>>36792381
>>36792381

They're utterly useless for anything but fluttering around though, Rarity's stage presence aside, which is one of the most prized aspects of flight.

This episode has gone along way towards fans of the show viewing butterfly wings as a joke. Even if it was not the intention of the script, the episode still had a negative effect on how people view them.

>>36792390
>They're utterly useless for anything but fluttering around though, Rarity's stage presence aside, which is one of the most prized aspects of flight.
They work. They made Rarity fly rather well, and it seemed like she had at least average speed. She wasn't zooming all around, but Rarity would more likely show off grace than speed anyway, and it's not like she was Bulk Biceps slow.

>Even if it was not the intention of the script, the episode still had a negative effect on how people view them.
The episode not giving a good representation even if it wasn't the intention is different from
>the show staff actively mocked certain toys in their episodes
the same way how even though people made jokes about the ridiculousness of EqG what with going from magical ponies to high school, and using a popularity contest or battle of the bands contest to help determine the fate of the world, I don't think it was the writer's intent to mock the idea of the premise.

It's reasonable to expect good creator-driven kidtoons from Disney and Cartoon Network, but Hasbro? Maybe not so much, even if people like Lauren Faust were originally involved.

>>36792458
>Cartoon Network

COUGH.

  >>36792460
At least I didn't say Nickelodeon.

>>36792460
What's wrong with Steven Universe?

>>36792469
Other than a shitty fandom?

>>36792470
All fandoms have bad parts. You shouldn't judge the entire fandom about what some subsections did.

>>36792471
Have you seem the shitfit that they threw when the runner of Equestria Daily decided to make a Steven Universe sister site? They all fucking dogpilled him and threw a tantrum like fucking babies because "BRONIES WERE COMING TO TAKE OUR SHOW AND POLLUTE IT WITH PORN!", until the guy decided not to.

Congratulations shitheads, you screwed yourselves out of a fan site because of your irrational hatred of another fandom, morons.

>>36792474
◔_◔

http://sun.dərpynews.com/

>>36792474
Again, aren't you just judging the whole fandom based on subsections? Yeah, there's people in the SU fandom who don't want to associate with us, that doesn't mean every single fan is like that. I don't think you consider this fandom to be shitty just because we have people like Yamino who call Dərpy ableist or Dragondicks who makes fun of male fans.

>>36792476
First Impressions count for a lot.

And Dragondicks isn't a fan, he's fucking pondscum.

>>36792477
>First Impressions count for a lot.
Did you ever try to interact with the SU fandom beforehand, or did you only notice them after over a year since the show started because some fans were targeting the MLP fandom? Because the latter is like someone who's never interacted with Muslims before judging that they must be a violent criminal religion because their first impression came from hearing about al-Qaeda causing 9/11 attacks.

>>36792477
The show is good. so ignore the fandom if you please, and at best, get some art from places.

but stuff like fanfic and stuff, is kidn of dumb.

specially because the show do alot to flesh out their characters, to the point where making fanfics would be like lying to themselves.

>>36792469
Not everything from CN is bad, like Kids next door and Billy and mandy. But there have been many, many absolutely horrid shows from them in recent years that I have lost respect for them as being able to churn out high quality production consistently.


I'm not saying there's NO gems in it, just alot of their products have been terrible as of late.


>>36792461
I actually would put Nick above CN, believe it or not. They at least have TMNT.

>>36792480

>I'm not saying there's NO gems in it

They've got Steven Universe! And... um... They've got Steven Universe!

>>36792483
Wait, didn't you hate that show?

  >>36792486

Nah, Dee loves Steven Universe, it's the one thing Cartoon Network has outside of Toonami that Dee genuinely loves. Just look at this epic rap battle!

>>36792486
remember that Dee hates Adventure time.

>>36792489

And Regular Show. And Uncle Grandpa. And Clarence. Not Gumball, though, it's nowhere near good enough for Dee to say he loves it, but the mother and sister are enjoyable characters. Would be a better show if it were about them.

>>36792490
You just hate all shows that are good.

>>36792490
There wasnt a reduce 13 episode show about "over a wall" or something like that?

>>36792491
i didnt knew you where such a Uncle Grandpa fan.

>>36792491

If by good you mean loud, obnoxious, and randumb, then yes, yes Dee does.

>>36792493
No, but I am a South Park fan.

Which he hates.

>>36792495
Mister 441, South Park isnt a Cartoon Network show.

So it doesnt fit in this judgment of Dee vs CN shows.

now, for your crime, take a really creepy picture.

>>36792496
I think our definitions of creepy don't exactly align.

>>36792498
You like matching mother-son outfits, then?

>>36792498
well. i just said creepy because the normal world normal standards

>>36792499
I'd rather not talk about what I do in my spare time amongst polite company.

  >>36792501
>polite company

I'm fucking American, I'm not fucking polite!

  >>36792488
>Dee loves Steven Universe

>>36792489
>Dee hates...
>>36792490
>Uncle Grandpa

But what happens when the two mix?

>>36792534
Wonder what is the motivation behind that cross over.
Where is the logic

>>36792549
Some executives and showrunners had a pot session

>>36792549
>>36792549
Teen Titans Go gets crossovers with Young Justice and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Why not have other shows crossover with each other?

>>36792551
That TMNT thing looks purely like a parody, made without the consent of Nickelodeon

>>36792553
Yeah, the part about TMNT being considered a crossover was a joke. It is an obvious parody (Cyborg even complained that booyakasha sounds too much like his catch phrase), though it was nice touch having Greg Cipes and Rob Paulsen play their respective 2012 turtle selves.

>>36792554
>>36792534
This mean SU is cannon in UG universe, or the other way around

>>36792561
Believe what you want to

>>36792563
Believe in Steven.

>>36792563
Cannon isnt about Bealiving on what you want.

is about Scientific facts.

That is why we have Scientist like Marimo, having a supreme record about everything on the show.

  >>36792567
Every Cartoon Network show shares the same universe.

  >>36792569
on commercial breaks sure.
during episodes...

is harder.

but i remember there was a KND and billy and mandy cross over.

So i guess that is the same kind of cross over here.

one dont have anything to do with the other, and they mix just because, or because the crack and pot parties they have.

>>36792554

I still resent booyakasha replacing Cowabunga. Even if Cowabunga would be feel dated.
Hell, that was the ONE thing about the crappy 2014 movie I liked was the cowabunga line at the end, since they managed to actually make it work without sounding ridiculous.


Ah well. Mikey's the weakest of the 4 turtles this go around anyways.

>>36792578
According to an interview with an executive producer, it wasn't exactly changed because cowabunga was dated. There were talks about if cowabunga should be changed or not and what would it be if it even was changed, so it sounds more like they were considering whether or not to reinvent Mikey's catchphrase in the same sense all shows and such being rebooted have their elements evaluated to see what should be kept and what should be reimagined. Mikey's VA just said "booyakasha" during one recording that had some execs there, they liked it and it just caught on, and so they ended up keeping it.

>>36792583
the more catch phrases your show have the better, now you hear cawabonga and booyakasha, you know this 2 are ninja turtle related.

Yeah, here's the thing: All those shows are commercial. All of them were produced to be merchandised. That's how the entire industry works.

MLP is different, though, in the sense that it already had a toyline before the series began; on the other hand, all these other shows were produced in the hope that they would become popular enough to get their own toylines. It's the same model, but backwards.

There's no reason why you can't tell a good story AND be commercial. Pretty much all popular entertainment is built on doing both.

Steven Universe, for instance, is getting a bunch of merchandise this year, and already has some tshirts and comics out.

>>36792655
but at least doing it backwards is easier.

sure, everything on the universe is done just to sell stuff.

But when i see Steven getting his mothers room is because they have a plan or just want to show it, not because we need a playset.

While i see the giant crystal castle of twilight, i know is there just because you need a giant playset, the same to why twilight is a princess, just because the toys.

To me it start looking like the Merch drive the show, instead of the other way around, and i could try to give the benefit of the doubt, but Equestria Girls pretty much showed me that there is no priority on the show over plastic.

maybe on steven universe and gravity falls they will start changing stuff if they want to sell some toys... (even that is unprobable because most of the toys are done under a license instead of being the studios prodicing them)
and they are not going to throw stuff in the show because they are selling Tshirts.

but with hasbro, it started with that since day one, and then it take more priority.

they could pretend they have plans for alot of the stuff comming. but in reality to me it feels like they have to sell all thouse playsets, and they have to look for excuses to justify the toys.

I dont know if i can explain why doing the process backwards is a huge difference.

Last edited at Sun, Mar 29th, 2015 22:21

>>36792656
and i dont want to sound anti products....
but when is more important than the story or the message...
is harder to get exited about stuff when i know the only reason it exist is because toys and nothing else.

>>36792655
The main difference is MLP was conceived as a toy brand from the start, while Steven Universe began life as a creator-driven TV concept.