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36783356 No. 36783356 [View]
What do I mean by "polymorphic?" Well, not so much Pinkie Pie's stretching about, albeit that is an incredible mystery of cartoon physics in and of itself. No, I'm speaking of situations like:

* Discord "turning" the mane six in Return To Harmony resulting in them losing most of their color.
* The mane six assuming the appearance of crystal ponies after the crystal heart was activated in Crystal Empire.
* The mane six becoming breezies in It Ain't Easy Being Breezies - maybe a more mundane straight up polymorphic spell. It certainly says something of the influence of Dungeons and Dragons when polymorphing is regarded as an easily-explained magical phenomenon.
* The mane six's transformation after being affected by the contents of the box in Twilight's Kingdom, Pt 2.
* Nightmare Moon and Sombre both becoming shape-shifting monsters.

And there are probably other examples to be found. The question I'm putting forward is this: Are ponies such magical creatures that their appearance is actually mutable by emotions, or is this merely stagecraft to communicate ideas to the viewer?

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>> No. 36784186
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  >>36784184

screw that man, Magic spells that you shoot out of guns is cooler.

Also buff catgirls.
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>>36784175
>MIA FACCIA QUANDO Outlaw Star reference out of nowhere.
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I'm glad you asked, little filly. The truth is that ponies' appearance is not mutable by emotions, nor is it merely stagecraft to communicate ideas to the viewer.

To find out what it is then, we have to look at the similarities between the aforementioned situations. I'll look at them one by one.

When the ponies lost their color in Return of Harmony, this wasn't due to any mere emotion or fleeting feeling. This was due to the complete and utter disappearance of that pony's element within the pony. This is different from the pony being sad or angry throughout the course of the day, and is far more akin to, in modern psychology, various mental disorders of the day, including depression - or in spiritual terms, it would be the hell state.

Judging by the fact that this is the first time we see this draining of color or anything similar in the Equestrian universe, there are some interesting facts we can derive, such as that while Equestria is obviously not perfect, it does lack the mental disorders that plague modern society to such an extent, that when a pony descends into that state, it is a serious thing indeed, requiring direct action from the Princess of Equestria, but I digress.

A counter-argument to this hypothesis may be cranky, in that he was chronically unhappy, but there is an explanation for this. Cranky never understood the magic of friendship, and as such, was unable to experience the total loss of the elements of harmony like the mane 6 did. This hypothesis, however, does call into question my previous hypothesis that Equestria was indeed a happy place lacking disorders such as depression, but I digress.

The second point of OP is that the mane 6 changed during the crystal heart thing, which better supports OP's polymorphic theory, though can be explained in that the crystal heart was powered by a lot of love and unity, which I would still say is different from emotions triggering it, in that the love and unity felt by the crystal ponies elevated them to a new level of consciousness - not just a temporary feeling. Again, they experienced thousands of years of apathy - this crystal coat appeared as a result of the sudden


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36784126 No. 36784126 Autosaged [View]
So as a lot of you kept telling me, Twilight did not win the fight against Tirek at all. Instead, he held her friends hostage for her alicorn magic, and she willingly surrendered it to save them. In the process, it taught both Twilight and Discord a valuable life lesson that resulted in the former earning her final key:

The power to blow up an entire planet, bring an entire species to extinction, or causing some other form of the apocalypse means absolutely nothing, compared to love, friendship, compassion, and teamwork.

It's just that I have to wonder if bronies actually cared about that moral, which led to all of the Mane Six using Rainbow Power to defeat Tirek and restore everypony's magic, while earning Twilight, their leader, a new castle to replace the remains of her library. As you can tell from that Timsplosion comic I posted here, it makes it look like that bronies didn't care about that whole "friendship beats absolute power" message that made the S4 finale what it actually was, just for that one fight scene and Twilight's "Super Saiyan bad-assery" alone.

In other words, what do bronies want out of MLP? The magic of friendship that they were given in the finale's moral, plus the first five key episodes and the Elements of Harmony they each represented? Or stupid displays of absolute, apocalyptic (dumbpocalyptic?) power normally reserved for Dragon Ball Z, Naruto, and Bleach?

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>> No. 36784245
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>>36784244
I too was so tired after Season 2, during Season 3 and after MMC of all bullshit thrown at things and episodes I adore.

I admit that I can understand all your pain, because I don't have had the Reflection moment, at least not yet.

If I might give you one advice, it's this: If you encounter more Celestia hate, stop reading and move on. I'm 100% sure that you won't learn anything new from those posts, but you will save your nerves. Just like OP, there's never anything new or interesting in that kind of posts. Just move on and learn to enjoy your life again. Ponies shouldn't be serious enough to control your whole emotional life.

And remember this: Brains are stupid. So stupid that if you force yourself to smile, your brains think you're happy, because smiling means you're happy. So smile, even if you don't feel like smiling! When you watch pony episodes, smile all the time, and the episodes magically feels better (at least it works for me).
>> No. 36784246
>>36784245
You seem to underestimate how much other people's opinions can influentiate me. A lifetime of social parity can make you very vulnerable to other people challenging your views, specially if you have no way to properly defend your stance.

And thing is, ponies don't control my emotional life, I am in full control of myself and I could cut loose anytime I want, I just don't want to, I just want for Celestia to be good, please, for the love of God, just once, just so that I can prove to myself that I am not a complete fucking moron.
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I watch the show because the opening seconds of the very first episode told me about an age-old battle between primordial powers of light & darkness with paintings.
That's all. I knew how to make friends & be a nice person before MLP, that's not the appeal for me. It's the fact that it's a show marketed to little girls that nonetheless takes itself seriously with monsters and battles and sprawling fantasy lore, instead of assuming "little girls" is code for "prissy retards who won't be able to process any situations more complex than tea parties and makeovers". It constantly expands on its internal mythology instead of mollycoddling its audience. That's all I want and have ever wanted since I got on the ride.
So no. I'm not going to lament the fact that all the wickle kiddies ears & eyes weren't covered up, to protect their fragile innocence from the HORRORS of a impassioned action scene. Perish the thought that our Suzy actually LIKE any of it! Quick, put a Tweenies tape on!

What would you have wanted instead, anyway? They just blast him with a rainbow, crisis over job done, like they've done before? Because that would be lazy, insipid, uninspired, and everything else I like MLP for NOT being. It sounds like you just hate anime on principle and are offended that a show you like reminded you of it. Even though, y'know, it's been borrowing from anime influences since Faust wrote episode 1.
Besides, they're never going to do a purer 'bad guy gets BTFO by friendship' scene than Canterlot Wedding. Might as well break out the SFX.


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36778801 No. 36778801 [View] [Last 50 posts]
Here is a thread so people talk about the movie which just come in 2 days.
Hurry up, flood it.
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>> No. 36783885
>>36783882
You want to compare a series that was written by multiple people leading to instance of characters acting in a multitude of different ways (We can do an entire thread on whether or not Pinkie Pie was acting In Character for each episode), that explore the setting in different way, that have the characters interact with each other in different ways, which have the action and events play out in different ways. You want to compare that to a movie with one writers with one vision?

Don't you think that's rather odd?
>> No. 36783889
>Don't you think that's rather odd?

No. Especially not when the "one creative vision" (which is an exaggeration to say the least) in EqG is also a major creative authority in FiM.
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>>36783885
>instance of characters acting in a multitude of different ways

You talk as if every single episode has the characters acting completely different.

>that explore the setting in different way
>that have the characters interact with each other in different ways
>which have the action and events play out in different ways

These have nothing to do with the writing quality.

Under this logic, you cannot compare one episode of FIM with another episode, because the characters interact differently and the events play out differently? No, that's stupid.


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36782610 No. 36782610 [View] [Last 50 posts]
“At the start of this project, I simply wanted to explore why a show for boys with female fans called ‘Young Justice’ was cancelled, while a show for girls with male fans, ‘My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic,’ has become a huge cultural phenomenon, with followers known as Bronies,” said (Eastern Florida State College student Kassandra Tramel, giving a talk at a learned conference). “My explanation for the Brony phenomenon is complex, but the short of it is that men have more cultural power within our society, even in regards to narratives targeted to completely different demographics.”

Does anybody have any idea what this means? Does it mean, "Boys can get away with liking anything, even MLP, because they're boys and boys run the culture"? Does it mean, "Network execs cancel any show that doesn't have a mainly male audience"? The producer of 'Young Justice,' Paul Dini, claims that "... the reasoning behind the cancellation is that the show was more popular among teenage girls instead of the targeted demographic, teenage boys" (Wikipedia). Does this make any sense? Would Hasbro cancel MLP because it was more popular among girls than among boys? Or more popular among boys than girls? Is Dini crazy? Is Tramel crazy? Is CN crazy? Am I crazy? Would you like some more oatmeal, Sir Lints-a-Lot?

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>> No. 36783726
>>36783712

LPS hasn't been canceled yet, not to Dee's knowledge, it's just on hiatus, we still have at least one unaired episode of season 3.
>> No. 36783727
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>>36783726
More like half of season 3 still needs to be aired. And it seems like the crew is working on season 4 right now.
>> No. 36783729
>>36783727

Yeah, Dee was looking at the list of episodes on Wikipedia and it only shows one unaired episode, but Dee thought that would be really weird to go on hiatus and return with only one episode left to air, at least for any show whose network isn't actively trying to kill it, fucking Disney.


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...which pony?

Which pony you think is best in her supporting roles? I've been thinking this, because of Twilight and Applejack. For me, almost every time when episode is about Twilight, she's good and so is the episode no need to comment, if you disagree with me, but when she's in supporting role she's not as great. For Applejack it's upsides down: I find most of her episodes meh, but her supporting roles are great again, no need to comment if you disagree.

For example:
Great Twilight episodes like Winter Wrap Up, Lesson Zero, Magic Duel and Testing, Testing, 1, 2, 3
Twilight is the mane character.

Less good Twilight moments in episodes:
Fall Weather Friends, Hearth's Warming Eve, Wonderbolts Academy, Power Ponies
Twilight is in supporting role
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>> No. 36783395
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i feel like Fluttershy and Rarity always add joy to any episode they are a part...

So does Twilight. i sort of enjoy Twilight's cameos in each episode.
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Applejack, of course. That is, like, the whole reason I like her the most.
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>>36783398
I'm an AJ fan too.


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36781817 No. 36781817 [View] [Last 50 posts]
I feel like I'm one of the few who geek the hell out about anything pony related. It's been a while (since the end of Season 4) that I've actually been excited about anything really. Although I love Ponies in Pony form, I still enjoyed this movie. I'm also a sucker for music, since it is a huge part of my life. I'd prefer that all the negativity stay out of this thread, but hell, I can't control you guys. If you have something you liked about the movie please feel free to share it.

Mine is and always will be: Rarity
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>> No. 36782987
>>36782985
Not to mention taking a bullet to the brainpan and living somehow gave him "savior of the wastes" level heroic fortitude.

>>36782986
Maybe the Legion's success has less to do with Roman tactics being perfect to tame the wastes, and more to do with the average NCR soldier having all the martial skill of a toddler.
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>>36782986
>Sadly, given how your Average NCR trooper cannot deal with a Drug addict with a golf club charging him from over 30 yards away, this is in fact correct.
To be fair those golf clubs are probably more effective weapons than those guns they give the average NCR.
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>>36781817
Hey, I love Rarity too and I'm a sucker for music too.


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36782451 No. 36782451 [View]
Okay folks up next we have Season 1 Episode 26, The Best Night Ever, Written by: Amy Keating Rogers.

The link to the episode: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xwp7iw_mlp-fim-s1-e26-the-best-night-ever-hd-no-watermarks_shortfilms

Watch this episode again, comment as you do. What did you like/dislike, anything you missed before? Or just general discussion about every little aspect of this episode.

LETS WATCH THIS CLASSIC AGAIN AND HAVE FUN!!
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>> No. 36782786
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BNE was one of my favorites. I think it was the perfect cap to season one, and added more charm and style to the show than a villain blasting finale would. This would have worked fine as the ending to the entire series if it hadn't been renewed.

Good song, we got to see them all wearing their cute gala outfits, and an entertaining plot as reality comes crashing down around the fantasies of the mane six. I loved seeing a bit of Celestia being bored by regal protocol. Also, the birth of Octavia.

10/10 would watch again
>> No. 36782787
I liked this episode, my favorite part was Celestia appearing amidst a bunch of other things that weren't really important.
>> No. 36783716
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>>36782519
I love Flutterhulk too.

Great way to end S1 by the way.


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36782957 No. 36782957 [View] [Last 50 posts]
Okay folks up next we have Season 2 Episode 1-2, The Return Of Harmony, Written by: M.A. Larson.

The link to the episode: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xwpjtm_mlp-fim-s2-e1-e2-the-return-of-harmony-hd-no-watermarks_shortfilms

Watch this episode again, comment as you do. What did you like/dislike, anything you missed before? Or just general discussion about every little aspect of this episode.

LETS WATCH THIS CLASSIC AGAIN AND HAVE FUN!!

One season down, at least 4 more to go before this run is done, expect a break mid season for season 5.
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>> No. 36783540
>>36783412
>budget plans?

LUNA NEEDS BRACES
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>>36783540

that's actually kind of funny given how often artists do "teenage/kid" luna with braces to fit the "less popular/Ugly younger sister" stereotype.

>>36783412

Man I love RDP XD
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One of the best adventure eps.


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36783453 No. 36783453 [View]
Okay folks up next we have Season 2 Episode 3, Lesson Zero, Written by: Meghan McCarthy.

The link to the episode: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xwpn2z_mlp-fim-s2-e3-lesson-zero-hd-no-watermarks_shortfilms

Watch this episode again, comment as you do. What did you like/dislike, anything you missed before? Or just general discussion about every little aspect of this episode.

LETS WATCH THIS CLASSIC AGAIN AND HAVE FUN!!
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>>36783675
>>36783676


Rarar Master unicorn!
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Since Twi's apotheosis, harpypone is best unicorn.
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Brings some memories of being new to the show there.


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36783361 No. 36783361 [View]
Can we Recap the "so many feels" moments for Rainbow Dash?


I can only think on "Flight to the finish"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6wqwZjTofo
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>>36783403

I will admit that comic is paranoia fuel for his constant benevolent attitude the rest of the time.
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>>36783403
>>36783404

Fighter only pretends to be stupid and kind in order to spread chaos and destruction via Black Mage, whose intelligence is inversely proportionate to his proximity to White Mage and his anger. Thus by keeping Black Mage perpetually enraged he keeps Black Mage too stupid to realise he could use his immense power for good and thus win the heart of White Mage as well.
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I gets the feels every time I see Rainbow Dash... usually about how much of a full-of-herself blowhard she is.


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I've been thinking.
When looking at Rarity I notice two trends: she wants to get social acceptance BUT she has also displayed great agency in her own life by improving her station BUT she still tends to go along with what those she wants to please expect of her.
BUT this is necessary for a classy lady who is generous since caring about the expectations of others is inseparable from that.

And what of the others? They go along with what others want too. Twilight with Celestia, Dash with fans, Fluttershy with...everyone, Pinkie with pinyvillians liking her, and AJ with her farm and ponyville as well.

So I think the issue of conformity comes down to how much agency the ponies exercise over their lives, when it is practical for them to do so.

Any thoughts?
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>>36782814
>>36782813

Fair enough, comrades. I can definitely see a case being made for Fluttershy's applied character development in Season 4. Rainbow Falls only redeeming trait was the fact that Fluttershy was stepping our her shadow to even compete in the Equestria Games. My counterpoint to that, however, can be presented as a twofold.

They're still going way too slow with Fluttershy for my liking. Granted, Fluttershy should never be anywhere near Rainbow Dash levels of boldness, one of the big issues I have with Flutters characterization over the past couple years, is that when they regress her for the sake of a story, they regress her hard. Trade Ya was a horrible episode for her, because she allowed Dash to basically bully her the entire episode. Yes, it did allow Dash for a moment of clarity, though it still wasn't a good look for Fluttershy, who should've at least stood up for herself more.

It goes back to the "baby steps" line in Filli Vanilli. Baby steps only works if she takes bigger strides each time going out. Personally I want to see Fluttershy episodes dealing with more complex hangups when it comes being shy, like taking over leadership when she needs to, or even standing up for someone who was similarily shy to herself. If Season 5 allows her to go beyond the basics, then it'll be a good thing for the character.

>>36782818
You know what? When I sit down and think about the actual topic, I personally think that FiM is at an impasse in how it deals with conformity vs. individuality. Personally, I think the first 2 seasons dealt with this conflict extremely well. Sonic Rainboom is a perfect example of this in my eyes. Rarity voluntee
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>>36782835
>>36782835

>fluttershy required to fight her Shyness for a leadership position.


The best way to do that would be to have a situation like winter wrap up where ponies are having to work together to help or take care of animals in a given situation.

due to her expertise with animals, fluttershy SHOULD be the most qualified for taking control of such a situation to help out the animals. However, she would never willingly take on a leadership position due to her shyness.


So a logical way to spin her shyness as something she would work to overcome would be her avoiding taking any assertive steps during such a scenario and trying to allow another pony to handle overseeing such a scenario.
>> No. 36783028
OP here, I totally forgot about this thread.

For Fluttershy's character development: it is there but not really what I would call good growth since it is literally the one thing just less of it.


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36782929 No. 36782929 [View]
I didnt knew Gilda got her own doll.
And she even have a jacket to symbolice her feathers
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>>36782930
Nah, it is a coincidence.
This Gilda girl have being in the back ground since the start of the webidodes
Is just a coincidence that is name Gilda.
And it is a joke because for what I know there is a Gilda in EqG

She is Ceryneian Hind's Daughter

And it was meant to be on OAT

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>> No. 36782958
A mod could use god sex Apeal and move this to OAT
>> No. 36782961
>>36782958
i guess not.


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36782689 No. 36782689 [View]
So, KidExpo has come and gone (apparently it was Oct 23-27), and no announcement of "Equestria Academy" was made. (as far as I can tell)

There was a lot of evidence pointing towards it being something new (such as the words "new animated series" and the Rainbow Rocks logo being on the page, despite people claiming that "EQA" was just the french RR) but there was no announcement at KidExpo, like the article said there would be.

Safe to say it doesn't exist, at this point?
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>> No. 36782752
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What if it was referring to the series of shorts that were made to follow up the first movie instead of the second movie?
>> No. 36782754
So Equestria Daily is reporting from Toymag (something I had never heard of until EQD reported on it) that Hasbro is planning on an EQG animated series.

This sounds more like "A friend of a friend of a friend of mine knows Gabe Newell personally and he said that she said that he said that he said Half-Life 3 will have ponies in it."

Just saying, until official statements from Hasbro, I'm kind of doubting an animated series for EQG and they'll just stick with YouTube shorts and a yearly movie release.
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>>36782752
The series of shorts would make sense, and it would be easy to confuse Toymag with that.

>>36782754
Pretty much. Granted, EqD actually e-mailed Toymag for clarification and got it, so at least some effort has been taken to try to confirm it.

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