I think the that in theory, this should make games more flexible and awesome, but you can abuse the fuck out of it for moneys.

>you can now sell mods on Steam
THANKS VALVE

Needs one with a bun that somebody stepped on, and then the good bun labeled "Day 1 Patch"

>>39806893
NOOO!!!!

>>39806886

reason why you should stick with the classics

>>39806950
I dont wanna. Games these days still have more features even when game companies lock parts of the game.

Downloadable content!
Downloadable content!
The game that comes in pieces!

  >>39806886
but you didnt hear the totally trusthy DICE developer?

>>39806893
that's 39 different types of bullshit

They could have just made a feature where you can donate to a modder if you wish.

>>39806957
More features to make them less cohesive.

We're not the only ones expressing distain for the DLC bullshit and microtransactions. The DLC thing is a system that is easy to abuse. As for microtransactions...let's just say keep your prices reletively low or else you'll face an angry mob.

Lemme explain...

How the DLC system should work:
- expansion packs
- bonus characters and content

How the DLC system should not work:
- essential files
- stuff that allows you to continue playing the game

As for microtransactions:
- like I said before, keep your prices low
- whatever is being sold better be fucking worth it
- bundles are not recommended as you might end up getting something you don't want

In short: DLC should just consist of expansion packs and bonus content.
In the meantime, microtransactions can be done right...it's just hard to do right.

In parts of this, I'll admit that I'm probably talking out of my arse. Sometimes I do that.

>>39806886
Pretty much yeah.

It killed the remaining "shits" I had to give about playing video games.

are there games that remove the totally important stuff to make them dlc for later?

Sometimes I just feel like I was born in the wrong generation.

>>39807093

Azura's Wrath made the real ending into DLC

>>39807099
Are you a fan of pink floyd as well?

>>39807108
I wish I could be born in a time without internet, smartphones, and all of these medical and scientific advances just so I could be there when REAL music and video games were being made.

>>39807099
>not working on to make things you want them to be

>>39807099
I do like the time period I live in with all this great technology we have but do I hate modern society.

>>39807139
I can relate to that.

LA Noire had some cases added as DLC, which took place here and there in the main story.
The main story had references to some of these cases, even if you didnt own those specific DLC.
They were not "totally important", Still easy to see that they were cut.
Assassins Creed 2 also had some missions released as paid DLC later, the difference is that they were more important for the story. The developers even said that they had to cut the content because they didnt have time to finish it before they released the game.

>>39806974
The best part of this is that they're promoting a modder that's selling stuff ripped from other franchises.

>>39807231
Yeah, a lot of DOTA 2 stuff... kinda makes sense, since Valve implemented this paid system, and they get like, half of the shares or around that.

I still trust Valve enough to think that they will reverse this or modify it to be a pay what you want model where $0 is always an option (You can pay what you want now, but there is always a minimum).

>>39807231
It's just Valve stuff.

Other franchises are still copyright protected. That won't change.

If you don't like it, then don't buy games like this.
Really. If more people would stop buying games like that, it'll slowly stop. Hopefully

Really though, none of my games are like that.

...Seems to me mid-segment games are way too rare nowadays, they're the ones that pushed AA titles to do better by forming a nice alternative.

Nowadays it seems like there's very little between AA and Indie, resulting in AA having too little to compete with and Indie having too little to look up to.

But that's my personal take on it.

>>39807257
>Really though, none of my games are like that.
*puts down wads of cash

I'll take all of 'em!

>>39807260
no
my games.

>>39807257
See, that's the problem with the free market, people in it are really, really stupid.
People will complain all day how bad DLC's are, but they'll continue buying games that display worst examples of DLC's related behavior.

>>39807264
Eh, true.

>>39807262
Yeah, I want to buy your games.... unless you are making some weird double entendre joke I'm not getting.

Or unless your games are free and you assume i should know that.

>>39807267
By my games I meant games that I own.

I guess I worded that poorly. I meant None of the games that I own are like that. Maybe one or two, but that's it. And for those few that are, the DLC only adds on to an already fairly complete game.

>playing ys for the first time
>the wonder
>the excitement

why is this so rare nowadays

>>39807257
Now that I think about it, its really not that big of a deal.

>>39807296
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh....

The amount of dumbness I feel is overbearing

Mario Kart 8 did DLC preoperly. The amount of tracks and characters in the vanilla game is already a big amount, and the 2 DLC's adds some great scoops of flavor into it.

>>39807298
Ys is an amazing series, that's why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsNzIsBeyjE

>>39807308
Meh...

You know? They stuck to tradition in the amount of original content and somewhere I wish a new entry of Mario Kart could have been more bombastic. Definitely true for Smash bros Wii U.

>>39807365
Then you enter the difficult ground of changing too much or too little.

I think both games did a good job of changing just enough, without being total bombshells. That's safer, and better than running the risk of ruining something.

>>39806893
>paying for mods
RIPRIP gaming, I'm going back to books.

And here I always thought mods did it for free.

>>39806893
the worst part is that valve takes 75% off it.
with out doing anything except being sit down

I'm torn on the issue because, on the one hand, I'm more than okay with paying for high-quality content, but on the other hand, it's Valve. And their quality checking has been pretty shoddy for a while now.

What's wrong with taking a bunch of the best mods, polishing them up a bit, making sure they work properly and then adding them to the game as paid DLC? I'd gladly pay for that. I want to see people rewarded for their work. But this is an awful way to do it.

>endless streams of failed Kickstarters
>flood of garbage Early Access/Greenlight games
>pay for fatalities
>pay for mods
>pay for game modes
>preorder culture
>AAA games that are non-functional at launch, and riddled with bugs
>but still include micro-transactions and day-1 DLC
>EA closing down Maxis
>EA and Activision still existing
Video game crash when?

Last edited at Thu, Apr 23rd, 2015 16:36

>>39807527

ET movie remake and consequent tie-in game when?

>>39807515
>What's wrong with taking a bunch of the best mods, polishing them up a bit, making sure they work properly and then adding them to the game as paid DLC?
There's no quality control. You have 24 hours to get a refund on a paid mod to see if it works, that's your reprieve.

>>39807515
Valve doesn't quality check the mods. Anypony can try and sell their mods on Steam.

>>39807538

Yes. That's the problem. 24 hour refund is fine, but that has two issues as far as I'm concerned: First of all, having to ask for a refund every time a mod is shit. And secondly, how do we know that's gonna stay there? Knowing Valve and what they did to the Steam Market, I'm not terribly confident.

>>39807527
The market seems to eat shit every 20 or 30 years ago. People act like it's the end of video games, and assume every single game does the things that they're complaining about, but it always goes back to normal.

>>39807532
>>39807541
I should make an HD remake of the ET 2600 game and sell it on Steam

We pirating mods now?

>>39807541

But I don't want to pay for my nude loli mods.

>>39807515
There seems to be a scenario where the worst mod supposedly got picked out by the community.

Kind of like in OP, I don't know how the effectual downfall would compare to the dramatic prospective downfall.
As far as I gather, you're not forced to charge for mods.

>>39807546

What's stopping anypony from uploading these paid mods on an external site anyways?

>>39807551
Steam doesn't allow that kind of thing, and I don't think loverslab is gonna try and sell their mods anytime soon.

>>39807556
DRM?

>>39807557

Good thing Nexus has my back, then.

What was that one girl who made dick mods for everything in Oblivion? Her screen name was something related to the Alien franchise. We clearly need her in on this.

>>39807556
For Skyrim? nothing. Even the paid DLCs are just mods and easy as shit to pirate.

If the modder doesn't upload them to Nexus or something else though, you do possibly miss out on support, version control, etc.

>>39807546
>pirating mods
This is madness. Am I not going to be able to put mods on pirated copies of games now?
I told you people. I told all of you.

Piracy is faster, more convenient, offers better customer support in many cases. Even aside from price, it's a much less hassle, less bullshit experience.

>>39807556
Copyright claims, possibly. I'm a bit worried about how this is going to affect Nexus. Are they going to be getting claims from mod authors who want them to be only on Steam?

>>39807568

> it's a much less hassle, less bullshit experience.

That's what used to get people to go to Steam in the first place, myself included.

>>39807568

>>39807571
Entirely depends. A lot of the mod authors I've seen are just offering "pay what you want" or a paid version + free version. It seems like a lot of them are trying to use this as a donation feature rather than actually selling the mods outright.

Wait, I already have a couple of these mods in the bundle they're offering installed, like the Volkihar one. Are they gonna take away muh mods now?

>>39807588

>>39807592
they can't make you do anything. Just don't lose the files, and don't expect any future updates.

>>39807568
Whether its more convenient or not is subjective.

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>>39807597

I don't believe you. Goddamn capitalists comin' to take muh mods. Well, not without a fight I say! I've got OP weapons downloaded! Come and get them, Valve.

Thanks, Gaben!

>>39807588
But of course I'd download a mod.

>>39807600
Try dealing with a non-pirated Ubisoft game and say that with a straight face.

>>39807600
An example would be last time I wanted to stream a movie. I wanted to use my amazon gift card so I could watch in in HD. So I had to sign into amazon, select the hd version. And then after 10 minutes of it checking my plugins, I decided to just watch it on dailymotion. Because watching it for free was far more convenient than using the for pay service.

I could watch it on netflix of course. But can the selection on netflix compare with the selection on pirating and free streaming sites?

At least there's still GOG, right?

>>39807643
I don't know what that is.

>>39807643
>bought on GoG the WBC collection
>i cant play it because it doesnt work properly

that is why i dont like GoG that much, most of the time i cant make stuff work.

>>39807643
I've got my eyes on them, I'm not entirely sure they're as cool as they seem... there's always torrents however.

>>39807643
Unfortunately, you can't get that new Postal 2 expansion "Paradise Lost" on GOG. You can get it Steam on though. It costs about eight bucks...although you might have to get the base game first.

>>39807645
Gamer On Gamer, a neckbeard porn production house.

Video games are fine. Y'all probably just play shitty ones.

>>39807703
We are complaining about Skyrim, so I guess you're right.

>>39807703
>Implying video games are fun.

>>39807703
Yeah, they probably do have shit taste.

>>39807712
I still have fun playing my games though so Im not playing any games that are shitty.

>>39807703
Video games are deeeeaaaaad!!!

>>39807738

> Video gamers

FTFY

>>39807743
> Video gamers
Do people actually use that term? Wasn't that like from 50 years ago back in the 90s?

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In theory, I love DLC; things like Borderlands DLC campaigns are a great example. Its stuff that they couldn't finish in time, but is a nice bonus, yeah? Extra stuff like that.

Or things like how you can buy cosmetics in TF2, or how you can buy new characters. THAT'S great.




You know what's shit? Things like On disc DLC. THAT is fucking wrong. that is so fucking wrong. DLC should, in principal. be for things that you think are awesome but didn't have time to make for the game. Stuff that you want to be in the game, but you don't have time "right now" to make, but might in the future be able to add them on.

Things that are 100% complete and ready to ship? that's fucking bullshit. So much bullshit.

EA needs to burn in a fire, I hate them so goddamned much.