>Be nice, pls mods. Pls.
i agree

shoo

Cant because code monkies a shit, i tried to make it optional but it's too difficult for me to do with a pounding headache + my level of expertise.

I'll unforce it in a couple hours maybe, until then just deal with it for one day.

>>162338
K.

>>162339
You can hide the browser ponies by typing this in the custom styling box in Ponychan X.

#browser-ponies {display: none;}

then check off the box above it.

>>162340
I adblocked them a long time ago. It's just the whole forced theme change and autoplay that bugs me, really.

Seems we have another surprise visit from the fun police

Besides, I thought you hated /oat/. Why do you care?

Last edited at Fri, Oct 31st, 2014 09:49

So, just asking again. Can we permaban people complaining about fun?

Or at least ban them from /oat/ so we can have more fun!

>>162342
>>162343

>>162342
>>162343
>>162344
Or, you know, beyond the 'I don't like thing', there could be people with legitimate frustration at forced themes and browser ponies and so on if they use the site on a mobile device

But hey, don't let me interrupt your crucifixion because it happens to be Ember bringing it up. Having this kind of thing be optional if there's obviously, clearly going to be at least a handful of people effected by it is definitely way too much to ask of the people who were already going to be turning it on in the first place and could have easily made it optional. I mean hell, they're doing so much other important stuff that clearly has even higher priority than themes and faffing about.

Can we permaban people for complaining about Ember? At least from /meta/ ~

>>162346

this post turned me gay and now i want to kiss you

>>162347
Now we finally run off together, my love.

>>162346
>and could have easily made it optional.
Nigga, i tried, i was trying for most of yesterday in between being sick and dealing with a lot of other bullshit because i was the only person in the house.
Zamoonda was the first person to get back to me when i was asking about what shit meant, and this was at 10PM.
Granted, halloween was probably the worst time in which to ask for people to be around since social lives and shit, but still.

Not much we can do when every faggot who has more than a tertiary knowledge of this websites code decides to vanish from the face of the earth.

>>162349
No one's blaming you. No one blamed you. You weren't the person who implemented it, so why would you have been the one who had to make it optional?

>being surprised that Zamoonda, who you and I both know still actively posts on /meta/, gets back to you quickly when asked about a site matter
>being surprised that Zamoonda isn't waiting on every opportunity that may present itself to still be involved in any way whatsoever
lol, nigga are you kidding me. the moment you pinged him I can only imagine the salivation he must have experienced.

>>162350
I think the better question is why he even HAS Zamoonda friended in the first place. Didn't we permaban him? Multiple times?

>>162346
Yeah this. I mean, I understand it's supposed to be fun, but it was pretty annoying to have to deal with that theme the entire day. And the browser ponies kept getting in the way.

>>162346
>it happens to be Ember bringing it up
it happens to be him every time someone has fun and he can't report/ban them over it


aside from all that, is it really that hard to not go on /oat/ for a single day?
I mean as far as I know it was only on /oat/ right? go to /chat/ or something...

>>162353
>just don't go to the board you normally go to because someone couldn't put a toggle on the thing
lol okay, your solution is basically everyone in this situation puts themselves in a self-imposed 24 hour ban because it was too outrageously difficult to make the thing optional.

>>162349
Wait...are you saying someone turned on the forced theme change, but nobody knew how to turn it off?

Or was it on a timer? Was it set up last year and everyone forgot how it worked?

>>162355
He's saying someone turned it on, but that he (fenolio) didn't know how to turn it off, and the person who turned it on wasn't around the entire time it was on.

>>162354
yes

I'm sure the five people who hate it so much will survive it
I know I did

>>162357
>oh, people who could have been easily accommodated weren't? well, fuck those people, they can fuck off. I'm fine with it, so they should be too.
good old /meta/

>>162358
sigh
>people who could have been easily accommodated
>easily
apparently not-so-easy after all, with all the difficult coding
>fuck those people, they can fuck off
yes
split-chans are a thing too, I hear they're all-around accepting
>I'm fine with it
you misunderstand
I wasn't fine with the forced theme and desktop ponies, so I took a day off

>>162359
You're right of course, but you have to understand, the attitude described in >>162358 was very common around here in the past, so I can see why he'd be wary.

>>162359
>apparently not-so-easy after all, with all the difficult coding
Difficult not for the people who put it in, just difficult for Fenolio, who isn't a code monkey, and the people who did it just happened to be nowhere to be found all day. I thought that was pretty clear.
>I wasn't fine with the forced theme and desktop ponies, so I took a day off
And just because that was okay for you doesn't mean anyone else should have to.

>>162361
>second half
why not? seems reasonable

>>162350
>You weren't the person who implemented it
If we're talking about the forced theme and the desktop ponies, i was the guy who implemented it.

I fussed with it for about for around an hour before saying "fuck it" and forcing it on so that at least something was happening, with the justification of "It's only for one day on one board if i cant get this working properly."
I then spent most of the day on and off trying to make it optional, but nothing i tried worked because I'm crap at coding and Ponychan seems to use something that none of the online tutorials or examples i could find were able to help me fully with.

For reference, the forced theme was literally just placing:

The force theme was literally just:

<script type="text/javascript"><!--
set_stylesheet('nightmare');
//--></script>

inside the header, same with the two desktop ponies, Luna's parkinsons seemed to be an issue with firefox though.

And yes, i should have made it optional but i chose to implement it anyway because i share the same mentality as >>162359 and further more figured a single day's disruption for a few people was balanced out by the fun a few people had with it.
Not to mention that i didn't think it would be that hard to implement once i actually cracked it.

>>162351
Yeah, he's totes perma banned, but he never did anything directly to me so i'm not sure why i should remove him from my contacts when i can use him as a resource and lament with him about the follies of lesser beings.

How doable is it to make things optional anyways?

I mean, besides "optional" meaning "if you want to celebrate Halloween, go to some other Halloween site."

>>162363
wait, so none of the codemonkeys were around at all to even ask what to do for the entire time?
>>162363
>he never did anything directly
yeah, just indirectly, and continually as he defies his perma and therefore you as a mod/admin and the weird stalkerishness of keeping a file on you and the social engineering/manipulation of you he perpetuated along with everyone else he interacted with.

  >>162350
>You weren't the person who implemented it, so why would you have been the one who had to make it optional
Nah, he was. We were going to skip the browser ponies because of mobile users, but Fen decided to hold off until he could make it optional. In the end, we decided to cut the proposed number of browser ponies in half and do it without making it optional since Fen was tearing his hair out. They weren't implimented and then tried to make optional.

Fen not only could have disabled the forced browser change if he wanted, he actually did so way before it was intended to end because of complaints. It was ended before noon my time, which is an "improvement" over the other times we tried to have fun and left it up from dawn in England to midnight in California.

And the point stands, anyway. Ember shouldn't be set upon because it happens to be him raising the issue or because some fags wanna quick jolly over him and lolnofunallowed. Is it a critical issue? Nah, no one said it was. Just keep it in mind next time.

Last edited at Sat, Nov 1st, 2014 15:01

>>162365
The code monkeys are indeed rather absent. And they're the ones who are in charge of bringing on more code monkeys.

I think I've revised the "admin curse" to the "people with source code access curse"

>>162363
Remind me to not type up big posts on mobile.

>>162367
I'll say it again: it's always Ember, and if the same people say the same things again and again, they'll get some hate sooner or later

example: Twilicorn-drama
the people who don't shut up about it are the ones getting flak and hate

>>162364
Doable but i cant do it, going to run what zim zam told me through the code monkies when they show up.

>>162365
Still not seeing where i should cut off all contact with the guy, i'm not exactly giving him the keys to my house by talking with him occasionally.

A'sides, he's a good resource sometimes.

>>162368
Remember to do silly things as the sole admin when i inevitably get hit by a bus because i got access to the source.

i think the things zamoonda has done are a good enough reason to break off contact with him. i mean, between pretending to die for attention/an exit strategy, lying to your dumb asses to get on the staff and pretending to be someone else for months to maintain his mod position, going anon and shitposting on this board and continuously ban evading im more looking for a reason -not- to ignore the dude

but i mean, its not like im saying you cant do it or anything. im just saying there is a veritable tidal wave of reasons why you probably shouldnt, so i find it odd that you're not seeing why

Last edited at Sat, Nov 1st, 2014 16:04

>>162371
>>162372
Those are all reasons not to trust him, which i dont unless it's a technical issue and even then i double check it.
No offense zim zam but you kinda dug your own hole in that regard, especially when you bugged out without explaining yourself properly way back when.

Maybe my brain is just wired differently, but i honestly dont see why i should cut off all contact with the guy because he does / has done bad things, while i can still get a positive out of it and can't get a negative from it.

>>162373

i dunno. the way i look at it is imagine you have a friend that acts like a nice guy, but when you invite him over to your house all he does is hide behind corners and punch you in the throat whenever you come around them; sure, he's nice outside but eventually i'd think that you'd start to not want to talk to them anymore. not that you could after all the throatpunching

Maybe this was a sign that Halloween is meant to be spent having fun and socializing, not posting on ponychan.

>>162374
See, if said friend had knowledge or a skill i needed, i'd still talk to them over the phone or wear a throatguard, because even though they may hate throats they're still good at something i'm not or know something i dont.

>>162375
>socializing

>>162376
>friend
lol what. and, pretty sure there are people good at things you can go to who aren't
1) confirmed sociopaths
2) people who literally faked their internet suicide to sucker you and turned you into complete dupes
3) literally tried to bribe someone with access to your site's internals
4) attempted to hack into your (and other) sites
5) kept detailed records of you and your info for the purpose of furthering manipulation of you
6) pretended to be e-fucking a staff member for purpose of having an inside source
7) suckered/duped you again with a completely new identity
8) when caught, their defense was "no it's okay, I just keylogged and hacked the person, it wasn't really them" (because keylogging someone and stealing their account is somehow less atrocious than the alternative)
9) had done this kind of thing to other communities totally unrelated to ponies in the past and completely ran them into the ground
10) to this day continues to mock any semblance of authority you think you have by still ban evading (and you know it for a fact, and simply don't ban the new IPs because it's better in your estimation to 'keep an eye on him', which essentially means you know you're powerless to actually stop him and he knows it too.)
It isn't even.. like I can't even.. This isn't wow kind of a jerk but has some good advice or info, this is an actual dyed in the wool dangerous/insane sociopath who you full well know already has secondary personas here and now and to this day undoubtedly continues to maintain some kind of plans or ideas for how to yet again make you and everyone else look like a complete fucking chump for the umpteenth time and I don't even know how we got on this topic from the simple subject we started out on, but I guess this is the biggest disappointment I could have imagined from you and I'm not gonna bother looking out for the guy or the place and not be surprised when something incredibly stupid happens down the road
peace niggas

Last edited at Sat, Nov 1st, 2014 18:32

>>162377
Can you name 5?

>>162378
People who are good at things? Well, yes, a near infinite number. People who are good specifically at coding things? Zeke, Shutterbox (Guard Anon, pchanX maintainer), doc lee, bb, script kitty, there's 5 I guess. have another drink, it's saturday. i'm going back to game. orcs won't behead themselves. or maybe they will.

>>162377
>10) to this day continues to mock any semblance of authority you think you have by still ban evading (and you know it for a fact, and simply don't ban the new IPs because it's better in your estimation to 'keep an eye on him', which essentially means you know you're powerless to actually stop him and he knows it too.)

Stopped doing that a while ago man.

And christ, do you guys think i talk to him on a regular basis or something?
It's always me intiating the conversations and all i do is ask him about code shit because he knows about code shit.
I also ask zeke, macil, inkwell, orange, mithent and even BB once about code shit.
I ask whoever is available that would likely be able to help me with whatever problem i have, and i know enough to realize if a bit of code will do something i dont want or understand.

It's not like i ever talk about why i'm doing whatever or giving him any sort of information that he couldn't get much easier and faster from other sources.
Hell, the shit i asked him about last night was concerning ponychan code from 2011, which i figured he still had a copy of.
It's the shit i asked about in that skype chat, it's not exactly something he could use to do something incredibly stupid.
For the record, they were unix timestamp's.

He then told me i should have made the halloween shit optional and gave me a vague answer that i'm going to ask zeke, orange or inkwell about when any of them come online.

TLDR: Calm your tits, i'm not doing anything that could blow up in my face or could damage the site.

>>162380
>stopped awhile ago
You were doing it within the last 2 months or so since that's when we talked about it, so it's pretty reasonable to have assumed.

>>162381
Yeah, which is why i corrected that when you mentioned it.

>>162365
>>162377
I kinda doubt he's actually keeping files, because I saw mine and it was all dumb simple shit that I had mentioned recently, and it also seemed somewhat designed to appeal to me, so I got the strong impression that it had been written recently and hastily. Pretty sure that was just another weird ploy.

Then again maybe I'm not actually important/interesting/useful enough to him, or maybe it was a fake alternate, who knows.

Last edited at Sat, Nov 1st, 2014 18:59

>>162383
You'd have to ask Moony. I've only seen a few of them and he supposedly has seen a bunch of them.
>>162382
I guess he'll have to go back to proxies, at least.

>>162375

>>162388
I think you are a tad late with that jif.

>>162389
About 4 years or so late.