I stopped playing after number thirteen and mostly agree with your list. 8 was okay though - the story and drawing were annoying, but apart from that it was still an enjoyable RPG.

7 and 9 are my favs, but 10 and everything after it is complete shit imho.

Dat armpit though

I stopped caring about this series a long time ago. Here's a rating for the few I played.

FF 5: 6/10
FF 6: 10/10
FF 7: 8/10
FF 8: 3/10

>8: Shit
>FF 8: 3/10

Finally, somepony agrees with me.

1: Meh
2: Shit
3: Need to play this tbh
4: Great
5: Great
6: Best in the series
7: Meh
8: Shit
9: Haven't played yet
10: Meh (haven't played 10-2)
11: Will probably never play because PS2 MMO
12: Good
13: Not as bad as people say IMO, but it's still below average because Hope, Snow, and linearity (haven't played 13-2 or 13-3)
14: Hesitant to play because MMO

>>131483
>11: Will probably never play because PS2 MMO
They shut down the PS2 servers a while ago IIRC. 360 and PC version are still up, they just did a new expansion like right before the PS4 version of 14 came out. More hardcore players prefer 11 over 14.
>14: Hesitant to play because MMO
It's alright, nothing special. Just WoW with a FF skin. I really hated it when I started playing it but started enjoying it as I got more into it. Avoid the PS3 version, plays/looks/runs like complete shit now.


Dragon Quest is a better franchise, fact.

1: Okay
2: Shit
3: Never really played it
4: Meh
5: 10/10, 10/10, BEST GAME, BEST GAME, HAVE MY CHILDREN.
6: Fucking Art
7:Alright, I suppose, not as enthralled by it as most
8:Okay
9:WHY IS THIS NOT PORTED TO PC YET?
10/10-2: Never played
11: WHY IS THIS AN MMO?
12:Alright
13: THIS IS A PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT
13-2: OH MY GOD WHY DID YOU MAKE ANOTHER ONE?
Lighting Returns: SERIOUSLY? YOU SKIPPED A 3DS REMAKE OF FINAL FANTASY V FOR A SHITTY FRANCHISE BUILT OFF A SHITTY GAME? WHY IS LIGHTING SO FUCKING ADORED ANYWAY? SHE'S ONE OF THE MOST BORING FUCKING CHARACTERS IN THIS SERIES FUCK YOU SQUEENIX
14: AND HERE COMES ANOTHER MMO AAAAAAAAA

I) 7 / 10
II) 7 / 10
III) 8 / 10
IV) 7 / 10
V) 9 / 10
VI) 6 / 10
VII) 7 / 10
VIII) 5 / 10
IX) 9 / 10
X) 7 / 10
XI) Haha what
X-2) 8 / 10
XII) 7 / 10
XIII/XIII-2) 6 / 10
XIV) what what haha what haha

ITT: opinions

>>131488
It's always just opinions.

>>131485
That Lightning returns review made giggle.

I see these threads and always feel I'm the only one who think ffx was amazing. The only issues I can think of are the ease of combat, not referring to Tidus by his name, and that creepy laugh thing that made me scared of video game teeth.

>>131479
>Doesn't list Sazh as a pro for FF13

>>131491
FF13 would be a thousand times better if Sazh was the protagonist.

I mean, he's pretty much the only legitimately likeable guy in the entire godamn 13 series. A normal everyman guy who really cares about his son, and while not exactly hero material, still tries to do the right thing.

Only ones I've played are IV (shit game), VI (good, but only that. It's shadowed by Chrono Trigger in almost every area) and IX (pretty great, would be excellent if it weren't for the weak sidequests and optional bosses).

And the FFTA series. Aw yes I love me sum FFTA.

Gotta play V one of these days. That job system is relevant to my interests.

>>131493
PLAY V.

SERIOUSLY.

THE GAMEPLAY IS GODAMN FANTASTIC.

And the story isn't really all that bad as people say. Sure, it doesn't try to tell a grandiose tale like IV or VI, but the story is still very enjoyable if you don't take it very seriously. Hell, the game itself doesn't take it's own story seriously, and sometimes, even takes the piss out of itself.

I recommend playing the GBA version, the script is a lot more cleaned up than the SNES version.

Fun Fact: Tara Strong voiced Rikku in FFX

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>>131495

Teach your mother to suck eggs, sirrah.

>>131494

Will do. Someday. Hopefully.

(so many games to play, so little time *shudder* Damn you, Gaben)

Thanks for the tip btw. I was initially considering the SNES version because it has certainly better sound, but it's good to know that. The GBA version also has additional content, hasn't it? Maybe it's not a bad idea to try that one instead, yeah.

And I'm pretty sure I mind stories in RPGs far less than most people do. I don't think most RPG stories are anything special, to be honest. Two of my favorite RPG series are Tales of and Paper Mario and I mainly like them because of their gameplay and worlds, rather than their plots, so, yeah.

>>131497
To my knowledge, the GBA version has a Bestiary, which is useful to know which monsters hold items that you might wanna steal without having to resort to a walkthrough, and some post-game content including 4 new jobs... albeith they're quite pointless, since by now you already have all the broken Job Masteries combinations (And trust me, you'll want to know these, because Neo Exdeath is FUCKING HARD.
Getting to him isn't easy either, for instance, there's a Superboss as an obstacle and another as a trap in the last dungeon)

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>>131489
The Final Fantasy series in particular amuses me. People will insist that any given game in the entire series is the best and all the others are shit. Some act like the "order of good and bad" is some kind of universal fact only to be completely contradicted by other sources. Particularly lately, people go on and on about how terrible 13 is and how awful all three games are and how they're objectively bad and terrible and there's nothing good about them, and yet they sold really well in Japan. People hold FFVII up above all the other playstation-era games in particular, when the translation of FFVII was a garbled mess that made the game appear far more serious than it actually was. I've personally talked to people who identified a whole lot with Tidus, people who enjoyed the gameplay of X-2 more than any of the other games, people who thought FFIX was overrated, people who hated every single one of the "universally accepted as good" games in the series.

The opinion of the series isn't nearly as unanimous as some seem to think.

>>131499
>Particularly lately, people go on and on about how terrible 13 is and how awful all three games are and how they're objectively bad and terrible and there's nothing good about them, and yet they sold really well in Japan.
How they AREN'T objectively terrible, when they commit so many basic storytelling mistakes? Unless Japan really considers games that literally explain nothing of the setting, and have the protagonists pretty much do exactly what the villain wants knowing that he wants them to do it without any sort of plan to back them up the epitomy of storytelling.

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>>131500
>explain nothing
Final Fantasy XIII has exposition dumps all over the fucking place.

>>131499
>The opinion of the series isn't nearly as unanimous as some seem to think.

Basically this. The fanbase can't make up it's mind on which games are good or not, so if anypony reading this is new to the franchise, just play whatever games interest you (even if you're interested in 13. I personally don't like it, but that's just my opinion) and form your own damn opinions.

>>131502
I think voice acting and advanced graphics and long cutscenes and shit of the post-playstation-era games seem to distract people from the actual narrative and characters of the games more than the SNES-era graphics and music did, because the older games can be just as stupid and ridiculous at times, and the newer games can be just as subtle about things.

Plus there are some things that have always been series staples even in the "good" games. Like having a final boss that appears out of fucking nowhere and is something ludicrous, or having STAGGERING NUMBERS OF GRATUITOUS ASS SHOTS.

Shit, if anypony wants to complain about dumb fanservice, go back and look at Naked Pink Terra or Porom's The After Years outfit which literally is a see-through candycane-colored minidress or Rydia's basically everything Rydia wore after she grew up. And this is all from actual official artwork.

Final Fantasy has always been about sexy sexy people doing crazy heroics, female or otherwise.

>>131503
>Shit, if anypony wants to complain about dumb fanservice, go back and look at Naked Pink Terra or Porom's The After Years
I assume you're talking about Esper Terra...which.... isn't fanservice.... at all. Yeah, she's nude, but it's not to be foxy or anything, it's to properly represent that she's in her Esper form, she's supposed to look more savage and wild, and thus, having her not have clothes empathizes that more. It's not like she loses them or anything, when she changes back she immediately has them back.

And After Years is a much more recent game, it can't really be classified as an old game just because of it's graphics.

Plus, it was fucking shit.

>Final Fantasy has always been about sexy sexy people doing crazy heroics, female or otherwise.
Ignoring the unnatractive party members in Final Fantasies, the "sexy, sexy people" were usually interesting and unique. Not a boring-ass vanilla wannabe badass Femme Cloud, or a trenchcoat-wearing idiot that poorly copies Locke's character arc.

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>>131506
>she just vaporizes her clothes when she turns Super Saiyan, that's not fanservice or anything, there's a totally reasonable excuse for that

True, After Years was kinda a big pile of garbage, but mostly because it has a really really bland, uninteresting villain and tries super hard to do absolutely everything the original did over again to the point of hilarity. It still manages to have some honestly well done character growth in a lot of places. If only Ceodore didn't spend the entire game going "HUH?!?"

>>131507
>she just vaporizes her clothes when she turns Super Saiyan, that's not fanservice or anything, there's a totally reasonable excuse for that
Yeah, because having her shapeshift into a completely alien form, be completely afraid of what she is, and have it be the cataclysm of her character arc is obviously meant to be foxy.

Seriously, you wanna an actual example of fanservice in FF6? Ceres's lack of pants. She's a general, she has no reason to wear nothing but an armored leotard around, and there is no plot-related reason for her to do so.

I actually enjoyed FF 13. And you forgot Crisis Core and Advent Children

>>131519
Those don't count because they are animation, not games.

And one of them is a piece of shit.

>'kind of dated compared to its sequels'

no fucking shit? how did whomever wrote this deduce such an exquisite account of a game released in 1987? I mean you've got to have some genius intuition to assemble the facts and realize the game is nearly 30 years old?


>Final Fantasy Mystic Quest not even fucking mentioned once?

Is whomever made this still a teenager?

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>>131537
Why is Mystic Quest even worth mentioning? It's crap, end of story.

>>131538
I'd still rather play Mystic Quest Legend than FF 8.
At least MQL had great music.

Mostly agree with OP. 4, 6, 7, 9 all good, the rest I could take or leave.

>>131508
>Seriously, you wanna an actual example of fanservice in FF6? Ceres's lack of pants.
There's a serious discontinuity between her sprite (green leotard) and her official art (mostly yellow uniform ala Kill Bill where, yes, she has pants)... not entirely sure how to explain why they went with such different styles for her on this, but maybe it falls into the sprite rule of "if its a girl, make damn well sure you prove its a girl cuz you got like 12 pixels tall to work with here"... eh, things were pretty forgivable back in the sprite days.

Dat Rydia outfit though. Modesty was not even on the table.

>>131541
I do like Celes' outfit, it makes me think of this.

>>131533
False. Crisis Core was an actual game.

>>131540
...I liked 8...

>>131541
>not entirely sure how to explain why they went with such different styles for her on this
That does seen like a recurring thing in this series... Sprites looking awfully different from their artwork, sometimes for the worse (I liked Faris's pirate captain outfit, I thought it fit her character) and others for the best (Like Galuf's skintight leather bodysuit. Keep in mind he's a sexagenarian.)

>Dat Rydia outfit though. Modesty was not even on the table.
Oh yeah, Ain't denying that. And her primary weapon was a whip.

>>131549
Really? Huh, Thought it was a short series.

I dunno, I don't really care about the extended universe of FF7, I didn't care all that much about the core game (It was good, just not... Jesus good), I'm not going to care about the fanfiction.

(Save for Dirge of Cerberus, because holy shit, seriously? You guys wanted this shit to be taken with a straight face)

FFTA is still the best one.

>>131552
I'm sure a lot of people enjoyed it. For me it was one of the three reasons why I quite playing JRPGs - the other two being Chrono Cross and Saga Frontier 2.

>>131540
IMO, FF8 had great music.

Probably it's only redeeming quality.

>>131553
>FFTA
>best
>not Tactics

The fantasy War Of The Roses with an epic subplot about the evil church trying to take over the world and a hero who goes through massive emotional turmoil loses to "I have arbitrarily decided that everypony must do as I say because I said so"

>>131555
>Chrono Cross
Why was that game even related to Chrono Trigger? There was no point to it, other than shit on a upbeat optimistic story of fighting against fate through time and space and bring it down with the cynicism that permeates every single fucking thing these days.

FF1: Wat?
FF2: Sorry, I still can't hear you over Dragon's Quest.
FF3: "Woooah, Final Fantasy II on the SNES is really cool, it's got, like, a story and stuff." "What's Final Fantasy? Who's Squaresoft? OMG, this story is sweeeeet, I'm going to cry now. Moar!"
FF4-FF5: Mythical products of a faraway land.
FF6: "Hey dude, Square made Final Fantasy III." "Awesome, I loved the first, the one with the dark knight that became a paladin, I bet this one is even better." "It totally is!"
FF7: Holy shit, maybe there's something to this whole 3D gaming idea.
FF8: Holy shit, Squaresoft can actually make bad games?
FF9: Okay guys, I think Squaresoft is sorry about making that last bad game, everything's going to be fi-
FFX: GOD DAMMIT, SQUARESOFT, BLITZBALL IS HARD, TITUS IS A BAG OF DICKS, AND IF THIS GAME WASN'T SO BEAUTIFUL I COULD NOT WANK ON MY MOG-SHAPED CLOSET SHRINE ANYMORE.
FF11: Oh, hey, this is actually a lot better than EverQues- THEN WORLD OF WARCRAFT HAPPENED.
F12: GAMBIT?! THE X-MEN ARE IN THIS ONE?! Oh no, actually it's a single player MMORPG. I'm confused, but entertained.
F13: Yeah, maybe one day I'll get a Playstation 3 so we can play this on- TOO LATE.
F14: Awesome, I liked FF11, Square-enix knows how to make good MM- OH FUCK, IT'S RUINED AND BAD, WHY DID YOU - oh hey it's not bad after several years of radical post release revision.

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>>131519
You enjoyed walking through endless hallways and a story so poorly written that it makes twilight look like terry pratchet books?

>>131561
Daily Reminder that Squaresoft is now SquareEnix

>>131563
I was speaking in retro tense, but I kinda escaped me as to which Final Fantasy they made the transition. I know they were just "Square" for awhile before eventually becoming Square Enix.

>>131564
The Square/Enix merger was some time during the development of Final Fantasy XII.

>>131561
Looks like I got FF3 wrong. :P I think was actually FF4 that was released as FF2 in the US.

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>>131568
Yes, Final Fantasy I is Final Fantasy I, Final Fantasy IV is Final Fantasy II, and Final Fantasy VI is Final Fantasy III. II III and V didn't get international releases until quite a while later.

>>131571
And that is a travesty.

How the fuck DARE they deny V for the whole world?

They were right in denying 2, though, that was shit.

>>131572
Yeah I actually don't understand why they chose to omit FFV. It has a decent plot, it has great characterization, it's the first time the series really started playing with the Job system...

II was kinda terribad and III is literally just a generic RPG held together by the introduction of the job system as a mechanic.

>>131575
Speaking of the devil, FF3 just got on Steam.
While on one hand it's cool. I'm just left asking WHY THE FUCK DON'T YOU PORT OVER IX ALREADY? NOW WE KNOW YOU CAN DO GAMES THAT WEREN'T PORTED TO PC BEFORE, WHAT'S STOPPING YOU?

>>131578
They remade/ported FFIII because it's the best of the ones they know nobody really likes, it has the job system going for it, and it's generic as balls. So they can practice porting things onto a PC platform.

>>131579
Which reminds me... WHY DON'T THEY PORT V TO A 3D PLATFORM ALREADY? THAT GAME IS FUCKING AWESOME, IT DESERVES MORE LOVE.

Also 6, because seriously, that game is fucking art.

And IX, because good god, man.

>>131583

Personally, I wish 9 wold get remade with realistic models like 8 and 10.

Superdeformed just rubs me the wrong way.

>>131583
1: they want to practice on less successful installments first.
2: they know IV V and VI will sell assloads so they can keep them for when the company is doing poorly.

>>131586
...Not really. IV yes, but V isn't really all that popular, and VI, from what I've heard, is fairly unpopular in Japan.

>>131590
>VI, from what I've heard, is fairly unpopular in Japan
Haha, Japan with superior taste to Americans once again.

>>131592
They liked XIII

They liked the adventures of Lametning and sNOw.

They are not allowed to be harbingers of good taste.

>>131607
>>131592
>bickering about personal taste even more

>>131607
>they liked walking through a narrow halway and doing auto battles

I'd say I am a Final Fantasy fan... up to FFX. I lost interest since then.

>>131494
my issue with 5 is the pacing is pretty bad. It starts out pretty great, constantly getting new abilities consistantly. But as you go on, certain abilities take forever to get, other abilities are totally useless, etc. The other issue is the game will often tell you to go somewhere once, and never again, or just leave it pretty vague overall. This means if you haven't played in a bit, you end up lost as shit and it sucks. But overall yeah, pretty good game. I say 6 is much better though.

>>131716
I dunno, I thought the pacing was just fine.

And some abilities are meant to take very long to get, because they're generally the key to ultra-broken combos. (8-Strike Flareblade, anybody?)

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>>131480
>7 and 9 are my favs
THIS MAN
HE GETS IT
VI a shit

>>131788
How does it feel to have a terrible taste in JRPGs?

>>131800
>Implying 9 is shit
Bitch Imma cut you.

>>131801
I'm not saying that 9 is shit. I just think that anypony who loves 7 and thinks that 6 is shit has shit taste.

>>131800
I dunno.
How does it feel?

Is there anypony here who likes this guy?
If so: Why? Why why why whywhywhywhy? Maybe it was the limitations of 16bit or shoddy translation, but he is one of the most boring villains I've ever seen. His entire motivation is "I wanna kill everything, because I'm a dick", which he doesn't even do well, considering he spends an ENTIRE YEAR just sitting around with God powers.

>>132056
Me.

I like Kefka because... well... he's just a simple bad guy. He's a completely amoral psychopath who laughs his ass off at the atrocities that he commits, and has an overall interesting arc, starting from a complete joke and ending as a God of evil.

As for "sitting on his ass for a year", well, what would you have done? I mean, he already won, he became a God and nobody dared defy him, he really had nothing else to do but torment the survivors of his Armageddon and occasionally admire himself in the mirror. That's like complaining that the heroes are just sitting on their asses doing nothing with the peace they conquered and the power they gathered after defeating the bad guy. That was it, he won. Killing him was less about saving the world as it was the first step in un-fucking it.

I dunno, I just like a villain that's direct and simple in his motivations, compared to "I'm going to blow up the world to become a God because this head I think is my mommy told me so", or "I'm going to compress time to create a world where only I can survive because... because.", or... whatever the fuck Yu Yevon was trying to do, or "We're going to kill everything until our daddy comes back".

>>132057
>As for "sitting on his ass for a year", well, what would you have done?
Didn't he establish that he hated everything and just wanted it all to stop being around? "Why do people cling to life", "Monument to non-existence", etc etc.? He never gave any indication that his motivation was to rule, just to kill. Then when he's given the ULTIMATE opportunity to do that, unopposed, he does piss all. Complete change of heart. In all that time he Zeuses 2 towns and that's it. Did he even appear before the boss fight?
He didn't 'win', because he didn't achieve his goal. Which is especially embarrassing considering he had 364 days to do it in and decided instead to just twiddle his thumbs until the only people who could have potentially stopped him had found each other, climbed his mountain and knocked down his door. He doesn't even try to impede them; I can respect a villain who's intelligent enough to recognize a threat & plot to neutralize them, Kefka's purely reactionary.
It's just bad writing and makes him look worse, IMO. I get it, if his characterisation was consistent there'd be no game after that halfway point, but that's why most villains DON'T achieve the ultimate power. Because they're usually competent. The heroes are obligated to stop them before it comes to that, because otherwise everypony would be well and truly FUCKED.

>>132062
Well, if he just destroyed everything right away, then he would be alone until he eventually killed himself, and that's no fun. He's just being smart and destroying in short burst enough to get his jollies off but not so but so that there's still enough people to repopulate and build new shit.

And you're implying people WEREN'T fucked when Kefka was in charge? Yeah, living in a world that's so blasted nothing can grow, filled with bloodthirsty monsters roaming the land, where anytime the resident god can get bored and just vaporize you and your entire family for a laugh. Truly, I don't see why the party tried to take him down, clearly, things were just fine.

>>132063
I didn't imply that, no need for sarcasm. Just that 2 towns in an entire year in kinda pathetic (and even then it was only because they "disobeyed" him). They could have driven the point that it was meant to be Hell on Earth in a LOT more effectively, especially considering the more bustling cities just get on with business as usual. Also monsters were already roaming, it's a bloomin' Final Fantasy game.

>>132064
Yeah, but the monsters were far, far worse.

And I think there's a point where gameplay and story segregation must come into play, it would suck if all the stores had to sell was slimy piles of glop that one day were potions.

Still, fair enough. I thought that the few examples that we saw was enough to convince me that the World of Ruin sucked, you needed more evidence, this falls down more to personal taste at this point.

>>132065
A'ight. Good talk.

I liked the remastered graphics for later iterations of FF1, but it sucked that they went and made the game easier. I preferred the PSX version, which still had the Normal difficulty and NES style options.

Best Final Fantasy game

>>132087

Easier? I blundered into a bonus dungeon by mistake and spent a week getting my ass handed to me.

FF 1: Pretty good
FF 2: Fun
FF 3: Okay
FF 4: Awesome
FF 4 - The After Years: Ok
FF 5: Great
FF 6: Best thing ever
FF 7: Pretty good
FF 8: Loved it, for some reason
FF 9: Fantastic
FF 10: Ok
FF 10-2: Did not play
FF 11: An MMO, so I did not play it
FF 12: Okay game. Liked Fran
FF 12 - Revenant Wings: Okay.
FF 13: Okay.
FF 13-2: Awesome.
FF 13-3: Did not play yet.
FF 14: An MMO, so I did not play.
FF Tactics: Awesome
FF Tactics Advanced: Ok
FF Tactics A2: Ok
Dissidia: Fun.
Dissidia 2: Even better than Dissidia.
FFCC: Loved it.
FF Mystic Quest: Loved it. So many memories.