of dialogue around here that's unattributed, and when some of it doesn't even have a character action with it, it gets difficult to tell who's speaking.

>side-effect//
That term doesn't use a hyphen.

>Corruption.//
Wait. How does she know this? It didn't say so in Rarity's letter, so did she send another one later? And if so, she knew a lot more about what she was doing when she used the book, which seriously mars her innocence. If not, then Twilight must have researched the book, but you don't mention her doing that, and Rarity told her very little to go on. How did she manage to figure it out? And when Rarity wrote that letter, she was awfully convinced of the book's danger to claim ignorance when she gave into temptation.

>A stallion in a black suit complimented Rarity on her dress.//
Well, yes, this rehashes what he said. That's unnecessary.

>Make yourself at home; my butler will retrieve anything you require.//
Comma splice. And nobody;s surprised o see her well-dressed and with a butler in a run-down hotel?

>“Fight it! You can do it!//
Missing quotation marks.

>encasing Rarity’s form//
You'll normally set off participial phrases with commas.

>the enraged alabaster unicorn turned to face Twilight, eyes blazing green
You're touching on some Lavender Unicorn Syndrome here. There's a section on this up top, too. And I know from reading, but grammatically, it's ambiguous whose eyes are blazing green.

>That night...//
There are more elegant ways of working this into the narration than stating it outright like stage directions.

>marvelous//
You spelled this "marvellous" earlier. Is that a British spelling?

>Rarity’s sprang up from her bed and scream.//
Verb form.

>laying back down on her bed//
Lay/lie confusion.

>The end?//
Please don't do this.

This story's not bad, but the ending took an ending I didn't expect, more because I was expecting the unexpected. If that's too confusing, basically this ending was easy to see coming.

Mechanically speaking, the main issues were with commas and sound effects, but there was a smattering of other things. Nothing too serious. As to style, there was a lot of telly language here. It can be a difficult thing to wrap your mind around, but it helps to think as if you were a character yourself. Put yourself there as an observer. What would you notice about each character to deduce how they felt? Give me the same evidence. That's probably the biggest issue with the story.

The plot was fine, but seemed to move too fast. Rarity takes a scene to become familiar with the book and what it can do, but then she quite rapidly falls under its control. If she really believes that it's dangerous, surely she'd have more of an internal conflict over whether to use it. There's also a bit of a disconnect in how Rarity and Stargazer act under the book's influence. Stargazer was fully aware of what it had done, and was presumably okay with the trade-off until fairly recently. But Rarity seems pretty oblivious and shows no such resistance to the book's effects. There could be a reason for that, but we never see what it is. For that matter, wouldn't Stargazer think it'd add more impetus to his warnings not to open the book if he told Rarity that doing so may well cause his death? He's familiar with the book, so he should know that. It also takes a bit long for any of their friends to notice the fight. I could see if they were trying to get in and it took them that long, but the first indication we get is when Applejack's already breaking down the door.
>> No. 129769
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

The synopsis isn't in the GDoc, obviously, but I'll comment on the one you sent in with your submission.

>ques//
Unless this is some jargon of which I'm unaware (which would itself be a problem), you've misspelled this. I'm guessing you want "queues," but I can't rule out "cues," since I don't really understand what you're trying to say anyway.

>What you think you see becomes your reality and those who are there are blessed and cursed at the same time.//
Missing comma. There's a section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

To the story:

>Pinkie lay in her bed, staring dully at the ceiling. She tossed from side to side for a bit, roughing up the freshly laid blue bedspread.//
Watch out for your participles. They can often be misplaced modifiers. Participles like to modify the nearest prior object, so it sounds like her bad is staring at the ceiling. It's easy to sort this one out with a bit of logic, but if you aren't careful, you eventually will write something that's ambiguous or misleading. Despite its being a fairly minor example, you don't want to toss even a little speed bump this early in the story. Now take the second sentence. There's no ambiguity, because "she" is the only thing the participle could modify. However, you have identical structures here: <main clause>, <participial phrase>. Simpler constructs can pass by without notice, unless you string too many of them together, but the more complex ones become immediately noticeable when they're repeated too much. Again, somewhere in the middle of a story, this would probably escape my eye, but you don't want to establish a repetitive sentence structure right away like this.

>She continued to stare at the ceiling//
Since nothing has happened to make me think she wouldn't continue, this is just superfluous.

>to not//
I'm a stickler for split infinitives, and while I won't enforce them in others' writing as strenuously as in my own, this type is just grating. Swap these two words.

>She broke her stare-down with the ceiling//
And all three sentences in this paragraph begin with "she." I'm only three paragraphs in, and I already have the impression that the writing is going to feel very repetitive here. You don't want a reader thinking that.

>She sighed, returning the room to silence.//
Another danger of participles: they imply simultaneous action. The room wouldn't return to silence until after she sighed, not while she's doing it.

>succume//
I believe you wanted "succumbed."

>“W-what was that?” she asked herself, “White light?”//
The punctuation in the attribution implies that both parts of the quote merge into a single sentence, but they clearly don't. There's a section at the top of this thread on dialogue punctuation and capitalization.

>Pinkie slid back under the blanket//
This implies a totally different positioning of said blanket than the earlier "flinging the blanket off of her." Just a bit more explanation of what exactly she does would clear this up.

>It was important to know that even with a memory like her own//
This could use a comma to set it off from the main clause.

>keep every party and social event she had planned kept//
Watch the repetitive word choice.

>Staring at the notebooks, thoughts of yesterday popped into her head.//
Yet another danger of participles: they can become dangling participles. "Staring at the notebooks" describes Pinkie, but she doesn't appear in the clause in a way that a participle can modify. This explicitly says that her thoughts are staring at the notebooks.

>Pinkie sense//
I generally see this capitalized. I think it's a unique enough thing to do so.

>She reached a hoof up towards her forehead.//
This is the third straight sentence to use "up." It's the little things like this that can disrupt a story's flow.

>full body//
Hyphenate the compound descriptor. Note also that you're in a stretch here where 9 of 13 sentences all start with "she."

>The mirror reflected her familiar imaged.//
Typo.

>“A greasy mane is not candy-storing mane,” she said quietly.//
Missing an "a," I believe.

>She sighed again, and turned back to the window.//
This doesn't need a comma, as per the guidelines I've already referred you to. I'm getting near the bottom of the second page, and she's already sighed four times.

>strapped around to her waist//
Extraneous word.

>Sugar Cube//
Per canon, "Sugarcube."

>A sign of trouble brewing?//
I get that Pinkie's in an unusual situation, but she still has a way of speaking, even when she's serious. This just doesn't sound like her.

>shower head//
Showerhead

>Pinkie shot her hoof back and shook it about, letting the water fly off her hoof.//
Repetitive use of "hoof" where a pronoun would do.

>night-time//
And yet you go on to describe it as a little before sunset.

>Feeling it’s chill bite against her skin//
Its/it's confusion.

>she trailed off//
You don't need to tell me this when I can already see it from the punctuation.

>bashing//
Odd word choice for this situation.

>steaming up the window and mirror//
You'll normally set off a participle with a comma. Since you've gotten it right elsewhere, this is probably just an oversight.

>peering through the window//
You just had Pinkie use that verb in the last paragraph.

>She slowly and purposefully wet her mane..//
Extra period.

>The linoleum wall//
Really? If you've seen these, sure, but I've never heard of linoleum anywhere but the floor.

>All she could do was look down at Rarity. Pinkie’s face grew more and more distressed with each second, as she looked down.//
More repetition. It could work stylistically here, but not as it's phrased.

>Pinkie hastily made way for the door.//
Missing word.

>french//
Capitalize.

>tripped over her feat//
Typo.

>Pinkie stood frozen as she gazed down at the broken pieces. Tears welled in her eyes as she stood over the glassware.//
Hard to believe that her first reaction wouldn't be fright from the lightning bolt or at least wondering what it was.

>Pinkie sniffled gently and whipped her nose.//
I'm guessing you meant "wiped."

>She finally noticed the tiny red stains in her hooves and pulled away her hoof.//
Repetition of "hoof," but I'm not sure this would be viable. It's hard to tell exactly how hooves work in canon, as only the males have a different color for them, though the few times we've seen the females polish theirs to a shine, they must have regular horse-type ones. So how do these bleed? They're essentially toenails. There is a spot back near the heel that could bleed, but it'd be hard to cut that by picking up glass. This might need a little more explanation.

>once vibrant//
Another descriptor needing a hyphen.

>Storm clouds gathered around Ponyville; the night sky’s beautiful stars were nowhere to be found.//
Comma splice.

>Lingering memories and abstract thoughts entered her mind once again.//
This is a pretty empty statement if I don't get to see them or how they affect her.

>She looked back toward the window, stained with water, moving one muscle at a time.//
See, these are confusing. The second participle has to leap back over the first and its object to get to what it modifies.

>her bodies soul//
You have a plural where you need a possessive, and you're missing the end punctuation. The possession is odd here, though—her soul belongs to her, not her body. In fact, I'd think they're very distinct things.

>saddness//
Typo.

>It was more a diary then it was an organizational tool.//
Then/than confusion.

>Sadness, loneliness, abandonment, and defeat.//
You've done a lot of mentioning emotions directly over the last few pages. What effect do these emotions have on her? We've seen some evidence, like when she ran back up to her room and got into bed. But this should be the norm. Show me the evidence of how she feels and get me to deduce her emotion. There's a section on show versus tell up top that describes this.

>Pinkies cheek//
Missing apostrophe.

>abandond//
Typo.

>The window creeked open.//
Typo.

>They too, had heartwarming grins on their faces.//
Either surround "too" with commas or don't use any.

>B—Because//
You do this in a couple places. Use a hyphen for a stutter, not a dash. And you only capitalize the first instance of the beginning letter, unless it's a word you have to capitalize anyway, like a name.

>Everything was pristine and without boarders.//
borders

>a hold//
You've alternated on spelling this as one or two words. Be consistent.

I've always been a bit dense at reading between the lines. So this is how I interpreted the ending: Pinkie died, and she's stuck in some sort of limbo where whatever she imagines comes to be. That's all I'm sure of. I think Twilight and Rarity died before her, and I guess Dash too, since she appears, though the journals never mention her. I'm not at all clear whether Pinkie killed them either in real life or by sucking them into this afterlife somehow. Really, none of this matters, unless I have it way wrong and it serves as a data point that you might need to be more clear. But it's not a huge deal for acceptance purposes, unless Pinkie did kill them, because then this kind of falls into the pile of overdone "Pinkie goes murderously nuts" stories. If she really is in control here, I don't get why the other ponies end up trying to coerce her to come out of her home, why they act so differently at the beginning of the story, why the red light hurts her, and why it took Twilight to explain the place to her (unless that's the real Twilight).

Really, though, this suffers from some very basic editing problems that most word processing software would have caught for you. There's also quite a lot of repetition in words, phrases, and sentence structures. It makes the writing get into a rut. That's the tough thing about writing: form is as important as function. It's not enough to have an engaging concept or good prose. It takes both.
>> No. 129773
>>129761

Okay, I've finished the first round of editing. I've corrected the errors you've pointed out, added a whole lot more (hopefully interesting) substance to the first two sections, got rid of the "talking heads," and altered the ending slightly so it isn't just a straightforward "happy ending after a song."

By the way, I've since remembered why I didn't extend the first scenes any further and didn't force the "getting emotionally attached to Rarity" thing so much before. The original idea was to create a very stark contrast between the problems of the two. Rarity would have been her usual "complaining" self, her biggest issues being that she's tired and dirty. Meanwhile, Pinkie Pie is forced to admit to herself that her skill doesn't go beyond being a clown for everypony around her, which I believe is several orders of magnitude more serious. Admittedly, this fell apart somewhat once I introduced Rarity's breakdown scene as well. I suppose I was kinda hoping for everyone to think what I did: she only started doubting her own worth once the situation became that desperate.

I haven't extended the part with Pinkie's confession yet, since I'm not entirely convinced that she has any reason to hide anything at that point. Since you mentioned "Party of One," in a way, isn't the moral of that episode that not talking to your friends about your problems will only lead to false (and potentially even worse) assumptions? (e.g how she assumed they don't like her parties)

I do have a plan, however, in case you believe it wouldn't hurt the story: the noises Rarity kept waking up to were actually Pinkie getting up and trotting away, then coming back again because she couldn't decide whether to run home or stay. Rarity then notices the "straight hair" and starts asking what is wrong, Pinkie tries to deny it at first, then only talks about part of the problem, etc.

I don't know... what do you think?

Also, thank you again for all the help and attention!
>> No. 129775
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>The naive mare that had left Ponyville so many years ago sat among the sounds of her assistant Coco sewing up the last of her designs. The young mare worked tirelessly as Suri sipped a steaming cup of coffee. The morning sun made its laborious climb along the buildings as Suri went over the past in her mind.//
You just spent your opening paragraph waxing poetic about the city, then we get only two sentences of what's actually happening before you shuffle us off to a flashback. Let me settle in a bit first. Set the scene, make these things connect. Show how her train of thought leads to the past instead of immediately jumping there.

>drug her down into the drowning depths//
Dragged. And I'm not sure whether the alliteration is intentional, but it tends to create a lighthearted mood. That's fighting the serious tone you're taking.

>The Knitting League were the happiest times of her life.//
That doesn't quite parse with the mixed plural/singular words.

>to not//
I don't harass authors about split infinitives too much, but this one's so easy to avoid. Just swap these words.

>With the coffee mug set aside//
But she didn't set it aside... unless this is supposed to be the action, but it's so passive for that.

>concern in her eyes//
Show me how this looks. Don't just give me the answer. There's a section on show versus tell at the top of this thread that explains.

>as she watched her employer. A sudden harsh sigh from Suri made Coco cringe.//
The story so far has been in Suri's perspective, but these smack of being in Coco's. For one, it's a bit much for Suri to say what made Coco cringe, only that she did. But Suri's not even looking at her right now, so she wouldn't see this. You really have to keep on top of your perspective at all times.

>Y-You//
Only capitalize the first part of a stutter, unless it's a word that has to be capitalized anyway.

>me-//
Please use a proper dash.

>“You know I don’t mean to yell at you like this, right?”//
This comes suddenly and with no transition. Suri was just yelling, and there's no description that she softened her expression or lowered her voice.

>ruffling the blue hair of her assistant//
You'll generally want to set off participles with a comma.

>Coco, in the meantime//
Needs another comma.

>“S-So, this Rarity--” she began before being cut off once more.//
When you have interrupted speech, the very next thing needs to be the interruption. When the narrator has time to say something in between, in undercuts the immediacy of the interruption.

>You have so much work to do and you just wanna hear about that good for nothing mare?//
Good-for-nothing. And see the section up top about comma use with conjunctions, too. You've done that several times.

>Coco ducked her head down, trying to concentrate on her work. Suri glared at the coffee mug, eyes twitching and blood beginning to boil over. She felt as though fire was rushing through her//
See, you're using two different perspectives in the same paragraph. Have a look at the section on head hopping, too.

>it’s cold fingers//
Its/it's confusion.

>her assistants every move//
Missing apostrophe.

>uptown-.
Again, use a proper dash, and lose the period.

>Suri slid her eyes to the side as the sight of Rarity made every muscle in her body tense up.//
Every sentence in this paragraph uses "as," though only 3 of the 4 use it in a time-coordinating clause. Watch the repetition.

>Coco lay on the dressing room’s couch,//
Shouldn't there be a scene break here? And last time you had one, it was just an extra blank line. You need something more noticeable.

>As her hooves strained she remembered bumping into Suri on her first day in the city.//
Needs a comma to set off the dependent clause.

>We have to go, it’s time to present my work//
Comma splice.

>Suri lead the way//
led

>Coco looked to Suri, trying to think of anything she could say to make the situation better.//
You've had a few of these, but this is the first bad one. Participles like to modify the nearest prior object, though you often have them skipping over that one to modify the subject. More often than not, a reader can still sort out what you mean. But here, you're saying that Suri is trying to think of something to say, but you probably meant Coco. It's ambiguous.

>Suri stood up and moved to Coco’s side.//
Missing a line break.

>To see her own creations in the hands of someone else.//
What are these "hands"?

>Suri felt a vessel in her head prepared to burst//
Verb form, and just awkward phrasing.

>Suri grit her teeth.//
gritted

>Suri in the meantime bore a hole into the young mare with her eyes.//
Bored. And "in the meantime" makes this sound like a casual action going on beside the main event. It's anything but.

>the orange one said//
Suri knows Rarity from Ponyville, and the Apples have been there since its founding. She really doesn't know who Applejack is?

>her voice prideful and every word dripping with smugness//
There's a lot of this in here, but just pointing out another spot where you shouldn't be directly informing me of your characters' emotions.

>looking down at the tattered dresses she’d work so hard for//
Worked

>spiders web//
spiderweb

>This isn’t happening, she thought to herself.//
Needs italics for the thought, and the "to herself" is pretty much always redundant for thoughts.

>A tear rolled out of the corner of her eye//
The single tear is one of the most cliched things to use here.

>She looked back one last time//
That's the third use of "look" in this paragraph alone. You use it 41 times in the story, which is getting up there. While I'm on the subject, of the easier forms to search for, you use "to be" 180 times, or about once every third sentence. That's also getting up there. This is a very boring verb. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. You should be choosing more active verbs.

There are some intermittent problems here with repetition and use of commas and hyphens. But the biggest issues is the head-hopping. The perspective constantly bounces back and forth between Suri and Coco, often in consecutive paragraphs, and sometimes even within the same paragraph or sentence. It's very jarring. You can change perspectives from time to time, but really consider when doing so gains you something. It takes a little time to get settled into a character's head, too, and by the time I have, you've pulled me over to a different one. This is your call, but you might do better to stay in Coco's for a while, since she's the one who experiences character growth here. She's the one who changes over the course of the story, but it happened mostly off camera. It might even be interesting to see what significance her gift to Rarity had. Maybe canon will explain it later, but so far, it's just been a generic gift, where it's the thought that matters. Compare to the gift Pinkie got, which meant a lot to Cheese. What does this mean to Coco? Like I said, you don't have to take this angle, but it's an example of how you could focus on some conflict. Or if you want Suri to be the focus, spend less time in Coco's perspective and show how, say, Suri sees some of her old self in Coco, but she's pushing her to toughen up because she thinks it's for the best, even though it hurts her to do it. There are a lot of ways you could go that would make the conflict better aligned with the perspective.
>> No. 129776
>>129773
It's tough to judge on overview. Nearly anything can work if it's written well enough. We'll have to see how it turns out.
>> No. 129777
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

The synopsis isn't bad. The only thing I'll say is that you could probably rephrase it to get rid of the "to be" verbs. You have a very limited time to grab the reader's interest, and keeping things active will do that.

>The day was so extraordinarily unremarkable that Pinkie Pie’s tail twitched nervously, and would not seem to stop//
You don't need a comma there, since there's no new clause. There's a full explanation at the top of this thread in the section on comma use with conjunctions.

>ambiguous disaster precautions in anticipation//
Your narrator is taking a subjective viewpoint in Pinkie's perspective, so you have to be careful with the voicing. It keeps up that connection to that character if the narrator speaks roughly in a manner like the character might, and this word choice isn't striking me as something Pinkie might say.

>whole half second//
If you're married to this phrasing, I'd recommend hyphenating "half-second" if for no other reason than to call it out as a separate entity from "whole," but having "whole" and "half" right together like this doesn't flow very well.

>sugarcube corner//
It's the name of the shop. Capitalize it.

>found herself//
Besides being a phrasing overused by inexperienced authors, this suggests that she was passive in ending up there. That's not the case, and it also robs this of action to phrase it this way.

>ridiculously-wide//
In two-word phrases, -ly adverbs are generally exempt from hyphenation.

>her mane she was raking//
What does this even mean? You also have two instances of breaking and three (well, two and a half) of taking in all this rhyme. Go for quality over quantity.

>which would most certainly have impressed her contemporary dance teacher, if only she had one//
You're going to make the same joke twice in one paragraph?

>coup de gras/
coup de grace

>a lavender-colored voice rang//
wut

>Twilight Sparkle walked into the kitchen, her brow first wrought in concern, then coated over with confusion.//
Watch the telling. We'll see if it becomes a problem. Since this is Twilight's first appearance, you don't want her seeming disconnected and blase, so it's not a good place for telling.

>Twilight decided the philosophical venture could wait.//
Wait, why have you wandered over to Twilight's perspective? She's not providing any new insight that Pinkie couldn't, so I don't see what it adds.

>22nd Batch//
I can let the "Batch-22" above slide in order to make the reference, but write out this number.

>- er-//
Pleas use proper dashes.

>Stop repeating what you say verba-who?//
And this just confirms that the word choice when Pinkie held the perspective was uncharacteristically highbrow for her.

>“Butter!” the pink menace repeated, and Twilight Sparkle shuddered in bitter agony.//
You're starting to lose me. Having Twilight act out-of-character for the sake of comedic ridiculousness can only go so far. If she's really this miserable, she doesn't have to stay, and I don't see a clear motivation for her to want to stay. She just keeps getting more and more frustrated without any thought as to why it's worth it to her.

>double-handspring//
Without hands?

>It was then that she made her sixth mistake//
Missing end punctuation.

>and crawled into the sink adjacent to Pinkie’s//
Pinkie's what?

>Pinkie sense//
Consensus is to capitalize this.

>Twilight began to understand that Pinkie had interpreted the statement quite differently from its intended meaning.//
That was already obvious. Don't over-explain this.

>sugarcubes//
Two words, in this sense.

>Twilight did her best to mimic the complex movements//
This doesn't really carry any weight if you're just going to allude to it without giving any sort of description.

Mechanically, the only thing I saw consistently was issues with commas, so good job there. As to style, there were a couple spots of inopportune telling. You also went really skewed toward flowery choices of speaking verbs. There are only 16 instances of "said" in the story, though I also noticed quite a few of "asked" as well, which I'd also consider one that blends in. It may just be my perception, then, but consider toning these down some. There's a rationale given at the top of this thread in the section on saidisms. I pointed out one spot where the alliteration got grating, but on the whole, it felt forced in places where meaning was sacrificed for the sake of odd word choice to keep the alliteration going.

Now to perspective. I pointed out a couple of places where the perspective wavered between Pinkie and Twilight, and as I said there, I don't see what the perspective change buys you there. I also have a section on head hopping which gives some of the rationale behind deciding when a perspective change is a good idea. What exacerbates this is that the narration stays equally purple for both perspectives. It's a good idea to have a narrator adopt a voice at least in the ballpark of the focus character. You're narrator feels pretty appropriate for Twilight, but he uses words and phrases that I doubt Pinkie would know, and indeed in one case, she doesn't. Now, there are instances where a mismatch in narrator and character actually works, but it has to be consistent in that regard, whereas yours isn't out of place for Twilight. This story isn't marked as Random, not that I'm a fan of using that tag as an excuse to redefine characters willy-nilly, but Twilight just didn't seem like Twilight here. She has to hold the idiot ball almost constantly for this to work, including having no apparent reason for sticking around at all, and for falling victim to nonsensical puzzles of logic. I could believe filly Twilight acting like this, but adult Twi? She gets flummoxed by Pinkie, not pulled into her mindset. Lastly, this plays out more like a scene than a story. What was at stake? What changed about either of the characters as a result of these events? There's not an overall message here—just a scene about Pinkie using Twilight as a sounding board to work her way through making these cupcakes.
>> No. 129782
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

First, the formatting. The paragraph indentations are very inconsistent. This can take some trial and error to get right, as it can vary by browser and device. In Chrome, I'm seeing less than half the paragraphs indented.

>“Over there! I see one over there!” Yelled a high pitched voice.//
Dialogue punctuation/capitalization. There's a section on this at the top of this thread which gives some examples.

>Ribbet !//
Extraneous space. Why capitalize it or include the punctuation, unless you're going to make it a quote. You don't need to. And it's usually spelled "ribbit."

>revealing three bright colored fillies wielding nets//
You'll normally set off a participle with a comma. And hyphenate your compound descriptors (bright-colored).

>Applebloom//
Apple Bloom.

>What do you think Sweetie Belle?//
Missing a comma for direct address.

>instead of a frogs croak//
Missing apostrophe.

>Sweetie Belle shook out her captive into the jar and the three fillies looked in wonder.//
Also see the section on comma use with conjunctions.

>its’//
Typo.

>Sweetie Belle hopped up on her stubby legs with excitement!//
Why is an objective narrator exclaiming something? And there have been several times already where you've bluntly informed me of a character's emotion. Read the section on show versus tell, too.

>*Ding Dong*//
Don't put sound effects in narration. Just describe the sound.

>an older female voiced emanated from the kitchen//
Typo.

>He leans forward//
Why is this in persent tense?

>instead-//
Please use a proper dash.

>The giant arachnid hissed and rubbed at i’s multiple eyes distracted.//
A couple of typos.

>Two Tone shrill cry of terror//
Missing possessive.

>“Is it true you outran giant spiders and scorpions”//
Missing question mark. And you keep switching tenses in this scene.

Most of these notes were compiled near the beginning of the story. As I went on, I just encountered more and more of the same problems. Really, this needs a lot of editing help before I can even dig into the plot or character.
>> No. 129787
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

So, I'll tell you up front that script-format stories are one of those things that readers tend not to like unless they're exceptional. So this will really need to stand out.

>The citizens see him as a thing, I see him as a door//
Comma splice. And who is "I" here? You haven't established who this narrator is. And looking ahead, I don't immediately see that you ever do. Why are you narrating in a script anyway? Do you envision these as voice-overs?

>1000//
Write out numbers this short.

>Summer suns celebration//
Summer Sun Celebration

>could I ask when this started to happen Fluttershy?//
Missing comma for direct address.

>Of course, you see when new animals come into town; they usually come to me first.//
Misused semicolon.

>she feels like something is dark and evil lurking in the forest
There's a lot of blatant emotional telling in here. You don't even have a lot of opportunity to give me emotional context, so you really have to get it right when you do. Consider how much communication is nonverbal. Scripts don't give us any of that, so it's inherently a lot tougher to make them enjoyable as something to read, versus seeing it performed. You keep switching between past and present tense here, too.

>Hmm...so these birds are attacking Ponyville you say? I shall go there to see what trouble and shall try with all my may to help.//
So you rhyme... and then tack on a couple more words? Zecora doesn't speak like this.

>Well now Twilight, I haven’t done anything to help yet. I hope that you are exaggerating and might even be telling tales.//
And now she's not going to rhyme at all?

>Turns out the bird is hungry, not for seeds and hot sauce//
Why would a bird be hungry for hot sauce? It's stated here as if it's what would be assumed.

>and the black and yellow coat//
Birds don't have a coat...

>I don’t what though//
Missing word.

>if we don’t go make sure the princess’s are ok//
You have a possessive where you need a plural, and write it out as "okay."

>No.//
That's it? And Twilight just accepts her answer without argument?

>So you took away from the preparations//
Why does the font change here?

>Yes sir!//
Twilight's a "sir"?

>That feeling comes important later on in the story//
If you have to point that out, you're not doing it right.

>Most “high class” ponies in Canterlot never really want to near anything that doesn’t have the symbol of importance.//
How is this germane to the lightning bolt that just hit?

>BOOM//
Don't use sound effects in narration.

>We take the son of a bitch out and we make sure he goes back to hell.//
Death is from hell? So how do ponies get to heaven then?

I just kept seeing the same mistakes over and over again. This desperately needs an editor, but beyond that, it blasts through all of these events without developing the situation or giving the emotional context that makes it come alive. You have to give the reader time to get invested in the story, and it's very difficult to do that with a script, since you're omitting all the nonverbal cues and giving me minimal description. It's like watching a movie blindfolded. I haven't counted, but I suspect it's not up to our minimal word count requirement either. This would have to come back substantially different for us to consider it again, with better immersion and likely not as a script.
>> No. 129797
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Lyrica sighed, and began considering hanging up.//
Have a look at the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread. You're also overloading me on verbs here. "Began considering hanging up." Really, you can do without the "began." It's rarely a necessary verb, and it gets overused by inexperienced writers.

>Lyrica and Lyra both knew that her lease was not in jeopardy, but neither made comment.//
This is just odd. It makes it sound like they can tell that the other knows, but over the phone, that doesn't make sense.

>whinnying with irritation//
Read the section on show versus tell, too.

>mare friend //
One word, as in "girlfriend."

>After that, Lyrica left her message.//
Well, yeah. She goes on to do so. You don't need to tell me.

>Why else would she drop me and hire her as soon as she offered?//
This is phrased as first-person, but you haven't italicized it as a thought.

>At least I’ll have something to take my mind off this mess.//
Another statement that should be indicated as a thought, but you missed an indentation here.

>audible click//
As opposed to?

>She continued towards her destination, breaking into a run when she neared the station. Lyrica waited around for a moment, pacing back and forth irritably.//
This is a really abrupt transition. One second, she's running, and the next, she's pacing around while waiting.

>newly-outfitted//
In two-word phrases, -ly adverbs are generally exempt from hyphenation.

>A week later//
Why wouldn't this warrant a new paragraph?

>reporter was attractive//
Why is this just now coming out? Shouldn't you have shown me that during their interaction?

>she had a clear objective in mind: To reinvent herself.//
Only capitalize after a colon if it refers to multiple sentences.

>And so, she decided to start a band, coming up with a format for her group-to-be.//
That's a rather snap decision. Given that it's the theme of the whole story, doesn't this deserve elaboration and a focus on how she feels about it?

>She went to bed, and got up bright and early the next morning to make more flyers.//
You do an awful lot of these time transitions in the middle of paragraphs.

>But in the end, the consequential part of this story//
Referring to the story itself in narration is a mistake. The point is for the reader to get immersed and forget he's reading a story. Don't remind him.

>She sat down on her couch and practiced her guitar, then she got up and made a cup of tea.//
Last time you said where she was, it was in the taxi. So I suppose we're in her home now? You tend to blaze through things like this without giving an accounting of what characters did or where they went. They just suddenly end up somewhere.

>a stand of hair//
strand

>Click, click, click, CLICK!//
Avoid sounds effects in narration. Better to describe the sounds.

>She came back finding that she had forgotten about her dinner, that her spaghetti was overcooked and her garlic bread was scorched.//
She's actually going to leave the house with a boiling pot going?

The two biggest things here are that you spend a lot of time listing actions without showing me how Lyrica feels about any of it. Just reading the events get boring. I want to know what sort of an emotional journey Lyrica's going on. After all, that's why the events are there, right? In a related matter, when you do give me some of her emotional context, it's in the form of blunt, telly statements that directly relate her emotions instead of getting me to deduce them. You also have a tendency to make time skips in the middle of paragraphs and include one or two insignificant events that occurred during it. But sometimes these events are acutally pretty important to the story, yet you still blast over them and give them to us in summary form only. That ends up hurting the pacing—we get detail about a day, and then rip through overnight or a couple of days with just one or two details. If those events are important, elaborate on them. If not, just do a regular scene transition and tell me it's the next day or whatever.
>> No. 129809
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>tearing out off a chunk of it//
Looks like you changed your mind on which preposition to use but forgot to delete the old one.

>Glances//
The indentation's a little uneven here. Looks like it persists here and there throughout the story. Note that this can vary by browser or device.

>from both her table and from around the cafeteria//
Repeating the "from" defeats the purpose of using "both."

>Ya’ve been at it for nearly two months now and I can’t imagine those cold walks home are helping ya rest.//
Needs a comma between the clauses. There's a section on comma use with conjunction at the top of this thread.

>She swooped her arms through her air//
I think you meant "hair"? And probably "swiped"? "Swoop" doesn't take a direct object.

>eyeing everyone else with a gleam in her eyes//
Watch the word repetition.

>blanks stares//
Typo.

>Swabbing a napkin across her mouth, Applejack crumpled it up and put it on top of what was left of her lunch.//
Note that participles imply simultaneous action, so she wiping her mouth at the same time she's crumpling the napkin up.

>said Applejack//
Looking at your speaking verbs from the beginning, I see:
replied, shrieked, pouted, chirped, corrected, muttered, explained, sighed, countered, explained, gushed, and finally we have a said!
I'm estimating about 150-200 quotes in your story, and you only use "said" 24 times. That's actually more than I was expecting it to be, but when you've front-loaded the story with all these exotic ones, you've already created that impression. They become distracting and draw attention away from the story to the writing itself. There's also a section up top about these "saidisms," but I've pretty much given you the explanation here.

>Actual construction workers are fixing it up now, that leaves me to help out cleaning the rest of the school.//
Comma splice. And why are the other girls helping her clean up? The mess wasn't their fault. I could figure out that they just want to help her, but it's worth saying so I don't have to.

>The moon peaked through the eastmost windows//
Peak/peek confusion. You get this wrong a lot. And it's "easternmost."

>Fluttershy clasped the handle//
That's a really odd word choice. Maybe you meant "grasped"?

>emergency lights//
Why are the emergency lights on? That's typically only if there's a power failure or the fire alarm is going off or something. They wouldn't have those on for people to be in the building late—they'd just leave a small number of lights on.

>perpendicular to her forearms//
Is it really important that we know this detail?

>interspaced//
Did you mean "interspersed"? Even so, that suggests a periodic thing, which you don't have here.

>an old-fashioned pocket watch//
I'm not sure what you're doing with this detail. It doesn't set the scene or tell me anything about the character. Maybe it becomes important to the plot? We'll see...

>“We have a…” The janitor readjusted the mops in the closet so that their ends all pointed in different directions. “... history.//
Looks like you're trying to put a narrative aside in a quote. Here's how:
“We have a—” the janitor readjusted the mops in the closet so that their ends all pointed in different directions “—history.

>Turning away from the closet, the group sped away from Discord with Applejack at the head now. Going around a corner, they came to a stop, their footsteps echoing down the halls. Sliding up next to the lockers, Applejack let out a deep breath.//
Have a look at this paragraph. Every sentence goes <participial phrase>, <main clause>. It's getting in a rut. I've noticed the sheer number of participles you use, too.

>lets not waste anymore time//
Missing apostrophe, and in this sense, "any more" needs to be two words.

>one of the doors handles//
Typo.

>were a dizzying array//
Number agreement.

>near the back of the room, near//
More word repetition.

scanned of the ones on the right//
Typo.

>Pinkie sped off to around a corner//
Extraneous word.

>Note to self: Never get between Pinkie and her cosmetics.//
Only capitalize after a comma if it refers to multiple sentences.

>Sliding out into the sink area, she waved her hands through the air, but the room still remained dark. Momentarily frowning, she flicked on her flashlight, casting a yellow glow around her. Grinning, she walked over the sink, humming as she turned it on.//
Another paragraph of very repetitive sentence structures. All three begin with participles, and two end with them. There are five participles in only three sentences.

>M-mr.//
You do need to capitalize both of these, since it's a word that'd have to be capitalized anyway.

>yet,//
It is unusual for commas after conjunctions to be used correctly. This one is not.

>shined a light//
"Shined" is what you do to brass or shoes. You want "shone."

> “It might have moved,” Sunset replied, “maybe we shoul—”//
As punctuated, the entire set of quotes would form a complete sentence, but it'd be a run-on.

>It was as big as person//
Missing word.

>t-the //
Think about what sound would actually be repeated. Not just the "t."

>schpiel//
spiel

>“‘You think,’”//
Why the inner quotes? It's not a direct quotation.

>tried to catch their breaths//
It's a collective noun. Just use it in the singular.

>she turned her head over to the Applejack//
Extraneous word.

>She gather them in a group//
Verb form.

>S-shouldn't//
Again, consider what sound is actually repeated.

>definitely feral now,” Sunset continued. “It’s definitely//
Repeated word. And how exactly does a sentient species go feral?

>Sunset peaked her head out from around a corner//
Missing a line break.

>The thestral spun away from from the trap//
Repeated word.

>Bet you thought you’d got the best me!” she goated.//
Missing word, and you must be going for "goaded." A questionable choice of speaking verb, though.

>Reaching up, she grabbed her upper teeth and yanked them out//
The antecedents for your pronouns are getting ambiguous here. This sounds more like she yanked her own teeth out.

>highlighting her curves//
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be getting from this...

>She ran a hand across her bare skin//
...or this. Where does she have bare skin? Her face? You haven't described her outfit enough for me to tell.

>Costume//
Why would this be capitalized?

>Shy-shy//
Capitalize both parts.

That ending just did not make any sense to me. So Fluttershy is doing a bat costume and is pranking Applejack? The ending joke was just weak. Why would Fluttershy stop to say that rather than continue flying away? And it's not even funny.

The biggest problems here are assorted editing issues, repetition, and a need for some more emotional context. There are too many spots, particularly at the beginning, where you get focused on relaying event after event without showing me how the characters feel about it. This got better toward the end when you went into horror mode, but a word about that as well: Good horror affects all the senses. Too many writers focus on only what is seen or heard in general and for horror specifically. You do have the scene where Pinkie feels warm breath on her neck, so that's a good use of a different sense. What might they smell or taste? Admittedly, the latter is tough to do in this situation, but since it ends up being important, you could describe the flavor of the lipstick. You also have to ratchet up the level of creepiness gradually. Keep it going up a steady slope; if you rely on the same scares over and over again, the reader gets used to them, and they become stale and ineffective. However, you have a very limited number of encounters here: one with Pinkie and one with everyone else, when Applejack gets tangled in the net. I guess this depends on whether you want a fairly quick resolution here, but you could get away with putting in more scenes without making it feel padded, as long as it was building the tension. Finally, the most effective monster is the one you never see. It disarmed the tension somewhat for Pinkie to see as much of it as she did, and it let the air out entirely when Sunset immediately identified what it was and knew it wasn't dangerous. That'll hinge more on how much you want this part of the story to feel like horror or whether you really do want to keep it as light as possible.

Still, this wasn't a bad story, and I enjoyed reading it.
>> No. 129839
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Boredom - the silent killer.//
I'd say to use a proper dash instead of a hyphen, but a colon seems more appropriate.

>Until now.//
These little quick-hit paragraphs work when they stand out. The more of them you use, the more you defeat their purpose. And I'm seeing quite a few of them.

>(which caused him to almost get tossed in the dungeon)//
Parentheticals work best in a very personal narration, like first-person or deeply subjective third-person.

>But then, suddenly, it hit him - literally.//
And now I will say: please use a proper dash, not a hyphen.

>in quite sometime//
In this sense, "some time" needs to be two words.

>While horrible weather reigned over//
Reigned over what? That phrasing suggests an object.

>And Twilight Sparkle was going to do just that.//
At least it's not the first scene, but a weather-report opening is still a bad idea. I'm also noting the sheer number of "to be" verbs I've seen already. They're inherently boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. You should be choosing more active verbs.

>"Discord?" she asked, in pure confusion.//
Check out the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread. Bottom line: this is a big moment in the story, and you'll distance the reader from it if you don't get me to see the confusion for myself.

>its'//
its

>she pressed play and kept her eyes on the bare wall that sufficed as her screen, happily watching each scene unfold.//
You do this a lot, but at least most instances haven't been confusing. Note that participles like to modify the nearest prior object, unless they start the sentence. So your "happily watching" tends to describe the screen. In fact, we have to go back through the wall and here eyes before we finally get to the intended object. It's a bad idea to separate a phrase so far from what it describes.

>it had to something absurd//
Syntax is off.

>...he really was childish, wasn't it?//
First off, "it" doesn't work here. Second, a leading ellipsis is for a continued sentence that left off earlier or for speech that's just becoming audible. You don't have either here.

>-you're the most chaotic being in all of Equestria//
Same deal with a leading dash.

>He stroked his goatee in thought, and arched an eyebrow.//
Also have a look at the section on comma use with conjunctions.

>so- ...//
Don't use these together. They mean opposite things.

>napsack//
The word is "knapsack," but based on your description, I think you want "bindle."

Most of these detailed notes are only examples—the problems occur multiple times through the story. In addition, I'd point out the abundance of unusual speaking verbs you use. It gets better later in the story, but in the beginning, you did this enough that I definitely noticed it, and you don't want the reader noticing the writing itself so much. The rationale behind this is discussed in the section on saidisms at the top of this thread.

Well... okay. We're kind of tossed into shipping here without anything to build it up as natural and believable. Discord at least gives a tiny bit of explanation as to how he feels, but it's still quite sudden, and Twilight immediately decides she reciprocates? These characters need to seem real, and you have to develop some authentic chemistry between them. You can't just throw two characters together and ask me to provide the investment. This is one of the most common problems with shipping stories. The relationship itself is as important as any of the characters. It needs to be developed with the same care, and it needs to have the same depth.
>> No. 129841
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

I have to say, that synopsis is the exact opposite of enticing. All I get from it is that there's a soldier involved. I have a better sense of what happens from the story's tags.

>"But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play"//
If you're going to put this in quotes, the ones nested inside it should be single quotes. And you don't need that comma. That goes for the title on the story's main page as well.

>the only thing one could see were fields and farms//
Number mismatch

>suprisingly comfy seat//
You have to be careful of words that express an opinion. Your narrator hasn't taken on any character's perspective, so who is it that's surprised? It'd be a stretch to say it was the character being described anyway, but he's asleep and can't express any opinions. It's also misspelled.

>The red material of the uniform fit the stallion’s grey hair surprisingly well.//
Besides being repetitive in using the same word again, here's another unattached opinion. I'll also say the amount of past participles is a bit off-putting. Why not go with simple past for most of them? Tacking that "was" on saps the verbs of their action. It's a tense best used sparingly.

>bursted//
While this is an acceptable past tense, it's usually reserved for something like a balloon or bubble. I think "burst" would work much better here.

>He growled, clearly displeased by having to deal with such a passenger.//
See the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread. Early in the story like this is the place to engage me, and telly language doesn't do that.

>“Thank you very much, “The grey pony replied politely.//
Misplaced quotation marks and dialogue tag capitalization.

>He was used to such reactions, but it didn’t mean he liked them.//
And now we've finally established the narrator as being in the passenger's perspective. But my earlier points about the narrator expressing an opinion still stand, since this character was asleep at the time.

>buffon//
buffoon

>the medals on his chest shined brightly//
"Shined" is what you do to brass or shoes. You want "shone."

>wearer - a//
Please use a proper dash.

>The grey pony thoroughly checked all the details, not excluding the smallest ones.//
The second half of this sentence is entirely extraneous.

>He realized why the command has sent him here//
Why the switch to present tense?

>he’s learnt it’s layout//
Present tense again? And its/it's confusion.

>He took of his shako and bowed.//
Typo.

>“I’m sorry, but we’re all out,” she replied bluntly.//
Now I have to wonder why you're using Applejack at all. She's never shown the least bit of disdain for soldiers or willingness to forgo a sale. So to put her in this situation begs explanation. Either get at what makes Applejack feel this way, or you might as well use an OC here.

>face!|//
Missed the closing quotation marks.

>“Eeyup…”//
This scene was very heavy-handed. It could have been accomplished in the previous scene with some well-placed body language and a couple of muttered phrases instead of over-explaining it all.

>“murderers from Totenhoof//
More missing quotation marks.

>paid by the Princesses for slaughtering civilians and burning cities and villages to the ground//
Wouldn't this imply Applejack would harbor just as much of a grudge, if not more, against Celestia? So why hasn't Celestia done anything about this prevailing mood?

>It had been a few minutes and he had already ran into more Bearers//
See the section at the top of this thread on comma use with conjunctions. And you have a bad verb form here (had run).

>Exactly one hundred and twenty, miss//
"Miss" would be capitalized, since he was trying to use it as part of her name.

>“She didn’t tell you…” The yellow pegasus whispered.//
Dialogue tag capitalization.

>1200//
Spell out numbers unless they get exceedingly long.

>CAN’T YOU SEE IT’S ONE OF THIS BAD, CRUEL MURDERERS?
Syntax is off, this really doesn't sound like something Fluttershy would say, and italics are preferred over all caps for emphasis or volume.

>orders, to//
Extraneous space.

>red-coats
>redcoats//
Inconsistent spelling.

>Don’t think anypony from our town is going to join your band of murderers, sergeant!//
"Sergeant" would be capitalized as a term of address. But back to my earlier point about why ponies should regard Celestia the same way they do these soldiers. As close as Twilight is to Celestia, wouldn't she know the truth? Particularly for someone who appreciates facts more than unfounded impressions?

>ss well as//
Typo.

>The lavender unicorn//
Why do you keep referring to them with these descriptors? He knows who they are.

>wrily//
wryly

>"Oh, boy",//
Comma goes inside the quotes.

>she laughed in response. - “Give me back my shako”!//
Exclamation mark goes inside the quotes, too. And what is that hyphen doing there? As she continues to talk, you don't have her speech in quotes, either.

>bearers//
You're inconsistent at capitalizing this.

>“And he hit me!” Rainbow Dash seconded her. “Let me at him!”//
Missing a bunch of line breaks in this area.

>Press gang//
I'm not familiar with this term. Did you mean something like a compulsory draft?

The story itself is fine, aside from the inexplicable use of canon characters in decidedly out-of-character ways. I can't help but think it would have worked with a cast of original characters, but forcing the Elements into roles that don't suit them... really, only Rainbow Dash was believable. Beyond that, this story needs a lot of editing help. There are just a whole lot of very basic and inconsistent errors.
>> No. 129849
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Existentialism//
Book titles should be underlined or (preferably) italicized.

>I watched ten page unfold at the speed I usually read at//
Typo and a redundant "at."

>Myself and the child are so very similar in this respect//
Misused reflexive pronoun. They don'y work this way—they aren't nominative case.

>it makes me ask more questions; not about the way things are//
Misused semicolon. There isn't an independent clause anywhere after it.

>She sniffled a bit and went up to room//
Missing word.

>By the time that one kicked I could feel a trembling in my hoof//
Another missing word.

>upset stomachs fatigues me//
Typo.

>Feeling rested enough//
I notice you go without commas after introductory elements, and they're really not required. But you should do so with most participles, even elsewhere in a sentence.

>more emotional of a pony than me//
Comparatives are in nominal case—"than I."

>let my imagination get the better me and actually imagined//
Watch the word repetition.

>Long married//
Hyphenate the compound descriptor.

>unsaid rule said//
Close enough to word repetition that it feels clunky, somewhat also because of the apparent contradiction.

>she is so much farther than reality than I am//
Typo.

>Everyone will be too polite to give her anything but compliment//
Typo.

>She got all sorts compliments//
Missing word.

>out-dated//
I've now noticed a few unnecessarily hyphenated words like outdated and coworkers.

>it irk's me//
Get rid of that apostrophe.

>the sort of pony who humours them and lie//
Typo.

>and my I don't have an absolute meaning//
Some wording got jumbled there.

I really liked this story. That should be evident from the small number of things I found wrong with it. There are a fre more, though. First, have a look at the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread. I noticed quite a few missing commas from dependent clauses.

Second, you make one or two brief mentions of Sweetie Belle, but I found her strangely absent from the story. I realize that canon is vague about how much time she actually spends at Rarity's, but the implication is that their parents live nearby, since she goes to school there. Kids are good at picking up on when adults are acting differently. I'd think she'd notice. Sure, you may deal with her in later chapters, but I have to think she wouldn't have let it go this long without saying something. And sure, Rarity's not noecessarily mentioning everything that happens to her each day, but that seems like the kind of thing she'd remember.

Do you intend these chapter titles to actually mean these occur a month apart? Because that would be a huge amount of time between a death and a funeral. And with respect to the funeral... Rarity never mentions her mother at all. As distanced as she is from her own feelings, she still seems to be pretty well in touch with others', so why no observations on her mother? And why is her mother never placed at the funeral, or a visit beforehand, or anything at all?

Next issue: You have a ton of "to be" verbs in here. They're boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. Even for descriptions where you use one of these verbs, it's usually possible to recast it with an active verb, and you do so in some places. I get that the use of so many "to be" verbs can create a stagnant feel, and maybe intentionally so, but that's getting across enough in what Rarity says; you don't need it reflected so much in how she says it. I tend to give you some leeway in maintaining this mood, but that only goes so far.

Maybe you meant for it to be this subtle, but it seems to me that Twilight started out trying to get Rarity interested in things that interested her, but when Rarity didn't take to it, then Twilight shifted to taking on Rarity's interests. But there's never a part where Rarity actually discusses the philosophy book with Twilight, so I feel more like I'm completely inventing that. Even so, it's a nice subtext you might consider making clearer.

In a first-person narration, there's an implied audience. Normally, that can just be swept under the rug, but depending on the delivery, it sometimes begs the question of who's listening and why (and some scholars will assert this is always the case). Because of the somewhat conversational tone taken and the way these are dated, it does make me question this more than many other such fics would. So I have to ask: Are these journal entries? If not, why does she want to say these things, and whom does she want to hear them?

I'd encourage you to put in the occasional moment of happiness or levity. Effective sad stories work in contrasts. By interspersing lighter moments (or in some stories, action scenes), you make the sad moments stand out and prevent the reader from becoming inured to them.

Lastly, it's not at all clear where this story is going, and I'd feel more comfortable about it if I had more chapters to work with or a brief summary of your intended plot.
>> No. 129850
>There are no books, however, so she moves down to the next shelf.//
Given that she's specifically looking for books, why is she wasting her time with this?

>the spines have large words she can't pronounce//
Comma here.

>She takes this as a small victory.//
This paragraph is coming across a little bland, and the sentence structures are a bit repetitive.

>as if just now realizing she'd been addressed//
Just used "realize" a few sentences back.

>The spine is open//
Comma here.

>She moves down one more shelf, and is greeted with what she's looking for.//
No comma this time.

>psyche//
In this sense, "psych."

>What better place to store a journal than desk?//
Missing word.

>something or other//
Should probably hyphenate this.

>Pinkie likely does not hear her.//
Why not? I suppose I'll find out when we get to her part, but for now, it just leaves the picture incomplete, and without an apparent point.

>Behind them is a metal flask that she leaves alone, and another picture frame, that she removes.//
Nitpick, but you're using non-restrictive clauses here, so you really should have "which" instead of "that" for both of them.

>Rarity is right, it is actually quite warm and snug in here.//
Splice.

>Well, I didn't think to bring anything with me. I thought about it//
Aren't these contradictory?

>Twilight makes the noise that means "please stop talking right now before I burst into flames".//
This period can go inside the quotes.

>It's a really fascinating, original sort of the sound.//
Extraneous word.

>one hundred and seventy//
Someone like Twilight would know not to put the "and" in there.

>She regrets that she hasn't kept in touch with him //
Given that he's gone, shouldn't this be a "hadn't"?

>This won't do, she'll have to sort them out by date.//
Splice.

>The vase flowers//
Missing a word.

>Theoretically, they could be flipping through books all day trying to find the right one.//
Well, she estimated two hundred books. That wouldn't take so long.

>Great.//
Your narrator has been very dispassionate through the whole thing. While you did take on a little bit of personal voice for each of their sections, Pinkie's was the only one that sounded conversational, so this feels a little out of place, unless you want to do more of it.

>I can't even begin to imagine just important all of this work is!//
Missing word.

>Every iteration had small differences, and over the last half dozen, I was able to implant suggestions that would echo through into future loops, so we'd know to stop Pinkie from messing with it!//
There is a ST:TNG episode almost exactly like this... And a guest appearance from Kelsey Grammer. Do you have one of those too?

I kind of found myself wanting the cutoffs for each section to have a dash. And the allusions to Spike, Shining Armor, and Cadence don't make much sense. I get that these time loops may have gad a far-reaching effect, but now that they've stopped, what danger is Spike in anymore? I just don't get what Twilight is going to save him from. It's always hard to decide what to do with Pinkie in a serious story like this. She does have a strange mindset about things, but she also knows when to knock it off. You probably don't have any choice put to put her part last, but her attitude in it changed the tone of the story. Dash's part was fairly light, but then we eased into more serious treatment from the next three, which handled the themes well. They all had thoughts wandering around how they'd react to a similar situation. Well, Fluttershy didn't, but she still responded reasonably to the pervading atmosphere. Then we get to Pinkie, and it suddenly turns into a fun story, and then right back again when we get to Twilight. Then the story ends on an underwhelming note, what with the cryptic remark about Spike, Twilight's somewhat muted reaction to the loops' end (well, maybe not on her part, but it's certainly not contagious), and the lack of some pithy statement at the end kind of kept there from being a real conclusion. But I enjoyed reading it, and it was interesting to see how all the different perspectives interconnect. Based on what Twilight said, I guess each of them was supposed to have some sight difference? If so, I missed that. And was I right in thinking that Pinkie was somehow immune to the effect and realized how many times she'd been through the loop?
>> No. 129854
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>(and a single stir counter-clockwise, just to be sure)//
This would work better simply set off with commas. Parenthetical elements really do better when in first-person or sometimes a very deep third-person limited, where there's a very informal and conversational narrator. This narration is a bit formal for that.

>woops//
Whoops

>Twilight giggled as her horn shined bright//
"Shined" is what you did to brass or shoes. You want "shone."

>She felt a slight chill that morning//
This is a finished action in the story's timeline, so use past perfect tense: "had felt."

>with a bored expression. Casually//
Have a look at the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread. We'll see if it's a pervasive problem. It hasn't been so far, and this isn't an instance of high emotion where it'd normally bother me, but right at the beginning of the story, it's important to forge a connection between the reader and your characters, and showing is the way to do that.

>As Twilight passed by him to creep onto her own bed,//
This is already the fifth "as" clause I've seen. You're creating a repetitive feel early on, and even if that doesn't keep up, it's the impression I have now. You also use quite a few participles, which have their own associated dangers. I'll point out if you fall into any of the usual traps.

>finishing a scroll for the Saddle Arabian ambassador. “Did you ever finish//
Watch repeating a word in a close space like this.

>feel for//
Extraneous space.

>Once he was sure it was the right one//
Be careful. Your narrator's been in Twilight's perspective so far. Just look at how often he makes personal comments for her. But this statement is in Spike's point of view. Unless you give me evidence of how she'd know this, it's in his head. Read the section on head hopping to see the rationale on when and how to change perspective.

>breaking the jewels//
Really, cloth would break long before the jewels would. I'm not sure what her concern is.

>I thought she might an exception//
Missing word.

>You didn’t..?//
You still need the three full dots for the ellipsis.

>Not many ponies would go that for a simple gift//
Typo, and the "not many ponies" is a little out of place, considering that she's not talking to one.

>Twilight fidgeted, Spike’s tone was sincere.//
Comma splice.

>Rarity’s the generous one, I’m just a baby dragon.//
Another splice.

>masterly-woven//
In two-word phrases, -ly adverbs are generally exempt from hyphenation.

>whatever foundation laid underneath Rarity’s hooves//
Lay/lie confusion.

>Glancing at the clock, she noticed she was late.//
Here's one of the dangers I noted about participles. They connote simultaneous action, but she wouldn't do both of these at the same time. She'd first glance at the clock and then realize she was late.

>present her presents//
More clunky repetition.

>Rarity facehoofed, a massive impact on her face.//
This is... really strange. I'm not sure yet what the importance of all the rhyming is, but you're forcing some weird phrasings and word choices to accomplish it.

>her celebrations discrete//
Surely you meant "discreet."

>Except today, of course, but alas.//
Rhyming "alas" with "rash"? For shame.

>Rarity gasped, becoming quite aghast. “Surely you’re joking, the storm’s come to pass!//
Two things: Why is Rarity's curse forcing others to speak in rhyme as well? And how does that curse carry over to the narration? I could see if this were a first-person narration, such that the narration was still an internal dialogue. But it's not, so she wouldn't be aware of the narration. How then would she rhyme with it? It could even work if the narration and dialogue both rhymed, but you made sure never to require the rhyme to cross from one to the other.

>Rainbow said, her wings twitched in agitation.//
That's either a splice or a verb form error.

>quick as a volt//
Did you mean "bolt"? Because a volt implies nothing about speed.

>Rarity did not want try-//
Missing word. I can't figure out why the dash is necessary, but in any case, please use a proper one and not a hyphen.

>No one could stop her, not even Pan.//
What in the world would Pan have to do with any of this?

>until the dishes gleaned//
"Gleamed," yes?

>Twilight paused with an introspective spark. An idea formed, the creative’s spark.//
And you're going to rhyme "spark" with... "spark." Hm.

>To be honest Rarity, your gift is touching//
Missing a comma for direct address.

>Daring Doo//
Do

>Druish//
What in the world is this? A Spaceballs reference?

I have to commend you for keeping up rhymes for that long. But poetry is something that has to stand out even more for us to accept it, and this relies too much on questionable rhymes and forced word choices/phrasings that sacrifice meaning. You really can't compromise there—you have to do both, and while that's especially difficult, such is the nature of the vehicle you've chosen. I'm also unclear as to what brings on Rarity's part of the story. Would it have happened anyway, or was it caused by Spike's act of generosity toward her? The structure of the story seems to favor the latter, but it's very unclear.
>> No. 129860
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
First, having so many quick-hit paragraphs here creates a feel that you don't have anything organized or significant to say, since you're relying on an artificial sense of urgency to create interest. Just say what the story's about. That's all that's required. It's also pretty cliched to ask rhetorical questions here.

Story:
>But,//
Most commas after conjunctions aren't used correctly. This one is also not.

>Even with her gasping wails of pure distort//
I'm not sure what word you were going for there, but "distort" doesn't work.

>it became apparent//
It became apparent to whom? Me? Not so—I'm relying on you to tell me. The narrator? I have no idea who he is? Pinkie? She seems to know already. You have to be careful when communicating impressions or opinions that we know who is expressing them.

>stuttering for breath//
I assume you meant "sputtering"?

>Sugercube//
Sugarcube

>the door garble//
I'm guessing you meant "gable"?

>She prodded at the brown fibbers in the welcome mat.//
"Fibers," I guess? There are far too many spelling errors already.

>producing a crestfallen expression//
Don't just tell me she's crestfallen. Describe her appearance and show me her actions such that I concluded it on my own.

>unicorn//
If you're not going to capitalize all the races, don't capitalize any. Your use of "Pegasus" earlier would then refer specifically to the one from Greek mythology.

>rain saturated//
Hyphenate your compound modifiers.

>It was weird because make-up was top priority to Rarity, now it just reminded her of how “frivolous” she was.//
Comma splice.

>Tip-toeing slowly, the weeping grew louder//
Dangling participle. Who's tiptoeing? The sentence doesn't say. This explicitly states that the weeping is tiptoeing.

>She soon realised that Rarity was extremely light on her hooves.//
Why are you shifting perspectives? Not that it can't be done, but you have to carefully consider it. Read the section on head hopping at the top of this thread to get the rationale.

>she informed//
This verb requires a direct object.

>“Oh yes, the pony who makes everypony in town happy is “a nuisance”,”//
When nesting quotes inside other quotes, use single quotation marks.

>I’m I important//
Extraneous word.

>complemented//
Compliment/complement confusion.

>Pinkie’s eye’s reflected the brightest of blues//
Misused apostrophe.

>She hesitated, lying to Pinkie wouldn’t achieve anything//
You don't capitalize these interjected asides, unless the first word is one that has to be capitalized anyway.

>T-that’s//
Think about what sound would actually be repeated.

You're a little on the vague side here, but you're kind of falling into the most common trap of shipping stories: you just throw the two ponies together and expect me to already have a prefabricated investment in the pair. The challenge of shipping is to make the pairing feel natural and authentic. That means demonstrating the=at they have real chemistry together and (usually) giving evidence of the development of that relationship rather than dropping me into the middle of it. You do some things right along these lines, like relating Rarity's thoughts about how she's enjoyed watching Pinkie hop by her boutique these past years, and that they didn't go to Sugarcube Corner together with the intent of having a romantic encounter. So you're on the right track there, but as to the good and bad, you're drawing a little from column A and a little from column B. You have to be very cautious in presenting this relationship so that it feels authentic instead of unjustified. Aside from that, this story has lots of basic editing problems, like misused words and others substituted for others with similar spellings.
>> No. 129863
>>129776

(Regarding the story discussed here: >>129746)

Resubmitted and requested you as the pre-reader. Thank you for all the feedback!

Last edited at Mon, Mar 10th, 2014 03:30

>> No. 129869
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
Nothing's wrong with it per se, but it's completely quick-hit, one-line paragraphs. Such things are done to stand out, and when everything stands out, nothing does. It's a little of an eyesore.

On the title:
This can work as an overall title, as long as it fits the story. However, I have to say it's odd to see it as the title of the first chapter as well, for two reasons. First, you gnerally only see the story title repeated as a chapter title when there's only one chapter. Second, and interlude, by definition, comes between other things, not first.

>but still winter, nonetheless//
"still" and "nonetheless" are redundant here.

Your second paragraph, and the first one of any length, contains seven "to be" verbs. I suspect this will be an ongoing issue, but you definitely don't want to overload on them here, where you're trying to grab the reader's interest. They're boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what is. You should be choosing more active verbs.

>the conductor stated, flatly//
No reason for that comma to be there.

The conductor gave a noncommittal harrumph, and gently shook his leg free of Octavia's grasp.//
Don't put sound effects in narration. It's a valid word anyway. Just use it without the italics, put it in quotes, or describe the sound instead. Also see the section at the top of this thread on comma use with conjunctions.

>hurriedly made her way back to her hooves//
That's different than having her stand up. This means hat her hooves are elsewhere, and she's going over to them.

>Her cheeks burned as she dragged it along the ground//
Surely she can carry it on her back...

>the case had been so heavy that she could barely lift it//
Really? They're not that heavy, and she's an earth pony, after all.

>ARE YOU A CHANGELING!?//
Okay. This is one of the most common things people do wrong in letters, particularly when the entire story is letters. They put things in a letter that are unreasonable for the format. People have plenty of time to plan what they want to write in a letter. I can buy single-word strikethroughs for misspellings and the like, but an entire sentence? Pinkie wouldn't have needed to change her mind about writing this. I could even let it go as a childish thing with her, but you've explicitly stated erasure marks on the paper. If she's erasing things, why would she strike things through? It doesn't add up.

I'm also noting that nearly every sentence in the letter ends in an exclamation mark. See my comments on the synopsis. The same thing applies. Exclamation marks make things stand out and overusing them defeats the purpose.

>Blinkie//
Well, I'll go ahead and say that they've kind of been given names now (Limestone and Granite), though that's comic canon, and I won't hold you to it.

>treble clef//
Her cutie mark is actually closer to an ampersand. And it's ironic that she plays an instrument that doesn't read treble clef... but I digress.

>“Cello,” Octavia murmured.//
They're both right. The old-fashioned long name is violincello.

>Not again. Not out here in public, where everypony can see you.//
Like where nobody's standing around on the platform or paying attention to her? You certainly haven't painted the picture of a busy area, anyway. By the way, I'm well over the five-minute mark on reading this letter. The train should have left already...

I also have to ask how they could give her a middle name of Octavia and not know what a treble clef is, given how prescient their naming schemes seem to be. For that matter, she has the longer name of "Octavia Melody" in the merchandising.

>she bit back her fury, and her anguish, and her astonishing self-loathing//
This is coming on all of a sudden, and without any evidence. You seem like an experienced enough writer to understand "show versus tell." (There's a section up top about that too, if you need a refresher.) You don't want to dump all this defining information about her in the form of a tell. That's not going to get me invested in her character.

>Her work at the symphony paid virtually nothing//
Top musicians actually earn a comfortable living. I have to think Canterlot would have one of the leading orchestras, and with her being a valedictorian, she should be able to live comfortably.

>then we sat around and smoked weed the rest of the night//
Just so you know, use of real-world drugs is against EqD policy.

>However, the idea never really gained a lot of traction//
You really think so? The idea is actually quite common.

>blighted plot of land like a great, graying wound upon the earth//
Alright, now you've got a character voicing problem. Vinyl holds your perspective here, and this word choice and phrasing plain doesn't work for the personality you've established for her. Unless the bad-girl stuff is just a front over an intelligent interior, but you've given me no evidence of that. If your narrator's in her point of view, then he needs to sound at least in the ballpark of what she might say in terms of vocabulary and phrasing.

>Celestia's light//
This is one of the most cliched phrasings in the fandom.

>But Octavia seemed to know exactly where she was going//
And Vinyl should know exactly why she does...

>along the way, they hadn't so much as glimpsed another living soul//
You already said as much.

>reacquainting herself with the scent of the place//
Why are you popping back into Octavia's head for the grand total of one sentence?

>She was quiet, for a moment//
Why is that comma there?

>S'not//
Consider where the missing letter actually is. 'S not.

Oh yeah, so Octavia could barely lift her cello at the train station, but now she's having not trouble traipsing through the woods with it?

>S'your//
Same deal as before.

>It's you! It's really you!//
This whole paragraph is not a good idea. One or two lines, sure, but this kind of thing gets old fast.

>sis//
As a term of address, this would be capitalized.

>desperate bawling//
Less is often more in emotional moments. If you go over the top, it loses its power.

>the dark, raging waters of her soul//
Yeah, you're getting really maudlin here.

The perspective's really wavering a lot here at the end. You might want to read the section on head hopping, too.

These would be my main laundry list of issues: commas, appropriate narrative voicing, consistent perspective, some melodrama, some telly language, and overload of "to be" verbs. And lose the drug reference.

This story's also pretty weak on the conflict. It was pretty obvious from the beginning of Pinkie's letter that we'd get to this point, and we already knew that Pinkie was accepting of her. And Octavia was willing to go meet Pinkie, or she wouldn't have been at the train station in the first place. So there was no question that this moment would arrive. The real conflict that had been dangled in front of my face was how Octavia would relate to the rest of her family, and... we never get to see that. I really get everything I can from the story within the first few pages. It plays as a nice series of scenes, but there's not really a story there.
>> No. 129873
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>It's quite a strange thing, the power of words.//
It's a tricky thing to strike a conversational tone like this, considering that your narrator doesn't have a perspective. Consider this line from a bit later:
>her rather considerable wings//
This is again a perspective problem. The narrator is expressing an opinion, but whose? He hasn't adopted a character's point of view yet, so nobody in the story. He shouldn't express his own, unless he's been established as a character in his own right, like someone sitting down with me and telling me the story. So whose opinion is it?

>pony kind//
One word, as in "mankind."

>He began to ponder whether or not that was what had brought this about//
And now you're in this Baron's head. I'm betting you don't stay there long enough to justify taking his viewpoint...

>She was a pony who chose her words carefully, and always said what she meant.//
See the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>Even the guard, who was, on the whole, used to Celestia's little idiosyncrasies, felt a slight hint of unease//
Ah, I was right. Now I'm betting you don't stay with the guard long, either.

>They wondered//
You're doing an awful lot of wondering early on in this story. It's a weak action. Occasional use is fine, but you're relying on it a bit much.

>Richelieu cleared his throat once more and tried again.//
Speaking of weak actions, "to be" is an inherently boring verb. You have eight of them in this paragraph alone. Use more active verbs. They keep things interesting.

>it sound irregular//
Typo.

>Celestia saw a few shudders go through the gathered ponies, but she didn't care.//
And now we're in Celestia's head. Definitely read the section on head hopping at the top of this thread.

>Hearths//
That's a possessive.

>Their expressions ranged from unease to cautious optimism//
And add the section on show versus tell to your reading list.

>watered down//
Hyphenate your compound modifiers.

>The amount of them//
"Amount" is for collective quantities. You want "number."

>Ever social stigma, every bias//
Typo.

>a rather large unicorn stallion name Iron Hoof//
Typo.

>flying close to her, and she looked to see Luna flying//
Watch the word repetition.

>And now that you're standing on the battlefield, I'm afraid that you are now fair game.//
More repetition.

>"Sweet dreams, We hope?"//
Why would she capitalize "We" but not "thee" or "thou"?

>The smiles of both sisters fell, and they turned towards the horizon, igniting their horns to move the sun and the moon.//
I can find no reason why they'd be sad here...

>raise takes//
Did you mean "taxes"?

So, the biggest problems here are the abundance of "to be" verbs, a couple spots of inopportune telling, and a very flighty narrative viewpoint in the early going. I have to say that there's really not much sad there. The ending of the first scene stumped me as to what was supposed to be sad, and the ending of the story had a more forced sad feel to it. So she feels self-conscious about ordering a snowball fight? There are doubtless ones who would enjoy it. Instead of requiring participation, why not schedule a time for all who want to take part? And Luna knows how much fun Celestia thought it would be. Certainly, she'd be willing to help. There's not really a convincing reason here that Celstia can't have a snowball fight.
>> No. 129891
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Pinkie scampered down the dimly lit road, chill winter air rushing past her, bouncing a little on every eighth step, mind a flurry of anticipation.//
First sentence already. Look how back loaded this is. You start off with a nice, clear image and your lead character. So far, so good. Then you tack on a phrase. Then another. Then a third. It gets clunky, and it steals focus from that nice first image. It's like the first Lord of the Rings Movie. It draws to a nice close. But wait, it's not over. Then it draws to a close. But it's not over. You get the picture.

>hope and worry coiled around her throat//
Depending on how you use it in the story, telling isn't necessarily a bad thing, but this is the first emotional note in the story, so you need to make it authentic and connect with the reader. Telling isn't the way to do that. There's a discussion of show versus tell in the OP of this thread.

>her stance was cheerful and confident, her ears up, head cocked slightly//
Same deal. You tell us her emotion, but then you make that unnecessary by going on to describe someone who we can identify as maybe no those exact emotions, but close enough.

>daiquiri//
What about Manehattan conjures a daiquiri? I'd expect something like a cosmopolitan or a long island iced tea.

>you –” Rarity dabbed at Pinkie's muzzle with a handkerchief. “– I//
In an aside put into a quote like this, you don't put a period as end punctuation (other end punctuation can work). The two parts of the sentence need to make sense when joined, though, and these would be separate sentences.

>Had her digression annoyed Rarity.//
This is a question, right?

>Pardon me if this is intrusive, but shouldn't you already know this?//
I was going to chide you for the preceding infodump, but I decided to let it slide. Then you went and made it superfluous...

>… Yes?//
You don't need to leave a space after a leading ellipsis.

>Pinkie took a gulp of champagne.//
And considering how she reacted to the last one, nothing happens this time?

>And,//
It's only in specific circumstances that commas after conjunctions are used correctly. This one is not. They're not good things to use for dramatic pauses, if that's what you intended.

>“Pinkie!”
It's standard to italicize ! or ? when it's on an italicized letter.

>S'okay//
Think about where the missing letters actually are. That's where the apostrophe goes. 'S okay.

>when the shock has subsided//
Why is this in present?

>Hush, and kiss me again, you silly, impetuous creature!//
Overblown lines like this really stretch the story's credibility.

>at a reasonably hour tomorrow//
Typo or missing word.

>Given that I will going away to work//
Missing word.

>Earth pony//
Don't capitalize this, unless you're capitalizing the entire two-word phrase and both of the other races as well. As it is, you're referring to our planet, not ground.

>and bit chubby//
Missing word.

First, this is well-written, for the most part. I'm glad you were able to keep the entire thing in Pinkie's perspective instead of ping-ponging between her and Rarity, a mistake many inexperienced writers make. There's not enough here to warrant a strike, but I do need to caution you about a couple of things.

First, I'd at least like to see a summary of where this is going, if not see a couple more finished chapters. Actually, first and second, because this would alleviate both of my concerns. You kept it clean so far, but you hinted at some possible behavior that could cross the line, depending on how explicit you get. The other matter is the stage of their relationship. I see your author's note that you want to write about the relationship after its start instead of leading up to that. This is fine, but it doesn't absolve you of the need to justify the relationship. It's not enough to throw the two characters together, have them act lovey-dovey, and expect me to believe they work well together or care about them. The easy way to do this is, well, to show the relationship develop. It's fine to start where you did in the timeline, but to have an instant attraction? It's pretty thin. I'm allowing the possibility that you had planned to address this in subsequent chapters through flashback or little details. There are lots of ways to make it work. Pinkie can have a fleeting thought about how Rarity standing in the sunbeam reminds her of the time when X happened and Rarity didn't even know Pinkie liked her yet. These are the things that make it real and make me believe these characters love each other, not just because you tell me they do. It's also necessary to show that they have real chemistry together in their moment-by-moment interactions so they they feel authentic. You actually do pretty well on that front, as they have some nice banter together. But look at what we get: Pinkie goes to Rarity's, keeps ogling her, and then she yearns to kiss Rarity without any sort of supporting evidence as to why she'd feel this way. And then, of course, Rarity instantly reciprocates, because everything's always rosy in real romance. Neither one suspected how the other felt, but they conveniently feel the same way at the same time, and kissing someone when you have no idea if they want it is always a good idea, right?

The viability of the romance is really the long pole in the tent here, but given our yes/no policy, I wouldn't be giving you this level of feedback if I didn't think you could make something special out of this.
>> No. 129894
I don't know that many people actually peruse this thread, so I'll cross-post this in the "Ask a Pre-reader" thread as well. Not that many people peruse that one either...

I enjoy helping writers. For the majority of stories I review, I give lengthy feedback for the purpose of helping those authors improve. I used to do so directly through the email Equestria Daily sends out, but when we changed our standards for feedback last year, I opted to do so here instead. We may be on the eve of another change, but I'm revisiting this policy anyway.

I have no idea how many authors actually use the feedback I give. If I go by the number who actually reply or who resubmit their stories after making changes, the figure is around 10%. Maybe a lot more than that do use my advice and I just don't know it, but given that I spend an average of about 2 hours reviewing each one of these, I can't help but feel like I'm spending a lot of time on an activity that few people use.

So in the future, I may go to a system where I only provide this level of feedback to the people most likely to use it: stories that I feel are close to being acceptable for posting. They're the ones most likely to use this feedback, since they have the end goal in sight. I'd still be available to ask for clarification on any of the stories I review, but since I have a bad memory, this would likely involve rereading your story, and I can't commit to having time for any given request. You might do just as well submitting your story to one of the reviewing groups we recommend—they're pretty good at picking up the same problems that we'd identify.

This is being done so I can get to more stories and reduce the queue wait times, so I'd target feedback to the authors most likely to use it. I'd give a full review to every story if I could, and maybe once the queue size is reduced significantly, I can go back to that, but for now, I need to concentrate on what's likely to produce the most return on my time investment.

Last edited at Fri, Mar 14th, 2014 14:11

>> No. 129916
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129916
>>129894

Hope it's alright to post this here.

I come here pretty often to read your critiques. It helps my own writing when I see so many examples of things writers do well and things they need to work on. This isn't meant to pressure you into continuing if you don't care to; I just wanted to let you know that your efforts are not unappreciated.
>> No. 129919
>>129916
I'm not stopping altogether, just cutting back on the number of stories I do this for. If a story is close to being postable, especially if it's close enough that I'm not giving it a strike, I'll still give feedback here. I just can't do it for every story, for the time being.
>> No. 129927
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>top-floor window
Unless her room rise multiple stories, I don't see how this works.

>hooting of an owl//
During the day?

>32//
Write out numbers this short.

>Six Months Earlier...//
There are much more elegant ways of working this into the narration.

Her reaction to the letter is very... bland. I get that there's a certain numbness that comes in these situations, but I can tell you from experience that if you write an emotionally distant character as emotionless, it gets boring quickly. Better to show the contrast between what's going on inside and what she allows out.

>At the Hospital...//
Yeah... if you're going to alternate like this, even if it doesn't perfectly follow the pattern, it's not hard to drop cues in the narration that handle this nicely, and after it falls into a regular pattern, the reader will even expect it. It's making the story's time frame feel forced on me, a word I certainly wouldn't use to describe the rest of the story's aspects, so it sticks out.

>The nervousness she felt coming back to her parents' old house was always wiped away by Aunt Rosebud's smile.//
While this isn't a bad spot for telling, it's not exactly warming me up to this as a sweet moment, either. Instead of just naming it as nervousness, just a few words of physical symptoms would carry more power, like if a wave of warmth swept away her jitters whenever she saw that smile.

>wrote,//
You don't need the comma. Transcribed text doesn't use the same rules as dialogue.

>thinking this was too strong//
Note how this phrasing is decidedly external to her mind versus something like her just outright stating that it was too strong. You've been using a pretty subjective narrator, and in my opinion, something like that would suit it better.

>she had felt insecure about her circumstances almost daily//
Way too vague. Give me a couple of examples.

>She 's//
Extraneous space.

>You still have your dignity.//
Wow. That's a really insensitive thing to say. It's actually great, but let me see some more reaction to it. Is Rose really able to keep it under wraps like that? Does Lily realize how it sounded? What does Daisy do?

>even though her kiosk was right between their booths//
Comma to set off the dependent clause.

>she wasn't worried about poverty itself. Shame was her great fear, and month by month a nightmare was coming true.//
You're risking being too blunt and over-explaining things here.

>If this exercise was supposed to help her out of her depression//
At this point, wouldn't she still be in denial about her depression? I don't know how you envision Equestrian law, but based on something you said earlier, I'm not sure they can keep her there against her will.

>and we both have things that need saying//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>This was wrong, she thought as he continued.//
But you haven't italicized it as a thought.

>Sonny//
You spelled it "Sunny" earlier.

>who are you ta-.//
Use a proper dash, not a hyphen. And don't put a period after it. The only end punctuation you can put after a dash, and even then, it's optional, are an exclamation mark or question mark.

>Rose collapsed into sobs.//
For strong emotion, less is often more. People usually try to control themselves, under most circumstances. You don't want to be melodramatic.

>You taught me how to love.//
Ooh, that's pretty cliched.

>I wasn't. your only. secret. Was I?//
Using so many periods like this is kind of clumsy, but at least capitalize after them.

>I waited as long as I could, but this hurt was inevitable//
Well, only because he decided it was. Couldn't he have made the ultimatum before he cheated?

>This time the tears wouldn't come.//
Now, this is much more realistic, compared to her sobbing earlier.

>Daisy's look changed from curiosity to concern.//
Show me this. There's a section on show versus tell at the top of this thread. Keep it in mind.

>"They left me."//
Well, yeah, she told them to. You had me feeling sympathetic for her, but she just comes across as whiny here.

>Coldheart//
Oh, come on. Subtlety is a thing.

>would like to visit with you in a few minutes if you'd like//
Kind of a repetitive wording there.

>and everything would be confidential//
Another dependent clause needing a comma. There's some info in this under the section on comma use with conjunctions.

>Gathering all the pages she'd filled with her analysis//
You didn't give me the sense there were many. Aside from one vague statement, I only ever saw a few words mentioned, and there was never anything indicating she'd spent much time on it.

>He then engaged her in small talk for a few minutes before saying good night.//
And how does she react to this? Does it relax her? Make her feel like he's being insincere, or just trying to distract her?

>This wasn't day one of her recovery, Rose thought//
You do this a lot: italicize some thoughts, but not italicize others that are directly named as such. It's a bit jarring.

>began splaying outward as her head began to swim//
Watch the word repetition. And start/begin actions are weak anyway. Once in a while, they won't hurt, but they're also obvious. Any given action starts. It's only worth pointing that out when the beginning is noteworthy because it's an abrupt change or the action never finishes. They also sap some of the action from the main verb.

>Roseluck opened her eyes as the sun was rising.//
I suspect I'll go through and count your "to be" verbs at some point. Suffice it to say they're boring, and it's a good idea to limit them where you can. There are certainly times where a past participle works, but if you changed this to "Roseluck opened her eyes as the sun rose," I don't see that anything is lost. Then you also avoid sapping the action from your verb.

>Glancing toward the doorway, she noticed her new pad of paper beside the bed.//
Beware a few aspects of participles. One is that they synchronize actions, so she sees the pad at the same time she glances toward the doorway. While that's possible, you haven't described the layout of these things in a way that makes it intuitive, and I get the sense that one happens after the other anyway.

>This time doesn't have to be a waste. I can find the issue in my thinking//
This is quite an about-face from her thinking in the previous chapter. If that's intentional, you might want to ease me into it, say, mention how the new day has her taking a fresh perspective on things.

>you can only count on yourself//
Missing end punctuation, but since it's something she's jotting down, it's certainly possible that she would have left it off.

>Rose studied her final list//
Now look at the first word of each paragraph so far. Mix it up.

>But her nervousness was soon displaced by hope//
This is a pretty emotional point for the story. Show me this.

>They looked frantic.//
How so? None of the actions you described seem to convey this. Without convincing me of this through how they look and act, it's more of a cold fact that doesn't get me invested in the characters.

>She grabbed a simple tray of alfalfa and joined them.//
And then this. If her parents really look frantic, she's going to get her food first and keep them waiting? And she's going to be so lackadaisical about it?

>sor- sorry//
No spaces around the hyphens in a stutter.

>I was going through clinical depression.//
This is something I was going to bring up later, in the wrap-up comments at the end, but... Her depression is awful sudden. The implication that she "was going through clinical depression" as of yesterday is a little too abrupt. And this ties in with my problem with her suddenly deciding to attempt suicide. Yes, the events that prompted her depression are sudden, but the feeling itself is a bit more gradual. It's not like flipping a switch. And by giving it more of a forced, artificial treatment like this, you're robbing it of the power it could have.

>Honey, this isn't something you simply snap out of. Getting through this will take time.//
Yes. Likewise with getting into it.

>In fact, I was something of a monster to her.//
I could believe his wanting to apologize, but making an admission lik this really looks like plot convenience. You mentioned that the doctor had already spoken to her friends. Wouldn't he have spoken to her parents, too? Wouldn't he want this interaction to occur in a therapy session, where he could mediate? Or at least prepare her for this discussion?

>We've reconciled and he's loved me ever since.//We've reconciled and he's loved me ever since.//
Another spot where you need a comma between clauses.

>24//
Write it out.

>your doctor is off tomorrow and Monday//
Surely, someone else would have the authority to release her. As expensive as she's said this is, they'd force her to stay an extra two days for no good reason? Not buying it.

>Mom, dad...this wasn't your fault.//
As a term of address, "Dad" would be capitalized. And they don't react to this?

>Rose came away as sure as ever that the cause of her depression lay somewhere else.//
Why is she so intent on self-diagnosing? Isn't this what the doctor's there for?

>topics she had listed – the meaning of life, the importance of her work, and the issue of trust//
Given that you're detailing a list of examples or clarifications, a colon would work better than a dash.

>though given the circumstances of your breakup this week//
You'll normally set off a participle with a comma.

>she spent the rest of the evening drawing pictures of her with her aunt//
First, I'm surprised that you dropped this plot point as long as you had. She certainly felt like it was an important part of her life, but to lose track of it entirely undercuts that sense of importance. I'll also say again that she's making a very rapid recovery. She had certain feelings that drove her to attempt suicide, and they don't go away overnight. Yet she's very upbeat here, especially about the same things that had gotten her depressed in the first place. On the one hand, it's believable that her mood might swing all over the place, but erratically, not this very steady move from wishing herself dead to very optimistic. It's like you're condensing what normally takes weeks into a couple of days.

>9:15//
Write these out, unless it's a digital clock and you want to present it as a quote.

>She had found her balance.//
Again, this is absurdly quick. I'd also question that she'd be allowed to have something sharp like a pencil.

>you need to stay on your medication//
She hadn't been taking any... Don't spring this on me now.

>Well, that was the hard part//
Except... it wasn't. She sailed through all of it with very little trouble.

>Rose glanced at their booths and Lily broke the awkward silence.//
Another comma needed for a dependent clause. I should have pointed out enough of these by now to give you the picture. I'm not going to point them out anymore unless I'm flagging the sentence for another reason anyway.

>Rose discovered she was beaming, her first genuine smile since before the hospital.//
Okay, I really like this scene where she finds all the cards, and prompted by someone she doesn't know very well. This is a nice authientic emotional moment the likes of which I haven't seen since chapter 1.

>Instead her friends looked hurt, even angry. //
Show me!

>Now honey//
Needs a comma for direct address.

>Daisy entered the conversation.//
Well, yes. We can tell by the fact that she speaks. This sentence is the epitome of empty filler.

>Now is the time.//
So, the second half of this scene... I have to admit, his is something I have problems with in my own writing. Everything these characters say is utterly believable. Their emotions and the thoughts they're expressing are authentic, reasonable, and relatable. But how they're saying it comes across as a little too rehearsed. I'd recommend going back over it and rewording things to sound a little more natural and off the cuff.

>a yellow earth pony with an orange mane//
The reader is presumably aware of who Carrot Top is. You don't need this, unless there's something about her appearance that ends up being important to the plot.

>dreaded word suicide//
Since she actually spoke the word, I'd leave it at "dreaded word." It'd be a little more subtle.

>upfront//
Two words.

>Second, I'm not a philosopher//
>Well, here's my philosophy for today//
This is... pretty contradictory. If you're doing it intentionally, Carrot Top needs to be more self-aware about it and call attention to it, probably in a self-deprecating manner.

>But I'm making a new friend, and I wouldn't have it any other way//
The abrupt way you end this scene costs it some of its power. You do go on to have Roseluck reflect on it in the next scene, but what's her immediate reaction here? It de-personalizes it to leave that connection unmade when it's most raw and fresh.

>Obliging her odd request//
Missing an indentation here.

>as if the danger had past//
Passed.

>"Thank you for saving me last week," she said, and they all went inside.//
Same thing here. This is way too understated. Subtlety is a thing, but so is not saying anything. How do her friends react to what she said? What does she think of their reaction?

>She is scared, Lily!//
Minor point, but Daisy's used her name for direct address two quotes in a row now. That doesn't seem natural.

>The next morning//
You tend to do this. <extended scene> <"time passes"> <a very small number of sentences>. And when you do, you tend to short change what happens on both sides of the time skip. How does Rose react to Carrot Top's advice? Is she agreeing just to agree? Does it make sense to her? Then the next morning, how does she feel as she gets out of bed, steels herself to go downstairs and say what she has to say, then speaks up? Definitely don't overstate things—leave something for the reader to intuit on his own, but you have to give me something. Don't make me invent the emotional investment. That's your job.

I will also say that it's a bit odd and convenient that Carrot Top has this expertise. If she has the education, why did she never get licensed? Despite a couple of testimonials in her favor, I'd be curious as to why. For all Roseluck knows, Carrot Top did apply for a license but was rejected. Using her with this almost deus-ex-machina ability smacks of "I need a pony with X expertise, but I really, really wanted to use Carrot Top in the story, so why not force her into that role?" She could use a more realistic background. We can't tell how old she is. Maybe she's a retired therapist? Maybe she writes an advice column on the side? Maybe she was a school counselor until she decided on a career change? I'm just spitballing here, but what you have for her seems pretty contrived.

>and several ponies expressed their delight that Rose was out front again//
Given how much emotional weight this has for her, you should probably give me a little detail. You don't have to do the blow-by-blow account of every customer, but something like a montage of well-wishing would get the point across.

>He. hurt. you.//
I bugged you about this before.

>When some other mare hears word that I was abused//
I guess I'll take her word for it, but I didn't exactly see anything from him that I'd call abuse. Daisy knows him, so maybe she's right, but she's ascribing motives to him that I haven't seen evidence of, and if it's not true, this could unfairly harm him.

It's just now occurred to me that all of Rose's customer interactions have been about flowers as decorations or gifts. They've eaten flowers in canon. Why isn't anyone buying them as food?

>exhibiting the grace and unconditional excellence//
I haven't seen any examples of negative customer interactions, so did this ever come up? It might be interesting to see how she handles it.

>Ponyville's clock tower//
They have called it "Ponyville Tower" in "Putting Your Hoof Down."

>Lily stepped out//
So why is Lily consistently staying out of things now? It says something about their relationship, but I'm left a bit mystified.

>some experimental desserts//
And we don't get to see what any of these are?

>Rebuked, Lily and Daisy looked at each other. "Sure," Lily said.//
Aside from a bit of vaguery from "rebuked" (which is a bit odd in and of itself, since that word choice would tend to be from Daisy and Lily's point of view, not Roseluck's), this is flat and emotionless. They looked at each other? How? In a way that would communicate fury, relief, shame, joy, ...?

>Rose met with Fine Print the next day, and a meeting with her creditors was scheduled for Friday at noon. That day at the steps of the town hall, her friends encouraged her.//
Something about this isn't sitting right. I'm not sure a scene at the lawyer's office would be particularly interesting, unless you can wring some emotion out of it in the form of Rose taking charge of things. But you fast forward here without a scene change and blow through this. I think it'd work better if you did a scene break here and did this part as a summary after the fact.

>A tear of joy trickled down her cheek//
The single tear is one of the most cliched things you could have done.

>nearing the edge of town, somewhere near//
Watch that word repetition.

>What if all those trees were dead and bare, and the animals all gone?//
Maybe not the best analogy... since it's getting to autumn, they will be this way soon, though that doesn't mean it all ends.

>That's how I felt when I lost my aunt.//
And she's never really dealt with this in more than a superficial way. I was looking forward to seeing her work through her attachment to a beloved relative, but if it happened at all, it was off camera.

>lunchtime//
Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I thought you'd spelled this as two words or hyphenated it in a previous chapter.

>The flower shop was closed that day due to a scheduled storm//
They can't do business in bad weather? It didn't seem like it was an outdoor shop.

>Tux 'n Tails//
The contraction has apostrophes on both sides: Tux 'n' Tails. But I have to say, this is a civil suit. The three mares' business didn't exist at the time of the alleged slander, the business wouldn't have been a party to it anyway, since they were private communications, and only one of them is being named as having committed it, so they'd have no grounds to sue either the business or the other two mares. I also don't see how Lady Slipper could be a party to the action either, since the alleged slander had nothing to do with her. I suppose most readers won't know that, but but if you're going to branch out into something that requires a technical understanding, it pays to get it right. Google and Wikipedia are your friends for brief forays into unfamiliar territory.
>> No. 129928
>>129927
>The slander part of that letter is true...sort of.//
Well... the plaintiff will have to prove that it's not true (which I think is the case, though you never explicitly said so) and that the person who said it should have known it wasn't true. The latter would be tough, since she actually did think it was true when she said it.

>or if this case turns criminal//
How would a slander case turn criminal?

>Lily looked Rose's direction//
Missing word.

>They say they already have evidence; let's see it.//
Well, that's one of the first things that'd happen during the discovery process. It wouldn't be a big deal.

>Sunb..., uh, the Plaintiff, won't be happy with anything that would let our business survive.//
Why is she so sure of this? I have to say I'm starting to buy into the slander argument myself. You've certainly gone out of your way to make this guy a villain, but I've never seen him do anything particularly bad. He cheated on her, but he was completely civil toward her, and I never saw him mistreat her. You shouldn't just declare someone a villain—you should show he's one, but keep him relatable, too. Some over-the-top, obvious super-villain would be even worse.

>Lily was searching the lobby with her eyes.//
As opposed to?

>The pegasus reached up and petted Rose's mane.//
"Patted," right? Otherwise, this is kinda weird.

>7//
Write it out.

>Tux replied, "No, Your Honor//
This lawyer is utterly incompetent. He brought a case he had no hope of winning. I was going to save this for the wrap-up comments, but I'll go ahead and say it here. This whole court case feels tacked on and tangential to the point the story was making. It smacks of throwing in more conflict for the sake of conflict (which I will address at the end). But even if it somehow worked, it just fizzles out here. It was never more than a momentary concern, and it wouldn't have made a difference to the story if you had removed it completely. That's a pretty good argument for doing so. I appreciate that you're throwing in a stumbling block so that her recovery isn't all rosy, but you've made a few of those already, and ones more directly related to her problem would be more effective.

>and possibly your freedom//
But... slander is a civil matter...

>I order Sunburst to have no further contact with Roseluck or any other owner of Ponyville in Bloom except with the court's permission//
So... she's pre-emptively slapping a restraining order on him that nobody asked for?

Well, I obviously see something in your story, since I spent 5 days reviewing it in this age of predominantly yes/no responses. So what drew me to your story?

First, I thought the opening chapter was a great, honest look at the kind of despair that leads one to become suicidal. Too many stories we get glorify suicide and/or use it as a gateway to Equestria. Or they deal with it as a constant tragedy that gets hammered at the reader relentlessly. This was grounded much more in realism. It's not without its problems though. All the things I had to point out multiple times? Pay attention to those. Here are additional issues that stood out to me that I wanted to comment on (in an unorganized fashion, as it turns out):

Chapter 1 was very good. It set up her conflict and couched it in terms of this beloved aunt that she'd lost. I was looking forward to some nice memories of times together and working through the pain of it. But you all but dropped that aspect of the story. And to some degree, that's just me editorializing. I think that would be a powerful story, but it's not necessarily the one you want to write. I do think you should have given it more than you did, however. She initially describes that as the source of her pain, and even if she's wrong about that, it severely undercut that initial assessment by having her discard it so thoroughly. I did touch on this once already, but she was awfully quick to go from having a few things go wrong with her life to being suicidal. Don't rush things. It needs to feel like it's progressing at a natural pace. I was going to try and show you that other readers may have had the same reaction, but if I look at the number of views for each chapter (490, 288, 264, 220, 244, 217), it actually looks pretty normal. I would have expected more of a drop-off after chapter 2 due to the abrupt change in tone and rather rapid pace of recovery.

Which is my second point. She goes from utter hopelessness to actively seeking her own betterment in just a few days. Yes, medication has something to do with that, but her mood is different from her attitude, and the latter is really what doesn't ring true here. Yes, she has setbacks, but not of the kind to make her question whether she's doing the right thing. It's a bit much that someone so cheerful just recently wanted to take her own life. Again, don't rush it.

Which leads to my next point: contrast is your friend. I already alluded to bad thing after bad thing happening to her before she goes into the hospital. Look at what you did afterward. She has some lovely moments with her friends after she gets out, interspersed with some little relapses. This is nice, and I'd encourage you to do even more with that. Higher highs ad lower lows complement each other to lend weight to the story. I'd encourage you to do that in the hospital as well (and really, I think she'd be there much longer than that, but if you really want to tell it this way, that's your choice). I don't know if this is a situation you've been through. It's really a surreal experience. You latch onto people you meet in there, but they're obviously relationships based on unnatural circumstances, so they encourage you not to try to maintain those friendships after you get out. But they can make for some nice, light, contrasting moments from her emotional turmoil. If you've never seen it, I can recommend the movie "Girl, Interrupted" as a picture of the ups and downs of this process. I thought it was a great portrayal, and for reasons I won't get into, I've never been able to watch it again. But getting back to the point... Not only does shuffling in some happy moments play to the contrast, it also avoids "piling on," or throwing tragedy after tragedy at the reader in an attempt to make the story more emotional, but almost always has quite the opposite effect.

I pointed out a few spots of telly language, and I think I mentioned that there's a discussion of show versus tell at the top of this thread. It speaks for itself, so I'll just say that this seemed to get worse the further I made it into the story.

Now, a word on repetition. I pointed out a few specific examples, but one particularly noteworthy one is the use of "to be" verbs. These are inherently boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. You should be choosing more active verbs, even when the character isn't actually doing anything. For instance, take "He was there" versus "He sat there." They say the same thing, but one says it in a much more interesting fashion, and you can even substitute other verbs for subtle changes in mood, like lay, idled, sprawled... You get the picture. But of the easiest forms to check, I came up with these counts:
was/wasn't: 253 (with 95 in chapter 1 alone)
were/weren't: 82
is/isn't: 96
be/been/being: 195
That's about one every other sentence. This brings an utter standstill to the feeling that your story is in motion toward some goal.

I already complained about the court case plot point, so I'll just say again that it felt weak, pointless, and an example of the "piling on" I mentioned before. It doesn't help that the whole thing seems to have enough techincal problems to be unbelievable anyway, but it's so extraneous to they story's point, and it really changes nothing. I honestly think the story would be better without it. If you still want to have some sort of confrontation with Sunny, fine, but this isn't working.

And then the ending was pretty weak. The last line had no thematic significance, so there was no stinger there. It didn't wrap up a conflict with a nice bow. It just... ended. Really, the line a way back about her recalling seeing the scenery behind the hospital and thinking it was beautiful—that was a much better way of concluding things. It summed up her new attitude and positive outlook.

I know this seems like a lot, but I don't go into this much depth for many stories, and certainly not for ones that I don't feel are worth the time investment to do so. I'm giving you this level of feedback because I want you to come back with something special that I'd be proud to post.

I'd also encourage you not to try to attach this story to ny specific events in the fandom. I'm glad that you didn't do so in the synopsis or an author's note, but you did in the submission comments, and I have to say as many people who'd think of it as a tribute would also think of it as a publicity grab.

Last edited at Wed, Mar 19th, 2014 17:22

>> No. 129933
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Rarity wrapped her forelegs around the small tree, wincing as the sap melded into her fur.//
Watch the participles. First, writers tend to overuse them, and I already see three in just the first seven sentences. But this one's also a misplaced modifier. It wants to describe the nearest prior object, so it sounds like the tree is wincing.

>I-Is//
Only capitalize the first part of a stutter, unless it's a proper noun.

>squish//
Lose the italics. Narration isn't the place for sound effects, but it's a valid word anyway.

>grit teeth//
The only accepted past tense of this is "gritted."

>out-of-sight//
You only need the hyphenation when the phrase modifies something that's right next to it. You don't need it for a predicate adjective.

>R-Right, mom.//
Again, only capitalize the first. And when using "Mom" as a term of address or like a name (versus a more generic usage, like "my mom"), capitalize it.

>As soon as she was out-of-sight//
Same deal with the hyphenation. I tend to point out only two or three instances, then leave the rest for the writer to find. And so I turn it over to you.

>Velvet was laying calmly and jabbering excitedly//
Three problems here. First, keep an eye on the telly language. I don't think it's hurting here, but it's popped up occasionally. Second, you've confused lay/lie. And third, you're using a lot of these past participles, like "was [lying]." There is a time and place for that tense, but using it too much is unwieldy, and having that "to be" auxiliary verb saps the action from your main verb. Really consider whether this is necessary. I think the previous instance was, but this one isn't.

>along--except//
>go—//
Be consistent in your dash usage.

>She smiled.//
I'm only a couple of screens in, and this is already the 8th time you've used this action. It's getting repetitive.

>mom!//
Again, capitalize it as a term of address.

>And in the center of it all was Pinkie Pie, bags hanging from her eyes, diligently mopping the floors.//
Another misplace modifier. The "diligently mopping..." is so far from what it describes that it seems to refer to her eyes.

>10:30//
Spell it out. You got it right earlier.

>Fluttershy’s face sagged as she hugged a ficus. She just sighed.//
Why? She should be enjoying this, right?

>By the time Twilight made it home, Her brain//
Capitalization.

>the telltale pitter-patter of dragon claws against woods.//
He's... running through the forest?

>She grit her teeth.//
Gritted.

>Gritting her teeth//
And she just did that. It's a common enough action in writing. Beware overusing it.

>T-There//
Think about what sound she would actually be repeating.

>affixing her daughter with a steady gaze//
Phrasing is off here. The direct object of "affix" should be the object being attached. I wonder if you didn't mean "fixed," though.

>Both Velvet, whose mane had been thrown into a mess, and Spike, who was smothered in dust, walked outside to watch Twilight fly off into the night. Their faces were blank.//
By now, I'm noticing an awful lot of "to be" verbs. You need to be choosing more active verbs. This one is inherently boring. It's much more interesting to read about things happening, not just being.

>may-or-may-not//
That's not a hyphenated phrase.

>1//
Spell it out.

>He laid on the floor//
More lay/lie confusion.

>He let out a loud groan as all the furniture in the room slid across the floor, just inadvertently dodging his wife's vanity cabinet.//
This one truly is ambiguous. Is he dodging the vanity, or is the furniture doing it? Grammatically speaking, you're saying the latter.

>S-She//
Same as before—what sound would actually be repeated?

>thump//
Same as before. It's a normal word. Just use it regularly.

>Twilight’s teeth were gritted.//
She does that a lot...

>now shattered//
Now's when you need a hyphen.

>She noticed that, laying on the desk//
More lay/lie confusion. I think all of them I've seen so far are wrong.

>cast her spell, sending the letter-turned-smoke flying out into the air//
She's never done that before... That's Spike's thing.

>Unicorn foals were playing in street below//
Missing word.

>before lying down on her bed//
There you go! Got one right.

>in anyway I can//
In this usage, "any way" should be two words.

>She trailed off,//
You don't need to point this out. I can already tell from the punctuation.

>enforce her barbaric ‘bedtimes’ onto you//
The typical phrasing would just be "on."

>back-and-forth//
Unneeded hyphenation.

>laughing stock//
One word.

>She collapsed into a gaseous form again, and floated past the two mares and out the barred window.//
Missing line break and unnecessary comma (there's no new clause).

>ever-so-slightly//
Unneeded hyphenation.

>she laid her head on the counter//
That one's right too. Getting better at it as you go along.

>Donut Joe//
Wait, this is in Canterlot? What are Lyra and Bon Bon doing there?

>Es tut mir leid.//
In German, all nouns are capitalized. "Es tut mir Leid."

>SMASH//
And this is an egregious example. Just describe the sound.

>Sparkles//
I guess I don't understand why she's taunting Twilight. Yes, she feels left out on the secret, but Velvet was the one giving her grief for it.

Really there's not much wrong here. The only pervasive things I'd say are the abundance of participles and "to be" verbs. Just give this a clean-up pass while you're waiting for it to go through the posting queue.
>> No. 129964
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>silver blue//
Needs a hyphen.

>out-of-place//
And in this usage, you don't need the hyphens.

>Luna saw something out-of-place in this dream world, and knew she had found what she sought.//
You don't need that comma, because you haven't begun a new clause. It's just a second verb for the original subject. You do this a number of times.

>…nopony//
Capitalize when it's not picking up from an earlier sentence that trailed off. You do this a number of times. There are also specific times when a leading ellipsis is even appropriate, so watch how often you do this.

>Why do you lay here alone?//
Lay/lie confusion.

>The filly’s anger faded//
You're on the edge of doing a bit much telling in a couple of places I've seen so far. It fits the mood of the story thus far, which is why I'm giving you some leeway, but when you have a moment where you really want the reader to identify with the character, showing is the way to go. You do so afterward by taking me through some of her body language, but that becomes redundant when you've already told me how she feels.

>Now it made sense, this was a dream she was quite familiar with.//
Comma splice.

>Everypony gets their cutie mark in their own time, you should not think you are alone just because you have yet to receive yours.//
And again.

>B-But//
Only capitalize the first part of a stutter, unless it's a proper noun.

>Luna watched, her smile growing//
This is the first time in a while that I see any action from Luna. You describe Diamond Tiara's body language well enough, but if all Luna does is speak for long stretches, she comes across as cold and emotionless, which isn't the image I gather you were trying to create for her.

This was not a bad story. It's well below our requirements of 2500 words for a one-shot, but we can waive that if we feel the story is good enough. I'd consider doing so, but the conflict resolution is pretty weak here, so it's not a case where I feel that additional word count wouldn't improve the story. There are a couple of questions I'd have about your version of Luna's dream-viewing capability, but that's not germane to the story's quality.

There are a few things that still stand out to me, though. Are you implying that Diamond Tiara is having a change of heart here? If she's that self-aware of her bullying, then does she intend to stop it? It seems like this could have been yet another teaching point for Luna, though it'd obviously cause some discrepancies with canon if this is supposed to take place during the show. Another is that it undercuts the sense of conflict to the story, given how easily Luna solved her problem. It feels more like she found the answer to a vexing question than she underwent some kind of fundamental character change.

This was an interesting interpretation on her character, but it might require some explanation of why she continues to be unkind to her classmates in canon when it seems to trouble her here. I'd also encourage you to invest her dilemma with more gravity than something Luna can solve so quickly. It begs the question of why Diamond Tiara wouldn't have been able to figure out something that simple herself or get someone like her dad or Cheerilee to help. In fact, Luna would probably assume she had, so asking about it would help her narrow down what argument to make. These are just a few ideas I'm tossing out there. Do what you like, but I do think you need to give the conflict more apparent weight.
>> No. 129977
I'm sorry if I'm missing something obvious here, but I can't seem to find any way to submit a story to you for a review request. Is there anywhere you can redirect me so I can send you my work so far? That is, if you're still doing these reviews.
>> No. 129978
>>129964
Hello, I'm the author of this fic. I've revised the story a bit, increased the world count and expanded the interactions. My only question now is, do I need to re-submit it to be considered again?
>> No. 129981
>>129977
This is not a general review thread. This is feedback for stories that were submitted to Equestria Daily.

>>129978
Yes, resubmit through Equestria Daily's form.
>> No. 129982
>>129981
Thank you.
>> No. 130018
>>129891

Hi,

Author of the piece here. Hope I'm getting this messageboard thing right.

A few replies, then:

>I was going to chide you for the preceding infodump, but I decided to let it slide. Then you went and made it superfluous...//

I don't know whether this is a criticism or not. Regardless, the situation plays out like this: Pinkie is ignorant about something. She asks Rarity, so Rarity, being excited about, tells her and gets a little carried away before realising it's something Pinkie should know. I'm not really sure what's wrong with that.

>Overblown lines like this really stretch the story's credibility.//
Are you saying it's out of character for Rarity to be excessively dramatic when she's excited?

That's all for the line-by-line comments. The rest are good, and I appreciate you taking the time to mention the small things. Now, onto the meaty things:

Well, I can cheerfully assure you there won't be any sex scenes. I don't know how strict the EQD policy is on this -- the closest we're going to get is a few references, maybe edging onto fade-to-black stuff (though that's negotiable).

If there's a sticking point, it's going to be this:

> it doesn't absolve you of the need to justify the relationship. It's not enough to throw the two characters together, have them act lovey-dovey, and expect me to believe they work well together or care about them.//

I confess, I'm not sure what you're looking for here. Your comments indicate you want to see the events earlier than the first chapter. But this wouldn't justify the character's feelings by any meaningful definition of the word, nor would it be very sensible -- every piece of fiction has to present some events as given. Nothing could ever get started except at the beginning of the universe otherwise.

If you want to see evidence that they love each other, well -- right now, they don't. As of the first chapter, they fancy each other. The purpose of the story as a whole is to show that they can love each other (in the sense that they can learn to get along and find value in a relationship that outweighs the differences they have). I can't show that at the start without undercutting the story.

If you want to see evidence that they fancy each other ...

>But look at what we get: Pinkie goes to Rarity's, keeps ogling her, and then she yearns to kiss Rarity without any sort of supporting evidence as to why she'd feel this way. And then, of course, Rarity instantly reciprocates, because everything's always rosy in real romance. Neither one suspected how the other felt, but they conveniently feel the same way at the same time, and kissing someone when you have no idea if they want it is always a good idea, right?//

I know this this is ponyfic review and you're obliged to make at least one snide remark before you finish, but this is kinda daft. The supporting evidence worry I've dealt with above (to the degree that I can interpret it). Feeling the same way at the same time is kind of a necessary prerequisite for romance in general. in the real world too. If it didn't happen often, we'd all be screwed.

And you might want to check your caricature. Putting aside the increasing intimacy before the kiss, there are loads of points that indicate Rarity fancies Pinkie. Obviously I can't mention that explicitly, because we're in Pinkie's POV, but it's not subtle. If you can't see that, then I'm at a loss.

So that's our sticking point. I can give you the plot summary and the draft of the next chapter, but with your issues about justification, I don't know if that would do much good.
>> No. 130025
>>130018
>I don't know whether this is a criticism or not. Regardless, the situation plays out like this: Pinkie is ignorant about something. She asks Rarity, so Rarity, being excited about, tells her and gets a little carried away before realising it's something Pinkie should know. I'm not really sure what's wrong with that.
The problem here is that it's unbelievable that Rarity would go off on that tangent. It's purely for the benefit of the reader. She wouldn't say this in a real conversation. You don't explain a subject thoroughly, and then ponder that the person to whom you're speaking would already know the information. And by calling attention to that, she's undercutting her own motivation for saying it, because she's basically admitting that she should have known not to.

>Are you saying it's out of character for Rarity to be excessively dramatic when she's excited?
No, I'm saying that it's a poor match for the tone you're striking through the rest of the story. Maybe you intend to take it in a more silly and random direction in future chapters, but in this one, you've created a serious atmosphere. Lines like this then stick out like a joke at a funeral.

>Your comments indicate you want to see the events earlier than the first chapter. But this wouldn't justify the character's feelings by any meaningful definition of the word, nor would it be very sensible -- every piece of fiction has to present some events as given. Nothing could ever get started except at the beginning of the universe otherwise.
>And you might want to check your caricature. Putting aside the increasing intimacy before the kiss, there are loads of points that indicate Rarity fancies Pinkie. Obviously I can't mention that explicitly, because we're in Pinkie's POV, but it's not subtle. If you can't see that, then I'm at a loss.
>Feeling the same way at the same time is kind of a necessary prerequisite for romance in general. in the real world too. If it didn't happen often, we'd all be screwed.
I'll deal with these all together.

That's not what I'm saying at all, and I explicitly led you through other methods to establish a relationship besides starting at the beginning (not of the universe, though I was hoping that went without saying): via flashback or implication and anecdote. I also said this was linked to where in their relationship they are. If a story deals with a couple long after they've gotten together, then implication and anecdote are the best ways to go. Show the couple basically acting like an old couple, what with all the rapport, inside jokes, and habits that entails. That's how you create chemistry. There aren't such things at the beginning of a romantic relationship, because the characters are still sorting things out, so it takes a different play. One is to show the action leading from the initial attraction to finally getting together. Another is inserting enough flashbacks of important moments in their development to make it well-rounded. And the last is basically a shorthand way of doing flashbacks, like recalling brief images or symbols tied to their important memories together. Pinkie might remark that for years, she's smiled at a special bracelet Rarity made for her every time she sees it. This is supporting material for the relationship.

This is also the most common mistake in shipping stories. It's the difference between a good story and a superficial one. Take the movie Tangled. Flynn and Rapunzel are obviously supposed to be attractive characters, but they aren't exactly drawn to each other immediately. There's a certain amount of curiosity, but not any romance. Each just wants to use the other to achieve some end, but along the way, they notice things about the other that they find endearing. Flynn comes to love her naivete and her childlike wonder. When he sees her dancing at the festival, he finally notices her beyond the one who's keeping the crown he wants. Then when he watches her staring at all the lanterns in the sky, it sinks in. She's everything he is not, and it's what he's been missing in his life. She must notice this. At first, he tried to hustle her along and get the whole thing over with. But by the dance scene, he's not rushing her anymore. She can see the way he looks at her, and then he goes out of his way to give her an exquisite view of the lanterns. She's not dumb. Inexperienced, yes, but she can tell what's going on. And when they (almost) kiss, it's a mutual decision, and neither one questions whether it's right.

Now compare that to the usual pablum that airs on the Hallmark Channel. Two people share a glance at the market, and they're instantly in love, but neither one knows it. They may have a clumsy dinner where nothing goes right, one of them apologizes for it, and the other initiates a kiss, unprompted. Which of those do you think is more memorable?

We see so many romance stories, and the majority follow the latter scheme. It's not that you don't have any outward signs of attraction. It's that none of it convinces me there's anything more here than shallow flirting. There's nothing to convince me that they love each other. No, you don't have to tell Flynn and Rapunzel's story from the beginning. You can dedicate a scene to having Flynn remember the night they went out in the boat. You can simply have Rapunzel see a flower in the vase in their house years later, and then she spends a couple of sentences reminiscing about the time the little girls did her hair up in flowers and Flynn twirled her around in the market square until her feet hurt.

Yes, feeling love at the same time is (usually) necessary for romance, but the real story lies in discovering this fact. You've had Pinkie oblivious to Rarity's signs. At least I read it that way, but you've confirmed it. People who are oblivious as to whether the objects of their affection like them back would try and get at the information. They'd lead the conversation in that direction, maybe get a gift for the other and see how they react, maybe ask them out. They don't wonder "Does she have any feelings for me at all?" and immediately kiss them. That's a good way to get slapped, or at least possibly squelch any reciprocation by being too aggressive. Reasonable people just don't do that. If Pinkie feels that strongly, is that a risk she's willing to take? There are no extenuating circumstances to suggest she had any compelling reason to do so. Rarity's not dying. She's not about to take up with someone else. If Pinkie plays it slower, what would it cost her? Nothing that I can see.

>I know this this is ponyfic review and you're obliged to make at least one snide remark before you finish//
First, I was very complimentary to your story, so I'm not sure what effect you're trying to achieve with passive-aggressive comments. It's not going to incite me to help you any more than I already have, but here I've gone and done it anyway. Make no mistake: my job is to find good stories to post on EqD. If I can help your story become one of those, fine. If not, then it'll save both of us some time. I was being snide to drive home the point that I see this problem of ridiculously convenient circumstances with stories all the time, and you're not going to rise above the masses without addressing it. You can't submit your story to a forum where criticism is implicit, then get thin-skinned when you receive it. This is rather tame, anyway. Try Nicknack's thread if you want some real tough love.
>> No. 130100
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>You're going to need to know what an orrery is.//
This is a mistake. One of the cardinal rules of using jargon is to give the context of what it means. If the first thing the reader has to do is click away from your story, that's a bad thing. It wouldn't be hard to define what an orrery is by example in the story. Edit: and it ends up that you do. So why have this here? It's a huge immersion-breaking thing before I even start the story.

>Sproing!//
And then the first actual word. Don't put sound effects in narration. Just describe the sound.

>Speaking of the timepieces, there was a superfluous amount of them//
"Amount" is used for collective quantities. You want "number," which is also considered plural, so you'll need to match the verb to it.

>if you just so happened//
It's best to avoid addressing the reader, unless you intend to make the reader a character as well and define his role in being there.

>in the habit of making your loaves of bread in the shape of orreries//
While amusing, this is out of place, as it's irrelevant to his comment about the size of the thing. By this point, you've also tallied 15 "to be" verbs in only a few paragraphs. These are inherently boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. They're also sapping all the action from the story. It's a good idea to keep their ue to a minimum anyway, but especially at the beginning of the story, where you want to grab the reader's interest.

>one thousand, two hundred and sixty five//
One thousand two hundred sixty-five. I can forgive him for using improper phrasing, since it might not be his expertise, but you at lease need to spell it right with the hyphen. Same with the instance later in the paragraph.

>Sighing, I opened a drawer in my workbench, carefully removing a simple wooden box.//
Watch the participles. There are two problems here that are common for them. First, they imply concurrent action, so both of them synchronize their actions with the main verb. I get the sense that he would sigh first or at the same time he opens the drawer, but he can't remove the box while he's still opening the drawer. So be careful of the implied time progression. The other issue is that participles like to modify the nearest prior object, unless they start a clause; then, they modify that clause's subject. So this says the workbench is removing the box. It's easy to apply a little logic to sort this out, but if you aren't wary of this structure, you'll eventually write something that's ambiguous or misleading. Say that instead of the workbench, you had a character's name there. I wouldn't know which one you intended to perform the action.

>pay off in the end; not necessarily//
This semicolon is misused. There isn't an independent clause anywhere after it.

>its glow dimming slightly//
This is almost identical to the phrasing you used two paragraphs ago. Watch the repetition.

>miniscule//
And you just used this word not long ago. The more unusual a word is, the more it sticks out when you reuse it.

>a single tear of joy running down my cheek//
This is about the most cliched thing you could have done.

>blaring of my alarm clock//
I was of a mind of an electric clock here, but then you go on to describe the sound as "jingly." "Blaring" connotes a different sound than a ringing.

>I began my job, fixing broken clocks and servicing others.//
Another synchronization issue. He's fixing and servicing multiple clocks at the same time he begins his job. Beginning should only be one of them.

>I rounded a corner and my heart skipped a beat.//
You do this a few times. You can cheat here and there for stylistic reasons, but you generally want to set dependent clauses off with a comma.

>Oh, yeah. I guess I forgot to mention, my name's Gizmo.//
Now you've opened the can of worms I alluded to earlier. This didn't need to be said at all. I can tell that's his name, but now that you've clearly and blatantly involved me in the conversation, I need a motivation to be there, the same as any character would. Why is he telling me this story? What occasion do I have to be with him so he can? Why do I want to hear it? Unless you were prepared to frame the story and justify all this, it might be best to avoid having him speak to me altogether.

>It suits thee well.//
Why are you only going halfway on the old-timey language? The pronouns but not the verbs? (ex: It suiteth thee well.)

>Over those three years we'd actually become pretty good friends.//
>which, for the most part, was kept open to the public by the Princesses//
You're inconsistent at placing commas after introductory elements either is fine, but you ought to keep with one or the other. (Going without is primarily British.)

>Whoa, whoa, whoa. I gotta calm down. I'm sure if I go back and apologize, everything will be alright. These are the Princesses, for pony's sake! It was, therefore, with no small amount of trepidation that I retraced my steps//
Herein lies another problem with addressing me. It can be a tricky prospect to put italicized direct thought in a first-person narration, since the narration itself is essentially that already. But when you have the second statement in a form which connotes telling me the story as a recollection some time after the fact, and then he relates direct thought as direct thought, it loses believability as a method for delivering the information. Tagged direct thought is okay, because it still creates narration of of the thought, if you must. But you've made this a story where the narrator is sitting there telling it to me, so the whole thing has to be credible as a conversation (albeit one-sided), and you can't speak italics, so there has to be some spoken cue for the italics, like an "I thought" tag on it, or better yet, just put it as indirect thought in the narration.

>a faux-leather loveseat in which Princess Luna laid//
Lay/lie confusion.

>placing a hoof gently on her shoulder//
That's awfully forward. I don't see someone touching royalty without permission.

>Everypony still thinks us a monster.//
If you're going to use the royal "We" and "Us," shouldn't you capitalize them?

>She sobbed.//
Yes, and for the third time in four paragraphs, I might add.

>I, like every other pony in this forsaken land//
This sounds awfully rehearsed for something he's scrounging for on the spur of the moment. It's not coming across as natural.

>her face twisted in confusion//
Better to get me to deduce confusion through your description of how she looks and acts than to tell me outright. There's a section on show versus tell at the top of this thread that explains.

>Thou actually thinketh//
So sometimes you do use archaic forms. You need to be consistent, and you need to get them right. "Thou actually thinkest..."

>Yes Ma'am!//
Missing a comma for direct address, and "ma'am" wouldn't be capitalized.

>your Majesty//
The whole thing is an honorific. Capitalize both words.

>The clock's glass facing was completely shattered; the hour hand was lying on the floor and the second hand was bent.//
While the grammar is fine with the semicolon here, I can't say the flow is. A semicolon usually shows two closely related thoughts or a cause-effect relationship. This is more like a list.

>It was good though, the task gave me time to mull over what’d happened.//
Comma splice.

>thou hath//
"Thou hast." C'mon. If you're going to use something in a story that you're not familiar with, do a little research.

>It's a trio of interlocking gears, the largest brass, the smallest gold, and the middle silver.//
How can he tell? They're not actually metal, and their colors are pretty indiscernible from many other metals. Plus they're not particularly strong or durable metals, so wouldn't be the best choice for machine parts.

>We... Trust no word of this incident will leave this study?//
Why is "trust" capitalized? It's a continuation of the sentence, not the beginning of a new one.

>a single tear rolled down her cheek//
Oh, good. Another one of these.

>wits end//
Needs an apostrophe. It doesn't matter whether you treat it as singular or plural.

>What is a horse, anyway?//
You mean like the "Hearts As Strong As Horses" song the CMCs sang in "Flight to the Finish"? And using the word "horseshoe" in many instances? Yeah, they clearly have no idea what a horse is.

>Prench//
They have used the word "French" in canon.

>You know, we are ponies//
How does that change whether or not it's disrespectful to make faces at them?

>The door opened further, admitting her head.//
Her head's already in the room. Wouldn't this be letting it out?

>Her chambers came as no surprise to me//
Just because something isn't moving doesn't mean you can't use an active verb to describe it. Just look at the sheer number of "to be" verbs in this paragraph. Seven total, you use some unneeded passive voice, and you have three "there was/were" phrasings to tell me what's in the room. This paragraph brings any motion the story had to an utter standstill.

>What is it that thou so greatly need to discuss?//
>Now, what doth thou need?//
>thine visit//
>thou hath told me//
>Thy thoughtfulness knows no bounds, it seems.//
>thine misunderstanding//
Archaic language errors again. Seriously, if you're going to use this, learn to do it right.

>It is... Marvelous.//
Same deal with the ellipsis again. You don't capitalize after it unless it necessarily starts a new sentence, but the syntax here allows for a continuation.

>Wouldyoudomethehonorofacompanyingmetolastrance?//
This is very ungainly to read. You don't want to slow the reader down, particularly in this case, since it's the precise opposite of the effect you want to create. Just use the narration or the speaking verb to show how he says it instead of relying on visual effects.

It should be pretty obvious by now what needs work. Learn how to use the archaic language correctly, and take a torch to your "to be" verbs, for starters (a rough count of the most common forms yielded 155 in the first chapter alone. That's a rate of about one every other sentence. This is astronomical (heh). And please stop with the single tears. Basically, if I had to mention anything more than a couple times, it needs attention.

Now, I can understand why you wouldn't know this, since you're new at writing in this fandom. But the generalities of the plot here are ones that we see all the time. This is common for shipping stories, so they have a harder time standing out from the crowd, and that's really what they have to do to get accepted here. You fall into a couple of common pitfalls for such stories. First, the story is all about getting them to that first date, first kiss, marriage proposal, or what have you. That's not where the relationship ends; that's where the interesting part really begins, but stories that have such a stopping point are a dime a dozen. Certainly, the gift he's made for her and the general quality of the writing are points in your favor, but still, the story arc is one we've seen any number of times. What also tends to happen in these stories is that the object of our protagonist's affection immediately and fully reciprocates the feeling, which is not only cliched, but takes away much of the interest in seeing things develop. I never get any picture at all of why she likes him, and from his end, there's nothing more than a physical attraction discussed. It's also very light on the conflict. There are some vague ones: whether he'll work up the courage to ask her out, whether she'll accept, what she'll think of the gift. But the only one that's not a foregone conclusion is how she'll take his initial reaction to her, but it's resolved nearly as quickly as it's introduced, so it has no teeth. What would he have done if she had turned him down? How has either one changed as a result of this experience? We don't know, because we're taken right up to the moment that change might start to occur, then whisked into the future, where we get a nebulous back story that does little besides try to ratchet up the emotion. This is a pleasant enough scene, but it's not really a story with a message to take away.
>> No. 130101
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>A stallion pony in Manehattan was dreaming of a cute filly//
Given that stallion --> adult and filly --> child, this is rather disturbing.

>Luna looked among the children, confused.//
A danger with participles is that in can be ambiguous what they describe. They like to latch onto the nearest prior object when used like his, so you're saying that the children are confused. I believe you meant for Luna to be, though. In any case, it's unclear.

>these children were as happy as could be and the dream was a paradise//
Needs a comma for the dependent clause. There's a section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread. You do this a number of times.

>closed they blended in perfectly//
This is a rather awkward phrasing.

>She knelt on the grass before the filly, drawing her hooves under herself.//
Here's another ambiguous participle. Grammatically speaking, it's the filly who draws her hooves under herself, but I believe you meant Luna.

>The filly glared at the ground and stomped a hoof on it.//
That's an odd action for a pony who isn't standing.

>I bought out all the seats in a restaurants//
Typo.

>her expression, a combination of perplexion and disapproval//
I'm seeing a bit too much of this, too. There's a section at the top of this thread about show versus tell that will explain.

>This filly didn't need lecturing, that wouldn't dispel this nightmare.//
Comma splice.

>"This is your dream," Luna reminded.//
"Remind" is a transitive verb. It requires a direct object.

It's inevitable that some new errors would crop up when you added that much word count to a story, so I'm not surprised at finding new ones to point out.

There are quite a few to be verbs in here. For the easier ones to search on, I counted 86, which is about one every other sentence. These are inherently boring verbs and bring the action to a standstill. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. You ought to be choosing more active verbs.

I still have an issue with how much Diamond Tiara is actually changed for the experience. You've definitely made some progress on that front, and think the story's improved for it. DT's basically learning two lessons here: how she can effectively use her talent and that she needs to be nicer to her classmates. On the former, Luna makes a nice generalization about how she could do that, but, for example, it might show more of a change on DT's part if she put forth a few ideas of how she might accomplish that. Does anything immediately occur to her that she could do? Her exact reaction will depend on whether you still see her as misguided. This could range from simply saying she wants to pay for a party at the end of the school year to rubbing her hooves together and thinking she'd be the envy of the class if she held a brunch at an exclusive restaurant for them. There are a number of ways you could play it, along with Luna's reaction, from happy to "That's not quite what I meant" to just rolling her eyes and deciding to let it go. On the latter issue, her treatment of her classmates, she's apparently going to apologize to her friends within the dream, but what about real life? Is this just something she' doing because Luna is right there, or has the lesson actually sunk in? Is this something she intends to work on in real life? Certainly, with her personality, I wouldn't expect a sudden and dramatic change of attitude—it's more a case of whether she's just paying lip service or actually got the message.
>> No. 130105
>>130101
I will take into mind the issues with the story's mechanics. However, I will not revise the content any further than this.

I wanted to leave some things ambiguous and up for reader interpretation, I felt it made the story more thought-provoking and engaging when I left it for readers to think for themselves how this fanfic ties into DT's canon personalities. While I understand you are advising me with intent to improve the story, on my end it is weakening it. It's not the story I wanted to tell anymore.

If this is a problem, I respectfully withdraw it from the ED submissions. I would rather fail my submission and preserve it as I wanted it to be than pass and have readers read something I cannot stand by as an author anymore.
>> No. 130109
>I'll deal with these all together. ... //

Okay, I think we're still miscommunicating. I'll have another go.

As best I can tell, your main issue (putting aside some peripheral stuff) is this:

> It's not that you don't have any outward signs of attraction. It's that none of it convinces me there's anything more here than shallow flirting. There's nothing to convince me that they love each other.//

Well, no. Of course not. They've only just had their first kiss! I don't want you to think they love each other. I want you to think they ... well, as I said before, fancy each other. There isn't meant to be anything beyond shallow flirting at this point.

You mention Tangled. I haven't seen it, but from the description, it looks like the same sort of romance you see in the recent spate of Disney/Pixar and Dreamworks films: The leads grate on each other but are forced to work together anyway. They find a few things they like about each other, maybe have a silly argument to increase the tension, then finally get together, kiss, and live happily ever after. From where I'm standing, this isn't realistic in the slightest. They're paint-by-numbers romances, designed to give the audience the warm'n'fuzzies. Now, I don't want to demean these films. Some are excellent. But I see no real love in there.

I'm deliberately avoiding a story like that. I want a story where the first kiss *doesn't* signify love. That comes later. That's what the story as a whole will be about. In some ways, yeah, the story is going to be structurally similar to a get together story -- starting off shallow with the trials in the middle forcing the characters to figure out whether they really can love each other -- and I'm just moving some of the furniture around to make it better resemble a real life romance. This means that if I were to move true love to the start, I'd undercut the entire structure of the story. There'd be no conflict and no tension, just some stuff that happened.

Maybe I'm being too ambitious. Maybe you think I'm failing to communicate this departure by having the first chapter resemble a crummy get-together tale all by itself ... but I'm kinda relying on you, as an experienced pre-reader, to see that *obviously* the first chapter won't have the peak of emotional tension.

>First, I was very complimentary to your story, so I'm not sure what effect you're trying to achieve with passive-aggressive comments./

Woah woah woah. Get off your high horse and back up a moment. It's always a bore when people on the internet take issue with each other's conduct, so I'll keep this short. You were snide. I called you snide. There's no veiled hostility there -- the little there is is out in the open.

If you want to know why: Damn nigh everyone seems to feel the need to be a least a little bit unpleasant when criticising someone else's work. Because they think it's witty or it constitutes honesty or some other dumb reason. And I'm frigging tired of it. You were doing pretty well at being forthright without being uncivil until that last bit of sarcasm. To be honest, it came as a bit of a disappointment, so I decided to call you out on it.
>> No. 130110
>>130109
>Maybe I'm being too ambitious. Maybe you think I'm failing to communicate this departure by having the first chapter resemble a crummy get-together tale all by itself ... but I'm kinda relying on you, as an experienced pre-reader, to see that *obviously* the first chapter won't have the peak of emotional tension.
No, given that you haven't gotten to the main conflict promised in your synopsis, I wouldn't expect this to be the high point of your story. And I see you're not above being snide yourself. If you care to look through the other reviews in this thread, you'll see that I only use stronger language when I see the author making the same mistake over and over again. If that's what it takes to break someone of a bad habit, so be it. In any case, I've already spent 3 hours giving you feedback, and I don't seem to be getting anywhere, so I'll be very brief:

Someone who is just deciding she has feelings for someone else and who has no idea whether her love interest returns those feelings in the least is not going to kiss that person. This is not realistic. It's hopelessly cliched, and having the exact situation occur simultaneously from the other side is doubly so. This may not be your story's main conflict, but that doesn't mean you get to short-change it, particularly when it is the main conflict of this chapter. To use your own language and mood, you got "tired of it" when you took offense to my tone. Well, 9 out of 10 shipping stories we get contain this glib type of get-together, and I'm tired of it. That's a big factor in why they get rejected. You may not like Disney movies, but what they do right, at least the recent ones, is give the relationship substantial investment so that the viewer knows the full weight of what the characters have put into it. That realization creates a stake that the viewer has in it as well. You can't just cram two characters together and expect the reader to invent the impetus behind their relationship for you.
>> No. 130111
>>130105
I can certainly appreciate the desire to be vague about some things in a story, and it can be a powerful tool. But the problem here is that you're being vague about whether the story has a point. If Diamond Tiara doesn't gain any new insight on her cutie mark and she goes back to being the same bully she always was, then none of the characters in the story have changed, and the conflict gets undermined because it's had no effect on anyone. Without character growth or conflict resolution, you don't have a story. There are still ways you can keep things vague. For instance, if DT makes an earnest apology to the children in her dream, but Luna goes on to wonder whether DT will act on it when she wakes up or just dismiss it as fantasy, then we see clear potential and intent for change, since it does happen in the dream, but don't know whether it actually occurs once she wakes up. That's probably not the best way to handle it, but if you think you can do something to address this, I'd be happy to work with you on it.
>> No. 130112
>>130111
In my original revision the potential was already there in my view. The fic is not meant to say "here's a story of why DT is so mean and how she gets over it", that's not the story I wanted to tell. I wrote the story in the mindset that DT bullies other ponies to marginalize them and make herself feel better, but coming right out and saying it is boring. I left it out so readers could read between the lines, and so I could focus on what I wanted to write about.

It's a story exploring her cutie mark, its potential meanings, and how she feels about it. That's the entire point of the symbolism of her featureless appearance in the dream, she feels she has no identity because she places such high value on cutie marks and her own is unimpressive - hence Luna seeing her cutie mark as just a black dot. The story doesn't explore the reason for her bullying in a direct manner, it explores her own psyche and view on herself, and I wanted readers to draw their own conclusions about how this is reflected in or by her bullying other ponies.

Your suggested revisions entirely change the focus of the story from what I intend.

Last edited at Sat, Apr 5th, 2014 20:02

>> No. 130119
>>130100
Thanks for your help, 63.546. I'll get to work on those immediately. I'm assuming that my story could feasibly be posted to EQD if I fix my errors/inconsistencies, due to the fact that you critiqued it this deeply. I have a question. If I do fix all these errors (and assuming I don't create any more in the process), will the story be approved?

Another question: I don't plan on actually /adding/ to the story. I /do/ plan on rewriting the entire middle scene, a huge portion of the last scene, and most of the epilogue, though. I'll also be introducing a bit more conflict. So, given your comments about the real business being after the first date, will not adding anything after the first date automatically disqualify me?

Thanks,
Unimpressive Vagaries
>> No. 130121
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Only a short way in, and I'm already seeing a few tics you could do without. I'll take them in order:

You have four "to be" verbs in your opening paragraph. These aren't horrible words, and it's not unusual by the luck of the draw that a paragraph here and there might have as many. but in general, they're boring verbs, since they tell me what is, not what happens. You don't want boring verbs in your opening paragraph especially, but it's a good idea to minimize them throughout the story.

Take this sentence:
"Rarity sighed as she walked along in her fabulous dress, thinking back on the day's earlier events with both regret and embarrassment."
Participles like to modify the nearest prior object when you use them this way. So you're saying that the dress was thinking on the day's earlier events. I can certainly apply a bit of logic and sort it out, but if instead of the dress, you'd had a character in the sentence there, it would be ambiguous whom the participle described. So be careful with those. You've also got some telly language here. I have a section explaining that at the top of this thread. Basically, unless it's really unimportant to the story, it's better for you to get me to figure out that she's embarrassed and regretful through her appearance and actions instead of telling me outright.

And a little later:
"Such thoughts were quickly banished"
Passive voice has its place, but it's yet another way of sapping the action from your verbs. For the same reason, near the beginning of the story isn't a good place for it. It can be used for effect to shift the sentence's focus, but there's not a compelling reason to do so here.

Moving on...

>Trenderhoof//
He asked her to call him "Trend" the first time. Why would she revert to this?

>uncomfortable only for the silently pining mare//
Your perspective has been with Rarity so far, but how would she know it wasn't uncomfortable for him? You have to keep in mind what your perspective is so you don't say something the character couldn't know.

>erstwhile, unintentional//
These are closer to hierarchical than coordinate adjectives. You don't need the comma.

>I'm sure Big Mac'll have some set aside for us." Applejack replied with a chuckle//
Dialogue punctuation.

>She allowed her posture to relax//
>savouring each and every drop as only an Apple knows how. She glanced around to see that few ponies now remained due to the increasing lateness of the hour, which would make it easier to talk, thankfully.//
See how these statements are necessarily from different viewpoints? And thy're in consecutive paragraphs, with no transition between the two. You can switch perspective, but you have to do it smoothly, and you have to consider whether it's even necessary to do so. Is this information vital? Could Applejack's sentiment be rephrased so it shows how Rarity reads it from her behavior? Or vice versa? There's a section on head hopping at the top of this thread that explains.

>down-//
Please use a proper dash, not a hyphen.

>y'all//
As a fully licensed southerner, I can say it's quite rare to see this word used as a singular term.

>it's you, Rarity//
This is the second time in the paragraph Applejack uses her name for direct address. People just don't do this very often in real conversation. It makes their dialogue feel a little artificial.

>"I'm a few things, Rarity, but unless you're involved then "fabulous" ain't normally one of them."//
If you have a quote nested inside another one, use single quotation marks for the inner one.

>"I did wonder," Rarity nodded//
How do you nod a sentence?

>How about you come and sleep in the other guest bedroom tonight, it's quite a walk in the dark back to the Boutique.//
Comma splice.

>Aunt Orange is bound to have something you can use, she always packs spares of that sort of thing.//
And again.

>little snippets and half-conversations that didn’t really adding up to anything of merit//
Typo.

>after all,” at which she winked at Rarity, who blushed at the compliment, “but anything//
There's no speaking verb in your attribution. It looks like you're trying to put a narrative aside in a quote. If so, here's how to do it:
after all—” she winked at Rarity, who blushed at the compliment “—but anything
if the speech stops for the action or:
after all”—she winked at Rarity, who blushed at the compliment—“but anything
if it doesn't. As you seem to employ British usage, you could hav spaced en dashes in place of the unspaced em dashes.

>‘Course//
Three problems here (on only one word, no less!). The apostrophe is backward. Smart quotes are bad at this, and you often have to put two single quotes in a row and delete the first to get a proper leading apostrophe. However, this word doesn't need one. You're eliminating an entire word, not some letters. Thirdly, you have mixed quotation mark styles in your story. You had the simple type early on, but the fancy type here. That leading apostrophe thing only pops up for the fancy quotes, so if that's what you decide to use throughout, you'll have to go back and fix those. But make your quotation mark style consistent.

>that most unfathomable of desires: a best friend’s older brother//
How is this unfathomable? I'd say it's fairly common.

>(and her mind, as best she could)//
Parentheses really work best for first-person narration or very subjective third-person.

>She nodded, happy with her summation, before glancing at the clock and laughing slightly.//
Indentation is off here.

>believe!//
Normally, you'll italicize ! or ? when they're on an italicized word or letter.

>Rarity had been so sure she would be able to win over his affections, too!//
She didn't get the message last time?

>laidback//
laid-back

You have a pretty good sense of who Rarity and Applejack are, so it comes through in their dialogue. That's not a minor thing to get right.

You had a few comma splices and questionable speech attributions, and a few spots of nested quotes. Some telly language here and there... really, the most pervasive things were the flighty perspective and the overload of "to be" verbs. Of the easiest forms to search on, I found 91, which is a rate of about 2 every 5 sentences.

Lastly, while this makes for a nice scene, it doesn't have the character growth or conflict of a story. The only slight conflict is this discussion about what kinds of stallions Applejack and Rarity like, but all that really happens is that Rarity decides her standards may be worth keeping. It doesn't take a struggle for her to get there, either, and it's the exact attitude she had at the beginning of the story. So there was never anything at stake, nothing that could have turned out badly, and no change in any of the characters. It really takes one or more of these to put some impetus behind what happens and make me come away from the story with a message.
>> No. 130122
>>130112
It's certainly your prerogative to decide what you want to do with your story, but I hope you can see where I'm coming from. You set up a conflict, then drop it. It's like if Frozen had ended right when the sisters finally met, leaving it up to you to decide what the outcome was. It'd be unsatisfying, and a bad use of my time just to leave things as they were when I started.
>> No. 130123
>>130119
What you've described could certainly improve things, but as with any story, the proof is in the execution. I can't guarantee anything beforehand, and I might not even be the pre-reader who takes it on the next go-around.
>> No. 130124
>>130122
I see where you're coming from, and I am not adverse to revising the story further. But not the way you're asking, if you have any other suggestions I'm open to them.
>> No. 130127
>>130121
Thank you for your review, you've certainly raised several good points. I didn't realise that most of the formatting/punctuation things you mentioned were even there! Quirks of Microsoft Word's interaction with other programs and word processors, I suppose.
From what you've said, if I understand correctly, even with your suggested changes my story would still be unlikely to "make the cut", as it were? Ah well, I can live with that as you've explained it well.
Thank you anyway.
>> No. 130128
>>130127
I can't say unequivocally whether it would or would not make the cut, because it really depends on what you change and how. The big thing this needs is some real conflict. I'm not necessarily recommending this, because it's pretty cliched, but say Applejack teases out of Rarity that she has such high standards as a rationalization for keeping herself from ever finding someone to date, because deep down she feels she's not worth it. Then Rarity convinces her she is. That's a very pat thing, though certainly workable if written well. But that's what it takes. Have a character that stands to gain or lose something, or who changes in some concrete way.
>> No. 130130
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>She couldn’t remember how long she’d been walking//
Minor thing, but I usually recommend trying to stay away from "to be" verbs in the first couple of paragraphs in order to strike an active tone immediately. It's more interesting. Now, this is the only one you have up here in the early going, so it's not a disaster, but it's also one that would be easy to remove. I'd also encourage you to use a more descriptive verb than "walk" here, maybe "trudge" or "plod."

>The viscid earth//
Two issues here. First, in the fluid mechanics world, we do use "inviscid," but we never use this word, always "viscous." YMMV depending on how you might have encountered it before, but that leads to my other point: Your narrator is shadowing Scootaloo, so it's a good idea to keep to language that she might be expected to use herself, even if you don't take on her voice explicitly. And I don't believe she'd know this word.

>pop//
Lose the italics. It's a valid word as is, and you don't need sound effects in the narration, anyway.

>Panting//
You're starting this sentence with a participle when you just ended the previous sentence with one. It creates a repetitive feel.

>exhaustion dulled her fear//
You're in a gray area here, but I think it'd be a little more effective to show me symptoms of her exhaustion rather than just mentioning it as a fact.

>Growling softly, she hauled another hoof up from the slimy muck, wrinkling her nose as it came free.//
Two more participles, and in a single sentence. Many inexperienced writers overuse these, so keep an eye out. You don't want to appear to be one of them. They also synchronize actions, so you have all three of these happening at once. For that matter, the "as" clause does the same thing, so you have four concurrent actions, where it doesn't appear you actually intended that.

>My hooves were all muddy and I couldn’t run right.//
Needs a comma for the dependent clause.

>other, less identifiable, shapes//
You don't need these commas.

>Scootaloo's heart leapt into her throat. “Aaah!”//
Here's a spot where synchronization is actually called for. These would reasonably happen at the same time.

>princess’//
This has become acceptable due to common usage, but the traditional usage would be "princess's." The strongest argument I can make for it is that people who use this common form are inconsistent about it. Would you say "the boss' office" or "the boss's office"? Even people who would write it the first way still speak it the second way.

>Reaching a grime-covered hoof out tentatively//
I'm only one screen into the story, and I've already counted ten participial phrases.

>pointing at the bog as she began to sniffle//
One of my missions in life is to break people of using "start" and "begin" actions when they aren't needed. It's another thing that inexperienced writers do too often. Any given action begins. It's only worth using them when the beginning is abrupt or the action never finishes. Or perhaps when it serves to characterize someone. The extra issue here is that you synchronize the beginning with the pointing, so the pointing ends when the beginning ends, which is... vague and confusing.

>but it always seeks to escape//
>It seeks to reclaim you.//
Repetitive phrasing.

>A smile stretched slowly across Luna's face.//
For a little while now, your perspective has been unclear. You don't have to have one, but it creates a closer connection to the reader when you do, which is a plus in a piece that speaks to emotions like this one. I bring it up here because you seemed to be taking Scootaloo's perspective early in the story. She was your only option, of course, but the narration did seem to dip into her head. But here, the perspective seems to float outside both of them. You haven't really touch ed on Luna's feelings at all, but you're not with Scootaloo anymore—she just closed her eyes, so she can't see this.

>as arcs of glowing magic leapt between the princess’ hooves. The air thrummed with power as the energy coalesced into a ice-blue helmet//
You're using quite a few of these "as" clauses, too.

>Scootaloo gasped, her stomach still somewhere on the ground below. “Wow, you’re even faster than Rainbow Dash!” Laughing, she felt the skin on her face rippling as Luna pumped her wings, propelling them ever-faster into the open sky.//
See, this is very much in Scootaloo's perspective. I'd urge you to put a little phrase here and there throughout the story to color things through Scootaloo's eyes. It'll keep the perspective consistent instead of vaguely wavering between her and an omniscient one. The "ever-faster" doesn't need a hyphen, and it's fairly repetitive with the "even faster."

>Her grin widened//
It's ambiguous whom this describes.

>she threw her hooves out, and relished the silky caress//
You don't need that comma. It's not a new clause, just a second verb for the original subject, and one that's not complex enough to need a comma to keep things organized.

>helix//
Another example of a word choice that's probably too advanced for Scootaloo's perspective.

>but she couldn’t help but notice//
Repetitive phrasing. Try "but she couldn’t help noticing."

>The words were soft; a caress.//
Semicolons are a formal enough structure that it really feels out of place to use them with stylistic fragments.

>each of us suffer//
"Each" is treated as a singular term, so match your verb to that.

>She was more…” Scootaloo twirled her hoof, searching for the word. “... worn down or something.//
Looks like you're trying to put a narrative aside in the quote. Here's how:
She was more—” Scootaloo twirled her hoof, searching for the word “—worn down or something.
if the speech stops for the aside's action and
She was more”—Scootaloo twirled her hoof, searching for the word—“worn down or something.
if it doesn't. I also noticed by chance that the first of these two ellipses is a single character, while the other is three separate dots. You chould do a search and replace of one for the other. It doesn't matter which version you keep.

>She wiped her eyes, throwing her hooves around the princess.//
Here's another example of synchronization gone awry with a participle. She can't do both of these at the same time.

>forever more//
One word.

>She took Scootaloo’s cheeks in her hooves, staring directly into the filly’s eyes.//
This is not a bad instance, but it does illustrate another danger of participles. They like to modify the nearest prior object when they don't begin a clause, so strictly speaking, you're saying that her hooves are staring. I can sort this out with a bit of logic, but if you aren't careful, you will eventually write something that's ambiguous or misleading.

>And at the cliff’s edge, she leapt.//
Well, I'm coming dangerously close to "this is how I would have written it" instead of "this is how it needs to be written," but I would have had Rainbow there with her, if only because she's taking a stupid risk otherwise, and I can't imagine that's the message Luna wanted her to take away from her dream. Dash can be sitting there on the ground, so she's not acting like she'd better baby Scootaloo through it or it won't work. That'd be a powerful statement on Dash's part, I think. What troubles me here is how Scootaloo still thinks about her aunt. Luna's given her a plausible explanation of how the aunt has acted, but she seemed uninvolved or even encouraging Scoot to leave her. I have to think there'd be legal hoops to jump through, but Scootaloo is being very dismissive of someone who may just not know how to show her love. And it also places quite an onus on Dash to have Scoot suddenly say she needs to take full responsibility for her, with Luna's blessing, no less.

Other than that, my only issues are mechanical, but they're pervasive enough that I do want you to make an earnest sweep for them. And yes, I do want to see this posted. The main things are the overload on participles, "as" clauses, and "to be" verbs. It's too ungainly to count participles, but suffice it to say they're everywhere. You have 48 instances of "as." While they're probably not all used in that sense, the majority are, and it did stand out to me as a repetitive structure. And of the easier forms to search on, I counted 138 "to be" verbs, which is a rate of about once every three sentences. Not awful, but could use a little cleaning up.

Last edited at Tue, Apr 8th, 2014 21:32

>> No. 130139
I'm not above being snide, no. And it's perfectly reasonable for you to call me out if you think I was being unfair.

>Someone who is just deciding she has feelings for someone else and who has no idea whether her love interest returns those feelings in the least is not going to kiss that person. This is not realistic.

First, I want to note that that "The kiss was unrealistic" is a different problem than "The characters aren't acting like they're in love", even if they're related. I thought the latter was your main problem, which is why I went after it in my last post. (Though in fairness, you said both, so it was an oversight on my part).

In any case, this problem is misguided too. Let's grant for the sake or argument that it's unrealistic to have one character kiss another if they're uncertain of how the other feels. Does this affect the story? Nope. Pinkie is uncertain. And she *doesn't* kiss first. Rarity does. (I hope it's obvious that Rarity very much is aware of how Pinkie feels by this point.) High-risk kissing might be a problem you see a lot, but it's not relevant in the slightest to this story.

(There's other stuff I could chase after, but I'll leave it for the moment because most of it looks tangential and I agree that brevity is the best policy.)
>> No. 130146
>>130130
Thank you for all of this. I'll see about getting with an editor and parsing through it.

My only really comment on it is the advice at the end. You're calling for Rainbow to be there with Scootaloo because of the risk that she's taking, but she's not really risking anything. She's over the water, close enough to see the bugs that the fish are eating. So, maybe ten to fifteen feet up. She's not in any danger. I've had several readers comment about that, as they were confused as well, so there is room for improvement, but I think bringing other ponies in is a little drastic.
>> No. 130147
>>130146
Fair enough. All I noted was mention of a cliff, so I had something rather high envisioned. If I'm not the only one to point that out, it could probably stand some clarification, but that would be a reasonable thing for her to do if it's not a dangerous drop-off.

The only other thing I'd caution you about with regard to Scootaloo's aunt is that you don't want to add needless tragedy to an already sad story. We refer to that as "piling on." So not only is Scoot angsty about flying, but she's also a neglected child. It's certainly reasonable that Scoot would react to her that way, as children make such knee-jerk leaps, but having everything go wrong that possibly can makes it look like you're taking an obvious grab for the reader's heartstrings, where doing the opposite may carry even more subtle power. Plus if Luna really thinks Scootaloo was mistreated, I don't know that she'd forgo taking action in real life against the aunt.

Just food for thought. You do a good job of thinking things through, so I trust you can come up with something suitable.

Last edited at Wed, Apr 9th, 2014 18:25

>> No. 130148
>>130139
>Let's grant for the sake or argument that it's unrealistic to have one character kiss another if they're uncertain of how the other feels. Does this affect the story? Nope.//
I'd say it unequivocally does affect the story. Few things break reader immersion more quickly than a character behaving in an unrealistic manner, even if it's a minor one who only appears in a single paragraph. That's just twisting the character for plot convenience instead of putting thought into how the character would naturally react to the situation.
>> No. 130154
>I'd say it unequivocally does affect the story.

I know I'm a pain in the arse and all, but could you at least grant me the respect of reading the whole post?

Again: The criticism doesn't affect the story because a kiss like that doesn't occur in the story.
>> No. 130155
>>130154
I'd appreciate it if you read the entire post as well. I'd quoted your hypothetical instance.
>> No. 130158
>>130155

Now I'm completely lost. Let's try this again. As I understand it, you current criticism is:

It is unrealistic to have Character A kiss Character B if Character A doesn't know if Character B has feelings for them.

Is that a correct summary of your criticism?

IF SO, it doesn't apply. It doesn't apply because in the story there is no situation where A kisses B and A doesn't know how B feels.


IF NOT, what is your criticism? It shouldn't take long to summarise. The last two I (wrongly?) dealt with take up but a single sentence when stripped of rhetoric and advice.
>> No. 130162
>>130158
This has long since stopped being productive for either one of us.
>> No. 130163
A little defeatist, perhaps?

You said earlier you spent three hours working on responses. Not for my sake, I know, but to get something good on EQD. And most of those were rhetorical flourishes and tangential comments.

How much longer would it take to answer my very simple yes-or-no question? In the worst case scenario, how much longer would it take to assemble a succinct and concrete one-sentence summary? Not long, I'd wager. So if your mandate is that important to you, why not put in the tiniest bit of effort on the chance that those three hours won't be wasted?

And if you're not going to, what does it say that I lucked out on a pre-reader who'll spend three hours putting together obfuscated criticism but, when prompted, is unable or unwilling to give a clear, succinct, and relevant problem?
>> No. 130164
>>130163
Dude, fuck you.

This guy went through the trouble of trying to help you but you keep coming back to what amounts to "ITS JUST THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MY GENIUS."

In behalf of everyone who reads this thread for some insight into making good stories, get out and stop spamming your stupidity. At this point, I'm a 100% sure the prereaders are considering leaving your submissions for last if not outright ignoring you because you are such an ass.

Now, as before, fuck you.

Oh, and for the record, if you haven't noticed he doesn't need to help you for shit, you entitled excuse of a keyboard masher.

Last edited at Fri, Apr 11th, 2014 13:53

>> No. 130165
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>She seeks the comforting help of one of her best friends, and she is more than happy to help.//
The second "she" is ambiguous. I'd recommend "who" in place of "and she." However, this is also the second "to be" verb in your synopsis. I'd also recommend trying to keep those out of a synopsis, unless it's really the only way to avoid an awkward phrasing, since these verbs aren't very good at grabbing anyone's interest.

>Night had fallen over Ponyville as the shimmering moon raised in the sky.//
Your synchronizing two things here that would really happen in sequence. And "raised" takes a direct object. You want "rose."

>Even though night had fallen//
You're not calling attention to this as any sort of thematic repetition, so it just feels like an oversight. Your opening sentence used almost the exact phrasing, and it's just repetitive.

>a dozen or so of her clones//
There were a lot more than that. Just go back and look at the scene where they were all gathered inside.

>listened to the crickets chirping their serene call. Ponyville was truly down for the night as Pinkie Pie was alone in listening to the crickets//
More obtrusive repetition. You also have five "to be" verbs in this paragraph alone, and I'm seeing a lot in the story in general. Like the point I made about the synopsis, these are boring verbs. Some are fine, but the more you use, the more it saps the action from your story, and action is interesting. Being isn't. And just like the synopsis, it's especially important to have the early part of the story grab the reader's attention.

>She choked back a sob and she ran her hoof down the wall.//
There's a section at the top of this thread on comma use with conjunctions. You need one here for the dependent clause.

>even chipping a little//
>Little flecks of paint chipped off//
These are only a few sentences apart. More repetition.

>Pinkie reached out a hoof and softly ran her hoof//
Normally, I'll only point out one or two instances of something before letting you find the rest, but I really wanted to hammer home how much repetition you're doing.

>It has been a mistake to go there.//
Why the switch to present tense?

>Pinkie ran her hoof on the ground to wipe the flecks of paint off.//
Scroll down so that this line is near the bottom of your screen. Then look back up the screen at the first word of each paragraph.

>As she drew closer, she hesitated for a moment when she saw the state that the building was in.//
You have conflicting timings here. "As" clauses mean things happen at the same time, so she hesitates while she's still getting closer? She'd have to stop first. And then the "when" bit triggers the onet of the hesitation, but you'd already set up a chronology, and they're competing for attention. You have to pay attention to the order things happen in, and keep them in a logical order. Most people would 1) draw closer, 2) see the state of the building, 3) hesitate. You have her 1) see the state of the building, 2) draw closer and hesitate at the same time.

>Rarity had clearly been sleeping.//
Here's another thing you have going on. You've given me plenty of evidence to deduce this on my own. Coming right out and saying it anyway is just over-explaining things.

>and she leaned one of her legs one the doorway as if to keep herself from collapsing//
This is phrased as Rarity's perception, since Pinkie would actually know whether she was trying to keep herself from collapsing. But the story had been from Pinkie's perspective so far. Why switch to Rarity? Not that you can't but it has to be carefully considered and done smoothly. There's also a section at the top of this thread on head hopping which will explain.

>Pinkie's lower jaw began quivering.//
It just did that a couple of paragraphs back, so this is hardly it "beginning" to do so. Also note that "begin" and "start" actions are rarely necessary, and are often overused by inexperienced authors.

>Pinkie Pie's lower jaw quivered//
Again?

>she collapsed onto her haunches to being crying again//
That's just awkwardly phrased.

>Landed//
Why is that capitalized?

>I’m sorry Dashie.//
Missing comma for direct address.

>She threw her forelegs around Rainbow Dash's shoulders//
>she wrapped her forelegs around Pinkie's shoulders//
More repetition.

>"That isn't you," Rainbow Dash insisted. "You're not nearly as selfish as they were. They only cared about having fun for themselves, not for other ponies."//
Dash's dialogue is all coming across as pretty bland. You could substitute in any other character, and it wouldn't sound out of place, though it wouldn't have any of their personal touches, either. And I guess that's the point. This doesn't really sound like Dash.

>But my mistake in this instance almost erased me from existence//
You're starting to lose me on authentic-sounding Pinkie dialogue as well. Not so much the mood, but the phrasing and word choice.

I didn't catch you using much telly language, so good on that front. You have huge amounts of repetition, though. I pointed out quite a few instances, and to help illustrate, of the easier forms to check, I counted 117 "to be" verbs. You need to be choosing more active verbs. This is a rate of almost one every other sentence, so every third or fourth verb you use isn't doing anything.

The one plot issue I'd bring up is that Pinkie wants reassurances that the clones didn't endure a painful end, and she wants to talk to Twilight about that. Even her friends refer her to Twilight, but she never gets there. The resolution of that conflict is to sweep it under the rug. That's a very unsatisfying conclusion, and I can't believe it would allay Pinkie's worries for any length of time. This plot thread just gets dropped.
>> No. 130166
>>130163
Surely insulting me will get me to help you. You've routinely dismissed whatever I've said to you and called the time I invested in you tangential and irrelevant. At this point, I'd have to read your story again to recall specifics, and I'm not going to sink yet more time into this only to be told that you have no intention of listening. It really baffles me how you think your behavior would motivate me to accommodate you at all. As to my mandate, I could have helped two or three other authors in the time I've spent on you, so that is also better served by moving on. You lucked into a pre-reader that helps writers, and if you want to request a different one, you're welcome to, but no pre-reader here will be receptive to a pat and rushed romance like hundreds of others we've rejected. You're not going to get anywhere without addressing that. There's your succinct statement. This is far and above the feedback we are required to give, so if you really want the standard treatment, then here it is:

No.
>> No. 130169
>>130166

I'm not insulting you. Okay, yeah, I've been a bit snippy out frustration, and for that I apologise. But beyond that I've tried to avoid saying anything bad about you as a person. I've even tried to interpret your intentions charitably. I have criticised your conduct where it's been uncivil and your arguments where they've been muddled, and I've been forthright about doing so. If I say your arguments are poor, it's because they're poor. But since you've made this thread, you must see the value in open criticism. If I were criticising someone's work, I'd expect no less.

Nor have I routinely dismissed anything you've said. I accepted nearly all the criticism you gave initially. Of those I challenged you on, I acquiesced to all but one. For that last one, I've been making a prolonged effort to understand what the problem actually is. That's anything but a dismissal. (Don't get me wrong -- I will challenge criticism if I think it's poor, because I care about writing well, and I'd take rather a good story that gets rejected than a mediocre one that gets to EQD. But a challenge is not a dismissal. And I do listen to an ponder over every piece of advice I get.)

>At this point, I'd have to read your story again to recall specifics

I think this is the problem. At the risk of trespassing on your intentions -- it looks like you have an issue with the story, but can't actually remember what it is beyond something vague like being unrealistic or cliched. (Which I can't do anything with, since I'm getting nearly everything from real life romance). The last concrete thing you pointed to is something that isn't in the story. Neither of us need to be here and I owe you nothing, I know. But I'm being held up by a you problem you have that you can't even remember. I hope you see why that's just a little bit galling.


ETA:
I wanted to leave this until after things were settled so it didn't sound insincere. Now I've effectively managed a permanent rejection, I think they are. Thank you again for the time and effort you've put in. Most of what you said was helpful, and I really do appreciate it.

Take care.

Last edited at Sat, Apr 12th, 2014 09:14

>> No. 130170
>>130164

I'm not your dude, buddy.

Nah, you have a point, Anon. I was treating a public thread like private correspondence. I'll duck out now. Have fun.

Last edited at Sat, Apr 12th, 2014 09:18

>> No. 130175
>>130147

I don't really see the issue with Scoot's aunt as piling on. It's not in addition to her inability to fly. It's the root cause. We are drilling down past the obvious and moving into her true motivations. She can't fly because she's got all this mental baggage weighing her down, and this is the baggage.

Now, having said that, I'm sure I can find a way to do it that is more satisfying. You are certainly correct that Luna should take a stronger stance in some direction regarding that revelation. I'll be revisiting it in a few weeks and I'll work on that.
>> No. 130176
>>130175
It's possibly not piling on if you give it a reason for being there, but you hadn't made that connection before, so it felt more like being there for the sake of being there. Neither Scootaloo nor Luna alleged any sort of causation. If Luna's not going to bring it up, then it'll take some thought as to why she doesn't or why it never occurs to her. If this kind of anxiety has this result, Scootaloo certainly can't be the first pegasus who's ever experienced it. And be careful wandering into orphaned/abused Scootaloo. It's a cliched enough thing that you have to get it just right, or it does little more than induce an eye roll.
>> No. 130197
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>velvet-dark//
There's no inherent comparison for the simile here, as velvet doesn't have to be dark.

>She looks up with a feeling of unease.//
There are times you can get away with this, but right here at the beginning of the story is somewhere you need to forge a connection with the reader. Read the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>Where is the herd?//
This has a nicer sound to it, but technically a group of ponies is a string. I wouldn't blame you for ignoring that.

>Where is.. is... the thing.//
It's a question, isn't it?

>Muffled sounds—the chewing of grass, faint whickers and whinnies—sound all about me.//
To illustrate, I'll remove the aside. "Muffled sounds sound all about me." See the problem now?

>It must be!//
You're finally giving me some emotion. The short, clipped sentences you're using almost exclusively work for someone in the middle of action (not the case), very young (physically, yes, but it's an older mind inhabiting the dream), or emotional turmoil (which you could have, but don't). She's gotten a little emotional over what she's trying to find, but not about things like finding herself among the herd (wouldn't she take comfort in that?) or having them turn into a forest (wouldn't this surprise or scare her?).

>It is me.//
You need to decide whether she's going to affect an adult's or child's voice. Her "I shall too" is rather adult, but this is more childlike in its missed grammar ("It is I").

>It smirks at me.//
She just said she has trouble seeing it. So how is she going to recognize a nuanced expression like a smirk?

>“Ha! You cannot—you are me. And I am you.”//
This is probably not the best conversation to skimp on the nonverbal cues. You're not quite this bad, but you might want to read the section at the top of this thread on talking heads to see the rationale of why it's important at an emotional crux like this.

>casting a stark shadow beneath me.//
If she was asleep, how is there a shadow beneath her? Was she sleeping standing up?

>I have found the moon, the thing that was missing from the night sky. My moon. I know that it belongs to me. It is on my flanks because it is mine. Now that it is in the sky, all should be well.//
You get somewhat of a pass in dialogue, but watch the "to be" verbs. They're inherently boring and bring action to a standstill. Five of them in a short paragraph... You can probably find ways to rephrase this using active verbs. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what is.

>The stone rises, smooth and perfect, all around me.//
Rather repetitive with the scene's second sentence, and I don't see a thematic reason for doing so.

>In the brilliant light the crumbling walls//
This is already the fourth use of "crumbling" in the scene, and again, there's no thematic tie for doing so. If you're being deliberately repetitive, it needs to be obviously intentional, which usually involves putting some sort of emphasis on it so the reader can tell what you're doing.

>I yearn towards it.//
But I don't get that feeling from her, because she states it as a cold fact. This is why showing is so important. I want to know what thought flashes through her head, what physical symptoms it causes, etc.

>still missing//
You're using that as a compound modifier, so hyphenate it.

>The whispers grow louder, more mocking. I run faster, but I trip and fall. The whispers laugh at me, their voices merging into one voice, that mocking voice that is almost, but not quite, my own.//
Again, let me see how this makes her feel. It's all stated as cold fact, so it doesn't get me to identify with her. The repetition of "mocking" almost works here, since you've used "that" to point it out, but the first use refers to multiple whispers, so it doesn't quite match up.

>Let me past//
You sure you didn't mean "Let me pass"?

>Give up! Lay down!//
Lay/lie confusion. And this may just be me, but the up/down juxtaposition here creates an almost comical effect that's at odds with the atmosphere you're trying to create.

>crumbling into gravel beneath me. The floor beneath my hind hooves crumbles too//
More crumbling, huh?

>Does another orb hang beside the moon? I approach, but when I arrive, the tapestry contains only a single pony; a blue figure with wings and horn, curved around a dark moon which shows a bright crescent.//
Misused semicolon, as there isn't an independent clause after it. You're actually defining the pony here, so a colon would be appropriate.

>I pull out an old favorite and settled at a table to read.//
Why the switch to past tense?

>and when I turn//
Needs a comma for the dependent clause. You got it right earlier.

>I halt, feeling confused.//
There's leeway for being telly in first person, since it can be awkward for the narrator to describe her own body language, for instance, but there are other ways of doing so. The language itself can imitate confusion, since she's the one speaking.

>The enemy is between it and I.//
People often make this mistake for fear of getting it wrong. It's actually "between it and me."

>It is glorious.//
And there's not much in there to make me believe she thinks so. You have to give me something. Make me feel it with her. You list a bunch of things that are getting her excited, but you don't show her getting excited.

>Our battle rages for a small eternity.//
Yes, but I have no sense of that other than this short line.

I had already assumed your title came from the song of the same name, but let me caution you when using references like that: make sure they make sense. Consider what the song is saying. Everything seems to be a mirage. That works so far. But look at the song's message: "it wouldn't be make-believe if you believed in me." And it says all these things are fake because the singer is "without your love." There's a powerful sentiment that you're missing. Luna does speculate on whether she hates Celestia, which comes at it from a different direction, but it doesn't play up the tie between illusion and loving/being loved. The song obviously means it in an optimistic way, as in Luna believing in Celestia, but it could also be twisted into Luna's belief in Nightmare Moon. Either way, there's a big difference between "the title sounded cool, and the literal meaning applies" and "I can gain some deeper understanding of the story from the reference."

So, it should be clear by now that the major problem here is the lack of an emotional connection to the character. Most everything is told as stark facts, and I don't get much context as to how Luna feels about it. You have to draw me in and get me to empathize with her situation, but just using blunt assessments of her mood isn't the way to do that.

Another is that this was just chock full of "to be" verbs. I've already explained why they're good to limit, so I'll just hit you with the numbers. Of the easier forms to search for, I counted 86. That's about one every 35 words. Normally, that'd be about one every other sentence, but you tend to use such short sentences that it's not quite that often for you. But it's still the same word frequency. That's also about 13 times per page, so just consider there are that many instances on each page where something doesn't happen.

Last edited at Mon, Apr 21st, 2014 18:39

>> No. 130268
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>an unicorn//
Typo.

>He pulls back as a loose rock stumbles down in front of his hooves, disappearing into the gorge below.//
You have to be careful with participles, as they can commonly be misplaced modifiers. By proximity, it sounds like his hooves are disappearing.

>saddleback//
Did you mean "saddlebag"?

>he asked wearily//
Why is this past tense?

>the pure despise in the eyes of his assailant//
"Despise" isn't a noun.

>lavendel//
Typo.

>Rar’//
You generally don't need apostrophes for nicknames, as they're short by nature.

>Flutters//
Consider how she'd actually pronounce this cutoff. Since there isn't an "s" sound in the word, would she really stop on one?

>keep company to a senior pony //
Odd phrasing.

>His attempts to rise up prove as futile as on the last time//
Extraneous "on."

>Yes, this is my bedroom. Good to see that they have not robbed my books, nor my chest, although something tells me that they didn’t come here for my property in the first place.//
This voicing served him well at the beginning of the story, where he had the time and space to observe everything around his home. But here, it's really at odds with his situation. He's injured, surrounded by potential enemies, and tied down, and probably not at full mental capacity from the knock on the head. Is he really going to think this carefully and poetically to himself? It's undoing his dire circumstances.

>to fake sleep//
And here you've crossed the line to over-explanation.

>everytime I close my eyes, every time//
Inconsistent spelling (two words are appropriate here).

>lavendel//
Again with this. Is it a British spelling? In any case, it's throwing me for a loop, and you'd much rather have my attention on the story instead of the word choice.

>The alicorn//
You're really bordering on Lavender Unicorn Syndrome here, especially since he's heard their names. In fact, he heard Twilight's just now.

Yeah, this dialogue is really stiff. I can't imagine real people in similar situation speaking in such a formal and rehearsed manner.

>three unicorns, hiding in a cellar, covering in the dark, avoiding one anothers faces//
I have to think you meant "cowering." And you're missing an apostrophe.

>various fragile items//
That's incredibly vague and hardly worth mentioning.

>as in trance//
Missing an "a."

>to his surprisement//
Why not just "to his surprise"? I don't see what the more complex word accomplishes, other than speaking down to the reader.

You did better earlier in the story, but I'm getting an awful lot of telly language about now.

>First his sees//
Typo, otherwise just awkwardly phrased.

>“Got the rules, Professor?”//
This is more a guideline than a rule, but you generally don't want to switch back and forth between speech and narration more than twice in a paragraph. Here, you have four isolated instances of speech.

>whom you’ve let loose//
I don't believe for a second that Rainbow Dash knows how to use "whom" correctly.

>just get out here//
They already are. Perhaps you meant "out of here"?

>whispers the yellow pegasus//
The exact speaking verb and LUS-type description you used for her last speech.

>I’ll be on the nearest cloud you can spot on the sky//
in the sky

>her half closed eyes//
Missing a hyphen for the compound modifier.

>I’m not sure that its wise//
Its/it's confusion.

>laying on her stomach//
Lay/lie confusion.

>pain envelopes his ribs and chest//
envelops

>*cough*//
Don't put sound effects in narration like this.

(I may end up repeating some things from chapter 1, since I've gone some time since reading it, and I don't remember many details about what I said about it.)

>Thin mist enrobes the city like a cape, limiting the stallion’s view to only a few blocks.//
Capes don't generally obstruct vision. Maybe you should go with a cloak?

>Above the blanket of haze, he can see the sun glinting in the Eastern horizon//
"On" the horizon, and why is "Eastern" capitalized?

>while following the shadow grow against the opposite house wall//
Verb form is off, and this really calls for a possessive (house's wall).

>an array of blankets piled on top of each other stir//
Subject-verb number agreement: array stir.

>the cream-white mare with raven mane//
I assume the stallion knows what she looks like,, but it's still odd for you to give me a description of her when she's covered, so in my mind's eye, I can't see her because of the blankets, yet I somehow see through them.

>Arch Freight walks over to her quietly, and plants a kiss on her idly swaying forehead.//
Unneeded comma. It doesn't start a new clause.

>How can it be misty this time of the year//
It's a question, isn't it?

>droopes//
Typo.

>The cold in the room allies with his heavy eyelids//
Unless it's cold to the point of causing hypothermia, cold actually would help him stay awake, relatively speaking.

>He turns away from his family, and leaves the room.//
Another unnecessary comma.

>tenement//
An unusual word like this really sticks out when you repeat it too soon. You just used it in the previous paragraph.

>Still they go on as in trance//
In a trance.

>All and all//
The phrase is "all in all."

>head to the downtown//
Head downtown.

At this point, I'll say that I realize idioms and preposition choice can be really difficult things to get right when they're not in your first language. I can't keep pointing these out. I've already spent several hours reading and taking notes on this story, and I'm barely into chapter 2. What you really need is just someone who will read the story and help you reword all the odd phrasings.

>pa//
When used as a name or term of address, family members are capitalized. You'll need to go through the whole chapter for these. I saw a lot of them.

>I did for nopony else than for you and for your mother; for us. //
Misused semicolon. There isn't an independent clause after it.

>eyeing wearily the shadows that spread from the lifeless apartments//
Are you sure you didn't mean "warily"?

>The stallion takes a step towards the nearest half-opened door, and pushes it gently with a hoof.//
Another unnecessary comma. There's a section at the top of this thread on comma use with conjunctions that explains the basics of when to use commas with compound structures. You do this occasionally, so you'll need to sweep the whole story for them.

>Arch Fright//
Typo. I see several instances of this one.

>Furniture lies scattered and broken in the living room that he finds beyond the hall//
This is coming in the wrong order. You mention the furniture before the room.

>they can’t be having blood in them//
Another really awkward phrasing.

>Trees do not//
Sure they do. Cut them deep enough, and sap comes out.

>dependant//
dependent

>the Castle’s storages//
More awkward phrasing.

>All dressed in armor and military uniforms, he can feel their stares//
As phrased, "All dressed in armor and military uniforms" describes "he." While I believe he's waering armor and a uniform, you r use of the plural "uniforms" makes it clear you meant to refer to the whole group.

>All the four other stallions//
Awkward

>mailed hoof//
Why would he wear this? Standard foot protection is more like boots or greaves, and a hoof isn't vulnerable to attack anyway. It's very hard on its own.

>the way how you all talked over one another//
Awkward

>his round glasses hiding his eyes behind the glimmer of his coat//
I can't tell whether you're saying his glasses hide his eyes or his coat does.

>while our storages are supplemented on a daily basis//
Awkward

>Uneasy tranquil descends//
Awkward. This would normally be phrased with "an," and "tranquil" isn't a noun.

>the one called Proud Freight//
This suggests unfamiliarity, but I don't know where it's coming from. An omniscient narrator wouldn't do this, and the perspective has been with Shining Armor, who should know him well.

>who harbors intents//
Awkward

>I’m not speaking behalf of my emotions, but with them.//
Usually "on behalf of," but this sentence just doesn't make any sense to me.

>the air patrols have registered strange burst of magical energy//
Typo

>pegasi fight back as if their life//
There's more than one of them. Lives.

>fulfil it's purpose//
Its/it's confusion.

>That could even be the reason why Canterlot was attacked in the first place; to create the Device.//
Another misused semicolon.

>The only need to know that now//
Awkward

>if Chrysalis had been capable of seducing the entire Canterlot//
The entire Canterlot what?

>Mayhaps//
mayhap

>Cloud Shield shuns his eyes//
Typo.

>–you became//
Capitalize. He's not picking up a sentence he left off earlier, and grammatically speaking, it isn't even an incomplete sentence.

>raise you right hoof//
Typo.

>Four pairs of eyes nail at Proud Freight//
Awkward

>in the question of this magnitude//
Awkward

>on the mountains spotted with pines and rivers//
For one thing, this makes it sound like you're saying only one mountain range has pines and rivers, and that's the one you mean. For another, "spotted" isn't the best word choice for rivers.

>Twilight watches the midday sun the way she has never before; with scorn.//
Another misused semicolon. Here, you're clarifying or defining something, so a colon would be appropriate.

>It’s the same as on the day as I was born//
Awkward. You don't need that second "as."

>She wipes her eyes, and looks at Rainbow Dash who soars next to her//
The comma you have shouldn't be there, and you've missed a comma that should.

>“Okay, it’s done…what happened to you?” she asks//
Missing end punctuation.

>And if he still hasn’t got the idea//
Verb form.

>Dash frownes her brows//
Awkward.

>but…I’m//
You're inconsistent at leaving a space after an ellipsis.

>Next time I’m trying to kill him//
Awkward.

>She looks each one of them into the eyes//
Awkward.

>says Twilight calmly//
This is the fourth straight piece of dialogue that is said in some "-ly" manner. You're pushing it on being telly here.

>He thinks that we will kill him for what he did in the Project, of course he doesn’t want to talk about it!//
Comma splice.

>narrowes//
Typo.

>Fluttershy seems to shrink under their stares.//
Here's a problem you have sometimes. Your narrator has been very objective through this scene, but use of the word "seem" puts in it someone's perspective, because it's a judgment, not a fact. I just don't know whose. To whom does she "seem" to shrink?

>And like said//
Missing a word.

>But this is a serious level villain we’re talking about!//
Awkward.

>They are both laying on their stomachs//
Lay/lie confusion.

>And before Fluttershy has even properly realized what has happened, she finds herself staring at the stallion unicorn whose life she has saved from the hate of her best friend.//
And only two sentences later:
>The stallion studies the pegasus with a blank expression, fighting to keep his tension inside.//
See the wild swing of perspective between these two characters? You don't want to jerk the reader around like that.

>Fluttershy almost jump on all fours.//
Verb form.

>We saw them all, Draught Tear//
Look how often she addresses him by name in this conversation. Then think about how often you'd actually do that if talking to a friend. It's making her dialogue feel artificial.

>“Bitch Queen”//
This is already inside a quotation, so you need to use single quotation marks for it.

>during it’s short existence//
Its/it's confusion.

>Stand back or I’ll wring her neck around!//
Awkward. And missing a comma.

>Fluttershy’s neck twist//
Verb conjugation.

>Keep you eyes closed.//
Typo.

>disappears in a way of a mirage//
Awkward

>Without a warning//
Awkward

I really had it in my head that I was going to give you a full review of everything you'd written so far. But I've spent over four hours making notes already, and I'm only through the second chapter. The only complaints I have about the story that are attributable to you are these:

1) I'm increasingly seeing adverbs used as stand-ins for meaningful emotional content, particularly attached to speaking verbs. This is getting telly, and if you don't know what that means, there's a section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

2) Your characters are starting to blend together for me. We have the mysterious Project stallion, Arch Freight (whose name you consistently misspell), his father, and the rest of the generals. They all have pretty indiscernable personalities. All strong, stoic, introspective, and using similar word choice. I should be able to tell them apart just from small snippets their actions or dialogue, but they all sound like minor variations on the same template.

And lastly, one that's not your fault. See how many times I left a comment that only said "awkward"? This just comes from day-to-day familiarity with English, and what you really need is someone who can read the entire story through and mark all these for you, maybe even suggest changes to make them sound more natural. This is the biggest issue with the story, and it would only take a regular reader or a proofreader to handle that for you. It's a well-written story, and I'd like to see it on the blog, but the sheer number of these awkward phrasings kept wrecking my sense of immersion.
>> No. 130274
>>130268
It pleases me to see that EqD includes prereaders as thorough and dedicated as you. I myself would have stopped reading well before the end of the first chapter, had I been reading a fic with that many flaws. This brings me to the one real question I have: Where is the supposed potentiality amidst all this awkwardness? A vain question, I know, yet the answer to that would help me as much as everything else you wrote, I feel.

-Stanku
>> No. 130284
>>130274
The story itself is an engaging one. If someone can overlook awkward turns of phrase and just read through them, they'd be rewarded with an engaging story. Unfortunately, my inner editor won't let me read like that. And the point about a lot of the OCs coming across as identical only occurred to me in hindsight.

It's just the little intricacies of language that made this not sit quite right for me, and someone who has the time to help you rephrase things would make great strides here.

I'm not so concerned with the total number of items I listed, because these were pretty long chapters. I should find more. I look more at the rate that problems occur more than counting them, and you're not doing bad on that score.
>> No. 130286
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Okay, I'll point out some specific examples this time.

>“No! Luna, don’t do this! There will be dire consequences!” Cried out a desperate Twilight Sparkle, clutching her broken front hoof.//
There's a section at the top of this thread on dialogue punctuation and capitalization. In short, "cried" shouldn't be capitalized.

>The Princess of the Night did nothing but laugh at the broken unicorn, “What couldst thou do?//
When you transition from narration to quote or vice versa with a comma, the narration should contain a speaking action, with a few very specific exceptions. "Laugh" is pretty iffy as a speaking action. You can laugh while you speak, but you don't really laugh words.

>Celestia has//
In your use of archaic speech here, this should be "Celestia hath."

>she looked around over to her fallen friends//
Which is it? Over or around? They just sound odd together like this.

>Princess Luna looked curtly at the purple Element of Magic, her frown turning into a smirk, “She hath finally crossed the line.//
Another example. None of that attribution has a speaking action. You need to put one in there or make that part a separate sentence. You do this a lot.

>And then thy precious sun rose from the ashes and it brought forth light unto Equestria.//
You have two separate clauses here, which usually requires putting a comma between them. There's a section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>She laughed mockingly, but her expression changed from one of triumph to one of sadness upon looking at the anger on Twilight’s face//
Look how many emotions you're directly informing me of here. It's better to get me to deduce how they feel from what they say, do, and look like. If I was standing there, what would I observe about these characters that might get me to infer these emotions from them? There's a discussion on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>Art we//
Are we

>thou would//
wouldst

>for thou//
for thee

>Even her voice changed, Becoming//
Capitalization

>Tomorrow dawns//
dawneth

>the night time has//
nighttime hath

>lokked//
Typo

>“Sunset, what the buck have you done?!” The shocked Night Guard yelled at me, his jaw hung in disbelief.//
Another capitalization problem, and the comma is a splice.

>school mare//
This would be one word, as in "schoolgirl."

>It’s been ten years since Nightmare Moon took over//
See, this completely takes away the need for your "10 years later..." at the beginning of the scene, and it's much more elegant about establishing the time frame.

>and it worried me greatly//
Better to show this through her actions and demeanor than outright stating. Another instance of show versus tell.

>“Oh, I wonder who it is,” I said in a sing-song voice, turning my head around, “Could it be the peculiar pony I see around a lot?//
The way you have this punctuated, the two parts of the quote would have to join into a single sentence. For one, they can't, and for another, you seem to recognize it in some way, since you capitalized both.

>knocking me to the ground as quick as lightning as she stood over me with her wings unfurled//
Note that "as" clauses mean simultaneous action. But she'd have to knock Summer over before she could stand over her.

>high profile//
Hyphenate your compound descriptors.

>All of a sudden//
An example of repetition. You just used this phrase not long ago.

>her majesty//
The honorific would be capitalized.

>Canterlot Castle’s right wing//
Wings are generally identified by direction, as "right" also depends on the viewers orientation.

>not sounding very happy//
That's wierdly self-aware of her.

>brushing my mane with a hairbrush//
Another instance of repetition. There are better ways of phrasing it to avoid that.

>For a second I even thought I saw Coco Pommel//
What possible relevance does this have? If this doesn't turn out to be important later, there's no point in including it.

>I bet I could give him the time of his life-//
You have a hyphen here where you need a dash.

>princes’ smile//
This would indicate that there is more than one prince. And that they all share a single smile...

>Nightmare Moon no longer wore her traditional armor, but instead wore a necklace//
Another example of repetition (wore).

>I recognized her immediately as Apple Bloom.//
And only a paragraph later...
>I immediately recognized her as Sweetie Belle.//

So, I'll stop here. I've pointed out at least one example of each issue I brought up last time.

Another pre-reader looked it over as well, and since pacing is one of the things I'm not so good at catching, I'll include The Carousel Pony's feedback:

"It feels very rushed in spots. The main place it stood out to me was how Sparkler was very remote and aloof and then suddenly became more normal and approachable in a very short span of time. As well Blueblood does something similar. He seems to warm up to Sunset exceptionally fast and it isn't really explained why. Both of them start as rather distant from Sunset and then suddenly become more friendly which seemed odd as there was no explanation for why there were being standoffish in the first place. I would suggest either keeping them aloof and slowly allowing them to warm to her or simply have them be more approachable from the start.

The time frame also felt very difficult to grasp. I wasn't certain when exactly Luna had reverted to NMM and why, so it was difficult to mentally place the characters.

I also felt your scenes could have used more descriptions as it often felt like talking heads just floating in space with no body language to help flesh them out. Even a sentence or two about how the characters are interacting with the scenery."
>> No. 130290
>>130284
Okay. Thanks for all the helpful comments. I shall make sure that the flaws and awkwards phrases you pointed out will be fixed, and that the rest of the chapters will not repeat them.
>> No. 130325
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>When paying for damages incurred by her clumsiness leaves her unable to pay for her daughter's birthday present//
Try to avoid word repetition in a close space like your two instances of "pay" here. For instance, you could replace "pay for" with "afford" without losing any meaning.

The only other issue I have with the synopsis is the large number of "to be" verbs. You have five of them in five sentences. They can't practically be avoided altogether, but it's a good idea to minimize them. They're inherently boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what merely is. You should be choosing more active verbs. It's also a good idea to avoid have the narrator use "you," unless you're going to establish one who will regularly talk to the reader. You could reword the "you" and "yourself" here with "she" and "herself," and I don't think it would hurt anything particularly since it would seem to fit with the following sentence better.

>tomorrow!//
You'll normally italicize ! or ? when they're on an italicized word. You did so earlier.

>Honestly, sometimes it seemed like she had springs in her hooves.//
This is in a pretty tight perspective. Compare to:
>They always did that when she was stressed or preoccupied.//
The latter is an oddly self-aware thing for her to say, so it comes across as a more omniscient statement. Try to keep a consistent perspective.

>How did it get here so soon? she wondered.
This is the same. The remark about springs in her hooves was essentially one of her thoughts that the narrator presented on her behalf. But here, you have her present it. If you're going to do both, the only reason to differentiate is if it's really important for some reason that a quoted thought be very literal, that the reader understands she thought it exactly that way, word for word. I don't see that here. I think it's something you could be more consistent about.

>Hearth’s Warming was a special time of year but it didn’t compare with the importance of a birthday to a young filly.//
There are a few times that breaking this rule can help with flow (that's why I didn't point out the second sentence in this paragraph), but you need a comma between the clauses here. There's a section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread. that'll explain, if you're unfamiliar with the rule.

>Rather than let her mother put them on, there were dents in the straps where she had tugged the strap tight with her own teeth.//
This is phrased oddly. "Rather than let her mother put them on" describes Dinky, but you go on to describe the dents and straps before getting to her.

>fitted//
In this usage of the word, "fit" is the proper past tense.

>played out their practised lines//
You just used "practised" a few sentences ago, and it' the third instance in the story already. Watch the repetition.

>Derpy may not always get it right when it was her turn on weather duty but she would defy any of the professional weather ponies//
Another spot where you need a comma between clauses.

>“You said it. Tell her happy birthday from me if I don’t see you tomorrow.”//
There's a section at the top of this thread on talking heads. You haven't gone on too long here, but it'd help get the mood across with a few character actions in there.

>a small brown envelope was placed with what they had earned ready for them to collect.//
That's a bit oddly phrased, too. Maybe just a comma after "earned" would do the trick.

>gratefully//
This would carry a lot more weight if you got me to deduce this from her behavior instead of telling me outright.

>and never asked for more than she knew Derpy was able to give//
That's kind of an odd dynamic that Dinky has a sense of what Derpy can afford. Kids rarely know how much their parents make or even have a concept of how much money that is anyway.

>Even when they had to each rehydrated alfalfa//
Typo.

>No, there had to be a mistake.//
Here's another example of where you're having the narrator present her thoughts as his own. This is fine, but be consistent about it. Personally, I find this type of perspective more engaging for emotional pieces.

>and when she had them matching again//
This dependent clause needs commas on both ends.

>though her expression made Derpy suspicious//
Let me see it, too. It'll have a lot more impact if I'm interpreting it than if it's a cold fact.

>What have they shorted me by so much?//
Seems like you meant to say "why".

>Derpy’s voice grew shrill with emotion.//
It's bad enough when you tell me bluntly what emotion she's feeling, but when you couple that with being vague... There's a section on show versus tell at the top of this thread that'll explain.

>Coryphée looked deeply uncomfortable.//
Yes, but let me see it.

>B-But//
Only capitalize the first part of a stutter, unless it's a word that has to be capitalized anyway.

>Derpy remembered a let sitting in her pigeonhole//
Typo and missing a comma.

>Coryphée clearly wished she was anywhere but there.//
This feels pretty repetitive with the earlier:
>obviously wishing Derpy would spontaneously vanish in the next ten seconds//

>She trailed off//
Trailing off or interrupting are things so obviously pointed out by the choice of punctuation that you don't need to point them out again in the narration.

>repeating herself to make sure her mother was paying the proper amount of attention.//
This smacks of being from Dinky's perspective, whereas you've held to Derpy's so far.

>desperation giving rise to a desperate idea in her mind//
It's possible you used this repetition on purpose.

>I don’t like going downstairs for dinner so I eat up in my room//
Needs a comma.

>Wasn’t that why she had put them away in the first place; because seeing them and knowing he would never use them again hurt too much?//
Not really a correct use of a semicolon, since there isn't an independent clause after it. You're defining or clarifying the reason, though, so a colon would work.

>deftness//
You just used that one recently, too. The more unusual a word, the more space you have to give it before using it again, unless you do something to make sure the repetition is intentional for emphasis or some thematic reason.

>Her hooves developed blisters//
I don't get how. Hooves are basically like giant fingernails. You don't get blisters on nails...

>This was a terribly idea//
Typo.

>She could mimic that optimism these days but that was all it was//
Comma needed.

>When she met something hard//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>using her open mouth as a wind sock//
Since the purpose of a wind sock is to indicate the wind's direction, I'm not seeing the comparison here. You're not equating their appearance, but their function.

>Sparkle//
Is this just a typo? Dinky hasn't been calling her by a nickname.

>yacky//
British term or typo? I haven't heard this one before.

>It was plain white with no distinguishing markings or logos; no hint at what it contained.//
Again, you have no independent clause after the semicolon. A dash would work here.

>suspicion that morphed into a fresh wave of shock//
Let me see it!

>N-No//
Capitalization.

>half collapsed//
Hyphenate the compound modifier.

>“Oh!” Dinky’s mouth formed a small ‘o’//
Feels kind of redundant.

The only few things that seemed to be consistent problems were comma for dependent clauses and misused semicolons, as far as mechanics go, and even then, they weren't flooding me.

I would like to point out the number of times I caught you being telly or told you I wanted to see the emotion you were describing. This is really the way to engage the reader for a piece with emotional content. It's definitely worth a sweep to root that out. And keep an eye on your character perspective.

Finally, I already explained the rationale behind limiting "to be" verbs. You use a lot of them. For the easier forms to search on, I counted 124. That's almost exactly one every 40 words, or about one every 2 1/2 sentences. That's how often something isn't happening. Take a crack at rephrasing a number of these with active verbs.

This is a nice story, and I'd like to see it on the blog. I've read your work before, and I know you're capable of fixing this up. Invest a little more time into it so we can post it.
>> No. 130339
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>were hanging//
Why the switch to past tense?

>dainty-looking//
This is begging for qualification. I can't really imagine what might make a nail dainty. Maybe you just mean they're small, or colored, or ornate. Give me more of a mental picture of what you mean.

>hundred— a//
Since it looks like you're going with em dashes, don't put a space on either side of it. For en dashes, you'd put a space on both sides. Don't put a space on just one side for either type.

>(these are the ones she could agree to part with)//
It's unusual to see parenthetical elements in narration outside of a first-person narrator.

>the way always he sits//
Seems you got a couple of words out of order.

>Carrot Top is embarrassed again that she hadn’t inherited any of her mother's beautiful singing voice.//
This would gain a lot of power if the narrator weren't simply informing me of it. If I saw a bit of her behavior when the memory arises or a half-sentence fleeting anecdote about when she used to listen to her mother sing, it'd really form a connection.

>newly-wed//
newlywed

>Carrot Top sighs at the abrupt ending of her dream.//
This comes across as a tad heavy-handed. We already know from the way the previous scene concluded that it was a dream.

>just the sky just barely//
You're on the edge here. I'm guessing the word repetition wasn't intentional here. If you wanted it to be a thematic repetition, it needs to be a bit more obvious, like using it a third or fourth time, but I suspect it's merely an oversight.

>tissue in cold water//
Not sure why you're making the distinction. Tissue doesn't break up any faster in cold water than any other temperature.

>the room across the bedroom//
That's an odd phrasing, because something across the room is still in the room, but you can't have a room in a room. Not sure whether you meant "across from" (it's on the other side of the hallway) or something closer to "on the opposite side of."

>instead of being neatly stacked under the footboard of her damnably large bed, collecting dust and cobwebs//
I think you're okay here, but descriptive elements like to modify objects near to them, so grammatically speaking, the "collecting..." participle would tend to describe the bed. As in this case, it's often easy to figure out what you meant, but if you don't keep a eye on these types of misplaced modifiers, you might use one that's genuinely ambiguous or misleading.

>sleeping in the room across hers//
Ah, so I get what sense you meant this. I've always seen it phrased "across from." As you have it, it would tend to mean they're in the same room as hers, but at the other end of it.

>half-heartedly//
halfheartedly

>considered//
Another shift to a past-tense verb.

>What is snug and cozy for a married couple, is uncomfortably inadequate for two mares and a foal.//
That comma is unnecessary.

>It had managed//
This tense is out of place in a present-tense narration. It would describe something that happened in the past, but has since stopped, and I don't think that's the case here. Simple past should be fine.

>Bits were always short and as quickly needed as they accumulated. Dinky wasn't a baby anymore, and she needed her own room and desk and books.//
Watch the repetition of "needed."

>Dinky was a smart foal//
Another odd tense. Given the prevailing present tense, it sounds like Dinky isn't smart anymore.

>these kind of things//
Number mismatch. It's either "this kind of thing" or "these kinds of things."

>Carrot had seen//
Again, I think simple past tense would work better here. Past perfect is generally used for an action that is in the story's past when it uses past-tense narration. It has that sense of completion to it, so it implies that Carrot Top doesn't see this anymore.

>Ditzy//
If you're attached to this name, that's fine. I actually like it better, but canon basically said they're different ponies, though they've backed off from having an official name for her.

>“You've already done so much for us, Carrot,” she said, holding the older mare, “You don't owe anything to anypony."//
The way you've punctuated that, both parts of the quote would form a single sentence, but it'd be a comma splice in that case, and you'd have to use lower case to start the second part. In short, change the comma after "mare" to a period. There's a section at the top of this thread explaining the most common ways to capitalize and punctuate quotations.

>In her firmest voice//
Watch your perspective. The story's been from Carrot Top's point of view, but this statement is from Ditzy's (how would Carrot Top know it was her firmest voice?). If Carrot Top can perceive something that leads her to this conclusion, then show me the same evidence instead of giving me the conclusion itself.

>They came to a decision that night.//
And your tense is wavering in this scene. It's jumping back and forth between present and past. In that your narrator is summing up things that happen, particularly at the end of the scene, it may be better to cast the entire scene in past tense, but whatever you do, try to keep it consistent. There are stories that can get away with shifting tenses, but it just feels jarring here.

>a plates//
Typo.

>“Breakfast time, lamby. Say thank you,” Auntie Carrot Top.//
Looks like you meant to put those quotation marks at the end of the sentence.

>to get rid of the fuzzy, sleepy taste that had settled in//
Perspective again. This is firmly in Dinky's head. Nobody else could know this.

>shrunk away from the light, condensing and sharpening until they hugged//
Tense again. Seems like "shrink" and "hug" would work better here.

>Carrot notices that Ditzy takes two sugars with her coffee that day.//
Muddled tenses again. "Notices" implies present tense, but "that day" as opposed to "this day" or "today" implies past.

>But its actually not all that bad//
Its/it's confusion.

>Carrot Top remembers that Hearts and Hooves day is this week.//
This feels like an awfully bland statement of fact for what could possibly involve surprise, regret, worry... I'll talk about this more in my wrap-up comments, but I want to see that reaction.

>With that, Carrot Top could help but think about the first time she met the mailmare.//
A couple of things here. First, phrases like "with that" in which the narration directly references itself are pretty immersion-breaking. I bet you can come up with a better intro than that. Second, it's an odd tense thing again. "Can't" would be more appropriate than "could."

>To be honest, Carrot Top found it a little odd how a filly could talk about anything from Canterlot politics to the weather in Baltimare with the same passionate sincerity.//
I'm going to flag this for now but discuss it later in the wrap-up comments. Just note how the narrator is basically stating Carrot Top's thoughts for her.

>Ever since the accident, her life has been awfully quiet, too quiet, sometimes she just wants to bury her face in the pillows on her couch//
That last comma is a splice, and since this scene is in past tense, the "has been" should really be a "had been."

>young a blue pegasus//
Got a couple of words out of order.

>with a striking rainbow mane she's never seen before//
Another odd tense shift. I'd also encourage you to phrase it as "...she'd never seen before, with a striking rainbow mane." That way, it's clear that it's the mare she'd never seen and not just the mane, as if she knew Dash, but she'd dyed her mane or something.

>There was concern weighing down Roseluck's normally jaunty voice.//
Instead of just telling me there's "concern," describe the voice in a way that I'll infer it. That connects me to the character. It's a related issue, but check out the section on "show versus tell" at the top of this thread to get the rationale.

>of course she knew about the accident, Carrot bet the entire damned town knew//
Comma splice.

>Roseluck clearly wasn't fooled, but she knew to drop it.//
Here's an example of a good use of perspective. The "clearly" grounds this as Carrot's perception of Roseluck's attitude, so it's keeping the point of view with Carrot.

>Poor thing though, probably doesn't know anypony; probably even moved from Cloudsdale for her foal.//
Semicolons are a formal enough thing that you really have to get them right, and you don't have an independent clause after it. I think a dash would work well.

>Carrot Top wasn't sure about how this made her feel.//
The narration after this gives me the same idea perfectly well, so stating it here so stoically is superfluous.

>light.Today//
Missing a space.

>normally weighed down by a much larger load//
This is pretty redundant with the previous "Her wagon is unfamiliarly light."

>shade cloth//
Might just want to call it an awning.

>You're welcome to first pickings if you want.”
>
>“Why, thank you!” Roseluck says, picking out//

Watch the repetitive use of "picking."

>Roseluck giggles and blushes crimson//
That's a really questionable speaking verb. I could live with giggling a couple of words, but this is used as an attribution for two long sentences.

>Carrot's voice is thin and weak by the end of the last sentence.//
In contrast, this seems like a very external perspective. Carrot Top wouldn't be self-aware enough to realize this about herself, especially given what's happening.

>Grabbing what she could, she boarded the first non-stop train to Canterlot.//
Note that participles imply simultaneous action, so she's grabbing her things from home at the same time she's boarding the train. And it's "nonstop."

>the receptionist behind a glass booth//
Well, she's behind glass. But she's not behind the booth; she's in it.

>Sir//
The only reason to capitalize this as a term of address would be if it's a title, as in a knighthood.

>Carrot Top hooves//
Missing a possessive.

>Cloud Angel//
You had properly been italicizing the ship's name, but now you've stopped.

>hiccuping//
Is that really the best word choice here? That's something else entirely.

>she began to feel a deep, terrible fear//
Right around here, you're spending an awful lot of time directly informing me of character emotions. Show me how they act and get me to deduce those emotions, and I'll care a lot more about their predicament.

>Carrot Top's mouth opened and shut soundlessly. She felt tears swelling in her eyes again. The two looked at each other for a long while, neither knowing what to say to the other.//
This is a great plot development. It contrasts nicely that Carrot found the whole place so alien, even a bit revolting, but suddenly has this common ground with him.

>mid afternoon//
mid-afternoon

>Carrot Top checks the big clock on Town Hall//
There actually isn't a clock on Ponyville's town hall, but there is one on Ponyville Tower.

>‘Scarcity like an armed bandit.’
I can't see a reason for italicizing this, since you already have it enclosed in quotes.

>trying to figure out how this explanation is different from her own//
Another perspective leap. This is in Dinky's point of view unless you qualify it as Carrot's interpretation of how Dinky looks and acts.

That last sentence... I appreciate the point you're trying to make, but it's a bit weak. I think it'd work better if you tied it more strongly to the thematic remarks you'd made all along about the house's size.

So it should be obvious what a few of the main problems are. The perspective jumps around a bit too much, and I'm not sure it needs to jump around at all. You usually have it in Carrot's point of view, so just pay attention to keeping it there. Along those lines, the few places where you put items in parentheses inside the narration seem a bit odd. Like I said, those types of things often work best in first person. But not only with who holds the perspective—you jump between a very tight focus and a distant one. At the risk of saying something you already know, an omniscient or objective narrator stand dispassionately away from the action and has no opinions about it. A limited or subjective narrator effectively takes on one of the characters' perspectives (or can shift between multiple characters, as long as the transition is handled well—I won't go into it, since it doesn't seem applicable here, but you can read the section on talking heads at the top of this thread if you're curious). This narrator can speak the character's thoughts and opinions as his own. You go back and forth between these. There are certainly statements a limited narrator will say that can sound omniscient, like when they're simple statements of fact, so that there are no feelings or opinions involved. That makes it fairly important to delve into a feeling or opinion regularly so you keep the narration subjective often enough to feel consistent. A lot of these parenthetical elements are essentially a limited narrator, and you could take them out of parentheses. That way, the narrator is just speaking on Carrot's behalf, and it forges a closer link between her and the reader. You might want to consider doing so and adding in even more to keep that feel up throughout the story. Or if you'd rather back off to a more objective narrator, again, keep that consistent throughout the story, then if you want to express Carrot's opinions and thoughts, do so as quoted thoughts instead of narration. Either way works; the point is consistency.

Next, the verb tenses go all over the place. I get the sense that you're not a native English speaker; I apologize if I'm wrong about that (your use of German would seem to give me a clue as to your nationality—I took four years of German in school and halfway expected the proverb Carrot alluded to would be a good German one. I was not disappointed, though I thought it would be "Arbeit macht das Leben süß.") I have not dismissed the possibility that these tense changes were intentional, but I couldn't find a reason or pattern, so if they were, please tell me so that I can take another look and see if it accomplishes what you want it to. I'm talking more about changes from one sentence to the next; having a scene in a different tense that the one before it isn't as big a deal, and I could tell in general when you did that.

Next is the sheer number of "to be" verbs. Well, I had the impression that there were a lot, but it's important to verify that after the fact, and of the easier forms to search on, I counted 141. That's about one every three sentences, which isn't awful. So it's not so much the raw number, but more that I noticed plenty of times where you could have easily rephrased using a more active verb. "To be" is a very boring verb. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is, so consider trying to reduce them some.

Last issue, and this is more a suggestion. I was hoping to see you make more of this interaction with the griffon officer after the fact. I already told you why I thought it was a powerful moment, and I think it's a wonderful point for the story to make, if you care to have Carrot Top reflect on it at all, on the shallow end, or perhaps even strike up a friendship with him, on the deeper end.

In summary, please fix this story up, because I thought it was a wonderful sentiment, and I'd like to see it go up on the blog.

Last edited at Sat, May 3rd, 2014 10:54

>> No. 130341
>>130339

Thank you for your in-depth response. I especially appreciate your comments on how word choice can muddy the sense of tense or narrative perspective. As a new writer, these concepts can be tricky for me to pick out without an experienced pair of eyes. I'll be sure to talk to my editor about these issues when I have the chance. I'm also pretty embarrassed about all the grammatical/spelling errors; I'm still not used to reading fiction with the intent of finding these.

There are definitely some tense shifts that I'd like to address, but I'd like to clarify my intentions behind the larger-scale ones. I've tried to write the "flashback" sequences in past tense and the "current" events in present tense to make a more implicit distinction between the two and to give the reader the sense that Carrot Top is remembering these past events. Of course, if this is out of hand I'll consider revision. Tense changes within scenes, on the other hand, are not intended at all. Thank you for bringing this issue to light.

Concerning the comma splices, I actually tried to make all of CT's thought interjections (usually in parenthesis) feel organic in the sense that they are written the way someone would think these concepts, not how someone would write them. Clearly this is a swing and a miss, so I'll go ahead and address these problems.

>"Awning"
I can't believe my vocabulary is so meager that I couldn't remember this word. Thanks for the suggestion.

Your compliments on the embassy scene are very appreciated. I was actually really worried that I was shooting too high for a writer of my caliber in that sequence. It means a lot to me that you found it impactful. Thank you.

I'll see what I can do about establishing a greater thematic tie to the size of the house. If anything falls flat here, I'd be glad to fix it.

I like your suggestions about making the narrator feel closer to Carrot Top and the reader. This piece was originally a really experimental mood/tone exercise, so forging this bond between narrator and character is important to me. I'll be sure to try to make narrative perspective more consistent, and I'll try to integrate the parenthetical interjections into the text more intimately.

English is actually my first language, but I attended an international high school in Beijing. This has given both my writing and my speaking an odd "slant" that I occasionally get a little frustrated with. A lot of the students there were speaking English as a second or third language, so they were most comfortable with passively-voiced sentences in their writing. Considering the startling number of "to be"s I've included in this story, I'm guessing it rubbed off on me. Don't worry about suspecting me to be German; I'm actually relieved and flattered. Writing foreign mannerisms and speech was probably one of the biggest reasons why I was afraid that the embassy scene might fall flat.

I'll need to think for a bit about expanding the role of the griffon officer in the story. I liked the way I used him, so I'm a bit apprehensive about any changes to his role. Could you elaborate a little on how and why you'd like to see this done? This sounds like a good idea, but any other information at this point would be appreciated.

Again, thank you for your response. I'm glad to hear that you at least enjoyed the idea of this story. Take care!

-B.

Last edited at Sat, May 3rd, 2014 11:18

>> No. 130343
>>130341
I figured that you intended for the flashbacks to be past tense and the regular narration to be present. That's perfectly fine. It's just that within each, the tense jumped around enough that I wasn't sure if you were trying to do something artistic with that.

Regarding the griffon officer, I don't necessarily mean writing an entire new scene to show him having some subsequent interaction with Carrot. It could be something as simple as noticing in the final scene that she's gotten a letter from him or that she's sending him a letter, or even just that she's thinking about him. Even a minor way of showing that she's come out of that interaction with something meaningful and some new perspective on what she found off-putting about his culture would carry a lot of power. It would also show that her feelings from that encounter carry forward instead of just getting dropped when that scene ended. It really wouldn't take much, and then suddenly your story carries another message or reinforces your point of Carrot being accepting of Ditzy, who was also alien in a way.
>> No. 130344
>>130343

Thanks for your help! I'll see what I can do.
>> No. 130371
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>"Can I not sleep for another ten minutes, Mother? I am most comfortable."//
I suspect this will become problematic, but I'll wait and see if we get an explanation. For now, though, this doesn't sound like what a child would say. Same goes for much of the narration, given that it's essentially her thoughts.

>a slight frown finding its way onto my face//
This may just be me, so I won't count it against you, but such flowery language about one's own body language never rings true. She wouldn't think about it this way. She'd just frown. Yes, it can make for more interesting language, but it makes for less authentic first-person narration.

>Mayhaps//
People understandably confuse this with "perhaps." It's "mayhap."

>I love my mother's hugs.//
This stands as a solitary cold fact. What does she like about them? How do they make her feel? Without that, this statement doesn't connect me with the character.

>My smile returns//
>my smile falls//
>My smile returns//
>Once more my smile fades.//
This takes place over just 7 paragraphs. Watch the repetition. You Use "smile" 9 times in just the first two screenfuls.

>nasty ponies//
Given that she's friends with one, I really hope you'll play up this dichotomy in her attitude.

>A joyful feeling fills my heart//
>the joy I feel begins slipping away//
Besides being repetitive, that's getting pretty telly for what should be an important emotional moment.

>and you may begin helping him on the farm when planting time comes//
Okay, you've officially lost me with the narrator's voicing and dialogue. I was unsure how old she was such that she could even be expected to know such syntax and vocabulary. I was also unsure of what their station in life was. I might even buy her being this precocious if she were a member of a noble family who had been trained in diplomacy and the art of conversation from a young age. But they're farmers. We've heard two canon griffons speak, and neither sounded fancy at all, so I have no basis to assume that's their default. So the next step is to show me why these ones break the mold, and I don't see any justification why a farmer's wife and child would speak like Shakespearean actors.

>once again she begins//
While I get what you mean, this sounds somewhat contradictory.

>Mother walks over to a nearby storage closet, and opens it up.//
You've been good about this so far. You don't need this comma, since it's all a single clause. I only pointed out a few of these, but there are more. There's explanation at the top of this thread under "comma use with conjunctions."

>I like the sound of money jingling.//
This is a much more believable childlike line that waxing philosophical.

>I take five of them from the stack, and place them on a shelf closer to my height.//
Another unnecessary comma.

>the items that Mother requested and wrapping them in the cloths for safekeeping. I note that the food Mother requested//
Repetitive wording again.

>Mother dissolves the cloud//
Why is this necessary?

>three-quarters//
In this usage, you don't need the hyphen.

>I find it intimidating//
Make me see this. Show me a couple of the encounters and how she reacts to them. That will carry far more power than giving me a stoic summary.

>tired looking//
And now you do need the hyphen for the compound modifier.

>The griffin brings the carrot to his mouth once more, but he pauses with it halfway to his mouth//
That's fairly repetitive and contradictory.

>motions for me to lay down//
Lay/lie confusion.

You're really losing the character of your narrator during this whole discussion. In the scene at home, she gave her thoughts and impressions constantly, but here, she's staying in the background and delivering only the facts. For all I know, she's a statue standing there. How does she react to the discussion? What are her impressions of this old griffin?

>my eyes wide and fearful//
That's an awfully self-aware thing for a first-person narrator to say. It's like she's more cognizant of the fact that her eyes are wide than the emotion which produced it. And by naming the emotion, it makes it a little less immediate for one that'd come on suddenly like this. It'd take her a second to sort out her feelings. She'd first get a wash of raw, disconnected emotion before she understood it.

>Mother runs her claws through my head feathers//
She does that an awful lot, and with identical phrasing.

>I know today is a scary day, Kadie, but you are a big griffin now, and I know you can be brave when the ponies pass by us.//
This whole scene just gives me an impression of her as a much younger child than one who would use such formal language in speech, much less thought.

>She is noticeably older, I note that she obtained one of the "cutie marks" that the ponies seem to covet since I last saw her, but her identity is unmistakable.//
That first comma is a splice.

>joy in my voice//
See, by having her identify the joy in her voice and not in her, it really detaches her emotions from her, and consequently from me.

>the ones in midnight blue armor have leathery wings that rather remind me of bats protruding from their sides//
Phrasing is a little off here. It sounds like bats are protruding from their sides, since the modifier is located with "bats" and not "wings."

>Some of the flying ponies are in the air//
Aren't all of the flying ponies in the air, by definition? Maybe not all the winged ponies, but all the flying ones are.

Well, this story certainly impresses with its fanciness, but then does the fanciness belong? The few cues I get as to your narrator's age indicate someone maybe a little older than the CMCs, and yet she speaks like a highly educated and refined adult. So does her mother. And they're from a rural farming community. This just doesn't fit. You have two nicely voiced characters, but their voices are completely at odds with who they are. I was convinced in the first couple of paragraphs that Kadie would end up being the emperor's daughter, and that would have worked. But Gustave le Grande and Gilda just don't talk anything like this, and unless those just happen to be two outliers, this isn't language the average griffin would use. But then not only do Kadie and her mother talk this way, some random stranger does as well, and so do a few snippets of conversation from the crowd. In fact, every griffin in the story talks like this. I don't buy it.

The ending... I'm not sure what to make of it. It doesn't come to any conclusion or deliver any message. No characters have changed as a result of these events. There's certainly potential for Kadie to change, but she doesn't do anything with the new information she has. Does she accept Celestia's words? Or does her mother convince her it was all for show? There are times when an open-ended conclusion works, but usually not when it's the sole source of conflict in the story or when one of the major possibilities is that nothing changed and nothing that happened in the story mattered. There's one other way to use character growth as a stand-in for conflict, and it's a difficult one to do well: when one character learns something surprising about another character, even when it's something the reader already knows. So I came into this strongly suspecting that Celestia wouldn't turn out to be some cruel conqueror, and she wasn't. No surprise to me, but possibly one to Kadie, if she believes it. Yet she has very little reaction to it and even less reaction to her mother's response.

This kind of ties in, but the strength of a first-person narrator is that we have direct access to her thoughts, and she can't keep anything from us. Unless she's deliberately suppressing it from her mind, and then we should get that train of thought. Yet she is curiously absent from some of the story's bigger emotional moments, like at the end, and when she spends the bulk of the night in the inn as a stone figure on the shelf watching everything happen around her. Contrast that with the next morning, where she's acting very childlike and genuine, not wanting to get out of bed and go off to this distasteful event. Keep her level of engagement more consistent and make her presence known throughout.

I guess I', also a bit at a loss as to what tags are appropriate. There wasn't really anything sad here, and while adventure is hinted at, it's not directly present. Were it my story, I'd probably just call it [Normal] or maybe [Slice of Life], though people have different ideas of what those entail.
>> No. 130377
>>130371
I'll do my best to fix up the errors, then. However, I do have one issue: they talk like that because this story is set before the events of Nightmare Moon. This is over a thousand years in the past, so no, even as farmers she's not going to talk like Gilda. If you have suggestions on how to make that clearer, I'm all ears, of course.
>> No. 130383
>>130377
I did briefly consider the possibility that this took place in the distant past, but the archaic bits of language here and there are used inconsistently. And in that case, wouldn't there be an even greater difference between the lower and upper classes in understanding of language? The tendency is to assume Equestrian history vaguely mirrors Earth's in the absence of any direct evidence otherwise, so consider how likely it would be for a farmer's daughter in tenth-century England to use proper grammar and have a broad vocabulary. You're free to create a world where they do, of course, but as it's not the natural assumption, it kind of comes out of nowhere.
>> No. 130384
>>130383
Yeah, so any suggestions on how to fix that, then? I mean, I'm not completely familiar with how 10th century farmers would speak, and I think that giving them goofy accents would just destroy the tone.
>> No. 130386
>>130383
Is it a possibility to make them not necessarily a noble family, like rich enough to live in the capital, but one that own some land, and has peasants that work on the land that they own, and those are the ones that fly with them? Like in Feudal Europe you had the serfs, then the landowners, then the nobles, then the kings etc? That would give reason for Kadie and her mother to speak a little more intelligently: they've had some education. At the same time, though, they aren't nobles, so they aren't hugely important. They're one level down from nobles, but one up from serfs. Obviously I'd have to change one or two more things to fit that into the story, but it's a thought I had.
>> No. 130387
>>130386
There are many tiers of nobility, so they could be one of the lower rungs of that. Basically, anyone with a minor title would still have access to education. In that case, I'd almost see the mother as putting on airs to seem more than she is, and insisting that Kadie speak in such a manner to keep up appearances. That's just one interpretation, but at least an example of where this could come from.

As an example of how a commoner might speak... well, on the one hand, you'd have someone using horrible grammar and packed with colloquialisms, but on the other, the Hearth's Warming play featured some peasants from that time, who spoke in a fairly modern vernacular. While I'd think that play is fairly old, it's certainly possible that it would have been dressed up to feel more sophisticated and may well not be an accurate portrayal.

You did have one use of "thyself," though it wasn't at a time suitable for being formal, unless the mother was just trying to sound very authoritative there. But then not a single "thee" or "thou," so it was an odd departure.
>> No. 130395
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>everything your doing//
Your/you're confusion.

>Hoo-ee!//
>outta//
One of the most common things writers do wrong with letters and journals is to put things in there that simply don't belong in the format. You're doing alright here, except these two things are much more speech affectations than something someone would actually write. As a fully licensed southerner, I'll also say that it's incredibly rare to see someone use "y'all" as a singular term.

>Twiiiiiiliiiiiight~//
Please no ~ as punctuation.

>her majesty//
The honorific would be capitalized.

>books lie splayed open//
Tense shift.

>She trotted over to the door, opening it enough to peek her head out, and said, “Um, pardon me, guards?”//
Here's another problem that inexperience authors often have. You're using a ton of participles. In the seven sentences of this paragraph, you have four of them. They also bring the danger of synchronization errors and misplaced modifiers, though I haven't noticed any yet.

>‘bolts//
Smart quotes are bad with leading apostrophes. This one's backward.

>She looked back at Twilight, seeing a frown where she had expected an embarrassed smile.//
Watch your perspective. You'd been telling the story from Twilight's point of view so far, but the way this is phrased, it's not how Twilight perceives Rarity; it's told from inside Rarity's head.

>their learning//
Their/they're confusion.

>Rarity’s tone filled with concerned, and she whined slightly.
Avoid informing me directly of character emotions, unless it's a small line of little importance. But here's a pretty crucial emotional moment in the story. Describe how Rarity acts and looks so that I infer her concern. That connects me with the character. I'm also not sure why she'd b whining here. It seems inappropriate. And there's a typo.

>“When I read their letters…” She paused, starting at a crack in the floor. “…I think//
Are you sure you meant "starting" and not "staring"? While this is fine as is, it feels more like you meant it as an aside, which would be punctuated/capitalized like this:
“When I read their letters—” she paused, starting at a crack in the floor “—I think

>wish that I,” she sniffled, “that I//
Now, this one definitely needs to be punctuated like an aside. Really, they both do, since by connecting the narration with a comma, you're making it an attribution, but you have no speaking verbs.

>petting//
You must mean "patting."

>the Rarity//
Huh?

>annunciating//
enunciating

>from out Neighjing//
Phrasing.

>West//
Why is this capitalized?

>age - except//
Please use a proper dash, not a hyphen.

>the Carousel Boutique//
You generally don't put "the" in front of a proper noun that doesn't already include it.

>it’s been the driving a lot of our recent business//
Extraneous word.

>Twilight’s heart swelled.//
It just did that a few paragraphs back. Watch the repetition.

>“Excellent! Next month we should…” A heavy knock on the door interrupted her.//
An interruption would be more of a dash, not an ellipsis.

>is from actually from her//
Phrasing.

>handing//
What's a hand?

First, the good news. The writing is of good quality, and the types of problems I found are pretty easy to fix. I didn't catch you being telly more than once or twice, which is the nemesis of the inexperienced writer, so by luck or by skill, good job on that. You also have a nice feel for character voicing. The letters all sounded authentic, but more so with Rarity's dialogue, since that's an extended interaction and thus harder to get right consistently.

Then the bad. I read the comments, and you seem pretty oblivious to what's already been done again and again in this fandom. Twilight (or any other alicorn) contemplating her immortality is a particularly common theme. That said, there are always fresh angles on old premises, and you're avoiding a great deal of what's been written already by having Twilight react in a completely upbeat manner to all this. She genuinely treasures the letters, and her tears are ones of appreciation. It kind of put me in mind of "Yours Truly," which had a similar play on the significance of letters and an optimistic attitude, though it didn't look at them through the guise of immortality (it preceded Twilicorn). While not without its flaws, that story was a refreshing take on the subject of the emotional connections of friends through letters, in that it didn't devolve into a tear-streaked angst-fest. Now, I'm certainly not the most well-versed person around in the world of ponyfic. I rarely read anything I'm not reviewing, so while I know this is a common topic to tackle, I don't know exactly how common.

It's also a common method to have all of the Mane 6 involved and for the story to focus on the last living one, though I wouldn't necessarily recommend you change that in this case. It would be odd for one or more to be excluded, and they've set this up so that Twilight will only get the letters after they die, so it fits with your premise. But I would ask these things about it: Why would Rarity go ahead and deliver the ones from the rest of them and ruin the surprise, as it were? It seems odd that they didn't each have theirs delivered on the occasion of their death, or since that would blow the secret for the other five when the first one died, hold them all until they all died. In this way, Rarity's letters would be as unexpected as the rest. And there's no indication of why these letters were so special. There are far more than we get to see in the story, so I'm not sure why those ones in particular were chosen. They didn't stand out as especially notable. But I have to think they would have kept up correspondences with Twilight outside of this project. I mean, I think Twilight would notice if they all completely stopped writing to her. So again, what's special about these ones that they get held back while others go through? But getting back to the possibility that they did abstain from writing her all these years, why deprive her of that? She seems the type who would very much enjoy exchanging letters, and while she now has a nice collection of letters from them, she can't answer them.

Another thing you have to ask yourself: what does it matter that the events of this story happened? I don't think you'll have a hard time answering that, but the story doesn't play up the answer very much. What drives a good story is either conflict or character growth. On conflict, what was at stake? What was someone willing to do to achieve a goal? What bad thing would happen if she didn't? For character growth, how is one of them different at the end of the story than at the beginning? What surprising thing do we learn about her than makes us rethink her character? Or (weaker, but still possible) what surprising thing does one character learn about another that makes her rethink her friend, even if it's something we already know? In either case, basically, what message do you want this story to carry? There's a nice sentiment involved, but it doesn't set up and resolve something other than some vague need Twilight has for familiar companionship.

So take these things under advisement and have another crack at it. I enjoyed reading this story, but if you do resubmit, I'd rather have a different pre-reader take it to get a better call on whether this plot is so overdone as to be ubiquitous, even given the nonstandard angle. I can't promise anything.

Before I go, a word about your cover page. Maybe it's as good a choice as any, but I'm not sure I agree with the [Sad] tag here, especially without any other. The situation is one with a certain amount of sadness loaded in it, but none of the characters actually get sad about it. I found it to be more uplifting in its positivity, really. And with more and more people seemingly complaining about the amount of sad posted on Equestria Daily, it might do you well to separate yourself from that as much as you can. In the same vein, the synopsis describes a story heavier on the angst and pain of outliving friends than the story actually delivers. Based on that alone, it sounded like you'd earn that [Sad]. So I'd encourage you to match the tone of your synopsis with that of the story.
>> No. 130401
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>not eager to get going but not too upset about leaving behind her cottage on the edge of Ponyville//
This really begs illustration. For one, it's the heart of your story, and for another, you need to capture the reader's emotions here at the beginning. She does go on to recall how everyone left town, which works to this end, but it's all a bit vague, especially this bit. A few one-sentence reminiscences brought on by keepsakes she sees lying around, for example, would really create the mood.

>(Fluttershy had heard a lot about her in all the magazines at the spa.)//
There isn't really a reason to put this in parentheses. It works fine a narration, and parentheses work better in a first-person narration, anyway.

>2//
Write out numbers this short.

>and she looked down at the key she had strung on a cord around her neck, which she had also forgotten was there//
So a key had been hanging around her neck for the last two years, and she never noticed it was there? That's awfully plot-convenient, to the point of being absurd.

>She doesn't pay me much attention//
Very similar phrasing to something you wrote just two paragraphs back. It feels repetitive.

>a stammered, 'I-I'//
When you're presenting it as a generic object and not specifically as speech, the rules change a bit. In short, you don't need that comma.

>all the support I can get just to get through the day//
Watch the repetition of "get." It wouldn't be hard to rephrase this to avoid it.

>taunting and teasing and jokes at her expense, which had definitely increased after her mother had died from cancer//
Two big problems here. First, having the teasing increase after her mother died? These kids are really scum. I mean to the point of not being believable in canon Equestria. If you want to build a gritter world, then more power to you, but unless you do that, I can't seen any kids doing that. Second, there's no reason to have her mother die of cancer. It's at best tangential to the plot. It has no direct effect on what happens in the story, so it's piling on sad for the sake of sad. And oddly enough, that makes a story less sad, as it's obvious you're grabbing for easy emotions, so it takes power away from the legitimately sad parts.

>which was about a year later//
So she's apparently in the habit of forgetting about her diary for long stretches? This really brings into doubt that it means anything to her at all.

>something...but//
There are a few forms that ellipsis can take, like... this or ... this or . . . this. In any case, you at least need a space after it.

>99%//
Write it out.

>they were flying through the clouds together at a leisurely pace//
Begs the question of who took the photo, but that's a minor thing.

>filling in all the bits and pieces that she could remember of her life//
By completely skipping any of these anecdotes, you're not drawing me into this situation. For me to care about their friendship, I have to know what it means to her, but she's glossing it over.

>Wonderbolt's//
Wonderbolts'

>scanning the sky her cyan, rainbow-maned friend//
Missing word.

>Pony Cancer Rally//
Okay, you are actually tying this in. But it's a little clumsy. This isn't something Dash suddenly cares about. Wouldn't she have supported the cause all along, even back when she lived in Ponyville? If Fluttershy truly inspired her to do this, why did Dash never make an effort to let her know?

>Rainbow Dash looked sad//
There's a section on "show versus tell" at the top of this thread. Basically, if the emotion is important to the story or character, get me to deduce it from her behavior. Don't just tell me what it is, because that doesn't carry any weight. And this speech just reinforces my point. Dash is going on about this mare whom she respects and counts as a great friend, yet never found the wherewithal to tell Fluttershy any of this? And Fluttershy already noted how Dash hates speaking in public. So she can tell lots of strangers all about this, but not Fluttershy herself? This isn't especially personal info or anything Dash would find embarrassing.

>we think Derpy might have put them in the wrong mailbox//
And whoever got the letters just threw them away? That doesn't sound reasonable.

In all, this is very much like a whole lot of other stories we get. It needs to do something different to stand out. If these two really meant this much to each other, why wouldn't they have made more of an effort to see each other? And unless this is another scenario where everyone left town, Dash would have more of a reason than just Fluttershy to visit. Cloudsdale isn't even that far away.
>> No. 130406
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>in middle of wilderness//
In the middle of the wilderness.

>we know//
Since your story doesn't use a first-person narrator, I'd caution you about introducing elements of one in the synopsis.

>befallen on Equestria//
You don't use an "on" in this phrasing.

Story:
>He is powerful//
Given that Equestrian society seems to be female-dominant, I'm surprised he'd assume this figure was male.

>It’s stopped by the body a pegasus mare yellow as wheat bathing in the light of the summer sun.//
"the body of," and you'd need either an "as" or a comma after "mare."

>He doesn’t hear nor see her collapse to the ground.//
Then how does he know she did? Your narrator has been pretty deep in this character's perspective, so to back out to an omniscient view for a single sentence feels out of place.

>What comes to my name//
Usual phrasing ls "when it comes to."

>this headache is worse than at the time//
Remove the "at."

>moistness forming in his armpits//
I don't think that's a place on horses that's particularly susceptible to sweating.

>Twilight's voice trails away into silence.//
The punctuation already tells me this.

>He can’t sense nor here movement near him.//
Hear/here confusion.

>Silence descents in the room//
descends.

>No…the//
Watch your ellipses. Unless they start a sentence or have punctuation after them, they at least need a space after them. The typical systems are... this, ... this, and . . . this.

>He sighs in relief, and stands up.//
Unneeded comma.

>tells the stallion to himself//
the stallion tells himself

>Only the elderly mare shows signs of feelings other than angst and insecurity. In her clouded eyes that have not seen the sun nor the moon for over a decade, a sense of rage resides.//
You're trying to create a visual, but by just telling me the emotion, I don't actually know how this looks.

>making the foals cover deeper behind their parents’ legs//
I think you probably meant "cower."

>His husband and the three foals nod at her words.//
"Her" husband, yes?

>The father smiles at them faintly//
Looks like an unintentional line break here.

>Third crash//
A third crash

>Berryfer glances up at his mother, and sees the flash of doubt in her eyes.//
Unneeded comma.

>Perplexion covers her face.//
Let me see this, not just get the narrator's conclusion about it.

>crabs her ankle//
"Grabs," yes?

>Arch Fright//
Please do a search and replace for this through all chapters. I pointed this out last time. You're inconsistent at spelling his name.

>Her face is a mask of contempt and cool anger.//
You're doing this a bit too much. There's a section at the top of this thread about "show versus tell." You need to let me see their behavior and lead me to the emotions you want to get across instead of simply stating them.

>Do your aerobics or whatever on your own time; we got some questions for you.//
A semicolon strikes me as a bit highbrow for Dash's dialogue.

>how are they going to react when they hear that I don’t have anything for them.//
That's a question, isn't it?

>casually laying on their stomachs//
Lay/lie confusion.

>Needs to be kept an eye on.//
Odd phrasing.

>flapping her wings one metre off the ground//
This says her wings are a metre up, not that she is.

>laying on her stomach on the carpet//
Lay/lie confusion.

>more safe//
safer

>a theatre//
Odd phrasing.

>The bliss of void//
the void

>You can’t just–.//
Don't put a period after a dash.

>cloack//
cloak

>“How can it be misty this time of the year,” asks the mare quietly while closing her eyes.//
It's a question.

>His aimlessly shuffling legs paint random patterns at the dirty plank floor.//
"On," not "at."

>The question stings Arch Freight like a knife.//
You have an odd mixed metaphor there.

>old fashioned//
Hyphenate.

>“That is a good observation. How did you come to make that?”//
I'm not sold on why he speaks so formally. His father is a general, so maybe he comes from an upper-class family, but is he upper-class himself? My read on his occupation wouldn't say so, but I might have it wrong.

>Armor shuns his eyes//
Is that really the word choice you want? It doesn't make sense to me.

>We cannot prolong this any longer.//
That's pretty redundant.

>Supreme Commander, .//
Extraneous space and punctuation.

>yet doesn’t show a speck of the regret that wells up inside him//
How does he know? The scene has been from his perspective, and it's odd for him to make this observation about himself, since he'd be making a judgment call for others.

Regarding formal-sounding speech, Shining Aror also speaks much more formally than he does in canon. It can be explained away, but it does still have to be, well, explained away.

>the entire Canterlot//
"all of Canterlot," or perhaps "the entirety of Canterlot."

>without waiting a response//
Missing a "for."

>She looks each one of them into the eyes//
in the eye

>Let’s cut to the chase then, shall we.//
It's a question.

>It read in the papers we found what you are.//
Awkward phrasing.

>Her!//
You'll normally italicize a ? or ! that's on an italicized word.

>too attractive to be named despise//
Word choice doesn't work here. "Despise" isn't a noun.

This has definitely improved since last time, but there are still a few issues. I'm not necessarily sold on Shining Armor's character voicing, or Arch Freight's for that matter. There's a good amount of telly language in there, too. If it's improved as much as it has this time, I'd tend to say it looks good, but I'd rather have a different pre-reader clear it for posting, someone who can give the full story a read. Once again, due to time constraints, I only made it through the first two chapters. It might help if you gave a more thorough description of your plans for the story in the part of the submission form that asks for the summary. We don't care about spoilers, and nobody outside EqD will ever see what you put there. Namely, you've marked the story as teen for gore, so we'd want to see how bad it gets.
>> No. 130411
>>130406
Okay, thanks again for the help.

It felt to me that Armor would speak more formaly in a company of fellow military officers, especially when he played the role of their superior. After all, we haven't really seen how he'd act in such a situation in the show. But I'll see that the issue is addressed. And maybe Arch Freight could loosen up a bit, too.

There was this one sentence in your message that I didn't quite understand:

"If it's improved as much as it has this time, I'd tend to say it looks good, but I'd rather have a different pre-reader clear it for posting, someone who can give the full story a read."

What exactly are you referring to here?
>> No. 130412
>>130411
It means that your story improved a lot since the last time you submitted it, and if it improves that much again, it stands a good chance of being posted. But I won't be the one making that determination. Since I tend not to grab stories this long, I'll leave it for someone who can quickly read the whole thing instead of taking several days to do it myself. Most pre-readers won't give you this amount of feedback, so I wanted to help as much as I could, but I think you're getting to the point with this story that you don't need it anymore.
>> No. 130451
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>turn for the worst//
The standard phrasing is "worse."

Story:
>say, “hey//
Dialogue capitalization.

>I hope this doesn’t get as awkward as I think it will.//
Feels a tad repetitive, as Lily had just used that word.

>Why ponies were so ecstatic over the romantic lives of complete strangers, she was quite comfortable never understanding.//
I gave you a pass in the opening letter, since it's reasonable for that, but you're giving me an awful ot of "to be" verbs early on in this story. this is only your second paragraph since the letter, and there are five here, though confined to only two sentences. At least that arrangement suggests it may be necessary as that's typically how mine end up if there's just no other good way of phrasing something, but consider giving it a shot. They're inherently boring verbs, so right at the beginning, where you're trying to grab the reader's interest, isn't a good place for them.

>sky blue//
Hyphenate the compound modifier.

>Celestia’s sun//
This is an incredibly cliched phrase that will draw an instant eye-roll from readers who hope for more than MOAR FEELS!!!! from a story.

>The Edge of Glory inn and tavern//
Wouldn't "inn and tavern" be part of the place's name, and hence capitalized? I mean, it's your invention, and you can call it what you like, but tacking it on in that manner sure gives it that connotation, as it doesn't feel like something anyone would naturally say on their own.

>the best place to see the sun set and a lover’s getaway//
The phrasing is mismatched here, as the two items in the list require different things of the verb. It sounds like it's a good place to see a lover's getaway. "the best place to see the sun set and find a lover’s getaway" would work, for example.

>give-away//
giveaway

>Get fresh with me again and you can say goodbye to your teeth!//
You have two clauses here, so put a comma between them. There's an explanation at the top of this thread under "comma use with conjunctions."

>polished wood and shelves and shelves//
I'd suggest a comma after "wood" to differentiate the function of the two "and"s.

>rough and tumble//
Hyphenate the compound descriptor.

>snow white//
Hyphenate.

>bowtie//
Preferred spelling is two words.

>quickly cantering over//
How big is this bar that she has enough space to get up to a canter? That's like running across a bar. How often do you actually see people do that?

>she greeted//
"Greet" is a transitive verb. It needs a direct object.

>sea green//
Hyphenate.

>bayou//
I applaud you for not going overboard with a visual accent, but I'm not seeing any word choice yet that would evoke this. We'll see how it goes.

>in a hushed whisper//
Unless the quote is very short, it's best to put things like this that change how I hear it up front. My default is to hear it in a normal speaking voice, unless the punctuation or earlier dialogue/narration suggests otherwise. So when I finish the quote, I now learn that I was supposed to hear it as a whisper. Then a reader will have to reread the dialogue, which disrupts the story's flow, take it in as a fact without rereading the dialogue, which reduces its effectiveness, or ignore it, which changes the impact.

>sea green//
You just used that descriptor for her mane a few paragraphs back. It's repetitive.

>Lily said with a giggle//
And "giggled" was the speaking verb you ued for her previous instance of dialogue. Repetitive.

>Oh, if only he knew where that horn’s been//
Equestria Daily has a strict policy against horn and wing play. This toes the line, so I brought it up with other pre-readers. We agreed that it's a little over the line, unless it's so integral to the story that taking it out would harm things. But Lily is just trying to playfully embarrass Cadance here, and she wouldn't have to get quite this personal to do so. As a result, we'll have to ask you to tone this down.

>Actually-//
Please use a dash for a cutoff.

>even her taste in alcohol has changed//
Tense change.

>Her horn glowed along with her glass, raising it to her lips and sipping some down.//
I haven't bugged you about a few potential misplaced modifiers, but this one's genuinely a dangling participle. "Raising it to her lips and sipping some down" describes Cadance, but she doesn't appear in the sentence; her horn and lips do, neither of which could perform this action.

>“No problem, sugar,” Lily smiled back.//
That's really questionable as a speaking verb. How do you smile a word? It doesn't imply any sound.

>as if anyone was//
Not an error, but possibly an oversight of using "anypony." But for hypothetical statements, use subjunctive mood: as if anyone were.

>a small, sexualized, romanticized hole//
This is a bit troubling. It implies a huge amount of world-building and public attitudes toward the princesses that the story just does not support. And frankly, with what Lily has been saying, how is she any different?

>Lily said with a smile//
Look at this and the previous two dialogue attributions. See the repetitive structure?

>ma//
Using it basically as a name (as opposed to a more generic use, like "my ma") requires capitalization.

>small town//
Hyphenate.

>break up//
Breakup or break-up.

>Cadance assured//
Another transitive verb which requires a direct object.

>Cadance giggled//
These laughing verbs make poor speaking actions anyway, but you're really using them a lot. They're best used sparingly anyway, but you're crossing the line to being outright repetitive. For instance, when you use "giggle," you tend to do it 3 or 4 times within the same page, so I really notice the repetition.

>sea green eyes//
You've already told us what color her eyes are. We're not learning anything new about her.

>but-//
Dash.

>She gasped happily//
It's not clear who's doing his, since you mentioned them both in the previous sentence.

>you-//
Dash.

>Cadance let out a giggle and followed suit//
Yet another giggle. But the real issue here: scroll so that this line is at the bottom of your screen. Then look back up at the first word of each paragraph, even scroll back up a bit. It's another type of repetition.

>dre-//
Dash.

>Cadance was cut off//
Yes, I could tell from the punctuation. Besides being redundant, the fact that the narrator can wedge this comment in between the actual cutoff and the event causing it undercuts its suddenness.

>ears laying low//
Lay/lie confusion.

>but for what’s coming//
Comma needed to separate the clauses.

>crying.”//
Since the next paragraph immediately begins with more of her dialogue, you don't need these closing quotation marks.

>to just be the one that//
Cadance is a "whom," not a "that."

>She scoffed//
Second use of this word in as many paragraphs. The more unusual a word, the longer you have to go before repeating it before it gets noticeable.

>"Look how that dream turned out.”//
Different people will tell you different things, but you don't want to bounce back and forth between dialogue and narration too many times in a single paragraph. I usually keep it to two, maybe three at the outside, but you have five in this one.

>for my children and I//
Many people swing the pendulum too far the other way and use "I" where "me" is actually appropriate. It's an object of the preposition "for," so it would use the objective case. To illustrate, make it plural. Would you say "for we" or "for us"?

>“Please don’t hurt him,” she pleaded//
Redundant.

>I’ll just lay down//
Lay/lie confusion.

>false romantic farces//
Redundant.

>and when they were gone//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>There were no sound//
Number agreement.

>and I could swear she was making passes at me//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>conniving-//
Dash.

>She really did used to mean a lot to me//
She's pretty much repeating word-for-word what he just said.

>“I understand,” he whispered, nudging his nose against hers with a sad smile.//
Look back at how often lately you've used the construction of "Speech," X said, participle.

>if I saw you unhappy on the altar.//
Well... she's not going to be on the altar, right? That would imply a much more disturbing ritual.

I was waiting for you to have Chrysalis acquiesce to Cadance's request to spare Shining Armor, and here's why: Chrysalis says in A Canterlot Wedding that she intends to keep Shining in a trance indefinitely so she can harvest the love from him. Yet you have her plotting to kill him. Why the change? It begs some explanation. While you could go with AU, it seems like you're tying into canon, so that wouldn't work. For that matter, why does she care what a medical examiner would find? By then, she would have already given up her disguise and led the invasion. What difference would it make? Why would there still even be a medical examiner at that point? It implies a functional government, which she'd have to assume would be in a shambles by then.

Anyway, having her give in (and explaining a motivation for doing so) might give you a stronger conflict here, as what you mostly have going for you right now is "oh, that's why things turned out the way they did." What has Chrysalis gained by blabbing her plan? She could have just drugged Cadance and left her wondering why. Chrysalis would have some reason for making sure Cadance knew who had beaten her and why. Otherwise, it's the old cliched "villain explains her plans to the hero for no reason, except maybe to gloat." What was at stake? For Chrysalis, the answer is obvious, but the perspective is with Cadance. To use Chrysalis as the stakeholder, we'd have to see her uncertainty of this working and what bad thing would happen if she failed. I'm not sure that would belong here. Or on the character growth side, you could show how one of them changes as a result of this encounter. Cadance really wouldn't. She's opposed to this evil creature, but we can assume she would be anyway. But if we saw Chrysalis change in some way, won over by Cadance's argument, agreeing to some bargain, that might work. I'm not at all saying this is the best direction for your story. It's just an idea to illustrate the kinds of things that move a story forward. Now, you do have Cadance potentially getting into a situation where she would be tempted to cheat, but she never actually gets there. As soon as it starts heading that way, we get the big reveal, so she never actually faces a decision.

The biggest problem here was repetition, and I pointed out several kinds: word, sentence structure, choice of unsual speaking verb. One I'll look at in a little more detail is the "to be" verb. Here are your counts for the easier forms to search on:
was/wasn't: 54, were/weren't: 18, are/aren't: 7, is/isn't: 8, be/been/being: 53.
That's a rate of almost one every other sentence, and as I said, this count wouldn't have even caught them all. Consider that this is how often something isn't happening in the story. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. You should try to choose more active verbs.

You use a number of questionable and unusual speaking verbs, which causes two problems. First, the ones akin to laughing are weak anyway, but also get repetitive. Second, at some point, they call attention to themselves. They're nice here and there for flavor, but when they steal attention from the speech itself because the reader notices you're doing it so much, that's a problem, namely saidisms. There are a few bland speaking verbs that just blend in and pass by unnoticed, like asked, answered, said. You have about 150 quotes in your story, but only use "said" 17 times. That's not awful, but it does reinforce the point that I became very aware of your speaking verbs more so than the dialogue. I usually try to aim for a good balance of plain speaking verbs, unusual ones, and unattributed dialogue.

However, this was a well-written story overall, and I could see it getting posted on the blog. I'm a little stumped at the number of downvotes it's gotten.
>> No. 130470
>because that very morning. Apple Bloom and Sweetie Belle had managed//
Why is that period there? To proudly proclaim who pre-read ,and then have this in the first paragraph... ;-)

>After all, when you’re trying to enjoy your meal at Sugarcube Corner, the last thing you want is a foal screaming at the top of her lungs and running in circles for no reason whatsoever right next to you.//
It's worth avoiding having the narrator address me directly, unless he's going to make a habit of it.

>let’em//
Missing space.

>blame’em//
Why are you running 'em into other words as a contraction? It's an elision.

>of’er//
Same deal.

>snortled//
What is this?

>three hour//
Hyphenate the compound descriptor.

>Twilight took another sip.//
I've already seen this or something nearly identical to it 3 or 4 times, and I'm barely two screens in. Watch the repetition.

>Smack!//
It's preferred to keep sound effect out of narration. Better to describe it.

>...Yeah, I see your point.//
You're using these leading ellipses a lot, but they have a specific purpose: 1) the speaker is just becoming audible because they're getting nearer to the listener, the listener is waking up, etc., or 2) the speaker is completing a sentence that they had previously left hanging. You don't have either here.

>she informed//
This is a transitive verb and requires a direct object.

>Sweetie Belle just ran face-first onto the only tree for miles.//
Surely you meant "into." Otherwise, it wouldn't hurt.

>she’ll be able to work on the fields//
You probably should use "in" here.

>‘bout//
Smart quotes almost always get leading apostrophes backward, like they've done here. Add one after it, then delete the first. You do this a number of times, so be sure to sweep through for it.

>Tell me ‘bout it. Did I tell you about//
Repetitive.

>lil’//
Despite appearing like this in a lot of advertising, the proper spelling is "li'l."

>“Sweetie Belle!” she yelled, “come here for a second!”//
You've capitalized this as if the two parts of the quote make a single spoken sentence, but you've wedged end punctuation in there, so it can't work that way.

>I would try to tell you how smart your sister can be now and then, but right now she’s desperately fighting against the mud puddle and losing. Like, really losing against it. We’re talking crushing defeat here.//
This seems at odds with the work she's done with them during Twilight Time. There's comedic effect, and there's being mean. I don't see Twilight as ever willing to say anyone's dumb, and despite not doing so explicitly here, she's not putting up much of a fight. Plus Sweetie Belle probably has the best vocabulary of them all.

>Ah guess you do have a point in there.//
Lose the "in."

>Ah bet he’ll throw his wife through the window//
This is a really weak joke. It's an obvious reference, but it has no meaning without that. If it carried a double meaning, fine, but it wedges in a episode reference for no more reason than to just have it.

>high height//
Repetitive. You could just remove "high," and it would be fine.

>To Fluttershy’s?//
I'm a little lost as to what's happening here. Is this so they can house-sit for her when she goes to Dash's? You might want to make it clearer.

>will fall down that cloud mansion at least once//
I think there's a missing word in there. "from that cloud mansion" maybe?

This was a fun little story, and you should be good to go after addressing these few things. A couple of last comments, though.

The actions were pretty sparse during a lot of the conversation. For long stretches, I'd see little beyond speaking verbs. This makes a conversation lose its authenticity, besides skimping on all the nonverbal communication that goes on when people talk. And of the actions you did use, a disproportionate number were about them drinking, often in a repetitive manner. You used "sip" 10 times, for example. It very much stuck out to me. And you used three drinking actions for Applejack that were almost identical. Last is the bit about milking the goat. It's fine, in terms of allowable content, but it also sticks out as not fitting with the character of the rest of their conversation. Throwing in a single joke for shock value doesn't work when the rest of the story is so mellow. The conflict is on the weak side, but I like this as a character study, and Twilight does learn some lessons about sisterhood. Though I'll reiterate that she sinks to being derogatory toward the girls, which I don't see as supported by canon. As much eager learners as they are, I don't think she'd be that borderline insulting toward Sweetie Belle. For that matter, canon doesn't support her deliberately running into things and being so clueless about it. While you get some leeway for comedic absurdity, it's problematic to extend that to characters acting in ways that canon wouldn't justify, and Twilight is abiding being outright disrespectful to the girls.

Just submit again when you're ready, and I'll give it a quick scan.
>> No. 130488
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

A word about your opening paragraph: it has six "to be" verbs in it. While it's impractical to avoid this verb altogether, you should strive to use more active language where you can. This is an inherently boring verb. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what is. This is especially important at the beginning, where you're trying to grab the reader's interest. It's worth a sweep throughout the story, too.

>Sun…It
At the very least, put a space after the ellipsis (unless it begins a sentence). The accepted formats are... this, and ... this, and . . . this.

>down here//
This phrasing indicates he's still in Tartarus, be he's said he's up in Equestria now. Which is it?

>and if I did not flee//
Needs a comma to set off the dependent clause.

>had changed//
You're using this past perfect tense oddly. There are other applications, but the chief one is to narrate events that take place in the story's past, when it's narrated in past tense. You narrate in present tense, so you should use present perfect tense here (has changed).

>one pair of clothing//
Odd phrasing. And if the guards recognize what he is, why are they letting him pass?

>“State your business,” The unicorn of the two droned while trying to stifle a yawn, “or we will have to ask you to leave.”//
Dialogue capitalization. There's a section on that at the top of this thread. It gives examples of the most common forms. You have recurring problems with this.

>He sighed after a moment and turned to his partner, awaking him with a nudge, “Hey, go get the Captain//
You're punctuating this as an attribution, but you have no speaking verb. You can't just attach any action to dialogue with a comma. You also do this quite a lot.

>mon-I mean-someone//
Please use proper dashes, not hyphens.

>his tail flicked in annoyance//
I've caught you doing this a few times already. There's a section on show versus tell, too, which you should read. In short, get me to see annoyance through how he acts and looks, not just because you told me he was.

>I am no foe...” I lowered my hood, shaking my hair free of the constrainment, “...In fact//
It looks like you're trying to do a narrative aside in a quote. Here's how:
I am no foe—” I lowered my hood, shaking my hair free of the constrainment “—in fact
And I think you wanted "constraint."

>the guards jaws//
Missing an apostrophe.

>my siblings and I were one the few of our kind//
Missing word.

>lower ranked//
Hyphenate your compound modifiers.

>O-Of//
Unless it's a word that has to be capitalized anyway, only do so with the first part of a stutter.

>He trotted off across the bridge and I followed closely behind//
Needs a comma to separate the clauses.

>Let me check if she is in availible for you.//
Extraneous word, and a typo.

>because when the Captain finally returned//
Another comma needed for a dependent clause.

>I nodded and thanked him, before stepping through the doorframe//
And the opposite case. There is no new clause, so you don't need the comma. And "door frame" is two words.

>a breath I didn’t even know I was holding//
This is a very cliched thing. It broadcasts that you couldn't think of anything original to say.

>She took a sharp inhale//
"Inhale" isn't a noun.

>heart shaped//
Hyphenate the compound descriptor.

>I am suppose to be//
supposed

>I might even have been holding you all back from progression.//
Awkward phrasing.

On a plot note, why has she never tried to escape before? If Cerberus attacks her, so what? She can't die. If she gives it a shot every day for thousands of years, she's bound to make it sometime. While it's certainly not definitive, canon suggests that Celestia knows what's in Tartarus, so it might warrant some explanation as to why she wouldn't know Megan was there. Now, this is just a suggestion, but it might make the story more powerful if we see the beginnings of her getting what she wants. How does it feel? You're very vague with that part—just a "fading away" and her mind becoming "fogged." This should be a huge emotional moment for her, and it goes by very quickly. Really put yourself in her place and imagine all of the complex emotions she's feeling at that moment. Let them all come through, and then show me a little hint of the completion, something like she feels as if she's falling, then the darkness goes away, and she hears a familiar voice calling her name. Again, these are just suggestions, but they're an example of how you could handle this.

You also gloss over this encounter with the Furies that led to her curse. I'll be a lot more invested in her predicament if I know more about how and why that happened, and particularly how she felt about it. I'd expect at the very least plenty of emotional cues from her while recounting the story. It's more difficult to connect with an extensive past like this through narrative summary than by anecdote or flashback, but if that's the direction you want to take, it could work. Though it might feel a little too wedged in to have her enter flashback mode in the midst of her discussion with Celestia. Perhaps it would fit better during her journey there, as that still wouldn't force you to reveal who she is yet.

Even her meeting with Celestia goes by rather quickly. They haven't seen each other in thousands of years, and they can only come up with about a page and a half's worth of things to say to each other?

I'm not entirely sold on the last line. While it's a nice juxtaposition, it suggests that only by going to Hell could she have achieved paradise. But that's not the case, is it? All her loved ones are there, and she presumably would be as well, if she had died normally. I think you're on the edge of having something good to say here, but that's not quite it.

While the plot could use a tune-up, it's really the pervasive mechanical issues and the need for more emotional depth that are the biggest problems. If you don't understand these explanations, please ask or take advantage of the reviewing resources referenced in the Editor's Omnibus, linked at the top of this thread.
>> No. 130490
>>130488
Thank you for your review. This was written for a WTG, so I did rush it. I wasn't planning on submitting this story originally, and only did so because someone thought I should, so it's not my best work. Thank you regardless.
>> No. 130491

Last edited at Thu, May 22nd, 2014 10:30

>> No. 130516
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Nice opening scene. You have my attention.

My second impression is that I'm awash in "to be" verbs. They're all over the place just a few paragraphs in. These are inherently boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. This is especially important at the beginning of the story, where action will hold the reader's interest. I usually save this for the end, but here are your counts for the easier forms to search:
was/wasn't: 41, were/weren't: 21, are/aren't: 4, is/isn't: 5, be/been/being: 20. That's about one every other sentence, so that's how often something isn't happening. I think it would serve your story well to choose more active verbs.

>two-hundred burrows//
No reason to hyphenate that.

>As a nymph my sisters and I//
She and her sisters were a single nymph?

>I had taken a hoof-full of burrows who could barely stop hating and raiding each other long enough to prevent their slow extinction from inbreeding and starvation,//
I agree with that comma. But you need to pair it with one at the beginning of the clause, before "who."

>waded into boiling shallows//
Missing a "the"?

>One such changeling was Hythacine. We had known each other since earliest nymphhood.//
Let me make this clear: this is merely my opinion. I offer it only as something I think will improve your writing in this story, but you can take it or leave it as you wish. It will not affect whether your story gets posted.

This feels like a very strange tangent for me. Here's why: Chrysalis is telling someone this story, but I don't know who. Am I eavesdropping as she tells someone else? Or is she speaking to me? The distinction is often unimportant. It's implicit in most first-person narration that the character is speaking to someone, but it's usually not explicit, so it's easy to sweep that under the rug, though some scholars will say you never can. So, at one end of the spectrum, we have a first person narrator who tells her story. Period. On the other end, we have one who interacts with the reader, invites him in to hear her tale, asks him how he's doing, and frequently breaks into the story to ask if he'd like a drink. The latter rarely works in isolation. It begs the questions of who am I, why does she want to tell me this story, why do I want to listen, where are we and what are we doing as I listen? So a story that adopts a tone of a dialogue between the narrator and reader takes some justification for the reader's presence. This tangent really feels like a conversational one. The narrator is motivated beyond just getting her tale told—she's letting her mind wander and taking me on the trip with her. This fits much more with her sitting down in a room with me and regaling me with her story than just making a record of it for whoever might want to read it, or even musing to herself. This will not bother most readers, but I think taking this into consideration really makes a richer experience. You should think about going without such a conversational affectation or justifying it.

>saving my children and I//
This is a common error for people deathly afraid of misusing "me," but it's actually the correct choice here. It's part of the compound direct object of the verb "saving," so it needs to be in objective case. To use a standardized testing conceit, I:we::me:us. So, would you say "saving we" or "saving us"? The first-person pronoun will take the same case.

>wound so that our companions would not see how badly wounded//
Watch the word repetition.

>her family’s life//
Lives, yes?

>burrow — she//
Since you're going with em dashes, don't put spaces around them. Or you could switch over to en dashes.

>I would have flayed each of my progenitors a dozen times over to save her once.//
You used "flayed" not long ago. The more unusual a word is, the more space you have to give it before using it again, or it sticks out in the reader's head, and he notices the repetition.

>niaids//
Naiads, yes?

>pyrrhic//
In this sense, it's capitalized (lower case refers to poetic meter).

>But if I have learned anything in the months since the Strangest Day//
Comma after the dependent clause.

>it’s that loss can make you choose what you long for//
For the reasons I already discussed at length, it can be problematic for the narrator to address the reader unless it will be habitual and put in context. It can be difficult to avoid at times, but it can also be worth avoiding that can of worms.

>Powerful tools of magic that gave the ponies their strength//
Why is this capitalized?

>The scientists in Canterlot told me later that Discord’s inhibition wave had played havoc with their immune systems, and turned the most minor of infections into ones that even the strongest of changelings could not hope to withstand.//
In contrast to my last comment about commas, there is only a single clause here, so the comma isn't required.

>He had been blinded in one eye, his left ear was torn and half hanging off, and was using magic to support a broken leg.//
Note the placement of the various clauses' subjects. You're saying that his ear was using magic to support a broken leg.

>forty-four//
The coincidence that he saved the exact same number of ponies before and after she noticed him is too extreme to be plausible. It just makes the whole thing feel contrived.

>He wished to make love to me//
This also feels rather forced and engineered to extract sympathy from the reader rather than sound realistic. At least you do make the case that he's behaving in a way she didn't expect, but I have to believe he wants to do this with Chrysalis because he appreciates that she's helping him, not because he looks like Cadance. Still, it's a reasonable doubt she has, so I'm glad she doesn't let him, but it's not clear how well he even knows her, or which reason she's using to deny him. Because of the roles they played, he probably knows who she is, but I have no sense that they've ever met before, so this is really jumping the gun.

>keep Cadance and I//
There's that "me" thing again.

>You took risked everything because there was so little to lose and so much to be gained.//
Addressing the reader again. And a bit of jumbled wording.

>they are all that keeps you going//
Number mismatch. "All" can be plural or singular, but it has a plural antecedent here.

Just resubmit when you're ready, and I'll give it a quick scan.

Last edited at Wed, May 28th, 2014 19:37

>> No. 130521
>>130516

I've made several fixes, most of them the technical issues you pointed out. I've kept some things, however.

The few 'and I' bits I've kept constant, as the technically correct way does not sound as grand and full of pomp. Chrysalis is telling a memoir, a history of her nation, and an autohagiography of her role as the sacred leader of the changeling nation. She'd go for arch over Strunk and White any day.

Again, much of the passive 'to be' stuff is intentional. It's a fantastical history, not a thriller. Look at this speech from Conan the Barbarian:

>The ashes were trampled into the Earth, and the blood became as snow. Who knows what they came for... weapons of steel, or murder? It was never known, for their leader rode to the south, while the children went north with the Vanir. No one would ever know that my lord's people had lived at all. His was a tale of sorrow.

Put that all in active voice and you get a paragraph that reads twice as quickly and loses all of its power.

Same deal with the numbers and repetitions of certain words. The numbers in this story are perhaps not meant to be any more accurate than the idea of 144,000 virgins in Revelation, or 40 days and 40 nights of rain.

Finally, Shining Armor's suddenness. The mourning took place after Discord had been defeated, and the changelings had been openly working with the Equestrians to defeat him. As the two high ranking military leaders during the defence of Equestria, it's likely that Chrysalis and Shining Armor would have crossed paths on more than one occasion, as she implies when she mentions seeing him rescue four scores of ponies.

That's about it. Thank you very much for the review, it was incredibly helpful as far as the technical side is concerned. I spent all night with various tweaks and suchlike. Do I simply resubmit at this point?

Thanks again,

Chuck.
>> No. 130532
>>130521
I'm going to send up your story for posting anyway, because it's good, and because if you listened to everything I said, then you'd have a story which most suits me. I would still like to address a couple of your points, if only to give you some food for thought.

The "and I" is fine if that's an affectation Chrysalis has. There's perfect grammar, and there's grammar perfect for the character. Liberally sprinkling semicolons through a child's speech may be correct, but it does not at all evoke childlike dialogue. So if your mental picture of Chrysalis has her using this deliberately or not knowing the rule, then more power to you.

The "to be" stuff and the quote from Conan... Well, that quote only uses 3 such verbs. It does have plenty of active language (in my opinion, the "it was known" would be better served with an active structure). "to be" verbs do have their place, and it's impractical to avoid them altogether, but they are less engaging. They do have a way of working for grandstanding, and point taken that Chrysalis is trying to convey a grand history, but this causes a couple of hiccups for me. If she's really trying to impress this much, then it inflates my earlier point about who her audience is. And it creates an inconsistent feel, since she's going from these very personal moments to this epic of history. The two would seem to have different purposes and audiences. It's certainly possible for a story to be both, but in one this short, it doesn't have the space to blend back and forth, and it creates more of a mood whiplash than a meandering feel. At least for me. The use of exaggerated numbers is along the same vein again. One minute, it's a very intimate portrait, and the next, it's a Klingon warrior telling of exploits on the battlefield.

I had pretty much figured out that Shining Armor and Chrysalis must have met before, but leaving that completely for the reader to intuit weakens the effect for me. If they had more of a history together, it'd lend strength to why she wants to help him in particular over just wanting to help any given ally. To wit, if he means that much to her, wouldn't he have been on her mind more? If that was such an important part if her life, it's strangely absent until it needs to be introduced for the plot to work, and the effect is to lessen the impact.

So I hope this helps in some way. Maybe you don't agree, and that's fine. I at least hope it gets you thinking the next time you write. And it's a testament to the story that I'm able to dig into these deeper issues rather than spend my time harping at you about badly punctuated dialogue and sloppy characterization. These abstract issues are the difference between a good fic and a wow! fic.


Oh, and you didn't get a strike. Nowadays, those are only for stories that have numerous problems and come back without addressing them in any appreciable manner. This was a "Mars," or "needs no more than a cursory glance to approve posting when it returns."

Last edited at Thu, May 29th, 2014 16:41

>> No. 130610
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>she hadn't laid//
Lay/lie confusion. This is a tricky one. You need "lain" here.

>The shadows made shapes of monsters and demons, before vanishing as her imagination searched for new patterns.//
This is a nice moment, but you suggest so much without actually doing anything. I think it would do you well to linger here. What other shapes does she see? Does her state of mind influence what she sees, or does she let the shapes instead guide her thoughts? How does she feel about what she sees? There's rich ground for a character moment here.

>was - once again - going//
Please use proper dashes, not hyphens.

>woollen//
woolen

>On it//
You're more "in" a picture than "on" it.

>The edges had been blackened slightly, and the frame itself had been shattered beyond all repair//
I don't see the point of the passive voice here. It's unnecessarily circuitous, and while rephrasing is usually the remedy, you could simply remove the "been" in both cases.

>Moon//
Why is this capitalized?

>felt felt//
copied word

>She felt the grain of the wood beneath her hooves, and saw her familiar telescope standing in front of her.//
See the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread. Basically, you have a compound structure here, not a new clause, so you don't need the comma.

>Tirek's magic was just as ancient, would he be able to do the same?//
Comma splice.

>Fear gripped Twilight's body.//
Read the section on show versus tell, too. Basically, don't just say she was afraid. Get me to conclude it through her actions and appearance.

>Grab whatever valuable you can find.//
"Valuables," yes?

>Then ashes and wreckage.//
By setting this whole scene off (preferably with a bbcode [hr]), you've already obviated the need to put the whole thing in italics. For one, there are more effective ways of hinting to the reader that it's a flashback, the most obvious being that the reader will already know her fight with Tirek came before taking up residence in the castle. But also consider that italics are meant to make things stand out. They just get irritating when everything does. It might be okay for a small number of lines, but an entire scene is too much.

>neither could tell//
Be very careful with your perspective here. Read the section on head hopping. This line gets into both of their heads, but Twilight had been holding the perspective in this scene. For example, only she would be aware of this:
>Twilight had meant to make an effort to bow to her elder.//

>"Twilight..." Luna began, but Twilight cut her off.//
If you really mean that to be a cutoff, use a dash, not an ellipsis.

>And then she would defeat them.//
Defeat whom? Just Tirek, right?

>looking her in the eye now, a look//
Watch the word repetition.

>She felt like she was growing.//
Given that you'e using a limited narration, why not let the narration itself carry more emotion? She's stating an awful lot of these things very factually. It leaves things with a bit of a dry feel.

>away and never given it back//
You don't need that "it."

>Who was this feeble filly?//
Twilight wasn't exactly a filly when this happened. Is Luna using the term in an endearing way? Because it's not accurate...

>Princess'//
This is not technically wrong, but the traditional way is "Princess's." The strongest argument I can make for the traditional way is that even though people may spell it this way, they rarely say it this way, especially for shorter words like "boss." But it has gained acceptance, and if you want to keep it this way, you can.

This is an interesting take on why Twilight gave up her magic. It's a little rushed, and while I only pointed out one example of telly language, there's quite a bit of it in there, which lessens its emotional impact. The only other major complaint I have is the large number of "to be" verbs. These are inherently boring. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. You should choose more active verbs where possible. Of the easier forms to search, I counted 136. You're using them at a rate of about one every other sentence. That's how often something doesn't happen in your story.
>> No. 130622
>>130610
Thanks for the advice! I went through and tried to correct all the issues you mentioned, as well as adapt the criticisms you had to the rest of the story in general. Some of the mistakes I should have caught, some I owe to the fact that I write in plain text (no dashes, for one, but I'll make sure to use -- in the future and then find/replace it when I post), and some I admit are problems that often get pointed out to me in my writing.
I've re-submitted it with the changes, I hope it's improved some, and if ti's not ready for posting, I'll just keep working, or try harder with my next story :D
The issue of the 's after a word that that ends in s is a debatable one. My own first name ends in an s, so I always was taught (and am very used to) leaving off the additional s. This article summarizes the issue rather well http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/apostrophe-catastrophe-part-two
Once again, thanks for being such a help, and here's to a successful submission in the future!
>> No. 130696
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Don't worry,” Sweetie Belle chirped//
Missing your opening quotation marks. Maybe this is a format thing you're doing, but I've seen these :illuminated" first letters include it.

>Applejack encouraged//
Transitive verb needs a direct object.

>to not//
Swap these. It's an easy infinitive not to split, and it just sounds awkward.

>Applejack turned to Sweetie Belle, eyeing the knife the young unicorn still held in her magical clutches.//
Note that participles like to modify the nearest prior object, unless they start a clause, in which case they modify the subject. So by default, you're saying Sweetie Belle is eyeing the knife. If it had been an inanimate object in the sentence there, we could apply a bit of logic to assume you meant Applejack. But since both possible objects are characters, it could plausibly be either of them. In some cases, that ambiguity may never get relieved. At least in this case, you do give us enough info to sort it out, but the sentence is misleading until we get there, and you don't want readers having to reread the sentence to understand it.

>she added upon seeing Rarity's upturned eyebrow.//
Watch your perspective. You started the story in Applejack's head, but unless couched as being her perception of this, it feels like you've moved into Sweetie Belle's head. Then take what soon follows:
>The older unicorn seemed unconvinced.//
This also smacks of being in Sweetie Belle's perspective. You don't want to change perspective unnecessarily, too often, or too rapidly. Read the section on head hopping at the top of this thread.

>Applejack asked as a knife and platter zipped through the air.//
I'm barely a screen into the story, and this is already the seventh "as" clause I've encountered. They're clumped together, too, as half of your first ten sentences had one. If you fall into ruts like this, it makes your writing feel repetitive. "As" clauses are also commonly overused by inexperienced authors. Likewise with participles.

>Applejack leaned against the table, catching Rarity's eye.//
And as I was saying, this is already the fifth participle I've seen, and they're somewhat clustered, too, which gives an impression of being even more locally repetitive.

>She trailed off//
Trailing off and getting cut off are things you typically shouldn't reiterate in the narration, since we can already tell from the punctuation.

>Rarity looked at her sibling with pride.//
I've seen a little of this, too. Read the section on show versus tell. You don't always have to show, but this is a pretty important moment in setting up the characters' motivations. What does this look like? Paint me the picture and let me draw the conclusion.

>lead on//
The past tense of "lead" is "led." (You do this in multiple places.) But based on the phrasing, I believe you wanted "let on."

>in a display of mock astonishment//
Here's the narrator making a conclusion on my behalf again.

>“From mine own sister? Why, I do declare!”//
This is... schizophrenic. Victorian and nineteenth-century southern American?

>sis//
When using this as a term of address, capitalize it.

>It was a simple thing, but it warmed the earth pony's heart more than she could say.//
A word about "to be" verbs: boring. It's much more interesting to rad about what happens, not what is. You should be choosing more active verbs. It's impractical to eliminate them altogether, but this paragraph alone contains six of them. It brings the feeling of forward motion in the story to a halt.

>Applebloom//
Apple Bloom

>as a way to hide her embarrassment//
Applejack holds the perspective here, and it sounds odd that she'd be willing to admit it. She might be a little more indirect, like it's hiding her face.

>“Yes,” Rarity smiled.//
How does one smile a sentence?

>enjoying each other's company and the smells and sounds of spring that were ubiquitous in the orchard.//
So show me some of this. What they feel and what smells they notice give quite a bit of insight to their characters, since they'd likely have very different reactions. Hay, for instance, would probably call up far different imagery for Applejack than Rarity. And of course, you may well have to limit yourself to AJ's impressions here, since she's the perspective character.

>“Darling, whatever do you mean?”//
And here's the crux of the dissonance here. Rarity is at once saying they've kept it from Sweetie Belle because she might react badly, and in her next breath, is oblivious to a suggestion that Sweetie Belle might find it odd. She's playing both sides of it here, and it doesn't quite ring true.

>She licked the earth pony's cheek.//
This is weird. Is she trying to rub off a smudge? Or is this supposed to be some form of kiss? It's just left out there without explaining it as either, and it's really awkward.

>jasmine//
Capitalize, as it's the first word in the quote that we get from her.

>She could still picture, exactly, Rarity's eyebrows rising higher and higher as her eyes widened, her mouth open ever so slightly as Applejack regaled the astounded unicorn with a list of her favorite teas, the appropriate season in which they should be brewed, and the attending amount of tea leaves, per cup, that she found to be most satisfactory.//
And now you have two "as" clauses in the same sentence. Since they synchronize actions, you also have a lot of things fighting each other for chronology here.

>the purple coils of the unicorn's mane falling like silken ribbon against her own rustic coat. Beneath her, the century-old, stoic rumblings of the apple tree seemed to pulse reassuringly.//
Another problem with perspective: If you're going to use a limited narrator, you have to take care that the narrator resemble the character, at least vaguely. But these aren't word choices I could see Applejack making, let alone judging her own coat as "rustic."

>Applejack was silent for a long time//
In the lines leading up to this, Applejack's describing something that should be alarming to her: growing apart from family. Yet there's precious little evidence that it bothers her. Just one sigh and grinding teeth. Is she reluctant to admit this? Or does she show any more outward signs of it? Hold it in? It passes by without comment quickly enough that it's hard to assign much importance to it.

>The unicorn leaned back against the tree, wrapping her hooves around the earth pony's neck//
Alright, it's time to call you out on the Lavender Unicorn Syndrome. There's a section on that at the top of this thread, too. We know Rarity is a unicorn and Applejack is an earth pony. Saying so doesn't add anything.

>My parent's businesses//
She only had one parent?

>the one's closest to you//
Unnecessary apostrophe.

>she soothed//
Another transitive verb that needs a direct object.

I've already made most of the points I wanted to in the details, which only leaves one. The issue oddly goes from how everyone will regard their relationship (and it's only mentioned that their sisters don't know—do other ponies around town?) to whether Apple Bloom should get a chance to see the world. There's never a connection made between the two, and the first is never resolved. It feels vaguely disconnected and unsatisfying. The former is also the one that involves some sort of real conflict. Just having Applejack feel better about being with Rarity is on the weak side, as we can assume they wouldn't be together if it weren't already something Rarity didn't care about and Applejack didn't feel was worth pushing.

And watch the narrative voice. It really deviates from what Applejack could be expected to say. Since it's not first-person, I wouldn't recommend taking on her accent, but general word choice and intelligence level, yes. He sounds a lot more highbrow than she would.
>> No. 130782
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

So, good news here. I think this is a cute story, and I haven't seen this format done before. It could use some fixing up, though, so I hope that having to redo the text in the graphics isn't a big deal.

The detailed stuff:

>Flying out to the epicentre of the spectral arc, we visited the Summer Flight Camp//
A participle implies concurrent action, so they're flying there at the same time they visit.

>“It was a sonic rainboom!” said young Cirrus Swirl, “Rainbow Dash did it!//
The way you've punctuated that, both parts of the quote would form a single sentence, but you obviously don't believe that, since you stick an exclamation mark in the middle of it.

>then - kaboom - there//
Please use proper dashes, not hyphens.

>Unfortunately Mr Rainbow Dash was not available for comment.//
The reporters flew all the way out there and couldn't be troubled to figure out that Dash is neither a "colt" nor a "Mr"?

>Questions have been asked as to whether she has the experience required to take on the leading role//
This is an incredibly vague thing to say, and where newspapers are pressed for space, they can't afford empty language.

>low lying//
Hyphenate your compound modifiers.

>The leader of the opposition Perfect Storm//
The appositive needs to be set off with commas, or it makes it sound like "Perfect Storm" is an opposition group.

>If we had seen a little less hot air and a bit more action from the mayor//
Set off the dependent clause with a comma.

>We’ve been saying for years that we need to boost recycling, and take waste reduction seriously//
Conversely, there's only one clause here, so you don't need that comma.

>sonic rainboom: A bright rainbow//
You only need to capitalize after a colon if it refers to multiple sentences.

>They would have to be really top flyer//
Missing word.

>appearing at the same time as a flyby by a fast pegasus. Some report a bright flash and other effects, but these would appear//
Watch the close repetition of "appear."

>The revival of interest in tales of chivalry//
While interesting, you're stretching credibility a bit to delve into this much of a history lesson on the front page. Newspapers want to cram as many big headlines as they can on the front and relegate the details to the continuations.

>high speed//
Needs a hyphen.

>The most famous experimenter was the maverick millionaire Buster Nimbus//
Needs a comma.

>fog, thunderstorms, and hail showers//
Be consistent about whether you use an Oxford comma.

>old mares' tale//
You're also inconsistent about the placement of the apostrophe here.

>the pegasus filly behind this story//
You need commas on both sides of an appositive.

>lightening//
While weather ponies could certainly create this effect, I believe you meant "lightning."

>lead//
The past tense of "lead" is "led."

>“We can make no further progress with the current trade minister,” she said, “he’s as stubborn as a mule.”//
Another case where you've punctuated the quote as if both parts form a single sentence, but they don't.

>one day//
Needs a hyphen.

>Red Rose said “The evidence is there for all to see.”//
Missing a comma.

>p20//
Inconsistent with the capital letters you've been using.

>Far-East//
No reason to hyphenate this.

>A TEENAGE PEGASUS was responsible for an outrageous act of high altitude vandalism yesterday//
I doubt she'd have been a teenager. She got her cutie mark doing that, which would place her about the same age as the present-day CMCs. They're portrayed as quite a bit younger than teenagers.

>Then in a foalish hoax boasted that she had created a sonic rainboom.//
I doubt a professional reporter would use sentence fragments in an article.

>well known//
Hyphenate.

>fillies”,//
Comma goes inside the quotes.

>school for gifted unicorns//
Wouldn't this be capitalized?

>Twilight Sparkle, a foalhood friend of Princess Mi Amore Cadenza//
Minor thing, but Twilight knew her very well, and yet didn't know that was her full name. Is it public knowledge?

>examiners notes//
Missing apostrophe.

>rainbow coloured//
Hyphenate.

>The demon spirit, imprisoned in the crystal then spoke to her//
There is no reason for that comma to be there.

>Daring Do and the Quest for the Sapphire Stone//
As a book title, this should be underlined or (preferably) italicized.

>with note on the door//
Missing word.

>P.3//
More inconsistent format.

>the Canterlot lawyer assigned to defend Miss Dash//
Another appositive that needs commas on both sides.

>physically harassing other students; being absent from class without good reason; and behaving in a way to bring the school into disrepute//
None of the list items have their own commas, so there's no reason to use semicolons here.

>Many reporters continued to ask her questions//
That just seems like a vague and pointless thing for an article to say. See my earlier comment about not wasting space on the front page.

>Her defence lawyer Twinkie Tulkinghorn explained://
You sure use this phrasing a lot. It's getting awfully repetitive.

>late night//
Needs a hyphen.

>Council of Equestrian Regions//
Different capitalization than you used in the previous paper.

>much needed//
Needs a hyphen.

And to broader things.

You have Suri Polomare as an adult here, but she certainly appeared to be the same age as Rarity, and her association with Rarity might indicate that as well. But you have Rainbow Dash still as a very young filly.

Likewise, you have Daring Do books existing when Rainbow Dash was still a filly, implying Daring Do was going on adventures and a gifted writer already, yet she doesn't appear in canon to be any older than Dash. For that matter, you also imply that Lyra and Octavia are significantly older than Dash. In contrast, I thought it a rather nice touch that Cheerilee wasn't the teacher.

The rainboom was supposed to have spread all across Equestria, but we only get very local takes on it from Ponyville, Cloudsdale, Canterlot, etc. Would it be possible to have a little more comprehensive coverage, say from Appleloosa, on what a more diverse cross-section of ponies thought?

The last item is that the graphics are nearly impossible to read. I have to click on the images to blow them up, which meant I had to scroll sideways as well as down, and I had to back up a page to click to the next chapter. I don't know what FiMFiction's limits are on picture size and storage, but it'd make it much easier to read if you sized the picture to fit the screen better by default.

I did want to bring up a couple of other reservations I had but that I ultimately decided I could overlook. There really isn't much of a conflict here. Really the only thing at stake was whether Dash would get in trouble, but the treatment of that is so distant (and really, what lawyer would criticize his own client?) that it's not engaging as a conflict. It also spends a significant amount of space rehashing events and accounts we already know from canon. If not for the unique angle, this would be a problem. But at least on the conflict front, we do get a little in the form of this side narrative about the strike.

As I said, this is a cute story, and I'd like to see it posted. Just resubmit it when you're ready, and I'll have another glance.
>> No. 130783
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>She decided to keep an eye on her friend, and try to puzzle out what was so unnerving about what she had seen.//
>Pinkie answered, and started walking.//
Here are a couple of instances where it's all a single clause, so you don't need a comma with the conjunction.

>Cause I didn’t see it coming//
Needs an apostrophe for the elision. And watch it. Smart quotes like to draw leading apostrophes backward.

>Rainbow Dash seemed to brighten a little.//
Watch the perspective. Your story has been told from Dash's point of view so far, but this is external to her. She wouldn't make such a comment about how she seemed to look, since she knows exactly how she feels.

>Rainbow hovered next to Pinkie, but seemed a little afraid to touch her.//
Same thing again. But more than that, it's a little vague. What exactly does she do to make her seem afraid?

>Laying on the floor//
Lay/lie confusion.

>Rainbow and Spike quickly ran to a closet and began to clean up the mess//
Either she puked in the closet or you're missing some character action there.

>Pinkie was lying helpless on the floor//
Well, you got the verb right this time, but it's the same action you already had her do earlier in the paragraph.

>but Pinkie was still lying there//
...for the third time in two paragraphs.

>…oh dear//
Capitalize. She's not picking up an earlier sentence she'd left hanging.

>Rainbow Dash saluted and was out the door in a flash. Twilight turned to Spike, who was just putting away the cleaning supplies. “Spike, come help me. Let’s clean Pinkie up.”//
And here's another thing you have to watch with perspective. You'd been in Dash's, so once she leaves, she can't see what's happening here anymore. And it's really not worth transitioning to someone who can just to justify three sentences. There's a rationale behind this in the head hopping section at the top of this thread.

>Pinkie Pie was still washing when a knock on the door came.//
That's a big change. She was pretty much incapacitated, and now she can manage on her own? And Dash isn't surprised by the improvement?

>Twilight turned to her research, disturbed by Zecora’s remarks.//
Consider what this says. Only Twilight would know this, unless you present it as someone else interpreting her actions this way. It's okay to switch to her across the scene break, but it's a good idea to establish earlier in the scene who will hold it. That's why I didn't say anything about the first couple of sentences, which described things Dash couldn't see—I was waiting to see if she was still the perspective character. You don't want to leave me hanging like that unless the story had taken a decidedly omniscient tone from the start.

>Rainbow let go of her and she wobbled slightly.//
Here's an example of one that does need a comma, since there are two distinct subject/verb pairs, i.e., clauses. There are examples in the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>she chuckled//
It's starting to get grating (and repetitive) how often you use laughing as a speaking action.

>“Do you remember when you cloned yourself in the mirror pool?”//
This'll take a bit of explanation, I'm afraid. Her clones didn't share her memories. She had to teach them about Ponyville and her friends. Now it's possible she did clone herself. The plot suggests that the early clones did go back to do so, but I still don't see how she wouldn't know she was a clone due to lack of any memories before that day.

>You’d have to dive back into the pool. You would dissolve, and your memories would go back to the other Pinkie. If we brought her back out, then, she would have this Pinkie’s memories as well as her own.//
If that's true, wouldn't Pinkie have accumulated all the memories of all the clones? If not, then why not? At this point, I'll also encourage you to read the section on saidisms.

>“Well, Twilight… You see, thinking is like – is like making cupcakes.”//
...And the section on talking heads.

>… No.//
Don't leave a space after a leading ellipsis.

>18//
Write out numbers that short.

>The pair walked into a clearing and found themselves facing the mirror pool.//
They got there awful quickly...

>The pair walked into a clearing and found themselves facing the mirror pool.//
This is the first indication of perspective we get in the scene, with the possible exception of this:
>Twilight closed her eyes to suppress a tear//
The scene has been pretty omniscient. I'd encourage you to keep a consistent and clear perspective.

>I’m sorry Pinkie//
Needs a comma for direct address.

>For a moment, Twilight was paralyzed with fear. What if the real Pinkie didn’t come out? What if she didn’t want to? Or maybe she was dead after all?//
And now you're back in Twilight's head.

This was a nice idea, albeit one that's not exactly original. Still I liked it, but I think it's hampered by two main things.

First is the shifting and unclear perspective. Yes, all the characters have feeling, but there are ways of getting at those while staying within only one of them. She can interpret what she reads from the others, and you can get just as clear an emotional picture as if you'd jumped around to all of them. But by staying with a small number, the reader gets better settled with that one and identifies with her better. So when I spend portions of such a short story in Pinkie's head as well as Twilight's and Dash's. I never get that thorough a picture of any of them.

The other is related, but what emotional information I did get was fleeting. It was a very factual story and didn't dwell that much on how the characters felt. And be careful there—you might want to read the section on show versus tell to avoid the common pitfalls there.

But here's a long-time friend of Dash's, and she doesn't agonize much over what's happening. In fact, she's pretty quick to condemn the clone, then snap right back to considering her a friend. What's going through her head, either because I'm there with her or because I'm with another character who witnesses her behavior and describes it in a way that I can tell how she feels. Likewise, when Twilight knows the truth, but she's acting very stoically as Pinkie comes back from washing up—how does she feel there? Torn up about her friend? Scared to tell her the truth? Dash had to drag the explanation out of her, but Twilight didn't seem too upset about it. In short, really put yourself in each character's place and decide how you'd feel about the situation. You need to make those clear, authentic, and complex emotions come out of your writing. I think you're up to it, or I wouldn't have given you detailed feedback like this.

One other thing I'll mention is that Twilight very quickly figures out that the illusions will dissipate. If the information was that readily available, why didn't it come up back in the same time frame as the episode? Sure, she probably wouldn't want to leave that many Pinkies running around if she knew it'd take a year for them to disappear, but it's never even discussed.
>> No. 130790
>>130783
First of all, thanks for taking the time to read and respond in such detail to my story. It's my second pony story ever (and my first submission to EQD), so I'm happy it's been able to come this far already.
Most of your critique is valid and well taken. I got a little careless with the grammar, I will admit, and some of the action and speaking is unclear or repetitive. Some others complained about the pacing of the story, which is also a possible issue. However, two things you mentioned might do with a little more attention.
The first thing is the perspective. I usually write with an omniscient narrator, as I tried to do here. The fact that someone with as much experience as you mistook that narrator to be speaking from Rainbow's perspective means that I messed up pretty seriously, somehow. Do you have any advice on how to fix that?
Second, your plot/continuity objections to the story. It's true that the clones in the episode had no memory of Pinkie's past. Nonetheless, if I stuck rigidly to the episode's mechanics, there wouldn't be much of a story left. In fact, the episode itself has some problems with the mechanics, which I won't get into because I'm not here to rant. In short, I hoped to take some artistic license with the precise details of Pinkie's clones. If it detracts too much from the story I can come up with some excuses and throw them in, but I figured it's better to keep Twilight's lectures on quantum mirror mechanics and virtual Pinkies to a minimum.
Once again, thanks for your comments. I will take them to heart and make a thorough revision of the story. If I understand correctly, EQD's "strike system" that it occasionally mentions is no longer in effect, so once I've revised I can resubmit with impunity.
Anyways, thank you very much. I hope you enjoyed my story.>>130783
>>130783

-Suukorak
>> No. 130799
>>130790
Sorry it took me this long to respond. I've been off the reviewing grid for a couple of days.

Yes, our strike system is mostly gone. The only way you get a strike now is if after you resubmit, the reviewer can't tell that you put any effort into revision. Basically, if it has all the same problems in the same amounts, we'll give it a strike.

As to the narrator, you have to watch for places where he says things that only one character would know, and he phrases it as if it's from his experience rather than the character's. This actually doesn't come up that often, so I'll get to the more common issue: when the narrator expresses one of the character's opinions or emotions for her.

It's the difference between something like:
That was a big cake!

and

Pinkie thought that was a big cake
or
That was a big cake, Pinkie thought.

An omniscient narrator will be careful to attribute subjective judgments to the characters, while a limited one can state judgments as his own.

To throw a monkey wrench into the works, there are exceptions. Primarily, if the omniscient narrator is identified as a character himself, who generally has no direct involvement, but observes the action. Something like a god peering down and seeing what's happening. Then he can express opinions, as long as they're actually his. He still needs to separate his thoughts from the characters'.

Here are a few examples of narration that express opinions or thoughts that the character would have:

Rainbow Dash:
>It was magnificent to be up here, to be able to live and work every day in three dimensions. Then again, it was magnificent just to be Rainbow Dash. And this new move would prove it to them.

Unclear, but presumably Twilight (the narrator is making a judgment call in using "seem," where he should only be dealing in facts, if he's truly omniscient):
>Rainbow Dash seemed to brighten a little.

Either Dash or Twilight (the emphasis indicates an emotional reaction):
>And Pinkie rippled.

Pinkie (nobody else would know this about her, unless the evidence they observed to make the judgment is presented to me as well):
>It was all Pinkie could do to try to stay upright.

Dash (same deal—only she knows why she winced):
>Rainbow wincing with empathy

Granted, some of these can be pretty nitpicky. I'm not going to ding you for having a few of these, but I hope you get the picture. However, some are very blatant, like this one:
>Would she find that Pinkie was going to die?

Here, the narrator is presenting Twilight's internal thought for her. This is the very epitome of a limited narrator.

That said, a limited narrator may actually work best for a story that has a heavy emotional investment like this one. This is just my opinion, but I use limited narration most often, and I reserve omniscient for stories where you don't need to forge a deep connection between the character and the reader, like a light comedy or an action story. Even then, limited narration can still work. It's actually harder to write a purely omniscient story than people think. Most will naturally go to a shallow limited perspective that wavers between characters when they don't pay attention to it.

Finally, as to whether Pinkie would share memories with this clone or the previous ones... You could probably patch together a reasonable explanation in a couple of sentences, but this wasn't a big sticking point. Yes, it's normal to take liberties on a couple of points to make a premise, and if you don't address this, it's okay.
>> No. 130800
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>a look of puzzlement adorning her face//
Better to describe it to me and get me to figure out she's puzzled. There's a longer description in the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>A bit of anger welled up inside Fluttershy's heart//
Same thing again. This was a recurring issue with the story.

>Pinkie frowned and her hopping ceased.//
Also see the section on comma use with conjunctions. I've spotted a few of these throughout the story, both ones that need a comma and ones that shouldn't have one but do.

>shouting words of encouragement//
Repetitive with the use of "encouragingly" in the last paragraph, but honestly, I'd say to leave this alone and kill that previous adverb.

>Fluttershy breathed a sigh of relief.//
Telly, and of a specific type I noted in the show versus tell discussion. In short, you can lose the "of relief" without harming anything.

>Oh, hello little fellow.//
Needs a comma for direct address.

>awe inspiring//
Hyphenate the compound modifier.

>while still chirping//
This is the third mention of a chirp in as many paragraphs and the second in this one. It's getting repetitive.

>the energetic mare//
You just used such a descriptor for her in the last paragraph, and then you use one later in this paragraph to refer to Fluttershy. Read the section on Lavender Unicorn Syndrome.

>Both ponies eyes//
Missing a possessive in there.

>She shook her head as if trying to shake//
This is borderline, but it;s not really an effective simile that likens an action to itself.

>“She's bleeding really badly. I need to stop it!”//
Formatting issue with the line break here.

>tourniquet//
She has a head wound. I really don't think this is what she should be using.

>her’s//
There is no such word.

>She had long since had feelings for the pink menace she affectionately called Pinkie.//
You had me until here. It's an irrevocably cliched thing for two characters to have coincidentally secret feelings for each other that are both revealed when circumstances force it. Furthermore, it makes for uninteresting romance, as there's no struggle to get the relationship going. It's just ready-made. You have to do something to stand out from the ton of shipping stories we get, and so many have this exact type of plot.

>punchbowl//
Two words.

>gurneys//
This is much closer to a litter.

>The wooden gurney was finally ready for use, she only had one problem.//
Comma splice. You have two complete sentences stitched together with a comma.

>careful not to let her head move//
Descriptive phrases like this are usually set off with a comma.

>flexed his muscles//
He just did that. It sounds repetitive unless you do something to note the repetition so the reader knows it isn't just an oversight.

>Whut//
Don't go overboard on their accent. Really, how would this be pronounced differently that "what"? The reader knows what they sound like. He'll fill most of it in for you. It's more about phrasing and word choice than imitating the accent.

>"Excuse me, Fluttershy. Where's the patient?" Dr. Trotting asked.//
>The doctor nodded and galloped upstairs with his bag.//
These two have very different moods. In the first, he's bothering with pleasantries and doesn't seem overly concerned. In the second, he's acting like it's a dire situation. You need to be consistent.

>Pinkie Pie fell down the crossing//
Repetitive use of "crossing." But I have no reason to think AJ would know what she's talking about. She'd only mentioned taking Rarity up there before. So how would AJ know what she'd been doing or where she went? A short explanation of where it happened might do you good here for credibility.

>for awhile//
Minor point, but you need a noun to serve as the object of the preposition, so it should really be "a while" here.

>"Bye, doctor."
>
>"Thanks a bunch, doc!"//
These are essentially titles, so they should be capitalized as terms of address.

>Iff'n//
Just one "f"

>Oh yeah. I guess somepony should let 'em know. You run along and tell em, sugarcube.//
Inconsistent use of an apostrophe on "em."

>nig—//
Either get rid of the g or add the h. This suggests she actually pronounces the g.

>barely-audible//
You don't need the hyphen in a two-word phrase where the first is an -ly adverb.

>Rainbow Dash would have caught you!//
Why's she so fixated on Dash? Rarity or Twilight would have been able to help her too. Applejack, on the other hand... which is interesting, since she's the other one involved here.

>Hi Fluttershy!//
Missing comma for direct address.

>They each looked anxious//
How so?

>hovering around the room with a present.//
You already mentioned they had gifts.

>“Cool! I’ll race you to the top of the stairs!” Rainbow yelled, taking off at blinding speed.//
Look at how the structure of these exchanges gets repetitive. It's always "Dialogue," attribution, optional action.

>albeit, less enthusiastically//
No reason for that comma to be there.

>She put water in one, and a teabag in the other. As she put water on to boil//
Repetitive phrasing.

>She dropped a few cubes of ice into the glass of water and sat down, patiently waiting for the water to boil.//
Makes it sound like she's trying to boil the ice water.

>Y'all//
As a fully licensed southerner, I can say it's quite rare to hear this word used as a singular.

>and then, a blinding light//
No reason for that comma, either.

>The plate of cupcakes and water she prepared sitting in her outstretched hooves.//
It's okay to use sentence fragments for stylistic effect, but I haven't seen any until now, so it just feels out of place. They also work best as stream-of-consciousness things or follow-up comments, and this is neither.

>bed."//
Extraneous quotation marks.

>Would you... be my special somepony?//
The rushed agreement to start a relationship is pretty cliched, too.

>But,//
No comma.

The stylistic problems are mostly with the telly language. There are a few conversations that get talking heads (there's a discussion on that up top as well).

The bigger issue is that this is so much like any number of other stories we get. Two ponies secretly like each other but have never admitted it, something forces that information into the open, they declare that they like each other (perhaps after a bit of hoof-wringing), they start the relationship, the end.

You have to do something to stand out above that crowd. Here are a few things that pop into my mind immediately, and this certainly isn't a laundry list of things you have to do. It's just what I said: a few directions you could go that would make this story less of a cliche and more of an engaging read. Take them or leave them as you see fit.

The situation where Fluttershy finds out Pinkie likes her, and Fluttershy conveniently reciprocates, is present in so many shipping stories. It's more interesting when Fluttershy didn't suspect, so the story can delve into what she thinks about that. It can be a nice read to see her re-evaluate her attitude toward Pinkie now that she sees her in a different light. But be careful not to sink into the "do I really like mares?" angst. That's rather overdone, too.

We're also just thrown into a situation where they already like each other. We know they do simply because the narrator tells us so. But it's never proven to me. In some stories, this can mean backtracking to when they first meet to show the relationship grow from the beginning. In others, it can be through flashbacks or short anecdotes. For instance, the sight of a particular flower along the road might remind Fluttershy of a time something happened where she found Pinkie endearing. It's not enough just to put two characters together. You need to show me that they actually have chemistry together, that they have real reasons for liking each other, or it's a bland fact.

I suspect you don't want to take on a bigger scope to the story than you already have, but it's another cliche for the story to end right as the couple gets together, or has their first kiss, or whatever. That's really the beginning of the story. It's actually hard to find shipping stories that don't do this, however.

That said, the writing here wasn't bad at all, and the situational setup of having Fluttershy give Pinkie emergency treatment was a nice touch.
>> No. 130801
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Her beloved teacher looked angry.//
Best to show me how that looks and let me make my own judgment. There's an explanation in the show versus tell section at the top of this thread.

>P—Princess?//
Use a hyphen for a stutter.

>"Twilight Sparkle," Celestia's eyes sharpened, "you just had my sister relive the most painful memories of her life. She came to me in tears."//
You can't just wedge any item between quotes with a comma. It has to be a speaking action, otherwise punctuate it as an aside:
"Twilight Sparkle—" Celestia's eyes sharpened "—you just had my sister relive the most painful memories of her life. She came to me in tears."

>But, but she was having fun!//
You're kind of taking a revisionist history here. The episode felt more like Luna's appearance was by tradition from before her banishment and that was subsequently adapted afterward, not something Twilight engineered. This is particularly so because Twilight didn't seem to expect it. She acted more surprised at the nature of Luna's appearance, not excited. That would really require her to hold the idiot ball if she thought Luna would be comfortable playing that role without even asking her and preparing the townsfolk beforehand. Not every reader will have this problem with it, but I think it's a pretty big logical leap.

>Seeing how mortified Twilight was, she allowed herself to soften somewhat.//
Why are you switching to Celestia's perspective? You'd taken a limited point of view from Twilight's head. You have to consider perspective shifts very carefully. There's a rationale given in the section on head hopping at the top of this thread.

>I hear they make excellent pastries//
By "Luna Eclipsed," Celestia had already been there. She visited in "A Bird in the Hoof."

>Luna came out of her reverie and gasped, seeing how much she had upset Twilight.//
And now you're popping into Luna's head. You can still get at the emotions of both characters from a single perspective. One just has to be framed as the other's perception. Or if it really is necessary to change perspectives, at least stay there long enough to make it worthwhile.

>a single tear//
This is incredibly cliched.

>she cut off//
It's unnecessary to narrate cutoffs and trailing off, since it's already evident from the punctuation.

>I am pleased to have spent time getting to know my subjects; to have had fun with them.//
Misused semicolon. What follows it doesn't contain an independent clause.

>Luna was showing her that, in spite of everything, she had enjoyed the celebration as well as Twilight's company.//
This would carry a lot more power if we got to see at last one anecdote from it.

I liked the tone you struck, and the writing is good, but it has what I think is a pretty serious plot hole. It's a little below our required word count, and while we can waive that, we'll only do so for stories that stand out as exceptional.
>> No. 130821
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Twi//
When has Spike ever called her this?

>first century//
Needs a hyphen as a compound modifier.

>probably to go find his spelunking gear//
You haven't established a perspective until now, so you'd apparently chosen an omniscient narrator, but this dips into Twilight's head. Might want to make your perspective more consistent.

>quickly overtaken by a minor book avalanche//
How would this not get Spike's attention? He hasn't been gone long, so he couldn't be far away.

>pushing stray books to side//
Missing a word.

>heavily-faded//
Conversely, you don't need a hyphen in a two-word phrase with an -ly adverb.

>Insane Edicts: A Legal History of Equestria//
Book titles are underlined or (preferably) italicized.

>Twilight opened the book and read the inside of the cover where a short synopsis was written.//
Missing a comma for the dependent clause. This happens in the synopsis as well.

>known as one of the most respectable societies in the known//
Watch the word repetition.

>to chronicles//
Verb form.

>with detached disinterest//
The spot where we first meet this character is not the time to get telly.

>20//
Write out numbers this short.

>At least Luna had provided some entertainment.//
We don't get to see any of it? Just this oblique reference? That's pretty unsatisfying.

>Weather Pegasi Union//
Noun adjuncts are singular.

>a rather boorish pegasus stallion//
Given that he's speaking for a pegasus union, it's redundant to tell me he's a pegasus.

>started banging her hoof on the desk//
I've never seen much point in these "start" and "begin" actions that authors like to use so much. It's obvious that any given action will start. It's only worth mentioning if the beginning is noteworthy, as in an abrupt change or the action never finishes for some reason. Here, if you'd just said, "banged her hoof on the desk," what difference would it make?

>All the gathered senators looked up to see an angry Celestia, her mane like roiling water as it tumbled about.//
You started the scene in Celestia's perspective, so why are you backing out into a collective point of view of the assembly? And for only a single sentence?

>Worthington…shire…fields…ville//
Boo for Mr. Deeds reference.

>brows, but//
Extraneous space.

>half-eaten by the looks of it//
And again, from some unspecified perspective outside Celestia. I don't see a reason for this. If you don't want her holding the perspective, then pick a specific character to hold it, or keep things omniscient. Or if you have to change perspective, don't jump around frequently or abruptly. The rationale is given at the top of this thread in the section on head hopping.

>sounded like she was chewing on asphalt//
I have no idea what that would sound like. Other than clicking against her teeth, I suppose, but asphalt is just a hard substance. It wouldn't sound any different than any other hard object, so I don't know why you picked it. It doesn't serve a thematic purpose, and it wouldn't have any importance to her or the narrator, so I'm not sure what it achieves.

>which were far more interesting anyway, he assured himself//
And now into his perspective. You do get some leeway in comedy for doing so, but this is happening an awful lot, and the time you spent in a muddle of collective crowd minds was odd.

>only lasting about a month or so until Celestia finally got tired of the whole thing the government collapsed//
Syntax is off.

>eventually being rebuilt a week later just as it had been before//
Clunky to tack two participles together like you have here.

>read Twilight as she flipped to the last page in the chapter//
So was the preceding scene a flashback, or was it actually written in the book that way? Because I can't see a historical account including dialogue and switching perspective like that, but it comes across that way.

>the name of the author of the book//
A prime example of why these indirect possessions are so clunky. There are times when it's worth flipping them to create emphasis, but there's no reason here. "The author's name" is so much more direct and concise, and what does it lose?

>titled,//
This isn't dialogue. You don't need the comma.

>setting aside the paperwork for the orphanage she was filling out//
The ordering of your phrases inibits clarity here. It sounds like she's filling out an orphanage, whis is rather... grim.

>He looked nervous//
This telly language is hardly necessary, since you go on to describe him as looking nervous well enough anyway.

>nervous, Celestia could tell, from the way his eyes shifted about, and he shuffled his hooves nervously//
So, he's nervous, you say?

>your highness//
Capitalize the honorific.

>princess//
As a term of address, this would be capitalized.

>Staring out at the regal city of Canterlot, the breeze flowed through her mane.
A classic dangling participle. "Staring out at the regal city of Canterlot" describes Celestia, but she doesn't appear in the sentence. This explicitly says that the breeze stared at the city.

>“Moon gazing, I’ll make it illegal.”//
This gives her a rather antagonistic approach to her own sister which is completely unsupported by canon, and in fact directly contradicts it. Not that you can't go there, but you have to connect the dots to explain why she'd reasonably feel this way.

>captain//
Ranks and titles would also be capitalized as terms of direct address.

>which made him visibly uncomfortable//
How so?

>and had them all thrown into the Pit of Unspeakable Agony//
Missing a subject for this clause.

>Rushing back to her desk, she pulled out a quill and parchment, and started to write something down.//
That second comma is unnecessary, as it's just a simple compound structure. But here's another danger of participles: They imply concurrent action. She wouldn't pull out the quill and parchment and start to write until after she'd rushed over to the desk, but you have her doing them at the same time.

>million year//
Hyphenate the compound modifier.

>billion year//
Same.

>With more than a bit of trepidation, though it was tinged with a bit of guilty excitement//
The telliness has been doubled!

>an audible pop//
That would be true by definition, wouldn't it?

>Looking down at the plate, she saw what was left of the cake sitting there, untouched, unsullied.//
Three of the last four sentences have a participle. Well, one of them is an absolute phrase, but it still uses a participle construction. Watch the repetition.

>to fit anymore inside//
In this case, you need "any more" as two words. An adverb doesn't fit the syntax here.

>To which, of course, the mare knew the answer to.//
The final "to" is doubling the function of the opening "to which."

>“ Princess//
Extraneous space.

>then looked back to the mare, her eyes wide with terror//
This absolute phrase is misplaced to the point of being ambiguous. Whose eyes are wide? The grammar would say the mare, but I suspect you meant Celestia.

>though there was still icing streaked across her face, and crumbs stuck in her fur//
There's no reason for that comma.

>prin--//
You've been using proper dashes, so why stop now?

>could, Celestia//
Extraneous space.

>then a look of confusion came over her//
And what does this look like?

>all confectionary goods are now considered a national treasure and we will take the proper safeguards//
Here's a spot where you actually need a comma to seaparate clauses.

>grimace, she//
Extraneous space. You should probably ctrl-f for two spaces.

>Spike watched her leave, still somewhat in shock. It was only after she’d left the library completely that her request hit him. He looked around at all the books that littered the floor, the last remnants of a decaying book castle. “Oh man…”//
So why are you shifting to his perspective for the grand total of one short paragraph?

>Twilight shuffled her hooves, hiding the book behind her back.//
Wouldn't this require her to be standing on two legs? Otherwise there isn't a "nehind her back."

>She took a deep breath, and pulled the book out//
Another unnecessary comma.

>mid sentence//
Needs a hyphen.

>“—stand…” finished Twilight//
The ellipsis and the choice of "finished" are fairly incongruous.

>he turned around to see a book lying in the grass//
If she's been so thorough as to destroy every known copy of the book, is she really going to be so reckless as to throw it out the window? I mean, what did she think would happen? She could have easily set it ablaze right there. And by not having her even entertain Twilight's questions, you really haven't brought closure to this story arc. It just... ends. There's no conflict, and none is really hinted at. Unless there's the possibility of them getting into an argument about it, that is. More so, there was a potential for character growth here. A minor amount on Twilight's part as she re-evaluates her perception of Celestia, but more on Celestia's part as she tries to explain herself and maybe expresses regret or defiant pride for her prior actions. It's a cute enough set of scenes, but it's essentially a very similar joke three times without any payoff. What with the outlandish tales and inexplicable city of books, I expected this would be some character assassination on Discord's part. But in the end, what did it matter that this story happened? What's different afterward than before? Twilight probably is vaguely leery of Celestia, but that's about it.

Last edited at Sat, Jun 28th, 2014 15:40

>> No. 130823
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>A magical light gathered all of the scraps into a pile.//
This is a little confusing, given that you just spoke about a candle.

>Something caught his attention//
A lot of things have been catching his attention. This is starting to get repetitive.

I'll say here at the end of the first scene that I've never been a fan of exposition through having a character talk out loud to himself. A limited narrator could say all these things for him. It's kind of a cliche to have characters talk to them selves as a proxy for talking to the reader.

>Celestia rose from her spot and stepped over to Star Swirl, levitating the book with her.//
I'll spare you my usual lecture about misplaced modifiers, but suffice it to say it's problematic to have the "levitating" phrase come immediately after the name of a character it doesn't describe, because then it will seem to.

>“What it is?”//
Word order.

>The two princesses galloped down the corridors//
Why not teleport? I get that it's for plot convenience so you can have them talk, but in terms of making sense, that would be the most expedient way of getting there.

>Liar!//
When a ? or ! is on an italicized word, in most circumstances, italicize it as well.

>In a moment//
You sure you didn't mean something like "in an instant"? This implies some time elapsing, but that's at odds with the sudden cutoff.

>Die!//
Same deal with the italics. Just do a sweep for these.

>you can fight it! You can’t defeat it!//
Maybe I misunderstood what she's saying, but she seems to be giving mixed messages here.

>Her own magic wavered for a moment, but held him in place.//
No need for that comma. It's all one clause, and it's not particularly complex.

>eye-level//
No need for the hyphen.

>“For the time being, though—” Her head lowered to the rock floor. “—there is nothing to be done. I am exhausted.”//
An aside in a quote doesn't need to be capitalized (unless it's a word that has to be anyway), and it doesn't need a period (other end punctuation is fine).

>Cadance looked between the other princesses, frowning.//
Ambiguous as to who's frowning.

>Cadance hung her head//
The exact action Celestia just did.

>Craning her head, the sun stared back at her from the horizon, awaiting her command.//
Yipe. A genuine dangling participle. "Craning her head" describes Celestia, but she doesn't appear in the clause. This explicitly says that the sun craned her head.

>In a flash, Celestia vanished.//
Ah, so now she can teleport.

>“That’s, like, why we came here in the first place!”//
This whole conversation is off-putting. It's not until Luna's mentioned that I could even figure out what was happening, and this gets very talking heads (there's a discussion of that at the top of this thread).

>‘Tis//
Smart quotes always get leading apostrophes backward. Past one in from somewhere else, or add one after it and delete the first one.

>she writhed onto the floor//
"Onto" implies a destination, whereas "on" implies a location. One does not normally writhe from one place to another.

>We had no magic—no way to defend ourselves—so we failed to notice them.//
And so what even attracted them to the princesses? There was nothing there for them, nor was there any appreciable hope for there ever to be.

>Meet me in the Empire as soon as you can.//
I'm a little iffy as to the wisdom in this. It is likely that Cadence has one, but there's no reason to think they'd only attack the princesses. They preferred Starswirl in the past, even though the princesses were available. Inasmuch as all races are described as having magic, wouldn't anyone be a possible victim?

>“So do we get, like, a raincheck or something?”//
Is this really the best place for a joke?

>He stopped pacing//
You don't need this repetitive use of "pace."

>And, Shining Armor?//
No reason to have a comma there. They're not for dramatic pauses.

>She aim a white stream of magic at Cadance’s horn//
Verb form.

>Shining lit his own horn and said, “I’m sorry, Princess Celestia, but… I couldn’t stand to watch that anymore. You were going to kill her.”//
Here's a symptom of a problem I'm seeing off and on. Imagine how emotionally torn he must be here. But read this summary of it and see how little of his emotional state I can get from it. He seems awfully stoic about all this, and at times, all the characters do.

>He pulled her into an embrace, whispering something in her ear.//
Had you chosen a limited narrator, this would work, but an omniscient narrator would know what he said. You could phrase it that the other couldn't hear what he said, since that's true.

>‘Tis//
Backward apostrophe again.

The one thing that makes me uneasy about the ending is that Cadence gets over it immediately. There's the brief moment where she tries to use her magic, but aside from that, it's like she barely cares. It'd take her longer than that to get over losing something that's been a part of her all of her life. For that matter, canon shows that they can transfer their magic to each other. What's keeping the other princess from each donating a share of their magic to her? There are certainly explanations. Perhaps Celestia and Luna couldn't manage the sun and moon after giving any up, and it certainly wouldn't bring back Cadence's talent, since they don't have that to give her. But they could at least get her functional with the basics again, what with levitation and such. They could even draw some from unicorns to get that. I'm surprised Twilight doesn't make any suggestions along these lines, since she's experienced it. Or Celestia, for that matter, since she came up with the idea in the first place.
>> No. 130835
Didn't know how else to get in touch with you, so I guess I'll leave this here.

Just wanted to say that I am so grateful for your work. You have my thanks and admiration for dealing with novices like me with politeness and excellence. Every time I get feedback from you, it makes me feel like my manuscript is nothing but awkward attempts at fumbling around with words but in the best possible way.

I look at my writing as a way I've been trying to improve myself as a person, so your input and direction mean a big deal to me. I've got a lot to learn, and I'm glad for your help.

Take care!
>> No. 130848
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>razing her head//
I really hope you meant "raising," or this has already taken a decidedly grim turn.

>YOU//
It's preferred to indicate emphasis through italics.

>A pale yellow pegasus flapped over beside Amethyst, giving her a glare.//
You've used an awful lot of participial phrases so far. It's lending the narration a repetitive feel. There are seven in just the first screenful. Another reason to watch them is that there are three or four problems that come with misusing them, and the more you have, the more likely these problems will crop up.

>She reached to the device hanging around her neck and lifted them to her eyes.//
Number mismatch: device-> them.

>The binoculars produced clicked as Amethyst’s vision zoomed, narrowing down to look through the window of the dingy bar.//
Fairly repetitive with how the first paragraph ended.

>Ember tossed her mane back, and blinked her long eyelashes at him before reaching Amethyst.//
You don't need this comma. It's just separating a compound structure, not clauses. There's an explanation at the top of this thread in the section on comma use with conjunctions. This issue came up every so often.

>Celestia given//
Hyphenate compound modifiers.

>... your face’s right to remain silent…//
Don't put a space after a leading ellipsis. And capitalize this, since it's not picking up on a sentence she previously left hanging.

>‘Cause//
Smart quotes always get leading apostrophes backward. Add a second one, then delete the first, or else just paste one in.

>Ember’s words were cut off//
You don't need to narrate this, as it's already apparent from the punctuation. Furthermore, the action that cuts it off needs to come right after the speech. If the narrator has time to wedge anything else in, it undercuts the immediacy of the interruption.

>messed up//
Another compound descriptor that needs a hyphen.

>Amethyst mumbled, clicking the binoculars a few more times.//
You let off for a while, but it's back with a vengeance. Third sentence in a row with a participle. When you use these more unusual structures consecutively, it gives the prose a list-like feel.

>Mr. Cake gave her a confused look//
I'd rather have a description that helps me picture it in my head rather than having your narrator conclude for me how it looks. I haven't seen any bad spots of telling so far, but it might do you well to read the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread in case it does come up, or just for future reference.

>the bag was full of-//
Please use a proper dash.

>Amethyst took the binoculars back, tucking it into her trench coat as she smacked Ember on the back of her head.//
And this is the seventh straight sentence of narration that contains a participle.

>case.” Amethyst said//
Dialogue punctuation. There's a section on this up top as well. You seem to get it wrong when the dialogue would end with a period, but takes a comma to transition into an attribution with a speaking verb.

>She then stood up, dusting herself off.//
Here's one of the aforementioned problems that participles can cause. They imply concurrent action, but she wouldn't dust herself off until after she stood.

>Perfect.//
This is a limited narrator in a pretty deep perspective. Contrast it with this:
>Amethyst looked at the other mare, totally unamused.//
The "totally unamused" part is a rather external judgment that would be odd for her to make about herself. She'd focus more on her stream of thought or the physical symptoms of her emotions. It's probably worth trying to tighten this up to achieve a consistent perspective. I do appreciate that all of the limited narration so far has been confined to Amethyst's point of view.

>She lowered her binoculars crept toward the back door.//
Missing word.

>She smirked again… and waited.//
Four sentences in a row begin with "she."

>pocket- covered//
Please use a proper dash.

>cokcing//
Typo.

>she felt afraid//
You've transitioned into Ember's perspective now and actually doe it smoothly, which is no mean feat. But like I noted once before, this feels like an awfully external observation when you can give her rawer thoughts from the limited narrator.

>an almost cartoonish trail of smoke//
This is rather meta and going for a more random brand of humor than the story has been using so far. Basically, it feels out of place.

>“Doesn’t matter, got what I wanted.” she grinned.//
Given the comment I made earlier about dialogue punctuation, I assume you intended for "she grinned" to be a speech attribution, but it has no speaking verb. You can capitalize it to make it a separate sentence.

>A look of horror//
Pretty telly and somewhat repetitive with the earlier "looking a bit nervous."

>Oh don’t play coy with me Mr. Cake//
Missing a comma for direct address.

>‘suspicious!’ “//
Extraneous space has broken the smart quotes and made them backward.

>You’ve got it all wrong Ms. Breeze!//
Direct address again.

>Wow Ammy,//
And in the middle of a sentence, direct address takes commas on both sides.

>‘The Art of War,’//
Book titles are underlined or (preferably) italicized. You don't need the comma before this, either.

>now drooling//
Hyphenate the compound modifier.

>Alright Ember//
Direct address again.

>The pegasus//
You're referring to her as such a lot lately. Don't overdo it.

>Amethyst spoke up//
You're using this a lot lately, too. It's not really a valid speaking verb, as it's intransitive, though I'm only guessing that you intended to use it as one, given the punctuation.

>Suddenly, the door to the interrogation room burst open as Mrs. Cake galloped in, embracing Mr. Cake in a massive hug.//
Here's another spot where participles muddle the chronology. "As" clauses also imply simultaneous action, so the door bursting open, Mrs. Cake galloping in, and her embrace all happen at the same instant instead of in sequence.

>I’m sorry for being so secretive honey bun!//
Direct address and inconsistent with your earlier use of "honeybun" as a single word.

>Ember looked like she was about to vomit as she looked at the two slobbery ponies across the room. She stayed silent for a moment, but she mustered up the strength to ask something.//
Look at the inconsistent perspectives here. At first, it's external. She would look like she was about to vomit to someone else, not herself. But then only she would know she'd "mustered up the strength to ask," so that part's in her head.

>cloud clearing//
Hyphenate the compound modifier.

>that wasn’t the complete truth, Amethyst had done the calculations last night//
This comma is a splice.

>morning Ammy//
Direct address again.

>which usually meant Amethyst was neck deep in filing paperwork//
Why have you gone to Ember's perspective here? The scene didn't start that way, since she wasn't even present.

>Actually…” Ember’s gaze wandered around the office, noticing papers strewn everywhere, which usually meant Amethyst was neck deep in filing paperwork. “...did//
It looks like you're trying to do a narrative aside in a quote. Here's how to do it:
>Actually—” Ember’s gaze wandered around the office, noticing papers strewn everywhere, which usually meant Amethyst was neck deep in filing paperwork “—did//
Or you can put the dashes outside the quotes if the speaker doesn't actually stop. It's odd to personify her gaze here, though, having it and not her notice the papers.

A word here about your ellipsis usage. In some places, it's a single character, and in others, it's three separate dots. Do a search and replace to make them consistent. It doesn't matter which one you use. But except for leading ellipses, at least put a space after them. The three common formats are... this, or ... this, or . . . this.

>Yeah Ammy?//
Direct address.

>What I NEED, is money.//
Commas aren't for dramatic pauses. You do that a lot in this paragraph.

>she was up in Ember’s face now, very close to pressing their faces together//
This is not a dialogue attribution. You an't just tack on any action with a comma and call it a speech tag. It has to use a speaking verb.

>her mane and horn continuing to spark with electricity//
At least you acknowledge the repetition, but using the same mundane phrasing is just boring.

>Ember looked like she might cry//
At least you'd stayed with Ember's perspective once you went there, but this isn't a judgment she'd make about herself, so i can't tell whose opinion this is. Amethyst's? The client's?

>Then, quick as a flash Amethyst shot over to her desk, bearing a smile.//
Another danger of participles: they like to modify the nearest prior noun or pronoun, unless they start a clause, in which case they like to modify its subject. By proximity, it sounds like the desk is bearing a smile. We can certainly apply a bit of logic to sort things out, but there's actually a possible explanation for how the desk could, so it's a bit ambiguous. The larger point is that if you don't keep this in mind, you will eventually use one in an ambiguous or misleading way.

>waving it off with a hoof//
What does "it" refer to here?

>flowershop//
Two words.

>walked by before, but haven’t had a chance to stop by//
Fairly repetitive phrasings using "by."

>handed it to Ember//
With her... hand?

>how is that even a crime?//
Oh, I dunno. Trespassing? Criminal mischief? Breaking and entering?

>an alternate revenue streams//
Number mismatch.

>That’s Fancy for, ‘We’re broke,’ right?//
You don't need that first comma. It isn't a quote.

>spoke//
You like to use this a lot, but it makes for a very clunky attribution verb.

>Amethyst’s voice trailed off//
Like my earlier point about cutoffs, you don't need to narrate trailing off when it's already apparent from the punctuation.

>despite their upside down position//
Upside-down.

>complementing//
While this has a possible valid meaning (whereby she suggests abetting the criminal), I believe you meant "complimenting."

>She winked, but the caught Amethyst’s eye.//
Some wording got jumbled there.

>It glows a different color depending on the cutie mark of the pony that made the print!//
How would this be very useful? Hooves are essentially toenails. They don't have distinctive patterns, unless you count possible nicks and scratches, but those could be altered at will. And many cutie marks are the same color. It wouldn't be anywhere close to a definitive match.

>Amethysts shook her head.//
Typo.

>right-side up//
Inconsistent with your earlier spelling of "rightside-up."

>a pegasi//
Number mismatch.

>Amethyst screamed pounding her head against a wall.//
Participles are normally set off with a comma.

>As if to emphasize this//
You do this (heh) a few times. It's ungainly to use demonstratives (this, that, these, those) by themselves in narration, as they have vague antecedents that are often large self-referential chunks of the narration itself. Better to rephrase or stick an appropriate noun after it to make it a modifier.

This is a fun story so far. These are likable characters who have an interesting dynamic between them, honestly, just square away these technical problems, and I'll send it up for posting. For some, I pointed out every instance I saw, but for others (namely, dialogue punctuation, participle overuse, comma usage with conjunctions, perspective, and telly language), I left it to you to root it out after I listed examples.
>> No. 130850
>>130848

Thank you very much for such a detailed analysis. We'll get all these fixed and resubmit it once the issues you have mentioned are addressed!
>> No. 130858
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>There was forgoing etiquette and the was forgoing self-respect.//
Typo

>-that-//
Hyphens aren't for emphasis.

>Slamming her door shut behind her, it only took a moment to realize exactly why the sound was so bad.//
Misplaced modifier. It doesn't sound like she's the one doing the slamming. Leading participles modify the subject, so you're describing "it" here.

>a grey pegasus blurted out as she landed in front of Octavia, scrambling to collect the scattered parcels.//
Here, I'll say that I notice you use a whole lot of participles. Besides creating a repetitive structure, they have their own attendant problems. You have a lot that are misplaced modifiers. I haven't said anything until now because it's clear what you mean in most of them, but this one's truly ambiguous. Who's "scrambling"? By the rules of grammar, Octavia is, but I bet you meant Derpy. If there was an inanimate object there in the sentence where Octavia is, then I could apply a bit of logic and sort it out, but if you don't keep modifier placement in mind, you will slip into ambiguous and misleading phrasings at times.

>With that decision made, and her hind legs rested, she resumed playing.//
She was going to take a break, then found the rock and thought about it a bit. That took long enough that she's rested now?

>Meanwhile, much further down the catwalk//
You'd kept the story in a very subjective narration so far, so why break it here? And only for a single paragraph? What does it achieve to have the reader see this now? Better to find out about it the same way a character does later on, since you'll have to do that eventually. There's not even any tension built here, as we have no reason to know or care what's in the box or who Sunset Shimmer is. This could go in the next scene, except that it's easy enough to deduce. I'd recommend cutting it altogether.

So if Vinyl is so well-known, why does she live in an apartment no better than Octavia, who lives on donations day to day? And why would Octavia take her instrument there? She was expecting something pretty seedy, and really, what she gets isn't any better from the perspective of keeping her cello from getting damaged. She's not exactly on a schedule, either, so why not swing by her apartment to drop it off? It's nearby.

>Octavia's embarrassment was plain on her face.//
Don't I get to see it, too? This is another thing I saw intermittently. It's more effective to get me to deduce a character's emotion than to tell me bluntly.

>“‘scuse me, Octavia.//
Capitalization.

>pegasi guards//
Noun adjuncts are singular.

>full blown//
You have a few spots where you don't hyphenate a compound modifier.

>She saw Vinyl flip through the air as the magical blast slammed into her, cringing as the unicorn landed with all the grace of a rag doll.//
Another example of an ambiguous participle.

>Octavia grit her teeth.//
gritted

Indicate direct thoughts with quotes and an appropriate tag or italics.

Hyphens constantly used where dashes are needed, and even then, you use them in some places where commas would be more appropriate.

Spell out numbers.

You also use a ton of "to be" verbs. They are inherently boring. It's much more interesting to read about what happens. Of the easier forms to search on, I counted 263. That's a little more than one every other sentence on average. That's how often something isn't happening in this story. You need to be choosing more active verbs.

We're kind of thrown into this world without much of a picture of how things got this way. The caste system going on here is like that before Hearth's Warming, but you still reference the princesses, so did that never happen, or has society lapsed back into it somehow? And even in that case, the earth ponies' talent was in producing the food, while you have that happening on the upper tiers where the unicorns live, then what function do they serve in society?

It's possible you address these things in later chapters, and it's actually a good thing to dole out exposition a little at a time, but you can only put it off so long before I just get confused about why things are the way they are.

Last edited at Thu, Jul 10th, 2014 21:26

>> No. 130859
>>130858

Heya. First and foremost, thanks for taking the time to read and comment. It is definitely appreciated!

One immediate question, if you don't mind.

>Indicate direct thoughts with quotes and an appropriate tag or italics.
Is this common? I have never read a published work where direct thoughts have been offset by quotes. I actually grabbed a couple books off my shelf to check and found it was simply italicized and offset by commas.

Here's to the next revision!

Last edited at Wed, Jul 9th, 2014 23:40

>> No. 130860
>>130859
It's most common to have thoughts in italics, but you do occasionally see them in quotes, as long as the attribution clearly identifies it as a thought, and even once in a while, differentiating double quotes for spoken dialogue and single quotes for thought.

And one more thing I meant to say about this excerpt:
>She saw Vinyl flip through the air as the magical blast slammed into her, cringing as the unicorn landed with all the grace of a rag doll.//
It's clunky and repetitive to have two "as" clauses in the same sentence, but this illustrates another danger of participles: they (and the "as" clauses, for that matter) imply simultaneous actions, so make sure that's actually what you intend. Here, the flipping through the air happens at the same time as the blast hits her (more a cause and effect, but a bit of a gray area), but then Octavia also cringes and sees Vinyl land at the same time. More realistically, the bolt would hit Vinyl, then she'd flip through the air (though again, it wouldn't be too outlandish to have these at the same time), then Octavia grimaces at the same time she sees Vinyl hit the ground.

Last edited at Thu, Jul 10th, 2014 21:34

>> No. 130865
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>least known//
As a compound modifier, it needs a hyphen.

>High winds caused the arid air to swirl around them, filled with a bitter dust that made one of the smaller of the three mares cough//
Two problems here. First, participles can often be misplaced modifiers. Unless they begin a clause, they like to modify the nearest prior object, so "filled..." would describe "them." In many cases, I could apply a bit of logic and sort things out, but this one's a little ambiguous, since you could have meant it in a figurative sense. Second, "one of the smaller of the three" is empty filler. The phrase implies more than one "smaller" mares, but they have to be compared to another, so this necessarily means one mare is large, and two are small. So you're going through this vague language just to avoid picking between two. If there were a whole crowd, fine, but this is needless obfuscation. Is it the smallest one or the middle one? Just say so.

>sorely-needed//
Conversely, when a compound modifier consists of two words with the first as an -ly adverb, you don't need a hyphen.

>From far away in the hills, the five could see flashes of lightning and hear the booms of thunder//
This doesn't say the thunder and lightning were far away in the hills; it says the ponies were. It's an issue of modifier placement again.

>One of the mares gestured the others to step back, and directed a carefully aimed jet of magic towards the lock//
Missing a "for" there. "Gesture" isn't a transitive verb. See the section at the top of this thread on comma use with conjunctions. You don't need one here, since it's all one clause, and the compound structure isn't lengthy or complex. This is a recurring issue.

>sorrowfully//
Now's not really the time to be telly, since we're being introduced to the characters and getting familiar with them. There's a section up top about show versus tell, too.

>I will change it until morning,” and she cast another protective spell upon the lock.//
You can't just tack any given action to speech with a comma. It has to be a speaking action to do that.

>They hastened up one of the twisting back stairwells, clinging closely to the stone walls//
See, here's another ambiguous participle. Grammatically speaking, the stairwells are clinging to the walls, and to be fair, they actually are. It'd be a valid statement, but i bet you meant it to describe the ponies.

>Then the mare who had not yet spoken rapped gently at the stairwell door.
>
>“May we speak to—”//

Certain words, like "the" and "a," you can get away with repeating. But the use of "spoken/speak" so close here feels repetitive.

>his mane swept back by a simple diadem and clad in a soft red robe//
The subject of this absolute phrase is his mane, not him. His mane isn't clad in a soft red robe.

>~~~//
Why do you have an [hr] character and another one to mark the scene break?

>your Majesty//
The whole phrase is an honorific, so both words would be capitalized.

>carefully-placed//
Same deal as before. No hyphen here.

>“There was a time,” he said, “when I would have said//
Watch the repetition of "said" there. Your dialogue attributions are also very repetitive in structure.

>Your two,” he turned to Flim and Flam, “are petty shysters//
Again, you can't just tack a non-speaking action onto a quote with a comma. You appear to be trying to put a narrative aside in there. Here's how you do one:
Your two—” he turned to Flim and Flam “—are petty shysters
if he stops speaking for the action, or
Your two”—he turned to Flim and Flam—“are petty shysters
if he doesn't. Also be aware that while it has gained common usage, "shyster" is actually a pretty racist term.

>such greed and cruelty such//
More repetition.

>As for you; you are true friends to me//
There's no independent clause before the semicolon.

>‘S’comin’//
For one thing, smart quotes tend to get leading apostrophes backward, as it has here. You have a number of instances of this. But there's no reason to jam the two words together with another apostrophe. There aren't actually any letters missing, which is what the apostrophe would signify. ‘S comin’

These are the few main things that stood out to me: The dialogue is extremely formal to the point of being melodramatic. It feels more like they're reading a script than engaging in real conversation. Everything's so stiff. Possibly with that as a symptom, the other point is that it's an awfully factual story about what should be a very emotional time. I'm getting very little of how the characters feel from their actions or appearance—you're largely using dialogue alone to carry the emotion. It can be more difficult to do so with an omniscient narrator, but there are places where you take a shallow dip into a character's perspective, and that's another way of bringing those feelings out.

As a completed story, there isn't much resolution here, and the main conflict occurs entirely off screen, It may actually have, if Sombra's decision came out of the blue for the rest of them, but there's not even any build-up to it or reaction to the immediate aftermath. We just get told that Sombra's in a form of self-imposed exile, Celestia's been made good, everypony's happy, and for some reason, these Elements have taken on some of their counterparts' habits. It's unclear what sort of significance that's supposed to have.

Last edited at Tue, Jul 15th, 2014 18:30

>> No. 130866
>>130865
Dear Pre-reader 63.546:

Thank you so much for your feedback! I will take some time to look at your suggestions. Some of your concerns were things that worried me, too. The small things such as misplaced modifiers and the like can easily be dealt with. The tone and pacing might not be, and I'm on the fence about whether or not to try, or to chalk it up as a learning experience, quit trying to be serious, and go back to slice of life/fluff.

I'm stuck with the comic book canon, which is that Sombra's decision did in fact come out of the blue, and wasn't something any of them were expecting. Some of the problem might be that it is comic book canon, not show canon, and needs some sort of explanation or bridge to make it sensible.

I will change "shyster" as soon as I can think of a better term. "Shyster," by the way, is one of those words like "niggardly," which is not racist and whose etymology has nothing to do with racism ("shyster" fr. German "schiesser," "shitter," not "Shylock"), but has acquired a false racist overtone to some people, I suppose, although given my background, I'm surprised that I had never heard of this. In any case, I don't want to offend or shock readers, so out it goes.

I see exactly what you mean about the stiffness and melodramatic tone, and again, I'm not sure if it's fixable. I'm hoping that the fact that you gave it a review means that it might be, although I may not have the writing chops to do it. I think I will stick it in the "Tear My Good Story To Shreds" section of Rage Reviews, and see what one of the reviewers there has to say.

I'm not at all sure it's fixable, but I appreciate the feedback, since I know you really don't have to do this. Thank you!
>> No. 130870
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>manilla//
manila

>Wonderbolt-related//
Pretty repetitive with the recently-used "academia-related."

>When I applied for school I had to make my own!//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>meticulously-organized//
You don't need a hyphen for two-word phrases starting in an -ly adverb.

>she looked awesome//
>The prospect of wearing an official Wonderbolt suit excited her.//
These are incredibly bland for the emotion she should be showing. The second one's rather telly as well, which is a particularly bad idea early in the story, where you're trying to draw me into your characterizations.

>wellbeing//
well-being

>“Rainbow Dash,” Twilight slapped the papers down on the table.//
You can't just tack and given action onto speech with a comma. It has to be a speaking action, punctuated as a narrative aside, or made into a separate sentence.

>Feather Flu//
You're inconsistent at capitalizing this. Either way is fine, but pick one.

>Twilight shook her head in disbelief.//
Have a look at the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread. In short, the "in disbelief" is entirely superfluous here.

>We’ll take care of this, and then head over to Carousel Boutique to get you fitted for your flight suit.//
In contrast to my third comment, here's a spot where you don't need comma, because it's just a compound structure (and not a lengthy or complex one), not multiple clauses. This is an intermittent issue. I have a section on comma use with conjunctions up top as well.

>“Fine,” Rainbow Dash wrenched her tail out of Twilight’s grip, and stomped past her out the door.//
Another case where you have a non-speaking action masquerading as a speech attribution. At this point, I'll also say that your dialogue structuring is very repetitive. Paragraph after paragraph goes: "Quote." Brief action or dialogue tag. "More speech."

>I- I//
No space after a hyphen when indicating a stutter.

>shouldn’t even phase you//
Phase/faze confusion.

>what?!//
You'll normally see ! or ? italicized when on an italicized word.

>she bit her lip and turned to Twilight.//
I'd say "capitalization error," but I bet this is another one of those non-speaking actions you're trying to use as an attribution.

>paper work//
paperwork

>3//
Write out numbers, unless they're exceedingly long.

>“No, we wouldn’t,” Rainbow Dash mumbled.//
I'm noticing the frequency of "mumble" and "mutter" as a speaking verb. You don't want your choices of them calling attention to themselves. You use "mumble" seven times, which is quite a lot to repeat an unusual speaking verb for this word count. There's a rationale behind this in the section on saidisms.

>how much would you say getting a feather flu shot hurts.//
It's a question, right?

>laid down//
Lay/lie confusion. There's one in Redheart's quote, too, but that could be her misspeaking.

>held up her hoof, which held//
Watch the repetition.

>Rainbow Dash descended sheepishly to the floor.//
I'm only pointing out a couple of these, but this is another bad spot for telling. What does this even look like?

>he stopped as he noted that Rainbow Dash was not a filly.//
Capitalization.

>as he dumped the needle into the waste box//
That's... dangerous. They don't use a sharps container?

>bandaid//
Inconsistent spelling.

>obviously not buying it//
Again, what does this look like? Don't have the narrator draw the conclusion for me. That's not nearly as interesting.

>the boutique//
In the exact same phrasing, you capitalized it earlier. Pick one.

The other issue I'd bring up is one of perspective. You mostly use a limited narrator, who can dip into a character's point of view and speak for her. However, your perspective jumps all over the place. I won't repeat the rationale behind avoiding it; I'll just refer you to the section on head hopping at the top of this thread. But while you're writing, you need to be mindful of what perspective you're using. Do you phrase something in a conversational tone? Do you have the narrator say something that only one character could know? Do you have the narrator expressing a particular character's opinion or judgment? (As a side note, you can still get at some of these things from another perspective. Saying Dash forced her best smile is from her perspective, because only she knows it's forced. But phrasing it as Twilight noticing that her eyes didn't match her grin's sentiment couches it as Twilight's interpretation of Dash's mood.) You switched back and forth between Dash's and Twilight's viewpoints frequently, and you spent a grand total of two sentences in Redheart's head.

Lastly, "to be" verbs. They are inherently boring. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what is. You need to be choosing more active verbs. I can't catch every instance, because there are a few ambiguous contractions that'd have to be counted manually, but for the easier forms to search with a ctrl-f, I counted 170. That's a little more often than one every other sentence, on average. That's how often something doesn't happen in your story. Just do a search on "was" and watch the screen light up.

That's it for the mechanical and style issues. As to plot, it's a fun story, and I'd tend to let it slide on the strength of that, but it doesn't really come to a conclusion. It's more an extended joke than anything else, and one that's been done before. It would really help your case if you did one simple thing: have Rainbow Dash come to some resolution or realization as a result of her experience. It doesn't have to be some profound thing, and it could even be her rethinking her stance on shots and reaffirming that she hasn't gotten over her fear at all. Something. It gives a sense that it matters what happened in your story, that someone's changed or grown because of it. Otherwise, it's like a filler episode, where you could remove it without affecting what comes after.
>> No. 130873
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>several week’s worth//
weeks’

>Look Trixie, forget the mosquitos.//
When in the middle of a sentence, direct address takes commas on both sides.

>Minos is throwing it's whole weight into this thing//
Its/it's confusion.

>Gilda continued//
This is the only piece of narration for nine paragraphs. Just two words. Let me see what they're doing as they talk, or they might as well be statues. It's also a more immersive read when you don't rely solely on the dialogue to carry the emotion.

>Griffon Kingdoms//
Not sure whether you meant there to be more than one Griffon Kingdom od if you're just missing an apostrophe.

>Currently, they were letting deer out. The deer walked out of the building//
This is pretty repetitive. At this point, I'll also say that the focus is off-putting here. The scene opens with a one-sentence explanation of how Gilda and Trixie got there, then promptly drops them to go into a very dry explanation of what's happening politically in the country, though it's also very sparing on the context for why things are this way. I can't tell at all whether this is normal (at least under the circumstances) or if nobody could have anticipated what was going on here.

>Gilda called over one of the police officers, and drew her claw over a third of the table. “Keep that stuff, let him keep the rest.” The doe nodded, and cleared away the confiscated goods.//
In the first and last sentences here, you don't need the commas. They aren't separating clauses, just fairly simple compound structures.

>Gilda turned to Trixie, shaking her head.//
Ambiguous modifier. Who's shaking her head? By grammatical conventions, Trixie is, but you probably meant Gilda.

I'm also noticing a lot of repetition. What's stuck in my head recently is the two close uses of "young coconut" and the number of times I saw "looters."

>It’s been cloudy all week and this is still the hottest I’ve ever been.//
Conversely, there are two clauses here (two subjects, each with their own verb: it -> has been, this -> is), so you need a comma. Keep an eye out for these.

>But, I think we can come to a compromise.//
Commas aren't for dramatic pauses. There's no grammatical reason to have one here.

>How does that sound.//
It's a question, isn't it?

>“I don’t know why we didn’t try more diplomacy,” she said, “It’s basically just carrot and stick.”//
Dialogue punctuation/capitalization.

>This caught the sergeants attention.//
Missing apostrophe.

There are four main things here.

First, the language is too strong in places. Keep in mind that we're trying to reach a pretty broad audience, and the gratuitous swearing and off-color phrasings go too far.

Second, the narration is rather dry through much of the story. It lists fact after fact after fact without attaching much emotional context to what's happening. That makes it end up feeling rather like reading a list at times.

There are a few spots where you do fine delving into a character's perspective to give their reactions to something, but it jumps around between character enough to feel flighty. It makes the writing feel jerky when it changes perspective too often or abruptly, and for what's here, it may not be necessary to work from any more than a single perspective.

The ending was pretty underwhelming. Part of it is again the lack of an emotional reaction from the characters, but it comes completely out of the blue as well. No mention was made of how they knew anything would be there. Some far-off land, they hear about a war there, and they go profiteering, but they just happened to have this intel? It feels awfully convenient, as they never did anything to acquire the info, so there was no implication they had to do anything to get it. For that matter, it makes the pacing feel off as well. You spent quite a while on the minutiae of deer coming and going, but only 8 sentences on their prize.
>> No. 130876
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>signifying that she had heard him//
This rather lacks subtlety. It would have been evident from the way she acted anyway, but it also states as a certainty what Spike couldn't know yet. It's also unnecessarily indirect, as it's the fact that she stopped that's important, not that anything is signified.

>She simply stood there, waiting for him to do something, anything. He tried to move//
I can already see there are likely to be perspective problems. These two sentences abruptly flip from her head to his (the "something, anything" is uniquely her thought process, and she wouldn't know that he tried to move). You don't want the perspective to wander around so much, and definitely not within a paragraph. There's a longer rationale for this in the section about head hopping at the top of this thread.

>He tried to open his mouth//
This is the second sentence in a row to start with this phrasing. That's not necessarily a problem, but two leaves it ambiguous as to whether you're doing something thematic or just had an oversight. If you want repetition for effect, you have to call attention to it somehow, like have the narrator notice it's repeated or use it at least three times. You do have a third item in the list, so if you phrased it the same, then it'd be apparent you did it deliberately.

>still carrying her assortment of flowers//
Odd to mention that, since there's nothing that would suggest she'd do otherwise.

>She continued down the hallway//
This is the exact same action she just took two short paragraphs ago.

>She smiled a little.//
She just did...

>She plodded over to him.//
Not sure that's the best word choice. "Plod" implies a heaviness through fatigue or reluctance. That's not consistent with the way she's been acting.

>Then he noticed the thorns. They were small, but sharp. He hadn’t noticed them at first//
Watch the repetition of "notice."

>He skidded to a halt//
It was described as being only a few doors down and a "trek." Neither would indicate speed, so how did he get going fast enough in that short a distance to necessitate skidding to a halt?

>Twilight was the first to notice his presence.//
Again with "notice." Keep an eye out for words that you're repeating. Sometimes it takes putting the story down for a couple of weeks before looking at it again. Then these kinds of things stand out to you more.

>We were worried sick about you, Spike.//
This wasn't evident from their reaction. Only Twilight said anything, and she was more confrontational than anything.

>Spike kicked at the ground with his right foot, sending some dust flying into the air.//
In a hospital? In the middle of the room? It's more "floor" than "ground," and why would it be so dusty?

>Why is everypony doting on her?//
This sounds a little too old for Spike.

>Reaching down underneath the stand, she pulled up an average-sized glass vase.//
Note that participles imply simultaneous action, but these would happen in sequence.

>The mare in question tossed and turned in her sleep, letting out a little grunt of discomfort when she rolled onto her injured wing. She mumbled something unintelligible before rolling restlessly back onto her other side, desperately searching for sleep’s gentle caress.//
Watch the structural repetition. Both sentences go "main clause, participle." Participles are easy to overuse because they stand out. In fact, that last participle is in Dash's perspective, which is odd because she's not really interacting with anyone or anything, besides the fact that it's another abrupt point-of-view shift.

>concern etching her features//
That's rather blunt. Let me see it if you want it to mean something to me.

>bed-ridden//
bedridden

>Spike stood there like a statue, watching everything unfold before him with alarming stillness.//
The perpective here is unidentifiable. Alarming to whom? Not himself, as he doesn't react to it, and nobody else is paying attention to him.

>She levitated her saddlebags over, pulling out a familiar bouquet of daffodils.//
Another spot where your use of a participle implies concurrent action where there wouldn't be.

>well being//
well-being

>Pinkie darted over to the stereo, pushing the power button with her nose.//
More synchronization issues. You're going to have to scan for these yourself.

>He watered the roses every night, and made sure that they got plenty of sunlight.//
There aren't separate clauses here, so you don't need the comma.

>The Carousel Boutique
The name is just Carousel Boutique.

>lay down next to him//
>laying position//
Lay/lie confusion.

>His eyes slid shut and he folded his arms behind his head.//
Here, there are two clauses, so you need a comma.

>beady//
He's never described them this way until now, but all the other words are the same? Is this a new impression? If not, why hasn't he mentioned it before? The connotations of this word really change the tone of the description.

>"…"//
This passes for dialogue in video games, but not in better fiction. Besides, it tells me nothing about what they're doing in the silence.

>Without warning, Spike sighed.//
Do people normally presage their sighs?

>all of the sudden//
all of a sudden

>Twilight watched him go, a look somewhere between anger and sadness plastered on her face.//
Your perspective's been with Spike. How does he even see this? It's also very telly at a pretty crucial moment.

>He ran in front of her and put a hand out, signifying her to stop.//
The "signifying" thing is odd again, especially since he should know she can't see it.

>He opened his mouth to ask her to say something more, but his mouth snapped shut again immediately after he opened it.
>
>“I… I’ve got to go,” Spike stammered before darting down the hallway.//
This is seemingly contradictory.

>She laid down//
Lay/lie confusion.

>and placed down onto his lap//
Missing word.

>He immediately broke into a sprint//
He just sprinted down the stairs.

>showing that she had heard him approach//
You do a lot of this blunt interpretation of actions. Give the reader some credit. If you write the description well, the motivation behind it will be apparent.

>Oh my god.//
He uses "goddess" elsewhere.

>content to just bask in the glorious silence of friendship//
Are they really friends? They've barely interacted, and about only one or two topics at that.

>bleach-white lily//
That's pretty grim. Those are traditionally used at funerals.

>T-thank//
This is a common mistake. What sound would he actually repeat? Surely not just the "T."

>Spike turned to Roseluck and smiled, and she smiled right back at him.//
That's a lot of smiling going on, especially considering there was another just two sentences back. And another two sentences later. You use this word 39 times in your story. That's a lot for this word count and speaks to a lack of descriptive phrasing.

>She laid sprawled out//
And lay/lie confusion is becoming a systematic problem.

>Suddenly, he wasn’t quite so happy as before.//
Here's a spot where telling works, because the emotion comes over him suddenly, and he's less self-aware about it.

>Celestia-damned//
Sometimes, directly substituting real-world expressions doesn't quite work. This implies she actually has the power to do that, which is a pretty grim idea. And as much as Twilight idolizes Celestia, I doubt she'd disrespect her name like this.

>T-thank//
Same deal with the stutter. This would be pronounced "Tuh-thank."

>‘Sides//
Smart quotes always get leading apostrophes backward. Either paste one in or add a second and delete the first.

>maybe even something more//
I'll comment more on this in the wrap up, but there's nothing in the story to convince me of this.

>“—and//
This would be fine if it were picking up from an earlier sentence that we got to see, but as it's the first part of this thought presented, capitalize it.

>She slammed a hoof down on the countertop, trying to stop laughing; it was to no avail.//
This is also coming out of nowhere. She's never acting any way except pretty emo, so it's odd to see the sudden change. How she gets to be like this around him is a rather important part of their relationship.

>One hundred twenty-three days. Two thousand, nine hundred fifty-two hours. One hundred seventy-seven thousand, one hundred twenty minutes. Ten million, six hundred twenty-seven thousand, two hundred seconds.//
This whole litany is a rather cliched thing to do.

>The kiss was clumsy and awkward at first//
I haven't seen anything in the story to indicate when it takes place, meaning there's also nothing to make me assume it doesn't take place during the show. As such, there's an age problem. How old is Spike? He's known to be several years younger than Twilight, and the girls are all acting like heir show ages. For underage characters, we won't post anything beyond a schoolyard crush.

>The waiter shot him a condescending look//
Not if he wants a tip, he doesn't...

>if such a thing was even possible//
For hypothetical statements, use subjunctive mood: if such a thing were even possible

>he would die of embarrassment//
Another case where the repetition appears to be a mistake unless you do something to call attention to it, like add emphasis on the "he."

>With a sad smile, Daisy stood up. “If… if you ever want to talk, come and get me, okay?”//
Why does she leave? It's awkward. She just... does. She knows he's upset, I have to think they're well-acquainted by now, and he hasn't asked her to go. This smacks more of "she's leaving because I can't figure out what to have her do."

Now to the overall issues. I'll start with the mundane ones. There were lots of participles, especially in the early going. Besides being repetitive, they caused a number of chronology problems. The perspective jumped around quite a bit as well. For every sentence, you have to keep in mind which character would know the information and whether it's presented as they would perceive it. In addition to the romance angle, it needs to be clear how old Spike is, because much of the narration uses word choices and phrasings that aren't believable for his canon age.

Next is a special kind of repetition, and one that many writers do. You have a lot of "to be" verbs. They're inherently boring. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. You should be choosing more active verbs. Of the forms that are easy to search for, I counted 240. That's almost one every other sentence. That's how often something isn't happening.

Lastly, and most importantly, the treatment of the romance is too shallow to foster much investment in their relationship. There's the default you get for presenting any generic scenario, but there's not a lot of meat to this. First, there's never much presented to show why they work as a couple. Spike talks to her about why she gives out flowers, and from barely more than that, decides that she's a friend and a potential lover. I basically have to take your word for that, as I don't get to see them warm up to each other. They're just together, and the reader has to generate the reasons to care, which some of them will. Then we get to the real romance. We see them hanging out on their same hill, talking the same as they have been all along. There's nothing to show why they have any chemistry, which is where the work in a romance story needs to go. I have to see them behaving like a real couple, but they just rehash the same old material. At least there's the double date, but they're supposed to have been dating for quite some time by then, yet they still behave like they're timid around each other, and there's really no interaction between them. And why does Roseluck keep her illness secret? I know the reason she gives in the story, but that's a completely selfish thing for her to do. First, she alludes to it, which is a horrible tease, then she never brings it up again. Wouldn't she want him to know what he was getting into? Wouldn't she want him to get the most out of their time together? It just seems engineered to generate the most emotional impact possible without doing the work to justify it and make it feel authentic.
>> No. 130878
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>I’m afraid Tirek just did too much damage—even by my standards.
>The fire had long since gone out, but piles of soot and ash stood in its place—marking the scene like tombstones.//
In both of these, I don't see what the dash gives you over a comma.

>‘bout//
Smart quotes get leading apostrophes backward, as they have here. Paste one in from somewhere else.

>do you really want a repeat of that awful event?//
But it wouldn't repeat. Spike knows how to cancel the spell now.

>Y-You//
Unless it's a word that has to be capitalized anyway, only do so with the first part of a stutter.

>something!//
You'll normally see ! or ? italicized when on an italicized word.

>Fluttershy said, resting a hoof around Spike.//
This structure is getting repetitive by now, where you tack a participle onto your speech tag.

>She frowned at the library, “but I guess maybe we should wait till later.//
You can't just tack any action onto a quote with a comma. It has to be a speaking action, and in any case, you need to capitalize the quote, since it's not continuing one from earlier in the sentence.

>rainbow-flavoured//
But when she tasted rainbows at the weather factory, they were really spicy. Doesn't sound like a good flavor for a cupcake.

>we could’ve lost so much more today than just the library. And there are so many other things worth celebrating today//
Watch the close repetition of words, like "today" here.

>She approached him and place one hoof gently on his shoulder.//
Typo.

>Spike stood, letting Twilight’s hoof thump to the ground.//
It was Fluttershy's hoof on him.

>Without looking at her, he said, “You can go ahead. I’m gonna look//
Watch the repetition of "look" here.

>Her eyes turned harsh for a short second—short enough that it could’ve been a trick of the light.//
Your narration is somewhat mixed, feeling omniscient at times and taking on Spike's perspective at others. But those are the only two—I haven't seen anyone else's point of view. But here, the perspective is unidentifiable. Is is a perspective, since it's making a judgment, bu Spike couldn't see this, as Rarity would be turned away from him, so whose perspective is it? And what do you gain by introducing a new perspective, only to spend a single sentence there?

>But there’s no harm in it, and it might help Spike cope a little.//
I get that she's trying to be understanding, but I don't know why she's going about it this way. There's no hurry for her to go look through the castle, the three friends going with her are doing it more out of curiosity than some need, and they're tired anyway. Twilight can tell that Spike needs some closure, but she's just going to leave him behind? What she says right after this also makes her sound rather glib about the whole thing. Moving on is fine, if that's her decision, but as self-aware as she is about it, would she really abandon Spike like this?

>Being so cold with you earlier.//
And Twilight just takes this from him, even going so far as to accept his apology? She's the one being cold and forcing him to move on before he's ready. I'm finding her behavior kind of disturbing.

And then her reaction to the blanket. She's being horribly insensitive here. It just doesn't feel like her. She's supposed to be an expert in friendship, and she's doing a very poor job here.

>His finger made a divot in the fabric//
A divot isn't the impression; it's the material removed that resulted in said impression. So you're saying he carved out a piece of the fabric.

>‘the next room over?’//
This is your choice, but you don't have to put the ? inside the quotes, since it's not part of what Twilight had said.

>Won’t that be great, Spike? A space all to yourself!//
This has gone beyond her pushing him into something new. This smacks of her not really knowing him in the first place, which is pretty tough to believe. As much time as they've spent together, she must know that he enjoys sleeping near her. He's been in situations where he didn't have to, yet he always chose to.

>a bird perch stood in the far corner//
So Owloysius gets to stay with her, but Spike doesn't?

>Seven throne//
Typo.

>He glanced back at the door that led back to his bedroom.//
Watch the repetition of "back."

>What? Sure, I miss that setup, but that new duvet is really awesome.//
I really can't tell whether he's being facetious here. There's no evidence that he isn't saying this in earnest, but he never had that reaction when he was actually using the bed.

Aside from the detailed things, the only overall problem here is that Twilight constantly comes across as cold and cruel to Spike, and yet he's the one who apologizes to her. And when she finally apologizes in return, it's not really for the way she treated him, more about her public image and how she felt about the old library. She comes across as hopelessly oblivious to his feelings, and given what she's the princess of and how well she should know him, it left me with an uneasy feeling the whole time that Twilight wouldn't act like this.
>> No. 130881
>>129713
Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but if you get this note, could you contact me via my fimfic profile and/or email?

I have an EQD related question for you. Thanks for your time!

-GMP
>> No. 130883
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>WHAM!
>
>Crash!
>
>Bam!//
It's preferred not to put sound effects in narration. Just describe them.

>E-emergency Rainbow Dash!//
Missing a comma for direct address.

>Dash exclaimed as she rushed to her window.//
Not counting those sound effects, you already have three "as" clauses in your first three paragraphs. It's making your writing sound very repetitive.

>Derpy followed after Rainbow as they zoomed towards the flames. As they approached the edge of the blaze//
And more of the same.

I'm also noticing a lot of unusual speaking verbs, to the point that they're drawing my attention away from the speech itself. You don't want the reader becoming that aware of it. There's a rationale in the section on saidisms at the top of this thread.

>It’ll help keep it from spreading any further and help anypony on the ground to get through to help, okay?//
So, the keyword is "help" here?

>They all took off in different directions to redistribute what little rain they had to work with. Rainbow Dash took//
Repetition of "took."

>The water tower left her aura, crashing to the ground.//
Here's a danger of participles. They're easy to make into misplaced modifiers. Unless they start a clause, participles like to modify the nearest prior object. In some cases, the reader can apply a little logic and figure out what the writer meant, and while it's likely you meant the water tower crashed to the ground, the grammatical default is that Twilight's aura is, which is also a plausible interpretation, so it leaves your intention ambiguous.

>“Curses!” Twilight stamped a hoof. “How could this have happened!?”//
That's really, really, really cliched and undercuts the story's serious mood.

>Rainbow watched in awe
>Twilight breathed a sigh of relief.
>Twilight nodded in understanding.//
A few examples of telly language. There's a section on show versus tell up top as well. There are times that telly language is olay, and given that this is an action scene, it can be a way to keep the pace quick. Along those lines, the first one of these isn't bad, but the last two are ones where the telling is entirely superfluous. The discussion will explain why.

>Twilight nodded in understanding.//
And then you repeat this sentence exactly just a few paragraphs later.

>Racing out of bed, she threw open her bedroom door.//
Another danger of participles. They signify concurrent action, so you have these two things happening at the same time, while it's more reasonable that they'd happen in sequence.

>Without even realizing it, her hooves were already taking her towards the towering flames at full speed.//
Here's a dangling modifier. "Without even realizing it" should describe Rarity, but it describes her hooves. She doesn't even appear in the clause. And of course her hooves wouldn't realize anything. Be careful with this phrase anyway, as it's pretty cliched as well.

>her parent’s house//
She only has one parent?

>high pitched//
Hyphenate your compound modifiers.

>obfuscated//
Not the best word choice for an action sequence. You don't want the reader having to pause and think about what it means, or worse yet, looking it up. Fancy words are best held for slower moments.

>Racing around above the smoke//
Just used the same verb in the last sentence.

>on hoof//
You used the phrase "on hand" earlier. Be consistent.

>urging her to forsake her own safety to assuage the suffering//
Word choice is suspect here as well. The issue now is that the narrator is speaking in a limited perspective from Dash's point of view, so he needs to sound roughly like her. But I can't see Dash making these word choices, so it creates a disconnect.

>It took Dash a moment to realize what she was holding, or rather, who.//
Technically, this should be "whom," but regarding my previous comment, it would also require Dash to know that, and I doubt she would.

>ground. Pinkie tucked the twins close to her as she and Dash skidded across the ground.//
Repetition of "ground."

>Are you...are you okay?//
Leave a space after the ellipsis.

>a voice echoed as a cart approached.
>
>A stallion drawing a cart//
Repetitive.

>Worse, was that she knew she wouldn’t even be able to find it again through the smoke.//
No reason to have a comma there.

>Her lungs rejected the smoke//
Third use of "smoke" in two paragraphs.

>Halfway up the stairs,//
You're inconsistent about placing a comma after introductory words and phrases like this. Mostly, you go without. Either way is fine (going without is more common in British usage).

>The hot dry air burned her throat and, it was at that point, that she realized her coat was already drying.//
The first comma should go before the conjunction, and the second is unnecessary. But phrases like "at that point" in which the narration directly refers to itself break immersion.

>she stumbled to the top of the stairs where she tripped over something small and soft//
Needs a comma to separate the clauses.

>she just lied there//
Lay/lie confusion.

>Her hoof reflexively recoiled the moment she touched the handle. It burned!//
Hooves are basically like fingernails. It's not going to sense heat that quickly.

>Rarity stumbled away from the burning light. Once she was far enough away, she looked back at Sweetie’s room. It was completely consumed by flames.//
This scene is coming across as very factual. Surely Rarity has an emotional reaction to what she's seeing. When Sweetie Belle's room is full of fire, she's just going to calmly proceed to the next logical place to look? Particularly if you're going to take a limited viewpoint, the narrator should be reflecting Rarity's agitation.

>Luckily, Sweetie Belle managed to fall right on top of her.//
The phrasing makes it sound like Sweetie Belle did so on purpose.

>Finding her just a few feet away, Rarity started towards her.//
Another case where you synchronize actions that should occur in sequence.

>the burning ceiling came down.
>
>The burning debris//
Repetitive.

>Redoubling her efforts, she managed to shift the weight just enough for her to pull herself free.//
The participles are getting just as repetitive as the "as" clauses. This is the third one in the paragraph.

>she laid there a moment//
Lay/lie confusion.

>waiting for the surge of pain to pass. After the worst of it passed//
You'll usually set off a participle with a comma. Repetitive phrasing.

>that she was going to found//
Missing word.

>Alongside Twilight and the mayor, was the Princess of the Night: Luna.//
No reason to have a comma there.

>100%//
Write out numbers as words, unless they're quite long.

>I just-I couldn’t//
Hyphen where you need a dash.

>kicking nearby puddles//
That's more of an "aw shucks" reaction than real despair.

>she shot back//
The exact speaking action as her last quote.

>She hung her head before heading//
I know they're meant in different senses, but it's still a repetitive use of "head."

>like a bit idiot//
Typo.

>she took her frustrations out on Twilight//
Inconsistent with the past perfect tense you've been using.

>Landing next to Rarity’s door, she gave it a sharp series of raps.//
More synchronization problems. I'm not marking all of these.

>Taking wing, she started to explore.//
Three of the last four sentences use a participle, and they even have the same structure. And then so does the first sentence of the next paragraph.

>Dash turned her gaze to the Ponyville hospital. She felt a lump in her throat as she gazed upon it.//
Repetition of "gaze."

>pointing to the wall//
You can cut "to the wall." She already mentioned it, so that part is obvious.

>The worst was when one of the ponies asked for a name she barely recognized and the nurse told the poor stallion that she passed away.//
This is an emotionless fact. Let me see her reaction.

>studying the book before her//
Again, use a comma for the participle.

>Dash defied//
That's a poor choice of speaking verb, as it takes a direct object of the one being defied, not the speech that does so. And it does need a direct object, as it's a transitive verb.

>Even a cursory glance revealed that the fires got close enough to scorch the hairs.//
That's just awkwardly phrased.

>oh-so-slightly//
Cutesy phrasing is undermining the serious mood.

>smoke can be worse since it’s effects linger//
Its/it's confusion.

>Wake up,” she urged. She didn’t stir.//
Ambiguous use of "she." It'll be assumed they have the same antecedent if there's no other potential one in between them.

>taking stand next to her sister//
Syntax is off.

>as she looked out at the blazes.
>
>“We have separated the blaze into five isolated fires//
Repetitive use of "blaze," plus you use a shifting definition of one here.

>Dangit, Rainbow Dash! Did yah oversleep again!//
There's really no need to write such a thick accent for Applejack. Readers know what she sounds like and will fill it in for you. It's more about word choice and expressions for her. You don't want to make her a caricature or push it to the point tat her dialogue is hard to read.

>Applejack ran into Big Mac at the barn. The big, red stallion was hauling an empty cart out of the barn.//
Fairly repetitive use of "barn." You've already said that's where he was.

>Looking back, Dash ran a hoof through her mane.//
Looking back where? Without saying, it sounds like she's looking behind her, which she already was.

>just, gone//
Commas aren't for dramatic pauses.

>Dash trailed off//
You don't need to narrate trailing off or cutting off when they're already evident from the punctuation.

>back forth//
Missing word.

>"Right. I'll be right there," she announced, bolting towards Ponyville.//
Repetitive use of "right," and a synchronization problem again.

>Rainbow struggled to catch up to Applejack. "Whoa! What're you doing?" she urged, flying alongside Applejack.//
It wasn't much of a struggle if it took her one short, bland sentence to get there.

>won't me in//
Missing word.

>the hoofsteps above them//
Cut "the." Besides just sounding awkward, it also establishes them as existing before they waited for them.

>we didn't our rain//
Missing word.

>Granny didn't reply, urging Applejack to continue.//
Seemingly contradictory.

>"How awful," Granny said.//
Through this conversation, this sentiment's not coming through for any of them. You're relying on the dialogue alone to carry the emotion, but it'd surely show through their body language as well.

>We could let some ponies stay there tonight if they can't find a proper bed.//
You go back and forth between narration and dialogue four times in this paragraph. You generally want to limit it to twice if possible.

>S-shucks//
Consider what sound would actually be repeated.

>She sighed as she tried to remember the lines she'd rehearsed in her head.//
She's sighing a lot in this scene.

>H-How//
Unless it's a word that has to be capitalized anyway, only do so for the first part of a stutter.

>It might be//
Why scare Apple Bloom with this when AJ has no idea either way? Seems needlessly cruel.

>she curtly said rising to feet and meeting Apple Bloom's glare with one of her own.//
Missing comma and missing word.

>Surely she knows how Apple Bloom's friends're doin'//
I was going to complain about AJ never asking after them. At least you explained that, but now I'm going to complain about Dash not thinking to tell her. Scootaloo would probably be foremost on her mind, so I'm not sure how it slipped away from her.

>charred skeletons of homes and businesses. Many of the ponies were outside of the charred//
More repetition.

>normal, cheerful ponies typical of Ponyville//
"Normal" and "typical" are redundant.

>charred skeleton of a house//
You just used that exact phrase a couple sentences ago. Keep in mind your narration is in Apple Bloom's perspective, and this is some odd word choice for her. It's also odd to have a chapter titled "Aftermath: Applejack" that spends a significant amount of time in Apple Bloom's perspective, especially since we were in Applejack's coming out of the last chapter.

>seen-seen//
You've done this once before. Unless they're really short words, you usually see stutters of partial words and dashes for complete words.

>Mustering her nerve//
And now you've wandered into Cheerilee's point of view. Only she would know this, unless you couch it as Apple Bloom observing something about her that leads her to this conclusion.

>Sweetie Belle's parent's//
Again with her parents? She has two, right?

>charred skeletons//
I'll grant you that it may be tough to come up with a lot of ways to describe smoke and ash, so I cut you some slack in the first chapter. But you've already used this phrase three times in the chapter.

>Shaking off the blow, the looked around at the ponies.//
Typo.

>she'll-she's//
That does need to be a dash.

>towards Ponyville with a huge cart of apple treats. She'd made it about halfway towards Ponyville//
More repetition.

>Silver Spoon-Silver Spoon//
Dash.

>"Yeah," Apple Bloom muttered.//
A lot of muttering and mumbling going on lately.

>couple of dozen ponies//
Lose the "of."

>urged Twilight to stop unloading//
That's not a speaking action, especially since none of what she says accomplishes this.

>The next thing she knew, Applejack found herself just outside Scootaloo's hospital room.//
Authors tend to overuse the "found herself" action. It suggests that the character is caught up in events beyond her perception or control, neither of which is the case here.

>The little filly lied there in her bed
>She lied, motionless, in her bed
>She just lied there//
Lay/lie confusion.

>The tawny unicorn nodded//
You haven't described the doctor yet. For all I know, this refers to Scootaloo.

>At this point//
He really likes this phrase, doesn't he?

>expelling a tear//
Really awkwardly phrased, and the single tear is horribly cliched.

>They-if//
You were doing fine in the first couple of chapters, but I'm finding a lot of hyphens now that need to be dashes.

>picking up her hat and putting it on low over her face//
Why did she put her hat down if she was going to pick it right back up?

>he gently pushed Rarity aside adjusted the mask on Sweetie's face//
Missing word.

>Where's mom and dad//
Capitalize when they're effectively used as names.

>She just gripped her pillow tight as she buried her face in it.//
She has a lot of repetitive actions like this.

>I know of at least five friend's//
Why is that apostrophe there?

>Breathing a deep breath in//
Redundant.

>We'll see yah through this Rarity//
Missing comma for direct address.

The story is quite good, and so is the characterization. The problems are more mechanical and stylistic in nature.

For one, you rely way too much on participles and "as" clauses. They create a repetitive feeling and cause a lot of synchronization problems. You really need to scour the story for these. You also use unusual speaking verbs almost exclusively, to the point that they take attention away from the speech, where it should be. And you use a lot of "to be" verbs. Of the easy forms to search for, here are the counts I came up with for each chapter: 85, 114, 84, 178. Overall, that's a rate of about one every other sentence. This is an inherently boring verb. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what merely is. You need to be choosing more active verbs. Then there are the more mundane things like consistent lay/lie confusion. I was a little surprised at the number of missing words and typos.

This is a story that's going to live or die based on making an emotional connection with the reader, and there are a number of places where you rely almost exclusively on the dialogue to do that work, at the expense of leaving the narration very factual. That'd be my only overall stylistic issue. Just keep a handle on your narrator's perspective as well.

These aren't all necessarily quick fixes, but I'd like to see this come back in good enough shape to post.
>> No. 130884
>>130881
You're free to ask questions here. It is a discussion thread as well, if need be. I use a different name on FiMFiction and prefer to keep the two activities separate.
>> No. 130885
>>130883
Ok
>> No. 130886
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>masked desperados//
Repetitive, since Thomas just called Bruce that.

>Sorry dad//
Needs a comma for direct address, and when it's effectively used as a name, capitalize Mom or Dad.

>I’m sure that you were no different when you were his age.//
Missing the closing quotation marks.

>Thomas said admonishingly, though his eyes betrayed his amusement//
Beware directly telling the reader how a character feels. Times to avoid this include key emotional moments, when we first meet an important character, and at the beginning and end of scenes, chapters, or the entire work. There's a section at the top of this thread explaining how to spot the most obvious offending language and a rationale for why it's counterproductive.

>They were just stepping outside of the Monarch Theater.//
I can already tell I'm going to encounter way too many "to be" verbs. They're inherently boring, as it's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what merely is. I'll tally them up at the end, but look at this paragraph as an example. You have five of these verbs in only four sentences.

>Thomas Wayne laughed,//
Be careful of your choice of speaking verbs. We'll see as I get further into the story whether this was just a questionable choice or if you are one of those authors who tries to tack non-speaking actions onto quotes. Assuming for now it's the former, then I'll just say that "laugh" is an iffy speaking verb at best, but it may be okay for a very short quote. But I can't see him laughing that entire one, especially since it doesn't suit his mood at all by the end of it.

>Sorry dad//
Direct address and capitalization again. You'll just have to scan for these. I'm not going to mark them all.

>ice-cream//
That's not a hyphenated word.

>Bruce’s head jerked up, “Really!?” he asked, face alight.//
So you are one of those authors who likes to tack non-speaking actions onto quotes with a comma. Don't do that. It's even redundant to try, as you've put an attribution afterward.

>Thomas Wayne nodded sagely, “Really.”//
Okay, I'm not going to mark any more of these either. But if you put an action on a quote with a comma, it has to be a speaking action.

>Can I get double scoop?//
Missing word.

>Thomas and Bruce both turned around to face Martha. “And what would that be, Martha dear?” Thomas asked. //
Looks like there's an extra blank line after this paragraph.

>Thomas spoke up//
You just used that speaking action recently. Have a look at the section on saidisms at the top of this thread. There are only a few speaking verbs that pass by virtually unnoticed. The rest are fine for flavor, but you don't want too many of them.

>she sounded slightly aghast at the idea.//
Capitalization.

>“Cake!” exclaimed Bruce, “Whoopee!”//
Also have a look at the dialogue punctuation/capitalization section. You can only transition out of a quote and back in like this if both parts of the quote form a single sentence, but they don't here. They're obviously punctuated as separate sentences.

>He was frozen.//
Yes, you already said that.

>The man with the gun smiled, it was a sinister smile//
Comma splice.

>the smile that a psycho-killer would smile in a horror movie right before he pulled out an axe and started chopping people up. But this wasn’t a movie.//
Two problems here. First, your narrator is in Bruce's perspective. Child Bruce. And child Bruce presumably hasn't seen horror movies with psycho killers, so what's his frame of reference for this? Second, he should be so dominated by fear here that he'd focus on more precise description of the smile in more concrete terms. If he has time to think about what it reminds him of, it undercuts the tension, unless the action is actually paused here, which you haven't indicated. He should have more of a raw, visceral reaction.

>At first he’s disoriented//
Show me this. Don't leave it as a cold fact. Let me see what he does, what images rush into his head before he can sort it out.

>He’s drenched in sweat, his bedding and pillows are soaked; the sheets have been kicked off.//
Semicolons suggest a formalism that doesn't work well with the comma splice that comes before.

>His body’s trembling; his heart’s pounding like a drum; he can hear the sound in his ears, droning out every other noise.//
Unless they separate items in a superlist, it's pretty clunky to use more than one semicolon in a sentence.

>THUMP, THUMP, THUMP, THUMP//
Don't use sound effects in narration. Just describe the sound.

>his arms coil into steel springs and his hands ball into fists in front of his chest//
Needs a comma between the clauses. There's an explanation in the section about comma use with conjunctions.

>This all happens//
Use of demonstratives (this, that, these, those) as pronouns is often immersion breaking, as it's the narration making note of itself.

>He stands like that for a tense second, as he gathers himself//
Minor point, but using a comma with an "as" clause creates a feel of "because," while going without creates a feel of "at the same time that."

>he speaks into the shadows//
Repetitive with how you'd described her as coming out of the shadows.

>She resembles a horse but to compare her to one would be to compare a chicken to a swan.//
Needs a comma between the clauses. This full description of her feels out of place. You can assume the reader knows who Luna is and what she looks like, and it's not necessary for Bruce's benefit either, as he's apparently met her before.

>though that too would be a shallow comparison//
Another comma needed. I've marked a few examples. You should sweep for the rest.

>Luna sighs, “That is not what I meant, Bruce Wayne.”//
Another questionable choice of speaking verb. This is also another common problem with dialogue. Look how often she uses direct address. That's just not done in natural conversation.

>so-inclined//
That's not a hyphenated phrase.

>she asked innocently
>Luna smiled, and said//
Why the lapse into past tense?

>at your quarters//
The usual phrasing is "in" your quarters.

It's fine to double space after a sentence, but be aware that FiMFiction sometimes put the line break in the middle of it, leaving you with small indentations in the left margin in places.

>earth//
As you've referenced it,this would be capitalized.

>looking affronted//
Describe it for me. That'll get me much more into Bruce's viewpoint.

>gourmet//
Really odd word choice. I'm not sure this means what you think it does. It's more someone who enjoys fine food and drink, not one who prepares it.

>pallet//
palate

>The last time Bruce Wayne had eaten any kind of meat, had been over six months ago: in his own world.//
No need for that comma, and that's an awkward place for a colon.

>the only animal product they cultivate is milk//
Don't they use eggs in their baking? If not, why keep chickens? They don't have any other use.

>he is shocked to see plate after plate heaped high with meats of every kind//
Again, let me see it. You've taken on a limited narrator, so you can have the narration carry his thoughts, opinions and reactions: But when he walks into the dining hall—what? Bacon, sausage, pork chops... He caught himself before tearing into the feast, since he really should seem as civilized as possible. For Luna's sake.

>a small white pony appears at his side, and starts speaking to him in Equestrian.//
Here's the opposite problem. That's all one clause, so it doesn't need a comma.

>Luna says with an amused look.
>
>Bruce looks//
Watch the close repetition of "look."

>walls” Luna says//
Missing comma.

>He echoes.//
I don't know what this means. Did he think this? It's not rendered as a speech attribution. As a separate sentence, it doesn't fit in.

>between out nations//
Typo.

>Aether//
Why is this capitalized? And why is Bruce Wayne using a British spelling?

>now empty//
Hyphenate the compound descriptor.

>My knowledge of Equestria’s economy is somewhat lacking I’m afraid.//
Missing comma.

>slide of steak//
Can't say I'm familiar with this terminology. Perhaps a typo?

>For those that are so inclined, meat is available, but not economical.//
For one who claims not to understand economics, why is she making an economic argument?

>After I learned what protein was//
They really don't know? Nobody in Equestria has that as a dietary need? Or they wouldn't have learned of it from carnivorous races? That's pretty basic science to be ignorant of.

>I am only trying to help you, Bruce Wayne.”//
Since the next paragraph immediately picks up with another quote of hers, you don't need the closing quotation marks here.

>Bruce stares at her warily. Luna stares back, smiling.//
There's an awful lot of staring going on in this scene.

>The question has taken him off guard//
So let the narration reflect his agitation and shock. This is an emotionless fact.

>blind-sided//
blindsided

>Luna takes her glass in horn and takes a long sip.//
Close repetition of "takes."

>Luna’s face and tone betray nothing, but Bruce can tell she’s surprised. Just the slightest twitch of her eyes gives it away. When she wants to, Luna can transform her features into those of a smiling statue.//
Here's an example of two things: good emotional context, through which we can infer Luna's mood through how she looks and acts, versus having the narrator bluntly tell us, and good use of the limited narration to delve beyond the facts to present Bruce's personal thoughts and impressions. These are the kinds of things I'm looking for throughout the story.

>Bruce doesn’t answer.//
I appreciate minimalism, but it would help to get a little more variety in sentence structure. It's quite rare for you to start a sentence of narration with anything but the subject, which also leads to a lot of sentences that start with a name.

>fresh, almost sweet. Every breath feels cool and refreshing//
Kind of repetitive.

>it burns and scratches the throat like a murder of crows//
Your simile is lost on me. How would crows burn and scratch his throat? Scratch, I guess from talons, but it's just odd to even picture crows being in there to do that. And about the burn, I have no idea.

>Batman steps to the edge of the tower veranda, the street is all but invisible below him.//
Comma splice.

>He takes another breath, and steels himself; quashing the burgeoning fear.//
The participle would be set off with a comma, not a semicolon, and the existing comma is unnecessary.

>The wind roars at him, whipping at him//
Repetitive "at him." Really, you could just cut the first one.

>He has to time this perfectly, if he makes a single mistake//
Comma splice.

>Everything slows down.//
Your paragraph indentation gets weird here. This can vary by browser or how you imported the story.

>Batman grabs his cape and spears his arms out to either side, instantly he’s jerked upward//
Comma splice.

>eighty story//
Hyphenate the compound modifier.

>his knees audibly pop//
As opposed to inaudibly?

>Well that’s something he thinks.//
Missing comma between the thought and the attribution.

>repels//
Rappels, except that refers specifically to a descent.

>Feigned surprise passes over her face.//
What about it makes him decide it's feigned?

You refer to both a balcony and a veranda here. Which is it? They're different things, and a veranda is often on the ground floor.

>“I’m fine,” he says, annoyed.//
Use the narration to have him express his annoyance. Don't just tell me. If an actor came on TV and said, "I'm annoyed," how interesting would that be? Show me the things that actor would do to get across his character's emotion. There's a section on show versus tell at the top of this thread, since I seem to be finding a lot of tell spots.

>“I insist.” She says firmly.//
Dialogue punctuation/capitalization.

>and the pain begins to fade, when she opens her eyes//
Comma splice.

>and in its place, is a slight tingling sensation.//
Unnecessary comma.

>Do not worry yourself, Bruce Wayne//
Still, she's calling him by name way too often for a natural-sounding conversation. But what I wanted to point out here is that she's calling him Bruce while the narration is calling him Batman. Insofar as the narration is limited, that would reflect how he sees the situation. So he thinks of himself as Batman right now, but Luna isn't calling him that. Why not? Has he asked her to? Does she not know he goes by that?

>if I was a pony//
Hypothetical statements use subjunctive mood: if I were a pony.

>“for example//
Capitalization.

>but he’d need to see the spell working in real time, to prove it//
Unnecessary comma.

>He tests out his arms and legs, nothing.//
A comma doesn't feel right there. Perhaps a dash.

>back in place. “Thank you,” he says, turning back//
Close repetition of "back."

>says “if//
Punctuation/capitalization.

>I apologize, ‘twas not my intent.//
Comma splice. And smart quotes always get leading apostrophes backward. Paste one in the right way.

>“You fear that when you return to your city that you will not be able to protect it.”//
Would he also be concerned about what's happening in Gotham City during his absence? He never mentions it.

>Bruce doesn’t reply; just stares off into the starry horizon.//
The formalism of a semicolon is contradicted by the use of a sentence fragment.

>They call me,//
Commas are not for dramatic pauses.

>really!?
Capitalization.

>“Okay, boys, let’s go get some ice-cream.//
Missing the closing quotation marks.

>Blood is everywhere.//
I'm not sure how you're deciding verb tense. You rendered the last dream sequences in past tense, so I don't know why you're using present here, particularly since this picks right up from one in the last chapter that was past tense.

>the words spoken slowly through its massive teeth, blood dripping down its chin//
It's clunky to stack up like elements in a sentence, like the two absolute phrases here.

>The pain is excruciating.//
That's rather bland to get it across to the reader.

>broken-glass-voice//
Lose the second hyphen.

>Batman is walking down an alley with his two little sidekicks—when suddenly//
I don't see what the dash accomplishes here. A comma wouldn't change anything.

>Man-Bat brings Batman’s face to his, until they’re scarcely an inch apart.//
They were barely any further apart to start with.

>droplets of bloody spittle fly into Batman’s face as he speaks.//
Capitalization. And this is already the ninth instance of "blood" in the first screenful.

>He tries to desperately to move//
Extraneous word.

>fight!//
You've been italicizing ! or ? when they're on italicized words, which is the preferred way. Be consistent.

>He just lays there//
Lay/lie confusion. Lay/laid/had laid/ takes a direct object. Lie/lay/had lain/ does not.

>says “Don’t//
Missing comma.

>Perfectly//
Why is this capitalized?

>super villains//
Usually rendered as a single word.

>small time//
Hyphenate the compound descriptor.

>ENOUGH!//
Italics are preferred over bold or all caps for emphasis or volume.

>a voice thundered out
Another tense shift.

>Suddenly//
You just used this ten words ago. It's also a word that inexperienced writers tend to overuse. If it's sudden, let the narration reflect that.

>CRACK//
Just put it in normal font. It's a valid word.

>and as suddenly as it appeared//
And repeating this word again in the same paragraph.

>blinded, then the filters in his visor adjust and begin to compensate for his blinded//
Repetition of "blinded."

>but before him is no horse , her body is a hurricane made flesh//
Extraneous space and a comma splice.

>Her head is lowered, horn pointed towards Man-Bat.//
You've started four straight sentences with the same word, and it's not creating a thematic effect.

>There's a flash if exquisite pain//
Typo, and he's so stoic about the pain that it's not real to the reader. Surely he reacts to it in some way.

>It’s just a dream; albeit, a very lucid one.//
Misused semicolon. You don't have an independent clause after it.

>it’s not too hard to imagine how he must look right now, his shoulder and chest are soaked in moist warmth underneath his armor//
Comma splice.

>She goes
>her aura//
Extraneous spaces.

>It’s not a human skull, the teeth are too long//
Comma splice.

>But Batman knows beyond any possible doubt, that the skull is looking at him.//
Unnecessary comma.

>Slowly, the claw moves towards the skull and places one bony talon to its teeth conspiratorially. The skull slowly//
Repetition of "slowly."

>shadows//
The use of this word is also getting repetitive.

>Move damn it!//
Missing comma.

>He felt a fury rise up in him//
Tense switch again.

>rake a bloody triptych gashes//
Missing word, and a somewhat odd use of "triptych." It connotes pictures, which would be non-real representations. It would create the feel that they were superficial.

>Shock and horror fight for dominance upon Luna’s face//
Show me.

>says “Not//
Missing comma.

>me,Luna//
Missing space.

>I do not intend to run, nightmare, I intend to fly.//
Missing closing quotation marks.

>You think you’re pretty fluffy wings will save you//
Your/you're confusion.

>beating with stolen life.
>
>Luna beats her wings//
Repetition of "beat."

At this point, I'm just seeing the same problems over and over, so I'll only bring up new ones.

>to hurt harm him//
Syntax is off.

>ten foot
>twenty five foot//
Hyphenate the compound modifiers.

>I just hope you don’t have to do that again, anytime soon.//
Unnecessary comma.

>I fear that is only a matter of time//
Missing word.

>deathdeath//
Not sure what's going on here.

>Restorative magic has never been my strength, and my strength is fading//
Repetitive.

>flash bang//
flashbang

>you !//
Extraneous space.

>takee//
Typo.

>82nd//
Spell out numbers this short.

>eighty two//
Missing hyphen.

>and the takes shape//
Typo.

>Nestled against the wall opposite the elevator//
The fact that he's taking all this space to describe the Bat Cave undercuts the action. It suggests he has time to pause.

>florescent//
fluorescent

>Inside, are racks filled with batarangs//
Absolutely no reason for that comma to be there.

>twenty five-thousand//
You're right in that there needs to be a hyphen there. You're wrong in where you chose to put it.

>twenty three//
You really need to go back through your numbers. You're missing several hyphens.

>plunges the blade into Man-Bat’s chest//
Even if he knows academically that he's not killing, I'm not sure he could go through with an action that would kill under normal circumstances. Wouldn't he find this unsettling? As opposed as he is to guns, for instance, I doubt he could bring himself to shoot Man-Bat, even if he knew it wasn't real.
>> No. 130887
>>130886
So, what are the overall issues? First, the mechanical ones. It should be obvious by the frequency with which I had to point things out. Luna uses direct address far too often for reasonable conversation, you have lots of comma splices, non-speaking actions tacked onto speech with commas, missing commas for speech attributions, some missing quotation marks, spots of inappropriate telling, verb tense shifts, sound effects in narration, most of your semicolons are misused, multiple semicolons in a sentence, repetition of words, phrases, and sentence structures. You also use quite a lot of "to be" verbs. They're inherently boring. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. You should be choosing more active verbs.

Partly because of the telling, the narration is pretty dry and doesn't do enough to carry the emotion. Much of that is left solely to the dialogue, and this is most apparent in the two dream sequences from the first chapter, which were pretty dull.

On the good side, the action sequences kept up my interest, you have a nice, dark mood going, and your characterization of Bruce is quite good. His skepticism of Luna and his aloofness come across very well, and it was on the strength of that that I decided to give you a more detailed review.
>> No. 130890
>>130887
I appreciate the effort and time that you have expended to bring these issues to my attention.

You've definitely given me some food for thought.
>> No. 130899
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>The first few mornings had been terrible.//
It's not practical to rid your story of all "to be" verbs, but it's a good idea to use active language where you can. The beginning of a story is a good place to do so, since it immediately creates action. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what merely is. You have three already in the first paragraph.

>after-effect//
>side effects//
I realize these are different things, but I been you could rephrase one of them to sound less repetitive.

>remembered— vague//
If you're using en dashes, put a space on both sides. For an em dash, don't leave space on either side. Make a sweep for these.

>sweet metallic//
These are coordinate adjectives and need a comma between them.

>For those first few mornings//
This looks intentional, but there aren't enough cues there for me to assume it isn't a mistake. If it's something that ties in with a thematic element that's already been established, repetition can work. Otherwise, you have to call attention to it so that the reader knows it's deliberate. For instance, placing an "and" before this final one.

>For the first time in her life//
Now you've begun three sentences in a row with the same word.

>Luna’s beautiful night//
References to the princesses' possession of the sun, moon, night, day, etc. are very cliched.

>along with any movie night where Rainbow Dash was in charge of the film//
What does this even mean? It's never explained, so what's the point of bringing it up?

>little critters were nocturnal; they needed just as much love and care as her little day-dwelling friends//
Watch the repetition of "little."

>(Twilight was busy, and apparently Rainbow Dash would have given the stallion the wrong impression)//
Parentheticals like this are best suited for a very conversational narration, like first-person or a very deep third-person limited. Why not just state this outright without the parentheses?

>It was supposed to be a nice night out//
You really gloss over this bar scene. It's not going to carry as much weight if we just see it summarized after the fact. Since it's the whole setup for what happens in the story, I'd recommend spending a little time in there with them.

>Rarity had fallen into a bit of a slump, and had hit the bottle hard//
There's a section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread. You don't need one here, since it's a single clause.

>Fluttershy babbled in panic, as she held Rarity’s limp body in her hooves.//
"As" clauses are a little trickier. With a comma, they tend to create a feel of "because," and without, a feel of "at the same time that." Also, I'd rather see her act panicked than to have you tell me that's how she feels. There's an explanation in the section on show versus tell.

>dimly-lit//
Compound modifiers don't take a hyphen if they're two-word phrases that start with an -ly adverb.

>that stallion, left with Sassaflash//
Commas aren't for dramatic pauses.

>lamp post//
lamppost

>sweet metallic//
Repetitive with the way you described it before.

>tongue. as//
Incorrect punctuation.

>Fluttershy darted forward and licked at the blood, before pulling back in horror.//
Unnecessary comma. And don't tell me she's horrified. Show me.

>She watched as the two pinprick holes closed over, the only sign of their encounter was a faint stain of pink against the pale white-gray of Rarity’s coat.//
Comma splice. You used this exact "two pinprick holes" phrasing earlier in the same paragraph. And spelled it differently.

>Fluttershy babbled in panic//
Another phrasing you've used before, word for word.

>Fluttershy lifted her friend over her shoulders. and took flight.//
Extraneous punctuation. And the last time she lifted Rarity like this, it took an "uncanny and unknown strength." It sounds rather routine here.

>Carousel Boutique was not far from the park, and she flew with amazing speed.//
You've been keeping the story in Fluttershy's perspective, so it's odd for her to make the "amazing speed" judgment about herself.

>her eyes did not match the flowing pink mane or her pale-gold coat//
Odd to characterize "the" mane, but "her" coat. One implies a distance, while the other doesn't.

>It— It’s//
Unless it's a word that has to be capitalized anyway, only do so with the first instance in a stutter.

>“So-you’re-a-vampire-pony-and-you-attacked-one-of-your-best-friends-last-night”//
Use either the quotes or the hyphens. You don't need both.

>Rarity sat on a chair, still a little woozy from blood loss.//
She was perfectly fine in the previous scene. And Fluttershy was never described as drinking much.

>H-How//
Capitalization

>Ponyville Express//
Underline or (preferably) italicize the name of a newspaper.

>Princess Celestia has always denied requests from reporters to allow interviews with the so-called saviors of Equestria.//
Why would Celestia be acting as their press agent?

>again…” Rarity’s blush intensified; her cheeks nearly outshone Twilight’s light spell. “…i-if//
You look like you're trying to put a narrative aside in the quote. Here's how:
again—” Rarity’s blush intensified; her cheeks nearly outshone Twilight’s light spell “—i-if

>“Ya heard Twi; ya need to replenish yer blood, and it ain’t gunna help if it’s all in yer face!”//
Don't overwrite her accent. The reader already knows what she sounds like, and you don't want to make it more difficult to read. Getting her voice right is more about word choice and phrasing.

>“Dibs being fed on next!”//
Italics are preferred over bold or all caps for emphasis.

>Princess Celestia frowned at the newspapers laying before her.//
Lay/lie confusion.

>Ponyville Express//
>Manehattan Journal//
>Vanhoover Daily//
>Hive Today//
>Appleloosan Gazette//
>Canterlot Times//
>Canterlot Digest//
Italicize.

>“welcomed our new vampony overlords.”//
This is inconsistent with the way you've formatted the other newspaper quotes. This way is actually preferable. There's no reason to italicize them.

>Luna chuckled as she entered the room.//
You've been using a lot of questionable speaking verbs. This one in particular turns up frequently. You don't want your choice of speaking verbs to stand out more than the speech itself. There's a rationale given in the section on saidisms.

>‘Twas//
Smart quotes always get leading apostrophes backward, as has happened here.

>“Oh, Tia… you’re no fun anymore.”//
Why does she suddenly drop the formal language here?

>Affection and pranking in one.//
This seems more from Luna's perspective, but the scene has been with Celestia's until now.

>Celestia shrieked, as Luna nuzzled her sister, wiping some of the smelly timberwolf ichor into her cheek.//
Misplaced modifier. "Wiping..." will tend to modify the nearest prior object. If it had been an inanimate object, I could apply a little logi and sort it out, but this is truly ambiguous. Grammatically speaking, Celestia performs this action, but I bet you meant for Luna to.

>WHAT USURPER WOULDST//
The conjugation is just "would" for third person.

>“And you did not think to inform Us?”//
So she capitalizes the pronoun for herself but not for Celestia?

>‘tis//
Another backward apostrophe.

>Ceased.
>
>That is a word. Not really a likeable nor dislikeable word. Just a word. No matter.//
Either you're saying that Fluttershy would actually think this with all the activity happening outside or your narrator is getting awfully meta. Neither one is a good thing.

>throng//
You just used that word.

>THY SUBJECTS//
Whom is she addressing? They're her subjects, right?

>What she saw outside made her practically crap herself.//
This doesn't seem like something Fluttershy would say.

>Strapped to her back was the most intimidating crossbow Fluttershy had ever seen.//
These sentences have an incredibly repetitive structure. And given a crossbow's reload time, they're only briefly intimidating.

>‘tis//
Backward apostrophe. There are more of these. You'll have to find them.

>the powerful buck of the princess//
These indirect possessions are often clunky. If you phrase it as "the princess's powerful buck," it loses nothing and is more direct and concise.

>Luna stepped through, barricading the door behind her.//
Another danger of participles: they synchronize actions. You're saying these happen at the same time, when it's more logical to have one happen after the other.

>leathery wings//
you just said this one sentence ago.

>do thee//
dost thou

>You’re a vampire, Fluttershy, a creature of the night, like myself and many others.//
Why is she dropping the formal speech again?

>thou hath//
hast

>to not//
Swap these.

I guess this means Luna is a vampire? That brings up some points that are never explained. Does Celestia know? If not, shouldn't Luna swear Fluttershy to secrecy? And if Celestia does know, she probably has for a long time, and could have gradually introduced the idea to the public. I just kind of have to accept this without explanation.

That said, this wasn't a bad story at all. A lot of niggling mechanical things and some spots of unapt telling, but nothing too daunting.
>> No. 130937
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>raise Rising//
This sounds a bit clumsy just because of the repetition. It lends an almost comic quality to the sentence which isn't really warranted. You could rephrase it as "care for Rising" or some such.

>Both pairs of wings traced out contrails as they squeezed the water from the air//
I appreciate that you're trying to be poetic here and that this unicorn quite possibly dosen't know any better, but this happens precisely for the opposite reason. Condensation forms because of low-pressure areas of the wing, where the local static temperature drops below the dewpoint (yes, my day job is as an aerodynamicist).

>Still, it was almost a boring fight to me; no matter how pretty it looked, I knew how it was going to end.//
You've used all these semicolons correctly, but I have to question the number of them. There are three things to consider. 1) Are they turning up often enough that their mere existence calls attention to itself and distracts from the story? In my opinion, it's getting there. 2) Is it plausible for the type of narration or dialogue? An omniscient viewpoint can use them pretty effectively, but a very limited or a first-person viewpoint will tend to be more stream of consciousness, so semicolons may be a poor fit. This is related to: 3) Is this character the type of person who would express himself with such formalism and know the finer points of grammar? I don't know enough about him yet to say, but given his occupation, it wouldn't seem to be one that requires a high level of education.

>briefly lived//
Awkward phrasing. I'd go with short-lived.

>wump//
It's preferred to keep sound effects out of narration for more serious writing. Just describe the sound.

>I do want to test myself against her.//
Perhaps add emphasis to "myself"? Otherwise, he seems a little to blase about it. I'd like to see a little more emotion from him about it. Is he acting vengeful? Impressed? Eager?

>Ice ran through my veins//
This is the only sens I get of his emotion. He's stating a lot of things factually here, and it would lend more credence if the phrasing and cadence of the narration and the physical symptoms he experiences reflected his emotional state. The former isn't always necessary, depending on narrative choice, but it's a good idea for first-person.

>let out a breath I hadn’t realized I’d been holding//
This is incredibly cliched.

>She tucked her wings tucked//
Repetition.

>As she approached the water, she made no effort to slow, only letting her magic trail out behind her, spooling out like streamers in the wind.//
It's a bit clunky to have two participial phrases in series like this.

>Celestia//
He uses this as invective often enough that it's standing out to me. It's getting distracting.

At this point, my Mary Sue siren is going off. Squall can just do no wrong. Great mother, apparently a great teacher, unassailable in contests. You've lost my sympathies for her. I'd encourage you to have one or both of these victories be difficult. She didn't really even have to try.

>I turned back to them and saw Gertrude tending to her husband, working some of the cramps out of his wings while he grimaced.//
Here's another danger of stacking up participles (and of participles in general): it's easy to make them misplaced modifiers. It's not obvious whether they're nested, i.e., whether "working..." refers to "husband" (this is the grammatical default) or "Gertrude."

>As I walked up to the//
Typo or missing word.

>Mine daughter//
Is this just his ignorance of English cases? Or is this an imitation of the German "mein"? Because if the latter, wouldn't ha also use the forms appropriate to the gender of the noun that follows (meine, in this case)?

>the coats of pegasi coats//
Repetition. And if you end up keeping the latter one, noun adjuncts are singular.

>to pretty effectively repel water except for their own tears//
Why would this be the case, and by what mechanism would it work? Tears are just slightly salty, so are their coats only effective against fresh water, not salt or brackish?

>She nodded and covered my hoof with hers, nuzzling it.//
How is she nuzzling it if it's covered?

>about the other species//
Given that he's using this in the plural, it would be clearer to eliminate "the."

>He actually had made it better, though.//
Maybe emphasize"had"? And watch the "to be" verbs. I didn't notice a ton in the first chapter, but there are six in this paragraph alone. They bring action to a standstill and are boring to read. You should be choosing more active verbs where possible. Then you have five more in the next paragraph. Okay, I'll go ahead and run the count. Of the easier to search forms, I found 77 in this chapter, which is a rate of about one every other sentence. That's how often something doesn't happen.

>No— I//
Either put space on both sides of a dash or neither. Don't just put space on one side.

>Rising was nine.//
Ah. Mary Sue runs in the family?

>magical bond of parental bond//
Repetitive.

>gangplank//
How big is this ship, and what is its mission? This wouldn't be conducive to loading cargo, for example, unless that will all be handled via crane. But if there's much manual carrying of cargo aboard, they'd probably use something larger, like a brow.

>watching as the the unicorns magicked the mooring lines off the bollards//
A bollard is typically something on the pier, not a ship. So the crew is remotely casting off shore lines from the ship? That's not standard procedure. Line handlers from shore would normally do that, under the port authority, and there may even be a harbor pilot brought aboard to steer the ship out past the breakwater. (Yes, that's also my day job. I'm an aerodynamicist for the Navy.)

>who I could fly with//
Whom. Your call on whether she knows that, since it's in her voice.

>She looked over at him as we continued down the street.//
That's pretty bland. She doesn't even know him yet. Surely she has some sort of reaction.

>She looked back and up at me.//
Same thing again.

>Maybe she thought it was a strange question since I was walking too.//
Needs a comma for the dependent clause.

>vould//
You hadn't been doing the w/v switch in her parents' speech, so why hers?

>I guess my confusion must have shown because she started to elaborate.//
Missing comma.

>I pointed to the door at the far end of it as we walked it.//
Missing word.

>missis Line//
It's akin to a title when used as part of her name like this. Capitalize.

>After placing her saddlebags under the bed//
Would a griffon call them saddlebags? Presumably, they don't wear saddles.

>little Star’s high little//
Repetition.

>Though,//
There's no reason to have a comma there.

>When I asked her fly a bit for me//
Missing word.

>soar high above the city. Putting Gabriella through her paces showed me her ability to soar//
Repetition.

>looked around for a moment//
This is already the 18th (and thankfully last) instance of "look" in the chapter.

>but she can pull lightning from empty air better than I can//
Verb tense.

>She says she’s not very good for a griffon, though.//
Again, why the shift to present tense?

>before I it was time to make them supper.//
Extraneous word.

>they compared when they Guiding got back//
Extraneous word.

>That was just awful. Worse, I knew it wasn’t just something//
"Just" is an easy word to lose track of and overuse. Close repetition of it here.

>Though, I couldn’t imagine my little colt doing anything to get that reaction.//
Again, no comma. It's rare for one after a conjunction to be used correctly.

>Celestia-damned//
This implies that she has (or is suspected to have) the ability and inclination to actually do so, which is a rather disturbing prospect. Adapting Earth expressions isn't always a good idea.

There are a few overall problems here. First off, much of the emotional content is bland. You have a first-person narrator, so you're in an ideal position for the narration itself to carry the emotion through the tone, word choice, and cadence, and yet much of it feels more like a bland listing of event after event. For that matter, the entirety of chapter 4 is narrated. We don't get to see any of the interactions. Squall would have to summarize things she didn't witness, but there's plenty of times she's there, and yet we hear that she had such and such a conversation without ever getting the dialogue. This chapter really dragged. Another issue with the narrative is that it's sometimes at odds with the characters. A first-person narrator is the character and so needs to sound like him, but I remarked at one or two points that the narrator was using formal structures and word choices that didn't seem plausible for the character. You use quite a few "to be" verbs. Of the easier forms to search on, I counted 102 in the fourth chapter alone, which is a rate of more than once every other sentence. These are inherently boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read about what happens not what merely is. You need to be choosing more active verbs.

The other biggie is that Squall Line and Rising Star both come across as blatant Mary Sues. Guiding Light has no doubt that Squall will win against the female griffon and sure enough, she does. Quite easily. She even feels bad about it later, so she also gets to take the moral high ground. Then she also beats the male griffon at his own game, which she's never played before. No matter. He's gone in one shot, and she's none the worse for wear. Then the son is charismatic (at least some of his friends abandon him when he sides with Gabriella), very advanced in magic for his age, not just generally, but able to cast spells that have never been seen before, and he's the smartest kid in his class. They're both so implausibly perfect that you've lost any rooting interest I might have in them.

Also note that it's pretty cliched to have a rhetorical question in your synopsis.
>> No. 130941
>>130937
I addressed your points about extraneous or missing words. Expectedly, they were all in places where I had changed my mind on how to structure the sentence.

"I appreciate that you're trying to be poetic here and that this unicorn quite possibly dosen't know any better, but this happens precisely for the opposite reason. Condensation forms because of low-pressure areas of the wing, where the local static temperature drops below the dewpoint (yes, my day job is as an aerodynamicist)."

Like you guessed, it's Guiding's lack of understanding. However, because I am also very interested in aeronautics, I'll change the verb to "pulled," which is closer to the actual phenomenon and wouldn't be outside the realm of possible words he would use to describe it.

"You've used all these semicolons correctly, but I have to question the number of them. There are three things to consider. 1) Are they turning up often enough that their mere existence calls attention to itself and distracts from the story? In my opinion, it's getting there. 2) Is it plausible for the type of narration or dialogue? An omniscient viewpoint can use them pretty effectively, but a very limited or a first-person viewpoint will tend to be more stream of consciousness, so semicolons may be a poor fit. This is related to: 3) Is this character the type of person who would express himself with such formalism and know the finer points of grammar? I don't know enough about him yet to say, but given his occupation, it wouldn't seem to be one that requires a high level of education."

On your first and second points, I disagree. If I were to punctuate how people actual people talk and (speaking for myself) think, I firmly believe that semicolons would appear often. In my experience, thoughts usually connect to each other highly enough to warrant semicolons. When I write, I make sure to use full stops more often than I would prefer. I don't know if it is only to semicolons you refer with your third point.

">As she approached the water, she made no effort to slow, only letting her magic trail out behind her, spooling out like streamers in the wind.//
It's a bit clunky to have two participial phrases in series like this."

I disagree, but I changed it anyway. I prefer to save on words when possible, and through the attention you called to this sentence, I gave it enough thought to shorten it a bit. It now reads:

As she approached the water, she made no effort to slow, only letting her magic spool out behind her like streamers in the wind.

">I turned back to them and saw Gertrude tending to her husband, working some of the cramps out of his wings while he grimaced.//
Here's another danger of stacking up participles (and of participles in general): it's easy to make them misplaced modifiers. It's not obvious whether they're nested, i.e., whether "working..." refers to "husband" (this is the grammatical default) or "Gertrude."

I fixed this.

I turned back to them and saw Gertrude working some of the cramps out of her husband's wings while he grimaced."

"Is this just his ignorance of English cases? Or is this an imitation of the German "mein"? Because if the latter, wouldn't ha also use the forms appropriate to the gender of the noun that follows (meine, in this case)?"

It's the former. Were it the latter, I would have it in italics, as is standard for foreign words.

">to pretty effectively repel water except for their own tears//
Why would this be the case, and by what mechanism would it work? Tears are just slightly salty, so are their coats only effective against fresh water, not salt or brackish?"

I answer this in the following sentence. Rather, I give a half answer, as Guiding cuts off a full explanation because he cares more about his wife than the phenomena and he doesn't fully understand it himself. I could have gone off on a long world-building spiel, but I felt doing so would harm the scene's tone.

"How is she nuzzling [Guiding's hoof] if it's covered?"

"Smiling, I rested a hoof on her cheek. “I just want you to be happy. Will you be, doing this?”

She nodded and covered my hoof with hers, nuzzling it."

It's easily done because his hoof was already on her cheek.

">watching as the the unicorns magicked the mooring lines off the bollards//
A bollard is typically something on the pier, not a ship. So the crew is remotely casting off shore lines from the ship? That's not standard procedure."

Not here, it's not. However, with unicorns, who have ranged telekinesis, they can and do "remotely [cast] off shore lines from the ship." It's not an issue for them to do so. While I appreciate you sharing your expertise, and I may even find a way to slip some of it into the fifth chapter, not all knowledge from Earth is transferable.

"You hadn't been doing the w/v switch in her parents' speech, so why hers?"

It's mainly for reasons of readability. In places where I felt that such a switch would make it awkward, usually with short words, I avoided it.

">No— I//
Either put space on both sides of a dash or neither. Don't just put space on one side."

I'm keeping this because it's cutting off one sentence, which would typically have no space before it. I thought over this particular bit of punctuation for a while before posting the chapter and came to the conclusion that I would need to change my other spaced dashes to the EN variety if I didn't want to have this be determined solely through context. Given that I use spaced EMs in all of my stories (and everywhere, really), I felt that changing all of them for something that occurs so rarely wasn't worth it.

"How big is this ship, and what is its mission? This wouldn't be conducive to loading cargo, for example, unless that will all be handled via crane. But if there's much manual carrying of cargo aboard, they'd probably use something larger, like a brow."

Again, I'm taking the path of magic — particularly that of the pegasus variety — allowing them to do things in ways not entirely similar to here.

"Would a griffon call them saddlebags? Presumably, they don't wear saddles."

Griffons would likely call them satchels or bags, However, a pony who is commenting on them would call them what she is used to calling them.

"[Celestia-damned] implies that she has (or is suspected to have) the ability and inclination to actually do so, which is a rather disturbing prospect. Adapting Earth expressions isn't always a good idea."

She banished her sister to the moon, and she has had monsters thrown into Tartarus. If the former doesn't fit closely enough to the definition for you, the latter still should.

"For that matter, the entirety of chapter 4 is narrated. We don't get to see any of the interactions."

That was done very deliberately. Without doing so, the story would have derailed from what it was intended to be about: how Rising's parents impact his life. Also, the story would drag on far too long; I had to cover more than a month of Guiding's trip to get to the next (obvious) plot point. What happens in chapter four is a story unto itself, and I want to eventually do it full justice, but in this story, it's not the time or place.

"You use quite a few "to be" verbs. Of the easier forms to search on, I counted 102 in the fourth chapter alone, which is a rate of more than once every other sentence. These are inherently boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read about what happens not what merely is. You need to be choosing more active verbs."

What you did there, in those last two sentences, I see it. That was well played, and I commend you for it.

That out of the way, I agree. When I edit for others, I point out the same thing. After all, using "to be" is usually what makes passively constructed sentences boring. I'll work on avoiding this in my prose.

"Then she also beats the male griffon at his own game, which she's never played before. No matter. He's gone in one shot, and she's none the worse for wear."

If someone challenged a professional bodybuilder to an arm wrestling match, even if that person was very well conditioned, the challenger would be expected to lose. This is a similar situation, the difference being that aptitude with lightning is not so easily seen as bulging muscles are. The match is supposed to be akin to bloody knuckles; both sides are expected to be able to take multiple hits from lightning before one gives up. This is typically done between griffons, though. I see their attacks as less powerful but far faster than those of pegasi. Squall's attack took far longer to build than Gregor's, which makes it unsuitable for an actual fight.

"able to cast spells that have never been seen before"

Oh, it has been seen before, and it's not even a difficult spell, really. It's just not commonly used, so Squall isn't familiar with it. Mostly, this sort of spell is used in magic classes for the pegasi and earth ponies who have an interest in higher education and how their world works. Squall doesn't fit into this group.
>> No. 130942
>>130941
>If I were to punctuate how people actual people talk and (speaking for myself) think, I firmly believe that semicolons would appear often.
You'll find yourself very much in the minority on this one. Semicolons are quite formal, while streams of thought change direction on a whim. It's much more common to see this type of cadence rendered through dashes, ellipses, and fragments.

>I disagree, but I changed it anyway.
Stacking participles makes sentences ramble and leads to misplaced modifiers. You can use them if you like, but any good reviewer will call you on it.

>Were it the latter, I would have it in italics, as is standard for foreign words.
Not necessarily, depending on usage. In your case, you're using a lot of imitative spellings, and it would be distracting to alternate between the two. If someone spoke an entire paragraph in a foreign language, you wouldn't italicize it, or if someone was speaking pidgin English, you wouldn't italicize every other word.

>It's easily done because his hoof was already on her cheek.
It's still misleading. The idea is to achieve clarity.

>Not here, it's not. However, with unicorns, who have ranged telekinesis, they can and do "remotely [cast] off shore lines from the ship." It's not an issue for them to do so. While I appreciate you sharing your expertise, and I may even find a way to slip some of it into the fifth chapter, not all knowledge from Earth is transferable.
The issue wasn't whether it would be feasible for unicorns. The issue is that the port authority doesn't want the ship's hands doing this themselves, because there's no way they know how skilled the workers are and for liability reasons. If he owned the pier, it'd be a different matter.

>I'm keeping this because it's cutting off one sentence, which would typically have no space before it.
It doesn't matter whether a new sentence is starting. You still either leave a space on both sides or run both words against the dash. All of the pre-readers will call you on this.

>Griffons would likely call them satchels or bags, However, a pony who is commenting on them would call them what she is used to calling them.
You've also made these ponies out to be familiar with griffons. Wouldn't this be something they'd know?

>She banished her sister to the moon, and she has had monsters thrown into Tartarus. If the former doesn't fit closely enough to the definition for you, the latter still should.
Banishment is a quite different thing than damnation. One only implies exclusion. The other also implies torment.

>That was done very deliberately.
Proceed at your own risk. It wouldn't take much to show a few of those anecdotes live. By keeping it all as narration, you risk making the chapter very boring and difficult to get through, which was the case for me. The chapters following such often show steep drop-offs in views. You're free to keep it this way if you like, but we've rejected a lot of stories for it.
>> No. 130946
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Four of the six sentences in the third paragraph begin with "the," and understandably enough, the subject. In fact, all six sentences start with the subject. It's a fine thing to get across boredom and routine to the reader without making the story boring, so be very careful.

>minutia//
You're using it for a plural reference, so "minutiae."

>if I put it off//
Needs a comma after the dependent clause.

>Even now she was letting her mind think ahead of her.//
You use an awful lot of "to be" verbs. In this case, what does it lose to say, "Even now she let her mind think ahead of her." It's more active. These are inherently boring verbs. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what simply is. Of the easier forms to search, I count 68 in this chapter alone, which is more than one every other sentence. That's how often something doesn't happen. You need to be choosing more active verbs.

>Every turn of the page had gotten easier, though. When she finally arrived at the page//
These feel a bit awkward juxtaposed, a little contradictory even.

>adrenalin//
Spelled this way, it's actually a proper noun and not quite what you mean. You want "adrenaline."

>Applejack was already pulling up a plastic bag//
>Twilight was already pulling out the money//
Look at the similarity of these, just one line apart.

>She had asked Cheerilee the name and address of the place twice, this had to be it. //
Comma splice.

>Her tone was defensive than she had intended.//
Missing a "more," I think.

>“Well, perhaps not vocally, but your body language says otherwise.” Cheerilee said simply.//
Dialogue punctuation.

>cross section//
Hyphenate.

>a bunch of judgmental children Is not//
Extraneous capitalization.

>but now that Cheerilee had used the word//
Comma after the dependent clause.

>She turned to leave, and promptly bumped into Pinkie Pie.//
It's all one clause, so you don't need the comma.

>I’ll help you, there’s all sorts of ways to make new friends!//
Comma splice.

>and as she climbed the stairs//
>and just as she was about to try a door//
>Even as she made the decision//
Comma needed after the dependent clauses.

>Oh, hey Twilight!//
Needs a comma for direct address.

>Except,//
Unneeded comma.

>She had learned several times that Rainbow Dash had plenty of good ideas, sometimes she just needed time to express them.//
Comma splice.

>“Oh, you know,” Dash shrugged, “stuff.”//
You can't shrug dialogue. Maybe you meant that as an action in an aside? If so, here's how to do one:
“Oh, you know—” Dash shrugged “—stuff.”

>Yea//
"Yeah" generally works better, as it's pronounced a little differently.

>Cheerilee draped a hoof over Twilight’s shoulder, started to lead her into the building.//
Using a fragment feels a little out of place here, since you haven't been carrying a tone like that throughout the story.

>Cheerilee over to her desk//
Missing word.

>And yet, she didn’t bother to contradict Cheerilee.//
Unneeded comma.

I'm really torn about this story. The first item might be an oversight, but I think it's an important one. The spell specifically said that the effects weren't permanent. That implies Twilight will eventually revert to her old life. Since the onset of it rewrote her life, the expiration must as well, so it's not like she'll be trapped in this situation once that happens. It does bring up the question of whether she'll remeber any of this, given how she can't remember her real life while under the spell's influence. I have a niggling feeling that you did mean for the spell to be permanent, however, so if that's the case, go back and edit that in.

In either case, though, Twilight hasn't learned anything. The whole point of the story is to deliver a message, and while it does that for the reader, it hasn't done that for Twilight. If the effects are permanent, she'll never learn, and she seems rather unconcerned about it. She's happy with her life, so while she can contemplate this issue of choice, it's not implied that she'd have any regrets about the state of her life. But if the spell is not permanent, then the story's real power comes from her going back to her old life with the new realization that she's the sum of her choices, and while that might mean putting up with boring duties, it also means she has her friends. It might even inspire her to be more assertive about keeping her friends together and streamlining the parts of her day that she doesn't like. While there is a moral on display for the reader, Either Twilight never gets one that has a real, personal application, or the story stops well short of her getting it.

This was a nicely written story, and I would have put it on the fast track to posting (after cleaning up the detailed issues, particularly the plethora of "to be" verbs), but when the story marches inexorably on to deliver an obvious truth to Twilight, only to have her in a situation where she won't ever fully realize it or stopping before she gets to that point, depending on the ambiguity of the spell's permanence, just leaves the whole thing feeling unfinished. If you can do something about that, I'd be happy to post it.
>> No. 130947
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

So, sadfics are a specialty of mine. Let's see how we can really whip this into something even more special.

>wrought iron//
Since it's being used as a descriptor, hyphenate it.

>The hedges towered over the iron walls and stood as near perfect rectangles all along the property.//
What iron walls? Of the house? Or along the edge of the property? If the latter, she's already described the gate and columns near her, so why didn't she add the walls back then. This leads into my other point: You want the description to flow pretty continuously as her eye scans from the gate, further and further away, until you get to the house. You do that fine, but then you add the hedges and walls afterward. Keep it in a logical order.

>It rustled in a light breeze, as the edges made a desperate attempt to catch in the wind and fly away//
Note that using a comma with an "as" clause tends to create a feeling of "because," while going without more often connotes "at the same time that."

>his daughter; Diamond Tiara//
Your're defining, clarifying, or providing an example here. Use a colon.

>“Although… it would be faster to just go there now.”//
Having a character muse out loud to herself can quickly exhaust a sense of authenticity. She can wonder to herself in the narration. The more she monologues, the less real it will seem.

>porch. His knees wobbled as he trotted to the edge of the porch//
Watch the close repetition of words.

>I’m sorry sir//
Needs a comma for direct address.

>“Best that you do. You wouldn’t want to be on the grounds when Miss Tiara’s dogs are out,” and the door shut behind him.//
You can't just tack an action onto a quote with a comma. It has to be a speaking action. As is, you'd have to make these separate sentences.

>The dog narrowed his eyes and began to growl. He rose from his haunches and started moving slowly towards her, teeth bared.
>
>Apple Bloom tensed and started backing away.//
This is somewhat of a pet peeve for me, but I think it makes for good writing advice, too. You have three sentences in a row with "start" or "begin." These are verbs that inexperienced authors use too often, and often as a blunt tool. It's a given that any action would start, so spelling it out is fairly redundant. It's only worth calling attention to a beginning when it's noteworthy for some reason, like it's abrupt or the action gets interrupted.

>The dog let out a single, ferocious bark, and dug into the ground as it lunged at her.//
The second comma is unnecessary, since it's all a single clause. When using a comma with a conjunction, check to make sure there are actually distinct subject/verb pairs. There are some examples in the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>Apple Bloom allowed herself a burst of speed in to close the gap as fast as possible//
That "in" is extraneous.

>It shook its head as it finally stopped and stared at the other dog.//
This is the third time in four sentences that you've used an "as" clause. It makes for a repetitive feel.

>the two dogs synchronized in their movements//
That's pretty awkwardly phrased.

>on Filthy Rich’s property//
This really doesn't bear saying. There's no reason to think she wasn't still there.

>As the dogs closed in, their barks became louder behind her. She barely made it into the bushes as a set of teeth grazed her tail.//
Yeah, it's really getting noticeable how many "as" clauses you use.

>her face full of anger//
Read the section on "show versus tell" at the top of this thread. In short, you'll forge a much stronger emotional connection with the character by describing her in such a way that I can tell she's angry without your having to say so. And it's pretty important to make a connection like that when the character is first introduced.

>On the other side of the bushes, Apple Bloom raised her eyebrow at what she saw.//
Modifier placement is hindering your meaning here. Because of their proximity in the sentence, it sounds like Apple Bloom is on the other side of the bushes.

>Her eyes focused on the stone//
From her vantage point, how could Apple Bloom tell this?

>Hi mom//
Needs a comma for direct address, and when used in place of a name, "Mom" gets capitalized.

>ok//
Spell it out as "okay."

>mommy//
Same as before. Capitalize.

>She started sobbing loudly with nopony around to hear her save for Apple Bloom.//
Be very careful. If you cross the line to melodrama, the story loses its power, because it feels less real. People in general try to control themselves. Plus she'd reasonably assume that someone in the house might hear her. I doubt she'd want the butler to know, and there may well be other staff. Also consider that this isn't a fresh wound for her, so she's had some time to get used to it. In sad stories, less is often more.

>Apple Bloom’s chest felt tightened.//
Why bother putting that "felt" there? It's unnecessary and actually distances the sensation from her.

>She remembered what had happened to Diamond Tiara’s mother so long ago, but only remembered slivers of it.//
Watch the close repetition of "remembered."

>The branch gave way beneath Apple Bloom, and she plummeted to the ground below with a loud scream. She landed hard on the grass and rolled away from the branch in a heap. Her head spun, her vision went blurry and pain lanced at her sides. She struggled to roll onto her belly and stand, aches nipping at each leg. She slowly lifted her head, coming face to face with Diamond Tiara.//
This whole sequence is quite stoic. Where is Apple Bloom's emotion during it? Since you're keeping the narrative point of view with her, the narrator can reflect her mood by getting excited, stating her thoughts for her, changing tracks rapidly. You want the narration to be reflective of her mood and state of mind here.

>She heard soft voice//
Missing word.

>“Are you okay, Apple Bloom?” Scootaloo asked. “You don’t look so good.”//
I'm scanning ahead in the conversation a bit, and for two friends who should be concerned about her, they don't act that way. In fact, they don't act much at all. Let me see some more of their body language and expressions here. There's a rationale give in the section on talking heads at the top of this thread.

>Apple Bloom shook her head, and forced a smile.//
Just a reminder to work out these comma/conjunction issues. I've only pointed out a few examples.

>Scootaloo sneezed and rubbed her nose.//
Missing a line break here. And look at the paragraphs around here. See how many of them begin with a very short declarative sentence. It's nice that you're alternating narration and dialogue pretty well, but when all of the narration has the same structure, it starts to feel like a list.

>she just muttered a quiet, “here.”//
By making this a generic thing and not actual speech through the use of "a," the rules of dialogue don't apply. You're fine with it being lower case, but you don't need the comma.

>as small coils of guilt started working their way up and tightening around her neck//
The physical description is nice but the outright use of "guilt" robs this of its subtlety.

>“Yes, that sounds okay. Thank you, Miss Cheerilee.”//
This could really stand some more description. Spend a little while in Apple Bloom's head while this is going on. Is she doubled over and clutching her stomach? Does she feel like she's going to throw up? Is she going to agree to whatever Cheerilee says just so she can get to that cot quickly? Does she really want Big Mac or AJ to come check on her? Does the cool air in the back room feel good to her? Details like that will really sell this moment. This is a big emotional crux of the story, so don't gloss over what impact it has on her. I see that she never goes to the back room, but there's no reason she couldn't. It might give her a moment to think, and then she leaves. Your call on that one.

>She forced more breaths down into her lungs as she waited for somepony to answer.//
Four sentences in a row with an "as" clause.

>which cast a long, square silhouette into the room//
Well, no, the silhouette would be Apple Bloom's. A silhouette is the backlit shadow, not the light.

>child jewelry//
Odd phrasing. "Children's," maybe?

>On the other side was a four poster bed//
Look how much of this description relies on boring "to be" verbs. You should be choosing more active verbs here.

>Diamond Tiara dismissed//
That's a really questionable choice of speaking verb, but it's transitive in any case. It needs a direct object, and the dialogue doesn't count.

>struggled to back away, but with little effort//
That's kind of contradictory. "Struggle" implies more than a little effort.

>actin//
Missing the apostrophe.

>status improving...thing//
Hyphenate the descriptor and leave a space after the ellipsis. The latter happens throughout the story.

>She collapsed to the ground.//
Pretty repetitive with collapsing to her haunches.

>She couldn’t finish the sentence, she just shrugged and dug herself deeper into her legs.//
Comma splice.

>‘em//
Smart quotes always get leading apostrophes backward. This happens a few times.

>Diamond Tiara paused. She turned her head, staring with disbelief. “What did you say?”//
This is a bit over the top. It doesn't feel like something a real person would do, more like something you'd see in a Hallmark movie. Really, really put yourself in DT's place and think about what her response would be. Quite possibly, she wouldn't say anything, just watch and wait, leaving the ball in AB's court.

>honest to goodness//
Hyphenate.

>She shuddered and buried her head into Apple Bloom’s neck and wept against her.//
Compare this to the earlier outright sobbing. This is much more controlled and much more natural feeling. I'd argue that it's also much more powerful for its restraint.

>A chill wind swept over the hill on the Rich property.//
The first two paragraphs of this scene have quite a bit of word repetition. That just makes the writing feel unimaginative, unless it's clear that the repetition is deliberate, but there are none of the markers for that here. They would include emphasizing the repetition so that the narrator is obviously aware of it or linking the repetition to some thematic element you've been carrying through the story.

>Goodbye Mommy//
Comma for direct address.

>Diamond Tiara was trembling again//
A lot of your verbs around here have a "to be" auxiliary on them. It's really not necessary, and it diminishes the action to do so.

>and steady her//
The syntax is off here. There are a few ways to change it so it makes sense, but it depends on exactly what you want it to say.

Overall, this was well done. It should be obvious what the consistent problems were by now, but there's nothing fundamentally wrong here, so that really minimizes the amount of work it'd take to fix it up. Just pay attention to the few mechanical and repetition issues I had to keep bringing up, watch the telling at key moments, and consider dialing back some of the melodramatic moments. I also wonder if you wouldn't consider revisiting Silver Spoon's character some. DT appreciates that AB is able to see that there's more to her than she might put out there for the public to see. Maybe now she'd realize that the same could be true of SS? Especially since canon makes DT out to be more of the ringleader, SS wouldn't necessarily be resistant. I mean, you could go full-bore and show all that happening, but it wouldn't be necessary. Just having her admit the possibility and deciding to give it a try would leave another nice optimistic note. Up to you, though.

This is definitely headed in the right direction, and I think you're on the short track to being posted. Please resubmit when you're ready.
>> No. 130951
>>130946
The use of passive voice and similar sentence structure was mostly intentional, though it looks like I overdid it. Twilight is an extremely passive character, and I wanted to get that across without bloating the story with lots of boring minutia.

The description of the spell is a trickier issue--the first draft (and second) gave the spell only the barest of description (a title along the lines of "Obscurity spell" or "Freedom spell" and nothing else). I thought the ambiguity of it gave the reader more room to interpret its effects (and thus the themes of the story). An editor felt that it did the opposite, however; that the unclear mechanics of the spell made the rest of the story harder to invest in.

It seems I may have gone too far in the other direction and made it too explicit (especially the part about it wearing off).

If you have any specific recommendation, I would of course be happy to hear it. Even if not, thanks for your advice so far :)

cp
>> No. 130954
>>130946
>>130951
Followup question: I've been try to go through the story and change it to have more active sentences. Most of the guides I consulted, however, pointed out that active sentences tend to have sentences that start with the subject.

Your critique pointed to both the overuse of passive voice AND an abundance of sentences starting with the subject as problems. Am I missing something, or is there some way to fix the former without causing the latter?

thanks,
cp
>> No. 130955
>>130954
Starting with the subject has little to do with passive voice. In fact, many passively voiced sentences start with the subject. Just strive to minimize times when the subject isn't the thing performing the action, as in "The book was placed on the table." As to other ways to begin sentences, there are many. A prepositional phrase, an absolute phrase. (Be careful with these:) A participial phrase, an adverb. In rare instances, a direct or indirect object, a predicate noun/pronoun, or a predicate adjective.
>> No. 130963
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>life - with //
Please use proper dashes. This is a recurring issue.

>weeks worth//
Missing apostrophe.

> loosing track of time//
Typo.

>and seeing the car is empty//
Participles should be set off with a comma. You do this in a number of places.

>As the train stops//
Most times, dependent clauses should also be set off with a comma. I also found multiple examples of this.

>"Why wasn't I informed of this last night," a familiar voice asks.//
So where's the question mark?

>Instead there is rubble//
Seems haphazard of him to cause structural damage to the castle, especially since this story isn't the type for exaggeration.

>purple tinged//
Hyphenate compound descriptors.

>Hangs, not in the manner of a picture, but in the way of a nail; not placed with care, but forcefully inserted.//
Semicolons really do call a formalism that needs proper sentence structure, so by having no independent clause afterward, it feels incongruous.

>certainly by mistake, I'm sure//
The "certainly" and "I'm sure" are pretty redundant.

>"The error was mine," I lift his face to meet mine.//
>I should be so fortunate," I turn to my brother.//
If you transition from speech to narration, that narration has to be a speaking action. You can'y just tack on any given action with a comma.

>"Now," I walk passed them to collect my bags.//
Same thing again, plus confusion between past and passed.

>little sister//
Another compound modifier that needs a hyphen.

>Of her castle, if I'm being pedantic.//
This is begging for emphasis on the "her."

>She raises an eyebrow in curiosity.//
These "in/of/with emotion/mood" phrases are almost always redundant with a description already in the sentence.

>would be//
Another hyphen needed. This is also a systemic issue, but one that can be tougher to ferret out on your own, so I've been pointing out most of them.

>I, I'm//
Commas aren't really for dramatic pauses or stutters. A dash, hyphen, or dash would work.

>food on her plates, picking up food//
Watch the close repetition of words.

>leaving the aforementioned brand//
This doesn't strike me as a phrasing that would naturally some up in conversation. She's not in a formal setting or giving a rehearsed speech, so it needs to sound off-the-cuff.

>she hesitates.//
First off, the capitalization pattern suggests a narrative aside, but then the sentence ends. And you don't need to tell me she hesitates when it's already apparent.

>it won't be any less stressful than the first one//
There really wasn't any evidence of stress. If you want we to feel like that discussion was an ordeal, then you need to make their emotions come through more clearly.

>all wrapped up//
Watch the close repetition of "wrap" from the previous paragraph.

>open air//
>once reasonable//
Hyphenate.

>I have to believe each team of planners and architects through history thought they would be the last to add to the city.//
Four of the last five sentences begin with "I." Mix it up a bit more. It's getting repetitive.

>There's waiting line leading to the throne room.//
Missing word.

>I could probably excuse my way passed//
More past/passed confusion. Looks like it's not just a one-time oversight. Learn the difference.

>"What are we waiting in line for,"//
It's a question, isn't it?

>well dressed//
>millennium old//
Hyphenate.

>O//
Why is this capitalized?

>"To what do we owe the pleasure of your most royal presence, Princess Twilight Sparkle,"//
Missing question mark again. This also appears to be a consistent problem.

>Ancient pegasi formal posture//
You're more or less using "pegasi" as a noun adjunct, so it should be singular. You wouldn't say "ancient pegasi history," for instance.

>now archaic//
Hyphenate.

>There is a place in the city for which I hold great affection; my home away from home.//
Another misused semicolon.

>sit by side//
Missing word.

>what appears to be astronomy notes and the exposed pages of several books//
"Appears" is referencing multiple things, so make it plural.

>'please don't worry. I'll take care of them.'//
>'the little miss said the same thing.//
>'sorry sonny//
>'you have to show proper respect to other ponies.'//
Capitalization. It doesn't matter that these are nested quotes. They're still dialogue.

>Speaking of which," I encase the book fort, minus the few open volumes Storm was napping on, in a pink hue. "Do you mind if I clean up?"//
This really seems like you're trying to do a narrative aside breaking a quote. Here's how:
Speaking of which—" I encase the book fort, minus the few open volumes Storm was napping on, in a pink hue "—do you mind if I clean up?"

>Now, little Storm//
Look how often these characters use direct address in this conversation. Then think about how often you do so in one of your everyday conversations.

>in ages passed//
Past.

>She's shaken still//
Pretty much the exact description given of her just a few paragraphs ago.

>dry eyed//
Hyphenate.

Twilight and Luna's conversation is also steeped in such flowery and rehearsed language that it loses a feel of spontaneity and authenticity. Grandstanding has its place, but you're running counter to the intimate atmosphere you're trying to create here. Even if it were justified as an extension of their word games, they're not in a playful mood.

>I was unsure how to react to this change, to this 'niece' my sister adopted.//
So how does she feel about Prince Blueblood? And presumably there are more.

>Regret waters Luna's eyes.//
How would Twilight know it was regret?

>thirty three point three percent//
Hyphenate. And see my previous point about Blueblood.

>"The use for knowledge such as yours is endless," I let slip an unsightly yawn.//
Again attaching a non-speaking action to dialogue.

>I slip out of my cloak, folding it neatly and placing it beside the table Celestia set up for us.//
Here's a common danger of participles: they signify concurrent action. So you have her removing the cloak at the same time she folds it and places it on the table. They'd logically occur in sequence, not simultaneously.

>She takes a long sip of tea, ever calm.//
First, you just described her as "ever calm" not long ago, and second, the placement in the sentence suggests that it's the tea that is ever calm here.

>But this" - I fluff my wings and tap my horn - "is different.//
Note the difference between the dash placement here and in the example I gave you earlier. This one suggests that the speaker doesn't stop for the action, which is probably not the case here.

>I drink deeply from my own//
Conversing over tea is a very common thing in fanfiction. Unfortunately, so is running out of ways to say that a character takes a drink. It gets repetitive quickly. Try to work on that or have them perform different actions than enjoying their tea.

>I drink deep from my tea again.//
Case in point.

>Celestia sips from her cup. Ever calm, ever patient.//
Same. And again with the "ever calm."

>I hadn't realized I was holding my breath//
This is an incredibly cliched thing.

>"Keep up the good work."//
Your call, but I feel like this loses much of its impact due to the lack of any kind of reaction from Twilight. It wouldn't have to be much, but she's learned several lessons already, and I have no indication that she comes away from this meeting with anything.
>> No. 130980
>>130963
I appreciate the time you spent combing through my work. It's great to see such detailed feedback. Thank you.

I'll post an in-depth reply once I've had time to edit and give your advice proper consideration.

Thanks again for the time and effort.
>> No. 131005
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>blue and white plumage, the former color covering her head and chest with a few blue streaks through it//
So her head and chest are blue with blue streaks? I don't get it...

>while the latter coating her forelegs and wings//
Verb form. I'll also say that since the narration takes Cranky's perspective, it's odd to get this detailed description of her appearance. He's seen her plenty of times before, so why is it catching his notice now?

>One already lost almost all of its leaves//
Verb tense.

>She jabbed him gently in the side, then turned around and walked to the other side of the room.//
Look how often you've already used this "He did one action, then another" structure.

>top class//
Hyphenate the compound modifier.

>wallpapered walls//
Just "papered" would do fine here and avoid the repetition.

>the one that has succumbed//
Typo/verb tense.

>Liz paused for a moment and turned to look at him//
>then noticed the papers half-obscured by the donkey's hooves on the desk//
Just pointing out these two as examples. The last time we saw her, she was behind him. But the story's keeping to his perspective. So how can he see her do either of these things?

>brown and yellow feathers on her head//
Did I miss something? At the beginning, you described her as having blue and white plumage on her head.

>still drying//
Needs a hyphen.

>expecting the donkey to either be offended, or to announce that the joke was over//
Why are you jumping to her perspective now? There can be justification for doing so, but i don't see it here. This isn't vital information, her could possibly interpret her as acting this way, and you don't stay in her head long enough to make the jump meaningful.

>her expression becoming a little more annoyed//
You're getting pretty telly through this part. Describe her in a way that I can figure out she's annoyed. Don't just tell me.

>He's not going to lose his mind on my watch... she thought.//
>
>Cranky noticed the odd look she was giving him.//
This is a very abrupt change of perspective back to him.

>an annoyed expression on her face//
Besides being the same as the last time you described her, it's another spot of telly language. Look for places where the emotions are important to the story, but your narrator just tells me outright what they are instead of implying them through actions and description.

>he stammered//
This is turning up a bit much as a speaking verb, and I've only seen a couple of instances of "said." There's a section on saidisms at the top of this thread that explains the rationale, but the short version is that you don't want your choice of seapking verbs to draw attention away from the speech itself.

>her tone half-sarcastic, but also showing genuine interest//
This is a big conclusion on his part. What might he see that gave him this impression? That's what you need to be writing. There's a longer explanation in the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>Her words didn't seem to just bounce off this time.//
This smacks of being back in her perspective, as I can't fathom what it would mean to him.

>Liz decided not to speak this time.//
This sentence is fine, as he could reasonably think this about her, but the rest of the paragraph has hopped back to her perspective. A lot of the narration for several paragraphs in both directions is pretty neutral, so it could be that you do want to go over to her here. At least you're not flipping back and forth, but you do occasionally need to remind the reader whose shoulder he's looking over, so sprinkle in the odd comment here and there to establish that.

>that he has lost//
Typo/verb tense.

>His smug expression//
He's described as such often enough that it's standing out to me as repetitive.

>Bastion suspected some kind of followup was left unsaid.//
And now you're cutting over to him?

You hyped up his decision to leave Ponyville as something important to his current life and mindset, and he teases Liz with that fact, yet we never get the slightest implication as to why he did. It leaves things feeling incomplete.

I usually go into more of a discussion at the end, but there's not much to say here. The problems are simply stated. The core of the writing was good, and Liz's character was well developed, but there's a bit of a disconnect between canon Cranky and this one, apparently brought about by his later time in Ponyville and decision to move away, but we never get any insight to that, so it's not consistent or explained. The writing itself can get repetitive at times, telly in inappropriate places, a bit too fancy with the speaking actions, and jumpy on perspective.
>> No. 131006
>>130963

This won't be quite a point-by-point reply, but rest assured all of your feedback has been noted and is being put to good use. I'm embarrassed to have made so many sloppy, amateur mistakes. I am an amateur, but that's no excuse. My hyphens, dashes, participles, and so forth are undergoing rigorous retraining.

>"Why wasn't I informed of this last night," a familiar voice asks.//
>So where's the question mark?
My prereader pointed this out elsewhere, but I failed to correct my mistake throughout. Again, sloppiness on my part.

>Instead there is rubble//
>Seems haphazard of him to cause structural damage to the castle, especially since this story isn't the type for exaggeration.
Shining's door pull was intended to be a quick reaction from a surprised and upset older brother. In hindsight, it seems like a radically violent reaction to a completely nonthreatening situation. I'll mellow it out.

>"The error was mine," I lift his face to meet mine.//
>I should be so fortunate," I turn to my brother.//
>If you transition from speech to narration, that narration has to be a speaking action. You can't just tack on any given action with a comma.
I feel like I should have known this, but I didn't. It's even in your introductory post! Thanks for pointing it out.

>O//
>Why is this capitalized?
Wiktionary [en.wiktionary.org] says the vocative particle 'O' should be capitalized. I can only pull a few lines from the Chicago Manual of Style's website, but it seems to agree as well.

>it won't be any less stressful than the first one//
>There really wasn't any evidence of stress. If you want we to feel like that discussion was an ordeal, then you need to make their emotions come through more clearly.
Other readers have made similar comments. I'll rethink my wording here.

>So how does she feel about Prince Blueblood? And presumably there are more.
To be honest, I forgot about Blueblood while writing. I've been thinking about him though, and I've decided he's not all that relevant to Luna's situation. Her relation to Blueblood (and whoever else claims to be descended from a royal line, I assume) is incredibly distant. He may technically be related, but he's not family in any meaningful sense.

Also, the context here deals pretty specifically with Luna and Cadance. Even Shining Armor is only mentioned in reference to his relationship with Cadance. The Blueblood angle is worth remembering, but I think he's too far of an outlier to bring up here.

>Twilight and Luna's conversation is also steeped in such flowery and rehearsed language that it loses a feel of spontaneity and authenticity. Grandstanding has its place, but you're running counter to the intimate atmosphere you're trying to create here. Even if it were justified as an extension of their word games, they're not in a playful mood.
I think I see what you mean. I'll loosen them up and see how it looks.

>Regret waters Luna's eyes.//
>How would Twilight know it was regret?
Woops. I dropped the narrator ball on that one.

>I slip out of my cloak, folding it neatly and placing it beside the table Celestia set up for us.//
>Here's a common danger of participles: they signify concurrent action. So you have her removing the cloak at the same time she folds it and places it on the table. They'd logically occur in sequence, not simultaneously.
Noted, fixed, and cataloged for future reference.

>Conversing over tea is a very common thing in fanfiction. Unfortunately, so is running out of ways to say that a character takes a drink. It gets repetitive quickly. Try to work on that or have them perform different actions than enjoying their tea.
I didn't think much of hitting the repetition so hard in a relatively short section. Poor choice on my part. I'll liven up the table and shift focus a bit.

>I hadn't realized I was holding my breath//
>This is an incredibly cliched thing.
Yes. Yes it is. More on this in a moment.

>"Keep up the good work."//
>Your call, but I feel like this loses much of its impact due to the lack of any kind of reaction from Twilight. It wouldn't have to be much, but she's learned several lessons already, and I have no indication that she comes away from this meeting with anything.
I rolled the dice on the last couple lines. They didn't feel right, but I wanted to see how the story felt with a plain and abrupt end. Turns out I don't much care for it. My original draft had Twilight give a final "And from my mentor, I learned [...]" line to bring the scene full circle. Proper closure feels much better. Now I know.



Would you believe that, once upon a time, I was an excellent English student? At the risk of repeating myself, I honestly appreciate all the feedback. I know a few self-styled (see, I'm learning) Grammar Nazis that wouldn't have called me out on my dash use or unsegregated participial phrases.

Storm is my first attempt at an original character with any sort of depth or history. If you have any comments about his execution as a character I'd be happy to hear them. Until then, back to editing.
>> No. 131007
>>131006
>Wiktionary says the vocative particle 'O' should be capitalized.
I wondered if that was the case, but I didn't go to look it up, so you win. This time...

>Proper closure feels much better.
It does, but proper closure can take many forms. I get what you were trying to do with the ending, and over-explaining it would definitely be worse than letting the reader invent Twilight's reaction. Something nice and subtle should do the trick here.

>Would you believe that, once upon a time, I was an excellent English student?
Actually, I would, because a lot of the finer points here are things too far in depth to cover in high school or the standard required college courses, which focus more on reading and formal writing than creative writing. I enjoyed the story, and I didn't have any complaints about the characters or plot needing significant rethinking, so the things that need fixing here are fortunately easy. This story is much better than the vast majority of what we get.

>Storm is my first attempt at an original character with any sort of depth or history.
I have to confess that it's been a long enough time since I read the story that I don't remember him. Don't take that as a strike against him. I just review so many that it's hard to remember details about any individual ones for more than a few days. However, I didn't point out any problems with him, so he must have seemed fine to me.
>> No. 131012
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

First off, I'll say that more mistakes are allowable in this type of format. A narrator shouldn't be misspelling words, for instance, but these are transcriptions of something a child has written, so it would understandably have some mistakes in it. I'll point out what I consider excessive, but it's certainly fine to leave some amount of these in to make it seem realistic, depending on your vision of her intellect and the care she took in writing.

Now to the review. Right off the bat, I'm put off by the use of italics. They're for making things stand out, which means there's a point where they become counterproductive. If everything stands out, then nothing does. They also get irritating to read in large amounts, like reading a story in all caps would be. For this reason, it's fine to put a letter in italics if it's reasonably short and an aberration from the bulk of the narration. Here, the letters are the entirety of the narration, so you don't need the italics to identify them as letters. The format already does that.

>“Doctor”//
Why is this capitalized?

>Dear Mommy,//
I realize it's acceptable to go without indenting the first paragraph of a story, but when there's another reson for doing so, like holding to the letter format, you should. Likewise, leave a blank line after the salutations. It makes them easier to read. Same deal with the closings, once you start using them.

>I made some new friends today. Apple Bloom and Sweetie Belle.//
In canon, Scootaloo already knew Sweetie Belle for some time before she met Apple Bloom.

>Dr. Frood says it will pass, but I don’t wanna sleep. //
She's inconsistent about setting dependent clauses off with a comma. I'm on the fence about whether she should be intermittent like this.

>It hurts.//
This is pretty mature of her to write. Without any sort of dates attached to the letters, I get no sense of how much time has passed, which is actually a pretty revelatory thing. Is she unrealistically blazing through the recovery process? Is it actually a year later, and the doctor is just saying she's making good progress to encourage her? You're kind of neglecting an avenue for providing a little additional meaning here.

>‘em//
Smart quotes always get leading apostrophes backward, and there's no reason to think Scootaloo would draw them this way. For that matter, you might forgo the fancy-style quotation marks altogether and go with simple ones closer to handwriting.

>It made me think of your last birthday.//
This is entirely a personal impression. I don't mean to second-guess your vision of the character, but I really expected that celebrating the birthday would really give her some mixed feelings, happy for the familiarity, but saddened by the more concrete reminder that her mother isn't there.

>‘cause//
Another backward apostrophe.

>Anyway I gotta go get ready for Diamond Tiara’s party.//
Presumably this is the canon one where she actually met Apple Bloom (unless you're banking on the odd scene in the pilot episode that showed them cowering together, but that one's pretty ambiguous, while "Call of the Cutie" is pretty explicit about it).

>I got to hear how Rainbow Dash got her cutie mark.//
Yeah, if you're going to adhere to canon like this, you need to do so consistently.

>‘em//
Just sweep through for these.

>Sweetie Belle has her sister, and her parents visit from Fillydelphia every so often//
That they made a point of leaving Sweetie Belle with Rarity in "Sisterhooves Social," yet she'd been attending school all along, seems to imply that they don't live far away and that Sweetie Belle lives with them. And yet she's often shown hanging around Carousel Boutique as if she lives there. I'd say canon's pretty hard to interpret as them living that far away, which would then make the point about where Sweetie Belle's actual residence is moot, since they'd all be near each other anyway.

>workin’//
>scarin’//
This is a speech affectation. I don't believe she'd actually write it like that. There are more instances than these.

>Don’t worry Mom//
At this point, I'm really noticing how often she uses direct address. It's just unnatural. It's obvious to whom she's writing, so it goes without saying. How often would you actually do that if you were writing a letter?

>She didn’t realize what she’d done or so she says. And I guess I can kind of believe her.//
This is actually coming across as very subdued. I'm not getting a very authentic vibe from it. I can see her hearing about it, running away, and writing everything down before the feeling fades. Kids fly off the handle quickly, and while I'd normally advocate a "less is more" approach, there are times where unchecked and extreme emotion can fit. She's very raw here, and she might threaten all manner of things, like going back to the orphanage or staying with the Apples. Now, you do go through something like this here, so good there, but Scoots just sounds awfully calm in how she writes it.

>This will be the last letter//
Here's another place where the time ambiguity is working against you. If this is a couple of days later, that's way too quick for Scootaloo to so completely get over the responsibility for her mother's death. If it's quite a bit later, then it changes the picture, but it'd also be nice to have Scoots increase that sense by referencing how difficult/long a process it was.

I enjoyed the story, and the few things I think it needs aren't particularly difficult to do. Especially since you've fit it to canon, there are a few spots where it needs to dovetail better. We also need a sense of time, either through dating the letters or from Scootaloo making references to how much time has elapsed. In some of those cases, I'd recommend even adding an intermediate letter, as the transitions get quite abrupt, but that's just a recommendation, not a requirement. Scootaloo comes across as somewhat emotionally repressed, which works fine early in the story, where she's pretty numb, but when she realizes the truth about Rainbow, the whole thing's downplayed so much that it loses much of the sense that it was a big deal. Take the part where Fluttershy agreed to keep Dash away. I'm just spitballing here, but say Shy told Scoot that Dash stopped by several times a day to ask how she was doing. Such a simple thing really speaks to Dash's emotional state. How Scootaloo receives that info could go multiple directions. You get the picture. The italics, too. They're... grating.

It's a nice angle that adds something new to the old "Dash adopts Scoot" cliche, and the letter format makes it even more unusual. You actually pulled off the letters convincingly, which so many writers can't do. So please fix this up. I'd like to see it on the blog. I realize a lot of the things I've said are pretty subjective. They really are what I think would make the story better, but I'm also pragmatic about what's not worth insisting on. If you want to discuss anything or ask questions, please do. And if/when you choose to resubmit, select the "back from Mars" option.
>> No. 131014
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>“once in a millennium show.”//
Quotes or dashes are used to group multi-word modifiers, so you'd typically see this as:
“once in a millennium” show.
or
once-in-a-millennium show.

>a dower expression//
dour

>charcoal grey//
This would be hyphenated, but you already used the full color not long ago. Just calling him gray is plenty. Based on the descriptions, it wouldn't be ambiguous.

>“It has only been an hour,” Soarin’ interrupted.//
Well, no, he really didn't interrupt. And why are they speaking so formally, without contractions?

>highest ranking//
Hyphenate

I'm scanning ahead, and Thunderlane continues this very formal-sounding speech intermittently throughout the story. He doesn't speak like this in canon.

>time. The last time I was here, I didn’t have such a great time//
Watch the word repetition. Three instances of "time" in just fourteen words.

>violist//
He can identify a viola, yet later on, he doesn't know any better than to call her instrument a fiddle?

>Ayup. Princess Luna’s glamour spells really do dah trick, huh? Can’t even recognize mahself in dah mirror.//
That accent is way overwritten. The reader already knows what he sounds like. Even if he didn't, a brief description of how he sounds in the narration and a little touch here and there in the dialogue would suffice. It's more about phrasing, expressions and word choice. You don't want to make his speech hard to read.

>strong smelling//
Hyphenate compound modifiers, unless it's a two-word phrasing beginning in an -ly adverb.

>She wore a scowl somewhere between bored and annoyed.//
You have the narrator bluntly name emotion quite often. To get the reader to connect with your characters, you have to use more finesse. There's an explanation in the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread. And "annoyed" is one you use frequently. It's getting repetitive.

>I could really feel it in my soul.//
This sounds like an obviously lame come-on. I'm surprised she falls for it, even if he's earnest about it.

>something I imagine every pegasi dreams of//
Number mismatch. Should be "pegasus."

And now Octavia is using very formal speech patterns. It's making everything sound wooden and rehearsed.

>Hoisting the great instrument onto her back, she trotted to the steps//
A danger of participles: they imply simultaneous action. She hoists the case onto her back at the same time she's trotting to the steps. It's more logical that she'd do these in sequence, not concurrently. And as much as he talked about being dragged there by Soarin', it never occurs to him again that Soarin's might wonder where he went or be mad that he left?

>she could not hide the clear strain her body was under//
The instrument's not that heavy, and besides, as an experienced musician, she'd be used to carrying it. My instrument feels heavy now because I rarely get it out, but it sure didn't back in school, when I was carrying it to and from home every day.

>her great strength//
And yet she has trouble carrying her instrument?

>placing the fake wall back into place//
Another example of word repetition.

>She hadn’t been able to enjoy the snacks served at the Gala since she had been busy playing.//
Your narrator's pretty consistently been in Thunderlane's head, so why do you switch to hers here? I won't get into the specifics of what works and why—it's covered at the top of this thread in the section about head hopping.

>A crystal tear rolled down Octavia’s cheek.//
The single tear is a very tired cliche.

>Could I maybe stay with you?//
This is incredibly sudden. She's been on the edge of disdain the whole time, and now she wants to go home with him? When you don't give a relationship enough context, you're basically making the reader invent his own reasons as to why he should care about it. Just throwing two characters together without exploring what makes them work as a couple isn't going to make a story stand out from countless others.

>The longer I’m lead on//
The past tense of "lead" is "led."

>quite-“//
Please use a proper dash, and note that dashes, among other things, can break smart quotes. They're backwards.

>fit quite snuggly//
snugly

>“OK Vinyl. I really hope to see you there.”
There's nothing going on besides the dialogue here. Keep in mind that half of a conversation is nonverbal. There's an explanation at the top of this thread in the section on talking heads.

Overall, this has a number of editing issues, both mechanical (word repetition, typos) and stylistic (telly language, frequent perspective shifts). One I'll point out in particular is the sheer number of "to be" verbs. They're inherently boring, as they describe something static, not active. It's impractical to remove them altogether, but it's not hard to keep them to a minimum. Of the easier ones to search on, I counted 279, which is about one every other sentence. That's how often something isn't happening.

On the storytelling side, this has very uneven action. There's the slow pacing at the beginning, then suddenly he likes her for no reason, then suddenly she drops her objections about him and asks him to stay the night. It lacks the context to characterize how they feel about each other and why, and it takes place over such a short time that it's difficult to pull that off, since they haven't even had long enough to sort it out for themselves. Then you have to get across that authenticity while still conveying confusion. It's not an easy road to go.

Incidentally, I see that a lot of these same issues were pointed out in a WRITE review you got over a year ago, and that you haven't addressed any of them. I guess it's possible that you did update some of the more abstract things, but I doubt it, given that you haven't corrected the few typos mentioned. Why not?
>> No. 131016
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>whomever had found it first//
"Whoever." It's the subject of the noun clause I've copied here.

>woah//
Why do the vast majority of fanfic writers spell this wrong? It's "whoa." Pleas do a ctrl-f to catch them in all chapters.

>bloody//
I won't call this a requirement, but it's really odd to see words that an American would't use, given that canon uses American English. It'd be like a Chinese author having a character use a local idiom. Yeah, it personalizes it for him, but the canon characters wouldn't say that except in a meta sense.

>the first-chair cellist//
You forgot the comma on the back end of the appositive.

>thrice damned//
Hyphenate compound modifiers.

>damn it Rocksteady//
Needs a comma for direct address.

>in shock//
These prepositional phrases that convey an attitude or emotion are almost always redundant with information already available. In this case, it actually isn't, but it's still better to get me to intuit the emotion from her behavior and appearance than to tell me outright. There's a more general discussion in the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>“Which was a miracle, believe me.”//
There's not much happening in this conversation outside of the dialogue. There are nonverbal ways of communicating, too, which often carry half of the meaning. There's a section about this under talking heads.

> Beneath them was some kind of chalk diagram//
You're using this "<descriptor> was" construction an awful lot early in chapter 2, which gets very repetitive. Not to mention that "to be" verbs are pretty boring to read, and you have 22 instances of "was" alone in the first screenful. You need to choose active verbs more often.

>“Yes, I suppose, but they said that Twilight Sparkle was in a hurry, and she’s the leader of the Element Bearers—”//
Another talking-heads conversation.

>Damn it, Newsworthy, we're not a damn tabloid!//
I don't believe for a moment that a news anchor would allow himself to swear on air like this.

>‘cause//
Smart quotes always get leading apostrophes backward. Please scan through for these.

>The sun shined//
"Shined" is the transitive form; it takes a direct object, like shoes or brass. You want "shone."

>mostly-harmless//
You don't need to hyphenate a two-word phrase beginning with an -ly adverb.

>an stallion//
Typo.

>his eyes shined//
shone

>My career is likely going to end today.//
This is starting to ring false. We've been given no reason to know why, other than a vague statement about throwing up on the conductor. She didn't do so on purpose, so I don't see how she'd think that'd make them fire her.

>“So,” White Streak said, as casually as if discussing the weather, “What do you think of Twilight Sparkle, hm?”//
When you pick dialogue back up again in the same sentence, don't capitalize the continuation, unless it's grammatically required to avoid something like a run-on sentence in the quote, in which case you shouldn't be continuing it anyway.

>“I think,” Octavia said, finally, “That she is a good person.//
Same deal. You get it right for other forms, but not this one. There are some examples in the section on dialogue capitalization and punctuation.

>What do you think she plans, Octavia?//
I really hope you end up playing this guy as a nut job, because I can't believe he'd be so forward about this to a stranger.

>thousands of years old//
Hyphenate all that. It's being used as a modifier.

>The same pony who Celestia raised//
Whom. Your call on whether Octavia knows that and would use it in this setting.

>far fetched//
far-fetched

>She’d seen the exhaustion on Twilight Sparkle’s face, and found a kinship in those eyes that were too tired for emotion.//
That's all one clause. You don't need the comma.

>On any other day, Octavia would have simply walked away.//
You've already said something very similar to this. It feels repetitive.

>tartarus//
It's a proper noun.

>bloody tosspot//
Yeah, these British-isms just sound weird coming from canon characters. Though I suppose we've never heard Octavia speak. Maybe she is British...

>you use them to craft//
Extraneous space.

>ping//
Sound effects are frowned upon in narration. Fortunately, this is a valid word as is. Just lose the italics.

>whatever pony delivered it//
Since it's a completed action in the past, use past perfect tense: had delivered.

>first chair//
Hyphenated, in this usage, and again a few paragraphs later.

>He reached out with a hoof, and stroked Octavia’s cheek.//
No comma.

Okay, you're dropping a lot of f-bombs here. It's reasonable that she'd want to do so, but keep in mind that we're trying to appeal to a general audience here, and this is going overboard.

>then made sure that the Cello case//
Why is that capitalized?

I'll also bring up the "to be" verbs again. In chapter 3, I didn't just count instances of "was," but any forms that are easy to search for unambiguously. You have 165, which is about one every other sentence. That's how often something isn't happening.

The vast majority of these things are pretty quick, minor details. I would have sent the story up for posting now and let you fix them in the couple of days it'd probably take for it to show up on the blog, but I can't be sure you'd get to the "to be" verbs in that amount of word count by then. And please find some way to tone down the language toward the end of chapter three. Like I said, it's not an issue of realism but of trying to keep things more PG-rated for the crowd we get.

When you're ready to resubmit, please select the "back from Mars" option.

By the way, note that Seth probably won't let you keep that "Slice of Life" tag, at least on Equestria Daily. He doesn't like it in conjunction with other tags and will usually remove it.

Last edited at Sun, Aug 31st, 2014 20:48

>> No. 131018
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>further, and further//
No need for that comma.

>A dull ringing sound reached her ears. She twitched her ear//
Watch the close repetition of "ear."

>”BEGONE!” She screamed.//
The opening smart quotes are backward, and the dialogue tag is incorrectly capitalized. There are examples at the top of this thread under the section on dialogue punctuation and capitalization.

>Queen Chrysalis stood from her sleeping position, and made her way over to the wall of her chambers where she had positioned a mirror.//
Also see the section on comma use with conjunctions.

>dirty looking//
Hyphenate compound descriptors.

>non existent//
One word.

>a sound that echoed across the spacious hallway and into the desolate hive tunnels for miles, not a single other sound//
Close repetition of "sound."

>“ I should trust//
Extraneous space.

>The unmoving figure did not respond.//
She saw two before, but now you've narrowed it down to focusing on one. Which one is it? Without saying so, it feels more like an oversight on the author's part.

>causing the precariously mounted weapon in the guard's hooves to fall to the floor, taking the guard's leg with it//
It can be a bit clunky to stack up like elements in a sentence, as in the two participial phrases here. It'd feel smoother if you just placed an "and" instead of the comma to make it a single compound phrase.

>long dead//
Hyphenate.

>through which sunlight shone through provided the only source of light//
That second "through" is redundant. And "light" is pretty repetitive with "sunlight."

>she spat the word love with a hint of hatred//
You can't just tack any given action onto speech. It has to be a speaking action, yet this one isn't phrased as such, since there's no grammatical function left for the speech to perform. This should be a separate sentence. And put "love" in quotes.

>now empty//
Hyphenate.

>Of...of course.//
The preferred formats for ellipses are... this ... this . . . or this. The exception is a leading ellipsis, which wouldn't have a space after it.

>“Or maybe, they cannot respond?” A sinister voice spoke behind Queen Chrysalis.//
Commas aren't for dramatic pauses. There's no grammatical reason to have one here. And dialogue tag capitalization again.

>The owner of the voice//
This is the fourth use of "voice" in just the last six sentences.

>Her gaze was not a kind one, not even an angry one. She looked tired. Bored, maybe.//
A lot of this just plants emotional impressions in my head instead of getting me to figure them out. It's much more engaging when I interpret the character's feelings from how she looks and acts, not from what the narrator bluntly says her feelings are. There's more info on this in the section on show versus tell.

>healthy looking//
Hyphenate. But again, this would carry so much more power if instead of just saying she looked healthy, you showed me what Chrysalis notices about her that leads her to this conclusion.

>so if you don’t mind//
Comma needed after the dependent clause.

>end this,//
Another comma that has no grammatical purpose.

>Surely this lovely ‘kingdom’ can take care of itself from now on, I hardly think they require your assistance anymore.//
Comma splice.

>the other Chrysalis spat out the title with spite.//
Capitalization.

>up!
It's preferred to italicize ! or ? when on an italicized word.

I'm pointing out a lot of the same issues by now. From here on, I'll only mark new issues, not additional instances of old ones.

>Chrysalis's//
You're inconsistent about whether you add that final "s." Either version is fine, but be consistent.

>Here here//
Hear, hear.

>your majesty//
Such an honorific would be capitalized.

>Very well then you filthy mutts,//
In the middle of a sentence, direct address takes commas on both sides.

>laid scattered//
Lay/lie confusion.

I admit to being intrigued by the ending. It's unclear whether the feather is just the quill (unlikely, since it had already been described as hitting the floor before she fell), something from a scavenging bird just waiting for her to die, or one from a newly arrived Princess Celestia. I suspect you want it to be ambiguous like this.

The story hangs together well. The only thing consistently wrong is that you need help with the editing. I've pointed out all the types of mistakes I saw, but not all the instances of such. Please find an individual or a review group, such as those in the Omnibus linked at the top of this page, who can help you iron this out. It's one I'd eventually like to see featured.
>> No. 131019
>>131018
Thank you for the review. I'll look over what you mentioned, fix it up and re-submit asap
>> No. 131020
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>A school is very much a place of distinct contrasts, I muse to myself as I tread slowly and quietly along the darkened halls of my School for Gifted Unicorns; the gentle golden glow of my horn-light the only real source of illumination to guide my steps.//
There's no independent clause after the semicolon, and one really does suggest a formalism of structure. I'd also recommend substituting another word or phrase for the first instance of "school" to avoid the repetition.

>Upcoming tests, all-too-rapidly approaching due dates on assignments; even the simple longing for the seemingly distant weekend, or, in some cases, that all-too-distant closing bell.//
Same deal with the semicolon, and those "all-too-" phrasings get repetitive. Maybe you meant them to be, but then you have to make it obvious by calling attention to it. You could bring in a third instance or make the narrator self-aware of the repetition by using a word like "again" somewhere, for example.

>The walls are lined with portraits, painted and photographed, of students, teachers, and principals that have come before; in some instances they are one in the same pony, their images separated by only the brief span of passing decades.//
You're having consistent problems with semicolons, so I wanted to point out one done right. If you replaced it with a period, both resulting sentences would be complete. The phrase is "one and the same."

>But, I do not leave//
It is rare for a comma after a conjunction to be used correctly. This one is not.

>born of equal parts frustration and exhaustion//
>practice born of dozens of lifetimes//
Coming just a few sentences apart, these are repetitive.

>access,” I pause to raise an eyebrow//
You can't just tack any given action to speech with a comma. It has to be a speaking action.

>The colour in her cheeks becomes more intense and she averts her gaze from mine.//
You do this in a number of places, too. Check out the section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread. There are exceptions for flow, particularly when you need to differentiate between the functions of multiple conjunctions, but for the most part, this is how they are handled.

>course work//
One word.

>Finding none, I see the resolve in her eyes waver and crumble.//
Dangling participle. "Finding none" is supposed to describe Twilight, but she doesn't appear in the sentence at all, much less in proximity to the participle. It explicitly describes Celestia here.

>It all started after I started//
Repetitive.

>six can//
Hyphenate the compound modifier.

>little filly’s room//
It's generally rendered in the plural, i.e., "little fillies' room."

>in focus//
Hyphenate.

>straight forward//
straightforward

>further - she//
Please use a proper dash.

>over-flowing//
overflowing

> questions,” the words bubbled out from among the stream of liquid unhappiness that overflows anew from whatever dam had been holding it in check whilst I read.//
Another non-speaking action attached to a quote with a comma. And at this point, I notice you went into past tense somewhere. I'm not scrolling back to find out, but why did you switch? There's no obvious stylistic reason, so if you intended there to be one, it's lost on me.

>She blinks rapidly//
Missing line break.

>I cut her short//
She ended on an ellipsis, which is trailing off, not getting cut off. If that's the effect you want, use a dash. And then the cutoff is obvious from the punctuation; you don't need to narrate it as well.

>- and night -//
Proper dashes, please.

>The expression on her face is truly heartwarming//
Then why don't I get to see it?

>general detritus of Twilight’s studying//
It was described with an almost identical phrasing when she first entered the room. Try to use something different.

>- and your ego -//
Dashes.

>with all traces of mirth removed//
More unusual words stand out when repeated, and you just used "mirth" in reference to Celestia.

>drawn out//
Hyphenate.

>You know me - busy, busy, busy!//
Dash.

The story itself is very cute and clever. I would love to see it on the blog. Really, the only issue is a number of really rankling mechanical problems, notably the aforementioned comma use with conjunctions, dash/hyphen use, and semicolons. That last one in particular was particularly vexing for a couple of reasons.

First, while there can be some leeway given for stylistic use, the semicolon suggests a formal structure and organization of thought that do not mesh well with misuse, so I would really encourage you not to use them with only sentence fragments on one side or the other. They really do need independent clauses on both sides, except where they're used in a superlist. A lot of the ones you have could be replaced by dashes.

Second, the sheer number of them serves to call attention to themselves as a writing tic. You want the reader paying attention to the story, events, characters, and flow, not the minutiae of the mechanics. Part of that is getting the mechanics right so the reader doesn't hit any speed bumps, and part of it is not doing something in the writing that stands out and draws attention to the black lines and dots on the page instead of the world in his head. In addition to the plenitude of semicolons, there was a tendency to stack up multiple ones in single sentences at times, which just ends up making the sentence feel choppy, again except for use in a superlist.
>> No. 131025
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Sometimes I don’t reckon time’s even passing at all.
>
>But I know it is. As the months pass//
Watch the close repetition of "pass."

>I’ve been doing it all myself//
Why in the world is she harvesting more than she needs for herself? And even if she did, I'd think she'd comment on how much of it goes to waste.

>Soon I was surrounding by the orange//
Verb form.

In chapter 1, you use "I" 57 times in only 855 words and 58 sentences. And 27 of those 58 sentences start with "I." The frequency of the word itself is not so much of an issue, since it's natural to use it so much in a first-person narration and she's the only character, but that's still pushing it. More to the point, "I" starts 27 of those sentences, just two shy of half. That makes or a pretty repetitive sentence structure.

>color spread out before me like somepony had spilled a paint can of every color//
Close repetition of "color."

>Our eyes met, and for a long moment, I couldn’t tear my eyes away.//
Close repetition of "eyes."

>“But—“//
Dashes can break smart quotes. Your closing qutoes are backward.

>real…what//
Leave a space after the ellipsis.

>When I was several yards from the front door//
Comma needed for the dependent clause.

>There’s somethin’ outside and it looks like it’s hurt pretty bad!//
Comma between the clauses.

>I was born here at Sweet Apple Acres and I’ve lived and worked here with Granny//
Comma between the clauses.

>Then she went on to destroy every last pony in Equestria.//
Seeing as they need ponies for their food source, how is this a viable strategy? And how is this even a feasible punishment? Mobilizing an entire nation and accepting whatever casualties may occur just to spite one changeling?

>replaced your memories with those of the Apple pony//
The changeling was assigned there, after all—she must have had some unsavory intent toward them originally. How id the Apples reconcile this with caring for her, and how or why would they keep it secret from any other ponies?

>“So all this happened—“//
Broken smart quotes again.

>the sky was the brightest of blues and sunshine streamed down from above//
Comma between the clauses.

>I opened a crate full of cider that had been distilled during the previous winter, and began to pack my saddlebags with the cold bottles.//
As a contrast, this is all one clause, so you don't need the comma.

Chapters 2 and 3 had improved, but in chapter 4, we're back to having an awful lot of sentences beginning with "I."

>I opened another bottle.//
Can changelings drink? It doesn't actually give them sustenance, but I guess that doesn't mean they can't. But what's she actually been eating all along?

>I unsuccessfully tried to shake it off, and headed downstairs for breakfast.//
Single clause, no comma.

>I went into town//
Third instance of "into town" in just five sentences.

>“Pinkie Pie!” I shouted, pounding on the door.//
All but one of your dialogue attributions in this chapter have this same structure: "Quote," she said, performing another action. I haven't gone back to recheck previous chapter for this, but it's likely a problem you carried throughout the story.

>I raced to the Carousel Boutique.//
You don't use "the" unless it's part of the official name, and then it'd be capitalized anyway. You use "the" for generic names. For instance, you go to the store, but you go to Wal-Mart.

>‘cause//
Smart quotes also get leading apostrophes backward. It happens again a little later.

>apparen’ly I ain’t a pony neither. I can’t go on like this! What’m I s’posed t’ do?//
Applejack wasn't that bad earlier in the story, but this is just too much. Her accent is overwritten. The reader knows how she sounds and will fill that in for you. Even if she were an OC, you only have to describe how she sounds once, and then the reader gets it. It's more about word choice and phrasing. You don't want to make her dialogue difficult to read.

>the soft fur of her chest. I could feel the beating of her heart and the gentle rise and fall of her chest//
Close repetition of "chest."

>Changeling-Dash looked at me, and then we both took off running.//
There's nothing to read from that look. Even if it's blank, that carries some meaning, but I'm getting nothing here.

>who looked at me and smiled//
At least I'm getting more of an indication of her mood here, but it's repetitive, coming just a few sentences later.

I see that you'd responded to the extinction of their food source in the comments for chapter 4, but this is a big enough thing that you can't just gloss it over. Too many authors choose AU as a way to do something different, but then expect readers to accept that at face value without attempting an explanation. If it's a different universe, I need to know how it works. If it branches off from canon, I need to know how we get there.

To address your points:
1 and 3: Chrysalis had stored up a reserve of love or just failed to realize what she was doing. Both of these just speak to a massive lack of planning, and yet her strategy here (and in "A Canterlot Wedding," for that matter), was very calculated and set into motion long in advance. The fact that she would then fail to see that she'd eliminated her food supply is in stark contradiction to that.
2: Changelings don't feed off of love in this universe. First, that's worldbuilding that we'd need to know. Second, why would it have taken the catalyst of a single desertion to set these events into motion? If she had the military might to wipe ponies out so easily, as well as a burning hatred of them, why wouldn't she have done so long ago? Or why bide her time for a sudden invasion? Why wouldn't she have conducted an ongoing campaign against them?

It's also curious that Applejack never questions Dash's decision to stay the night, especially since Dash had already expressed reservations about being missed from the Hive.

The emotions here are genuine—it's more that they blow by so quickly as to lose some of their power. Her emotional arc from thinking she's a pony to accepting she's a changeling takes multiple chapters, but her friendship with this other changeling deserves a little more meat to it. Even this other character—we don't get much of a sense of how much turmoil this is causing her. She cries a bit, but it's hard to read exactly what that means. Just some small default sadness, like she might have for an acquaintance's pet, or is this really tearing her up inside. Does she state matter-of-factly that she can't leave the Hive, or does she barely get it out, trying to convince herself as much as Applejack. Invest you climax with some real, solid emotional context all around, as you could have something here. Besides that and the suspension of disbelief regarding Chrysalis's strategy here, this is a good story.
>> No. 131026
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>egregiously-high//
Two-word phrases beginning with an -ly adverb don't use hyphens.

>Celestia deflated a little as she shifted to a more comfortable position on her chair, and buried her face in a hoof.//
That's all one clause; you don't need the comma.

>As the advisor made her leave//
"Took her leave," yes? Otherwise, it makes it sound like the advisor forced Celestia to leave.

>My burst channel is ten thousand vortices//
I have zero idea what this is supposed to mean. Is that a lot? Does it mean raw power? An ability to multitask? Without knowing it's meaningless filler.

>for princesses sakes//
That would be a possessive.

>“Shining always said he wished he had more unicorns that could learn more than a couple advanced spells.” Her voice cracked a little as she spoke, but she managed to be firm.//
The last female mentioned is Twilight's mther, so the presumption is that this all refers to her. I think you meant Twilight, though.

>Twilight Sparkle couldn’t help but glance across her parents’ kitchen//
>hoping Twilight Sparkle would see reason//
It's usually a good idea to keep your perspective consistent or make shifts in points of view smoothly. But here are two sentences in the same paragraph which are said from different perspectives. Only Twilight would know what she couldn't help doing, and only Velvet would know what she hoped, unless you couch one or both as the way another character perceives them. There's a more detailed explanation at the top of this thread in the section on head hopping.

>But, what’s done is done.//
It's rare that commas after conjunctions are correctly used. This one is not. Commas aren't for dramatic pauses.

>and eventually managed to convince them that she wasn’t actively committing suicide by enlisting//
Isn't this the real emotional high point of the chapter? Why are you glossing it over?

A word about "to be" verbs: boring. It's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what merely is. It's not practical to remove them altogether, but their use can be minimized. Of the easier forms to search on, I counted 51 in the first chapter alone, which is a rate of about one every other sentence. That's how often something doesn't happen. You need to choose more active verbs.

>Twilight gathered her magic, and magical energy lanced through the target, a little less than 3 inches away from the center.//
The use of "magic" and "magical" is fairly repetitive here, and please write out numbers that short.

>then asked for a few more shots with similar results//
As phrased, it sounds like he asked for similar results. A comma before "with" might fix it, but it still sounds a little off.

>the proctor remembered to close his jaw //
Jumpy perspectives again.

>He trotted over to an unused station, and brought over its weights.//
Another spot where you don't need the comma. There's also a section on comma use with conjunctions at the top of the thread.

>and laid down on the only bench//
Lay/lie confusion.

>“Cast a silencing spell on the gramophone.”//
Why go through the rigmarole of getting out a record player? Why not just have her silence him tapping a hoof on the table or another pony?

>so we now I know//
Jumbled wording.

>Twilight poured as much power as she could draw into her horn.//
Pretty repetitive with the description of what the proctor told her to do.

>“You are officially Private Twilight Sparkle in Their Majesties’ Royal Guard.”//
I guess I can't assume that this military would operate like Earth ones, but any recruit showing that kind of aptitude would immediately be sent to Officer Candidate School. In fact, as a graduate of the princesses' academy, she should have been routed that way by default.

>your majesty//
The honorific would be capitalized.

>less savory//
Hyphenate the compound modifier.

>but if they didn’t laugh, they risked the disfavor of the pony saying it//
I can't identify whose perspective this is. Luna's, in interpreting their actions somehow? The collective mind of that group? It's a little off-putting to winder where this is coming from.

>Perhaps I should try that more often.//
Isn't this in direct contradiction to her attitude at the beginning of the story?

>A bell above the door chimed pleasantly as Twilight walked into the shop.//
I'd encourage you to put another line break after the scene separators. It looks like an errant overstrike as is.

>Rarity’s sentence trailed off//
You don't need to narrate this. It's already apparent from the punctuation.

>not entirely sure what she was looking at//
Watch that perspective.

>jeweler’s loop//
loupe

>In fact, now that I think about it, I must insist that it be free of charge!//
This is so convenient as to be contrived. Going from 500 to "free, and I won't take no for an answer."

>you could provide my sister and myself//
Reflexive pronouns are for when the antecedent is the subject. "Me" is appropriate here.

>Twilight’s tried to think of something//
Typo.

>been enough//
>edges. The//
Extraneous spaces.

>head first//
headfirst

This battle scene is very... clinical. It's very factual but short on the emotions involved. While this might work if you had adopted an objective narration from the beginning, once you've set limited narration as a consistent tone, it ends up making this feel bland and disconnected from the characters experiencing it.

For example. take the part where Twilight feels the heat of the dragon's breath coming around her improvised rock shield. She's very businesslike and calmly starts planning out her next move. She doesn't wipe the sweat from her face, have second thoughts about the huge reptile towering over her, worry for the safety of that pegasus who's having trouble flying around the dragon. It's just fact after fact after fact. Pay attention to the rhythm as well. Most of the sentences around here are fairly long, with multiple pauses. You want to keep them clipped, fast-paced, and focused in order to maintain the feel of action. If she has time to "catch her breath and gather her thoughts," it really undercuts the sense that she's in any real danger. And if she's not in any real danger, well, she's setting off my Mary Sue detector.

>The pegasus gave a cocky grin wholly inappropriate to how much danger they were in.//
My point exactly. I get no sense of danger from the description.

>She took a nervous gulp, hoping the other mare didn’t notice.//
Now, we're finally getting somewhere.

>well placed//
Hyphen for the compound modifier.

>impa-//
Please use a proper dash.

>in embarrassment//
Read the section on show versus tell, too. Not that you have a widespread telling problem, but it discusses why this exact type of phrasing is extraneous.

>Rainbow thought about that for a moment as she sized up Twilight//
Why are you in Dash's head now? This could have easily been rendered from Twilight's perspective as she perceives Dash's behavior and interprets it.

>I-//
Use a dash.

>she opened them as glanced back at the document she’d been reviewing//
Missing word.

>Perspicacity//
Great googaly moogaly, that's a cumbersome name.

>I believe this should be the first order of business. I believe the article here speaks for itself.//
Repetitive starts to those sentences.

>tenant//
tenet

>form - a//
dash

>The longest she had ever seen one last was a few years, and that had been generations ago.//
You have twelve "to be" verbs in just the last two paragraphs. It makes the story feel like it's grinding to a halt. And looking ahead, five more in the next one.

>- a pegasus stallion with a red coat -//
Dashes. You get the picture. I'm not going to mark any more of these.

>probably would have claimed many more lives//
We didn't see it claim any...

>wrapped in the captain’s aura//
Participles are normally set off with a comma.

>do you have any ambitions towards an officer position?//
There we go. But realistically, her level of education would have already prompted this consideration from the beginning.

>trying to steer away from the melancholy quickly overtaking the room’s atmosphere//
How would Twilight know her intent?

>She kept the fact that she was being promoted quiet; she didn’t want to ruin Rainbow’s moment.//
This is a pretty low-key moment to end a chapter on. It doesn't wrap up a plot point or leave me with a cliffhanger. There's not any momentum carrying it into the next chapter.

Overall, this is a good story. It's got some problems with commas and dashes, which are easier to fix, and some problems with perspective and an abundance of "to be" verbs, which take a little more work. The fight scene could really use some more fleshing out with more of an emphasis on how Twilight feels while all of this is going on (without getting telly, of course), and pay attention to keep the sentence pacing commensurate with the action.

The two plot-based problems I have are by no means insurmountable. The whole business about Twilight's promotion isn't very plausible from an Earth-military standpoint, and the general assumption is that things in Equestria work like they do on Earth, absent any indication otherwise. So what to do? One path would be to make it compliant and come up with a reason why Twilight's still on combat duty. Maybe her paperwork to move into the officers' corps hasn't gone through yet. Maybe you rewrite her as actually having been a low-level officer already (second lieutenant or such) who has a few ponies under her command for this operation, and based on her success, she's getting bumped up higher. Or something else. There are several ways to play it in a viable manner.

Next, Rarity. I get that it's in her generous nature to offer to make the jewelry for free, but it's so forced. She immediately comes down to nothing from an opening offer of 500, then invites herself to tea with someone she's just met and couldn't possibly know whether she likes yet. Maybe she mulls over the price in her head at first but never names one because she's already decided to do it as a favor. She wants to pay tribute to a soldier, she recognizes Twilight's accent from a particular section of Canterlot, ... Really, it could be a lot of things, bt something that would reasonably prompt her to do this and without the abrupt change of heart from thinking of asking such a high price to start with.

They never even really fleshed out what would make it that price anyway. Twilight trusts this stranger to invent some design, no approval needed? They never discussed how ornate, what kind of metal, if there would be additional stones or enamel added, etc. Again, just brainstorming here, but if you really want to have a price named, then maybe Rarity goes on a about platinum and finials and whatnot, and then when given a number, Twilight starts asking about simpler designs, cheaper metals, smaller size, backing down further each time a number out of her budget is mentioned. And then Rarity must finally see something in Twilight's eyes, because her salespony's smile vanishes and changes to the kind an old friend might use before she tells Twilight not to worry, and she'll come up with something appropriate for a fair exchange.

Really, I want to be careful not to write the story for you or stifle your own creative process. I'm just throwing out some examples to get you thinking about how to get around these hurdles in a way that works.

It's an interesting AU you have going here, and I'd like to see it come back in good shape so I can post it.

Last edited at Mon, Sep 8th, 2014 21:08

>> No. 131029
>>131020
Greetings Pre-reader 63.546 (or shall I call you Copper? ;) )

First of all, thank you for your feedback. It is greatly appreciated.

I've reviewed and tidied up this story somewhat. My only excuse for the majority of these errors is due to most of my writing being done sometime around or after midnight, usually after a long day of work. That, and being too lazy/tired to edit it properly before submitting it.

The only point I'm taking exception to is:
> I'd also recommend substituting another word or phrase for the first instance of "school" to avoid the repetition.

Only because "school" is a noun, and "[Celestia's] School for Gifted Unicorns" is a proper noun.

I presume the next step is to resubmit the story through Equestria Daily? Or will you do a second "pre-read and feedback" prior to resubmission?

Kind regards,
The Ponytrician.
>> No. 131031
>>131029
Resubmit through the form, when you're ready, but if you have questions about specific passages. There's no need to look over the whole story as a precursor, since I'll be doing that anyway when it's in our queue again.
>> No. 131038
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Twilight Sparkle nodded, admiring the precise parabolic arc the horseshoe made as it traveled through the air toward the metal stake at the other end of the pit.//
This sentence might do fine in the middle of the story, but as your opener, it winds around a bit too much. You want to establish something simple and clear, even if it might ramble a bit, but it should at least have a consistent focus. Here, we start on Twilight, but the focus quickly shifts to the horseshoe and spends most of the sentence there. Twilight's more interesting; we're here for the characters, after all. I'd recommend splitting this into two sentences, so you can have a stronger, simpler hook on the character.

>She scooped up a shoe//
When you have a repeated action, it's often a good idea to acknowledge it or rephrase. Her, I'd recommend saying "another" shoe.

>Just throw the shoe//
>Twilight hurled the shoe into the air//
"The shoe" is getting used a lot. Here are two places where it'd have a clear antecedent, so you could just say "it."

>Applejack bit the inside of her cheek to keep her giggles under control.//
The previous paragraph was the first one with a very definite perspective, but it was Twilight's. this has jumped into Applejack's viewpoint, though. It might be hard for her to even see Applejack do this, but it also isn't apparent how Twilight would know Applejack's motive.

>Poor Twi. She’s really tryin’.//
Skipping into AJ's perspective again. Is it even necessary for her to say this to herself? Twilight could easily read her attitude from her expression.

>So here’s the new rule: You can use your magic to throw the shoe, but you can’t just, you know, float it over there and whatnot.//
You typically only capitalize after a colon if what comes before it refers to multiple sentences.

>Twilight’s rear legs gave way and she sat down hard in the soft sand.//
Comma between the clauses.

>sweet voice//
The perspective's been wavering enough that I don't know whose opinion this is.

>sis//
When used as a title or substitute for a name, capitalize family members.

>Applejack scooped up Apple Bloom and rubbing her hoof playfully into her little sister’s head.//
Verb tense.

>Apple Bloom’s eyes shined.//
"Shined" is the transitive past tense. It requires a direct object. You want "shone."

Okay, my impression after the first scene is that it was wholly unnecessary. All it does is get the characters to the farm, and I don't see why they couldn't just start there. That said, it does set a mood, and I'm more tolerant of mood-setting scenes than most are. I didn't mind it as a nice SoL moment to start things out, but you may well get readers wondering what the point was. Edit: now I see the significance of the "dragon's tail" here, but that's an awful long time to wait for a payoff to justify an entire scene, and a modest one at that.

>“You have to help me! I’m at my wit’s end!”//
You transition back and forth between dialogue and narration four times in this paragraph. While it's okay to do so once in a while, you generally want to limit that to twice. Consider whether this paragraph is so coherent that it couldn't stand being split into two.

>Cake from ripping out any more of her mane out.//
One of those "out" is extraneous.

>back into the bag and placed it back//
Repetitive wording.

>Twilight gently rubbed the baker's back in what she hoped was a soothing manner.//
You'd started the scene in Applejack's perspective, so why switch to Twilight here? Now, I will say that this isn't an objectively wrong thing to do. Various writing guides will show examples where the perspective jumps around, even within a single paragraph. It's not that it can't be done, but you really have to be aware of what effect you're creating by doing so. It tends to work better in longer stories (think novel length) where we'll have plenty of opportunity to get to know the characters, but in shorter works, you don't have as long to create that connection with the reader. It also tends to work better in comedy. The bottom line is that the only thing I can say objectively is that I find these frequent and sudden shifts to be jarring and preventing me from getting settled enough to identify with any of them. Whether that's a problem is up to you. Let's just leave it that there's a lot of this throughout the story. I won't mark it anymore.

>Mrs. Cake gulped down a few steadying breaths and tried to compose herself.//
Now there's a third viewpoint in the mix. It wouldn't be hard to recast this as another character's perception of Mrs. Cake's behavior.

>princess herself//
Extraneous space.

>“But I guess you’ve had a quiet week!”//
Another paragraph that jumps back and forth between narration and speech a lot. You could divide it into two paragraphs, reorganize it to group more of the dialogue together, maybe put one or two of the pieces of narration as asides.

>Mrs. Cake’s eyes began to fill again and her voice caught in her throat.//
Comma between the clauses.

>I can’t even lose one!//
It feels like she'd emphasize "one," either to the exclusion of the rest or above it, i.e., back to normal font or bold or all caps.

>While Mrs. Cake fetched a lace handkerchief from her packs,//
One handkerchief from multiple packs?

>Applejack daubed at the mare’s eyes.//
I think you meant "dabbed." "Daub" means she's applying something like makeup or paint.

>Twilight and Applejack both moved to comfort the baker as she collapsed into sobs.//
And this paragraph has five isolated pieces of dialogue. I'm not going to mark any more of these.

>We’ll get her outta the shop and y’all can have some peace while you whip up all them yummy treats.//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>All around them were reminders of the delicious baked goods that the confectioners were known for.//
This is so vague as to lose its significance. Give me an example or two. Twilight sees the cupcake that reminds her of the time she met X for lunch and the tart she had the day Y happened.

>got so much work to get done//
Repetitive. Just use "do" in place of "get done."

>The Cakes looked up in unison//
Fifth paragraph in a row that starts with a character's name. Little things like this can make the writing settle into a rut. This is also repetitive with the stomachs growling in unison a few paragraphs back.

>Applejack cupped Twilight’s ear with her hoof.//
It was in the previous scene, but it's still recent enough that it sticks in my head as something I just read.

>extra hard//
Hyphenate.

>BIG//
Italics are preferred as first-line emphasis.

>Twilight’s frowned and tapped her hoof on the kitchen’s well-worn floor for for a few moments.//
Typo.

>Twilight concentrated for a moment and shimmering, purple energy surrounded her horn, and then the baker’s rear door...
Comma between the clauses.

>furious with herself//
Get me to sense her mood, feel it with her. This doesn't carry much weight as a cold fact.

>emphasizing the last few words//
Anything I could have gotten from this is already conveyed by the fact that they're in italics.

>felt his knees grow suddenly weak//
I know I said I wouldn't mark any more, but... this would be so evident through his appearance. Why jump to his head for the grand total of half a sentence?

>muttering “//
Needs a comma.

>back to Applejack and back//
You don't need that first "back."

>Catching up, Twilight’s smile was a little too wide.//
Dangling participle. "Catching up" describes Twilight, but she doesn't appear in the sentence in a form that a participle can modify. You're explicitly saying that her smile catches up. While technically correct, it's just odd.

>Land’s sake//
Usually, it's "land sakes."

>of … well//
You don't always space your ellipses the same way. Be consistent.

>Fluttershy was sitting on her stoop, eyes locked on her front door and picking absently at a few blades of grass when her friends trotted up.//
For want of a comma... As written, her eyes are picking at the grass. If you put a comma after "door" to signal the end of the participle, it more implies that "picking" branches as a compound from "sitting," which is what you want.

>Landing, she moved to embrace her friend before pulling up short.//
You are a little heavy on participles, but not overwhelmingly so. Here, though, the synchronization is off. The participle means that she moves to embrace her friend at the same time she lands, but they'd more reasonably happen one after the other.

>she adjusting her hat//
Verb form.

>As she strained, the earthy tastes of iron and dirt filled her mouth. She grimaced and did her best to keep her tongue away from the metal. With a muffled growl, Applejack yanked again, and her muscles bunched visibly. Twilight couldn’t help sharing a wistful glance with Fluttershy. Both of them wondered what it would be like to have such strength.//
Switching perspectives in the same paragraph.

>Finally, Applejack collapsed back onto her haunches, sucking in huge lungfuls of air and shooting dirty looks at the horseshoe. It hadn’t budged at all. Fanning her herself with her hat, she turned to Twilight, motioning with her head back at the horseshoe.//
Just look at all those participles.

>Twilight’s magic aura surrounded the shoe and she focused as clearly as she could on the mental image of the horseshoe pulling free from the door.//
Comma needed between the clauses.

>underneath of//
Lose the "of."

>Applejack frowned. “Pitching.”//
This comes immediately after Twilight's speech is cut off, but it loses its feeling of immediacy if the narrator has time to wedge something else in there. What cuts her off needs to be the very next thing in the story. It's possible the frown is what does that, but if so, you need to say so, since it wouldn't be obvious.

>Twilight was trying to decided//
Verb form.

>Fluttershy hooves flew to her mouth.//
Needs a possessive.

>Twilight knew her friend would protect the woodland creatures with her life, if necessary.//
And she's not going to do anything to help?

>reveal revealed//
Extraneous word.

>rapid fire//
It's being used as a single-unit modifier, so hyphenate it.

>spun it their sockets//
Typo. This is also the same thing that happened to Twilight earlier. It's a little over the top, and a visual effect that doesn't translate too well into writing.

>The wyvern was almost out of sight and it would be a few minutes before they could possibly get all the way up the hill.//
Comma needed between the clauses.

>Pulling up short, their eyes widened when they both nearly ran headfirst into a tower of detritus.//
Besides being the third sentence in a row to open with a participle, this one's also a dangling one. It says their eyes pulled up short.

>She wasn't used long distance galloping//
Missing word, and "long-distance" needs to be hyphenated.

>I bet—Hey!//
It seems to me that you've consistently been capitalizing after a dash. Most reviewers will tell you never to. I think there are times when you can, but they have to be carefully considered. Still, the reader's unlikely to notice or realize the significance, so if you're going to do all of them the same, go with lower case.

>Twilight’s magic enveloped the door and she gripped it as firmly as she could.//
Comma between the clauses.

>she was let out a surprised cry//
Extraneous word.

>Now free itself//
Comma after the introductory element.

>where Applejack, slammed into it at full speed//
Extraneous comma.

>Fluttershy hit the ground and covering her eyes with her hooves.//
Verb form.

>Bumping along behind Applejack, Pinkie’s eyes widened.//
Another dangling participle.

>Scanning the scenery whizzing by, Pinkie looked over her shoulder at her friends//
Another case where a participle synchronizes two actions that really shouldn't be.

>she’d spied a crystalline statue of a pony glinted in the sunlight//
Verb form.

>they sheared off the end of Applejack’s tail and she rolled away//
Comma between the clauses.

>Boiling over with rage, the wyvern lashed out with its tail again and again, stinging anything within reach while it struggled to catch the more agile pony.//
That dragon's doing a lot of stinging. How much venom does it have? This is why a lot of venomous snakes dry bite when they're not hunting: venom takes energy to produce, and the snake can't afford to waste it when the bite itself will achieve the desired effect.

>She gave the statue one last, taunting shake//
These adjectives feel more hierarchical than coordinate. You don't need that comma.

>Applejack tucked her bangs back up under her hat//
I've never seen them do anything but hang out...

>mouth full//
mouthful

>ol'//
Seems odd to have the simple-style apostrophe here when you don't with other elisions. In fact, you used the fancier one earlier on the same word.

>faire//
You'd called it a festival all along. Why change now?

>Nevermind//
That's two words.

>it!"//
The quotation marks here are a different style than the rest of the story.

The problem here has never been the plot. It's a cute story. The only consistent problems I'm seeing are a really jumpy narrative viewpoint, a tendency to use lots and lots of participles, and paragraphs that go back and forth between narration and speech too much. Those aren't too hard to fix, though they can take a little time to root out.

Take this line:
Well, I reckon I needed a trim anyway, she thought

If she mutters this out loud instead, it doesn't necessitate going into her perspective. there are other times that you dip into other characters' perspectives as well, but that you could have just as easily narrated the external symptoms of what that character was feeling or thinking. That way, you can leave the conclusions up to the reader or a consistent perspective character. That said, you can use an omniscient narrator who can relate any character's thoughts, but even then, you still have to do smooth transitions between them and keep them from being too frequent. But when you have a narrator essentially speaking a character's thoughts for her, you lose that omniscience.

Here are a couple of examples:
>Fluttershy was circling what appeared to be a small dragon//
An omniscient narrator knows it's a dragon. The use of "appear" suggests a character's viewpoint.
>Or they tried to, at least.//
This strikes a conversational tone that takes on Twilight's thought process.

If you intended it to be omniscient, you could remove the few instances where the narrator takes such a tone. Even then, it's a good idea to keep from transferring the "camera" too abruptly or often. If, instead, you want a limited narration, then it could use a lot more of these conversational statements, like "Why would he do that?" versus "She wondered why he would do that."

I also don't quite understand what Mrs. Cake's problem is. Pinkie has nothing to do, so she's eating all the sugar, but today, she's only been staring at the door, and so is presumably not causing that problem anymore. So why is Mrs. Cake still upset? And why would she want them to do something about it? They do end up taking her on an adventure, but now that they're home again and Pinkie's no longer distracted by the door, she'll presumably go back to eating sugar. So wouldn't the Cakes be dismayed to have her back under the circumstances?
>> No. 131039
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>And yet, the books themselves were untouched.//
There's rarely a good reason to put a comma after a conjunction. They're not for dramatic pauses.

>At the far end of the passage, Princess of the Sun could hear chattering.//
Missing a "the."

>“Hello, Twilight,” Celestia mused.//
Not the best choice of speaking verb. It implies she's thoughtful about something, but what she actually says is mindless banter.

>amount of books//
"Amount" is for collective quantities. You want "number."

>Celestia sighed, taking a seat on the cushion across from her former student. She took several moments//
Watch the close repetition of taking/took.

>sister....//
Three dots in an ellipsis.

>She accepted the duty without reservation, and served all the races of Equestria as final judge of where a pony would be sent.//
You only need a comma with a conjunction if there's a new clause or if a compound structure is particularly complex or lengthy. This is all a single clause and a pretty simple one, too. There are a few basic examples at the top of this thread in the section on comma use with conjunctions.

>Why would she have forgotten her?//
>Twilight grew quiet, looking down at the book in her hooves with a new found reverence.//
That's a very abrupt change of perspective. Check out the section on head hopping at te top of this thread.

>Her eyes shined//
"Shined" is the transitive version—it requires a direct object. You want "shone."

>Serenity cared for all of Equestria's races equally, but she shared a special love for ponykind. Ponies were very interesting to the young Princess, as their lives were full of joy and color.//
This lacks any punch, as it's all very factual. Give me some evocative language some anecdotes, some emotional attachment from her. Then I'll identify with her.

>“Halt!” She called out.//
Just because the quote ended in something other than a comma doesn't mean you capitalize the speech tag that comes after it.

>before being carried upon to their final resting place//
What is that "upon" doing there?

>I present to you for judgment, the honorable pony//
No reason for that comma.

>Your name is fit for a king, dear pony. Step forward, and receive thy judgment.//
Why the inconsistent use of your/thy?

>But, you shouldn’t have! Please, let us reimburse you.//
That first comma is unnecessary. And who is saying this? Who in a charitable organization would have the resources to reimburse him for the purchase of an entire building?

>F-F-Foals//
Only capitalize the first one in a stutter.

>You shall forever pass into the Summer Lands, and know pain nevermore//
No comma.

>the creatures head//
Missing apostrophe.

>Two spindly arms//
You used this same description just a few paragraphs ago.

>who he murdered//
Whom.

>brother//
As a term of address, this would be capitalized.

>grabbing a hold//
Unless you're using dialect (which your narrator really shouldn't in this situation), it's just "grabbing hold."

>Generous Soul was never a bad pony. He had inside him the true light of goodness all along.//
This is pretty unjustified. It's just kind of hand-waved. How would she have such a change of attitude, and so quickly? How is this fair to any she'd previously sent to Tartarus? And if he's transformed by the compassion she shows for him, why wouldn't the same happen to Tirek?

>a tear slipping out of her eye//
The single tear is a highly cliched thing.

I pointed out many examples but not every instance of each problem. The biggest mechanical things should be obvious as the ones I pointed out more often. There was also the occasional instance of repetitive word choice or phrasing.

Watch your perspective. In a story this short, it;s generally advisable to keep to a small number of perspectives, but you jump around. Keep in mind which point of view the narrator is using and stay consistent with what that character could know or perceive.

The story's climax is pretty emotionally detached. It goes through the events of what happened but is pretty sparse about communicating how the characters feel about those events. This is particularly the case since you're using a subjective narrator. If it reads like a historical account, it loses its engaging qualities.

Your storytelling method is trying to pull double duty, and it's tough to make that work. It's framed as a diary entry, but then it's presented in flashback form. However the two are detached. The flashback presents the story essentially live, with detailed descriptions and quoted dialogue, things which wouldn't actually appear in a diary format. So it's sending mixed messages. The flashback even covers things that Celestia couldn't be aware of, even though she supposedly wrote the diary.

Lastly, what was Scorpan even doing there? It's incredibly convenient for him to show up right when he was needed. He never even hints that it's because he sensed something wrong or had been following Tirek. He just appears at the perfect time to save the day.
>> No. 131040
>>131038

I haven't completely gone through this yet, but I did want to go over why the first scene is important. In it, we establish the idea that Twilight's not fully in control of her magic, which will be on display when she yanks out the Cake's door. It also establishes the horseshoe game which how Twilight defeats the wyvern. Finally, the horseshoe that shows up later in Fluttershy's door is launched during the game between Twilight and Applejack.

Last edited at Mon, Sep 22nd, 2014 17:10

>> No. 131048
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>“Y-you’re not afraid. You’re not afraid. You’re Rainbow Dash."//
Inconsistent quotation mark style.

>Ding dong.//
It's preferred to keep sound effects out of narration.

>hold up//
holdup

>Rainbow tried to meet Scootaloo’s Mother//
"Mother" wouldn't be capitalized in this sense. If it's a title that precedes the name or it's used as the name, then yes, but in this usage, it's generic. Same deal with her father.

>“C-can I come in now?” she said, adding in a tiny voice, “Please don’t tell anypony I jumped...”//
You can't really stitch together two separate sentences of dialogue like this. I bet you can find examples in published fiction where they do, but it'd be highly unusual. It creates the feel that both pieces of dialogue form a single sentence, but they don't.

>The few minutes they’d known each other was//
Number mismatch.

>Scootaloo’s father sighed, and stood back to let her in.//
That's all one clause. No need to put the comma in there.

>Something... shifted//
Extraneous space.

>‘Cause//
Smart quotes always get leading apostrophes backward.

>don’t forget that can come home//
Missing word.

>a funny look//
How so? That's very vague. I have no way of deciphering the mother's thought process from this.

>Got a towel I can lend?//
Borrow, yes? Or do Brits use this backward?

>I promised I’d foalsit for you and that’s just what I’m gonna do.//
Opposite issue from before. There are two distinct subject-verb pairs here. There should be a comma between the clauses.

>the strange interior Scootaloo’s house//
Missing word.

>‘em//
Backward apostrophe.

>Scootaloo was fast asleep in a crib and she was tiny//
Needs a comma.

>Scoot’s here is my little trooper.//
Extraneous apostrophe.

>O.K.//
Spell it out as "okay."

>For as bad as she felt for little Scootaloo, Rainbow realised that she felt ten times worse for her mother.//
This is an awfully adult thing for her to realize with absolutely no preamble. I mean, it doesn't even occur to her to look at the wings. She immediately jumps to the conscientious attitude. That's pretty questionable for any eleven-year-old, and particularly one who shows as little tact as Dash. She's the one who's always blurting things out.

>sandy coloured//
>old fashioned//
Hyphenate the compound modifier.

>‘cos//
Backward apostrophe.

>as though she was//
For a hypothetical statement, use subjunctive mood: as though she were.

>‘em//
Just sweep for these. I'm not going to mark any more.

>It’s the only nice one I have and I haven’t worn it in almost a year.//
Needs a comma.

>looked at her with pride unending and love enormous//
This would carry a lot more weight if I had the slightest idea what it looked like. An emotional high point of the story isn't the time to be telly.

>Rainbow was here to be the most awesome foalsitter ever, she needed to focus.//
Comma splice.

>glared at her never blinking, never blinking,//
Is that repetition intentional? I'm not getting anything from it.

>there were so many that getting rid of them was impossible: so many different fears she had: the stress of trying to act older than she was; the worry that she wouldn’t be able to land her dream job on the weather team; the stark terror that other ponies wouldn’t think she was awesome, that would see right through her for the little phoney she was.//
Phony. This gets very clunky with the nested colons. Furthermore, in this limited narration it implies this as Dash's voice, yet I can't believe she thinks in a formal and structured way like this, mush less understanding the finer points of how to use a colon in the first place. You dno't want to lose the character's voice like this.

>Rainbow Dash shot up and the lights flickered wildly.//
Needs a comma.

>Pop.//
Again, watch the sound effects in narration. But this isolated word and the way the next sentence comes in doesn't do anything to create the feel of how this would have happened. Wouldn't it scare her? Both the sudden sound and the darkness? Yet her reaction is postponed until after all this is explained, and it's muted anyway, so it loses its immediacy and authenticity.

>with hot tears streaming down her face; with cheeks burning and nostrils clogged, and with the taste of something bitter upon her tongue, something unknown//
This really formal punctuation is losing the feel of Dash and of a child in general. Furthermore, the formalism of a semicolon doesn't really play well with sentence fragments.

>her parent’s bedroom//
She only has one?

>eleven year old//
Hyphenate all that.

>Cloudsdale.It//
Missing space. Why is she looking for such a circuitous route to Cloudsdale though? It's right near Ponyville. There wouldn't be a direct line?

>Money was running low but it would be enough.//
Needs a comma.

>Doing so would make her a sneak, of course, a wretch, a promise-breaker; but Cloudsdale was calling, and it's call couldn’t be ignored.//
Why wouldn't a comma do where you have a semicolon? You've also confused "it's" and "its."

>"Go.”//
This and the previous two lines have inconsistent quotation mark styles.

>the feel of the carpet against her hooves, rough and worn; the house smelled musty; the air tasted dank//
Unless they're part of a superlist, you really shouldn't be using more than one semicolon in a sentence.

>brawled//
She's in a fight? Or did you mean "bawled"?

>The foal wasn’t simply crying, she was far beyond that.//
Comma splice.

>rushing over to comfort the foal; but Scootaloo wouldn’t let Rainbow touch her//
Whenever you use both a semicolon and a conjunction, you should be asking yourself what the semicolon accomplishes that a comma wouldn't.

>run down//
Hyphenate.

>face caught halfway between terror and wonder, panic and curiosity//
Again, it'd mean a lot more if I got to see this.

>Then the light gave out plunging the two of them into darkness//
You'll normally set off a participle with a comma.

>For whomever had painted the stars//
Whoever. It's the subject of the clause "whoever had painted the stars."

>stars shined//
This is the transitive past tense. You want "shone."

>for although neither pony could know it, the lights were fuelled by love, and for months and months the long domant magic had been building and building and building: Rainbow Dash, without realizing it, had finally been the one to free it.//
Long-dormant. And this is incredibly blunt. Just let me see it happening. Show me the stars getting brighter and dimmer as they hug, pull away, whatever. A demonstration is much more powerful than heavy-handed exposition.

>You gonna fly//
Typo?

>herself –though//
Spacing.

This is a great story. It kind of gets undone by some punctuation choices that doesn't well reflect an eleven-year-old Dash, though, and it gets telly in a few wrong moments.
>> No. 131057
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>that that//
Repeated word.

>sighed contently//
Usually "contentedly."

>she could simply lay down//
Lay/lie confusion.

>sun finally peaked over the distant hills//
Peak/peek confusion.

>she would be made to bow in terror//
Note how much passive voice and how many "to be" verbs are already in this scene. They both bring the action to a screeching halt. You should be choosing more active verbs.

>with amusement//
Prepositional phrases that communicate a mood or emotion like this are almost always throwaway things. Show her acting amused; don't just tell me that she is.

>something- the//
Please use a proper dash.

>She stood stock still, eyes locked on the sky, filling steadily with confusion and a little unease.//
This is a turning point in the story and, as such, emotionally significant. Now's not the time to be telly. The modifier is also misplaced; It's seemingly the sky that is filling with confusion and unease.

>It's pale light//
Its/it's confusion.

>For several long moments she simply stood there, trying to still the nervous beating of her heart.//
Look how often you use participial phrases. I'm wading through quite a lot of them. They are a nicely descriptive element, but they're often abused by writers who are just starting to gain some experience and worry about variation of sentence structure. However, these more complex forms stand out much more easily, so they're easy to overuse. They also have their own attendant problems, but I'll point those out later if I see them. I have already noted one misplaced modifier.

>she began muttering "it's//
Missing comma and capitalization.

>shouted out "IT'S JUST A DREAM!"//
Missing comma, and italics are preferred for emphasis.

>her defiant expression softened into something that resembled shame//
Writing is much more powerful when you get me to deduce these emotions rather than bluntly informing me of them.

>thing.
>
>Those things//
Watch the repetition.

>and although it was a dream//
Needs a comma to set off the dependent clause.

>there's no point in-//
Use a dash.

>Releasing a breath that she hadn't realized she'd been holding//
This is a very cliched phrase. And, for that matter, the fourth participial phrase in this paragraph alone.

>this is MY dream place//
The way to emphasize something that's already in italics is to put it in normal font.

>"What will you do, sun worshiper"//
Missing the question mark.

>"Has your precious princess"-she turned right-"taught you ANYTHING"-she whipped around-"that can help you now?"//
Dashes.

>as though the bone was being injected with freezing acid//
For a hypothetical statement, use subjunctive mood: as though the bone were.

>I want the citizens of Equestria to see the sun for what it is; a garish thing that serves only to blind sight and sear flesh.//
Misused semicolon. There's no independent clause after it. You're defining/clarifying here, so a colon would work.

>and when it returned //
Comma for the dependent clause.

>By this point//
This kind of phrase is always a very self-aware thing for the narrator to say. It really only works well for a limited narrator, and while you're taking a mostly limited tone in the filly's perspective, this is rather detached from her point of view to work with it. It's dispassionate, while the filly is at an emotional high point.

>as though it were the most obviously thing//
Typo.

>taking a step forward//
You'll normally set of participles with commas.

>"I know that whatever you are, you won't even show your face. What kind of empress is afraid to show her face?"//
You already had Nightmare Moon speak in this paragraph. You need to start a new one to have the filly speak.

>Emboldened by the fact that she was getting under her tormentor's skin//
You're doing a lot of telling in this story, but this is closer to over-explaining. It's a lot more interesting when the reader can figure out this kind of thing on his own.

>Her taunting was cut off//
The cutoff needed a dash, but I've marked enough of those. Suffice it to say you need to replace a lot of hyphens with dashes. Here, though, we already know it was cut off from the punctuation. You don't need to reiterate it in the narration.

>as the face she'd seen so briefly before came into focus through the haze.//
Here's a related issue to all the participles: every sentence in this paragraph has an "as" clause.

>Run little filly, run.//
Direct address takes commas on both sides.

>grit//
The only accepted past tense is "gritted."

>; all were gone.//
Misused semicolon.

>Hot tears immediately began pouring down her cheeks as she dragged her abused body to her bed of ferns and collapsed, weeping with relief all the while. As the eastern sky gradually brightened, she sobbed and laughed in equal measure, letting the accumulated terror of the past several hours run down her snout before dripping onto the ground. She couldn't help but feel measurably lighter as the edge of the sun first peeked out from behind the mountains, and yet more joyful tears ran down her face as it took its rightful place, crowning the trees in front of her and wrapping her in the embrace of its light and warmth.//
Just look at this paragraph. Three sentences, four "as" clauses, and five participial phrases.

>With every step she took//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>cast down, never to cast//
>truly understand, it must be delivered by somepony she truly//
Watch the repetition.

>Prepare yourself my little filly//
Comma for direct address.

>Celestia's horn flared and the great doors to her bedroom sprang open.//
Comma between the clauses.

>Something ails thy student!//
You've got kind of a mix of speech here. Try to be consistent. "aileth"

>she requires//
requireth

>silver flecked//
Hyphenate the compound modifier.

>She stepped passed//
Passed/past confusion.

>Calm thyself Morning Glory//
Comma for direct address.

>You're safe now.//
Why is she slipping into a more modern and informal speech pattern here?

>Celestia asked "What//
Missing comma.

>There's no hope Princess.//
>There's no hope for you Princess.//
Comma for direct address.

>and if I try//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>she managed the breathe out//
Typo.

>she'd sooner mate with a hydra//
This is seriously out of place. Humor was the last thing this scene needed.

>and send for us//
Is she using "us" in the sense of the royal We? If so, capitalize it.

>"I wonder what the nobles would have thought of that? Such impropriety!"//
This comes out of left field. I don't buy it as a reasonable response for anyone there to make, and it's pretty transparently there to ratchet up the drama.

>buck themselves from the highest peak of Mount Unity//
See previous note about humor. Also, use of "buck" as profanity is highly cliched.

>"are you well Luna?"//
Capitalization and comma for direct address.

>and when they rose again//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>pleading 'No, no, no'.//
Missing comma, and the period goes inside the quotes.

>Her expression tightened, which Luna recognized as a sign that she was struggling not to cry.//
Again, over-explained and unsubtle.

>my students eyes//
Missing apostrophe.

>As much as she disliked Morning Glory//
Why bring this in now? What bearing does it have on the story? You can't just toss a Chekhov's Gun in there.

>she said 'The sun will fall'.//
Missing comma, period goes inside the quotes.

>but until she could explore it further//
>and if that is so//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>Celestia giving her a look a genuine worry//
Another example where you'd do better to let me see it than make me take your word for what the emotion was.

>Please be careful, sister.//
>Goodnight, sister.//
When used as a title, term of address, or substitute for a name, "Sister" gets capitalized.

>Goodnight Luna.//
Comma for direct address.

>Oh sister//
Capitalization and comma.

Okay, that ending wasn't really an ending. Everything's indeterminate. She wonders if she's losing control, but she doesn't come to a conclusion. Glory's fate is up in the air. At least you built up some tension, so this might slide, but it didn't go anywhere.

The biggest issues, then. There's quite a bit of telly language. It didn't start out that way, but it got worse as it went on. There's a discussion about it under "show versus tell" at the top of this thread.

There are a few issues with repetition of words, but most often, this came up as overuse of a few things: "as" clauses, participial phrases, and "to be" verbs. A word about that last one: These are inherently boring verbs. It's impractical to get rid of them entirely, but it's much more interesting to read about what happens, not what merely is. You need to choose more active verbs. Of the easier forms to search, I counted 219, which is almost one every other sentence. That's how often something doesn't happen. Even some of the events got repetitive in the dream world, as it felt like several moments ran together as rehashing the same things.

I estimate there are about 100 quotes in your story. Many are unattributed, but still, you only used "said" 8 times. I won't go into the explanation here; there's a discussion up top about that too, under "saidisms."

Lastly, I can't tell how old Morning Glory is. The reason it matters is that you use a fairly subjective narrator, and in that case, you want the narration to take on the relative intelligence level and mannerisms of the focus character. Yet the narration was pretty indistinguishable whether it was keeping with her, Celestia, or Luna. I can at least see Celestia and Luna being very similar, but when Morning Glory's narration was rather purple and had a lot of advanced word choice, it just didn't carry the feeling of a child, even one who may be intelligent. There's a limit to what you can do and still keep a childlike mood. Everyone else refers to her as a filly, after all, but the narration didn't match.

After all that, though, I will say that this was well-written. It didn't suffer from a huge variety of mechanical problems, mostly multiple instances of the same ones. Really, it's in better mechanical shape than most stories we see. Where it's not repetitive, in structure, the prose flows well, and the dream scenes built up tension nicely.
>> No. 131059
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

><Do it, Star.>//
This formatting is really ugly. The usual way to show dialogue that is different in some way is through italics. I'd encourage you to do so here, either with or without quotation marks. Actually, with quotes would work better, since you render her thoughts without them.

>She was first approached just over a year ago, and has been in training ever since.//
Verb tense in the second part. You also don't need that comma, since it's all a single clause, and not a particularly complex one at that. There are some guidelines on comma use with conjunctions at the top of this thread.

>Amethyst's horn was glowing in a raspberry aura, ready and willing to use her special brand of magic to cleave into the terrorist leader in front of her.//
The way this is worded attributes the "ready and willing" attitude to her horn, which is odd.

>I'm pretty sure the essay portion on your first test was over that//
A more usual phrasing would be "went over that" or "covered that."

>and although ordinarily she would also close her eyes in concentration//
This time, there are separate clauses, so it needs a comma. Read over the section on show versus tell, too. Not that you're being telly, but it explains why that "in concentration" phrase is extraneous. With nothing there, just closing her eyes doesn't do enough to get at her mood, though. There's a fine shade of meaning here, but I think you'd do fine replacing that with "to concentrate." This gets at her purpose without framing it as an emotion necessarily.

>So let me get the straight//
Typo.

><So let me get the straight,> the voice said, drawing out each syllable, <You're//
Also look at the section on dialogue punctuation and capitalization. The quick answer is that "you're" should be lower case, since it continues a sentence instead of starting one. And I think you meant "the" to be "this" or "that."

>lights flashed in that dark and dank basement and blinded Amethyst//
If lights flashed, it's not exactly dark and dank anymore, is it? Might want to put a "formerly" in here.

>blinded Amethyst. From what she could tell in that instant, the blinding//
Watch the close repetition of words or phrases.

>One in particular stood in front; not a griffon, but a pony.//
A semicolon really does suggest a formality of style that doesn't play well with sentence fragments. A colon would work, since you're clarifying. A dash would too.

>mint colored//
Hyphenate compound modifiers.

>coat covered the hooves//
Really?

>Amethyst ,//
Extraneous space.

>and as she raised her head to look the pony in the face//
Another dependent clause that needs a comma.

>with satisfaction//
Another example of this telly kind of phrase. You can do better than this.

>The two mares were now back in Ponies Protecting Ponies headquarters.//
There are far more elegant ways of demonstrating this than bluntly saying it. The description of the office, the nameplate on a door, the other characters around...

>the last genuine threat Equestria witnessed took place almost one thousand years ago//
Verb tense. It's a completed action in a past-tense narration, so use past perfect tense: had taken.

>"And we aim to keep it that way," Lyra Heartstrings would say whenever the topic was brought up. She wasn't the highest ranking member of the PPP, but her record on the field alone was enough to gain respect within the company. She was the first to approach Amethyst when the young pink mare was still working a humble stand in Canterlot's marketplace, and volunteered to both train and supervise the newcomer.//
This is a common problem, but one that needs addressing. Look at the sheer number of "to be" verbs here. These are boring verbs. Nothing happens. It simply is. It's much more interesting to read about what happens. You ought to be choosing more active verbs. It's impractical to purge them entirely, but you could reduce them a lot. You have five in this paragraph alone. In this chapter, of the easier forms to search, I count 123, which is about one every other sentence. That's how often something doesn't happen. It's a subtle thing, but active verbs give your story more of a sense of motion, even when there isn't motion happening, like "he sat there" versus "he was there."

>NEED//
Italics are preferred for emphasis.

>Even if he was an actual a terrorist?//
Extraneous word.

>this was the briefing room//
Blunt and boring. We'll already gather its function from what goes on to happen in there.

>but every time she did//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>Lyra came off as a bit harsh at times, but every time she did Amethyst could spot a smile underneath it all.//
I do want to point out this sentence. It's not an easy thing to keep a tight control on your narrator's perspective. Perspective can shift, of course, but it has to handled carefully. You've done a good job keeping in Star's head, though, couching other's emotions as her perception of them instead of just leaping into their points of view to inform the reader of such. I hope you continue to do so.

>Amethyst followed Lyra into the center of the console//
Just "to." Otherwise, that sounds rather uncomfortable.

>inquired an annoyed Amethyst .//
Extraneous space. And don't just say she's annoyed. Get me to figure out she is through her body language and actions.

>Amethyst couldn't tell if Lyra was being sarcastic, especially since she wasn't sure if the agency did have a detective division or not.//
This is really your call, but if you're going to keep with her perspective, there may not be much of an advantage to keeping the narrator external to her like this. A more subjective narrator can speak her thoughts for her. For instance: "Was Lyra being sarcastic? Did they even have a detective division?" This forges a closer emotional bond between the character and the reader instead of sounding dispassionately factual. It creates a more personal voice. If you're not comfortable writing narration in that fashion, though, what you have isn't wrong.

>purple unicorn//
It's getting a bit repetitive that you keep using this phrase, especially since her name's already been given. With Star as the focus character, if you wanted to show that she hadn't picked it up that well yet, a subjective narration again can take on her voice, if you choose: "Amethyst eyed the mare—Twilight... Sparkle—warily."

>in disbelief//
Again, there are better ways of showing this that just stating it.

>she started slow//
slowly

>Lyra shot Amethyst a look//
This is incredibly vague.

>asked Amethyst almost completely monotone//
Odd phrasing. The syntax is off here.

>perking up//
You'll normally set off a participle with a comma.

>the way they came//
Tense issue again. "Had come."

>Amethyst could feel the back of her neck heating up, and wasn't sure if she was supposed to say anything.//
All one clause. No comma.

>looked as though he as going to say something//
Typo.

>us?//
You'll normally italicize ! or ? when on an italicized word.

>When both mares opened their mouths//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>as though it was//
When making hypothetical statements, use subjunctive mood: as though it were.

>Two more mares — unicorns, in fact — disembarked and both the chariot and the stallions pulling it disappeared back into the clouds.//
Comma between the clauses.

>The mint-green one unicorn//
Extraneous word.

>blue and pink-striped//
Hyphenate all that.

>the green unicorn asked//
We know their names. You're going a bit overboard on the LUS here. In case you don't know what that is, there's a section up top about it.

>Carrot explained to the confused look on Amethyst's face//
She explained it to the look? That's a really odd phrasing.

>audible growl could be heard//
Is there another kind of growl? And if it's audible, isn't it redundant to say it "could be heard"?

>"That's a shame," said Lyra. "Sounds like you would have been more fun."//
Look how much of this conversation is structurally similar. Paragraph after paragraph goes "Speech," she said. ("Possibly more speech.") And those "she said" parts don't have the characters doing much more than speaking. Don't lose sight of the fact that they're actually doing things other than speaking. Half of a conversation is nonverbal anyway. There's a section on "talking heads" that will explain why ths is a bad thing.

>custom designed//
Hyphenate.

>brightly covered ribbons//
"Colored," yes?

>Now the streamers; pink or blue?//
Misused semicolon. This could be a colon, dash, or period, depending on what inflection you want.

>All right, ladies; pick a stall.//
Another misused semicolon. This one should just be a comma.

>girls room
girls'

>Yeah, but— That's not what— What if— But that doesn't— What?//
You'd either put a space on both sides of the dash or neither. And you don't really need to capitalize all those. There is a rationale for doing so, but honestly, it'd be lost on the vast majority of readers.

>hustle-and-bustle//
You don't need those hyphens. It's a compound noun, not a modifier.

>Canterlonian//
Typo.

>Bon Bon trailed off.//
Yes. I can tell from the ellipsis.

>Wait: are you about to tell me this thing cures the common cold?//
A colon is a really odd choice here. Why not just use a comma?

>cutting him off//
Again, already evident from the punctuation.

>A cheery, yet bored voice greeted them.//
You don't need that comma, but if you want it there, you need to pair it with one at the end of the aside.

>not the least bit amused//
Don't just tell me. Let me see it and judge for myself. Keep an eye out for places where your narrator bluntly tells me how a character feels. Is it an important moment in the story? Is it something you want the reader to identify with? Then show me. If it's a minor detail at a fleeting moment, then it's not so bad to tell.

>that when Princess Celestia formed this company//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>citizen that//
A citizen is a "who," not a "that."

>the sister that//
Same deal.

>one thousand-year-old//
Hyphenate all that, but it might sound more natural if you just dropped the "one."

>"Flattering," Lyra sneered.//
That's a facial expression, not a speaking action.

>The two unicorns looked at one another before back to Carrot Top//
Missing word.

>At the center of the mass was the unicorn renting out the space for the night, Twilight Sparkle, and the bouncing pink pony behind the party now taking place inside of it.//
That's pretty convoluted.

>She certainly does like meeting new ponies, doesn't she,//
That's a question, isn't it?

>fixated//
This doesn't mean the same thing as "fixed."

>I take it your Agent Doo?//
Your/you're confusion.

>The conversation was interrupted by the sound of a steam whistle nearby//
Then just have the whistle sound. Don't distance me from it by wedging a narrative comment in there. It undercuts the suddenness.

>eying the party guests warily//
You have to be careful placing participles. They like to modify the nearest prior object. Really this describes the staircase, but it's easy to rule that out. But the most recent viable object is Lyra. It's unclear whether you actually mean her or Star.

>VIP's//
You don't need the apostrophe.

>and being primarily an earth pony town at the time//
Comma to set off the absolute phrase.

>pegasi recruitment//
Noun adjuncts are singular.

>just one?" Amethyst looked up to see just one//
Watch the repetition.

>No; both//
You really use a lot of semicolons where they aren't warranted. And while your use of colons is mostly correct, you do it so often that they stand out as a writing tic. You don't want them drawing attention away from the story like that.

>This is an advantage; not a handicap.//
Misused semicolon.

>but before she could respond//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>Lyra's voice could be heard from the same direction//
I don't see the advantage of putting this in passive voice.

>Lyra gave Derpy a look//
That's incredibly vague. It could mean almost anything.

>Look, I'm going to check in with HQ; stepping outside for a bit.//
Misused semicolon.

>I'm sure once we're all back at HQ and have Bon Bon breathing down our necks //
Comma for the dependent clause.

>Many games were played well into the night, and most of the refreshments were downed by some pony or another.//
More inexplicable passive voice.

>"I grew up in Canterlot, so, yes, of course," Amethyst laughed.//
This is why "laugh" often makes a poor speaking verb. It'd be hard to laugh all that, especially with the pauses.

>weeding out//
Hyphenate.

>Both ponies laughed.//
This is the third laugh in less than half a screen, and the first of those three had nearly the identical phrasing.

>to not//
I normally don't force writers to avoid split infinitives, but this kind is so easy to fix. Just reverse these words.

>so between that and the big security threat we may have//
Coma for the dependent clause. It took me a while even to parse this sentence as is. A comma will really help keep it organized.

>asked the white unicorn who decorated Town Hall//
It's in the story's past. Use past perfect tense.

>When the tiny dragon circled the ground with his foot//
Same. And I don't know what "circled the ground with his foot" means. Is he twisting it? Scuffing it around? Walking a lap?

>We can play again before you and Twilight go back to Canterlot; how does that sound?//
Another issue with all these colons and semicolons: It tends to make all these character voices run together. You want them to be more distinctive.

>The white unicorn looked to the pink party master, who also nodded.//
The LUS is really getting to me. In this case, Star already knows Pinkie's name. And why wouldn't their mission briefing have included Rarity and Spike?

>she'll say upstairs in bed//
"Stay," right?

>said the green unicorn//
And the LUS is especially rankling when Star, your focus character, definitely knows the names.

>birds' songs//
"Birdsong" would work better.

>addressing the crowd//
Redundant.

>Bon Bon's voice cut her off.//
That was already apparent.

>What?!" Lyra hissed. "And you picked me?!
When ! or ? is on an italicized word, you'll normally italicize it as well.

I'll also note the wavering perspective in this scene. Take this line:
>She could see both Bon Bon and the subject of her sentence clearly.//
Only Carrot Top knows this, so she holds the perspective. Then just a few sentences later:
>a look of pure childlike wonder was plastered across the pony's face//
I actually can't tell whether this refers to Star or Lyra, but this has switched to the perspective of whoever is observing the other here.
>Amethyst couldn't help but feel bad for her partner//
And now we're in Star's head. There are times a shifting perspective can work, but it's going to be especially confusing here where I already have a lot of characters to keep track of. It also keeps me from getting settled with any one character and identifying with her. Since Star is the new girl, and the story's as much about her learning the ropes as going over these security missions, you'd probably do better by staying in her perspective, except where you want to get into scenes where she's not present.
>Bon Bon turned to glare at Lyra, only to see that she was already a few paces back. She wasn't returning any looks; instead, Lyra looked far too thrilled about what was being said on stage.//
And now we're in Bon Bon's head.
>Amethyst watched the encounter from afar, and couldn't help but chuckle to herself.//
Very next sentence, and back to Star. That comma can go, by the way; this is all one clause.

>close Twilight was to all of them, but before she could ask if they were close//
Repetition.

>and when she looked back to Twilight//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>the studious pony saw//
Verb tense.

>THIS//
Italics are preferred over all caps.

>Horns blared and a curtain was pulled at the front balcony//
Comma between the clauses, and why the passive voice?

>the unicorn who pulled the curtain//
Verb tense.

>the citizens Ponyville//
Missing word.

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>but given the pony didn't know the town very well//
Comma for the dependent clause. I'll continue pointing these out, since it can be a tough rule to have sink in, but there's a section at the top of this thread (comma use with conjunctions) that gives the basics. The point is to have you learn the rule on your own so that you'll get it right in any future chapters I don't see now.

>off-guard//
No hyphen

>The key is to be panicking at the front; helps you steer the mob//
There's an implied independent clause after the semicolon, but using it in the first place pretty much denotes a formalism that wouldn't skimp. A lot of the semicolons you use would do fine as dashes or just separate sentences. There are 27 in this chapter alone. That's a lot.

>Ponyville's PPP headquarters felt even more unnaturally quiet after the calamity the ponies present just witnessed.//
There's an opinion here, but I can't tell whose it is. And here, nearly a page later:
>the look from an otherwise amiable mare took the unicorn aback//
Is the first indication I have of who holds the perspective. That needs to be established early and often. Put more subjective phrases through the narration to color it through a particular character's perception, or remove any such things and keep it all omniscient.

>sifted//
Typo.

>BANG//
It's preferred to keep sound effects out of narration. Just describe the sound.

>sugar cube//
This is typically rendered as one word for a term of endearment.

>assured Lyra//
This is a transitive verb; it requires a direct object, but that object is the person being assured, not the speech that does so. That's why it makes a poor speaking verb.

>Everfree forest//
"Forest" would be capitalized as well. I can't remember if you've made this error before, so scan for it.

>Our two other objectives are countering Nightmare Moon, and finding Princess Celestia.//
No reason for that comma.

>cutting Bon Bon off//
Redundant with the punctuation.

>"Bon Bon, I don't have to take orders from you," Carrot snarled.//
At this point, I'll say that the command structure is very nebulous to me. I've been able to roll with it, but different characters defer to each other in different scenes. I don't see any clear delineation of who outranks whom, or what the chain of command is, except that Star is the low pony on the totem pole and Doctor is more of an auxiliary team member. It'd help if the orders consistently came from one pony and flowed down through regular channels.

>fine!//
>Lyra!//
Italicize the !.

>The two mares were making their way into the infamous Everfree forest; one pony on the ground and one in the sky.//
There are far more elegant ways of getting this across.

>See, I just don't see//
Repetition.

>make sense out of two separate inputs coming in at the same time//
It's actually not so hard. Many modern military displays take advantage of this, and a lot of animals make do with it as well.

>Lyra's sentence was cut off//
Again, unnecessary. If also undermines the suddenness when the narrator has a change to say this. Just have her stumble. The reader can put together that it caused her to get interrupted.

>By this point//
Phrases like this make the narration aware of itself, and they hurt immersion.

>Lyra groaned and her horn stopped glowing.//
Comma between the clauses.

>Fhew//
Phew.

>but before she could respond//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>This is not much of a problem for a pegasus, but her unicorn partner looked rather alarmed at the fact.//
This is worded as if perceived by an outside observer, which doesn't really mesh with the perspective you've been striking.

>sifting//
Typo, or a really odd word choice.

>either of us want//
"Either" takes the number of the options it describes, which are both singular here. "either of us wants"

>the doctor trailed off//
Yes, I can see that.

>to acknowledge or thank//
Those are both transitive verbs. They need direct objects.

>as a few jumps were introduced into his step//
Awkward phrasing.

>a certain someone is in here is specifically targeting some of us ponies//
Extraneous word.

>Don't breath a word//
breathe

>died?//
Italicize the ?.

>Each time she spoke, the seconds preceding showed her snarl getting worse.//
This is a really awkward phrasing. It's also not helping that you're inverting the timeline. You phrase it as getting me in the mind of when she speaks, then you add an "oh, by the way, this actually happens first." It'd work better like "each time, before she spoke, her snarl intensified" or some such, to follow the chronology.

>"Yeah, but did you?" Bon Bon shot back.//
Why is she taking up his cause so vehemently? She has no personal attachment to him, and even he doesn't seem too broken up about it. I'm also not getting any signals from her that this is striking a nerve with her emotionally. It's all in her dialogue, and at least there's some commensurate body language, but none of it gets at why she feels this way.

>Sometimes when you're chief handler//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>If Bon Bon had been bothered by her recent conversation, she refused to show it.//
But... you're in her perspective. The narrator should know whether it bothered her. Unless you're going to adopt an omniscient viewpoint for the scene at least or the story as a whole, the narrator effectively is Bon Bon.

>Back at Ponyville HQ, Carrot Top turned a knob on the console in front of her and a stern-looking stallion blipped onto one of the hanging monitors.//
Why the abrupt change of focus character and location? This would probably warrant a scene break.

>and a stern-looking stallion blipped onto one of the hanging monitors//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>"Carrot Top, Ponyville PPP,",//
Extraneous comma.

>with very little charm//
You're putting it all on me to invent how this looks and sounds. That's your job.

>two fold//
twofold

>cutting her off//
Besides being redundant, this is happening enough that it's starting to get repetitive.

>Even though Bon Bon couldn't see it, Carrot Top could see//
I get what you're trying to say, but this is repetitive and seemingly contradictory. Personally, I'd replace that second one with "picture" or "envision."

>The rest of the director's sentence was cut off prematurely.//
Just do a search for "off" and look for places where it's used with some form of "cut" or "trail." It's rarely necessary to narrate these.

>...Thank you//
There's an interesting dynamic between these two, but it's kind of hard to ferret out. They alternately hate and like each other, and it hints at a lot of history, which is a good thing, but particularly since you take on a subjective narration a lot, it might help to have a couple of fleeting thoughts about what that history is. Just a suggestion.

>Amethyst and Doctor Hooves were approaching decrepit ruins//
I assume this means that they took a different route than Twilight did, since they didn't encounter the spooky trees or Steven Magnet. Given that Twilight knew where she wanted to go and is pretty fastidious about such things, it might warrant some explanation. I wouldn't change it, though, because you've got a good thing going here. Too many "episode rehash" stories just repeated the same plot even by event, and I really like that you're keeping to the periphery of things here and only intersecting with the episode plot intermittently. As such, it really is a new story being told.

>and his eyes looked upward as though he was looking for something and the act of doing so was causing him a small bit of pain//
This is pretty vague and goes on far too long for its relative importance to the sentence.

>in admission//
This is an empty phrase.

>The bridge snapped. Right in front of Amethyst, with the doctor only a few steps from safety, the ends of the bridge closest to her snapped//
Repetition. This could work, but you have to make it obvious that the repetition is intentional by repeating it even more or having the narrator call attention to it, like using "actually snapped" the second time.

>curious as to just how much time the body they were attached to had left//
I don't see the need or advantage to go into his perspective here.

>The doctor's front hooves still took a few grabs at nothing while the stallion slowly rose upwards. In mere moments he was settled safely at his pink friend's side.//
And I get no reasonable reaction from him about this. He thought he was about to plummet to his death, and he can't manage any more than mild curiosity?

>admitted//
You use this an awful lot.

>Canterlot orchestra//
If that's the proper name, it would all be capitalized, and if not, she'd be familiar enough with it to use the real one.

>Lyra reminded//
Transitive verb needs a direct object.

>'Good job, sport, you're really getting the hang of this'.//
Period inside the quotes.

>and before I can stop her//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>Several trees and rocks were hurdled before Lyra spoke again.//
There's no reason for passive voice here. For one, it brings the action to a halt, and for another, it shifts focus from the characters to the rocks, and they're not important.

>but considering Lyra wasn't looking//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>"Wow. Doo. Phrasing."//
But... she said it first. Why would she pick on Derpy for repeating it? I get that you might be trying to make an Archer joke here, but pop culture references aren't the best idea, except maybe when they directly tie in with a crossover.

Your perspective in this scene is vague. This appears to be in Lyra's, since it speaks to what she can hear, even though Derpy or an omniscient narrator would know exactly what the sound was:
>After a slapping sound she looked behind her to see that Derpy had covered her mouth with her front hooves, and both eyes were staring at her widely.//
Yet this is in Derpy's perspective, since Lyra's turned around and wouldn't be able to see it:
>Derpy shook her head and continued flying behind the green unicorn, one eye on her back and the other on a party of six ponies giggling in a nearby clearing.//

>and when she did//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>That I don't care. Fact is, I do, and a lot more than I care to admit//
Repetition.

>Bon Bon observed confused.//
You'll normally set off a participle with a comma.

>crystalline//
I'm baffled by this word choice. It parses as an adverb, but the sentence structure suggests a noun. I would have expected "crystals" here, so I'm not sure what you were going for.

>removed the saddlebag from his back and began removing//
Repetition.

>Nightmare Moon has not yet arrived here, or surely she would have taken them and left to search for the sixth//
Okay, at the risk of this comment becoming obsolete, pending how the rest of this chapter plays out, how do you explain 1) that Luna and thus Nightmare Moon would know the crystals meant nothing and 2) that it was necessary to return the crystals to the tree at the beginning of season 5?

>not from anger, nor from pity; she wasn't sure why her body was carrying out the motion.//
Then what am I supposed to get from it?

>he added as an afterthought.//
You might want to separate his speech. This implies that the entire quoted passage was an afterthough, not just the last sentence.

>Hooves pointed to a circular funnel-like panel and Amethyst nodded.//
Comma between the clauses.

>She stamped the ground and lighting cracked in its wake.//
Comma between the clauses.

>take no pleasure in taking//
Repetitive.

>After a short puff from her nose, Nightmare Moon's ear//
There's a disconnect here. The introductory phrase describes Nightmare Moon, but then the rest of the sentence sounds like it was her ear that puffed from her nose.

Okay, there are obviously some problems here, but I really like this story and hope to see it return in good shape so I can post it to the blog. The main issues to me are the inconsistent perspective and the way the abundance of semicolons both calls attention to itself as a writing tick and serves to unify all the character perspectives instead of letting them feel distinctive and unique. It gets a little telly at inopportune times, the narration of cutting off or trailing off is wholly unnecessary, and the formatting of the comm traffic is awful. Try to cut back on the "to be" verbs as well.

There were other things, too, but they should be evident. Basically, if I had to bring up a point multiple times, it's something that needs attention.
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Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Even if the groaning wood didn’t wake her up//
>The first time she saw him knock an apple out of a tree//
Needs a comma for the dependent clause.

>Sorry Pa.//
>You mean it Pa?//
Comma for direct address.

>Why don’t you come on over here and I’ll show you.//
Comma between the clauses.

>Just take a look at this tree, tell me how many apples there are.//
Splice.

>stetson//
It's a proper noun.

>for…” Her face lit up “… are//
Either you're missing punctuation or you were trying to do a narrative aside. If the latter, here's how to do it:
for—” her face lit up “—are
if the speech stops for the action or:
for”—her face lit up—“are
if it doesn't.

>back at forth//
Typo.

>backing//
You generally want to avoid using all but the most mundane words multiple times so close together, and this doesn't come long after that "back and forth."

>lots ‘a//
Either lotsa or lots o'.

>This so great, I never have anyone to go with to these meetings.//
Splice. I'll alos say that this conversation is right on the verge of getting talking heads. There are a lot of quotes, but there's not much character action in between them to give me the nonverbal part of the conversation.

>I’m so glad they’re doing it in Ponyville, it’s brought in members from all over.//
Splice.

>obvious unease//
How so? Don't draw that conclusion for me. Let me see what Applejack does and make that judgment for myself.

>I suppose that’s why I entered the contest this year, it’s just…//
Splice.

>Good afternoon everypony//
Comma for direct address.

>The first row was completely packed and the second wasn’t far behind.//
Comma between the clauses.

>Once they found a pair of seats Applejack pulled her hat over her eyes and Twilight resumed her giddy pony-watching.//
Two commas needed here to separate clauses. Rather than give you page after page of comma issues, suffice it to say you need some editing help with those.

>against I//
me

>with a pony as yourself//
Seems like you're missing a word or two in there.

>two hundred and sixty seven//
Sixty-seven is hyphenated. I can get that maybe AJ hasn't been indoctrinated yet, but in scientific and mathematical circles, it's considered improper to use an "and" in numbers, except for improper fractions.

>forth//
forth/fourth confusion

>Applejack’s gentle giant of a Pa had been replaced with a monster; fiercer than a timberwolf and twice as big.//
Misused semicolon. There's no independent clause after it.

>all of the sudden//
The phrase is "all of a sudden."

>‘em//
Smart quotes always get leading apostrophes backward. There are several ways to force it in the right direction—use the alt-code, type two and erase the first, or paste one in.

>burn off a some steam//
Extraneous word.

>He coughed twice//
I'm going to make a pre-emptive strike here and say I really, really hope this isn't what results in his death, either this injury or some latter attack by the Carrots. That'd be needlessly maudlin, and it's more than a little ridiculous to have Applejack loving math but keeping it close to her chest because it got her dad killed.

>one hundred and forty-fourth annual//
Yeah, someone who's a math professor isn't going to put the "and" in there.

>is…” a hush fell over the audience “Maud Pie//
See previous comment about punctuating this as a narrative aside or making it separate sentences.

>a grey Earth Pony, clad in a simple blue dress//
Why are you describing her? The reader will certainly know what she looks like, and the characters who have held perspective so far already know her. So for whose benefit is this?

>she stared out at crowd//
Missing word.

>a link between elliptic curves and modular forms//
Okay, I have a math degree, and this means nothing to me, though it's admittedly been a long time. If this is just something made up to sound technical, I don't really care either way. But if this is for real, then... I guess I don't care, either, but that meaning will be lost on the vast majority of readers.

>now damp//
Hyphenate.

>and some fool part of me I thought he could give it to him//
Some jumbled wording in there.

>two thousand year old//
Hyphenate all that.

>“That’s some high praise for a farmer like me. I don’t have any degree, unless you count bucking apples.”//
So she was in tears a moment ago, now she gets some unexpectedly good news, and... I get precisely zero reaction from her at all? Just a couple of bland sentences of dialogue? This is an emotional high point of the story, and you have to sell it as such. How would this make her feel? Then translate that into how it would make her look and act. That said, it may take a little more to get at what is exactly revolutionary about this. By her dad's own description, it was just taking enough of a dataset to cover variations in all the relevant parameters. While it may be a subject nobody had applied it to before, it certainly was never described as a method different from what any other statistical model might employ. It seemed more that her dad was collecting data nobody had collected before, not developed an analytical technique that was new.

>I’d like to try your distribution against my work in rock farming.//
Okay... this might take some explanation as to how it would even be applicable to rock farming.

That's a pretty weak ending. All this stuff has just come to a head, and then it's vague as to what it all means. Open-endedness is fine, but you at least have to attach some emotional weight to what the alternative futures might be. Your various plotlines ask the following questions for me: What might Applejack want to work on in the future? Will she go to school for it? If so, what becomes of the farm, and if not, what will she do to apply what knowledge she does have in another way or try to teach herself more math? Will she be more open about her involvement, maybe join the local math club?

You don't have to answer all these, but you should set up that she's thinking through the options. Along those lines, it might be easier to cast this chapter in Applejack's viewpoint instead of Twilight's. This is a very personal moment for her, so I agree with the choice to cast it in a limited narration, and yet these big moments pass for her with precious little emotional cuing. The way I feel most cheated is in her friendship wih Twilight. She's really reached out here, an Applejack might either wholeheartedly embrace public acknowledgement of her talents, ask Twilight to let her take it slowly, or tell her thanks but no thanks. They all would have their emotional baggage, and even if she doesn't come to a conclusion, the thought process of considering her options would do a lot more to connect me to her. She doesn't really seem to come to much closure regarding her father, either. Aside from the consistent issues with commas the only other big problem here is the lack of emotional depth and lack of direction at the end, again not so much that a path isn't clearly defined, but that she doesn't even appear mindful of the situation. It's just kind of a pat, noncommittal closing.

I do like the idea of Applejack with this hidden talent, and the writing did have a nice flow to it.
>> No. 131068
>>131059
>>131060
Hi there,

As the writer of the story reviewed in the two posts listed, there are a few things I would like to say/ask about.

First off, I want to thank you for providing such an in-depth look at the weak points in my story. I know that's not exactly in your job description, so going the extra mile for me here is much appreciated. I truly can't put into words what it means to me.

With that said, I would like to respond to a few of your notes. Many of the simple changes you've suggested I've already made, and am rather embarrassed that they somehow slipped under the radar during my own reviews of each chapter.

Your very first note likewise concerns the very first line of the story:
><Do it, Star.>//
I can understand where the annotation here could be jarring, yet I've seen it used once or twice before in novels to convey something similar, namely communicating when not directly in person. Using regular quotes with the possibility of italics just doesn't care the same effect, in my personal opinion. However, I recognize that you're a greater authority on the matter here, so if this is something that you're adamant about I can look into it in later revisions.

You mention a large number of "to be" verbs, and I recognize where I could be better about that. That said, are they still unwelcome when in the past perfect progressive form? If so, is there a better way of getting that sort of message across?

LUS:
I've heard of this before, and am constantly afraid of falling into it. However, I also don't like repetition, and you made a few notes on such instances yourself. Is it okay to just say "Twilight said", "Twilight walked", "Twilight hated", etc. without any real variation in there? I really, truly want an honest opinion here on when it might be okay to not simply use a character's name all the time. Additionally, in the second chapter when the rest of the characters first meet, the perspective is supposed to be on the Ponyville party, meaning that not using the newcomers' names until they're said is something I intended. Later on I use it when referring to Twilight and her friends even after learning some of their names, and my intent there is to show a lack of familiarity between whose perspective we're in and the pony in question. I'll get more into your perspective notes in a bit.

"Talking heads" is something I can be bad about, at least in a first draft. I add more color as I go, but sometimes I feel like narrating too much of what's going on and who's doing what while they speak breaks the flow in the conversation. Any tips in that regard?

>Yeah, but— That's not what— What if— But that doesn't— What?//
This was a moment in which I wasn't sure what to do with the dash, I admit. It's my understanding that it should be attached to a word if that's where a sentence ends abruptly, and with a space if it's more like a side not. What I'm trying to convey here is a constant shifting from one question to the next without the mouth having enough time to convey they whole question, which is also why each word is capitalized after the dash: it's the start of a new question. You suggested either adding a space at the front of each dash or removing the one after, and lowercasing the following words: is what's best for what I'm trying to convey here?

>Canterlonian//
Is there a term for a citizen of Canterlot other than this? I more or less made it up, I think, and I'm not sure what you mean by there being a typo here.

>The two unicorns looked at one another before back to Carrot Top//
Similarly, I'm not sure what the missing word here is; I read the sentence out loud as slow as I could, and it still felt fine to me. I could be wrong though.

>The conversation was interrupted by the sound of a steam whistle nearby//
On this note you said, "Then just have the whistle sound," but later on at the word "BANG", you say, "It's preferred to keep sound effects out of narration." I'm a little confused; how would you describe these two scenarios?

I have a problem with semicolons. I recognize that. And I'm glad you pointed this out to me, or I may have gone on thinking that it was fine to use as many as I had. That said, at moments like "This is an advantage; not a handicap", what I'm trying to convey is that there is a sort of pause there: one that's too hard for a colon, but a period would make the part after not even a real sentence, and a dash just doesn't sit right with me. You can let me know if I just need to buck up and deal with something though. Thoughts?

Perspective is something I'm aware of but woefully went unchecked in this story. I can't say for sure why it fell to the wayside, but I'll be paying closer attention in future edits. Some of your notes come from constant shifts, particularly at the Summer Sun Celebration. Five of the main characters are here, each with their own view on what's occurring around them; would this scene be better suited to just all be from one perspective? I feel like it would lose something, especially since not all of the characters are right next to one another. Is there an elegant way to jump from one head to the next to get a collective understanding of what's happening in a scene? Is that even possible?

Twice I use the word "sifted", and twice you noted it as being either wrong or out-of-place. I'm trying to describe the way NMM's mist would move along the ground, or the way it kinds quickly seeps out of a surface (the word "seeps" obviously sounding a little... thick for what mist should be). Is there a better term I can use here?

You mentioned being confused at the command structure in the organization, which one pre-reader has also mentioned to me. I have to say I'm confused at this, as I though I spelled it out pretty clearly when Star and Lyra first arrived in Ponyville. Did things get better as the story went on at least?

>make sense out of two separate inputs coming in at the same time//
This is more about Lyra not wanting to believe Derpy is better than her in some regard rather than an actual statement on human (pony) capability.

You have some comments on Bon Bon and Carrot Top, and their attitudes towards one another and in general. These comments were made before they had a little heart-to-heart, so I'm curious to know if these notes were made after reading that passage, or if it cleared things up at all. If not, I'm willing to go into more detail on what I'm trying to get across with their words to one another, and hopefully find a better way to convey it.

>Amethyst and Doctor Hooves were approaching decrepit ruins//
I admit that I didn't really think too much about the fact that they would have taken a different path from Twilight. In my head I assume that Doctor Hooves knows a quicker path, since he's more familiar with the forest and Twilight only just arrived, but in hindsight I never explicitly say that. I'm trying to think of a good place where it could naturally come up, and wouldn't mind some input on the matter. Otherwise I'd hate to just wedge the bit of fact in there.

>He thought he was about to plummet to his death, and he can't manage any more than mild curiosity?
It's part of my characterization for Doctor Hooves. Essentially, nothing really gets him down unless something about his brother comes up. The idea here is that anything, even a near-death experience, anything that can get his mind off of his brother's passing is a reason for him to be happy. He's not quite right in the head and doesn't always react normally, and I think by now you may have seen that a bit. Is it simply not working here?

>"Wow. Doo. Phrasing."//
First off, it is a bit of an Archer reference, mostly due to the fact that a binge-watching of the show on a sick day led to this story getting written. The more I think on it though, the more it does feel out of place; I know that making references can take a reader outside of the experience, but somehow that bit of what the story was initially going to be stubbornly stayed around. The other part of having it there though is to highlight Lyra's mentality: she's not quite right either, as displayed by some of what she says to Derpy earlier in the section. In some moments she's serious and bossy, but others she's making inappropriate jokes. Once again, you can let me know if that's not coming across the best here.

>Nightmare Moon has not yet arrived here, or surely she would have taken them and left to search for the sixth//
>Okay, at the risk of this comment becoming obsolete, pending how the rest of this chapter plays out, how do you explain 1) that Luna and thus Nightmare Moon would know the crystals meant nothing and 2) that it was necessary to return the crystals to the tree at the beginning of season 5?
1) Luna/NMM believes the crystals are what the story says they are; was that not caught when Hooves is explaining the story at the start of the section?
2) This story is only meant to take place during the events of the season premiere. I've mulled over ideas for later episodes in the series as sequels to this story, but haven't solidified anything yet. In the end, regardless of what does and doesn't get written, it has an Alternate Universe tag for a reason.

To recap, I know that some of my biggest problems are maintaining perspective, an overuse of semicolons, and a need to be a bit more showy than telly (my last story was accused of being "purple"; I think that's left me hesitant to go into too much detail ever since). I plan on revising some of these earlier chapters alongside upcoming ones, where hopefully I can recognize some of these issues before their posting. I really do need to inquire further opinion on the comm formatting, as completely removing it from the story would prove to be a small hassle, and I feel like the story would lose that sense of knowing whether or not a conversation is happening face to face.

Again, I know this is above and beyond what you're meant to do as an EQD pre-reader, so I do highly appreciate your honest and plentiful feedback here. I know it's not your place to respond to all of the inquiries I have listed here either, so any kind of response would be similarly appreciated. Thank you so much!
>> No. 131069
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Unexpectedly, she receives a letter saying that her so called "rival" has tragically died and is requested to be at her funeral.//
The "and is requested to be at her funeral" part sounds like it's describing the "rival."

>Her parents had been there a few times for their anniversaries and they said it was always a joyful experience.//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>it took her sometime//
In this phrasing, you need a noun object, so "some time" has to be two words.

>lavishing//
Just "lavish." Maybe you were mixing it up with "ravishing"?

>upcoming city//
Upcoming how? Is she riding a train? Flying? Walking? Give me at least a little of how she's getting there and her surroundings.

>She had only spoken with the deceased a few times and they weren’t exactly good memories.//
Needs a comma. And they actually parted on pretty good terms after "Magic Duel." I don't know that I'd characterize it as "not exactly good."

>should you wish to retrieve the contents, but not attend the funeral//
That comma belongs at the beginning of this phrase.

>Final Passing//
Jeez, imagine growing up with that name...

>She tried to take over the town//
It's a completed action in the story's past, so use past perfect tense.

>to prove herself to be superior magician to Twilight Sparkle//
Missing word.

>but banish her and take over the town//
This doesn't quite parse. You sure that "but" isn't supposed to be a "not"? At this point, you're also doing more of an episode rehash than you need to. You can assume your readers are familiar with it.

>Princess Celestia taught her that everyone deserve a second chance//
This is a little contradictory. You just described Celestia as believing in them too, yet she makes Trixie agree to banishment from Ponyville.

>Snip//
Snips.

>or a book//
Well, why didn't she bring one? She should have known she'd have the opportunity to read on the trip. It warrants some explanation.

>if one of her friends came//
Needs past perfect tense. Seems like this might be a consistent problem. Since you're using past-tense narration, whenever you describe an action that happened at an earlier time, use past perfect.

>but nopony was really interested in going or was too busy//
As structured, this is contradictory. It says that nopony was interested or nopony was too busy. That latter isn't what you intended.

>She remembered the regret and pleading in her eyes for acceptance in her apology.//
This is really the emotional attachment that's driving Twilight to attend, so don't gloss over it like this. Let me see what it looked like and how it affected Twilight.

>and even now Twilight didn’t know how to feel about that//
Needs a comma for the dependent clause.

>and only twice had they ever met//
Same.

>; neither of which were under friendly circumstances//
Misused semicolon. There's no independent clause after it.

>and she tried to get revenge on her by resorting to dangerous magic//
Okay. There's a section at the top of this thread on comma use with conjunctions. Suffice it to say you need to comb through the story for these types of commas and for past perfect tense.

>so called//
Hyphenate most multi-word descriptors.

>glad that//
You sure you meant to italicize both words? It's an odd inflection.

>who they blamed//
Whom

>They wanted to both go//
Move "both" after "they."

>their parents forbid it//
Verb tense.

>Neither of them being big fans of Trixie themselves.//
You haven't been using a conversational style or fragments in the narration, so this really sticks out as something that doesn't fit.

>she saw the train stop at the station//
This has an external feel to it, yet she's on board. Give me some more concrete imagery here. Does she hear the brakes squeal, feel the car lurch when it stops, hear a conductor's whistle, etc.? There so much more you can do to bring this alive.

>Moving through a crowd, ponies//
Misplaced modifier. "Moving through a crowd" describes "ponies" by proximity, but you meant for it to describe Twilight.

>from behind the grave//
The usual phrasing is "beyond."

>Heading to the nearest cab she could find, Twilight told the driver//
Another danger of participial phrases: they make things happen at the same time, yet she wouldn't tell the driver anything until after she'd headed to the cab.

>that were made to look like the pearly gates themselves//
You'e not narrowing down the possibilities from a larger possible selection of gates, so it's a non-restrictive clause. Use "which," not "that," and put a comma before it.

>considering the building’s purpose//
You'll normally set off a participial phrase with a comma.

>; possibly relatives who once owned the home before passing it down//
Another misused semicolon. If you can't separate into two complete sentences at the semicolon, it isn't used right, and this piece can't stand on its own as a sentence.

>The most unnerving thing//
Here's the real thing holding this story back. There's little emotion attached to her actions, aside from what the narrator directly feeds me. If you want me to identify with her, concentrate on getting indirectly at how she feels. Where do her thoughts go as she glances around the room? What memories do they bring up? What physical sensations might her thoughts cause? How would someone else there be able to tell how she was feeling just by observing her, reading her body language, her expression, etc.?

>middle aged grey coated//
Hyphenate each modifier, and they're coordinate, so they need a comma: "middle-aged, grey-coated."

>as she was called//
Needs a comma.

>surprised as if he was checking to make sure she was actually real//
Same problem again. Don't draw the conclusion for me. Tell me how he looks and acts, and let me decide that he seems surprised. You have to think like a detective. Give me only the facts, and if you choose the right ones, they'll lead me to the conclusion you want.

>If you follow me please.//
Needs a comma before "please," and the phrasing is usually "you'll."

>she began to wonder what she was going to say and do now that she was finally here//
This is bland. Have her go ahead and wonder. Let m see her thoughts, either as indirect subjective narration or quoted direct thoughts.

>Would Trixie’s family be upset with her?//
There you go. That's what I was talking about. This supersedes the need to even have that phrase I commented on last in the story.

You're doing a lot of switching back and forth between directly quoting her thoughts and having the narrator state them for her. There are times it makes sense to do so, but they're the exception. If you're willing to have the narrator take on her voice, then there's really no need to do quoted thoughts.

>magicians outfit//
Missing apostrophe.

>nervous and confused//
More telly language. There's a more in-depth discussion in the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>lavishing//
Same issue as before.

>decorations around was//
Number mismatch.

>This is not//
Verb tense.

>overdoing it//
Hyphenate.

>even pictures of Trixie even//
Repetition.

>peaceful looking//
Hyphenate.

>stone cold//
Hyphenate. And why would it be cold? Room temperature is more likely. And how would Twiight even know? She hasn't touched Trixie.

>If she had know//
Typo.

>the closest thing Trixie has ever had for a friend//
Usually phrased as "to," not "for."

>But how else can one like The Great and Powerful Trixie survive as?//
What's that "as" doing there?

>She just wanted to prove to the world that a nopony like me could be a somepony like you.//
This is pretty much just rehashing what Twilight said about her earlier.

>Trixie... regrets that.//
It's rare for an ellipsis to work well in a letter. How often would you actually write one? It's a speech affectation, and not really a deliberate one, yet writing one is very deliberate.

>its because//
Its/it's confusion.

>who she had nothing but sympathy and respect for//
for whom

>I don’t think you were a bad mare, I think you were just lonely and wanted to be loved.//
Comma splice.

>Go into the afterlife knowing that your suffering is over and that you can rest knowing that one pony will never forget you.//
Repetition of "knowing" phrases.

>last rights//
Last rites. However, this implies some sort of religious ceremony, which is kind of hard to wedge in there without doing the world-building to support it.

>processes//
You sure that's the word choice you want?

>he accepted the money//
But she doesn't have money with her. She said she'd send it.

Really the two biggest things here are commas on the mechanical side and lack of an emotional connection on the aesthetic side, through the use of telly language and skimping on what Twilight feels about things.
>> No. 131070
>>131065
Author of said story here. Thank you so much for taking the time to write a detailed review, I really appreciate it and will attempt to correct all errors and resubmit in a day or two. Is there anything different about the process when I do so, besides checking the "this has been submitted before" box?
Before then I'll probably post another reply here regarding one item of feedback or another. Thanks again!
>> No. 131071
>>131069
thank you for the feedback. I'll fix what you suggested and send it again tomorrow.
>> No. 131073
>>131068
On the comm traffic formatting:
I personally don't like it, and I've seen it done effectively elsewhere without the need to resort to something like this, but it's certainly not unheard of, and it does create the effect you want it to. I'm not sure if you could get a book published looking like this, for example, but it's not a point I'm prepared to hold up your story over.

"To be" verbs:
There are times that using them is unavoidable. If you at least consider the alternatives and use them when you can, then it's a problem that usually solves itself. Auxiliary verbs do count toward this, and they're also unavoidable at times, but this is one usage that's often unnecessary. Given that most fiction is told in past tense, there's a very fine line between the meanings of "He did this action" and "He was doing this action." Most times that writers use the latter phrasing, they could have used the former without changing the meaning at all, and it's a more active construct to boot. There are times that the latter does imply something different, and then it's fine to use it, which is generally instances where it's important for some reason to make sure the reader knows that the action kept going on after the narrator's attention diverts elsewhere.

LUS:
There are certain things that can easily be repeated without drawing near as much attention. Things like "a," "the," "said," pronouns, and names go by largely unnoticed. So I wouldn't worry too much about overusing names, but there are times where LUS is justified. You do have some of those in your story, so I wasn't necessarily referring to every usage in the story. Where it makes sense is instances where a lot of characters are present, so that names do get overused and pronouns get ambiguous. If you find yourself having to repeat a name nearly every sentence to avoid being unclear, then LUS may be necessary. Another time is where the descriptor actually adds some new information we didn't already know about the character.

In your case, I could tell in places that you were trying to create a feel of the focus character's unfamiliarity with another character, but style helps a lot there, particularly since you use a more subjective narration. You could use the narration to your advantage to make the LUS feel natural, say:

Lyra watched the pink pony run outside.

versus:

Lyra watched-what was her name?-the pink pony run outside.

One's simply a narrative phrasing while the other creates an effect with it to make it sound natural and in the character's voice.

Talking heads:
There's not a lot in the way of advice to be had here. It mostly takes going back over your own work and thinking about it. Is there much in the way of narration beyond "he said"? Do you see huge patches of the screen contained in quotation marks without much in between? Based only on what's presented in the writing, can you visualize what the characters look like as they talk, in terms of both physical appearance and what they're doing?

Like any rule, there are exceptions. It's possible for a conversation to be so engaging that the reader won't notice the talking heads, particularly if they're very intense and the characters (often in a limited narration) are so focused on the situation that they don't really notice what else is going on. This almost requires that nothing else interesting be going on, though. It's one thing to neglect a character's posture while he's having hostile questions shouted at him in an interrogation room, because that's not where his attention will be. It's quite another if he's in the middle of a battle, but he somehow loses cognizance of everything but the words being spoken. Another case would be where the characters can't see each other, because they're separated by a barrier, in a dark room, on the phone, etc. Then you might only get the nonverbal parts from one side or neither.

Dashes:
You do need to be consistent about the spacing. You normally see em dashes without spaces (used pretty universally by Americans and often for interruptions only by Brits) or en dashes with spaces (used mostly by Brits either universally or for asides only). A dash does provide a little different cadence than a period or a semicolon, and while in spirit, it's more meant to have a partial sentence on one side or another, I'll place one between complete sentences at times to get that cadence. In those specific cases, it's not wrong to capitalize after them, but I usually don't, just for the uniformity of it and because the reader isn't going to notice the difference and interpret it that way anyway, unless he's a particularly fastidious grammarian.

>Canterlonian
I've just always seen it as Canterlotian, though I don't know if canon has ever used a term for it.

>The two unicorns looked at one another before back to Carrot Top
It really feels like there's a missing verb in there. The "before back" combo has an awkward flow to it.

Bang and whistle:
By having the whistle sound, I didn't mean to put a "TWEET!" in there. It'd still need a description of the sound, just like the comment I left for the "BANG." My issue here is that the conversation gets interrupted by the whistle. So don't have the narrator tell me it gets interrupted. Just get straight to the whistle. This is for two reasons: The conversation gets interrupted anyway, so it's redundant for the narrator to tell me that. And by giving the narrator time between the actual interruption and telling me what caused it, you undercut the feeling of suddenness. When something gets interrupted, the very next word needs to be the interruption, or you lose the authenticity of it.

Semicolons:
In the example you cited, a comma would work perfectly fine. A period there would create a sentence fragment, which actually wouldn't be out of place in the narrative style you use, but I agree that it makes too much of a stop in this case. You have a full range of stops available, some with their own grammatical restrictions: period, comma, semicolon, dash, ellipsis. In cases where one is grammatically incorrect, you can generally find one of the others that will do fine. For the comma in particular, there are times that dialogue or a limited narrator can use them incorrectly in effective ways, though that's more by feel than anything else. The semicolon is such a formal thing, though, that it doesn't work well when used incorrectly. Just having it there in the first place connotes an attention to detail that makes errors look out of place, intentional or not.

Perspective:
I don't remember if I did so in your review, but I'll refer you to the section on head hopping at the top of this thread. It's better to stay with a single character where possible, at least within a scene, but there are times that a shift is needed. The material up top give the overview and the important questions to ask before committing to a perspective shift, so I won't repeat them here.

It's easier to get away with abrupt or frequent shifts in an action scene specifically, but in general, they work better when the work is of sufficient length (think novel) that the reader will very quickly recognize any given character by their unique voicing, such that they can easily follow your wandering focus. This is after the reader is acquainted with them enough that they already identify with them. In a shorter work, it just prevents the reader from ever getting to know any of them that well, so he's less engaged and sympathetic with them.

sifting:
In both cases, I wondered whether you'd meant "shifting," which would be kind of a bland word choice anyway. The only definitions for "sift" I've ever seen refer to filtering through something to get particular bits out. That's not what's going on here, since you appear to be trying to relate some sort of movement. There are a lot you could use, depending on how you want to characterize that movement. Just check a thesaurus. A couple that immediately come to mind are slither, skulk, waft... there are many possibilities.

Command structure:
I'm sure that at some point, you defined each character's role, but it just didn't stick with me, and that's probably for two reasons.

For one, that information was scattered through different parts of the story. If it were all in the same place, I'd have gotten it straight all at once, but when one relationship's defined in chapter 1, and another doesn't come along until halfway through chapter 2, now I have to go back and remember what exactly the first one was before I can put the second in context. And like me, most readers aren't going to care about that point enough to read back through and clear things up.

Second, that may not even be necessary if the characters behave in consistent ways toward each other, but here, characters who are subordinate to others seem to take command at times, and the superior officers defer to them. At one time, character A will yell at character B and make her back down, and at another, character B will be yelling, "That's an order!" and I find myself thinking, "Wait, I thought A was in command."

I was caught off guard multiple times by Lyra, Bon Bon, and Derpy all acting in ways inconsistent with where I thought they fell in the pecking order, so either they were, or my perception of the pecking order was wrong. Both are problems.

Bon Bon and Carrot Top:
I made the notes as I read, so if new information came up later, the comment wouldn't reflect that, unless I specifically said so. In that case, I would have gone back to edit the comment or delete it. You did go into their feelings toward each other to a degree, and I get that one is upset about the doctor's brother, but I'm unclear on her motivation. I don't know why she feels compelled to take up his cause, especially when she's quick to acknowledge that a tough decision had to be made at the time.

Taking a quicker path through the forest than Twilight:
It wouldn't be hard to explain this. First, it'd be a concern of theirs anyway, since Twilight had a head start. They'd need to make up the time somehow. Since they should know their mark well anyway, perhaps they knew Twilight would stick to the established paths and roads through the forest, but by cutting directly through the trees, they could take a more direct route.

Doctor Hooves:
He comes across as pretty bland about nearly everything. It's not like he seems happy at the distraction of nearly dying. It's more like he shrugs it off entirely. He'd at least be scared, even if the thrill brings him out of his blue funk. But he never even appears to be in a funk. He pretty much doesn't react to anything at all. It's like he's oblivious to everything, which would occur if he was preoccupied with something, but we never get a clue as to what that is. I can surmise it's his brother, but he never acts like it bothers him when the brother is brought up.

Phrasing:
It's not that so many readers will see this as an Archer reference and discount it. It's a common enough expression anyway that it'd probably weather well. It's more that it felt out of place in the conversation. They were discussing some serious things, and then Lyra just comes across as an asshole. They weren't joking around, so it completely changes the tone of their talk at that point, and they don't seem to have the type of friendly relationship where Lyra could suddenly take it in an antagonistic direction without Derpy taking offense. You wouldn't say something like that to your boss on the first day of work, for instance, but you might after you've known him after 10 years and gotten together to do things outside work frequently, so there's an established familiarity.

The crystals:
Maybe I missed exactly what Star is trying to do. It sounded to me like there were never any such crystals to contain the elements and the doctor is making that part up because he knows that Twilight is interpreting the elements as physical objects, so he might as well give her a placebo to focus her energy. But that would contradict canon, where Luna had possession of such stones, used them herself against Discord, and had them used against her by Celestia.

So if they were never real, wouldn't she know that? Or were they real at one time but aren't anymore, yet the doctor still wants to create that placebo as if they were still stones for the same effect I already described? If that's the case, there's no explanation to lead me in that direction. This also gets to my question about the tree: if these crystals aren't the real elements, then why does returning them to the tree later in canon work?

If you want to say that this story doesn't necessarily follow canon after season 1 or some other arbitrary point, then go ahead and say it, but many readers see that as lazy. AU can say "the elements never were stones," but that's an oddly specific point upon which to branch a universe, especially since this shouldn't be a tough thing to explain.
>> No. 131074
>>131070
Yes, submit it the same way you did last time, and select the option saying the story has been submitted before.
>> No. 131075
>>131073
Okay, I think at this point I see where you're coming on everything, but it sounds like the crystal thing is still causing some confusion, especially where season four is concerned. I'll describe it all as best I can:

It's never told how exactly Celestia defeated Nightmare Moon, but the commonly accepted story is that she used something called the Elements of Harmony. This story is one she made up to distract Nightmare Moon if she were to return. As far as why they're seen in Twilight's flashbacks in the season four premiere, well, that could easily be attributed to some sort of drug-induced visions spurred by subconscious programming, or something of the like. I really don't think that one would be too far of a stretch. Regarding the tree, we know the Celestia and Luna were there when Twilight and her friends discovered it. They claim that it's always been there, but it's also possible that it was recently planted. I am working on a way of expanding the Elements from placebo trinkets into something much more meaningful, but that would be part of another story, should I decide to follow this one up.

tl;dr The Elements are fake and I'm working on some head canon for if/when we get to that point, though it wouldn't be for a long while from now. I have a few notes on where I could take the story in later follow-ups, but nothing too seriously considered at the moment.

You know, it's moments like this I envy those who wrote stories before expanded canon started screwing with too much, haha
>> No. 131076
>>131075
But before Celestia used the elements on Nightmare Moon, Luna used them on Discord. So was Celestia fooling her even then? If so, why? Otherwise, Luna would know they weren't real. Or are you using AU to say Discord never happened?
>> No. 131078
>>131076
What I'm saying is that Twilight's visions never happened. We only see those flashbacks as the result of her drinking a potion, and those visions could be explained any number of ways. Everything we know about the Elements comes from second-hand accounts. Review the season two premiere does have Celestia stating that she and Luna used the Elements against Discord, but again, I can probably come up with something for why she says this if need be.

Otherwise, I can probably use the freedom AU gives me by saying that things are close here, but not quite.

Am I still not making sense? It feels like we're going in a few circles on this topic, and I apologize for that :/
>> No. 131080
>>131078
It's not that big a deal, but it's kind of a minor point to make a divergence on, since it probably wouldn't be hard to come up with an explanation. When you change the entire world or a landmark event, that's expected of AU, but when you only change a detail from canon, and it ends up not changing how things turn out anyway, it does make me wonder why it was necessary. Say she needs to make new stones because there are real ones, but the PPP know that Twilight would need something tangible to manifest them, for instance. They figure she'll have enough confidence in something she can see that she'll attack NMM, her friends will help her, and the real stones will materialize from the friendship. And then the fake stones get smashed anyway, as in canon, but Twilight makes the leap they didn't think she could and realizes that it's her friends' qualities that are the real power. That's at least the way I thought you were going to play it.

Give it some thought. It's not the kind of thing I'd get too hung up on, but it will stick out to some readers that it contradicts canon while it's not clear it had to, especially since most AU stories would really play up the break from canon and acknowledge it openly. This is pretty understated.
>> No. 131104
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

I'll give a shorter-form review than I normally do because it's mostly just continued instances of the same few things.

The sentence structure get a little repetitive at the beginning. Your first two speaking tags have a participle tacked on, and soon after, there's an absolute phrase, which is another participle structure. You don't continue to be repetitive like this, so just clean up that first impression.

Look how many times you use direct address in this first conversation. Then think about how often you actually do so in a real conversation.

Hyphenating words is fine, but when there's an interruption or aside, please use a proper dash. There's a guide to dash use at the top of this thread.

Would Sunset, being from Equestria, really wear leather, as in dead cow skins?

There are quite a few instances of telly language. There's a discussion of show versus tell at the top of this thread, so go read that. Here, I'll just say to avoid directly naming a character's emotion or attitude in the narration except when it's a little throwaway moment that doesn't need to draw the reader into the character's situation. See how many times you use "in disbelief," for example.

Sunset's last three attributions of the first scene are all "Sunset replied," plus one of Rarity's mixed in. For that matter, you use an awful lot of unusual speaking verbs. There's also a section on saidisms up top you should read.

It's preferred to use italics only for emphasis. For the most part, you'll want to stay away from bold or all caps.

>It was Sonata’s turn to roll her eyes now. “Ugh, I told you why I’m here. It’s your turn now, dur!”//
Watch the repetition of referring to turns.

>‘o//
The elision is o', but also note that smart quotes always draw leading apostrophes backward. This turns up elsewhere in the story, too. Please turn them the right way.

Tone down Applejack's accent. It's quite thick, to the point that it slows me down to read it. That's a bad thing.

>“I’m sorry about my van, Rainbow Dash,” Fluttershy said, apologizing//
She clearly apologized. It's redundant to say it again.

>I spent my morning practicing for a track meet and my stomach’s gonna implode if I don’t get some lunch soon!//
This is another thing you do intermittently. You need a comma between the clauses.

>in an attempt to explain why she didn’t come to them about Sonata’s employment at Five Alarm Taco//
Don't overexplain things in the narration. If you write her body language and actions well, the reader will get this.

>who was somewhat furiously attacking her taco salad. She looked up from her eating at the rest of them after a few moments of the girls watching her voraciously devour her food//
Pretty redundant again.

>attempting to further explain what she meant//
More overexplanation.

>...huh?//
Unless it's completing a sentence previously left hanging, capitalize after a leading ellipsis.

>still exhausting nonetheless//
Redundant

>think?//
You'll normally include ! or ? in the italics.

>saying her peace//
The idiom is "saying her piece."

>Sonata felt panic tugging at her//
I haven't really been pointing out specific examples of telly language, but this one is crucial. It's the emotional high point of the story, and now is not the time to have the narrator spoon-feed me the conclusions.

>Specifically, she remembered all the fun she’d been having.//
This is pretty bland. Be specific, but not necessarily wordy. What instances of fun does she remember? How did they make her feel? Again, not in a telly way. Convey that feeling through imagery and maybe what physical sensations they caused.

>Adagio didn’t know who to be more angry with: Sonata, or Sunset.//
First off, read the section on head hopping, too. You'd actually done a good job of keeping much of each scene in a single character's perspective, and even in the couple of times you did shift to another character, I felt like it was justified. That's a surprisingly difficult thing to do well. Here, not so much. The last scene as well. It needs to be in Sunset's point of view for the letter, so don't start in Sonata's head. Have Sunset interpret Sonata's actions.

>well-fed//
In this instance, you don't need the hyphen.

You have a nice, cute little story going here, and while it's certainly a plot that's been done plenty of times, the journey is nice. The sign-spinning angle was a great touch, and you have a good feel for Sunset's and Sonata's voices. What's wrong here is mostly cosmetic, though not necessarily quick fixes. Still, I'd like to see it spruced up so I can approve it for posting. Good luck with your revisions!
>> No. 131107
>>131104

Thanks so much for the technical breakdown, these are all things I have a habit to overlook or not even consider in my writing. It's certainly nice to get real, constructive criticism for a change. I've done a fair bit of editing already and the changes are live so you can use the same story link to check them out. Let me know if I got things closer to acceptable here.
>> No. 131108
>>131107
Well, how to proceed is up to you. As long as you're making progress, you can keep resubmitting, so you don't have to worry about strikes. If you think it's ready for another try, you can simply submit it again.

However, if you want further input from me as to whether it's ready, that'll mean I have a vested interest in the story, and I have to recuse myself from judging it when it does come back through. That'll mean that it may well take much longer to get a response (I tend to take my returning stories quickly) and another pre-reader may well have different problems with it. Your call.
>> No. 131109
>>131108

I've gone ahead and re-submitted. I do feel like I got a lot of things cleaned up and fleshed out some parts that certainly are better for it now. Again, I really appreciate the technical feedback and all and I'm going to try and apply all of what you went over to my future stories as well.
>> No. 131112
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>and since I’m light on funds these days//
Needs a comma for the dependent clause.

>locally-owned//
You don't need to hyphenate two-word descriptors when the first is an -ly adverb.

>though knowing Applejack and Rainbow Dash//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>So help me//
Invective is typically set off with a comma, too.

>Sunset beamed with pride. She liked the idea of having a job, after all.//
The fact that she's beaming and the reason given for it already depicts her as proud. Saying so is not only telly but redundant.

>Sunset may have had a lot of pride in her place of employment, but Rarity could not have been any less thrilled.//
And then you tell me the same thing again. For Rarity, tell me how she acts. You're leaving it completely up to me to generate the mental picture. If you were there observing her, what would to see to make you conclude she was less than thrilled?

>‘FAT’,//
Comma goes inside the quotes.

>Rarity’s disapproving expression//
Show me how this looks.

>as she stepped up to Sunset, putting a hand on her shoulder//
Participles are something to be very careful with, as there are several traps you can fall into with them. There are actually two problems here. First, participles imply simultaneous action, yet these would happen in sequence; she couldn't put a hand on her shoulder until after she'd stepped over. Second, participles like to modify the nearest prior object, so by grammatical default, Sunset's the one putting a hand on someone's shoulder. You likely meant Rarity, but as stated, it's ambiguous.

>and if this is how you want to handle this//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>Rarity arched an eyebrow in curiosity.//
As I said in the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread, these types of prepositional phrases are almost always superfluous. Her reaction already connotes curiosity. You don't have to have the narrator reiterate.

>I’m sure whoever it is//
Comma after this.

>Sonata Dusk” said//
Missing comma.

>curiously, noting their reactions//
Show me that he looks curious. The "show versus tell" section goes over what red flags to look for, and adverbs are another. The "noting their reactions" skips into his point of view as well, whereas you'd started the scene in Sunset's. You could just cut this, or you could phrase it as what Sunset notices him doing. Without framing it as her perception of him, it sounds more like his own perspective.

>Sonata said nervously//
Again, show me how she looks nervous. What's her body language, her facial expression? What does she do? You should get the picture by now. I'll point out a few more telly spots, but that's all.

>blue and indigo-striped//
Hyphenate all that.

>accusingly//
>in a bit of outrage//
>in disbelief//
>a bit smugly//
>seemingly at a loss//
>enthusiastically//
>a bit nervously//
>quizzically//
>excitedly//
>her voice full of hesitation//
>Dash added proudly//
>sounding annoyed// (this one's also ambiguous as to whom it describes)
>Dash replied matter-of-factly//
>Dash asked skeptically//
>in blinking disbelief//
>again in blinking disbelief//
>with a voice full of contempt//
>Aria added snarkily//
>Sunset said a bit pleadingly//
>again snarkily//
Show it. Really, watch those adverbs.

>just tried to enslave the entire school just//
Watch the word repetition.

>Sunset admitted with a groan and a palm to her forehead.//
Here's an example of it done right. You describe only what someone there could see or hear and let the reader draw the conclusion.

>after her admission//
This is redundant.

>shuddered visibly//
As opposed to shuddering invisibly? Even if that were the case, you're using Sunset's perspective, so she wouldn't know. Keep in mind who your perspective character is and be careful to keep to things she could know or sense herself.

>still not understanding Sonata’s apprehension towards the party girl//
Over-explained and fairly irrelevant. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself here, but you could take on a deeper limited narration if you wanted. This is told from a more external and omniscient standpoint, but in a limited narration, you can have the narrator say the character's thought for her. For instance, the narrator could say something like "How could anyone find Pinkie creepy?" If you like that style, then you need to keep it fairly consistent by putting comments like this pretty evenly throughout the story.

>This was going nowhere fast.//
Along those lines, you already do it in places. Here, the narrator is taking a conversational tone and speaking Sunset's thoughts for her. You could do this more, and it'd be more effective than the places where you have the narrator over-explain things.

>Sonata’s claim gave Sunset pause for thought.//
Here's another spot where it's over-explained, but something phrased more like a thought would work better.

>trying to push the issue//
Over-explained. This could just be cut.

>her gaze scrutinizing the girl//
That's just oddly phrased. She's scrutinizing Sonata, not her gaze.

>Well… that and I really, really love tacos.//
There's a missed opportunity here. Think about how she acted about tacos in the movie. But you completely skip showing me how she acts when she says this.

>so just what would they be up to anyway//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>between the two of them//
This doesn't add anything. It can be cut.

>Sunset suddenly found herself feeling rather uneasy//
This is redundant, as her subsequent musings already get it across.

>maybe-//
Please use a proper dash.

>still fairly hesitant about the monicker//
Over-explained again. Cut this, as I'll go into in a moment... And it's "moniker."

>Sonata, however, cut her off before she could voice her opinion on the matter.//
I can already see she was cut off, so this is redundant. Furthermore, it undercuts itself. If there's an interruption, the very next thing after the speech cuts off needs to be what interrupted in, be it speech or an action. By having the narrator wedge something in between, you make it feel much less abrupt.

>sulked in her seat some//
The "some" doesn't add anything here.

>rebuking Dash a bit//
Redundant.

>or if we do//
Commas on both sides of the dependent clause.

>sounding entirely uncertain of her answer//
There's no clear perspective in the scene yet, so I can't tell who thinks this. Later on, it sounds like you settle into Fluttershy's perspective.

>and while she wanted to talk with her friends//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>continuing to try and not be seen by passersby//
Compare to the last paragraph. Much of this scene feels like it's in Fluttershy's perspective, but this is clearly from Dash.

>and you don’t gotta do anythin’ to it you don’t wanna//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>who added her approval a bit begrudgingly//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>as she tried to keep an eye out for Five Alarm Taco//
Switched to Pinkie's perspective. Fluttershy could guess at why Pinkie was doing this, but she wouldn't know explicitly, and "tried" is also a conclusion. What does she see Pinkie do that would make her characterize it as trying, i.e., Pinkie obviously hasn't found it yet?

>‘cause//
Backward apostrophe.

>the horn of her van//
We can assume it's "of her van." You don't need to say so.

>and the girls all waved to Sunset as they passed her by//
Comma for the dependent clause, and the "passed her by" sounds pretty repetitive with the "passersby" used recently.

>as she headed back towards the restaurant with her sign//
This is the third "as" clause in the last two sentences. It gets repetitive. And then you do it again in the next sentence.

>‘Of course not//
Need double quotation marks, not single.

>nodding//
Most times, you'll set off a participle with a comma.

>so it only makes sense//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>Speaking of team, Rarity said someone else was startin’ with ya//
Maneuver this paragraph to the bottom of your screen, then look back up at everything on the page that's not speech. Most of it is just speaking verbs. I have no sense that they're actually doing anything while they talk.

>May I take your-//
Use a proper dash.

>Sonata pleaded, quickly putting her arms up to defend herself.//
>Sunset said, stepping between Sonata and her friends.//
>Dash said, her eyes staring daggers at Sonata.//
>Sunset said, stepping closer to the rainbow-haired athlete.//
>Pinkie asked, leaning in close to look in Sunset’s ear as if it was a way of determining such a thing.//
>Sunset told Pinkie, pushing the pink-haired girl back just a bit.//
Six consecutive speaking actions that use identical structure. Very repetitive.

>keeping an eye on the girls to make sure none of them made any sudden moves towards her//
Watch the perspective again.

>Sunset told the girls once Sonata was outside. “You girls//
You only need to mention "girls" once there.

>and I’ll meet you at your table here in a minute.//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>While AJ groused some at Dash’s smugness, Fluttershy decided to continue the discussion with Sunset.//
Over-explained again. The fact that Fluttershy talks to Sunset obviates this, and it doesn't add anything beyond that fact.

>She looked up from her eating at the rest of them after a few moments of the girls watching her//
That's pretty awkwardly phrased.

>noted//
I'm seeing that as a speaking verb an awful lot.

>which Pinkie accepted and began cleaning her face off before having something outside the window she was seated next to catch her eye//
Same, plus this shifts around so much that it loses focus.

>‘round//
Backward apostrophe.

>Fluttershy deduced from Sunset’s breakdown of things//
Very much over-explained. This is also another conversation that devolved into talking heads. In so many of the paragraphs, there's no narration besides the speaking attribution. What are these characters doing? They might as well be floating in a featureless void.

>Dash pulled her shoulder away//
Third straight paragraph to start with "Dash."

>trying to turn her around like we-//
Use a proper dash.

>to look outside as well. Once she was looking outside//
Repetitive.

>Sonata was out in front of the restaurant with the sign//
Look how repetitive the language is in this paragraph. There are two instances of "into the air," another of "through the air," two references to the music in her head, three spins, two "again"s in the same sentence.

>in an attempt to use it as a shield of some kind//
That's getting into Sonata's perspective. It's fine if it looks to the perspective character (and it's not clear who that is anymore) judges it that way, but this is framed as Sonata's motivation.

>bracing herself for whatever blast of magic might come from the six friends//
Again, this's have to be from Sonata's perspective, since nobody else would think this was about to happen. If you want, you can gently slide into Sonata's perspective as the girls go outside, but you have to keep it there. The previous paragraph was in Sunset's perspective, for comparison. It's jarring to jump around so much.

>so I started fooling around with the sign//
Comma for the dependent clause. And note the two instances of "just" in the sentence.

>her own admiration for Sonata’s sign spinning evident//
If it's so evident, why don't I get to see it?

>Sunset asked, keeping herself in front of the pack of girls once they arrived//
>Dash said, stepping up past Sunset//
>Dash said, making a few moves of her own in the opposite direction of Sonata//
>Pinkie also added, bouncing up close to Sonata//
>Rarity said, trying to inject some calm into the situation//
>Sonata asked, still sounding wary//
>Sonata replied, finally lowering the sign//
>Sunset asked, trying to press the issue//
These are all within the same screenful. See how incredibly repetitive they are in structure?

>turning her attention back to her ponytailed co-worker//
You're using such descriptors for characters a bit much, and this one's unnecessary, as Sunset addresses her in the dialogue, removing any ambiguity over whom she might be talking to.

>Sonata quickly sat up and began partaking of the food.//
Awkwardly phrased and bland. This scene appears to be in Sonata's perspective. So how does this make her feel? She's earning her pay, someone likes her enough to bring her food, and it's something she loves to eat. Surely she has a reaction to it.

>Sonata said after washing down some food with the water//
Along the same vein, this sounds really drab.

>Sunset admits//
Why the switch to present tense?

>Sunset admitted//
Same speaking verb you used for her last line.

>- even the pink one -//
>maybe-//
Proper dashes, please.

>Sonata cut her thoughts short//
That's already evident from the punctuation. And going back to a comment I left previously, once the dialogue cuts off, the very next thing needs to be what interrupted it.

>and as soon as she caught sight of who had entered//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>Sunset quickly got up from her seat and turned to look at the two as well.//
This is also very bland. There's zero indication of how she feels about seeing the other two. She stands and looks at them. For all I know, she doesn't recognize them, or might be looking at the furniture delivery van outside.

>as she looked back at Sonata//
You use "look" an awful lot in this story. It's a very boring word. It's only a what, not a how. Try to pick verbs that connote the how as well, like glare, peer, scowl, etc. Go back through and see if you can find better phrasings.

>‘em//
Backward apostrophe.

>When she realized all of that//
The fact that she's even thinking it makes this obvious. Cut it.

>curly-haired//
>curly hair//
Redundant. These both appear in the same sentence.

>chuckling a bit as Sonata came to the same conclusion she herself had//
You'd been in Sonata's perspective, but now you're switching to Sunset.

>“thumbs up”,//
Comma inside the quotes.

>found in places you never thought you might find//
Watch the repetition of "find."

The good news: There have definitely been some improvements since last time. The bad: I'm surprised at some of the things that didn't change. I pointed out the backward apostrophe and said that I'd found others in the story. You only changed the one I specifically gave as an example. I asked you to change the hyphens you were using for interruptions and asides to dashes. All the hyphens are still there. If I was in a bad mood, I might have given you a flat rejection. Instead, I cut the generalities and pointed out more specific things this time. I expect to see a commensurate improvement next time. If there are things you don't understand or are unsure about, please ask.

The biggest issues here are the telly language and the perspective.
>> No. 131113
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>letting her thoughts roam about//
It's ambiguous whom this describes. Grammatically speaking, Luna is presumed, but you likely meant Celestia.

>Leaves of varying fall colors fell down around them, covering the path.//
Note that you're already falling into somewhat of a repetitive sentence structure. Three of the four so far have a participle, and they all occur at the same point in their sentences, too. The beginning of a story really needs to shine. It's a reader's first impression and one of the parts they'll remember the best.

>judgement//
judgment

>She hated days like those, and today had been one of those days.//
There must be a more elegant way of phrasing this. It recycles so many words that it feels repetitive, and not deliberately so, even though the meaning isn't repetitive.

>which meant that she wouldn’t have to deal with other ponies’ problems for a couple of weeks//
It's odd that you're directly attributing this to a Thursday when you've already been over this material without mentioning that.

>sis//
When used as a term of address, it would be capitalized. However, she's always used the full "sister," in canon.

>She looked at Shining Armor expecting a hug from him//
You'll normally set off a participial phrase with a comma.

>wondering what could have happened to have gotten her niece in such a state//
This is pretty self-evident from the fact that she asked in the first place. No need to over-explain things.

>She felt a lone tear slip from her eye//
This is one of the most cliched things you could have done.

>old long-lost feelings of hurt and depression came to the surface//
Why shut me out? The whole point of the story is to get the reader to identify with Celestia's situation, but you completely gloss over what importance it holds. Yeah, save some for later, if you don't want to lay out the whole conflict so soon, but give me some examples of these feelings. Times she felt a gnawing in her gut when she'd see a mare leading three foals along the street, how she feared she might be subconsciously usurping a motherhood role when she took Twilight on as a student, when she was young and saw the way her mother looked at her, and she now knows she'll never get to be on the other side. You need to give this the gravity it deserves.

>a worried look upon her face//
Go ahead and read the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread. It looks like it's going to be a continuing issue. Put me as a witness in the room. What would I note about her appearance and actions that would lead me to think she was worried? Just give me the raw physical evidence and let me draw the conclusion.

>“Um… is she going to be okay?”//
I think you're okay, as it's common enough to do this, but I at least want you to understand the potential issue. Celestia has held the perspective so far, but she's left, so she can't witness this. There wasn't a smooth transition to another character's perspective, and it would seem odd to do so anyway, since right after the scene break, you go right back to Celestia. But like I said, it's common enough to do a quick transfer right at the end of a scene like this, so you're probably fine here.

>“I don’t know…”//
Now, this is melodramatic. Surely Celestia has encountered close friends and relatives having kids before. What about when Blueblood was born? Or Cadance herself? What about this time makes Luna think it'll be any worse than before?

>cherry blossom trees//
They're just cherry trees. Maybe they have blossoms on them but that's not what the tree is called.

>She was laying//
Lay/lie confusion.

>this place//
>this as a place//
>to this place//
>in this place//
>this place//
>this place//
I'm only six paragraphs into the second scene, and I have all this already. See how it gets bogged down by repetition?

>lake’s perfect, undisturbed surface, creating tiny ripples that marred the lake’s mirror-like surface//
More repetition: two instances of "lake's... surface."

>for everypony’s enjoyment//
I thought she was the only one who came here. Might need to differentiate these trees from ones in general.

>taken its toll on her body, taking//
Repetition. Honestly, if you made the second one another "taken," it'd both strike a conversational tone and make the repetition feel deliberate.

>tried to mate with a few of her guards//
This could have some really disturbing implications. Did she coerce them? Did they know why she was doing this?

>She had made those aware of her indiscretions swear to her that they would never speak of what she did again under punishment of life in prison//
That doesn't seem like her. Even if she'd done so initially in a fit of despair, she'd surely relent later on. If they'd tried to blackmail her, that's one thing, but punishing them for something that was her fault?

>A sole tear//
Again?

So was she already barren by the time she decided she wanted kids and just didn't know it? She's been around a long time; I'm wondering why the urge to have children came about when it did. It's not like she never had the opportunity.

>and demoted him//
That hardly seems fair. What he did had no reflection on his ability to do his job, unless there's something against fraternizing within the chain of command; if so, she's guilty of the same thing.

>Letting her gaze flick back and forth across the lake, her eyes//
Dangling participle. Surely she's the one letting her gaze flick back and forth, but this specifically says that her eyes let her gaze do so.

>; alone in this world.//
Misused semicolon. There's no independent clause after it. A colon would work.

>making her feel happy for the swan//
Redundant.

>the most predominant thing she felt was betrayal//
Don't just tell me the emotion. Let me see the effect it has on her and deduce it for myself.

>soft hoofsteps//
Already used "soft" in the paragraph.

>Luna said softly//
And more soft...

>sister//
Again capitalize it as a term of address.

>freshly-sharpened//
You don't need to hyphenate descriptive phrases when they're two words long and start with an -ly adverb.

>for the few hundred years that followed your banishment//
Why not before that?

>“that//
Capitalization

>Celestia trailed off//
That's the kind of thing you don't need to narrate when the punctuation already indicates it.

>She was cut off//
Same deal.

>Luna opened her mouth to say that she had already gotten over it//
So why are you going into Luna's perspective now?

>A single tear//
Stop that.

>So many emotions swirled around inside her//
Don't I get to see any of them? This is pretty much the emotional crux of the story, and you're skimping on what gives it punch.

>sis//
Capitalize.

That was kind of a rushed ending. It basically said that misery loves company, but it didn't go much into how Celestia felt or whether she was heading toward finding some peace on the matter.

The major mechanical issue was repetition, both in word choice and structure, as in the abundance of participial phrases. On the stylistic side, it used a lot of telly language instead of letting the reader delve into the story and reach the conclusions himself. There are times it gets over-explained, too, which is a similar thing. Give the reader enough space to figure things out on his own, and he will. Also keep in mind that in very emotional situations, less is often more. Melodrama is often transparent and inauthentic. Having a character overreact just cheapens the moment.
>> No. 131116
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Her hair wisped around her face and her coat rippled in a gentle wind.//
Comma between the clauses.

>Smoke rose from the chimney of the cozy cottage, indicating its other inhabitant was still home.//
That doesn't necessarily follow, unless she knows his routine so well that he wouldn't leave an unattended fire, but she doesn'y say so.

>containing fresh cut grass, greens from the garden, and extra water//
You'll normally set off participial phrases with a comma.

>rolling hills in the distance covered in oranges and reds by the forest of broad leaved trees growing on them//
The "in the distance" here separates a descriptor from what it modifies, and it comes off oddly.

>Lunch came on a blanket in the grass as time crawled by//
This is kind of coming out of left field. If you'd outright stated that's what she was doing, implied it through some of the things she carried, or at least hinted that I was getting an incomplete picture of her so far, that'd be one thing, but you're making me revise my mental picture of the situation.

>paper-wrapped food//
Didn't she eat the food? Maybe say that these are just the wrappings or that they're paper-wrapped leftovers.

>she tied the bag shut, and turned to face the hill.//
Opposite issue. This is all one clause, so you don't need a comma.

>surprised she hadn’t glimpsed//
This is located far enough from what it modifies that it causes a hiccup. It sounds like the foreleg is doing this.

>surprised she hadn’t glimpsed//
Fairly telly, and the glare already connotes disapproval.

>Don’t be so surprised//
A little repetitive, as you already described Twilight as such.

>“Shouldn’t you have put it out?”//
There you go. But Twilight seems awful sure that this is against the norm. Might want to drive the point home earlier that since Twilight sees the smoke, she thinks there's no chance of Chroma being out here.

>Croma//
Typo.

>hurt in her eyes//
Don't be so blunt. Let me draw the conclusions.

>Twilight felt a stab of guilt.//
Same deal.

>she grit her teeth//
gritted

>Aren’t I your friend.//
That's a question, right?

>leaf strewn//
Hyphenate the compound modifier.

>“How do I know I won’t understand if you won’t explain it to me?” Twilight asked.//
At this point, I'm noticing an awful lot of places where the only actions are speaking verbs or occasional large-scale actions, but not much in the way of body language that would indicate mood.

>I want to know Chroma//
Comma for direct address.

>This isn’t friendship, Twilight realized.//
This is rubbing me wrong in a couple of ways. First, Twilight has zero reaction to the realization. Second, it's so unsubtle.

>stetson//
That's a proper noun.

>Twilight crested the top of the hill, ignoring Chroma.//
Another oddly placed modifier. It sounds like the hill is ignoring her.

>The ground beneath her suddenly smeared.//
I think you can do without the "suddenly." If the narration is written well, the suddenness will come through without your having to say so. But wouldn't the events of this paragraph be startling? Yet Twilight doesn't react to it at all. The narrator, who's been limited in her perspective, presents this very factually.

>All you have to do is believe me and you can be happy forever.//
Comma between the clauses.

>She realized she’d never felt the slightest discomfort in Chroma’s.//
In Chroma's what?

>floorboards boards//
Extraneous word.

>She picked up a bottle of turpentine.//
You're really getting into a rut of sentence structure here. Aside from the single instance of speech, there's a block of about thirty sentences here where only one starts with something other than the subject, and many are about the same length, too.

>spec//
Typo.

>pain and horror in her eyes//
Show me.

>She’d taken them to this old, run-down cottage; her childhood home.//
A little ambiguous as to whom this describes. My first impression was Twilight, since she was the character most recently named, but then I figured out you meant Chroma.

>Why should I!//
It's a question.

>“Why do ponies always need some conflict, some goal? Why can’t they be satisfied with what they have, without demanding that there be always be something more?”//
Her meaning is true enough, but the way she expresses it just feels more scripted than authentic. It's a spontaneous conversation, and it should feel less like prepared speech.

That's a rather abrupt end. It's fine that we don't get a well-defined resolution, but this just feels cut off before it took any meaningful direction. Chroma seems suddenly apologetic, which is pretty convenient, but at least it indicates what direction the open ending leads toward. The key to an open ending, though, is attaching emotional consequences to the different interpretations. If there's an easily viable one that's anticlimactic, it disarms them all, to a degree. Here, Chroma could just give in because she has no choice, but without learning anything. And Twilight is pretty stoic about it, so she might let it go at that. If we see one or both of them in emotional turmoil over what to choose, then it charges either path.

And Twilight's stoicism definitely limited the story's emotional impact. By not delving into the characters' emotions, it plays more like an academic matter. And given that the narration is limited, it's even more curious that Twilight shows little to no feeling about any of these events.

That said, this was a good idea for a story, and it definitely carries a creepy vibe as I start to figure out what's happening. Charge it up with the emotional subtext, and you'll have something here.

The only other thing I'd say is that it'll be hard to sell this as adventure. They're typically fairly long stories that cover a large time period, multiple diverse locations, and an extended cast. This story is a little tough to classify, but I'd tend to call it normal, maybe dark.
>> No. 131126
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>nor a breeze shaking the leaves and branches of dead trees//
Why do dead trees have leaves?

>They rolled back into their former places; gravel becoming brick and bricks stacking to become walls.//
A comma would work fine there. The semicolon is really improper, since there's no independent clause after it.

>The maze grew back and the broken statues became whole once more.//
Comma between the clauses.

>The pavement emerged from the dirt-covered floor, slowly advancing towards the bridge in time with the old trees regaining their vitality.//
What's advancing, the floor or the pavement? I can't even apply logic to sort it out, since they'd both be used figuratively. A truly ambiguous modifier.

>onto solid oak desk//
Missing word.

>a black feather, all waiting to be used.
>
>The raven's feather

Seems like you might do better reversing these descriptions. There's no reason to add that it's a raven's feather second, since there's no means in the story to increase our knowledge of it, like a character examining it. But if you just start with it that way, it doesn't stick out so much.

>The letter was slowly composed//
There's an awful lot of passive voice at the beginning, which is where you usually want to grab the reader's interest by being active. In any case, this one really stood out as unnecessary.

>due to the date,//
That comma only needs to be there if you're going to pair it with one before this phrase.

>fever and dark visions; that few guards//
Another improper semicolon.

>barely-remembered//
In two-word phrases beginning with an -ly adverb, you don't need the hyphen, but inasmuch as Octavia is writing this, she might not know that.

>“Magnus Anima Nocte//
Missing your closing quotes.

>Everfree Castle//
I used to call it that myself, but canon has referred to it as the Castle of the Two Sisters.

>'Winter Charm,’//
Okay, we have a triple inconsistency. First, why use single quotes for this when you've been using doubles? Second, you're mixing styles. The opening quotation mark is a simple style while the closing one is fancy. And you'd placed the comma outside the quotes previously. Either is justifiable for this usage, but keep it consistent.

>away as//
Extraneous space.

>began;//
You're providing an example, so a colon is appropriate here.

>Fillidephia//
Can't say I've seen this spelling before.

>Train 39, departing to Manehattan to be boarded at platform 8.//
Spell out those numbers.

>and from her vantage point at the cafe//
Could use a comma before this to differentiate the functions of the two "and"s.

>One car was painted bright pink, and had a curved ceiling//
No need for that comma. It's all one clause.

>motif of not having anything to do with each other//
Then... how's that a motif? It doesn't really sound like she's being facetious.

>slowly making his way//
Slowly making his way where?

>he paused to sell a copy to a passerby.//
Capitalization.

>as ponies stopped their conversations, ears and eyes lowering as the news were bellowed in the station//
Kind of ungainly to have multiple "as" clauses there. Besides sounding repetitive, it muddles the timeline.

>Her fever had incremented and she was unable to awaken at all but for brief moments in which her eyes would open and she would try to say something before plunging back into unconsciousness and dark dreams.//
Needs a couple of commas between clauses.

>one thousand year//
Hyphenate.

>alter-ego//
No hyphen.

>It was hard for everypony to see their beloved Celestia so distraught, and Princess Luna had made such a huge effort to be recognized and loved that she had finally just started to reap the rewards of her efforts.//
I can't tell whether you mean these to be Octavia's thoughts or what's written in the article.

>attaching her saddlebags back on//
Odd phrasing.

>where her train waited.
>
>There was no point in waiting, maybe inside the train she would get rid of her headache.

Watch the repetition. And a comma splice.

>Octavia sighed and rested against the comfortable seat.//
On it, yes?

>Slowly her eyelids became heavier; the ponies, donkeys and the occasional gryphon outside becoming a blur.//
Misused semicolon.

>She saw the moon rise; a blood-red orb pulsating with dark energy.//
And again.

>She took a nervous step back, looking around wildly, and she felt it watching her take a step forth in her direction.//
I can't tell if that repetition of "step" is on purpose. If so, it doesn't call enough attention to itself. Maybe add something like "of its own" after the second one?

>Octavia jumped through the door to her bedroom and closed it.//
She just got through remarking how far away the door was, and she's already there. It's contradictory.

>she ran towards it, opening it quickly, she looked outside for a way out, but something stopped her//
A danger of participles: they denote simultaneous action, so she opens the window at the same time she's running toward it. That second comma is a splice.

>and mixed with that damnable humming//
Participial phrases are usually set off with a comma.

>There was a quality to it; a certain edge to the lines, that wouldn't let her ignore it.//
Stop it with the semicolons.

>her soul tugged at her conscience and her mind spun into daydreams of- of//
Needs a comma, and use a proper dash.

>slip the invitation back into her saddlebags//
One invitation into multiple saddlebags?

>It had been skipped twice;//
That should be a colon.

>Octavia didn't even acknowledge her, concentrating instead in the vexing process of trying to fish her book out.//
It hasn't gotten overbearing, but you use a lot of participles. This stretch is getting in a rut, though. You end four consecutive sentences with them.

>carefully leaned her cello's container against it//
Given that she had to sling it over her back and secure it there, there's decidedly little rigmarole in getting it back down.

>The cold wind was already raising a slight mist and the locals were beginning to light up the streetlamps.//
Comma between the clauses.

>last minute//
Hyphenate.

>except she had an appointment to attend first//
She just said so.

>you,” she smiled a bit.//
That's not a speaking action.

>Fancypant's//
I've always seen his name as two words.

>I am sorry that it's on such short notice, I was not aware that I would be invited//
Comma splice.

>even if it was just a day//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>Octavia nodded, her mind still preoccupied by the missing saddlebags.//
This is pretty blunt. Since you've been willing to take a very subjective viewpoint, why not deliver this through indirect thought?

>in—”//
>would–”//
Inconsistent type of dash.

>Octavia interrupted//
I already know that from the punctuation. You don't need to have the narrator reiterate.

>with incredulity//
Telly and redundant with the rest of the description anyway.

>“I'm sorry,” Rarity apologized.//
Redundant speaking verb, and we're starting to get into quite a few saidisms.

>Rarity's horn flashed and an LP floated out of its place on a shelf.//
Comma between the clauses.

>Octavia recognized it instantly, it was one of the few records she had published.//
Comma splice.

>reigning herself in//
Reining.

>But— how could she— I never let her! She— oh//
You don't need the spaces after the dashes.

>Rarity made soothing motions with her hooves.//
What does this look like? I can't envision it.

>I- I//
No space after the hyphen in a stutter.

>say,” Octavia sat down hard//
Not a speaking action.

>the Sugarcube Corner//
For a specific place name, you don't include "the," unless it's actually part of the official name. You go to the store, but you go to Target.

>“Oh, I- I'm sorry, Miss Rarity, as you can see, my mind is all over the place, what was it that you asked?”//
Holy comma splices, Batman!

>“Don't worry,” Rarity smiled.//
Not a speaking action.

>career,” she whispered, then spoke louder, “It's //
When you transition out of a quote and back in, it implies the two parts of the quote are a single sentence, but they aren't here.

>“Well then,” her magic flashed and suddenly several more fabrics floated out//
Not a speaking action.

>earlier,” Rarity shrugged.//
Not a speaking action.

I really don't have any abstract problems here, just mechanical, but they're quite pervasive. You need consistency with dash/hyphen usage, watch the comma and semicolon usage, and don't use non-speaking actions as dialogue tags. The relevant sections at the top of this thread are "comma use with conjunctions" and "dialogue punctuation/capitalization."

It's probably also worth a look at all the "to be" verbs you use. They're inherently boring, as nothing happens. Active verbs keep the reader's interest much better. You have 79 instances of "was" alone in this chapter. Of the easier forms to search on, I counted 184. That's even a little more frequent than one every other sentence. That's how often something doesn't happen.

Since these are almost all cosmetic things, I don't need to give it the usual scrutiny, so select the "back from Mars" option when you resubmit.

Last edited at Mon, Nov 3rd, 2014 22:42

>> No. 131131
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Are you sure you didn't want the title to be "Twilight's Socks"? And in the synopsis, wouldn't she have two pairs of socks?

>On the table there were four socks. By their side, a pony stared at them as if they held the key to all the mysteries of the universe. For the past hour she has been looking at them, lifting them, sniffing at them. Tasting them. All this has been to make sure that they are, without a doubt, ready. There was more to them than wool and color. Her desire, for a start.//
The verb tense keeps going back and forth between past and present. Keep it consistent. Actually, both mistakes were using "has" where "had" was needed. Maybe they were both typos?

>magnificently erect//
While a valid phrasing, it really evokes a sexual image. Not sure if that was intended.

>the softest you could get around Ponyville//
Try to avoid addressing the reader. Something like "the softest available in Ponyville" would work fine.

>Sometimes, socks are what will have to make do when your goal is perfection.//
Addressing the reader again.

>ending to his wrist//
"With," not "to."

>cooperation//
You sure you didn't mean "coordination"?

>to the point//
Odd phrasing. Is this an idiom that doesn't translate well?

>her place on the small table//
"On" here would mean she's up on top of it. You want "at."

>I know it breaks the tradition//
Unnecessary "the."

>Right from the ‘Cooking for Queens: A Saddle-Arabian Guide to the Kitchen.’//
Another unnecessary "the," and a book title wouldn't be in quotes. Underline or (preferably) italicize it.

>A shadow of worry crossed Spike’s eyes.//
Don't have the narrator interpret it as worry for me. Let me see what it looks like and judge for myself.

>Saddle-Arabia//
No hyphen.

>shined//
This is the past tense of the transitive form. You need "shone."

>So what you said the carpets//
about the carpets

>cereals//
It's a collective noun. Just use it in the singular.

>milk from the cupboards//
Won't milk spoil if she keeps it in the cupboard?

>opposite to Twilight//
You don't need that "to."

>cereals//
Again, singular.

>That joke is so old it’s starting to get real//
I don't get it. Maybe it just doesn't translate well?

>cereals//
Just search and replace this. You only use it in the plural if you're talking about multiple varieties.

>main front//
Just "front" will do.

>Heroine of the day, remember?//
Another phrase I don't understand. It also sounds like they're getting a delivery of illegal drugs.

>who quickly scooped the bowls and spoons from the purple halo’s grasp//
Set off the dependent clause with a comma.

>read out aloud://
Keep the dialogue in the same paragraph as the label for it.

>Expect for more//
Odd phrasing. Just "expect more" or something like "watch out for more."

>equally-petite//
When a two-word modifier starts with an -ly adverb, you don't use a hyphen.

>held up by Twilight//
I don't see the advantage of passive voice here.

>in the dim//
dimness

>As far as she could tell, somepony had really put effort to it.//
>He looked up to the ceiling with the idea of a gamble looming behind his eyes.//
Your perspective has wavered a bit. Here are a couple of examples. It's fine to switch to Spike here as you close the scene, since Twilight isn't there to see this. But you don't want to keep going back and forth. Be careful who holds the apparent perspective in the narration.

>still dribbling a bit. There was still//
Watch the close repetition.

>in mail//
in the mail

>And yet,//
No reason to have a comma there.

>the actual premises of the party extended well beyond the castle//
Odd usage of "premises."

>birthday’s//
You need a plural here, not a possessive.

>And this pony had a lot on her life that could do with some justifying.//
Okay, repetition does create an effect, but his paragraph feels like it says the same thing three or four times.

>towards the Castle//
No reason to capitalize that, since it's used generically.

>saddleback//
saddlebag

>bare//
bear

>princess's//
The style of the apostrophe doesn't match the rest of the story.

>without hardly a glance//
with

>after a fleeting glimpse after//
Watch the repetition.

>wouldn’t have shamed a walrus//
would

>overtaking//
Odd word choice. Not sure what you meant to say here. Oh, the English expression is cutting/breaking/jumping in line.

>every time//
This is what caught me last time in thinking the mystery pony was Pinkie, since it sounds like she's waited in line multiple times and brought multiple presents.

>Some of Pinkie’s confetti had rained upon Twilight, and as she shook them off her mane//
Confetti is a collective term. Use "it," not "them."

>A purple halo seized it and turned around to reveal a few lines of the same//
Sounds like the halo is turning around, not the paper.

>Applebloom//
Apple Bloom

>Laying on top//
Lying

>That is what you’re supposed to do, anything else would be considered suspicious. //
Addressing the reader, comma splice.

>At a minute’s intervals//
"At a minute's interval" or "at one-minute intervals."

>saddleback//
Saddlebag. Do a search and replace for this.

>–to which I said: ‘You can’t buy speed, hun’.//
Capitalize this, since we never got the beginning of the quote.

>There was laughter, to which the pony joined.//
That "to" is extraneous.

>One only had to glimpse at those eyes//
Extraneous "at."

>A kind of like the pony was feeling right now.//
Extraneous "of."

>Dash took a step to shake the pony gently from the shoulder.//
"By," not "from."

>and only one would be the wiser of it.//
Comma to set off the dependent clause.

>So you’d think.//
Addressing the reader.

>stetson//
Capitalize

>sugar cube//
As a term of endearment, I've always seen this as one word.

>Not even on winter//
In, not on

>They arrived to the main hall//
At, not to.

>After a quick recollection//
Odd phrasing. I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

>Various painful grunts followed.//
Vague and oddly phrased.

>muttered Spike//
He just did that the last time he spoke. Besides getting repetitive, you don't want to use too many unusual speaking verbs, or they take away from the dialogue.

>blurt it all over her face//
Another expression that doesn't translate? I'd just say "blurt it out."

>Spike strangled the instinct to glance at the pony.//
Why are you going into his perspective, and for only a sentence? Another character can note how he acts, particularly Dash, since you've gone over to her.

>That you have all four//
Until you have all four

>I supposed you could be right//
suppose

>who rushed to help her//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>more louder//
Cut the "more."

>on the morning//
In, not on.

>She was about to circle the other mare, but her conversational tone put a stop to that.//
Why would a conversational tone stop her?

>Saddle-Arabia//
No hyphen.

>whoever you’ve planned giving them to//
Comma before this, and "planned on giving them to."

>And they were itching me so bad!//
You used a similar phrasing earlier in the story, but it's just odd. Itching in the context of socks means something else entirely. I'd expect her to say something like "I just couldn't wait" or "It's been bothering me all night."

>laid them on Twilight’s feet//
At, not on.

>Because it has to.//
It' not really a true sentiment, not without a little explanation. There's no reason she couldn't tell Twilight later on, for instance. Or if Derpy has given up on trying to do so, she ought to say it.

The only other thing I'd say is that it's worth combing the story to see if you can use more active verbs. Of the easier forms to search, I counted 225 "to be" verbs. They're very boring, as nothing happens. Action is much more interesting to read. This is a rate of about one every other sentence. That's how often something doesn't happen.

It's a nice story, and if it were much longer, I just couldn't spend the time to go through it in detail like this. It's come up with your stories before, though, that the main issues were odd word choice and phrasings that seem to stem from an unfamiliarity with English. You've gotten enough readers now that you should be able to recruit someone who can help you with that. The reviewing groups mentioned in the Omnibus could too (link near the top of this thread).
>> No. 131147
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>with an elated tone//
Let me see this. The beginning of story is an especially bad place to be telly. You need to form an immediate connection between reader and character by drawing him into her viewpoint. Telliness keeps the reader distant.

>The seamstress lowered her fabric scissors onto her work table and let out a sigh of relief, brushing a stray hair that was marring the perfection that was her magnificent coiffure as she took a step back from the mannequin and admired her handiwork.//
The "of relief" is also telly and redundant with the sigh. This sentence rambles on so long that it loses focus. Is it about her finishing her work, feeling accomplished, fixing her mane, or looking over her work? It just gets overwhelming and jumbled when it tries to do that all at once. This probably deserves two or three sentences to cover. And speaking of doing a lot at once, participles and "as" clauses show simultaneous action, so she sighs, brushes a hair away, and takes a step back all at the same time. While possible, it feels unnatural and hurts the pacing.

>mid sentence//
Hyphenate.

>at the dress at something//
Repetitive phrasing.

>broach//
brooch

>high pitched//
Hyphenate.

>she was screaming loudly and dancing on the tips of her hooves as her horn glowed with magic the spider was thrown out of the window//
Syntax is off somewhere. There are a couple different ways to rephrase it, depending on how you meant to say it.

>sigh of relief//
You sure like that phrase.

>towering over her//
Badly placed modifier. Grammatically, it's want to modify the nearest prior object, "she." Next, the eye goes to the sentence's subject, "tub." Neither is what you mean.

>sighed//
This is already the third sigh in the last three paragraphs.

>Levitating over an inflatable pillow, she snuggled it behind her//
Another synchronization issue with a participle. She wouldn't snuggle it until after she'd levitated it over.

>and sighed once more//
Oh, look. A fourth one.

>cd-player//
Is there a reason you need more advanced tech in this story? I don't think we've seen anything more modern than a record player in canon.

>Opening up her bathroom cupboard above the sink, she levitated out a box of chocolates//
More synchronization problems.

>levitating a chocolate//
...And this is pretty repetitive with it.

>Leaning back into the inflatable pillow//
You'll usually set off a participial phrase with a comma. And I'll note here that you use an absolute ton of them. It's lending your sentence structure a repetitive feel. The more unusual a structure is, the less you can repeat it without drawing attention to it. You have 5 participial phrases in only four sentences over the last two paragraphs.

>at the vets//
That needs to be possessive, not plural.

>and she had vanquished evil itself//
Set off the dependent clause with a comma.

>high pitched shriek//
This is the exact same phrasing you used before.

>unlady-like//
unladylike

>obscuring her vision as she ran for the door//
And for the third time in the last couple paragraphs, you use two participles in a single sentence.

>She flailed her hind legs as hard as she could//
And now you've used "as" clauses in three consecutive sentences.

>Rarity let out a sigh//
Sigh number six in the story already.

>Water dripping with every step.//
The sentence fragment feels out of place. It's inconsistent with the narration you've been using lately.

>wearily//
Every sentence in the scene so far has an -ly adverb. These are weak descriptors, because they usually force a conclusion on me instead of letting me draw one from the evidence. Describe her as if you were a sketch artist. Make her look and act weary, and I'll believe it.

>weary eyed//
Hyphenate. And it's repetitive with that "wearily."

>making her way for the bedroom door//
>Making her way through the hallway and down the stairs//
Repetitive.

Okay, suffice it to say there are notable problems with being repetitive, telly, and overuse of participial phrases. It's really drwaing attention away from the story and toward the words on the page, which is a bad thing. I'm not going to point those out anymore.

>Basil//
Why is this capitalized?

>Licking her lips as she popped the lid open, her jaw//
This explicitly says her jaw was licking her lips.

>eight, black soulless eyes//
You already made a point of mentioning how many eyes it has.

>T-there//
Consider what sound would actually be repeated.

>maniacally way//
Typo.

>with the label.//
Why would you put the indicated text in a separate paragraph?

>The boutique, was silent.//
What in the world is that comma doing there?

>~//
This is not punctuation.

>followed suite//
suit

>shriek//
She shrieks 8 times in this story.

>the unicorn charge the spider//
Verb tense.

>once clean//
Hyphenate.

>one after the other,//
This needs to be a period.

Well. I think the message here is repetition. I wouldn't have given a detailed review like this, but another pre-reader requested a second look. This story is incredibly repetitive in phrasing, in sentence structure, in word choice, in action.

The ending is kind of disturbing, too, both in how cruel Pinkie and Dash would be to her, and in how Pinkie would be fine in having all those spiders get killed.
>> No. 131150
>>131131
Thanks again for the help, mysterious stranger. Apparently this is not the first time we have met, but your serial number still remains rather unfamiliar to me. In any case, I went over the spelling mistakes and odd phrases, some of which were awkard translations and others simple blunders. The bits where I addressed the reader were not intentional: I meant the "you" to stand for "one", and for most cases I fixed the issue by swapping the two. Hopefully that's okay. Oh yeah, and more active verbs were incerted in place of passive ones.

It's a funny thing, but I feel more at home with academic English than with fiction. I swear, some of my English essays have better grammar than the Finnish ones.

Thanks again!

Last edited at Fri, Nov 7th, 2014 11:34

>> No. 131151
>>131150
I gave you extensive feedback for "The Road to Prolegomena." >>130268 and >>130406
>> No. 131161
Hey, this is Venates! I just want to say thanks again for the feedback on my story, and for helping me get featured on EQD! It truly means a lot to me!
>> No. 131164
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>I watched the drapes flow gracefully in the gentle breeze, they were rising and falling listlessly without a care in the world.//
Comma splice.

>five mile//
Hyphenate the compound descriptor.

>or is it me who will miss them being fillies//
I, not me. I guess it's your call as to whether Rarity knows that, since this is her thought, but she strikes me as the type who'd use this type of grammar.

>I had set my book aside after marking the page. Any second now Sweetie will come charging through that door to disrupt my peaceful afternoon.//
Your tense is wavering, and this isn't the only place it happens. "Had set" is a completed action in a past-tense narration, but "will come charging" is looking forward from a present-tense narration.

>I don't stop her, or do anything to dissuade her.//
No need for that comma. It's all one clause.

>What she doesn't realize is, some bruises aren't skin deep.//
These actually are (implied) separate clauses, but it's an arrangement that typically does't use a comma.

>hoof steps//
One word, like footsteps.

>It sounded like she was doing her best not to be heard.//
This is redundant and far less subtle than what you already said.

>I knocked on the door gently but she didn't answer.//
In this case, you do have multiple clauses, so put a comma between them.

>Sweetie was obviously upset and I needed to comfort her.//
Comma between the clauses.

>She gave the slightest of nods and I gazed into those watery, droopy green eyes.//
Comma between the clauses.

>"Darling, please... talk to me."//
Terminate the italics before the quotation marks.

>I pleaded but it was in vain.//
Comma between the clauses. It seems like this will be a consistent thing. There's a section at the top of this thread under "comma use with conjunctions" with a few examples.

>Her expression never changed: distant yet sad.//
You were doing fine before. It's better to demonstrate how she feels through the raw evidence of her actions and appearance. If the narration is adequate, I'll conclude on my own from your description that she's sad. When you get me to figure it out, I'll have a much closer connection to the character. There's a section on this, too: "show versus tell."

>She would rather to be alone.//
Extraneous "to."

>Oh Sweetie Belle! What have they done to her? Why do they torment her so?//
Okay, you're laying it on thick here. Nothing kills authenticity like melodrama.

>Who are you kidding Rarity?//
Comma for direct address.

>I didn't want to see the mascara running down my face like ink spilling from a broken pen.//
This is my first indication that she's been crying, so it comes up pretty suddenly. I wouldn't state it outright, but you should somehow hint when she starts.

>That will cheer her up and she can tell me what happened.//
Comma between the clauses.

>This. Is. The. Worst. Most. Horrible. Thing!
Okay, maybe I'll take back the thing about melodrama, if you're going to maintain this tone, but it does take away seriousness from Sweetie Belle's situation, and you haven't tagged it as comedy.

>element of generosity//
I normally see that capitalized, and you need a comma after it.

>lay down next to her//
>But laying there simply wasn’t enough.//
Lay/lie confusion.

>The floor opened to nothingness and my stomach jumped into my throat as I plummeted into a vast expanse.//
Comma between the clauses, and you've got a lot of sentences in a row here that start with the subject. It gets into a bit of a rut.

>alabaster colored//
Hyphenate.

>I tried to cry for help but there was no sound. I looked around but there was no place to look.//
Commas between the clauses.

>I could already see the light, it was approaching quickly from beneath me. I tried to get away but movement was impossible, my magic was useless and the light was getting closer… and closer.//
Yikes. Commas where they shouldn't be and none where there should.

>My limbs could move about but there was nothing to grab ahold of to avoid the inevitable//
Comma needed between the clauses.

>surveying my surroundings//
You'll normally set off a participle with a comma.

>I tried to move beyond it but I felt an invisible wall hold me back, keeping the fabric just beyond my reach.//
Comma.

>No, there was something else about this situation, it almost felt… unreal.//
That last comma is a splice.

>I couldn't quite place it but this place was so familiar... if//
Comma, and watch the close repetition of "place." And it doesn't make grammatical sense to have all that as one sentence, so capitalize the "if."

>I tried to kick at the invisible barrier but it was to no effect//
Comma.

>buking//
typo

>Even as I shouted I couldn't be certain that sound would travel beyond the boundary: it was blocking everything else I tried to do.//
Your frequent use of colons is really standing out. It's not that they're misused; it's that they're an unusual enough thing that they easily call attention to themselves. A couple for flavor can work fine, but when they start drawing my attention away from the story, that's a bad thing.

>real feeling//
Hyphenate.

>The curtain started to ripple more, it swayed faster, it's motions becoming more fluid.//
The first comma is a splice, and its/it's confusion.

>Beyond the curtain was yet, another curtain hanging from the ceiling//
There is no reason to have that comma there.

>A light flickered on and I saw another pony in the room//
Comma

>use to be//
used

>A feeling of dread washed over me//
Don't be so blunt. What thoughts run through her head? How does the realization manifest itself as physical sensations?

>She turned her head and I saw her wearing horn-rimmed glasses//
Comma

>this was my inspiration room//
Another thing you'd been doing a good job of until now. This paragraph alone has 9 instances of "was." "To be" verbs in general are very boring. Nothing happens. Unless you want the action to come to a complete standstill, you need to choose more active verbs.

>Rarity I’m bored.//
Comma for direct address.

>in a dream//
Redundant. You've already stated in the same sentence that it was a dream.

>Why don’t you go play with your friends Sweetie?” She said//
Comma for direct address, and speech tag capitalization. There's a section on the latter at top, too, under "dialogue punctuation/capitalization."

>It was a dreadfully difficult pattern to sew and I was behind as it was.//
Comma.

>I’m sorry Sweetie.//
Comma for direct address.

>She rolled it around on the floor then chase after it.//
Verb tenses.

>near by//
One word.

>The desk slammed against the curtain and the vase atop rocked back and forth//
Comma.

>Bu-but Rarity it was an accident.//
Comma for direct address.

>making it fell to the ground//
Typo

>More trips to the spa helped work not consuming me so much.//
Awkward phrasing.

>in the inspiration room//
Comma after this.

>There were some trees and dirt but where there should have been the rest Ponyville in the background//
Comma.

>there was only a grey backdrop; another curtain.//
Misused semicolon. There's no independent clause after it.

>School had just let out and several colts and fillies came rushing out like stampeding buffalo. //
Comma

>None takin’//
taken

>“Sucks there’s no crusading today but oh well. Rarity said we are making cookies today.”//
There's nothing here to indicate what the girls are doing. They might as well be floating in a featureless void. Hae a look at the section on "talking heads."

>Ah’ll see ya tomorrow Sweetie!//
Comma for direct address.

>The school vanished out of view and the scenery moved along like a moving set on a stage.//
Comma

>Sweetie Belle cheerfully trotted down the road with an excited grin plastered on her face. Her bright green eyes shone with glee and she put a little extra bounce in her trot.//
A lot of telly language here with the cheerfully, excited, and glee.

>near by//
One word.

>lioness//
The way you've phrased this, it should be plural.

>The color drained out of her eyes and her smile faded as her trot slowed to a stop.//
Comma

>My heart plummeted, this looked like trouble.//
Comma splice.

>“Hey blank flank!” The silver colored one yelled.//
Comma for direct address, speech tag capitalization, silver-colored.

>“Oh, hi.” Sweetie Belle responded flatly.//
Dialogue punctuation.

>Sweetie Belle sighed, “yes my flank is blank. Now will you please move?”//
Dialogue capitalization, and it's awful hard to sigh all that. It makes for a poor speaking verb, unless the quote is very short.

>Yes, you are blank flank loser.//
Missing word(s).

>Granny Smith.” Diamond Tiara said//
>“Pathetic.” Silver Spoon sneered.//
>“Whatever, I don’t have time for this.” Sweetie Belle said.//
Dialogue punctuation.

>Sweetie Belle said. She tried to go around them again but they yet again blocked her.//
Comma and lose repetition of "again."

>You two are the one’s//
Why do you have an apostrophe there? It's just a plural, not a possessive.

>waiting for me walk by//
Missing word.

>in a mock baby voice//
Redundant. It's already evident by the way she said it.

>Sweetie Belle’s anger had vanished, her head drooped and her ears went flat.//
Comma splice.

>She didn’t cry but she stood in the same spot//
Comma

>her face seemingly troubled, like Diamond Tiara had gone too far//
This would be far more powerful if I could see it in her behavior instead of having the narrator draw the conclusion for me.

>If I ever see those two horrible brats again I will teach them a lesson.//
Comma

I'm barely halfway through, and I'm just seeing the same things over and over again. It should be obvious by now what needs attention. I'll continue on in case I find further plot or character issues, but you should have enough examples of these mechanical issues to find them on your own from now on.

>mom//
As a term of address or in place of a name, this would be capitalized.

>to great our parents//
typo

>as black as suit//
I guess you meant "soot"?

>SWEETIE!//
Italics are preferred over all caps or bold.

>Fighten’ solves nothin.//
Fightin' solves nothin'.

>all time//
Hyphenate.

>Yellow was empathy.//
This whole paragraph is overexplained. If you have to go through your symbolism in such detail, it probably didn't work. This could use a subtler treatment.

>she get’s right back up//
typo

>My beautiful sister, has the biggest heart//
Why in the world is that comma there?

>it’s me that’s taken care of her, it’s me that’s //
A person is a who, not a that.

>sniffeling//
sniffling

>laying//
Lay/lie confusion.

>horn emitted green sparks as she lowered her horn//
Repetitive

This is a common enough story concept that it needs to stand out by having a strong, heartfelt message delivered in a way that feels really authentic, so it's going to take some work to make that emotional connection and clean up the editing.
>> No. 131234
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>The young were in each others forelegs, most of them whistling and flirting in the grass.//
each other's. Young what? Animals? Ponies? This is so out of context that I have no idea what I'm supposed to get from it.

>The birds in the boughs of trees singing each to each in blissful ignorance of the spectacle below.//
You've taken on a fairly grandiloquent tone, so if you intended this to be a fragment, it feels out of place. It sounds more conversational.

>Twilight and herself sat near the back.//
"Herself" isn't a pronoun you can use in the nominative case.

>and no trains were running for another week//
I guess they haven't done this in canon, but I can't imagine why there wouldn't be pegasus-drawn chariots that ponies other than royalty could use. Just a thought.

>and she had been there when Applejack//
You've mentioned so many female characters in the paragraph by now, and none that recently, for it to be clear who you meant by "she."

>world shattering//
Hyphenate.

>middle aged//
Hyphenate. You just got it right in the previous sentence... For that matter, why the repetition? It's not done in a way that there seems to be a point to it.

>wide open//
Hyphenate.

>and then they left.//
Comma to set off the dependent clause, and you're missing the space after the sentence.

>Once again, she//
And once again, I'm not sure who "she" is.

>To Twilight’s apparent surprise, she answered with a guffaw.//
Had this been an omniscient narrator or one in Twilight's perspective, this would be fine. But from Rarity's, it's backward. She wouldn't notice Twilight's surprise until after she'd guffawed, since it wouldn't happen until then. The wording doesn't say it's in that order, but you still want it to follow the perspective character's thought process so it feels natural.

>bigger city//
Hyphenate.

>You know, it’s terrible that I know//
Repetitive phrasing.

>I really don’t know//
And again in the very next sentence.

>Very wise of you, Twilight.//
This is something authors do wrong almost by reflex. You're not bad yet, but look how recently Rarity called her by name. Without thinking about it, many authors use direct address far too often in a conversation. But think about how often it actually happens when you're speaking one-on-one with a friend.

>Mr. Corner//
>Mr. Poets//
Well... which is it?

>Rarity sighed.//
This is the first indicator I've had in a while that these are real-breathing characters. They're pretty sparse here. Let me see what else they're doing while they talk. It adds a lot to the realism.

>whispy//
wispy

>Twilight seemed to consider them for a moment.//
How so? And watch how often you describe how things "seem." Vagueness gets old after a while. In a lot of these instances, you don't need to dither, because there's plenty of evidence as to how things are, not just how they seem. Keep this language when someone really is unsure.

>bookstore.I//
Missing space. Hm. These missing spaces might just throw your word count off an even 5000.

>just see the things you made and I just//
Repetition. This word in particular is one most authors need to keep an eye on. You only use 17 of them, but you do so in clusters.

>the mugs//
The use of "the" here really suggests they'd been mentioned before. It feels awkward.

>‘bout//
Backward apostrophe.

>when cider sale is on//
Feels like a missing word in there.

>scotch//
That's a proper noun.

>magicks//
Why in the world would you spell it that way? Is Rarity a hipster D&Der?

>“With the flood receding, have you had a chance to calculate your damages?”//
That just doesn't sound like natural dialogue. I get that Rarity doesn't have her heart in it, so she might not realize how tactless it sounds, but it also doesn't sound extemporaneous, more like a prepared speech.

>sat besides Rarity//
beside

>a better place for a new foal then a farm wagon//
then/than confusion

>The way that a painter notices with the intimacy a love can only emulate the existence of ripples and folds in a contextless, meaningless bit of cloth.//
That sentence just does not parse well at all. I can't figure out whether "the existence" is the direct object of "emulate" or "notices."

>headed home//
>headed back down the winding country road//
Close repetition.

>Rarity wondered what she thought//
So have her do so. It'd be much more illustrative than giving me the summary.

I'll give you the scene at Applejack's, because it did some nice mood setting, but I have to say, it seems pretty irrelevant from a plot standpoint. Nothing useful came of it, and Applejack has a tangential relationship at best to the story's events.

>and Rarity sighed//
Set this off with a comma.

>still growing//
Hyphenate.

>At the door to her home and business, Rarity opened the door//
Repetitive/redundant

>and by the time things had changed//
>But when I came back//
>but as I grew and calmed down//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>took another sip, taking//
Repetitive. And note that "taking a sip" is the default action that writers use over and over again for characters drinking. It's become cliched.

>swish the cool wine in her mouth//
You just had her swish it in her glass a bit ago. Watch the repetition.

>Rarity took another sip, taking the time to taste and swish the cool wine in her mouth before letting it go, picking out the different notes of flavor that made a beautiful chord.//
Okay, let's review that sentence again, for sequencing this time. Remember that participles mean that things happen simultaneously. So she takes a sip. While taking that sip, she tastes and swishes the wine around. Probably should happen in sequence, but it's enough of a gray area to let it slide. After this, she lets go, at the same time as she picks out the flavors. Seems like this last part would go with the tasting and swishing, but you've already broken it out of the timeline with the "before."

>They say she left without saying//
Repetition. You could just go without that "saying."

>and the last big order from Canterlot had gone predictably south//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>scotch//
Capitalize

>radiant…” she faltered.//
That's not a speaking verb.

>Twilight seemed taken aback.//
How so? And this is getting talking heads again.

>and it was quite fun//
>when it’s put that way//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>there isn’t anyone on the other side of the page//
I rather disagree with this. Not that it wouldn't be a genuine sentiment from Rarity's standpoint, but I'm surprised Twilight doesn't contest it in any way. She's very knowledgeable about the value in printed matter, after all.

>its worth something//
Its/it's confusion.

>and her horn lit as she fought briefly with a tangle in Twilight’s mane//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>near fatal//
Hyphenate

>and she says you do it to her too.//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>You know, Twilight//
You're getting back into using direct address more than what would feel authentic.

>happy with her work//
Show me. A little narrative comment on it would work great.

>It makes me happy, Twilight//
See previous point about direct address.

>he told me that what I did mattered al lot, Twilight.//
stahp. Typo in there, too.

>if I really felt this way//
Comma after this for the dependent clause.

>at least he cared Twilight//
Missing comma for (yet more) direct address.

I can't help but think there was an easy way to make Applejack's scene mean something to this narrative. I'm also surprised how much Twilight sits back and waits for Rarity to reason her own conundrum out. I mean, there's value in doing so, but it didn't feel engineered on Twilight's behalf, more like she was being completely oblivious and lucked into saying the right things. I pointed out how I was surprised she didn't refute Rarity's opinion about the writings of dead people. But she also could have pointed out how Applejack is in much the same stuation. Rarity had a great appreciation of nature at the farm, and yet that is all temporary, too. The sunset lasts but a moment. The trees drop their leaves in the fall. The apples will rot on the ground. Except that some good comes of it. The sun and the trees will be renewed in their time. The apples are necessary for ponies to live and grow. Applejack accepts that in a very fundamental way that seems to head off even the possibility of an existential crisis. Maybe Rarity can't force herself to be that pragmatic, but she could at least follow the argument. Ponies need beauty, too. Maybe a particular poem or dress is insignificant, but the existence of them at all brings joy to many people.

So, what was my point? Well... Bottom line is that I think there's some unrefined ore here that could make for a richer discussion in general, but also because Twilight is so oblivious and Applejack so irrelevant that they barely play a role in the story.

That said, it may just be me, and I certainly can't require perfection (or my definition of it) to accept a story for posting. In short, fix the other issues, and I'll approve it. but at least give this part some serious thought as well, even if you decide it's not something you want to change.

Oh, and I had no idea what was meant by the wife's departure, but I'm pretty thick at reading between the lines.

When you're ready to resubmit, please select the "back from Mars" option.

Last edited at Sun, Nov 23rd, 2014 22:30

>> No. 131279
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>the only pony that could save her//
A pony is a "who," not a "that."

Story:
>I thought back of my grandmother.//
Ah, I see from the comments you're German. I'll try to help as much as I can. One of the toughest things to learn in any foreign language is what prepositions go with which expressions. Here, it'd be typical to use "to" or possibly "on" instead of "of."

>Sorry grandma,//
Direct address takes commas on both sides, and when used as a term of address, "Grandma" would be capitalized.

>uncareful//
Awkward word choice. "Careless" would sound more natural.

>my lack of full attention of what I was doing//
"to" or "on," not "of" what I was doing.

>inaudible minimum of moving air//
If she can't hear it, then why is she telling me about it? It suggests that she's giving the matter a lot of thought, which is a really strange place for her musings to go.

>The sky was truly a sight that night.//
If this was all, I could ignore it, but then we get this:
>There wasn’t any artificial light in sight//
>the night village//
>spotlights//
So we get quite a bit of repetition all in that same paragraph, and worse yet, so much of it rhymes. Especially those first two examples, where the rhyming words appear so close together. For one, it gets distracting. I start musing to myself about how much rhyme there is, and that pulls me away from the story. For another, rhyme creates an effect. You may not intend anything by it, but it still does. Like I said, the first one could have passed by with little notice, but when it keeps happening, it makes this light, possibly humorous, and thet's not the tone you're trying to create in this scene. It's working against you.

>plants that surrounded me expressed an air of calmness that surrounded me//
And you've directly repeated "that surrounded me" in the same sentence.

>A serpentine offering.//
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. "Serpentine" usually means winding, though I get the impression from this phrasing that you mean it more literally of the snake, as in tempting but harmful. But see the confusion that easily results from using unusual definitions or pretty opaque metaphors. In fact, I've found the word choice pretty inconsistent so far, at times favoring the most complex synonym possible for a word, and at other times very simple. There are reasons such a thing could be done, but I don't see the mood changing in the narration to coincide with that.

>it was clear just from the way they acted//
So how did they act? It'll have a lot more impact if I get to see it, especially since their reaction seems to be important to the narrator.

>That fact was underlined//
I think the word choice here is fairly appropriate, and not in a good way. This is stated as a fact. But how does the narrator feel about it? She may wish to keep her feelings inside, but the narrator is inside. If you suppress even the internal reaction, it's very hard to keep things interesting. It'll end up reading like an academic paper or a historical account, not a story.

>My own expressing//
expression

>I could make out//
Pretty much the same phrasing you used in the previous description.

>He was either tired or annoyed.//
What's the difference to her? If she cares, then she'll keep trying to figure it out. If she doesn't, then why is she trying to read all these ponies? The description that precedes this is good, though: it gives me the physical description without feeding me a conclusion.

>to begin imagine//
Missing a "to."

>I was glad to see the security//
In this usage, you don't need "the."

>“He kinda has a point, though,” I suddenly heard a mare say,//
Minor thing, but it's much more effective if you can get across a sense of suddenness without actually using the word.

>the leaving drunk guy//
Awkward phrasing.

>mhm’d//
mhmed

>The whole information//
Just use "everything" here. It sounds much more natural.

>the exact events of what would happen from there on//
Awkward phrasing.

>rejected to compute//
Awkward phrasing.

>When I fully came back to myself//
You'll most often set off a dependent clause with a comma.

>the grills chirping their melodies//
I have no idea what you were trying to say, so I can only suggest that "grills" might not be the word you were looking for. I can't think of anything close in spelling or meaning that makes sense, so I'm lost.

>I’ve been missing//
She's speaking in past tense normally, so a present participle is out of place. "I'd been missing."

>I can’t, grandma//
Capitalization.

>I’ve been young too, many years ago.//
Verb tense again. The "I've been" suggests that she still is young.

>as my eyes took their time to adjust to the moonlit night, as they tried to make out where the question came from.//
It's really clunky to have two "as" clauses in the same sentence like this, especially one after the other. Besides being repetitive, they have a redundant function: to synchronize actions. Combine them into one: "as my eyes took their time to adjust to the moonlit night and tried to make out where the question came from."

>They came to halt//
They came to a halt

>everything okay//
Missing a verb.

>parkbench//
That's two words.

>louder than I intentioned//
intended

>My mind was like it was thrown in the fire//
Awkward phrasing.

>But just as it was about to finish finding a petty excuse to vent at someone//
What does "it" refer to here? Are you sure you didn't mean "I"? Also, this paragraph is very factual, the same problem as before. There are times even a third-person narrator should do so, but especially for a first-person narrator, the delivery needs to reflect the character's mood. The dialogue sounds like that in the previous paragraph. Make the narration have the same feeling in it.

>she whispered into my ears//
Both of them?

>my face buried itself into her soft fur//
There are times it works, but beware of attributing actions to body parts. In this case, it undercuts the emotion that made her choose to do so by just claiming it happened for some reason beyond her control.

>I was in the save embrace//
safe

>bring a warming light into the cold hall inside me. A light that illuminated the entire room.//
Note the odd mixed metaphor where a hall becomes a room.

>and neither did I.//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>She didn’t even ask what the matter is, she just noticed that I wasn’t feeling well.//
Verb tense problem and a comma splice.

>And yet now she was stroking my mane and let her mane get drenched//
Inconsistent verb forms and repetition of "mane."

>As I finished comprehending the full meaning of this//
Very cold and factual again. Let me see her thought process. Let me see how she figures it out and what it means to her.

>At the peak of my guffaw//
Odd phrasing.

>I might’ve broken some bones of her//
Awkward phrasing.

>I laughed and eased the grip around her.//
"My," not "the."

>It looked like it became much more beautiful in the meantime//
Way too vague and short to carry much meaning. Let her muse about it a bit.

>All I did was silently thanking the stars for the moment.//
Verb form.

>As though I was packed by strings//
I have no idea what you meant to say here, but this doesn't make sense.

>I put my cello onto its stand//
On. "Onto" implies being on top of something. If I remember my German correctly, it's the difference between "an" and "auf," though Germans might use the opposite sense than English does.

>When I was at your age//
Comma for the dependent clause, and that "at" is extraneous.

>a unusual//
an

>learning progress//
Awkward phrasing.

>an barely//
a

>and got away from the mare again//
Missing a subject for this clause.

>“If I may ask, why did you not want to hear the reason why I was sad? You just blindly accepted my situation and took me into your embrace.”//
They were in a very spontaneous moment, yet this dialogue sounds so formal as to seem rehearsed. It doesn't feel natural for the moment at all. In fact, that goes for this entire conversation.

>what they could’ve made differently//
Typically, "done," not "made."

>I already wanted to so//
Missing word.

>Am I daydreaming? Hallucinating?//
I don't get the difference between why she would say this out loud while keeping the thoughts in the previous paragraph internal.

>something else made click in my head//
Missing word at least, but odd phrasing.

>This pony, whoever it was, has given me the comfort I needed//
Verb tense.

>to not fall into complete despair//
Not to. And there never really was a moment where Octavia figured things out. You mentioned a "click," but you left it up to the reader to vocalize what that realization was. Let me see her thought process. The whole point of the story is for her to learn this lesson, and as it is, I have to invent that moment myself.

>It’s because that one//
Syntax is off here.

I don't see any problems of a story or character nature, which are generally the tougher ones to fix. There are the usual wording and phrasing problems I'd expect of a non-native speaker, so it'll take finding someone very familiar with the language who is willing to be very thorough and point out anything that sounds funny to him. My only other big issue is that the story's key emotional moments tend to be glossed over and kept very factual in the narration, which really lessens the impact they can have.

Also look at the sheer number of times you use the word "just." 29 times in a little over 2800 words. That's quite often.

There's a link near the top of this thread to the Omnibus, which contains writing tips and links to reviewing resources.

Last edited at Tue, Nov 25th, 2014 15:52

>> No. 131292
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Routine made us wake up, everyday//
In this usage, "every day" really needs to be two words.

>now - a//
Please use proper dashes for interruptions and asides. Hyphens are for stuttering and certain compound words and phrases.

>Shadows lifted themselves from the furniture, washed out by a nauseating brightness and saturation. The decrepit walls were replaced by well-maintained, navy blue cumulus; expensive products lined new shelves, complemented by pictures I never placed up.//
I'll level with you. The prose here doesn't make sense for the character, but it's entertaining enough that I can let it slide. So I'm not going to make you change it, but I at least want you to understand. There's a lot of fancy word choice you've used so far. This is just an example. I wouldn't expect a police officer to speak like this, for one. But the major point is that I certainly wouldn't expect this kind of language from someone suffering a hangover. It's a very subjective narration, so the tone needs to match the character's mood and situation. Frankly, it doesn't here.

>Completely disoriented, I trotted to the door. What I saw along the way -- what I saw just now -- did not even register.//
Here's more of what I'm talking about. If she's that disoriented, then shouldn't the narration sound like she is? And if it didn't register, how does she know to say it?

>What- What//
Dash, please, and you don't need to capitalize after it.

>For the love of-. How//
Use a dash, the period is extraneous, and you don't need to capitalize after it.

>quote, ‘the//
Capitalize the start of the quote.

>Fillydelphia’ end quote//
Needs a comma.

Note that your paragraph indentations are very uneven. That can result from importing something rather than pasting it into FiMFic. Frankly, since you're leaving space between paragraphs, you don't need to indent.

>less it disappear just as suddenly//
lest

>Pulsant - it//
Dash, please. Suffice it to say you need to scan through the story for these.

>Listen Solar W-...//
>So, you have a-... you’re//
That punctuation combination is mutually exclusive.

>his misty eyes had already fold//
Verb form.

>James Joyce//
Where in the world is this coming from? I mean, I see where you're taking the story, but this is pretty sudden.

>A click ahead//
Usually spelled "klick" for a measure of distance.

>directly across it//
Missing a "from."

>fella'//
No reason for that apostrophe. It's an imitative spelling, not an elision.

>15//
Spell out numbers this short.

>Donny!-//
A dash would come before an exclamation mark or question mark.

>BANG.//
You don't need sound effects in the narration. Just describe the sound.

>but it was nothing that was already experienced//
Are you sure this is the way you meant to phrase it? It doesn't quite make sense.

>Do you hear that-.” Her question slurred and trailed off//
Extraneous period, and you've contradicted yourself. A dash doesn't indicate trailing off.

>The underboss was all that laid between me and Lightning Bolt.//
Lay/lie confusion.

>Dumb-bell//
You'd been capitalizing both parts.

>something?...//
Question mark goes after the ellipsis.

>Woah//
How is it that so many people can't spell such a simple word?

>detective Fleetfoot//
In this usage, "Detective" would be capitalized.

>soot grey//
Hyphenate.

>leather coat//
As in "she wears the skins of dead sentient cows" leather?

>saturday//
Capitalize.

>döppelganger//
The umlaut goes over the "a."

>miss Fleetfoot//
Inconsistent with how you capitalized it before.

>The sergeant began a gallant trot down west wing.//
Missing word.

>outside my peripheral//
Her peripheral what?

>taking a mouthful of Earth//
Lower case, since you presumably don't mean our planet specifically.

>700 miles per hour//
Spell it out. And it's an odd mix, since you used meters earlier in the story.

>The rain was back in full force, taking away the warmth I had felt in that field with my daughter and Soarin. Once again, I was alone on Roscoe Street, excluding the pony currently bashing my head in. Another punch across the same cheek made fissures out of the cracks that were there before. All my senses became discombobulated, leaving me unable to do anything more than observe my own murder.//
Again, the narration doesn't match what's happening. It doesn't sound concussed at all, and it's noticing details she wouldn't be able to.

>just, just//
Commas aren't for dramatic pauses.

>His voice was as a grand piano as euphonious//
That second "as" doesn't quite parse.

>No budge.//
Odd word choice.

>within my peripheral//
Again, her peripheral what?

>say-.//
Extraneous period.

>wonderbolt//
Capitalize.

>tied up//
Hyphenate.

>The bind slackened.//
"Binding" or "bond" would work better. This has a different connotation.

>pearl white//
Hyphenate. And pearls aren't very white. The phrase "pearly whites" refers to the luster, not the color.

I like the mood of this story. There are a few pervasive issues, like dash use and how you combine dashes with other punctuation. Mostly, though, I'm going to urge you strongly again to reconsider some of the narrative voicing. You did a good job of changing the pacing during action scenes, for instance. So why wouldn't you adjust the narration to reflect her frame of mind when she's drunk or concussed? It's a little too cohesive and with a little too advanced vocabulary to feel like it accommodates what's happening. I see that one commenter complained about the tough words, too. I don't think it's so much of an issue for reader understanding, but more that it makes the story very uneven. She pops out one of these advanced words every once in a while, but she also uses a lot of vernacular, which would seem to fit her character better. So when she does open the dictionary, it jumps out at me as being out of place.

When you're ready to resubmit, please choose the "back from Mars" option. In a break from the usual way of doing things, I'd like a different pre-reader to look over it then, but I will try to expedite the process so you don't wait in the queue for weeks.

And if this story is going where I think it is, it reminds me a little of this one: http://www.fimfiction.net/story/23731/author-author

Last edited at Mon, Nov 24th, 2014 21:57

>> No. 131293
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Cherry Pie has gotten into the hard cider and she’s dancing on top of Deputy Bench Warrant’s wagon again.//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>he’d handle this a few times before//
Verb tense.

>With a nod I flipped my hat off, and caught it on a rear hoof.//
That's all one clause. It doesn't need the comma.

>my In basket//
No need to capitalize that. You could put "in" in quotes, but honestly, it's fine without them.

>to have hoof prints clean off his wagon//
Verb tense.

>an addenda//
"Addenda" is plural. You want "addendum."

>My little dog ran to the wall, and leapt to retrieve my hat.//
No comma. It's all one clause, and it's not particularly complex.

>middle aged//
Hyphenate.

>He was playing in our yard and I was watching through the front window.//
Comma between the clauses. Looks like you basically have the usage backward.

>I saw his ball roll into the neighbor’s yard, and I went out to tell him not to bother Mr. Counter//
Well, you got it right this time...

>“Alright, y’all listen up,” I raised my voice to address everypony.//
That's a pretty poor choice of speaking attribution. It does't really parse, grammatically.

>so if he’s close//
Comma after this.

>And if he does come out in the daylight//
Comma after this.

>and his folk come from deep jungles//
Comma after this.

>declared Hat Pin//
>said Prickly Pear//
>exclaimed Prickly Pear//
This is the sum total of the narration we get in thirteen paragraphs. This constitutes two problems:
1) Part of the joy in this is watching the conversants react to one another and seeing the body language as they speak. Keep in mind that the words are only half of a conversation. Let me see the nonverbal part. It's a much richer experience.
2) You have a first-person narrator, yet she stands idly by and has zero to comment on. She doesn't find this amusing or odd or something?

>‘Course//
You don't need the apostrophe (and it's backward anyway). There aren't missing letters; you're skipping an entire word.

>Once Aunt Keeper started in calling me ‘Little May’//
Comma after this.

>If this went on//
Comma after this.

>There was no pattern I could see, it seemed to happen on random nights.//
Comma splice.

>If the spinster mares heard her//
Comma after this.

>Ladies//
Why is this capitalized?

>OK//
Spell it out. And you've gone on a long dialogue-only ramble again. We call that "talking heads." For that matter you might as well read the sections at the top of this thread under "comma use with conjunctions" and "talking heads."

>all business//
Hyphenate.

>Once I was satisfied that Barney had the scent//
Comma after this.

>If I ran into trouble//
Comma after this.

>A fear//
You sure you didn't mean "I"?

>Since I was on duty//
Comma after this.

>Can I offer you some refreshment.//
It's a question, right?

>something. “Cider.//
What's with all the extraneous space?

>Is that your dog, Sheriff Berry?//
Look how many times they use direct address in this conversation. Then think about how often you actually do so in a real conversation.

>Count wouldn’t have known it//
Comma after this.

>funny looking //
Hyphenate.

>As the welfare of a child is involved//
Comma after this.

>fore legs//
forelegs

>then a second head snake out of his collar.//
Verb tense.

>eleventh dimensional //
Hyphenate.

>I hoped he didn’t see me cringe.//
And finally we hear from the narrator. Another very talking-heads conversation. And it really does keep things a lot more boring than they should be. It's rare that you can rely on dialogue alone to carry the emotion, particularly in comedy.

>He pushed a big blue button and a platform descended from the ceiling.//
Comma between the clauses.

>I was round and glowed green.//
Sounds painful.

>He didn’t notice, and I didn’t mention, the scent of burning wiring.//
So her plan worked, and... she's completely stoic about it? That's pretty bland.

>Jenny Digger closed up shop, and took a job with a competing well digging firm.//
No comma. Well-digging.

>mean spirited//
>black bordered//
Hyphenate.

>We’ve grown used to that; and over time most folks have learned to deal with our more eccentric visitors.//
What does the semicolon give you that a comma wouldn't?

This story started off cute enough, and I appreciate all the nods to Andy Griffith. It needs a tune-up in the emotions department, though. Between the talking-heads conversations and May being so stoic about everything, you're forcing quite an emotional distance between the reader and the character that really shouldn't be there. She sounds utterly bored with everything to the point it's rarely worth making anything more than factual statements about it, so if she doesn't seem to care much, why should I? Fortunately, this isn't a particularly difficult problem to fix.

When you're ready to resubmit, please select the "back from Mars" option.

Last edited at Mon, Nov 24th, 2014 22:42

>> No. 131295
>>131279
Thanks for the review. I've applied all your changes and also got a friend from the U.S. to look over it. In hindsight, it was only natural for this story to fail without any editing by people who know their language.

The only question I have: What option should I set for resubmitting? "Yes - This story has been submitted before." or "Yes - This story is back from Mars. Good to go?"
>> No. 131296
>>131295
Choose the "Yes, this story has been submitted before" option. We'll tell you to use the Mars one if that's appropriate. Looking forward to seeing what you've done with the story!
>> No. 131308
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Above all else, she was proud of her students for everything they had accomplished, and excited to see how the rest of their lives would turn out.//
Just a few examples of things she was proud of would serve you far better than making a vague generality like this.

>Looking over the crowd of happy families in the schoolyard, Miss Honeydew’s smile grew a little wider as she recognized more and more faces.//
You're explicitly saying that her smile looked over the crowd, not her.

>Whisker Biscuit//
I have no idea why you'd choose to name a character that in a clean story. That's got some rather raunchy connotations, and I'd really urge you to come up with something different.

>who also had a rather memorable Cutie Mark discovery a few years earlier. A hollow look briefly crossed her features and she chuckled weakly as she remembered the incident//
There's really no point in teasing like this if you're not going to tell the story.

>This-”//
Please use a proper dash for interruptions and asides. It's worth scanning through the story fr these.

>a look of disgusted disbelief//
>tight-lipped anger//
These are just a couple of examples, but it's much more effective to let me observe the characters and draw my own conclusions than have the narrator do that as a proxy for me.

>4//
Spell it out.

>clutzy//
klutzy

>impressively-sized//
When the first word of a phrase like this is an -ly adverb, you don't need the hyphen.

>massive amount of letters//
"Amount" is really for collective quantities. You could have a massive amount of mail, but a massive number of letters.

>Lily let out a long breath she didn’t know she had been holding//
This is very cliched.

>sat..//
Extra period.

>Figuring that she probably wasn’t going to fall asleep anytime soon, Lily gave in and tossed the comforter aside, walking over to the still-considerable stack of letters she hadn’t read yet.//
You really do use a lot of these participial phrases. Besides getting repetitive, they have their own attendant problems, like the dangling participle I pointed out earlier. Here's another: they imply simultaneous action, so you have her tossing the comforter aside at the same time she walks to the stack of letters, though it'd more reasonably happen in sequence.

>Not that she had reason to betray that trust, of course//
No need to capitalize the parenthetical element.

>she was too tired to bother doing anything//
Almost the exact phrasing you used in the last paragraph, and it's not pointed out in a way that the repetition seems deliberate and meaningful.

>she was too tired//
>suddenly be so very tired now//
>blinked tiredly//
So, she's tired, you say?

>Lily sat down at her desk and lit a candle to read by, and opened the letter//
Why the litany of "and"s? That's a clunky construction.

>Should I just tell him what his talent it//
Typo.

>large, decorative//
These are hierarchical adjectives and don't need the comma.

>but before she could speak//
Comma fo the dependent clause.

>she was interrupted by Spike opening the doors to the library, carrying a stack of letters and a newspaper//
There are a lot of things wrong with this, Small things, but they add up. First, participles like to modify the nearest prior object, so it tends to say the library was carrying a stack of books. Now, I can apply a little logic to say it must be Spike, but I still have to wade back across "library," "stack," and "books" to get to the correct object. It muddles things a bit to have hat phrase so far from what it modifies. It'd do better as a separate sentence, though, as this one meanders around to so many different things that it loses focus. The passive voice isn't helping here, either. An interruption is an active thing. But I lose the sense of it because Twilight never really gets started doing anything and because Spike's interruption is cast as a passive thing.

>Spike looked smug//
Why don't I get to see it? Emotions are so much more powerful when I interpret them from the context, just like if I was there watching him. It disarms the impact when the narrator makes the conclusion for me.

>Twilight cast a suspicious glance at the mail in the young dragon’s arms, and thought she saw the ribbon of a Royal Seal poking out of the stack.//
Opposite issue from before. This is all one clause, so you don't need the comma.

>Live.”
You would keep an exclamation marl or question mark in the italics, but other punctuation should go back to normal font, unless the entire passage is italicized, like in a letter or brief flashback. You do this a number of times, and it looks odd when the closing quotes don't match the opening ones, for instance. You do this a lot.

>a worried glance//
Again, let me see this. You don't have to show all the time, and you didn't seem to have trouble with it in the first couple chapters, but it's starting to crop up.

>Twilight smiled wider at him, holding up her newspaper.//
Here's a case where it's truly ambiguous. Either one of them could be holding up the newspaper, and the grammatical default says he is, but most authors using this construction actually mean Twilight.

>then took her copy of this morning’s Ponyville Express over to a reading table, opening it up to the puzzles and games section
Yet another danger of participles: they synchronize actions, but she doesn't open the paper until after she's gotten to the table.

>cried excitedly//
More telling that really doesn't need to be so. Let me see her look and act excited. Think of her as an actor. She wouldn't just go on stage and say she's excited. She'd get you to conclude she was. Good writing works the same way.

>Applebloom//
Apple Bloom

>to look upset//
Show me.

>Lu-pine!//
Since it's attached to a (partially) italicized word, italicize the exclamation mark as well.

>had the sense to look apologetic//
Again, show me. But the bigger issue here is that "had the sense" implies that this is someone's judgment, but you haven't established a perspective for the narrator. I have no idea whose opinion this is.

>puh-seudo-’” -Sweetie Belle winced- “-magical
Use proper dashes for asides or interruptions, and you've doubles up on them here. eep the pair arouns "Sweetie Belle winced" if you intend for the speech to go on uninterrupted, and the other pair if she stops speaking for the action. On the other hand, if you actually mean that to be part of a hyphenated term, remove the one with "magical," since you already have one with the first part of the quote.

>Whoah//
This fandom never ceases to surprise me with the number of people who can't spell this correctly.

>Sweetie Belle asked in excitement. Spike began to look worried.//
Show me. You should get the picture by now. Suffice it to say that you need to sweep through the story for things like this.

>Spike decided now was the time to speak up, but before he could, he was interrupted by the voice of Twilight, who was rounding a bookcase and approaching them.//
Same as before, this sentence tries to do too much, and the interruption loses its quality by being cast in passive voice.

>Twilight looked lost for a second before she remembered what the three had been studying.//
The perspective is all over the place here. Only she knows what she remembers, but she wouldn't think of herself as "looking lost," so this is both in her head and in some unidentified observer's. You need to be careful to keep a consistent character perspective. You can jump to different characters, but if you do it too abruptly or often, it just makes the narration jerky.

>Twilight looked thoughtful for a moment until Spike caught her eye by making worried gestures toward the slightly discouraged-looking fillies.//
Same thing, with lots of telly language to boot.

>It looked like Twilight had made short work of both the crossword and Sudoku, but hadn’t started on the word puzzle yet.//
And this appears to be in the collective viewpoint of the CMCs.

>it’ll happen on it’s own//
Its/it's confusion.

>glad for a chance to be helpful again//
And now we're back in Twilight's head.

I'll stop here, as I can see from glancing ahead, it's more of the same. The first two chapters did a much better job of showing. With maintaining perspective, too, though that pretty much happens by default, since Lily's the only character present for those. So the later chapters really need to tighten up the character perspectives and do more showing. The biggest issues with the first two chapters were some repetitiveness in word choice and action, and an abundance of "to be" verbs. They're inherently boring to read, as nothing happens. It's impractical to remove them altogether, but you ought to be looking for ways to use more active language.

If you sort these out, I'll look through the rest of the chapters in more detail.
>> No. 131311
>>131308
Thanks for the review, I'm really glad these things were finally pointed out to me. I'll go through and fix what I can. Do you want me to resubmit it after that, or should I let you know some other way that it's updated? Or do you want to know at all?

I didn't know Whisker Biscuit was an innuendo, honestly. It kind of has that sort of sound to it, so I checked before I wrote it in, but I didn't find anything then so I thought it was safe. Usually things like that are much too easy to find. But after you mentioned it, I dug a little deeper and finally found something (blegh. Thank you so much for sending me in that direction :P). So sorry for that, it was completely unintended. No one else has brought it up, so I'm still confident that the innuendo is obscure enough that it's still worth keeping. Unless you feel strongly enough about it that you think I shouldn't, of course. I still think the reasons I included it in the first place are worth the risk that some readers might read too much into it, and I don't think I could come up with anything as clever to take its place. There is a perfectly innocent archery accessory called a Whisker Biscuit, and it's about 98% of what you'd find under that name on the internet unless you're looking in places that will obviously lead you to the 2%. I only meant it as a pun name to tie together archery and baking, and I thought it was clever.
>> No. 131313
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>wobbly looking//
Hyphenate

>in crescendo of noise//
Missing word.

>with incomprehension//
How does this look? I'd rather make my own judgment than take the narrator's word for it.

>her voice way too loud for the nighttime air//
That just sounds odd. What about nighttime air makes any particular volume level appropriate? If just "nighttime," I could see it, but when you specify "air," it no longer makes sense. Does the air become more fragile after dark, for instance?

>Pinkie Pie cut her off//
This is redundant with the fact you cut off her speech with a dash. Furthermore, the fact that the narrator has time to say this before getting to what the interruption actually was undercuts the sense of suddenness..

>have to need to be doing//
Seems like you changed your mind on how to phrase that and forgot to delete one.

>relief spreading across her face//
Telly.

>Pinkie Pie’s voice turned slightly worried//
Telly.

>as she fruitlessly tried to parse Pinkie’s metaphor//
Given that Apple Bloom holds the perspective, it implies that these are word choices and phrasings that she would know in the first place and be inclined to use. It just doesn't sound like her, though.

>sisyphean//
See above. This is also a capitalized term.

>And she really should have grabbed that scarf.//
See, this is a very deep-perspective, conversational style. It sounds like the character's internal musings to herself, so it's especially important to make it sound like something she would actually think or say, word for word. Hence my point about word choices that don't match her well.

>Her sisters eyes//
Missing an apostrophe.

>And quite frankly, I’d rather be sleeping right now.//
This doesn't really sound like Apple Bloom, either.

>its due any day now//
Its/it's confusion.

>I’m pretty sure cuz can handle herself at this point.//
When used as part of the name or a replacement of it, "Cuz" would be capitalized.

>‘em//
Smart quotes always get leading apostrophes backward. Past one in from somewhere else. I'm not going to note any more of these if I find them, so make a sweep.

>sage like wisdom//
Sage-like

>Now let’s get you home, sis//
In this usage, "Sis" would be capitalized.

>nothin//
Missing apostrophe.

>high pitched//
Hyphenate.

>Her eyes rolled up into the back of her head and she promptly collapsed//
Needs a comma to separate the clauses.

>leaning onto her//
This is the fourth participial phrase in the last five sentences. You're not awful overall, but you do use them in clusters overall, and besides being repetitive in structure, they're a crutch that writers just starting to gain some experience lean on.

>her sisters weight//
Missing apostrophe.

>Apple Bloom managed to wriggle out from underneath her and Applejack slumped to the ground//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>looking confused//
Telly

>y’all should lighten up a little//
As a fully licensed southerner, I can say it's pretty rare for someone to use "y'all" as a singular.

>Sorry, Sug//
You didn't capitalize that term of endearment before, and it shouldn't be.

>yknow//
y'know

>Ain’t really get a lot of those.//
"Ain't got" or "don't get," I would expect.

>hearths warming eve//
Hearth's Warming Eve

>she paused, kicking the dirt at her hooves as if to emphasize something//
You've punctuated that like a speech attribution, but it has no speaking verb.

>“Uh..”//
One more or one fewer periods.

>sis//
Just capitalize this whenever it's used as a term of direct address.

>a serpent of chaos happened by chance upon this new world, and saw his chance to sew his own seeds of discontent//
That comma is unnecessary, and sow/sew confusion.

>Applejack sped up slightly to catch back up.//
Probably best to avoid the close repetition of "up" like this.

>Apple Bloom watch//
Verb form

>rainbow colored//
Hyphenate. And the comma just before this is a splice.

>it seemed especially embarrassing for some reason//
This doesn't quite ring true. First off, it's either embarrassing or it isn't. "Seem" shouldn't enter into it. And Apple Bloom is the perspective character. She should know why it's embarrassing. Why waffle with that "for some reason"?

>“”Mmm’sorry.”//
Extraneous quotation marks.

>her sisters neck//
Missing apostrophe. This is a consistent issue, and one that surprises me for an author this experienced.

I can't help feeling like this story is missing something. It's well-written, and the character voices are done well, except for the issue where Apple Bloom suddenly gains an advanced vocabulary and diction at times. More, though, is that there's only a weakly coherent message here. I think it would provide a lot more strength to the story to make character motivations clearer. If all you intended it to be was a sweet moment between sisters, then you have that, but a story needs some kind of change, growth, or conflict.

AJ finally lets on that she's having a hard time trying to be a mother to Apple Bloom, and I'm glad you brought that up, because it means there's something here. But we never get a picture of the full extent of that. Is she being deceptive about why she drinks? She says it's just to blow off steam, and that's not necessarily a lie. But does she drink because of the pressure of being a mother? Did she tell this tale just because it occurred to her at random, or because it's related to their mother, who is always on her mind when she gets drunk? In her state, might AJ say so explicitly? Does Apple Bloom realize any of this? If so, how does she feel about it? What does she do about it, or at least consider doing at some point in the future?

You do go into this a little, but it's so late in the story and so tangential that it left me waiting a long time to see what the point was and wondering why it was given such a light touch. Understated is definitely better than over the top, but (and this is just my opinion), I think you could benefit from a little foreshadowing early on to hint at what AJ's internal conflict is, a stronger sense that Apple Bloom understands it and starts deciding what to do about it (even if it's nothing), and whether this is a once-in-a-while or chronic source of pain for AJ. What little AJ already does say about their mother is pretty much in the sweet spot between being so vague as to pass unnoticed and exaggerated to the point of becoming maudlin. So it's more about hinting at the conflict earlier on and showing how that affects Apple Bloom, both immediately and into the future. I think you're on the verge of something special here. Yes, there are a lot of "the Apples' parents are dead" stories out there, but these ones that examine how that affects other relationships still can take a fresh angle on it. I should know—I wrote one myself.

The kinds of things I'm looking for here aren't so broad as to require a full examination of the story again, so when you're ready, select the "back from Mars" option. It'll expedite the process, since I pick up my returning stories more quickly than things in the general queue. If you disagree with what I'm suggesting here, then you have the option of discussing your position or requesting that a different pre-reader review it.
>> No. 131314
>>131311
When you're ready to resubmit, just do so the same as before. I'll take it again, which tends to expedite things a bit.

As to Whisker Biscuit, I'm an archer myself, but for those who aren't, the innuendo definition will be the one the general public is more likely to know. Or many might not know either and assume you're saying he's a baker with a beard.

Last edited at Fri, Dec 12th, 2014 23:40

>> No. 131315
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>guestroom//
Two words.

>your highness//
The honorific would be capitalized.

>princess//
As a term of address, this would be capitalized.

>of consternation//
Prepositional phrases that communicate a mood stick out like a sore thumb as being telly, and they're often redundant with information already there. In this case, it's not, but it wouldn't take much to show a couple of facial expressions to do this more effectively.

>the assembly of petitioners and nobleponies were//
Subject/verb number. assembly -> were. There is a sense in which this might work, except the behavior here is described as a collective, not individual reactions.

>their attitudes ran the gamut from nervous stoicism to emerging panic//
Besides being telly, I don't get this observation. Celestia's held the perspective, and I'm not sure why she'd note this without saying why she felt it was significant. If she didn't care, then she probably wouldn't have picked up on it, so it's odd to see her spell this out very factually without a reaction.

>steel grey//
Hyphenate.

>your Highness//
See, it's inconsistent with the last time you used it. But "Your" would also be capitalized.

>Celestia let her gaze swing out over the assembled ponies.//
This really doesn't fit with her attitude. She has a purpose to it, so she does this deliberately, yet it sounds like she's doing it despite her better judgment, like allowing her mind to wander during a meeting where she should really be paying attention.

>There was plenty of fear and confusion to be seen, but also confidence, love, and trust.//
Show me some of these. It'd have a lot more impact. A few examples is worth more than a ton of generalities.

>of calm serenity//
There you go again. It's entirely unnecessary to say this. The fact that she's trying to control her expression at all says that she wants to appear unaffected.

>Luna’s voice suddenly cut her off, ringing throughout the throne room with firm authority.//
Two things: 1. The punctuation already told me she got cut off. The narrator doen't need to reiterate. 2. The fact that the narrator has time to fit this sentence in undercuts the suddenness of the interruption. When there is one, the very next thing should be what interrupts. Anything else you wedge in there hurts the mood.

>sister//
Another word that should be capitalized as a term of address.

>Celestia rose and stepped down from the throne to meet her sister, giving her an affectionate nuzzle.//
Which one of them is giving the nuzzle? It's a misplaced modifier, as participial phrases often are, but this one is truly ambiguous. By grammatical default, Luna is doing the nuzzling, but many authors using this structure intend Celestia.

>Celestia lowered her eyes to the floor//
Have a look at the first word of the last four paragraphs.

>The changelings are less than two hours away from Canterlot, and the scouts weren’t even able to estimate how many there are; thousands for sure, and probably several times as many as they had during their assault at the wedding.//
That's not really a proper use of a semicolon. There's no independent clause after it. Perhaps a dash.

>a relieved smile//
More telliness.

>pricked their ears up with visible eagerness//
The way it's described, it's visible by default.

>Should the absolute worst-case scenario comes to pass//
Verb form typo.

At this point, I wonder if this is AU or takes place after A Canterlot Wedding. If the latter, the changelings would already know about the caves, right? Oh, okay, Luna refers to the last incident. So they aren't going to acknowledge that even though it's defensible, it's not secret?

Then Luna speaks without interruption for 5 paragraphs. Her only action before doing so is telly, and she doesn't get an action afterward. That makes it awful hard to picture this in my mind.

>issue - a//
Use a proper dash, please. There's a key at the top of this thread for how to space and produce them.

>your majesty//
You are very inconsistent in how you capitalize this. Both words should be.

>them with//
Extraneous space.

>sigh of relief//
Another unnecessary/redundant statement of emotion. At this point, suffice it to say you should look out for telly language (there's a longer discussion of "show versus tell" at the top of this thread) and the other mechanical things I've already noted multiple times.

>Luna noticed her unease.//
Fairly telly, and completely unnecessary, since you go on to describe the symptoms of it very well.

>with no one the wiser//
You repeat that exact phrase just 2 paragraphs apart.

>“But what if we leave the “bug” out of “shape-changing, love-eating, bug-ponies” for just one moment? What if we look at them as just another enemy of the state, and Chrysalis as just another queen? What does that tell us about her?”//
When you have a quotation nested inside another, the inner one(s) use single quotation marks.

>Now that we understand her at least//
Are they really that sure? At this point, it's all still conjecture.

>I already have a spell ready to record transcripts of everything spoken in the throne room and I will send copies to you at regular intervals, as well as to Twilight and Cadance.//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>Luna nodded firmly at that.//
Unless you have a first-person or third-person limited narrator, it's problematic to use demonstratives (this, that, these, those) by themselves, since they make the narration refer to itself, and thus be self-aware. You could potentially rephrase it, or you could just add an appropriate noun after it so it's not searching for a large chunk of text as an antecedent.

>sister//
Capitalize as a term of address.

>The changelings drew overhead and night fell.//
As written, you need a comma between the clauses, but I wonder if you meant "as" instead of "and."

>night fell//
You repeat this phrase in consecutive sentences without any apparent stylistic purpose in doing so.

>A drone filled the air//
Since you used "drone" earlier to refer to a type of changeling, this could be a little confusing. You use it again a little later.

>The changelings are here in even greater numbers than we thought and it has become clear that we cannot hold the city.//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

I'm interested to see where this goes. There could be a lot of reasons why Chrysalis might surrender. Subterfuge? An earnest desire for peace? If only to avoid conflict, the ponies probably would have left them alone if they kept to themselves.

In any case, the only really off putting thing here is the abundance of telly language, which isn't a particularly tough thing to fix. It might help a little to keep an undercurrent of foreboding during the princesses' light moment together to keep the story's mood going, too. As such, I won't need to give it a detailed look again; you can select the "back from Mars" option when you're ready to resubmit.
>> No. 131325
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

This may be a long enough list to seem intimidating. It really isn't. I was very thorough, and a lot of this is multiple instances of the same things. There's more of an explanation in the wrap-up comments at the end, but first, I want to make it clear that I want to see this story come back so I can post it.

>whole blocks of buildings laid dark and deserted//
Lay/lie confusion. You want "lay" here. "Laid" requires a direct object.

>Shops had cheerfully opened during the day, catering to last-minute shoppers and decorators. But their doors closed early, and their workers were retired to their own homes and parties.//
You basically already said this. In fact, the "were retired to their own homes" part is a direct repetition.

>The illusion would be ruined in a moment upon peering inside.//
I'm seeing a fair amount of passive voice already, not to the point that I'd say it's off-putting yet, but keep it in mind. Most of them would be easy to rephrase in an active manner.

>Heaven//
Why is this capitalized?

>who every pony should at least try to hang out with//
Whom. If you want to be really correct, move the "with" to the front of this phrase.

>Getting your donuts from the café frequented by, say, Fleur De Lis was far and away worth the extra cost.//
This is pretty much the identical information and phrasing you gave me to end the previous paragraph.

I'm three screens in, and it's already starting to drag on me. Here's why:

A lot of the physical description of the restaurant is irrelevant. There's some minimal amount that's necessary to set the scene, and you're far past that. Most of the rest does nothing but reinforce the point you've already made about the place looking run-down. Then we get o the descriptions of the donuts, and the narration even more starts addressing the reader as "you." This can be problematic, as it raises questions about who the narrator is, why he wants to tell me the story, what my role is, and why I want to listen. So when we even start getting dialogue from a generic cardboard cutout of a character, it just cements to me that all the opening so far has been pretty generic.

The reader is here for the characters and the plot. It's a good idea to get to one or the other quickly. There's plenty of time to work in atmosphere, particularly when it's pertinent to what's happening. So far, I have zero idea what the story is about, and absolutely nothing has happened. I've only been introduced to one character, and I barely know anything about him—only that he owns a rough-looking restaurant and is overweight. After this, we finally get into some characterization from him. It would do you well to trim the fat from this introductory section.

>business pony
Probably one word, like "businessman."

>passer-byes//
passersby

>on their way to parties//
Repetitive again. You mentioned ponies on their way to homes, parties, hotels...

>They were always long gone by the time the customers arrived.//
I'm not sure whom "they" refers to here. The ponies on their way to parties? It doesn't really make sense.

>Lightning Dust. The youngest of his regulars, and definitely the easiest on the eyes. She’d probably gotten a lot of praise for her looks, and her athletic frame showed she hadn’t taken them for granted.//
So you're going to shift into a subjective narration in Joe's perspective? This is kind of a jarring disconnect from the voice that you've used up to now, who spoke to the reader and expressed opinions about Joe's restaurant that he wouldn't hold himself.

>99%//
Write it out.

>high risk//
Hyphenate.

>her bits finally ran dry//
Repetitive with the use of "dry" earlier in the paragraph.

>She seemed mad enough to storm out//
Show me. All she's done so far is scowl, so I have no indication of her mood, except that the narrator's told me very bluntly here, but I don't get to see it.

>Rolling her eyes in the most exaggerated motion she could manage//
Why the shift into Lightning's perspective here? Joe wouldn't know what she could or couldn't manage. Honestly, I'd cut all of this phrase after "eyes."

>her sulky chewing lost to the distance//
"Lost to the distance" is kind of an awkward phrasing, and if it really is lost, how does Joe hear it?

>to never//
Swap these words.

>triggered by Gilda of all ponies//
Gilda's not a pony...

>27//
Spell it out.

>“I’m surprised to see you tonight, Blues.” Lightning offered.//
Dialogue punctuation.

>Blueblood pressed his lips//
Did you mean "pursed"?

>Yo Donut Pony!//
Needs a comma for direct address.

>’Evening//
Why the apostrophe? What letters is he skipping?

>with disinterested courtesy//
Given that you've been taking a subjective narration in Joe's viewpoint, "disinterested" is an odd comment for him to make about himself. This would get across better with an internal comment of his that shows him acting disinterested.

>less interested than he sounded//
Again, this comes across as a very external evaluation from what should be his viewpoint.

>Working with the bear claws, Joe ducked his head lower to hide his eye-roll. That was her third job this month.//
Since I've made the above comment a couple of times now, here's a spot where it's done right. It's limited to his own perceptions, intents, and opinions, and rendered in a way that sounds like his own internal monologue.

>Already, Gilda was complaining that some places were blackballing her.//
This sounds pretty repetitive with Lightning's situation.

>which led to the claw-shaped scar on his shoulder//
This begs for more. Wouldn't that make him more wary of her? Why did he just let it go, rather than call the police? Or if he did, why would he think she might do that again?

>Yo~//
~ is not proper punctuation.

>A disappointed few seconds passed.//
For whom? The narrator's with Joe, so I'd have to assume him, but he has no reason to be.

>Rent//
Why is this capitalized?

>Lost in his worries, Joe had no idea how long it was until the door opened once more.//
You're in his head. So are these worries. So why don't I get to see them? You're forcing me out of his perspective like this. And shouldn't the door opening surprise him if he wasn't paying attention.

>showmare//
Inconsistent with you spelling it as two words in the last paragraph.

>That was part of why Joe liked her. He was sorta the same, going for hard independence over safe employment.//
Seems like a colon might work better between these.

>apologized//
Would be illustrative if I could see this and her reaction.

>Thanks Joe//
Comma for direct address.

>Even the laconic Joe//
You already described him as such, and recently enough that I remember it clearly.

>gaze fixed on Joe. It was certainly a gaze//
The repetition isn't done in a way that feels deliberate or creates an effect.

>“You are ‘Joe?’” She asked//
Capitalization.

>Joe nodded, stepping back behind the counter//
Missing end punctuation.

>Very well, ‘Joe.’//
I'm not sure why she's continuing to put his name in quotes. She knows it's correct now.

>He’d been in business a decade, and heard stranger requests//
That's all one clause. You don't need the comma.

>Heaths//
Hearth's

>It couldn’t put bits in their pockets, or love in their hearts.//
All one clause. No comma.

>when all the smiling ponies were at their parties//
Enough with the parties already.

>well-matching//
In this usage, you don't need the hyphen.

>Not wanting conversation//
Another instance where an internal comment would be far more powerful than a narrative summary.

>three-hundred//
No hyphen.

>teary with fear//
The tears alone aren't going to connote fear. What else does he see? Show me that instead of just summarizing it as fear.

>“Why doesn’t she come inside?” He grumbled.//
Capitalization. You get it right when the dialogue ends in a comma, so I'm not sure why the question marks are causing you trouble.

>brow furrowed in confusion//
Another rather external assessment that should be rendered through the perspective instead.

>Pausing a moment to lock the cashbox, Joe stepped out from behind the counter.//
Note that participles synchronize actions. So he pauses at the same time he steps out. It'd more reasonably happen one after the other.

>lycanthropy//
Be careful with the big words. Using them in his perspective implies that it's a word he knows and would be inclined to use. You have to make sure that fits his characterization.

>he slammed the door behind him//
I'm surprised he does this, since he was upset about the possibility of Gilda doing so.

>With the moon occluded//
Another word choice that seems pretty highbrow for him.

>“Kid,” he said; not unkindly, but gruffly.//
Misused semicolon. There's no independent clause after it.

>He was a gruff pony//
You just said that, and there are ways you make repetition feel deliberate and meaningful. I don't see any here.

>and more tears were slowly being added to them//
That's an awkward phrasing and a pretty clunky use of passive voice.

>between a shiver//
"Between shivers," right? She can't exactly say something between only one.

>quizzically//
How does this look?

>Where’s home for you, kid?//
Look how often he's already used direct address with her. Then consider how often people actually do so in real conversations.

>in embarrassment//
Don't just tell me she's embarrassed. Make her look and act embarrassed. Par tof making a connection with a character is interpreting such cues, which makes the reader see things through her eyes for a moment. That's how we naturally read others' emotions anyway. It's much more engaging than just having the narrator sum it all up in a word or two, which short-circuits that discovery process. (First-person narrators are a notable exception, at least as far as their own emotions are concerned.)

>my class came for the big play and I//
Ooh. Sounds like Cheerilee's going to be in big trouble.

>can-“//
>even-“//
>any-“//
>she-“//
>and-“//
>Instead-“//
>to-“//
>not-“//
>sappy-“//
Use a proper dash, and note that dash use can break smart quotes. These are backward.

>approvingly//
Get at this through his commentary. Most adverbs are going to break you out of a subjective feel to the narration.

>Joe cut her off.//
You don't need to tell me this. It's already apparent from the punctuation.

>eager and young//
You already described him as young.

>Or-//
Use a dash.

>“You know if the sky chariots are running?” He blurted before giving himself a chance to reconsider.//
Capitalization.

>Lighting//
Typo. As I look ahead, you make the same one two more times, so search for this spelling.

>had pulled her chair closer to the window, and was suddenly faking a talk with Trixie.//
No comma.

>act nonchalant, but the poor act//
Watch the repetition.

>their silent interest//
You just referred to "their interest" two sentences ago.

>His whistled innocently//
Typo.

>Three-hundred//
No hyphen.

>Pastries//
Why is this capitalized?

>The bag went into his apron pocket and Joe walked slowly to the door//
Here's a case where there are separate clauses, so you do need a comma.

>Sir//
That wouldn't be capitalized unless it's a title of knighthood.

>She gave a hard, wintry cough into her forehoof and the smile grew.//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>Joe met her eyes, and finally smiled back.//
No comma.

>half-heartedly//
halfheartedly

>all’s//
That's a really odd usage. How about "everyone's"?

>thoughts were on the strange thing they had just witnessed//
How does Joe know this?

>Bringing his head back up//
Participial phrases are usually set off with a comma.

>four-hundred//
No hyphen.

>He pushed the treat across the counter to her, smiling faintly.//
You've had a number of participial phrases that were misplaced modifiers, but they weren't bad ones, so I let them go. This one is actually ambiguous, though. These phrases like to modify the nearest prior object, or if they start a clause, its subject. So the grammatical presumption is that Trixie is smiling faintly. But most authors using this construction intend for it to modify Joe. If it only makes logical sense for it to describe one of the possibilities, then it's a minor blip, but here, I can't tell which one.

>B-But//
Unless it's a word that has to be capitalized anyway, only do so with the firsst instance in a stutter.

>“”Don’t worry about it,”//
Extraneous quotation marks.

>”Filliiiiiiies and gentlecolts!” She boomed//
Capitalization, and the opening quotation marks are backward, as smart quotes sometimes do with a bbcode tag.

>sparks cackled in the air//
"Crackled," maybe?

>looking very surprised//
And what does that look like?

>An applause//
I've never seen that used as anything other that a collective noun, i.e., it doesn't take an indefinite article.

>Shrimp//
Unless it's actually a nickname she uses specifically and repeatedly for Trixie (and they haven't been suggested to have any sort of relationship where this might reasonably occur), it's just a generic term, and it wouldn't be capitalized.

>semi-circle//
semicircle

>sarcastically//
It loses its impact if you have to tell me this. It's like informing me that a joke was funny. Let what she says and how she says it deliver the sarcasm.

>ruining what little mystique Trixie had built//
How so? You've been in Joe's head, so you can't really talk to things beyond how he feels about it personally and how he sees the others act.

>why are my pants red?//
She's presenting it as dialogue, so it does need capitalization and a comma.

>WOAH//
Please don't be one of those authors who can't spell this. You got it right earlier.

>She was holding a hoof to her mouth to hide a grimace that happened to be upside-down.//
This is phrased more as her own reasons for doing so than Joe's perception of it.

>Lightning seemed curious//
What does she do to make her seem so?

>cutie-mark//
Canon doesn't hyphenate this.

>Second question, if I may: What are those?//
You typically only capitalize after a colon if what comes before it refers to multiple sentences.

>“Little experiment of mine,” Joe tilted the tray, giving everypony a better look.//
You've punctuated that like it's a speech attribution, but there's no speaking verb.

>Joe’s explanation was bashful.//
You're getting external to him again. Let this come through in how he delivers his explanation.

>“Dang,” Gilda whistled low, eyeing the portions.//
Another attribution without a speaking verb.

>two-dozen//
No hyphen.

>‘em//
Another thing that always breaks smart quotes is a leading apostrophe. This is backward. You can force one the right way by adding a second and deleting the first or by pasting one in from somewhere else.

>wheedling smile on her face//
Missing word.

>Joe said by way of answer//
Given that he was answering her, that's pretty redundant.

>The older mare gave a slight ‘hmf,’ and feigned disinterest.//
No comma.

>”Eques-TREE-uh//
Backward quotes.

>Harshwhinny grumbling about how ponies had ‘hair,’ not ‘fur,’//
Thank you!

>yawn in boredom//
The yawn already connotes boredom. Cut that prepositional phrase.

>“We need a ‘game’ game!” She clarified.//
Capitalization.

>pouted sulkily//
The "sulkily" is telly and redundant with the pouting.

>“Yo Joe, Blues,” Gilda called, grinning fearlessly. “I mean… we do got cones…”//
Is there a scene break here? There's an extra blank line, but no marker.

>The chaotic game stopped, ponies looking to his reaction//
That "to" feels awkward. And the few paragraphs around here don't have a clear perspective. You don't constantly have to chime in from the viewpoint character, but it helps to check in every few paragraphs at least.

>the food fight began in full.//
And again, is there a scene break here? There wouldn't have to be, but you've left a ton of empty space.

>as he glanced to the clock//
Another weird "to" where I would have figured an "at."

>looking at clocks//
Wait, how many are there? Joe was described as looking at "the" clock, as in the only one.

>was almost at an end//
Just a couple paragraphs ago, it was described as having already ended.

>Y-You//
Only capitalize the first.

>Joe could charge him for the trays they ate, and return the rest.//
No comma.

>closest her ever came//
Typo

>He shouldered the door open without breaking stride, and was gone the next moment.//
No comma.

>“And I want you to kiss me!” She blurted//
Capitalization.

>Moron//
Why is this capitalized?

>and-//
Use a dash.

>“That is…” he lowered the hoof and coughed to the side//
Capitalization.

>hastily-formed//
You don't need a hyphen in two-word phrases beginning with an -ly adverb.

>Woah//
Dammit

>his own confidence growing//
>And in his face, she saw that mean smirk return.//
See the perspective switch? It's a short enough scene that there's really no reason to wander out of a single viewpoint. And why is the whole thing in italics? That just gets annoying to read. They're generally used for presenting flashbacks, dreams, or written material. It took me a while to realize this wasn't just something Joe was imagining. It'll be clear what's going off, since this appears to be set off as a separate scene. I'd encourage you to use the bbcode [hr] as a scene marker. instead of the varying number of blank lines you have now.

>with apprehension//
Show it.

>Trixie was picking lazily at her pretzel bun and Harshwhinny was simply sitting back in her chair//
Comma between the clauses.

>well-familiar//
No hyphen.

>they know who to blame//
"Whom," if you figure she's the kind of character who would know that. I do.

>the brain behind them hardly daring to hope//
(this is Trixie)
>amused that the stern mare seemed so dense//
(this is Lightning)
Another jarring perspective shift.

>Sapphire Shore’s//
Her name is Sapphire Shores, so it might affect how you want to handle the apostrophe.

>Life//
Why is this capitalized?

>For Trixie and Lightning, of course, it wasn’t chickenfeed. It was more money than they’d ever seen in their lives, and it took another few dumbstruck seconds before they realized it was walking away.//
For my money (heh), you could cut this entire paragraph. It's rather blunt, and what's around it already gives that impression.

>WAIT!//
Italics are preferred over all caps or bold for emphasis.

>merrily-thrown//
No hyphen.

>Schnapps//
lower case
>> No. 131326
Okay, wrap-up time. I get that he realizes Celestia's involvement, but thank her for what? Giving the opportunity or the encouragement to do something good? Or that she somehow motivated Blueblood to pay him all that money?

I know this looks like a lot. Really, it isn't. It's a bunch of instances of a small number of problems noted over and over. I've pointed them all out and said exactly how to fix them. The bulk of this will be no more than an editing pass. I've tried to remove the pain as much as possible, because I like this story and want to expedite it to get posted by Christmas if I can. That part's up to you. If you can get it fixed up within the next few days, it'll probably happen.

The only things that will take a bit of thought to work out are these: the instances of telly language, the jumping perspectives, and the mismatched opening scene. Really, that last one is the only one that'll take much thought. If you'd had a narrator break in with that tone throughout the story, it'd work, but it just sticks out like a sore thumb as is. You could easily convey the same information in a style more in keeping with the rest of the story.

For reference, there's a little more information at the top of this thread on some of the topics I've brought up. Specifically, I'd point you to the sections on dialogue punctuation/capitalization, comma use with conjunctions, and head hopping.

The last thing I'll add is that this story uses a lot of "to be" verbs. They're inherently boring. It's much more interesting to read about things that happen, not that just are. Of the easier forms to search on, I counted 352 in the story, which is a rate of about one every other sentence. You'd really benefit from making more active verb choices. This can work even when there's not actually any motion, as in "He sat there" versus "He was there." One helps keep the story moving. The other brings the action to a halt. Now, it didn't grate on me too badly, except in a couple of places where I encountered clumps of them, so in the interest of time, I'll just ask you to consider swapping a few out when you encounter them in passages you're working on anyway. I won't make you scour the whole story for them, unless you want to. Just keep it in mind for your future writing.

Hope to see this story come back soon!
>> No. 131354
>>131313

Thanks for taking the time to review and point out errors.

Ultimately, this is my fault for getting impatient with my editor's tardiness and thinking I was okay to jump the gun without him. I've learned my lesson. (Though he still hasn't, lazy bastard. (He's my brother, I wouldn't be so mean to a regular editor. :P))

He's finally gotten around to editing it now, and I've gone and implemented most of the grammatical changes as well. I'll likely submit it later today, after figuring out if there's any story stuff I can change easily.

Ultimately, I was trying to capture two different feelings from this fic. From Apple Bloom's perspective, the frustration of being a kid and having to deal with a drunk adult who you normally trust and rely on, and it puts you in the weird position where you suddenly have to be the mature one.

From Applejack's level, she's hit that level of drunkenness where you suddenly really, really have some idea or thought or something you want to convey and it seems like the most important thing in the world all, but inebriation leaves her unable to properly get her point across.

The story is ultimately nonsense, just something cute AJ's mom made up in order to entertain her. To Applejack, it's a vague memory of warmth and safety and an ultimate trust in someone above her and an assurance that everything will always be okay. But she has absolutely no idea how to convey that message and feeling to Apple Bloom.

There's a bit of subtle foreshadowing in the fic already: Pinkie is worried when Apple Bloom mentions family troubles, Granny is making a big issue out of a routine pregnancy and "you know how she gets", Applejack's story in general is very maternal and apple focused.

Apple Bloom doesn't pick up on any of it until the end because she's grumpy and is focused on her own problems / annoyance at having to deal with Applejack as she is. Applejack's doing a terrible job of it, but she's trying to reach out to Apple Bloom and Apple Bloom isn't really listening.

Anyway, those are just my own thoughts on the story and what I was trying to accomplish while writing it. Maybe I should have tried doing it drunk. :3

Thanks again for the input,

-Oroboro
>> No. 131404
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>had ran//
had run

>"..." he continued.//
That may cut it in video game dialogue, but not here. Describe what he's doing instead of giving me a blank.

>he'd never lain a hoof on her//
You need "laid." there. "Lain" is intransitive.

>It's about..." Here Inkie made a sweeping gesture to encompass the living room, the farmhouse, and presumably, all that lay beyond. "...this."//
This is the standard way to to a narrative aside in a quote:
It's about—" here Inkie made a sweeping gesture to encompass the living room, the farmhouse, and presumably, all that lay beyond "—this."
in the cae where she stops speaking for the action, or:
It's about"—here Inkie made a sweeping gesture to encompass the living room, the farmhouse, and presumably, all that lay beyond—"this."
if she doesn't.

>A pained expression//
>Inkie asked incredulously//
>Looking bewildered//
You did alright in the early going, but here, I'm hitting a number of spots where the emotional imformation is pretty telly at a time where it's pretty important to the plot. This pops up intermittently, so keep an eye out for it.

>Father tried to ignore them, but he could feel Blinkie's eyes on the back of his head.//
Why are you shifting over to his perspective here? This is information only he could know, but the whole things had been from Inkie's viewpoint so far.

>For awhile//
In a usage like this, where a noun is required, you need "a while" to be two words.

>She didn't look uncomfortable with her sister's affection, just embarrassed, as if someone had just told a rather personal story about her at some kind of get-together.//
You have a nice image there, so why preface it with redundant telliness?

>a life of it's own//
Its/it's confusion.

>her future hanged in the balance//
"Hanged" is an execution method. You want "hung."

>As the hour wore on, Pinkie, quite without realizing it, gave in to her basest instinct and engaged Inkie and Skyline in conversation.//
Right around here, your perspective is wavering back and forth between several characters.

>this―" He gestured to the hexagram. "―is//
As before, you don't need to capitalize or use a period with the aside.

>Mother knew he had a dual personality, but it'd been so long since she'd seen this side of him that she'd wondered if he still had it.//
This is really coming out of nowhere.

>Meanwhile, Inkie and Skyline were taking advantage of their alone time.//
This is kind of a misplaced paragraph. It doesn't go with what's around it.

>lapse into grammatical correctness//
But... what she said wasn't grammatically correct.

>This was, in fact, for what she'd been waiting.//
The perspective is wavering a lot here.

>Pinkie laying next to her//
Lay/lie confusion.

>Inkie must have gotten up early and went in search of food.//
Verb agreement: must have went.

>Blinkie smiled. They made a cute couple, all the cuter for their insistence on denying their mutual interest. They weren't fooling anypony, least of all each other.//
This relationship is seeming rather forced. There's been no basis for it; they just conveniently liked each other. The pacing's getting realy slow about now, too. They're on this journey, and I have no sense that it should be a particularly long or arduous one, yet we're spending a lot of time on it, and nothing that interesting is happening. It's not moving the plot forward any.

>group, she'd caught a group//
Watch the close repetition.

>Black spots filled his vision.//
And yet another change of perspective.

>Inkie arrived on the scene and dropped the questionable edibles she'd collected.//
That's an entire paragraph that says nothing. So she's there. What does she do? If there's no function for her, then wait until there is one.

>a half-circle of bloody punctures marked where the wolf's fangs had been.//
There are only four fangs, two top and two bottom. They wouldn't form a semicircle.

>Ten minutes of tense, amateurish fumbling later, they managed, miraculously, to set the bone and stem the bleeding without making things considerably worse.//
That's rather bland. I can't see it passing that uneventfully, especially for Skyline.

>It hadn't attack//
Verb form.

>As they walked with their backs to the portal, only Granny was aware of the two tiny figures that scaled down from it on an improbable length of rope.//
How does this relate to what's going on? It comes out of nowhere. And I'm not sure how you classify a length of rope as "improbable."

>archeology//
archaeology

>It certainly felt that way, what with the sedative spell Granny had cast on him still wearing off.//
How does he know who Granny is? This is in his perspective. Indeed, just a little later, we get this:
>Somepony called Granny―his caretaker, presumably―had written it.//
So he doesn't know. Watch the perspective and what he could reasonably know or perceive.

>descendents//
descendants

>Pinkie, the only living pony to have left the rock farm//
I take it this was written pre-Maud?

>longer lived//
Hyphenate.

>swathe//
The noun definitions of this aren't quite what you want. Try "swath."

>Western Equestria, including such sights as Appleloosa, the Castle of the Two Sisters in the Everfree Forest, Ponyville, and through the mists of Cloudsdale, Galloping Gorge and the rock farm.//
And I'm guessing this isn't supposed to agree with the published map of Equestria?

>Luna seemed to be in a similar predicament. Her wings ruffled, and she didn't seem//
Watch the close repetition.

>In cognito//
incognito

>if she had to live on a mountainside, she wanted to liven the place up a bit//
So is this park in Canterlot? I'm confused. I thought Blinkie was underground with the rest of her family.

I have to be honest—I don't see the point of this aside scene with Luna. The only plot element it develops is Blinkie's guilt about killing the wolf, but it doesn't tread any new ground there.

>She hadn't wanted to cause a panic, so she'd instructed one guard to escort them to the botanical gardens and the other to wake her sister and have her keep an eye on them.//
Okay, but that was a long time to keep me waiting for an answer, and I can't fathom why you'd want to withhold that information. It's not like it's some big reveal.

>The bits and pieces she'd picked up from her staff had lead her to the bathhouse.//
>A butterfly with pastel blue-and-yellow wings lead her eyes//
>and lead her away//
>She lead him inside//
The past tense of "lead" is "led."

>bath? "//
Extraneous space.

>For awhile//
Another usage where "a while" needs to be two words.

First off, this was an interesting idea and a pretty well-written story. The two biggest issues for me were the amount of telly language and the sometimes constant shifts in perspective. That last one could be mitigated somewhat if you decided to keep it in an omniscient narration, but even then, giving a new viewpoint in every successive paragraph, as you do at times, is too much. On these two points, there are short discussions on "show versus tell" and "head hopping" at the top of this thread.

There are several scenes that seemed entirely extraneous, and the story really dragged during the journey underground, as I noted, because the pacing had slowed to a crawl, and it wasn't apparent that anything meaningful was happening.

Maybe this was done on purpose, but there didn't seem to be very distinct personalities for Blinkie and Inkie, aside from a single defining characteristic of each. After the story, I couldn't really describe either of them beyond that. Even Pinkie didn't often act like I'd expect her to from canon.

Finally, you have a tendency to work up to a moment through dialogue exchanges, but then once that moment finally arrives, present it after the fact as a narrative summary. It's a strange way of going about it, and it tends to disarm the scene's power.
>> No. 131412
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>particularly as I was there attending a weather conference for said problems//
Keep your character voicing in mind. This really doesn't sound like a phrasing Dash would use.

Then in the second paragraph alone, you have seven "to be" verbs. These are inherently boring verbs. Nothing happens. At the beginning of the story is where you need to grab the reader's interest, and having a bunch of static verbs won't help. You need to be choosing more active verbs.

>I was far enough that they wouldn't notice me//
You pretty much already said this.

>with my lithe and athletic body//
An odd off-topic observation for her to make. Wouldn't she be focused on following the girls?

>lil'//
li'l. There's at least one instance of this in chapter 2 as well.

>Sweetie Belle chuckled weakly and I couldn't help but chuckle with her, stifling it with a hoof.//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>“What are you doing here Rainbow Dash?!”//
Needs a comma for direct address. This is a recurring issue.

>eyes opening wide in shock//
>Confused//
>exasperated look//
These are just a few examples, but there is a lot of telly language in here. You get some leeway for a first-person narrator, especially when describing her own emotions, but you ought to focud on the evidence more than the conclusions. Don't tell me that Apple Bloom is exasperated; show me how she acts and appears such that I'll infer her exasperation. She's your actress. An actress doesn't just walk out on stage and name her emotions. She gets you to figure them out, which puts the audience in her perspective and gets them to identify with her. The biggest things to watch for are outright naming emotions (happy), adverb form (sadly), and prepositional phrase form (in excitement).

>the lie clear as the noonday sun//
>a clear sign of giving up//
You don't need to over-explain things. This was already evident from the description of her. Give your readers some room to figure these things out on their own.

>the meaning on my question//
of

>Regretfully//
This seems to speak to Dash's attitude about it more than Apple Bloom's.

>We had came//
Verb form.

>last minute//
Hyphenate.

>more-than-slightly//
You don't need those hyphens.

>She put her exhausted sewing supplies back into a small box and then put that into a pair of saddlebags//
She put one box into multiple saddlebags?

>thirty minute//
Hyphenate.

>The amount of upper-class ponies//
"Amount" is for collective quantities. You want "number."

>high class//
Hyphenate.

>Two night guards parted the gold curtains and Princess Luna stepped through, quietly sitting down in one of the two seats.//
Needs a comma between the clauses. Also note that participles imply concurrent action, so Luna sits down at the same time she steps through the curtains, while those two things would more reasonably happen in sequence.

>imposter//
impostor

>His horn lit up and I felt a tingle running through my body.//
Needs a comma between the clauses. And what exactly is he checking for? Does Dash know? If so, wouldn't she say? If not, wouldn't this surprise her?

>causing me to breath in relief.//
Breathe. And notice how often you've been using these participial phrases lately. This is the ninth sentence out of the last twenty that contains one. When you keep repeating more unusual structures like that it gets the writing in a rut.

>Her mouth formed a small “o” of shock, turning around to the guards.//
This explicitly says that her mouth turned around to the guards.

>She in turn gave it to me and I stared at the front cover.//
>Her horn lit up and I felt a fuzzy feeling go over me.//
Comma between the clauses.

>I huge grin//
Typo.

>Woah//
Why is it that so few authors can spell this right? Whoa.

>the lights in the room turned off completely, leaving all the light in the room on the stage//
This is repetitively phrased and somewhat contradictory.

>There is four acts//
Number agreement.

>The curtain's opened again//
Why is that apostrophe there?

>theme//
Given how much ignorance she has about ballet in general, I wonder how she knows this term. For that matter, Luna referred to a "ballad" earlier—are you sure you didn't mean ballet? I know my classical music, but I don't know much technical language about dance, and that may just be a term I haven't heard in this context before.

>it really was just that stunning//
This deserves to be expressed more. She's spending a lot of time here giving a factual description of Scootaloo's outfit, but what's her emotional response? That's what will capture the reader's interest. Invest the description of it with more of what Dash thinks about it and how she reacts to it.

>Did swans have tails?//
Someone so accustomed to flight wouldn't know this?

>pirouetting//
See earlier comments about how she'd know any technical lingo about ballet and how there's some word choice in here that seems too advanced for her anyway.

>bring a smile to her face//
Verb form.

>amazing as she was, started to falter a little. But anyone that noticed waved it away, too preoccupied with the amazing//
Watch the close repetition of words.

Let me say that this part of the story is doing a noticeably better job of getting at how Dash feels about the performance. She's making lots of statements grounded deeply in her perspective about what impresses and entertains her. Do a bit more like this when Scootaloo first comes out on stage, since that's when Dash would be most surprised. A lot of this description here, too, isn't naming the emotions directly, but implying them through Dash's reaction. It's easier to do so in this case, since it's internal to her, but basically you've hit the sweet spot in this section, so keep that up throughout.

>I was itching to be off//
A little repetitive with how she described herself just a few paragraphs ago.

>they would have fallen on their face//
faces

>blowing over the velvet rope//
Just used that verb in the last paragraph.

>hug slash tackle//
It's a modern oddity, so I don't know if there's a rule for this, but personally, I'd probably hyphenate this.

>laying in the hallway//
Lay/lie confusion.

>A smile reached her face and she turned to the rest of the watching ponies.//
>I complied and she sat up//
>Her voice startled me into action and I went over to her//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>She ruffled them, spreading her feathers and breathing a sigh of relief.//
The last seven narrative sentences in a row all have this <main clause>, <participial phrase> structure. One of them even has a second participial phrase. Mix it up a bit better. This is a structure that writers with moderate experience tend to abuse.

>my calm appearance starting to give way to the freak-out I was having inside.//
You've punctuated this like it's a speech tag, but it has no speaking verb.

>Her face lit up and she stood a bit taller//
Comma between the clauses.

>But,” I paused and stared at her pointedly and waited till she met my gaze, “If//
Looks like you want to do a narrative aside. Here's how:
But—” I stared at her pointedly and waited till she met my gaze “—if
The pause is unnecessary, as it's already implied by the placement of the dashes (they go with the aside, outside the quotes, if there is no break in the speech).

>Quite a few ponies have wanted to come by and see the star, is that okay?//
Comma splice.

>Three, did you realize yet that your wings being underdeveloped is probably due to ballet?//
Wouldn't this be a common problem then? It might be tricky to fit this with what's come up on the subject in canon.

>much to my dad's displeasure//
This sounds rather formal and advanced for Scootaloo to say.

>Manehatten//
You spelled it Manehattan in chapter 1, didn't you?

>point,” she paused and flapped her wings a little, “I//
Use the way I showed you earlier to do an aside, and like that one, you won't need to narrate the pause.

>pausing//
You're using this verb a lot lately.

>followed by Apple Bloom and Sweetie. They followed//
Watch the repetition.

>I headed to the exit, opening it and flying out into the cool Manehattan air//
Synchronization again. This says she flies to the exit, opens it, and flies out, all at the same time.

>raising her hooves in happiness//
This is the first big lapse in being telly I've seen since early in the chapter.

This is a very cute story with just enough of a change (Dash's and Scootaloo's attitudes about each other and ballet) to create a story arc and some tension. There are some common topics discussed at the top of this thread. I'd encourage you to look at the ones under "show versus tell" and "comma use with conjunctions." Also make sure you go through and fix all the places where there need to be commas for direct address.

This may seem like a lot, but really, these aren't big things to fix. I doubt it'll take you long. The only things that'll take some thought are these:

As I described, make sure you don't lose sight of relating Dash's emotional state. Don't fall into the trap of listing only events and facts. Let her personalize it. And make sure to keep the character voicings consistent, particularly for Dash, since as the narrator, she gets a lot of speaking time. You need to make sure you don't have them use words, phrasings, or speaking mannerisms that don't fit their personalities or intelligence levels. This didn't happen a lot, so I pretty much pointed out each time it bugged me.

I hope to see this back so I can post it on the blog! When you're ready to resubmit, select the "back from Mars" option.

Last edited at Tue, Dec 30th, 2014 00:03

>> No. 131415
>>131313
>>131354

Posting this here, since not sure where else to put it.

Went ahead and fixed most of the traditional issues you pointed out. At least one of them was just a flub where fimfic ate a line from google docs, but oh well.


>>unable to keep the annoyance from her tone//
>This is telly, but it's not even necessary. What she says and the choice of "muttered" already connotes annoyance.

While I ended up rewording this sentence a bit, the point isn't to show that Apple Bloom is annoyed. It's to show that Apple Bloom is consciously annoyed, trying to keep it from showing, and failing. There's a subtle difference. =P

As for the actual story stuff, I went ahead and added a few extra paragraphs at the end exploring Apple Bloom's thoughts on the matter.

Here's the link to the Gdoc version. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-Szi3TuINheX02-f0sjddxDPs9cUu-uVVETALPfoRys/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks for the commentary again.
>> No. 131417
>>131415
I'll have a look at this today. Check back for a reply.
>> No. 131418
>>131415
>‘em//
>‘cause//
>‘M’sorry//
Missed a couple of the backward apostrophes. And that last one is inconsistent with the way you spelled it without the first apostrophe later:
>M’sorry//

>It wasn’t like she resented her sister for enjoying herself with her friends, she was just feeling a little grumpy at the circumstances that had required her to trudge her way all the way into town from Sweet Apple Acres at a time when she would normally be in bed.//
That's still a comma splice.

Now you've got something that has AB acknowledge what AJ's problem is and even try to give her an easy time of it the next morning. That's good. It shows that she's concerned about it and wants to help. The last bit is that the way she says she'll do it, she'll have no way of knowing whether AJ will understand what she's doing. AJ's asleep, and so hasn't heard what AB says in the last line. And she's not likely to intuit why AB helps her out in the morning and attempts to cook like their mother. You've indicated now that AB does want to comfort her sister, so wouldn't she make sure to do it in a way that AJ realizes it? As long as she's going to the trouble to make that gesture, and because she genuinely feels bad that this causes AJ that much pain, wouldn't she plan to tell her that explicitly?
>> No. 131420
>>131418

At this point, I think suggestions like that are a little bit beyond the scope of this fic. Apple Bloom recognizes that Applejack cares a lot about her and her happiness, and resolves to do something nice for her in return. I don't think it matters whether or not Applejack knows the explicit reasoning behind her sisters actions. Apple Bloom loves her sister, and Applejack will at least be able to see that much.

(The pie will probably be a disaster, but hey, she's just a kid.)
>> No. 131421
>>131420
I'm getting more at Apple Bloom's state of mind. She realizes now that this is something that causes Applejack pain, and she's decided that she's going to make a gesture to address it. But she has to know that Applejack isn't going to remember what Apple Bloom does this night and is unlikely to read any significance into Apple Bloom's plans for the next day beyond a simple expression of affection.

So to put it simply, she knows what the problem is and how to address it, but she's not going to go about it in a way that will actually do anything to alleviate that pain? Isn't that rather cruel and insensitive of her? And all it'd take is some intent on her part to tell Applejack she's been a good mother or some such once she sobers up. That would bring a much stronger closure to the story's conflict, too.

I also still don't get much of a sense if this is something Apple Bloom's seen before, though the signs are leaning a little toward saying it is. In that case, maybe she instead reveals that she's tried directly addressing it before, but Applejack always relapses into worrying about it again. Or if not, then Apple Bloom would be surprised by the revelation.

Apple Bloom behaves rationally enough during the course of this specific evening; it's what it implies for her beyond these events that's unclear. And that's the difference between a series of scenes and a story. It sets up a conflict, but the one way it resolves it leaves Apple Bloom looking pretty heartless.
>> No. 131469
>>131421

Hmm.

I've been putting this on the backburner for awhile now. I didn't quite agree with your interpretation of events, and wasn't quite sure how to approach the issue.

So stepping back and coming back later with a fresh mind is often a good approach. If not a quick one.

>Applejack would be a right wreck in the morning, so Apple Bloom figured she’d cancel her crusading plans to help her out a bit. Make her breakfast, and maybe ask her more about the story. Maybe she could even get her cutie mark that way! She didn’t know what her Mom’s apple pie had tasted like, but there was bound to be a family recipe book around somewhere, right?

Think that's enough to add what you think is missing?
>> No. 131472
>>131469
Maybe I'm not understanding what's upsetting Applejack. If it's just that she misses her mother, then there's not a lot here to distinguish it from a whole lot of other stories. If it's that Applejack feels like she hasn't lived up to their mother's example in raising Apple Bloom, then there's something more original here, and that's what I assumed.

So working from that, Applejack's said as much to Apple Bloom. So Apple Bloom would want to do something to reassure Applejack that she has done a good job, right? So far, so good.

What does Apple Bloom do to reassure her, though? First she speaks that final line. Applejack's already fallen asleep, so Apple Bloom must know she didn't hear it. Even if she did, she's unlikely to remember it in the morning, so there will be no lasting effect of her words, and Apple Bloom should know that.

You'd also added a bit where Apple Bloom wants to cook her mother's apple pie recipe the next day. It must be something they do from time to time anyway, so what's to distinguish this one? It's one thing to say that Applejack might take some comfort in enjoying something of their mother's, but it's quite another to say she'll make the leap of figuring out Apple Bloom did it as a way of reassuring her that she's been a good mother. Again, there will be no lasting effect from this, and Apple Bloom should know that.

Wouldn't Apple Bloom do something in a way that Applejack is sure to understand, and while Applejack is in a state of mind where she'll remember it? It's a subtle difference, but a powerful one. It's the difference between her resolving to serve Applejack a slice of pie with a smile, and her resolving to serve Applejack a slice of pie with a hug and a message of thanks for being the mother that she needed.

Restricting her acknowledgment to ways that Applejack is likely to forget or miss the significance of seems irresponsible, and deliberately so.
>> No. 131474
>>131472

>Make her breakfast, and maybe ask her more about the story.

Was the important addition to the bit I quoted, saying she'll ask Applejack more about the story in the morning.

In a more general sense...

Applejack is drunk. She's in a state where suddenly something that would normally pretty irrelevant and silly feels like the most important goddamn thing in the world right now, and it's a matter of life or death that she convey this feeling to others right away.

In this case, it was a silly bedtime story her mother had told her to make her feel better. It was some thing where hearing it made her feel safe and happy. In her drunken state, she wants to be able to convey these same feelings towards Apple Bloom.

Applejack fails horribly in communicating her message, (And Apple Bloom isn't really listening besides), and she gets frustrated.

By the time she throws up, her lucidity is all but gone, leaving behind only the frustration and the general anxieties and worries that what she does will never be as good as if her mom had been the one doing it. Compounded at her seeming failure at telling a simple story.

Anyway, that's where Applejack is coming from with this.
>> No. 131481
>>131474
So Applejack's not actually broken up about any of this? It was just the rambling of a sentimental drunk? If so, that'd be disappointing. That's what was giving the story some conflict. Apple Bloom doesn't wave it off as inconsequential, even in your original version. Absent some form of conflict, it's just a vignette where Apple Bloom walks her drunk sister home. What point does it make then? What have I learned about the characters, what's different about my perception of them as a result of reading this? A story should be about change, or else it's just a scene that doesn't lead anywhere. What's my takeaway? I come into the story with knowledge of canon Equestria. What do you want me to know about that world or its characters that's different after I read it?
>> No. 131482
>>131481
Going into this, there are two major themes I was working with.

One, as already mentioned, is to capture the general frustration of being a child and having to deal with drunk adults.

The second (Which is a theme I work with often in other stories, but) is about communicating a message through the medium of storytelling. The message in this case is a simple "I love you and will always be watching out for you."

Like a drunken game of telephone, the end result doesn't come through correctly. It takes Applejack letting the source of message slip for it to finally click with Apple Bloom, so she resolves to return that message in her own way.

We also learn that AppleMom was probably a bit of a troll.
>> No. 131487
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Also note that there's a link to the Editor's Omnibus at the end of the first post. It has a lot of reference material as well as links to reviewing groups who can help you with your story, if you need further assistance.

I see you're relatively new at this, and one of the other pre-readers took a liking to the story's concept, so I figured I'd give you some detailed feedback. You never know who might be among the next batch of good writers, so I might as well help a few to hit the ground running.

Synopsis:
>On the wedding day of Spike and Sweetie Belle they go through the memories that brought them to this day. Will their most precious memories help them with the wedding day jitters?//
For the most part, you want to avoid using the same word or phrase in a close space, unless the repetition is done intentionally and to create an effect. In that case, it needs to be obvious that the repetition is deliberate. Here, you've used "memories" in both sentences without any apparent effect to doing so. Also note that it's pretty cliched to ask an unanswered rhetorical question in the synopsis, especially as the last sentence. It's also a somewhat clunky structure to use an indirect possession like this. As compared to "the wedding day of Spike and Sweetie Belle," "Spike and Sweetie Belle's wedding day" is a little more concise and direct, and it also has a more active feel to it.

Story:
>Spike//
You don't need to identify the focus character of each scene like this. The reader will soon get the feel that you're switching back and forth. If you've created distinctive enough voices for each character, you won't have to do this anyway, since the reader will pick it up by feel. That said, I think it probably wasn't the right choice to go with a first-person narrator if you're going to be switching viewpoints. Third-person limited, where the narrator stays with one character at a time and can speak that character's thoughts and impression for her, gives you much the sme flexibility and personal voice, yet is much easier to switch viewpoints.

>Alright stallions!//
Whenever one character addresses another by name, title, or reference, set it off with a comma. Or commas on both sides, if it's in the middle of the sentence. So you need a comma here. Keep an eye for this throughout. I'm not going to mark any more.

>*CRASH*//
It's considered improper to use sound effects in narration like this. Just describe the sound.

>Rarity sighed as she ran past me to take care of the bride’s dress.//
Contrast that with this:
>The pony most worried would probably be my ex-crush Rarity.//
This gets at a concept you'll hear a lot in writing: show versus tell. Your characters are actors in a movie playing in my head. The narration is a voice-over. Now, does an actor come out with a straight face and announce that he's sad? No, he gets his audience to figure out he's sad by how he looks, how he acts, and what he says in conversation. Similarly, imply his emotions to the reader through similar things, like facial expression and body language. There's a brief discussion of this in the "show versus tell" section at the top of this thread. In the first sentence, you do a good job of giving me only the raw evidence, the things a witness could cite as fact. But behind those words, the sigh implies some dissatisfaction or stress, and the running makes it clear she's in a hurry. You've said all that without saying it. In the second, you just tell me Rarity is worried. I know it as a fact now, but it's less real to me since I'm taking the narrator's word for it instead of figuring it out myself. By the way, you'd need to set that "Rarity" off with a comma. It's a structure called an appositive, which is where you've already named something or someone (ex-crush) and are naming it again in a different way or as an explanation (Rarity).

>I can’t… Breath!//
You want the verb form, "breathe." And you don't need to capitalize it, since it makes grammatical sense as a continuation of the suspended sentence. It doesn't necessitate beginning a new one.

Now, these scenes could stand to be considerably longer. It's jarring to whip back and for the between them so quickly. There are probably a few places where you could combine several of them into one, but it does look like a lot of them have time or setting skips that do warrant being separate scenes. They're just not long enough for the reader to get settled in them, though. Let me see some more detail about the room they're in, the objects that see, what little actions they take. These are the types of details that really add life to a scene.

>What do I tell you?” She said as she let the corset go slack.//
There's a section up top about capitalization and punctuation of dialogue. It looks like you're consistently missing how to do that.

>Rarity said as she cracked open the make-up case.//
See, there's not much beyond the dialogue in a lot of these scenes. Don't throw in details just for the sake of it, but it's not hard to make things relevant. For instance, say Sweetie Belle describes the carved wooden frame of the mirror she's facing. If you mention that out of the blue, it's pointless. But if you have her concentrating on it to distract herself from the corset that feels like it's about to make her pop, then you've made a reason for it to be relevant.

>I grumbled as I extended a claw to pull on my collar.//
The last four sentences in a row have an "as" clause. When you fall into structural repetition like that (simple and compound sentences generally get excused, mostly, because they're so common), it makes the story seem like reading a list.

>Twilight expressed//
You're using a lot of unusual speaking verbs. There's a section up top on saidisms which puts forth the rationale behind minimizing this.

>I smiled as I waved to her.//
These are short scenes, and yet you've used nine "as" clauses in this one alone.

>handy work//
handiwork

>As I turned my head to see who Rarity was talking to//
This is a dependent clause. You'll usually set these off with a comma. Why is there a blank line after this? Look how nearly every one of your paragraphs is a single line. That tells me that you're skimping on how much the characters would actually say, what actions they take, and what descriptions the narrator gives.

>I had never seen Scoots so happy in my life.//
Again, an example or illustrative anecdote would be far more powerful than simply having the narrator inform me she was happy.

>Ever since she started dating Diamond Tiara//
You have to be careful when introducing elements like this that obviously have quite a story behind them when you have no intention of actually telling that story. They're cheap teases.

>surprising everyone//
Set off participial phrases with a comma.

>Thanks mister//
The ring bearer is someone who doesn't even know Spike well enough to call him by name?

>his Bride-to-be//
Why is that capitalized? And whom does "his" refer to? Are you sure you didn't mean "my"?

>averted her eyes away from him//
This is redundant. That's what averting means.

>blushing//
There are four instances of blushing in this scene.

>to much//
too

There's really no need to render the entire scene in italics. They're used to make a subset of things stand out, not something in its entirety. If you write it well, the reader will quickly pick up that it's a flashback from clues about the characters or events.

>She was nervous.//
>He was nervous.//
These appear only one paragraph apart.

>As Spike ran around grabbing things that Rarity asked for, he realized exactly what he was doing.//
See how vague that is? What does Rarity ask him to do? How does he go about doing it? How does he feel as this all happens? There's so much that gets glossed over.

>Twilights//
Missing apostrophe.

>Sweeties fore hooves//
Sweetie's forehooves

>Twilight flew down towards Sweetie Belle scaring her greatly.//
Here's a presentation problem. This isn't done as a flashback in a very general sense. It's one specifically cued by Spike thinking back on the event. But these are things he couldn't know. He wasn't there. He wouldn't know what happened at these other places or how Sweetie Belle felt about it. He can't speak to things he doesn't know. Either you'd have to limit yourself to what he witnessed and summarize what he learned about what he didn't witness, or you'd need to make this a more general type of flashback that's not tied to his perspective.

>The unicorn//
More and more lately, you've been referring to characters in this manner. There's a section on Lavender Unicorn Syndrome that explains why it's usually a bad idea.

>said through breathes//
I assume you meant "breaths," but that's awkwardly phrased and very vague.

>When yall get back//
Set off the dependent clause with a comma, and it's "y'all."

>I’m he-//
There's a section up top on proper dash usage.

>I’m the one that the letter is for//
That sounds very formal and forced, which is the wrong mood for the situation.

>4//
Write out numbers that small.

>I love you with all my heart, you changed my life just by being in it.//
That's a comma splice.

>At this point//
This kind of phrasing, in which the narration refers to itself, is a bad idea in anything but a very subjective narrator.

>But she gave him all the answer he need.//
Typo.

>“I hope you lik-.“//
You don't use a period with a dash, and notice how it can make the smart quotes go in the wrong direction. You may have to paste in closing quotes from somewhere else.

>They heard a loud cheer coming from the clouds.//
Why would they all be watching? That's pretty creepy.

>As I smiled at this memory//
Needs a comma for the dependent clause, but the flashbacks were introduced as Spike's reminiscence. This is really muddying the waters of perspective.

>moment is what caused the moment//
Watch the repetition.

>Do you Sweetie Belle, take Spike the Dragon to be your lawfully wedded husband, to have and to hold, in rich and poor, in sickness and in health, for as long as you both shall live.//
Missing a comma before "Sweetie Belle," and it's a question, isn't it?

>The love they shared would last centuries//
Will it? Maybe in Spike's memory, but she won't live that long, unless you're doing something to change that.

You also need to give some thought as to what you want this story to say. So far, it's just that everything worked out, from start to finish. There are no obstacles to overcome, no conflict to resolve. Stories are about change. I call it my "before and after" test. If I look at the world, either as a whole or focused on a single character, at the beginning and ending states of the story, what has changed as a result of the story's events? Is there a shift in how the world works? Has a character come to an important realization? Do I learn something new about a character that makes me see her in a new light?

There are lots of ways you can incorporate change into a story. The closest thing you have is Spike's evolution of feelings toward Sweetie Belle, from friend to romantic interest. Yet you don't spend very long on that one moment. You spend far longer on the setup for his proposal, which is the payoff, but it's not (or shouldn't be) the story's emotional high point, because it's pretty formulaic, and the outcome isn't in doubt.

Beyond that, just note the things I had to emphasize or point out multiple times. I need a richer sense of what's going on besides just the dialogue and occasional speaking action (there is a section up top about talking heads which explains some more). I need some more descriptive scene setting. I need the events linked to characters' emotional responses, and I need thos emotions to come through by implication, not overt declaration. I also recommend you rethink how the story is structured and the perspectives used.
>> No. 131493
>>131482
At this point, it feels like we're talking in circles. I want there to be some conflict resolution or impetus for change, and you don't seem to want to make it into that.

Every major character (and often the minor ones as well) should want something. Bonus points if they want multiple things, especially if they're mutually exclusive. The story is how those characters try to get what they want, what obstacles they face, what they're willing to do to achieve it, and how the process changes them.

Both of these things you've mentioned aren't conflicts. They're just moods, and rather static ones at that. Showing how a child has to deal with a drunk adult is, on it's face, a "snapshot in the life" thing with no point. Apple Bloom's dealt with it before, and she'll deal with it again. Nothing has changed, not what will happen in the future, not how she feels about it now, and not in my understanding of her character. Applejack making sure Apple Bloom knows she'll be taken care of isn't a conflict. Apple Bloom already knows this, and the mere admission doesn't change their relationship or my perception of them. Apple Bloom already knew that, and her view on it hasn't altered.

If all you want to do is show Apple Bloom ushering Applejack home and Applejack expressing some affection for her sister, that's fine. It's cute even. But it's not a story.

Either way, I need to come to a resolution on this soon. I've been keeping it in a holding pattern in the queue for weeks now, and it's starting to get in the way. If the story is already what you want it to be, then by all means keep it that way, but in that case, it should probably just stay on FiMFiction.
>> No. 131509
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>rumors of a strange phenomenon dubbed "Friendship" shows//
Subject/verb number disagreement.

>find find//
Repeated word.

>Twilight goes with the best intentions, and quickly discovers there is more than meets the eye going on in Ponyville...//
That's all one clause. There's no need for the comma. There's an explanation at the top of this thread under "comma use with conjunctions." I see that this is an intermittent problem.

>fully-developed//
Two-word phrases beginning in an -ly adverb don't use a hyphen.

>her primal urges toward order and normalcy needed constant checking//
An example speaks far louder than a generality.

>52//
Spell out numbers that short.

>Twilight looked down awkwardly and swatted away a mosquito, avoiding the question.//
What does "awkwardly" mean here? There's no default way that looks, and who's making the judgment? Twilight's been holding the perspective, which suggests she's making this comment about herself. That's kind of odd. It's also better to demonstrate to me that she's avoiding the question than to have the narrator feed me that conclusion. That just leaves it as a dull fact.

>more confused than usual//
Again, make her look and act confused, and it'll carry a lot more weight than having the narrator say so. There's a bit more dicsussion in the section on "show versus tell" at the top of this thread.

>I have learned much already, and look forward to learning more.//
Another unnecessary comma.

>however I was pleased to find not a single book in place//
This brings up a big world-building question: how long has Discord been in control? If a long time, then how is such a thing as being "in place" defined? If the norm is to have nothing grouped in any way, then isn't that "in place"? I see you address this point a little in a later chapter, but where Chaos is defined through its contrast from orderliness, isn't that just a different form of orderliness? I don't see how they perceive one versus the other, unless Discord came around only recently, and even then, why would the majority be so receptive to it?

>confectioners//
confectioner's

>Sugar Cube//
Per canon, Sugarcube, unless you're making a point of having it be multiple words.

>I met five other mares//
>any ponies I have ever met//
Watch the repetitive phrasing.

>In other related news, I brought the Magic of Chaos to three young fillies today though!//
That "though" feels awkward.

There's really no reason to have these letter be completely in italics. The point of italics is to make something stand out, like a short letter or flashback within a larger scene. But when everything stands out, nothing does. It'll already be evident this is a letter from the format, and it just gets annoying to read nonstop italics.

>They were having a picnic and I cast the “Need It Want It” spell on my old toy for them.//
Here's an opposite case. There are two clauses here, so put a comma between them.

>I visited the local music shop this week, and met with the proprietor//
Unnecessary comma.

>we experience everyday//
In this usage, you need "every day" to be two words.

>they are disinterested//
"Disinterested" doesn't mean the same thing as "uninterested." This word implies that they used to be interested but no longer are, and Twilight wouldn't know that about them.

>She is truly unique, I think you’d like her special brand of chaos, even if it sometimes seems geared toward unity instead of disharmony.//
That first comma is a splice.

>(quote)//
Given that she goes on to quote it, this is wholly unnecessary.

>scary//
Repetitive with the recent use in "scary castle."

>They were even solidly planted on the ground and all the bricks were in the walls!//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>my new Friends//
I guess I'm a little surprised that she's not reluctant to include herself as a Friend, since she sees that as something subversive. Wouldn't she be afraid of how Discord would react? Maybe she'd offer an explanation that she's trying to infiltrate the group or that she doesn't see any harm in it so far? I expect this theme will grow in subsequent letters, but it's strange for her to mention this in passing as if it's utterly unimportant.

>Everfree forest//
Capitalize both words.

>other and//
Extraneous space.

>I reminded her that I was Discord’s personal student, and asked if she was worried//
Unnecessary comma.

>I might tell write//
Extraneous word, or perhaps a missing slash?

>in opposition his teachings//
Missing word.

>At this point//
In your recent usage of "by this point," you used a comma after the introductory phrase, while you've gone without for pretty much any other such phrase. Just be consistent.

>Applejack and I were both very tired, and returned to town.//
Unnecessary comma.

>but she seemed annoyed//
I know I bugged you about "show versus tell" in the first chapter, but that one's a standard narrative. In a letter or journal entry, there are different ways to show, but it's much more acceptable to be blunt about emotions and motivations, since that's simply how people naturally write such things. It'd feel overly formal and forced if she went on at length about Applejack's body language, for instance. A little here and there can work, though, and I feel this is a spot where it might. What made her think Applejack was annoyed? Did Twilight just let it go, or did she ask about it?

>-Twilight Sparkle//
Why does she sign her own journal? It's not like the reader will be confused as to who's writing it.

>Honorable Emperor Discord;//
I just now noticed you've been using a semicolon after the salutations of all your letters. A comma is standard, though I've seen a colon used for a formal correspondence, usually in a business sense. I've never seen a semicolon used this way. Same goes for the closing.

>unified together//
Redundant.

>tolerate unpredictability//
Surprising word choice for her. I thought the dogma was that unpredictability should be enjoyed, not tolerated.

>Twilight Sparkler//
Is her name change evidence of chaos, or is this just a typo?

>I’ve decided to continue doing the same with the rest of my Friends, and glean everything I can from their thoughts and feelings on the subject.//
Unnecessary comma.

>All the steam-windows are solid now and the foam clouds crumbled into iced-coffee snow.//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>somepony needed it more than her//
Technically, "more than she." I guess it's up to you whether Twilight knows that and would be fastidious about it.

>even when the coin lands on tails in our unpredictable world//
Comma for the dependent clause.

>I’ve decided to continue doing the same with the rest of my Friends, and glean everything I can from their thoughts and feelings on the subject//
Unnecessary comma.

>it seems Rarity wants to spread it around. Again, it seems//
Watch the repetition.

>I’m still drawn to the old castle and I plan on visiting again when the weather improves.//
Comma between the clauses.

>A dedication vow varies for everyone, but this one is mine.//
Interesting that she doesn't mind it being the same every time she says it. Or that it doesn't occur to her.

>keeping frostbite at bay//
Feels like there should be a "the" in there.

>solid.I//
Missing a space.

>I was shocked when she presented me with a large thick comforter//
Here's another spot where a bit more showing would add significant power. What kinds of things ran through her head? Beyond summarizing it as "shock," how did it make her feel, both the emotions and the accompanying physical symptoms. And here, "large thick" are coordinate adjectives, so they need a comma between them.

>as-is//
You're essentially using this as a predicate adjective, so it doesn't need the hyphen.

>a true friend helps a friend in need, and you’re one of mine//
We really haven't seen Twilight interact with Rarity much, so it's coming out of nowhere to suddenly have Rarity make a declaration like this.

>safe.Per//
Missing space.

>a pack of timber wolves noticed us, and chased us back inside!//
Unnecessary comma.

>and she said she considers it paramount to stay loyal to her friends, and not leave them behind//
Unnecessary comma, especially in that going without one helps differentiate the functions of the two "and"s, since the first one does use a comma.

>It’s not the tree, that’s still too far outside Ponyville to make a difference.//
Comma splice.

>My latest test of Chaos magic may have something to do with this...//
Speech affectations like interruptions and trailing off must always be carefully considered for a medium that doesn't support such things. The fact that the letter writer would have to consciously make three dots on the page implies that she put some thought into doing so and did it for a reason. Grammatically, you don't need an ellipsis, and I don't see that it adds any meaning. Even so, it doesn't quite fit in what would be a formal correspondence.

>over-crowded//
overcrowded

>friend//
She'd been capitalizing this.

>this ponies//
Number mismatch.

>being honesty//
Typo.

>Predictability fosters expectations, and inevitably leads to disappointment.//
Unnecessary comma.

>I have tried to compromise, and ended up betrayed everything.//
Unnecessary comma and verb form error.

>friend//
Another instance where I wonder if you intended to capitalize this consistently.

>Harmony is the opposite of Chaos and no mare can serve both.//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>I came to Ponyville to make a study of the phenomenon known as Friendship, and report back on any threats it posed to the reign of Chaos over our great land//
Unnecessary comma.

>This principle stands in opposition to Chaos, and is most definitely a threat to all we’ve worked for.//
Unnecessary comma.

>harmonizers//
Would this be capitalized?

Okay, the one letter Discord sends back—the strikethroughs don't really make sense. He wasn't in a rush or anything. If he wrote something he later decided not to say, he can simply rewrite the letter. He's also not rushed to write anything. He can think about it at length before actually putting it on the paper. There are times when strikethroughs make sense, but they just don't here.

>I held off until sending them until I got Discord’s response//
That first "until" is extraneous.

>friends//
Rather than keep repeating this, I'll just say to scan your story for instances of this word that should be capitalized.

>Pinkie…//
Another speech affectation that seems odd and forced for a journal format.

>every few constantly//
Missing word.

>non-sensical//
nonsensical

>escherian//
First off, there's no need to get so purple here. You have a limited narrator in Twilight's perspective, who didn't do such in her own writings or in the introduction, when she held the same perspective. So this feels out of place. Second, this presupposes that there's an Escher figure in Equestrian history somewhere, which is problematic when another word would do as well without suggesting a thread which will go nowhere. It'd also need to be capitalized.

>anti-gravity//
antigravity

>pan-pipe//
panpipe

>your highness//
Such an honorific would be capitalized.

>superficially excited but actually somewhere between distraction and indifference//
Okay, now's definitely not the time to be telly. Show me what evidence she uses to come to this conclusion. This doesn't inspire me to come up with a mental image at all. It's just a cold fact, which doesn't make for very interesting reading.

>off-guard//
You don't need to hyphenate that in this usage.

>almost on the verge//
Redundant.

>a panic attack//
Again, show me. Give me what thoughts race through her head and what physical symptoms she experiences. And since it's a limited narration, let the prose itself take on a style and word choice to reflect her mood.

>Discord motioned from behind a large engraved oak desk, to a simple leather chair opposite his own.//
Unnecessary comma.

>I -//
Please use a proper dash. There's a section on dash use up top as well.

>she stopped as a clawed paw raise to silence her//
This is capitalized like a speech attribution, but it has no speaking action. As is, it should be a separate sentence.

>Twilight realized she was trembling and sweating.//
Authors like this type of conceit, even though it rarely makes sense and has become cliche. The classic one is "letting out a breath she didn't know she'd been holding." It's pretty hard to sweat or tremble without knowing it.

>The cowering unicorn felt tears pricking her eyes.//
So why are you backing off to an omniscient narration? This is decidedly external. Twilight wouldn't describe herself this way. I'll also note that this is getting very dialogue-heavy. Discord's said a lot, and yet he's only gotten one action thrown in since his monologue started. Even Twilight's only gotten a few perfunctory actions. The short version is that there is an entire nonverbal side to conversations, which you're neglecting here. There's a longer explanation in the section on talking heads.

>Her voice came haltingly.//
Another statement that feels more omniscient than limited.

>harmonizers//
Capitalize?

>There was no pre-planned malice behind in Discord’s torturous game, she knew him too well for that.//
Seems like the "in" is extraneous, and the comma is a splice.

>Discord’s voice was back to it’s cheery, devil-may-care babble.//
Its/it's confusion.

>All is forgiven and forgotten, go unpack somewhere and tomorrow we’ll get back to learning CHAOS!//
First comma is a splice, and there should be one later on between the clauses. It's also preferred to indicate emphasis or volume with italics instead of all caps or bold font.

>Yes..//
Missing a dot.

>hacky-sack//
hacky sack

>simply plain//
Redundant.

>It can however, be//
If you're going to set off "however" with a comma, you need one on both sides.

>they take forever to grow and I obviously didn’t use enough last time//
Comma between the clauses.

>grow, choking//
Extraneous space.

Normally, I'd make some wrap-up comments here, but I don't think it's necessary. I already covered everything I wanted to and in the level of detail I wanted in the line-by-line comments.

When you're ready to resubmit, choose the "back from Mars" option.
>> No. 131999
>>131509
Thank you so much for all the detailed feedback! I've gone through, fixed the errors you mentioned (plus a few others as I noticed them) and rewrote several other parts slightly per recommendation.

I kept a Google Doc HERE [docs.google.com] where I crossed off each item as I addressed it, along with the action I took.

A few items of note:

For the italics: I think I wish to leave the letters/journals italicized. Other non-letter parts of the story are non-italicized, and it conveys to me a sense of “handwritten” in lieu of a proper font. Still, this isn’t set in stone, I suppose. Would the [quote] tag be better for this (as used in the sequel), even if the entire chapter is “quoted”?

On the dogma of Chaos, ponies are naturally harmonious creatures I think, and the slow growth of the Tree of Harmony has a wider, more subtle influence than Twilight suspects. Discord's rule isn't generally accepted, but most don't know any better. For Twilight's dedication vow, hers is constant. Others might vary theirs, but I she holds more to stability than she likes to admit. It would bug her too much to not have it memorized.

I did dial back the "true friend" moment with Rarity, hope it comes off a little more natural this time around. I do think there's more than written happening behind the scenes, and the moments Twilight mentions are only a few.

Finally, I know the last moments with discord are VERY dialogue-heavy. In the end I feel the words need to stand on their own. I tried several times to break it up, and I found it too distracting from the message. I've noticed I do this a lot in the sequel as well. Maybe it's a flaw, but I love me a good monologue. I'll try to work on that in the future.

Again, thanks you so much. I've realized a lot of things about my writing that I need to work on.
>> No. 132032
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

The language in the early going about shaking the spoons and speaking for them gets a little repetitive. A lot of the sentences are similar in structure as well. Try to mix that up a bit more.

You're using a limited narrator here, who can speak the character's thoughts for her. For instance:
>It was that time again.//
and
>Couldn't risk such important information falling into the wrong hooves, after all.//
This is fine, but look for opportunities to put more of these comment-type statements in the narration to keep that feel consistent. Just a little later, when she gets a faceful of water, I'd expect an emotional reaction from her, which is the perfect place for this type of narration. Yet we're kept at a distance, and the narrator gets very factual. In fact, another advantage to these statements is that they can feel very conversational, so the rules of grammar get relaxed. You can get away with quick sentence fragments, which further helps you break up passages where you have a lot of similarly structured sentences together. For instance, look how often you have three or four sentences that start with "she" very close together.

>but stopped suddenly//
We're given no reason why she does this. Maybe when her mother calls her, but that's mentioned afterward, so it's putting the effect before the cause.

>Her yelp of pain//
Here's another spot where you should be using the limited narrator to its full advantage. How does she feel about this? Let me see her reaction, both mental and physical.

>a foreleg spoons//
Missing word(s). Man, this is really reminding me of one of the characters from Mystery Men.

>eye-level//
As used, you don't need the hyphen.

>Her eyes//
Her eyes were just the subject of the last sentence. This feels repetitive.

>and suspicion was rising in Silver//
Awkwardly phrased. I get that you're likening this to the steam, but it's not especially effective. You'd do better to show me her actions and make her look suspicious.

>made some modifications to make//
Watch the repetition. Again, use the narrator to effect here. She yelled about her clothes, but during this very factual description, it undercuts her reaction. She needs to continue sounding angry as she narrates this.

>It felt more than a little gross//
Here's a good comedic moment. Stretch it out a bit. What things does it feel like to her?

>that was, like, the number-one rule of being a superhero//
Using her speech affectation like this is fine, but do so more consistently. It feels out of place when we've already heard so much from her without her using it yet.

>both being placed carefully in the closet.//
Awkwardly phrased and needlessly passive.

Ooh, Silver Spoon is taking on Diamond Tiara. This is a nice turn of events.

>as she turned her eyes to the gray filly as she stood in the center of the lobby//
Watch stacking up multiple "as" clauses. It's clunky and repetitive.

>standing proud//
Let me see this. Describe her posture and facial expression and get me to interpret pride without actually using the word.

>Silver Spoon wears glasses//
Nobody's going to mention the braid?

>Snips shook his head.//
You're neglecting the narration a bit here. I appreciate that you're doing a good job of showing with these actions, but they're so quick-hit that they feel so minimal. Set the scene better. These can also lead to paragraph after paragraph with identical structures.

>in mild disbelief//
Again, get me to see this. Don't spoon (heh) feed me the conclusion.

>as the costumed filly let out a squeal of surprise//
These prepositional phrases are almost always redundant. The squeal already connotes surprise. But note how external this narration suddenly feels. Silver wouldn't describe herself this way, so you've lost the limited narration quality.

>becoming replaced with one of mild disgust//
Don't just tell me it's disgust. And actor would declare his disgust here. He'd behave and appear disgusted so that the audience can infer it. Your characters should do the same. You did a better job of this early in the story, but it's more important to get it right here, since this is the story's climax.

>she punctuating her rant//
Typo.

>Silver was sitting there, staring up at her as her violet eyes watered, little streaks forming from the tears running down her face and dripping onto the street.//
Don't lose the limited narrator. This is again very external to Silver. Put me in her head again and have the narrator convey her thoughts and reactions as if she were telling me herself. That was a lot of the story's charm, seeing the grandiose posturing she did in the narration while getting ready for her mission, but it's gone now.

>"Hey, I didn't mean...." but she trailed off as Silver's gaze moved to the dirt road under her.//
You're missing something here, a speaking verb, at least.

>her trusty giant spoon flew over//
I'm still at a loss as to how she does this... Cutie mark, I guess?

This really needs a better ending. Diamond just conveniently drops her snark, and there's no apparent reason why, except maybe she doesn't want to see her friend upset like that, but it's not at all apparent from how she acts. The conflict isn't resolved; it just fades away. For a comedy, you'd like to end it on some kind of funny zonger, but before that, we need some closure on what's going on with Diamond. There are a bunch of ways you could go. For instance, I already mentioned that maybe Diamond feels bad about making Silver cry. They might make up, and the reader realizes Diamond's not so bad after all. Or you could go the funny route and have Diamond decide she thinks this is cool after all, and she begs to be Silver's sidekick while deciding what kind of talent she brings to the table. Just spitballing here, but those are the kinds of ways you come out of the story with a message, not just having the story vaguely end.

I thought this story was very fun and cute, and really, there's not that much you need to do to fix it up. I'd like to see it on the blog. If you have any questions, please ask.
>> No. 132038
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

Synopsis:
>long, red//
These are hierarchical adjectives, so you don't need the comma.

>Few notice her, but those that do know exactly why she is there.//
You're referring to ponies, so they are a "who," not a "that."

Story:
>Though an Equestrian city, the residents of the port city had worked hard to maintain a strong link to the city’s past//
Watch the close word repetition. You use "city" three times in one sentence. And the wording here sounds like the residents are an Equestrian city.

>central median//
Pretty redundant.

>None of which she could even pronounce, much less pick apart from one another.//
You'd really only capitalize after an ellipse, if it's grammatically necessary to start a new sentence, but this one parses fine.

>But,//
It's pretty rare for a comma after a conjunction to be used correctly. This one is not. They aren't meant to indicate dramatic pauses.

>said-//
Please use a proper dash. Alt+0151 gives you a nice, all-purpose em dash.

>It spoke to her on a level that only she could understand//
This is left rather vague and abstract. What sorts of images or memories does it conjure? Examples speak much louder than generalities.

>hear - a//
Use a dash.

>Few paid her more than a glance as she worked her way through the streets, but those that did could not help but turn back for a second look as she danced past.//
Pretty clunky to have two "as" clauses in the same sentence, which can also muddle the timeline. And then you had yet another "as" clause just before this.

>hay bacon wraps//
I don't get how this is a thing. I assume you're talking about hay that is made into a bacon-like product rather than these being two separate ingredients, but that nomenclature would still suggest that bacon was a foodstuff first, and that doesn't quite make sense for a presumably vegetarian society.

>- known simply as ‘La Rosa’ to locals -//
Dashes, please. Just do a sweep for these.

>Her flower business boomed enough//
This is in the story's past, so use past perfect tense.

>speeding up and slowing down in perfect harmony//
Maybe you're mixing metaphors here, but it just comes across as confusing. When you're already talking about music, "harmony" takes on a certain meaning, and then you use it in a different way.

>with perfect timing with the music.//
Awkwardly phrased. I'd say "in perfect time with the music," except that's repetitive with the "with the tempo of the music" you used earlier in the same sentence.

>The tempo picked up even more as the song reached its crescendo//
Two things here. First, this is the second of three sentences in a row to use an "as" clause. Watch the repetitive elements. Second, I wonder if you really mean what the technical language says. A crescendo is a process of growing louder, which would happen multiple times during the dance. I wonder if you meant something closer to "climax"?

>sequence of steps//
>series of rapid steps//
>his steps//
Watch the repetition.

>She looked up into his eyes and a furious blush ran across her face.//
There are times before this that you'd violated this guideline. but I found them justified. Not so much here. There are two separate clauses, so put a comma between them.

>Every fiber of her conscience was telling her to look away//
There are times a present participle is needed, but I don't think it is here. If you phrased it with "told" instead of "was telling," does it change anything? It doesn't to me, and then you also get to remove that boring "to be" auxiliary verb.

>in disbelief//
There's no need to be so unsubtle. Her mood is already adequately described by the other things you say about her, so you could cut this without losing anything.

>like shimmering waterfall//
Missing word.

>A gorgeous dress covered most of her pale yellow coat in such a deep black, the glimmering fabric looked to have been cut from the night sky itself.//
Comma splice.

>to flow over her every curve, concealing her as much as it highlighted her every curve//
Repetitive. There's also the beginnings of a perspective problem here. The narrator's been in her perspective and taking a conversational tone at times, yet here, this sounds more external to her. It'd be odd for her to make these observations about herself, and she's also so preoccupied with what's happening that I don't think she'd be paying attention anyway.

>She could feel the stallion’s eyes on her now, boring into her with a heat that she could feel//
Repetitive.

>Draping her coat over the chair, she swung around to face him, adding a bit of a hitch to her hips as she did so.//
In addition to the "as" clauses, there are quite a few participial phrases. At least they're not occurring in clusters so much, but they come with their own baggage. For one thing, they imply simultaneous action, so she drapes her coat over the chair at the same time that she turns to face him. That'd more likely occur in sequence. Then adding the hitch is also implied to happen concurrently.

>“I-I’d love to, but,” she looked into his eyes and had to fight back the urge to swoon, “this is your performance//
Here's how to put a narrative aside in a quote:
“I-I’d love to, but—” she looked into his eyes and had to fight back the urge to swoon “—this is your performance
I see there are other instances of the same issue later on.

>split-second//
In that usage, you don't need the hyphen.

>but this time, and an entirely new beat//
Extraneous word.

>She turned her head and her eyes widened//
Put a comma between these clauses.

>equipment in the far corner of the room. 'I’d expect to see that kind of equipment//
Watch the repetition.

>the stallion that//
The stallion is a "who," not a "that."

>He matched her at first before accelerating his steps, occasionally raising a hoof to accentuate his movements.//
This is all pretty vague.

>as she quickly picked up the cadence of his hooves as they tapped the stage floor and sped her own steps to match//
Stacked-up "as" clauses again, and more repetition of "steps" around here.

>Adrenaline, nerves, and sheer joy raced through her veins//
This isn't bad, but it'd strengthen things if you focus on the symptoms, like what images are flashing through her mind and what physical sensations she has.

>perfectly-measured//
No hyphen is needed for two-word phrases beginning with an -ly adverb.

>She glanced to her side for a second, and smiled at the sight of the audience watching in rapt silence.//
The opposite issue, and the one I've let slide numerous times because it felt right for the flow: that's all one clause, so you don't need the comma.

>his eyes had seemingly never left her for a moment//
But the last time it was mentioned where he was looking, it explicitly said he wasn't looking at her.

>for a moment, his stare not faltering for even a moment//
Repetitive.

>His eyes, the entrancing rhythm, the dozens of eyes watching her//
Fairly repetitive mention of eyes.

>split-second//
Same as before.

>bow - a//
Use a dash. Actually, a colon would work well here.

>Her eyes seemed to glow brighter//
Again, you've dropped into an outside perspective. This isn't something she would know. I think a limited narrator is probably the best choice for this story, and you're mostly using that. But these slips into an omniscient feel push me away from the character. Be careful to keep it all to what she could reasonably know, perceive, or pay attention to.

>beautiful, silk//
These are hierarchical adjectives. You don't need a comma between them.

>tempo//
That's another word you're using an awful lot.

>again, he was right beside her. She stared at him again//
Repetition.

>- and more than a hint of desire -//
Use dashes.

>nor did their hooves stop tapping and stomping in perfect harmony//
See earlier comment about the use of "harmony" in this context.

>- to live -//
Use dashes.

>inside-out//
No hyphen.

>the music rose toward its peak//
You just used "peak" to describe this in the last paragraph.

>a careful observer may have seen sparks of red and green magic crackling across the floor//
Straying from her perspective again.

>She spun by him a final time as the last notes of the music played out, only now she spun right into his hooves.//
Comma splice.

>in a seamless motion//
You just used "seamless" not long ago. There are plenty of other words that would work: unbroken, fluid, smooth, ...

>and looked into her blazing green eyes//
Doesn't sound like her perspective.

>- and what might happen soon after that -//
Use dashes.

>as a sign of the crowd’s admiration for the performance they had just witnessed//
A completely redundant and unnecessary clarification.

>She felt a touch on her leg and when she looked down, she saw his hoof wrapped gently around her own.//
Comma splice, but in her current emotional state, I could buy it as a product of her rushed thoughts.

>now disheveled//
Needs a hyphen.

>life.” He whispered//
I assume this is supposed to be an attribution, but it's not punctuated/capitalized like one.

>resist - she//
Use a dash.

In this last scene, the paragraph indentations get inconsistent.

I must confess that I know a lot more about music than dance, so if you have a technical knowledge about flamenco, then I'll bow to your expertise. But if it's not something you're particularly informed about or haven't researched much, then there's a book I'd like to refer you to. Rather, I'd just send you the brief section about flamenco, but I'm not going to spend the time typing it out if you don't need it. I think it could lend a little more technical accuracy, though I don't have the experience with dance to know if what the author says is true in general. He does research on music in culture and has a level of knowledge about music that I'd place well above casual, but I don't know if the same is true for the dance aspect. Anyway, if you think it would help, I'd gladly send it along to you. It's even a nice narrative about how to find the real thing that the locals appreciate, not the superficial one for the tourists.

I have mixed feelings about the ending. We're built up over the entire story to be invested in Roseluck's feelings on the matter, but then she gets completely dropped. We can infer a little from the rose she left behind, but really, her arc never completes. Is she fulfilled now? Or is she going to pine away now that she's achieved her life's dream and has nothing left to wish for? The fact that we get the stallion's aftermath is nice, at least, but we were never particularly engaged with him, so it carries far less power.

This was a good story. There's not much to fix here—just some easy mechanical and repetitive elements, and a few wavers in perspective. When you're ready to resubmit, use the "back from Mars" option.
>> No. 132039
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Groans of annoyance and disappointment erupted from the class.//
Avoid directly stating emotions like this. Get me to interpret their mood from what they do and how they look. For instance, instead of saying someone's happy, say they're smiling and hopping up and down. It's much more engaging that way. You do this quite a bit. The three biggest things to avoid are saying the emotion outright (happy), adverb form (sadly), and prepositional phrase form (in excitement).

>line-of-sight//
When used as a noun, you don't need the hyphens.

>She seemed to think on this for a bit//
This is a kind of telling, too. The narrator's drawing the conclusion for me. That said, you get some leeway with a first-person narrator, since they're less apt to explain the reasoning behind their conclusions, particularly with regard to their own actions. So you don't have to go overboard woth her, but I'd still encourage you to let me in on some of the evidence that makes her think make this judgment.

On a related note, the point of a first-person narration is to get the reader intimately in the character's head. So it's odd that your first scene is in a kind of subjective narration in the collective class's viewpoint. You couldn't have Derpy's perspective there, since she wasn't present for it, but you could have had Dinky tell her about it on the walk home instead and get at the information that way.

You're also getting very talking heads here. This is when we get a lot of dialogue with little to break it up that shows what the characters are doing as they talk. It causes the reader to lose sight of the setting and is too reliant on the dialogue alone to carry the emotional burden. Consider that half of a conversation is nonverbal. You're missing that half of it, and it adds a lot of characterization to see how they respond to what's said.

>The slight tickly feeling of my feathers against her back//
How does she know that's what it feels like?

>right in my front of my face//
Extraneous word.

>thanks Rose//
Needs a comma for direct address.

>Flipping open the flap of the saddlebag, I rummaged through its contents//
Here, you're saying that she flips open the saddlebag at the same time she rummages through it. That'd more likely happen in series.

>where I stood awkwardly—peeking through the contents of Twilight’s bookshelves.//
I don't see the utility of a dash there. A comma would be fine.

>At first, he gave me a funny look upon showing him the book I wanted.//
That syntax is jumbled. It says he showed himself the book Derpy wanted.

>in such a manner, that no force//
Unnecessary comma.

>With this light—this shimmering, radiant light of undeniable and unspeakable glory—//
This type of structure, with these inserted parenthetical asides, gets very repetitive in this excerpt.

>rarely had leftovers, and on the rare//
Watch the repetition.

>the crux of the point//
Redundant.

>She gave me an indecisive look.//
See how often you just go ahead and identify their expressions for me? I have no idea what this looks like, so I can't envision the scene in my head. Inferring emotion from appearance and behavior is our natural way of perception, so it works so much better to have writing do it that way as well.

>her expression changed//
This couldn't be more vague.

>Nothing particularly interesting stood out about it. As one would expect from a typical encyclopedia or dictionary, it bore a very plain cover//
You've said the same thing twice, which you'd already said in the previous paragraph.

>large, iron//
Hierarchical adjectives. You don't need the comma.

>I almost considered this big hunk of metal to be the metaphorical equivalent of my soul//
That rather smacks of the author using the character as a mouthpiece. And then she never explains why.

>As I opened the door to the safe, I took a moment to gaze at my collection within; pages upon pages of journals—I had stopped counting at this point—stacked on top of one another, creating several layers from the back of the safe towards the front.//
Misused semicolon. The aside notwithstanding, there isn't an independent clause after it. This should be a colon.

> and finally began jotting them down//
This caught my eye, and probably only because you'd just used the same verb shortly before. I'd gotten the impression that you'd used it a lot, but when I checked by doing a search, you only use it 4 times. But then when I checked the related "start," I see that you used it 7 times. Even then, that's not a ton, but they're often not necessary. Every action begins. It's only worth calling attention to that beginning it it's an abrupt change or the action never finishes.

Maybe you get to these things later on, but I do have some disconnects with Derpy's situation. She's been keeping these journals for a long time, so nothing about the situation is new to her. She writes well, so if she feels bad that nobody knows how smart she is, why not do that? Twilight would no doubt be willing to accommodate her if it meant having to sit there with her for a long time to get out what she wanted to say. She could write letters, or if she wanted public exposure, do articles or editorials for the newspaper. It's not even mentioned whether she considered getting therapy. These are all easy answers that my mind immediately jumps to, and her journal entry is (oddly) generalized to her whole experience, not just what happened to her the day she wrote it, so why wouldn't she have covered these topics? By not even talking about such things, it's like they never occurred to her, which doesn't quite jive.

>state-of-mind//
No hyphens.

You've correctly un-italicized words for emphasis within the italicized entry, but really think about what that means. This is an article of writing, so that presumes that she writes these words differently somehow than the others, in print versus cursive, for example. But that's not the norm. If she's typing, sure, but I assume it's manuscript. So what do you do when writing something by hand to emphasize it? You'd underline it, use all capitals, or write over it several times to get it dark (essentially bold face).

So to add a summary to that, just watch the amount of repetition and telling. Those were the only consistent problems. However, I would like to caution you about something in the extended synopsis you included in your submission. Specifically, chapter 6. This really sounds like it's going to be on the wrong side of what we call "piling on," which is shoveling more and more tragedy upon our poor protagonist. Doing so is a blatant play for the reader's heartstrings, and those that see through it often resent the author for it. Where sad/tragedy are concerned, less is more. There's no reason to put more in there than is required for the plot to work. There are too many stories that do this to a ridiculous degree, and we regularly reject them for it.

Incidentally, I agree with one of the commenters that it took me a little while to catch on that she'd been reading her novel for hours. I wouldn't have gotten that sense at all unless you'd explicitly stated it, and I think there are more elegant ways to go about that. For one, say it indirectly by having her note that the sun has moved quite far or something. That's still fairly terse, but less overt. Or have breaks in the reading, bridged by ellipses, so we see things getting skipped, maybe have her do a few things like get a drink that would clearly be spaced out. Just a thought.

Now, this story's skillfully written enough that I'm tempted to give it a conditional rejection, though really that wouldn't make a difference in this case. It'd be more of a reminder to myself whether I needed to reread the whole thing or just spot-check it. In any case, I'm going to ask that you have a few more chapters written before resubmitting. I can see from the extended synopsis where you intend to take the story, but for one thing, that could change, and for another, actually getting those done is entirely a different matter than planning them. So far, while well written, we have a very standard setup, of Derpy being a misunderstood outcast and Dinky as the one who knows the real her while being ashamed, secretive, and/or evasive about her with other ponies. Even the conceit that it turns out Derpy's really smart has been done multiple times, so what I really want to see is what makes this story different from those. And certainly being better written is something that can stand out, and you've already got a leg up there, but I'd like something more than "it's story X, but better" to justify posting it. If you think your next couple of chapters fit the bill, then that won't be any more work for you.

So, bottom line, I'd like to see this back with the repetition and telliness fixed, and with some more meat to it so I can make sure there's a unique story being told. I'm not going to make you wait until chapter 6 to see if that gets done well, but do take that advice to heart, because it's the difference between cheap feels and a really powerful story. We see people on the wrong side of that equation all the time.
>> No. 132055
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

I'll just say right off the bat that I'm not going to mark many detailed mechanical errors in the letters themselves, as they may be attributable to the characters, insofar as it fits their personalities to make such mistakes.

>if you’re busy with important!//
Missing word.

>I got a sort-of promotion at work!//
There's a bit of exclamation point overload going on here. They make things stand outm but when everything stands out, nothing does.

>I just worry about you now I’m not around to tell you these things in person.//
Missing a "that" in there.

>'thunk'//
Sounds effects are generally discouraged in narration, but it's a valid word anyway, so you don't need the quotes.

>She always felt more positive when she got a letter or sent one back.//
Instead of being so blunt, give me some more detail. What effect is this positivity having on her thoughts or how she feels physically?

>The Minuette’s//
Not sure what that "The" is supposed to indicate.

>outer wear//
outerwear

>The world lay under a thick white blanket outside but the heaters in the little shop were on full blast//
There are two separate clauses here, so put a comma between them. There's an explanation at the top of this thread, under "comma use with conjunctions."

>Suspiciously//
How does this look? Create a visual in my head so that I can read their emotions from what I see. This type of telly language comes at it backward; it gives me the conclusion, then burdens me with creating the mental picture to fit.

>I’m just teaching my first student today and I wanted to make sure everything’s all set.//
Same deal with the comma/clauses thing.

>Why wouldn’t it be?//
What does "it" refer to here? You sure you didn't mean "I"?

>Minuette didn’t quite leap backwards but it was close.//
Needs a comma.

>Minuette shove her hoof away.//
Verb tense.

>She tried to look dignified but Lyra’s continued onslaught of booping made her telekinetically lift her paperwork and bat at the hooves that wouldn’t leave her alone.//
Needs a comma.

>flat of an unturned flat//
Watch the repetition. Also note how there's pretty sparse narration through much of this dialogue. The rationale behind this is described in the section on talking heads up top, but the short of it is that you don't want the reader losing sight of the visual setting, and the nonverbal part of a conversation supplements the emotions quite a bit.

>Her grin faded, the bright gusto of her mood temporarily dampening.//
The fading grin already connotes the rest and does so subtly.

>boring!//
You'll normally italicize an ! or ? that's on an italicized word.

>Concern laced her words//
I hope I've pointed out enough of these by now that they'll be easy to spot. If you see an emotion directly named, chances are the scene would be more powerful by giving me the evidence to lead me there instead.

>Gone was the edge of laughter from his voice. Gone, too, was the jovial gleam from his eyes. His shoulders slumped as if weighed down by a heavy invisible poncho.//
There you go. This is how to do it right. You say what his mood is without saying it.

>siuded//
Not sure what this was supposed to be. Maybe "sounded"? If so, watch the perspective. Anything in this scene so far that favored a perspective character sat squarely with Minuette, but this is external to her—she wouldn't be remarking about how she sounds. By the next paragraph, the perspective resides with her again. Try to keep that consistent.

>Forcibly ignoring how her heart jittered when he said her – the one she only ever allowed him to use//
Feels like a word missing, maybe "nickname". It's possible that she avoids using it, but I can't see why.

>Hearts n’ Hooves//
Grab that apostrophe and put another in front of the "n" as well. And I do mean cut and paste—if you type one at the beginning of a word, smart quotes will draw it backward.

>I yelled so loud you looked directly at me//
Seems an odd thing for her to say, since she doesn't attribute any motivation to it. Maybe something like "you had no choice but to notice, if only to shut me up."

>weekend to Horseshoe Bay//
Maybe this is a British thing? I've always heard that phrased with an "in," not a "to."

I will pause for a moment here to say you've done a good job on the letters. Many writers don't actually consider what's reasonable to put in a letter. They essentially treat it as narration and give things like setting description and quoted dialogue that people simply wouldn't write in one. Yours sound natural.

>Rarity, that is; not Derpy//
>I don’t think Derpy could screech even if she tried. I miss everything about Ponyville; even the stuff I said was annoying or tiresome while I was there.//
Misused semicolons. Despite what I said earlier about being able to attribute errors to the writers themselves and not the author, attempting to use semicolons at all in something as informal as a personal letter would suggest a good enough familiarity to use them correctly.

>I’ve been looking forward to our Lesson//
Why is that capitalized?

>Wha-//
Use a full dash.

>steamrollering//
steamrolling

>Sweetie Belle was startled at the mare’s incisiveness.//
In this scene so far, the narrator had been speaking from Sweetie Belle's perspective and essentially using her own voice. But that feeling gets broken here, as this statement comes from a viewpoint external to her. Let the narration communicate her surprise how she experiences it. The narrator can comment for her, get a little tongue-tied, whatever.

>and I’ll point and laugh and call them a liar//
Needs a comma to set off this clause.

>She paused.//
For some reason, writers love this sentence, but it's incredibly vague and bland. What happens during the pause. Do thy both stand stock-still? Does one of them do something? Does your perspective character notice anything, or have an internal comment?

>Something inside Sweetie Belle tautened.//
But she doesn't know what? No reason has been presented as to why she'd repress it or keep it secret, so why wouldn't the narrator know?

>Her flank seemed to ache//
Insofar as she is the narrator, either it aches or it doesn't. "Seem" shouldn't enter into it.

>She just has to look at a piece of fabric and she knows how to make it into something beautiful.//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>Her voice rose in pitch.//
The scene started with a conversational tone well in Sweetie Belle's perspective, but now that the emotion is running high, you're backing away and sounding more omniscient. If you want to have a limited narrator at all, these are the types of moments to make it stand out.

>laughing stock//
laughingstock

>Lyra adopted a thoughtful expression.//
How does this look? Don't make me do the work. Look at it versus the next one:
>Sweetie Belle sniffed and stared at her.//
Here, you create the visual and let it do the work. I get her mood, even though you didn't say a single word about it directly.

>Sweetie Belle said desperately//
Again, let the limited narration and the visual of the scene carry the emotion. Don't put it all in a single "desperately" that's easy for the reader to gloss over without thinking about it. By making him decipher it (but also doing so rather unambiguously), you involve the reader much more.

>“Baloney!”//
Look how little narration we're getting the further this scene goes along. Don't lose sight of the visual aspect of the story. You have to keep the reader connected with these characters as actual events happen, and during a real conversation, an observer would notice little elements of how the conversants act and look.

>She paused.//
There you go again.

>after lesson than before them//
I think you meant "lesson" to be plural.

>With lots of freak-outs, no doubt.//
I don't see the advantage of putting this in italics. It's already apparent from the few sentences in this scene that you're taking a limited narration with Minuette, so the narrator already speaks her thoughts for her. There are times it's important to have the character speak the thought herself rather than let the narrator, but I don't see the need here. For example, compare to the later:
>Had Lyra gone already?//
They both have the same voicing, but why is it important that one thought happened verbatim, while the other may have been more of an impression?

>she decided to check it was neat and tidy enough for her exacting standards//
Feels like there's a missing "if" or "that" in there.

>Surely not; she would have seen her.//
Another misused semicolon. Basically, if you can't split it into two complete sentences at the semicolon, then use something else. A period, comma, colon, or dash may work, depending on the situation.

>She stared at needle//
Missing word.

>Annoyance frosted her tone.//
Too blunt, and it's a rather external perspective to her again. It doesn't sound like the kind of observation she'd make about herself, and she's effectively the narrator.

>My student arrives in twenty minutes and I need to get ready.//
Needs a comma.

>Lyra shook her head like she was trying to clear it.//
Watch the close repetition. You just used "clear" a couple sentences ago.

>She pursed her lips and made kissing noises.//
You sure you didn't mean "puckered"? It'd be hard to do that with pursed lips.

>The noise that emerged from Minutte’s throat could reasonably be called a squawk.//
Now you've gone to a more omniscient viewpoint, or possibly to Lyra's. Keep the perspective consistent.

>as she was chased//
This is a very active thing, but the passive voice robs it of its action.

>if you didn’t have a cart//
Try to avoid addressing the reader, unless you're going to make a habit of it (which should have been established by now anyway). "Without a cart" would work fine here.

>It scraped a few hairs, pulling them out by their roots.//
No reaction from her? Didn't it hurt?

>“You did –” Lyra blinked as she took in the multi-coloured mane and tail before her. “ –not!//
When putting a narrative aside in a quote like this, you don't need to capitalize the aside (except for an instance like this, where "Lyra" has to be capitalized anyway), and you only include end punctuation if it's a question mark or exclamation mark.

>You couldn’t buy dew soup or other pegasi delicacies//
Addressing the reader again. And noun adjuncts are singular, so "pegasus delicacies."

>She didn’t get angry easily but a sliver of irritation shot through her now.//
Needs a comma, and describe that irritation without saying that's what it is.

>asa//
Missing a space.

>Lyra place the meal triumphantly in her basket.//
Verb tense. And let the narration carry her mood. Wouldn't she be internally declaring herself the winner?

>in alarm//
In most instances, you can just remove these prepositional phrases that identify mood without altering anything, since the language is usually already in place to convey it. And in this case, it is.

>Hi Lyra!//
Needs a comma for direct address.

>in delight//
Show me her delight instead of saying it.

>and very cold packet of frozen peas//
Missing a word.

>I keep trying but my magic isn’t good enough yet.//
Needs a comma.

>blew mane from her eyes//
Missing a "her" maybe?

>though her expression belied her words//
And what expression might that be?

>Lyra felt a little guilty for that.//
Be a little more subtle about this.

>She didn’t want Rainbow Dash to do herself any permanent damage but she had needed an excuse to get away from them.//
Needs a comma.

>uncomprehendingly//
Just have her raise an eyebrow or something. Or you could just drop this altogether. It's apparent from what she says anyway.

>usin’ you brain//
Typo.

>Applejack admitted, anger still tightening her words like a noose.//
This conversation is getting pretty talking heads. And it's a bit iffy to identify her anger directly like this. You already did it once, and you're calling attention to that fact. Just have her words tighten. You don't need to identify the anger. Some body language would sell it better.

>alarm blurring her words//
You don't need this. There's enough there already to pick it up.

>I haven’t even ordered one pizza since I you left//
Extraneous word.

>in surprise//
Drop it or elaborate with some subjective comment.

>Hi Lyra. Hi Sweetie Belle.//
Commas for direct address.

>obviously cheered//
If it's obvious, why don't I get to see it?

>She wants to go out and play with her friends but you can never be too careful with these things.//
Needs a comma.

>Bye Miss Hooves!//
Comma for direct address.

>After the irrepressible pink pony came to work for them it had been difficult not to smile.//
>They wanted a slice of happiness with their sweets and Pinkie was more than happy to serve it to them.//
Needs a comma.

>looking angry//
And how does that look?

>Mrs. Cake liked the polite filly//
No explanation is given to whether she likes her for the current circumstances or in general. And if that latter, it's an odd thing to point out, as it doesn't have much bearing on things, unless you want to supply some sort of anecdote running through Mrs. Cake's mind that does.

>uncomprehendingly//
That word again.

>No, that’s crass//
Again, given that you've chosen a subjective narrator in Mrs. Cake's perspective, I don't see the advantage of presenting this as quoted thought.

>You two just find yourselves a table and I’ll bring your milkshakes over//
Needs a comma.

>why she had such a sense of relief that they were no longer at the counter//
I don't get why she wouldn't know this. She practically explained it already.

>interest buzzing behind her eyes//
I have no idea what this would look like.

>of relief//
Unnecessary.

>A, now there’s a story.//
"Ah," yes?

>seemed honestly impressed//
What's her evidence of this conclusion? It also seems to imply that Lyra expected her not to care, and I'm not sure why, unless some generic thing that kids don't care about technical things or old stories.

>It was bad luck for her but it changed my life.//
Needs a comma.

>She twisted up her face at an unpleasant memory.//
Keep the narration feeling subjective. This sounds more omniscient.

>Sweetie Belle’s grimace matched Lyra’s perfectly.//
There you go. This is a great sentence, because it gets at both their moods without overtly stating them, and the "perfectly" is a subjective judgment, which places it firmly in Lyra's perspective.

>and that when he was in school//
Needs a comma after this.

>So why was Rarity the one to arrange Sweetie Belle’s singing lessons? she wondered.//
Another case where I don't see what it gains you to present as a direct thought.

>Hoofington Conservatoire//
Seems odd that a British-sounding town would choose the French version of Conservatory.

>respondent sympathy//
You just used "sympathy" a couple sentences ago.

>Lyra trailed off.//
I already get that from the punctuation. You don't need to narrate it.

>It used to but it didn’t anymore.//
Needs a comma.

>hairsbreadth//
hair's breadth.

>High school was awful for those who didn’t fit in but she suspected Sweetie Belle was destined to be one of the pretty fillies//
Needs a comma.

>ice-cream//
Is it a British-ism to hyphenate that?
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>in terror//
Show it in her face, not the narration.

>But sip is slow anyhow.//
Typo.

>Eventually she stopped looking like she was about to cry and Lyra released her magic.//
Needs a comma.

>Sweetie Bell//
Typo. Do a search for these, as I noticed more than one.

>great-aunts//
Another one. Do Brits normally hyphenate compound nouns like this?

>A feeling went up her spine; not a shiver but something else, like the tip of a hoof running over each vertebra without actually touching them.//
Misused semicolon.

>Your sister doesn’t seem to like me much so I wondered whether she’d approve of you hanging out with me.//
Needs a comma.

>ag-.//
Use a real dash, and the period is extraneous.

>Discomfort showed clearly in Sweetie Belle’s expression.//
How so?

>How weird is –“//
Another thing that can break smart quotes is dashes. These are backward.

>Hi Pinkie!//
Needs a comma.

>present the first two like a medieval pony presenting//
Watch the repetition.

>At first she had thought Lyra was asleep but that had not been the case.//
Needs a comma.

>middle of tutoring session//
Missing word.

>last Winter//
Why is that capitalized?

>And she needs six more of them so I’m afraid I require your modelling services for a while longer, darling.//
Needs a comma.

>I’m already late but I didn’t like to say//
Needs a comma.

>B-But//
Only capitalize the first one.

>When Fluttershy had gone//
Needs comma after this.

>showiest catsuit she had ever laid eyes on. Rarity’s flair showed//
Watch the word repetition.

>“ She//
Extraneous space.

>lobule//
I'd watch the advanced word choice for this scene. Keep in mind that you've set Sweetie Belle as your perspective character, so you need to keep the word choice and voicing close to her. Yes, she's a little older now, but this'd be pretty advanced even for most of the adults.

>new-born//
newborn

>“Yeah, like an intact spine,” Lyra muttered.//
Getting pretty talking heads again.

>It’s brilliant, sis; your best design yet. //
Misused semicolon, and "Sis" would be capitalized when used as a term of address.

>Despite her pride and tough exterior//
As placed in the sentence, this seems to describe Sweetie Belle. Okay, this entire paragraph is a little heavy-handed with the exposition. Again, keep in mind that Sweetie Belle is your perspective character, so it implies that she's actually standing there reasoning all this out in this manner while all this happens around her. While possible, it still feels a bit formal. She might think more anecdotally, coming up with an example of when Rarity demonstrated this behavior. An example speaks a lot louder than a list of generalities.

>speculatively//
How does this look? That's not really something that changes how you hear the speech, like "softly" might. It gets to her mindset while saying it, which is why it's better to show that through more subtle means that declaring it. If she holds a hoof to her mouth and counts under her breath, for instance, it gets that across in a much more engaging way.

>Rarity was a fabulous designer but a menace in the kitchen.//
Really? She did breakfast just fine in "Sisterhooves Social."

>Rarity sighed.//
Her narration gets this exact same sentence twice in a row.

>Applejack is fidgeter and I only ever asked Rainbow Dash once.//
Comma needed and missing word.

>hangar//
hanger

>joined the other four on the rail.”//
Extraneous quotation marks.

>Sweetie Belle swallowed and took a steadying breath//
Just pointing out another spot where it's done well. We get her mood through her behavior without your ever having to mention it.

>She spoke as it she had//
Typo.

>I had my reasons but they weren’t good ones//
Needs a comma.

>diatribe//
Not sure I'd characterize what she's saying as a diatribe, but that's also a pretty advanced word for Sweetie-Belle-as-narrator.

>Rarity gets distracted and ignores me all the time but I never take it personally.//
Needs a comma.

>hoping she communicated unconcerned forgiveness and not the glee that was actually bubbling inside her.//
Instead of bluntly saying these emotions, focus on what effect Sweetie Belle wants to achieve.

>Lyra looked genuinely relieved.//
How does that look?

>Doh, ray, mi, fah, so, la, ti, doh!//
Might as well use the standard spellings: Do, er, mi, fa, sol, la, ti, do.

>Maybe you’re the next Sapphire Shores and your sister will be designing stage costumes for you someday.//
Needs a comma.

>shier pier//
I've always heard that as "short." Is this a local expression from Scotland or Wales or something? It doesn't have an entry in either Webster's or OED.

>What am I writing that for?//
This is probably the first thing you wrote in a letter that didn't strike me as authentic. If she really felt bad about writing that, then she'd start a new letter and leave it out. It's not like it's spoken and once it's out there, it's too late to take it back. She's expressing regret while she's still writing the letter, but she's not committed to saying it until she's dropped it in the mailbox. This smacks of contrivance more than natural correspondence. If she leaves it in there now, she does so deliberately.

>side-tracked//
sidetracked

>and if you have never come to Ponyville//
Verb form, and needs a comma after this.

>lesson In the big black appointment book//
Extraneous capitalization.

>sighing happily//
There's enough there that you could cut the "happily."

>She grabbed her saddlebags and coat from her peg and dashing away before he could respond.//
Verb form.

>and was crossed the distance//
Verb form.

>Her chin met frozen asphalt and she travelled the last few feet on her face.//
Needs a comma.

>When she got up//
Needs a comma after this.

>Did I make it in time?//
This is the first time I've seen a direct thought that has to be one as phrased. The narrator would have to say "she."

>If it was upside down//
Needs a comma after this.

>Sagging in disappointment and self-recrimination//
Give me the evidence, not the conclusion. Let the indirect narrative thoughts carry this.

>Twilight looked startled//
Describe it.

>in obvious concern//
Show it. Otherwise, it doesn't mean near as much.

>She had been as shocked and horrified as everypony else last month//
Needs a comma after this.

>She had read books in anticipation of the day when she might have to go through it herself//
Needs a comma after this.

>“I thought friendship was about being there for others even when they don’t want it. Isn’t that what motivated you to dedicate all that time to honouring your Dragon Code with Applejack?”//
Why don't we get a visual reaction to what Spike said to her? He's directly challenged her, so she's not going to deadpan it.

>meddling//
Just used that word two sentences ago, and there's no effect created by the repetition.

>Lyra remained exactly where she had been; on the couch, staring into space, a mug of sweetened tea clasped between her forehooves.//
Misused semicolon.

>She was a passing acquaintance; somepony you could nod at in the street but not strike up an idle conversation with.//
Misused semicolon.

>When he was done//
Needs a comma after this.

>Spike waved a claw in front of her face but she only blinked//
Needs a comma.

>under the guise of fetching the bread//
But he already brought it out.

>even if it did prove you were right. “Something’s not right.”//
Watch addressing the reader and the repetition.

>long forgotten//
Hyphenate.

>She didn’t understand what was wrong with the other unicorn but she did grasp that spooking her was not a good idea.//
Needs a comma.

>he reassured//
That's a transitive verb. It requires a direct object.

>I … no. no, I’m, sure that’s not a possibility.//
Capitalization, and that last comma is extraneous.

>Minuette trailed off.//
Already apparent. You don't need to narrate it.

>I should have sat her down and talked to her but I just shoved students at her as a distraction so neither of us would have to talk about it.//
Needs a comma.

>I don’t see anypony but it’s dark inside.//
Needs a comma.

>said twilight.//
Capitalization. Also note that after the first paragraph of this scene, there's barely any narration for the next six. could use some more to avoid talking heads.

>Subsection B of a Volume Twelve//
That "a" is extraneous.

>may have caused themselves bodily harm or be at risk of causing themselves bodily harm//
That's oddly specific. Why have a separate law governing suicide (or delusion, I suppose)? Why not just generally if the occupant is suspected to be in harm's way, like if a robber had been seen to enter?

>The door flew inward, cracking a little.//
Twilight's there. Why doesn't she simply teleport inside?

>but before she could inspect what it was//
Surround this bit with commas.

>balled up//
Hyphenate.

>A dresser draw//
Typo.

>Rainbow Dash snapped her head back to Applejack in surprise.//
The "in surprise" isn't necessary.

>gave Momma Sheep the slip.//
Repetitive phrasing with what she said the last time she spoke.

>‘em//
Backward apostrophe.

>It’s freezing out here but I don’t think she was even wearing a scarf!//
Needs a comma.

>Applejack Turned//
Capitalization.

>Mr Cake//
Earlier, you'd used a period with the abbreviation, and for Mrs. Cake as well. I understand this way is common in British usage, so either is fine, but be consistent.

>Rainbow!//
Italicize the exclamation mark, too.

>Applejack echoed in surprise.//
Show me her surprise. Keep in mind you've had Dash as your perspective character for the scene so far (though a couple spots almost felt like Mr. Cake), so it'll be what Dash perceives.

>Sure enough, there was Twilight running towards them//
Well, now it seems like you're going for Applejack's perspective. The "in surprise" bit is odd then, since it's essentially AJ making the observation about herself, and if se's truly surprised, she won't be that self-aware. I will say that the transition into A's head wasn't a bad one, since it didn't jump straight there from a subjective statement in another character's viewpoint. Just keep it with AJ for a while.

>All three looked worried.//
How so?

>the big stallion//
You just described him as such.

>but with Rainbow you could never be sure//
Watch addressing the reader.

>but once they got going//
Needs a comma after this.

>Ponyville Station was usually a hub of activity.//
I don't see a purpose to this scene at all.

>You couldn’t see the station from here.//
Watch addressing the reader.

>She opened her eyes and for a brief second all she saw was the rumpled silhouette of a pony with hair so mussed she was unrecognisable.//
Needs a comma.

>Her hooves scrambled and slipping in the snow.//
Verb form.

>in pain//
Don't need this.

>yelp of pain//
Just used that phrasing, and the "of pain" is unnecessary anyway.

> Her head hurt and her mind couldn’t make the connections between everything that was going on.//
Needs a comma.

>twisted up in visions of twisted//
Repetition.

>We did that already and it wasn’t the right thing to do then//
Needs a comma.

>she came to trembling stop//
Missing word.

>cautious but resolute//
What does this look like? Your perspective's with Lyra, and she's pretty out of it to be coming to fairly esoteric conclusions like this.

>Pieces of a jigsaw strove to fit together in her head but it was like trying to finish it without the picture on the box for reference.//
Needs a comma.

>her parents came and you//
Needs a comma.

>Lyra fought it but the force of reality was as inexorable as gravity pulling her wingless body down.//
Needs a comma.

>She pressed a hankie to her face but it was dry as the bottom of a hoof in the desert.//
Needs a comma.

>If her grandmother hadn’t seen that wretched advertisement for that wretched candy store she would have stayed and come to her senses.//
Needs a comma.

>all this time!” “//
Those extraneous quotation marks are apparently supposed to go with the next paragraph.

>N-No//
Only capitalize the first one.

>her grief translating itself into a desire to hurt somepony else//
Watch the perspective. I don't know how Lyra could know this.

>I’ve lost my daughter and my mother in the same week and I will never forgive you for that//
Needs a comma.

>she continued to nuzzle and provide comfort the only way she knew how//
Watch the perspective. I get that Lyra's in a state where she's not going to notice much around her, so it's tempting to switch to someone else. And it's even fine to do so. The problem is that you only stay there for a couple sentences. If it's worth going to her, it's worth staying there a little while.

>Pink blossom dotted the trees//
I think you meant that to be plural.

>It didn’t take much to knock the blossoms free of their branches.//
Watch the repetition of "blossoms."

>Spring//
Why is that capitalized?

>blossom-laden//
And more use of that word.

>engraved gold//
Missing an "in"?

>It miss you every day.//
Typo.

>carry in speaking//
Did you mean "on"?

>On the grave beneath the tree, a wedding ring glittered.//
This feels a little disconnected, since I never saw her move to put anything there.

Aside from the detailed points, I don't have much to say. It's a well-constructed story. At first, I felt like you spilled the beans too quickly as to the nature of the problem, but now I'm not so sure. Rather than being a surprise for the reader, it plays more toward watching how everyone else deals with her delusions. So in the end, I think it works. The only thing is that a few of the early scenes played it a little heavy-handed. It's pretty obvious what's happening anyway, and even if a few readers miss some subtle clues early on, there's still plenty of space left for them to notice what's going on. The scene with Minuette and Noteworthy speaking after they think Lyra's left immediately comes to mind, as well as the big encounter in the grocery store. Those could use a subtler touch with how explicitly they allude to Lyra's problem.

I'm a little bit mystified as to Lyra's motives in leaving the ring on the grave. Certainly, people do that from time to time, but the two main reasons are typically to symbolize that they've gotten over the death to the point that they've washed their hands of it (which Lyra hasn't, since she doesn't say anything to that effect and implies she'll keep visiting), or that they've found someone else and feel that it's okay to move on (which Lyra hasn't, or she would have said so). I don't think the story's weak for not resolving this, but it's, well, unresolved.

When you're ready to resubmit, please use the "back from Mars" option.

Last edited at Wed, Feb 11th, 2015 16:58

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Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>far-away//
No need to hyphenate that.

>You needed only put a hoof down in the wrong mud and they'd yank you under fast as blinking.//
>You needed only put a hoof down in the wrong mud and they'd yank you under fast as blinking.//
>Asterius bellowed for us to form a wedge and we fell in//
>As he turned away the captain muttered//
>When he spoke again there was a new urgency to his message.//
>Time skipped and I was at her side//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>reeking smoke from whatever struck it down//
It's a completed action in a past-tense narration, so use past perfect tense. "had struck"

>rearguard//
I've never seen that as one word. There's more than one instance.

>in---//
It'd be easy to do a search and replace. An em dash is Alt+0151.

>afterimages//
You're inconsistent about whether or not you hyphenate this.

>S’gonna//
The missing letter is before the "s," not after it. 'S gonna

>but all I could hear was the keening in my ears//
This is already the third time within a page that he says he can't hear anything. It's getting repetitive.

>looming out of the night//
Set off participles with a comma.

>I dunno//
This stands out as incongruous with the rest of the language he's been using. He takes great pains to word things very precisely and with advanced word choice, so this really feels out of place.

>Funny thing is, I remember every word of their conversation.//
Okay, I think this is a mistake. You start the story by framing it as your protagonist telling it to an audience. Then you fade into the story, and it's easy to take it as reliving the events with him instead of still hearing him tell the audience. For the latter, it wouldn't make sense that he'd remember so many details about events and places, and that he'd be able to present quoted dialogue. Then here, you make the same point: that it's unusual he'd remember the exchange word for word.

If you're going to periodically go back into storyteller/audience mode, then it's better to set off the past events as separate scenes so that it's believable, like I said, that we're reliving his reminiscence instead of hearing him tell it. Or on the other hand, cut out these reversions to the speaker/audience mode so it stays in flashbacks. Either way, it's bad that you've pointed out how amazing it is that he can remember this particular conversation verbatim when he's been presenting all of them so far as such. It doesn't have the contrast you're trying to create.

>lieutenant//
When used as a term of address, ranks should be capitalized.

>south-west//
southwest

>while he mulled//
That's a transitive verb. It requires a direct object.

>‘em//
Smart quotes are bad a leading apostrophes. This is backward. But it's also dipping into the vernacular a bit much again and feeling incongruous with the fancy diction in the narration.

>It stung. Smoke twisted from a scorch mark just here, over my heart.//
Another spot where you should consider how you want to present your narration.

>He said, “My name is Renald Risarin,” chest heaving.//
That's pretty ungainly to have dialogue split narration in a single sentence that's actually a quote. Usually it's the other way around or segregated.

>“Tercáno,” said the captain in Laewtil.//
This is starting to get cumbersome. They've spoken this language before. Doing something like this is a delicate matter. If it doesn't come up much, and the characters react enough to it that I can intuit what it means, that's fine. Or if it's rare and it doesn't matter what it means, that's fine. But I'm getting the impression now that I'm supposed to be reading something into these words, and it's just not clicking with me. It's also odd that you're just now identifying the language.

>We shall pursue those refugees, and find whatever wiped out that patrol.//
That's all one clause. You don't need the comma.

>to which I will admit casting more than one longing gaze after//
The "to" is already your preposition, so having the "after" as well is redundant.

>Only, there was something odd about some of them.//
There's not a grammatical reason to have a comma there.

>with sorrow sharp on his face//
If you want me to sympathize with the character, let me see this, rather than just have the narrator directly inform me of it,

>He grit//
The only accepted past tense of that is "gritted."

>The Hart just looked lost. Abandoned.
>
>I looked to Asterius. He looked to us//

Look (heh) at all that repetition of "look."

>Asterius looked at me and I looked at him.//
Same deal.

>and those few want little part of you or I//
"Me," not "I." It's part of the compound object of a preposition.

That was well written and a nice enough story. But I have to say that I spent the vast majority of it wondering what possible relevance it had to MLP. It borrows the minotaur race, but they're so vaguely defined in canon anyway that there's nothing tying these minotaurs to Iron Will through any sort of lore or world-building. Then the deer could possibly have come from the main series comic #27, though it may be a risky bet to require readers to know comic canon.

When we finally get to see a pony, it's inconsequential that she is one; she could have easily been some wildebeest or goat or something, and it wouldn't have changed a thing. Then there's the oblique reference to Clover the Clever, but again, nothing comes of it. The fact that it's she in particular and what we know of her from canon has no impact here. She'd learned a lesson of friendship at Hearth's Warming, assuming her appearance comes after that, and she might have related it to him, though he'd already cast off his warlike attitude anyway, and past that, it's not clear that she had any effect on him.

It's one of those cases where I have to ask whether this is even an MLP fanfic. In less than five minutes, it could have all relation to MLP excised, and what's there is minor anyway. This would stand fine as original fiction.

However... while I think you'd have a stronger story by making the ties to ponies more concrete and introduced earlier, I'm not going to require you do that. It's your risk to take, since readers may have the same experience of wondering what ponies have to do with it, and they may drop away without finishing it.

The ending falls apart a little, as all these alliances dissolve, and I'm no longer sure who is supposed to be friends with whom. The pronghorn, too—your protagonist assumes he would be an ally, though the pronghorn clearly has some different insight as to the behind-the-scenes politics, yet I never understood it.

Really, the biggest issue for me was how the narrative was framed and how it breaks back in at times in a way that doesn't quite fit how the story is presented. But I've already discussed that. What I want to add here is that it can open a can of worms when you imply or explicitly declare an audience for the story. It wouldn't take much to do so here, but since it's the choice you've made, it deserves to be justified. Who is his audience? I can gather from the ending that they are ponies, but exactly who makes a big difference. Is he talking to a meeting of Celestia's political advisers? To an assembly of high-school students? At a cultural event? To a group of historians? Each one would have very different implications as to what the story means to them and what wll happen afterward as a result of hearing it.

I'm willing to cut you some slack here, because the writing is good, and we're more interested in featuring what's good than what's popular. So please fix the detailed stuff. I'd strongly recommend revising the narrative framing one way or the other to be consistent. It's a good idea to give me at least a little on the audience for the story, and I think making earlier and more obvious connections to ponies would help you retain readers, but I'll leave these last two at your discretion. With a little more work, it should be good to post.

When you're ready to resubmit, choose the "back from Mars" option.

Last edited at Tue, Feb 17th, 2015 12:19

>> No. 132088
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>roughhewn//
rough-hewn

Right about here, there's a whole lot of passive voice and "to be" verbs used in describing the farm. It's really not necessary, and it brings any sense of action to a screeching halt, which would be problematic anyway, but especially this close to the beginning of the story. You don't want to bore the reader right where you should be grabbing his interest.

>when Twi had left, she had left//
I don't see that the repetitive phrasing adds anything.

>order: Do not open the door//
Only capitalize after a colon if it refers to multiple sentences.

>On time//
I'm pretty sure you chose the wrong word there, but since there are so many possibilities of what it could be, and each means something quite different, I'm not going to suggest an alternative.

>‘er//
Smart quotes get leading apostrophes backward. You'll have to paste one in the right way or add one after this, then delete the first one.

>‘em//
Backward apostrophe again. Just do a sweep for these.

>her granny said in an iron tone//
There's precious little during this conversation to create a visual. Now, there are reasons why this might be the case, but you have to accentuate those reasons. Perhaps Applejack is distracted enough that she doesn't notice what her family is doing as they talk. But then you have to make her narration sound distracted. Or she might have her eyes closed so she can't see them. But you have to say that (and even then, she'd still hear what they're doing). I'd also say to take a look at how often you use direct address in this conversation (and possibly in the story in general—I'm writing this as I read it) and compare that to how often you actually do so in a real conversation. And it's like you forgot Apple Bloom was even there so far. She's doing something while all this is going on. Eating her dinner, reacting to what they say. Let me see it, or it's not worth placing her there.

>Maybe it was because she suspected that her granny wasn’t just talking about the carrots.//
This really smacks of an omniscient narrator, whereas you'd been taking a more subjective approach through much of the story.

>But in their place, she found only sadness.//
She doesn't act sad. I have nothing but the narrator's word to go on here.

>Truth from the mouth of foals.//
mouths

>That was where the real hurt was.//
And yet for a limited narrator, the prose doesn't sound that much like someone who's hurt or in anguish about it. The language is there, but not the inflection and emotion behind it.

>a small mop of red hair on the pillow//
Nothing about her bow?

>She smiled a small smile, and closed the door.//
No need for a comma there.

>mark: Two words carved into it in the homestead’s early days, ‘Sunset Room’.//
See previous comment about colons.

>A faint moan came from within.//
Well, now I'm a bit confused. You said the purpose of the charm was to seal off the room completely from the world. But I suppose you're only talking about matter, then? Because apparently it isn't an issue for sound to go back and forth. Light either, for that matter, since she could see in his window. Have they stuffed something in the crack under the door?

>He’s in pain. He’s in there suffering, and we ain’t even lifting a hoof to help, she thought.//
There are times you present a very personal line like this that's obviously Applejack's thought, but you do so as narration. That's one of the elegant things about limited narration. I don't see what the purpose is in declaring this to be a direct thought. There are times it could be, like a need to have the reader understand that the thought occurred this way, word for word, which is rare. Or because she needs to phrase it as "I" or "you," which the narrator can't do. But I don't see the advantage here.

>What if he----//
An em dash is usually done as 3 hyphens, but when it's so easy to produce a real one, why go for the substitute?

>She lifted her hoof from the handle, and stepped away.//
No reason to have a comma there. It's all one clause, and it doesn't clear up any ambiguity.

>Without her realising it//
Cliche alert.

>She rubbed her eyes, and thought to herself that this wasn’t fair.//
Unnecessary comma.

>took a turn for the worst//
worse

>quick fix, but not expecting one. The doctors were quick//
Watch the word repetition.

>the quickest of fashions//
There's that word again, pretty soon after.

>the attempts of her and the doctors//
That's a really awkward and clunky indirect possession.

>It would allow his body able to best fight off the infection./
Syntax is off.

>At that time, she had asked herself that question: Was she doing the right thing?//
Colon issue again.

>She closed her eyes and laid like this until her chest ached.//
Lay/lie confusion.

>fur//
Ponies technically don't have fur, but almost nobody in the fandom seems to care.

>crop”//
Missing end punctuation.

>putting on a convincing smile//
The perspective's off here again. AJ is essentially the narrator, so she's making this judgment about herself, which is odd. She wouldn't know it was convincing.

>kneejerk//
knee-jerk

>Applebloom//
Apple Bloom. As this is a common error, you might want to do a page search to make sure there aren't any others you missed.

>could would//
Typo.

>Cautiously, she pushed it open, and stepped inside.//
That second comma is unnecessary.

>the room was untidy//
>the tidiest of ponies//
Watch the repetition.

>Shouldn’t there air//
Typo.

>Twi had said that nothing could escape the seal, including smells.//
And, again, apparently not sounds or light.

>Why you acting like a frightened foal?//
And then when you do have something that must necessarily be a quoted thought, you don't cast it as one.

>She forced her muscles to relax, and breathed in deep.//
Unnecessary comma.

>in. The lamp sparked, and flared to life.//
Extraneous space and unnecessary comma.

>the food inside them mouldering and stinking of rot//
She'd specifically mentioned the lack of a smell before, so this is pretty contradictory.

>She retreated the lamp//
Missing word.

>poisonous leaves//
How can she tell they're poisonous?

>hoofs//
You spell it "hooves" everywhere else.

>She settled for silence, and backpedalled out of the room.//
Unnecessary comma.

>She was thrown into the far wall, and bounced down the hall.//
Unnecessary comma.

>It would take a while to unlock; time she didn’t have.//
Improper semicolon usage. There's no independent clause after it. Semicolons really do suggest a formalism that doesn't look right when they aren't used properly.

>And who says it will go for me?//
Another line that should be directed thought, as long as it stays phrased like this.

>It’s head turned to her//
Its/it's confusion.

>The twisted vines began to twist.//
Uh...

>landing, where she landed //
Watch the repetition.

I see the tie-in with "sunset," but that's still a weak ending. It peters out, more than it comes to a conclusion. That doesn't mean you can't have an open ending, but it still has to feel like it's come to a close.

The only other thing I'd add is that it was really strange that nowhere in the narration did you ever use her name. That'd be fine for first-person, but you have third. I don't know if it's a gimmick you were trying to employ; if so, it's not creating an effect for me. That's usually done to hide a character's identity, but you're not trying to here, so I don't see the point. It already bugged me that the first reference to her is by pronoun, since they work by antecedent, but then you never said it at all, except in other characters' dialogue.

I'm a little mystified by Twilight's explanation of the treatment she's pursuing. It prevents her from being able to check up on him, and if the main point is to force him to rest, why not just sedate him or put him into some kind of stasis?

Really, there's not a whole lot of stuff to fix here, just some things that need tweaking.
>> No. 132093
>>132088
I've taken most of the points on board, and I'm going to do and editing sweep to fix them up. The stuff that I'm not so sure about, I'll respond to here.

>There's precious little during this conversation to create a visual.//
Hm. Personally, I think this is more of an author preference thing. Gesture and setting are an important part of dialogue, but the tone I'd set for the story was fairly stripped back up until this point, and so I tried to continue that by stripping my dialogue of all but the most important physical cues. I'll take a gander and tweak it -- if it's not working, it's not working -- but it will still be stylistically similar to what it was.

What are your thoughts on the matter?

>I'd also say to take a look at how often you use direct address in this conversation//
Yeah. . . . Along with "a moment later" and "well" and "a little", this is one of the barnacles that clings to my prose. I'll cut and clean.

>And it's like you forgot Apple Bloom was even there so far//
Arguably, this is the same as the "more gesture and setting" advice, because she is there, but I haven't dedicated space to reminding a reader of that.

And I have to ask, is it necessary? I can slip in a few pointers every now and then, but I'm concerned about weakening the focus of the scene. I feel that once it's established that she is there, a reader doesn't need to be reminded. But that might just be faulty thinking on my part.

>Nothing about her bow?/
I figure she takes it off to sleep, just as Applejack, later, takes off her hair ties.

>Well, now I'm a bit confused. //
Yeah, I thought at the time that the mechanics of the spell might confuse some people. In my mind, it's a slightly elastic barrier attached to the perimeter of the room that prevents matter from crossing. But because it is slightly elastic, it can still transfer vibrations. So AJ can still hear what's happening inside, albeit slightly distorted, and she can still see in.

I might have to tweak that a little, but it's difficult seeing as AJ isn't the sort to focus too much on the technical side of magic. That's more Twilight's schtick. Still, I suppose I could have her recount something "Twi" said.

>I don't see what the purpose is in declaring this to be a direct thought//
Well, this was originally narration, but before I published it to FiMFiction, I had to go through and italicise the direct thoughts (because italics in Word don't translate to italics in FiMFic). I was a little trigger happy with the italics button

But, also, I'm not that well versed in narration-thought versus direct-thought. I thought it was more a matter of preference or style. Like how in "I am Legend", all the thoughts are not italicised, despite being direct thoughts, because of the style of that time.

Could you explain the difference, please, or at least help me understand it better? Cheers.

>why go for the substitute?//
I read a humble little book once by the name of "A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius". The author, aptly enough, is something of a linguistic genius, and when a character's line of thought derailed, he used a long dash, longer than an em dash, followed by a tab to indicate it. I was trying to replicate the same here. A bit of borrowing, I guess.

Would it be worth emphasising that, or just scrapping it and going for the 'em'?

>but almost nobody in the fandom seems to care//
And neither do I!

. . .

But really, what do they have then? Hair? Maybe 'pelt' would be more suitable, because when you say 'hair' we naturally think of the head, and that is definitely not what was going for.

>That second comma is unnecessary.//
With this comma business, I've learned to use comma's more as a tool to control rhythm than in the conventional by-the-rule sense. If it works, I'd prefer to keep them, but if it's doing nothing for you, then I might as well scrape them off.

Are there any instances when having that unnecessary comma there improves the sentence, do you think? In general, and in my story?

>but it still has to feel like it's come to a close.//
Endings are one of my (many) weaknesses. I never know how exactly to end a story. Is there some place that you feel would be more natural to stop it? I'll chew through it myself and try figure it out, but it'd be nice to know what is making it weak.

>I don't know if it's a gimmick you were trying to employ//
Basically, it's a relic of the original. I threw it in to help build ambiguity and a bit of suspense. Also, I think that AJ would think more like that, think of her family by their relationship more than by their names. It seems, to me, more instinctual. "My sister" "My brother". And the same would go for herself.

Is it something that hurts the fic particularly, do you think? If so, I can change it; but I would prefer to keep it as is, in that respect.

>I'm a little mystified by Twilight's explanation of the treatment she's pursuing//
Ah, I thought I *had* mentioned her putting him into stasis. Like, he sleeps hard during the day, but awakens at sunset and sunrise to eat. I think there is a line to that effect in there somewhere.

And I could throw in a line about what Twi is researching, but to me it doesn't seem like something AJ would particularly be bothered with. She cares about the effect, her brother getting better, and isn't caught up in the particulars. As long as Twi keeps her updated about how things are going, not *what* things are going on, she is happy. So in her mind, Twi's research is "not bearing any fruit".

tl;dr: because I don't see AJ being concerned with what the research is, and she is the perspective character.

>Really, there's not a whole lot of stuff to fix here, just some things that need tweaking.//
And tweak I shall!

Seriously, thanks for all the advice. I have only got a single comment since I posted this story, and it wasn't particularly enlightening. So having all this feedback is a godsend. Thank you :)
>> No. 132098
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>The sounds of the fire was music to Cheerilee’s ears.//
Number disagreement: sounds -> was

>a warm feeling of security and comfort//
The beginning of a story is a bad time to be telly. Focus on how this feels to her. There can be a physical warmth, but give me a couple of images that float through her mind as a result of feeling this way. Examples are much more powerful than summaries.

>shadows that bounced off of every able source//
"Available," right?

>room—projecting dark, dancing serenities every which way//
There's not a jump in train of thought or an interruption here. There's not really any call for a dash. A comma would be fine.

>The fieriness inside of her soul was rekindled by ashes and burnt logs—warm fur and a fluttery chest.//
Another unnecessary dash.

>ever loving//
Hyphenate. This is also getting pretty vague. Again, work with the imagery and sensations this brings to her.

>as it gave her another reason to close her eyes//
Fine point, but I wouldn't use a comma with this. There are two senses in which "as" can be used as a conjunction. Using a comma tends to create the feeling of "because," while going without one tends to connote "at the same time that."

>her bodily occurrences//
That's an awkward phrasing.

>given to her from herself//
Also somewhat awkwardly phrased.

>that only brought depressing thoughts to Cheerilee’s state of mind//
You just got through saying it was a joy. I could see it as ironic, but that she really enjoyed her smile and said it was a blessing. I'm getting really mixed messages here, and it's confusing.

>that gave her a reason not to make her lose her mind//
Why would she make herself lose her mind? I think there's some jumbled wording here that says something other than what you intended.

>Not a single malicious drop of the cold could touch her now.//
But you just had wintry gusts touching her fur. This is getting contradictory.

>in even worse condition//
Worse than what? She didn't say anything bad about this one.

>Forgotten Fables: Volume One, was a read that Cheerilee had been dying to get a hold of for a while.//
No reason for that comma.

>she took a liking in her job more multiple reasons//
I can't decipher this.

>The contents of the mug were still very near the top.//
Well, that's not entirely accurate, and it just sounds strange.

>With eyes as soft as the pillow propped against her//
This is limited narration in her perspective, but it's odd for her to describe her own eyes as soft. She can't see them, and it'd be an odd judgment for her to make anyway.

>she stared at the pages underneath//
Underneath what? And would that make them hard to see?

>as her orbs skimmed the vocabulary ever so daintily//
For one, "daintily" is another odd judgment for her to make about herself, but this is veering into thesaurus abuse.

>Cheerilee let out a small sigh, and absently reached for her hot chocolate.//
No need for that comma. It's all one clause.

>It took mere milliseconds for her to bring the edge of the mug up to her desperate lips.//
That's a pretty big exaggeration, and it doesn't fit the mood to make one like that.

>She could feel it light her inside aflame, making her feel an even more apparent sense of warmth. She didn’t even turn her head from her book when she set her drink back on the end table.//
Watch the close repetition of "feel" and "even."

>It was all ruined when three soft rasps came from her front door.//
I have to assume you meant "raps," as a rasp would be a really weird sound for this.

>For the first time in a while//
This indentation is off. There are probably others.

>multiple times with each movement causing her mane to slightly shift out of place.//
I don't know what that first part means, and what relevance does her mane have here? It has no bearing on the plot, and she apparently has no feelings about it one way or the other. So why mention it?

>She didn’t wish to get up, and destroy the ultimate comfort that she had spent the entire night trying to achieve.//
Unnecessary comma. I won't mark any more of these. There's a discussion on comma use with conjunctions in the resources at the top of this thread that should explain it.

>near perfect//
Hyphenate.

>a few snowflakes previous above the door//
Typo.

>visibly disheveled and tousled//
As opposed to invisibly disheveled and tousled?

>It looks like she washed her hair with something that was most certainly not shampoo.//
Verb tense.

>upon closer look//
Odd phrasing.

>sis//
As a term of address, this would be capitalized.

>back to scratch the back//
Repetition.

>Cheerilee’s pursed her lips//
Typo.

>her breath vapor//
Odd phrasing.

>C-Can//
Unless it's something like a name that has to be capitalized anyway, you only capitalize the first part of a stutter at the beginning of a sentence.

>Her blanket, book, and hot chocolate was pleading for her return//
Subject/verb number agreement.

>The teacher bit her bottom lip, irritatingly.//
This doesn't say Cheerilee was irritated. It says the way she bit her lip was irritating to someone else, but we're in her perspective, and we get no evidence of such.

>She had missed the intoxicated grin that adorned Berry Punch’s face.//
Do you mean she failed to notice it or that she was nostalgic for it? If the former, then how can the narrator, essentially Cheerilee herself, notice?

>Flipping the it open//
Typo.

>towards in its direction//
Typo, and odd phrasing anyway.

>Cheerilee didn't like that sound, at all.//
Why not? As stated, it's only a sterile fact. Make me feel that way with her through her reaction to it.

>Berry hiccupped,//
You don't need the end punctuation for an aside like this unless it's a question mark or exclamation mark.

>she wiggled a little bit, fixing her slouching posture.//
That's not a dialogue attribution.

>unwilling being brought forth//
Typo. And this would mean a lot more if I got to see a few of them.

>was slowly begin//
Typo.

>friends house//
Typo.

>Not even a second later, turned back to her sister.//
Missing word.

>As rude and uncharacteristic of her as it was, her beliefs and emotions were justified in her own mind.//
Odd sentiment, at least for how it's worded, for Cheerilee to have about herself.

>but.. I’ve//
Needs another dot.

>she let out a small groan//
Capitalization.

>What I’ve been putting everyone though.//
She keeps saying this. Which, I guess, is reasonable for a drunk person, but writing is where realism clashes with the need to entertain as well, and unless you make the repetition create an effect, it just looks like an oversight.

>a tinge of disappointment//
There's a decent amount of this type of language in the story, which directly informs me of a character's emotion. There's a discussion on show versus tell at the top of this thread. It briefly goes through the rationale of how to do this more subtly.

>Cheerilee knit her brow.//
For the transitive meaning, the proper past is "knitted."

>clear headed//
Hyphenate.

>hers’//
Possessive pronouns never have apostrophes.

>there’s//
Same, and you've confused the spelling anyway.

>I believe you, sis.//
Look how often they use direct address in this conversation. Then consider how often you actually do when you talk to someone.

>tears of her face//
Odd phrasing.

>ice cold//
Hyphenate.

>There was only a quarter of liquor left.//
Wording is off. And wine isn't generally considered liquor.

>Cheerilee’s reached out//
Cheerilee's what?

>every able part of her was covered and warmed//
What does "able" have to do with it?

>Literally//
I don't know why it's necessary to use this word. I have no reason to doubt the narrator.

Really this needs a good editing sweep to root out all the strange phrasings and mechanical problems. Aside from being a little overblown at times, Cheerilee's side of the story is nice, but Berry's is pretty generic. It doesn't do much to stand out from all of the other Berry Punch intervention fics out there. She just says she's sorry for what she put everyone through, and there are very few anecdotal references to things that might characterize their relationship so that I know what's at stake, beyond the standard sympathy the situation gets. The bit about the three-squeeze hug and their mother being surprised Berry was still alive were definitely the high points in that regard. This story could use a lot more material like that, as it's what really connects me to the characters and engages me in their struggle. And that's how you make a memorable story.
>> No. 132099
>>132093
>Gesture and setting are an important part of dialogue, but the tone I'd set for the story was fairly stripped back up until this point, and so I tried to continue that by stripping my dialogue of all but the most important physical cues.
If it were a short conversation, it wouldn't be much of an issue, but it does add a healthy touch of realism. When you're talking to a friend, do you notice him gesturing with his hands? Do you notice what face he makes in response to what you said? You want the reader's experience to mirror what real life would be like as much as possible. And just like a stock portfolio, diversification is key, in this case, diversity in the means used to convey information. We call this "talking heads," and certainly some readers are more sensitive to it than others. It wasn't horrible, or I would have mentioned it earlier, but it could use a bit more.

>And I have to ask, is it necessary?
Maybe? All I can say is that it bothered me. You made a point of having Apple Bloom there, and then I kept wondering when it was going to matter that she was. As much as AJ tries to take on the burden of the situation because of how it's affecting the rest of the family, it seems like she'd notice how Apple Bloom was reacting to the argument with Granny Smith, even if Apple Bloom keeps quiet.

>I figure she takes it off to sleep, just as Applejack, later, takes off her hair ties.
Could be. Though in "Somepony to Watch over Me," Sweetie Belle wears the bow as a disguise, and AJ wasn't surprised by it. She has it on during their sleepovers, too, in "One Bad Seed" and "The Stare Master."

>Could you explain the difference, please, or at least help me understand it better?
Well, it goes to the differences in narrative voices. An omniscient narrator has to present thoughts as quoted (or italicized). A first-person narrator has to present them as narration, unless he wants to quote himself for effect, but that'd be rare. A limited narrator can do either, though it's often best to stick to one or the other, and between the two, narrated thought is the better way to connect with the reader, since it speaks directly to him and often strikes a more personable, conversational tone. The main reasons to use quoted thought in a limited narration would be if you wanted to make sure the reader knew the thought happened exactly that way, word for word. For example, maybe it's a phrase that turns up throughout the story for thematic effect. The other would be if you needed to phrase it with "I" or "you," which a third-person narrator shouldn't do. For example, there may be a compelling reason to say:
I need to do this.
versus:
She needed to do this.

There can be a fine line of which one carries power better, but it's really only at crucial moments that it's worth making the distinction. Mainly, it's that by using quoted thought, you're having the narrator take a half-step back from the reader, yet having that close connection is the appeal of having a limited narrator in the first place.

>Would it be worth emphasising that, or just scrapping it and going for the 'em'?
It's not a point worth arguing over, really. But I didn't know to read anything into your choice of having extra hyphens there, and I can't imagine any other readers will, either.

>But really, what do they have then? Hair?/
Techincally, yes, it's hair, though "coat" is a nice catch-all term that many writers seem to like. You can get a little more descriptive than any of the three, too, if you like.

>Are there any instances when having that unnecessary comma there improves the sentence, do you think? In general, and in my story?
Yes, there are times an unnecessary comma works for helping flow or organization. You had some that didn't bother me because I thought they were justified. Any I specifically marked were places where I didn't feel a pause there, but there's certainly leeway to be given. You just have to be careful for situations where putting in an unnecessary comment actually changes the sense of what you're saying.

>Is there some place that you feel would be more natural to stop it?
For me, it's not that the story should have ended before it did or gone on to some subsequent events as much as it didn't make a point at the end. Is there a message about sacrifice or the importance of family that you want the reader to take away from the story? Then say something to that effect in the last paragraph. It just needs to feel like the plot is tied up at the end, which doesn't mean it can't be open-ended, just that it's made its point. For instance, we can still be left wondering whether AJ is infected, but that's not going to change her resolution about what she did, whether she's come to a peace that she did the right thing, whether she feels some character flaw has caused her to let her family down, or whatever you want the take-away to be.

>Is it something that hurts the fic particularly, do you think? If so, I can change it; but I would prefer to keep it as is, in that respect.
No, it was just more odd than anything. A limited narrator isn't her, but it almost is, and it's just rare to see one go without naming the character. AJ might not name herself, but she's not going to call herself "she," either. In any case, this one's not a big deal.

>Ah, I thought I *had* mentioned her putting him into stasis. Like, he sleeps hard during the day, but awakens at sunset and sunrise to eat. I think there is a line to that effect in there somewhere.
There was something about that in there, but why does he ever need to be awake? Keep him on sedatives, put him in an induced coma, whatever. They can feed him by IV, and then there's much less danger. Actually, given his condition, those efforts might fail anyway, but they couldn't have known that, and it seems like a wise precaution to at least consider.

>And I could throw in a line about what Twi is researching
It's not so much that AJ would be keeping up with the technical side of it, but it's hard to treat a patient in absentia, and the way Twilight's set it up, nobody else can. So for as long as this has been going on, she's never stopped by to see if the treatment is actually working, and then using that feedback to refine her approach if necessary? It just seems kind of irresponsible to lock him away and never check up on him again. She doesn't know what it is, so she has no idea whether it's something that takes along time to get over, but the obvious ones—disease, parasite, injury, etc.—often show significant changes within a few days. And if it turns out that it is something slow-acting, it's better to have checked on him more often than necessary than doing so not often enough.

Basically, I'm looking for a justification of why this has gone on so long, yet Twilight hasn't ever returned, particularly since those possibilities are all things that could have killed him by now if the treatment wasn't going well.
>> No. 132100
>>132099

>Yes, there are times an unnecessary comma works for helping flow or organization.//

Find and replace is a wonderful tool. I've replaced the ", and" instances where it seems erroneous, but I've left a few where I think they work to good effect.

>They can feed him by IV//
But IV bags need to be changed, which means someone would need to enter the room, which defeats the point of sealing the room.

I'll tweak it, but any solid fix would cause such a mess that it would detract from the story.

>It just seems kind of irresponsible to lock him away and never check up on him again//

Hm. Okay. I can see what you mean, and I think I can tweak the line where Apple Bloom asks Applejack if she has read the letter. I should be able to slip in some explanation.

Thanks for the catch.

>We call this "talking heads,"//

Okay, yeah. If it isn't clear, it's not clear. I'll go through and drop a few more physical cues to help illustrate the scene.

>she'd notice how Apple Bloom was reacting to the argument with Granny Smith, even if Apple Bloom keeps quiet.//

Hm. Yeah, okay, I concede this. I don't think she *has* to play a large role, but I have underused her -- especially since her reactions could slap some emotional flesh onto that skeleton of a scene.

---

Again, thanks for the feedback. I should have a modified version of the story ready by tonight :)
>> No. 132103
>>132100
>But IV bags need to be changed, which means someone would need to enter the room, which defeats the point of sealing the room.
That's kind of my point. If they'd incapacitated him through something like sedation, then he wouldn't be dangerous, plus he wouldn't need to wake up to eat, thus he'd get even more rest. So I'm not sure why Twilight goes for the setup she does. However, there is a little inkling in there that she knows more than she's letting on. It makes me wonder if she knew what long odds they faced.
>> No. 132114
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>I haven't talked to you in a while and that was a mistake. Today was bad, and I return to you broken, humiliated, and with no future.//
Look at the difference between these two sentences in how the comma is used with the conjunction between clauses. The secnd one is correct. There is some leeway for flow, but in general, if a conjunction is just separating two items of a compound structure, you don't need the comma, but if it separates clauses (each with its own subject and verb), you do. This is an issue throughout the story. Insofar as this is Sunset's writing, I can buy that it's her mistake and not yours, but that only works to a point. Then it becomes an excuse. There's a little more on this comma guideline at the top of this thread under "comma use with conjunctions."

>I started lashing out at others, pushing them away.//
There are some conventions of good writing that get relaxed for first-person narrators. For instance, this narrator can use more telly language than might be preferred. But this rule really doesn't have exceptions: examples speak far louder than generalities. Give me a couple of anecdotes here, maybe two or three one-sentence summaries of times she did this, and it makes it so much more real. It connects the character to the reader better.

>They hadn't dedicated their lives to the elements, obsessed over them, the ponies that represent the elements didn’t even try to manifest them.//
Feels like you're missing a comma. If not, there's some jumbled wording.

>So every time I saw them at school, I only felt hate, it ate at me until I drove them apart with tricks and lies.//
That last comma is a splice, and again, an example or two here would really add some flavor.

>massivly//
Typo.

>element of magic//
You're inconsistent at capitalizing these titles. You'll have to sweep for them.

So a side note on this chapter. I think you could stand to go through the movie summary more quickly. For someone who hasn't seen it, there are only a few points they'd need to be aware of to get what happened, and you're spending quite a bit of your time rehashing events many readers, particularly those who choose to read about Sunset Shimmer, will already know. This is supposed to be your hook where you grab the reader's interest. Don't tell him a bunch of things he's seen before.

>Dear Lord//
Given all the similar expressions of sun worship she's used, I'm really surprised to hear her say this. I'm not even sure what it'd mean in the context of this universe.

>the most pleasurable feeling that I can’t even describe it//
Give it a shot, at least. If she fumbles for words, fine, but a but of imagery for the intangible part and some reference to the physical symptoms of how it felt would make this more meaningful.

>near infinite//
Hyphenate.

>in it’s absence//
Its/it's confusion. This is a common enough mistake that you should sweep for it. I'll waste too much time if I end up marking every instance I see. Basically, if you're talking about ownership, you don't use an apostrophe (possessive pronounds, like "his," never have apostrophes). If you mean it as a contraction of "it is" or "it has," then it does use an apostrophe.

>helpless and alone//
Sell this with some imagery.

>Speaking of Flash//
Most times, you'll set off a participle with a comma.

>who really went out of the way to help me//
Out of his way

>I didn’t realized//
Typo. And good work through here. These little touches on what they did, a couple of dates, him showing her how to play guitar, they really add flavor and authenticity to the relationship so that it seems real, not just something you expect me to believe.

>Those memories I have make those choice tantalizing.//
Typo.

>is//
Assuming that she's writing this out by hand, it's not really feasible to write in italics. Most often, people will emphasize something they've written by underlining it or making it darker or in all capital letters.

>After I was defeated//
Comma after the dependent clause.

>I was assigned I had to repair some damage//
Seems like you changed your mind about what to say and forgot to erase some.

>I hate Mondays//
Same issues with the italics. Just keep this in mind through the rest of the story. I won't mark any more.

>I can’t risk anymore screwups.//
You're not using it as an adverb, so "any more" needs to be two words.

So my thoughts at the end of the prologue:

It seems odd to call it that. It's a legitimate diary entry. It's not something she wrote for the purposes of setting up the rest (though that was your purpose), since she didn't know yet what the rest was. You might reconsider calling it that.

Some readers skim prologues or skip them altogether, because they want to get to the good stuff. That might be another good reason the change it, but that also depends on what you want to do with it. I've already said that having so much exposition of things many readers will already know isn't going to help draw interest very well. I see that someone in the comments had the same problem with it. So if you really want to call it a prologue, it might get some of the fussier readers to skip it and get into the meat of the story, and while that does mean they'd be missing some good writing and characterization, they wouldn't be missing anything they need to know. And a nonessential chapter isn't a good thing. You do fine when you're focusing on Sunset's emotional response to what happened, and really, you could cut the chapter to just drop that—leave out the exposition of canon events, but keep her reaction to the aftermath, her recounting of what came before the movie, and the little anecdotal pieces that get us in her head.

Last bit before we move on: many readers know what an epistolary story is, even if they don't know the proper term for it. It becomes immediately apparent that this story is one, so it feels really heavy-handed for you to explain it in depth in your synopsis, or, frankly, for you to explain it at all. Readers don't like feeling as if they're being talked down to, and it's an immersion-breaking speed bump between the story summary and the actual story. I'd suggest losing it, or at least moving it to an author's note at the end.

>Day 2 of being a betterpony//
Missing space

>I don’t want to laugh while those I’ve already hurt die around me.//
This entry feels like she's holding back, but maybe you didn't intend it that way. I don't see a reason why she would. She's in utter turmoil here, and yet the word choice and phrasing don't really reflect that. Though her actions show one thing, she sounds pretty calm.

>When I woke up my trailer//
You need a comma for the dependent clause, or it sounds like Sunset woke her trailer up.

>waste//
Might need smoe clarification. I think you mean garbage, but you might mean someone took a dump on her doorstep.

>Mayonnaise//
Why is this capitalized?

>business oriented//
Hyphenate.

>I think I’d like that//
Missing end punctuation.

It's striking me as odd that the daily entries are labeled "being a better pony," so she must have written that herself, right? And yet she's not actively doing anything to make herself better, just wallowing in self-pity and withdrawing from everything. You might want to change some of the heading s to reflect her attitude better (easier option) or add in some of her actually trying to improve already (tougher option).

>It made me kind of nervous. I especially needed to be accepted by the school heroes.//
This seems kind of blunt, not necessarily for a diary, but for something I'm reading for entertainment. It could use some more personal impact. Like instead of "It made me kind of nervous," try something like "Why would they even come here? I doubt they'd try their hand at tossing some eggs, too, but maybe they just wanted to yell at me. I nearly slammed the door and ran back inside."

>Not just because they held the greatest sway over my future//
Well, I'm not so certain about this. Yes, in terms of helping her mold her personality (if she even believes that yet, but not in terms of being important people at school. They were never portrayed as people who exerted much social influence. Eh, maybe Dash. But they didn't even in the second movie, after they'd won the day.

>But Pinkie Pie didn’t seem to mind and gave me a big hug.//
Wouldn't this surprise her a lot?

>these past few year//
Typo.

>On one hoof hand//
She's been there for years already and mocked Twilight for not being able to assimilate quickly. I doubt she'd make this kind of mistake.

>By the time I had gotten showered, brushed my teeth, and dressed//
Comma after the dependent clause.

>trashcan//
trash can

>I was completely shocked at the effort these girls had put in//
Again, let the narrative voice carry this emotion. This is more how you have to do showing in first-person. She's not going to talk about her own facial expression and posture like a third-person narrator could, but you can still imply emotion through what she says as the narrato and how she says it. "Why? Why would they do that for me? I must have stood there five minutes, staring at them like an idiot, before I remembered that the one thing I could do in return was to avoid making them late." Something like that. You go on to cover some of this idea anyway, so this is just an example.

>after the hooligans had run rampant//
Watch your word choice. This sounds awfully formal and not at all like her. She's writing this in a very informal setting and for herself only, so it should sound very casual and off the cuff, not rehearsed and fancy. You don't want to lose that authenticity.

>I couldn’t even manage a thank you//
In this sense, use a hyphen with "thank-you."

>After fifteen minutes we made it to school, on time,//
That last comma is a splice.

>various degrees of hate, fear, and disgust meeting my gaze//
Give me a couple of examples of what they do. The tomato thing is nice, but let me see a little more. And the "meeting my gaze" is another example of a formal phrasing that sounds out of place for the format.

>I had no idea that she had it in her.//
Seems like she might use an exclamation point here, and if it truly surprised her, it probably warrants a little more mention than this.

>berating//
That's too unusual a verb to use twice in the same paragraph, let alone the same page, without there being some thematic reason for doing so, where the repetition itself carries some meaning.

>I’m not surprised Rainbow did, she’s the sports star and was right next to me.//
Comma splice. I'm starting to see more of these. They hadn't been a problem earlier.

>teachers desk//
Missing apostrophe.

>Then she’d turn to Applejack and said something//
Inconsistent verb forms.

>on it’s own//
Its/it's confusion.

>we were suppose to do//
Verb form.
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>Professor Snowflake//
It's a high school. They shouldn't have professors.

>falling bunny//
This is brilliant.

>best tasting//
Hyphenate.

>left me feeling happy about the conversation//
Focus more on the effects than summing it up as "happy." What physical sensations does it give her? How has her impression of Applejack changed?

>No telling what people would do with you, Dairy.//
She likes that milk, huh?

>Be it the tantalizing call of power//
Watch that unnatural formalism again.

>I’m suppose to//
Verb form.

>Goodnight//
Two words, and you're missing the end punctuation.

>The school has to be treating them as bad as me and they don’t have anyone helping them.//
You have a point there. They never suffered any ill effects for their involvement. People glared at Sunset but ignored Snips and Snails.

>still surprises me sometimes. Still//
Watch for repeating all but the most mundane of words that close together.

>I guess Rarity has a knack for details, no wonder her clothing always looks so professional.//
Comma splice.

>I knew he wasn’t happy to see me. I guess that’s why I haven't seen him.//
The phrasing here is pretty repetitive.

>Dammit, all to Hell.//
Unnecessary comma, and you haven't been capitalizing that. Incidentally, the use of all caps in this entry is far more appropriate than the use of italics in the prologue.

>There.
>
> I.
>
> Applejack, she//
First, I'm not sure why these are indented. Second, this is really a speech affectation, which doesn't translate into writing well. This is one of the few times that I think strikethroughs might be appropriate. In a letter, I hate seeing them, because the person writing the letter typically isn't in a hurry or has no reason why they can't just get a clean sheet of paper and start over. But a diary entry may well be written in a moment of passion, and she might not want to waste the finite number of pages by starting over. So I think they'd be justified here and more authentic at trying to get across what you want here.

>Snail//
Typo.

>they. They.//
Again, this isn't a writing affectation. It comes across as trying to imitate more how she'd say it, and it just doesn't work.

>I just cried until I fell asleep, I think.//
On her lawn? Or did they take her inside? Let me also warn you here against "piling on." It's a good idea to limit bad things to the minimum needed to make the plot work. When you load on a bunch more than is necessary, it cheapens the effect. Less is often more.

>when I ripped their souls from their bodies and consuming them//
Verb form inconsistency.

>phantom echoes of power to fulfill my every desire//
You're losing that feel of natural writing again. This sounds way too rehearsed.

>I don’t know how long I laid there.//
I haven't marked it, even though I've seen this same mistake before: lay/lie confusion. But she's a high school kid, and I bet she actually makes this mistake. Though if you want it to be correct, use "lay." "Laid" requires a direct object, so in past tense, you laid your head down, but you lay down.

>I instantly felt a mix of relief and embarrassment.//
Again, let the narrator carry this a bit without explicitly saying it. "Soomeone actually came to help, but did they know? Could they tell what I'd been thinking? I was sure they did, and I couldn't look at them until Pinkie hugged me and Fluttershy warned her she probably shouldn't move me and Rarity called an ambulance." Stuff like that. Get at the emotion a little indirectly.

Edit: wow, I wrote that before I read the next paragraph, and I got 2 of 3 dead on. Heh.

>at the same time their mere presence helped me stop clawing for that aetherial power that eluded me//
Sounding unnatural again.

>whom I wanted to crush, who I enjoyed splitting up//
Odd that she gets it right once and wrong once. Both of these should be "whom."

>I think I keep trying to say I was fine, but I think//
Watch the repetitive phrasing.

>I probably should have asked Rainbow Dash, she’s the element of loyalty after all, but I was worried that she might tell someone on accident.//
You should replace those commas with dashes.

>apparently//
You're using this word an awful lot lately. This is the third time on this page. And there's a fourth not long after.

>she could have been seriously hurt helping you me//
Extraneous word.

>led me down my dark path. It lead me into hell. Now that I’ve been lead//
You got the first one right but the next two wrong.

>There are an infinite number of paths in life, I’m not wasting my second chance.//
Comma splice.

>Twilight Sparkle Princess Twilight Sparkle//
Not sure what you were doing here.

>But just because I think highly of myself//
This seems really inconsistent with her message. She's been saying that she was basically pretty contemptible and deserved the abuse she got, but now she comes across as quite the opposite, that she's better than those who attacked her, so they're not worth justifying with her attention. Either one could work, conceptually, but the former is the way you've been playing her, and it's a pretty abrupt shift.

>I know that I’m not the best person//
And now she's backtracking. She needs to have a steady attitude here. It's jumping around.

>others be destroy my place//
Extraneous word.

>This morning I called the officer who was in charge of the case of my attack. I said I was ready to talk about my attack in detail, including who attacked me.//
I haven't really been marking these, but there are definitely places where you repeat a word or phrase several times in a close space. Yes, someone really writing a diary might do this. But you're also telling a story, so you have to make it entertaining, too.

>She said I was doing the right thing.//
I think Sunset is really downplaying this, and she shouldn't be. Put yourself in Applejack's place. She might still be a little angry. Did she know Sunset was going to do this before she actually picked up the phone? Either way, she'd be pretty emphatic about supporting Sunset's decision, and that would have made more of an impression that just a brief mention that she said it was right. You're missing an opportunity here to characterize both Applejack and their relationship.

>I had to skip over anything magical//
Why? Isn't it pretty much public knowledge at this point?

>apologise to them and give them a chance to apologize//
British and American spellings are both fine, but don't mix them.

>I didn’t want to push them down the road anymore than I already had.//
Another spot where you're not using it as an adverb, so you need "any more" to be two words.

>If I don’t even try to explain to them, then how am I suppose to expect them to act any different.//
"Supposed," and it's a question, right? She seems to be covering the same ground multiple times here. She keeps going on about why she doesn't want her attackers punished for her sake, and it's getting repetitive. It dilutes the message, and it makes for a more boring entry. This entry could stand to be trimmed back.

>Ug//
Usually spelled "ugh."

>At first I thought it might just be a pony thing, we tend to be a bit more communal and peaceful after all.//
Comma splice.

>After talking with a few of my attackers, however, I realized they felt bad about what they did to me too, and after talking with them//
More repetitive phrasing.

>hand write//
As used here, hyphenate this.

>everyone of them//
"Every one" needs to be two words in this usage.

>After fixing the pitching machine for the baseball team//
It's reasonable to assume they'd have a baseball team, but in the first movie, Dash is specifically mentioned as being on the softball team, which would probably also use the machine.

>replacing the mascot uniform//
I guess I can't believe that Rarity wouldn't have done this long ago.

>jobs opportunities//
Typo.

>It also sounded like fun; something new for me to experience with my new friends.//
Misused semicolon. There's no independent clause after it.

>Back to my day; Fluttershy and Rarity didn’t have anything to do until the barn raising//
Misused semicolon. Actually, a colon would work here.

>a subjects//
Typo.

>different points of views//
Typo.

>black skinned//
Hyphenate.

>resume//
You put the accent marks on it before. Either is fine, but be consistent. In a diary, she's probably not going to bother using them.

>it seemed to bother her//
How so? What did she do?

>mix of helplessness, thankfulness, and anger//
Better to show what kinds of thought these cause to go through her head than to name the emotions directly.

>hands on//
Hyphenate.

>it’s tail//
Its/it's confusion.

>I sound a little bland there, don’t I.//
It's a question, right?

>Better safe then sorry.//
Then/than confusion.

>twenty minute//
In this usage, hyphenate.

>family of the Apple Family//
Redundant.

>But honestly working together, trying to be there for each other, doing nice things, and even just having fun; that’s what friendship is about.//
Misused semicolon. This one feels like it should be a dash.

>farm fresh//
Hyphenate.

>I think. I think
You're trying to force a speech affectation into writing again.

>you could imagine. I couldn’t imagine//
Repetitive.

I don't really have any great insights here, as it didn't have any overarching flaws, just the stuff I already pointed out. It used the diary format more realistically that the majority of stories I see, and I honestly can't figure out why it has such a pedestrian vote ratio. Though looking into the statistics more, it got most of those downvotes in chapter 1, which as I said, doesn't have as much going for it as the other chapters, since it's largely a movie recap. I also do want to make sure you have a real ending planned, where some conflict is resolved in a meaningful way or some watershed moment in character development occurs.

On a side note, I'm impressed by the progress you've made. It must have been about three years ago that I reviewed a story for you in The Training Ground, and while I tried to give you what help I could, it had a lot of issues with it. But you apparently kept working at it through the years, and now I see that Seattle's Angels featured it. I haven't read it since all those years ago, but this story is such a huge improvement over what you'd written then.
>> No. 132116
>>132114
Thank you for your detailed feedback. The fact that you took the extra time to go above and beyond means a lot to me as does your vote of confidence.

I just finished looking over the prolog and had a few comments and clarrifying questions.

Commas. Yeah, commas are the bane of my existance. I'm getting better but it I still somehow manage to write in a way that seems to have both to many commas, and still need more. If there is one thing that will most likely get this returned a second time it would likely be comma usage and I will be honest about that.

Dear Lord is actually a joke that is very small in the fandom. You have Princess Celestia, head of the pony realms, and the Dear Lord, in charge of the dear relms. It's something not a lot of people use, but there is a small number of us in the fandom who enjoy that joke, probably only a few thousand. It also happens to play into a larger comment on Sunset, that being that she kept that exclimation because it also fits in with the himan world.

Just to confirm what you said about the "Speaking of Flahs let's..." line. It would become "Speaking of Flash, let’s..." correct?

You say this "Those memories I have make those choice tantalizing.//" is a typo, but I can't find it. The one possibile 'fix' in this "Those memories I have, they make those choice tantalizing to do again." But I don't think that fixes what you meant.


I have the first chapter as a pro-log because some people care more about the events of a story and this chapter has few real new events. It's very much a character story so I let people know that the first chapter can be skipped by calling it a prolog. You mentioned that it sets up the story but that it's not Sunset's goal to set up the story, it's mine. I agree but I don't understand how this relates to me calling the story a prolog.

As to explaining Epistolary, that's more complicated. I really find Epistolaries facinating, but I also find that a lot of people miss things about them and will complain about the story in the exact way that they miss something. In short, I posted the story to a few comment groups on FIMFiction and some people latched on easily to the nature of an epistolary while others got really excited when they learned about it but missed it when they looked over the story the first time.

My explination does kind of talk down to some readers, but the ones who get it will likely understand that it's there for others while most people who need the explination will learn from it. Even if they feel a little talked down to it can help the people who benifit from the information to enjoy my story and other stories better. If they choose not to read the story because of it then I am willing to accept that so that others who do read it can enjoy it more.

I'll probably look over another chapter or two tonight, but if I don't I wanted to make these comments now.

Thanks agin for the help and encouragment.
>> No. 132118
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>she knew that she’d spent another night passed out at her desk//
Since you go on to show me anyway, what's the need to say it outright?

>Swallowing several gulps, Twilight sighed with bliss//
Really watch when you directly identify an emotion or mood like this "with bliss." Along with prepositional phrases like that, other shief offenders include adverb forms (happily) and outright stating it (He was sad). Also note that participles imply concurrent action, so you have her sighing and swallowing at the same time, which is an impressive feat to pull off.

>He set both plates on the simple kitchen table rather than waddling all the way over to the dining room and hopped into his seat right as Twilight entered.//
The timeline gets a little foggy here, too. Keep in mind that your narrator's stayed in Twilight's perspective, so until she gets to where she can see him, she can't describe what he's doing, and neither can the narrator.

>imitation pig flesh//
Okay, this really raises some questions. Why have an imitation form of something ponies wouldn't eat in the first place?

> just a foot away from the tantalizing aroma of succulent foodstuffs her number one assistant had prepared for her that day.//
This is very repetitive with her already having smelled it earlier in the same paragraph.

>Crossing the kitchen floor in a gait that simultaneously made all the wyrms in the world bury themselves in their hordes out of shame of being associated to this purple spawn//
While amusing, does Twilight really think this? You've been using a limited narrator in her perspective, so that's the implication.

>protecting her old foalsitter from Spike’s wayward comment//
Again, don't over-explain a character's motivation for something they've said or done. Sometimes no explanation is needed, and when one is, it should be subtle and delicate—implied, not stated overtly. You want to leave the reader room to figure it out on his own, but give him the right clues so that he reaches the conclusion you want him to. Focus on what she says, what she does, how she looks (body language, facial expression) to get the emotion across.

>as she thought of taking Cadance to all her favorite places, like Sugarcube Corner, where visions of sugar plums danced through her head.//
Instead of telling me this, show it. What does she imagine? How does it look? What do they do?

>“Busy today… what do you mean, Spike?”//
When it doesn't fit the syntax to be a continuation of the same sentence, capitalize after an ellipsis.

>The purple alicorn//
Watch using these kinds of descriptors. There's not really a reason to do so.

>Puzzled, she rubbed a chin with her hoof//
See, don't tell me she's puzzled. The rest already gets that across. There's a brief explanation of why this works in the section on show versus tell at the top of this thread.

>Twilight swallowed hard, her shaky forelimb slowly lowering back to the ground.//
This is how to do it right. All I get is the raw evidence of her appearance and behavior, plus the preceding indirect thought delivered by the narrator. You haven't ever said how she feels, but I can determine it easily.

>with her anxiety//
More telling.

>While she thought//
Don't tell me she thought it. That's already apparent from the fact that the limited narrator in her perspective is saying what she thought. This is redundant and distancing.

>whiplash stall-dive//
Sorry, I'm an aerodynamicist in my day job. "Stall-dive" is a pretty nonsensical thing, and something like a pegasus wing isn't going to have a sudden stall, so "whiplash" doesn't ring true, either.

>For those of you who aren’t even close to Rainbow Dash’s level, that means she was going to go really fast and stuff.//
It's a really clunky thing to address the reader like this, unless you established from the start that it was going to happen regularly. Plus it opens a can of worms as to why I'm there and why the narrator wants to talk to me.

>Spiraling out of the latest set of dives and twirls, Rainbow Dash slid to a stop//
More synchronization problems. She'd slide to a stop after spiraling out, not at the same time.

>80’s//
’80s. And make sure the aspostrophe goes the right direction. Smart quotes always get that wrong on the front of a word. It'll work if you just cut and paste the existing one over there.

>painfully pink and heart-themed buildings//
This is coming across with no flavor. Dash is your narrator here. What does she think about them? What's her reaction to a few details? Carry this through what she says and how she says it. As a blunt fact without an emotional basis backing it up, it's pretty dry.

>because it’d been four paragraphs into her scene//
Meta-humor like this has been done often enough that it's pretty cliched by now. You want your story to survive on something more substantial than gimmicks.

>poorly-concealed//
When the first part of a two-word descriptive phrase is an -ly adverb, you don't use a hyphen.

>punji//
The word choice implies Dash would know what this is and be inclined to use the term. I'm not convinced, without some explanation as to how she'd be familiar with it.

>frazzled purple alicorn//
What about her makes her seem frazzled? And maybe you should read the section at the top of this thread about Lavender Unicorn Syndrome.

>was reinforcing//
You're using a lot of these past participles. What do you lose by converting them to simple past tense? And then you also get rid of some boring "to be" auxiliary verbs.

>blatantly ignoring the finely crafted piece of narrative that told the audience as much.//
C'mon. This is a really tired joke.

Strikethroughs in narration.
I'm out.
>> No. 132119
>>132116
>Just to confirm what you said about the "Speaking of Flahs let's..." line. It would become "Speaking of Flash, let’s..." correct?
Yes.

>You say this "Those memories I have make those choice tantalizing.//" is a typo, but I can't find it. The one possibile 'fix' in this "Those memories I have, they make those choice tantalizing to do again." But I don't think that fixes what you meant.
"Those choice" has a plural/singular mismatch.

>I have the first chapter as a pro-log because some people care more about the events of a story and this chapter has few real new events. It's very much a character story so I let people know that the first chapter can be skipped by calling it a prolog. You mentioned that it sets up the story but that it's not Sunset's goal to set up the story, it's mine. I agree but I don't understand how this relates to me calling the story a prolog.
It's because it implies there's something different about this. But it's not an explanatory passage that sets up the rest of the story. It's just another diary entry. By calling it a prologue, you're implying Sunset had some related purpose in writing it, but she didn't. She's not providing context to frame how the rest of the diary goes. She just starts writing the first of many entries. You're kind of working at cross-purposes here.

>If they choose not to read the story because of it then I am willing to accept that so that others who do read it can enjoy it more.
It just makes things look amateurish to do this. Let your work stand on its own.
>> No. 132131
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

First off, let me say that I enjoyed the story, so I took care to dig deep here and provide plenty of feedback not only on what would get it over the threshold for posting, but also what I think it could do to really shine.

>Night settled abruptly on Canterlot.//
That's pretty close to a weather-report opening. It's also not doing much as a hook. I mean, I'm not going to refuse to post the story if you don't change it. I just think you can do better.

>The castle felt so different, looked so much more menacing at night, even though the bright moonlight made it easy to see.//
Since Celestia is the only character mentioned so far, this statement would appear to be in her perspective. But then you move on to Spike. So whose opinion is this? If Spike's then establish him as the perspective character before you start making subjective statements for him.

>Spike walked through the hallways slowly, cautiously. Every shadow felt like a threat, a hiding spot for some dangerous creature.//
Except I don't get to see any of this in his narration or behavior. Have him jump at an unexpected sound, muse in the limited narration that the spiky shadow he sees might be a razorbacked... something. In the latter part of the paragraph and the following couple, you do, but it's delayed until after the factual statement here, so it's muted by then, less immediate, like it's not actually bothering him that much. Keepp him in the moment, reacting to these things the instant he sees them.

>Nearly the entire castle separated his room near//
>towers. Her door towered//
Quasi-repetitive there.

>The picture of her cutie mark embossed in the wood alone dwarfed him, the door handles seemed so far out of his reach.//
Comma splice, which might be a stylistic fit, but if so, it'd help to emphasize it by doing it more and adopting something closer to a stream of consciousness to the narration.

>she still looked imposing//
I feel like I'm nitpicking here, but these types of things are what's keeping the story just over the edge of being really immersive. As stated, this is just a fact. It doesn't mean anything to me. How does her appearance make him feel? What images flash through his mind, what physical symptoms do the emotions cause?

>Spike paused.//
For some reason, authors love this sentence, but it's utterly bland. What happens during the pause? It's obviously supposed to carry some meaning that he pauses, but what connotes that meaning even better is his or Celestia's behavior.

>He had taken a while to work up the nerve to cross the castle.//
How so? Did he give himself a pep talk? Did he convince himself it was to Twilight's benefit? This could be a good characterization moment for him.

>Why don’t you come inside, this hallway is rather dark and drafty.//
Splice.

>it still looked imposing//
You already said that.

>Even with the curtains drawn//
You already have one of these "even" qualifiers in the paragraph. It feels repetitive.

>The walls were littered with bookshelves, packed with books and rocks and metal instruments and ten thousand other things Spike couldn’t recognize.//
Do any of them catch his eye? Do any of the rocks look appetizing? This is kind of a tangent thing, but if you can place something in the room that'll show up periodically, it can be a great way to tie things together and add a spark of realism. Maybe it just keeps grabbing his attention or something. Better yet, maybe it's symbolic of the story's message.

>walk all the way over here//
She used that exact phrasing already.

>knelt down again//
Wait, when did she get up? The "swept Spike into her room" wouldn't necessarily mean she did.

>at least not in a way that a child could see.//
This is breaking from the narrator's perspective. You're either going to Celestia's head or backing off to an omniscient viewpoint. But I don't see the advantage of either.

>Celestia sighed, then settled slowly onto the bed.//
This suggests she was above it or at least level with it. But you had her on the floor next to it, so it doesn't quite jive. Notice that you're skimping on having Spike do anything between bits of dialogue relative to Celestia.

>Celestia wrapped a wing around Spike.//
Last time you mentioned her wing, it was already around him. When did that change?

>Spike nodded. “I don’t mind.”//
Look how many times you use this structure. Short narrative. "Short quote." I'm not going to call it problematic yet, as you do mix up a few paragraphs where the dialogue comes first. But you might want to get into a bit more narration here and there to vary the length of these paragraphs.

>Ages ago, Equestria was still tiny. A powerful creature had tried to hurt the ponies, and he had caused immeasurable damage. There were two sisters, an older one and a younger one, one white and one blue. They had defeated the powerful creature, just barely, and every pony showered them with praise and admiration. But that’s a different story.//
This is all very vague and simply phrased. That's not a problem in itself. I'm just pointing it out, since I might need to refer to it later. For now, I'm going to presume that you want to create a children's story feel as Celestia relates the tale to Spike. We'll see if you can maintain that tone.

>We have not defeated the creature yet; we must repair all the damage he has caused.//
Okay, this may be overdoing it. The narration just said exactly the same thing. If that's intentional, I think it may be aiming for an audience younger than Spike.

>But those are different stories.//
You already used that conceit. At the beginning was fine, since we hadn't gotten into the tale yet. But here, it's kicking me out of the narrative. It's like when someone is telling a joke, then has to backtrack. It just puts a huge speed bump in there.

>“What has happened here?” The two sisters asked.//
Capitalization.

>The sisters turned, and saw a cloaked quadruped in the shadow of a tree.//
I've caught you doing this a few times, but the prior ones were on the edge of being justified. You generally aren't going to use a comma when there are merely two items of a compound structure. You will when there are actually separate clauses. There's a brief discussion of that at the top of this thread under "comma use with conjunctions."

>That dragon is not plain//
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Probably "ordinary," but when used in isolation like this, it usually refers to appearance, not capabilities.

>but that’s a different story.//
This is really getting repetitive, and it's also bad to keep pointing out that your story has loose ends. The reader's going to think of this anyway.

>““Farewell, then, and good luck to you. You will certainly need it, too!”//
Extra quotation marks.

>the stranger took their leave//
"Her," not "their." I know it's become acceptable to use that as a singular, but there's no reason to obscure the stranger's gender, and as this story is trying to sound ancient, it wouldn't follow modern practices anyway.

>thickened, the sky darkened, and the air grew thicker//
Watch that repetition.

>It looked like a jagged wound in the sky//
To whom? They sure don't react to it as if it does. Unless you want to qualify this as someone's opinion, just have that narrator state it as a fact without dithering on the "looked like" bit.

>The mountain was hollow despite its size//
I'm not sure how size correlates with likelihood of being hollow.

>It reminded the sisters of a shell whose animal had been ripped out.//
This image can work, but tie the violent image of "ripped out" to something about the place. because otherwise, how would it be any different than comparing it to a shell whose animal had abandoned it?

>She was not roughly cut or jagged like other dragons were, she was sleek and thin and elegant.//
You just used "jagged" not long ago, and there's a comma splice.

>Coins of every metal//
Maybe specify "precious" metal? Because there are many that would be impractical to use for coins, like lead or tungsten.

>Cups and vases and furniture lined the walls, and gems and jewels and crystals piled in the corners.//
The way you've phrased that, the gems actually moved to pile themselves in the corners.

>equipage//
Remember this is a kid's tale. Your language is getting a bit advanced for that in this spot.

>fire leaked from her mouth and nostrils//
You already used that.

>“Disgraceful ponies, dare you wake me up?” she said in a whisper that shook the mountain, “What makes you brave the wrath of waking me? The Dragon’s Mother hates to be disturbed.”//
By having commas on both ends of the attribution, you've implied that the parts of the quote on both sides of it form a single sentence, but they don't. You already acknowledge that by putting end punctuation on the first part.

>your highness//
The honorific would be capitalized.

>crunching gravel//
That's not exactly a rumble.

>being amplified by a concert hall//
A concert hall doesn't amplify sound. It's just designed not to deaden it.

>A pair of dainty little ponies dare, to come and challenge Tiamat to a game?//
There is no grammatical reason to have a comma there.

>‘Tis//
Smart quotes break on leading apostrophes. This is backward. You can type two and erase the first or paste one in the right way. Scan for these, as it happens more than once.

>Were you to win//
Needs a comma after the dependent clause.

>which the hotter of the two//
Missing word.

>“What was the first name ever given?” the two sisters asked.//
So they were right? I guess so, since they moved on to asking their next question, but Tiamat never acknowledged so. I also wonder how the ponies know whether Tiamat's answers are correct. Do they trust each other to go on the honor system?

>None; this mountain’s wholly made of granite.//
Which contains quite a bit of silica, and thus would become sand when pulverized.

>Now the sisters were stumped.//
There are a couple places in here where they use a fairly modern and informal wording which doesn't match the overall tone.

>The younger sister was getting annoyed.//
You can get away with being telly in a children's story, but this is a pretty climactic moment. I'd try selling this more through her body language.

>the scorch marks and melted coins on the floor stopped just short of their feet, both completely unharmed.//
Capitalization.

>Celestia smiled.//
You used an extra line break to set off the beginning of the inner story, so why not the end?

>Celestia fought the urge to frown. Twilight was still bowing.//
I'm not sure this was a good choice. The opening scene had been in Spike's perspective, and the story was for his benefit. Then we never go back to him afterward. It seems like a disconnect. I wonder if it wouldn't work better to put the opening scene in Celestia's perspective to unify the whole thing but that would mean trimming off the part before Spike gets to her room, since she wasn't there to witness it. Or make it so that she does see it, I suppose.

>in thought//
These telly prepositional phrases are almost always redundant with information already in the story, as this one is.

>the look of satisfaction and pride//
You're not in the fairy tale anymore, so you don't have a good excuse to be telly. Show me what this looks like.

>there is boat//
Missing word.

>I suppose that just seems, disingenuous.//
Commas aren't for dramatic pauses. There isn't a grammatical reason to have one there.

>The sheer cuteness of it helped override her discomfort at the meaning.//
You're using a fairly subjective narrator. This would work better through narrative comment to get at it indirectly.

I'm not quite sure what to make of that ending. Celestia's made her argument, then something a little extraneous happens, and then Celestia appears to make a very sarcastic comment to Twilight. Maybe she's saying this in earnest, but it comes with a rather fine point on it. And the focus seems to have moved away from Spike finding his place in society to Twilight learning about subtlety in politics.

Anyway, I really liked this story, but it needs a little tune-up. It should be clear which items I noted were just suggestions for what I thought would make the story stronger and which ones are actual problems. The biggest in my mind are that it could use some unity of perspective and message, and pay attention to keeping a fairy-tale feel through the middle section, where the language gets a bit too advanced in places.

When you're ready to resubmit, please choose the "back from Mars" option. It shouldn't take more than a skim to check again. If you have questions, feel free to ask here or respond through the email.
>> No. 132143
Finally got around to the changes. I still need to go back and do a general look over for things like comma usage and the more univeral issues you gave examples for. Still, I am very happy with the feedback you gave and will hopefully resubmit next week.

In reguards to your inquiery about the ending. The ending is written, it's one more chapter. I have the first half as a 3rd person conversation between Sunset and the girls where they are reacting to Sunset showing them her diary. A few other things are followed up on as well such as getting the school to at least leave her alone and her fitting in with her job. A large part of making it a 3rd person section is to show that they really do get along now. It also highlights how far she has come when, in the second part, she doesn't cover every detail with her diary as they have replaced it as her best friend. She still covers a few more loose ends. My editors/pre-reader feel like it's a good ending and I got someone to help out who had read the story in one go on her own to get an outside opinion. If it sounds sudden you aren't the only one. When I got to that chapter I was surprised when I realized that it would be the last.

If would would be interested in looking over the google doc as follows, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-L9HAPwtPwxb6D_BYbv9ozzCxO-tMCp7FjFenHPPg6E/edit

In reguards to the story you helped on so long ago, Excessive Worry, I had no idea you were the same person. Quite a coincidence but thank you very much for the vote of confidence. It's been a long road but I feel like I am finally coming into my own as a writer and a large part of that is because of you helping so long ago. Also editing. Thanks dyslexia.

I did have a few follow up things about your comments.

You said ">waste//
Might need smoe clarification. I think you mean garbage, but you might mean someone took a dump on her doorstep."
-The idea was that it was a dump, however it was worded so that the people who wouldn't pick up on that, and would likely be more offended, wouldn't see that as easily.

you said ">Professor Snowflake//
It's a high school. They shouldn't have professors."
-Some schools in America actually do, usually they are professors at colleges part time but when that is the case they do sometimes go by professor. Additionally boarding schools, some private schools, and schools in other countries often have professors. As EQ isn't explicitly in America, and the type of school isn't explicitly stated, I took a liberty here.

you wrote
">I’m suppose to//
Verb form."
So it would be supposed?

You said "Less is often more."
-in reguars to Sunset being hurt. That's actually what I was going for, to an extent. I wanted to show her actually sharing her feelings with the diary, venting to it, and making it less impactful.

"You should replace those commas with dashes."
Rainbow Dash dashingly dashes through Dashing Dash's rainbow dashing dash course. Dashing rainbow like around dashing rainbow stallions over dashes of rainbow salt.

You wrote,"Twilight Sparkle Princess Twilight Sparkle//
Not sure what you were doing here."
- It didn't copy over correctly from gdocs, actually none of them have. Damnit. I'm going back to fix all those by hand.


You said ">replacing the mascot uniform//
I guess I can't believe that Rarity wouldn't have done this long ago."
- I figure she wouldn't really have been anywhere with the mascot for a sports team.

I think that's it. I'll resubmit when I can look over the more persistant issues.

And thanks again for all your help. I know a lot of people don't treat pre-reader with the respect or thanks you deserve but you should know that a lot of us really do appreciate the work you do.

Last edited at Mon, Mar 16th, 2015 05:55

>> No. 132147
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Fluttershy was being treated to an uncomfortably close-quarters view of her muzzle.//
It's best to avoid passive voice and "to be" verbs anyway, but especially where you're trying to establish action to hook the reader. Minor thing here, but the first part of this sentence is fixed in Fluttershy's perspective before you've mentioned her. They're little things, but they can add up.

>Fluttershy appeared unfazed.//
Well, I take that back. Now you've jumped into Twilight's perspective. You don't want to jerk the reader around like that. Even in an omniscient narration, where you can slide more easily between viewpoints, you still don't want to do so abruptly or unnecessarily often. However, you've chosen a limited narrator, so it's even harder to pull the perspective smoothly away from a character. It's a good idea with this type of narration to stick with a single character as much as possible and only switch to another when necessary for the plot or when only another character has critical information that nobody else could possibly know or figure out. You should probably decide which character you want holding the camera and try to stick to that. To another point: you don't want to make conclusion for the reader except when they're pretty mundane. The emotions on display here are critical to the story's punch, so you want to make her look and act unfazed, not just tell me she is. What's her posture, her facial expression?

>Twilight sighed. “Well then, I guess... I guess I disagree with her.”//
Look at how often you use this structure: Short piece of narration. "Speech." Mix it up a bit.

>The sighing was becoming a bit of a habit, she realised.//
Alrigh, you've established Twilight as the perspective character for the second scene. Let's see if it stays there.

>with a gleeful expression//
Show it to me. You're making me do the work.

>That’s very— oh//
Don't leave a space after an em dash.

>spend another evening with us any time soon. At least, not unless you want me to spend//
Watch repeating the same word in a close space.

>In the first place, Applejack//
Look how often these character use direct address. Then think about how often you do in a real conversation. It's not hard to follow the thread here. I can figure out who they're talking to fine.

>she added slyly//
For all the emotion packed into what she's saying, this is all I get of what she's doing? This doesn't even create a visual. There's a section at the top of this thread that discusses "talking heads." It'll explain why you shouldn't lose sight of the nonverbal parts of a conversation.

>looking at her expectantly//
Again, show me what this looks like. Adverbs are a red flag for telling. There's a discussion of show versus tell at the top of the thread, too.

>a little sharply//
Twilight still holds the perspective, so this is her judgment, but I'm not sure why she's noting it. Is Twilight surprised Applejack's taking this tone with Dash? Or surprised to see her this mad at all?

>(The unicorn shook her head frantically.)//
This isn't really a subjective enough narration to get away with parentheticals. For that matter, how does it change anything if you simply removed the parentheses.?

>which was eventually punctured by Twilight//
This sounds rather external to her now, since it sounds unexpected, which it wouldn't be for her. She was building up to it, after all. Unnecessary passive voice here, too.

>let’s get some shut-eye//
Huh? With all the mandatory activities in "Look Before You Sleep," she's really just going to have everyone go to bed already?

>per cent//
percent

>the large, somewhat plain room//
So where is it? And give me some more visual than that. I have nothing to picture here. You get to some scenery a little later, but not really the room itself.

>Rainbow had sulked a little when Twilight had vetoed the idea of holding the party in the throne room itself//
Why would she care?

>Twilight suppressed a giggle//
And nobody else reacts at all?

>Six sleeping bags, in the same colours as the bean bags, were lined up against the long far wall.//
You're using quite a lot of "to be" verbs lately. Make things more active. It's bringing the story's momentum to a halt.

>Firefly-lamps//
You don't need to hyphenate that. "Electric lamps" wouldn't be, for instance.

>one burning at close to maximum intensity and one on a medium setting//
How do fireflies manage that? I like Fluttershy calming them, but "setting" kind of implies a different mechanism.

>her wings beating as gently as she could manage//
Watch the perspective. Only Fluttershy knows what she can manage.

>(Applejack snorted.)//
Again, you don't need the parentheses. I see that you're probably trying to obey a rule where you don't have a character act in the same paragraph in which another speaks, but that's one that's easily justified in breaking. It's fine to do if the action is a direct response to what was said, and this is. You just don't want to do it all the time or get into a decoupled pattern where paragraph after paragraph contains X's actions but Y's speech. As little as you do this, it's fine.

>She grinned hugely//
You're really using a lot of those adverbs. This is really similar to a sentence about Twilight not long ago, too.

>squee//
Don't put sound effects in narration. At the least, you don't need the italics, but this is a pretty cliched word anyway.

>Twilight felt too frazzled even to attempt to find out//
With her as the perspective character, you sometimes have to go for a different kind of telling, like phrasing that the narrator uses. The narrator can get a bit tongue-tied and wonder what's going on for Twilight, and that carries the mood as well as using more standard means of showing.

>began to become apparent//
That's pretty redundant, especially with the "eventually" earlier. "Begin" actions are rarely necessary either. Writers tend to overuse them. It's best to save them for times when that beginning is significant, like if it's an abrupt change, or the action never finishes.

>It was some time later.//
Well, that's vague and unhelpful. The fact that there's a scene break cutting back to the same characters and setting already told me that.

>The ponies were arguing about what to do first.//
So let me see them doing this.

>Find-me-an-aspirin-right-now Game//
If you're going to capitalize that, get every word.

>There was a sudden silence in the room.//
If you do it right, you rarely have to use the word "sudden." It just is.

>looked at her friends for help. Applejack looked//
Word repetition, plus this paragraph is very telly.

>Pinkie gets the casting vote//
Deciding vote, yes? Or is this a British expression?

>fully-grown//
When the first word is an -ly adverb, you don't need the hyphen.

>“Get Tirekt!”//
Um... Memes like this don't age well. You can keep it if you want, but it'll lose its humor value pretty quickly, if it hasn't already.

>Just me and you, one round each.//
Why not let everyone play? She can make it so Tirek and Twilight can only choose each other, but they shouldn't leave everyone else out.

>Twilight looked stricken.//
Let me see it.

>A pause.//
Why do writers like to do this so much? This is nothing. Without seeing what happens during it, it means nothing.

>I guess— //
No space after the em dash.

>the hoof was removed//
Pretty clunky passive voice there.

>wearing an expression of utter bliss and giggling slightly as she rocked back and forth//
She'd been your perspective character, yet this feels very external to her. For that matter, except for the very beginning of the scene, it's felt more omniscient. If you want to make the whole thing that way, fine, but it should be consistent. If you want limited, then have the narrator poke his head in here and there to keep it going.

>Tirek looked disgusted.//
How so?

>Do you not even think of what I suffered so many moons ago from Firefly and her companions?//
Probably not the best assumption that readers will know this canon.

>Tirek smirked a third time, and lowered his voice.//
That's all one clause. You don't need the comma.

>Crystals//
So, what, is he acting like Sombra to piss them off, or is Sombra there, too?

I liked the story, and despite the possibly intimidating length of the feedback, these are mostly pretty easy things to fix. What might take a bit of thought is the ending. This doesn't come to any sort of conclusion. It ends on a weak and somewhat confusing joke, but it doesn't make any larger point, resolve a conflict, or show character growth. What is it you want the reader to take away from this. Just the joke? Then write a joke book. Give the story some meaning. Who changes? Who learns something? Who achieves something?

This story was mechanically cleaner than the bulk of what I see, the characters were fun, and the plot was good until the end. I'd love to see you put that last touch on it so I can send it up for posting.
>> No. 132148
>>132143
>So it would be supposed?
Yes.

>You said "Less is often more."
I was referring not so much to what she writes, but more to how badly beaten up she is. The point gets made either way, whether she's on death's doorstep or mildly bruised, so going for the extreme bad end of things can be counterproductive.

As to going third-person...

It can work. I think maybe that's something you should have considered when you decided to make it exclusively an epistolary story, then later decided you had to back off from that. Because now it opens the door to the possibility of putting third-person scenes throughout, which I'm not going to ask you to do.

I wrote an epistolary as well, and I got the complaint in a comment that a reader wanted to see a live interaction, and all I can say is that 's a limitation of the format. There are ways of writing it so that you don't need that type of interaction, but there will always be readers who still want it.

If it's a sudden ending, that's not necessarily a bad thing. She may come to a sudden realization that her relationship with the diary has changed, after all. As long as it feels natural for the story, it's fine, but then that's the trick, isn't it?
>> No. 132151
>>132147 First of all, thank you very much. I wasn't expecting this level of feedback, and I really appreciate it.

I won't reply to much, since most of what you said seems pretty straightforward. Also, I have almost no *chan experience, so I'm bound to get things horribly wrong if I do. I'll just respond to a few things:

>Look how often these character use direct address. Then think about how often you do in a real conversation.
Oddly enough, *I* probably *would* do so if I were in that sort of a mood. Though that doesn't get me off the hook when I make *Rarity* do it, so I'm not arguing with you!

>Why would she care?
Because she thinks the throne room is a much more awesome place than some rather bare side room. Again, not an argument, since I haven't established that in the story.

>Deciding vote, yes? Or is this a British expression?
I wasn't aware that "casting vote" was a Briticism -- but it's certainly a fairly common expression in the UK. I know Google hit counts are fairly pointless, but for the bbc.co.uk domain "casting vote" beats "deciding vote" by about 2:1. Still, if "deciding vote" is more widely understood, then I don't object to changing it here.

>So, what, is he acting like Sombra to piss them off, or is Sombra there, too?
The first. The idea is that Tirek is suggesting using light-emitting crystals -- though he's doing so in a deliberately annoying and provocative way. I guess that wasn't clear.

>What might take a bit of thought is the ending.
The section that started here was the only real "punch in the gut" moment for me, I think -- and that isn't a complaint, because I think everything you said was fair. I don't personally think the joke is weak *in itself*, but I *do* agree that it's not enough for the climactic scene of this story.

So, plenty for me to chew on. Quite a few things I can fix quickly, plus one more substantial thing that I'll need to go away and think about for a while. I *do* intend to do this and resubmit in the future, though. Thanks again for the very useful feedback.
>> No. 132154
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

This is a pretty uninspiring beginning. Watching the sunset and lamenting the court business of the day has happened at the beginning of countless stories so far. It's fine to want to set this mood, but you have to go about it in a really evocative mood or from a new angle. This one isn't doing anything different.

>Among those whom had retired//
Who. It's the subject of the noun clause "who had retired."

>her eyes laden with boredom//
Don't tell me she's bored. Make her look and act bored. What would an actor do to look bored? Have her do the same things. I'll draw the conclusion of boredom myself from your description of her, if you do it right.

>It was a plot of buildings lit up and bustling with life; a little square of commotion and energy.//
Misued semicolon. There isn't an independent clause after it.

>a commons area//
Either a commons or a common area.

>those that wish to hear the tales//
"Those" refers to ponies, so they're a "who," not a "that."

>She smiled recanting the younger days//
Set off the participle with a comma. And surely you mean "recounting."

>as she considered how the times had changed since then//
And we don't get to see any of it? Why mention it at all if you're going to keep it so vague?

>Plaza//
You're inconsistent at capitalizing this. it really shouldn't be, unless it's the only one in town or so prominent that anyone hearing a reference to the word alone would know unequivocally which one.

>with glee//
Let me see this. Phrases like this are one of the red flags for telling. There's a short discussion of "show versus tell" at the top of this thread.

>The cobblestone and wood finishes brought back thoughts of the past.//
This is the second or third time already you mention her thinking about the past, but you never expand on it at all.

>Everypony seemed to be enjoying themselves.//
You haven't been bad about it in general, but there are a lot of "to be" verbs in this paragraph. It's briging the action to a halt.

>nic-nacs//
knickknacks

>He was taller than most stallions.//
Then what about him made her call him a young stallion? Nothing in the description makes him seem young.

>excitedly turn back to the plaza//
Verb form. (And telly. And inconsistent capitalization of "plaza" again.)

>turning into a drunken chant by a group of stallions at the front of the bar//
This is located so far from what it describes that it seems to refer to the door or to Luna.

>ha-ir!” they sang, a white earth pony appearing to lead them on, “Flowing//
As punctuated, those two parts of the quote form a continuous sentence, but they don't. I see this is another recurring problem.

>Luna looked around curiously, the tavern had a medieval theme//
Comma splice.

>each with its own unique coat of arms//
Does this refer to the walls or the shields?

>den of inequity//
iniquity

>I shalt//
If you're going to use archaic language, please get it right.

>Making her way over, she finally took a seat, looking about the room.//
Another danger of participles: they synchronize actions, so you have to be aware of that. Here, she does all three things at the same time, where it's more reasonable to have them in sequence, or perhaps the last two could be simultaneous.

That song may be a little risque for what we can post on the blog.

>Good e’en milady//
Needs a comma for direct address.

>through which a beady black eye shone through//
Redundant "through."

>‘a//
The elision for "of" would be "o'." But note that when you do have aleading apostrophe, smart quotes get it backward. You'll need to past in one the right way on those.

>but she knew that nopony had ever charted those waters, there was no need to with the Eastern trade routes working as they were//
Comma splice.

You're inconsistent at placing a space after an ellipsis.

>ok//
okay

>SLAM//
Just use the regular word or describe the sound. Don't Put sound effects in narration.

>her name being called by her sister//
You unnecessarily use passive voice like this at times.

>to where she suspected Luna lay//
Wait, the last paragraph was from Luna's perspective. Why are you in Celestia's now?

>her sisters sudden yelling//
Missing an apostrophe.

>jus-//
Use a proper dash for cutoffs, not a hyphen.

Alright, I'm going to stop here. Pretty much everything I've marked so far occurs multiple times. Aside from the niggling mechanical issues, the big items are:

-Overuse of telly language.
-Relative abundance of "to be" verbs.
-Incorrect usage of archaic speech.
>> No. 132157
>>132131
>"Her," not "their." I know it's become acceptable to use that as a singular, but there's no reason to obscure the stranger's gender, and as this story is trying to sound ancient, it wouldn't follow modern practices anyway.

The stranger's gender is obscured because the characters don't know it. The story is being told to a modern audience, so it's unlikely its grammar would not have changed or been updated at all. I also thought it added to the fairy tale feel to make incidental characters less detailed; Tiamat is the only character who gets proper description, which reflects her importance. The sisters don't get any because who they are is heavily implied even with a brief descriptor.

For the last section, I separated it into its own chapter and labelled it "Epilogue". I had thought the horizontal rule made the perspective shift clear enough, but apparantly not.

I'll admit the last part is the one I had most concerns about. The story seemed flat without some context, however, and the nature of fairy tales seemed the sort of thing Celestia would think a lot about. Her last comment isn't intended to be sarcastic in the least; I added an extra line to make clear she's sincere.

I could cut it completely (and I considered that), and it wouldn't really affect the story's progression much, but then the opening section could be cut for the same reasons. They help ground the story in modern Equestria, even if they don't relate much to the plot of the fairy tale.

Otherwise, I thought most of your critique was apt; thank you for taking the time to nitpick my story :)

cp
>> No. 132160
>>132157
>The stranger's gender is obscured because the characters don't know it. The story is being told to a modern audience, so it's unlikely its grammar would not have changed or been updated at all.//
This is pretty much my point, regarding the grammar. When originally recorded, the story probably would have used "his" (or "hers" as this might be a female-dominated society), so it's unlikely they'd update it with a more modern "their." And as to the characters not knowing... that's not really how this is being told. The story-in-story isn't taking a limited narration that would be restricted to what any particular character could know. It's an omniscient narrator, essentially Celestia, who does know, and as it never ends up mattering what gender this stranger is, it feels odd to deliberately obscure it.
>> No. 132161
Note that this list is not necessarily comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Canterlot library//
Is that the official name? Then capitalize both.

>symphonies and ballads and threnodies//
Wow, you sure went obscure quick. The only threnody I can think of is part of John Ireland's Concertino Pastorale. Most readers will have no idea what one is, though I'm glad you gave ample context to give them all they really need to know about it. What I'd suggest is this: 1) keep it simple and pick yet another choice that most people have at least heard of, then give the list a sequence from grand to intimate or most to least familiar; or 2) pick a few more terms of varied obscurity and string them out, again in order, to lead the reader there. I will caution you, though, make sure the character is one who'd have an advanced enough knowledge of music to use these terms. I haven't read far enough in to see yet.

>leather-bound//
As in the tanned hides of dead sentient cows?

>But in my gut, it exists, or did at one point.//
I think you could stand to ground this better in what fascinates her about it. All I get is a vague description of the drawing, and she didn't seem so drawn to it. She says she is, but I don't have the evidence of that. An example speaks far louder than a generality.

>There’s a discordant thrum of several strings not meant to be played together//
Musically speaking, there's no such thing, so this would have to be grounded in her own musical preferences, yet I have no idea what those are. Depending on the state of their music, this could be three consecutive notes together, a tri-tone, something not in a pentatonic scale, etc.

>the ripped cushions propel my body towards the front door//
This just sounds weird. How do the cushions propel her?

>Without even thinking, a thick winter jacket and a golden scarf wrap themselves around me.//
This says that the jacket and coat weren't thinking. While accurate, it's not exactly surprising or informative.

>My horn glimmers and the door to my cabin opens.//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>Slamming the door shut, I trot out into the dense snow.//
Note that participles mean simultaneous action, so the slams the door at the same time she's trotting into the snow, while it's more likely they happen in sequence.

>It would be entirely unlike her to frighten others on purpose.//
This isn't bad, but there are a lot of instances where you have "to be" verbs that you could easily remove by rephrasing. "I'd never known her to do something like this," as a simple example. You do have a fair number of boring "to be" verbs, and you could stand to use more active language to keep things moving.

>I have to look down again//
She never looked up, unless she's been doing so since before she left the house.

>I summon up the willpower to keep moving forward.//
This tripped me up a little because of what it follows. I didn't know whether she was actually doing this, or if it was continuing her comment, and she was saying this is how she normally behaves in the event of an adventure.

>Then I smack myself//
None of her commentary, gets to a mood of her feeling foolish, so this seems out of place.

>Something was waiting for me up ahead in the frozen undergrowth.//
Why go to past tense here?

>it is my civil duty//
The story reads more like she's going out there due to curiosity, not concern. It could use punching up a bit, one way or the other. Either make it so she takes this angle sooner and more consistently, if it's true, or have her sound like she's bluffing if this is just a rationalization on her part. The last line of the paragraph sells it some, but it sounds more like she's trying to overcome her trepidation than making excuses for why she should keep going.

>Fire shoots out of its belly and I leap backwards//
Needs a comma between the clauses.

>eyes widening of their own accord//
Using such formal language in conjunction with attributing the action to a body part, serves to externalize this and take away its sense of immediacy. If she's truly surprised, she doesn't have time to wax eloquent about it.

>All of the snow has melted around it, and the ground is scarred from where it walked.//
Look how calm she sounds here. Then compare it to how she sounded at the end of the previous scene. It feels inconsistent.

>But something seemed off.//
Why past tense?

>Inching a bit closer, it is obvious that this monster is, in fact, a monster.//
Dangling participle. "Inching a bit closer" should describe her, but she never appears. It describes what ever abstract concept "it" refers to.

>Not something I’d like to be close to, if at all possible.//
I gather that maybe she sounds less afraid in this scene because she's drawn to whatever this is? Let that come through. Make her narration sound like she feels this compelling tug to go forward.

>ship//
How does she decide that's what it is? There's nothing in the description to make me think that's what it is.

>My hoof stops a half-inch above where I thought the surface to be, and I realize it’s a button.//
Rephrase slightly. "It" has no antecedent here.

>behemoth//
You already used that word, and not long ago. It's unusual enough that it sticks out like a sore thumb.

>Hooking my limbs around the lip of the newly opened portal, I manage to pull myself up onto the slick steel.//
Another case where the participle tends to synchronize things that probably shouldn't be.

> Lowering myself over the edge and into the container itself, two doorways make themselves apparent.//
Another dangling participle. It says that the doorways lowered her into the container. You're using quite a few participial phrases lately, too.

>dimly lit//
Kind of an oxymoronic phrase that's seen as cliched.

>There’s nothing to be afraid of here.//
But she doesn't sound afraid. She sounds almost... monotone? Which might actually be effective here, if she's in a trance-like state, though it could stand to be a little more obvious.

>Thump.//
Eh. It's frowned upon to put sound effects in narration. Just describe the sound.

>They don’t budge from their spots, no matter how hard I pull them.//
Basically I think you need to decide how she should sound and why. Is she distant and entranced? Or is she curious and excited? As it is, the narration's kind of bland, which works for the former, except it's not obvious or consistently so.

>There are a series of clicks//
Number disagreement. "Series" is singular here.

>Racing back, I pull the ponies towards the entrance to the machine.//
Synchronization again.

>Various pieces of something hit the outside of the ship and smoke fills the interior.//
Needs a comma.

>I’m choking. I have to save these ponies.//
Again, without an atmosphere that she has dulled thoughts and a compulsion to act, these just come across as emotionless. An exclamation mark, some more emphatic phrasing... well, starting with the next sentence, there you go. This sets the mood much better.

>I run as quickly as I can.//
She doesn't mention the weight of them. Isn't she having some difficulty pulling them along?

>The inside of my eyelids are red.//
Number disagreement: inside -> are.

>The covers fly off me and I step onto the floor.//
Needs a comma.

>Stamping my hooves against the well-worn doormat, I rummage through the cabinets until I spy a square of silk mesh.//
Synchronization.

>Neither of them say anything.//
"Neither" takes the number of the items it refers to, and they're both singular, so "says."

>these creatures//
The previous night, she was convinced that were ponies. What made her change her mind?

>I need to control my stuttering.//
But she didn't stutter, nor is there any evidence that she's prone to.

>It touches my head lightly runs the appendages through my mane//
Missing comma or word.

>The first barks loudly and its shoulders shake up and down.//
Needs a comma.

>Are they talking about me? Something about them feels familiar…//
Maybe could use a slight rephrasing to avoid the repetition of "about."

>I prance in place when I hear light steps from inside pitter-pattering their way over to the entrance.//
See, her actions get across her mood, but not the manner in which they're presented. Let the tone of the narration carry it as well.

>My magic engulfs it and I pull the book towards me, scanning the cover.//
Needs a comma.

>Nothing in the way of a title; only a picture of a pony’s head, mouth wide open, the edges pulled upward in a jubilant smile.//
A semicolon really does call for a formalism of structure, but there aren't any independent clauses here.

>He bats his eyelids and I ruffle his spines.//
Needs a comma. It also seems odd that she knows him well enough to do that. It's not supported in canon or built up in the story.

>Oh, imagine if knowledge about the two creatures on my sofa was made public!//
For hypothetical statements, use subjunctive mood: if knowledge... were made public.

>I pull the winter garments off//
I'd use "my" garments. This sounds a bit off.

>A shade of brilliant blue lies above me and I barely notice it.//
Needs a comma.

>A soft breeze plays over my back and I hum to myself as I compose the first movement of the spell.//
Needs a comma. This actually has me intrigued, but I think it could stand to be a little more concrete. Is she referring to it as a movement because she just thinks of it that way, or does she actually incorporate music into her spellcasting?

>The field fades and I’m back in my rustic cabin, mere inches from the book.//
>The creatures are upside-down and they stare at me without saying anything.//
>The creature shrieks a name I can’t pronounce and I leap backwards//
Needs a comma.

>The second one sheds its helmet and I’m surprised at how similar the humans look.//
Needs a comma, and why is she still using "it" when they've already been identified as male?

>with excitement//
These prepositional phrases of emotional exposition are rarely necessary and almost always redundant with information that's already presented.

>We left it ages ago, I didn’t think there’d be a trace left of the old thing!//
Comma splice.

>That wasn’t a ship//
Then why'd she call it one? (iirc, I pointed that out in an earlier comment.)

>a few question//
Typo.

>“fingers” on their “hands”//
Now, this always bugs me when humans turn up. They really don't have any analog for this? Not Spike's claws or Tirek's hands? Discord's paw? Iron Will's hands?

>Supplies will be gathered tomorrow//
Needs a comma after this, but I don't see the advantage of passive voice here. It just sounds odd. And supplies for what?

>onboard//
on board

>I feel like a filly again, listening to my parents argue; always frightening, never fruitful.//
Misused semicolon.

>We’ll take over and then the planet will go to pieces for a second time!”//
>The desperation in his voice is palpable and it echoes across the wooden floor.//
Needs a comma.

>I turn over, feigning sleep, and watch as he turns//
Watch the repetition of "turn."

>bangs as the globe falls out of the second brother’s grasp and clatters//
I'm not sure if either of those sounds works well for a large wooden object.

>I can’t bring myself to meet his eyes so I stare at the body in front of me.//
Needs a comma.

Okay, that ending. I don't mind it at all for what happens. I do think it suffers from a lack of implication, though. I'm not sure what Lyra intends to do about any of this. Hide the body in her house? Sneak it out and bury it somewhere? And why can't she trust Twilight? She never says. I certainly think Twilight would handle it well, though you could write Lyra such that she doesn't think so.

And it needs a little more as to why Lyra says she can't trust this human and what that entails. He acted in Equestria's interest, and based on his argument, it's reasonable to think he'd continue to, though he'd also have a loyalty to his brother, and he turned against him.

So will she try to track this human down in the woods and kill him? Does she think he's dangerous enough to make that necessary? And if she truly doesn't trust any other ponies with the knowledge, she'd have to do it herself.

Basically, it isn't leading anywhere, or if the idea is to leave it open-ended, it's not attaching much emotional investment to the various options. As is kind of symptomatic of a lot of the story, Lyra's reaction is pretty bland. She's witnessed a murder (how unheard of in Equestrian society is this anyway?) and doesn't do anything, but she still seems to be thinking clearly.

The big thing I'd like to see here is more emotional consistency in the narration, or if you're setting off times she gets distant for some reason, make that come through as well. Usually, something like getting distracted or zoning out would connote getting mesmerized like that, but I don't get the feel that's what you were going for. So either give me more emotional cues, particularly in how the narration is worded and presented, or make those instances of disaffection more blatant instead of resorting to fact-listing. Then I'd like the ending to lead to something. What does this say about Lyra's character? Or what conflict has been set up and stands to be resolved? In a nutshell, what message do you want the reader to take away from the story?

Nicely done, though. Most of these things are minor fixes, and I don't think the more abstract issues will be tough to deal with, either.
>> No. 132165
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

A few writing tics stand out. You lean on "as" clauses a lot, to the point they become repetitive. Every sentence in your second paragraph has one. There are seven in the first screenful, plus another "as" used for a comparative phrase. So I did a Ctrl-f for " as " and found 40. That's about one every 190 words, or 2-3 per page. That's actually not too bad, but when I look at where the instances occur, there's a cluster of them right here at the beginning and another about 30% of the way through. At the beginning, I'm also seeing a lot of "to be" verbs. It's impractical to excise them from a story altogether, but you should choose active verbs where possible, especially here, where you're trying to hook the reader. These verbs are not very engaging—it's more interesting to read about what happens, not what is—so it only helps to limit them here. Likewise, I've searched the story for the easier forms to find, and I get 227, which is nearly one every other sentence. There are 121 instances of "was" alone. That's how often something doesn't happen.

As long as I'm doing searches, here are other words that authors often overuse:
just: 52, getting up there, but not awful
turn: 13, good
walk/trot: 4, good
look: 42, fairly high, and they get clustered in places

Next, I notice that you're using a limited narrator. Kind of a shallow one, but limited nonetheless. So on the one hand, it's odd to see the occasional musing italicized as a direct thought, when we already have access to her thoughts through the narrator. There are times this can work, namely when it's important the reader know the though occurred verbatim or you want to phrase it as a first-person thought, but neither really applies here. On the other hand, we occasionally get statements like this:
>She sighed again and wished it was tea time.//
It's not necessary for a limited narrator to tell us that a character thought or wished or wanted something, because the narration can do that and communicate it with more emotion. Take this for example: "Could tea time come any slower?" That communicates the same thing, but it forges a closer link with the reader, since it brings him into her viewpoint instead of stating it as a dry fact, and it indirectly makes it her wish instead of bluntly identifying it as one.

Likewise, it feels odd when you use "her father," since that creates a sense of being external to her, particularly when she just uses "Father" most of the time.

>smaller...scared, even.. //
You'll normally leave a space after an ellipsis, and I'm not sure whether that second one has one too many or one too few periods.

>Ponies paused in their morning routine//
"Routine" would be plural here, unless it's always the same ponies every day in exactly the same way, so that there is an overarching routine involving every individual.

>Ponyville was her home now and she had a reputation to build.//
I've noticed several instances of this by now, where you need a comma to set off a dependent clause.

>Everypony would be watching. Everypony.//
That second "everypony" feels like it could use emphasis.

>deep breath that traveled from deep//
Watch the close repetition of all but the most mundane of words.

>The magenta filly behind them looked a little impressed.//
I haven't caught you being telly, so one fleeting instance isn't going to kill you, but this is an important moment for her, and I think showing me the filly's reaction instead of just telling me she's impressed would be more engaging.

>upperclassmare’s//
As used, you need that to be plural.

>3.9//
We prefer number that short spelled out: three-point-nine.

>said wrap it up//
If you're going to present it as a quote, then punctuate/capitalize it like one. Otherwise, add a "to" in there and get rid of the italics.

>It didn’t matter now, she’d run out of time.//
Comma splice.

>four seats to choose from//
She did that math awfully fast, and if she figures out someone's not there, wouldn't she ask to make sure not to take that student's seat?

>Welcome to our clath Thilver Thpoon!//
Needs a comma for direct address.

>The desk next to it was empty.//
This gets to the point I just made a bit ago. It sounds like she knows that one of the empty seats is off limits and which one, but how does she know?

>worse came to worse//
Worst came to worst

>She always seemed to have the same keen tone of voice//
Kind of a premature conclusion, given that she's only heard Cheerilee speak a couple times so far.

>Which aren’t always hot, they can be cold, too.//
Comma splice.

>The tatty pegasus was glaring at her. Another pony frowned.//
Whenever you lapse into one of these descriptions of her classmates' actions around her, the sentence structures get really repetitive. Having it be that way once is fine, but when it keeps happening, it gets in a rut. They're all short, simple sentences starting with the subject.

>The blue one jumped a bed of posies, swerving to miss the fillies playing hopscotch.//
This is a common issue with participial phrases. They imply simultaneous action, so you have him swerving at the same time he's jumping. While possible, if he has any command of his magic yet, it's unlikely.

>zig-zagged, double-backed//
zigzagged, doubled back

>The grass was still wet from last night’s rainstorm.//
It feels like a plot convenience that this is just now mentioned. Bring it up much earlier if you can, maybe even in the previous scene. Or maybe show it raining as she's first arriving in town. Then this is a reminder and not a just-in-time fact.

>A jolt of revulsion rippled through her pristine coat.//
Be more descriptive than telly here. What does she actually do? Shudder, wince? What physical symptoms does she feel from it?

>“tsk”.//
Period goes inside the quotes.

>Guffaws//
I can't tell whether you mean he's laughing or that's his name.

>She flicked her tail, irritated.//
That goes by so quickly as to have little impact. Give me some more detail, and preferably more internal than this somewhat omniscient statement.

>her classmate’s shrieking laughter//
Just one, or did you mean that to be plural?

>The filly did not think about Manehattan and did not frown.//
Given the limited narrator, you're essentially saying she's thinking about herself as "the filly," which is weird.

>He’s an appraiser for Canterlot Museum of Art and Antiquities.//
Missing a "the."

>what?//
Normally, an exclamation mark or question mark on an italicized word is also italicized.

>once…it’s//
It looks to me like you leave a space after an ellipsis only if it ends the sentence. It's more standard to leave a space after one in all cases except leading ellipses, but it's not something worth quibbling over if you attach some differentiation to the practice.

>It’s just…tag.//
Well, now it just looks like you're being inconsistent.

>Silver’s lost expression//
Narrative voicing. It's odd for Silver to make this judgment about herself. It sounds more like Sweetie's opinion.

>She flipped her braid over her shoulder//
How many does she have? You referred to multiple ones earlier. In fact, do a Ctrl-F for "braid" This is the third instance of it. In the prior one, she does almost the same word-for-word thing.

>“game”.//
Period inside the quotes.

>boys versus girls//
You're using that as a descriptor, so hyphenate it.

>Don’t bother with the porcelain cup, it’s not dirty.//
Comma splice.

>The filly looked up at him.//
That reference again. You shouldn't be mentioning her in such an external way when you have a limited narrator in her perspective.

>I don’t think they like me, Tacks.//
I catch authors doing this from time to time. She calls him by name several times in this conversation. It can be a sign of emphasis, but I don't see it here. Think about how often you actually do so in a real conversation. You're also missing a line break for the new paragraph after this.

>and declined to mention that two of those three fillies lived in the same building and their parents had grasped for the Silvers’ good favor for years//
Wait, why are you hopping over to his perspective for the grand total of one paragraph? If it's really necessary to jump to him (and it probably isn't), it's worth staying there a while.

>6:45//
Minor thing, but we usually prefer that to be written out.

>Her ear pricked at approaching hoofsteps and turned.//
This makes it sound like only her ear turned, but apparently her whole body does, since she goes on to describe what was previously behind her.

>Are you feeling better today?//
Wait, did I miss something? I don't recall Silver feeling sick or missing school. Maybe her leaving early on Friday implied that she did or at least faked it? If so, that could be made clearer.

>she was ready to fight you for it.//
I'd get rid of the "you," since the sentence makes sense without it, and addressing the reader opens a can of worms.

>‘New money runs, old money walks’,//
Comma goes inside the quotes.

>My daddy owns Barnyard Bargains.//
Only because I recognize this from canon do I know who's speaking here. The pronouns are getting ambiguous, and at first, I thought Diamond was the one saying her mother taught voice lessons.

Okay, I like what I see here. The biggest issues were the ones I raised right up front, with the repetitive elements and narrative voicing, and while they're not hard to fix, they can be a little time-consuming.

I would make one more request, though: The spot for the incomplete story synopsis in the submission form is intended for you to give a quick summary of where the rest of the story goes. We don't want to get caught with any unpleasant surprises, we like to know that the author has a plan, and at times, and we can try and shoot down problems before they happen when some red flags pop up with it. So I'd still want to see one of those.

This story shows a lot of promise, though, and I'd like to see it come back fixed up so I can post it.
>> No. 132170
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Ebony hooves echoed off the marble floor as a young white Pegasus fled along yet another corridor, moonlight streaming through the stained glass windows. Her pursuers kept pace, their constant orders for her to halt still within earshot.//
Let's start with the first paragraph, appropriately. Both sentences have an absolute phrase on the end, which immediately creates a repetitive structure. Also note that the "moonlight streaming" gives a still and peaceful scene that feels out of place with the action going on around it. Also notice how you repeat "halt" very soon after in the next paragraph.

>heir horns shined brightly//
"Shined" is the transitive past tense, like what you do to shoes or brass. You want "shone."

>The mare stiffened, then simply smirked. “Now, that won’t do at all, I’m afraid. You see—”
>
>Her form ignited with a burst of emerald flame, shattering the shield.

>
>“—I already have a date with royalty.”//

You don't need to put those in separate paragraphs. Here's how to put a narrative aside in a quote (note the pattern of capitalization and punctuation):
The mare stiffened, then simply smirked. “Now, that won’t do at all, I’m afraid. You see—” her form ignited with a burst of emerald flame, shattering the shield “—I already have a date with royalty.”

>The stallion hung his head, his ears flat against his head.//
Watch the repetition.

>The stallion saluted and departed, leaving Celestia alone in the room. She sighed, dropping her royal facade as she wandered from her throne to a window. The moon caught her attention, shining gently as ever like nothing of concern had even happened.//
You have a participial phrase in every sentence here. That structural repetition gets into a rut. There are attendant problems with participle use that you'll probably run into just by using so many. It's probably worth scanning through your story for them to make sure you're not using a whole lot overall or locally in clumps like this.

One issue is that they can be misplaced modifiers. Take your last one here. Participles like to modify the nearest prior object, so "shining gently" would tend to modify "attention." Now, we can apply a little logic and figure out what you meant, but if there'd been another potentially shiny object there in the sentence, it could be ambiguous or misleading.

I'm not going to point out any more participles unless they are one of the other problematic types I alluded to. Other than that, just suffice it to say you could stand to reduce the number of them overall and even out their distribution. While they're nice for flavor, authors who are just starting to gain some experience often rely on them too much, to the point that they get overloaded with them.

Likewise, if you add in the last sentence of this paragraph, there are two "as" clauses, which are similarly overused by many authors.

>Even after fleeing Canterlot, the Changeling’s wings buzzed like her life depended on it.//
Speak of the devil. Here's another problem participles can cause if you aren't careful. It's a special case of a misplaced modifier calling a dangling participle. "Even after fleeing Canterlot" is supposed to describe Chrysalis, but she doesn't appear in the clause. It describes her wings, and while they've technically fled Canterlot as well, it's just weird to say it that way, and I'm sure it's not what you intended anyway.

>Sync stared back at him, affronted//
Okay, you've been good about show versus tell so far, so I've let a few inconsequential ones go, but this is a pretty big emotional point of the story, so I'd rather have you make her look and act affronted than just tell me she is.

>She shuddered as she recalled the withered old stallion that kept the library in order.//
You've kept to Sync's perspective since the scene began. Why skip over to her now? Is it really necessary? Just having her shudder still gets the mood across, and since that's something Sync can see, the perspective would still rest with him. There can be good reasons to shift perspective, but it has to be carefully considered.

>At first elated//
You were doing so well before, but another blatant telly spot where it really doesn't work.

>remaining energy I have left//
Redundant.

>making Sync even more indignant towards her two friends//
Stahp. And while you're stahping, have a look at the section on "show versus tell" at the top of this thread. It gives some more detail about what warning signs to look for.

>changelings//
You'd been capitalizing that. Be consistent.

>the chariot he was in//
That's a clunky phrasing.

>hiding?//
You'll normally italicize a question mark or exclamation mark that's on an italicized word.

>‘ling//
Smart quotes always get leading apostrophes backward. You can type two and erase the first, or you can paste one in from somewhere else.

>Spurred on by the gesture, Chrysalis let out a shout as the light consumed everything...//
This is the fourth sentence with an "as" clause in just the last two paragraphs (not counting the short thought one).

>his horn shined brightly//
"Shone" again, but notice that it's the exact phrasing you used from the last time I pointed this out.

>the stones he stood next to//
Another awkward phrasing. How is this any better than "the stones next to him"?

>They split into a two-by-two formation, cautiously entering the tunnel.//
And there's the trifecta of participles. They imply simultaneous action, so you have them entering the tunnel at the same time they split into formations, while it's more reasonable for them to do those actions one after the other.

>changeling//
You should just Ctrl-f for these and make sure you use consistent capitalization.

>rubbed the bridge of his nose//
I get that authors want to use human mannerisms, but horses don't even have such a thing, and if pones did, it'd be way down on their muzzles, not between their eyes. If the latter's what you want, then just say that.

>An empty wasteland of nothing that seemed to stretch forever and it was all her fault.//
Needs a comma between the clauses, and based on the way you're formatting this, it needs a line break as well.

>just, save them//
Commas aren't for dramatic pauses. There's no grammatical reason to have one there.

>“... ake… up...”//
Don't leave a space after a leading ellipsis. And note that some of your ellipses are a single character while others are three separate dots. Just do a search and replace of one for the other so they're all the same.

>Chrysalis’//
I realize that it's become acceptable to use this form now, while the traditional one would be "Chrysalis’s." But you used this version earlier in the story, so be consistent.

>cosy cave//
Extraneous space.

>He just hoped his shell would remain in one piece.//
Why are you hopping over to his perspective?

>She withdrew at the sight of her quivering charge, and sighed.//
That's all one clause. No need for the comma.

>Though it was just a pile of moss, it was strangely comfortable.//
Here, you're in Chrysalis's perspective, and...
>He quickly glanced around to see if anyling was nearby before leaning closer.//
here, you're in Scribe's. Then back to Chrysalis:
>Chrysalis sighed as she closed her eyes; her eyelids felt so very heavy.//
It's not necessary to be hopping around like this.

> the youngling tumbled through the air, landing on the soft grass and rolling, finally stopping at the biped’s feet as dislodged leaves floated down around her.//
Another case of participles synchronizing actions that shouldn't be.

>her eyes shining and her legs covering her head//
How does her know it's a female? Even Sync didn't seem to know, as she used "their" instead of "her" earlier.

>Scratching his head, Adrien reached again for his belt.//
More synchronization problems.

>she let out an audible sigh of relief//
Since you're using a limited narrator, there's no need to be so blunt about this.

>they hurried along the passage, to discover the rest of the hive either cringing and backing away, or running around yelping//
Neither of those commas is needed.

>M-m-majesssty//
Since the word has to be capitalized anyway, do so in every instance of the first letter.

>T-that’s//
Consider what sound would actually be repeated. Certainly not just the "t."

>changeish//
A language would be capitalized.

>looking perplexed//
Show me what that looks like.

I like what I see here. Really, there's not that much to fix up, so I don't think it should be hard. I suspect that has as much to do with your editor as much as anything else. Whatever it takes, if you can keep that quality up for the rest of the story, I think it could have a home on the blog. When you're ready to resubmit, please choose the "back from Mars" option.

Last edited at Fri, Apr 10th, 2015 20:02

>> No. 132182
Note that this list is not comprehensive. I picked out a few examples of each kind of error or problem I found. Of course, not everything is a black-and-white issue; this is not a list of things you have to fix, but take each under advisement.

>Looking back on it I guess that was the point, ponies that naturally embodied the Elements without trying; all those years studying and training and I never even could have embodied an element.//
Comma after "looking back on it" to set off the participial phrase. And your first comma would work better as a colon or dash, I think.

>I knew, I knew,
Keep in mind that she's writing a journal here. How do you handwrite italics? When emphasizing something in handwriting, you'd naturally make it darker (use bold font) or underline it.

>Celestial//
Typo.

>I'm getting off topic now.//
Missing a line break her.

>Once I did//
>when they appeared//
>It makes me want to smile//
>Before I even went back to Equestria to steal the crown//
Comma after this.

>let’s add more item//
Typo.

>Those memories I have, they make those choice tantalizing//
You originally had "Those memories I have make those choice tantalizing," which I marked as having a typo, but you added "then." The typo was "those choice." You're mixing singular and plural.

While the prologue does rehash a lot of the movie plot, it also gets at Sunset's emotional motivation for a lot of what's going to happen, so if a reader skips the prologue, he's missing out on that, and what you did with that was pretty strong. Normally, I hate repetition, but you might consider touching on it again a little in chapter 1 just to bring those readers up to speed.

>after the thugs had run rampant//
Besides being an awfully formal phrasing, I'm surprised she cals them "thugs" here, since it's much later in the story before she feels like she didn't deserve this.

>, (a jog for her)//
Move that comma after the parenthetical element.

>shyed//
shied

>out of fear//
Cut this. It's tell and already apparent.

>runners high//
Missing apostrophe.

>and she was right next to me//
Extraneous space in there.

>I wasn’t sure if that was a smart idea//
>I’m thinking about asking for a tour of her farm sometime//
>If I did go back//
>At first I was stunned that someone actually cared enough to help//
>It took a moment//
>but those thoughts passed//
>I was pretty out of it//
Comma after this.

>Then she’d turn to Applejack and said//
I pointed this out last time. The verb forms need to be the same. Make it "turned."

>on it’s own//
I pointed this out last time, too. Its/it's confusion.

>we were suppose to//
And I pointed this one out last time, too. "supposed"

>half heartedly//
halfheartedly

>Dairy//
Do a search in all chapters for this spelling to make sure you've gotten them all.

>confused though//
thought

>I think I keep trying//
kept

>- she’s the element of loyalty after all -//
Use proper dashes here, not hyphens. Either em dashes with no surrounding spaces (Alt+0151) or en dashes surrounded by spaces (Alt+0150).

>then maybe they will feel better as well//
You already gave extra emphasis to "maybe" earlier in the sentence. I'd cut this one.

>It caught me off guard//
>I hadn’t been out to Applejack’s before//
Comma after this.

>it’s tail//
I pointed this out last time. Its/it's confusion. As you have it, it would expand out to "it is tail." You do the same thing again later in the paragraph.

>Better safe then sorry.//
And I pointed this out too. You confused "then" for "than."

>fifteen minute//
Needs a hyphen.

>friends and family of the Apple Family//
Another one I marked last time. Repetitive use of "family." Just say "friends and family of the Apples."

>farm fresh//
And another one I listed before. Needs a hyphen.

We had talked a bit about what you planned for the last chapter. I think that might be something pretty tricky to pull off, and since there's only one more to go anyway, I'd also like to have a go at making an editing sweep on it like I've done for the rest. So for bookkeeping purposes, I'll call this a Mars (so mark it as such when you resubmit), but really, it's closer to being in a holding pattern until you've finished the last chapter. Any idea when that might be done?
>> No. 132183
>>132182
Last chapter here

https://www.fimfiction.net/chapter/737123
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>> No. 132184
>>132182
I finished your suggested corrections, including the ones I missed before, and I took you up on refreshing Sunset's motivations at the beginning of chapter one. It was a good idea and it really set up her being bullied and not fighting back.


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