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http://ponycountdown.com/
Advertising Fillyized

>>1017141
Quirky. And good.

I remember a while ago when 4chan boards made comical ads to annoy the boards they were aimed at. I remember especially an ad on /a/: "MLP: Just like your Chinese cartoons".

>>1017163
Also Fillyized

>>1017174
Something tells me the "Who did this?" thread at the bottom of that pic didn't go over well on /mlp/.

There's (probably) only about 3 months left in the pre-S1 hiatus, and it's been about 3 months since the trailer was released. We're halfway there.

>>1017548
I am serious, and I'm not from a Belgian city.

(That, and I could have needed some Leslie Nielsen pics to go along with this post.)

>>1017565
I have a feeling that those are going to be some long three months ahead of us. I've spent the last month and a half finding stuff for the 'Daily and the occasional /oat/ threads, but who knows how long those'll last.

But I've made this thread in order to provide a unified chatting place for the fandom, so maybe this could be the trick that'll get us through the waiting?

Beautiful.

>>1017870
Yes.

The new Filly toyline for 2014 appears to be "Filly Butterfly". I wonder if it will appear in the show.

Link: http://www.brand-licensing.com/DocPage.aspx?IzmLang=9&DID=20729&DIA=20729&QSI=1&OPS=0&LUR=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brand-licensing.com%2FProductNewsPage.aspx%
3FIzmLang%3D9%26LPS%3D0%26&

>>1019808
I could read most of it while only needing Google Translate for some phrases. Filly Butterfly seems to be the newest addition in their "seasonal releases", and there's another reference to Swarovski in there, this time explicitly to their crystals.

Universal Releases Trends is a name I need to keep in backhand on my search for new sources, and Filly Funtasia are aiming for release on "other multimedia platforms" in addition to a global telly release. The Filly brand was also the third-bestselling toy brand in some way according to the article.

This was a pretty good find in my eyes, though Funtasia Daily usually only deals with stuff that is somewhat related to the show, though you could try submitting it to him still.

I'd guess that development on the show has advanced enough that I don't think Filly Butterflies will be found in the early episodes, but maybe in the later ones if we're lucky.

Last edited at Fri, Jan 10th, 2014 07:04

The year of the Filly is upon us.

>>1020384
Indeed. I remember in an /oat/ thread on the 30th that Positively Pinkie (Kind of a big but silly guy on /oat/, plus a mod) also mentioned that 2014 would be the year of the Filly.

Since I've made Filly threads on /oat/ between every 9 and 14 days, that reminds me that I should do a new one there sometime this weekend, on top of what I'm doing here on /gala/.

(Something I should have added to the quick steps in retrospect, is that Ponychanners have a hard time telling different anons apart, so I may mistake anons for each other or completely new posters.)

I've never seen the show but I've heard a little about it.
Just wanted to wish you good luck with this new serial!

>>1020566
The show is just a trailer (or two, depending on what you'd count) so far, and I wouldn't expect the premiere within at least two months from now.

And thanks. I'll need all the luck I can get with this serial, as it isn't based on a pre-assembled serial community. So far, it's pretty much just me replying to people passing by, so I hope to get regulars at some point.

>>1017163
>people reposting my art
Yooooo. I'm always open for drawfilly requests, but right now, I'm busy with work, so I'll only occasionally post here.

>>1022498
I can't even remember where I got that pic from, but I recall I saw it in a very recent thread and saved it. Do you perhaps have more art hidden away somewhere if you want to share? It's at least not on DA's Filly group now or on what I can remember from FillyRT, which are my 2 of my 3 main sources for new fanart.

I've never been good at requesting stuff from drawfillies, mostly because I can't come up with any good ideas to request.

>>1022543
http://leahcinnamon.tumblr.com/tagged/my%20art
Here you go. Do you have a link to that thread?

>>1022597
Ah, now I remember having looked through your Tumblr before. I prefer to give the pics I save situational names instead of including artist names, and I couldn't see any connection between the name Four Leaves and anything else. That also meant that my gamble on using the pic in >>1022543 went much better than expected.

It was a thread on /oat/ about twelve days ago, and threads there bite the dust after about three days, so it's dead by now.

https://twitter.com/brbint/status/421983529887465472
What does it mean?

Also, here's a pic you probably haven't seen unless you browsed the /mlp/ threads (RIP in peace).

>>1025125
My money is on the Filly franchise (as a whole or just Funtasia) getting their own user/channel/profile on Facebook, Twitter, and perhaps one or two additional places.

And that poster provides some interesting background to >>1019808, and since I haven't seen it yet (I was lurking at /ffg/ about once or twice), here's some reactional steps to it:
>#1/#2 toys and girls? I thought it was the other way around with #3/#1. Maybe girls weren't just about girl toys here?
>I can assure they have an interactive website, and some apps with little to do, but "fan club, and online community"? Are there Filly toy forums out there, or are they referring to the Funtasia fans?
>"Commitment to brand platforms, including (...) confectionary". So, we'll see Filly candy in stores someday?
>An audience of 5-10 matches a TBI article mentioning they were aiming for 10-years old who grew up with Filly.

>mine countenance whereupon

>>1027333
>mine countenance whereupon

This week's /oat/ thread is currently on. >>/oat/38867078

Though it'll probably run some hours, I'm primarily mentioning this for archiving purposes so that people can catch its contents within roughly the next three days.

>>1019808
Found something
http://dracco.filly.com/us/butterfly/home/
The Butterfly collection already has a German and even an English page up. There's no "undefined" parts unlike the English Witchy page, which is still like that. The collections part has hover-over names for the characters to make looking through them easier.
>They have the same Flower, Heart, Sun, Leaf, Water, and Special groups as the other races/species
>Most of the "families" are just groups of friends
>Freya and Saz have a pet caterpillar named Pinky
All of this is reminding me of the episode Sonic Rainboom. If Nina or Scarlet had horns they'd remind me of Rarity's winged form further.

>>1027954
It only took them three days to get a website up and running? Good find, by the way.

The first thing I notice is that many of the butterfly fillies have very ordinary names. Jack, Nina, Emma, Victoria, Max, and a few others. The other is that they're fond of having caterpillars and moths as pets.

How big could they be? Are they far smaller than the other Filly types (in spite of Elves and Fairies standing at a regular height), are all the types the same height (which would make the Butterfly pets very small), or are all of them very tiny?

filly fantasia!! filly fantasia... ah ah ah ahhhh

>>1027972
Filly Fantasiaah... I used to wonder what crystal magic could be~

>>1027970
The ordinary names are something, there's no lack of names they could possibly use whether it's European or English, so that's a bit odd. Maybe because it'll be one of the first Filly Collections to come to the US so they're using more relate-able names. But then again, more fantasy sounding names should hinder the market for little cutesy figurines like these. I just don't know.

The Butterfly Fillies could be smaller than the other Filly races, it would make the Filliverse more interesting, but I doubt it. The possible huge size of the pets could just be chalked up to "It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit!"

>>1028037
I think Filly's American toy release will focus on the early brands and then what was released after that, instead of skipping straight to the new stuff. That's how very many foreign broadcasts of American telly shows work, and I think the early American FiM blindbag releases worked that way.

So a 40 centimetre tall and metre-long (1'4''-ish and 3'4'') caterpillar could be a thing? Strawberry Shortcake BBA had a centipede thing higher than the girls, and much, much longer, but in that show the characters were like 6cm tall anyways.

>>1028037
Fuck, just seen it. Way too late to edit. Meant: But then again, more fantasy sounding names shouldn't hinder the market for little cutesy figurines like these.

>>1028959
I had to read through >>1028037 a few times, but I came to that conclusion in the end.

Maybe the franchise is attempting an Aerith and Bob [tvtropes.org] as a whole, and either ran out of unusual names for a while, or wanted more balance between common and fantasy names?

>>1027954
These Breezies kinda look like those Filly Butterflies

http://www.equestriadaily.com/2014/01/breezies-mysterious-plushies-and-future.html

>>1030378
I remember the Breezies well from back when I was looking through almost all of G3 Standard. I have a hard time believing that there'll be a FiM episode based on them, but then, I actually refused to believe that a FiM episode could be called Daring Don't until the very day it was broadcast.

But back to the G3 Breezies: I can see many similarities, especially with the antennas and muzzles. The Breezies had a more fairy type of wings, however, while the Butterflies look more artsy and butterfly-like.

http://dracco.filly.com/us/wedding/home/
Royal weddings confirmed for brawl.

>>1032581
At first, I was like "wut". Then I began to laugh. A lot. Then, when I took a look at their Filly Tree, I was back to "wut" again.

What else could I compare this with than Canterlot Wedding? Especially the promotion said episodes had? The "happy bride(s) and groom(s)" feeling feels pretty much exactly the same.

-The front page makes it hard to figure who's male and who's female, at least until I began looking at their attires. The Filly Tree explains it better, however.
-The Collection fillies doesn't seem to be clickable, which leaves their personalities (besides how they hooked up) in the blue.
-The story mentions a cake that changes flavour so that each guest gets their favourite flavour. If I got a brownie-carrot-strawberry-ish cake, I'd almost want to go to their multi-wedding just for that.

They should do Space Fillies as part of their collectible toys some day, that would be awesome.

>>1033334
I wonder what those'd be. Could they be astronauts, creatures living in space (or on a moon), scientist-ish fillies at a planet observatory, or maybe an invading/coming-in-peace group from somewhere else ("Magic Fillies from Outer Space")?

Also, I actually have an art request at this point if you're looking for something to do: I request an interpretation of how the Magic Mirror looked like before he became a mirror.

>>1033361
I actually think the Magic Mirror was once a human. Including Battiwigs. Transformed humans. That's probably a shitty headcanon, right? Right now I'm still busy, but I see what I can do tomorrow. If not human, then more like a huge human-shaped fire that can change form at will. I think the joke will be that without the mirror, he's super OP but he's trapped in it and has Battiwigs do all the work because he can't move.
Some site mentioned he has the objective to steal magic. He probably wants to steal enough magic to break the mirror curse and return to his old evil overlord form.
At the very least, in the trailer he seems strong enough to slap Batti out of the window with his magic.

For the Space Fillies, I thought more like aliens living on a tiny planet, or a big space station that has Fillies from all kinds of places visiting and having fun together, including from Filly Funtasia. One could easily work in Magic, the Fairy King in there, since his magic is supposedly the "most powerful in the universe" according to the site, which is oddly specific. He would power the space station and this is also why he only visits Fairy Kingdom once a year. His "dark ship" mentioned in his bio that comes from "far realms beyond the magical land" could also be a space ship.

>>1037435
It's certainly an odd headcanon, but then, what shows are there that doesn't have headcanons involve at least aspects of a post-apocalyptic human society?

>He probably wants to steal enough magic to break the mirror curse and return to his old evil overlord form.
I'm pretty sure too it could be something like that.

>At the very least, in the trailer he seems strong enough to slap Batti out of the window with his magic.
Wasn't Batti slammed against a white wall on the outside? Could work if the dark room's window led out to a corridor, but my guess is that it's an explosion (or other force) caused by something involving the episode's climax.

>Right now I'm still busy, but I see what I can do tomorrow.
Interesting to note, is that an up-and-coming (and still quite established) artist decided to draw that request too yesterday, the result of which (or one-half of it; the other half just had a different cape colour) is behind the pic spoiler in case you want to wait with seeing it until later. The /oat/ thread I linked in this thread some days ago lasted... longer than expected, so that's where she's been at. Keep this artist name in mind: Time Lord.

The Space Fillies idea sounds good, but it could get strange if the Fairy King was in control of two distinct types at the same time. I imagine everything from loyalty conflicts to in-universe conspiracy theories coming from this.

Last edited at Fri, Jan 17th, 2014 09:15

>>1037462
I'd like it if Magic is sort of a black sheep under the specials, I think he's the only male, he constantly leaves his kingdom (in comparison to most other rulers who at least visit it once a month or even throw parties). It doesn't have to be him who is the ruler of the Space Fillies, he could have just romanced the Space Queen or something like that.

I don't really think post-apo, I just mean humans or human-like beings in a sort of fantasy setting. As long as we don't go modern, they are not that out of place.

I do think Batti was slapped by the magic. If you look closely before he slams into the wall, he comes out of a window where the same stool the Wizard was leaned on is locked onto the window, and when he tries to sit up, little stools fly around his head like that traditional "birds flying around the head" visual gag, suggesting that the Wizard moved the stool with his magic and slapped Battiwigs outside with it. I could be wrong, of course.

So far from the specials we have:
"Pearl", greedy Mermaid Empress who has hidden a giant treasure somewhere down in the sea.
"Jewel", the teleporting princess of the elves. To no surprise, she channels Galadriel and lives in a giant tree palace.
The ice unicorns either have no ruler or listen to Princess Sparkle.
"Sparkle", the cute princess of the unicorns, who spreads harmony (!!) and likes to throw parties more than anything. In FF, she's the headmistress.
"Magic", the Fairy King and an alicorn (Fairy+Unicorn) who only visits once a year and is said to hold magic more powerful than anyone else in the universe.
"Crystal", for once not a ruler but a mysterious princess who shows up at all the big parties and gives out all her cash but nobody really knows who she really is.
"Abra" and "Cadabra", the twin witches and rulers of the Witchies. While Abra is a good soul, Cadabra is morally ambiguous and loves to pull pranks, sort of a Celestia & Discord deal here. Together, their magic might be even stronger than Magic's.
Ice Elves either also have no ruler or they listen to Princess Jewel.
"Scarlet", Princess of the Filly Butterflies. She can magic flowers out of nothing and she has pretty wings. So far the least impressive out of the specials.

>>1037654
Judging by a look at the Filly website's 3 big types, and for the sake of another point of view, using another language translation in case there's differences (After all, it'll be translated from German either way), I can find some interesting stuff about the specials:

Crystal seems to be from a faraway country too, and plays on the Cinderella effect by disappearing "before midnight". I imagine her as a nobody in the daily life, and maybe she has a double-life?

Sparkle is formulated as "sprinkling harmony down on everyone who's coming to Crystalia", so harmony appears to be a physical substance there, or at least a spell.

Magic is however only mentioned as "sailing from the kingdoms on the other side of this magical land/country", but it's a bit strange that the Fairy King barely bothers being in the kingdom he's the top chief of. Perhaps he's the offspring of a unicorn and a fairy, and that he's in Unicorn Land most of the time?

Okay, taking a look at Universal Trends [www.universaltrends.de]' Filly selection (Should be at the link's front page), which is also in German, they declare that "Two brand-new Filly themes starts off the magical Filly Year in 2014 at Universal Trends".

The only things that could be considered newsworthy, is that Filly Wedding is written as "Filly Winter Wedding" here, and that the Filly Butterfly brand appears to be scheduled for a February release. And the implications that there will be more than just those two brands later this year.

http://www.funtasiadaily.com/2014/01/drawfilly-5.html

ha ha time for ranting in the comments

Also, I just noticed there hasn't been a Cedric pic since Drawfilly #1. Poor Cedric.

>>1040813
I took at look at his two comments about 1 1/2 hours ago, and I was about to write a step-by-step response to where he was wrong (including my perception that Tales and G3 has its fans, that I think that FF would appeal more to fans of girly shows in general than those who are only fans of FiM, and that not everything has to follow FiM's recipe), but I couldn't get over that he accused the site of using fake Blogger accounts, so he'd very likely disregard anything I'd have to say anyway.

I think Time Lord will like it when she see the Drawfilly.

Good luck going in. You'll be remembered as a brave soul who went the whole nine yards for his companions I can't imagine there'll be that much to discover apart from a few stores and minigames, but if you find anything interesting, that'd be great.

My system for finding new info, is to find new companies associated with an already-known Filly thing, and then look up the company on Google. I haven't found many such sources in the past week or so (in part due to the /oat/ thread lasting four days), so it could take some time before I find really good information again.

>>1040876
Yep, mostly a bunch of minigames. The translation is kinda weird on them.

Well, you did tell me to draw him like I wanted. Now I've drawn him as a sort of half-naked wrestler Pan knock-off. I expect you to take full responsibility.

>>1041723
Okay, I take responsibility. I didn't really expect something that looks like it was in Dragonball Z, with wings and shoulder plates taken from a Transformer, but at least you did give it a good shot.

>>1041110
So the boat has a magical power?

>Very Filly xxx
Something sounds very wrong with what I assume to be another user's Filly name. Or maybe "xxx" is just a placeholder or name-hiding like they have in anime? Or perhaps booze? When things can get strange, I can just as well assume it's something less strange.

And the toys in the playroom doesn't lend much faith to the Fillys' matureness.

>>1042859
Maybe they are referring to Magic with gender neutral pronouns. Like "it". "It" is using "it's" magical power. Magic in the german version of that site has gender neutral pronouns too, if you're interested.

>>1043332
Hmm... that does make sense. I know that "it" would be used for most animals (I forgot that the fillies were technically animals), and in cases where gender is not important.

>>1040876
I am VERY chuffed to have made it to the top of the DrawFilly! Feel a little bad for knocking DexHaiken's pic down (I really like that one) but that kind of makes it even more flattering! Shame that the comment sections attracted a "stop having fun" person but ah well. I'm still proud!

>>1041723
So different from mine! I wonder if we'll be told much about him in the first ep...

>>1041110
Heehee, subtly advertising the castle playset there!

Last edited at Mon, Jan 20th, 2014 16:24

Regarding something vaguely news: Regarding FillyRT [twitter.com], the last tweet of any kind I can see there was 12th of January. Is the bot broken after a Twitter interface change, or has there really been no tweets about Filly for ten days (last retweet was the 11th)?

I know that at least one of Suhosin's Filly tweets (>>1025125) aren't on RT, but if the bot isn't actually broken, that'd be a very bad sign.

>>1046824
>I wonder if we'll be told much about him in the first ep...
I think they'll merely explain his basic motives early on, and maybe save his backstory for a flashback or a focus episode. That's at least what such shows tend to do (Cedric the Wizard in Sofia the First, and practically every early villain in Naruto, from what I remember).

>Heehee, subtly advertising the castle playset there!
Castle playsets are everywhere these days. FiM has several high-profile sets, enough so to have the Canterlot Wedding and Magical Mystery Cure promotions revolve around them. Maybe Filly Funtasia will have episodes revolving around major playsets too?

>>1046824
Meh, I'll probably draw a proper horse version of him one day.

>>1049153
Well, more art and interpretations can only be a good thing.

Since I'm testing the up-arrow quick reply for the first time in my Ponychan career after 2 years 2 months, as I've read that it's a good problem fix (I couldn't see your newest post inside the thread, only on the board front page), this may be an overly filler-y post, and I'm aware of that.

>>1040813
Compilation for great justice. Bronies complaining about shows being too girly will always feel very strange to me.

>>1054674
I'll give a good thumb up to that (and a save), especially considering the wide range of sources there.

Looks like many bronies don't want to go to the girly-gala-guck yet.

>>1054740
>>1054674
Phah.

>>1054743
Wheeeeee. is it sound effect time or something like that?

>>1054806
Clop.

>>1054807
Okay, I admit to being less skilled in English onomatopoetica than I should, so what does "phah" mean?

>>1054895
It's like this.

Only doing a worse job of suppressing it.

>>1054917
Ooh, now I understand. I thought semi-suppressed laughter was more "Phwee-hee-hee". And the internet couldn't provide an answer either, and in fact seemed to indicate it as a kind of annoyance.

So now that it's solved: Are you (or anypony else) tough enough to go to the girly-gala-guck? Or something? It's a Filly news drought right now.

Last edited at Thu, Jan 23rd, 2014 12:43

>>1054934
Dude, I'm the guy who spent hours trawling through girly frilly frou-frou stuff to name most of the minor ponies from the trailer. I think I'm effeminate tough enough.

>>1054939
On the topic of that, did you ever finish looking through the trailer for fillies to name? It'd be great if it got finished, and you'd be almost guaranteed coverage on Funtasia Daily and the next /oat/ thread.

I spent a large chunk of November and December crawling through the internet for new Filly information and sending it to Soth, to the point where I was at a specific point involved with six of the ten articles that was then on 'Daily's front page.

>>1054996
I was pretty thorough. I don't think there were any more to name. I could try and have a look tomorrow, if you want.

>>1055001
It can't hurt taking a look at what little is remaining of the background fillies. I think there's perhaps only one or two group shots left to cover.

>>1055022
Okay. Understood.

>>1054674
I personally think they should go all out in their traditional girliness. Make it their strength. Make the villains try to best the fillies in ballroom dancing or something. An episode entirely about Princess Sparkle throwing a huge and crazy tea party (since it was mentioned she likes parties). I'd like something like that. My favourite FiM episodes are where they do stuff like that. Like that fantastic episode in season one where Rarity sews dresses for everyone.

If we're on the topic of background fillies, does anyone else like the Witchies' designs as much as I do? They also have by far the most interesting descriptions. Is anyone interested in me translating them?

My personal favourite is Morgan, the "Charmer of Hearts", who is more like a stage magician, whose speciality is fireworks and who is apparently good with kids. He is a family father, has a pink cape with hearts on it and fabulous hair. What a charming fellow.
The whole show could be about the Witchies and I would be very content with that.

>>1057680
>best fillies
>not elves

for laef pls

But please, translate a few.

>>1057683
Here's one family I especially like. I'm not translating literally, I'm summing up, and I'm being sort of loose with information, guessing some stuff that is implied.

The Water Witchies are one of the most mysterious and shy families of Zimsala.

Tarot is a loving single mom with three daughters who makes her living by telling fortunes and divination. She is also in possession of some rather old magic books that have spells most Fillies today don't know about.

Her three daughters, Vicky, Aqua and Hexie range from the affable to the troublesome.
Responsible sister Vicky tries to follow in the steps of her mom and studies Astrology, though she sucks at it and her predictions are often wrong in hilarious ways.

The bubbly Aqua is a (most likely self-appointed) "protector of frogs" who owns a pet frog. A hopeless romantic, she tries to get her personal prince by kissing every frog she sees. Her wish hasn't come to fruition yet.

Hexie is a troublesome teen with the ability to make it rain - she loves to use it to prank others, especially fellow Witchy Sabrina.

>>1057732
>responsible
>bubbly
>troublesome
Holy shit, it's the Powerpuff Girls!

>>1057662
I'm fond of girly shows too (Strawberry Shortcake BBA, for one), but going girly in a traditional way has doomed such shows in the public eye before. I also don't think Will would be a good match with girliness unless they're turning him somewhat feminine (like Spike) or the token guy who's friend with the girls (Terence from Disney Fairies). But a Princess Sparkle tea party gone crazy sounds tempting to me.

My favourite FiM episodes tend to involve comedy, silliness, and those who has had great performances in the Nordic dubs. The Show Stoppers has traditionally topped my list for those reasons.

>>1057680
>>1057683
I must say that I have a soft spot for the Fairies and Elves.

How good are you (Four Leaves) at German? I think I've recently gained an uncanny ability to read German with only a sparse need for Google Translate; at least I concluded on that when I read the Filly Butterfly announcement at a point where it was only in German, so I could translate too or together, though it goes into "loose translation" territory at times. The pic I have was an attempt at some Ice Unicorns in late October.

>>1057764
I AM german. Also they are already doing that with Will. "I got the bow", remember?

This here is the dreamy Heart Family who is well versed in all matters of love.

Rhea, Morgan's wise wife, is the reference person when it comes to love matters. She has the uncanny ability to communicate with others through her thoughts alone - and that even at a great distance.

I already talked about Morgan. The couple has two daughters, one who is already a young adult and a child.

Alice (who has a fantastic design, look at her) seems to prefer the company of her pet cat to that of other Fillies and writes a novel about Zimsala and its history.

Alice's beloved younger sister Xenia is a very young Witchy who has received her magical cape a few weeks ago, meaning she is still trying to experiment with her magic, leading to quite a few misadventures.

>>1057774
Ah, that explains your German skills. And I didn't have a good enough memory to remember the bow line, though now that I think of it, I think it went "Here's the bow", instead of "I got the bow" which I've only seen in a Will the Filly pic.

>>1057662
I'd rather they mixed it up a bit, but if they are "girly" I hope they at least dodge some clichés. It's hopeful that Bella's dad seems protective and ready to take action rather than being another absent/useless adult in a kids' show. FIM even implied that Twilight and Shining's parents just watched the wedding events with Chrysalis...

Still, pretty confident I'll be watching even if the plots are too girly for my liking!

>>1057680
>>1057732
>>1057774
The Witchies DO seem cool! I like how the families have matching capes. And their weird quirks. Frog kissing? Weirdo, haha...

>Xenia
Oh, she's in a Funtasia pic I started but haven't finished! It's another horse-anatomy one* but I'm having trouble choosing an art style for the colour... I'm hoping it'll look good, though. It's a panel from one of the comics.

* My horse anatomy only started coming out remotely right recently, so I'm pretty into it right now, heh.

>>1057764
My impression was that girliness doomed itself with a lack of variety. There's nothing wrong with liking lighter things, but my experience with "girly" content is that it tend to have less fantasy (even if it's in a fantasy setting), predictable plots, less inspiring main characters, and can avoid even mild adventure in favour of friend group drama, which I've never been a fan of. These things aren't absent from cartoons that aren't girl-specific, but they rarely have them all in the same ep, and certainly not every ep (unless it's a dull cartoon).

There's no reason that even light plots based around everyday scenarios shouldn't be fun and interesting (e.g. Chi's Sweet Home is adorable), but series aimed at girls have tended to consistently miss the mark for me. Maybe "girly" series do tend to mix it up more than I've seen, but early impressions matter, and I don't think it's done anyone any favours for that type of series to supposedly be gender-specific rather than having its own gender-neutral genre.

...All this talk of Funtasia made me want to get a second Filly toy but my local toy shops have at some point sold out! ...I wonder if they'll do a non-felt-covered set if the show takes off, I've always been much more of a plastic fan...

>>1057958
You got to look at it this way:
Let's say some new cartoons are being funded.
Being funded are 100 cartoons aimed at boys and 20 cartoons aimed at girls.
Out of these 100 boy cartoons are tons that are cliché'd, unfunny, with bad animation and bad writing. So there are about 20 good cartoons from those 100 boy cartoons. These are the ones that are usually hyped and watched by lots of people, or praised. Thanks to that, the people who fund the shows get the impression that boy shows are more popular.
Now, getting to the girl shows, we have only twenty available. Instead there being lots of cartoons where some WILL be inevitably good, having very little cartoons limits the general possibility of there being several good cartoons. Out of the twenty, lets say we have 15 that are cliché'd, unfunny etc. Five cartoons that are at least decent or good. You will remember twenty boy cartoons being good and five girl cartoons, and you start to associate girliness with cliché'd writing. Because lets say you watch some of the boy cartoons, but you'd rather dig some girl cartoons. So you take what is available. In your quest to new girl cartoons you watch all twenty of the girl cartoons, even the bad ones. It's not like you can pick the cartoons you really like out of many. You have to take the ones that are there, regardless of how good they are.

Now, let us talk what a good cartoon is all about. A good cartoon has good writing, it has love and thought put into it. Now regardless of your source material or your audience, with the right execution everything could be awesome. Using the example of the tea party, Princess Sparkle's tea party could be incredibly dull if not executed right. Shonen battles are usually long and drawn out and boring. But the tea party could also be fun, with lots of crazy and different guests and party games and colours and floating seats. The shonen battle could have interesting strategies or is just animated in an interesting way or it would get resolved in a comedic way. Another example of this is a recent anime called "Girls und Panzer". The premise is cute moe girls fighting against each other in tanks. Believe me or not, it's a fantastic show that uses actual battle strategy. The same show could have been just scantily clad girls doing weird fanservice poses on their tanks. Instead, the studio poured all their love into that show.

So basically, what I'm saying is that with the right execution, anything could be great. And doing traditionally girly, or just generally girly things with that thought in mind, it could be fantastic. Friend drama or avoiding adventure in a show where adventure is a premise is not good writing. The characters wearing fluffy frilly flower dresses is not related to that.

I apologize if I typed weird somewhere, it is rather late.

>>1058196
>more cartoons aimed at boys
>statistically better chance that they get good cartoons
Definitely agree that this is part of the problem. Also that certain genres (e.g. adventure) are very rarely aimed at girls.

>So basically, what I'm saying is that with the right execution, anything could be great.
I wasn't trying to dispute that.

Speaking of cartoon gripes, one thing that's bothered me ever since I was a kid is the obsession with humans/humanoids in stories. Even wild fantasy/sci-fi stories apparently need a human/oid protagonist! And when non-humanoid animals do star, it's nearly always in a pseudo-real-life world (i.e. Earth with talking animals), humans will be there, death is likely, and guilt-tripping elements will be throughout (e.g. pollution, hunters, death by car), so. Little-me couldn't just watch a fantasy epic starring non-humanoids like she wanted to: She had to either watch humanoids or be reminded that animals die and people control/kill animals. The defence that "that's life" carries little weight when none of the humanoid characters ever got killed by a car, developed cancer, etc.

Finally, I'm an adult and there will soon be not one but TWO current animated series starring non-humanoid horses in magical fantasy worlds without a human in sight! (If Funtasia does have humans then it's at least clear that the Fillies aren't pets.)

I'm chuffed.

Still nothing like that with the level of "travelling the land to fight evil" stuff that I've always been drawn to, but horses having tea parties is automatically a billion times better than badly written stories of humans travelling the land to fight evil.

Funtasia would have to be really, really, bad to stop me watching it. Also, I managed the first season of How To Train Your Dragon (which was surprisingly poor) for just the music, happy film memories, and Toothless' croons, and HTTYD S2 has been shockingly better in every way, so even if Funtasia's S1 is really dreadful, I'll probably still try S2.

>>1058438
Thankfully, the cartoon business has changed a lot since the early 90's (I presume that's when you grew up). MLP G1 had humans, Moomin was probably humanoid, MLP Tales was humanoid in all but design, and Wind in the Willows wasn't fantasy enough from what little I remember.

In fact, if "non-humanoid no-human fantasy story" is the only benchmark, even MLP G3 could count as an early pioneer. I also recall pseudo-examples like Zig & Sharko (no humans, but several mermaids in secondary roles and a Spongebob-like world) and several Lego-related shows of varying quality. And now we have FiM and Filly.

>Funtasia would have to be really, really, bad to stop me watching it.
I've got many pet peeves when TV and movies are involved, but as long as Funtasia doesn't rampantly go against its toy sources by portraying the youngest Fillys as infants on a regular basis, it simply can't fail for me.

>Also that certain genres (e.g. adventure) are very rarely aimed at girls.
I also don't see any premises based on martial arts or high-tech inventions aimed at girls either, which could have provided a fresh breath too.

>>1059596
>Thankfully, the cartoon business has changed a lot since the early 90's (I presume that's when you grew up).
Late 80s/early 90s. I miss the crazy sci-fi of the 80s but I know that many of them just weren't very well made. Also, they were forced into spelling out clear morals at one point, which made even some of the good ones gain a patronising edge.

>MLP G1 had humans, Moomin was probably humanoid, MLP Tales was humanoid in all but design, and Wind in the Willows wasn't fantasy enough from what little I remember.
Ha, I always think of the Moomin stories as books... Its animated series were comparatively forgettable to me. WitW has one bizarre fantasy moment in the book but that's often left out and its characters are bipedal anyway.

Speaking of books, Watership Down is a book I should have sought out sooner but was put off by the film. Despite having humans in the world it's very much a fantasy epic starring rabbits making it more of a "hidden fantasy world" setting (as seen in Harry Potter, Weirdstone of Brisingamen, etc) but without the normal "human discovers it" premise. This was, however, rather played down by the film, which went so far as to add in a female rabbit JUST for her to be killed in one of the early scenes. I'm still think that, to be fair, The Hobbit films should have added in a female dwarf to get eaten by a giant eagle before the end of first film, but I digress. My key point is that it seems to be that, especially in TV/film, stories aren't valued unless they're either starring human/oids or starring animals and teaching "real life is hard for animals D:" messages.

>In fact, if "non-humanoid no-human fantasy story" is the only benchmark, even MLP G3 could count as an early pioneer.
Indeed! I mean, Santa was shown as human but he never actually appeared. I didn't watch G3 until relatively recently though...

>I also recall pseudo-examples like Zig & Sharko
[Googles] See, they looks quite humanoid to me. Standing on two legs and using their forelimbs to manipulate objects, with added thumbs. I don't know why this is my criteria, but animals having to rely on non-hands really appeals to me. Scooping things up with hooves isn't so bad, but sticking to means that match their biology (e.g. picking things up with their mouths) appeals to me a lot more.

>several Lego-related shows of varying quality.
?

>as long as Funtasia doesn't rampantly go against its toy sources by portraying the youngest Fillys as infants on a regular basis
That's still something that a good S2 could fix! Sometimes shows go backwards (e.g. Ewoks S2 was far more kiddy) but in recent years I've found later series are often better,

>>Also that certain genres (e.g. adventure) are very rarely aimed at girls.
>I also don't see any premises based on martial arts or high-tech inventions aimed at girls either, which could have provided a fresh breath too.
Aye! Still, we have the learning-to-kick scene in the Funtasia trailer, maybe martial arts is a thing at the school, or at least as some of the Fillies' hobbies. That or it'll be more of a one-off gag, like Apple Bloom's karate interest, but ah well.

The posts are getting long enough for me to have a hard time keeping up with all the points raised, but I'll keep up as well as I can.

>>1059895
>?
I was thinking along the lines of Bionicle, Legends of Chima, and Hero Factory, which seem to have characters as some mix of humanoid and unnaturally-looking creatures, and especially Bionicle kept such stick to the "no humans" policy that they abandoned a cinema movie for it because all the scripts they got involved humans. They additionally had special magic-ish skills on occasions.

>That's still something that a good S2 could fix!
The closest thing I've seen to an "S2 fix" myself was Strawberry Shortcake BBA, which greatly toned down the stilted dialogue and had a continuous narrative spanning several weather seasons (But with that show, I would combine it with "S3 brilliance"). I'll keep it in mind, and if that system works for more shows, I could possibly check out Care Bears WtCAL S2 if it got one.

>I mean, Santa was shown as human but he never actually appeared. I didn't watch G3 until relatively recently though...
I started in December 2011 and spent a year and a half slowly going through it. They had Santa figurines in G3-Ponyville's toy store, if that is of any importance.

>My key point is that it seems to be that, especially in TV/film, stories aren't valued unless they're either starring human/oids or starring animals and teaching "real life is hard for animals D:" messages.
I realise now that I don't have much experience with the last category. There's possibly Bolt and Kung Fu Panda, but those would probably be counted as humanoid too (KFP had a full handful of characters standing on two limbs as the only humanoid things I can remember, though).

>Aye! Still, we have the learning-to-kick scene in the Funtasia trailer, maybe martial arts is a thing at the school, or at least as some of the Fillies' hobbies.
That would be awesome. Like Kickin' It, but with actual martial arts.

>>1059954
>The posts are getting long enough for me to have a hard time keeping up with all the points raised
Sorry, it's a fun topic and I don't often find other long term cartoon fans to chat to!

>I was thinking along the lines of Bionicle, Legends of Chima, and Hero Factory, which seem to have characters as some mix of humanoid and unnaturally-looking creatures
Really? Never caught them browsing channels and what I did see didn't encourage me to seek them out, but clearly I must look into them!
>Bionicle kept such stick to the "no humans" policy that they abandoned a cinema movie for it because all the scripts they got involved humans.
That's brilliant. It's nice when shows stick to their values.
>They additionally had special magic-ish skills on occasions.
Neat.

>>That's still something that a good S2 could fix!
>The closest thing I've seen to an "S2 fix" myself was Strawberry Shortcake BBA, which greatly toned down the stilted dialogue and had a continuous narrative spanning several weather seasons (But with that show, I would combine it with "S3 brilliance"). I'll keep it in mind, and if that system works for more shows, I could possibly check out Care Bears WtCAL S2 if it got one.
I like to think that it's because it's easier for shows to get feedback now (e.g. obvious fanart online), so if fans see potential then the makers are more likely to hear about it. In the case of HTTYD, I have no idea why the creators didn't invest more in film extras from the start (even the original merch was pretty poor), but at least they've pulled it together now.

>>teaching "real life is hard for animals D:" messages.
>I realise now that I don't have much experience with the last category.
The infamous Animals of Farthing Wood is one that stands out in my mind. They're forced out of their home by habitat destruction and, on their way to their new home, suffer many losses, e.g. hedgehogs on the road. Some gore was included, e.g. when the baby mice were killed by the shrike, AKA butcher bird, the thorn bush with impaled baby mice on it is shown. Yes, that's life, but it's not escapism and it gave me fairly mixed feelings about the show.

Other "life in the human world is hard for non-humans" stories include Bambi, 101 Dalmatians, Aristocats, and Lady and the Tramp. Generally the Disney ones have less guilt tripping though, so these are all films I like. Bolt counts, and Homeward Bound. Black Beauty. Ginga: Nagareboshi Gin and its sequel for one that practically forgot humans as it went on, haha... Legend of the Guardians. The Silverwing book series. There are quite a few, and generally I DO like them (animal fan, haha), but humans are nearly always included in the key problem/s and it gets a little repetitive.

Lion King may be humans-don't-exist tier. It's ambiguous.

>>1060126
>Sorry, it's a fun topic and I don't often find other long term cartoon fans to chat to!
I think I know that feel too. Though I like a wide range of cartoons, it's usually cartoons that never really built up an internet presence, such as Black Dynamite, Fish Hooks, and at least three Disney Junior shows, in addition to Shortcake, Funtasia and various MLP's; so I've had a hard time finding posters to discuss such things with on /oat/ and /int/. Positively Pinkie was the closest I got in some of these cases, but even he consider me a cartoon-loving guy for a reason.

>Really? Never caught them browsing channels and what I did see didn't encourage me to seek them out, but clearly I must look into them!
Bionicle was primarily a DVD thing some years ago (which I completely failed to find out even existed in media form), but at least Chima began airing on the Nordic Nickelodeons some months ago. I didn't really like the modern-CN-esque type of action Chima and Hero seemed to use, but since I've as such watched very little of them, I may be wrong on their overall quality level.

>In the case of HTTYD, I have no idea why the creators didn't invest more in film extras from the start
I think that nopony could predict how popular the HTTYD movie would get, including Dreamworks. They probably expected a typical Dreamworks situation where it perfoms great in the cinemas and home releases and not much else, and thus only made basic merch. Instead, action-loving children and Pixar-favourising film feinschmeckers (Is that a legal loanword in English? It is so up here, at least.) praised it to the skies and beyond, so the movie remained popular with people after they were finished watching the movie.

>Generally the Disney ones have less guilt tripping though, so these are all films I like.
I watched Aristocats a lot when I was young, and Bolt gets much less love from people than I think it deserves. So that's for certain.

>>1060273
>>Sorry, it's a fun topic and I don't often find other long term cartoon fans to chat to!
>I think I know that feel too. Though I like a wide range of cartoons, it's usually cartoons that never really built up an internet presence
Many of the cartoons I like are popular, but whether I can find a good place to discuss them is another thing. The casual community and no-password needed style of image boards appeals to me but, unless I'm missing something, most cartoons don't have a board. DeviantArt's an option but not all artists are chatty (though some are, and that's awesome).

>I didn't really like the modern-CN-esque type of action Chima and Hero seemed to use, but since I've as such watched very little of them, I may be wrong on their overall quality level.
We can compare notes when I've seen some? It's fun to chat about even if we have different views!

>>In the case of HTTYD, I have no idea why the creators didn't invest more in film extras from the start
>I think that nopony could predict how popular the HTTYD movie would get, including Dreamworks.
"Kid bonds with and eventually rides a dragon as a story of self-discover and saving the day in an awesome way" is a film I've been waiting for ever since I was a little kid. Mostly I imagined the human as female but, in terms of the atmosphere and themes, HTTYD was pretty much exactly the type of thing I wanted and I loved it all over! I hear it's not much like the book it's based on but I do have that to read... Looking forward to it! The Pern stories were always too "females are so dark and edgy" for me.

Dragons are popular and Vikings are culty, they should have seen the love coming! Heehee... I'm trying not to get too hyped for the new film but it's so hard and I've only seen one trailer and some posters!

>feinschmeckers
Not a word I tend to use!

>>Generally the Disney ones have less guilt tripping though, so these are all films I like.
>I watched Aristocats a lot when I was young, and Bolt gets much less love from people than I think it deserves. So that's for certain.
Aye, Bolt was good! Besides, "pet misses owner" and "owner misses pet" are super effective against my feels, so it was easy for me to get invested.

>>1063255
>but, unless I'm missing something, most cartoons don't have a board.
I really believe that more cartoons should adopt the "dedicated imageboard" system that Ponychan have. A good Dynamitechan would have won me over years ago, and I can also imagine a Regularchan and a Danvillechan.

>I hear it's not much like the book it's based on but I do have that to read... Looking forward to it!
I read the first chapter of the book, and I can tell that it's completely different from the movie. Hiccup is different, the village's dragon system is unrecognisable, everyone's motivations are different, even the artwork is different.

>It's fun to chat about even if we have different views!
Maybe I should spend a while today checking out at least Chima in more detail myself? I think one of my little brothers bought DVD's of Chima and Hero last year, at least he does have a Hero DVD.

>Heehee... I'm trying not to get too hyped for the new film but it's so hard and I've only seen one trailer and some posters!
I began to regard Dreamworks sequels with hostility after watching Shrek Forever After and Madagascar 2 some years ago, so I admit to not having high hopes for HTTYD2. And so I haven't watched its trailer, so I can't really tell if I think this is going to be good or not.

>Besides, "pet misses owner" and "owner misses pet" are super effective against my feels, so it was easy for me to get invested.
I loved Bolt for completely different reasons. The soundtrack, the chemistry between the three main characters, the insight in the dubious American telly business, the colossal action sequences, various comedic things happening, and a tiny bit of drama that actually worked for me.

We haven't given up on Filly in this thread (At least I don't think we have), so here's some small-scale stuff I dug up from my more regular sources. Now I know what the "fan club" mentioned in >>1025125 and >>1025169 was partially about, as a message on the Filly site (when set to German) mentioned gift cards, vouchers and exclusive toy(s). Also, much like early December's Asia TV Forum, BRB is present at NATPE in Miami, presumably the one in Florida, this week, planning to show its selection of shows.

>>1063255
>>1064576
And now that I've watched a full episode of Legends of Chima, I can tell that the description I gave in >>1059954 was much more accurate than I ever thought it would be; though many of its characters were a tiny bit more humanoid than I remembered (but only a tiny bit). It got fantasy elements, and the "magic-ish" stuff really was magic-ish, as its unnatural elements had a proper explanation behind them (The "chi", and a flower that darkens the thoughts of those who breath its pollination). It basically reminded me a lot of what I know about Thundercats, but better.

>>1064811
I've been monitoring a few screening websites, but there's no Funtasia screener from NATPE yet. I'd really like a new promo.

also why are pet shop daily's episode links so poorly updated, I was going to catch up on LPS s2

>>1067316
>I'd really like a new promo.
So would I. But do we actually even know whether there's any new material they're bringing to the telly conventions? I don't think they've mentioned such, apart from "screening" their shows. Who knows?

Do you have access to Pirate Bay? If that doesn't work, you could check if any pony download sites also carries LPS '12 (I'm pretty sure Yayponies doesn't, but are there other such sites?).

>>1067316
I notice that the extra 46 seconds of the extended trailer is by itself on http://www.worldscreen.com/ (I'd link but the url gets long and the search is easy) under the title of NATPE Miami 2014 - Jan 27th, 2014 through Jan 29th, 2014, so... Could that have been it? Bit of a disappointment if so...

Still, if so, it could be taken 2 ways:
(1) BRB haven't realised that this has plenty of potential and so they haven't prioritised it.
(2) BRB do realise it has potential and so they don't want to give out too much before it's ready.

Shame BRB International don't update the news section of their site more.

>>1064576
>I really believe that more cartoons should adopt the "dedicated imageboard" system that Ponychan have.
Maybe there should be a general cartoonchan? Would be nice. Ah well, maybe they'll catch on later...

>I read the first chapter of the book, and I can tell that it's completely different from the movie. Hiccup is different, the village's dragon system is unrecognisable, everyone's motivations are different, even the artwork is different.
I'm looking forward to it!

>I began to regard Dreamworks sequels with hostility after watching Shrek Forever After and Madagascar 2 some years ago, so I admit to not having high hopes for HTTYD2. And so I haven't watched its trailer, so I can't really tell if I think this is going to be good or not.
I liked Shrek 4, it was 3 I considered the misfire... Have yet to bother with Madagascar 2.

>Thundercats, but better.
>better than best cartoon
Whoa, whoa, let's not get ahead of ourselves!

I'm still going to check these out when I have time. Having a bit of a busy week.

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>>1070439
I can't find that on Worldscreen to be honest, but I remember that those 46 seconds were first found on their sub-site Worldscreenings in late November last year. Is is that one you're talking about?

>Still, if so, it could be taken 2 ways:
It could go either way. I believe they have Funtasia as a top priority, but I doubt they expect it to become anywhere near a grand hit at par with the most popular US cartoons of today.

>better than best cartoon
>Whoa, whoa, let's not get ahead of ourselves!
That was something I didn't expect to hear from you, actually. I assume it's the 80's Thundercats you're loving? Were there by the way any differences between that and the CN reboot a few years ago?

>I'm looking forward to it!
If you've got a good library system in the UK, you could always borrow it for some weeks.

>>1070453
...Now I can't find it! Weird. Does look like the same one posted a while back on Funtasia Daily though, so nevermind.

>Filly Funtasia to Debut at MIP Junior & MIPCOM - WorldScreen.com
>www.worldscreen.com/articles/display/41070
>18 Sep 2013 - MADRID: Next month in Cannes Dracco and BRB Internacional are slated to premiere two full-length episodes of Filly Funtasia, a new ...
>>(Google search results, premier account needed to view the whole article)
I take it that reviews don't normally come out of events like that? Starting to appreciate how nice it is to have such a well-connected fandom for MLP...

>I believe they have Funtasia as a top priority
Why do you think that? I'm not saying you're wrong, but Invizimals is the one at the start of their reel, and listed first in a few articles about their upcoming projects... Might be the article writers' biases, of course.

>I assume it's the 80's Thundercats you're loving?
Aye! I think its early moments pretty much defined most of what I now like in cartoons.

>Were there by the way any differences between that and the CN reboot a few years ago?
Lots. They kind of stripped a lot of what made the original special and put it into a cliché "on a quest" formula... There were hints that it was set in the future of the original cartoon, but still. In the original, it was about the team getting settled on a new world, and Lion-O was the young Lord of the Thundercats whose body had grown to be adult whilst he was unconscious (for space travel), and so one of the core themes was him learning to be the adult he already was. In the reboot, he's kind of a whiny kid with brother issues... It wasn't terrible, just a rather generic "get a team: go on quest" setting, plus the third and fourth stories had morals that quite contradicted each other ("know when to retreat" and "never retreat, even when the odds are dire"). I didn't bother keeping up to date after that and, while I'll probably watch the rest at some point, I'm not expecting much other than maybe some cool locations.

I knew it wasn't going to be my Thundercats, but I wish they hadn't let it get generic. The original actually had a lot of unique elements to go with its classic 80s cheese and clichés.

>>I'm looking forward to it!
>If you've got a good library system in the UK, you could always borrow it for some weeks.
I do actually have the book as of Christmas, I just want to finish reading my current book first, which is taking a while (I think Charles Dickens' humour misses its mark for me).

>>1070652
>I take it that reviews don't normally come out of events like that?
Had it been a triple-A video game blockbuster, then it'd be probable. For a semi-indie European-conceived cartoon that virtually nopony had heard of at the time the September article was written, it wouldn't be given much focus by reviewers.

>Why do you think that?
As even though Invizimals was much closer to release (Having debuted two pilot specials in a few countries already) and are more likely to profit, they still take care to mention Funtasia as an upcoming show even in articles where it isn't in the focus. I think that would make it roughly considered on level with Inviz'.

>[the entire Thundercats paragraph]
Okay, it's obvious that you know a whole lot more about Thundercats than I'll ever manage to do. Maybe I'm even ineligible to compare Chima to it?

>I do actually have the book as of Christmas, I just want to finish reading my current book first, which is taking a while
I tend to have a very hard time reading through text-only books. I got one proper novel for X-mas and haven't even reached the page-25 mark in it yet. I have more of a tradition of abandoning such books: I bought Transformers Exodus in mid-2012, got about one-third through it, and then proceeded to treat it as a bedroom decoration for eternity.

http://blip.tv/paradiseandfaries/master-commentaries-filly-funtasia-extended-trailer-and-bonus-content-6721715

This is the unfunniest thing I've ever seen. Fuck this guy.

>>1075531
I laughed at exactly two jokes in the whole video (The one where Madeleine demands people to kneel before her, and the "Collect them all!" yells). The Disney song I can't remember where it came from, was a nice touch too. But pretty much all of his jokes in the trailer riff fell about as flat to me as a Danish grass plain:

>"A big strange meanie broke into school"
>"With yellow eyes!"
>A brony!

Though this looked more to me like a one-toy review than anything meant to really involve the trailer, I have mixed but reluctant feelings from it.

>>1075531
>>1075535
>"this is bad"
>all go watch it
...Okay, got bored during the trailer heckling, stopped after that. He seems a bit too intent on mentioning Bronies. It's like he's name-dropping us.

>>1070728
(Trying to space out my replies so that more Filly stuff can be worked in. Also, been busy and trying not to spend so much time staring at an image board...)

>>Why do you think that?
>As even though Invizimals was much closer to release (Having debuted two pilot specials in a few countries already) and are more likely to profit, they still take care to mention Funtasia as an upcoming show even in articles where it isn't in the focus. I think that would make it roughly considered on level with Inviz'.
Ah, fair. I hope you're right, it does

>>[the entire Thundercats paragraph]
>Okay, it's obvious that you know a whole lot more about Thundercats than I'll ever manage to do. Maybe I'm even ineligible to compare Chima to it?
You could be right, I have got a Lion-O vibe from the design of "Laval"... Still, I will get around to Chima sometime. In between staying on top of other series I watch and doing things other than watching cartoons, it can take me a while to try new stuff.

>>I do actually have the book as of Christmas, I just want to finish reading my current book first, which is taking a while
>I tend to have a very hard time reading through text-only books. I got one proper novel for X-mas and haven't even reached the page-25 mark in it yet. I have more of a tradition of abandoning such books: I bought Transformers Exodus in mid-2012, got about one-third through it, and then proceeded to treat it as a bedroom decoration for eternity.
Been there, especially in recent years, but I still intend to finish the 3 books I've started... All quite long, wordy, ones though (philosophy, a quartet, and Great Expectations). Maybe I'll take a graphic novel break in my reading, since those are starting to stack up too... So much to read!

>>1075531
>>1075535
That guy's videos are one of two things I've decided I won't post about. Just look at this, page after page of posting about his own videos just about everywhere: http://www.reddit.com/user/MadhogThyMaster

Oh, and here's the only NATPE pic I managed to find, didn't think it notable enough for the Roundup though.

>>1075924
>that pic
>that poster
>this cartoon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytMxwPE1KFE
HIPPOCAMPUS!

>>1075959
Okay, reading into it, it seems too girly (+too much super-special human) for me. Stars a girl as a fairy, some other fairies, a faun-thing, and Onchao, the white "unicorn" (with wings), who is actually male. If anyone tries it, let me know how it is! Feel a little betrayed by the trailer that other sources imply the equines who aren't Onchao don't play a large part.

>Wish they made toys of Wasser!

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>>1075877
>He seems a bit too intent on mentioning Bronies. It's like he's name-dropping us.
He had a rather high percentage of brony jokes, but even within the trailer riff, he had some other vaguely-jokes, like "Hey, Pony Edward."

>>1075924
It took me a long while before I figured out what had changed in BRB's description (in the Roundup). Magic resulting in "unexpected results" sounds a bit like Fairly Odd Parents, especially if there'll be episodes revolving around fixing spells gone wrong.

>>1075959
I have some experience with Mia And Me, but I had no idea how to talk about it due to all the vital things in the show for which I didn't know their English names, due to only having watched the Norwegian dub. The very important trumpet that dissolves the bad woman's henchmen: Based on the "trompetuss" that I'm familiar with, would it be a trumpetore, bassooneer, trumpateer, anything close to that? All this is why I have almost never talked about Mia And Me on Ponychan.

The first time I saw the show, which was halfway through an action-filled episode, my reactions can be summarised with this [youtu.be]. But as I watched more episodes, the human subplot got more frustrating, and the many repeating elements such as the trumpateer(?), saving the unicorns and the water that shrinks the henchmen, got tiresome, and I threw in the towel with somewhere between 6 and 10 episodes watched.

>>1075987
>>1076039
Ah, so that's how things are. Okay, so the main story goes as following: A girl student goes to an exclusive school in Italy or England, and receives enemies (bullies) right off the bat. She comes across a quite magical book, and gets sent to Zentopia, as a fairy. She comes across a conflict between the good fairies and an evil witch-thing, involving land domination and something involving the unicorns. The fight takes some turns throughout the show and involves strategic missions to save the day. In almost every episode, she returns back to the human world when she's been in Zentopia for too long, something that is played on occasionally.

I'm not sure what to think of the show's qualities or problems, really. I simply can't come up with any.

http://derpibooru.org/539664
Derpibooru has been enlightened

>>1076201
So her vision hasn't yet made a very noticable dent.

I'm surprised the picture has a mixed reception at 4-4, as Derpibooru was very negative to Filly last time I checked, though it was in early November.

Today's not-news news:

FillyRT has been fixed after three weeks of inactivity, which makes it a viable strategy for small-scale news again. I had given up on it after two of those three weeks, but it's back in my browser Favourites section now. The bot creator mentions that Twitter now "require SSL by default", which broke it.

And there's finally one new Filly pic on DA. The keyword here being 'one'.

(I was planning to write something about BRBPlay too as I speculate it'll be an online venue for watching Funtasia, but I couldn't even figure out if their Premium service was free or not, and there didn't appear to any Filly there so far.)

>>1084099
For the sake of journalism, I decided to investigate BRBPlay Premium a bit.

They use a service called adnstream, http://www.adnstream.com/

Prices for BRBPlay Premium are 2.39 €/1 month, 3.99 €/3 months, 6.99 €/6 months.

Adnstream seems like it's only available in Spanish, but it looks like BRB have episodes of their series in English there. Most (or all?) of their series seem to be there, but some of the free episodes give me the message in pic related which is somewhat concerning.

I should probably go to bed soon.

>>1085771
>pic
>Ups, we're sorry, this video can only be streamed in some parts of the world.
That alone removes a lot of the service's viability in my eyes, as I originally thought that BRB had worldwide rights to their own shows.

They also appeared to lack their other new show Invizimals there (and almost all of their movies for that sake), but I'm not sure if the selection I looked through really was Premium or merely a test selection.

€7 for six months would be pretty feasible for me if it actually gets Funtasia as part of the worldwide release, presuming that it actually can be streamed around the world.

I have a strict bedtime system to prevent confusion and tiredness when I'm on Ponychan. 22:00 is the nominal bedtime, 23:00 is very unusual for me to post later than, and 01:00 is full stop for the internet regardless of how long I'll actually be awake. But let's hope you got some good sleep nonetheless.

So, I found a portfolio by a 3D modeler which has a bunch of screenshots of Funtasia 3D models on a website for freelancers. (props, not character models) Do you think I can post that stuff on my website or is it supposed to be kinda secret? I'm pretty sure BRB keep tabs on my website and I don't want to get the modeler in trouble.

>>1117073
Just post them here first, I'm pretty sure they are not monitoring ponychan 24/7 and you can delete them if trouble arises.
Also, some art.

>>1118710
Looks neat!

I've been taking a break from Ponychan for a few days (I blame the Cheese Sandwich episode and posters' families), with a hard break yesterday, so I'm slow to the punchline yet again.

>>1117073
>>1121138
So they've got food: nuts, sugar, eggs and guacamole(?). Shows a varied diet, and if eggs are vegetarian, then it looks pretty much like FiM's diet. Other than that, brooms, books, scrolls, and a key. Especially the key looks important, but in which way?

How has EqD handled leaks of this level before? So that we have something to compare to?

>>1118710
Saved, though I took the liberty to split up the four parts so I could use them as expression pics.

>>1121312
I will fix and colour them too when I find some time, so you'll have more versions soon.

They key is a soft violet and doesn't seem too small, so it'll probably open a door, but not one where you'd need a rougher one, like prison or somewhere outside. At the same time, it doesn't seem to be a very complicated key. Perhaps to a forbidden room they otherwise can't access? Or some kind of big magical box. I'm asking myself more how they'll open a door with a key with those hooves.

Anyone wanna speculate why the bat wears a hero badge necklace?

Also, do you think they'll have Ced as the guy who doesn't want to be a prince or will they go against the descriptions and have him be a spoiled princeling?

>>1121348
>I will fix and colour them too when I find some time, so you'll have more versions soon.
Sounds good. I was for some minutes pondering if I should colour them myself, but I decided against it.

The key looks like it could be practically anything. The castle's front doors, a diary, a "the keys to the city" kind of key, or a toy/treasure chest. And now I'm wondering how they'll pick up things at all, as neither their hooves or teeths seems fit for the job. Maybe every Filly has levitating powers like those that Will had?

>Anyone wanna speculate why the bat wears a hero badge necklace?
I doubt it's a hero badge, and if it is, that'd be for some old stuff he did. My guess is more at a magic amulet that has something to do with the mirror Wizard, possibly to exert the Wizard's old magical powers.

>Also, do you think they'll have Ced as the guy who doesn't want to be a prince or will they go against the descriptions and have him be a spoiled princeling?
He'll probably be enjoying the royal privileges, but they have no reason to play him as a token Prince Uncharming as was done with Blueblood. If anything, he'll want some breaks from the stiff royal life, but I don't think he'll want to abandon it.

>>1121312
I checked, and they were a lot more willing to post leaks early on. (I'm pretty sure this thing: http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/11/blog-post.html was the Smile Smile Smile leak)

I actually just came to think of this post: http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/02/26-episodes-in-season-4-confirmed.html
The original source for that was actually someone's portfolio which makes the situation kinda similar. Looks like they eventually removed the source though so now there's no explanation at all for how they knew the episode count.

>>1123161
Okay, then we have something to compare to, but I'm not sure what the best course of action would be.

The easiest answer is that since EqD has done it, so can you; but it's far from the only possible answer.

>>1121379
>I doubt it's a hero badge, and if it is, that'd be for some old stuff he did. My guess is more at a magic amulet that has something to do with the mirror Wizard, possibly to exert the Wizard's old magical powers.
That sounds interesting, since the Wizard seems to be unable to move, maybe he transfers magic to his sidekick so he'll use it at certain points? If so, that would be a really interesting dependence system. Maybe he'll possess him too.

>>1124126
I imagined it as working pretty much like a FiM unicorn horn. The Wizard concentrates, and magic effects shoots out of the amulet.

But the
>since the Wizard seems to be unable to move, maybe he transfers magic to his sidekick so he'll use it at certain points? If so, that would be a really interesting dependence system
idea sounds cool. I doubt more that there will be possesions, except possibly an episode or two where the Wizard tries out new methods to take over the world.

>>1124162
If the villains are what I think they are, then I reeeally dig them. We have this powerful prideful guy who got cursed into that mirror and lost most of his power through that, and who probably can't move as well. He is entirely dependant on a bumbling bat, who is also probably the only person he can communicate with on a daily basis. It's such a situation ripe for comedy, I can't wait. So they'll going to have to steal magic to break his curse or bring back his powers. They could even throw some tension in there for the magic stealing to be relevant to keeping him alive. Anyways, Battiwigs is either insanely loyal or he was promised something in return for helping out, because him and the Wizard seem to have a rocky relationship with verbal abuse involved, and I can't imagine he would help him out just because he's bored.
Also, do you think Cupcakes will be the first episode or will it have a different introduction?

I've been noticing a thing about us Funtasians (I assume that's still the fandom name) recently, which is that throughout four months of fandom-y stuff going on, there have been no Filly OC's on record, at the very least I have never seen a single one of them. Should somepony perhaps set a breakthrough precedent, or is it wildly lucky and preferrable that there aren't any?

>>1124527
>Also, do you think Cupcakes will be the first episode or will it have a different introduction?
It's got to be the first one. We did see a zoom-in on the castle in the first trailer, just like the zoom from far out in the second. I also saw an article [newtoybrands.co.uk] at NewToyBrands three days ago that mentions Rose arriving for her first day at the Academy, which seems pretty fitting with the second trailer, though I didn't include it in my most recent news report to Soth because it paled in comparison to the 'Q4 release' article.

I find myself agreeing with your ideas for Battiwigs and the Wizard, but my current thoughts of Battiwigs' motivations is that he may not be able to take a lot of jobs or do a lot of stuff (assuming that bats aren't highly respected by the Fillys), so that he'll do whatever work offers he can get, or that the Wizard has convinced Battiwigs that his plan is meant for good (for example the magic stealing allegedly being to create harmony), akin to what Megatron did to other Transformers throughout most of TF Prime. I don't really find either of my theories likely unless Black Dragon/Screen 21/whoever else the show producers are, wants to go a bit dark with the show, but with an audience officially maxing out at age 12, who knows?

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>>1124853
Here, I have created an OC in five minutes. Her name is Milky Swirl, she's a Space Filly. She likes jazz music and superheroes. Here you go.

>>1125151
And so, the first one paved the way for her successors, ready to write history to be read for years to come...

>>1123936
Turns out the modeler in question doesn't work for BRB anymore. I'll probably end up posting it since we're in such a content drought. (especially official content which seems particularly rare)

There was an /mlp/ thread two days ago though where a bit of OC was created.

>>1126431
I saw through a Google search yesterday that there had been a thread there the day before, but it had 404'd by that point. I don't really look through 4chan without a very good reason to do so, and the Filly thread there a month and a half after the FFG had collapsed took me by surprise.

Were there any highlights in it, presumably in the form of images?

>>1126468
There was a re-edit of this thing, and the gif I posted. Also...
https://boards.4chan.org/mlp/res/16473234

>>1147381
>dat link
This is going to get strange once it picks up after the few minutes of site downtime. I hope I remember to check the thread often before it 404's.

My Google search for new Filly stuff today proved for nought, except that there's a German Wikipedia page for the Filly franchise. Some of the sub-variants there were unexpected to see, including Pink Mermaid, Unicorn Silver, and Ice Witchy. They don't appear to have their own sites, though.

>>1147482
Those variants seem to be special editions, if I'm reading it correctly.

I decided to make that post, by the way.
http://www.funtasiadaily.com/2014/02/filly-funtasia-3d-props.html

Okay, so with this artpiece, we see Rose, Will and Lynn at a centre position, Cedric and Bella standing together and looking from the sideline, Princess Sparkle standing at a ceremonial balcony, and Battiwigs looking from above in a diagonal angle.

I can devise several options from this:
1) It's a late-in-the-season scene where the three Fillys are praised for something that we know absolutely nothing about.
2) It's a celebration for driving the premiere "monster" away. This is either after the truth is discovered, or a mid-episode scene where the three are believed to have saved the day already.
3) It's a party to celebrate the new students at the Academy. Sort of like the end to Police Academy I, but with no real training and probably (but not guaranteedly) without having to prove their skills in action. And probably without thanking the King of Norway too.
4) It's an off-road run, like a marathon or the Running of the Leaves. In this case, the colourful stripes ahead of the three are a start and/or finish line band.

I'd be mightily surprised if this is part of the first episode (or the pilot arc), even with option 3 sounding like it has a good chance inside my head.

Edit: >>1148000
I spotted the article about 45 minutes ago, so I took the cues to this post from it.

Also, as another detail I forgot to add to this post: Even though Cedric and Bella stand right next to each other, it would seem a bit early if anypony wants to use the shipping arrows on them, though bronies have used them for less than this. I am after all very conservative when it comes to shipping.

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And if anypony are still here, I also took a look at the Filly mirror site [www.myfilly.com] I saw a link to on the 'Daily.

There are some new front page banners there, both to new toy lines and the "Fun" category games (not much more than that), which makes me wonder if they're all-new site additions from right before or even in the middle of the mainsite downtime, or if they're old stuff that the mirror creation process(?) picked up on. The site music is also different.

But whatever the answer, I think this is some good mirror crafting, to the point where I've been found myself wondering if it's an official replacement URL.

Is there any news on when the series starts?

>>1149589
This [www.funtasiadaily.com] Funtasia Daily article from a week and a half ago (which indicates a Q4 2014 release) really doesn't look good, though the few Funtasians left try not to think too much about it.

I also know I've been really on overtime when it comes to the next /oat/ Filly thread, but I haven't found the time or confidence to do so yet.

>>1149583
Since my filly.com account works on myfilly.com, I'm assuming it's some sort of official mirror.

New /oat/ Filly thread for those who are interested: >>/oat/38950771

>>1149838
Ah, so it turned out to be right. Can you access things like the minigames and the Filly realm map with your account too?

>>1149858
Yep! Also, I seem to have found a mirror site for the toy sites: http://www.fillyprincess.com/us/unicorn/collections/

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>>1150198
I don't have any problems with the toy line links on the Filly site either, such as the British English link [dracco.myfilly.com] to the Princess line. The links I'm using are also using the Myfilly branding, so I really think this is the new thing.

By the way, I am still keeping an eye on this thread (and checking Funtasia Daily daily), just been pretty busy lately and don't have much Fantasia-y to add.

The possible long wait sucks, makes me wonder if they're timing it around something else, e.g. another BRB Internacional program.

Filly have sold out in shops around me, but I got a set of four (Caspian, Twilight, Willow, and Faye) because hype is fun. Need to dig up the filly (Cedric?) I already had, too... Not sure why my Toys R Us hasn't restocked them, though. They seemed to sell at a decent rate and were never on offer that I saw.

...Hopefully, if it is a long wait, they'll release a bunch of new clips and so on to get us back in the mood before the series starts!

>>1148019
"Starting at the academy" does sound likely, though I wouldn't rule out that it might be a celebration for them saving the day. Maybe a mix of both (e.g. if the school's temporarily closed whilst they sort stuff out)? Hard to say when we know so little about how the monster story will actually turn out.

>>1151043
"Funtasia-y" even... I did say I was tired.

>>1151043
>...Hopefully, if it is a long wait, they'll release a bunch of new clips and so on to get us back in the mood before the series starts!
Indeed. With the whole FF thing presumably cooling down over the next months, they would really need a content defibrillator to re-awaken it when the premiere is approaching.

>By the way, I am still keeping an eye on this thread (and checking Funtasia Daily daily), just been pretty busy lately
Sounds good.

>but I got a set of four (Caspian, Twilight, Willow, and Faye) because hype is fun.
>Not sure why my Toys R Us hasn't restocked them, though.
I took a look through a medium-sized toy store in late November (as my Toys 'R' Us didn't have much of a Filly selection), and found that the four-Filly sets had abnormally small figures, as in smaller than a FiM blindbag. I also couldn't find any sets with Will or Bella.

>makes me wonder if they're timing it around something else, e.g. another BRB Internacional program.
Apart from Invizimals, I recall Dracco having plans for a zombie franchise (Could it be Zombie City?). But juggling multiple balls in the air ought to be feasible for all the companies involved in this.

>and don't have much Fantasia-y to add.
>>1151120
>"Funtasia-y" even... I did say I was tired.
If I had remembered more than two sketches from Disney's Fantasia movies, I'd probably have a joke to insert here.

>>1151720
>But juggling multiple balls in the air ought to be feasible for all the companies involved in this.
I meant that they wouldn't want it to be overshadowed by something. Maybe 2014's fourth quarter looks like it doesn't have many other programs aimed at young girls airing at the time? Or, because it's a toy-based show, maybe they want it to be fresh and new at Christmas?

Lots of good shows have been cancelled because they got a bad time slot (e.g. up against something more popular), or didn't sell enough toys.

>>1151859
While I don't think there's any shows that could overshadow it most of the year, I also don't really keep track of release dates for other shows unless it's Black Dynamite or Sheriff Callie's Wild West.

>Lots of good shows have been cancelled because they got a bad time slot (e.g. up against something more popular)
Maybe they do in the US, but that is however where all the cartoons are focusing their efforts. A show in Norway has to be outrageously poorly performing before getting cancelled, and the amount of S1 cancellations on the national NRK in the past five years that I know of, is only one.

>or didn't sell enough toys.
I remember a major part of Funtasia's demographic being those who grew up with the toys, who are by now at least 10 and are unlikely to buy horse toys just like that. So I think they can allow themselves some leeway on the toy sale focus.

>>1151908
Is it not airing in the US too?

Still, I've not got any explanations if those aren't it. Don't often see adverts coming out over a year in advance these days.

>>1152291
Oh, of course it'll air in the US too. I don't think there's any confirmations of it, but it's made with an American crew after all. What my argument was about, was that while the US has a tendency to cancel shows for being maybe 0.02 points too low, that all cartoons were aiming at the US market and could end up being subject to their cancelling tendencies. I'm not always good at explaining arguments.

If a show releases clips more than six months on forehand, it usually indicates an early pilot or an otherwise very early first episode. But since FF already has a full 26-episode Series 1 confirmed, that'd be unlikely at best with this.

>>1152455
But it does already have finished episodes, no? Some were shown at an event in... September, wasn't it?

Edit: Yes >>1070652

Not that they can't delay regardless, it's just frustrating, haha...

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>>1153175
So they premiered two episodes at Cannes?

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to producing the show, but once they've finished producing all 26 episodes, I don't think they have an excuse to not air them. I know US network telly has the concept of "mid-season replacements", but that won't apply to a delay from spring to late autumn.

This is pretty neat.
http://mmmgaleryjka.deviantart.com/art/Willow-inspired-plush-437217789

>>1156938
It looks more wooly than most FiM plushies I've seen, so that'll be a difference from normally. It looks better the more I look at it. He even got the muzzle right, though maybe a bit more distinction between the front and back hooves could work, though I'm not a plushie expert.

>>1156938
Ooh, nice! To be fair, the official plushes that I've seen mostly haven't been so bad, but I like the fluffy tail on that one!

>>1076039
Btw, left out my update for the other cartoon stuff before: I couldn't find Mia and Me episodes and could only find Chima in poor quality. The latter was very... Cartoon, as in jokes thrown in to break any chance of tension, and I wasn't won over by that. Will probably try some more eps but haven't yet.

...I need a better site for watching cartoons online...

>>1161268
>but I like the fluffy tail on that one!
When I look at it, it seems to be made out of a few pipe cleaners instead of a fluffy puffy tail. But then, I've never really felt or used any pipe cleaners in my life, so for what I know, they could be pretty fluffy.

>...I need a better site for watching cartoons online...
A good cable subscription, enough so to receive most children's channels, will always beat out online cartoon sites. And if cable doesn't work, there is a 40-60 chance (if it has aired in the UK a few years before) it's on Netflix. And if that doesn't work either, you'll likely have *hark*Pirate Bay*sneeze* as a remaining option.

>Will probably try some more eps but haven't yet.
I tried with episode 2. When I have a choice between multiple episodes, I try not to go for the first episode.

>>1162423
Looks far too fluffy for pipe cleaners to me...
>Bigger pic: http://mmmgaleryjka.deviantart.com/art/Willow-inspired-plush-437217789
Those would be some amazing pipe cleaner skills! I think it's just great plushie skills.

>A good cable subscription, enough so to receive most children's channels, will always beat out online cartoon sites.
I find Sky often doesn't have what I want, gives the same description for every ep of the series, and sometimes shows edited versions without warning.

>Netflix
I don't have it.

>And if that doesn't work either, you'll likely have *hark*Pirate Bay*sneeze* as a remaining option.
Can't see Mia and Me there, either... Guess I might be able to find it somewhere, but it's nicer not to download them...

>>Will probably try some more eps but haven't yet.
>I tried with episode 2. When I have a choice between multiple episodes, I try not to go for the first episode.
I find the same, but sometimes the first ep is really well done, so I try not to skip it, just not to judge based solely on that.

>>1167129
Oh, hey, Mia and Me IS on Sky! About 20 eps in though... Hm...

>>1167172
Well, what are you waiting for? As long as the episode isn't of the "We are preparing for the final battle due to things you haven't watched earlier on" variant, there's nothing to lose.

>>1167129
>I think it's just great plushie skills.
Then I do wonder what the tail is made of. It doesn't look like cotton to me, though with the large amount of fluff hair for the body, maybe he used the rest of his fluff hair on the tail?

>I find Sky often doesn't have what I want, gives the same description for every ep of the series, and sometimes shows edited versions without warning.
I've heard stories about censoring The Simpsons and Regular Show, but is it a widespread problem within Sky?

>>1168427
I've caught censorship on Adventure Time, but I don't tend to re-watch stuff on Sky so I can't be sure.

>Then I do wonder what the tail is made of.
Fluffy material in a tail shape?
>Like this but fluffier?

>Well, what are you waiting for? As long as the episode isn't of the "We are preparing for the final battle due to things you haven't watched earlier on" variant, there's nothing to lose.
Ah, right! You said it was like Dreamstone: Decent, but only really 1 episode plot.

Got theatre rehearsal in a bit but I'll try to watch one later tonight. Hopefully I'll see the hippocampus in action!

>>1169182
>Like this but fluffier?
Yes, pretty much, but less shaped up, and indeed more fluffy.

>Ah, right! You said it was like Dreamstone: Decent, but only really 1 episode plot.
I can't claim to have watched Dreamstone, but yes, for me it felt spectacular at the beginning and lost its novelty before you could say "Argembarger".

>Hopefully I'll see the hippocampus in action!
I think almost every episode I watched involved either assisting the unicorns or saving the unicorns, so I'd say your chances are good. Though, after looking up "hippocampus" on Wiktionary, I can also say that you shouldn't really expect any part-dolphins.

>>1169238
Well, I watched 2 Mia and Me eps (eps 11 and 12). Only one saw the henchmen get shrunk and putting back together the trumpet is apparently a task that spans 20 eps, so I guess you got a strange impression of it?

Still, very wooden acting, and, much as I loved the equines' animation, it wasn't shown off enough. I got the Naga villain's introduction ep, and he was wonderful, but... The plots were slowly paced without much to offer. Also, the real life sections seemed very unrelated to the story's message, which I wasn't expecting! It would have been nice if it didn't so much make the real life sections feel unnecessary. Maybe they use it more later?

Overall it was a little more mediocre than I think it should be, but I'll probably read through some ep summaries for ones that sound good and give them a try. By which I mean I'm going to look for the water episode to see the hippocampus do something other than just appearing in the opening credits!

And I'd say Dreamstone's worth a look. As I recall, the first ep actually is a good place to start.

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I found the myfilly facebook page and twitter account. Maybe something will be happening in the USA?

https://www.facebook.com/pages/MyFilly/222736247742190

https://twitter.com/MyFillyUSA

I found the myfilly facebook page and twitter account. Maybe something will be happening in the USA?

>>1175830
Good find. I guess they've finally gotten around to the "social media presence" they mentioned in a tweet some months ago.

The Twitter page so far focuses only on Filly Butterfly (referring specifically to it on the Twitter account header), and I haven't checked the Facebook page, but it seems they're serious about reaching the American market, and I can get some good posting pictures out of it too.

>>1176024
I am interested what they are going to try to do to break in to the american market as well.

>>1176342
Filly Funtasia seems to be the biggest push into the market, being made with an American show crew (The list of writers seems to be entirely Americans or maybe Canadians). The Butterfly and Wedding lines has also been listed on the dedicated Myfilly website's American English section (which was before simply the Filly site) for a month or two, so I think those lines will get to American toy aisles before long to really kick-off the brand.

But this is pretty much qualified guesswork.

https://boards.4chan.org/mlp/res/16730202
It's alive!

>>1194846
Filly on 4chan is alive! Which I presume is a good thing.

While reading through the thread, it hit me that there wasn't much of note that actually happened in that thread, maybe except the Futasia jokes near the end (of which there's been a few on Ponychan too). I feel like comparing 4chan's and /oat/'s Filly threads to Seinfeld (Invented the "show about nothing" formula) and Frasier (Was at one point considered the most intelligent show on US network).

At least I got confirmed the existence of the After Dark site, which has among most Ponychan Funtasians been a vague rumour for months.

Yooo

>>1234872
[Insert Regular Show "Oooooohh" here]

Looks good, especially the shading and the face colouring.

this is beautiful

>>1236197
I know, right?

You think this [www.funtasiadaily.com] was bad? The German [www.lizenzbranche.de] version of that source shows the date for completion as "Frühjahr 2015", and Google Translate translates "frühjahr" as spring. Spring 2015, that is.

First it was April 2014. Then it was simply 2014. And in the past weeks, this has in quick succession become Q4 2014, the time around New Year's 2014/15, early 2015, and spring 2015. The extended delays are announced faster than jab punches in Wii Fit Plus' boxing bonus-time, and I see no end to it. There are no cited explanations for the delay that we know of. Screen 21 does not list the show, and I don't think anypony ever found out which of the uncountable amounts of Black Dragon companies out there were the one that was announced to produce the show.

I announced in a general chat thread on /oat/ yesterday that I was on the verge of giving up all hope for the show, and the verge is getting closer and closer now. Though I also announced there that I wouldn't want several other Funtasians here to know about it, which I've thoroughly broken since I felt the need to mention why it can get much worse than merely "early 2015".

I'm not throwing in the towel for good just yet, and I'll still contribute to Fillychan and finding news (although somewhat less than before), but I can imagine that it'll be game over for my Funtasian interest within two weeks if it continues in this pace.

>>1245037
I saw that on FD. It is a pretty sucky development, I wish we at least knew why it was happening, especially given that episodes have been confirmed as completed... Maybe they got REALLY bad feedback? Hopefully not...

Is there any forum or such where someone might be able to ask? I recall reading that staff members were originally replying on the YouTube account before that attention got to be too much, so I assume BRB will have friendly staff elsewhere too, maybe better hidden from "you're ripping off MLP!" accusations.

>>1246344
I can only imagine that there must have been some huge production problems with the remaining episodes, but any confirmed reasons are nowhere to be found. Interviews have cited a, paraphrased, very positive feedback from channels and show buyers, and Mimiga, one of the Filly creators, were surprised that the show had amassed a fanbase back in late November, so I don't think feedback is the problem. And after all, gigantic internet hate hasn't stopped Nickelback, One Direction or Johnny Test from thriving.

I couldn't find any forums on BRB's site, and their E-mail addresses were specifically meant for distributing and licencing.

>>1245037
>>1247771

Aww, don't give up yet.

>>1247834
I'm still standing strong on my two feet, so that's good as of yet. But I believe the question of giving up is now at least more likely to be 'when' than 'if', even if by virtue of the wait having been extended by a year since the days of the trailer (I usually don't discuss the waiting itself due to my worries about causing bad feels/moods/something).

>>1234872
Neat!

>>1245037
The show was originally supposed to be ready for MIPTV, and that's in one week. I have hope we'll get some more information then.


However, in the light of the announcements on everfree.net and mlpg.co, I've made some changes to my website. Sorry guys!

>>1247959
>However, in the light of the announcements on everfree.net and mlpg.co, I've made some changes to my website. Sorry guys!
Oooh, Magic is Friendly seems like it has potential. We've got Derpyjack, Filly Pie, Flutter and Rainbow Shopping.

>Tori Spelling hasn't even appeared on Filly Funtasia a single time.
Filly Funtasia can never boast of this level of autoritah. They'd probably end up with Conchata Ferrel (Berta from Two and a Half Men).

>MLP features a legal team which writes love letters to their fans regularly.
*smiley face*

This beats the other April Fools' I've seen today by far, but mostly because I've only looked at two other sites, and the obvious candidates at Eurogamer both turned out to be true.

Toleration and love to my best eachpony, you, me, and that fan song.

¡ʞool ǝʇᴉs ʍǝu ʇɐǝɹפ

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Gaiz. FillyRT, gaiz. It's been like 80 tweets there in the past fifteen hours. More than roughly the last three months combined. So much stuff. So much humour.

>>1248124
Awesome!

So there'll be a April Fools' appreciation post when you change the layout back to normal?

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>>1249894
>So there'll be a April Fools' appreciation post when you change the layout back to normal?
Presuming that question was for Soth, I think it'd be awesome if he compilated all the Filly-related April Fools out there, at least the good ones.

What's going on?

>>1250549
Remember the Filly Funtasia trailer from mid-October last year that every brony and their dog was talking about? The show concept stuck with a few of them, and since /oat/ threads were difficult to time and 4chan's serial for it went dead, this thread is a chatting place for a few of the pretty few that are still into it.

>>1250526
Ah, yes, that was for Soth, sorry!

>>1249894
And here it is: http://www.funtasiadaily.com/2014/04/april-fools-roundup.html

My draft version of that article was pretty snarky, so I had to rewrite it to tone it down a bit. I guess I'm becoming just a tiny bit bitter. Oh well.

>>1254577
The 4chan sub thing was new to me, both the joke and the existence of a sub(marine?) thingy connected to 4chan.

On Everfreefuntasia, it's been a 420 airhorn blazing party all day and all night.

I wasn't (un)lucky enough to see the draft, but I guess that if it gets delayed even further, we'll have all the reasons in the world to get grumpy together.

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>>1254577
Yay for the update! Boo for the bitterness. It's fully understandable, of course, especially as we haven't been giving any explanation, but... I don't know. Maybe we could come up with something fun to do with existing toy-related content? Waiting another year sucks, but I've enjoyed our waiting thus far.

Could we perhaps come up with some monthly Filly-related thing to help the time pass?

...The text on that Bluntasia vid still makes me smile, haha...

>Oh, I got a late and impersonal happy birthday from the Filly Facebook page! That's nice.

>Looking through Funtasia Daily's tweets
>"The most perplexing thing to come out of all the newfound attention for Filly Funtasia: all the people who think Hasbro will issue it a C&D."
>wut
>people are strange
>Reminds me of how lots of people thought the leader Breezie in INEBB was played by Anneli Heed.
>Because of what they thought was a Swedish accent
>I can tell it wasn't much Swedish in it
>Hooray for bluetext stories with changing focus and capitalisation

>>1255033
>Could we perhaps come up with some monthly Filly-related thing to help the time pass?
What would that be, in that case? A gameshow? A storybook writing/reading? A fanfic contest? An LoE or Minecraft server?

>>1255050
I remember Filly Butterfly setting up Twitter and Facebook accounts, so I guess there's some benefits from following them. I don't really have an account on either network I can use to subscribe/friend, though.

>>1256251
I guess to people who think it's a new thing it must seem strange? Though thinking that Hasbro can trademark colourful animated horses as a whole is kind of funny.

>>Could we perhaps come up with some monthly Filly-related thing to help the time pass?
>What would that be, in that case? A gameshow? A storybook writing/reading? A fanfic contest? An LoE or Minecraft server?
I'm not sure, mostly I was thinking that 12 focused fan events sounds a lot easier than 365 days of a vague "can we still find the motivation?" feeling.

We're a bit limited by the small amount of interest and official content, so something that could be comfortably kept to this thread's regulars would be good (invite others to join but make no assumptions).

>(I also tried Lynn and Will, but, while Will's kind of passable, it doesn't have the colour options to do Lynn justice!)

>>1256510
>Though thinking that Hasbro can trademark colourful animated horses as a whole is kind of funny.
If that ever were to possibly happen, I know of at least five other horse toy brands just at my nearest Toys 'R' Us that qualifies more as cash-ins on MLP than what Filly does.

>I'm not sure, mostly I was thinking that 12 focused fan events sounds a lot easier than 365 days of a vague "can we still find the motivation?" feeling.
>so something that could be comfortably kept to this thread's regulars would be good (invite others to join but make no assumptions).
I don't have many ideas for that. A fanfic contest is the only idea that appears in my mind, if we knew how to share the stories with each other?

If MIPTV brings with it news of practically any kind (or no news at all), we could be able to base a strategy for a few months on that.

>(I also tried Lynn and Will, but, while Will's kind of passable, it doesn't have the colour options to do Lynn justice!)
Rose and Bella look pretty good there, so at least two of the four works.

>>1256612
Are you implying that My Pretty Pony isn't entirely original?

>A fanfic contest is the only idea that appears in my mind, if we knew how to share the stories with each other?
Maybe one on the DA? And try to get people to focus on characters other than those shown in the trailer? After all, the toys have bios...

Perhaps a contest to design their own Filly family? Focus on OCs is a bit of a weird way to go, but it should be easier to keep it short and comparable. While a short comedy fic is hard to compare to a lengthy story with philosophical elements, comparing a family of 4 to a family of 4 should be simpler, no?

Given that the toy bios exist and that the Filly world is supposedly quite detailed (sure someone said that on this thread) we could try to use that to our advantage.

Maybe the first contest should be for contest ideas.

>>1256736
Yes, exactly. At least we've got things like Set Funny Pony, My Little Filly, Wonder PONY Land, Lovely Horse, Demon Donkey and Mini Funny Horse that look iiinfinitely much better.

>Perhaps a contest to design their own Filly family? Focus on OCs is a bit of a weird way to go, but it should be easier to keep it short and comparable.
>comparing a family of 4 to a family of 4 should be simpler, no?
That would give a huge advantage to people who can draw at par with the best of Derpibooru, e.g. you and Four Leaves. I've got some medium-size experience with hand-drawing (with >>1245037 being my most recent one), and I seriously doubt that Soth could draw anything of note, unless he surprises me. Also, how long should each event be? I could draw four Fillys within a few hours (Less than six) unless I get tired and need a long break from the drawing, and personalities are done within another hour and a half. If it's too short or too rapid, that'd be only one or two days of activity per month.

>Maybe the first contest should be for contest ideas.
Maybe as a pilot contest, but not as a full-on contest where it goes another month before the winner ideas gets tried out.

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>>1257076
>Demon Donkey
[Googles] Haha, wow. I wonder who okayed that name!

>family design contest
I meant for it to focus on the character qualities (how the 4 are related, where they live, etc). Give the marks for how believable they are and how well they fit into the Fillyverse rather than just their presentation. Maybe some on the colour theme, but certainly not just artwork.

>people who can draw at par with the best of Derpibooru, e.g. you and Four Leaves
Ah, thank you! I don't know if I'd say that, but it's very flattering to be told!

>>Maybe the first contest should be for contest ideas.
>Maybe as a pilot contest, but not as a full-on contest where it goes another month before the winner ideas gets tried out.
A pilot contest sounds good, it would let us know how many of the DA watchers are paying attention!

>>1257460
Probably the same guys who tried carefully to not misspell "robotcar". Send the Books!

>I meant for it to focus on the character qualities (how the 4 are related, where they live, etc).
Hmm... doesn't sound too bad, though it's getting a bit late in the evening for my brain to think things through. I have experience with OC colouring from a Ponychan-posting-personality-that-was-once-good-but-is-no-longer-correct thing I made last December (Positively helped me with the face), so that's the least of my obstacles.

>it would let us know how many of the DA watchers are paying attention!
I'm surprised there's still 25 watchers of the DA Filly group, considering it imploded months ago when several artists that had pictures there closed their accounts. But if we get the DA group's attention on it, and Soth mentions it on his site and tweets about it like he does with his usual articles, we could be looking at a super-contest with participators from Funtasia Daily, Fillychan, DeviantArt and FillyRT. Covering multiple sites was however the motivation for why I made Fillychan in the first place, so such a dream has failed once before.

Also, I have really little experience with DA posting standards. Are there any unusual rules one have to watch out for, whether it be posting art, text or something combined?

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>>1257587
The combined pic confused me for a bit, but "Roborcat" is awesome!
>Probably the same guys who tried carefully to not misspell "robotcar"
I now have mental imagery of "Careful... Nearly... OH NO! My hand slipped, both misspelling it and sent it for print!"

>Also, I have really little experience with DA posting standards. Are there any unusual rules one have to watch out for, whether it be posting art, text or something combined?
Normally just repeating the basics about "must be your own art and obey DA rules" plus more if you want sexual and grimdark content ruled out completely.

Seems to be pretty hit and miss for whether or not a contest catches on, even when the prizes are good... Recently I've seen several artists put "you must have posted a journal about this contest to enter" in the rules to help get the word out, so that's a possibility.

>I'm glad Funtasia already shows a wide range of expressions!

BRB have no news about being at MIPTV this week (Their most recent news is having a few of its shows joining Hulu, which I think was only in US and Japan anyway), and they aren't on what is publically available of the participator list at MIPTV Junior (Goes alphabetically up to W). Get unhype.

>>1262545
>The combined pic confused me for a bit
I realised when writing >>1257587 that I needed one pic for the toy knockoff part and another pic for the OC designing part. I was halfway through writing it when I realised it, so it was out of the question to make two posts, so I had to pick up my hackneyed (and originally poorly recieved) solution of pasting the two pics into a Paint pic.

>I'm glad Funtasia already shows a wide range of expressions!
Where do you get those high-res pics? Is it from the Filly "Downloads" pages, or their Facebook page, or somewhere else?

>>1263709
>Where do you get those high-res pics?
I may have gone through the Facebook page's galleries after finding the Aries pic.

>combined pic
It did get the job done once I stopped trying to see how they were related!

>BRB have no news about being at MIPTV this week
Boo. Honestly, they don't seem very organised when it comes to keeping outsiders updated...

>>1254656
>The 4chan sub thing was new to me, both the joke and the existence of a sub(marine?) thingy connected to 4chan.
That's MLPG's "sub" (what they call the imageboard they created, based on one of their internal jokes); MLPG is one of those pony serial threads on 4chan that predates the existence of /mlp/. All other such serial threads have now dissolved or left 4chan entirely, but MLPG makes sure there's always a serial thread about MLP on /mlp/.

>>1256251
I like to monitor incoming traffic to the website which occasionally brings me to brony forums and whatnot that are discussing Funtasia. Thinking Hasbro is going to C&D Funtasia is one of the common misconceptions. (Thinking I work for the creators of Filly is the funniest)

>>1257587
Yep, I can do that! (The tweets are automatically posted by a script.)

>>1263709
>BRB have no news about being at MIPTV this week
They are there. There's this pdf: http://www.icex.es/audiovisualfromspain/Guide_MIPTV'14.pdf

Picture posted is a screenshort of the relevant part.

It's possible we won't get any new info, though.


Edit: It looks like the 2nd Filly promo is now gone from WorldScreen. What does it mean?

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>>1263902
I could easily find many more knockoff toys for popular toy brands, so Demon Donkey and Roborcar is not walking alone. And I remember the MyfillyUSA twitter having some nice pictures too, but with some quite bad timing as Ponychan was in the middle of the recent "What can I do?" image crisis when the tweet account was new.

>>1264048
Ah, the MLP General. I knew it was still around, but not that they were dedicated enough to make a reserve board for themselves.

>(Thinking I work for the creators of Filly is the funniest)
Heheh. I remember a guy at Ponychan-/int/'s German thread that thought I was running my "Filly blog", seemingly thinking I was the one behind Funtasia Daily.

>They are there. There's this pdf: (link)
Well found.

I thought MIPTV was something of an exclusive club for major telly companies, so it surprised me that they have an entire pavillion dedicated to Spanish entities. Their concepts amuse me too, such as "The Shower" (I swear I saw a strip in Frode Øverli's Rutetid that was about that), and this line from Lucky Fred 2: "Fred, an ordinary 13-year-old boy who accidentally became the owner of a super-powered, shape-shifting robot who can turn into any object Fred can dream of with a simple voice command."

>Edit: It looks like the 2nd Filly promo is now gone from WorldScreen. What does it mean?
I have two possibilities. Either the trailer has timed out by being too old, or they're preparing something new. I remember from the first Tinker Bell movie's troubled production that the first trailer(s) disappeared when there came new trailers which showed a completely different plot, so if history repeats, we could be looking at a refurbished show with huge differences from the original basis.

>>1257460
>A pilot contest sounds good, it would let us know how many of the DA watchers are paying attention!
>>1264048
>Yep, I can do that!
The grand question then is, who shall be in charge of the contest? I don't believe I have the resources or experience to run an organised contest, especially not outside of Ponychan.

>>1256736
A contest sounds like fun!

>>1264048
>>1264196
>It looks like the 2nd Filly promo is now gone from WorldScreen. What does it mean?
My guesses would be that the promo was just up too long or that the moved release date meant they didn't want it taking up space so early on, but
>or they're preparing something new. I remember from the first Tinker Bell movie's troubled production that the first trailer(s) disappeared when there came new trailers which showed a completely different plot, so if history repeats, we could be looking at a refurbished show with huge differences from the original basis.
Would be interesting! So would that mean a reshuffle of the episode order and a different focus? Seems pretty possible, especially if the precedent has been set by Disney.

Also could explain the timeline (brackets for speculation):
>Some finished episodes shown
>(Feedback highlighting a strength they weren't aware of)
>(Discussions on moving to focus on that strength)
>Release date delayed
>One of the old promos taken down
...Though if that were true, we'd expect the trailer to disappear off the main YouTube... Then again, I'd expect that anyway given that it still says 2014.

Speaking of the original trailer, it still surprises me that so many people are so quick to judge when the FIM trailers included https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rkd_uS5xA0 ! How have some people still not realised that trailers for a particular audience are all pretty indistinguishable in tone?

>The grand question then is, who shall be in charge of the contest? I don't believe I have the resources or experience to run an organised contest, especially not outside of Ponychan.
Hm, I'm not sure... Like I said, I've still not quite pinpointed what makes contests a hit and what doesn't. Vague limitations (e.g. "draw a pony, any pony!") aren't very inspiring, and it's a pain afterwards to find out that 1 person (with specific likes) is the judge (group decisions are favoured), but I've seen some with good prizes not take off. My best guess is that it's the advertising for it.

Individual artists might be happy to help get the word out. I see that CeleryPony has shown an interest in the group, and her cute OC animations make her a known artist, so she's sure to have a lot of watchers, so encouraging artists to spread the word even if they don't have the time to enter would probably be a good move. I've seen some groups politely request prize donations too (e.g. spare points, or offering to draw a pic for the winner). Sometimes other groups help too, but normally only if it relates to their topic, plus they'd need to be large and active groups to justify the effort...

Maybe just post a journal entry and see what type of response you get and what people have to say? Something concise, like: "Should we have a contest? What experiences (good or bad) have you had with DA contests?" <<< (Assume that most people won't reply to lengthy journals. If they DO reply then you could ask more questions.)

If you get a good response then the UK/US Easter Holiday overlap is coming up (13th-21st) and trying to include at least some of that time might help. Or not! Again, it depends on who's interested.

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>>1255050
That is really cute! I cannot wait to have a happy birthday Sagittarius in November!

I personally don't know how they could personalize it.

>>1264338
It looks like they'll just put a Filly next to the symbol, which isn't much, but still kind of nice. They've started on Aries so I imagine they'll do the lot!

>>1264334
>So would that mean a reshuffle of the episode order and a different focus?
Judging by the Tinker Bell example, it'd mean a full restart from scratch. I doubt that anypony else here knows the movie's production problems, but its original plot (from what small pieces we could get) was Tinker Bell going to some school to be granted access to pixie dust, which would then be used to spread belief to children all over Britain the world; and there may also have been something with a girl going to Pixie Hollow as a fairy. It is said that John Lasseter himself declared it unwatchable and demanded they start all over again, and the final result was about preparing for a winter-spring season change and Tinker Bell doubting her pots-and-pans talent.

>Some finished episodes shown
>(Feedback highlighting a strength they weren't aware of)
>(Discussions on moving to focus on that strength)
What kind of strength could it be in that case? If the professional companies have seen something about that we haven't (which is somewhat likely), what do they see?

>that trailer
Boomerang must really have tried to push the friendship aspect there.

>the contest part
I for one think the main problem with the contest isn't whether it'll be popular or not, but rather how to start it at all. I believe several of us on Fillychan want something to do, and there'll probably be a few more when(/if) Soth mentions it on his site.

>>1264329
It sounds nice to me too, at least if there's no major problems popping up with it.

>>1266148
> it'd mean a full restart from scratch
We might never find out what happened to the cupcakes? HORROR!

>strength
Such meddling doesn't always result in good things, but I'd hope that, if it were the case, it would be something nice like wanting stronger links between characters (cough-friendship-cough) or more depth in the dialogue. Maybe they took out or added a romantic interest? Romantic interests are popular with companies but FIM's been praised for avoiding them, so that could go either way. Maybe they decided some of the magic lore needed tweaking?

I'd hope it's making it more interesting rather than making it generic. I don't mind things staying simple but I do like to see new things get tried.

>contest
Mostly DA contests are just 1 journal entry outlining the rules, a reminder post or two before the deadline, and then the voting posts (if it's community voting) and the results.

Again, I think a "What would be good for a contest?" contest would be good.

...Although, a "What would be good for community events?" post might work too - sometimes people like monthly focused discussions rather than contests (the latter requiring more time/effort), and it gives a more social atmosphere.

>>1266607
>We might never find out what happened to the cupcakes? HORROR!
"The horror, the horror!"

>Such meddling doesn't always result in good things (...)
I'd hope for, perhaps some world building, or a more clear chemistry between the Magic Mirror, Battiwigs and the Fillys? I don't have anything major on the wishlist.

>Maybe they took out or added a romantic interest? Romantic interests are popular with companies but FIM's been praised for avoiding them
I remember back when FiM became a thing that shows aimed at "girls", that is Disney Channel's poorly-produced sitcoms and the Nick competitors, were crammed to the brim with teen romances, so from what I remember from back in 2011, it was revolutionary at the time to have a girls' show on a commercial channel that didn't have recurring romances.

>the typical contest set-up
Sounds simple enough to me.

>Again, I think a "What would be good for a contest?" contest would be good.
>...Although, a "What would be good for community events?" post might work too
Well, at least one of them should work well. If you want a tip from me, the latter sounds slightly better, but only slightly.

I found the My Filly Instagram Account! http://instagram.com/myfillyusa

I did not know it existed!

I found the My Filly Instagram Account! http://instagram.com/myfillyusa

I did not know it existed!

>>1274107
As pretty much the first time I have checked out Instagram in any capacity, there were a few good pictures to be found, but I'm beginning to believe that Myfilly seem to be pushing Filly Butterfly and completely forgetting the core sub-brands.

New trailer! New trailer! This is not a drill!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsb0F7tCEBE

(Filly Funtasia segment starts at 1:06)

>>1274276
Holy crap. Calling all Filly posters! Calling all Filly posters! It's on like Hawaii football!

It'll take me at least a week, maybe two or three, to ask every question I could ask about this, but the most attentive questions first:

Who is "Home Focus development"? Why are they using teen dance music for the trailer (Though, EqG did that too)? The quality of the animation really has increased tenfold and even twenty-fold since the days of Bernard, and I could easily increase my Filly pic folder from 110-ish to 250 with this. I need to post this on /oat/ as fast as possible, i.e. within ten minutes.

>>1274276
>>1274313
I'm so excited!

>Also, am I being silly, or are there not normally bird-winged fillies?

The mirrors being used as communication devices brings up the possibility that Batty is secretly keeping Mr Mirror in the school, and that sometimes the mirror looks normal. Would explain why a potential menace gets to stay on school grounds.

The Case of the Missing Cupcakes and Meet Alicornator and Nerd-horse definitely seem to be separate stories. I see a FunDaily commenter has suggested When Rose Met Lynn as another one, which does sound like a sweet introduction story, but I'm not sure it has to be separate... This said, the shipping hugging scene has the selfie mirror, and it seems Rose knowing the answer in class caused shock, so maybe Rose's first day is an ep. They did all seem to know each other in the cupcakes ep, and it's good for series to start with us meeting characters at the same time the protagonist does, so it's likely.

I wonder if the frog and whirlwind spell are separate too...

Another scene comparison: The kick-scene in the new trailer has more vibrant colours.

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>>1275086
No, wait, the frog's watching the shipping.

Not sure if the mirror with the pillar of red magic is the selfie mirror though. Maybe that's effectively Rose's mobile? Alicorny seems to have his. Gem (and its explosive arrival, I think) goes with Al too.

So much mystery! Only seems like a few eps are shown but I guess that's where they're up to now.

And this time in 3 years when we're complaining about them moving the air date to 2018, they'll release a trailer with full realism...

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I just realised, and I wonder how I didn't realise it earlier: HFDL from the first trailer stands for Home Focus development Limited from the third trailer. I blame only having looked at Funtasia Daily's article when it was fresh off the press and only had the BRB collection video.

Maybe I put a lot of faith in Filly Funtasia with this, but it seems to me like the show that will save modern cartoons. I just so happened to take a look at an Uncle Grandpa episode on CN an hour before the trailer, and the low, shocked "What?" came out of my mouth with the frequency of shotgun rounds. I think I said it 50 times in 12 minutes, and it was so weird at times that I fell tears.

>>1275806
>so maybe Rose's first day is an ep
I remember I read on a toy site a month or so ago that the show started off with Rose's first day at the Academy, so I'm pretty sure that'll happen.

>The kick-scene in the new trailer has more vibrant colours.
Almost the entire trailer seemed to have more vibrant colours, and the comparison pic on Funtasia Daily showed a much clearer background near the window. The background decorations in the kick-scene was good enough to make a mockery out of every hand-drawn cartoon ever on that area.

>>1275258
>No, wait, the frog's watching the shipping.
I can't say I saw a frog spell, so maybe it's just a pet frog á la Angel Bunny?

And by 2021, they'll have a virtual reality world trailer with dubious intentions that'd make the Friendship is Optimal fanfic proud.

>>1276363
>HFDL from the first trailer stands for Home Focus development Limited from the third trailer.
Ah, okay. I tend to ignore stuff like that anyway.

>it seems to me like the show that will save modern cartoons.
Honestly, I'm not sure modern cartoons need saving... Much as I love 80s cartoons, there were a lot of problems then, particularly talking down to kids (as some shows were even forced into doing), and that's much less in fashion now. More kids' shows get praised for avoid it.

This said, FIM has had a monopoly on the clearly-popular "non-humanoids in a fantasy world" thing, and not only do I personally want more of that but I feel that competition will do FIM good. Hasbro tried to take on MH's "weird high school students" thing even though so much of MH's appeal is the gothic edge, monster theme, and high-quality toys, which EG had none of. On top of that, it's like it never occurred to Hasbro that the magical world and ponies make up any of My Little PONY: Friendship is MAGIC's appeal, so it's about time another show stepped up to the mark to try to appeal to that audience. Entertainment is about escapism and it's shockingly rare that more shows don't push that.

>Uncle Grandpa
[Googles] Uh... I didn't say that all modern cartoons are good! There are some weird styles out there, normally combined with weird plots.

>>so maybe Rose's first day is an ep
>I remember I read on a toy site a month or so ago that the show started off with Rose's first day at the Academy, so I'm pretty sure that'll happen.
Haha, okay!

>>The kick-scene in the new trailer has more vibrant colours.
>Almost the entire trailer seemed to have more vibrant colours, and the comparison pic on Funtasia Daily showed a much clearer background near the window.
Aye, it's just another like-for-like comparison. I guess someone's put more money into this and said that "a variety of colours" is a strong point. I really do like that it's not all pink and pastel colours. I think there's a bit too much pink in the main cast's designs, but the backgrounds help to neutralise that, resulting in the pink trio looking better together.

>The background decorations in the kick-scene was good enough to make a mockery out of every hand-drawn cartoon ever on that area.
There are some gorgeous hand-drawn cartoons out there, but Funtasia does seem to be trying to make use of some of the advantages of 3D graphics, even if hair/etc is kept simplified.

The synchronised runners (on the left and bottom when it gives the 50+ countries stat) bug me, but generally I think they're making good use of the 3D world: Bright colours, lots of interesting designs (and without going for horses-everywhere like FIM), lots of items, a variety of textures, a variety of light sources... Have I mentioned how much it bugs me when FIM animators use white to highlight? That's an amateur error and it looks tacky, even if some fans praise any inclusion of shading. Meanwhile, Funtasia's done a really good job of getting it all to look lovely and the lighting to look natural without letting any of the scenes get so dark that they look unappealing.

>>No, wait, the frog's watching the shipping.
>I can't say I saw a frog spell, so maybe it's just a pet frog á la Angel Bunny?
I meant the swirly spell and the frog separately. It could be that the frog's a pet/familiar. Maybe Lynn's, since she's a Witchy Filly? (It's cool that amphibians and reptiles have grown in popularity as girls' pets in shows lately! Always bugged me when girls were depicted as being scared of/disgusted by any animal without fur.)

>And by 2021, they'll have a virtual reality world trailer with dubious intentions that'd make the Friendship is Optimal fanfic proud.
Bwahaha, yes!

Ah, I'm looking forward to the next article IDing the ponies in this, I can't place blue-haired-orange (glaring at Will near the start) either!

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So much to answer too... This is going to take a while to write.

>>1276760
>Much as I love 80s cartoons, there were a lot of problems then, particularly talking down to kids (as some shows were even forced into doing), and that's much less in fashion now. More kids' shows get praised for avoid it.
>Uh... I didn't say that all modern cartoons are good! There are some weird styles out there, normally combined with weird plots.
You've got a pretty good point there. But in the same way that Filly dislikers think of it as a rip-off of FiM, I can't stop thinking of Wander over Yonder as a rip-off of Adventure Time (which I already disliked), and Sanjay & Craig and Rick & Morty as rip-offs of Regular Show, and Uncle Grandpa as a rip-off of both. Where's the inventive differing writing? Where's the in any way coherent episode plots?

Though I also have to say that I liked EqG and disliked Monster High.

>Entertainment is about escapism and it's shockingly rare that more shows don't push that.
Really compelling fiction can and will make you spend lots of time thinking about going and being there, and the more time spent, the better it is. But I've only had this effect in coherent amounts from childrens' cartoons and the occasional childrens' book and fanfictions based on those two. I think gritty settings, and progress with catches and deaths have been in for quite some years (The Dark Knight, TF Prime, Black Dynamite), which has provided great action, but would anypony want to dream themselves into worlds where you can die at any possible moment?

>I guess someone's put more money into this and said that "a variety of colours" is a strong point. I really do like that it's not all pink and pastel colours.
They've even taken care to not have much pink in the show logo *hark*FiM*sneeze*.

>Have I mentioned how much it bugs me when FIM animators use white to highlight? That's an amateur error and it looks tacky, even if some fans praise any inclusion of shading.
I don't think you've mentioned it to me before, but FiM aren't the kings of shadows. The shadows under all the ponies are round like a football, trees and mountains have no shadows, and lighting in general is like an early 00's PS2 game.

>I meant the swirly spell and the frog separately.
Aaaah, now I understood the context of that line. I have no clue which episode the swirly spell belongs to, but I'd guess wildly that it has something to do with the scene where Will (apparently) pretends to be a teacher. But the frog is there too... Maybe the frog is a recurring character?

>Ah, I'm looking forward to the next article IDing the ponies in this, I can't place blue-haired-orange (glaring at Will near the start) either!
It's been a while since EMF was active with Filly, so I don't think we could count on him. But how would we be supposed to ID the Alicornator, among other odd-ones-out?

>Right, I'm going to compare the S1 classroom of FIM with the S1 classroom of FF, because casual analysis counts as "a fun weekend activity" to me

Summary: It's so long it needs two posts and rather makes it sound that I dislike FIM's style, which is really not true, but FF certainly holds up a lot better to nitpicking. Overall, I don't think anyone calling Funtasia ugly could compare these two scenes and find FIM superior on any accounts unless the reviewer had a preference for the cartoon style or the type of classroom (and, to be fair, I really rather love FIM's art style and prefer 2D generally and I still think FF's managed its art better here).

Obviously the two scenes are after a slightly different feel: The magical school for young adult royalty and the small village school for foals. However, there are obvious similarities from the start: Classroom setting, repeated patterns around the top of the room, windows to the left, 9 pupils, blackboard towards the front, etc, so I'm going to look at the implementation (all whilst politely not going on about the Sweetie and Scoot recolours at the front of FIM's class). I'll leave out FF's teacher and Al, too, since there's nothing to compare them to in the FIM scene.

Colours and patterns

FIM has gone for a warmer green and beige with a brown floor whilst FF has gone for a colder blues and greys contrasted with an orange floor. Overall they both contribute to the main themes of the two, with FF being grander and more professional whereas FIM has the warmer, friendlier, feel. FIM generally goes with horsey and hearts for decorations, continued in this room, and FF has plenty of elaborate patterns to look at. All good so far!

Lighting

There is no world outside those FIM windows and quite where so much light has come from is... Questionable. The room should be pretty dingy with dark little windows half-covered by curtains. The use of light isn't so bad (darkest around the light source wall, bright around the pupils to bring attention to them, dark towards the foreground so that it's less distracting), but it does create some contradictions. There's also a disagreement of shadows: The vampiric FIM fillies and much of the room's furnishings have no shadows at all, whilst the desks and most benches have shadows directly under them, and the back benches have one long shadow between them.

Meanwhile, FF, which has very convincing lighting (3D is cheating), has emphasised the light streaming through the windows to give a warmer, friendlier, feel that the room's design doesn't. The shadows towards the top further emphasise room size and grandeur. It also has translucent wings on the Fairy Fillies, which is nice. No world to be seen through the windows there either, but they look full of light rather than blanked out, which adds to the atmosphere and, with so many shiny surfaces, supports the amount of lighting.

Given the limitations of 2D, FIM compares pretty well, but the dark windows and shadow inconsistencies let it down a little.

Room materials

Why does the FIM school have a straw floor? Surely floorboards would have better given the school vibe? Maybe it was meant to be cute, but it comes across as a bit messy. Meanwhile, the walls... On the buildings I take those patterns to the timber frame house thing but here it seems to be wallpaper? I'm not sure what the ceiling's meant to be. Also, the curtains furthest away aren't properly hanging on their rail.

FF has tiled floors, metal and stone/marble wall decorations, and some wood used next to the ceiling. The windows have patterned wooden frames.

Obvious FF is cheating again with its 3D advantages, but as FIM was going for the "small village simple classroom" feel it should have a simplistic and easily recognised feel in the room structure as well as the layout. A little more care on this could have added a lot to the overall impression.

Furniture

FF seems to have dragged in fancy coffee tables and some mismatched furniture to make the room more classroomy, plus we can't see what the Fillies are sitting on (though it seems there's something). While this takes away from the professional vibe, I think it brings in a "bustling, busy, classroom" feel, helped by the big piles of books and scrolls.

FIM has gone for simplistic, but not entirely well... Obviously I'd nitpick if they were clearly copied and pasted, but the back row's desk tops seem wonky and Diamond Tiara's desk has lost its legs and had its heart hole filled in. Also, Scootabloo's bench is plenty big enough for her whilst Tootsie's slipping over the back of hers. It's nice that they aren't all identical, but still.

The blackboards are a nice comparison point: Simplistic and hung on the wall for FIM and intricate and worked into the wall design for FF. Hooray for blackboards!

>>1276861
Part 2:

Items

The telescope and projector screen leap out in the FIM classroom. While FIM has a variety of technology, it doesn't help the simplistic feel, especially if they just leave their telescope lying around. Shouldn't in be in a proper closet? And if not, where's the projector? Maybe it was stolen. Moving on: The books. The ones at the back have been carelessly coloured so that their pages blend into the wall, and the ones near the front have been styled so that they look more wooden than the furniture. Ah well, apart from the bags looking a bit too clearly copied-and-pasted in terms of positioning, the pupils' personal learning accessories are good, so there's that. Anyway, beyond the #2Dworldproblems...

FIM has the telescope, a globe, a whole bunch of books, some paper, a note, a flipchart, a projector screen, 4 paintings. Maybe a vase under the furthest painting (it blends into the wall somewhat).

FF has books, hourglasses, scrolls, paintbrushes, some vases, a flask/urn-thing (under the middle window), a... Candle? On the shelves at the back? Some paper, what looks like a small pyramid (on the right), a strange painting between the windows, and a potted plant.

Let's start with wall decorations: The two simplistic pictures on the walls of FIM's classroom have been doubled into four, and they don't go particularly well with the rest of the room. The painting in FF is ridiculously detailed and the strange frame makes me wonder if there's more to it. It's also a little at odds with its surroundings (less colourful and grand than the rest), but it's clear a lot of thought's gone into it, whereas copying 2 pictures and not even changing the colours... Lazy. Just 2 pictures would have been fine anyway.

I'm not sure why FF has so many timers, but I'm inclined to think they're for a purpose, plus I'm fond of hourglasses: They look nice and, at the very least, further show off 3D's ability to cope with glass. A healthy amount of scrolls adds to the fantasy world vibe, which (magical horses aside) FIM left outside of the classroom. The paintbrushes (I assume are for calligraphy) are a nice touch (I mistook them for boring pencils at first). The plant's a nice addition, too. While one could certainly argue that someone's just placed random accessories around to fill up the room, a bit more of that wouldn't be amiss in FIM's room. I know they're after the simple feel, but having a telescope instead of an abacus (old school vibe), and paintings and a vase instead of foal's work and art supplies (primary school vibe)? It feels like they could have put more into the atmosphere. FF's room is messier but I think it has a stronger classroom vibe that FIM's scene, featuring a primary school, could easily have outdone it on. After all, primary school have much more nostalgia value and are more familiar, but this hasn't been put to much use.

Pupils

Both sets have a nice variety of hairstyles (though FIM's sat its identical pair next to each other), FF's a little samey with them all having crowns, and FIM is far ahead on tail variety. However, apart from Silver Spoon, FIM has broken all the visible foals' legs to have them sit down, which I'm going to mark it down on (there's no need to break kids' bones, Hasbro). FIM foals also have varied foreleg length, and while the style allows for that, I think it's nice that the FF pupils look so solid. As a side note, that solidness will add more tension to action scenes because the added realism compared to FF's rubbery cartoon bones will automatically make us think more of real limbs.

CONCLUSION

FIM's bright and cartoony style goes well enough with the little classroom, and the failures in the scene can be put down to it being S1. However, FF's first season's backgrounds already look to have a lot more love in them. It could be because this classroom will feature more (the mane 6 don't attend school), but if you look at Twilight's library you'll see that it's also quite bare and kind of impractical (very few places for ponies to read books, nothing like a sofa, etc). Obviously FF's at an advantage that it's easier for them to place random items and have them look fine from different angles (as shown later in the new trailer), but they are USING that advantage whilst FIM seems to have struggled with thinking of advantages for this scene (e.g. not having foals' artwork up). FF is pushing fancy fantasy a lot more whilst FIM didn't really push a small village schoolroom vibe very much beyond the desks.

Obviously they're not like and like, and FIM has clear effort shown elsewhere, but I think it says good things that FF compares so well in room design.

Final note: No writing implements? In either? Weird.

>>1276783
>So much to answer too... This is going to take a while to write.
By all means take your time! Detailed nitpicking is fun for me, it's why I've spent so much time on /pony/ in the past.

>You've got a pretty good point there. But in the same way that Filly dislikers think of it as a rip-off of FiM, I can't stop thinking of Wander over Yonder as a rip-off of Adventure Time (which I already disliked), and Sanjay & Craig and Rick & Morty as rip-offs of Regular Show, and Uncle Grandpa as a rip-off of both. Where's the inventive differing writing? Where's the in any way coherent episode plots?
AT has deep, complex, plots that span over several seasons, but I can understand how the excitable and unpredictable front, whilst appealing to me, could be off-putting to others. While I've not seen S&C or UG, I think R&M is copying AT more than RS (I really hate the voices of R&M but I'll probably force more upon myself sometime for the plots and settings).

RS's thing is going from slice of life to wacky in every plot, plus a strange world that's never been quite explained (unusually, all the normal humans are secondary or background characters and are otherwise never distinguished by their being human). It has few long term story lines, though has done some of them very well.

I'm sure AT has brought the weird world/wacky characters back into popularity in a way that hasn't been very big since the 80's sci-fi cartoons and Looney Tunes, and I certainly agree this isn't all good. WOY is like Spongebob-meets-Adventure-Time and not very well done (unless it got better).

>Though I also have to say that I liked EqG and disliked Monster High.
What I've seen of MH hasn't been so bad, considering, but I give it leeway because the clear imagination is in the dolls and the show's kind of tacked onto that. EG was just bland to me, but then we know we have different preferences there.

>>Entertainment is about escapism and it's shockingly rare that more shows don't push that.
>...would anypony want to dream themselves into worlds where you can die at any possible moment?
Well, the superhero worlds are attractive, but that's kid stuff again... I think it's because, to be adult, shows have to include sex and/or gore to a certain extent, and if they're not using that a lot then they'll be told to extract it entirely and be a family show, which limits plots a lot. Adult Swim properly brought in adult cartoons but they've got the same thing going on and, while some thrive on that, or at least cope with it, overall it has to limit the stories they can tell, and make some elements feel forced. Kind of a shame.

Plus, yes, "gritty" (the grey, brown, and angsty type) is really "in". It's resulted in some really ugly films, shows, and games, but they'll keep wringing it out until bright colours make a comeback.

>They've even taken care to not have much pink in the show logo *hark*FiM*sneeze*.
Haha, yes! FF's is so much fancier. I wouldn't mind it as a keyring.

>>Have I mentioned how much it bugs me when FIM animators use white to highlight? That's an amateur error and it looks tacky, even if some fans praise any inclusion of shading.
>I don't think you've mentioned it to me before, but FiM aren't the kings of shadows. The shadows under all the ponies are round like a football, trees and mountains have no shadows, and lighting in general is like an early 00's PS2 game.
No shadows is one thing, and simplistic shadows I can let pass, but BAD shading? I can't find the white highlights right now, but in opening eps and finales they tend to whip it out, and it's just... Sloppy. I know animated is more difficult than still images but if they can put any shading on them I'm sure they could do it better than that.

>But the frog is there too... Maybe the frog is a recurring character?
I'm leaning towards familiar at this point. I want Lynn to have a froggy friend.

>>Ah, I'm looking forward to the next article IDing the ponies in this, I can't place blue-haired-orange (glaring at Will near the start) either!
>It's been a while since EMF was active with Filly, so I don't think we could count on him. But how would we be supposed to ID the Alicornator, among other odd-ones-out?
I'm not sure, normally I just look at the family trees... I'm thinking a chart more extensive than http://www.funtasiadaily.com/2013/10/filly-toy-post.html should be put together.
>It's part of why I saved these images, as name references, but my collection's pretty incomplete.
This is winding up my OCD!