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1017058 No. 1017058
Welcome to Fillychan, where everything Filly, Funtasia, or both, is what it’s all about. Whether you’re having high expectations for the show, are interested in learning more about it, or are just a random bypasser, we wish you welcome.

It’s basically a serial thread at Ponychan, and not really its own forum or board. For those who are primarily experienced with 4chan or general forums, quick step introductions are at >>1017061, and other than that, you’re free to post here and try to talk about whatever you find fitting.

Last edited at Thu, Jan 9th, 2014 06:31

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>> No. 1017061
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For those experienced with 4chan, but inexperienced with Ponychan:
-Rules on sex and violence are very unclear, but Derpibooru’s system is a good indicator. Safe is always allowed, Suggestive is virtually always allowed, Questionable is taking a big risk unless you know what you’re doing, and an Explicit will in most cases easily land you a ban or two. With rule-breaking pics, it’s often more likely to just have your picture deleted, unless it was clearly explicit.
-Anons are in the minority on Ponychan, but it’s perfectly good to stay anon. That being said, namefillies are usually more respected in serious conversations, and many anons on Ponychan has built up a bad reputation due to behaving like they would on 4chan.
-Conversational criticism associated with 4chan, like “Kill yourself”, are really bad arguments on Ponychan, and should be avoided. Usual talking and behaviour on this site is often like you would behave with a group of good friends around you in real-life. That being said, surprisingly many 4chan memes are fair to use due to being common enough to be recognised as memes, such as the “What the fuck did you say about me?” US secret soldier copypasta.
-It is perfectly allowed to criticise mods and admins, though a handful of them don’t like being insulted directly.
-There are no regulations on bad language at all. However, the more common a term is on 4chan, the higher the chance it’s wordfiltered on Ponychan. Also, overuse of bad language is often frowned upon.
-There are no regulations on whole kinds of content. Ponies are as you can imagine always accepted, but there are also no rules against general furry content. Even Finnish memes are usually allowed, though a few words may or may not be on the spambot temporary ban list if written in text.
-No regulations on image replies. An image post and an imageless post count equally much towards the autosage limits.
-If you’re missing some 4chan X features, you could try activating Ponychan X in the Settings page (no Greasemonkey required) and see if they are there.

For those experienced with forums, but inexperienced with imageboards:
-Instead of smileys and avatar pics, most posts have a free-choice picture attached to them, to indicate facial expressions, recurring avatars, or just to show a relevant pic. Screencaps from telly and movies, and art of any kind, works equally well. Build up a good collection of pics and off you go. Though you can choose not to have an image attached to a post.
-Topics are much less set in stone, and derails are often fair game. There’s also more opportunities to strike up a normal conversation, or a conversation spun off from another post.
-There are no regulations against double-posting and so on, as long as it isn’t blatant spam or goes on long enough to be a major annoyance. The most prominent effect of this is “image dumps”, where one poster quickly shares many pictures he have, at the rate of one image per post.
-No regulations on language, which means that there’s very few words that will land you a “spambot” autoban, and the few that does generally doesn’t make sense.
-No log-ins or accounts are required. Just choose any name (or even be anonymous), and a password in case you need to delete a post, and you can post.
-If you notice that a word or two in the post you wrote isn’t what you remember that they were, it’s very likely a wordfilter. Ponychan is very fond of them.
>> No. 1017141
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http://ponycountdown.com/
Advertising Fillyized
>> No. 1017163
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>>1017141
Quirky. And good.

I remember a while ago when 4chan boards made comical ads to annoy the boards they were aimed at. I remember especially an ad on /a/: "MLP: Just like your Chinese cartoons".
>> No. 1017174
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>>1017163
Also Fillyized
>> No. 1017183
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>>1017174
Something tells me the "Who did this?" thread at the bottom of that pic didn't go over well on /mlp/.
>> No. 1017548
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>> No. 1017565
There's (probably) only about 3 months left in the pre-S1 hiatus, and it's been about 3 months since the trailer was released. We're halfway there.
>> No. 1017570
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>>1017548
I am serious, and I'm not from a Belgian city.

(That, and I could have needed some Leslie Nielsen pics to go along with this post.)
>> No. 1017589
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>>1017565
I have a feeling that those are going to be some long three months ahead of us. I've spent the last month and a half finding stuff for the 'Daily and the occasional /oat/ threads, but who knows how long those'll last.

But I've made this thread in order to provide a unified chatting place for the fandom, so maybe this could be the trick that'll get us through the waiting?
>> No. 1017870
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Beautiful.
>> No. 1019422
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>>1017870
Yes.
>> No. 1019808
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The new Filly toyline for 2014 appears to be "Filly Butterfly". I wonder if it will appear in the show.

Link: http://www.brand-licensing.com/DocPage.aspx?IzmLang=9&DID=20729&DIA=20729&QSI=1&OPS=0&LUR=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brand-licensing.com%2FProductNewsPage.aspx%
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>> No. 1019821
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>>1019808
I could read most of it while only needing Google Translate for some phrases. Filly Butterfly seems to be the newest addition in their "seasonal releases", and there's another reference to Swarovski in there, this time explicitly to their crystals.

Universal Releases Trends is a name I need to keep in backhand on my search for new sources, and Filly Funtasia are aiming for release on "other multimedia platforms" in addition to a global telly release. The Filly brand was also the third-bestselling toy brand in some way according to the article.

This was a pretty good find in my eyes, though Funtasia Daily usually only deals with stuff that is somewhat related to the show, though you could try submitting it to him still.

I'd guess that development on the show has advanced enough that I don't think Filly Butterflies will be found in the early episodes, but maybe in the later ones if we're lucky.

Last edited at Fri, Jan 10th, 2014 07:04

>> No. 1020384
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The year of the Filly is upon us.
>> No. 1020443
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>>1020384
Indeed. I remember in an /oat/ thread on the 30th that Positively Pinkie (Kind of a big but silly guy on /oat/, plus a mod) also mentioned that 2014 would be the year of the Filly.

Since I've made Filly threads on /oat/ between every 9 and 14 days, that reminds me that I should do a new one there sometime this weekend, on top of what I'm doing here on /gala/.

(Something I should have added to the quick steps in retrospect, is that Ponychanners have a hard time telling different anons apart, so I may mistake anons for each other or completely new posters.)
>> No. 1020566
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I've never seen the show but I've heard a little about it.
Just wanted to wish you good luck with this new serial!
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>>1020566
The show is just a trailer (or two, depending on what you'd count) so far, and I wouldn't expect the premiere within at least two months from now.

And thanks. I'll need all the luck I can get with this serial, as it isn't based on a pre-assembled serial community. So far, it's pretty much just me replying to people passing by, so I hope to get regulars at some point.
>> No. 1022498
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>>1017163
>people reposting my art
Yooooo. I'm always open for drawfilly requests, but right now, I'm busy with work, so I'll only occasionally post here.
>> No. 1022543
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>>1022498
I can't even remember where I got that pic from, but I recall I saw it in a very recent thread and saved it. Do you perhaps have more art hidden away somewhere if you want to share? It's at least not on DA's Filly group now or on what I can remember from FillyRT, which are my 2 of my 3 main sources for new fanart.

I've never been good at requesting stuff from drawfillies, mostly because I can't come up with any good ideas to request.
>> No. 1022597
>>1022543
http://leahcinnamon.tumblr.com/tagged/my%20art
Here you go. Do you have a link to that thread?
>> No. 1022691
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>>1022597
Ah, now I remember having looked through your Tumblr before. I prefer to give the pics I save situational names instead of including artist names, and I couldn't see any connection between the name Four Leaves and anything else. That also meant that my gamble on using the pic in >>1022543 went much better than expected.

It was a thread on /oat/ about twelve days ago, and threads there bite the dust after about three days, so it's dead by now.
>> No. 1025125
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https://twitter.com/brbint/status/421983529887465472
What does it mean?

Also, here's a pic you probably haven't seen unless you browsed the /mlp/ threads (RIP in peace).
>> No. 1025169
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>>1025125
My money is on the Filly franchise (as a whole or just Funtasia) getting their own user/channel/profile on Facebook, Twitter, and perhaps one or two additional places.

And that poster provides some interesting background to >>1019808, and since I haven't seen it yet (I was lurking at /ffg/ about once or twice), here's some reactional steps to it:
>#1/#2 toys and girls? I thought it was the other way around with #3/#1. Maybe girls weren't just about girl toys here?
>I can assure they have an interactive website, and some apps with little to do, but "fan club, and online community"? Are there Filly toy forums out there, or are they referring to the Funtasia fans?
>"Commitment to brand platforms, including (...) confectionary". So, we'll see Filly candy in stores someday?
>An audience of 5-10 matches a TBI article mentioning they were aiming for 10-years old who grew up with Filly.
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>mine countenance whereupon
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>>1027333
>mine countenance whereupon
>> No. 1027693
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This week's /oat/ thread is currently on. >>/oat/38867078

Though it'll probably run some hours, I'm primarily mentioning this for archiving purposes so that people can catch its contents within roughly the next three days.
>> No. 1027954
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>>1019808
Found something
http://dracco.filly.com/us/butterfly/home/
The Butterfly collection already has a German and even an English page up. There's no "undefined" parts unlike the English Witchy page, which is still like that. The collections part has hover-over names for the characters to make looking through them easier.
>They have the same Flower, Heart, Sun, Leaf, Water, and Special groups as the other races/species
>Most of the "families" are just groups of friends
>Freya and Saz have a pet caterpillar named Pinky
All of this is reminding me of the episode Sonic Rainboom. If Nina or Scarlet had horns they'd remind me of Rarity's winged form further.
>> No. 1027970
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>>1027954
It only took them three days to get a website up and running? Good find, by the way.

The first thing I notice is that many of the butterfly fillies have very ordinary names. Jack, Nina, Emma, Victoria, Max, and a few others. The other is that they're fond of having caterpillars and moths as pets.

How big could they be? Are they far smaller than the other Filly types (in spite of Elves and Fairies standing at a regular height), are all the types the same height (which would make the Butterfly pets very small), or are all of them very tiny?
>> No. 1027972
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filly fantasia!! filly fantasia... ah ah ah ahhhh
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>>1027972
Filly Fantasiaah... I used to wonder what crystal magic could be~
>> No. 1028037
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>>1027970
The ordinary names are something, there's no lack of names they could possibly use whether it's European or English, so that's a bit odd. Maybe because it'll be one of the first Filly Collections to come to the US so they're using more relate-able names. But then again, more fantasy sounding names should hinder the market for little cutesy figurines like these. I just don't know.

The Butterfly Fillies could be smaller than the other Filly races, it would make the Filliverse more interesting, but I doubt it. The possible huge size of the pets could just be chalked up to "It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit!"
>> No. 1028288
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>>1028037
I think Filly's American toy release will focus on the early brands and then what was released after that, instead of skipping straight to the new stuff. That's how very many foreign broadcasts of American telly shows work, and I think the early American FiM blindbag releases worked that way.

So a 40 centimetre tall and metre-long (1'4''-ish and 3'4'') caterpillar could be a thing? Strawberry Shortcake BBA had a centipede thing higher than the girls, and much, much longer, but in that show the characters were like 6cm tall anyways.
>> No. 1028959
>>1028037
Fuck, just seen it. Way too late to edit. Meant: But then again, more fantasy sounding names shouldn't hinder the market for little cutesy figurines like these.
>> No. 1029937
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>>1028959
I had to read through >>1028037 a few times, but I came to that conclusion in the end.

Maybe the franchise is attempting an Aerith and Bob [tvtropes.org] as a whole, and either ran out of unusual names for a while, or wanted more balance between common and fantasy names?
>> No. 1030378
>>1027954
These Breezies kinda look like those Filly Butterflies

http://www.equestriadaily.com/2014/01/breezies-mysterious-plushies-and-future.html
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>>1030378
I remember the Breezies well from back when I was looking through almost all of G3 Standard. I have a hard time believing that there'll be a FiM episode based on them, but then, I actually refused to believe that a FiM episode could be called Daring Don't until the very day it was broadcast.

But back to the G3 Breezies: I can see many similarities, especially with the antennas and muzzles. The Breezies had a more fairy type of wings, however, while the Butterflies look more artsy and butterfly-like.
>> No. 1032581
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http://dracco.filly.com/us/wedding/home/
Royal weddings confirmed for brawl.
>> No. 1032590
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>>1032581
At first, I was like "wut". Then I began to laugh. A lot. Then, when I took a look at their Filly Tree, I was back to "wut" again.

What else could I compare this with than Canterlot Wedding? Especially the promotion said episodes had? The "happy bride(s) and groom(s)" feeling feels pretty much exactly the same.

-The front page makes it hard to figure who's male and who's female, at least until I began looking at their attires. The Filly Tree explains it better, however.
-The Collection fillies doesn't seem to be clickable, which leaves their personalities (besides how they hooked up) in the blue.
-The story mentions a cake that changes flavour so that each guest gets their favourite flavour. If I got a brownie-carrot-strawberry-ish cake, I'd almost want to go to their multi-wedding just for that.
>> No. 1033334
They should do Space Fillies as part of their collectible toys some day, that would be awesome.
>> No. 1033361
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>>1033334
I wonder what those'd be. Could they be astronauts, creatures living in space (or on a moon), scientist-ish fillies at a planet observatory, or maybe an invading/coming-in-peace group from somewhere else ("Magic Fillies from Outer Space")?

Also, I actually have an art request at this point if you're looking for something to do: I request an interpretation of how the Magic Mirror looked like before he became a mirror.
>> No. 1037435
>>1033361
I actually think the Magic Mirror was once a human. Including Battiwigs. Transformed humans. That's probably a shitty headcanon, right? Right now I'm still busy, but I see what I can do tomorrow. If not human, then more like a huge human-shaped fire that can change form at will. I think the joke will be that without the mirror, he's super OP but he's trapped in it and has Battiwigs do all the work because he can't move.
Some site mentioned he has the objective to steal magic. He probably wants to steal enough magic to break the mirror curse and return to his old evil overlord form.
At the very least, in the trailer he seems strong enough to slap Batti out of the window with his magic.

For the Space Fillies, I thought more like aliens living on a tiny planet, or a big space station that has Fillies from all kinds of places visiting and having fun together, including from Filly Funtasia. One could easily work in Magic, the Fairy King in there, since his magic is supposedly the "most powerful in the universe" according to the site, which is oddly specific. He would power the space station and this is also why he only visits Fairy Kingdom once a year. His "dark ship" mentioned in his bio that comes from "far realms beyond the magical land" could also be a space ship.
>> No. 1037462
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>>1037435
It's certainly an odd headcanon, but then, what shows are there that doesn't have headcanons involve at least aspects of a post-apocalyptic human society?

>He probably wants to steal enough magic to break the mirror curse and return to his old evil overlord form.
I'm pretty sure too it could be something like that.

>At the very least, in the trailer he seems strong enough to slap Batti out of the window with his magic.
Wasn't Batti slammed against a white wall on the outside? Could work if the dark room's window led out to a corridor, but my guess is that it's an explosion (or other force) caused by something involving the episode's climax.

>Right now I'm still busy, but I see what I can do tomorrow.
Interesting to note, is that an up-and-coming (and still quite established) artist decided to draw that request too yesterday, the result of which (or one-half of it; the other half just had a different cape colour) is behind the pic spoiler in case you want to wait with seeing it until later. The /oat/ thread I linked in this thread some days ago lasted... longer than expected, so that's where she's been at. Keep this artist name in mind: Time Lord.

The Space Fillies idea sounds good, but it could get strange if the Fairy King was in control of two distinct types at the same time. I imagine everything from loyalty conflicts to in-universe conspiracy theories coming from this.

Last edited at Fri, Jan 17th, 2014 09:15

>> No. 1037651
>>1037462
I'd like it if Magic is sort of a black sheep under the specials, I think he's the only male, he constantly leaves his kingdom (in comparison to most other rulers who at least visit it once a month or even throw parties). It doesn't have to be him who is the ruler of the Space Fillies, he could have just romanced the Space Queen or something like that.

I don't really think post-apo, I just mean humans or human-like beings in a sort of fantasy setting. As long as we don't go modern, they are not that out of place.

I do think Batti was slapped by the magic. If you look closely before he slams into the wall, he comes out of a window where the same stool the Wizard was leaned on is locked onto the window, and when he tries to sit up, little stools fly around his head like that traditional "birds flying around the head" visual gag, suggesting that the Wizard moved the stool with his magic and slapped Battiwigs outside with it. I could be wrong, of course.
>> No. 1037654
So far from the specials we have:
"Pearl", greedy Mermaid Empress who has hidden a giant treasure somewhere down in the sea.
"Jewel", the teleporting princess of the elves. To no surprise, she channels Galadriel and lives in a giant tree palace.
The ice unicorns either have no ruler or listen to Princess Sparkle.
"Sparkle", the cute princess of the unicorns, who spreads harmony (!!) and likes to throw parties more than anything. In FF, she's the headmistress.
"Magic", the Fairy King and an alicorn (Fairy+Unicorn) who only visits once a year and is said to hold magic more powerful than anyone else in the universe.
"Crystal", for once not a ruler but a mysterious princess who shows up at all the big parties and gives out all her cash but nobody really knows who she really is.
"Abra" and "Cadabra", the twin witches and rulers of the Witchies. While Abra is a good soul, Cadabra is morally ambiguous and loves to pull pranks, sort of a Celestia & Discord deal here. Together, their magic might be even stronger than Magic's.
Ice Elves either also have no ruler or they listen to Princess Jewel.
"Scarlet", Princess of the Filly Butterflies. She can magic flowers out of nothing and she has pretty wings. So far the least impressive out of the specials.
>> No. 1037795
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>>1037654
Judging by a look at the Filly website's 3 big types, and for the sake of another point of view, using another language translation in case there's differences (After all, it'll be translated from German either way), I can find some interesting stuff about the specials:

Crystal seems to be from a faraway country too, and plays on the Cinderella effect by disappearing "before midnight". I imagine her as a nobody in the daily life, and maybe she has a double-life?

Sparkle is formulated as "sprinkling harmony down on everyone who's coming to Crystalia", so harmony appears to be a physical substance there, or at least a spell.

Magic is however only mentioned as "sailing from the kingdoms on the other side of this magical land/country", but it's a bit strange that the Fairy King barely bothers being in the kingdom he's the top chief of. Perhaps he's the offspring of a unicorn and a fairy, and that he's in Unicorn Land most of the time?
>> No. 1037846
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Okay, taking a look at Universal Trends [www.universaltrends.de]' Filly selection (Should be at the link's front page), which is also in German, they declare that "Two brand-new Filly themes starts off the magical Filly Year in 2014 at Universal Trends".

The only things that could be considered newsworthy, is that Filly Wedding is written as "Filly Winter Wedding" here, and that the Filly Butterfly brand appears to be scheduled for a February release. And the implications that there will be more than just those two brands later this year.
>> No. 1040813
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http://www.funtasiadaily.com/2014/01/drawfilly-5.html

ha ha time for ranting in the comments

Also, I just noticed there hasn't been a Cedric pic since Drawfilly #1. Poor Cedric.
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>>1040813
I took at look at his two comments about 1 1/2 hours ago, and I was about to write a step-by-step response to where he was wrong (including my perception that Tales and G3 has its fans, that I think that FF would appeal more to fans of girly shows in general than those who are only fans of FiM, and that not everything has to follow FiM's recipe), but I couldn't get over that he accused the site of using fake Blogger accounts, so he'd very likely disregard anything I'd have to say anyway.

I think Time Lord will like it when she see the Drawfilly.

Good luck going in. You'll be remembered as a brave soul who went the whole nine yards for his companions I can't imagine there'll be that much to discover apart from a few stores and minigames, but if you find anything interesting, that'd be great.

My system for finding new info, is to find new companies associated with an already-known Filly thing, and then look up the company on Google. I haven't found many such sources in the past week or so (in part due to the /oat/ thread lasting four days), so it could take some time before I find really good information again.
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>>1040876
Yep, mostly a bunch of minigames. The translation is kinda weird on them.
>> No. 1041723
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Well, you did tell me to draw him like I wanted. Now I've drawn him as a sort of half-naked wrestler Pan knock-off. I expect you to take full responsibility.
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>>1041723
Okay, I take responsibility. I didn't really expect something that looks like it was in Dragonball Z, with wings and shoulder plates taken from a Transformer, but at least you did give it a good shot.

>>1041110
So the boat has a magical power?

>Very Filly xxx
Something sounds very wrong with what I assume to be another user's Filly name. Or maybe "xxx" is just a placeholder or name-hiding like they have in anime? Or perhaps booze? When things can get strange, I can just as well assume it's something less strange.

And the toys in the playroom doesn't lend much faith to the Fillys' matureness.
>> No. 1043332
>>1042859
Maybe they are referring to Magic with gender neutral pronouns. Like "it". "It" is using "it's" magical power. Magic in the german version of that site has gender neutral pronouns too, if you're interested.
>> No. 1043346
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>>1043332
Hmm... that does make sense. I know that "it" would be used for most animals (I forgot that the fillies were technically animals), and in cases where gender is not important.
>> No. 1046824
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>>1040876
I am VERY chuffed to have made it to the top of the DrawFilly! Feel a little bad for knocking DexHaiken's pic down (I really like that one) but that kind of makes it even more flattering! Shame that the comment sections attracted a "stop having fun" person but ah well. I'm still proud!

>>1041723
So different from mine! I wonder if we'll be told much about him in the first ep...

>>1041110
Heehee, subtly advertising the castle playset there!

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>> No. 1048412
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Regarding something vaguely news: Regarding FillyRT [twitter.com], the last tweet of any kind I can see there was 12th of January. Is the bot broken after a Twitter interface change, or has there really been no tweets about Filly for ten days (last retweet was the 11th)?

I know that at least one of Suhosin's Filly tweets (>>1025125) aren't on RT, but if the bot isn't actually broken, that'd be a very bad sign.

>>1046824
>I wonder if we'll be told much about him in the first ep...
I think they'll merely explain his basic motives early on, and maybe save his backstory for a flashback or a focus episode. That's at least what such shows tend to do (Cedric the Wizard in Sofia the First, and practically every early villain in Naruto, from what I remember).

>Heehee, subtly advertising the castle playset there!
Castle playsets are everywhere these days. FiM has several high-profile sets, enough so to have the Canterlot Wedding and Magical Mystery Cure promotions revolve around them. Maybe Filly Funtasia will have episodes revolving around major playsets too?
>> No. 1049153
>>1046824
Meh, I'll probably draw a proper horse version of him one day.
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>>1049153
Well, more art and interpretations can only be a good thing.

Since I'm testing the up-arrow quick reply for the first time in my Ponychan career after 2 years 2 months, as I've read that it's a good problem fix (I couldn't see your newest post inside the thread, only on the board front page), this may be an overly filler-y post, and I'm aware of that.
>> No. 1054674
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>>1040813
Compilation for great justice. Bronies complaining about shows being too girly will always feel very strange to me.
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>>1054674
I'll give a good thumb up to that (and a save), especially considering the wide range of sources there.

Looks like many bronies don't want to go to the girly-gala-guck yet.
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>>1054740
>>1054674
Phah.
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>>1054743
Wheeeeee. is it sound effect time or something like that?
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>>1054806
Clop.
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>>1054807
Okay, I admit to being less skilled in English onomatopoetica than I should, so what does "phah" mean?
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>>1054895
It's like this.

Only doing a worse job of suppressing it.
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>>1054917
Ooh, now I understand. I thought semi-suppressed laughter was more "Phwee-hee-hee". And the internet couldn't provide an answer either, and in fact seemed to indicate it as a kind of annoyance.

So now that it's solved: Are you (or anypony else) tough enough to go to the girly-gala-guck? Or something? It's a Filly news drought right now.

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>> No. 1054939
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>>1054934
Dude, I'm the guy who spent hours trawling through girly frilly frou-frou stuff to name most of the minor ponies from the trailer. I think I'm effeminate tough enough.
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>>1054939
On the topic of that, did you ever finish looking through the trailer for fillies to name? It'd be great if it got finished, and you'd be almost guaranteed coverage on Funtasia Daily and the next /oat/ thread.

I spent a large chunk of November and December crawling through the internet for new Filly information and sending it to Soth, to the point where I was at a specific point involved with six of the ten articles that was then on 'Daily's front page.
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>>1054996
I was pretty thorough. I don't think there were any more to name. I could try and have a look tomorrow, if you want.
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>>1055001
It can't hurt taking a look at what little is remaining of the background fillies. I think there's perhaps only one or two group shots left to cover.
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>>1055022
Okay. Understood.
>> No. 1057662
>>1054674
I personally think they should go all out in their traditional girliness. Make it their strength. Make the villains try to best the fillies in ballroom dancing or something. An episode entirely about Princess Sparkle throwing a huge and crazy tea party (since it was mentioned she likes parties). I'd like something like that. My favourite FiM episodes are where they do stuff like that. Like that fantastic episode in season one where Rarity sews dresses for everyone.
>> No. 1057680
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If we're on the topic of background fillies, does anyone else like the Witchies' designs as much as I do? They also have by far the most interesting descriptions. Is anyone interested in me translating them?

My personal favourite is Morgan, the "Charmer of Hearts", who is more like a stage magician, whose speciality is fireworks and who is apparently good with kids. He is a family father, has a pink cape with hearts on it and fabulous hair. What a charming fellow.
The whole show could be about the Witchies and I would be very content with that.
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>>1057680
>best fillies
>not elves

for laef pls

But please, translate a few.
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>>1057683
Here's one family I especially like. I'm not translating literally, I'm summing up, and I'm being sort of loose with information, guessing some stuff that is implied.

The Water Witchies are one of the most mysterious and shy families of Zimsala.

Tarot is a loving single mom with three daughters who makes her living by telling fortunes and divination. She is also in possession of some rather old magic books that have spells most Fillies today don't know about.

Her three daughters, Vicky, Aqua and Hexie range from the affable to the troublesome.
Responsible sister Vicky tries to follow in the steps of her mom and studies Astrology, though she sucks at it and her predictions are often wrong in hilarious ways.

The bubbly Aqua is a (most likely self-appointed) "protector of frogs" who owns a pet frog. A hopeless romantic, she tries to get her personal prince by kissing every frog she sees. Her wish hasn't come to fruition yet.

Hexie is a troublesome teen with the ability to make it rain - she loves to use it to prank others, especially fellow Witchy Sabrina.
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>>1057732
>responsible
>bubbly
>troublesome
Holy shit, it's the Powerpuff Girls!
>> No. 1057764
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>>1057662
I'm fond of girly shows too (Strawberry Shortcake BBA, for one), but going girly in a traditional way has doomed such shows in the public eye before. I also don't think Will would be a good match with girliness unless they're turning him somewhat feminine (like Spike) or the token guy who's friend with the girls (Terence from Disney Fairies). But a Princess Sparkle tea party gone crazy sounds tempting to me.

My favourite FiM episodes tend to involve comedy, silliness, and those who has had great performances in the Nordic dubs. The Show Stoppers has traditionally topped my list for those reasons.

>>1057680
>>1057683
I must say that I have a soft spot for the Fairies and Elves.

How good are you (Four Leaves) at German? I think I've recently gained an uncanny ability to read German with only a sparse need for Google Translate; at least I concluded on that when I read the Filly Butterfly announcement at a point where it was only in German, so I could translate too or together, though it goes into "loose translation" territory at times. The pic I have was an attempt at some Ice Unicorns in late October.
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>>1057764
I AM german. Also they are already doing that with Will. "I got the bow", remember?

This here is the dreamy Heart Family who is well versed in all matters of love.

Rhea, Morgan's wise wife, is the reference person when it comes to love matters. She has the uncanny ability to communicate with others through her thoughts alone - and that even at a great distance.

I already talked about Morgan. The couple has two daughters, one who is already a young adult and a child.

Alice (who has a fantastic design, look at her) seems to prefer the company of her pet cat to that of other Fillies and writes a novel about Zimsala and its history.

Alice's beloved younger sister Xenia is a very young Witchy who has received her magical cape a few weeks ago, meaning she is still trying to experiment with her magic, leading to quite a few misadventures.
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>>1057774
Ah, that explains your German skills. And I didn't have a good enough memory to remember the bow line, though now that I think of it, I think it went "Here's the bow", instead of "I got the bow" which I've only seen in a Will the Filly pic.
>> No. 1057958
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>>1057662
I'd rather they mixed it up a bit, but if they are "girly" I hope they at least dodge some clichés. It's hopeful that Bella's dad seems protective and ready to take action rather than being another absent/useless adult in a kids' show. FIM even implied that Twilight and Shining's parents just watched the wedding events with Chrysalis...

Still, pretty confident I'll be watching even if the plots are too girly for my liking!

>>1057680
>>1057732
>>1057774
The Witchies DO seem cool! I like how the families have matching capes. And their weird quirks. Frog kissing? Weirdo, haha...

>Xenia
Oh, she's in a Funtasia pic I started but haven't finished! It's another horse-anatomy one* but I'm having trouble choosing an art style for the colour... I'm hoping it'll look good, though. It's a panel from one of the comics.

* My horse anatomy only started coming out remotely right recently, so I'm pretty into it right now, heh.

>>1057764
My impression was that girliness doomed itself with a lack of variety. There's nothing wrong with liking lighter things, but my experience with "girly" content is that it tend to have less fantasy (even if it's in a fantasy setting), predictable plots, less inspiring main characters, and can avoid even mild adventure in favour of friend group drama, which I've never been a fan of. These things aren't absent from cartoons that aren't girl-specific, but they rarely have them all in the same ep, and certainly not every ep (unless it's a dull cartoon).

There's no reason that even light plots based around everyday scenarios shouldn't be fun and interesting (e.g. Chi's Sweet Home is adorable), but series aimed at girls have tended to consistently miss the mark for me. Maybe "girly" series do tend to mix it up more than I've seen, but early impressions matter, and I don't think it's done anyone any favours for that type of series to supposedly be gender-specific rather than having its own gender-neutral genre.

...All this talk of Funtasia made me want to get a second Filly toy but my local toy shops have at some point sold out! ...I wonder if they'll do a non-felt-covered set if the show takes off, I've always been much more of a plastic fan...
>> No. 1058196
>>1057958
You got to look at it this way:
Let's say some new cartoons are being funded.
Being funded are 100 cartoons aimed at boys and 20 cartoons aimed at girls.
Out of these 100 boy cartoons are tons that are cliché'd, unfunny, with bad animation and bad writing. So there are about 20 good cartoons from those 100 boy cartoons. These are the ones that are usually hyped and watched by lots of people, or praised. Thanks to that, the people who fund the shows get the impression that boy shows are more popular.
Now, getting to the girl shows, we have only twenty available. Instead there being lots of cartoons where some WILL be inevitably good, having very little cartoons limits the general possibility of there being several good cartoons. Out of the twenty, lets say we have 15 that are cliché'd, unfunny etc. Five cartoons that are at least decent or good. You will remember twenty boy cartoons being good and five girl cartoons, and you start to associate girliness with cliché'd writing. Because lets say you watch some of the boy cartoons, but you'd rather dig some girl cartoons. So you take what is available. In your quest to new girl cartoons you watch all twenty of the girl cartoons, even the bad ones. It's not like you can pick the cartoons you really like out of many. You have to take the ones that are there, regardless of how good they are.

Now, let us talk what a good cartoon is all about. A good cartoon has good writing, it has love and thought put into it. Now regardless of your source material or your audience, with the right execution everything could be awesome. Using the example of the tea party, Princess Sparkle's tea party could be incredibly dull if not executed right. Shonen battles are usually long and drawn out and boring. But the tea party could also be fun, with lots of crazy and different guests and party games and colours and floating seats. The shonen battle could have interesting strategies or is just animated in an interesting way or it would get resolved in a comedic way. Another example of this is a recent anime called "Girls und Panzer". The premise is cute moe girls fighting against each other in tanks. Believe me or not, it's a fantastic show that uses actual battle strategy. The same show could have been just scantily clad girls doing weird fanservice poses on their tanks. Instead, the studio poured all their love into that show.

So basically, what I'm saying is that with the right execution, anything could be great. And doing traditionally girly, or just generally girly things with that thought in mind, it could be fantastic. Friend drama or avoiding adventure in a show where adventure is a premise is not good writing. The characters wearing fluffy frilly flower dresses is not related to that.

I apologize if I typed weird somewhere, it is rather late.
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>>1058196
>more cartoons aimed at boys
>statistically better chance that they get good cartoons
Definitely agree that this is part of the problem. Also that certain genres (e.g. adventure) are very rarely aimed at girls.

>So basically, what I'm saying is that with the right execution, anything could be great.
I wasn't trying to dispute that.

Speaking of cartoon gripes, one thing that's bothered me ever since I was a kid is the obsession with humans/humanoids in stories. Even wild fantasy/sci-fi stories apparently need a human/oid protagonist! And when non-humanoid animals do star, it's nearly always in a pseudo-real-life world (i.e. Earth with talking animals), humans will be there, death is likely, and guilt-tripping elements will be throughout (e.g. pollution, hunters, death by car), so. Little-me couldn't just watch a fantasy epic starring non-humanoids like she wanted to: She had to either watch humanoids or be reminded that animals die and people control/kill animals. The defence that "that's life" carries little weight when none of the humanoid characters ever got killed by a car, developed cancer, etc.

Finally, I'm an adult and there will soon be not one but TWO current animated series starring non-humanoid horses in magical fantasy worlds without a human in sight! (If Funtasia does have humans then it's at least clear that the Fillies aren't pets.)

I'm chuffed.

Still nothing like that with the level of "travelling the land to fight evil" stuff that I've always been drawn to, but horses having tea parties is automatically a billion times better than badly written stories of humans travelling the land to fight evil.

Funtasia would have to be really, really, bad to stop me watching it. Also, I managed the first season of How To Train Your Dragon (which was surprisingly poor) for just the music, happy film memories, and Toothless' croons, and HTTYD S2 has been shockingly better in every way, so even if Funtasia's S1 is really dreadful, I'll probably still try S2.
>> No. 1059596
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>>1058438
Thankfully, the cartoon business has changed a lot since the early 90's (I presume that's when you grew up). MLP G1 had humans, Moomin was probably humanoid, MLP Tales was humanoid in all but design, and Wind in the Willows wasn't fantasy enough from what little I remember.

In fact, if "non-humanoid no-human fantasy story" is the only benchmark, even MLP G3 could count as an early pioneer. I also recall pseudo-examples like Zig & Sharko (no humans, but several mermaids in secondary roles and a Spongebob-like world) and several Lego-related shows of varying quality. And now we have FiM and Filly.

>Funtasia would have to be really, really, bad to stop me watching it.
I've got many pet peeves when TV and movies are involved, but as long as Funtasia doesn't rampantly go against its toy sources by portraying the youngest Fillys as infants on a regular basis, it simply can't fail for me.

>Also that certain genres (e.g. adventure) are very rarely aimed at girls.
I also don't see any premises based on martial arts or high-tech inventions aimed at girls either, which could have provided a fresh breath too.
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>>1059596
>Thankfully, the cartoon business has changed a lot since the early 90's (I presume that's when you grew up).
Late 80s/early 90s. I miss the crazy sci-fi of the 80s but I know that many of them just weren't very well made. Also, they were forced into spelling out clear morals at one point, which made even some of the good ones gain a patronising edge.

>MLP G1 had humans, Moomin was probably humanoid, MLP Tales was humanoid in all but design, and Wind in the Willows wasn't fantasy enough from what little I remember.
Ha, I always think of the Moomin stories as books... Its animated series were comparatively forgettable to me. WitW has one bizarre fantasy moment in the book but that's often left out and its characters are bipedal anyway.

Speaking of books, Watership Down is a book I should have sought out sooner but was put off by the film. Despite having humans in the world it's very much a fantasy epic starring rabbits making it more of a "hidden fantasy world" setting (as seen in Harry Potter, Weirdstone of Brisingamen, etc) but without the normal "human discovers it" premise. This was, however, rather played down by the film, which went so far as to add in a female rabbit JUST for her to be killed in one of the early scenes. I'm still think that, to be fair, The Hobbit films should have added in a female dwarf to get eaten by a giant eagle before the end of first film, but I digress. My key point is that it seems to be that, especially in TV/film, stories aren't valued unless they're either starring human/oids or starring animals and teaching "real life is hard for animals D:" messages.

>In fact, if "non-humanoid no-human fantasy story" is the only benchmark, even MLP G3 could count as an early pioneer.
Indeed! I mean, Santa was shown as human but he never actually appeared. I didn't watch G3 until relatively recently though...

>I also recall pseudo-examples like Zig & Sharko
[Googles] See, they looks quite humanoid to me. Standing on two legs and using their forelimbs to manipulate objects, with added thumbs. I don't know why this is my criteria, but animals having to rely on non-hands really appeals to me. Scooping things up with hooves isn't so bad, but sticking to means that match their biology (e.g. picking things up with their mouths) appeals to me a lot more.

>several Lego-related shows of varying quality.
?

>as long as Funtasia doesn't rampantly go against its toy sources by portraying the youngest Fillys as infants on a regular basis
That's still something that a good S2 could fix! Sometimes shows go backwards (e.g. Ewoks S2 was far more kiddy) but in recent years I've found later series are often better,

>>Also that certain genres (e.g. adventure) are very rarely aimed at girls.
>I also don't see any premises based on martial arts or high-tech inventions aimed at girls either, which could have provided a fresh breath too.
Aye! Still, we have the learning-to-kick scene in the Funtasia trailer, maybe martial arts is a thing at the school, or at least as some of the Fillies' hobbies. That or it'll be more of a one-off gag, like Apple Bloom's karate interest, but ah well.
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The posts are getting long enough for me to have a hard time keeping up with all the points raised, but I'll keep up as well as I can.

>>1059895
>?
I was thinking along the lines of Bionicle, Legends of Chima, and Hero Factory, which seem to have characters as some mix of humanoid and unnaturally-looking creatures, and especially Bionicle kept such stick to the "no humans" policy that they abandoned a cinema movie for it because all the scripts they got involved humans. They additionally had special magic-ish skills on occasions.

>That's still something that a good S2 could fix!
The closest thing I've seen to an "S2 fix" myself was Strawberry Shortcake BBA, which greatly toned down the stilted dialogue and had a continuous narrative spanning several weather seasons (But with that show, I would combine it with "S3 brilliance"). I'll keep it in mind, and if that system works for more shows, I could possibly check out Care Bears WtCAL S2 if it got one.

>I mean, Santa was shown as human but he never actually appeared. I didn't watch G3 until relatively recently though...
I started in December 2011 and spent a year and a half slowly going through it. They had Santa figurines in G3-Ponyville's toy store, if that is of any importance.

>My key point is that it seems to be that, especially in TV/film, stories aren't valued unless they're either starring human/oids or starring animals and teaching "real life is hard for animals D:" messages.
I realise now that I don't have much experience with the last category. There's possibly Bolt and Kung Fu Panda, but those would probably be counted as humanoid too (KFP had a full handful of characters standing on two limbs as the only humanoid things I can remember, though).

>Aye! Still, we have the learning-to-kick scene in the Funtasia trailer, maybe martial arts is a thing at the school, or at least as some of the Fillies' hobbies.
That would be awesome. Like Kickin' It, but with actual martial arts.
>> No. 1060126
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>>1059954
>The posts are getting long enough for me to have a hard time keeping up with all the points raised
Sorry, it's a fun topic and I don't often find other long term cartoon fans to chat to!

>I was thinking along the lines of Bionicle, Legends of Chima, and Hero Factory, which seem to have characters as some mix of humanoid and unnaturally-looking creatures
Really? Never caught them browsing channels and what I did see didn't encourage me to seek them out, but clearly I must look into them!
>Bionicle kept such stick to the "no humans" policy that they abandoned a cinema movie for it because all the scripts they got involved humans.
That's brilliant. It's nice when shows stick to their values.
>They additionally had special magic-ish skills on occasions.
Neat.

>>That's still something that a good S2 could fix!
>The closest thing I've seen to an "S2 fix" myself was Strawberry Shortcake BBA, which greatly toned down the stilted dialogue and had a continuous narrative spanning several weather seasons (But with that show, I would combine it with "S3 brilliance"). I'll keep it in mind, and if that system works for more shows, I could possibly check out Care Bears WtCAL S2 if it got one.
I like to think that it's because it's easier for shows to get feedback now (e.g. obvious fanart online), so if fans see potential then the makers are more likely to hear about it. In the case of HTTYD, I have no idea why the creators didn't invest more in film extras from the start (even the original merch was pretty poor), but at least they've pulled it together now.

>>teaching "real life is hard for animals D:" messages.
>I realise now that I don't have much experience with the last category.
The infamous Animals of Farthing Wood is one that stands out in my mind. They're forced out of their home by habitat destruction and, on their way to their new home, suffer many losses, e.g. hedgehogs on the road. Some gore was included, e.g. when the baby mice were killed by the shrike, AKA butcher bird, the thorn bush with impaled baby mice on it is shown. Yes, that's life, but it's not escapism and it gave me fairly mixed feelings about the show.

Other "life in the human world is hard for non-humans" stories include Bambi, 101 Dalmatians, Aristocats, and Lady and the Tramp. Generally the Disney ones have less guilt tripping though, so these are all films I like. Bolt counts, and Homeward Bound. Black Beauty. Ginga: Nagareboshi Gin and its sequel for one that practically forgot humans as it went on, haha... Legend of the Guardians. The Silverwing book series. There are quite a few, and generally I DO like them (animal fan, haha), but humans are nearly always included in the key problem/s and it gets a little repetitive.

Lion King may be humans-don't-exist tier. It's ambiguous.
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>>1060126
>Sorry, it's a fun topic and I don't often find other long term cartoon fans to chat to!
I think I know that feel too. Though I like a wide range of cartoons, it's usually cartoons that never really built up an internet presence, such as Black Dynamite, Fish Hooks, and at least three Disney Junior shows, in addition to Shortcake, Funtasia and various MLP's; so I've had a hard time finding posters to discuss such things with on /oat/ and /int/. Positively Pinkie was the closest I got in some of these cases, but even he consider me a cartoon-loving guy for a reason.

>Really? Never caught them browsing channels and what I did see didn't encourage me to seek them out, but clearly I must look into them!
Bionicle was primarily a DVD thing some years ago (which I completely failed to find out even existed in media form), but at least Chima began airing on the Nordic Nickelodeons some months ago. I didn't really like the modern-CN-esque type of action Chima and Hero seemed to use, but since I've as such watched very little of them, I may be wrong on their overall quality level.

>In the case of HTTYD, I have no idea why the creators didn't invest more in film extras from the start
I think that nopony could predict how popular the HTTYD movie would get, including Dreamworks. They probably expected a typical Dreamworks situation where it perfoms great in the cinemas and home releases and not much else, and thus only made basic merch. Instead, action-loving children and Pixar-favourising film feinschmeckers (Is that a legal loanword in English? It is so up here, at least.) praised it to the skies and beyond, so the movie remained popular with people after they were finished watching the movie.

>Generally the Disney ones have less guilt tripping though, so these are all films I like.
I watched Aristocats a lot when I was young, and Bolt gets much less love from people than I think it deserves. So that's for certain.
>> No. 1063255
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>>1060273
>>Sorry, it's a fun topic and I don't often find other long term cartoon fans to chat to!
>I think I know that feel too. Though I like a wide range of cartoons, it's usually cartoons that never really built up an internet presence
Many of the cartoons I like are popular, but whether I can find a good place to discuss them is another thing. The casual community and no-password needed style of image boards appeals to me but, unless I'm missing something, most cartoons don't have a board. DeviantArt's an option but not all artists are chatty (though some are, and that's awesome).

>I didn't really like the modern-CN-esque type of action Chima and Hero seemed to use, but since I've as such watched very little of them, I may be wrong on their overall quality level.
We can compare notes when I've seen some? It's fun to chat about even if we have different views!

>>In the case of HTTYD, I have no idea why the creators didn't invest more in film extras from the start
>I think that nopony could predict how popular the HTTYD movie would get, including Dreamworks.
"Kid bonds with and eventually rides a dragon as a story of self-discover and saving the day in an awesome way" is a film I've been waiting for ever since I was a little kid. Mostly I imagined the human as female but, in terms of the atmosphere and themes, HTTYD was pretty much exactly the type of thing I wanted and I loved it all over! I hear it's not much like the book it's based on but I do have that to read... Looking forward to it! The Pern stories were always too "females are so dark and edgy" for me.

Dragons are popular and Vikings are culty, they should have seen the love coming! Heehee... I'm trying not to get too hyped for the new film but it's so hard and I've only seen one trailer and some posters!

>feinschmeckers
Not a word I tend to use!

>>Generally the Disney ones have less guilt tripping though, so these are all films I like.
>I watched Aristocats a lot when I was young, and Bolt gets much less love from people than I think it deserves. So that's for certain.
Aye, Bolt was good! Besides, "pet misses owner" and "owner misses pet" are super effective against my feels, so it was easy for me to get invested.
>> No. 1064576
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>>1063255
>but, unless I'm missing something, most cartoons don't have a board.
I really believe that more cartoons should adopt the "dedicated imageboard" system that Ponychan have. A good Dynamitechan would have won me over years ago, and I can also imagine a Regularchan and a Danvillechan.

>I hear it's not much like the book it's based on but I do have that to read... Looking forward to it!
I read the first chapter of the book, and I can tell that it's completely different from the movie. Hiccup is different, the village's dragon system is unrecognisable, everyone's motivations are different, even the artwork is different.

>It's fun to chat about even if we have different views!
Maybe I should spend a while today checking out at least Chima in more detail myself? I think one of my little brothers bought DVD's of Chima and Hero last year, at least he does have a Hero DVD.

>Heehee... I'm trying not to get too hyped for the new film but it's so hard and I've only seen one trailer and some posters!
I began to regard Dreamworks sequels with hostility after watching Shrek Forever After and Madagascar 2 some years ago, so I admit to not having high hopes for HTTYD2. And so I haven't watched its trailer, so I can't really tell if I think this is going to be good or not.

>Besides, "pet misses owner" and "owner misses pet" are super effective against my feels, so it was easy for me to get invested.
I loved Bolt for completely different reasons. The soundtrack, the chemistry between the three main characters, the insight in the dubious American telly business, the colossal action sequences, various comedic things happening, and a tiny bit of drama that actually worked for me.
>> No. 1064811
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We haven't given up on Filly in this thread (At least I don't think we have), so here's some small-scale stuff I dug up from my more regular sources. Now I know what the "fan club" mentioned in >>1025125 and >>1025169 was partially about, as a message on the Filly site (when set to German) mentioned gift cards, vouchers and exclusive toy(s). Also, much like early December's Asia TV Forum, BRB is present at NATPE in Miami, presumably the one in Florida, this week, planning to show its selection of shows.

>>1063255
>>1064576
And now that I've watched a full episode of Legends of Chima, I can tell that the description I gave in >>1059954 was much more accurate than I ever thought it would be; though many of its characters were a tiny bit more humanoid than I remembered (but only a tiny bit). It got fantasy elements, and the "magic-ish" stuff really was magic-ish, as its unnatural elements had a proper explanation behind them (The "chi", and a flower that darkens the thoughts of those who breath its pollination). It basically reminded me a lot of what I know about Thundercats, but better.
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>>1064811
I've been monitoring a few screening websites, but there's no Funtasia screener from NATPE yet. I'd really like a new promo.

also why are pet shop daily's episode links so poorly updated, I was going to catch up on LPS s2
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>>1067316
>I'd really like a new promo.
So would I. But do we actually even know whether there's any new material they're bringing to the telly conventions? I don't think they've mentioned such, apart from "screening" their shows. Who knows?

Do you have access to Pirate Bay? If that doesn't work, you could check if any pony download sites also carries LPS '12 (I'm pretty sure Yayponies doesn't, but are there other such sites?).
>> No. 1070439
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>>1067316
I notice that the extra 46 seconds of the extended trailer is by itself on http://www.worldscreen.com/ (I'd link but the url gets long and the search is easy) under the title of NATPE Miami 2014 - Jan 27th, 2014 through Jan 29th, 2014, so... Could that have been it? Bit of a disappointment if so...

Still, if so, it could be taken 2 ways:
(1) BRB haven't realised that this has plenty of potential and so they haven't prioritised it.
(2) BRB do realise it has potential and so they don't want to give out too much before it's ready.

Shame BRB International don't update the news section of their site more.

>>1064576
>I really believe that more cartoons should adopt the "dedicated imageboard" system that Ponychan have.
Maybe there should be a general cartoonchan? Would be nice. Ah well, maybe they'll catch on later...

>I read the first chapter of the book, and I can tell that it's completely different from the movie. Hiccup is different, the village's dragon system is unrecognisable, everyone's motivations are different, even the artwork is different.
I'm looking forward to it!

>I began to regard Dreamworks sequels with hostility after watching Shrek Forever After and Madagascar 2 some years ago, so I admit to not having high hopes for HTTYD2. And so I haven't watched its trailer, so I can't really tell if I think this is going to be good or not.
I liked Shrek 4, it was 3 I considered the misfire... Have yet to bother with Madagascar 2.

>Thundercats, but better.
>better than best cartoon
Whoa, whoa, let's not get ahead of ourselves!

I'm still going to check these out when I have time. Having a bit of a busy week.

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>>1070439
I can't find that on Worldscreen to be honest, but I remember that those 46 seconds were first found on their sub-site Worldscreenings in late November last year. Is is that one you're talking about?

>Still, if so, it could be taken 2 ways:
It could go either way. I believe they have Funtasia as a top priority, but I doubt they expect it to become anywhere near a grand hit at par with the most popular US cartoons of today.

>better than best cartoon
>Whoa, whoa, let's not get ahead of ourselves!
That was something I didn't expect to hear from you, actually. I assume it's the 80's Thundercats you're loving? Were there by the way any differences between that and the CN reboot a few years ago?

>I'm looking forward to it!
If you've got a good library system in the UK, you could always borrow it for some weeks.
>> No. 1070652
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>>1070453
...Now I can't find it! Weird. Does look like the same one posted a while back on Funtasia Daily though, so nevermind.

>Filly Funtasia to Debut at MIP Junior & MIPCOM - WorldScreen.com
>www.worldscreen.com/articles/display/41070
>18 Sep 2013 - MADRID: Next month in Cannes Dracco and BRB Internacional are slated to premiere two full-length episodes of Filly Funtasia, a new ...
>>(Google search results, premier account needed to view the whole article)
I take it that reviews don't normally come out of events like that? Starting to appreciate how nice it is to have such a well-connected fandom for MLP...

>I believe they have Funtasia as a top priority
Why do you think that? I'm not saying you're wrong, but Invizimals is the one at the start of their reel, and listed first in a few articles about their upcoming projects... Might be the article writers' biases, of course.

>I assume it's the 80's Thundercats you're loving?
Aye! I think its early moments pretty much defined most of what I now like in cartoons.

>Were there by the way any differences between that and the CN reboot a few years ago?
Lots. They kind of stripped a lot of what made the original special and put it into a cliché "on a quest" formula... There were hints that it was set in the future of the original cartoon, but still. In the original, it was about the team getting settled on a new world, and Lion-O was the young Lord of the Thundercats whose body had grown to be adult whilst he was unconscious (for space travel), and so one of the core themes was him learning to be the adult he already was. In the reboot, he's kind of a whiny kid with brother issues... It wasn't terrible, just a rather generic "get a team: go on quest" setting, plus the third and fourth stories had morals that quite contradicted each other ("know when to retreat" and "never retreat, even when the odds are dire"). I didn't bother keeping up to date after that and, while I'll probably watch the rest at some point, I'm not expecting much other than maybe some cool locations.

I knew it wasn't going to be my Thundercats, but I wish they hadn't let it get generic. The original actually had a lot of unique elements to go with its classic 80s cheese and clichés.

>>I'm looking forward to it!
>If you've got a good library system in the UK, you could always borrow it for some weeks.
I do actually have the book as of Christmas, I just want to finish reading my current book first, which is taking a while (I think Charles Dickens' humour misses its mark for me).
>> No. 1070728
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>>1070652
>I take it that reviews don't normally come out of events like that?
Had it been a triple-A video game blockbuster, then it'd be probable. For a semi-indie European-conceived cartoon that virtually nopony had heard of at the time the September article was written, it wouldn't be given much focus by reviewers.

>Why do you think that?
As even though Invizimals was much closer to release (Having debuted two pilot specials in a few countries already) and are more likely to profit, they still take care to mention Funtasia as an upcoming show even in articles where it isn't in the focus. I think that would make it roughly considered on level with Inviz'.

>[the entire Thundercats paragraph]
Okay, it's obvious that you know a whole lot more about Thundercats than I'll ever manage to do. Maybe I'm even ineligible to compare Chima to it?

>I do actually have the book as of Christmas, I just want to finish reading my current book first, which is taking a while
I tend to have a very hard time reading through text-only books. I got one proper novel for X-mas and haven't even reached the page-25 mark in it yet. I have more of a tradition of abandoning such books: I bought Transformers Exodus in mid-2012, got about one-third through it, and then proceeded to treat it as a bedroom decoration for eternity.
>> No. 1075531
http://blip.tv/paradiseandfaries/master-commentaries-filly-funtasia-extended-trailer-and-bonus-content-6721715

This is the unfunniest thing I've ever seen. Fuck this guy.
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>>1075531
I laughed at exactly two jokes in the whole video (The one where Madeleine demands people to kneel before her, and the "Collect them all!" yells). The Disney song I can't remember where it came from, was a nice touch too. But pretty much all of his jokes in the trailer riff fell about as flat to me as a Danish grass plain:

>"A big strange meanie broke into school"
>"With yellow eyes!"
>A brony!

Though this looked more to me like a one-toy review than anything meant to really involve the trailer, I have mixed but reluctant feelings from it.
>> No. 1075877
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>>1075531
>>1075535
>"this is bad"
>all go watch it
...Okay, got bored during the trailer heckling, stopped after that. He seems a bit too intent on mentioning Bronies. It's like he's name-dropping us.

>>1070728
(Trying to space out my replies so that more Filly stuff can be worked in. Also, been busy and trying not to spend so much time staring at an image board...)

>>Why do you think that?
>As even though Invizimals was much closer to release (Having debuted two pilot specials in a few countries already) and are more likely to profit, they still take care to mention Funtasia as an upcoming show even in articles where it isn't in the focus. I think that would make it roughly considered on level with Inviz'.
Ah, fair. I hope you're right, it does

>>[the entire Thundercats paragraph]
>Okay, it's obvious that you know a whole lot more about Thundercats than I'll ever manage to do. Maybe I'm even ineligible to compare Chima to it?
You could be right, I have got a Lion-O vibe from the design of "Laval"... Still, I will get around to Chima sometime. In between staying on top of other series I watch and doing things other than watching cartoons, it can take me a while to try new stuff.

>>I do actually have the book as of Christmas, I just want to finish reading my current book first, which is taking a while
>I tend to have a very hard time reading through text-only books. I got one proper novel for X-mas and haven't even reached the page-25 mark in it yet. I have more of a tradition of abandoning such books: I bought Transformers Exodus in mid-2012, got about one-third through it, and then proceeded to treat it as a bedroom decoration for eternity.
Been there, especially in recent years, but I still intend to finish the 3 books I've started... All quite long, wordy, ones though (philosophy, a quartet, and Great Expectations). Maybe I'll take a graphic novel break in my reading, since those are starting to stack up too... So much to read!
>> No. 1075924
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>>1075531
>>1075535
That guy's videos are one of two things I've decided I won't post about. Just look at this, page after page of posting about his own videos just about everywhere: http://www.reddit.com/user/MadhogThyMaster

Oh, and here's the only NATPE pic I managed to find, didn't think it notable enough for the Roundup though.
>> No. 1075959
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>>1075924
>that pic
>that poster
>this cartoon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytMxwPE1KFE
HIPPOCAMPUS!
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>>1075959
Okay, reading into it, it seems too girly (+too much super-special human) for me. Stars a girl as a fairy, some other fairies, a faun-thing, and Onchao, the white "unicorn" (with wings), who is actually male. If anyone tries it, let me know how it is! Feel a little betrayed by the trailer that other sources imply the equines who aren't Onchao don't play a large part.

>Wish they made toys of Wasser!

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>> No. 1076039
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>>1075877
>He seems a bit too intent on mentioning Bronies. It's like he's name-dropping us.
He had a rather high percentage of brony jokes, but even within the trailer riff, he had some other vaguely-jokes, like "Hey, Pony Edward."

>>1075924
It took me a long while before I figured out what had changed in BRB's description (in the Roundup). Magic resulting in "unexpected results" sounds a bit like Fairly Odd Parents, especially if there'll be episodes revolving around fixing spells gone wrong.

>>1075959
I have some experience with Mia And Me, but I had no idea how to talk about it due to all the vital things in the show for which I didn't know their English names, due to only having watched the Norwegian dub. The very important trumpet that dissolves the bad woman's henchmen: Based on the "trompetuss" that I'm familiar with, would it be a trumpetore, bassooneer, trumpateer, anything close to that? All this is why I have almost never talked about Mia And Me on Ponychan.

The first time I saw the show, which was halfway through an action-filled episode, my reactions can be summarised with this [youtu.be]. But as I watched more episodes, the human subplot got more frustrating, and the many repeating elements such as the trumpateer(?), saving the unicorns and the water that shrinks the henchmen, got tiresome, and I threw in the towel with somewhere between 6 and 10 episodes watched.
>> No. 1076069
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>>1075987
>>1076039
Ah, so that's how things are. Okay, so the main story goes as following: A girl student goes to an exclusive school in Italy or England, and receives enemies (bullies) right off the bat. She comes across a quite magical book, and gets sent to Zentopia, as a fairy. She comes across a conflict between the good fairies and an evil witch-thing, involving land domination and something involving the unicorns. The fight takes some turns throughout the show and involves strategic missions to save the day. In almost every episode, she returns back to the human world when she's been in Zentopia for too long, something that is played on occasionally.

I'm not sure what to think of the show's qualities or problems, really. I simply can't come up with any.
>> No. 1076201
http://derpibooru.org/539664
Derpibooru has been enlightened
>> No. 1076355
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>>1076201
So her vision hasn't yet made a very noticable dent.

I'm surprised the picture has a mixed reception at 4-4, as Derpibooru was very negative to Filly last time I checked, though it was in early November.
>> No. 1084099
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Today's not-news news:

FillyRT has been fixed after three weeks of inactivity, which makes it a viable strategy for small-scale news again. I had given up on it after two of those three weeks, but it's back in my browser Favourites section now. The bot creator mentions that Twitter now "require SSL by default", which broke it.

And there's finally one new Filly pic on DA. The keyword here being 'one'.

(I was planning to write something about BRBPlay too as I speculate it'll be an online venue for watching Funtasia, but I couldn't even figure out if their Premium service was free or not, and there didn't appear to any Filly there so far.)
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>>1084099
For the sake of journalism, I decided to investigate BRBPlay Premium a bit.

They use a service called adnstream, http://www.adnstream.com/

Prices for BRBPlay Premium are 2.39 €/1 month, 3.99 €/3 months, 6.99 €/6 months.

Adnstream seems like it's only available in Spanish, but it looks like BRB have episodes of their series in English there. Most (or all?) of their series seem to be there, but some of the free episodes give me the message in pic related which is somewhat concerning.

I should probably go to bed soon.
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>>1085771
>pic
>Ups, we're sorry, this video can only be streamed in some parts of the world.
That alone removes a lot of the service's viability in my eyes, as I originally thought that BRB had worldwide rights to their own shows.

They also appeared to lack their other new show Invizimals there (and almost all of their movies for that sake), but I'm not sure if the selection I looked through really was Premium or merely a test selection.

€7 for six months would be pretty feasible for me if it actually gets Funtasia as part of the worldwide release, presuming that it actually can be streamed around the world.

I have a strict bedtime system to prevent confusion and tiredness when I'm on Ponychan. 22:00 is the nominal bedtime, 23:00 is very unusual for me to post later than, and 01:00 is full stop for the internet regardless of how long I'll actually be awake. But let's hope you got some good sleep nonetheless.
>> No. 1117073
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So, I found a portfolio by a 3D modeler which has a bunch of screenshots of Funtasia 3D models on a website for freelancers. (props, not character models) Do you think I can post that stuff on my website or is it supposed to be kinda secret? I'm pretty sure BRB keep tabs on my website and I don't want to get the modeler in trouble.
>> No. 1118710
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>>1117073
Just post them here first, I'm pretty sure they are not monitoring ponychan 24/7 and you can delete them if trouble arises.
Also, some art.
>> No. 1121138
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>>1118710
Looks neat!
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I've been taking a break from Ponychan for a few days (I blame the Cheese Sandwich episode and posters' families), with a hard break yesterday, so I'm slow to the punchline yet again.

>>1117073
>>1121138
So they've got food: nuts, sugar, eggs and guacamole(?). Shows a varied diet, and if eggs are vegetarian, then it looks pretty much like FiM's diet. Other than that, brooms, books, scrolls, and a key. Especially the key looks important, but in which way?

How has EqD handled leaks of this level before? So that we have something to compare to?

>>1118710
Saved, though I took the liberty to split up the four parts so I could use them as expression pics.
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>>1121312
I will fix and colour them too when I find some time, so you'll have more versions soon.

They key is a soft violet and doesn't seem too small, so it'll probably open a door, but not one where you'd need a rougher one, like prison or somewhere outside. At the same time, it doesn't seem to be a very complicated key. Perhaps to a forbidden room they otherwise can't access? Or some kind of big magical box. I'm asking myself more how they'll open a door with a key with those hooves.

Anyone wanna speculate why the bat wears a hero badge necklace?

Also, do you think they'll have Ced as the guy who doesn't want to be a prince or will they go against the descriptions and have him be a spoiled princeling?
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>>1121348
>I will fix and colour them too when I find some time, so you'll have more versions soon.
Sounds good. I was for some minutes pondering if I should colour them myself, but I decided against it.

The key looks like it could be practically anything. The castle's front doors, a diary, a "the keys to the city" kind of key, or a toy/treasure chest. And now I'm wondering how they'll pick up things at all, as neither their hooves or teeths seems fit for the job. Maybe every Filly has levitating powers like those that Will had?

>Anyone wanna speculate why the bat wears a hero badge necklace?
I doubt it's a hero badge, and if it is, that'd be for some old stuff he did. My guess is more at a magic amulet that has something to do with the mirror Wizard, possibly to exert the Wizard's old magical powers.

>Also, do you think they'll have Ced as the guy who doesn't want to be a prince or will they go against the descriptions and have him be a spoiled princeling?
He'll probably be enjoying the royal privileges, but they have no reason to play him as a token Prince Uncharming as was done with Blueblood. If anything, he'll want some breaks from the stiff royal life, but I don't think he'll want to abandon it.
>> No. 1123161
>>1121312
I checked, and they were a lot more willing to post leaks early on. (I'm pretty sure this thing: http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/11/blog-post.html was the Smile Smile Smile leak)

I actually just came to think of this post: http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/02/26-episodes-in-season-4-confirmed.html
The original source for that was actually someone's portfolio which makes the situation kinda similar. Looks like they eventually removed the source though so now there's no explanation at all for how they knew the episode count.
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>>1123161
Okay, then we have something to compare to, but I'm not sure what the best course of action would be.

The easiest answer is that since EqD has done it, so can you; but it's far from the only possible answer.
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>>1121379
>I doubt it's a hero badge, and if it is, that'd be for some old stuff he did. My guess is more at a magic amulet that has something to do with the mirror Wizard, possibly to exert the Wizard's old magical powers.
That sounds interesting, since the Wizard seems to be unable to move, maybe he transfers magic to his sidekick so he'll use it at certain points? If so, that would be a really interesting dependence system. Maybe he'll possess him too.
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>>1124126
I imagined it as working pretty much like a FiM unicorn horn. The Wizard concentrates, and magic effects shoots out of the amulet.

But the
>since the Wizard seems to be unable to move, maybe he transfers magic to his sidekick so he'll use it at certain points? If so, that would be a really interesting dependence system
idea sounds cool. I doubt more that there will be possesions, except possibly an episode or two where the Wizard tries out new methods to take over the world.
>> No. 1124527
>>1124162
If the villains are what I think they are, then I reeeally dig them. We have this powerful prideful guy who got cursed into that mirror and lost most of his power through that, and who probably can't move as well. He is entirely dependant on a bumbling bat, who is also probably the only person he can communicate with on a daily basis. It's such a situation ripe for comedy, I can't wait. So they'll going to have to steal magic to break his curse or bring back his powers. They could even throw some tension in there for the magic stealing to be relevant to keeping him alive. Anyways, Battiwigs is either insanely loyal or he was promised something in return for helping out, because him and the Wizard seem to have a rocky relationship with verbal abuse involved, and I can't imagine he would help him out just because he's bored.
Also, do you think Cupcakes will be the first episode or will it have a different introduction?
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I've been noticing a thing about us Funtasians (I assume that's still the fandom name) recently, which is that throughout four months of fandom-y stuff going on, there have been no Filly OC's on record, at the very least I have never seen a single one of them. Should somepony perhaps set a breakthrough precedent, or is it wildly lucky and preferrable that there aren't any?

>>1124527
>Also, do you think Cupcakes will be the first episode or will it have a different introduction?
It's got to be the first one. We did see a zoom-in on the castle in the first trailer, just like the zoom from far out in the second. I also saw an article [newtoybrands.co.uk] at NewToyBrands three days ago that mentions Rose arriving for her first day at the Academy, which seems pretty fitting with the second trailer, though I didn't include it in my most recent news report to Soth because it paled in comparison to the 'Q4 release' article.

I find myself agreeing with your ideas for Battiwigs and the Wizard, but my current thoughts of Battiwigs' motivations is that he may not be able to take a lot of jobs or do a lot of stuff (assuming that bats aren't highly respected by the Fillys), so that he'll do whatever work offers he can get, or that the Wizard has convinced Battiwigs that his plan is meant for good (for example the magic stealing allegedly being to create harmony), akin to what Megatron did to other Transformers throughout most of TF Prime. I don't really find either of my theories likely unless Black Dragon/Screen 21/whoever else the show producers are, wants to go a bit dark with the show, but with an audience officially maxing out at age 12, who knows?

Last edited at Sun, Feb 16th, 2014 14:08

>> No. 1125151
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>>1124853
Here, I have created an OC in five minutes. Her name is Milky Swirl, she's a Space Filly. She likes jazz music and superheroes. Here you go.
>> No. 1126309
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>>1125151
And so, the first one paved the way for her successors, ready to write history to be read for years to come...
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>>1123936
Turns out the modeler in question doesn't work for BRB anymore. I'll probably end up posting it since we're in such a content drought. (especially official content which seems particularly rare)

There was an /mlp/ thread two days ago though where a bit of OC was created.
>> No. 1126468
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>>1126431
I saw through a Google search yesterday that there had been a thread there the day before, but it had 404'd by that point. I don't really look through 4chan without a very good reason to do so, and the Filly thread there a month and a half after the FFG had collapsed took me by surprise.

Were there any highlights in it, presumably in the form of images?
>> No. 1147381
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>>1126468
There was a re-edit of this thing, and the gif I posted. Also...
https://boards.4chan.org/mlp/res/16473234
>> No. 1147482
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>>1147381
>dat link
This is going to get strange once it picks up after the few minutes of site downtime. I hope I remember to check the thread often before it 404's.

My Google search for new Filly stuff today proved for nought, except that there's a German Wikipedia page for the Filly franchise. Some of the sub-variants there were unexpected to see, including Pink Mermaid, Unicorn Silver, and Ice Witchy. They don't appear to have their own sites, though.
>> No. 1148000
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>>1147482
Those variants seem to be special editions, if I'm reading it correctly.

I decided to make that post, by the way.
http://www.funtasiadaily.com/2014/02/filly-funtasia-3d-props.html
>> No. 1148019
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Okay, so with this artpiece, we see Rose, Will and Lynn at a centre position, Cedric and Bella standing together and looking from the sideline, Princess Sparkle standing at a ceremonial balcony, and Battiwigs looking from above in a diagonal angle.

I can devise several options from this:
1) It's a late-in-the-season scene where the three Fillys are praised for something that we know absolutely nothing about.
2) It's a celebration for driving the premiere "monster" away. This is either after the truth is discovered, or a mid-episode scene where the three are believed to have saved the day already.
3) It's a party to celebrate the new students at the Academy. Sort of like the end to Police Academy I, but with no real training and probably (but not guaranteedly) without having to prove their skills in action. And probably without thanking the King of Norway too.
4) It's an off-road run, like a marathon or the Running of the Leaves. In this case, the colourful stripes ahead of the three are a start and/or finish line band.

I'd be mightily surprised if this is part of the first episode (or the pilot arc), even with option 3 sounding like it has a good chance inside my head.

Edit: >>1148000
I spotted the article about 45 minutes ago, so I took the cues to this post from it.

Also, as another detail I forgot to add to this post: Even though Cedric and Bella stand right next to each other, it would seem a bit early if anypony wants to use the shipping arrows on them, though bronies have used them for less than this. I am after all very conservative when it comes to shipping.

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>> No. 1149583
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And if anypony are still here, I also took a look at the Filly mirror site [www.myfilly.com] I saw a link to on the 'Daily.

There are some new front page banners there, both to new toy lines and the "Fun" category games (not much more than that), which makes me wonder if they're all-new site additions from right before or even in the middle of the mainsite downtime, or if they're old stuff that the mirror creation process(?) picked up on. The site music is also different.

But whatever the answer, I think this is some good mirror crafting, to the point where I've been found myself wondering if it's an official replacement URL.
>> No. 1149589
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Is there any news on when the series starts?
>> No. 1149599
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>>1149589
This [www.funtasiadaily.com] Funtasia Daily article from a week and a half ago (which indicates a Q4 2014 release) really doesn't look good, though the few Funtasians left try not to think too much about it.

I also know I've been really on overtime when it comes to the next /oat/ Filly thread, but I haven't found the time or confidence to do so yet.
>> No. 1149838
>>1149583
Since my filly.com account works on myfilly.com, I'm assuming it's some sort of official mirror.
>> No. 1149858
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New /oat/ Filly thread for those who are interested: >>/oat/38950771

>>1149838
Ah, so it turned out to be right. Can you access things like the minigames and the Filly realm map with your account too?
>> No. 1150198
>>1149858
Yep! Also, I seem to have found a mirror site for the toy sites: http://www.fillyprincess.com/us/unicorn/collections/

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>> No. 1150225
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>>1150198
I don't have any problems with the toy line links on the Filly site either, such as the British English link [dracco.myfilly.com] to the Princess line. The links I'm using are also using the Myfilly branding, so I really think this is the new thing.
>> No. 1151043
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By the way, I am still keeping an eye on this thread (and checking Funtasia Daily daily), just been pretty busy lately and don't have much Fantasia-y to add.

The possible long wait sucks, makes me wonder if they're timing it around something else, e.g. another BRB Internacional program.

Filly have sold out in shops around me, but I got a set of four (Caspian, Twilight, Willow, and Faye) because hype is fun. Need to dig up the filly (Cedric?) I already had, too... Not sure why my Toys R Us hasn't restocked them, though. They seemed to sell at a decent rate and were never on offer that I saw.

...Hopefully, if it is a long wait, they'll release a bunch of new clips and so on to get us back in the mood before the series starts!

>>1148019
"Starting at the academy" does sound likely, though I wouldn't rule out that it might be a celebration for them saving the day. Maybe a mix of both (e.g. if the school's temporarily closed whilst they sort stuff out)? Hard to say when we know so little about how the monster story will actually turn out.
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>>1151043
"Funtasia-y" even... I did say I was tired.
>> No. 1151720
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>>1151043
>...Hopefully, if it is a long wait, they'll release a bunch of new clips and so on to get us back in the mood before the series starts!
Indeed. With the whole FF thing presumably cooling down over the next months, they would really need a content defibrillator to re-awaken it when the premiere is approaching.

>By the way, I am still keeping an eye on this thread (and checking Funtasia Daily daily), just been pretty busy lately
Sounds good.

>but I got a set of four (Caspian, Twilight, Willow, and Faye) because hype is fun.
>Not sure why my Toys R Us hasn't restocked them, though.
I took a look through a medium-sized toy store in late November (as my Toys 'R' Us didn't have much of a Filly selection), and found that the four-Filly sets had abnormally small figures, as in smaller than a FiM blindbag. I also couldn't find any sets with Will or Bella.

>makes me wonder if they're timing it around something else, e.g. another BRB Internacional program.
Apart from Invizimals, I recall Dracco having plans for a zombie franchise (Could it be Zombie City?). But juggling multiple balls in the air ought to be feasible for all the companies involved in this.

>and don't have much Fantasia-y to add.
>>1151120
>"Funtasia-y" even... I did say I was tired.
If I had remembered more than two sketches from Disney's Fantasia movies, I'd probably have a joke to insert here.
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>>1151720
>But juggling multiple balls in the air ought to be feasible for all the companies involved in this.
I meant that they wouldn't want it to be overshadowed by something. Maybe 2014's fourth quarter looks like it doesn't have many other programs aimed at young girls airing at the time? Or, because it's a toy-based show, maybe they want it to be fresh and new at Christmas?

Lots of good shows have been cancelled because they got a bad time slot (e.g. up against something more popular), or didn't sell enough toys.
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>>1151859
While I don't think there's any shows that could overshadow it most of the year, I also don't really keep track of release dates for other shows unless it's Black Dynamite or Sheriff Callie's Wild West.

>Lots of good shows have been cancelled because they got a bad time slot (e.g. up against something more popular)
Maybe they do in the US, but that is however where all the cartoons are focusing their efforts. A show in Norway has to be outrageously poorly performing before getting cancelled, and the amount of S1 cancellations on the national NRK in the past five years that I know of, is only one.

>or didn't sell enough toys.
I remember a major part of Funtasia's demographic being those who grew up with the toys, who are by now at least 10 and are unlikely to buy horse toys just like that. So I think they can allow themselves some leeway on the toy sale focus.
>> No. 1152291
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>>1151908
Is it not airing in the US too?

Still, I've not got any explanations if those aren't it. Don't often see adverts coming out over a year in advance these days.
>> No. 1152455
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>>1152291
Oh, of course it'll air in the US too. I don't think there's any confirmations of it, but it's made with an American crew after all. What my argument was about, was that while the US has a tendency to cancel shows for being maybe 0.02 points too low, that all cartoons were aiming at the US market and could end up being subject to their cancelling tendencies. I'm not always good at explaining arguments.

If a show releases clips more than six months on forehand, it usually indicates an early pilot or an otherwise very early first episode. But since FF already has a full 26-episode Series 1 confirmed, that'd be unlikely at best with this.
>> No. 1153175
>>1152455
But it does already have finished episodes, no? Some were shown at an event in... September, wasn't it?

Edit: Yes >>1070652

Not that they can't delay regardless, it's just frustrating, haha...

Last edited at Wed, Feb 26th, 2014 19:03

>> No. 1153860
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>>1153175
So they premiered two episodes at Cannes?

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to producing the show, but once they've finished producing all 26 episodes, I don't think they have an excuse to not air them. I know US network telly has the concept of "mid-season replacements", but that won't apply to a delay from spring to late autumn.
>> No. 1156938
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This is pretty neat.
http://mmmgaleryjka.deviantart.com/art/Willow-inspired-plush-437217789
>> No. 1157061
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>>1156938
It looks more wooly than most FiM plushies I've seen, so that'll be a difference from normally. It looks better the more I look at it. He even got the muzzle right, though maybe a bit more distinction between the front and back hooves could work, though I'm not a plushie expert.
>> No. 1161268
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>>1156938
Ooh, nice! To be fair, the official plushes that I've seen mostly haven't been so bad, but I like the fluffy tail on that one!

>>1076039
Btw, left out my update for the other cartoon stuff before: I couldn't find Mia and Me episodes and could only find Chima in poor quality. The latter was very... Cartoon, as in jokes thrown in to break any chance of tension, and I wasn't won over by that. Will probably try some more eps but haven't yet.

...I need a better site for watching cartoons online...
>> No. 1162423
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>>1161268
>but I like the fluffy tail on that one!
When I look at it, it seems to be made out of a few pipe cleaners instead of a fluffy puffy tail. But then, I've never really felt or used any pipe cleaners in my life, so for what I know, they could be pretty fluffy.

>...I need a better site for watching cartoons online...
A good cable subscription, enough so to receive most children's channels, will always beat out online cartoon sites. And if cable doesn't work, there is a 40-60 chance (if it has aired in the UK a few years before) it's on Netflix. And if that doesn't work either, you'll likely have *hark*Pirate Bay*sneeze* as a remaining option.

>Will probably try some more eps but haven't yet.
I tried with episode 2. When I have a choice between multiple episodes, I try not to go for the first episode.
>> No. 1167129
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>>1162423
Looks far too fluffy for pipe cleaners to me...
>Bigger pic: http://mmmgaleryjka.deviantart.com/art/Willow-inspired-plush-437217789
Those would be some amazing pipe cleaner skills! I think it's just great plushie skills.

>A good cable subscription, enough so to receive most children's channels, will always beat out online cartoon sites.
I find Sky often doesn't have what I want, gives the same description for every ep of the series, and sometimes shows edited versions without warning.

>Netflix
I don't have it.

>And if that doesn't work either, you'll likely have *hark*Pirate Bay*sneeze* as a remaining option.
Can't see Mia and Me there, either... Guess I might be able to find it somewhere, but it's nicer not to download them...

>>Will probably try some more eps but haven't yet.
>I tried with episode 2. When I have a choice between multiple episodes, I try not to go for the first episode.
I find the same, but sometimes the first ep is really well done, so I try not to skip it, just not to judge based solely on that.
>> No. 1167172
>>1167129
Oh, hey, Mia and Me IS on Sky! About 20 eps in though... Hm...
>> No. 1168427
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>>1167172
Well, what are you waiting for? As long as the episode isn't of the "We are preparing for the final battle due to things you haven't watched earlier on" variant, there's nothing to lose.

>>1167129
>I think it's just great plushie skills.
Then I do wonder what the tail is made of. It doesn't look like cotton to me, though with the large amount of fluff hair for the body, maybe he used the rest of his fluff hair on the tail?

>I find Sky often doesn't have what I want, gives the same description for every ep of the series, and sometimes shows edited versions without warning.
I've heard stories about censoring The Simpsons and Regular Show, but is it a widespread problem within Sky?
>> No. 1169182
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>>1168427
I've caught censorship on Adventure Time, but I don't tend to re-watch stuff on Sky so I can't be sure.

>Then I do wonder what the tail is made of.
Fluffy material in a tail shape?
>Like this but fluffier?

>Well, what are you waiting for? As long as the episode isn't of the "We are preparing for the final battle due to things you haven't watched earlier on" variant, there's nothing to lose.
Ah, right! You said it was like Dreamstone: Decent, but only really 1 episode plot.

Got theatre rehearsal in a bit but I'll try to watch one later tonight. Hopefully I'll see the hippocampus in action!
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>>1169182
>Like this but fluffier?
Yes, pretty much, but less shaped up, and indeed more fluffy.

>Ah, right! You said it was like Dreamstone: Decent, but only really 1 episode plot.
I can't claim to have watched Dreamstone, but yes, for me it felt spectacular at the beginning and lost its novelty before you could say "Argembarger".

>Hopefully I'll see the hippocampus in action!
I think almost every episode I watched involved either assisting the unicorns or saving the unicorns, so I'd say your chances are good. Though, after looking up "hippocampus" on Wiktionary, I can also say that you shouldn't really expect any part-dolphins.
>> No. 1172127
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>>1169238
Well, I watched 2 Mia and Me eps (eps 11 and 12). Only one saw the henchmen get shrunk and putting back together the trumpet is apparently a task that spans 20 eps, so I guess you got a strange impression of it?

Still, very wooden acting, and, much as I loved the equines' animation, it wasn't shown off enough. I got the Naga villain's introduction ep, and he was wonderful, but... The plots were slowly paced without much to offer. Also, the real life sections seemed very unrelated to the story's message, which I wasn't expecting! It would have been nice if it didn't so much make the real life sections feel unnecessary. Maybe they use it more later?

Overall it was a little more mediocre than I think it should be, but I'll probably read through some ep summaries for ones that sound good and give them a try. By which I mean I'm going to look for the water episode to see the hippocampus do something other than just appearing in the opening credits!

And I'd say Dreamstone's worth a look. As I recall, the first ep actually is a good place to start.

Last edited at Wed, Mar 5th, 2014 14:42

>> No. 1175830
I found the myfilly facebook page and twitter account. Maybe something will be happening in the USA?

https://www.facebook.com/pages/MyFilly/222736247742190

https://twitter.com/MyFillyUSA
>> No. 1175836
I found the myfilly facebook page and twitter account. Maybe something will be happening in the USA?
>> No. 1176024
>>1175830
Good find. I guess they've finally gotten around to the "social media presence" they mentioned in a tweet some months ago.

The Twitter page so far focuses only on Filly Butterfly (referring specifically to it on the Twitter account header), and I haven't checked the Facebook page, but it seems they're serious about reaching the American market, and I can get some good posting pictures out of it too.
>> No. 1176342
>>1176024
I am interested what they are going to try to do to break in to the american market as well.
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>>1176342
Filly Funtasia seems to be the biggest push into the market, being made with an American show crew (The list of writers seems to be entirely Americans or maybe Canadians). The Butterfly and Wedding lines has also been listed on the dedicated Myfilly website's American English section (which was before simply the Filly site) for a month or two, so I think those lines will get to American toy aisles before long to really kick-off the brand.

But this is pretty much qualified guesswork.
>> No. 1194846
https://boards.4chan.org/mlp/res/16730202
It's alive!
>> No. 1194863
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>>1194846
Filly on 4chan is alive! Which I presume is a good thing.

While reading through the thread, it hit me that there wasn't much of note that actually happened in that thread, maybe except the Futasia jokes near the end (of which there's been a few on Ponychan too). I feel like comparing 4chan's and /oat/'s Filly threads to Seinfeld (Invented the "show about nothing" formula) and Frasier (Was at one point considered the most intelligent show on US network).

At least I got confirmed the existence of the After Dark site, which has among most Ponychan Funtasians been a vague rumour for months.
>> No. 1234872
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Yooo
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>>1234872
[Insert Regular Show "Oooooohh" here]

Looks good, especially the shading and the face colouring.
>> No. 1236197
this is beautiful
>> No. 1236317
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>>1236197
I know, right?
>> No. 1245037
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You think this [www.funtasiadaily.com] was bad? The German [www.lizenzbranche.de] version of that source shows the date for completion as "Frühjahr 2015", and Google Translate translates "frühjahr" as spring. Spring 2015, that is.

First it was April 2014. Then it was simply 2014. And in the past weeks, this has in quick succession become Q4 2014, the time around New Year's 2014/15, early 2015, and spring 2015. The extended delays are announced faster than jab punches in Wii Fit Plus' boxing bonus-time, and I see no end to it. There are no cited explanations for the delay that we know of. Screen 21 does not list the show, and I don't think anypony ever found out which of the uncountable amounts of Black Dragon companies out there were the one that was announced to produce the show.

I announced in a general chat thread on /oat/ yesterday that I was on the verge of giving up all hope for the show, and the verge is getting closer and closer now. Though I also announced there that I wouldn't want several other Funtasians here to know about it, which I've thoroughly broken since I felt the need to mention why it can get much worse than merely "early 2015".

I'm not throwing in the towel for good just yet, and I'll still contribute to Fillychan and finding news (although somewhat less than before), but I can imagine that it'll be game over for my Funtasian interest within two weeks if it continues in this pace.
>> No. 1246344
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>>1245037
I saw that on FD. It is a pretty sucky development, I wish we at least knew why it was happening, especially given that episodes have been confirmed as completed... Maybe they got REALLY bad feedback? Hopefully not...

Is there any forum or such where someone might be able to ask? I recall reading that staff members were originally replying on the YouTube account before that attention got to be too much, so I assume BRB will have friendly staff elsewhere too, maybe better hidden from "you're ripping off MLP!" accusations.
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>>1246344
I can only imagine that there must have been some huge production problems with the remaining episodes, but any confirmed reasons are nowhere to be found. Interviews have cited a, paraphrased, very positive feedback from channels and show buyers, and Mimiga, one of the Filly creators, were surprised that the show had amassed a fanbase back in late November, so I don't think feedback is the problem. And after all, gigantic internet hate hasn't stopped Nickelback, One Direction or Johnny Test from thriving.

I couldn't find any forums on BRB's site, and their E-mail addresses were specifically meant for distributing and licencing.
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>>1245037
>>1247771

Aww, don't give up yet.
>> No. 1247872
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>>1247834
I'm still standing strong on my two feet, so that's good as of yet. But I believe the question of giving up is now at least more likely to be 'when' than 'if', even if by virtue of the wait having been extended by a year since the days of the trailer (I usually don't discuss the waiting itself due to my worries about causing bad feels/moods/something).
>> No. 1247959
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>>1234872
Neat!

>>1245037
The show was originally supposed to be ready for MIPTV, and that's in one week. I have hope we'll get some more information then.


However, in the light of the announcements on everfree.net and mlpg.co, I've made some changes to my website. Sorry guys!
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>>1247959
>However, in the light of the announcements on everfree.net and mlpg.co, I've made some changes to my website. Sorry guys!
Oooh, Magic is Friendly seems like it has potential. We've got Derpyjack, Filly Pie, Flutter and Rainbow Shopping.

>Tori Spelling hasn't even appeared on Filly Funtasia a single time.
Filly Funtasia can never boast of this level of autoritah. They'd probably end up with Conchata Ferrel (Berta from Two and a Half Men).

>MLP features a legal team which writes love letters to their fans regularly.
*smiley face*

This beats the other April Fools' I've seen today by far, but mostly because I've only looked at two other sites, and the obvious candidates at Eurogamer both turned out to be true.

Toleration and love to my best eachpony, you, me, and that fan song.
>> No. 1248041
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¡ʞool ǝʇᴉs ʍǝu ʇɐǝɹפ

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>> No. 1248124
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Gaiz. FillyRT, gaiz. It's been like 80 tweets there in the past fifteen hours. More than roughly the last three months combined. So much stuff. So much humour.
>> No. 1249894
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>>1248124
Awesome!

So there'll be a April Fools' appreciation post when you change the layout back to normal?

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>> No. 1250526
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>>1249894
>So there'll be a April Fools' appreciation post when you change the layout back to normal?
Presuming that question was for Soth, I think it'd be awesome if he compilated all the Filly-related April Fools out there, at least the good ones.
>> No. 1250549
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What's going on?
>> No. 1250625
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>>1250549
Remember the Filly Funtasia trailer from mid-October last year that every brony and their dog was talking about? The show concept stuck with a few of them, and since /oat/ threads were difficult to time and 4chan's serial for it went dead, this thread is a chatting place for a few of the pretty few that are still into it.
>> No. 1252353
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>>1250526
Ah, yes, that was for Soth, sorry!
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>>1249894
And here it is: http://www.funtasiadaily.com/2014/04/april-fools-roundup.html

My draft version of that article was pretty snarky, so I had to rewrite it to tone it down a bit. I guess I'm becoming just a tiny bit bitter. Oh well.
>> No. 1254656
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>>1254577
The 4chan sub thing was new to me, both the joke and the existence of a sub(marine?) thingy connected to 4chan.

On Everfreefuntasia, it's been a 420 airhorn blazing party all day and all night.

I wasn't (un)lucky enough to see the draft, but I guess that if it gets delayed even further, we'll have all the reasons in the world to get grumpy together.

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>> No. 1255033
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>>1254577
Yay for the update! Boo for the bitterness. It's fully understandable, of course, especially as we haven't been giving any explanation, but... I don't know. Maybe we could come up with something fun to do with existing toy-related content? Waiting another year sucks, but I've enjoyed our waiting thus far.

Could we perhaps come up with some monthly Filly-related thing to help the time pass?

...The text on that Bluntasia vid still makes me smile, haha...
>> No. 1255050
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>Oh, I got a late and impersonal happy birthday from the Filly Facebook page! That's nice.
>> No. 1256251
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>Looking through Funtasia Daily's tweets
>"The most perplexing thing to come out of all the newfound attention for Filly Funtasia: all the people who think Hasbro will issue it a C&D."
>wut
>people are strange
>Reminds me of how lots of people thought the leader Breezie in INEBB was played by Anneli Heed.
>Because of what they thought was a Swedish accent
>I can tell it wasn't much Swedish in it
>Hooray for bluetext stories with changing focus and capitalisation

>>1255033
>Could we perhaps come up with some monthly Filly-related thing to help the time pass?
What would that be, in that case? A gameshow? A storybook writing/reading? A fanfic contest? An LoE or Minecraft server?

>>1255050
I remember Filly Butterfly setting up Twitter and Facebook accounts, so I guess there's some benefits from following them. I don't really have an account on either network I can use to subscribe/friend, though.
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>>1256251
I guess to people who think it's a new thing it must seem strange? Though thinking that Hasbro can trademark colourful animated horses as a whole is kind of funny.

>>Could we perhaps come up with some monthly Filly-related thing to help the time pass?
>What would that be, in that case? A gameshow? A storybook writing/reading? A fanfic contest? An LoE or Minecraft server?
I'm not sure, mostly I was thinking that 12 focused fan events sounds a lot easier than 365 days of a vague "can we still find the motivation?" feeling.

We're a bit limited by the small amount of interest and official content, so something that could be comfortably kept to this thread's regulars would be good (invite others to join but make no assumptions).

>(I also tried Lynn and Will, but, while Will's kind of passable, it doesn't have the colour options to do Lynn justice!)
>> No. 1256612
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>>1256510
>Though thinking that Hasbro can trademark colourful animated horses as a whole is kind of funny.
If that ever were to possibly happen, I know of at least five other horse toy brands just at my nearest Toys 'R' Us that qualifies more as cash-ins on MLP than what Filly does.

>I'm not sure, mostly I was thinking that 12 focused fan events sounds a lot easier than 365 days of a vague "can we still find the motivation?" feeling.
>so something that could be comfortably kept to this thread's regulars would be good (invite others to join but make no assumptions).
I don't have many ideas for that. A fanfic contest is the only idea that appears in my mind, if we knew how to share the stories with each other?

If MIPTV brings with it news of practically any kind (or no news at all), we could be able to base a strategy for a few months on that.

>(I also tried Lynn and Will, but, while Will's kind of passable, it doesn't have the colour options to do Lynn justice!)
Rose and Bella look pretty good there, so at least two of the four works.
>> No. 1256736
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>>1256612
Are you implying that My Pretty Pony isn't entirely original?

>A fanfic contest is the only idea that appears in my mind, if we knew how to share the stories with each other?
Maybe one on the DA? And try to get people to focus on characters other than those shown in the trailer? After all, the toys have bios...

Perhaps a contest to design their own Filly family? Focus on OCs is a bit of a weird way to go, but it should be easier to keep it short and comparable. While a short comedy fic is hard to compare to a lengthy story with philosophical elements, comparing a family of 4 to a family of 4 should be simpler, no?

Given that the toy bios exist and that the Filly world is supposedly quite detailed (sure someone said that on this thread) we could try to use that to our advantage.

Maybe the first contest should be for contest ideas.
>> No. 1257076
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>>1256736
Yes, exactly. At least we've got things like Set Funny Pony, My Little Filly, Wonder PONY Land, Lovely Horse, Demon Donkey and Mini Funny Horse that look iiinfinitely much better.

>Perhaps a contest to design their own Filly family? Focus on OCs is a bit of a weird way to go, but it should be easier to keep it short and comparable.
>comparing a family of 4 to a family of 4 should be simpler, no?
That would give a huge advantage to people who can draw at par with the best of Derpibooru, e.g. you and Four Leaves. I've got some medium-size experience with hand-drawing (with >>1245037 being my most recent one), and I seriously doubt that Soth could draw anything of note, unless he surprises me. Also, how long should each event be? I could draw four Fillys within a few hours (Less than six) unless I get tired and need a long break from the drawing, and personalities are done within another hour and a half. If it's too short or too rapid, that'd be only one or two days of activity per month.

>Maybe the first contest should be for contest ideas.
Maybe as a pilot contest, but not as a full-on contest where it goes another month before the winner ideas gets tried out.

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>> No. 1257460
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>>1257076
>Demon Donkey
[Googles] Haha, wow. I wonder who okayed that name!

>family design contest
I meant for it to focus on the character qualities (how the 4 are related, where they live, etc). Give the marks for how believable they are and how well they fit into the Fillyverse rather than just their presentation. Maybe some on the colour theme, but certainly not just artwork.

>people who can draw at par with the best of Derpibooru, e.g. you and Four Leaves
Ah, thank you! I don't know if I'd say that, but it's very flattering to be told!

>>Maybe the first contest should be for contest ideas.
>Maybe as a pilot contest, but not as a full-on contest where it goes another month before the winner ideas gets tried out.
A pilot contest sounds good, it would let us know how many of the DA watchers are paying attention!
>> No. 1257587
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>>1257460
Probably the same guys who tried carefully to not misspell "robotcar". Send the Books!

>I meant for it to focus on the character qualities (how the 4 are related, where they live, etc).
Hmm... doesn't sound too bad, though it's getting a bit late in the evening for my brain to think things through. I have experience with OC colouring from a Ponychan-posting-personality-that-was-once-good-but-is-no-longer-correct thing I made last December (Positively helped me with the face), so that's the least of my obstacles.

>it would let us know how many of the DA watchers are paying attention!
I'm surprised there's still 25 watchers of the DA Filly group, considering it imploded months ago when several artists that had pictures there closed their accounts. But if we get the DA group's attention on it, and Soth mentions it on his site and tweets about it like he does with his usual articles, we could be looking at a super-contest with participators from Funtasia Daily, Fillychan, DeviantArt and FillyRT. Covering multiple sites was however the motivation for why I made Fillychan in the first place, so such a dream has failed once before.

Also, I have really little experience with DA posting standards. Are there any unusual rules one have to watch out for, whether it be posting art, text or something combined?

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>> No. 1262545
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>>1257587
The combined pic confused me for a bit, but "Roborcat" is awesome!
>Probably the same guys who tried carefully to not misspell "robotcar"
I now have mental imagery of "Careful... Nearly... OH NO! My hand slipped, both misspelling it and sent it for print!"

>Also, I have really little experience with DA posting standards. Are there any unusual rules one have to watch out for, whether it be posting art, text or something combined?
Normally just repeating the basics about "must be your own art and obey DA rules" plus more if you want sexual and grimdark content ruled out completely.

Seems to be pretty hit and miss for whether or not a contest catches on, even when the prizes are good... Recently I've seen several artists put "you must have posted a journal about this contest to enter" in the rules to help get the word out, so that's a possibility.

>I'm glad Funtasia already shows a wide range of expressions!
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BRB have no news about being at MIPTV this week (Their most recent news is having a few of its shows joining Hulu, which I think was only in US and Japan anyway), and they aren't on what is publically available of the participator list at MIPTV Junior (Goes alphabetically up to W). Get unhype.

>>1262545
>The combined pic confused me for a bit
I realised when writing >>1257587 that I needed one pic for the toy knockoff part and another pic for the OC designing part. I was halfway through writing it when I realised it, so it was out of the question to make two posts, so I had to pick up my hackneyed (and originally poorly recieved) solution of pasting the two pics into a Paint pic.

>I'm glad Funtasia already shows a wide range of expressions!
Where do you get those high-res pics? Is it from the Filly "Downloads" pages, or their Facebook page, or somewhere else?
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>>1263709
>Where do you get those high-res pics?
I may have gone through the Facebook page's galleries after finding the Aries pic.

>combined pic
It did get the job done once I stopped trying to see how they were related!

>BRB have no news about being at MIPTV this week
Boo. Honestly, they don't seem very organised when it comes to keeping outsiders updated...
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>>1254656
>The 4chan sub thing was new to me, both the joke and the existence of a sub(marine?) thingy connected to 4chan.
That's MLPG's "sub" (what they call the imageboard they created, based on one of their internal jokes); MLPG is one of those pony serial threads on 4chan that predates the existence of /mlp/. All other such serial threads have now dissolved or left 4chan entirely, but MLPG makes sure there's always a serial thread about MLP on /mlp/.

>>1256251
I like to monitor incoming traffic to the website which occasionally brings me to brony forums and whatnot that are discussing Funtasia. Thinking Hasbro is going to C&D Funtasia is one of the common misconceptions. (Thinking I work for the creators of Filly is the funniest)

>>1257587
Yep, I can do that! (The tweets are automatically posted by a script.)

>>1263709
>BRB have no news about being at MIPTV this week
They are there. There's this pdf: http://www.icex.es/audiovisualfromspain/Guide_MIPTV'14.pdf

Picture posted is a screenshort of the relevant part.

It's possible we won't get any new info, though.


Edit: It looks like the 2nd Filly promo is now gone from WorldScreen. What does it mean?

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>> No. 1264196
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>>1263902
I could easily find many more knockoff toys for popular toy brands, so Demon Donkey and Roborcar is not walking alone. And I remember the MyfillyUSA twitter having some nice pictures too, but with some quite bad timing as Ponychan was in the middle of the recent "What can I do?" image crisis when the tweet account was new.

>>1264048
Ah, the MLP General. I knew it was still around, but not that they were dedicated enough to make a reserve board for themselves.

>(Thinking I work for the creators of Filly is the funniest)
Heheh. I remember a guy at Ponychan-/int/'s German thread that thought I was running my "Filly blog", seemingly thinking I was the one behind Funtasia Daily.

>They are there. There's this pdf: (link)
Well found.

I thought MIPTV was something of an exclusive club for major telly companies, so it surprised me that they have an entire pavillion dedicated to Spanish entities. Their concepts amuse me too, such as "The Shower" (I swear I saw a strip in Frode Øverli's Rutetid that was about that), and this line from Lucky Fred 2: "Fred, an ordinary 13-year-old boy who accidentally became the owner of a super-powered, shape-shifting robot who can turn into any object Fred can dream of with a simple voice command."

>Edit: It looks like the 2nd Filly promo is now gone from WorldScreen. What does it mean?
I have two possibilities. Either the trailer has timed out by being too old, or they're preparing something new. I remember from the first Tinker Bell movie's troubled production that the first trailer(s) disappeared when there came new trailers which showed a completely different plot, so if history repeats, we could be looking at a refurbished show with huge differences from the original basis.

>>1257460
>A pilot contest sounds good, it would let us know how many of the DA watchers are paying attention!
>>1264048
>Yep, I can do that!
The grand question then is, who shall be in charge of the contest? I don't believe I have the resources or experience to run an organised contest, especially not outside of Ponychan.
>> No. 1264329
>>1256736
A contest sounds like fun!
>> No. 1264334
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>>1264048
>>1264196
>It looks like the 2nd Filly promo is now gone from WorldScreen. What does it mean?
My guesses would be that the promo was just up too long or that the moved release date meant they didn't want it taking up space so early on, but
>or they're preparing something new. I remember from the first Tinker Bell movie's troubled production that the first trailer(s) disappeared when there came new trailers which showed a completely different plot, so if history repeats, we could be looking at a refurbished show with huge differences from the original basis.
Would be interesting! So would that mean a reshuffle of the episode order and a different focus? Seems pretty possible, especially if the precedent has been set by Disney.

Also could explain the timeline (brackets for speculation):
>Some finished episodes shown
>(Feedback highlighting a strength they weren't aware of)
>(Discussions on moving to focus on that strength)
>Release date delayed
>One of the old promos taken down
...Though if that were true, we'd expect the trailer to disappear off the main YouTube... Then again, I'd expect that anyway given that it still says 2014.

Speaking of the original trailer, it still surprises me that so many people are so quick to judge when the FIM trailers included https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rkd_uS5xA0 ! How have some people still not realised that trailers for a particular audience are all pretty indistinguishable in tone?

>The grand question then is, who shall be in charge of the contest? I don't believe I have the resources or experience to run an organised contest, especially not outside of Ponychan.
Hm, I'm not sure... Like I said, I've still not quite pinpointed what makes contests a hit and what doesn't. Vague limitations (e.g. "draw a pony, any pony!") aren't very inspiring, and it's a pain afterwards to find out that 1 person (with specific likes) is the judge (group decisions are favoured), but I've seen some with good prizes not take off. My best guess is that it's the advertising for it.

Individual artists might be happy to help get the word out. I see that CeleryPony has shown an interest in the group, and her cute OC animations make her a known artist, so she's sure to have a lot of watchers, so encouraging artists to spread the word even if they don't have the time to enter would probably be a good move. I've seen some groups politely request prize donations too (e.g. spare points, or offering to draw a pic for the winner). Sometimes other groups help too, but normally only if it relates to their topic, plus they'd need to be large and active groups to justify the effort...

Maybe just post a journal entry and see what type of response you get and what people have to say? Something concise, like: "Should we have a contest? What experiences (good or bad) have you had with DA contests?" <<< (Assume that most people won't reply to lengthy journals. If they DO reply then you could ask more questions.)

If you get a good response then the UK/US Easter Holiday overlap is coming up (13th-21st) and trying to include at least some of that time might help. Or not! Again, it depends on who's interested.

Last edited at Mon, Apr 7th, 2014 10:45

>> No. 1264338
>>1255050
That is really cute! I cannot wait to have a happy birthday Sagittarius in November!

I personally don't know how they could personalize it.
>> No. 1264631
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>>1264338
It looks like they'll just put a Filly next to the symbol, which isn't much, but still kind of nice. They've started on Aries so I imagine they'll do the lot!
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>>1264334
>So would that mean a reshuffle of the episode order and a different focus?
Judging by the Tinker Bell example, it'd mean a full restart from scratch. I doubt that anypony else here knows the movie's production problems, but its original plot (from what small pieces we could get) was Tinker Bell going to some school to be granted access to pixie dust, which would then be used to spread belief to children all over Britain the world; and there may also have been something with a girl going to Pixie Hollow as a fairy. It is said that John Lasseter himself declared it unwatchable and demanded they start all over again, and the final result was about preparing for a winter-spring season change and Tinker Bell doubting her pots-and-pans talent.

>Some finished episodes shown
>(Feedback highlighting a strength they weren't aware of)
>(Discussions on moving to focus on that strength)
What kind of strength could it be in that case? If the professional companies have seen something about that we haven't (which is somewhat likely), what do they see?

>that trailer
Boomerang must really have tried to push the friendship aspect there.

>the contest part
I for one think the main problem with the contest isn't whether it'll be popular or not, but rather how to start it at all. I believe several of us on Fillychan want something to do, and there'll probably be a few more when(/if) Soth mentions it on his site.

>>1264329
It sounds nice to me too, at least if there's no major problems popping up with it.
>> No. 1266607
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>>1266148
> it'd mean a full restart from scratch
We might never find out what happened to the cupcakes? HORROR!

>strength
Such meddling doesn't always result in good things, but I'd hope that, if it were the case, it would be something nice like wanting stronger links between characters (cough-friendship-cough) or more depth in the dialogue. Maybe they took out or added a romantic interest? Romantic interests are popular with companies but FIM's been praised for avoiding them, so that could go either way. Maybe they decided some of the magic lore needed tweaking?

I'd hope it's making it more interesting rather than making it generic. I don't mind things staying simple but I do like to see new things get tried.

>contest
Mostly DA contests are just 1 journal entry outlining the rules, a reminder post or two before the deadline, and then the voting posts (if it's community voting) and the results.

Again, I think a "What would be good for a contest?" contest would be good.

...Although, a "What would be good for community events?" post might work too - sometimes people like monthly focused discussions rather than contests (the latter requiring more time/effort), and it gives a more social atmosphere.
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>>1266607
>We might never find out what happened to the cupcakes? HORROR!
"The horror, the horror!"

>Such meddling doesn't always result in good things (...)
I'd hope for, perhaps some world building, or a more clear chemistry between the Magic Mirror, Battiwigs and the Fillys? I don't have anything major on the wishlist.

>Maybe they took out or added a romantic interest? Romantic interests are popular with companies but FIM's been praised for avoiding them
I remember back when FiM became a thing that shows aimed at "girls", that is Disney Channel's poorly-produced sitcoms and the Nick competitors, were crammed to the brim with teen romances, so from what I remember from back in 2011, it was revolutionary at the time to have a girls' show on a commercial channel that didn't have recurring romances.

>the typical contest set-up
Sounds simple enough to me.

>Again, I think a "What would be good for a contest?" contest would be good.
>...Although, a "What would be good for community events?" post might work too
Well, at least one of them should work well. If you want a tip from me, the latter sounds slightly better, but only slightly.
>> No. 1274107
I found the My Filly Instagram Account! http://instagram.com/myfillyusa

I did not know it existed!
>> No. 1274109
I found the My Filly Instagram Account! http://instagram.com/myfillyusa

I did not know it existed!
>> No. 1274125
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>>1274107
As pretty much the first time I have checked out Instagram in any capacity, there were a few good pictures to be found, but I'm beginning to believe that Myfilly seem to be pushing Filly Butterfly and completely forgetting the core sub-brands.
>> No. 1274276
New trailer! New trailer! This is not a drill!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsb0F7tCEBE

(Filly Funtasia segment starts at 1:06)
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>>1274276
Holy crap. Calling all Filly posters! Calling all Filly posters! It's on like Hawaii football!

It'll take me at least a week, maybe two or three, to ask every question I could ask about this, but the most attentive questions first:

Who is "Home Focus development"? Why are they using teen dance music for the trailer (Though, EqG did that too)? The quality of the animation really has increased tenfold and even twenty-fold since the days of Bernard, and I could easily increase my Filly pic folder from 110-ish to 250 with this. I need to post this on /oat/ as fast as possible, i.e. within ten minutes.
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>>1274276
>>1274313
I'm so excited!

>Also, am I being silly, or are there not normally bird-winged fillies?
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The mirrors being used as communication devices brings up the possibility that Batty is secretly keeping Mr Mirror in the school, and that sometimes the mirror looks normal. Would explain why a potential menace gets to stay on school grounds.

The Case of the Missing Cupcakes and Meet Alicornator and Nerd-horse definitely seem to be separate stories. I see a FunDaily commenter has suggested When Rose Met Lynn as another one, which does sound like a sweet introduction story, but I'm not sure it has to be separate... This said, the shipping hugging scene has the selfie mirror, and it seems Rose knowing the answer in class caused shock, so maybe Rose's first day is an ep. They did all seem to know each other in the cupcakes ep, and it's good for series to start with us meeting characters at the same time the protagonist does, so it's likely.

I wonder if the frog and whirlwind spell are separate too...

Another scene comparison: The kick-scene in the new trailer has more vibrant colours.

Last edited at Fri, Apr 11th, 2014 14:48

>> No. 1275258
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>>1275086
No, wait, the frog's watching the shipping.

Not sure if the mirror with the pillar of red magic is the selfie mirror though. Maybe that's effectively Rose's mobile? Alicorny seems to have his. Gem (and its explosive arrival, I think) goes with Al too.

So much mystery! Only seems like a few eps are shown but I guess that's where they're up to now.

And this time in 3 years when we're complaining about them moving the air date to 2018, they'll release a trailer with full realism...

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I just realised, and I wonder how I didn't realise it earlier: HFDL from the first trailer stands for Home Focus development Limited from the third trailer. I blame only having looked at Funtasia Daily's article when it was fresh off the press and only had the BRB collection video.

Maybe I put a lot of faith in Filly Funtasia with this, but it seems to me like the show that will save modern cartoons. I just so happened to take a look at an Uncle Grandpa episode on CN an hour before the trailer, and the low, shocked "What?" came out of my mouth with the frequency of shotgun rounds. I think I said it 50 times in 12 minutes, and it was so weird at times that I fell tears.

>>1275806
>so maybe Rose's first day is an ep
I remember I read on a toy site a month or so ago that the show started off with Rose's first day at the Academy, so I'm pretty sure that'll happen.

>The kick-scene in the new trailer has more vibrant colours.
Almost the entire trailer seemed to have more vibrant colours, and the comparison pic on Funtasia Daily showed a much clearer background near the window. The background decorations in the kick-scene was good enough to make a mockery out of every hand-drawn cartoon ever on that area.

>>1275258
>No, wait, the frog's watching the shipping.
I can't say I saw a frog spell, so maybe it's just a pet frog á la Angel Bunny?

And by 2021, they'll have a virtual reality world trailer with dubious intentions that'd make the Friendship is Optimal fanfic proud.
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>>1276363
>HFDL from the first trailer stands for Home Focus development Limited from the third trailer.
Ah, okay. I tend to ignore stuff like that anyway.

>it seems to me like the show that will save modern cartoons.
Honestly, I'm not sure modern cartoons need saving... Much as I love 80s cartoons, there were a lot of problems then, particularly talking down to kids (as some shows were even forced into doing), and that's much less in fashion now. More kids' shows get praised for avoid it.

This said, FIM has had a monopoly on the clearly-popular "non-humanoids in a fantasy world" thing, and not only do I personally want more of that but I feel that competition will do FIM good. Hasbro tried to take on MH's "weird high school students" thing even though so much of MH's appeal is the gothic edge, monster theme, and high-quality toys, which EG had none of. On top of that, it's like it never occurred to Hasbro that the magical world and ponies make up any of My Little PONY: Friendship is MAGIC's appeal, so it's about time another show stepped up to the mark to try to appeal to that audience. Entertainment is about escapism and it's shockingly rare that more shows don't push that.

>Uncle Grandpa
[Googles] Uh... I didn't say that all modern cartoons are good! There are some weird styles out there, normally combined with weird plots.

>>so maybe Rose's first day is an ep
>I remember I read on a toy site a month or so ago that the show started off with Rose's first day at the Academy, so I'm pretty sure that'll happen.
Haha, okay!

>>The kick-scene in the new trailer has more vibrant colours.
>Almost the entire trailer seemed to have more vibrant colours, and the comparison pic on Funtasia Daily showed a much clearer background near the window.
Aye, it's just another like-for-like comparison. I guess someone's put more money into this and said that "a variety of colours" is a strong point. I really do like that it's not all pink and pastel colours. I think there's a bit too much pink in the main cast's designs, but the backgrounds help to neutralise that, resulting in the pink trio looking better together.

>The background decorations in the kick-scene was good enough to make a mockery out of every hand-drawn cartoon ever on that area.
There are some gorgeous hand-drawn cartoons out there, but Funtasia does seem to be trying to make use of some of the advantages of 3D graphics, even if hair/etc is kept simplified.

The synchronised runners (on the left and bottom when it gives the 50+ countries stat) bug me, but generally I think they're making good use of the 3D world: Bright colours, lots of interesting designs (and without going for horses-everywhere like FIM), lots of items, a variety of textures, a variety of light sources... Have I mentioned how much it bugs me when FIM animators use white to highlight? That's an amateur error and it looks tacky, even if some fans praise any inclusion of shading. Meanwhile, Funtasia's done a really good job of getting it all to look lovely and the lighting to look natural without letting any of the scenes get so dark that they look unappealing.

>>No, wait, the frog's watching the shipping.
>I can't say I saw a frog spell, so maybe it's just a pet frog á la Angel Bunny?
I meant the swirly spell and the frog separately. It could be that the frog's a pet/familiar. Maybe Lynn's, since she's a Witchy Filly? (It's cool that amphibians and reptiles have grown in popularity as girls' pets in shows lately! Always bugged me when girls were depicted as being scared of/disgusted by any animal without fur.)

>And by 2021, they'll have a virtual reality world trailer with dubious intentions that'd make the Friendship is Optimal fanfic proud.
Bwahaha, yes!

Ah, I'm looking forward to the next article IDing the ponies in this, I can't place blue-haired-orange (glaring at Will near the start) either!

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So much to answer too... This is going to take a while to write.

>>1276760
>Much as I love 80s cartoons, there were a lot of problems then, particularly talking down to kids (as some shows were even forced into doing), and that's much less in fashion now. More kids' shows get praised for avoid it.
>Uh... I didn't say that all modern cartoons are good! There are some weird styles out there, normally combined with weird plots.
You've got a pretty good point there. But in the same way that Filly dislikers think of it as a rip-off of FiM, I can't stop thinking of Wander over Yonder as a rip-off of Adventure Time (which I already disliked), and Sanjay & Craig and Rick & Morty as rip-offs of Regular Show, and Uncle Grandpa as a rip-off of both. Where's the inventive differing writing? Where's the in any way coherent episode plots?

Though I also have to say that I liked EqG and disliked Monster High.

>Entertainment is about escapism and it's shockingly rare that more shows don't push that.
Really compelling fiction can and will make you spend lots of time thinking about going and being there, and the more time spent, the better it is. But I've only had this effect in coherent amounts from childrens' cartoons and the occasional childrens' book and fanfictions based on those two. I think gritty settings, and progress with catches and deaths have been in for quite some years (The Dark Knight, TF Prime, Black Dynamite), which has provided great action, but would anypony want to dream themselves into worlds where you can die at any possible moment?

>I guess someone's put more money into this and said that "a variety of colours" is a strong point. I really do like that it's not all pink and pastel colours.
They've even taken care to not have much pink in the show logo *hark*FiM*sneeze*.

>Have I mentioned how much it bugs me when FIM animators use white to highlight? That's an amateur error and it looks tacky, even if some fans praise any inclusion of shading.
I don't think you've mentioned it to me before, but FiM aren't the kings of shadows. The shadows under all the ponies are round like a football, trees and mountains have no shadows, and lighting in general is like an early 00's PS2 game.

>I meant the swirly spell and the frog separately.
Aaaah, now I understood the context of that line. I have no clue which episode the swirly spell belongs to, but I'd guess wildly that it has something to do with the scene where Will (apparently) pretends to be a teacher. But the frog is there too... Maybe the frog is a recurring character?

>Ah, I'm looking forward to the next article IDing the ponies in this, I can't place blue-haired-orange (glaring at Will near the start) either!
It's been a while since EMF was active with Filly, so I don't think we could count on him. But how would we be supposed to ID the Alicornator, among other odd-ones-out?
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>Right, I'm going to compare the S1 classroom of FIM with the S1 classroom of FF, because casual analysis counts as "a fun weekend activity" to me

Summary: It's so long it needs two posts and rather makes it sound that I dislike FIM's style, which is really not true, but FF certainly holds up a lot better to nitpicking. Overall, I don't think anyone calling Funtasia ugly could compare these two scenes and find FIM superior on any accounts unless the reviewer had a preference for the cartoon style or the type of classroom (and, to be fair, I really rather love FIM's art style and prefer 2D generally and I still think FF's managed its art better here).

Obviously the two scenes are after a slightly different feel: The magical school for young adult royalty and the small village school for foals. However, there are obvious similarities from the start: Classroom setting, repeated patterns around the top of the room, windows to the left, 9 pupils, blackboard towards the front, etc, so I'm going to look at the implementation (all whilst politely not going on about the Sweetie and Scoot recolours at the front of FIM's class). I'll leave out FF's teacher and Al, too, since there's nothing to compare them to in the FIM scene.

Colours and patterns

FIM has gone for a warmer green and beige with a brown floor whilst FF has gone for a colder blues and greys contrasted with an orange floor. Overall they both contribute to the main themes of the two, with FF being grander and more professional whereas FIM has the warmer, friendlier, feel. FIM generally goes with horsey and hearts for decorations, continued in this room, and FF has plenty of elaborate patterns to look at. All good so far!

Lighting

There is no world outside those FIM windows and quite where so much light has come from is... Questionable. The room should be pretty dingy with dark little windows half-covered by curtains. The use of light isn't so bad (darkest around the light source wall, bright around the pupils to bring attention to them, dark towards the foreground so that it's less distracting), but it does create some contradictions. There's also a disagreement of shadows: The vampiric FIM fillies and much of the room's furnishings have no shadows at all, whilst the desks and most benches have shadows directly under them, and the back benches have one long shadow between them.

Meanwhile, FF, which has very convincing lighting (3D is cheating), has emphasised the light streaming through the windows to give a warmer, friendlier, feel that the room's design doesn't. The shadows towards the top further emphasise room size and grandeur. It also has translucent wings on the Fairy Fillies, which is nice. No world to be seen through the windows there either, but they look full of light rather than blanked out, which adds to the atmosphere and, with so many shiny surfaces, supports the amount of lighting.

Given the limitations of 2D, FIM compares pretty well, but the dark windows and shadow inconsistencies let it down a little.

Room materials

Why does the FIM school have a straw floor? Surely floorboards would have better given the school vibe? Maybe it was meant to be cute, but it comes across as a bit messy. Meanwhile, the walls... On the buildings I take those patterns to the timber frame house thing but here it seems to be wallpaper? I'm not sure what the ceiling's meant to be. Also, the curtains furthest away aren't properly hanging on their rail.

FF has tiled floors, metal and stone/marble wall decorations, and some wood used next to the ceiling. The windows have patterned wooden frames.

Obvious FF is cheating again with its 3D advantages, but as FIM was going for the "small village simple classroom" feel it should have a simplistic and easily recognised feel in the room structure as well as the layout. A little more care on this could have added a lot to the overall impression.

Furniture

FF seems to have dragged in fancy coffee tables and some mismatched furniture to make the room more classroomy, plus we can't see what the Fillies are sitting on (though it seems there's something). While this takes away from the professional vibe, I think it brings in a "bustling, busy, classroom" feel, helped by the big piles of books and scrolls.

FIM has gone for simplistic, but not entirely well... Obviously I'd nitpick if they were clearly copied and pasted, but the back row's desk tops seem wonky and Diamond Tiara's desk has lost its legs and had its heart hole filled in. Also, Scootabloo's bench is plenty big enough for her whilst Tootsie's slipping over the back of hers. It's nice that they aren't all identical, but still.

The blackboards are a nice comparison point: Simplistic and hung on the wall for FIM and intricate and worked into the wall design for FF. Hooray for blackboards!
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>>1276861
Part 2:

Items

The telescope and projector screen leap out in the FIM classroom. While FIM has a variety of technology, it doesn't help the simplistic feel, especially if they just leave their telescope lying around. Shouldn't in be in a proper closet? And if not, where's the projector? Maybe it was stolen. Moving on: The books. The ones at the back have been carelessly coloured so that their pages blend into the wall, and the ones near the front have been styled so that they look more wooden than the furniture. Ah well, apart from the bags looking a bit too clearly copied-and-pasted in terms of positioning, the pupils' personal learning accessories are good, so there's that. Anyway, beyond the #2Dworldproblems...

FIM has the telescope, a globe, a whole bunch of books, some paper, a note, a flipchart, a projector screen, 4 paintings. Maybe a vase under the furthest painting (it blends into the wall somewhat).

FF has books, hourglasses, scrolls, paintbrushes, some vases, a flask/urn-thing (under the middle window), a... Candle? On the shelves at the back? Some paper, what looks like a small pyramid (on the right), a strange painting between the windows, and a potted plant.

Let's start with wall decorations: The two simplistic pictures on the walls of FIM's classroom have been doubled into four, and they don't go particularly well with the rest of the room. The painting in FF is ridiculously detailed and the strange frame makes me wonder if there's more to it. It's also a little at odds with its surroundings (less colourful and grand than the rest), but it's clear a lot of thought's gone into it, whereas copying 2 pictures and not even changing the colours... Lazy. Just 2 pictures would have been fine anyway.

I'm not sure why FF has so many timers, but I'm inclined to think they're for a purpose, plus I'm fond of hourglasses: They look nice and, at the very least, further show off 3D's ability to cope with glass. A healthy amount of scrolls adds to the fantasy world vibe, which (magical horses aside) FIM left outside of the classroom. The paintbrushes (I assume are for calligraphy) are a nice touch (I mistook them for boring pencils at first). The plant's a nice addition, too. While one could certainly argue that someone's just placed random accessories around to fill up the room, a bit more of that wouldn't be amiss in FIM's room. I know they're after the simple feel, but having a telescope instead of an abacus (old school vibe), and paintings and a vase instead of foal's work and art supplies (primary school vibe)? It feels like they could have put more into the atmosphere. FF's room is messier but I think it has a stronger classroom vibe that FIM's scene, featuring a primary school, could easily have outdone it on. After all, primary school have much more nostalgia value and are more familiar, but this hasn't been put to much use.

Pupils

Both sets have a nice variety of hairstyles (though FIM's sat its identical pair next to each other), FF's a little samey with them all having crowns, and FIM is far ahead on tail variety. However, apart from Silver Spoon, FIM has broken all the visible foals' legs to have them sit down, which I'm going to mark it down on (there's no need to break kids' bones, Hasbro). FIM foals also have varied foreleg length, and while the style allows for that, I think it's nice that the FF pupils look so solid. As a side note, that solidness will add more tension to action scenes because the added realism compared to FF's rubbery cartoon bones will automatically make us think more of real limbs.

CONCLUSION

FIM's bright and cartoony style goes well enough with the little classroom, and the failures in the scene can be put down to it being S1. However, FF's first season's backgrounds already look to have a lot more love in them. It could be because this classroom will feature more (the mane 6 don't attend school), but if you look at Twilight's library you'll see that it's also quite bare and kind of impractical (very few places for ponies to read books, nothing like a sofa, etc). Obviously FF's at an advantage that it's easier for them to place random items and have them look fine from different angles (as shown later in the new trailer), but they are USING that advantage whilst FIM seems to have struggled with thinking of advantages for this scene (e.g. not having foals' artwork up). FF is pushing fancy fantasy a lot more whilst FIM didn't really push a small village schoolroom vibe very much beyond the desks.

Obviously they're not like and like, and FIM has clear effort shown elsewhere, but I think it says good things that FF compares so well in room design.

Final note: No writing implements? In either? Weird.
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>>1276783
>So much to answer too... This is going to take a while to write.
By all means take your time! Detailed nitpicking is fun for me, it's why I've spent so much time on /pony/ in the past.

>You've got a pretty good point there. But in the same way that Filly dislikers think of it as a rip-off of FiM, I can't stop thinking of Wander over Yonder as a rip-off of Adventure Time (which I already disliked), and Sanjay & Craig and Rick & Morty as rip-offs of Regular Show, and Uncle Grandpa as a rip-off of both. Where's the inventive differing writing? Where's the in any way coherent episode plots?
AT has deep, complex, plots that span over several seasons, but I can understand how the excitable and unpredictable front, whilst appealing to me, could be off-putting to others. While I've not seen S&C or UG, I think R&M is copying AT more than RS (I really hate the voices of R&M but I'll probably force more upon myself sometime for the plots and settings).

RS's thing is going from slice of life to wacky in every plot, plus a strange world that's never been quite explained (unusually, all the normal humans are secondary or background characters and are otherwise never distinguished by their being human). It has few long term story lines, though has done some of them very well.

I'm sure AT has brought the weird world/wacky characters back into popularity in a way that hasn't been very big since the 80's sci-fi cartoons and Looney Tunes, and I certainly agree this isn't all good. WOY is like Spongebob-meets-Adventure-Time and not very well done (unless it got better).

>Though I also have to say that I liked EqG and disliked Monster High.
What I've seen of MH hasn't been so bad, considering, but I give it leeway because the clear imagination is in the dolls and the show's kind of tacked onto that. EG was just bland to me, but then we know we have different preferences there.

>>Entertainment is about escapism and it's shockingly rare that more shows don't push that.
>...would anypony want to dream themselves into worlds where you can die at any possible moment?
Well, the superhero worlds are attractive, but that's kid stuff again... I think it's because, to be adult, shows have to include sex and/or gore to a certain extent, and if they're not using that a lot then they'll be told to extract it entirely and be a family show, which limits plots a lot. Adult Swim properly brought in adult cartoons but they've got the same thing going on and, while some thrive on that, or at least cope with it, overall it has to limit the stories they can tell, and make some elements feel forced. Kind of a shame.

Plus, yes, "gritty" (the grey, brown, and angsty type) is really "in". It's resulted in some really ugly films, shows, and games, but they'll keep wringing it out until bright colours make a comeback.

>They've even taken care to not have much pink in the show logo *hark*FiM*sneeze*.
Haha, yes! FF's is so much fancier. I wouldn't mind it as a keyring.

>>Have I mentioned how much it bugs me when FIM animators use white to highlight? That's an amateur error and it looks tacky, even if some fans praise any inclusion of shading.
>I don't think you've mentioned it to me before, but FiM aren't the kings of shadows. The shadows under all the ponies are round like a football, trees and mountains have no shadows, and lighting in general is like an early 00's PS2 game.
No shadows is one thing, and simplistic shadows I can let pass, but BAD shading? I can't find the white highlights right now, but in opening eps and finales they tend to whip it out, and it's just... Sloppy. I know animated is more difficult than still images but if they can put any shading on them I'm sure they could do it better than that.

>But the frog is there too... Maybe the frog is a recurring character?
I'm leaning towards familiar at this point. I want Lynn to have a froggy friend.

>>Ah, I'm looking forward to the next article IDing the ponies in this, I can't place blue-haired-orange (glaring at Will near the start) either!
>It's been a while since EMF was active with Filly, so I don't think we could count on him. But how would we be supposed to ID the Alicornator, among other odd-ones-out?
I'm not sure, normally I just look at the family trees... I'm thinking a chart more extensive than http://www.funtasiadaily.com/2013/10/filly-toy-post.html should be put together.
>It's part of why I saved these images, as name references, but my collection's pretty incomplete.
This is winding up my OCD!
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There's a fan video [www.youtube.com] by Filly Funtasia Fun (I guess we can describe him as one person?) covering Filly Unicorn toy lore. I think it covers what is pretty old news to Fillychanners, and he had really bad luck releasing it the day after the new trailer and so couldn't mix in the new material, and his mic has a heavy Xbox 360-like echo, but it's a fan video nonetheless.

>>1276861
>>1276863
I don't have anything to mention on the classroom comparison, it all sounded right to me, but: It's happened, man. We've finally become a place of really long textwalls that would have made /dis/ proud of us.

>>1276909
>By all means take your time! Detailed nitpicking is fun for me, it's why I've spent so much time on /pony/ in the past.
It's fun to see how many topics and sub-conversations I can keep track of at once, but when it goes past six or seven, it begins to put its toll on how much of it I can reply to, how long it takes to write, and especially how much I feel/want to reply when initially reading a post. So it may take unusually long for me to do a reply when it's at its most complex, and I rarely follow up on topics where I agree on what is said or if it's anywhere near talked through. But I guess most of /dis/' serious threads are like that too, so I'll try to follow suit when its possible.

>RS's thing is going from slice of life to wacky in every plot, plus a strange world that's never been quite explained
It's often fun seeing how Mordecai and Rigby will end up in extraordinary and deadly situations in every episode, sort of like the patterns in every episode of Phineas & Ferb and several History shows. I was into it until some point in Series 2, but I guess I fell off.

>but I give it leeway because the clear imagination is in the dolls and the show's kind of tacked onto that. EG was just bland to me, but then we know we have different preferences there.
I guess that explains it, as I've never been into monster dolls, or much monsters for that sake. So it seems pretty differing between us there.

>I think it's because, to be adult, shows have to include sex and/or gore to a certain extent, and if they're not using that a lot then they'll be told to extract it entirely and be a family show, which limits plots a lot.
I've come across many shows themed for adults that seemed really interestingly dramatic at first sight, but by the snap of a finger, suddenly there's a murder or two, bare-hands violence, and some pretty sudden relationships with or without the main character. The French show The Returned [en.wikipedia.org] I checked out some weeks ago had all of these problems, for instance. At least now I know why.

>I can't find the white highlights right now, but in opening eps and finales they tend to whip it out, and it's just... Sloppy.
I recall Celestia's Ballad from MMC flushing you with white-edge highlights everywhere, so I'd suggest looking there.

>I'm thinking a chart more extensive than [toy bio article]
>It's part of why I saved these images, as name references, but my collection's pretty incomplete.
I was originally thinking of EMF's character naming. But isn't it just possible to screencap all the family trees (including the ones on the German MyFilly) and whichever bios are important to know about?
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I'm so glad it's not dead.
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>>1277285
It was win-or-bust at one point, but the Wheel of Fortune landed on win.

Or in other words, the new trailer saved us all. For this time...
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>>1277091
>I was originally thinking of EMF's character naming. But isn't it just possible to screencap all the family trees (including the ones on the German MyFilly) and whichever bios are important to know about?
Good thinking! It's food time for me but I've got the screenshots and I'll put them into one pic later.

>fan vid
Oh, that's nice! He has some strange pronunciation going on and someone might want to point out that the "go visit the unicorns!" thing is for those who've registered on the site but- AHHH, my FunDaily banner was shown! Happy embarrassment! But yeah, nice vid, thanks for linking!

>long textwalls that would have made /dis/ proud of us.
It's just really nice to have something to point to and say "FF did it better" after so long of people pointing out FIM's superiority to something that doesn't yet exist.

Still generally good feedback on the new trailer! We're not looking so hipster any more.

>So it may take unusually long for me to do a reply when it's at its most complex, and I rarely follow up on topics where I agree on what is said or if it's anywhere near talked through.
Fair, I do much the same.

>>but I give it leeway because the clear imagination is in the dolls and the show's kind of tacked onto that. EG was just bland to me, but then we know we have different preferences there.
>I guess that explains it, as I've never been into monster dolls, or much monsters for that sake. So it seems pretty differing between us there.
I don't like dolls, but I do like monsters and can appreciate well-articulated figures and such (I collect non-doll toys).

>>I can't find the white highlights right now, but in opening eps and finales they tend to whip it out, and it's just... Sloppy.
>I recall Celestia's Ballad from MMC flushing you with white-edge highlights everywhere, so I'd suggest looking there.
Mm, not the scene I was thinking of... I don't really want to turn this into a list of my critiques of FIM's animation, anyway. Compared to FF is fair enough but, frankly, FF trumps it at light/shadow in every way, so there's not much reason to go on about it. I also don't like the new face angles that started with Shining and have been frequently applied to all masculine-snouted ponies since then, but in FF the genders look the same apart from hair and accessories, which is... Actually kind of nice? I like FIM's normal male and female body types, but at the same time having them so different emphasises a divide that isn't needed. It's a small thing, but I prefer FF's way.
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>>1277331

Why're you so excited for this show, by the way?
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>>1277345
>It's food time for me but I've got the screenshots and I'll put them into one pic later.
Sounds good.

>He has some strange pronunciation going on (...)
I wondered during the first half if he was talking about Fantasia, as in the Disney movie(s), and I don't think I've ever heard anyone pronounce -tasia like that before.

>It's just really nice to have something to point to and say "FF did it better" after so long of people pointing out FIM's superiority to something that doesn't yet exist.
I've had that feeling all the time, that FF could do some stuff better, as I haven't taken many breaks from Filly Funtasia stuff since the first trailer.

>Still generally good feedback on the new trailer! We're not looking so hipster any more.
Speaking of which... I think that BRB has really looked at what has been said about the first trailer by both fans and dislikers, and used some of it for the third trailer. More adventuring, scenes from more episodes, more than just the ol' cupcakes, better animating, more details, dramatic scenes, more magic, all of this is what I believe was things that were asked for both from and since the first trailer.

>I also don't like the new face angles that started with Shining and have been frequently applied to all masculine-snouted ponies since then
Are we talking about things like Shining's Twily face (There is such a thing as the Twily face, right? As I don't know how else it can be explained.)? Because frequent appliances of such faces on all male ponies sounds like a recipe for disaster.

>>1277348
I'm generally at a loss of words when it comes to describing what I find interesting with Funtasia, but the most common reasons I cite is that it reminds me of the best of all MLP generations, fixes several peeves I have with FiM, and it's simply another one on my a-few-years-old list of good girls' shows I('d) watch.
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Good.
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>>1277486
>I've had that feeling all the time, that FF could do some stuff better, as I haven't taken many breaks from Filly Funtasia stuff since the first trailer.
It's not that I ever doubted it COULD do stuff better, but people bashing it made it a proper underdog, so it getting some wins is nice to see.

>>Still generally good feedback on the new trailer! We're not looking so hipster any more.
>Speaking of which... I think that BRB has really looked at what has been said about the first trailer by both fans and dislikers [...]
Indeed it is! Maybe the feedback really was good and they got more funding and time to make it look better? I think a year's delay implies bigger changes too, though, like bits of the plot, or maybe voices... I wonder if we'll get access to some of the original eps later to compare?

>>I also don't like the new face angles that started with Shining and have been frequently applied to all masculine-snouted ponies since then
>Are we talking about things like Shining's Twily face (There is such a thing as the Twily face, right? As I don't know how else it can be explained.)? Because frequent appliances of such faces on all male ponies sounds like a recipe for disaster.
I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing... My problem's when they try to use the whole face shape as a nose so that they can do that 3/4 face for Celestia, Luna, and male ponies. Looks very Cubism to me, but some people don't see the problem with it.

>Howzat?
Kept their descriptions where it came with the names (even if it's in German), but the pic was too big for Ponychan: http://ge.tt/7cGmunY1/v/0

That Mr Orange Glarer isn't any of those unicorns makes me suspect that early guesses that this character is an antagonist is correct.
>> No. 1277768
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Why are Rose's expressions so great?
>> No. 1279076
>>1277768
Shipping art soon. Very soon.
>> No. 1279082
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>>1277560
Yes.

>>1277695
>Maybe the feedback really was good and they got more funding and time to make it look better? I think a year's delay implies bigger changes too, though, like bits of the plot, or maybe voices...
Hold on a second, something just struck me... The BRB representant in the first trailer mentioned that it would be ready for MIPTV. Did he ever say that the entire show would be completed and ready to be viewed by the time of MIPTV? My thought is sounding increasingly far-fetched as I'm writing this paragraph, but maybe it was never intended for a spring 2014 release at all?

>I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing...
Well, it's not easy discussing pictures without pictures, so I've used some example pics here, and this time with proper explanations.

>Howzat?
Looks pretty good to me, but now that there appears to be well over a hundred Fillys out there, it's for me a whole lot to look through every time a name is needed.

>>1277768
Seconded. She had some pretty good ones in the new trailer.
>> No. 1279108
I noticed they actually had Battiwigs holding the Wizard up. So my headcanon about the Wizard not being able to move much by himself might be true? Now I only need to have the Wizard being able to possess the bat and Princess Sparkle partying all night long and I would be pretty glad.
They're also playing up Will's cuteness. I hope Cedric's character point is actually that he's this really important prince but everyone ignores him/forgets that he's actually there.
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>>1279108
>I noticed they actually had Battiwigs holding the Wizard up. So my headcanon about the Wizard not being able to move much by himself might be true?
I did indeed see a scene where Battiwigs held up the mirror at the frame, but I also saw the Wizard do a bounce which led to Battiwigs losing grip and both of them falling down in the chest. So the Wizard seems to have pretty limited movement, at least.

>They're also playing up Will's cuteness.
They seem to play up his general happiness/enthusiasm even more, so I guess the cuteness follows naturally along.
>> No. 1279600
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>>1279082
>Rose's face
So at the moment she seems like the thinker/organiser but also prone to Pinkie-esque excitement (taken in to a more realistic level)? I hope the trailers are giving an accurate impression of her, 'cause she seems really likeable.

>Hold on a second, something just struck me... The BRB representant in the first trailer mentioned that it would be ready for MIPTV. Did he ever say that the entire show would be completed and ready to be viewed by the time of MIPTV? My thought is sounding increasingly far-fetched as I'm writing this paragraph, but maybe it was never intended for a spring 2014 release at all?
I'm not sure about that... We had lots of 2014 dates and we know episodes are already done, plus the changes in the trailer quality, I think a repeat of the Tinker Bell scenario seems more likely. Though it would be really nice to have some confirmation from someone who knows, it's a shame they're not replying on things any more.

>Shining faces
Actually, top right face is the one I'm fine with. The "Twily" face is silly but doesn't really bug me. One I meant is this type http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120414082022/mlp/images/2/26/Cadance%2C_Shining_Armor%2C_and_Twilight_on_bridge_S2E25.png where it's like the top right you posted but his background eye has swivelled out of its socket to peek over his snout. That's not how faces work.

>Looks pretty good to me, but now that there appears to be well over a hundred Fillys out there, it's for me a whole lot to look through every time a name is needed.
Okay, I'll put together a text list (with things like "white hair" and such) to make it easier to search through. Helps to channel my enthusiasm!

>>1279108
I definitely think you're right that the Wizard relies on Battiwings for most of his movement, though why Battiwings sticks with him instead of running away is a mystery. Promised riches? Maybe the amulet around Batty's neck is cursed?

>>1279174
I hope Will's as loveable as he seems, too. People keep saying he's OCarific but honestly I think he pulls it off without being too much. Reminds me of more... A Ben 10/Danny Phantom kind of "cool", with the black, white, and green.
>> No. 1279644
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>>1279082
>>1279600
I typed up the unicorns (non-ice) before remembering that it's actually pretty easy to ID a Filly by working out the Filly type first (e.g. by looking for skates, capes, wings, or horns), and Googling the name will give you more info anyway, so. Here are the unicorns anyway (since I did that) but I think the pic and Google are better things to go on.

_PRINCESS SPARKLE_
- White body
- Purple hair and pink hair
- Golden horn
- Pink hooves
- Multi-coloured crown gems
Info: Lives in a tower at the centre of Iridia

_LEAF_
- White body
- Red hair (with leaves)
- Pink horn (red horn in toys)
- Red hooves
- (Pale) pink crown gem
Info: Amoria unicorn, sister of Cordelia, mother of Rose

_ROSE_
- (Pale) pink body
- White hair (with flowers)
- Pink horn
- Pink hooves
- (Pale) pink crown gem
Info: Amoria unicorn, daughter of Leaf

_ROMEO_
- Grey body (with blue markings)
- Blue hair (two types)
- Pink horn (gold horn in some art)
- Blue hooves
- (Pale) pink crown gem
Info: Amoria unicorn, Cordelia's son

_CORDELIA_
- Peach body
- Red hair and yellow hair (yellow streaks), pink hair (with faint yellow streaks) on toy
- Pink horn – Has silver edition
- Red hooves (pink hooves on toys)
- (Pale) pink crown gem
Info: Amoria unicorn, Leaf's sister, Romeo's mother

_CLAUDIA_
- Purple body
- Black hair
- Pink horn
- Black hooves
- Pink crown gem
Info: Belucia unicorn, Mother of Iris, Zara, and Kirina

_IRIS_
- Yellow body with white markings
- Red hair and purple hair (purple streaks)
- Pink horn
- Purple hooves
- Pink crown gem
Info: Belucia unicorn, Claudia's daughter, sister of Zara and Kirina

_ZARA_
- Pink body
- (Pale) pink hair
- Pink horn
- (Pale) pink hooves
- Pink crown gem
Info: Belucia unicorn, Claudia's daughter, sister of Iris and Kirina

_KIRINA_
- Orange body
- Purple hair and pink hair
- Pink horn
- Pink hooves
- Pink crown gem
Info: Belucia unicorn, Claudia's daughter, sister of Iris and Zara

_BIANCA_
- White body
- Purple hair
- Yellow horn
- Purple hooves
- Yellow crown gem
Info: Festivia unicorn, partner of Agnix, mother of Loki and Samba

_AGNIX_
- Green body with white markings around torso and red markings towards hooves
- Red hair
- Yellow horn
- Black hooves with red fetlocks
- Yellow crown gem
Info: Festivia unicorn, Partner of Bianca, father of Loki and Samba

_LOKI_
- Orange body
- White hair
- Yellow horn
- White hooves
- Yellow crown gem
Info: Festivia unicorn, son of Bianca and Agnix, brother of Samba

_SAMBA_
- Pink body
- Yellow hair
- Yellow horn
- Black hooves
- Yellow crown gem
Info: Festivia unicorn, daughter of Bianca and Agnix, sister of Loki

_ALVARA_
- Pink body with white markings (face)
- Purple hair
- Green horn
- Purple hooves
- Green crown gem
Info: Amicia unicorn, mother of Oryx and Cory

_ORYX_
- Red body with white markings
- Yellow hair
- Green horn
- Black hooves
- Green crown gem
Info: Amicia unicorn, sister of Cory, daughter of Alvara, cousin of Karkadan

_CORY_
- Blue body with white markings
- Beige hair
- Green horn
- Beige hooves
- Green crown gem
Info: Amicia unicorn, brother of Oryx, son of Alvara, cousin of Karkadan

_KARKADAN_
- (Pale) blue body with purple markings (fetlocks)
- Blue hair
- Green horn
- Black hooves
- Green crown gem
Info: Amicia unicorn, cousin of Oryx and Cory

_ASHIA_
- (Pale) purple body with white markings
- Purple hair
- Blue horn
- Purple hooves
- Blue crown gem
Info: Somnia unicorn, partner of Squeak, mother of Gaia and Luna

_SQUEAK_
- Green body with white markings (fetlocks)
- White hair
- Blue horn
- Black hooves
- Blue crown gem
Info: Somnia unicorn, partner of Ashia, father of Gaia and Luna

_GAIA_
- Orange body
- White hair
- Blue horn
- Black hooves
- Blue crown gem
Info: Somnia unicorn, daughter of Aisha and Squeak, sister of Luna

_LUNA_
- Pink body with white markings
- Pink hair
- Blue horn
- Pink hooves
- Blue crown gem
Info: Somnia unicorn, daughter of Aisha and Squeak, sister of Gaia
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[Trying to spot Fillies]

Classmates:
- Filly with fancy orange hair: On Cedric's left in the classroom, and is in the shot with Willow at the front.
- Filly with less-fancy orange hair: Sits on Cedric's right, and is in the kick line.
- Countess Melody (?): Looks like her, but her hooves are different from her toy, so maybe she is a new character. Sits on Will's left in class, is in the kick line, and (I think) is in the end clip.
- Pony who sits on Will's right: He's white/blue in the classroom shot I assessed, but there are the glasses and bow tie and >>1276863 ta-da! Now he's the yellow/green pony! How odd! I suspect magic. A "make-cooler" spell like Al's that accidentally made him worse, perhaps? Or he got ill?

So it looks like their classmates will be involved in their adventures frequently from the start, which is nice (most of Apple Bloom's classmates don't have names and get switched out for other foals a lot).

Some others:
- Twilight is the teacher.
- The Filly whom Princess Sparkle is with before the mirror grabs her attention looks like Ashia, the mother of the Somnia unicorn family (dark purple hair, pale purple body, and white markings by the hooves).

I could look at the long shots at the start but it's hard to ID without more detail and I get the feeling there are a lot of new Fillies to be seen!
>And still this dude. I wonder if he really is an antagonist.
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>>1279600
>So at the moment [Rose] seems like the thinker/organiser but also prone to Pinkie-esque excitement
>I hope Will's as loveable as he seems, too. People keep saying he's OCarific but honestly I think he pulls it off without being too much.
I currently think that Will in fact is more likely to be The Pinkie of the main group, as he's more energetic, more consistently upbeat (Rose has some seriously behaving moments), and if they haven't drifted too far away from the toys, pretty physical and acrobatic. Rose seems to me like she's simply the happy one.

>One I meant is this type [Shining and Cadence pic] where it's like the top right you posted but his background eye has swivelled out of its socket to peek over his snout. That's not how faces work.
I can see now that something is pretty wrong with that attempt at a camera angle, but I'm pondering more about how that snout works, to the point where I made a Paint drawing of how a pony with a snout like that would look like from the front.

>Though it would be really nice to have some confirmation from someone who knows, it's a shame they're not replying on things any more.
Considering how they had the BRB collection video in "links only" mode since the moment they posted it and that I feel sure that EqD hasn't posted about this trailer, I too think that their representant can peek out from his hiding place. But I remember from when the first trailer was new that I felt too embarassed by how little chance he had to calm down the EqD crowds that I don't have the stomach to read what he actually wrote.

>Okay, I'll put together a text list (with things like "white hair" and such) to make it easier to search through.
(>>1279644)
>I typed up the unicorns (non-ice) before remembering that it's actually pretty easy to ID a Filly by working out the Filly type first
Such a text list would have been much more handy if one could make an Excel or LibreOffice Calc document behave like Wikipedia lists, where you can click on a row at the top to sort things by, let's say, when a game was released on a given continent, or by how many goals the teams in a football league has scored. If that isn't possible, there frankly wouldn't have been use for a text list anyway.

>Promised riches?
That's what I'd bet on.

>>1279696
>And still this dude. I wonder if he really is an antagonist.
I have this dejá vu feeling from him, but if it isn't Puk, I'm clueless too.
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>>1279772
>I currently think that Will in fact is more likely to be The Pinkie of the main group, as he's more energetic, more consistently upbeat (Rose has some seriously behaving moments), and if they haven't drifted too far away from the toys, pretty physical and acrobatic. Rose seems to me like she's simply the happy one.
Mm, maybe she's just overexcited on her first day? I wonder how much the mirrors will be like phones... Takes some charm away if too much, but at the same time I'd prefer they quickly make the level of technology clear and THINK about that sort of thing.

>>One I meant is this type [Shining and Cadence pic] where it's like the top right you posted but his background eye has swivelled out of its socket to peek over his snout. That's not how faces work.
>I can see now that something is pretty wrong with that attempt at a camera angle, but I'm pondering more about how that snout works, to the point where I made a Paint drawing of how a pony with a snout like that would look like from the front.
Yep, it's that or the right eye comes WAY forward. It's really weird, as is his head shape generally... I thought it was an animation error at first, and then I thought they'd fix it by S3 but instead they brought in more weird faces, like http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/File:Celestia_%27Far_better_than_I_have_a_student%27_S3E2.png for Celestia. Not only does her furthest eye tend to slip forward over the snout, but we're clearly looking at her from above to her right, whereas we're meant to be seeing her from her side. It's easiest to see there's a problem with the body placement if you cover her neck.
>This is the normal 3/4 face for boxy snouts.
I'm so glad these things won't happen with Fillies. We might get weird face shapes, but they'd consistently be the same type of weird.

>>Though it would be really nice to have some confirmation from someone who knows, it's a shame they're not replying on things any more.
>Considering how they had the BRB collection video in "links only" mode since the moment they posted it and that I feel sure that EqD hasn't posted about this trailer, I too think that their representant can peek out from his hiding place. But I remember from when the first trailer was new that I felt too embarassed by how little chance he had to calm down the EqD crowds that I don't have the stomach to read what he actually wrote.
From what I saw in an article about it, the representative was friendly and playful, and didn't get riled and start feeding the parasprites. If there had been less of a crowd to crowd rather than s/he would have managed it fine, but sadly it was too much.

It would be nice if they came back.

>Such a text list would have been much more handy if one could make an Excel or LibreOffice Calc document behave like Wikipedia lists, where you can click on a row at the top to sort things by, let's say, when a game was released on a given continent, or by how many goals the teams in a football league has scored. If that isn't possible, there frankly wouldn't have been use for a text list anyway.
Libre's Calc is where I started, trying to make a graph of Hair/Body colour so that it'd be easy to track fillies down based on that. Calc seems to hate images though (they just sat on top of the graph) and it would have taken a while to cut the Filly pics out.

>I have this dejá vu feeling from him, but if it isn't Puk, I'm clueless too.
Puk was fairy, though... The blue horn suggests he's a Somnia unicorn, but I don't know how reliable horn colour is outside of the sets. Maybe it's just a family thing rather than their region.
>> No. 1280196
>>1279600
Maybe Battiwigs is his, you know, his servant from before he and maybe Battiwigs were transformed. That would imply a whole different level of loyalty.
>> No. 1280823
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>>1280196
Ooh, nice idea!
>Inspired my warm-up sketch (which I got a bit carried away with and then messed up the colour on, oops)
>> No. 1281108
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So, theories on why nerd-horse has Cedric's body (colours and markings) in the first classroom shot? I'm guessing it relates to Al's presence, since he's at the front there and nerd-horse is involved in his story.
>> No. 1282037
>>1280823
Nice work!
Well, in general, the theories why these goofballs work together can be boiled down to three, I think:
1. They work towards a common goal. The Wizard getting enough magic back has a reward for Battiwigs as well, either riches or a transformation back or something else. Other way around works as well, maybe that thing he wears around the neck ties him to his master, perhaps he dies when the Wizard dies as well/due to not having enough magic?
2. Battiwigs genuinely likes the Wizard or is loyal enough to him to do anything he says. This would imply some shared history.
3. Battiwigs thinks the Wizard is the good guy or in the right and this is why he helps him. Perhaps they both have something against Fillies that unites them?
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>>1279920
>I wonder how much the mirrors will be like phones...
I think I saw Rose's mirror materialise from thin air, so they seem to be prized personal objects.

>I'm so glad these things won't happen with Fillies. We might get weird face shapes, but they'd consistently be the same type of weird.
Indeed. FiM's Flash doesn't lend itself well to 3D angles or arts at all, so I imagine that Filly will be more consistent there.

>The blue horn suggests he's a Somnia unicorn, but I don't know how reliable horn colour is outside of the sets.
Several of the new character additions doesn't appear to follow the old traditions, so I think we'd have to think inside the chimney to at least get a somewhat close match.

>>1281108
At least we can tell by the crown in the shot that he's likely from the Princess branch. Maybe Nerd is also a prince that isn't royal enough to meet the expectations? That'd probably get him along with Cedric.

>>1282037
Those three should cover it all... I don't think I can rule out any of those three options as the one that will be in the show.
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>>1282037
Thanks!

And #4 of "Batti's forced to join in" counts. That's often the relationship between big bad and henchmen in fantasy shows.

>>1282129
>I think I saw Rose's mirror materialise from thin air, so they seem to be prized personal objects.
I thought that the star mirror was Rose's, since she seems to use it in the selfie scene, and I wonder if that's it in the red-magic pillar scene, and that the heart mirror was her finding someone else's. Then again, Lynn is there for the mirror scenes where it's clearly the star, so maybe it's her mirror and the selfie scene is a "did you know you could do this?" moment or such. Also, being that Rose is an Amoria unicorn ("Amor" = love) and that Lynn is Witchy, heart and star shapes respectively makes more sense.

>>The blue horn suggests he's a Somnia unicorn, but I don't know how reliable horn colour is outside of the sets.
>Several of the new character additions doesn't appear to follow the old traditions, so I think we'd have to think inside the chimney to at least get a somewhat close match.
This said, if that was Luna talking to Princess Sparkle before the mirror interrupts, it could be that we get an ep focusing around the Somnia family?

>At least we can tell by the crown in the shot that he's likely from the Princess branch. Maybe Nerd is also a prince that isn't royal enough to meet the expectations? That'd probably get him along with Cedric.
I wonder... In the swirly spell scene, Nerdy doesn't seem to be there at all, whereas the rest of the class (minus male orange-hair) and a brown Filly are? So... Maybe it's not a good time to judge what he looks like. He seems so over-the-top "stereotypical unattractive nerd" whilst at the same time heavily involved in a story about an extra-cliché handsome (magical angel) alicorn (who doesn't seem used to his wings) that I get the feeling he may be a one-shot, at least in that form. Also that he seems to be around Rose a lot (every shot we see) whilst not being a main character.

Not too worried if I'm wrong, though, I kind of like his colouring!
>> No. 1282291
>>1282235
Maybe he'll be a recurring character. The nerd guy. I'd actually like to see Mr. Handsome and Nerd getting along.
>> No. 1282434
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>>1282129
>>1282235
Oh, wait, just rewatched and it's Bella who summons the mirror, if we're talking about the same scene. Hm... Puzzling!

We see 5 "handheld" mirrors:
- Star mirror
- Heart mirror
- Wizard mirror
- Mirror floating by Al
- The one of those Rose is summoning magic from (just noticed that it, unlike the star mirror, has dark-tipped corners)

>>1282291
There's so much it could be! I wanna binge-watch the first season nowww!
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>>1282235
Speaking of Muhammed Ali-corn, I think I've spotted the reason behind the mayday fall scene he had: He is shown with a bandaged wing at least twice. The screencap I used for this pic was somewhat ambiguous, but in the "red beam flying up" scene it's visible as clear as the summer sky.

>This said, if that was Luna talking to Princess Sparkle before the mirror interrupts, it could be that we get an ep focusing around the Somnia family?
Looks pretty Ashia to me, but was it on the toy sites or the toy figure packs where Ashia and Luna was mixed up?

>>1282434
Yes, I took a look just now and it turned out to be Bella's after all. So with the Wizard trapped in what is basically a personal mobile phone, that opens up even more possibilities. How did he get trapped in the mirror, and was it the mirror's magic or the magic of a Filly? Is it Battiwigs' mirror? Or if we go to the crack theory corner: Is he only a mirror A.I. like Siri or Cortana?

>I wanna binge-watch the first season nowww!
I'm still one for weekly broadcasts. The few recent occasions where I tried binge watching (Family Guy S9/10 and the local show Hellfjord) ended up with pretty negative side-effects, including grumpiness and a feeling of the episodes getting worse over time.

>>1282291
Perhaps the two are related in some way? A new family group? Two unlikely already-friends?
>> No. 1282894
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>>1282670
>Speaking of Muhammed Ali-corn, I think I've spotted the reason behind the mayday fall scene he had: He is shown with a bandaged wing at least twice.
I was assuming the fall caused the break, but you're right that it could go the other way...

>>This said, if that was Luna talking to Princess Sparkle before the mirror interrupts, it could be that we get an ep focusing around the Somnia family?
>Looks pretty Ashia to me, but was it on the toy sites or the toy figure packs where Ashia and Luna was mixed up?
Oh, sorry, meant Ashia! Said it right >>1279696 but not very with it today it seems, ha...

>Yes, I took a look just now and it turned out to be Bella's after all. So with the Wizard trapped in what is basically a personal mobile phone, that opens up even more possibilities. How did he get trapped in the mirror, and was it the mirror's magic or the magic of a Filly? Is it Battiwigs' mirror? Or if we go to the crack theory corner: Is he only a mirror A.I. like Siri or Cortana?
If it is a communication device then it's like the evil Sauron orbs in LOTR, maybe? Or more like if Sauron hacked a mobile phone system? What I mean is maybe the mirror is him breaking through to the Filly world from his rather than the mirror itself being a cursed object or prison. AI would be pretty crazy in a magical world, but I'm liking all these ideas!

It will be interesting to see where they take the mirror phone thing, like if an enchantment needs to be cast every time they're used.

>>I wanna binge-watch the first season nowww!
>I'm still one for weekly broadcasts. The few recent occasions where I tried binge watching (Family Guy S9/10 and the local show Hellfjord) ended up with pretty negative side-effects, including grumpiness and a feeling of the episodes getting worse over time.
Ah... Well, despite my wish I generally have trouble sitting down and watching TV for too long (after a couple of hours I normally want to do something more involving) but I've not noticed those side effects with me... Still, I guess that's one bonus for not being able to binge-watch them now: I'm looking forward to watching them gradually with others on this thread!

>Perhaps the two are related in some way? A new family group? Two unlikely already-friends?
The one who came to collect the blue gem and the one who got involved?

>Just noticed I forget the elf Fillies, so here they are!
>The brown Filly in the swirly spell looks a little like Patrick

Just noticed that the orange-haired Filly pair (who sit either side of Cedric in class) have elf ears. Goodness, the differences between the Filly types can be subtle! I wonder how much of a difference it makes in the show.
>> No. 1283068
Hey guys, RaichuWizDom/Wise Cracker here. Been lurking around Funtasia Daily for a bit, thought I'd hop in and make myself heard.

I've got another analysis of the trailer up on my D.A. account, if anyone's interested.

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/104/c/1/filly_funtasia__it_continues__downloadable_pdf__by_xeregon-d7efazw.pdf

The short story:
-three episode plots: cupcakes, Lynn's nightmares, treasure hunt with Al and Brainy.
-overarching season plot: five gems are lost and scattered. We've seen four so far, of which two in the clutches of the villains, only missing the pink one is missing. They match up with the Unicorn rainbow colours so far.
-Battiwigs could be a shapeshifter, and turn into the Somnia unicorn and Brainy to trap the heroes.


Also, some remarks on keeping the Fillies apart, for those who are having trouble:
-Unicorns have horns. Obviously.
-Fairy Fillies all have wings with a star-shaped pattern on their spec maps (the glitter). Also obvious.
-Witchy Fillies wear capes. Still easy to see.
-Elf Fillies have pointy ears. Kinda hard to see from afar. Their crowns also have wings, which is easier to spot, and the male Elf Fillies wear bands around their hooves. Presumably that's because otherwise they look too much like male Princess Fillies. Speaking of which...
-Princess Fillies have crowns that form full circlets, not diadems. They look like proper crowns, I mean. Might overlap with unicorn crowns, but it's hard to tell with the hair covering the way it does.

Really, the hardest ones are Elf and Princess, and the males are easy to distinguish by the armbands. For the females, just look at the crowns. Also, females have bigger eyelashes (standard) and all seem to wear jewelry around their neck.

And for my final trick, here's something else to ponder: in the first trailer, the brown Elf Filly talking about blowing stuff up is wearing a golden whistle on his neck. So the guy with the 'shoot first' attitude is most likely a gym teacher.

Yeah, this magical academy has a gym teacher. Meditate on that.

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>> No. 1283084
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>>1283068
A 23-page PDF follow-up based on the new trailer will be a jam for me to read... tomorrow morning at some point, as it's getting pretty late for me (22:54 up here) and I go to bed at earlier times than most chan people. I promise I'll have more to say tomorrow, and there's a few people in this thread that stays up well into the night, so maybe you'll have luck with them as well.

Also, welcome here.
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>>1283068
Ooh, some interesting analysis! I like how you thought about those storm clouds and Lynn, it fits with her bio about doubting her magic but having storms appear when angry.

Scenes:
>Swirly spell
You can see Lynn clinging on next to Cedric (mostly the orange/white of one hoof).
>Mirror background
I think there's a You Are Entering The Mirror Zone thing going on there. You can see it when Bella calls Sparkle, too.
>Will at the front
I thought they looked happy there, like Will had just come up with a good idea. Also, that frog's in the Lynn/Rose hug scene, so my theory is that the frog is a pet. Would make sense with Lynn (Witchy and all) but maybe Rose has a pet frog because why not.

Ideas:
>Battiwigs
The transforming thing is an interesting idea. I don't quite buy it for the unicorn (I think you'll get your wish that the unicorn areas are bigger in Funtasia's world), but maybe for Brainy... It over-the-top to disguise levels, and the bow tie/medallion switch isn't so bad... But then where was he in the cupcakes trailer? Maybe the unicorn, but still... I get the feeling Brainy's there for Al's ep (at least looking like that), and I'm hoping the Cedric colours weren't just an accident. Could fit with your theory, I suppose...
>Gem collection
Ooh, interesting idea! I thought the swirly-spell had a magical item, not a gem, but it could be, and the red and green do seem to be in a box of some sort... The blue gem looks like an orb though, whereas red and green don't... Speaking of transformation, why not have Brainy as Bats and Al as the Mirror? I'm guessing he's the vain sort and a better actor if need be. ...I'm probably over-thinking this now.
>Only Lynn = Ep
Seems likely!
>Lynn's first day
You've made it sound really likely, but Rose seems like the main protagonist and it's unusual to give the first day ep to another... Hm.
>Unicorn numbers
If they don't make more unicorns then it's really silly of Batty to pick that for his disguise! I expect they'll make the islands bigger than 1 family and just say "Somnia" and such are the tribe names or something.

>crowns
Is it not full crown = male and tiara = female? It's pretty clear that the male elf filly sitting next to Cedric in class has a full crown, no? Or have I misunderstood you?

>bracelets for elves
Ah, hadn't spotted the pattern for that yet, cheers!

>gym
Ooh, I wonder if they'll have a magical sport?
>> No. 1283164
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>>1283068
>>1283084
Oh, and yes! Welcome to the Fillychan thread!

And I see Alicornator and Al made it into there, which is flattering! We have >>1282670 Muhammed Ali-corn too, now!

Still nothing good for Mr Orange Glarer the unicorn, though.

>Googles Elio
...His smile is eerily like David Walliams', especially that of David's character Lou!
>> No. 1284263
>>1282670
Ashia and Luna used to be switched on the toy site. However, that has now been fixed.
>> No. 1284327
>>1283150
Okay, one post, then off to Blender.

-Gosh, how did I miss that frog in the hugging scene? It might be a familiar, sure, but then Rose has to bring it along, most likely, since the frog isn't coming after Lynn when she bolts through the forest. No way that thing can keep up. Actually, maybe it's a talking frog, and that's how Rose finds out Lynn's fled.

-What I mean by the crowns is that the other designs have some irregular elements to them: you can see bands, wings sticking out, that sort of thing.

The Filly sitting next to Cedric is a male Elf Filly, it's the one all the way on the right during the kicking scene. I kind of suspected the girls have diadems and the guys have circlets, but I couldn't confirm it with the way the hair works. The point is that the crown design for Princess Fillies is more geared towards the classical Medieval designs, whereas the other races' are not. I'm talking about the crowns being round things with pointy bits sticking out (technical term).

Now, the other races also have this design, but not consistently. In the first trailer, the Fairy Filly doing the lifting has that type of crown, too. The Elf Filly sitting next to Cedric has it as well, as does the Orange Glarer. But the other members of their race (even other males, like Will) don't have it and have other means of telling their race apart from the rest, so it's not a distinguishing element for them. It is for Princess Fillies, though.

-I think I may have been misquoted on the 'first day' thing. It doesn't need to be Lynn's first day there to get in trouble, it just needs to be any day she gets in trouble. It's Rose's first day, possibly, and if she is the type who knows a lot about obscure things, maybe she knows about Witchy Fillies and that's why she's clingy.

-regarding Battiwigs donning disguises: he's called Battiwigs. Batty Wigs. Subtle, but it's there.

-Gym: well, Cedric's bio did mention tournaments, and there's concept art of a context of some description. Maybe they have a triathlon: flying with summoned wings, shapeshift into Mermaid when they hit the water, then running.

Also, yay for getting on FD again! And I really need to clean up all my usernames, it's getting silly.
>> No. 1284346
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Okay, there's now so much I could answer to that this'll practically be limited to the most interesting conversations in a Greatest Hits style.

>>1282894
>I was assuming the fall caused the break, but you're right that it could go the other way...
I couldn't see the bandage in the fall scene, but he must have had wing problems by then still since he fell down and his wings were out of control.

>What I mean is maybe the mirror is him breaking through to the Filly world from his rather than the mirror itself being a cursed object or prison.
Maybe he's from a shadow dimension and tries to absorb the magic from a world he isn't in? That'd most certainly explain why he would need Battiwigs.

>>1283068
>>1283084
I'm surprised that you found enough material in the trailer for three-ish episode plotlines, as I had considered the trailer to be a bit too much randomly stuffed to be able to speculate on episodes.

It's also surprising for me that the vast majority of the people I get to know on the internet are either from Sweden, Britain or Belgium, whether it's on Fillychan, the rest of Ponychan, or Gmail/YouTube tasks.

When I'm in a situation where 'bronies' doesn't feel like a fitting word, or if it's discussing multiple MLP gens, I opt for 'FiM fans'. The use of 'pony geeks' made me wonder if you were talking about Brainy/Elio.

And the Breezies worked in FiM and arguably G3, right? I think the Butterflies would only need minor body changes to pull off the same feat.

>>1283164
I thought we were simply making up new pun names each time the alicorn was brought up. I could easily do more, like Ali' Baba, Allycorn or Big Straight Al (assuming he's straight). But now that we're credited for Alicornator and we've both used it before, it could be the standard name for him.

(+ >>1283068)
>looks up "Elio belgium", which leads to Elio Di Rupo
Looks pretty charismatic and with both political and personal feats, especially since he was the one to end Belgium's legendary government drought some years ago.

>>1284263
Okay. Nice that they fixed it.

>>1283150
>I thought the swirly-spell had a magical item, not a gem, but it could be
My eyes may be decieving me, but the swirly spell seemed to come out of a... ploughman's lunch box? What are brought-along-to-school-or-work boxes with bread and something on it called in English, or for that matter anywhere outside of Norway?
>> No. 1284497
>>1284346
I wish Cedric's eyes were greener, his all-blue colour scheme looks weird.
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>>1284497
Maybe it's part of a colouring strategy? There is a royal blue [en.wikipedia.org] colour out there that enjoys upperclass respect and somewhat common use.
>> No. 1284550
Also, about Brainy being Battiwigs, they do have the same eye colour.
>> No. 1285002
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I wish we had 1 full Funtasia song. And some musically inclined folks to do stuff with it. I'd quite like to hear the mane theme done with orchestra, like Evening Star's stuff. New song's grown on me quite a lot (helps that they fitted the visuals in well, and those were mostly relevant to the lyrics, too), but it's still kind of generic pop. Still think Invizimals has a better theme, but I have a preference for themes that say the title, so I would think that. Either way, the new song does make it seem more modern, and I like that they're paying attention to that sort of thing.

>>1284327
>Actually, maybe it's a talking frog, and that's how Rose finds out Lynn's fled.
FROG CHARADES!

>What I mean by the crowns is that the other designs have some irregular elements to them: you can see bands, wings sticking out, that sort of thing.
Oh, I see what you mean now! I thought you meant "proper" crowns as in non-tiaras, but you mean the famous simple look. Gotcha!

>I think I may have been misquoted on the 'first day' thing. It doesn't need to be Lynn's first day there to get in trouble, it just needs to be any day she gets in trouble. It's Rose's first day, possibly, and if she is the type who knows a lot about obscure things, maybe she knows about Witchy Fillies and that's why she's clingy.
Would be strange to have a big event including Lynn on Rose's first day... Maybe the two are separate eps, then.

>regarding Battiwigs donning disguises: he's called Battiwigs. Batty Wigs. Subtle, but it's there.
Ah, I was thinking it was a nod to popular fictional Victorian names like Fezziwig, but it COULD be foreshadowing... Well spotted!

Also, I'm pretty fond of "Elio" for nerd-horse. It sounds pretty good, plus none of us seem to be headcanoning him as being brainy.

>>1284346
>>I was assuming the fall caused the break, but you're right that it could go the other way...
>I couldn't see the bandage in the fall scene, but he must have had wing problems by then still since he fell down and his wings were out of control.
I vote he's an alien and that's him falling out of his spaceship (not used to the amount of gravity) after he comes after his missing warp crystal (the blue gem). It's possible I'm not serious.

>It's also surprising for me that the vast majority of the people I get to know on the internet are either from Sweden, Britain or Belgium, whether it's on Fillychan, the rest of Ponychan, or Gmail/YouTube tasks.
I've noticed the Nordic countries' online presence getting a lot stronger in the last 5 years, though I'm not sure what would have caused that. And hey, I'm 1/4 Belgian!

>When I'm in a situation where 'bronies' doesn't feel like a fitting word, or if it's discussing multiple MLP gens, I opt for 'FiM fans'.
Do we have a silly name for Funtasia fans yet? Funatics? People-who-like-that-Filly-show? I guess we should wait until it starts...

>And the Breezies worked in FiM and arguably G3, right? I think the Butterflies would only need minor body changes to pull off the same feat.
I thought the G3 Breezies were a lot better than FIM's.

>>I thought the swirly-spell had a magical item, not a gem, but it could be
>My eyes may be decieving me, but the swirly spell seemed to come out of a... ploughman's lunch box? What are brought-along-to-school-or-work boxes with bread and something on it called in English, or for that matter anywhere outside of Norway?
You mean... Lunchboxes? And I see... A weird object, with a teapot-y shape at the top. A science project? (I was thinking this linked with Will being at the front of the class.)
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>swirly-spell centre item
It's not easy to see, but that's how it looks to me, with something bright in between the top and bottom.

Speaking of: What type of magic do we think they'll have? "Think it and it's done"? Incantations, Harry-Potter-style? Bella summons a mirror somehow, maybe a hoof movement? Haven't seen any wands yet, though the Witchy Fillies have them on some official stuff...

>>1284497
Is a little odd, but maybe it'll grow on us?

>>1284550
Ooh, well spotted!
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>>1285002
There were lots of remixes made out of Gravity Falls' ~45-second intro, so I can imagine that if there were Funtasia music remixers out there, (s)he'd have just enough material to work from.

>You mean... Lunchboxes? And I see... A weird object, with a teapot-y shape at the top. A science project? (I was thinking this linked with Will being at the front of the class.)
Ah, the lunchboxes. I completely failed to remember anything worthwhile, Google Translate didn't help, and I was moments away from guessing "food pack". Now that I look closer, and that's pretty difficult with the swirl blur, it looks like two books and a bronze kettle. Perhaps something like the "storm in a tube/(kettle)" thing I swear I saw in Totally Spies once or twice?

>Do we have a silly name for Funtasia fans yet?
I thought there was agreement around Funtasians some months ago, but that's probably the serious name. I remember campaining for Funtz back when there was no name, to prevent /mlp/ from getting to determine the final name (They were going for fillyfoolers or fillyfiddlers at that point), but that was a long time ago and only two posters catched on to it.

>I thought the G3 Breezies were a lot better than FIM's.
It's pretty easy for us G3 fans to think that, but I saw that most INEBB viewers held the FiMs as the better example, and I was pretty much playing safe.

>I vote he's an alien and that's him falling out of his spaceship (not used to the amount of gravity) after he comes after his missing warp crystal (the blue gem).
And his bandage is a secret code transmitter to his spaceship, that signals for the spaceship king, the mirror Wizard and Doctor Calico, all at once, when it is time to strike and siege all of Funtasia-Land (I can follow suit when silliness is expected).

>Also, I'm pretty fond of "Elio" for nerd-horse. It sounds pretty good, plus none of us seem to be headcanoning him as being brainy.
If he's well-spoken, it'd be the most original logic behind a fan naming I've witnessed in my internet life.

>I've noticed the Nordic countries' online presence getting a lot stronger in the last 5 years, though I'm not sure what would have caused that. And hey, I'm 1/4 Belgian!
I'd guess that Skype and PS3/X360 game chatting has gotten pretty popular, along with easier access to more English and American culture and a slightly better school, all of which leads to more opportunities to hone their English skills and to use such English wherever they are on the Internet. There seems to be two "curses" following me with whoever I befriend on the internet: They either have something on the autism spectre despite hiding it well, and/or they are from a few specific countries. Soth was pretty Swedish last time I checked, for one.

>>1284550
Looking through the trailer scene by scene, I think all of the Fillys (and Battiwigs) combined only have two eye colours anyway, which are blue and two shades of green that are similar enough that I count them as one, which doesn't promise well for using the eye colours as a good point.

>>1284327
>Maybe they have a triathlon: flying with summoned wings, shapeshift into Mermaid when they hit the water, then running.
I'd pay a fortune to be in such a triathlon, even if just for the mermaid shapeshift part. And even though I have almost zero endurance. But it's as good as any explanation for the wings.

>Actually, maybe it's a talking frog, and that's how Rose finds out Lynn's fled.
Wouldn't surprise if it was talking and authorative á la the cat teacher woman thing from the early Harry Potter movies.

>Also, yay for getting on FD again!
Posting fan stuff on Fillychan is a good, but apparently not guaranteed, way to get Soth's attention, as he browses through this thread every few days or so. And if he doesn't notice it, an artist can always try E-mail submissions, or waiting some days for me or him to spot it on DA or Google.
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>>1285027
I didn't have much luck with the swirl machine shape either, so I'm guessing at a trophy-shaped chemistry machine with wires leading to a secondary box.
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>>1285256
Ah, I was interpreting the box as background... The coiled spout-thing I'm seeing reminds me of distillers (particularly exaggerated cartoony ones), but that would make the glowy bit that seems to be causing the spell a power source, and that seems a bit extreme for a Bunsen burner!

>>1285093
>There were lots of remixes made out of Gravity Falls' ~45-second intro, so I can imagine that if there were Funtasia music remixers out there, (s)he'd have just enough material to work from.
Hopefully some will appear in the future!

>Funtasians
It sounds pretty, but I suspect that's what Funtasia inhabitants are called, so it would be like Bronies being called Equestrians, no?
>Funtz
That's not so bad!

>>I thought the G3 Breezies were a lot better than FIM's.
>It's pretty easy for us G3 fans to think that, but I saw that most INEBB viewers held the FiMs as the better example, and I was pretty much playing safe.
Heh, some people will hold FIM as the best example of anything.

>>I vote he's an alien and that's him falling out of his spaceship (not used to the amount of gravity) after he comes after his missing warp crystal (the blue gem).
>And his bandage is a secret code transmitter to his spaceship, that signals for the spaceship king, the mirror Wizard and Doctor Calico, all at once, when it is time to strike and siege all of Funtasia-Land
Hail Alicornator, Destroyer of Worlds!

>Also, I'm pretty fond of "Elio" for nerd-horse. It sounds pretty good, plus none of us seem to be headcanoning him as being brainy.
If he's well-spoken, it'd be the most original logic behind a fan naming I've witnessed in my internet life.

>>I've noticed the Nordic countries' online presence getting a lot stronger in the last 5 years, though I'm not sure what would have caused that. And hey, I'm 1/4 Belgian!
>I'd guess that Skype and PS3/X360 game chatting has gotten pretty popular, along with easier access to more English and American culture and a slightly better school, all of which leads to more opportunities to hone their English skills and to use such English wherever they are on the Internet.
Ah, maybe!
>There seems to be two "curses" following me with whoever I befriend on the internet: They either have something on the autism spectre despite hiding it well, and/or they are from a few specific countries.
Are those problems? Sure, it'd be nice to meet more fun people locally, but I've not found that mental health makes a huge difference to what type of person people are.

>Looking through the trailer scene by scene, I think all of the Fillys (and Battiwigs) combined only have two eye colours anyway, which are blue and two shades of green that are similar enough that I count them as one, which doesn't promise well for using the eye colours as a good point.
...Oh... How odd. I guess that might get subtly changed later. FIM changed magic colour from (usually) based-on-eyes to (much more consistently) based-on-cutie-mark in S2 and many people didn't notice at all.

>the cat teacher woman thing from the early Harry Potter movies.
...Do you mean McGonagall's cat transformation scene? Otherwise I'm confused.
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>>1285439
Aha, Lynn has purple eyes!

And I do know eye colour's a little less subtle a change than magic, but they could just do it.
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>>1285452
Oops, should have posted a Filly with non-green/blue eyes there...

...And I'm spamming the thread again, oops!
>> No. 1285926
>>1285093
>I remember campaining for Funtz back when there was no name, to prevent /mlp/ from getting to determine the final name (They were going for fillyfoolers or fillyfiddlers at that point)
"Brolies" was popular on /mlp/ a while. That'd be funny if only for all the DBZ jokes.

>Soth was pretty Swedish last time I checked, for one.
Yep. (Full disclosure: I'm half Swedish and half Finnish, and I live in Sweden.)

>Posting fan stuff on Fillychan is a good, but apparently not guaranteed, way to get Soth's attention, as he browses through this thread every few days or so.
Yep, pretty much. I've been a bit busy with other projects lately, but my post-trailer analysis post should be done Soon™

I was going to write up a post about Filly Funtasia Fun's lore video just now, but it appears to be gone.
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>Brolies
Brollies?

>>Posting fan stuff on Fillychan is a good, but apparently not guaranteed, way to get Soth's attention, as he browses through this thread every few days or so.
>Yep, pretty much. I've been a bit busy with other projects lately, but my post-trailer analysis post should be done Soon™
Ooh, yay!

>I was going to write up a post about Filly Funtasia Fun's lore video just now, but it appears to be gone.
What? The one that appeared just before the new trailer? Oh dear! Maybe he just wanted to change some stuff and will reupload soon?
>> No. 1286967
>>1286010
His tweets about it seem gone too. Dang.
>> No. 1287031
There should not be a set name. It's funnier using a different fan name every time.
>> No. 1287040
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>>1285439
>Are those problems?
Not really, but it's a big surprise when me and another one have been good co-operative friends for more than a year, and then it turns out that Positively Pinkie has had high-functioning autism, or that the YouTube personality Dennis Fluttershy have Aspergers. Nationalities are generally figured out much more quickly, though, and Scandinavians and Brits are pretty easy for me to talk cultural references with, so that one's more of a chat benefits thing.

>...Do you mean McGonagall's cat transformation scene?
McGonagall was the one that could transform into a black cat, right? If so, it's definitely her.

>FIM changed magic colour from (usually) based-on-eyes to (much more consistently) based-on-cutie-mark in S2 and many people didn't notice at all.
They did? I must have been one of the many that didn't notice.

>It sounds pretty, but I suspect that's what Funtasia inhabitants are called, so it would be like Bronies being called Equestrians, no?
I remember now that Will referred to "Who in Funtasia (...)" as a country or world in the first trailer, but we haven't heard the term for Funtasia's citizens yet. If it turns out to be "Funtasians", then I think we could try to figure out an alternate name.

>>1285452
>>1285455
After making a collage with all Lynn faces in the new trailer, she too appears to have blue eyes to me. There's only one or two of these faces where I could get behind her having purple eyes.

>>1285926
>"Brolies" was popular on /mlp/ a while. That'd be funny if only for all the DBZ jokes.
"You may have spiky hair and lots of powers, Brolies, but I'll blast you back to the early manga with my Super Saiyan x6 powers!". I only know the basics about Dragonball (and Z), so I'm probably not the best joke teller.

>I was going to write up a post about Filly Funtasia Fun's lore video just now, but it appears to be gone.
>>1286010
>What? The one that appeared just before the new trailer? Oh dear!
Not a good sign. Though it wasn't a very popular video (<100 views when I checked it out), there must have been some other reason why it's gone.
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>>1286967
His oldest tweet shown on FillyRT now is from the 18th of March about a channel logo. And I swear he had lots of tweets about the lore video before they were gone.

>>1287031
>It's funnier using a different fan name every time.
For the fanbase or for Ali KoЯn?

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>> No. 1287226
>>1287054
For both, actually.
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>Ah, the direction the hair goes is actually set in Funtasia (unlike FIM)! More of a challenge!

>>1287040
>autism
Mental conditions/disorders/etc tend to be just more pronounced versions of normal things, so I don't really consider it a major thing unless it's really at the high end (some people with autism never learn to speak, even through sign language).

>>...Do you mean McGonagall's cat transformation scene?
>McGonagall was the one that could transform into a black cat, right? If so, it's definitely her.
Tabby, I think. In the classroom scene, at least.

>After making a collage with all Lynn faces in the new trailer, she too appears to have blue eyes to me. There's only one or two of these faces where I could get behind her having purple eyes.
Maybe "indigo" is more what I meant? I'd say they're certainly more purple than the icy blue others have.

Hm... Cedric would look pretty good with yellow eyes... Ah well! Probably won't stand out much during an actual episode.

>>>I was going to write up a post about Filly Funtasia Fun's lore video just now, but it appears to be gone.
>>What? The one that appeared just before the new trailer? Oh dear!
>Not a good sign. Though it wasn't a very popular video (<100 views when I checked it out), there must have been some other reason why it's gone.
>>1286967
Maybe he's just improving stuff since the new trailer was more flashy?

>>1287031
You should join in on naming Aliddin!

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>>1287307
>Maybe "indigo" is more what I meant? I'd say they're certainly more purple than the icy blue others have.
Now that I looked at the collage again about 20 minutes before writing this paragraph, it's starting to look purple/indigo to me too, but it looked blue when I capped the trailer. I have a history with minor problems determining shades of blue, as I consider turquoise to be a shade of blue, instead of as a shade of green as the rest of my family thinks.

>Tabby, I think.
Now that I looked up the Philosopher's Stone book on Wikipedia, I'm pretty sure now that it was McGonagall. It's been a long while since I watched the movies, even longer so since I watched the early ones in English, so my memory is very far from crisp.

>so I don't really consider it a major thing unless it's really at the high end (some people with autism never learn to speak, even through sign language).
I spent seven years at special learning facilities aimed at pupils with autism bad enough to not function in normal schools even with accomodation, as I was considered an autist at the time I got a spot there (Now it's considered a really-difficult-to-accomodate-for Aspergers with depressions), and so the vast majority of the other pupils at the facility were of the very-high-end kind, so I think I have more experience than most. Out of about twenty, I think five were at the never-speaking tier.

>Ah, the direction the hair goes is actually set in Funtasia (unlike FIM)!
FiM's animation very often got away with mirroring the character art when they needed to show their other sides. With the Fillys, it's much more important to use the actual other sides of the characters.

>You should join in on naming Aliddin!
>>1287226
I can always make more names for our pal Alicron.
>> No. 1287362
>>1287323
(Gosh, this place is going to supplant FimFiction as my addiction, isn't it?)

The hair in Fim does change sides depending on what looks better, not what's more accurate. Ditto on facial angles.

From what I can tell, though, the Filly hair is a mesh with a softbody simulation running on it. In the first trailer, if you pay attention to the blue teacher filly with the long hair, you can see the hair falling down his sides. If it is a simulation with the rest of the model set as rigid bodies, then that would mean Filly hair is always going to act in the same manner, regardless of what the rig is doing. On the flip side, simulations are a lot harder to control and set up properly, and they eat up resources like crazy. At least it's not particle hair... they're saving that for the movie, lol.

Also, I hope our Blondicorn's real name turns out to be something badass. Or silly.
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I think I found something on Google at http://www.spielzeug-schuette.de/tagebuch/filly-funtasia-%E2%80%93-tauch-ein-in-eine-magische-und-geheimnisvolle-filly-welt!-b5.html whatever the heck it is. It seems to aim at being a toysite summary of Filly Funtasia from an unknown narrative, but can't possibly be so, and some help from a German-speaker who can tell me what the text is trying to convey would be a good thing.

Even with very little use of Google Translate, it seems to explain the setting behind the show and then summarise how the merch for the show will progress. The setting part gets the vast majority right, but cites Romeo, Leaf and Cordelia(?) as Rose's friends. The merch part, which is pretty long, gets nearly revolutionary with "Filly Funtasia DVD Staffel 1 und 2 freuen" (Filly Funtasia DVD "staff" 1 and 2, "please"), then gets increasingly stranger and stranger with things like "Kinofilm" (cinema movie), and all imaginable kinds of "Bücher" (books), and then rounds it off bad enough that I can't believe that anything in it is true with Lego and Fisher Price sets and "Filly Funtasia Nintendo DS oder Nintendo Wii Spiele geben.", which doesn't really need a translation.

>>1287362
Details on hair animation methods are a tiny bit outside of my knowledge area, but the manes appear to me to be one whole structure, with no hair behaving really differently from the rest, so it has to be a structure of some kind.

(I've been addicted to Ponychan for more than two years with no major interruptions, so it's difficult to get out when you get in.)

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>> No. 1287613
>>1287494
Not a native German speaker, but I know enough to say this:

what you have there is an online toy shop making speculations about what might, could (könnte), possibly (vielleicht) be made in terms of merchandising based on the show. The stuff about Lego and Playmobil and the like is put in the conditional sense, as in "wouldn't it be neat if..." and the cinema movie is presented as a possibility/inevitability, not an ongoing project.

And then they say "And right now you can buy this stuff in our online store (click here)". There's no sources cited, no real facts stated, it's pretty much all as valid as what we've been discussing. Take it with a grain of salt ^^.

On the hair: my guess is it's a separate mesh from the body, since that makes it easier to link actions to it. It's how I'm making mine, at least. Although... yeah, it needs to be a separate mesh, otherwise they can't transfer blend shapes afterwards. Ie: if they decide to make a super deformed smile, they'd have to make that a shape for the body. Since the hairstyles clearly don't all have the same topology and vertex count, they'd have to either keep the body and hair meshes separate or move that shape onto all the bodies one at a time. If they keep the body meshes unique per character but replicated, then they can transfer blend shapes from the standard to the characters and update them all with simple copy-paste workflow. Still unwieldy for a big cast, but decidedly better option.
>> No. 1287648
>>1287494
I think whoever wrote that wasn't really interested in researching anything. There is a lot of "might be" and "could be" and nothing really of interest.
It would be weird if Leaf goes with her to the academy, she's Rose's mother! And Romeo and Cordelia are cousin and aunt.
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>>1287613
>>1287648
>The stuff about Lego and Playmobil and the like is put in the conditional sense, as in "wouldn't it be neat if..." and the cinema movie is presented as a possibility/inevitability, not an ongoing project.
>I think whoever wrote that wasn't really interested in researching anything. There is a lot of "might be" and "could be" and nothing really of interest.
Okay, at least we know now what it was about. I was wondering for a while if the article was made by a bot, especially with all the title drops, but tenses is probably the part about German I know the very least about. Thanks.

>It would be weird if Leaf goes with her to the academy, she's Rose's mother! And Romeo and Cordelia are cousin and aunt.
That would have ended up as a sitcom plot worthy of the early 90's strange-gimmick sitcoms.
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>>1287323
> I consider turquoise to be a shade of blue, instead of as a shade of green as the rest of my family thinks.
It's an in-between colour. People will argue either way, and sometimes be able to confuse themselves by seeing both.

Did you know that "orange" wasn't recorded as a colour name until the 1500s? Before that it was a word meaning "yellow-red" that was used, so. What people see as "separate" colours can change over time. My colour vision's about perfect and I can see turquoise as both green and blue, though sometimes my definition of "definitely orange" overlaps with other people's definition of "definitely yellow".

>McGonagall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJLpssiYcqI

>>so I don't really consider it a major thing unless it's really at the high end (some people with autism never learn to speak, even through sign language).
>I spent seven years at special learning facilities aimed at pupils with autism bad enough to not function in normal schools
Sounds like this is a talking point along with the non-USian thing! And I was applying to volunteer at a school for children at the high end of the spectrum, so I had to learn more about it for that, plus I got an interview (though sadly they never got back to me and I wasn't knowledgeable enough at the time to know that everyone needs to be chased up).

>>Ah, the direction the hair goes is actually set in Funtasia (unlike FIM)!
>FiM's animation very often got away with mirroring the character art when they needed to show their other sides. With the Fillys, it's much more important to use the actual other sides of the characters.
I don't know that they "get away" with it, they just used it right from the start. It works okay, but it's just one of a number of new challenges I've realised when drawing Fillies as opposed to FIM ponies. New head shapes, new eye proportions, different limb simplifications, harder to pinpoint the colours, more subtle hair styles, Rose has specific flower positioning that I should look into sometime, and if I want to try realistic shading then I'll have to be GOOD to compare at all to the official show. I should possibly come up with a better method for simplifying the crowns but... Eh.

>>1287362
>hair animation
Ah, 3D animation is something I'd like to learn more about but have yet to. It's a fast-moving industry though, no? How would you say Funtasia's new trailer compares to other things out now? I thought the first trailer compared pretty well to HTTYD's spinoff series' first season (not S2, but a lot of funding obviously got given to that, quite possibly for the film's upcoming sequel).

>>1287494
>Romeo, Leaf and Cordelia
So... Rose's family is moving to Funtasia, that's why she's new?

>movie
>shirts
>games
>jewellery
>costumes
This person's even more optimistic than us!

>Lego
Filly/Lego would be a better match than Hasbro/Lego...

I wonder if the MyFilly site will get a makeover before the series starts? It's not horrible but it could be a lot better, and personally I would change that if I were behind a new series.
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>>1287859
>Did you know that "orange" wasn't recorded as a colour name until the 1500s? Before that it was a word meaning "yellow-red" that was used, so. What people see as "separate" colours can change over time.
>My colour vision's about perfect
I can't say I knew that, but now I know. I consider my colour sight to be near-perfect and I have no problems distinguishing main colours unless the shades get really ambiguous.

>YouTube video
"Bloody brilliant", indeed, to quote Ron.

>Sounds like this is a talking point
So you want to hear more about my experiences? There were many advantages for me at the school, such as being able to cook warm lunches, take recesses whenever I wanted, no homework, free taxi rides back and forth, bonus visits to restaurants, and the curriculum was usually comparable to whichever class I was at, though it was compressed visibly. Every pupil at the schools had their own simple classroom, and an adult, sometimes two, to follow them around most of the time. One or two others were at the level where they could learn and do tasks out of a typical school book, but most were low-functioning enough that their education had things like communicating with picture signs, bare-basic behaviour around others and walking long walks in the forests. Many of the worse cases had additional diagnoses on top of the autism, including a few with muscle movement problems that left them wheelchair-bound and with very few people able to understand their sounds. Pretty much all of them behave unpredictably, and trying to give them messages for them to understand takes lots of training.

I was a pretty weird guy when I started there in 5th grade, and had improved enough to be considered a semi-feasible member of society when I left after 11th (1st year on upper secondary) and began to do well in integration with normal classes, but the total benefit collapse in the last year with obtrusive facility-students, no isolating walls in the library and gym, and only being able to cook once a week left me with a serious distaste for education, and that wasn't even the really big problems I had. Being reminded of bullying from normal pupils and teachers who couldn't handle outside criticism that had happened in the first school just doubled that distaste.

I probably have many more stories, but these are the bare basics.

>So... Rose's family is moving to Funtasia, that's why she's new?
It'll be the Beverly Funtasia Hillbillies all over again. Even though I have no clue what that show was even about.

>This person's even more optimistic than us!
I know. It reads like a list of every single category of merch that a toy-driven show can be feasibly expected to produce.

>I wonder if the MyFilly site will get a makeover before the series starts? It's not horrible but it could be a lot better, and personally I would change that if I were behind a new series.
They could generally need much more show material when the show approaches.
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>>1287494
Whoa, that thing mentions "Filly Funtasia" a grand total of 84 times. It mentions Filly Funtasia books, Filly Funtasia DVDs, Filly Funtasia T-Shirts, Filly Funtasia puzzles, Filly Funtasia basically anything.

The purpose of this is almost certainly search engine optimization, to pick up people googling for various Filly Funtasia-related things, whether or not those things actually exist.

(Funtasia Daily is also search engine optimized, but I try to be more subtle about it)
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>>1288371
>Whoa, that thing mentions "Filly Funtasia" a grand total of 84 times.
That's a whole lot. More repetition than in Justin Bieber's songs, even more than the trailer to Nymphoid Barbarian in Dinosaur Hell.

>The purpose of this is almost certainly search engine optimization, to pick up people googling for various Filly Funtasia-related things
>(Funtasia Daily is also search engine optimized, but I try to be more subtle about it)
I only thought that search optimisation were something you would find with virus sites or nonsensical Google hits for ringtones or MP3 downloads (Every single title of anything that has ever existed can be found as a download-virus-ad-site hit on Google if you go through enough result pages). But your site is generally on top of the Google results for Filly Funtasia, so you must be doing something right.
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>>1287859
I don't really keep track of the industry itself, I'm just trying to learn how to do it one step at a time. Part of the reason I took a break from ponies, FimFiction, and why I'm limiting myself to one post per day on here. But I guess a little background wouldn't hurt.

Mostly I got into 3D by dumb luck: I was looking for free programs to make games with, stumbled upon Blender. Been doing that on and off for several years, and only recently I've been doing it seriously enough to get a finished model. You can find him here: http://xeregon.deviantart.com/art/Nickel-the-raindeer-thunderbuck-whatever-418120153. Note that this is a first in several respects. I've been meaning to make a pony animation for about a year now, featuring my 'Fluttershy on steroids' OC, but it never got off the ground and with what happened with JanAnimations I figured it'd be better off as another fanfic, really. It's not worth the hassle if it can get pulled so easily. I did make some plans and I do have some idea of what goes into it, though. I have books on the topic, I mean.

Anyway, in terms of 3D animated movies I don't catch the most recent ones, I just umm, how do I put this... ah, what normal people call 'Christmas holidays', I call 'those two weeks I just tape whatever the BBC decides to air'. I'm a huge fan of the How to Train Your Dragon movie, I think it's Dreamworks' best, haven't seen the sequel trailer because apparently it has spoilers (another reason I'm avoiding FimFiction: too many spoilers while I'm avoiding Season 4), and haven't seen any full episodes because the Dutch dub makes it insufferable, pretty much. Ninja Turtles was a great reboot, right up to the latest season which is also insufferable because of the dub butchering my native tongue. The Maya reboot is a great children's series I would gladly let any of my potential hellspawn watch, and Sophia the First I've caught snippets of, and I liked what I saw. Care Bears I can't watch for too long, because the children's designs make them look slightly parasprite-ish, and Doc McStuffins looked okay from what I saw, but way too childish for me to sit through. I'm sure it's not as bad in English, and giving kids medical advice in a language they understand sounds like a great concept.

Now with all that said, where do the three FF trailers rank? The first one looked way too bright and pink, and the lens flare was over the top, especially at first. That's compositing; someone had to add that. Some of the shades around Rose were a little too marked as well, that's a lighting and materials thing. All in all, that looked more like the opening to a video game than a series.

Second trailer, with the cupcakes. Very nice details on the textures, especially Will. I can't remember seeing specularity maps used so cleverly (that's making the lips and glitter on the wings shinier than the rest of the body). The models are shown off with big closeups, so we see all the detail on their coats, and all the facial animation and best guess at topology. When you look at the toy site and see the 2D designs, there's a little curl going from the nose to the lip that's on, I think, every face. That's translated well to 3D. Good detail on reflections in floors and windows, too: you can see the stool Battiwigs is hit with from the window behind him. That's not really necessary for quick shots like that, and reflections take processing power, so it's showing effort. Besides which, the hair is simulated, not animated. You can see one of the strands in Lynn's mane push against her face as she talks. That's the sort of thing you typically see in movie productions, not as much in series. But in movies, if they go that far, they add particle hair. Contrast the Kung Fu Panda movie with the series and count how many hairs Po has in each. One will be a lot easier than the other.

Speaking of which, the character models themselves look inspired by the ones from Niko and the Way to the Stars (criminally underrated movie). I'm a big fan of that design and topology, even used it as an example for my own raindeer and going to use it for pony models in the future. That's the linked picture, btw, you can see how the facial expression is exagerrated to include the eye area. In FF they do something similar, but only up and down, not tilting the brow as much.

Then latest trailer. Lots of neat technical stuff being shown off here. Animated transparency, particle effects, rigs that let the Fillies sit comfortably without breaking their legs (this means you, Hasbro). I'm still not sure if they can spread their arms without stretching, but they shouldn't need to, I guess. No real closeups to show off the textures, but the background materials have been tweaked and the fill lights look brighter, I think. Haven't gotten to mastering lighting yet. More facial shapes being shown off, oh, and it looks like they're using baked Pixar eyes instead of the normal ones, that's another clever thing about it. With eyes that big, regular Pixar eyes can look like satellite dishes. I fully speculate on the rigs yet, but at the very least they have FK/IK switching on the legs, which is considered essential but tricky to set up in some programs (they made that into a single button in Blender :3). FK/IK determines if the hands move because you turn the arm, or if th earm bends because you're pulling the hand. One allows you to animate arcs better, the other is best for straight lines.

But compared to the rest? The textures are on the high end for a series, with spec maps thrown in to good effect. Princess Sophia only has colour maps, and I'm pretty sure those eyes are projected (ie painted on) whereas Filly eyes are the baked Pixar variety (meaning they made an eye with actual depth, took a picture and then mapped that data on an actual sphere, roughly spoken). The simulations for water and chocolate goo look low-grade, but at least they don't explode like in Food Fight. Being able to narrow pupils is fairly basic blend shape work, and it doesn't look like the Fillies can move their crowns (yet), but all in all I think it's pretty well made, technically. I hesitate to call it high-end, though, because I don't know what passes for high-end nowadays. But if you want to know what the bare minimum is with old technology, look up Elephant's Dream and Big Buck Bunny on the Blender Foundation channel. Those were advanced years ago, but those guys didn't have to cheat to make anything longer.
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>>1289958
I guess I can intercept into a few parts of this conversation:

>and why I'm limiting myself to one post per day on here
Ah, so that's where you've been. I guess I'll hope for that you get better in animation while not being too much on fan places.

I keep track of a whole lot of the animated show business myself, and give most new shows at least one try. I've also defended many Norwegian dubs of cartoons throughout the years, and I credit the dubs for getting me into FiM, salvaging the early parts of Regular Show and Jake and the Neverland Pirates (I'm getting into non-CGI territory here...), and giving fitting voices to the characters in Ed Edd 'n' Eddy and Fish Hooks, among other remarks. Only once (Ratchet & Clank: A Crack in Time) have I found a local dub of anything to be unlistenable. I'm also pretty well into Disney Junior's big 3, which includes Sofia the First and Doc McStuffins, and I watched the latter enough last autumn that it helped me with a dentist visit. Watching Doc McStuffins is sort of like Phineas & Ferb or Storage Wars: Once you get into the recurring patterns in each episode, you can't let go.

I also believe that the cupcakes trailer was known to the public one month earlier than the looking-at-butterflies trailer, making that the first one.

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>> No. 1290704
>>1289809
If it's well done, it's not noticeable for the user. The problem is that it gets abused by spammy sites a lot.

>>1290004
Yes, the butterfly trailer first appeared on WorldScreen in early November. It's possible it could have been produced earlier but released later, though.
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Tried a simpler style. Will colour soon probably
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With Time Lord apparently on an Easter break as I haven't seen her on Ponychan for two days and most of the textwall chat between me and her is thus on a break, there should be opportunities to ask more questions on the trailer to keep the thread going:

Why is the building complex that forms the Academy so tall and huge? As in Manhattan financial area-tier tall? A 30-metre-ish building at the "Over 66 million sold" mark may be the smallest self-standing building I see in the wide shots. And if the smaller buildings are this tall, the central tower could easily be >400m. How many students and/or citizens could there possibly be there, for one?

>>1292159
That's Rose and Lynn, right? It was simplified enough that I spent some seconds thinking who those two Fillys could be, but hopefully the colouring will make it more obvious.

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>>1292356
Ouch, that stings. I've been trying out different face shapes, so at least they shouldn't be too same-facey. Maybe I should make Lynn look fiercer? I personally think she may look tough outside, but she's all soft inside.
Also, have some of this guy.
>> No. 1292614
>>1292356
Also, I think the students probably live in the school as well. I wonder if they sleep in regular beds.
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>>1292356
>absence noticed
Ah, I'm alive! Just a busy couple of days.

I'll catch up on the thread. Sorry that the reply's kind of rushed!

>>Sounds like this is a talking point
>So you want to hear more about my experiences?
I was referring to how the other part of you "curse" could be called a talking point instead, but I'm always interested in hearing about different experiences!

I'm glad that the close supervision helped you get things under control. Bullying in schools is pretty awful, it's nice that it's starting to be taken more seriously. Bad teachers is also a problem, I'm not sure why that's still not better under control...

>>I wonder if the MyFilly site will get a makeover before the series starts? It's not horrible but it could be a lot better, and personally I would change that if I were behind a new series.
>They could generally need much more show material when the show approaches.
The site could look so pretty! And be more usable!

>The purpose of this is almost certainly search engine optimization, to pick up people googling for various Filly Funtasia-related things, whether or not those things actually exist.
Ah, makes sense.

>>1289958
Ah, the reindeer! I did look over the rest of your DA gallery over after reading your analysis.

>I've been meaning to make a pony animation for about a year now
I know that feeling.

>I'm a huge fan of the How to Train Your Dragon movie
Same! It's the film I'd been wanting to see since I was a little girl and it did it well. I'm avoiding the new film's trailer and trying not to get too overexcited about it, just in case it sucks, but I've seen the posters and they look good.

>FF effort
Nice. What animation errors could we expect to see with their techniques? (Is that a weird question? I figure it's easiest to see disadvantages through examples.)

>Speaking of which, the character models themselves look inspired by the ones from Niko and the Way to the Stars (criminally underrated movie).
[Googles] Oh, that looks cute! I will look out for it. Reindeer are underrated.

>Then latest trailer. Lots of neat technical stuff being shown off here.
Yay!

>Animated transparency, particle effects, rigs that let the Fillies sit comfortably without breaking their legs (this means you, Hasbro).
Is that a reference to my classroom analysis above? If not, did you read it?

>No real closeups to show off the textures, but the background materials have been tweaked and the fill lights look brighter, I think.
The colours have been beefed up, and the backgrounds are sharper. It's a nice change from the "too much pink" scenario.

>I fully speculate on the rigs yet, but at the very least they have FK/IK switching on the legs, which is considered essential but tricky to set up in some programs (they made that into a single button in Blender :3). FK/IK determines if the hands move because you turn the arm, or if th earm bends because you're pulling the hand. One allows you to animate arcs better, the other is best for straight lines.
Okay.

>The textures are on the high end for a series, with spec maps thrown in to good effect.
Woo!

>the baked Pixar variety (meaning they made an eye with actual depth, took a picture and then mapped that data on an actual sphere, roughly spoken).
Ah, I think I see what you mean!

>The simulations for water and chocolate goo look low-grade
Aye, but I'm hoping that won't be pushed too often.

Thanks for answering!

>>1290004
>dubs
I avoid dubs. Too often they're cheaply done or, worst, expensively get in non-voice-actor actors to do them: It doesn't work. There are some good dubs out there, but they're few and far between.

>>1292159
>>1292603
Aww, those are cute!

I don't think they're too unrecognisable, it's just that Lynn's hair covers her eye markings a bit and being into pony art means learning how to differentiate by hairstyle in uncoloured pics, and Filly hairstyles are more subtle in their differences. Besides, the Fillies currently DO have the same faces, so you doing something different won't instantly make it clear which is which.

I like the "Maybe?" Batty!

>>1292614
>Also, I think the students probably live in the school as well. I wonder if they sleep in regular beds.
I'd just kind of assumed that was the case, but I suppose it needn't be... Ah, so much yet to learn!

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>>1293227
>The site could look so pretty! And be more usable!
It looks pretty good to me, but they could have had some publically available activities and not relying so much on Flash (Java?) all over the site.

>Sorry that the reply's kind of rushed!
Don't worry, I do that too today.

>I'd just kind of assumed that was the case, but I suppose it needn't be... Ah, so much yet to learn!
>>1292614
I can't imagine that they don't live at school, as the Academy ought to have enough facilities to live in and that there doesn't appear to be any towns or villages in the Academy's surrounding area apart from the oddly looking farming buildings.

>>1292603
>Ouch, that stings.
I've had a cold for about three days, so I've found myself several times (especially IRL) to come off as grumpy or stingy when I've thought I was aiming at neutral or experiencive chatting. So I guess I'll apologise.
>> No. 1293941
>>1293227
Yes, I did read that analysis, and I quite liked it. I only really avoid pony episodes and Season 4 spoilers, so I didn't mind a look at something old. The only thing I found missing was the distinct lack of boys in the classroom. Unicorn boys are so rare that if you need one in a fanfic, you kinda need to make your own. Even boy's shows have token girls... but that's an aside.

Animation errors? Eh, kind of a trick question because 3D has a lot of setting up and a lot of things that can go wrong before an animator even gets started on it. But I have noticed a few little things in investigating the trailers. Here goes:

-the teeth and gums are not attached to the inside of the mouth. That's how most tutorials do it, it's standard practice, and it lets you save up on geometry. However, that means if the upper teeth are not properly in place, you can see a gap in between the gums and the roof of the mouth. Life's a Jungle has this happen when the panthress first shows up. One of the Fillies bursting through the door in the cupcakes trailer looks like she might have this issue. There's one girl who smiles way too broadly, and her teeth may have moved forward slightly.

-Because of how things are constructed, in terms of software, a shot needs to link to different files for characters to be inserted. Textures are separate files to be linked. If the files are moved, links can be broken and the software can end up looking for, say, textures that aren't in the right place. That's how colour maps can get switched around.

-The eyes are modeled to look good, not accurate. Alpha and Omega has Pixar eyes on big-eyed characters (the pups especially) that make it look really offputting from the side view. Even Penguins from Madagascar has this type of eyes, but Marlene's the only one where you can really tell. In Filly, the eyes are spheres, so from the side you can see the pupil bulging out slightly along with the iris, instead of seeing the eye be cut off. It's a tradeoff I agree with, but accuracy-hounds may protest.

-Likewise, and I'm not entirely sure of this one, but if each race has its own template model and its own base rig, then they need to make separate action loops for each race. Basically that means anything with added limbs (like, say, Fairy Fillies or Ally McCorn), will have a separate walk and run cycle from Elf, Princess, Witchy, and Unicorn. You'd only notice that in the background, though, if you never see Fairy Fillies running around. And I haven't gotten far enough to know if that's really an issue or not.

-Spreading the arms may cause some ugly deformation in the chest area. It depends on what the topology is for the chest and shoulders and if they can add corrective blend shapes to it. I did notice they keep their upper arms closer to the body in the second trailer, maybe someone noticed. Ditto on the neck and chest; standing on hind feet needs to be planned from the modeling stage, otherwise errors creep in. The latter two look fixed in the second trailer, actually. I'll post a pic of my Filly model once it's presentable to illustrate... if I can get it to work.
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>>1293938
>>The site could look so pretty! And be more usable!
>It looks pretty good to me, but they could have had some publically available activities and not relying so much on Flash (Java?) all over the site.
Well, the Filly faces are very samey, the site lags (which it really shouldn't with what's on it), the German version is a lot more complete, the house-designing interface is awkward to use and with surprisingly few customisation options, it's difficult to customise Fillies (e.g. slow to get to the shops and awkward to select areas to colour), and there is a LOT of pink. Funtasia looks to be a vibrantly colourful world with very expressive characters, and I think the site should reflect that.
>I think this is the best image on the site (despite the broken hind legs), and I had to screenshot it in the puzzle game and try to edit out the grid.

Don't get me wrong, the games aren't bad and it has some good ideas, so I've definitely seen worse sites. Honestly I'd rate Neopets lower for its disregard for security measures and awful lack of customer service (whilst still begging for real cash), but I think MyFilly would be a better site if it were more like the the upcoming show, and I'd be very surprised if it doesn't get a big makeover in preparation.

>>1293941
>Yes, I did read that analysis, and I quite liked it.
Yay!
>lack of males
Yeah, FIM does that, especially in Ponyville, and especially in earlier seasons. I generally give it a pass, but it's nice that Funtasia's aiming for equality from the start.

>-the teeth and gums are not attached to the inside of the mouth.
Ah, I've seen that before! The Ponylumen creator does it too. Hopefully they'll be careful about it.

>-Because of how things are constructed, in terms of software, a shot needs to link to different files for characters to be inserted. Textures are separate files to be linked. If the files are moved, links can be broken and the software can end up looking for, say, textures that aren't in the right place. That's how colour maps can get switched around.
So that's why you're more sure that the CredrElio of the classroom shot is an error? Fair enough...

>-The eyes are modeled to look good, not accurate.
...Sounds potentially weird...

>-Likewise, and I'm not entirely sure of this one, but if each race has its own template model and its own base rig, then they need to make separate action loops for each race. Basically that means anything with added limbs (like, say, Fairy Fillies or Ally McCorn), will have a separate walk and run cycle from Elf, Princess, Witchy, and Unicorn. You'd only notice that in the background, though, if you never see Fairy Fillies running around. And I haven't gotten far enough to know if that's really an issue or not.
So if Al's using the unicorn body then his wings may not interact with him properly?

>-Spreading the arms may cause some ugly deformation in the chest area.
To be fair, it doesn't look very good in FIM. At the very least, the ponies waving their arms around look horribly unbalanced... Then again, that's mostly because they're doing Tales' thing of just lifting their forelegs even when the hindquarters clearly aren't compensating.

Ah well. If it helps stop them doing humanoid things then I think that's a bonus. Such stuff leads to broken limbs and lazy translation of human action into equine action.
>> No. 1294604
>>1294534
In My Little Pony, the ponies are cartoony to the point the shoulder joints are not visible, and as such no deformations show. The arms can move however they want, and the torso and bellies can just change shape and it looks fine if you're not looking out for accuracy.

Little side note: this is part of the reason I cannot for the life of me make a proper picture of my OC. He's supposed to be a little kid with a very bulky and defined musculature, but the shoulder muscles never show on normal ponies. It's hard to figure out how to convey that build to 2D, which is why I'd sooner make a 3D model as a reference before trying again. Muscle definition just doesn't translate that well, not without proper references. So making one's the way to go ^^

Anyway, to do biped-quadruped switching with a 3D model, it needs to be modeled to allow for that, as well be rigged and weight painted properly, as well as posed naturally. If that doesn't work, corrective blend shapes. Blend shapes or shapekeys is when you move the vertices (points) of a model around one by one to get the shape, it's how facial expressions are constructed most of the time. Gollum from LotR, allegedly, had all his facial animation done with blend shapes. You can make corrections in the volume of muscles or flabs of fat hanging over using the same technique, and automate it with the rig to adjust every time. At least, in theory. I haven't seen any examples of a full switch from feral to anthro modes of walking... kind of an intimidating thought.

The eyes look better than they would with the standard method. The only real difference is that from the side, the pupil can be seen in front of the iris, rather than behind. It also means you don't see the skin of the eyelid slipping over toward the cavity that's present in such eyes. Here's the example I meant: http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q80/trungcang/H6/5337edf72154e_zps05339550.png~original The eyeball is just cut off, which is standard, but with eyes that big it looks freakish.

If each race has its own body, then Witchy, Unicorn, Princess, and Elf will have a rig without wings. Say they've got 25 bones, face included. Depending on the software, and again I'm not sure if this is an issue because I haven't gotten that far, the creators can make a walk or run cycle on those 25 bones and copy that to any rig with 25 bones. But Fairies and Alloiscius I. Corn will have a rig that has, what, 30 or 40 bones, respectively. A program can consider the 25-bone rigs to all be the same and copy-paste actions from one to the other, if the bones all have the same name. But the 30- and 40-bone rigs can count as completely different objects. So the routine actions programmed for unwinged races can't be copy-pasted to the winged ones. Again, that is if it works that way, I haven't gotten far enough to check and I'm putting wing bones on my template anyway because I'm lazy like that.

Wings, capes, manes, crowns, are most likely separate objects, simply because that's easier to handle and allows transfer of blend shapes. But these will interact with the body properly if they have the same rig. The wings will be stuck on and not part of the body mesh, but as long as the wingbase bones don't move it won't be noticeable: they'll remain in place and bend naturally instead of migrating up and down the back. Oh, and Unicorn Filly horns are attached to the skin, not bone. You can tell they parented the horn to whatever bone they move for frowning in the cupcakes trailer ("That's a monster!" shows one of the teachers moving her horn up and down. Little detail.)
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>>1294604
>Little side note: this is part of the reason I cannot for the life of me make a proper picture of my OC. He's supposed to be a little kid with a very bulky and defined musculature, but the shoulder muscles never show on normal ponies.
Big Mac's an example of the buff male pony model. If his younger form (seen in Cutie Mark Chronicles) is no good then generally I'd say to fatten the top of the limbs, make the torso stockier, and make the face less angular (like Big Mac's normal model has done).

>I haven't seen any examples of a full switch from feral to anthro modes of walking... kind of an intimidating thought.
...I can't imagine that looking good without some amount of transformation unless a bear's level of bipedal walking (or a human's level of quadruped walking) is fine.

>but with eyes that big it looks freakish.
Oh, that! Yeah, that looks freaky. A prominent pupil at least goes with the cartoony theme.

>Oh, and Unicorn Filly horns are attached to the skin, not bone. You can tell they parented the horn to whatever bone they move for frowning in the cupcakes trailer ("That's a monster!" shows one of the teachers moving her horn up and down. Little detail.)
Ooh, well spotted! I look forward to your analysis of Aliham Lincorn's animation once we see more of him.

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>> No. 1294794
>>1294738
The issue with Whimper (the OC) is that he's described as a bullhead (long story), which means his muscles are very defined. With Big Mac, you see his strength demonstrated, but no definition on his muscles. The only stallion that has definition is comedically huge and has very small hooves, which I can't use as a reference. Big Mac, as a child, doesn't look particularly strong and it's the appearance that makes the character a bullhead. Basically, I think I just need to sculpt out something final and then make a vector out of that. Can't keep changing it.

Alpha and Omega did get the wolves walking on two legs nicely, but the arms were definitely made for four-legged motion. So there is biped-to-quad switching, but not where they'd have human-ish motions quite yet. And yeah, the transforming would be what the corrective shapes are for.

The main difference between bird wings and fairy wings is that bird wings fold against the body, whereas fairy wings do not. So... using Rigify in Blender, I'd do fairy wings with a finger sample, and alicorn wings with an arm sample. Anatomical accuracy is just simpler to get right and keep track of.

(Twilight Sparkle:) "You can't fold your wings? How do you sleep?"

(Will:) "Pretty well, thank you."

Come to think of it, wouldn't it be cool if the Fillies shared rooms? Rose and Lynn bunking together, or Will and Cedric (ship ahoy!).

One more thing: is anyone making a Filly OC who has bat wings and is named Edward, as well as being Bella's love intrest? Because if Dracco's ever making Night Knight Fillies to cash in on the goth crowd, I'm expecting at least a Vladimir and an Edward. Seriously, it would print money.
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>>1293227
Another animation error that's a modeling error: eyelid movement. I just spent the better part of two hours trying to figure out a good way to make my Filly blink, and after another little run on the first trailer I can confirm with reasonable certainty that blinks are done with blend shapes aka shapekeys. That means a modeler has to grab the parts of the mesh and move them around to create the shapes, then program some bones to drive this deformation to make it easier to animate.

Two things typically go wrong here:
-shapes only interpolate linearly. This means that every point, even if it ends up forming a sphere (like an eyelid), will end up going along a straight line as it moves into position, which can lead to the surface of the eye becoming visible as they blink.

-the shapes don't mix well. Making a smile shape where the mouth opens slightly and having another shape to curl the upper lip that also opens the mouth can lead to some really weird distensions when added to a shape meant to actually open the mouth. Attentive character modelers will check if the shapes blend together well, or they'll just model full expressions and split those up across different areas of the mesh. For example, they can make an 'angry' face, copy that five times, then make it so each 'angry' only affects eyes, mouth, cheeks, that sort of thing.

One way around the first problem is to make several blend shapes as stopping points to approximate a spherical path. Another way around it is to overcompensate and make the eyelid really swell over so it never clips. See pic for possible example of such overcompensating on the right eye.

It also hard as nails to make a character blink in cartoon style, ie not having the upper lid rotate naturally. The cheat for that, I may save for a tutorial when I have the time ^^.

Happy Easter, everyone.
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>>1294794
>>1296961
Happy Easter! Hope you had a good one!

Good luck with your OC! Something to be said for just going ahead with a plan even if you're not sure how it will turn out.

>Come to think of it, wouldn't it be cool if the Fillies shared rooms?
I thought they might.
>Rose and Lynn bunking together,
Well, of cour-
>or Will and Cedric (ship ahoy!).
I love it already!

>One more thing: is anyone making a Filly OC who has bat wings and is named Edward, as well as being Bella's love intrest? Because if Dracco's ever making Night Knight Fillies to cash in on the goth crowd, I'm expecting at least a Vladimir and an Edward. Seriously, it would print money.
Haha, perfect!

>Another animation error that's a modeling error: eyelid movement.
>See pic for possible example of such overcompensating on the right eye.
Well, them overcompensating to avoid the eye coming through the eyelid is preferable to it coming through, to me. It's a lot easier to ignore.

>-the shapes don't mix well. Making a smile shape where the mouth opens slightly and having another shape to curl the upper lip that also opens the mouth can lead to some really weird distensions when added to a shape meant to actually open the mouth. Attentive character modelers will check if the shapes blend together well, or they'll just model full expressions and split those up across different areas of the mesh. For example, they can make an 'angry' face, copy that five times, then make it so each 'angry' only affects eyes, mouth, cheeks, that sort of thing.
What do you think of Ponylumen, by the way? I'd say it's pretty good on account of the options for expressions (obviously you can abuse it, e.g. by putting them all up to full or have the mouth clearly come away from the teeth) but you can do a lot with them that looks good!
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Hello everyone! I just installed a new commenting system on Funtasia Daily. It's the same system that a certain other blog that ends with "Daily" uses. The old posts that already have comments on them should continue to use the old system (that way, no comments are lost) while new posts should use the new one. Please let me know if there are any problems with it.
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Merry Easter to you guys too. I may not be able to follow along on every conversation here, but I'm always ready for things that happen here. Except when I sleep.

>>1298680
The new comment system was easier to use than I expected, and I don't think I encountered any actual problems with it (The fact that guest accounts are limited to greyscale faceless pictures isn't much of a legit problem). It was a pretty detailed roundup you wrote, though I found myself only having something to talk more about on a few of the remarks.

I do notice that fan naming by Funtasians aren't as immediate as fan naming by early bronies. Where bronies could turn names like Steven Magnet and Derpy Hooves widespread in what felt like hours with few other names popping up, Fillychan has been credited for Alicornator (by Raichu') and Brainy (the trailer roundup) at times where the names had shuffled furthermore even by the time of the crediting (Name rotation and Elio respectively at the time I write this).

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>> No. 1298853
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>>1298680
Nice trailer followup! I hadn't caught that Bella's mirror-summoning scene could be the bit where she contacts Sparkle.

>Here's some scene-linking evidence! There's stuff (like Rose) in the way, but the stuff on the wall makes it obvious.

>>1298714
>Where bronies could turn names like Steven Magnet and Derpy Hooves widespread in what felt like hours with few other names popping up
I didn't start watching until a bit before S2, but wasn't Derpy called Bright Eyes a lot at first? That's what I heard.
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>>12998853
>I didn't start watching until a bit before S2, but wasn't Derpy called Bright Eyes a lot at first? That's what I heard.
In screencaps of the 4chan thread where she was discovered, the name Derpy was brought up very quickly. The cap I found on Derpibooru seems to have been tampered with in several ways, but Derpy Hooves was quickly called. It's been really long since I heard the name Bright Eyes, and so I can't remember how often she was used, but Ditzy Doo was a serious contender from either WWU or one of Lauren Faust's statements on her (whichever was first), to mid-2012.

>Here's some scene-linking evidence! There's stuff (like Rose) in the way, but the stuff on the wall makes it obvious.
>I hadn't caught that Bella's mirror-summoning scene could be the bit where she contacts Sparkle.
There's more hidden connections in this one-minute trailer than a full Series of Poirot, and in contrast to him, the mysteries of Filly Funtasia aren't completely solved in a few days.

So Rose and Elio are looking through either an old library (if Batti and Mirror are the ones that shouldn't be there) or a secret base with more comfort than the cell in the first trailer (if Rose and Elio shouldn't be there)?
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(Image dump 1/6)

While I was shopping at the local grocery store today, I decided to pick up the Filly magazine for once. It had Bella on the cover, so I figured that this issue's comic was going to be genius. She didn't have much of a role there as it turned out (Her main feature was a two-pager Did You Know thing about her "bird friends"), but there was still a 6-page comic there worth translating. I hope it's any good for you to read.
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2/6
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4/6

I tried early on to add some small extra jokes to the story like the translators of the German MLP comics used to do, but the opportunities to do that got fewer as the story progressed.
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And 6/6. Complete.

The last page had one or two jokes that were difficult to translate and the English substitutes I chose for them were maybe a bit too erring, but I gave this story my best and most upbeat shot. Bon appetit.
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>>1298868
>Derpy stuff
Fair enough!

>There's more hidden connections in this one-minute trailer than a full Series of Poirot, and in contrast to him, the mysteries of Filly Funtasia aren't completely solved in a few days.
Haha, there is quite a bit!

>So Rose and Elio are looking through either an old library (if Batti and Mirror are the ones that shouldn't be there) or a secret base with more comfort than the cell in the first trailer (if Rose and Elio shouldn't be there)?
Seems that way!

Revisiting the Elio-Batti theory: I wonder if our Mirror Wiz has any shape-copying abilities or such, what with the mirror thing?

>>1301645
>>1301647
>>1301648
>>1301650
>>1301651
>>1301653
Not quite as amazing as the choose-your-own-adventure FIM story I found in one magazine (I had Cadence and Silver Spoon hide from a changeling in a teapot, but then they had to go get dresses), but not bad! Bit of an... Odd way to mark out fruit, but why not? Reminds me of MLP G1's S1.
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>>1301960
>Revisiting the Elio-Batti theory: I wonder if our Mirror Wiz has any shape-copying abilities or such, what with the mirror thing?
I don't really think so. Even though he's a mirror with lots of potential, he seems to me to be basically a talking smiley that can't move much, and shapeshifting would contrast a lot with that.

>Seems that way!
Speaking of which, what does the two gems in the chest that Batti and Mirror fall into do? Are they just for money? Are they magical? Could they transform characters, and if so, could not only Batti be Elio, but the Mirror be Al Pacorn? My brain is so tired that it thinks of whatever strange stuff it comes up with...

>Not quite as amazing as the choose-your-own-adventure FIM story I found in one magazine (I had Cadence and Silver Spoon hide from a changeling in a teapot, but then they had to go get dresses)
I didn't even know that Silver Spoon figured in the FiM magazines, so that must have been quite a chosen story.

>but not bad! Bit of an... Odd way to mark out fruit, but why not? Reminds me of MLP G1's S1.
Yes. Compared to the old German FiM comics, this one had better artwork and a plot expectation subversion (The first two pages gave me the impression of a "Tumbling around makes all the fun" ending), though a plot revolving around ice cream and indeed the raspberry faces, wasn't all that interesting at first.
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>>1303846
>>Revisiting the Elio-Batti theory: I wonder if our Mirror Wiz has any shape-copying abilities or such, what with the mirror thing?
>I don't really think so. Even though he's a mirror with lots of potential, he seems to me to be basically a talking smiley that can't move much, and shapeshifting would contrast a lot with that.
>Speaking of which, what does the two gems in the chest that Batti and Mirror fall into do? Are they just for money? Are they magical? Could they transform characters, and if so, could not only Batti be Elio, but the Mirror be Al Pacorn? My brain is so tired that it thinks of whatever strange stuff it comes up with...
I think I suggest the Mirror as Weird Al Yancornvic earlier, but in this case I was thinking more of him helping Batti copy existing forms.

(After all this it will be weird if Elio IS just another student!)

>>Not quite as amazing as the choose-your-own-adventure FIM story I found in one magazine (I had Cadence and Silver Spoon hide from a changeling in a teapot, but then they had to go get dresses)
>I didn't even know that Silver Spoon figured in the FiM magazines, so that must have been quite a chosen story.
She was the weirder choice of Cadence's companion in that story, I think (like the teapot wasn't the obvious hiding place)... I must scan or photo some of the magazines sometime, there doesn't seem to be an online source for them and that particular one was a must!

>comic
Fillies eating faces is weird. Was there a pun in the fruit name before its translation, do you know? I wonder if "Poison Joke" translates poorly...
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>>1303846
>that pic
It's a shame the water's reflection is a bit weird, we see the bottom of the hooves at some points, I believe. Still, at least it's subtle...
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>>1304177
>Was there a pun in the fruit name before its translation, do you know? I wonder if "Poison Joke" translates poorly...
The original term in the comic was "Sprøbringebær". I took sprø in this case to only mean looney/crazy/bonkers, but it could also mean crunchy or crispy. The FiM dub up here didn't get the Poison Joke pun (and neither did I for years), leaving it as "giftig spøk", poisonous jest.

>(After all this it will be weird if Elio IS just another student!)
That'd be a moment of shock for all of us, but that doesn't mean can't try to finally find the answers to the trailers' mysteries.

>I think I suggest the Mirror as Weird Al Yancornvic earlier, but in this case I was thinking more of him helping Batti copy existing forms.
I do vaguely recall this being brought up by you earlier. But does the Mirror even have his own magic he can use? So I currently doubt that Mirror has what it takes to aid Battiwigs with magic.

I can imagine an episode plot now using my pseudo-eureka moment, but I doubt it'll sound any good: Battiwigs and Mirror are taking it easy in their base formed out of an old library (the Mirror chair scene), when the two look at some old gems they found in old chest that had been abandoned by the base's old keeper. The two look at the gems and fall into it (gem fall scene), landing on different gems. The two suddenly find themselves as unnatural Fillys in the schoolyard (the blue beam landing on grass scene), and have few other options than going to the classroom as new students to find out what has happened (all the classroom scenes), and how to either exploit it or turning back to their mirror/bat forms. Rose happens to know surprisingly much about this (hoofwave scene), and whichever option the two land on, they then begin their journey in the caverns along with Rose (cavern scenes) with a blue gem brought along that has something to do with it. They come across the base at one point, with Elio having enough knowledge about the place to make Rose worried (Rose and Elio library scene).

>>1304179
Water and proper reflections seem to be difficult to do in CGI, at least in games. So every subtle detail matters.
>> No. 1306626
>>1301645
But how do they hold the icecream?
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>>1306626
Probably magnets. Magnets have been blamed for everything from timezones to friendship [www.youtube.com], so they probably have their say on prehensile hoof-ends too.
>> No. 1306645
>>1303846
It would be a little bit odd to have that deep voice come out of handsome Alicorn's mouth but it would certainly be interesting!
Also, calling all the name creators here to make names for the Wizard, as "Wizard of the Dark Mirror" is always too long to type out and "Wizard" is so impersonal.
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>>1304685
>>Was there a pun in the fruit name before its translation, do you know? I wonder if "Poison Joke" translates poorly...
>The original term in the comic was "Sprøbringebær". I took sprø in this case to only mean looney/crazy/bonkers, but it could also mean crunchy or crispy.
I guess that makes more sense...
>The FiM dub up here didn't get the Poison Joke pun (and neither did I for years), leaving it as "giftig spøk", poisonous jest.
It's a shame when puns are lost...! Kids shows don't even get the translators' notes about it, do they?

>But does the Mirror even have his own magic he can use? So I currently doubt that Mirror has what it takes to aid Battiwigs with magic.
He is a wizard and has established a cross-dimensional communication link. Could be that Batti's medallion used to be the wizard's, and that it helps focus what powers the Wizard has in this world? That or it could just be a symbol of his affiliation or one of the riches Batti was promised... Or just a necklace...

I'm inclined to believe that the Mirror Wizard has magic and that Batti either helps him or is learning from him.

>(the blue beam landing on grass scene)
Isn't that the blue gem from the cave scene landing?

We need a bingo for these guesses!

>Rose happens to know surprisingly much about this (hoofwave scene)
Maybe she volunteers to show them around? Would also explain the surprise of her friends, given that she's the new Filly there herself.

>with Elio having enough knowledge about the place to make Rose worried (Rose and Elio library scene).
If Batti does get changed in that room (by choice or by the gems in the chest), Rose could be asking how he got in there if she didn't see him enter and he'd be making excuses about not consorting with evil mirrors.

The room seems to be lit differently when Rose is there, though: >>1298853 The background markings are thicker/brighter: I was thinking maybe they're glowing, so it's an evening/night scene (and just looks brighter because there are a lot of lights but few windows)?

>>1306626
>>1306635
I like to think of FIM hooves as suckers, but I want to go with something more like velcro for Filly hooves...
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>>1306645
True, but imagine him trying to do a more charming accent, and then it fits a bit better, I think?

I've tended towards Mr Mirror/Mirror Wizard/the wizard.

Wizzy is an option.
>> No. 1306676
Back from a week of both sickness and thesis work, some of which simultaneous (ugh).

>>1304685
Water and reflection aren't really that hard to set up, because the machine does it for you, but it is memory-intensive to render. Some cheats may be in order, like playing an animated texture instead of doing proper reflective surfaces. Those can cause errors. In fully accurate mode, it has something to do with buffer shadows and ray-traced shadows, I think. Ray-traced is physically accurate, but more intensive.

>>1306650
I'd like to vote for something that's not Wiz or Wizzie, as that happens to be a nickname of mine in some furry chatrooms and if we're going to use that, well... the associations are a little awkward, let's say. (What innuendo?)

* ahem * Anywho, I vote for Vanity, after Vanity Smurf. Unless we're using more politician names as proxies, in which case this may take some research...
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>>1306645
>>1306650
Newman? Megachrome? Mira? Reflet?

>>1306647
>Kids shows don't even get the translators' notes about it, do they?
For every pun they got surprisingly right (Ursa Major, Huff the magic dragon, Mare in the Moon), they fumbled on another one (Canis Major, the supernatural cure book, Discord's riddle) and sometimes heavily. It seems to me that most of the translating had to be done based on the translator's English skills, and those skills failed sometimes.

>Isn't that the blue gem from the cave scene landing? We need a bingo for these guesses!
Yes, it seems to be that. Good spotting. I've never been good at making bingos as I can never find enough guesses to fill 24 spots, but things like "Mermaid appearance", "Sports episode" and "Al and Elio not being themselves" would be things I'd put in something like that.

>Maybe she volunteers to show them around? Would also explain the surprise of her friends, given that she's the new Filly there herself.
Maybe that's where Alister Cornley's fall in the forest comes in? Rose shows the around in the garden, they find the blue orb that has just fallen down, falls down a rabbithole and into the caverns.

>The room seems to be lit differently when Rose is there, though: >>1298853 The background markings are thicker/brighter: I was thinking maybe they're glowing, so it's an evening/night scene (and just looks brighter because there are a lot of lights but few windows)?
Seems to me like how sun comes in through a window differently (and gives more sunlight) at different times of the day. The picture on the right seems like a daytime scene due to a window in the upper right showing a blue sky, so the one to the left may be either earlier or later in the day.
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>>1306676
>illness and work
Ah, hope you feel better soon!

>Some cheats may be in order, like playing an animated texture instead of doing proper reflective surfaces. Those can cause errors.
Like the bottoms of hooves showing on reflective surfaces they're walking next to?

Then again, I think the rich set layout looks better than the upcoming Postman Pat movie (even with art styles taken into account), so I still think Funtasia's in a good place for quality, even if it doesn't have the time/resources to do hair effects and such at a film level.

>I'd like to vote for something that's not Wiz or Wizzie, as that happens to be a nickname of mine in some furry chatrooms
Noted.

>>1306695
>>Kids shows don't even get the translators' notes about it, do they?
>For every pun they got surprisingly right (Ursa Major, Huff the magic dragon, Mare in the Moon), they fumbled on another one (Canis Major, the supernatural cure book, Discord's riddle) and sometimes heavily. It seems to me that most of the translating had to be done based on the translator's English skills, and those skills failed sometimes.
Ah, that's a shame... Bit weird the system hasn't been worked out better by now, e.g. someone who knows the original language well pointing out the puns so that the translators have a chance to try. I wonder if any translators add more in than they miss out...

>I've never been good at making bingos as I can never find enough guesses to fill 24 spots, but things like "Mermaid appearance", "Sports episode" and "Al and Elio not being themselves" would be things I'd put in something like that.
I guess we should wait until closer to the first ep... Hm. I wonder when we should expect new content. The costs of delaying 'til 2015 must be something they thought was worth it by boosting the graphics and so on, but then I'd expect them to make a bigger deal of their product to help the investment pay off.

I shall predict:
- Another small clip, like trailer 2, within the next couple of months.
- The site getting makeover (meaning MyFilly, but probably FillyFuntasia.com too around the same time)
- A burst of fuss when we're close.

>Alister Cornley
Ooh, I like that one!

There's so much to speculate on! Now I'm greedy for more content, haha...

>>The room seems to be lit differently when Rose is there, though: >>1298853 The background markings are thicker/brighter: I was thinking maybe they're glowing, so it's an evening/night scene (and just looks brighter because there are a lot of lights but few windows)?
>Seems to me like how sun comes in through a window differently (and gives more sunlight) at different times of the day. The picture on the right seems like a daytime scene due to a window in the upper right showing a blue sky, so the one to the left may be either earlier or later in the day.
Maybe, but the markings on the wall (above Batti's head in the first pic) definitely look to be glowing in the second one, and the light on the wall (above Rose's head) seems to be on, too. Maybe they just leave them on sometime.
>> No. 1308721
>>1307491

>Ah, hope you feel better soon!
Mostly just tired and frustrated with some stuff, but the fever only lasted a day or two, that's a plus. Thankchu ^^

>Like the bottoms of hooves showing on reflective surfaces they're walking next to?

>Then again, I think the rich set layout looks better than the upcoming Postman Pat movie (even with art styles taken into account), so I still think Funtasia's in a good place for quality, even if it doesn't have the time/resources to do hair effects and such at a film level.

Oh, definitely. Part of the reason I like it so much is because it is a 3D animated series using its medium to its advantage, instead of trying to be something it's not. The reflections may be accurate, even; it almost looks like Rose's hind hoof is about to slip in. Not artsy enough to be sure, though. Might be camera angle, ray tracing, [insert more random 3D terminology here], or something along those lines. Me, I'm just happy they added that in the first place. Little bits of added effort like that can help it stand out compared to other series which focus on other details. Sets can be more detailed in 3D, too, since you can bake lighting information to it, unlike with moving characters (I think).

>I guess we should wait until closer to the first ep... Hm. I wonder when we should expect new content. The costs of delaying 'til 2015 must be something they thought was worth it by boosting the graphics and so on, but then I'd expect them to make a bigger deal of their product to help the investment pay off.

I think most of the 'boosted graphics' are just post-production, really, so the biggest costs in making it (modeling, rigging, animating, simulating) have already been incurred. Maybe they're re-rendering things with a different light setup, in which case the costs can go up a bit, but right now it definitely looks like an economical/marketing move more than anything else. It'd suck if this thing came out right at a time when some other franchise with small horses brings out a product that's generally loathed by its fans (not that any candidates come to mind). They need to release it at a time when small talking horses are seen positively, or even generally ignored. The more the show can stand on its own merits, the better. They may need to work on their advertising material in the meantime. Keep in mind, this is supposed to be part of a multi-platform expansion: apps, games, that kind of stuff takes time to... well, time, and organise.

Also, does this tune sound familiar to anyone? I can't help but think the Filly theme was inspired by it, just ever so slightly. Probably just hearing things that aren't there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZAZ4JgoqkQ
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>>1307491
>Bit weird the system hasn't been worked out better by now, e.g. someone who knows the original language well pointing out the puns so that the translators have a chance to try. I wonder if any translators add more in than they miss out...
That could have been a pretty good system, but I get the feeling that show-dubbing companies are working on pretty strict budgets. The Scandinavian FiM S1 dubs also had some strange additions to Equestria's schizo-tech: Norway was pretty fond of Christmas, both in the WWU song and by replacing the Fu Manchu beard with Santa Claus. Denmark referred to western movies as early as Applebuck Season. Sweden had beacons and computers in Pinkie's fudge speak.

Then there's a few bizarre customs, such as how giving someone a call is considered to be about a phone call, even in shows with no phones. Both FiM (Gilda leaving the party), Sofia the First and Doc McStuffins has been hit by jarring cases of this. But S3 (which also covers S2 after IAT) is scheduled to begin here tomorrow, which I plan to watch closer than I did with S2, so I'll probably find new details of interest to praise or complain about.

>I think the rich set layout looks better than the upcoming Postman Pat movie
>Postman Pat movie
*looks up trailer #2* This took me by surprise, and even though it's established to not trust trailers, this trailer makes it a bit tempting to watch the movie.

>The costs of delaying 'til 2015 must be something they thought was worth it by boosting the graphics and so on, but then I'd expect them to make a bigger deal of their product to help the investment pay off.
They must have really big faith in how popular the show will become. If this is going to pay off, they need to make it the new Monster High by virtue of popularity and merch sales, and so I guess that the delay was done to plan more show-related merch.

>Maybe, but the markings on the wall (above Batti's head in the first pic) definitely look to be glowing in the second one, and the light on the wall (above Rose's head) seems to be on, too. Maybe they just leave them on sometime.
The light seems to be on, but the wall markings doesn't appear to be glowing by itself in my eyes. They look more to me like they reflect light like gold.

>Ooh, I like that one!
I try my best.

>>1308721
>Also, does this tune sound familiar to anyone? I can't help but think the Filly theme was inspired by it, just ever so slightly. Probably just hearing things that aren't there.
I don't hear enough of a similarity for me to see a proper connection between the two, unfortunately. I hear a tiny similarity, but not much.
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>>1308783
>I don't hear enough of a similarity for me to see a proper connection between the two, unfortunately. I hear a tiny similarity, but not much.

Must just be the familiarity, then. Never mind.
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>>1308721
>it is a 3D animated series using its medium to its advantage, instead of trying to be something it's not.
Agreed! Not just 3D because it's in right now.

>The reflections may be accurate, even; it almost looks like Rose's hind hoof is about to slip in.
What I mean is most obvious when Elio steps forward towards the end of the clip: He's on the side, his reflections's hoof is against the surface.

>Me, I'm just happy they added that in the first place. Little bits of added effort like that can help it stand out compared to other series which focus on other details.
Agreed.

>Sets can be more detailed in 3D, too, since you can bake lighting information to it, unlike with moving characters (I think).
I think the reason most 3D shows/films are doing that now is mostly because it helps to avoid uncanny valley (which often happens when cartoon characters look too "realistic") whilst still showing off their 3D textures/etc with detailed backgrounds.

There are a lot of advantages to both 3D and 2D but I think 2D makes much more use of its advantages because there's been so much time for people to learn what they are.

>I think most of the 'boosted graphics' are just post-production, really, so the biggest costs in making it (modeling, rigging, animating, simulating) have already been incurred. Maybe they're re-rendering things with a different light setup, in which case the costs can go up a bit, but right now it definitely looks like an economical/marketing move more than anything else.
Maybe, but then why release a trailer in the first place if the backgrounds/textures on at least those clips weren't finished? Certainly the models/etc are the big bits, but it looks to me like more effort's been put into the colours beyond the sharpness.

Besides, I didn't just mean those costs: To say it was 2014 before implies people were investing in it for then, and unless the buyers turned it down then BRB made some losses there. I'm not familiar with how those deals work, but at the very least they'd have to disappoint potential business partners by denying new content and missed out on the immediate return for the money invested in the show in the first place.

>It'd suck if this thing came out right at a time when some other franchise with small horses brings out a product that's generally loathed by its fans (not that any candidates come to mind).
Speaking of, does anyone know what
>these are?

And on Taobao I also found a Squinkie-esque Filly set and an "Erazy" (eraser Filly) set. Why aren't these around the UK? Erazy Fairy Fillies look pretty good!

>They need to release it at a time when small talking horses are seen positively, or even generally ignored. The more the show can stand on its own merits, the better.
At the moment doesn't it seem likely to line up with FIM S5?

>They may need to work on their advertising material in the meantime. Keep in mind, this is supposed to be part of a multi-platform expansion: apps, games, that kind of stuff takes time to... well, time, and organise.
True...

>Also, does this tune sound familiar to anyone? I can't help but think the Filly theme was inspired by it, just ever so slightly. Probably just hearing things that aren't there.
I can't hear it... Maybe they were both inspired by something older?

>>1308783
>The Scandinavian FiM S1 dubs also had some strange additions to Equestria's schizo-tech: Norway was pretty fond of Christmas, both in the WWU song and by replacing the Fu Manchu beard with Santa Claus. Denmark referred to western movies as early as Applebuck Season. Sweden had beacons and computers in Pinkie's fudge speak.
...Wow! Weird...

>Then there's a few bizarre customs, such as how giving someone a call is considered to be about a phone call, even in shows with no phones.
So... They'll translate "call" to "phone call" every time?

>so I'll probably find new details of interest to praise or complain about.
Yay analysis!

>>I think the rich set layout looks better than the upcoming Postman Pat movie
>>Postman Pat movie
>*looks up trailer #2* This took me by surprise, and even though it's established to not trust trailers, this trailer makes it a bit tempting to watch the movie.
1:06 of the site's trailer and Tennant as a voice actor are the main appeals for me. Don't think it'll get me to the cinema but I might watch it if it's on TV at a rare occasion of me looking through channels.

>>The costs of delaying 'til 2015 must be something they thought was worth it by boosting the graphics and so on, but then I'd expect them to make a bigger deal of their product to help the investment pay off.
>They must have really big faith in how popular the show will become. If this is going to pay off, they need to make it the new Monster High by virtue of popularity and merch sales, and so I guess that the delay was done to plan more show-related merch.
>the new Monster High
Last I checked, MH was doing better than MLP. Still, I hope Filly branches out more to the UK with the new stuff, my local Toys R Us hasn't restocked any Filly stuff in months, and we never got more than a few fuzzy figure sets and some blind bags (the latter of which disappeared quickly).

>>Maybe, but the markings on the wall (above Batti's head in the first pic) definitely look to be glowing in the second one, and the light on the wall (above Rose's head) seems to be on, too. Maybe they just leave them on sometime.
>The light seems to be on, but the wall markings doesn't appear to be glowing by itself in my eyes. They look more to me like they reflect light like gold.
You can see that the lines are finer on the close-up though, so they must be doing something unless it's a bizarre animation error.
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>>1308938
>At the moment doesn't it seem likely to line up with FIM S5?

No idea. I'm not following pony anymore 'till September; I wasn't even aware there was a Season 5.

>Maybe, but then why release a trailer in the first place if the backgrounds/textures on at least those clips weren't finished? Certainly the models/etc are the big bits, but it looks to me like more effort's been put into the colours beyond the sharpness.

The backgrounds and textures were finished, it's the lighting that changed and post-processing, at least as far as I can tell. As to why they'd release something that's not finished, maybe they were testing the waters, get some feedback. Project Gooseberry released its trailer before they even had a script. Granted, that was to get more funding for it, but still...

>Besides, I didn't just mean those costs: To say it was 2014 before implies people were investing in it for then, and unless the buyers turned it down then BRB made some losses there. I'm not familiar with how those deals work, but at the very least they'd have to disappoint potential business partners by denying new content and missed out on the immediate return for the money invested in the show in the first place.

Maybe. We'll just have to wait and see, I suppose.
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>>1308938
>They'll translate "call" to "phone call" every time?
From what I can hear, yes. They had Clover in Sofia the First exclaim "I'll get my princess to phone your princess!".

>1:06 of the site's trailer and Tennant as a voice actor are the main appeals for me.
I can certainly see why those parts appeal to you. For me, the Patbot 3000 town rampage and Pat's publicity campaign seemed pretty interesting by the trailer, but I can also imagine how much less interesting it'd be in the movie proper where they need to keep a more normal pacing (I did use the word 'pacing' correct this time, I hope? In contrast to when it was used on /pony/ all the time?).

>Last I checked, MH was doing better than MLP. Still, I hope Filly branches out more to the UK with the new stuff, my local Toys R Us hasn't restocked any Filly stuff in months (...)
I'm still somewhat surprised by the magnitude of Monster High's popularity, so that's probably not a benchmark I'm qualified to compare other cartoons too; but if Pokémon once became the world's thrill through a hugely advertised multi-media launch, then Filly could aim for that, though at a much, much smaller scale. Are there any other toy stores at your place? I've found that my Toys 'R' Us stock much less Filly than a smaller store (800m2-ish) just a hundred metres away.

>Speaking of, does anyone know what >these are?
I can't find anything on Google by looking up "filly toy knockoff". At least not any toyset that could be called Filly ripoffs. So I'm out of ideas.
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>>1309047
>>At the moment doesn't it seem likely to line up with FIM S5?
>No idea. I'm not following pony anymore 'till September; I wasn't even aware there was a Season 5.
It's S4 showing right now and S5 is confirmed, so I imagined they'll go for late 2014/early 2015 to start S5 (probably late 2014, given other seasons).

>>Maybe, but then why release a trailer in the first place if the backgrounds/textures on at least those clips weren't finished? Certainly the models/etc are the big bits, but it looks to me like more effort's been put into the colours beyond the sharpness.
>The backgrounds and textures were finished, it's the lighting that changed and post-processing, at least as far as I can tell.
Ah, I meant the extra-silvery cake tray lid by "textures" but I guess the texture wouldn't have changed.
>As to why they'd release something that's not finished, maybe they were testing the waters, get some feedback.
Like "emphasis the magic and friendships and multiple stories so that people can come up with theories about Batti being Elio"? I don't doubt that, but I still don't get why they wouldn't cut those scenes out and take them up to the expected graphics level just for a better first impression. I suppose it's possible that they just didn't think a toy spin-off series would attract much attention.
>Project Gooseberry released its trailer before they even had a script.
Haha, really? Crazy.

For comparison:
- Invizimal's trailer is almost exactly the same, scene for scene. We can see a very SLIGHT lighting changes in some scenes, e.g. the walls in the dancing-about-a-cave bit and some of the blue blurs have gone from the running-away-in-a-forest bit, but the sharpness hadn't changed at all.
- Mica's trailer has had the music changed to sound less cool and more unique, but the scenes look about the same to me. The bus is different in one but I suspect that's a one-off thing.

Couldn't find scenes to compare for Canimals and the ZooBabu clips used seem to need me to pay to see them at the moment, but they're both online now so I assume they're not too different.

Ah well. Hopefully they'll let us know sometime.

>>1309421
>>They'll translate "call" to "phone call" every time?
>From what I can hear, yes. They had Clover in Sofia the First exclaim "I'll get my princess to phone your princess!".
Haha, so modern!

>(I did use the word 'pacing' correct this time, I hope? In contrast to when it was used on /pony/ all the time?).
Were they misusing it? They did say it a lot for a while...

And Postman Pat will hopefully be fun.

>Are there any other toy stores at your place?
I've never seen any Filly merch in the smaller toy shop near me.

>I can't find anything on Google by looking up "filly toy knockoff". At least not any toyset that could be called Filly ripoffs. So I'm out of ideas.
Odd that it definitely seems to be copying Filly toys rather than MLP. The only MLP blind bag copies I've seen online are basically recolours (that I want) but these are new poses/etc. Maybe it's a new thing.
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>>1309611
>Maybe it's a new thing.
Something looks off with these assumed knockoffs, namely the placement of the big jewels. They've got them as necklaces, or stuffed in the mane. One seemingly wears it on his shoe, and one has two jewels on each side of his white mane, making his hair look like a conscious squid. The picture says it was from 2010, but I can only guess that this was meant as a knockoff brand, and not quirky recolours like Taobao do with FiM.

>Were they misusing it? They did say it a lot for a while...
I used it for "how much stuff happens on-screen within a given amount of time", while from what I remember from lurking /pony/, they seemed to use it for "how fast the plot moves". Every single episode, except Dragonshy for whatever reason, could be attempted to be shot down by claiming it had bad pacing. They must in my eyes either have used a really arbitrary scale for defining good/bad pacing, or that it was a really subjective buzzword.

>>1308938
>Yay analysis!
>>1309611
>Haha, so modern!
Today's goodie from DQ in Norway: When Spike and his friends are in the ditch early on and Spike tries to show his non-snuggliness, he argues that "Well, I've got scales, instead of your feathers!", apparently thinking that ponies had feathers. Norwegian has never had a good word for skin, but the translators have usually attempted with "pels" (fur) or "hud" (human-y skin), and never "fjær" (feather).
>> No. 1311508
>>1311460
Err... at the risk of coming off as a know-it-all nitpicker, some remarks need to be brought in.

>apparently thinking that ponies had feathers

They actually do have feathers. Big Mac, Fancy Pants, and Shining Armour come to mind. It's a term referring to the fuzz just above the hoof, or hairs on the legs. Source: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Horse-Power-Tutorial-255364809 see Shire entry, if I read it right. Also, Big Mac is totally a Shire.

>>1309611
>Ah, I meant the extra-silvery cake tray lid by "textures" but I guess the texture wouldn't have changed.

For future reference: the shininess and how a surface responds to light is referred to as a material. That includes reflection, glossiness, transparency. Basically, anything that lets you tell what something is made of is usually a material property. Whether an object even receives light and how it casts its shadow also depends on the material assigned to it (though for the former, it's the lamps that are altered).

The word 'texture' refers to a pattern on the surface, and will sooner give you information about the surface geometry, rather than what the stuff is made of. Textures can be drawn in painting/drawing programs of any description, or procedurally generated (let the computer do random stuff, basically) or baked (let the computer make an image based on some data in the 3D space, then lock it into an image) or even animated.

The colours of an object are usually determined by a texture (aka a colour map), since that's easier than assigning different coloured materials to different sections. Making some areas glossier than others - like, say, wet lips - is done with a specularity map (spec map). Adding shadows for crinkles and creases that aren't really there is done by either a bump map (all black and white, straight bumps), or a normal map (coloured, appears to add geometry, bumps in any direction). For really high-value detail, displacement maps can be used, but those have a whole different workflow to them.

And again, I'm not so sure they did change anything about the tray and lid, other than make sure it received more light. Actually, looking at it more closely, in both versions it looks like Will's chest is receiving reflected light from the metal. Maybe they are using raytracing...

Anyway, just my two cents. Gonna be busy the next few weeks, so won't be finishing the Filly model anytime soon (or checking my statements in actual 3D software). I'll post a pic once I get the basic template done, though... around June-ish, probably.
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>>1311460
>I used it for "how much stuff happens on-screen within a given amount of time", while from what I remember from lurking /pony/, they seemed to use it for "how fast the plot moves".
I'm pretty sure it covers both of those, it's just scene pacing vs ep pacing.

>They must in my eyes either have used a really arbitrary scale for defining good/bad pacing, or that it was a really subjective buzzword.
That happens sometimes. Don't forget, a character acting in a way they have before = flanderised, and acting in a different way = OOC (assuming you don't like the behaviour, if you do then it's IC and everyone else has misunderstood the character).

>"Well, I've got scales, instead of your feathers!"
Weird...

>>1311508
>They actually do have feathers.
Fetlocks are normally called fetlocks (same as the joint, which is named after the fluff) or feathering (or just "feather"), not feathers, though that is a term for it. Still, I suspect that Norwegian loses the pun.

(Speaking of, there should be a pun for the idiom "horse feathers" here but I can't see a way to use it without being confusing!)

>Also, Big Mac is totally a Shire.
Or Clydesdale. They're similar breeds but Clydesdale took off more in the US. Shire is bigger but Big Mac seems to be big for his family, so... [Shrug]

>For future reference: the shininess and how a surface responds to light is referred to as a material. That includes reflection, glossiness, transparency. Basically, anything that lets you tell what something is made of is usually a material property.
Okay!
>[other handy terminology stuff]
Cool.

>Gonna be busy the next few weeks, so won't be finishing the Filly model anytime soon (or checking my statements in actual 3D software). I'll post a pic once I get the basic template done, though... around June-ish, probably.
Right-o!
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>>1311570
>Don't forget, a character acting in a way they have before = flanderised, and acting in a different way = OOC (assuming you don't like the behaviour, if you do then it's IC and everyone else has misunderstood the character).
More true words have never been spoken about /pony/.

>Fetlocks are normally called fetlocks (same as the joint, which is named after the fluff) or feathering (or just "feather"), not feathers
>Still, I suspect that Norwegian loses the pun.
>>1311508
>It's a term referring to the fuzz just above the hoof, or hairs on the legs.
I'm unfortunately not a know-it-all on Norwegian horse terminology, to the point I had to look up "fjær" on the English Wiktionary to see if it had alternate meanings. All I found was mechanical springs, so I guess that chance of finding an explanation didn't quite make it.
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>>1312281
>I'm unfortunately not a know-it-all on Norwegian horse terminology
Gasp!

Looking through the transcript, was it this scene?
>Rainbow Dash: [laughs] Yeah, right, Spike. That's one of the scariest aprons I've ever seen!
>Applejack, Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dash: [laughing]
>Spike: What's wrong with wearing an apron? You won't be laughing when you spill blueberries all over your scales. Feathers. That's one tough stain!

To a pegasus pony it kind of makes sense, though the translation does sound like it confuses it a bit more than need be.

(I'm learning about 3D animation, cartoon translation, and Norwegian! This thread's so awesome!)
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New question about the trailer: During the early overhead shots of the castle garden, one can very clearly see a lot of lampposts spread around, but only on what appears to be one road. How do they get the power, by electricity, magic, fireflies, sparkleberries (/Strawberry Shortcake), or something else? And why is it on exactly that road?

>>1312714
>Looking through the transcript, was it this scene?
Yes, I do think it was that scene, in fact. And Spike was talking to RD from what I can remember, but that left me with the new question of "Does pegasi have feathers or skin for wings, as the body and wings have the same colouring?". I haven't seen DQ in English, so I didn't know that the original referred to feathers too.

>(I'm learning about 3D animation, cartoon translation, and Norwegian! This thread's so awesome!)
I too think the thread is pretty good. Maybe is it also proof that /gala/ can be informative and purposeful too.
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>>1313927
>New question about the trailer: During the early overhead shots of the castle garden, one can very clearly see a lot of lampposts spread around, but only on what appears to be one road. How do they get the power, by electricity, magic, fireflies, sparkleberries (/Strawberry Shortcake), or something else?
Ah, I see what you mean! Doesn't look like they'd use fire, either... Hm. Ambiguous magic, maybe? We've seen more than one type of glowing gem and one type of luminescent cave fungi, so maybe some of them are good for that? I assume we'll see, since they'll probably have had to think it over if they use the lights as light sources at any time. Those look like lights in the next scene ("over 66 million sold") too. Hm... There's a purple ornamental globe with a green stand to Will's left when he's at the front of the class, too: Could that be some sort of lamp? I can't imagine they'd leave large, impractical, ornaments lying about a classroom, but it's opaque so that would imply magic for it to be a lamp. (I've not forgotten my lighting-up-markings idea!)

At least the wall lamp in the abandoned study looks like it uses a normal candle or oil.

...I'd love to see what a moonlit snow scene looks like in this show's style. It should really be able to pull off some gorgeous visuals.

>And why is it on exactly that road?
Well, it looks like the main path, maybe for winter term mornings/evenings or bad weather? Or maybe they have night festivals from time to time?

>>Looking through the transcript, was it this scene?
>Yes, I do think it was that scene, in fact. And Spike was talking to RD from what I can remember, but that left me with the new question of "Does pegasi have feathers or skin for wings, as the body and wings have the same colouring?". I haven't seen DQ in English, so I didn't know that the original referred to feathers too.
Well, we've seen the feather come out (e.g. H&HD, when Apple Bloom takes one from Scootaloo), but we've also seen them used like creepy flat fingers and RIAW's X-ray showed what look like mini limb bones in them, so... Yeah. Anatomy is not FIM's strong point, but they're probably meant to be feathers.

Either way, sounds like the scene lost some of its meaning.
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>>1315192
>Ah, I see what you mean! Doesn't look like they'd use fire, either... Hm. Ambiguous magic, maybe? We've seen more than one type of glowing gem and one type of luminescent cave fungi, so maybe some of them are good for that?
The shape of the lamps and the lack of daytime glow indicates a bulb of some sort, either gems or electricity. If the fungi works like glowing toys you can buy in toy stores that relies on having been in light before it can glow in the dark, the first set of lamppost shapes excludes that too. But the shape of the lamps in the "Filly figurines" and "66 million" scenes look really different...

>Hm... There's a purple ornamental globe with a green stand to Will's left when he's at the front of the class, too: Could that be some sort of lamp? I can't imagine they'd leave large, impractical, ornaments lying about a classroom, but it's opaque so that would imply magic for it to be a lamp
A closer look tells me that it stands on a yellow surface of some sort, and that the stand as such is actually pretty small. I could possibly guess at a plant or a spinning toy, until I saw that the ball didn't hang in a thread, i.e. it stood in mid-air and wasn't connected to the stand. Now I'm not sure what it could be.

>Well, it looks like the main path, maybe for winter term mornings/evenings or bad weather? Or maybe they have night festivals from time to time?
>...I'd love to see what a moonlit snow scene looks like in this show's style. It should really be able to pull off some gorgeous visuals.
We do see the Fillys standing (or walking) around in the garden area, so maybe they like to mingle in fresh air even at nightfall?

>but we've also seen them used like creepy flat fingers
I remember that from Hurricane Fluttershy, which I saw yesterday (I found no details of note in the episode's dub, neither good or bad). Those were surely some strange wing push-ups, especially as human hands and fingers would be far out of shape if one emulated Fluttershy's style.
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>>1316656
>If the fungi works like glowing toys you can buy in toy stores that relies on having been in light before it can glow in the dark
Most biological stuff that glows had bacteria or enzymes setting up the chemical reaction, I believe. I wouldn't think the cave would get well lit enough for the toys' method to work.

>the first set of lamppost shapes excludes that too. But the shape of the lamps in the "Filly figurines" and "66 million" scenes look really different...
They do... Maybe there's slightly different layouts for the different academic buildings, e.g. history VS magic studies?

Ah, that reminds me! Do we know what their written language looks like, yet? FIM varies between their own writing and English, but HTTYD's film and series have consistently stuck to using runes, which I think is a great touch.

>>Hm... There's a purple ornamental globe with a green stand to Will's left when he's at the front of the class, too: Could that be some sort of lamp? I can't imagine they'd leave large, impractical, ornaments lying about a classroom, but it's opaque so that would imply magic for it to be a lamp
>A closer look tells me that it stands on a yellow surface of some sort, and that the stand as such is actually pretty small. I could possibly guess at a plant or a spinning toy, until I saw that the ball didn't hang in a thread, i.e. it stood in mid-air and wasn't connected to the stand. Now I'm not sure what it could be.
Looks more connected in the first classroom shot (though it's harder to see)... Hm. Hopefully we'll find out! That or it will just sit in the background and continue to confuse us.

>>Well, it looks like the main path, maybe for winter term mornings/evenings or bad weather? Or maybe they have night festivals from time to time?
>>...I'd love to see what a moonlit snow scene looks like in this show's style. It should really be able to pull off some gorgeous visuals.
>We do see the Fillys standing (or walking) around in the garden area, so maybe they like to mingle in fresh air even at nightfall?
That would be nice.

I wonder if they'll have a bully Filly or group (maybe the glaring orange unicorn)? If they do, I hope it's the deeper sorts who, given the right circumstances, will act like a thinking being rather than just being a source of meanness.

>>but we've also seen them used like creepy flat fingers
>I remember that from Hurricane Fluttershy, which I saw yesterday (I found no details of note in the episode's dub, neither good or bad). Those were surely some strange wing push-ups, especially as human hands and fingers would be far out of shape if one emulated Fluttershy's style.
Yeah, creepy! PYHD has them used to open bags too and it just looks... Wrong.
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>>1316723
>Ah, that reminds me! Do we know what their written language looks like, yet?
I found five cases that could pass for being writing in the trailers. The first trailer had visible signs that doesn't appear to follow any human language. From the third trailer, two has very blurry signs, one clearly has the letter F (Do you think an /oat/ poster could be involved? *silly*), and the one to the right honestly look more like pieces from a puzzle instead of a writing system.

>Looks more connected in the first classroom shot (though it's harder to see)...
Hmm, it does. From that angle, I'd call it a fruit-plant-thing, but yes, it'll probably confuse us for a while.

>Most biological stuff that glows had bacteria or enzymes setting up the chemical reaction, I believe.
And that is true too. How do I forget things like these?

>I wonder if they'll have a bully Filly or group (maybe the glaring orange unicorn)? If they do, I hope it's the deeper sorts who, given the right circumstances, will act like a thinking being rather than just being a source of meanness.
Best scenario for me would be to have a bully be like Ace, or Buford (Phineas & Ferb). Worst scenario would be having him akin to Diamond Tiara or the Kanker sisters (Ed Edd 'n' Eddy?). The orange unicorn is just, standing there, and staring, but maybe he's involved in the forest trap in the cupcake episode?

>Maybe there's slightly different layouts for the different academic buildings, e.g. history VS magic studies?
The stuff we've seen so far focuses on one class, but having different classes and lines could be a passing excuse (even if just barely) for random unidentifiable Fillys popping up, as they could perfectly well easily be from other classes.

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>>Ah, that reminds me! Do we know what their written language looks like, yet?
>I found five cases that could pass for being writing in the trailers. The first trailer had visible signs that doesn't appear to follow any human language. From the third trailer, two has very blurry signs, one clearly has the letter F (Do you think an /oat/ poster could be involved? *silly*), and the one to the right honestly look more like pieces from a puzzle instead of a writing system.
Ah, how did I miss that? Well caught! Looks like it's at FIM's level: They have their own language but English slips in sometime. ...Unless they work the F in as one of their own symbols separate from our F (either as a letter or as a logo). Sometimes spells are more Latin-based, so it wouldn't hurt for Fillies to use multiple languages.

>How do I forget things like these?
No worries, happens to all of us! I tend to forget everything I know during pub quizzes for no apparent reason.

>>Maybe there's slightly different layouts for the different academic buildings, e.g. history VS magic studies?
>The stuff we've seen so far focuses on one class, but having different classes and lines could be a passing excuse (even if just barely) for random unidentifiable Fillys popping up, as they could perfectly well easily be from other classes.
I'd expect multiple classes and for Twilight's class to be their tutor room or magical studies.

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>> No. 1319658
>>1319342
Oh, lab work, why can you not always be as smooth as you were today? *ahem*

Hmm... the written language looks a little like an altered version of Japanese kana, maybe? And the big 'F' can be both a neat reference to Superman's 'S' being a Kryptonian symbol, and a hilarious visual gag when you consider this show will focus on life in a school. Joke works better for Americans (we use numbers to grade students, not letters), but it's still a potential joke.

>Sometimes spells are more Latin-based, so it wouldn't hurt for Fillies to use multiple languages.

Personally, I'm hoping for no spoken spell focus, but I'm biased on that one. Latinesque just feels wrong on so many levels. It's like a priest-on-priest battle, and you're trying to validate your own gods by using a symbol of the enemy's gods. That's just silly, and unoriginal.

With regards to the different buildings, I'm guessing it'd follow the standard for European schools, or at least how it was in my schools, of one room for every class that has special equipment required.

To wit:
-a geography room. Lots of maps everywhere, everyone's atlas in reach because those things tend to be pretty big and clumsy.

-biology room. No frog dissections, most likely, but plant studies are an option. Possibly just moved to a greenhouse.

-science room. I'm thinking lots of glasswork, some nice techy-wechy (or whatever the Doctor calls it) steampunk stuff. Florian as the teacher, as per the bio.

-fancy room. Assuming they are all royals or nobles, or even if only a few are, at least one room needs to accomodate for etiquette lessons. Table for everyone, cutlery for everyone, large central space to practise elegant walks in.

-gym hall. The 'blast it to dust' Elf Filly had a golden whistle. That either means gym teacher or potentially pet trainer. Gym class, in this series, has a lot of comedic potential: "Dodgeball!" -"Shields up!" or "Coach? If I land a ball on someone, does that count as a declaration of war?" - "Ask your diplomacy teacher."

-main room. Probably the one we've seen already, where they get classes like history, maths, and arts. In a small class and without some obscure assignments, the art supplies don't need to be in a separate room.

-magic room. Possibly not needed, depending on what kind of magic they are taught. The more dangerous stuff needs to be moved, surely.

-swimming pool. Probably not going to show except for when the Mermaid Fillies show up, because water surface is a simulation and that's kind of expensive. Underwater scenes should be feasible with some shading and lighting tricks, but that requires breathing under water or the story doesn't work.

-cafeteria. Fillies gotta eat somewhere. Speaking of which...

-home ec room. Are these guys going to learn how to cook? Including the royals? I'd wager Rose is a natural, if the toy bio is followed, and Will can maybe make cupcakes, but the rest? Again, lots of room for shenanigans.
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Now that we've passed 330 posts, does anypony here have problems loading the whole thread at once so far? Funtasia Daily's link to Fillychan loads the whole thread, which'll become a steadily heavier task to do as it gets bigger. If anypony get problems, I could without problems request that it links to only the last 50 posts instead.

>>1319342
The F seems like a logo thing, maybe the school emblem, but it must have a meaning of some sort, right?

>so it wouldn't hurt for Fillies to use multiple languages.
I can imagine a fun little conversation between an English and a German Filly at a multi-lingual academy (With regards that my German still isn't top notch):

Rhea: "Sprechen sie Funtäsiche?"
Will: "No, I only speak Funtasian."
Rhea: "Das ist die gleichen, scheisse dummkopf!"
Will: "You're welcome! Want to join me to the bakery?"

>I tend to forget everything I know during pub quizzes for no apparent reason.
I've constantly been told that I should head down to a pub quiz sometime, but they're not something that everybody and their dog join in on here. A local big-brain quiz tournament called QuizDan selects its teams based on local tryouts with written pub quizzes, so I think they've gotten a reputation for being for pretty smart people.

>>1319658
>the written language looks a little like an altered version of Japanese kana, maybe?
I'm fairly familiar with kana, and can tell that it'd have to be heavily altered for the Funtasia script to come close. For one, dots aren't just placed all over the place in most kana letters. I can to some degree see a 乙 in there, and that's a kanji, but the other Funtasian letters doesn't resemble anything (A few are "I know I should have seen something like that at some point", but most seems completely made up).
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>>1319658
>Hmm... the written language looks a little like an altered version of Japanese kana, maybe?
I wouldn't know, but it'd seem like a strange move. Then again, one of the recurring characters in Adventure Time consistently speaks Korean, and HTTYD's series, like I said, uses runes, so maybe fantasy kids' shows are moving towards including more languages beyond Madeupian.

>visual gag when you consider this show will focus on life in a school.
Oh yeah! Heehee...

>Personally, I'm hoping for no spoken spell focus, but I'm biased on that one. Latinesque just feels wrong on so many levels. It's like a priest-on-priest battle, and you're trying to validate your own gods by using a symbol of the enemy's gods. That's just silly, and unoriginal.
I think it works fine, like those crafting the magical language kept it secret from back when Latin started to spread out into other languages. This said, it was used by Harry Potter, and I'd like Funtasia to do something different.

Would be pretty cool if the different Filly types had different magic types, e.g. spoken for Fairy Fillies, focus for the unicorns, using magical items for Witchies, gestures for Elves... Though I would like to see them fairly compete, too, so I'll be happy either way.

>room ideas
Cool! I'm tired so I'll just comment on a couple.
>fancy room. Assuming they are all royals or nobles, or even if only a few are, at least one room needs to accomodate for etiquette lessons. Table for everyone, cutlery for everyone, large central space to practise elegant walks in.
That could be interesting! Mostly for us rather than younger audiences, though it might not be bad...
>"Coach? If I land a ball on someone, does that count as a declaration of war?" - "Ask your diplomacy teacher."
That's awesome!

>swimming pool. Probably not going to show except for when the Mermaid Fillies show up, because water surface is a simulation and that's kind of expensive. Underwater scenes should be feasible with some shading and lighting tricks, but that requires breathing under water or the story doesn't work.
Do you think they'll bring the Mermaids in for S1? I'd have thought that our 5 mane would represent all the Filly types for a while (Al-for-1+1-for-Al aside). If the Mermaids were there, I'd guess it would be via a rarely-seen lake or river to avoid the "they're trapped!" implication. A lake used for swimming?

>home ec room. Are these guys going to learn how to cook? Including the royals? I'd wager Rose is a natural, if the toy bio is followed, and Will can maybe make cupcakes, but the rest? Again, lots of room for shenanigans.
Cooking antics CAN be fun... Now I want cake...

>>1319936
>Now that we've passed 330 posts, does anypony here have problems loading the whole thread at once so far? Funtasia Daily's link to Fillychan loads the whole thread, which'll become a steadily heavier task to do as it gets bigger. If anypony get problems, I could without problems request that it links to only the last 50 posts instead.
'Tis a bit hefty, but then people unfamiliar with the site might not realise there are more than 50 posts? They'd probably only read the last few anyway, though, and work it out if they were interested, so the link-to-50 idea seems good.

>Rhea: "Sprechen sie Funtäsiche?"
>Will: "No, I only speak Funtasian."
>Rhea: "Das ist die gleichen, scheisse dummkopf!"
>Will: "You're welcome! Want to join me to the bakery?"
[Uses Google translate] Haha, cute!

>>I tend to forget everything I know during pub quizzes for no apparent reason.
>I've constantly been told that I should head down to a pub quiz sometime, but they're not something that everybody and their dog join in on here. A local big-brain quiz tournament called QuizDan selects its teams based on local tryouts with written pub quizzes, so I think they've gotten a reputation for being for pretty smart people.
Sounds like a pain... Beyond forgetting everything, I also suck at anything including celebrities, sports, or music, which are all very common quiz topics.
>> No. 1321598
>Do you think they'll bring the Mermaids in for S1? I'd have thought that our 5 mane would represent all the Filly types for a while (Al-for-1+1-for-Al aside). If the Mermaids were there, I'd guess it would be via a rarely-seen lake or river to avoid the "they're trapped!" implication. A lake used for swimming?

I think one of the tweets from the creators said something about Mermaid and Butterfly Fillies, so it's possible they get single-episode focus.

Which raises a big question mark regarding the show in general: how is this going to work?

Think about it: the toylines are all designed with the basic concept that each race has its own island or its own world. They do not mix, at all, with the exception of maybe Magic travelling around and the Wedding Fillies being a mix of races. The show, however, seems to start from the concept that it's all one single world. Do the toys even use the word 'Funtasia' at all?

The big issue this raises is how they'd add new races to the roster. The fanfic I'm planning (WillowPie fic, just a basic outline/vomit draft for now) operates from the assumption they're all from different worlds separated by a barrier no one realised was there. Basically there'd be walls raised up in a direction that cannot be pointed to, and the only way to get across is through some form of magic. That logic allows for new worlds to be discovered as they go along. You can only really use the 'long-lost kingdom frozen in time' schtick once, after all.

But in the show, it's all considered a single world, and it's named Funtasia. Do the Fillies go into this school knowing of all other races, you think, or are we going to get some cultural differences? Either way would work, and either way has its own comedy, but it needs to be addressed, at least.

If they all know each other:

"Ooh, I've never met a Witchy Filly before. Can you turn Fillies into toads? With pink eyes?" - "I've tried, but for some reason I always wind up with white rabbits."

If not:

"Hey, you've got wings, right? You wanna go fly with me sometime?" - "You can grow wings?" "No, I've got a broom." *silence* - "How exactly does a broom make you fly?"

Same with the name; there's room for some backstory there, if the writers are clever about it. Maybe all the rulers convened and argued for so long that 'Funtasia' was just the thing they agreed on to get it over and done with.
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>>1320836
>Beyond forgetting everything, I also suck at anything including celebrities, sports, or music, which are all very common quiz topics.
I'm pretty good at sports matters, though, and not just football like everypony else only know about. I'm no champion on celebrities, however.

>Do you think they'll bring the Mermaids in for S1?
I remember a tweet from October where BRB was asked about whether Filly Mermaids would appear. They answered that you'd have to wait and see. Considering how people have considered things confirmed for less than this (The amount of supposed Half-Life 3 confirmations must have reached four digits by now), this'd probably count as a hint.
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(Forgot to turn off sage after a previous post, so I'll turn it off now for great justice.)
>> No. 1321773
>>1319342
I've seen that (F) symbol somewhere else, though I can't recall where right now. I think it's a Filly logo. It definitely uses the same font as the Filly logo on myfilly.com.

>>1319936
I've updated the link.

>>1321598
Based on the articles and trailers we have available so far, the kingdom of Funtasia in the show seems very similar to the kingdom of Crystalia from the toys. My current hypothesis is that they've simply renamed it for the show.
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>>1321598
>>1321714
>>1321773
(Joint topics over multi-topic posts! I'll just reply to you all.)

>mermaids
Fancy that! I hope they keep it mostly underwater (it'll suit the graphics better, I think).

>Funtasia: How does that work?
I was thinking that it's the continent and that the toys focus on parts of it. I'm also fairly sure the areas the toys mentioned will be much bigger than implied, so as to support the population. After all, Crystalia could look excellent in show-style, so I hope it's still about!

Could be that the academy is a new thing (as an academy, even if the building is an old one) being used as a symbol of the Filly types coming together.

>Do the Fillies go into this school knowing of all other races, you think, or are we going to get some cultural differences?
I hope for a bit of both! Maybe that most Fillies have been interacting for a while but unicorns have mostly kept to themselves, especially since that will let the audience meet the different types of Fillies along with Rose without too much "who/what are you?" being aimed everywhere by everyone.
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>>1322682
>Fancy that! I hope they keep it mostly underwater (it'll suit the graphics better, I think).
Mermaids in cartoons (Jake and the Neverland Pirates, Sofia the First, Zig and Sharko) are just as often seen peeking up from the water, generally to converse to and aid the land-based main characters, as they are swimming underwater. So by my guess, we'll see them at surface level whenever they aren't the focus of an episode's plot.

>I'm also fairly sure the areas the toys mentioned will be much bigger than implied, so as to support the population.
Yes. The Myfilly world seemed to only cover a few... neighbourhoods at best, and the grass areas surrounding them on the map weren't large. They'd have to expand those areas greatly to make it feel like a proper land(s), and to avoid Funtasia from ending up like a Sims society, in which a town has at most 70 people and unvisitable surroundings.

>>1321773
>I've seen that (F) symbol somewhere else, though I can't recall where right now. I think it's a Filly logo. It definitely uses the same font as the Filly logo on myfilly.com.
It's clearly related to the Filly Funtasia logo, but why? MLP has never used their many logos in-show to my knowledge, and I've watched the majority of all pre-FiM sketches and movies.

(Saging on purpose to avoid attracting the birthday /Pony/AfterDark's attention. The last thing I need now is bad flashbacks to Series 2 Pinkie. But I assume that you guys use links, Watched Threads or careful browsing down the pages anyway, and I won't stop you from bumping.)
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>>1324459
(Guess I can sage for a while even though I don't get your reasoning? I liked S2 Pinkie... But yeah, I can find this thread even if it's further down the page!)

>>Fancy that! I hope they keep it mostly underwater (it'll suit the graphics better, I think).
>Mermaids in cartoons (Jake and the Neverland Pirates, Sofia the First, Zig and Sharko) are just as often seen peeking up from the water, generally to converse to and aid the land-based main characters, as they are swimming underwater. So by my guess, we'll see them at surface level whenever they aren't the focus of an episode's plot.
I have noticed, but for the FIM graphics I think it would manage underwater really well, whereas a view with splashing water might be a bit trickier, as seen in the Rose-falling-into-fountain clip. It wasn't BAD, but going underwater could let them show off that lighting and a variety of camera angles, which would be harder for 2D since as-seen-from-below would have to be made separately.

Maybe a field trip to meet the Merfillies and better understand their way of life in their environment since it's harder for them to visit the academy? Or maybe a chance encounter whilst learning underwater spells?

>>I'm also fairly sure the areas the toys mentioned will be much bigger than implied, so as to support the population.
>Yes. The Myfilly world seemed to only cover a few... neighbourhoods at best, and the grass areas surrounding them on the map weren't large. They'd have to expand those areas greatly to make it feel like a proper land(s), and to avoid Funtasia from ending up like a Sims society, in which a town has at most 70 people and unvisitable surroundings.
And giant floating islands joined by giant rainbow bridges could look gorgeous, right?

>>I've seen that (F) symbol somewhere else, though I can't recall where right now. I think it's a Filly logo. It definitely uses the same font as the Filly logo on myfilly.com.
>It's clearly related to the Filly Funtasia logo, but why? MLP has never used their many logos in-show to my knowledge, and I've watched the majority of all pre-FiM sketches and movies.
Maybe they want it to fit in easier on the merch? A playset with the logo on it that reflects show canon is nicer than, say, a playset that only bears rough resemblance to the show's and has no obvious logo to credit the brand.

The old Littlest Pet Shop toys normally had a paw print logo in the animals' designs (usually on a collar or bridle) and it made them very easy to ID.
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>>1324588
>but going underwater could let them show off that lighting and a variety of camera angles
That'd be some glorious scenes with the shiny water and, well, all kinds of angles. The swimming scenes would look like something straight out of Top Gear if they do it really well.

>And giant floating islands joined by giant rainbow bridges could look gorgeous, right?
I guess they would? If they're really big, you probably couldn't show all islands at once, limiting it to one island's grass landscape with a solid rainbow or two in view at a time.

>Maybe a field trip to meet the Merfillies and better understand their way of life in their environment since it's harder for them to visit the academy?
A school trip to the Merfillies' home place? Whether they just meet each other or the land Fillys head underwater, that'd be something to watch.

(It's been more than two years ago since I learned my lesson that I should never discuss things that make me furious. But in short, even the Gif's of BC was creepy enough that I slept with floodlight in my bedroom for weeks and relied on self-exhaustion strategies to not think of it; and the song in AFiD had poor choice of instruments, gissy-gissy lyrics that made One Direction sound like Rage Against the Machine in comparison, and the heavy implications that Pinkie's really strange and counter-intuitive behaviour (SotC, anyone?) was done by her on purpose to make ponies smile. I don't want to remember all of this...

Since Eponymous visited lots of threads last night to advertise for a Pinkie-celebrating thread that mentioned AFiD but not her life-saving TMPP, I don't want him here as well.
)
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>>1324654
>>but going underwater could let them show off that lighting and a variety of camera angles
>That'd be some glorious scenes with the shiny water and, well, all kinds of angles. The swimming scenes would look like something straight out of Top Gear if they do it really well.
So much potential! Maybe it's asking too much of a toy-based series' S1, but I remain hopeful.

>>And giant floating islands joined by giant rainbow bridges could look gorgeous, right?
>I guess they would? If they're really big, you probably couldn't show all islands at once, limiting it to one island's grass landscape with a solid rainbow or two in view at a time.
They could zoom into it with the camera like at the start of the first trailer? Close-up shots would mostly have sky or a giant rainbow bridge as a background, but I kind of think that'd look good.

>>Maybe a field trip to meet the Merfillies and better understand their way of life in their environment since it's harder for them to visit the academy?
>A school trip to the Merfillies' home place? Whether they just meet each other or the land Fillys head underwater, that'd be something to watch.
I think that'd be nice. Our 5 manes discovering the Merfillies is another option, but I think such things would be better for new Filly releases than established ones.

(The Cake twins' design is unpleasant to me even ignoring that I find small children, especially babies, scary, but the horror references in the ep endeared it to me enough for a more neutral/positive score since I'm a horror fan and it seemed to recognise that kids are creepy... I can get how that wouldn't help some people, though. AFID I liked but not the song. I didn't see anything that challenged my headcanon of SOTC being "Pinkie assumed everyone else knew what she was talking about" though... But I digress, if it winds you up then we can leave Pinkie out of this. The thread's for Fillies, after all!)
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>>1324654
If I might shamelessly plug Blender again, here's a tutorial on how underwater scenes are done. I'd expect the particles to be removed, since it's clean water, but it's a good starting point. http://www.blenderguru.com/videos/creating-an-underwater-scene/ It can certainly be done, and it's not that much of a technical hurdle, but it can crank up render times, possibly.

Also worth noting: one of the show writers worked on Captain Planet. I have to wonder, would Mermaid Fillies suffering from pollution make for a good plot? If it's not as ham-fisted as the original, it could certainly work. Also, a romance with one of the Mermaids. Doesn't need to be a girl Mermaid either.

It'd be fun if the gym teacher drags them to a lake for swimming lessons. That's as good an excuse as any.

Oh, and in case anyone runs into a hater who points out that Mermaid or Witchy Fillies implies there are humans in Funtasia, here's the counter: the majority of Pokémon in the Pokédex are named after animals that don't exist in their world (ie Vulpix is a fox Pokémon. So how do they know what a fox is?). No one seems to care about that.

[Was going to offer my thoughts on negativity, but it'd be too much of a sidetrack, and only dwell on bad things. Better to stay positive :3]
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>>1324714
>one of the show writers worked on Captain Planet. I have to wonder, would Mermaid Fillies suffering from pollution make for a good plot? If it's not as ham-fisted as the original, it could certainly work. Also, a romance with one of the Mermaids. Doesn't need to be a girl Mermaid either.
I don't think any modern cartoons can do a straight pollution plot for an episode after all such plots in the 90's, and especially not in Filly Funtasia that has no known sources of pollution except perhaps two heating ovens. A full-out romance doesn't feel Funtasian to me either, though shows with younger age groups has gotten away with hinting at relationships (even with mermaids).

>Oh, and in case anyone runs into a hater who points out that Mermaid or Witchy Fillies implies there are humans in Funtasia, here's the counter: (...)
I can't really say that I've encountered that kind of haters at any point in the last seven months. The most common qualm the /oat/ haters has had with it was that every character were princes or princesses by virtue of the crowns and some early promo info.

>([)but it'd be too much of a sidetrack, and only dwell on bad things. Better to stay positive :3]
I agree. I perform really bad on Sundays, but I perform worse than bad on Sunday-like bank holidays. I've spent in excess of seven hours today browsing through 3 Ponychan boards hoping for anything to happen. The remaining four hours were spent on napping and some TF Wiki.

>>1324697
>They could zoom into it with the camera like at the start of the first trailer?
Yes, that's a feasible option. They wouldn't be able to include much objects in the wide shot though, as they'd be much too small compared to the presumably huge islands that the wide shot would cover.

>even ignoring that I find small children, especially babies, scary
>The thread's for Fillies, after all!
I find small children scary too, though in my case I find them enough scary that the horror elements added up to the scariness and became double or triple horror. But I'll stop with my life experiences here, which is probably for the better for us all.

>So much potential! Maybe it's asking too much of a toy-based series' S1, but I remain hopeful.
The third trailer surprised us all (I think) mightily with the quality of animation, so I say there's a chance they may surprise us again.
>> No. 1325003
>>1324939
>A full-out romance doesn't feel Funtasian to me either, though shows with younger age groups has gotten away with hinting at relationships (even with mermaids).
That's kind of what I meant. Not a full-out romance, but at least some acknowledgment of a possible relationship. Can be a background thing, and isn't something major I'm expecting, it'd just be nice to see their take on it.

>I can't really say that I've encountered that kind of haters at any point in the last seven months. The most common qualm the /oat/ haters has had with it was that every character were princes or princesses by virtue of the crowns and some early promo info.
Well, just loadin' up the arsenal for when it's needed, then.
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>>1325003
>Well, just loadin' up the arsenal for when it's needed, then.
Okay, I'll keep it in mind. Pokémon, animals, Vulpix, foxes. Got it.

>That's kind of what I meant. Not a full-out romance, but at least some acknowledgment of a possible relationship. Can be a background thing, and isn't something major I'm expecting, it'd just be nice to see their take on it.
Seems fair. I too am curious as to how far the relationships in the show will be. The possibilites are many, one-way crushes, puppy love crushes, young teen love, a small infatuation, crush at a distance, nice stares and nothing else, crushing over whoever happens to be the handsome, being good friends with small hints, I'm probably missing out on some. I'd pick either infatuation or occasionally-brought-up puppy love as my favourites, but who am I to guess at this?
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Apparently the guy running the Filly wikia (http://filly.wikia.com) has tired of it. He's handed it over to me. I guess I'll be taking care of it until someone else comes along.
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>>1324714
>It can certainly be done, and it's not that much of a technical hurdle, but it can crank up render times, possibly.
That's what I was worried about... Hopefully they'll consider it worth the time!

>Also worth noting: one of the show writers worked on Captain Planet. I have to wonder, would Mermaid Fillies suffering from pollution make for a good plot?
It's possible, especially if there are some non-Filly races around, but pollution plots aren't very common at the moment, I think. Not unless they're subtle and don't make up the entire plot.

>Also, a romance with one of the Mermaids. Doesn't need to be a girl Mermaid either.
Heeheehee... Merfolk are never overused in shipping!

>It'd be fun if the gym teacher drags them to a lake for swimming lessons. That's as good an excuse as any.
Ah, flashback to swimming lessons in a cold outdoor pool...

>Mermaid or Witchy Fillies implies there are humans in Funtasia
They do?

>the majority of Pokémon in the Pokédex are named after animals that don't exist in their world (ie Vulpix is a fox Pokémon. So how do they know what a fox is?). No one seems to care about that.
Well, foxes are part of the canidae family, so someone from a world where Canidae are a species but foxes are fantasy might ask us the same thing. More telling is that a mongoose was actually shown in the first ghost episode, and it definitely wasn't the mongoose Pokémon that's been created since, plus lots of real-life fish were shown/eaten in the first season, as I recall.

(Personally I preferred it when Pokémon were implied to magical creatures or something rather than the actual animals of the world, the latter making the "can only learn 4 things" matter weirder, plus there's the "glorified dog fight" angle... Ah well.)

>>1324939
>I've spent in excess of seven hours today browsing through 3 Ponychan boards hoping for anything to happen.
Ah, I get stuck on stuff like that sometimes. I have to try to stick to a schedule of "do (or at least properly try to do) something useful" and "relax", which works okay when I manage to keep to it, but it quickly slips back if I'm not careful.

>>They could zoom into it with the camera like at the start of the first trailer?
>Yes, that's a feasible option. They wouldn't be able to include much objects in the wide shot though, as they'd be much too small compared to the presumably huge islands that the wide shot would cover.
True...

>I find small children scary too
I hope you have less of people repeatedly insisting that you'll want to be pregnant one day, 'cause nothing sets off my baby fear quite as much as that.


>>So much potential! Maybe it's asking too much of a toy-based series' S1, but I remain hopeful.
>The third trailer surprised us all (I think) mightily with the quality of animation, so I say there's a chance they may surprise us again.
I think for me it was the change to a cooler and more modern feel in its advertising. Plus the action and magic and... Ah, it's what was hoped for!

>Well, just loadin' up the arsenal for when it's needed, then.
Good thinking, though the new trailer says much of what I'd want it to.

>>1325133
>>That's kind of what I meant. Not a full-out romance, but at least some acknowledgment of a possible relationship. Can be a background thing, and isn't something major I'm expecting, it'd just be nice to see their take on it.
>Seems fair. I too am curious as to how far the relationships in the show will be. The possibilites are many, one-way crushes, puppy love crushes, young teen love, a small infatuation, crush at a distance, nice stares and nothing else, crushing over whoever happens to be the handsome, being good friends with small hints, I'm probably missing out on some. I'd pick either infatuation or occasionally-brought-up puppy love as my favourites, but who am I to guess at this?
Background stuff would be nice, or secondary characters, though I would prefer if they kept the 5 mane free from it or had Will or Cedric be the token romantic. I think female characters are more at risk to being reduced to "that one with the crush" if it features the matter in more than the very occasional ep on the matter.

Plus a lack of canon shipping leaves more room for fanon, no?
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>>1325178
Oh! Congrats! I'm sure you'll do great. Anything you want help with?
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I've noticed that I'm pretty tired in the daytime this week, so that's why I tend to wait past lunch with the first post of the day.

>>1325178
I've got bad memories with Wikia, both as a reader and a would-be contributor, so I'm unfortunately not the "someone else" that will save the day. But good luck if you're searching for a proper replacement.

>>1325207
>Ah, I get stuck on stuff like that sometimes. I have to try to stick to a schedule of "do (or at least properly try to do) something useful" and "relax", which works okay when I manage to keep to it, but it quickly slips back if I'm not careful.
It's limited how much useful things I can do. I'm out of the job market, and it's a bit cold outside this week (around 3°) to reliably walk around. I've tried with a shopping centre visit this morning and some Wii Fit U, both of which unusually tired me more than they benefitted.

>though I would prefer if they kept the 5 mane free from it or had Will or Cedric be the token romantic
Having Will or Cedric as romantic would be pretty interesting, at least if they can do it like "teen love" at par with girls' teen love, and not at all a "sleazy ego with bad pick-up lines" variant like shows usually do whenever a man is trying to pick up women (Johnny Bravo, Kuzco from Emperor's New Groove/School).

>Plus a lack of canon shipping leaves more room for fanon, no?
Shows like FiM and Transformers has shipped quite a lot of characters throughout the ages. Shows and movies with clear relationship outlines had much fewer possibilities (Twilight had Edward x Bella and Jacob x Bella as the biggest choices by far. You never saw, say, whoever-the-principal-was x Bella on the wider parts of the internet). I don't think Filly Funtasia will become a shippers' haven unless the show itself gets big big-time, because those with interest in the show now are not notorious shippers at all, but there's surely lots of shipping possibilities.

I've had sufficiently much of a heavy anti-baby stance for more than four years now that my (very tolerative) parents have realised that I'll most likely never have offspring nor get married; and for the few other people I socialise with, it's very specifically a non-topic. So it's not much of a problem for me nowadays, thankfully.
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>>1327404
>>Ah, I get stuck on stuff like that sometimes. I have to try to stick to a schedule of "do (or at least properly try to do) something useful" and "relax", which works okay when I manage to keep to it, but it quickly slips back if I'm not careful.
>It's limited how much useful things I can do. I'm out of the job market, and it's a bit cold outside this week (around 3°) to reliably walk around. I've tried with a shopping centre visit this morning and some Wii Fit U, both of which unusually tired me more than they benefitted.
That sucks. I always have a big mental list of chores I mean to do, so I can refer to that...

>>though I would prefer if they kept the 5 mane free from it or had Will or Cedric be the token romantic
>Having Will or Cedric as romantic would be pretty interesting, at least if they can do it like "teen love" at par with girls' teen love, and not at all a "sleazy ego with bad pick-up lines" variant like shows usually do whenever a man is trying to pick up women (Johnny Bravo, Kuzco from Emperor's New Groove/School).
Oh, yeah, I meant the swoony daydreamer type rather than sleazy. I like Johnny Bravo but that type of thing is overdone for males.

>I don't think Filly Funtasia will become a shippers' haven unless the show itself gets big big-time, because those with interest in the show now are not notorious shippers at all, but there's surely lots of shipping possibilities.
I may not be notorious but I enjoy shipping!

Only four years? I've spent pretty much my entire life being scared of babies and not liking small children (I very clearly remember thinking that my peers had become more tolerable around 10 years old), and my mother STILL gets broody and looks at me when one of my cousins reproduces! Last time the matter came up she insisted I'm not scared of kids, and... Yeah... I don't get it and people still doubting me is a pain. My brother likes kids though, so hopefully he'll settle down and make her happy sometime.
>> No. 1327599
>>1327455
>because those with interest in the show now are not notorious shippers at all, but there's surely lots of shipping possibilities.
>because those with interest in the show now are not notorious shippers at all
>those with interest in the show now are not notorious

Clearly I'm doing something wrong, lol. Although I suppose it would be too cheap to write [censored title] for Filly. You can only really use that gimmick once. And it got a mixed reception the first time around, anyhoof. Shipping's hard, dude, especially in a clopfic.

>Having Will or Cedric as romantic would be pretty interesting, at least if they can do it like "teen love" at par with girls' teen love, and not at all a "sleazy ego with bad pick-up lines" variant like shows usually do whenever a man is trying to pick up women (Johnny Bravo, Kuzco from Emperor's New Groove/School).
>Oh, yeah, I meant the swoony daydreamer type rather than sleazy. I like Johnny Bravo but that type of thing is overdone for males.
The main problem, I think, is that romance gets pushed at the expense of character, or to define an otherwise non-existing character, rather than using it to expand an established and likeable character. Say they get a crush. Why are they crushing? Do they have a good reason to? What do we see? Are they smitten, suddenly experiencing new feelings and unsure how to handle it? Or is it just an excuse for shenanigans and generally cheap laughs? Comedy is one thing, but there is such a thing as character in comedies. Character needs to be respected to some degree.
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>>1327599
>Although I suppose it would be too cheap to write [censored title] for Filly. You can only really use that gimmick once. And it got a mixed reception the first time around, anyhoof. Shipping's hard, dude, especially in a clopfic.
It must have been a really cloppy clopfic if even the title has to be censored away. I've seen Cupcakes and the synopsis for Sweet Apple Massacre being discussed without problems, but I wouldn't call those shipping. I've even seen a few clopfics like Twilight's Molestation Celebration and Pinkie Pie Sucks 1,000 Dicks being mentioned, though most of their contents were obviously left out of the discussions and this was during a time when /oat/ was slightly looser on sexual content, so I'd say the border for whether a title is unspeakable goes at the latter story.

>the romance/character part
I for one think that Funtasia will go light on romances and that whatever romance stuff that happen could be played for comedy (Most instances in Fish Hooks, or the Rarity x Blueblood in S1's Gala arc) or as the plot setup early in an episode (Tinker Bell and the Lost Treasure). But I have faith that the writing crew would establish the proper characters first and then add the romance elements on top of the lots of established stuff.

>>1327455
>Oh, yeah, I meant the swoony daydreamer type rather than sleazy. I like Johnny Bravo but that type of thing is overdone for males.
I can't imagine Will as swoony (if I assume it's swoony as in fainting of excitement á la costume dramas based in the 1700's) unless they're ripping both the toy canon and the trailers a new one. Cedric, maybe, but he strikes me as a normal guy who can control most of his emotions, the Jerry Seinfeld of the group so to say. I recently began to watch Johnny Bravo again, and at least liked it more than I did when I was younger.

>I may not be notorious but I enjoy shipping!
I personally have a very hard time finding shippings I could back seriously and not just through art drawings. The only big ones I can remember envisioning was Rarity x Hoity Toity, and the TF Prime matter Agent Fowler x June Darby (a ship that had better shipteasing than most of Disney's Original Shows). I find no good ships in Filly Funtasia so far, as even Will x Rose is difficult to imagine.

I think a reason why those around me has accepted it, is that I make a huge, huge matter out of my phobia. The list of things I stay away from to get an arm's length away from small children includes relationships, nightclubs, alcohol, sex, general news websites, channels aimed at grown-up women, almost any media that has parenting of childs as an element, Saturday shopping, drugs, shopping when the kindergardens are closing for the day, and I'm shunning any people who want to have children, among other things. I've spoken extremely negative of small children to the point where I could be seen as violently dangerous, and panic completely when a child screams nearby. So I think they've got my point.

I have this one theory where there are people who only want childs so they can get grandchilds for them, though my own parents oppose this theory. My best but probably not very good advices? Find a way to get some distance from your mom, and if you've got solid guts, why not get sterilised to really show your point? I didn't have the guts to go through with it, especially after I heard that narcosis sterilisation had you rolling in to a fully prepared operation room before you got the narcosis.

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>> No. 1327803
>>1327759
Yeah, it's not likely going to be included, but if they do, that's my best guess. It's how I'd do it.

And the fic is called Rainbow Dash Discovers Erotic Mind Control. It's exactly what it says on the tin, but it's got more character development than average and the rambling exposition-feeding I'm known/'notorious' for. I'm not sure what the crowd is for that story, but some people liked it, so there. Anyways, it's a concept that can be transplanted to Filly if school counseling is involved or some sort of hypnosis classes, but if it's been done once, it needs something new the second time, and right now I don't have that in me.

>But I have faith that the writing crew would establish the proper characters first and then add the romance elements on top of the lots of established stuff.
Amen to that. It'll stand or fall on its characters.
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>>1327803
>And the fic is called Rainbow Dash Discovers Erotic Mind Control. It's exactly what it says on the tin, but it's got more character development than average and the rambling exposition-feeding I'm known/'notorious' for. I'm not sure what the crowd is for that story, but some people liked it, so there.
I couldn't stop laughing for a minute when I saw the title for some unbeknown reason, probably because it sounded funny, though I probably wouldn't want to read the story. And you wrote it? This place keeps surprising me in all kinds of positive ways. I recall that a fetish for hypnosis is among the more common fetishes out there, so I would figure there's an audience for such things.
>> No. 1327914
>>1327822
It is actually quite funny in places. Rainbow and Twilight go to this erotica con and... well, shenanigans ensue, as well as possibly the funniest line of inner monologue I'll ever write. (How do you spoiler things on here, btw?) It's clop-y, but clop trying to be show accurate and cute in places, so really more Slice of Life TwiDash with clop thrown in. Obviously not always successful.

All fetishes lead to a mind control fetish, and a mind control fetish leads to all other fetishes. One of the rules of mind control.

Anywho, before we get even more sidetracked, a minor remark. Filly fan art: 2D or 3D style? And if the fandom ever takes off in a big way (one can dream, no?), would it do for Blender (or 3D programs in general) what FiM did for Inkscape, you think? Ie draw a bigger crowd, make it more known, but also create a separate subcommunity in the userbase?
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>Yay m/m shipping! I'm confusing myself on face shapes though, need to do more practice sketches as well as working out how I want to simplify the hair and crowns...
...Doing 2D pics based on 3D characters is weird! I'll figure it out, give me time...

>>1327599
>>>Having Will or Cedric as romantic would be pretty interesting, at least if they can do it like "teen love" at par with girls' teen love, and not at all a "sleazy ego with bad pick-up lines" variant like shows usually do whenever a man is trying to pick up women (Johnny Bravo, Kuzco from Emperor's New Groove/School).
>>Oh, yeah, I meant the swoony daydreamer type rather than sleazy. I like Johnny Bravo but that type of thing is overdone for males.
>The main problem, I think, is that romance gets pushed at the expense of character, or to define an otherwise non-existing character, rather than using it to expand an established and likeable character. Say they get a crush. Why are they crushing? Do they have a good reason to? What do we see? Are they smitten, suddenly experiencing new feelings and unsure how to handle it? Or is it just an excuse for shenanigans and generally cheap laughs? Comedy is one thing, but there is such a thing as character in comedies. Character needs to be respected to some degree.
Yeah, though I think it's more often the case for female characters, who are sometimes there JUST to be shipped, a much thing less common for male characters, and that this too often leaks into main characters. Plus I think simple things like switching the normal gender helps people to think about clichés a lot more.

>>1327759
>I for one think that Funtasia will go light on romances and that whatever romance stuff that happen could be played for comedy (Most instances in Fish Hooks, or the Rarity x Blueblood in S1's Gala arc) or as the plot setup early in an episode (Tinker Bell and the Lost Treasure). But I have faith that the writing crew would establish the proper characters first and then add the romance elements on top of the lots of established stuff.
I hope so!

>>Oh, yeah, I meant the swoony daydreamer type rather than sleazy. I like Johnny Bravo but that type of thing is overdone for males.
>I can't imagine Will as swoony (if I assume it's swoony as in fainting of excitement á la costume dramas based in the 1700's) unless they're ripping both the toy canon and the trailers a new one.
I only meant around girls he liked. Like falling over when practising acrobatics if she walks by and daydreaming about her when he's meant to be working. I'm sure there are female character examples of them being mostly outgoing and fun until their crush appears, at which point they're kind of a muddle.

>Cedric, maybe, but he strikes me as a normal guy who can control most of his emotions, the Jerry Seinfeld of the group so to say.
I'm guessing he'll be the more serious and restrained one? Not Spock levels, but Rose is brainy and energetic, so "the mature one" isn't yet there.

>I personally have a very hard time finding shippings I could back seriously and not just through art drawings. [...] I find no good ships in Filly Funtasia so far, as even Will x Rose is difficult to imagine.
Fair enough! It's not for everyone.

Wow, that list would definitely get the point across! I don't want to push people away over it, just... Be accepted. I mostly just freeze up around actual kids, I can even offer tissues if a parents' trying to calm a crying child, and I find what they say interesting enough to not always make excuses and run if they're in the room. Babies I'm worse around and the idea of having one (any part from conception onwards) freaks me out massively. I'd get sterilised but I've probably got good genes and wouldn't mind selling my eggs or ovaries if I could get a good price, and laws regarding organ selling may change.

>>1327803
>Rainbow Dash Discovers Erotic Mind Control.
Ah, hypnosis fetish? Bit of an unusual one but fair enough!

>>1327914
>Anywho, before we get even more sidetracked, a minor remark. Filly fan art: 2D or 3D style? And if the fandom ever takes off in a big way (one can dream, no?), would it do for Blender (or 3D programs in general) what FiM did for Inkscape, you think? Ie draw a bigger crowd, make it more known, but also create a separate subcommunity in the userbase?
Most likely!

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>>1327914
Wow, sounds like a good story by how it's described. As for spoilers, the blue ?-circle next to the Message box or the "BBcodes" section of the site's FAQ will give you all the help you'll ever need, but it involves square brackets and the ? and / signs. It's difficult for me to explain in action, as I think that'd mess up a later part of this post.

I'm guessing that 2D style would be dominant to lower the treshold for hand-drawing artists. Though I pretty rarely see respected FiM art that's both hand-drawn and hand-coloured...

>>1327955
>Like falling over when practising acrobatics if she walks by and daydreaming about her when he's meant to be working. I'm sure there are female character examples of them being mostly outgoing and fun until their crush appears, at which point they're kind of a muddle.
Ah, that kind of swoony. I can't really imagine that for Will either, and especially not confined to one girl. I've seen tonnes of examples of "men who fail to show any brain activity when their girlfriend is nearby", and it's not something I'd like a repeat of. Maybe if he had a really soft spot for Rose or Bella (or Lynn), as that's be the only chance for it to sound Willow-y to me. When I think of "dreamy romantic", I imagined it more ideally as that he or Cedric loved romantic stories and daydreamed about romantic stuff and somepony to be with.

>I'm guessing he'll be the more serious and restrained one? Not Spock levels, but Rose is brainy and energetic, so "the mature one" isn't yet there.
He just seems so... ordinary. The toy bios describe him as needing breaks away from royal training, but at the same time I don't think we've seen him being excited or adventurous (unless the speculated-to-be-a-race promo art actually is a race) in any way so far. I'm pretty sure he won't fill the "Voice of reason" role, as that'd be taken by Rose, and the rest of the Filly Five would have to be seriously off-track for Cedric to be the "Only sane man".

The concept of me getting a child freaks me out heavily too, but I have mostly the same objections to both babies and toddlers (generally below age 5), as they feel really unpredictable and noisy to me. I strongly doubt that I could have sold my sperm unless I got a huge fortune for it, as 1) I don't think I could have lived well knowing that my stuff has led to someone getting a child from it, plus that donation-based childs that has reached 18 will get info about his donators and can contact him(/me), and 2) I can imagine that I have really bad genes. My body's immunity is really good, but everything else, including diagnosises, one sort-of-allergy, a pretty unusual sexuality situation, and being somewhat short (1.66m), a tiny bit chubby (92 kilos) and poorly fit for normal work, must be going against me.

This has to be the first time I've talked to a person who's had almost(?) as much problems with babies as I have, especially among people I'd consider reliable, so I'm pretty excited and may or may not go a bit far when I'm writing in my excitement
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>>1329710
>When I think of "dreamy romantic", I imagined it more ideally as that he or Cedric loved romantic stories and daydreamed about romantic stuff and somepony to be with.
Fair enough! Ideally none of them will be regularly reduced to "the one with a crush", I just meant that I'd rather another main female protagonist not suffer from it, 'cause in token female situations it still frequently happens.

Also: I now headcanon that Cedric writes romance stories in his free time.

>>I'm guessing he'll be the more serious and restrained one? Not Spock levels, but Rose is brainy and energetic, so "the mature one" isn't yet there.
>He just seems so... ordinary. [...] I'm pretty sure he won't fill the "Voice of reason" role, as that'd be taken by Rose, and the rest of the Filly Five would have to be seriously off-track for Cedric to be the "Only sane man".
Is that Rose? I thought she was the quick-thinking and adventurous one. Couldn't Cedric still be down-to-earth and logical in the same way as Hermione is for Harry Potter? How about "sheltered posh kid"?

>I can imagine that I have really bad genes.
You come across as friendly and reasonable, so your genes probably lean towards that, but no pressure! Passing on genes is over-romanticised, I think.

>This has to be the first time I've talked to a person who's had almost(?) as much problems with babies as I have, especially among people I'd consider reliable, so I'm pretty excited and may or may not go a bit far when I'm writing in my excitement.
Haha, no worries! Outside of Ponychan I don't think I've ever come across anyone else above "kids annoy me" on that scale. I think we have another around /oat/, if it wasn't you who asked Positively not to talk about their kids? I remember it being Mondo... Unless I'm getting confused, it's kind of funny that a 'chan for a kids' show has at least three people heavily on the side of "children scare me".
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>>1327955
Ohh, I like that pair. Good job.
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>>1329734
>Ideally none of them will be regularly reduced to "the one with a crush", I just meant that I'd rather another main female protagonist not suffer from it, 'cause in token female situations it still frequently happens.
Indeed, though I have seen males being "the one with a crush" (Oscar on Bea in Fish Hooks, and did Jake ever officially have a crush on Princess Bubblegum?). Ideally, having "one with the crush" would never work for a character long-term in this show.

>Also: I now headcanon that Cedric writes romance stories in his free time.
I can imagine it too.

>Is that Rose? I thought she was the quick-thinking and adventurous one. Couldn't Cedric still be down-to-earth and logical in the same way as Hermione is for Harry Potter? How about "sheltered posh kid"?
I remember from the first trailer that Rose (apparently...) tried to talk Bella out of her hero status, so while she's indeed quick-thinking and adventurous, she seems to be the one to bring down her friends when they act unusual. Hermione was smart, but seemed generally displeased, as I can't actually remember her smiling wide on any occasion in the movies, so I doubt that Cedric is like her. If we extend it to "sheltered posh kid discovering the non-posh joys of life", then I'll chip in.

>You come across as friendly and reasonable, so your genes probably lean towards that, but no pressure!
I'm one of seemingly pretty few who's more kind and tolerative on the internet than IRL, as I'm in real life known for temper issues and discussions that go nowhere. But I usually try my very best to be friendly on Ponychan.

>I think we have another around /oat/, if it wasn't you who asked Positively not to talk about their kids?
Ehh... that was actually me too.

>Outside of Ponychan I don't think I've ever come across anyone else above "kids annoy me" on that scale.
>Unless I'm getting confused, it's kind of funny that a 'chan for a kids' show has at least (two) people heavily on the side of "children scare me".
I don't think I've found any people either who's gone above that on the scale, at least among people who are allowed to walk in public unassisted. There was one of the autists on the school facilities I mentioned some weeks ago who for a while had a habit of pushing small children over, which is beyond what even I would do. I have two theories that could combine my watching of childrens' programmes with a distaste for children: The first is that both factors are a result of a limited range of emotions for my age, which has made me think that I have the emotions of about a 10-year old (not any higher than 12); and the second is that I began to watch preschool shows regularly because they at the time had a much lower chance of having parenting and childsitting of young children as a topic, compared to adult shows or even 5-9 kid shows
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>>1329771
I could spot three ships in that picture, but they all look good as far as me and shipping comics are regarded.

Edit: The editing and spoilering functions doesn't like me today...

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>>1329771
Thanks! Like Life says, there are three, but I'll assume you meant the whole pic?

>>1330140
>did Jake ever officially have a crush on Princess Bubblegum?
Finn did, which has been explored through some long story arcs, but it never overtook him. Irritatingly, Fionna (of the canon rule 63 world) has been largely limited to romance plots in her two eps.

>Ideally, having "one with the crush" would never work for a character long-term in this show.
Aye.

>"sheltered posh kid discovering the non-posh joys of life"
That works!

>I'm one of seemingly pretty few who's more kind and tolerative on the internet than IRL, as I'm in real life known for temper issues and discussions that go nowhere. But I usually try my very best to be friendly on Ponychan.
Ah! Fair enough.

>>I think we have another around /oat/, if it wasn't you who asked Positively not to talk about their kids?
>Ehh... that was actually me too.
Ha, my bad!

>I have two theories that could combine my watching of childrens' programmes with a distaste for children: The first is that both factors are a result of a limited range of emotions for my age, which has made me think that I have the emotions of about a 10-year old (not any higher than 12); and the second is that I began to watch preschool shows regularly because they at the time had a much lower chance of having parenting and childsitting of young children as a topic, compared to adult shows or even 5-9 kid shows.
They're interesting theories but I'm not sure either cover me... Maybe just coincidence then!
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I think I yet again found something [www.youtube.com] on YouTube, but I can't figure out if it's really good or really bad, nor whether it's meant for humour or hating. It's apparently parts of the first trailer with snippets of other shows to point out stuff about the trailer, but in deep contrast to the trailer commentary from one or two months ago, some (but only some) of the jokes in this video are actually funny. A particular golden nugget was an office guy being pretty frustrated by the show's delay... if that's what he was annoyed about.... This is what I get for stretching my Saturdays into infinity in an attempt to be less awake on a Sunday.

>>1330176
>Finn did, which has been explored through some long story arcs, but it never overtook him. Irritatingly, Fionna (of the canon rule 63 world) has been largely limited to romance plots in her two eps.
I eventually spotted that I had mixed up the names of Finn and Jake... after 11 minutes, one minute after the editing deadline. I'd probably say that the Fionna episodes' change of style made the episodes unusual, but then, every one of the 20-ish episodes of Adventure Time I've come across were unusual.
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>>1330614
>I think I yet again found something on YouTube, but I can't figure out if it's really good or really bad, nor whether it's meant for humour or hating.
Pretty sure it's hating, but it had some funny moments. +5 irony points for criticising it using Equestria Girls, which is My Little Pony without ponies and with minimal magic set in a high school. Pretty clear which show's closer to classic Brony interests.

Though when FF comes out, I'll be curious to hear why those who disliked FF but liked EG felt they compared, and might let us know how much "horses and magic" elements matter overall. And still inb4 us current enthusiasts end up somehow disliking the show whilst all the haters love it.

>every one of the 20-ish episodes of Adventure Time I've come across were unusual.
That they are!
>> No. 1331858
>>1330698
I haven't seen EqG yet (or anything pony since Magical Mystery Cure), but as I understand it, that's not a My Little Pony movie to begin with; it was a crossover with a completely different franchise, like the Jetsons meeting the Flintstones or some such. Or that kidified ripoff of Grant Morrisson's 'The Filth', Generator Rex, meeting Ben 10. But I'll know for sure when I see it, once my head's cleared. Gotta keep an open mind, after all.

Honestly, I do hope FF turns out to be enjoyable. If nothing else, I like the visuals so far, as well as the idea of gender balance in a girl's show (especially with underaged characters), and it'd be a shame if it was marred by bad stories and fake drama.
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>>1330698
>Pretty clear which show's closer to classic Brony interests.
>Though when FF comes out, I'll be curious to hear why those who disliked FF but liked EG felt they compared, and might let us know how much "horses and magic" elements matter overall.
Indeed, but I notice that most bronies aren't open for variations on the FiM base, nor girls' shows that aim for FiM's age audience. Many Ponychanners make a huge point out of not liking EqG, people on Equestria Daily were far more negative than positive to FF's first trailer, there's still at least a small majority of the fanbase who wouldn't touch pre-FiM gens with a ten-foot pole, Strawberry Shortcake BBA is ridiculed when it's brought up in streams, and the list goes on.

I think they either make up reasons or rehash the usual reasons for why FiM (and on rare occasions EqG) is super-spectacular and every other girls' show is an insultment to humanity, so I doubt that factors like magic or horses that look slightly different will matter much to those people.

>And still inb4 us current enthusiasts end up somehow disliking the show whilst all the haters love it.
That would be a really strange thing to happen. As (presumably) fun as that theory sounds, it'd probably require them to rip off FiM literally and verbatim for most of the haters to jump ship.

>>1331858
As far as I can tell from watching the movie twice and coming across short discussions of it, EqG isn't a crossover with anything, but quite a few people has accused it of ripping off Monster High and the general high school genre (I just believe it's in the same genre as them and not ripping off them). I also remember reading a note on how Generator Rex was based on a comic that only got two issues (M. Rex according to Wikipedia) and had to greatly expand the story for the cartoon.
>> No. 1331943
>>>1331924
>I also remember reading a note on how Generator Rex was based on a comic that only got two issues (M. Rex according to Wikipedia) and had to greatly expand the story for the cartoon.

Upon reading that on wiki, I'd say the expansion made liberal use of inspiration by Grant Morrison comics. The talking monkey, the nanites, the government organisation, the uncanny resemblance between Noah and Jack Frost from the Invisibles... it's unfair to say so, but it really does look like someone just made a child-friendly version of The Filth with some Invisibles thrown in. Which is kinda missing the point, all things considered.

>I think they either make up reasons or rehash the usual reasons for why FiM (and on rare occasions EqG) is super-spectacular and every other girls' show is an insultment to humanity, so I doubt that factors like magic or horses that look slightly different will matter much to those people.

It's because they consider FiM to be part of their identity now. They've invested a lot of emotion into it, so it's considered part of their Self. And as a result, they're so rigid they fight anything Not-Self. They quite simply can't abandon FiM because they'd be losing a part of themselves. Same thing happened with Harry Potter when it ended, or James Cameron's Expression Viewer. Heck, Pokémon perfected that mechanism as a franchise, and it still thrives.

Product loyalty above all other loyalties.

Also, what are those things in the picture? They look... err... iffy.
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>>1331858
>I haven't seen EqG yet (or anything pony since Magical Mystery Cure), but as I understand it, that's not a My Little Pony movie to begin with; it was a crossover with a completely different franchise
Nope... Could you be mixing that up with how it doesn't influence FIM? Easy to accept it into FIM canon, there's a secondary character seen in both, but we don't have reason to think it's not an alternate universe's trip to an alternate universe.

>Honestly, I do hope FF turns out to be enjoyable. If nothing else, I like the visuals so far, as well as the idea of gender balance in a girl's show (especially with underaged characters), and it'd be a shame if it was marred by bad stories and fake drama.
Yeah. I like the horses and magic bits too! It would really have to be very bad to stop me watching it.

Still think it's a funny idea that everyone could have got completely the wrong impression of it though (haters included). It also emphasises the point that we still don't really know what it'll be like, despite some haters acting like they've already experts on the matter.

>>1331924
>>Pretty clear which show's closer to classic Brony interests.
>>Though when FF comes out, I'll be curious to hear why those who disliked FF but liked EG felt they compared, and might let us know how much "horses and magic" elements matter overall.
>Indeed, but I notice that most bronies aren't open for variations on the FiM base, nor girls' shows that aim for FiM's age audience.
True, some people do like to act like FIM is a ground-breaking animation with amazing plots that has created entirely new standards for girls' entertainment. Y'know, rather than just a fun cartoon that serves as a better reminder than some that girls' cartoons can have appeal for a variety of audiences, not exclusively little girls.

>Many Ponychanners make a huge point out of not liking EqG
I think that's the most understandable of the list, given that it's not just something separate: Hasbro could have tried a FIM film and instead brought in humans. Also means more human dolls in the MLP section of shops, which bugs me since I don't like dolls.

>I think they either make up reasons or rehash the usual reasons for why FiM (and on rare occasions EqG) is super-spectacular and every other girls' show is an insultment to humanity, so I doubt that factors like magic or horses that look slightly different will matter much to those people.
True... They'd have to be convinced that FF is "like MLP" to say good things about it. This said, in some cases I wonder just how many cartoons some Bronies watch in order to be so impressed by FIM.

>>And still inb4 us current enthusiasts end up somehow disliking the show whilst all the haters love it.
>That would be a really strange thing to happen. As (presumably) fun as that theory sounds, it'd probably require them to rip off FiM literally and verbatim for most of the haters to jump ship.
Haha, true, though some haters would say that exactly fulfil their expectations.

>quite a few people has accused it of ripping off Monster High and the general high school genre (I just believe it's in the same genre as them and not ripping off them).
Not ripping off the stories, just the funny-coloured, sort-of-human, high school student thing, Sadly not ripping off the excellent quality and imaginative toys, either, which explains most of the franchise's appeal. (Though I have quite liked most of the MH shorts I've seen: They do do some interesting stuff.)

>>1331943
>>I think they either make up reasons or rehash the usual reasons for why FiM (and on rare occasions EqG) is super-spectacular and every other girls' show is an insultment to humanity, so I doubt that factors like magic or horses that look slightly different will matter much to those people.
>It's because they consider FiM to be part of their identity now. They've invested a lot of emotion into it, so it's considered part of their Self. And as a result, they're so rigid they fight anything Not-Self.
Interesting analysis, and does make sense... It's strange what people will cling onto.

>Heck, Pokémon perfected that mechanism as a franchise, and it still thrives.
Tsk, it STARTED by feeding my OCD ("Gotta catch 'em all!"), but rapidly moved away from that later on. I find that the big divide between the "only 150 (+1) true Pokémon" crowd and the "I still play religiously"/"the series just keeps getting better!" side is whether or not they considered completing the Pokédex to be the real aim of the game.
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I decided to make a meme picture. It looked somewhat better in my mind than the final result, but it's probably still good.

>>1331943
>It's because they consider FiM to be part of their identity now. They've invested a lot of emotion into it, so it's considered part of their Self. And as a result, they're so rigid they fight anything Not-Self. They quite simply can't abandon FiM because they'd be losing a part of themselves. Same thing happened with Harry Potter when it ended, or James Cameron's Expression Viewer [wordfilter sic].
>Product loyalty above all other loyalties.
That actually makes perfect sense to me...

>Also, what are those things in the picture? They look... err... iffy.
Badly designed mascot costumes from a shopping centre promotion of EqG somewhere in Latin-America. There is a wider shot somewhere that shows their bodies and some spectators around them.

>>1332021
>True, some people do like to act like FIM is a ground-breaking animation with amazing plots that has created entirely new standards for girls' entertainment. Y'know, rather than just a fun cartoon that serves as a better reminder than some that girls' cartoons can have appeal for a variety of audiences, not exclusively little girls.
In the years before FiM (2009-'10), I was really into the Pokémon anime, Total Drama Island/Action and South Park, and my only good experience with girls' franchises were the Disney Fairies and Enchanted, so FiM actually was quite a ground-breaker and refreshing experience for me back then. But now that my viewing schedule encompasses at least three other girls' or girls+neutral cartoons that followed in the wake of FiM when it became a viable success, the ground-breaking feeling has gone away. People often talk about how Seinfeld, Final Fantasy VII and Shrek 1 were truly revolutionary and one of a kind, but when their advantages were followed by other media, it became difficult to explain to youngsters how staggering they were in the olden days. I have it like that with girls' shows.

As for why people would still stick with FiM and only that, I think FiM embraced the gender neutrality from early S2 onwards, instead of the girliness that the contemporary Strawberry Shortcake BBA betted on.

>This said, in some cases I wonder just how many cartoons some Bronies watch in order to be so impressed by FIM.
I've noticed a tendency throughout the past two years where those who like FiM also have a clear tendency to like other popular cult cartoons and seemingly only them. AT, Regular Show, PPG, Animaniacs, Foster's, Samurai Jack, early Spongebob, were all very often mentioned and most still are. After all those wacky, chaotic, male-oriented and often violent US shows, FiM must have felt like a refreshment to them. You never saw TF Prime, Phineas & Ferb, Space Ghost C2C nor Family Guy mentioned, to mention shows a general cult fan could be expected to have watched. And that's not getting into the girls' or non-fanbased shows out there.

>Haha, true, though some haters would say that exactly fulfil their expectations.
Ah, I didn't think of that!

>Not ripping off the stories, just the funny-coloured, sort-of-human, high school student thing, Sadly not ripping off the excellent quality and imaginative toys, either, which explains most of the franchise's appeal. (Though I have quite liked most of the MH shorts I've seen: They do do some interesting stuff.)
I surprisingly turned out to prefer Ever After High over MH by far when I saw a half-hour episode of the former on the Easter weekend. They didn't just have daughters of Snow White and Malevolent like in the plain ads: One scene showed the son of Pinoccio, who was human. Made me wonder what kind of relationships Pinoccio has had over the years. The daughter of the Swan Princess was a close second on the oddness scale. Also, Sparrow Hood, that guy was über-cool.

>I find that the big divide between the "only 150 (+1) true Pokémon" crowd and the "I still play religiously"/"the series just keeps getting better!" side is whether or not they considered completing the Pokédex to be the real aim of the game.
I followed the Catch 'Em All mentality as late as G4, and had ~481 legit catches (out of 493 possible), and three or four unlegit. The jump to G5 proved to be too much for me, and now I'm stuck in a limbo between the two camps.

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>>1332338
>meme
That's pretty weird. I like it!

>>True, some people do like to act like FIM is a ground-breaking animation with amazing plots that has created entirely new standards for girls' entertainment. Y'know, rather than just a fun cartoon that serves as a better reminder than some that girls' cartoons can have appeal for a variety of audiences, not exclusively little girls.
>my only good experience with girls' franchises were the Disney Fairies and Enchanted, so FiM actually was quite a ground-breaker and refreshing experience for me back then.
It's a product of its time and, while it may stick out around shows aimed at little girls, some people think it sticks out beyond all other cartoons in terms of things such as characterisation, which I've never understood. To me the cast of MLP seems largely basic and just serves its purpose, so I wouldn't say any of the characters stand out as particularly deep (despite some amazing fan theories). They have some good moments, but so does just about any character written by multiple people. In contrast, Sym-Bionic Titan really spent time giving development to its characters and repeatedly gave us views into that development from their own view and how it went together with their past.

Not that simple characters and a lack of long story arcs isn't fun in its own way, but I don't see why people would praise it based on something it doesn't have unless they just haven't watched cartoons do it better.

>>This said, in some cases I wonder just how many cartoons some Bronies watch in order to be so impressed by FIM.
>I've noticed a tendency throughout the past two years where those who like FiM also have a clear tendency to like other popular cult cartoons and seemingly only them. AT, Regular Show, PPG, Animaniacs, Foster's, Samurai Jack, early Spongebob, were all very often mentioned and most still are. After all those wacky, chaotic, male-oriented and often violent US shows, FiM must have felt like a refreshment to them. You never saw TF Prime, Phineas & Ferb, Space Ghost C2C nor Family Guy mentioned, to mention shows a general cult fan could be expected to have watched. And that's not getting into the girls' or non-fanbased shows out there.
Signs that Bronies are mostly cartoon nerds, I suppose (ahem), but that just makes some of the FIM praise even more confusing. FIM stars non-humanoids in a happy fantasy world with no attempt to be edgy/gritty, nor to include politics, nor constant real-world references: It stands out, but the writing? The characters? Some of the episodes are old plots done poorly and the characters often need headcanon to explain actions, even this late in the series.

>>Not ripping off the stories, just the funny-coloured, sort-of-human, high school student thing, Sadly not ripping off the excellent quality and imaginative toys, either, which explains most of the franchise's appeal. (Though I have quite liked most of the MH shorts I've seen: They do do some interesting stuff.)
>I surprisingly turned out to prefer Ever After High over MH by far when I saw a half-hour episode of the former on the Easter weekend. They didn't just have daughters of Snow White and Malevolent like in the plain ads: One scene showed the son of Pinoccio, who was human. Made me wonder what kind of relationships Pinoccio has had over the years. The daughter of the Swan Princess was a close second on the oddness scale. Also, Sparrow Hood, that guy was über-cool.
Ah, that's interesting! I don't really know anything about the Ever After High series other than it being Mattel trying to get people who aren't into horror interested in their stuff.

>>I find that the big divide between the "only 150 (+1) true Pokémon" crowd and the "I still play religiously"/"the series just keeps getting better!" side is whether or not they considered completing the Pokédex to be the real aim of the game.
>I followed the Catch 'Em All mentality as late as G4, and had ~481 legit catches (out of 493 possible), and three or four unlegit. The jump to G5 proved to be too much for me, and now I'm stuck in a limbo between the two camps.
Wow, that's commitment! I struggled at G2 and gave up by G3. Gave White a try but hated the graphics with a passion, then the save messed up and lost a few hours' gameplay, which was kind of a relief. The type of 3D DS encourages really irks me, and the shrinking of pixel images for a cheap 3D effect is something I look down in freeware games by inexperienced people.
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>>1333033
>pic
They have a Marmalade Bean Day? I could sort of understand Happy Siblings Day, even though one of the Fillys rose up and another stood on all four to simulate a big/younger brother thing.

>That's pretty weird. I like it!
I was aiming for the "Expand Dong"-meme crowd, and I also tried to use as many of the logo's letters as possible.

>and, while it may stick out around shows aimed at little girls, some people think it sticks out beyond all other cartoons in terms of things such as characterisation, which I've never understood. To me the cast of MLP seems largely basic and just serves its purpose, so I wouldn't say any of the characters stand out as particularly deep (despite some amazing fan theories).
If we rank by the amount of characterisation, FiM doesn't do well, as characters often have characteristics that can be counted on one hand (From what I remember of RD, she has attitude, has a thing for the Wonderbolts, is loyal, is fast, and is impatient. That'd be five things). So I think the characterisation praise comes from how they like the characters, and not how developed they are: I've never seen people think that Fluttershy is deep, has lots of story to build up on her, or learns things that changes her personality's status quo. They just like her because she's "cute" and super-hyper-shy.

>(...), but that just makes some of the FIM praise even more confusing. FIM stars non-humanoids in a happy fantasy world with no attempt to be edgy/gritty, nor to include politics, nor constant real-world references: It stands out, but the writing? The characters? Some of the episodes are old plots done poorly and the characters often need headcanon to explain actions, even this late in the series.
Some of the episodes do seem pretty recycled:

-A surprise birthday party episode or two (PoO and TLR),
-Child-/animal-sitting episodes (TSM, JFS, among at least one other),
-Wedding-gone-awry
-Sports duel episodes, one of which (FWF) with sabotages
-Two people fighting for a boyfriend (I can't remember the name, but it was in S4)
-Animal care with complications (Bird in the Hoof)
-A music contest (FV), and I swear I saw a prisoner-outsmarts-the-captives plot when I watched The Penguins of Madagascar some hours ago.

When I think about it, only a few of these mentioned episodes felt like they changed the trope formula in any way. And especially: Compared to PoO, even Equestria Girls felt innovative in comparison.

>I don't really know anything about the Ever After High series other than it being Mattel trying to get people who aren't into horror interested in their stuff.
Wait a minute, EAH was made by Mattel too? I was convinced that it was another company trying to exploit Monster High's popularity. *goes to Wikipedia* Well, that really was Mattel.

Speaking of popularity exploiting, my mind is inventing the term magic-high-sploitation to cover the genre of MH, EAH, EqG and most attempts to exploit any of those three. Primarily because I remember seeing stuff like blaxploitation, oz-ploitation and ninjasploitation, and it's about time the world see a new 'sploitation.

>Wow, that's commitment! I struggled at G2 and gave up by G3. Gave White a try but hated the graphics with a passion, then the save messed up and lost a few hours' gameplay, which was kind of a relief. The type of 3D DS encourages really irks me, and the shrinking of pixel images for a cheap 3D effect is something I look down in freeware games by inexperienced people.
I used Pearl, Platinum, SoulSilver and HeartGold (The PTN and HG were my brother's games) to do it. I lacked a G3 game, so the Regi quad was out of my reach. The DS could do really good 3D for its hardware if Super Mario 64 DS was any indicator, and since Pokémon relie(s/d) on small areas connected by corridors anyway, they could easily have done a 3D game on the old DS if they wanted too, topping even what I've seen of 3DS' X/Y or the Orre games.
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>They have a Marmalade Bean Day? I could sort of understand Happy Siblings Day, even though one of the Fillys rose up and another stood on all four to simulate a big/younger brother thing.
Days for everything, yayyy!

>>That's pretty weird. I like it!
>I was aiming for the "Expand Dong"-meme crowd, and I also tried to use as many of the logo's letters as possible.
Ohh, okay. I've not seen much of that meme before.

>So I think the characterisation praise comes from how they like the characters, and not how developed they are: I've never seen people think that Fluttershy is deep, has lots of story to build up on her, or learns things that changes her personality's status quo. They just like her because she's "cute" and super-hyper-shy.
I hope they meant that, because I'm pretty sure I have seen people say that they're amazing characters in terms of depth/etc.

>When I think about it, only a few of these mentioned episodes felt like they changed the trope formula in any way. And especially: Compared to PoO, even Equestria Girls felt innovative in comparison.
I suppose the "trip to an alternate universe" bit forced it to do some things differently...

>>I don't really know anything about the Ever After High series other than it being Mattel trying to get people who aren't into horror interested in their stuff.
>Wait a minute, EAH was made by Mattel too? I was convinced that it was another company trying to exploit Monster High's popularity. *goes to Wikipedia* Well, that really was Mattel.
Same company trying to exploit its own popularity!

>Speaking of popularity exploiting, my mind is inventing the term magic-high-sploitation to cover the genre of MH, EAH, EqG and most attempts to exploit any of those three. Primarily because I remember seeing stuff like blaxploitation, oz-ploitation and ninjasploitation, and it's about time the world see a new 'sploitation.
Weird how these things come in trends... I still think the high school setting is horribly overused, though. I get the idea that it's meant to appeal to high-schoolers, but we rarely see people make series/films about normal workplaces to appeal to adults unless it's parodying the environment. The most popular films/series starring high school students, like the most popular films/series starring adults with ordinary jobs, focus on them outside of the work environment. Besides, I suspect people who do like realistic, down-to-earth, series would prefer to see it played out with real people rather than cartoons. </grumble>

>I used Pearl, Platinum, SoulSilver and HeartGold (The PTN and HG were my brother's games) to do it. I lacked a G3 game, so the Regi quad was out of my reach.
I'm impressed!

>The DS could do really good 3D for its hardwar