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How do you feel about American Nationalism? Moony!ALoveyoutM Tue, May 27th, 2014 17:36 No. 171950

i am an American, and i rather love my country! But, at the same time, i know there are a few things that make other countries uncomfortable.

i wanted to share a few things with you, and ask you what your thoughts were. i will also make another thread in /oat/, to compare results with, if that's okay!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeYF1kWRCRs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8FJmw-6r5k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VNeMVH0L-o
This is called the Pledge of Allegiance. Most children in school are required to say the Pledge of Allegiance before the school day starts, and also at every assembly.

Growing up, every morning, our school would also see My Country Tis of Thee, which is the British National Anthem "God Save the Queen," but with lyrics such as these:
http://kids.niehs.nih.gov/games/songs/patriotic/mycountry.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0ywDLpfBHg
^You can listen to it, here

Here is one of our American Sporting Events
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzFucqDElyE

It is a short clip. It shows the National Anthem being played before a sport's game, followed by our Air Force jets doing what is called a "flyover"

it is very common in the United States to do this for sports games.

But, if you must watch any clip here, please watch this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4tTgPYuavk

It is Steven Fry, of the United Kingdom, attending an American football game at the college level. It is not even at the national level.

As he says, it has the "scale, intensity, and hooplah of a grand national final." Yet, it is just a local football game played by, as Steven Fry says "amateur students"

If nothing else, please watch that clip for its ending... and for Mr. Fry's reaction.

And please, let me know your thoughts! i'd love to hear them. And, if it is okay, please let us know which country you are posting from/as a poster of, so that i can understand your nation's point of view!

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AustroSpike Wed, May 28th, 2014 00:12 No. 171951
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Austria, I only watched the last clip, and this is my personal view.

In elementary school we also sang a funny little song for school start, so whatever.

I would really like to know how long this whole ceremony takes, and how long the actually game takes.

Funnily just the other day a colleague of mine who spent an exchange semester in LA enlightened us about the sheer necessity of blown-up college football for mere financial reasons. Mercenary structures even in educational facilities, if you wish. Maybe you have to put on a big show to lure more people in.

Combine that with the (as I sometimes see it) patriotism of "Other countries might have had random history, but we fought for freedom and won and then shaped the country according to our very own will, truly this must be the greatest country in the world", and you get rituals like that.

I think I'd have to witness it myself to actually feel something about it, like Fry

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