I want Red back, not solo Charizard.

We still have a few months until the game is out. Hoping for unlockable Palutena and Pac-Man

Sakurai seemed to be dropping massive hints about Palutena, what with her being missing in Pit's final smash and the "Pseudo-Palutena" parasprite. Pac-Man is just a fan request since Namco is involved. The closest thing to a hint is that Galaga appears to be an assist trophy which confirms that Namco related IPs can make cameos in the game.

What sings are pointing to Pac-Man?

Also, Little Mac alone makes this a great batch of newcommers.

They had my money the moment Megaman was confirmed.

In fact, if they removed every other character save for Megaman, I'd still buy it.

And bitch shut up, Greninja is awesome.

Which were the "le trole" characters? Wii Fit trainer? (I believe she/he is a replacement for ROB) Villager? (AC rep has been requested forever) Megaman? (Nintendo/Sakurai wanted him)

Japan raised a slam jam over Little Mac, proves you can't satisfy everypony.

My main problem is we get the 3DS version first and that has so many shitty stages.

What's wrong with Lip's Stick? You ever play Panel De Pon? That game rocks.

Lip for Smash!

>>131248
Delphox is better

>best Gen 6 Pokemon confirmed
>meh
>oh no a character who's fucking ginormous compared to everypony else won't be playable
>item from the better version of Tetris Attack is still a thing in Smash

I don't see anything wrong here.

>Nintendo
>varied

aside from Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus: Uprising, & Metroid Prime HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE I'm still buying this BTW.

Needs more 3rd party characters though. As great as Mega Man's inclusion is, he and Sonic won't entirely cut it for me (and Pac-Man sure as hell won't if he's confirmed).

>>131259
>Needs more 3rd party characters though.
At most you might get a Xenoblade character.

What was the last original character Nintendo came up with

>>131265
Monita?

Zero Suit Samus with Rocket Boots.

ROCKET BOOTS

>>131242
>Pac-man
Do you mean Pikmin or something, cause I never saw pac-man in it.

All of the new characters have been amazing, but with just about every game, series, etc. People love to complain when everything is not to their liking.
I mean hell, you have custom moves, new game types, OP characters that finally got a huge nerf. I say they have done a good job. Besdies, isn't sonic and megaman part of Nintendo's history? Let's see, a crap load of games about sonic have been on with Nintendo, and seeing as they making the winter Olympic games with sonic and mairo, sonic is pretty much nintendo's best friend. And megaman, it wasn't till megaman 8 that he was put on something besides the famicom/NES
Yeah, if you ask me, those 2 sound like a huge part of nintendo's history, and sakurai wanted them in.

And knowing them, and from what is up right now, we only have 30 players. They still haven't said anything about Ness, Jigglypuff, Captain falcon, and those were all in the very first game.

I mean, if you want to be an idiot and miss out on on of the funnest party game/fighters. Go for it. I'm gonna laugh my ass off when I wreck with these new brilliant characters.

>>131279
I honestly don't think Captain Falcon will make it back. He's a really low tier character that's mostly there for laughs.

I mean if he stays in it'll be cool, but I'm not holding my breath.

>>131280
>He's a really low tier character that's mostly there for laughs.
Based off what stats?

He's an amazing melee (Fighting style, not game) character who is crazy fast. There is no way they are kicking Cpt. F out of the game. He's been there since day one, and is a great Nintendo character.

Keep your money, if you care more about how much a game panders to your shitty tastes in cameos than you do about how well designed and fun the game is, spend it on a knife and cut your internet.

>>131280
He's a legacy, though. Him and Jigglypuff are shoe-ins for that exact reason. Sakurai's just going to hold off on revealing them until near or even after the release just to mess with us.

>>131283
>Sakurai's just going to hold off on revealing them until near or even after the release just to mess with us.
This.

"See samus final smash? She's not zero anymore. We took her out of the game. Lol, just kidding."

>>131279
>OP characters that finally got a huge nerf

>>131281
>Based off what stats?

Sorry, had to point this out.

>>131280
>He's a really low tier character that's mostly there for laughs.
He was bad in one game, that one game being the shittiest one anyway.
>Implying the devs care about high level play

Falcon and Ness will be back, too popular.
But Jiggs... Does she still make her retarded cameos in the newer episodes of the anime? I think that would be the main factor if she returns.
I mained JP but I could totally see her not coming back, we already have so many Pokemon in the game already.

Ganon may come back but only if he has a tweaked moveset.
Falco might comeback as-is.
Wolf and Game&Watch is a toss up.
Metaknight maybe not. Got so much hate for being good, Nintendo logic; instead of tweaking him to make him more balanced they'll just remove him all together.
Ice Climbers maybe not. 3DS limitations, just guessing.

ROB, Lucas and Ike nope.
Wario yup.

I'm perhaps the only one who would like a modern version of Captain N to join SSB4.

>>131291
Nah, I like when people agree with me.

And yeah, Cpt. F is fucking amazing in brawl and melee. I guess the person is thinking "LOL falcon punch, let's spam it, he's a joke character." If you know how to play him, he's scary.


Ice climbers might actually make it in, seeing as enimes from their games are still in, some goes for Cpt F as goroh is still an assit trophy.

>>131319
Apparently Falcon is actually pretty low tier in brawl
>Captain Falcon is currently ranked 34th on the tier list as a result of the nerf of his attack, speed and KO-ing power from Melee, low shieldstun, poor hitboxes for his aerials (making safe approaches nearly impossible, especially when considering his lack of projectiles), the impact of the new Brawl physics (which arguably hit Captain Falcon the hardest; less hitstun and the loss of L-canceling result in drastically fewer, weaker combos, and a less effective dashdance and inability to moonwalk give him even fewer options)

But nobody cares about the Brawl metagame, anyway. Melee and Project M are where it's at.

>>131242
Tell me about it.
I was extremely disappointed when Shrek wasn't confirmed for smash.
0/10
will not play.

Wait, if OP wants Nintendo to represent their "varied" (hehehe) history, why is he disappointed that Nintendo didn't add a character from a series that's been represented during the entirety of SSB's existence?

>>131325
>those feels

>>131328
>"varied" (hehehe)
Are you saying Nintendo doesn't have an extremely wide variety of games and franchises?

>>131329
I'm not hating on Nintendo, but when the last game they made that actually wasn't a complete rehash gameplay-wise (KI:U, and even that had a lot of sections reminiscent of Star Fox) was released more than a decade after Metroid Prime (and Eternal Darkness doesn't count. They just published that.), I think that it's silly to call them varied.

I love Nintendo, but the majority of their franchises just don't change too much at all, even if new installments have one or two additions. And I'm not saying that they should, but you need to actually look at their releases in the '00s and onward if you think that they've had a lot of variety recently.

>>131331
>dillon's rolling western
>pushmo/crashmo
>Chibi-robo
>EBA
>Wii Fit
>Wonderful 101
http://kyoto-report.wikidot.com/forum/t-469495


There's a lot more to Nintendo than Mario and Pokemon. But no one buys anything besides Mario and Pokemon. Pokemon, Animal Crossing and New Super Mario Bros are pretty much the only actual rehashes Nintendo has. And even then, calling them a rehash is iffy.

>>131332
...OK, you got me there (I haven't even heard of those first two and forgot that Chibi-Robo existed), although Wonderful 101 was developed by Platinum Games. Nintendo just published it.

>>131333
lol, way to stand your ground.
That list just proves your point more.
EBA, Dillion and W101 were all just published by Nintendo.

Pushmo is great, but it's just a puzzle platformer so basically Mario with puzzles.

Wii Fit isn't exactly a game I would herald for anything unless you wanted to discuss what ruined Nintendo.

Then we have Chibi-Robo, a game from the Metroid Prime gen that got a Japan exclusive sequel, rehashed Wii version and then finally a worldwide sequel which is just a camera tech demo.
I know the character has been requested for Smash and I don't doubt it would be a awesome character but is it really the best representative of a Nintendo franchise?

>>131334
>WiiFit
>ruined Nintendo
>best selling video game ever

>>131322
>But nobody cares about the Brawl metagame
Let's just keep picking Pit, meta knight, and fox. We'll be unstoppable at any brawl game.
But yeah, the meta sucks ass.

I could easily kill people with Cpt. Falcon. Just knowing how to use your character
>>131335
I think his reasoning in a nutshell to why it's a ruined nintendo is cause
"What? This is some fucking soccer mom game, fucking causal gamers. Now the Wii is a family console, for stay at home moms. God everything is ruined"

>>131336
>Let's just keep picking Pit
He's about as mid tier as you can get.

No, both the Wii and Wii Fit ruined Nintendo because the money was just flooding in and they thought they could just sit on their hands and do nothing yet still rack in the green while riding the roller coaster.
Somepony should have told them before they released their new consoles, the ride eventually stops.

Now if you're angry about the lack of third party support or games, just remember their new catchphrase:
>Please understand.

>>131337
>He's about as mid tier as you can get.
Really? Guess we must have had two different experiences while playing.

So...it ruined them Nintendo, cause it gave them a lot of money.
I see your logic behind why you think it ruin Nintendo, but god is it some faulty logic. If that's the case, Wii didn't ruin Nintendo. Nintendo ruined Nintendo.

>>131334
>lol, way to stand your ground
tbf I was tired and didn't feel like researching, even though I was doubting EBA's inclusion. :/

>>131336
>the meta sucks ass
Agreed. I don't care if Kirby or Sonic aren't OP as fuck, as I'll play as them anyway just because they're the two characters that I like playing as.

>>131339
Lucas was my main. I guess he was high?
I just know I was beat with him.

>>131340
Best*

>>131338
>Really? Guess we must have had two different experiences while playing.
Well I played with pros, so go figure. Third best Wolf player in NA (dude was a dick), Bum who was the best DK player in melee (I honestly can't tell you if he's more awesome when he's drunk or sober), PC Chris and a bunch of lesser known skilled people.

>>131342
>implying playing with pros means anything.
I just know some of the most spammed characters to win games were wolf, metaknight, and pit.
And god do those 3 need a huge nerf.

Possibly real character select screen leaked. Not all the characters in the game are in this image.
Palutena and Mii's are supposed to get in the game according to a guy that predicted Megaman, Villager and Wii Fit Trainer were going to be in.


>>131366
>implying playing with pros means anything.
>Implying it doesn't
I'm not implying anything when I say I don't have a positive win-ratio against most the people I play when I go into the city, some of who play this game for money in-place of an actual job.
Nor am I implying any thing when I say I would still probably rock your shit up and down the block like you got hit by a truck.

>I just know some of the most spammed characters to win games were wolf, metaknight, and pit.
By what metric did you determine this?

>And god do those 3 need a huge nerf.
Again, Pit isn't that great. He's slow, predictable, has a shitty recovery and only two good kill moves.
Wolf is about on par with Fox, just requires a different playstyle. Both Fox and Wolf being mid, a little above Pit. Wolf according to the supposed leak image isn't coming back anyway.

>>131367
I would be alright with that roster.

>>131368
I forgot, others not in the image are Shulk from Xenoblade...
And these guys.

>>131367
No, it really doesn't mean anything. Unless you were in some of these tournaments and have some trophies to show how badass you are.
I could had played street fighter with dango, doesn't really mean anything.

We are talking tiers in brawl. This kinda falls back to the whole "no items, fox only, final destination thing"
Remember how when people wanted to win, they just picked kirby or pikachu, and spammed b down.

Same concept as in those 3. Pit and meta knight were nothing but spam, but with them, you could lock somepony in a combo for days. I'm looking at that stupid metaknight move. Wolf is not as much spam as the others, but still he needs a huge nerf. You could just pick him up, just land a few smash attacks, and win.

Like, let me compare this to another fighting game with somepony cheap as hell. Peacock from skullgirls. Yeah, she's annoying, and spammy. But you can beat her if you time your moves just right. Though, that's not gonna stop the other person from just using 3 moves and finally beating you.

And I take it you never played against a good pit player. One of my friends loves the Kid icuras series, and mained him.
He has a great recovery (Which is why they changed it in ssb4. You say he doesn't need a nerf, but yet the nerfed him a lot from ssbb) You could always get back in if you flew off. His dash, side a, and side b and up a can fuck you up. And that's all he needs to kill you. Trust me, I know how pit plays. He can be fucking scary.

Though the whole point of this, is people who try to tourney, and pick characters like pit, fox, meta knight, etc.
I could win against any of them with the lowest of the tier. Point is, tiers are stupid, and the meta is pointless. People will pick the ops characters and win. I.E. fighting game flow charts Novice vs Pro.

>>131371
I think you're just mad that game balance is hard, and Smash Bros is not a balanced game. The fact is, if a Ganondorf player and a Marth player are both evenly matched in skill (and actual skill is more than just spamming the same attacks), the Marth player is going to win a majority of the time. Ganon is just too heavilty gimped in Brawl.

>>131372
>I think you're just mad that game balance is hard, and Smash Bros is not a balanced game
>implying.
I'm not even mad. I'm just saying there are op characters, and then we have tounry tards who only pick those characters cause they know they win games. Tiers are literally nothing.
I can use the weakest character and still wipe the floor with him or her.

Though there are some stats to who is op, and who is shit. Like you said, ganon is gimped. Same with meta knight and how he's op. There's a reason why people ban him.

Point is, which we have deteriorate from so long ago. Cpt falcon is not a joke character, and can easily kick ass. You just got to learn the combos.

  >>131371
Sagemoon, the best Pit player there is only ever won this one tournament and it was heavily because of his stage picks. He wasn't even fighting a good DDD player; Emo is like tier 2/3 player.

>"no items, fox only, final destination thing"
That's totally Final Dess they're playing on.
https://archive.thedarkcave.org/foolfuuka/boards/c/image/1386/34/1386345231889.gif

>You could just pick him up, just land a few smash attacks, and win.
Little more complicated than that but I know Wolf players are happy with how you're putting them on a pedestal.

>skullgirls
NOOOOOOOOOOOOPE!
You can't bring up that game when trying to make a point.
Two different versions of the game exist and within those two versions you can have different playstyles.

>And I take it you never played against a good pit player. One of my friends loves the Kid icuras series, and mained him.
i own all d ahalo movays, bwooks an duh gwamez, i'm duh bwest halo playa in dwuh hole wold
no ones can beet me when i getz da lazor sword and neddler

>He has a great recovery (Which is why they changed it in ssb4.
Go watch the end of the fourth round in that series of matches, tell me how it's so good of a recovery.

>You say he doesn't need a nerf, but yet the nerfed him a lot from ssbb
>Talking about game mechanics of a game you haven't played yet
Good example of somepony not knowing what they're talking about? Check.

>You could always get back in if you flew off.
Unless you get hit.

>side b
>And that's all he needs to kill you.
1. Non-kill move.
2. Easy to dodge.
3. Leaves you open.

>Trust me, I know how pit plays.
I'm not Nick Fury but I still don't trust you. You have no idea how to play Pit at a high competitive level.
Competitive level playing being a little more complex than simply playing with no items, selecting FD and using three moves.

>Though the whole point of this, is people who try to tourney, and pick characters like pit, fox, meta knight, etc.
People don't pick Pit or Fox and expect to win a tourney, but go on.

>I could win against any of them with the lowest of the tier.
Which is why you're a top level professional player who doesn't need to work because you get so much paper from playin dem gamez.

>and the meta is pointless
You were the first one to bring up meta. More specifically, saying how they changed it when you haven't even played the game yet. A MOVE LOOKS WEAKER, TOTALLY A NERF!

>>131374
Again, who cares a shit about pro, we are talking about tiers.
I could become pro with shitty characters if I want. Pro means nothing and tiers mean nothing. Captain falcon isn't gonna get removed cause he is a "joke character" or cause he is low tier and whatever. I seen people love Cpt. falcon, and kick ass with him. If Nintendo removed a character cause pros don't use them or the tiers suck, I would cri.

Why can't I bring up skullgirls, or any other fight game? Hell, I could bring up an idea of something else completely, as long as the same idea is in play.

Ok, you can talk like a 8 year old playing halo. Cool.
My point still stand that you probably never played a good pit player. I have, and have had my ass handed by him and have also destroyed him

God...I can't think of a way to describe how stubborn you are with saying pit isn't op. When he came out, everypony made a point of how he has the best recovery. That is not a opinion, that is a fact. As long as he doesn't get smashed off the screen, he can always get back. Why else would Nintendo change it?

And if you get hit...guess what http://www.smashbros.com/wii/en_us/howto/basic/basic03.html
Now learn this before I have to spam it 50 times.

>1. Non-kill move.
>2. Easy to dodge.
>3. Leaves you open.
And I'll take "What are combos" for 600
You don't just spam it to win. If we were talking about meta knight, then yes. Spam b, get bitches.
All you need to know is learn when to side b, then go into another attack.

Again, I went into tournaments. I didn't play with pros like you say. But I know how high level pits play, and low levels.

I love how you are attacking me, and not about the game. Nice defense start.
I know this, cause I play the "Low tier" characters. I have many mains I used, like 7 or 8.

Yeah, I brought up the meta to say it's pointless and means fucking nothing. OK, so a few guys in a basement or something read up all the stats for captain falcon, and found up that all his moves will put him rank X on this scale. Who the fuck cares? Captain falcon is still a scary guy to go against. His smash moves alone can rape you.

Besides, did you even watch the nestest vid for ssb4? They said they were changing Pit's up b move. THEY FUCKING SHOWED IT IN ACTION.
Like oh my god, how dense are you. Lol.


Her, just watch this shitty vid of how pit can unleash combos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwT33mY2ruw

  >>131375
>Again, who cares a shit about pro, we are talking about tiers.
...
>Tiers are determined by the best players of those characters and how successful they are in a competitive setting

>I could become pro with shitty characters if I want.
I was going to ask if you were just clucking with me from your previous posts.
You can't be this deluded.

>Captain falcon isn't gonna get removed cause he is a "joke character" or cause he is low tier and whatever.
To clarify, I agree with you. I stated he was a popular character and also acknowledged that the devs don't really care that much about high level play.
ROB was actually a good character and it appears he won't be coming back.

>I would cri.
Yup, you're clucking with me.
Don't even need to reply to the rest because now I know you're joking.

>His smash moves alone can rape you.
Only Brawl related raping he does is in my rule 34 folder.

>Probably didn't know who Sagemoon was until I posted about him
>Thinks a combo video is indicative of how amazing a character is, i.e. you believe this is PITS TWU POWA
You do know that the shittiest of characters in fighting games can pull off combos right?
You do know that the relative ease (or lack thereof), amount of damage and situational-ness of pulling off a combo is what makes a character good right?
There's nothing special about him shitting on his friends at his house. Notice how he didn't do any of that fancy stuff against the D3 player?

>>131380
Oh, I get it now, tiers are made by the pros, and if the pros only play their mains, by logic, they are the best. So if no one played snake, he would be low tier.

I'm not deluded. You're just a tourney tard. Low tiers don't mean a thing. It's how well you are at playing.
In this point, Captain falcon is great. and not a joke character. Sure, his stats may not be as powerful as others. I.E. fox's up smash. But Captain falcon can kick ass. You can't just spam his falcon punch like everypony does. Hell, don't even touch that. Just run in, a up, b up, and then do some air hits.

Hey, you may have agreed with me, but then you brought up the tier and started to say he was bad, and only a handful of characters are good.

Joking? No. Mocking you cause you are stubborn and bull headed? Yes. You are a tourney tard, simple as that.

I mean, look, you are talking about pros and what not. You know what, humor me. Show me a pro pit player. *Shrug* I want to see what you got cause you are so in and deep with the Smash bros scene.

Besides, you are missing my point. About the whole people want to play spamming character. Pit is one of them, which is why he is getting nerfed. The core aspects of what made pit a cheap fighter/spammer is what is at call here. NO TIERS, NO PROS, just spam.
I never once talked about tiers till you brought it up.
I was making a mocking joke at the people who pick spamming op characters. Of them, pit was one. meta knight too. Meta knight was so stupid.

And see, just like you said, any shitty characters can pull of combos and ring out somepony. Which means Pit can take out anypony, pro or not. If somepony were to main him and be pro, he could do well. But I am talking about pit is good, and same goes to Captain falcon. While you are busy stroking your e-peen cause you played with pros and their tiers say they are shit characters or something.

I don't even know what you are going off about now.
All I know and all I have been saying is pit is a spamming character. The vid shows it, right? BUT he can be played to the point where he can kick ass.
It's 2 different levels. Like I said before, novice Vs pro.
You have the Novice who sees what he can do (Long recovery, can shoot across the map, shield to reflect, spinning attack dash move, etc) and they think about how they are invincible. Then you got somepony of pro logic who knows when to use them at the right time.

I don't give a shit how many pros you have played with, or how you play. Pit is a good characters, even if some pros made a list saying who is bad or good. T

>>131381
>In this point, Captain falcon is great. and not a joke character.
Then how do you explain
>Captain Falcon is currently ranked 34th on the tier list as a result of the nerf of his attack, speed and KO-ing power from Melee, low shieldstun, poor hitboxes for his aerials (making safe approaches nearly impossible, especially when considering his lack of projectiles), the impact of the new Brawl physics (which arguably hit Captain Falcon the hardest; less hitstun and the loss of L-canceling result in drastically fewer, weaker combos, and a less effective dashdance and inability to moonwalk give him even fewer options), fairly poor Out of Shield options due his very short grab range and mediocre range in his jab, predictable recovery, low traction, and poor overall tournament results, resulting in bad match-ups, only a few of which are in his favor, and some of which are as low as 25/75, although many mid tiers are only slightly disadvantageous.
Can you provide a substantial argument against this besides, "Lol he doesn't suck you just have to know how to use him"?

In regular casual play, then sure, you can probably easily win with whoever you want. But take a bit of time to actually git gud, play against other people who got gud, and you'll see what the tiers mean. Some characters are simply more advantageous against other characters. It's not a matter of playing them right, it's an implicit fact of the character. Meta Knight is as high-tiered as he is not because he has spammable moves, but because he's fast, powerful and has multiple recovery options.

That said, I feel you should at least check out the competitive scene. They aren't actually "Fox only final destination". They do legitimately love underdogs. You could play Captain Falcon in the brawl meta and people wouldn't make fun of you. It's not impossible to win, you're just gimping yourself severely.

Of course as I said earlier, the brawl meta sucks anyway and everypony's moved on to Project M.

>>131381
>I'm not deluded. You're just a tourney tard.
Right. According to you the world is flat, everything is even and I'm just a realist.

>>131382
>>131383
>>131388
And you have all missed the point.
I never once said anything about pro's, or tiers
It' was all this fucking guy >>131388
I don't care about pros, I just like playing SSB.

And when I have played, against both pro people and people new to it, I have seen one thing. People picking spamming characters, that is fucking it. Like what they hell are you guys even going on about now? I don't even care about it.

All I was literally saying was Pit can be a spammy character, and people tend to pick him for that. God. Like holy hell. Understand what I am saying before trying to bash me.

I have done tournaments, I have seen people in action who could go pro. I know all about it. Here, let me just simplify this to 2 posts. My main, and the side one that started off cause cpbu wanted to be all smug and tlak about the pros he plays with.


My main point was a mocking post at how people see character like pit, and metaknight and think "If I spam these buttons, I win" They same fucking idea with pickachu and kirby in melee.
That is it. People picked pikacu in melee and spammed b down. Now people pick metaknight in brawl and spam b. And that's what those characters are know for. That is fucking it.

My other sub-post, after you guy all brought up meta is this
Who gives a shit about the meta. I don't care what the ranking is at all. Each character is good in their own ways. I honstly don't give a shit about tiers or any numbers. All I care about is what I need to do, to kill somepony.
For example, Samus, in melee, my main course of action was to run into somepony, and a down. They nerfed this heavily in brawl. So then I moved on to combing her b and side b. I don't care if she went down tiers, I still mained her and kicked ass.

But again, my main post was about how pit was seen as a spammy character, and mocking the people who pick him to try and win games. I see noobs pick up the game, go to him, and just reflect everything and use b, then just glide back in.

>>131388
Dude, you brought up out of nowhere that you played with the best people, and how you know tiers, and everything else about pros and tournaments. Either you are tourney tard, or just somepony who is really smug.
Cool, you know pros. Again, I don't really give a shit unless you won a trophy or something.



>>131383
See, at least this anon fucking gets it. Thank you for that.
Like I said, I have done tournaments and what not. Gone my mains, kicked butt, won some cash. Was fun. I mean, I am the guy who picks the underdogs and gets really good at them. Like I said before, I was making a simple joke at the meta game and spammy characters, and how people will pick them just to try and win. Then people had to over react and go all crazy on me.

I never once said anything about pros, just that I have seen people play with meta knight and pit, just cause they can win with spam.

>>131389
>I don't care about pros, I just like playing SSB.
I 100% understand what you're saying. You're saying you loves to go to the zoo and a lion can be as cool as a lioness, meanwhile I'm a zoologist and telling you the lioness is actually cooler because it's the hunter and provides food for the pack while you just yammer on about how every dopey friend and acquaintance you know loves lions more because of their manes. None of you actually know shit about that family of animals. I'm fine with that, as long as that makes you happy, just don't go spouting off shit like the lion is the hunter though when it clearly isn't.

>I honstly don't give a shit about tiers or any numbers. All I care about is what I need to do, to kill somepony.
Those numbers are what make it so that you can kill people.
Certain characters have a easier time and better numbers for killing characters, this is where tiers come from.

>Dude, you brought up out of nowhere that you played with the best people
Well you brought up that you were getting wrecked by a shitty character and you asked how I knew he was shitty:
>>131338
>Really?

>Cool, you know pros. Again, I don't really give a shit unless you won a trophy or something.
You obliviously do. You mentioned I played with pros three times in this one post, more times then I actually said i did in the whole thread. No, I don't have trophy and at most tournaments they don't give those out because it's a waste of time and money.
But you wanna know who else doesn't have a trophy? Pit players. Sagemoon won once and no other reputable players were even there.
So lets play connect the dots here.
The best player of a specific character won at a tournament where there were no better players that play better characters but has never won at a tourney where said better players were...

>See, at least this anon fucking gets it.
I don't think you get his post. Gimped means at a disadvantage.

>>131392
>Those numbers are what make it so that you can kill people.
...I thought that SSB was about making Mario punch Pikachu in the face, not about killing...

  >>131393

>>131291
Where is palutena tho???

>>131457
I'm guessing you meant to quote the roster leak image.
It was confirmed fake but that list of characters seems about right minus Chrom, it could just as easily be "masked Marth" from the new game as the second FE rep.

If it's one complaint I have, it's the humanoid Pokémon characters.

We had Mewtwo in melee, Lucario in brawl (and is returning for smash 4) and now greninja.
We don't need another humanlike pokémon in smash. I would have actually been happier if we saw an appearance of one of the gen 5 starters, as none of them are as humanoid as the gen 6 starters.

So, not sure how many people heard about the rumor about NFC and Super smash bros, but just saw this and I did let out a happy sigh.

http://wiiudaily.com/2014/05/super-smash-bros-nfc-rumor/

I had a friend tell me that they were going to use NFC to put later characters in, and all that. I really thought I was about to see that happen, and the only way to get somepony like mewtwo, would to buy a 10$ figure.

Thoughts?

>>131574
They'd probably charge roughly ten dollars either way, figure or not.

>>131577
I really don't want to see this become the way of capcom with street fighter.

I mean yea, all the new characters are awesome and I'm happy with them, but I want to play as my mains without having to throw out some more cash. The figures would be cool though.

>>131580
Brightside is you would be able to bring the DLC with you as opposed to Nintendo's shitty "content is tied to the console" policy.

Apparently I'm the only one still really and truly wishes for somepony from Golden Sun will make playable character status. At the very least, a better Assist Trophy.

>>131638
And I'm probably the only one still hoping travis touchdown makes it in somehow.

>>131639
I'd make the case that No More Heroes isn't a series that Smash Bros. would want a character in, but I recently saw a video that explained ways around getting an M rating. And if they had Snake, Travis wouldn't be much of a problem either.

I've never played NMH though, so my interest for Travis being playable is minimal.

>>131640
And that's exactly what I thought too. I mean yeah, MGS is a M rated game, full of cussing, violence, blood, nudity, etc....

But Travis kinda takes it up a notch...
I mean yeah, they could take out of the curse words, and make sure that it's E. Suda did talk once about wanting to have Travis in the game, so still hoping that happens somewhere.


And go play NMH. It's amazing.

Travis won't be in. No plans for a third game, so no benefit to advertise him.

New hope for Klonoa, his GBA game was released on VC.
They could announce his inclusion and a Wii U exclusive game at the same time.

>>131647
That is pretty true. Nintendo kinda did go the way with "Hey, we just made a bunch of new games or are about to make new games. These guys get in smash for free"
It kinda makes me think of playstation all stars and how that was just a game made to make other people buy games.

And if they do put Klonoa in there, I'm gonna flip my shit, in the good way. That guy needs way more love.

>>131648
Well they know it will sell millions regardless of who they add, so why not spread awareness of other franchises?

Because you guys were talking about M rated characters, I think Bayonetta has a chance if this guy doesn't make it in.

>>131654
>I think Bayonetta has a chance

Nice to know that I'm not the only one who wouldn't be too surprised if she got in, seeing as Nintendo will be publishing Bayonetta 2. They'd just need to make her less sexual.

>>131655
>Bayonetta less sexual
But that's her entire shtick. I feel like it wouldn't quite be the same if we weren't shown teasing shots of butt and side-boob.

But hey, that's just me.

Because the 3DS and WU versions are identical gameplay/character-wise you need to take into account the limitations of the 3DS, I doubt the system could handle dynamically changing her appearance.
So she either wouldn't change at all or would change to one other look for all her special moves, which would probably be the same one she had for Max Anarchy. So no side boob.

50/50 chance she'll get in.

>>131654
True. That is one way about it

And he's not making it in. He's an assist trophy I am pretty sure.

>>131242
Oh my God, another Lip/Panel de Pon fan. I love you.

I think that since Sonic is alredy repping Sega, Bayonetta has a much smaller chance of getting in.

>>131756
Too bad Bayonetta has nothing to do with Sega.
Game was made by Platinum which is its own company, Sega just published the first one.

Although I don't think we'll get any more third party, E3 was the last chance for a huge announcement with the 3DS version just months away.
We'll get a few more minor announcements of returning characters, possibly one or two newcomers and some won't be confirmed but left as secrets for players to discover upon launch.

Current roster is weird as-is.

Annnnnnnnnnnd they announce a third party character.

3DS version no longer slated for summer release. October.

>>131765
Well, better start saving up cash if I want to afford it and Borderlands the Pre-Sequel as well...

>>131766
I can't figure out if that's going to be a full on Borderlands game, or just a glorified DLC. I might sit it out till the real Borderlands 3 comes out.

>>131767
They have said that it's between BL1 and BL2 in terms of content, so I'd think it will have both a fair amount of content and a fair price.

Plus, playable Claptrap and more Handsome Jack, could you really ask for more?

Oh, and there's also that "Tales from the Borderlands" thing that Telltales is working on.

Oh, looks like my post never went through last time.

I got to play smash over the week, and it was awesome. Went wii fit trainer and she was weird as fuck. Went samus then and got to sudden death against megaman. Got picked up and then tossed and lost.

Was worth waiting in line 3 hours for that

>>131757
Sega actually owns the Bayonetta IP.

  >>131789
You're right, just looked into it.
Platinum shares the IP with Sega.
Nintendo is doing a similar deal like MS did with the first Mass Effect and Deadrising 3. Nintendo owns all rights to B2 but Sega/Platinum still own the franchise.
I originally thought Sega just published the first one.

Yo guys, looks like the professional scene for the game is in trouble according to somepony that isn't a professional player.

>Ridey deconfirmed
Wat

>>131799
That guy....
Just, what is he even going on about? Most of his statements contradict each other, and that whole mini rant about how much he dislikes Sakurai.


Sure, in terms of professional play, I see project M getting more love than brawl ever will, but I still played brawl and use my skills from the fighters I play, to win 1v1 or 2v2. I mean, is he saying now that 4 is just gonna be spammy character or one character is gonna be op as hell?

I'm just waiting for the day that I can play Mac V Mac. That's gonna be intense as hell.

  >>131809
>that whole mini rant about how much he dislikes Sakurai
My guess is over all the years of people running up to him and demanding characters to get into Smash and everypony shitting on him constantly and saying he makes bad games or how they could make a better game then him has made him act and come off a certain way.
Like being pissed and saying no to every retarded thing somepony says could be perceived as being cocky.

As long as characters don't live forever like in Brawl, the general combat being a little slower isn't that bad. They balance each other out.

>Toby putting in work

  Finals for the invitational.
Hungrybox, Jiggly player in Melee. Doesn't really play Brawl.
ZeRo, Brawl player from Chile and easily the best one in all of South America.

Why Mew2King wasn't invited is beyond me.
Will post a video of him playing next.

  Here's another match with M2K and Armada.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om3PHbmiEZI

  Last video I'm spamming for now.
Unlike Max's friend Matt, Max doesn't really complain about the game as much.
He does note the recovery frames after moves but for the most part he just comments on the how the game is different from past iterations.

Seriously, what's this bullhonkey about Ridley being "deconfirmed"?

>>131810
I think that guy just had a stick up his ass, but yeah, sakurai knows what he is doing and knows just how big his game is. And from what I've seen, the comp style is still here to stay
>>131816
And now that's how you make a good hands on review vid.
>>131817
Mostly just people being whiny bitches.
All we know about ridley is that he is probably gonna be a map boss, much like yellow devil.

  >>131826
>All we know about ridley is that he is probably gonna be a map boss, much like yellow devil.
Which means he probably won't be playable. Toon Link gets replaced on the Spirit Tracks stage when he is played, what would happen when Ridley is played?
I mean I guess they could replace him with Mecha Ridley, a different color that players wouldn't be able to select or maybe a different character from the Metroid universe/another Nintendo franchise, but it's more likely that he just won't be playable.
Although they could be super paraspriting and that shadow over the Metroid stage could have nothing to do with Ridley or him being a boss, could be a complete red herring.


Hello and welcome. Today we are coming directly to you.
We have a Smash Brothers video that we would like to show today.
[Video plays showing the "Ridley shadow scene"]
Do you remember this from our previous video when we mentioned other boss characters like the Yellow Devil appearing on the stage?
[Ridley lands, montage starts of Ridley wooping people on the stage plays. Character announcement background pops up behind him with some phrase "Ridley roars onto the field!" or whatever.]
The highly requested Metroid character joins Super Smash Brothers.
[Plays epic Ridley theme as they show footage of him fighting on other stages. Then cuts to some dramatic scene back on the Metroid stage and Kraid bursts out of the bottom of the background.]
This is Kraid, he's really big compared to the player characters. Too big to be playable. ((HUEHUEHUE))
[The fighters keep fighting each other on the stage as Kraids claws wave around on both sides of the stage.]
These players shouldn't ignore the boss.
[He lifts one claw and slaps the stage upside down, all the fighters fall to their death.]
You need to attack his hands before he flips the stage.
[Now showing the fighters attacking the hands and Kraid doing stun animations every time his hand raising is interrupted.]
You can also climb on his hands and use them to your advantage.
[Shows players walking, fighting and hanging off his hands.]
He can be defeated if you deal enough damage.
[Show Kraid slowly fall back down after being attacked. Then que up some other teaser.]

That's just apart of my Nintendo Direct fan fiction I right, the next part involves Iwata and Reggie making out but I'll omit that part here.

Oh yeah, here's the 3DS review.

Some retard from the ESRB who probably now got shitcanned leaked most of the roster and content for the game.

Most of the returning cast doesn't surprise me aside from ROB. Unsure why they brought back Dr. Mario, guessing so Mario can keep the water canon but return the cape to the game.

Most of the new comers don't surprise me because of previous leaks except for Duck Hunt, really sad we didn't get to see some of his gameplay although it's speculated he's a Olimar clone.
Dark Pit is retarded, they had so many good characters they could have picked from Uprising.

Still one more first party character to be revealed, not everypony was unlocked because this person had All Star mode locked.
I won't be upset if it's Chorus Men but I hope it's somepony I wouldn't have expected like Duck Hunt.

Still no Golden Sun. Still so much disappoint. Definitely would be better than stupid Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, or fucking duck hunt bullshit.