>>36792672
Oh goodie, at least Unlikeable is going to like this issue while I grit my teeth in sheer agony.

>>36792671
there is a page missing, or the jumped what ever could symbolice that sombra live a tragedy or something?

>>36792672
oh and by the way, so now crystal ponies can exist on any shape or form?

to have your crystal pony.

She probably will be that crystal princess, so when she grow up, she will look identical to cadence with out the wings.

>>36792686
>oh and by the way, so now crystal ponies can exist on any shape or form?
They've already shown crystal pegasi and unicorns mixed in with the crowd before, and Rogers said that the crystal princess, Amore, was a crystal unicorn.

>She probably will be that crystal princess, so when she grow up, she will look identical to cadence with out the wings.
That was Amore, not Radiant Hope, and Hope is purple with a light blue mane while Cadence is pink with a mane made up of red, violet, and pale gold.

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>>36792684

To be honest, I kind of like it so far. Actually kind of looking forward to it now.


>>36792667

Silly sombra, don't you know not to touch the objects of pure light when you've turned yourself into one of darkness?

>>36792671
>>36792672


Goddamn, them Crystal ponies are racist pricks. HE'S A NORMAL UNICORN WITHOUT A CUTIE MARK.
That's not exotic; that's like meeting a european person without a college degree and saying you don't know what species they are.



Anyways, to be honest here... I'm actually rather looking forward to this sombra issue now. The artworks great so far (next to price whitley is my favorite artist, BAR NONE), and I kind of like how things have gone.

The orphanage owner is nice, and I like Sombra's friend. She reminds me somewhat of Luna lovegood from harry potter.
I doubt it will happen, but it'd be kind of neat if it turned out she really COULD see invisible "fairies", they were just something different than fairies.



That being said, I'm wondering if they're going to introduce another being that will end up corrupting sombra. Not seeing a catalyst into him becoming a major threat without someone to teach him dark magic. I can see where his Evil will come from due to being ostracized, but not where he'll get his skills in dark magic from.


>>36792677

That being said, Ironically enough, I'm not looking forward to the Tirek one.
Funny, huh? I Liked Tirek as a villain and hated sombra, but I feel the opposite about their story comics.



Tirek is, at his core, a Generic Doomsday villain. He's there to show up and wreck shit out of malice and evil, and act as an obstacle for the heroes.
He's not there for his backstory like Nightmare moon, he's a spectacle villain, like Doomsday.


as such, I don't CARE about his backstory. Sure, he's got his brother Scorpan, but that's not really grade A material here. And the comic's not really making it much better.
Tirek's coming off as just some young punk with an annoying as hell younger brother, and I don't see any real depth here to him beyond him being a douche and getting douchier. Maybe he kills his master or something later on to show him being "really" evil, but I honestly wouldn't care.



Maybe they might set him up as having the one standard of "look out for my brother" as an overprotective brother so that he's feel super betrayed at his brother turning on him when that was the one thing he'd never do, but that's about all I can see coming from this comic.

>>36792688
>Silly sombra, don't you know not to touch the objects of pure light when you've turned yourself into one of darkness?
He still managed to get that crystal heart somehow.

Thinking about it, the idea that he was a citizen of the Crystal Empire to begin with does better explain how he could know about and get access to the crystal heart. And even if he had darkness in his heart that repelled him away from the heart while it was running, and it being able to defend itself when working kind of explains why they're fine with leaving it out in the middle of the Empire, he could always use someone with a good heart and trusts him to steal it for him without knowing his actual motives.

>next to price whitley is my favorite artist, BAR NONE
Hickey's the artist, Whitley's the writer.

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>>36792689

>he could always use someone with a good heart

so he will manipulate her childhood friend to do it.
thats ok. i guess

>>36792689
>>36792689

Eh, bleh, yeah reverse that, hickey. Either way, really enjoy her art. Its a good fit for this one since she's always seemed to have depicted emotions very well in her comics (Pinkie's facial expressions in the Twi/PP FF were really good for example), and she's doing a pretty good job making the reader connect with sombra in this one. Since this comic seems to be setup to make you pity sombra's backstory, its a good choice.

>he could always use someone with a good heart and trusts him to steal it for him without knowing his actual motives.


Whelp, there's probably Hope's purpose in the plot right there. Kind of feel bad for her though since she's probably doomed by canon here.
Even if they set things up so she's just imprisoned by sombra (Maybe with Twilight and cadence freeing her after reading the journal), it'd be a pretty sad ending for her with her childhood friend Dead (and evil)

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So far the Sombra comic look fine...

And count that I mostly don't care about the comics and always underestimate them.

But there you will have your "love story"
Where sombra says "rule the empire before hoes"

So that way everybody will be like "what a tragic and sad story of love," and cadence talk about love or somthing.

That's it if everything goes well, they can always go full retard and pull of some reflection BS... But the writer is completely different so sure will be fine.

>>36792693

I don't think its supposed to be a romantic relationship, just a friendship.
I doubt Sombra is going to be like "She was my one true love in the world that I wanted to have Somblets with, and I sacrifice her for evil!"



Rather I think its more going to be that he's going to end up having a situation where he chooses between the concept of friends and wanting to belong and his hatred and desire for revenge. I don't think his premise here will be that he wants to rule; Rather he will want to rule because it lets him turn the tables on ponies who thought THEY were better than him and tormented him.
This won't be reflections 2.0

>>36792696
well, like i say, i always underestimate the comics.

that is why im playing the easier and lazies of scenarios.

>>36792697

It's rare that I get a good feeling from the comics lately; this one is striking a similiar chord to how I felt about the pinkie/Twi, AJ/mayor & Trixie/Rd ones.
its nice to have a comic I can be excited about. Or at least one that I can be excited about past the preview stage (FUCK, I was intrigued by the basic info about the revenge of the everfree comic before it was revealed to be stupid elves.
Ah well, at least the second issue was entertaining)





Damn, its going to SUCK if it turns out the sombra one is terrible while the Tirek one turns out good...

Blech. Right out of the gate, I'm not really digging the story they're coming up with for Sombra.
Oh well. Not like it matters, especially in less than 5 days.

surprised that no one's complained about "Pandering" about the Sombrero line.

>>36792698
>Damn, its going to SUCK if it turns out the sombra one is terrible while the Tirek one turns out good...
Of course it will suck, because God hates me and doesn't want anything good for the characters that I like and nobody else does.

They already gave him a generic-as-fuck "bullied as a kid" backstory.

>>36792704
Oh, it's not the show, so it's perfectly ok. Had it been the show it would have been an unforgivable crime.

>>36792704
there is a sombrero line?

>>36792707
A filly calls him Sombrero.>>36792672

>>36792709
to be fair. that sound like a dumb name a kid will come up with.

is like some one name "Paco" and they call him "Taco"

>>36792705

I think they're making it work. Him being a foreigner who has trouble with the local dialect makes him being an outcast make sense, and his Orphanage matron and Hope are nice characters.

Ironically, I actually HOPE it doesn't suck now, a I like how its starting out. I can get behind a bullied backstory if they do it well.



>>36792710

I would predict kids would probably call the kid Taco Paco instead of just "taco" though.

On that note, I think Taco is actually somewhat common as a cat name for some reason....


>>36792700

Hah, yeah, S5 and all that. But I'm still looking forward to this comic now.

>>36792712
It doesn't matter if it makes sense or whatever, I know right now how this entire story is going to develop. And even then, it doesn't matter, it already crippled Sombra by showing him as a maladjusted little tyke. It's like showing Lord Vodermort or Sauron as a baby, it deflates the threat of the character.

Of course, that doesn't count for you, since you already hate him, but it does for me.

>>36792715
>And even then, it doesn't matter, it already crippled Sombra by showing him as a maladjusted little tyke. It's like showing Lord Vodermort or Sauron as a baby, it deflates the threat of the character.
The point of these comics is to expand upon the characters by showing their origins, which the Harry Potter books did at least do with Voldemort. Some of those stories are going to include looking at their youth, like the Tirek one also has his young teenage self. I wouldn't call Sombra maladjusted, more like socially awkward. Maladjusted to me would be more something like Voldemort in his childhood, where they mentioned that while he was staying at an orphanage he hanged the rabbit of someone he got into a fight with, and that he did so unspeakably horrific to two kids they went mute.

And I don't know a lot about LotR mythos, but from my understanding Sauron wasn't born a regular person, he was a fallen Maia spirit created before the creation of the world of Middle-Earth, whereas Sombra was most likely a regular pony once who only became a shadowy monster later.

>>36792718
Well, they could have at the very least have gone with a more creative route. I've seem stories like this so often that I already know how it's going to go down, and what I liked about Sombra was that he WASN'T like the other villains.

Then again, I was the only one who liked him. I doubt even the creators of this comic liked him.

>>36792721
>Well, they could have at the very least have gone with a more creative route. I've seem stories like this so often that I already know how it's going to go down,
Well doesn't a lot of exposure to media make you better able to predict how a story will go? Not to mention the story already has a foregone conclusion, so it's more of a matter of figuring out what has to change from the beginning to match what happens in the present.

And we still don't know fully how the story will go down. Maybe it will go as expected, but what matters to me I guess more is how it's told. I've seen enough storylines, particularly wrestling ones, where they were more concerned about being unpredictable that the story that could have been told, even if you saw the results coming, would still have been enjoyable.

>Then again, I was the only one who liked him. I doubt even the creators of this comic liked him.
And please don't do this "I was the only one who liked him" mentality like you've used when talking about Celestia. You are not the only fan of him. It doesn't matter if there are people who hate of make fun of him, that doesn't mean those people are all the people in the fandom. And just because someone writes a character in a way that you don't like doesn't mean they don't like the character, they just have different ideas for them.

Good to see more King Sombra.

>>36792726

Normally I would refute this 100%, as he only beats Sunset shimmer in villainy as a character.

That being said, I actually am looking forward to seeing more of this comic.

>>36792715
> It's like showing Lord Vodermort or Sauron as a baby


You mean like... Tom riddle?

>>36792736
Yeah, but that was back before they had Vodermort on screen and had to build his character based on the few remaining registries of his existence.

Y'now, before he was lame.

>>36792742
So you mean it was alright to use his diary to expand upon his history due to him not being physically there?

>>36792745
Nah, it was because by that time Vodermort wasn't really a thing. Sure, he appeared in the back of the head of some dumbass teacher, but that was a really weakened, horrifying little gaze into what he was, we still didn't have any idea who Vodermort _was_, due to how frightened everybody was of him, to the point were they were afraid of even saying his name.

Sombra... was revealed from the very start.

And he wasn't given a sense of grandiose both outside and in universe.

  Imagine this rant applied to a lame character.

Alright, got through the last comic.

...It was g...

...It was... gggg....

...It was gOOOo...

...It was GOOD! GOD, FUCKING. DAMN IT.

I have felt sheepish in my life before, but this is a moment that trumps most of 'em. I am going to hit my head against a wall until I feel less like a twat now.

Meh. Sombra's story was about as underwhelming as I was expecting.

So much so that I will meh a second time.

>>36792804


AND HERE YOU WERE DENYING ALL MY POSITIVITY ABOUT THIS COMIC!


>>36792664





I rather liked this one.
Sombra as a villain made FAR more sense in this scenario, and I rather like how they set things up. I said all along, Sombra would work best as nothing but a pathetic puppet: and that's what he is here.

He's nothing but a pitiful fool being strung along by a being far darker than him, the Crystal. The plan of unleashing a bunch of Umbra ponies makes him FAR more credible of a threat than he was before, and at the same time makes him even MORE pathetic as a character.

Specifically, Once he free'd the army, I'm fairly certain the crystal would dispose of him; he's a means to an end, nothing more. He wouldn't be a "king", he'd just be another pawn to it no doubt.




Anyways, the backstory he had was nice and sets him up as a nice tragic villain. His actions with Hope were well done, and I liked his dealing with Amore. Though, that being said, I rather wish he HAD killed amore, not this "Oh, don't worry, she's not Dead!" crap.
let him have a kill under his belt, goddamnit!




On that note, this comic kind of shows the divide between the show and the comic's views of becoming a princess though; This comic is just like "Being able to do incredible magical feats equals you will become a princess", while there's no indication of that in the show anywhere, or we'd have far more princesses by now no doubt (and starswirl would probably have been "Prince starswirl").




On that note... I kind of wonder if the alicorn amulet isn't an artifact created by this Crystal mother?

>>36792819
If that's your interpretation of events, sure...

>This comic is just like "Being able to do incredible magical feats equals you will become a princess"
Keep in mind we only have Sombra's word for it, and we don't even know what was inside that letter.

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With the plot points introduced such as Princess Amore's pieces being scattered across Equestria, the reveal of Sombra being an umbrum created by a crystal, and the ending with Sombra's horn, I wonder if Whitley may have also been planting the seeds to a future story arc.

>>36792852
So... how did the horn end there anyways? It was blown far away from the empire.

>>36792853
I guess it just took some time rolling there.

>>36792819
>Though, that being said, I rather wish he HAD killed amore, not this "Oh, don't worry, she's not Dead!" crap.
>let him have a kill under his belt, goddamnit!
And Unlikeable, I think Whitley read your post.

>>36792857
>dissenting opinion
>misrepresenting that dissenting opinion in a very strawman-ish way
>"CALM DOWN!"

Whitley pls go.

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>>36792860
For someone not familiar with Unlikeable, it might seem like someone overreacting.
>"I didn't want this "She's not dead" crap."
>"I want him to kill, goddamnit!"
>talking about a MLP comic

Edit: And he's just said that his comment came from amusement that someone would think Hasbro would allow a kill like that, not a desire to shame anyone.

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>>36792857
And people wonder why I hate that prick...

>>36792861
Whitely's still a doosh-bahg.

>>36792857
how now?
we cant talk about stuff behind scenes with out complains?

or marimo went to snitch on us with him?

>>36792869
Are you saying he can't just check out what other pony fan sites are saying?

>>36792872
well.... i thought doing that was ilegal against their contract.

for example, what if i say something like "they should do" and if they do, then legal issues comes and stuff.

or it have to be specificaly "no fanfics"

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>>36792874
It's not exactly illegal, but it is advised to just stay away from looking at fanfics.

>>36792874

There are artists and writers from the comics and sometimes the show that post occasionally on other forums.

>>36792876
>>36792877
to some degree i get why dont read fanfics.

but at the same time why is so "not recommended" because issues about stealing others work? or what?

if that was the case, writters couldnt watch any other kind of media because they could risk to be stealing from there.

i dont like to read fanfics so is not like i can talk about the subject really, maybe the fanfic have something else that i dont know

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>>36792857
>>36792860
>>36792861


Eh, its alright I'm a laid back guy, I don't mind a response like that ;)

I *KNOW* hasbro is incredibly squeamish about kills, so its unlikely. But I kind of figured the "she was already stone so shattering her is less gruesome" aspect might have let it slip under the radar.
(since the "kill" would more or less have been from being turned to crystal, with the shattering part more being for effect".


Either way, after thinking about it I think I can see a reason for it beyond just turning her to crystal.
>>36792852

Specifically, what marimo says. His whole thing about how someone might be able to fix her someday seems like its set up as a major plot hook.


Actually, this ENTIRE thing seems set up as a plot hook. The Real big bad of the story is the Crystal mother, not Sombra, so killing sombra essentially does nothing. Even if sombra was dead, she'd just make another puppet and start over.
The Umbra are still underneath the empire, which is a greater threat than sombra ever was. And there's still hope and Sombra's story.



I actually kind of wonder if this might tie into Season 5/6 stuff with the umbra, or if the Umbra will remain Comics only. Either way, I'm 100% expecting that Sombra will pull a "redemption equals death" thing here with hope.

Probably in a future arc, the mane six end up having to find and fix Amore, and end up fixing Hope along the way, wherever she is.
Hope will probably end up reasoning with Sombra again, only succeeding this time, with him performing a heroic sacrifice to kill the Crystal mother.



Anyways, I really, really like what they did with this arc. They took a villain who I HATED (and I cannot state how much I disliked sombra), and made him likeable.
He's a 180 from how he was in show though, I will admit; He has a personality, he talks, he doesn't just grunt. he has real character to him.

>>36792879
killing is alright as long you dont say you kill her.

because im pretty sure no body in the universe will ever restore that princess, so the point of a "maybe she will be back" is pointless.

but what ever, if that is the excuse, is ok.

>>36792879
>But I kind of figured the "she was already stone so shattering her is less gruesome" aspect might have let it slip under the radar.
>(since the "kill" would more or less have been from being turned to crystal, with the shattering part more being for effect".
Whitley always intended for her to not be explicitly dead, but Hasbro wanted him to clarify that.

>I actually kind of wonder if this might tie into Season 5/6 stuff with the umbra, or if the Umbra will remain Comics only
He also said that he came up with the idea, and got Hasbro's approval.

>and end up fixing Hope along the way, wherever she is.
I'm pretty sure she just ended up dying of old age.

>>36792879
Eh, I find it more likely that Umbra Sombra will join up with the rest of the Umbra, forming some sort of dark hivemind, and leave behind his pony form, devoid of any memories of who he is.

>>36792884
>I'm pretty sure she just ended up dying of old age.
Did she? She was fated to become an Alicorn princess...

It's still up in the air whether or not she still became a princess or if the events of the fall of the Empire left her too emotionally damaged to become one.

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>>36792879
>Hope will probably end up reasoning with Sombra again, only succeeding this time, with him performing a heroic sacrifice to kill the Crystal mother.
>>36792887
>Eh, I find it more likely that Umbra Sombra will join up with the rest of the Umbra, forming some sort of dark hivemind, and leave behind his pony form, devoid of any memories of who he is.
Then I'll bet on the third option that Sombra ends up betraying the crystal for his own purposes to become the final enemy!

You know, is it just me or does this Story remind anyone else of the Farmer and the viper?

Amore knew what sombra was and tried to show him compassion rather than destroying him, urging him all along that he could be more than a monster.
Sombra, in turn, responded with malice, destroying her.

Basically, showing love to a monster and appealing to it to not give in to its nature resulted in the same thing as the farmer's death.


>>36792884
>I'm pretty sure she just ended up dying of old age.

I find this doubtful, due to the incredibly obvious hook of sombra saying he has a "Special" spell for her without saying what it is.

That seems like its overwhelmingly meant as a lead to him Placing her in a cursed state of some type, such as being frozen in some manner, in order for the Mane six to encounter her later.

>>36792887

I don't know, he has too much backstory now for me to see that happening.

>>36792887
>Did she? She was fated to become an Alicorn princess...


Sombra says that, and on incredibly Dubious grounds (OMG PINKIE HAS PINKIE SENSE! That incredible magic means she is destined to become a princess!
Shining armor has incredible shield magic! He will become a prince--- a completely Non-alicorn mortal prince.)

Its highly plausible it was just Sombra having a freak out about possibly losing his only friend.

>>36792888

AND THEN SOMBRA WAS NEXT BOSS!!111

I just think Hope and Sombra's relationship is too powerful of a component of his backstory to go that route.
I can't imagine them NOT having sombra turn good in the end-- It would invalidate Amore and Hope's hard work and all they stood for: namely, to show compassion to others no matter what, and their message of rising above your background.


To have sombra not redeem himself would essentially invalidate all they'd done. It'd be like if Discord had Stayed evil and abused fluttershy's trust in her.

>>36792889
>Basically, showing love to a monster and appealing to it to not give in to its nature resulted in the same thing as the farmer's death.
The difference being that Amore didn't do shit. Instead of taking Sombra aside when he was small, telling him who he was, and trying to help him cope with it, maybe moving him away from the Crystal Heart. Instead, she let him suffer year after year, only saying "you can change your ways", even though he was doomed by the time she said that to him the second time.

Honestly, Amore brought this upon herself.

>Sombra says that, and on incredibly Dubious grounds
Actually, if you paid attention to an earlier page, both him and her saw their destinies on the Crystal Heart, and Hope was destined to be an Alicorn Princess.

>To have sombra not redeem himself would essentially invalidate all they'd done.
I think it would further drive home how corrupted Sombra has became. The colt that Hope loved died on the day he ran away from the empire.

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>>36792889
>I find this doubtful, due to the incredibly obvious hook of sombra saying he has a "Special" spell for her without saying what it is.
The first panel on the next page that finishes the journal makes it pretty clear that the spell he's referring to is the one that banishes the crystal empire for 1000 years.
>And Radiant Hope, she'll suffer the worst. She betrayed me to save this "home" of hers. I've developed a new spell just for her.
>How bitter will her victory taste when she has no home left?

Not to mention it'd be odd for her to even be in range of him placing a curse on her. She was the one who went to Celestia and Luna to get help. We see her on the outskirts of the Crystal Empire, but I'm pretty sure that's just her watching in the distance as Celestia and Luna take out Sombra, rather than her telling the two and then outracing them back to the Crystal Empire to confront Sombra alone.

>>36792890
>Actually, if you paid attention to an earlier page, both him and her saw their destinies on the Crystal Heart, and Hope was destined to be an Alicorn Princess.
Princess was in her potential, but it doesn't look like she'd have wings. Amore also wasn't an alicorn to be the crystal princess.

>>36792892
Maybe her wings are just hidden underneath her pretty hair.

>>36792890
>To have sombra not redeem himself would essentially invalidate all they'd done.
>I think it would further drive home how corrupted Sombra has became. The colt that Hope loved died on the day he ran away from the empire.


at the same time, the message would be not to show kindness and understanding to others, but just judge them based on their background or first impressions and show no mercy.

Kindness would more or less be shown to be a liability, since killing sombra would have been the unequivicably best choice.


>>36792892
>>36792893


Eh, most probably she's just a normal pony. The problem with the "Alicorns = princess/princess = alicorn" thing they've set up is that then there's no "lower" level of royalty to upgrade a pony to if they're good enough to become a ruler but not good enough to become an alicorn.


Then again, WHAT would she be the princess of? What, is there just a big basket of a lands lying around that celestia and luna assign random unicorns to rule over?

>>36792894
Honestly, I think the real message is "If you have the Anti-Christ under you domain, maybe you should actually do something about it instead of just expecting him to do the right thing".

You say that Amore and Hope showed him great kindness and that's why he should redeem himself, but I should remind you that Hope just treated him nicely because he was a friend and she never thought there was anything wrong with him, and Amore did precisely jack fucking shit while Sombra suffered year after year.

I mean, for fuck sake, SOMBRA NEARLY FUCKING DIED the last year, and would have died the next Crystal Fair. Did she expect that his dessicated remains would do the right choice? She was fully aware that the Crystal Heart was KILLING HIM and she did nothing.

>Then again, WHAT would she be the princess of?
Princess of Healing?

>>36792895

"healing" is not a kingdom.

>but I should remind you that Hope just treated him nicely because he was a friend and she never thought there was anything wrong with him,

Even after Sombra turned Amore into crystal Hope was still trying to tell him things would be alright and that she could help him.
THAT'S devotion to a friend, that when they've gone full serial killer you're still trying to help them and legitimately saying it with the intent to fix their problems.


Amore attempted to council Sombra about how he could rise above who he was as a being early on, and while it might have been best if she told him from the start who he was, This was probably something she felt he needed to find out on his own and make his own decisions.

Amore wasn't a puppet master after all, she wasn't trying to rip Sombra's free will away by telling him from the start "You're an evil monster, you can play nice or I'll kill you", she wanted him to make his own decision.



Think of it this way: do you think Obi wan kenobi was evil for not telling luke immediately his father was darth vader?
(Actually, kind of a small bit of paralell between sombra and anakin here, what with Sombra being corrupted by an older more evil being, destroying amore, and then going all "WE CAN RULE TOGETHER!" with Hope.

>>> and then it turns out Cadence is sombra's daughter that he knocked hope up with)

>>36792899
love, sun, friendship and ,moon neither.

>>36792899
There's letting somebody find their own way and there's letting the anti-christ roam around free without doing something about it.

It's not "Be nice or I'll kill you", it's "Look Sombra, I know you're intended for a nefarious purpose, and the Crystal Heart is poisonous to you, We'll move you to Canterlot where you'll be safe from the Crystal's power, and from the evil forces that intend to use you. We'll have Hope visit you constantly so that you are not alone, and we'll do our best to give you a life as normal as we possibly can".

Thing is, Amore didn't even try to keep Sombra on the right path. In fact, she knew full well that he suffered each year without knowing why, she knew full well of what was in store for his fate, and she never lifted a hoof to help him.

It's like if they kept Hellboy stuck inside a cage on a dark basement for his entire life, and then acted surprised when he accepted his fate as the bringer of Armageddon.

>>36792904

Cadence is the princess of the Crystal empire.
Celestia Rules Canterlot and all of equestria.
Twilight presumably rules ponyville now.


What kingdom would Hope have?

>>36792905

That's not in any way shape or form similar.

Sombra was raised in an orphanage run by an INCREDIBLY kind mare, was given free reign to roam free in the crystal empire and see all its wonders, and was, apart from the other children at the orphanage, treated 100% as a normal pony with all the respect and love that entails.

that's Nothing like locking him up in a dark cage.




telling him his true nature too early might have just made him feel horrible with no self esteem due to his nature, and driven him away.

Further, Sombra's not at all what I'd call the anti-christ: he's far less grand than that. He's just a means to an end.

>>36792906
she was on stand by.
cadence for years had no empire at all, in fact, Cadence stole her kingdom

>>36792906
Alright then, it's like if somebody was viciously tortured once a year, and then after one year were this person was nearly melted into nothingness, the torturers revealed their identity, and expected the person to still side with them.

Seriously, need I remind you that Sombra would have FUCKING DIED if Hope wasn't there to save him? Amore knew that the Crystal Heart was killing him, and never did anything to help. I'm almost fully convinced that she was actively counting on the Crystal Heart just killing Sombra one day, so that she wouldn't have to deal with the trouble child anymore.

>Further, Sombra's not at all what I'd call the anti-christ: he's far less grand than that. He's just a means to an end.
He's destined to usher forth an army of monsters that prey on the fear and darkness within the hearts of ponies.

YEP LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THE ANTI-CHRIST.

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Thinking about this comic, I wonder if the Crystal might have been "Lying" in a jedi truth kind of way, if it has limited precognition like how the crystal heart seems to?

The crystal says that unless he stops the crystal fair, the next one will kill him: The next time the crystal fair is held is in TCE when the Heart destroys him in blinding light.

But If he hadn't Given in to his dark side and attacked the empire and made himself 100% an enemy of it, is it possible he would merely have been in pain rather than dying, possibly even with help from hope in time having a way to avoid the pain?

Could the Crystal have deliberately lied to him in order to spur him on to do its bidding?


>>36792908

The anti-christ is Satan in human form, in opposition to Christ as God in Human form.

Sombra ushering in monsters for the Crystal doesn't strike me as Being the living incarnation of the crystal mother, rather than just a tool of it.


On that note, I kind of hope it turns out that all the other Umbra are various shapes and sizes instead of being a race of shadow ponies (It'd be a bit of a retcon of what the Crystal says, but still). I kind of feel it'd work out better if Sombra turns out to be unique in being made in the image of a pony.



>the torturers revealed their identity, and expected the person to still side with them.


Except Amore WASN'T his torturer. It was the crystal heart's magic, not Amore.

that'd be like a Half vampire getting sunburned if they stayed out in the sun too long and blaming a normal human for the sun's effects.

>>36792910
>On that note, I kind of hope it turns out that all the other Umbra are various shapes and sizes instead of being a race of shadow ponies (It'd be a bit of a retcon of what the Crystal says, but still). I kind of feel it'd work out better if Sombra turns out to be unique in being made in the image of a pony.
I kinda expect them to be amorphous maelstroms of shadows and crystals. It would also be kinda cool if it turned out that Sombra could only understand his Mother because he is an Umbra himself, and to normal ponies they sound like unholy horrors.

Because I love "incomprehensible evil" villains.

>Except Amore WASN'T his torturer. It was the crystal heart's magic, not Amore.
She was still the one in control of the Crystal.

Point is: She had full power to help Sombra while he was suffering violently from the Crystal Heart's influence, yet she never did anything. Sombra nearly DIED, and she never did anything. Sombra was lost amidst the snows for DAYS, and she never did anything.

Oh, but say "You can still change" to Sombra when he was at the brink of insanity, scared, weak, and desperate, since his fate was now sealed and he was going to die if he didn't take the Crystal Heart? Oh, that she can do.

What if Sombra had listened to her and changed his mind? Would she just let him die next year? She seemed perfectly happy to just let him die when Hope was around, and she was going away by the time the next Crystal Fair hit.

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>>36792911


Amore wasn't the one commanding the crystal heart, she's its guardian and overseer, but the crystal heart is EVERYPONY'S emotions.

Its not Amore, its the crystal ponies as a whole, the entire race and city itself. The only way to turn that off is to demoralize the entire population, Amore has no power to turn that off.


>Sombra was lost amidst the snows for DAYS, and she never did anything.

Sombra's an Umbra, and she knew that. She almost assuredly knew he'd be fine due to his nature.
She probably also knew what he'd find out there, but wanted to allow him to make his own decisions and find out the truth himself.


>Oh, but say "You can still change" to Sombra when he was at the brink of insanity, scared, weak, and desperate, since his fate was now sealed and he was going to die if he didn't take the Crystal Heart? Oh, that she can do.
>What if Sombra had listened to her and changed his mind? Would she just let him die next year?


Once again, self fulfilling prophecy. The "next" crystal fair that killed him was one where he was openly attacking the crystal head on while it was being utilized as a weapon.

If Sombra had not done as he did, its possible he would not have met that fate, and there are many ways he could have survived (Who knows? with his heart purified I wouldn't think it impossible for an object of power like the crystal heart to make him a "real" pony instead)

>>36792912
>She probably also knew what he'd find out there, but wanted to allow him to make his own decisions and find out the truth himself.
THEN WHAT WAS HIS OTHER DECISION THEN, WHAT WAS HIS OTHER CHOICE? HE WAS NEVER GIVEN ANOTHER, SHE NEVER PRESENTED HIM A CHOICE. THE CHOICES THAT HE KNEW WERE EITHER "Steal the Crystal Heart or die".

SHE THEN REVEALS TO HIM THAT SHE KNEW FULL WELL THAT HE WAS SUFFERING, SHE KNEW FULL WELL WHAT HE WAS, AND THAT SHE KNEW FULL WELL WHAT THE CRYSTAL HEART WAS DOING TO HIM, AND THEN EXPECTED HIM TO NOT TAKE OUT ALL HIS RAGE AND FRUSTRATION ON TO HIM? HE WAS NEVER GIVEN A STRONG MORALITY CODE, HE WAS NEVER GIVEN A REASON TO TRUST HER, AND SHE JUST ADMITTED THAT SHE WAS COMPLACENT IN HIS TORMENT, AND YOU THINK THAT SHE HAS A FUCKING POINT?

Y'NOW, CELESTIA ALSO BELIEVED IN "Figure it out for yourself", BUT SHE ALSO WASN'T A FUCKING RETARD. SHE INTERVENED WHEN REQUIRED OF HER, SHE DIDN'T JUST WAIT FOR TWILIGHT TO SNAP OUT OF DISCORD'S CONTROL ON HER OWN, SHE DIDN'T JUST LET THE CHAOS THAT SHE CAUSED IN PONYVILLE TO GO UNCHECKED, SHE DIDN'T JUST IGNORE THE SITUATION IN THE CRYSTAL EMPIRE. AMORE HAD ONE FUCKING KID TO TAKE CARE OF, AND SHE DIDN'T EVEN DO THAT.

Bottom line: She's a fucking idiot who doomed her empire and her people because she was a negligent shithead who confused allowing one's character to grow, and not doing jack fucking shit to help.

>with his heart purified I wouldn't think it impossible for an object of power like the crystal heart to make him a "real" pony instead
When he was a normal pony the Crystal Heart was still destroying him. It damn near did fully destroy him.

>>36792913

No, I mean "REAL real pony". As in flesh and blood, not just shadow in pony form. As in a unicorn, not an umbra taking on a Unicorn form.

Like a vampire being turned human.


>rant on Amore snipt to save space

he had ponies who cared about him. Amore cared about him, Hope cared about him, the Orphanage matron cared about him.

he had ponies who really did want to offer him love and compassion, family and friendship.
He was throwing all of that away by siding with the Umbra. He had a choice. If he turned his back on the Crystal mother then, Amore would have accepted him the same as when she found him, and, his choice having been made to turn over a new leaf, she would no doubt have offered him every opportunity to better himself.


Hell, She might even have entrusted him to Celestia and Luna as a student just like hope, with them teaching him to control his powers and use them for good.

>>36792914
>If he turned his back on the Crystal mother then, Amore would have accepted him the same as when she found him
Why would he do such a thing?

She never helped him, not even for a second, she never helped him when he suffered year after year, or when he got lost in the snowy fields. His Crystal Mother at the very least offered him clarity in what he was.

And again: The next Crystal Fair was going to kill him. In fact, he would have died in that Crystal Fair had Hope not saved him. What if something happened and she wasn't able to figure out how to save him? What if she wasn't there to help him because she got sick herself, or was delayed on her way to his house? Was Amore just going to let him die?

Don't give me crap about how she "cared for him", if she did, she wouldn't have left him for dead twice.

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>>36792916

The crystal mother Created him and sent him to live in a land filled with an object that could kill him as well.
Sombra's owed the Crystal mother nothing either.
On the other hand, Hope was all that he Really cared for, and he was going on a Full Anakin Skywalker "Rule together as husband and wife!" rant there, showing that, in the end, that was what he truly cared about.

He threw away the one thing he felt was precious to him: Hope, by choosing to side with the crystal mother.


Also, we only have the Crystal mother's Word that Sombra would have died: Which, I have pointed out, is a Self fulfilling prophecy-- it killed him because he attacked the empire in TCE.

Amore could also have realized Hope's abilities early on if she had precognition like other princesses (Celestia for example) have, like how the crystal seemed to know. She could have known he'd be fine so long as he was with hope.

>>36792917
>Also, we only have the Crystal mother's Word that Sombra would have died
Did you miss the page where SOMBRA FUCKING EXPLODED and had to be put back together by Hope? As well as the page where Hope got a letter from Princess Celestia, which would most likely have her leave the Empire?

>She could have known he'd be fine so long as he was with hope.
Well, what if he wasn't? AGAIN, SHE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. She didn't do anything to ease his pain, she didn't do anything to prevent him from interacting with the Crystal Mother, she didn't do anything to strengthen his moral fiber so that he didn't immediately turn on Ponykind when he learned that his very life was at stake after spending several days alone in the snow being corrupted by a crystal made out of pure fucking evil, being taught forbidden dark arts.

And again, if she had the power of precognition, why wouldn't she figure out that doing fucking nothing to help Sombra would eventually lead to her being reduced to crystal shards?

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>>36792918

Choices. Its a common practice for a precog to only pick up a POSSIBILITY, not set in stone 100% what will happen.

As such, she might have realized what he would probably have turned out like... but would have been trying to avoid that fate with kindness.

>>36792918
>Did you miss the page where SOMBRA FUCKING EXPLODED and had to be put back together by Hope?

Which he survived, thanks to hope. There's no reason to doubt that Hope could not have continued helping him, nor that she would ever have given up or forsaken her task of insuring Sombra could survive another year.

Friendship's a powerful thing: I think Hope's dedication to sombra as a friend would have given her the resolve and desire in her magic to insure his survival, no matter what.

>>36792919
>As such, she might have realized what he would probably have turned out like... but would have been trying to avoid that fate with kindness.
ALRIGHT THEN, WHERE WAS THAT FUCKING KINDNESS WHEN HE WAS SUFFERING YEAR AFTER YEAR BY BEING SLOWLY KILLED BY THE CRYSTAL HEART?

>Which he survived, thanks to hope. There's no reason to doubt that Hope could not have continued helping him, nor that she would ever have given up or forsaken her task of insuring Sombra could survive another year.
OH, THERE'S THAT KINDNESS, HAVING HOPE DROP EVERYTHING IN HER LIFE TO ENSURE THAT HER BEST FRIEND DIDN'T DIE ALONE AND IN HORRIFYING AGONIZING PAIN EVERY SINGLE FUCKING YEAR, REAL FUCKING KIND AMORE.

>>36792920
And? what would you have had her do? That's not something she could just pat his head on and fix. That's his physiological state that the Heart would do that.


She kept a close eye on hope and sombra, and you don't think she cared for him? Someone who was cruel wouldn't try and offer sombra a second chance when he was trying to steal the heart, Someone who was cruel would have had him killed when he was found as a child.


Sombra's situation is a harsh one, him enduring pain was inevitable.


>>36792664



On the note of the Umbra... I wonder... That army that attacked canterlot in Celestia's micro. Could that have been Umbra?
They looked to be beings of shadow and its possible there are more of them out there.

>>36792921
>And? what would you have had her do?
I dunno, MOVE HIM AWAY FROM THE CRYSTAL HEART AFTER CALMLY EXPLAINING WHAT HE IS AND HELPING HIM COPE WITH IT?

OH, WAIT, THAT WOULD HAVE BROKEN HIS FRAGILE LITTLE MIND, BETTER JUST LEAVE HIM SUFFERING HORRIBLE AGONIZING PAIN YEAR AFTER YEAR AND THEN LET HIM FIGURE OUT IN THE WORST WAY POSSIBLE THAT HE IS A MONSTER.

>She kept a close eye on hope and sombra, and you don't think she cared for him?
WHERE WAS THAT FUCKING CLOSE EYE? WHERE? WHERE? POINT ME THE FUCKING PAGE WHERE SHE KEPT THAT FUCKING EYE CLOSE. IT'S NOT THE PAGE WHERE HE RAN AWAY FROM THE CRYSTAL EMPIRE, IT'S NOT THE PAGE WHERE HE NEARLY FUCKING DIED, IT'S NOT THE PAGE WHERE HE'S BEING CORRUPTED BY HIS SATAN MOTHER, SHE WAS NEVER THERE WHEN HE FUCKING NEEDED HER, BUT SHE STILL EXPECTED HIM TO DO WHAT SHE WANTED HIM TO.

>>36792923
/sigh

I can see our conversation is just going to be a constantly rebounding back and forth here 441. I think we might want to just agree to disagree because the past 4 posts have been nigh identical in opposing arguments.

What if Equestria's Sombra resurrects himself and met the Sombra from Reflections? Would it be like that one saga from DBGT and have the two merge into Super Sombra?

>>36792940
that mean he will be good or he will be evil?

i could say "logically evil, because the "evil good sombra" and "evil sombra" = evil evil sombra", but you cant under estimate the power of balck brad.

>>36792940
ONLY IF IT'S A 25 PAGE SPECIAL WHERE SOMBRA BRUTALLY TORTURES BLACK BRAD UNTIL HE DIES ON A POOL OF HIS OWN URINE!

So, lets see if I can come up with Good sombra's backstory based on Mirror logic.


he was created by the Solus crystal in the Crystal wastes, a being of pure goodness, to inflitrate the crystal empire, with the Mother Crystal's desire being that he would realize the corruption of the place and destroy its dark magical artifact, the shadow heart, that kept her Children, spirits of love and goodness, locked away beneath the earth.


He quickly made many friends at the orphanage, adapting to the empire's brutal ideology (Thinking that love and kindness were weaknesses and that selfishness was strength), but was constantly bullied by a horrible filly named hope; every year he would be wracked by pain during the crystal faire, while she would come visit to mock him and laugh at his pain.


Eventually he would almost summon the energy to throw off the Shadow hearts energy and actually get out of bed during a crystal fair, only for Hope to afflict him with a horrible disease, discovering that her true talent was Spreading disease and pestilence via magic.


Horrified that Hope would become a terrible monstrosity upon the land under Celestia and Luna's tutalage, he fled into the wastes where he met his mother.

He had an epiphany about the evils of the empire when it would ask him how HE felt when Hope tormented him all those years, realizing the Wrongness of the empire's values of Social darwinism, and returned to the City to steal the shadow heart and save the solus buried underneath the city.


Unfortunately he was caught by the Empire's ruler, amore, who had never realized his true nature till now, and wanted to kill him to stop him from being a threat. Unfortuantely, she was quickly killed by Hope via a sudden case of Pony aids.

Hope then did a very long list of Clumsy come ons to Sombra telling him that her Tormenting him was just her really bad way of flirting, and that she wanted to rule the empire with him as Husband and wife.
Sombra rejected her and stole the shadow heart, with Hope fleeing to tell Luna and Celestia.



However, since this is mirror world, Sombra instead won, Unleashing the solus from beneath the empire just in time to Defeat luna and Celestia and usher in an age of hope and prosperity.

>>36792942
Sombra's urine? or black brad's urine?

Ok, i think i will take a look to the sombra issue to see what they come up with.

because as far i have seen, there isnt much stupid on it.

>>36792945

I would reccomend it. Its a really good Comic. That being said, It Fixes sombra by making him In name only, more or less.

The sombra of the comic is nothing like the sombra of the show, the only things they have in common is "he's a shadow creature" and "he took over the Crystal empire".
Not that its a bad thing, they preserved his lore of being a tyrant over the empire while Rerailing him to fill a vacant position in the villain hiarchy (specifically, we don't really have any tragic monster characters in the show)


>>36792664


Just though I'd say, I finally got around to reading the Christmas Equestria girls comic...

AND WHAT THE ACTUAL SHIT. man, that was terrible. It really was.
come on comic staff, when you make a special comic, take the time to make a really good one (like the sombra comic was). This was just... bleh, it was just terrible.


The plot was hackneyed, the art wasn't that good, and I wanted to Punch the CMC so hard. That is the most passive aggressive, petulantly childish thing I can imagine being done. Seriously AB, WTF girl.
That is how bad this comic is: It has reduced me to wanting to abuse children. I would not have cared if they got hit with a two by four.



Anyways, my hyperbole aside. Bad, bad comic. the only good part was Fluttershy playing Video games. Her sleepwalking line about her bunny using his limit break did make me smile.

Extended Tirek preview.

>>36793567
Why does Tirek have two more legs than his brother?!

>>36793568
>>36793568


Could be an adopted brother.

>>36793568
Why does Scorpan have wings and not his brother?

Further, why is Pumpkin Cake a unicorn and Pound Cake a pegasus?

How is Goku and Vegeta able to breed with earthling women if they're Saiyans from a different planet?

How can a vulcan and a human produce offspring if their DNA and bodies are likely vastly different, and produce someone like Spock?

>>36793570

The vulcan thing was actually explained, in that all races of the galaxy (or the humanoid ones at least) are all descended from a single species of aliens that seeded planets with their DNA.

  >>36793571

Also have a three page preview for Fiendship #3.

>>36793577
OH YEAH, SURE, GO DO YOUR CONCERT THING RIGHT UNDERNEATH CELESTIA'S MUZZLE, SHE'LL NEVER NOTICE IT.

>>36793577

Woah, woah, woah. ARIA is the scared one? Aria, the douchey, antagonistic one who's constantly fighting with the others?
SHE'S the scaredy cat of the bunch?

WAT.


I'm kind of thinking that, since their gems aren't red currently that they actually get some sort of corruption or something like that later on that alters their personality (and turns their gems red), because they seem... Off right now.

>>36793578


Hey, for all we know Celestia and Luna might still be little kids right now: it doesn't say how far in the past we are, and Starswirl took on Celestia and Luna when they were barely fillies.

So it might not be as dangerous now as you'd think.


>>36793575
>>36793576
>>36793577



And Celestia damnit, is this one crashing my hopes. I was REALLY looking forward to this one; I loved the sirens in Rainbow rocks, and was hoping for a good origin story for them, especially after sombra exceeded all my expectations.
But dangit... the art is very lackluster, the characterization and dialogue feels bad, and nothing about this excites me.


Bleh.


>>36793567


I actually AM starting to get a little intrigued for Tirek's one from this panel though. His teacher sounds terrifically foreboding and sinister.

>>36793572

Still expecting it to turn out that Gohan beats cell by having scientific knowledge of cellular biology.

>>36793590
>Hey, for all we know Celestia and Luna might still be little kids right now: it doesn't say how far in the past we are, and Starswirl took on Celestia and Luna when they were barely fillies.
Canterlot wasn't made the Capital of Equestria until after Luna was banished, so they're dealing with a very adult Celestia.

>So it might not be as dangerous now as you'd think.
I KNOW THEIR STORY IN RAINBOW ROCKS, THEY GOT FUCKING CAUGHT.

>>36793590
Well the fact that she's antagonistic and douchey could be a result from this. If I got banished for something that I said was a bad idea I would probably develop some animosity

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>>36793590
>Still expecting it to turn out that Gohan beats cell by having scientific knowledge of cellular biology.
As opposed to just hitting him really, really hard?

>>36793594
I really have to wonder how they're going to play the Father-Son Kamehameha, since Gohan really resents Goku by now.

My guess is that they're either going to digitally replace Ghost Goku with Gohan's imagination of Piccolo, or have Goku patch things with Gohan before he dies.

Also, I hope Episode 47 comes out soon, History of Trunks was about as funny as... well... History of Trunks.

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>>36793593

I don't see it having THAT much of an effect. Holding a grudge wouldn't fundamentally change your personality THAT much, and I never really picked up on her being a scaredy cat.

Adagio seems WAY nicer too and less bossy. More like Alvin of alvin and the chipmunks, more egotistic.

>I KNOW THEIR STORY IN RAINBOW ROCKS, THEY GOT FUCKING CAUGHT.

Except Rainbow rocks seemed to imply their banishment was less of "Oh crap we're about to get curbstomped" and more "Starswirl has an epic and dire battle that he barely won".


Also:

WATCH IT!

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaatch Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!


>>36793595

I'm kind of hoping its replaced by Piccolo in his imagination. I like Piccolo being given more props. (like his voice in Gohan's mind during history of trunks)

>>36793594

XD

I will admit I loved that line.

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>>36793599
I dunno, I don't really want Goku to leave his son in bad terms, I do hope that he realizes that he's been a shitty parent before he has to sacrifice himself.

I mean, I know DBZa can do drama, they did History of Trunks.

this was sexually satisfyng and works so well and words cannot express how happy I am

I love you all of you victory laps friends
he's a good character

its reallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

>>36793602

I didn't think it was possible either, but damn, do I like sombra now.

I kind of hope that Hope is somehow still alive for future comics with Sombra (if they have them)


(also, nice to see you again opal! :D)

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>>36793606
(likewise likewise! )

I gotta gloat a little >:D
I'd love sombra back in the show, not sure if they are ever gonna have comic canon in the show and not the other way around always but..
its still canon. it's extended universe canon for Sombae
and its good

praise amen

>>36793602
Yes it was, it was an actually rather unique villain origin, there aren't a lot of harbingers of doom that actually accept their destiny in fiction.

>>36793616
>not sure if serious

That happens alot actually... there's even a TV tropes page for it. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThenLetMeBeEvil


>>36793611

I wouldn't want to see sombra show up again in show; there's just too much backstory here that's important in making him enjoyable, and I don't see them covering it well in the show without devoting 2 episodes to it, which would eat up all the time for anything beyond that.

I hope they keep him comic only from here on out, with another 4 (or more) issue arc about him coming back and the Mother crystal as the big bad.





>hey, wait a second: Sombra knew he was vastly outmatched by Celestia and luna, no ifs ands or buts.
>Nightmare rarity curb stomped luna and required an EOH blast to defeat
>so... Nightmare rarity is stronger than Sombra?

>>36793620
I meant actual harbingers of doom like Hellboy, who are supposed to pave the way for a great evil

Also I didn't see it often, so it still counts.

>Nightmare rarity curb stomped luna and required an EOH blast to defeat
The problem wasn't beating her, it was beating her without hurting Rarity. Keep in mind that Luna was at a vastly weakened state when she fought her.

I think Sombra just hasn't achieved full power just yet due to his time as a pony. If he does appear again, I predict him completely ditching all that is pony about him and becoming insanely powerful in the process.

>>36793620
>so... Nightmare rarity is stronger than Sombra?
Nightmare Rarity outdid just Luna, not Luna and Celestia together. Not to mention Luna wasn't at her best.

Plus the EoH part was needed more to separate Rarity from the nightmare influence, not to defeat her.

>>36793620
>I hope they keep him comic only from here on out, with another 4 (or more) issue arc about him coming back and the Mother crystal as the big bad.


yo i'll take it

>>36793625

I actually prefer Sombra as a Lt, not the actual threat. The army being the true threat is a much more believable menace than just a "DBZ STRONG" villain. Him being the General of the umbra instead of focusing on him alone.


Its like chrysalis; Chrysalis's threat is that she's the head of a massive shapeshifting army, not that she's just a Godmode being, like Tirek or Discord.

>>36793633
Why do you want for Sombra to be made a bitch so bad?

>>36793634

Being the general of The umbra is "Being a bitch" now?

So I suppose Megatron is a bitch because he's not like Unicron and needs an army?

>>36793636
Didn't you say that you wanted for him to be cast aside when the rest of the Umbra assembled themselves?

>>36793637

There are multiple options. I don't want him to be the SUPREME ruler, no, that's the Crystal's job.

But I don't mean in a "HAHA, I'm going to randomly kill you now!" manner. Rather, I would rather he end up realizing that he's basically in the situation that the 80s Shredder was, in that he'd realize that, for all his power, he's still just another being's lackey in the same way shredder still had to answer to krang. basically, he'd quickly realize that he's still a servant, he's just the HEAD servant.

The other option I'd like would be Hope to still be around and him doing a heel face turn against the mother crystal to sacrifice his life and dying in the process.
(I'd actually prefer this option, but that seems unlikely as a scenario, as killing characters off seems unlikely.)

>>36793639
Honestly, I just want for him to usurp his Crystal Mother. shocking even his fellow umbrum with his ruthlessness.

Because honestly, the bad guy seeing the light at the end because of his old friend and then sacrificing his life is such hockey shit. Make it clear: Sombra CHOOSE evil, whatever chance for redemption that he had went away when he blew up Amore, he let his feelings of isolation and betrayal snuff out whatever goodness he had in his heart, leaving only lust for power and cruelty.

I can meet you halfway and have him cast away his pony remains, which become an independent being with no memory of what he is, while he completely loses his pony shape and becomes a shoggoth.

>>36793640
>Because honestly, the bad guy seeing the light at the end because of his old friend and then sacrificing his life is such hockey shit

Its CLASSIC shit though; Like vader turning on Palpatine. Even evil has loved ones is nice.

>>36793641
Well, trends were made to be bucked, my friend.

>>36793642

No, I don't think that's what trends were made for :p

>>36793643
How about this: Fuck you, it's my imagination, I imagine Badass Sombra as much as I want.

>>36793644

I'm not trying to make him unbadass. I just like him with emotions and human connection.


Hell, my favorite part of the current shredder is that he HAS real emotional investment and attachments, and that it doesn't make him any less bad ass.

>>36793645
This is so surreal.

I've been away for more than year and now I come back to unlikeable saying he likes Sombra and Rainbow Rocks

>>36793646

I still despise Equestria girls with all of my being and find TCE to be the worst episode of the entire series.

I am however willing to accept improvements when they occur, and I will not deny the Comic staff and crew did very good jobs on both RR and Sombra's comic.



Notably however, I find that Sombra in the comics, compared to the show, are really only similiar in asthetics.
In the Show Sombra was a grunting force of darkness that functioned as a force of nature rather than a character. He said "crystals" and "slaves" and his entire premise was "He's scary".

I like him in the comics because they did a 180, and instead emphasize who he IS, emotionally, and is very, VERY chatty.


So do know that I still hate the "sombra" in TCE.

Dude, this comic is insane. It has all the epic betrayal and downfall of the protagonist of Revenge of the Sith, without all the shitty teenage angst, bad acting, and token characters.

>>36793648

THAT'S EXACTLY what I've been saying. Its Anakin skywalker if he wasn't shitty.

I think because people have been going to the comics with progressively lower expectations that when suddenly a slightly average comic comes along people are flocking back saying "see how good the comics CAN be?!"

>>36793657
it feel nice when a comic can be... competent on not droppng the ball really hard.

>>36793657

Its the beginning part that I like the most. You really get the impression that sombra isn't this horrible monster that was always terrible; he seems very nice and earnest off the bat, and its not even really just him always being turned evil due to "the kids when i was growing up were evil" alone.

While that influenced him, it was more a string of extremely bad events that caused his fall rather than generically having a bad childhood alone. (Specifically, almost dying and fearing that he'll lose his only friend are powerful and understandable motives)





Its not like I think the comics are 100% godsends here that can do no wrong: I Still very much find them hit or miss lately, with ones like Cheerilee's wrestling one being HORRIBLE. Its just I Like to give justice where justice is due.

Just going to note, in addition to the Tirek issue being released tomorrow, today's also the release of Princess Celestia and the Summer of Royal Waves.

>>36793702
I'd be excited if these books weren't completely weaksauce.

>>36793702
and how is the book, anything to note... or pretty much nothing?

>>36793705

I do have to admit, I have been very nonplussed by the books. I actually kind of liked the RR one, but the Sparkling sea one, the Crystal heart spell and the RD one made me pretty much go Bleh.

>>36793658
you mean like the western arc
and the dragontown arc
and..

>>36793713
The only one that was decent was the Diary of the two Sisters, and that was written by an actual writer from the show.

>>36793716
Oh, so you hated those too.

>>36793717
>implying people who liked the western arc exist

>>36793718
the very thought of someone reading that arc and thinking it was good is offensive 2 me

>>36793716

I haven't read any comics since Reflections. Then I watched Silver Quill's reviews on the others.

Does anyone have the Tirek comic yet?

Whelp, there goes my high in the comics.

That was... well, it was more or less nothing.
Now, the art was GOOD. I will admit that, the comic was nice to look at., and had beautiful design to it. But there was absolutely no substance to the plot or characterization here.


Tirek is a cliche Teen punk from a rich family, he has no motivation, no reason to be evil except he's a douche. There's no reason for his being evil here except he's a punk, and not even a GOOD punk. He's not an infant terrible, he's just an ass.

Like, if his father was shown to actually be a jerk, maybe I could get behind him turning to evil because he feels like his father hates him. But the only reason we see for Tirek's father to be upset at him is that Tirek is an ass.

There's no abuse or emotional distress here or Showing that His father only cares about his kingdom or anything. Its just "Tirek is being a punk kid and he really shouldn't be doing that". The only "bad" thing he does is correctly state that he thinks that Tirek is plotting against him.



Honestly, this felt like half of a comic. We find out facts about where Tirek and Scorpan are FROM, but nothing about THEM, yeah?

This thing is bland as hell. Its not even like the reflections of cattle rustler arc where you can dislike it and remember it because of that, its just horribly forgettable.





really dissapointed her, after the Sombra one showed me a good and emotional look at him and his past, this fiendship is magic is a huge letdown.




Hell, I'd have been happy if his mentor was foreboding and came off as a bigger bad that was trapped off in perpetuity in that mine, but he honestly didn't seem more than a Bit villain. (The "I'm trapped!" part made me laugh at how it made him come off as an elderly person at an old folks home who needs assistance with everything)

I need lots and lots of "fan art" of Queen Haydon. For research.

>>36793741
Here's the story: Once upon a time, Tirek was a bellend.

The end.

>>36793756

Yeah, it didn't even HAVE an ending. It just had Tirek go "I may be grounded NOW, but I will destroy everyone SOMEDAY!"

>>36793748

Sorry man, there is no porn of her, as it seems Bronies have finally found their self control for once.

Which is nice to hear after the deluge of porn that the premier brought (Seriously, WTF, half the starlight glimmer was porn)

>>36793759
That's fucking bullshit, King Asspenetration had porn of him before the sun was down, yet Queen Hottie is allowed to remain pure? NO JUSTICE!

>>36793759
Just filter that stuff.

>>36793760
To be fair, he had hooves. So that's one thing in his favor.

>>36793760
Who, Sombra? That's because his horn looks like a Daedric strapon. His design invited r34 even more than Cloudchaser and Flitter.

>>36793759
Boooo. She needs a pile of "fan art" immediately, I really like her design. Would love to see what she looks like under that dress. You know, like a character sheet.

I chuckled.

>>36793764
No, I mean King Aspen from the Nazi Hippies arc.

>>36793761

No I don't mind seeing porn; I in fact have found several good images due to having my filter off (You'd be amazed at how many "good" images you can find that just need to be edited, like this one: WTF someone thought it needed a horse vag and ponut staring you in the face is beyond me)


I just object to the misuse of time and effort instead of making Cool or funny fanart instead

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>>36793759
>>36793760
>>36793764
If anyone is getting the porn piled on, it's that "Double Diamond" stallion, who seems to have become the new Braeburn overnight. Seriously, tons and tons of porn of him.

Last edited at Wed, Apr 8th, 2015 17:16

>>36793778
Eh, I haven't searched much for him. I absolutely hated his voice, and I didn't care for him much. Party favor is my favorite.

Looks like we've got an extended preview of #3 early.

>>36793820
Oh my god.

They're not even disguising themselves.

Did they go to the same school of villainy as Well-to-do?

>>36793819
so this mean that canterlot on the old ages (between equestria being discover and celestia ruling) was greek theme?

even it have being stablish that pegasis was the one which had the greek theme?

meh, i think the point is to show "it was long long ago" with out putting ponies into the flinstones scenario next to dinosaurs, and that was the priority before being consistant

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>>36793824
Apparently in olden times in Equestria everyone was just cool with ugly floating fishy-horses.

In other news, someone finally drew some fan art of Haydon. And she's got a cutie booty.

>>36793820
this villains glow around fucking music competitons.

it isnt like they suck out people dry with music, they have to be on a friking competition.

>>36793824
dont be surprised if they use trench coats later when they enter the competition.

>>36793824
Presumably the sirens' species isn't considered evil, or at least the sirens and their abilities aren't well known, so there wouldn't be anything wrong with going in as they are. And from what was seen in the movie, unless you've got immunity due to EoH magic, you wouldn't normally know you were brainwashed and drained or that anyone was acting weird, so ponies might still not suspect that they were under some spell to begin with if asked, assuming anyone did try and investigate what could be seen as just ponies getting into squabbles.

>>36793831
Competitions help ensure that they've got a large crowd, and it's a venue that they can sign up for instead of having to set one up themselves.

>>36793832
it coulsnt be just a party, or anything else, but a competition, lucky it isnt about rock and roll.

on any case, wonder if there is going to be any reference to orfeo or something, even if it a 1 shot on the background.

i mean, you have your complete greek theme, with a music setting. and you are not going to make an orfeo reference?

maybe it is a dumb idea

>>36793835
>it coulsnt be just a party, or anything else, but a competition
Well the aesthetics are heavily referencing ancient Greece, and Greece did like its competitions including music competitions.

>>36793836
just like highschool girls too.
and probably where ever they go

I do find it pretty amusing that these dastardly villains went from attempting to feed on the magical powers of conflict of the seat of power of pony civilization to... A high school filled with human teenage versions of characters that exist a podunk town in the Equestrian universe.

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>>36793844
Well yeah...that was their punishment.

>>36793846
That was all of our punishment...

>>36793746
at least he was hot

>>36793844
>>36793846
>>36793847

>>36793844
Sunset Shimmer went the same way.

>>36793844

Given their personalities in the comic, I wouldn't put them up there as "master super villains". They really come off as being low on the intelligence and not really Uber villains like Tirek or Chrysalis.



>>36793819


Gotta say, not much of a fan of the Greek feel. One of the things I liked most about the art of the series was how each race had their own thing; I would much rather have had the city look like a ye old English camelot style place.


>>36793820
>>36793819

So far, the comics not really improving itself. The dazzles are just... off. They don't really come off as very funny, nor threatening, which leaves them without an appeal.

>>36793832
Y'now, if villages all across the the countryside fell into complete anarchy and chaos, and a trio of colorful hippocampi were spotted in each one of the towns, maybe that'd raise some suspicion.

Each page makes me think more and more that Starswirl caught them not because he was a wise mage master, but because the Dazzlings are fucking morons.

>>36793858
They might not be "super" villains, but at least they had aspirations.

>>36793861

This does not seem inconsistent with them in rainbow rocks. They had a HUGE advantage in the human world: They had magic and could brainwash people, and no one else had magic.

While in equestria there are all sorts of magical beings that could catch on or outmuscle them, and magic was well know, in the human world "magic" doesn't exist and there's no defense against it.

So they kind of instantly won there; it'd be like Raditz coming to the Human world-- just because he's low tier in DBZ doesn't mean he wouldn't be god here.

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>>36793861
>Y'now, if villages all across the the countryside fell into complete anarchy and chaos
I doubt they went full Discord on the towns. It might have just been disharmony on a small enough scale to not catch too much attention. A whole lot of bickering before things go back to normal.

>>36793858
>Given their personalities in the comic, I wouldn't put them up there as "master super villains". They really come off as being low on the intelligence and not really Uber villains like Tirek or Chrysalis.
that is why they dont worth to kill, and are just trashed to another dimension.

>>36793865
It kinda depends what part of the human world they get to,some places are a bit too deep for their magic to work.

Wait a freaking second! I just noticed something that I passed over before in the story due to him being in the background.

Discord is part of King Vorak's Court? Huh?
So, I gotta wonder then, since Tirek recognized Discord on sight, knew he'd been imprisoned, and that he was a malevolent individual who wanted to take over equestria...


Did discord ever betray king vorak I wonder? Does King vorak have any way to keep Discord in check or is Discord just there for the Schadenfreude?

>>36793907
prob the latter considering who he is :P

>>36793858
>So far, the comics not really improving itself. The dazzles are just... off. They don't really come off as very funny, nor threatening, which leaves them without an appeal.
They could still coast on sex appeal except somehow the writer/artist botched that.

Aria doesn't sound like Aria.

>>36793918

This is pretty much the big issue here with this comic so far. The Dazzlings got by on their personality in RR, not on anything else.

They formed a comedic Trio with Adagio being the mean and overbearing leader, Sonata being this ditzy clutz who was stupid enough to infuriate adagio and act as a foil, and Aria who was crabby and mean and bullied sonata but able to be bossed around in turn by Adagio.

it was kind of like an evil version of the three stooges. But there's really none of that here; Adagio is just this head in the clouds dream seeker, Aria has none of her bullyness and sonata's not even that ditzy.
Really wondering if they get some sort of magical personality alteration because they are NOT like the movie at all.

>>36793931
In the meantime, Sombra, a character that had no personality, had his comic dedicated to giving him personality and backstory.

Weird.

>>36793932
its not weird its gods work

Sombra 4 ever

>>36793932
>>36793933


I don't understand it, the villains I HATE end up getting good backstories in the comics, and the villains I LIKE end up being portrayed horribly.

its like, Wat? Sunset shimmer and Sombra were my least favorite villains by FAR and yet the comics made Sunset's prologue interesting and Sombra's comic made me really want to see him return.

yet the Dazzles have come off as just... THERE, and Tirek is just a punk.

At the current rate Chrysalis is going to end up being the worst of them all >.<
>also, sadly, my original headcanon of chrysalis being the corrupted original princess of the crystal empire has been smashed to pieces :(

>>36793934
>At the current rate Chrysalis is going to end up being the worst of them all >.<
HAR HAR HAR, COOK IS GOING TO WRITE BUG LADY!

ENJOY THE RIDE MOTHERFUCKERS, HOPE SHE GIVES YOU SOMETHING TO "REFLECT" UPON!

>also, sadly, my original headcanon of chrysalis being the corrupted original princess of the crystal empire has been smashed to pieces :(
Well, maybe she still is, the holes in her legs must have originated from somewhere.

>>36793935
>the holes in her legs must have originated from somewhere.
probably came from some fashion style they had during highschool

>>36793935

Given that's a racial trait, doubtful.

Also, Chrysalis is, Strangely enough, one of the characters Cook writes WELL. So I actually am somewhat more at ease here since she was done well in issues 1-4.

>>36793937
Yeah, but those were back when she knew how to write a story that didn't suck.

>Given that's a racial trait, doubtful.
Well, she's the queen, of course that they'd all look like her...

>>36793938

Hey, if that line of reasoning were true we'd have some white skinned changelings by now too!

>>36793946
>Implying that Shining Armor gets to use his dick. Ever.

>>36793957
Hey, shield spells: he brings protection everytime.

>>36793969
Which means no babies.

>>36793973

Well I don't see any princess Skylas yet, do you?

>>36792664

Thinking about the comics recently...
what's everyone's thoughts on the mayor seemingly pushing AJ to be a mayor herself?

That kind of goes into conflict with how the show has set up the "Aj just wants to live at her farm and that's her destiny" thing, and changing your goals in life from your cutie mark being unthinkable.


I rather like the mayor tutoring AJ about leadership and what made her (the mayor) originally want to become one lining up with applejack, but it doesn't really seem to sync up with what cutie marks and destiny have shown so far :/

Wow, I went into the Sombra comic not expecting much but I am SO happy to have been proven wrong. This book was oustanding. It took the show's weakest villain and made him into its most complex, and it gave a bunch of compelling reasons for some of the arbitrary stuff that happens in the season 3 backstory. They even take his lack of a cutie mark, which I'm pretty sure was a design error, and make it a cornerstone of the story.

I mean, the book is obviously setting up a future story arc for the main comic, but it's also just a great comic all by itself. One of the best stories of the entire IDW run, for sure.

Poor Hope, she never once got to see the Faire...

>>36793980
Actually, she did, it's Sombra who didn't.

I did like how the made Sombra sympathetic without making him too much of a tragic villain, he's still a bastard and quite possibly the evilest villain in the show. When he blew up Amore, he also blew any chance that there was still any good inside his heart.

>>36793981

no She didn't. Hope never left Sombra's side: never once. Just as sombra couldn't see the faire, hope never could either, as she was in sombra's hospital room every day for the whole day.

She was a true friend to him, and he was literally the world to her: she never went to the crystal faire because that would have meant leaving sombra alone in pain.





>he's still a bastard

I found him to be drastically more sympathetic and worthy of redemption that Discord EVER was, and far more sympathetic than luna too.

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>>36793982
Eh, Discord was ultimately a rogue who didn't really grasp the concept of empathy rather than a sadistic bastard, and Luna... I'd rather not get into that.

But thing is, neither of them straight up murdered a Princess and betrayed pony kind to resurrect an ancient race of shadow demons, all while gleefully laughing his ass off, and vanished an entire kingdom just to spite one pony.

I found him to be completely beyond redemption by the end of his issue, also because he himself didn't seem to have any further interest in being good, as he completely lost himself to the lust for power and vengeful rage. With Hope most likely dead of old age, whatever slim chance he ever had of redeeming himself are far gone.

>>36793984

But he DIDN'T kill Amore: the story pointed out that, for all that he hated amore for, and for all his evil, he couldn't bring himself to kill her. He himself admitted he couldn't.

he turned her to stone and scattered her to pieces, but she's still alive, not unlike Luna being imprisoned in the moon by celestia.
Similiarly, he could not bring himself to harm Hope, and let her go, knowing full and well that would lead to his defeat.



I think that shows alot more goodness deep down in his heart than you're giving him credit for. And besides, weren't you the one saying amore deserved her fate?

>>36793985
He didn't kill her because he couldn't bring himself to, or because he literally couldn't? Sombra was pretty close to the Crystal Heart and had just recently discovered his powers.

>Similiarly, he could not bring himself to harm Hope, and let her go, knowing full and well that would lead to his defeat.
I don't remember him expecting her to inform Celestia and Luna of Sombra's doing. Maybe he just figured that she couldn't get so far, being in the middle of a fucking snow desert. And he was still losing the last remains of decency that he had in his soul before he went completely nuts.

>And besides, weren't you the one saying amore deserved her fate?
I'm not saying that she deserved it, I'm saying that she brought it upon herself.

It's like somebody being stabbed while walking around a Detroit ghetto covered in gold. Yeah, he didn't deserve it, but come on.

>>36793986
>image

>>36793987
Well, as I said, he was still novice at this evil thing. Maybe he still had some morality left in him, but that went away later.

Because you can't tell me that murdering one pony that you have very good reason to hate is worse than enslaving an entire race of innocent people, forcing them to mine an ancient race of fucking shadow demons, and vanishing them from time and space just to spite one pony who just wanted the best for you.

>far more sympathetic than luna too.
WHOA OKAY HOLD ON THERE. I already made a choice not to read the comics, I didn't think I'd have to pretend they don't exist...

>>36793988

He doesn't view the crystal ponies as innocent. he views them as more or less being a bunch of jerks, due to his upbringing in the Orphanage, and the fact that he learned that their crystal faire was more or less designed to kill those of his race.

He's probably someone drunk on FINALLY having a life of luxury and all the good things in life now; as king he gets the luxury of looking down on others instead of being kicked around





I don't think its that he's just irredeemable, I think its more that he's let things go to his head and more or less overwhelmed with the ability to indulge in everything he's ever wanted in life.

He's not murdering them anyways, his reigns not any worse than Discord's reign was. I 100% think he's redeemable. Most probably, Hope will end up being still alive (somehow) and he'll end up realizing that friendship is more valuable than anything his people could ever offer him.

>>36793990
Eh, I prefer Sombra as somebody who completely lost himself to the darkness within his own heart. I would much rather prefer him going darker and darker in any subsequent appearances, going as so far to cast away his remaining pony traits to gain even more power and become a complete abomination that proceeds to devolve morally and mentally even further, and by the final conflict with him, he basically becomes Giygas.

>>36793991

I rather prefer Anakin Sombrawalker we have going on here; And, much like anakin, He'll need to sacrifice his life to kill the true villain of the story, the dark crystal.




>>36793989

Hey, its actually pretty good! And who knows, maybe Luna's comic when it comes up will do her really sympathetically too.

>>36793992
And I prefer complete unholy monster Sombra.

We kinda reached an impasse.

>>36793993

So it seems we have...

>>36793992
Ahahaha, sorry. But Luna doesn't need your puny comics.

god dammit they better not fuck this one up

>>36793995
>god dammit they better not fuck this one up
Fuck what up? The comics? You don't read them, so what does it matter?

>>36793996
SHH I DIDN'T SAY THAT

I TOTALLY DON'T CARE CAN'T YOU SEE HOW MUCH I DON'T CARE?

>>36793997
Before you get too excited about that, I want to just remind you of one thing.

Reflections.

>>36793998
What's that?

>>36793998

That only hurt celestia.

Luna came out just fine. :p

>>36793999
It's the arc that killed whatever love I had left for Celestia.

>>36794000
Just saying.

It could happen to your favorite character next.

Do you want Rainbow Dash: Other RD?

>>36794001

I actually doubt that more due to the fact that I don't see them dedicating a 4 part arc to RD anytime soon. So I feel 100% safe from that for slightly different reasons.
Hell, the time they tried to make an Applejack "Arc" it ended up being "Twilight is stupid; the plotline" with little to no focus on Applejack to ruin her!




Though, that being said, the Applejack FF WAS INCREDIBLE in exploring applejack's character. So that gives me alot of hope for None katie cook writers.

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>>36794001
>It's the arc that killed whatever love I had left for Celestia.
Oh, you mean "Friendship is Magic, Part 1"? I thought its other title was "Mare in the Moon", not Reflections.

>>36794002
Well, it wouldn't have the same effect anyways. The thing about Reflections is that this is it, this is the serious story that Celestia participates in where she's the major focus. That's all that she's ever getting.

Rainbow Dash or Applejack? They'll have more episodes, fuck, 1,2,3 Testing Testing was fucking amazing. Celestia is never going to be more than an asset for the stories of other characters. Her stories never told, her feelings never explored.

>>36794003
That was the episode that got me Started on Celestia (Well, the second episode, not the first).

Remember how much I gushed over her a year or so back? Yeah, now think about the fact that I can no longer do that, and it's because of this comic.

It's that bad.

Last edited at Fri, Apr 10th, 2015 23:55

>>36794004
>Remember how much I gushed over her a year or so back?
Wasn't here m8.

>>36794005
Alright, well, take this post of yours:>>36793995
Multiply it by a dozen. And have it be about Celestia.

You had me in a nutshell.

>>36794004

Alright, that is a fair, fair argument there. I can see your point that there might not be another arc dedicated to her for a while.



but she'll still get friends forevers, right?

>>36794007
1. Maybe in two years.

2. It'll probably be shit, Friends Forever is pretty hit and miss.

>>36794008

True, but its more consistently good than the mane comics.

Dash/Trixie--good.
AJ/mayor---good
Babs/Rarity---good
Twilight/pinkie---Good
Luna/pinkie---Good
Luna/Spike---I AT LEAST THINK ITS GOOD
Spike/Celestia--- Good



Sure, there's some bad ones like FF1, and the Spitfire/Dash one (Ugh...), but its much more consistently good IMO.

They need to fire Fosgit though, seriously ruins everything he touches artwise.

>>36793981
Yeah, it's nice that they give him some difficult circumstances but always make it clear that it's his choice to go full evil. I mean, making the kingdom vanish for a thousand years just to spite the mare who was his only friend? That is CRUEL.

I just don't see him as that evil in light of this comic. I think he's a villain and he's made the wrong decisions, but I see him as fully redeemable, and not this unholy monster without any positive traits left.



You know... Ironically, these last 2 fiendship is magic comics have made me hope this is ONGOING after these first 5 comics.
because I really want to see an arc FINISHING Tirek's story, and I want to see a Story following up with sombra (though That could be a "normal" story plotline too.)

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>>36794222
>You know... Ironically, these last 2 fiendship is magic comics have made me hope this is ONGOING after these first 5 comics.
It's not. We've already gotten the next two months' soliciations, and no Fiendship is Magic. It's a special event series, hence why it's been a weekly title instead of a monthly one.

>>36794228

I mean that sales will convince them to restart it later on down the line.

i am fully aware that, as currently planned, its just a special event. but Sales and popularity can swing things in business sometimes.

>>36794230
Wasn't the original Marvel Transformers comic series supposed to be a 4-issue thing?