>>162245
What if we put it with /art/?

>>162211
>>162245
you touch /pic/ I'll hug you

It's scary how in theory we could just have one single board that accepts all and it would work.
It wouldn't work because people would rage.
But for all practical purposes, we don't have the traffic for this to be an issue.

>>162248

It's not that scary. /mlp/ got pretty big with just a single board. Not sure how it's doing now, what with the recent shenanigans over on 4chan, though.

That aside, while some condensation is possible, I think it's better to keep some boards separate, even if they're slow. Not because they couldn't place their topics on /all/ and call it good, but because "slow" is actually a feature in some cases, rather than just a malady to solve. People would gladly sacrifice post counts if it cut out a bunch of posts they didn't actually want to see. That's really the point of splitting into multiple boards in the first place. And while having less traffic makes that seem less important, it doesn't actually remove the underlying desire for compartmentalization.

>>162246
Dont forget /collab/!

>>162247
Zeke's possibly doing something with /pic/, i think it was mentioned in the feature request sticky, so it's not an issue at the moment until he gets back to us on that.

>>162249
>because "slow" is actually a feature in some cases, rather than just a malady to solve
Can't speak for everyone here, but I personally have never seen anyone but you call Ponychan's slowness a good thing. From what I can tell, most people would like the site to go faster.

>>162253
The one defense that /g/ and /vinyl/ posters have consistently used in the past is that having a slow board where threads pertaining to their interests could always be found was preferable to making/looking for a video game or music thread on /chat/ and having it shoved off the front page in two hours.

Which is sort of nullified now that /chat/ is much slower and /oat/ threads that people actually want to discuss tend to stay on the front page for at least half a day or more.

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>>162253

If people wanted things to always go as fast as possible, we'd never have split the chan into like 20 boards. I think that pretty much settles my case.

And while I am sort of a minority in that I don't miss the hyper activity of 2011, I'm not the only person with that viewpoint, either.

>'slow' is a feature
It can be, yes, but I don't think it's suited for a chan

>>162250
in that context it was more of a 'delete /pic/ plx'

when people say they'd like the site to go faster im pretty sure they mean "i want more people to come here and use this site". quickness isn't always a good thing. for example, if we moved /gala/ into /oat/ or something, the serials would be bumping so fast that it would be as unbearable as it was around when /ef/ was made

More activity usually sounds fundamentally good, but imagine if posts are actually coming into your thread faster than you have time to read them. You might have to start skipping posts to keep up with things, and if you wanted to post yourself, there's a chance your posts are getting skipped. Not because they're bad posts, either, but because there's just such a huge flood of posts that some of them are going to get ignored by default. And with the thread moving that quickly, you're kind of forced to give it all of your attention, so you don't get to look at any of the other threads on the site, or do anything off-site.

Now that isn't inherently a bad thing, but it demonstrates a sort of hard limit to activity. Posts beyond that just won't really fit. There isn't any effective room for them. A good metaphor might be a convention. If we recognize that we have a limit on space, we could work to completely fill that space, but then you're cramped into the building surrounded by fat smelly dudes who probably have 18 diseases. You have to start waiting in line for hours to get into the panels you want to see, while missing out on all the other cool ones. This isn't all that terrible for the site, who simply gets to bask in their popularity and enjoy it, but for the end user things are not nearly as comfortable. If we're slow enough that there's a few open seats at each panel, instead, then it's less likely that you'll get stuck in line between fat crossdressing Sailor Moon cosplayers and more likely that you'll just be enjoying the threads.

>>162254
>Which is sort of nullified now that /chat/ is much slower and /oat/ threads that people actually want to discuss tend to stay on the front page for at least half a day or more.
[Note taking intensifies]

>>162256
i know

>>162260
>And with the thread moving that quickly, you're kind of forced to give it all of your attention, so you don't get to look at any of the other threads on the site, or do anything off-site.
That's why "watch thread" became a thing, so you had a handy list of threads you were interested in that would also notify you when it recieved a reply or when a reply was directed at your post specifically.

>>162261

Watching threads is only useful when those threads are slow, though. It lets you close the tab and come back to it later when a post happens so you don't have to stare directly at it all the time. If the threads are moving quickly, and you're focused on one thread, being notified that another fast moving thread also has activity doesn't actually help. If the threads are moving that quickly, simply leaving them both open in their own tabs will let you know that there's new posts. There's no opportunity for the Watched Threads feature to pop up.

Do note that this is all hypothetical and I'm not saying we don't have room for growth here. I'm just presenting a counter argument to "gotta go fast". Sometimes more speed isn't a good thing. It all depends on where that effective limit actually lies.

Edit: It's slightly more than hypothetical, in that it's also exactly what happened to the site before. There was too much activity, new people were scared off, old people shuffled into serial threads because they didn't have the attention span to use the rest of the board, and we split off things like /g/ and /vinyl/ to remove clutter from other boards. Sort of a "go talk about this over there" thing.

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can i just add... quality over quantity.
right now though... it seems like we have very little of both.

>>162262
The answer is simple young one.
Multi-thread drifting.

>>162261
then why would you bring up zeke's plans or whatever
i don't believe you
:cccc

>>162265
because the reason i havent already suggested axing it is because zeke might make it useful again

>>162266
okay
i'll keep watching then
see what will happen
'n stuff

at least things are happening ...right?

>>162264

Multi thread drifting?!

Nice tabs, but I wish I was at home to show off my own!

>>162264
> /d/ hentai

you like sexy anime boys, don't you?

>>162279
merely >sexy anime boys
Are you sure you know about /d/?

>>162245
>>162246
I mean, that'd be like the /fan/ idea that has gone around a few times.

Wait....just /fic/ and /art/, nothing else....... /artic/ was the joke there, right? Right?

>>162294
>>162279
>>162268

>>162302
Sure let's go with that.

>>162304
>>162304
So yeah...collapse /collab/, /art/, /fic/ and /merch/ into /fan/, make /choat/ a thing and then we can bring back /hi/. Seems good and awesome to me.

>>162306

I feel like merch stuff goes better on /oat/. Discussion of toys and whatnot. Or maybe even /pony/. Custom toys would go in /fan/, of course, but not the official stuff.

>>162306
> /chode/

Can we use /hi/ at this point?
We don't get a lot of extra traffic anymore.

Also, personally I'm not a favour of collapsing all functional boards into one, but if they don't get the traffic anymore.
It would be advised, though to try and update /fan/ into something very workable, instead of just mashing stuff into a frankenstein and letting it rot.


Alternatively, work for everfree model:
/meta/: all things site related
/pony/: all things pony/show/fandom related
/chat/: social place for everything non-pony

Last edited at Wed, Oct 29th, 2014 01:58

>>162309
>killing /arch/
>killing /rp/
>killing /gala/
Whoa there.

>>162306
What about:
/meta/
/arch/
/pony/
/pic/ Might be removed, waiting on techpony
/merch/
/oat/ merged with /chat/ and /g/
/gala/ merged with /int/
/fan/ /art/fic merged into a single entity
/collab/ Need to make threads on the respective boards to see if they'd be open to merging into /fan/, i think they would from what little i've gathered, but i'm not 100%
/rp/
/ooc/
/vinyl/
/dis/

We could rename /oat/ to /hi/ in this hypothetical setup and have it be the starting platform for every other board, since it already accepts every topic.
Only reasons i can see for keeping the name is
1) The reference
2) Sentimentality
wheras the only reasons i can see for changing the name is
1) Clarity
2)I could make the subtitle "/Hi/-octane oatmeal violence."

Anyone got anymore?

>>162306
>>162308
/merch/ might fit into /oat/ or /pony/, but it's a bit of a different beast compared to the other two, so it'd probably get rekt if we tried to put it with another board.
Once it reaches /g/ or /good/ levels of inactivity it'll be worth looking into though.

>>162311

Well I'm not advocating for its deletion. It's not an especially active place, but it does exist and people do post things there. I almost bought something there, but it was on Ebay and Ebay is hard...

But no, my point was only that it doesn't really belong in the fanart section, that seems weird.

I do think /oat/ needs to really be positioned and sold as the "main" board. Oatmeal is a weird name whose primary purpose was a reference and a joke to the random nature of the board when it was spawned. Nowadays the board is different and that name doesn't quite fit. I don't know if "Hi" is quite right, either, though. If I think of any other ideas, I'll toss 'em out. Maybe rename /oat/ to /chat/, even? That's really its purpose these days, and /chat/ is both easy to understand and sounds like it would be a board center for things.

>>162311
I would strongly advise against ever renaming /oat/ unless it's /choat/ of course.

I still think a /hi/ board is good idea, but okay....you can just do your /hi/-octane thing....

>>162313

Yeah, unfortunately I think we've been down that road with the whole show/pony thing. I still think that was a pretty dumb thing and maybe now that it's been a while everyone else will also think it's a dumb thing? I dunno.

>>162313
The subtitle would only be there if we changed the name.

Why would you advise against it?
I need raisins to make a good decision.

>>162314
Most of the fallout from that came from the fact the "joke option" wasn't presented as such, leading people to vote for something they didnt think was serious.
The name change got some grumbling, but most people would have been okay with the change if they were actually able to choose the new name themselves.

>>162311
Doing a quick run-through of the boards again, /dis/ hasnt had any posts for around 10 days, might be worth rolling it into /chat/ regardless of whether we roll /chat/ into /oat/. Credit to crimson for idea

>>162316

What few posts it has gotten were kind of pathetic, too, and would have fit better on chat/oat anyhow.

>>162311
Does /vinyl/ actually get more traffic than /g/ and /dis/?

>>162318
Yep, although /g/ has shot up in activity since i made that list so I'm not too sure about it now.
I did entertain the thought of throwing it and /vinyl together to rebirth /media/ a while ago, but was convinced against it.

Going to say the same thing i said on mod board so people dont get the wrong idea, i'm not going to just push the big red button at an arbitary time, i'm going to make threads on the relevant boards to notify people and get some last minute objections / support / arguments etc.
After i make the board-threads though, i'll only wait like, a couple days / a week at most (depending on the speed of the individual board, i'll probably wait a week for /vinyl/ for instance.) before going ahead with whatever is hashed out in those threads is implemented.
If people complain about that, tough shit, it's not like /meta/ is private.*

*All this is subject to change should !!wifehorse have a problem with it.

>>162319
Consider asking the generals for the respective boards on /gala/ as well

>>162315
I just imagine people saying that yer killin' their /oat/. It's such a happy and actually active place. Lets not go about changing a board name to something that isn't broken.

  >>162313
I regret /chatoat/ being too long of a name.

>>162320
I'll just dump a link to the approriate thread in the serial.

>>162322
People always gonna be like that, s'why i'll probably do a quick poll for a most desired name.

And the problem is that some people could consider the name broken, seeing as how it references a season 1 joke which in turn describes how "crazy" the board can get.

I've not had my finger on /oat/'s pulse lately, but can it be considered 'crazy' now?

>>162326
> but can it be considered 'crazy' now?
hardly

I do think '/oat/' sort of ties the board to its supposed pony nature, so personally, I feel that cutting away with '/oat/' it kills a bit more the pony nature that ponychan has going.
Unless you replace it with a new references to ponies, though.
A pure functional name would hit harder in the feels.

>>162327
Hence the poll i'll make.
Hell, i'll make a thread now asking people to come up with names and see what happens.

>>162327

I think it's the only pony reference we have left in the boards, though, which makes it really odd. If we were to go through and rename every single board to some kind of board relevant pony name, then that's one idea, but as is I don't know that /oat/ makes any sense, even for keeping a pony feel around. It just sticks out too much.

>>162329
Well, /pony/ is obvious.

Now if we merged /ooc/ with /rp/, we could add /croop/ to the bunch.

>>162329
/gala/ is another pony reference
/vinyl/ ...might be, iunno

>>162331

Oh, yeah. Heh. See, though, those are so good at being references that I forgot they were references, because they sorta describe their boards again!

I mean, Vinyl does at least. Gala's more of a stretch.

>>162332

no its not. the gala was rlly important in season one

>>162333

Oh, I wasn't talking about it being a reference. I was talking about it describing the board.

>>162334
I think it's also fitting as a reference regardless though.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x12x6ml_the-best-night-ever-mlp-fim-s1-e26_tech?start=1240

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>>162326
Do you think a bunch of dudes playing with their pony dolls while wearing pony ears and a wig isn't crazy?