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No. 36793751
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  Twilight Sparkle and Starlight Glimmer Discussion

Similarities:

1. Similar Names: A sparkling twilight and a glimmering starlight are very similar scenes

2. Same talents: Both ponies studied magic for years, and appear to have similar cutiemarks

3. Same mission: Twilight Sparkle wants to spread friendship and harmony all across Equestria. Starlight Glimmer wanted to spread friendship and harmony all across Equestria

Differences:

1. Twilight Sparkle created harmony by realizing she was different, and that everypony was the same as her in their different-ness, and this made everypony both equal (to her) and special

Starlight Glimmer created harmony by realizing she was different, and that nopony was the same as her in their different-ness, and this made everypony unequal (to her) and unspecial

tldr: Starlight Glimmer is what Twilight Sparkle would have become had she never made any friends
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>> No. 36793753
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Yeah, we all figured this a long while ago.
>> No. 36793827
totally subtle and not played out
>> No. 36793854
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I think the writers just can't think of a name for anymore unicorn characters that isnt a play off of Twilight Sparkle.
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>>36793854

well, I think they specifically wanted an evil opposite of Twilight for this episode to contrast her new title as the princess of friendship.


But yes, it is getting very, very tiring. You don't make a billion Evil twins of one character, it gets redundant (look at how Metal sonic more or less got forgotten about when shadow showed up for example and his popularity dropped)
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>>36793860
>(look at how Metal sonic more or less got forgotten about when shadow showed up for example and his popularity dropped)
He doesn't seem that forgotten. He appeared in a few side series games before SA2 like Knuckles Chaotix and Sonic the Fighters, but his only role in a main game was in Sonic CD. Right after SA2, he's the main villain of Sonic Heroes, showed up in Sonic Generations as a rival like Shadow, is a main villain in Sonic 4, and also appeared in spinoff games like Sonic Rivals and Sonic Boom.
>> No. 36793866
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  >>36793863

No one really paid much attention to sonic heroes events due to being a bit of a bomb of a game, and he wasn't really a very compelling part of the plot. If anything, that game did more damage to his popularity than helped as he fell on his face, making people less likely to want to see him back.


Sonic generations they pretty much were just redoing every single big nostalgia event and battle of the series so far, so he more or less had to show up. (Still pissed that the ark fight wasn't in it)
>> No. 36793868
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  >>36793866
>(Still pissed that the ark fight wasn't in it)
Yes it was?
>> No. 36793870
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  >>36793868

Ark fight. Against the Bio-lizard merged with the ark. (the final hazard)
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>>36793870
Well logistically, I don't see how a battle in space would work transitioning to using regular Sonic, unlike against Perfect Chaos which was done over water and broken streets (with Perfect Chaos in my opinion being more iconic of the Dreamcast era due to it being right in the intro of SA1). Plus they already had the Shadow fight, so another SA2 boss would just be favoring SA2 too much.
>> No. 36793872
>>36793871
Honestly, I think you should have gone Super Sonic in all Boss Battles.

And in the final battle, both Sonics go Hyper Sonic.
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>>36793872
But you aren't given any rings in the Death Egg Zone. You couldn't use Super Sonic against the Death Egg Robot. It'd be too easy.

Last edited at Thu, Apr 9th, 2015 18:56

>> No. 36793875
>>36793873
Then replace the Death Egg Robot with the Doomsday Zone.
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>>36793875
Like Perfect Chaos is probably more iconic than Final Hazard, Death Egg Robot was probably considered more iconic than Doomsday Zone, though it'd probably be more nostalgic to use if they hadn't reused it in Sonic 4 Episode 1.
>> No. 36793880
>>36793878
Alright, I'll say it as it is: I just want to see Hyper Sonic again.
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>>36793880
The Master Emerald and Angel Island barely get referenced anymore (to the point I was surprised Angel Island was even referenced in the Sonic Boom cartoon), the Super Emeralds are pretty much as obscure as characters like Ray the Squirrel.
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>>36793882

Given how Knuckles personality has been utterly raped by Sonic boom, its more surprising that the master emerald exist at ALL anymore in that continuity.
>> No. 36793885
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I don't know if you watch it, but they never bring up the Master Emerald, just that Knuckles is from Angel Island.

Plus if you want him to stay true to Knuckles original characterization, it is pretty bad, but if you can just accept it as an alternate version of him in a show that's mostly comedic, he tends to be considered one of the highlights.

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>>36793885

I watched up to the 10th episode, but kind of stopped following at that point.

I will admit, there are some funny jokes with him (like him using the chickens as puppets on his hands or his "Oh wait; I can't read" joke). but its just that he was one of my favorite characters in the previous series due to being pretty serious and a good foil to Sonic's laid back attitude (him in sonic chronicles was just awesome).



Its that, rather than trying to make HIM, they more or less made a "in name only" kind of character. It'd be like if they made a reboot of FIM and Twilight was turned into a Ditzy clutz ala sailor moon.






I might actually go and watch it tonight, now that I think about it.
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>>36793886
>It'd be like if they made a reboot of FIM and Twilight was turned into a Ditzy clutz ala sailor moon.
Actually, that's kind of what happened to Blossom going from Powerpuff Girls to Powerpuff Girls Z, if you also added boy crazy to the mix.
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>>36793887

I've never watched PPG Z. I just know everything I've heard about it is.... not good.
>> No. 36793889
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Well while Mojo is the more recurring villain, Him is ultimately the big bad of the show, like how you preferred him over Mojo.

Plus I thought some of the music was good.
>> No. 36793896
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  >>36793888
maybe it was because i have a perverted mind.
but i always thought the transformation are kind of... unecesariely lewd.

i mean, it isnt like they are really lewd, but... it always made me think they didnt had the purest intention.

but nah, is just that im a fucking pervert i guess.

Last edited at Thu, Apr 9th, 2015 21:15

>> No. 36793899
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>> No. 36793902
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  >>36793860

are you talking about sunset shimmer? because she isn't cannon

>>36793896
>>36793899

video related - watch at your own risk
>> No. 36793904
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  >>36793902

Sunset is very much Canon :p
To deny it is madness
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>>36793904
>>36793902
no matter how much we hate equestria girls and sunset shimmer....

like it is hasbro's bussiness... she is pretty much cannon, because there is no reason for them to dont think that way, you know, because they dont really give a fuck.

so stupid shimmer and retarded highschool world is cannon, it doesnt matter how much the staff "pretend" they "dont know what is cannon"

they know, but they are not going to say it is because their job is to lie.

the only thing which is on risk to be "non cannon" is dərpy being name dərpy, because hasbro want people to forget about that forever.

Last edited at Thu, Apr 9th, 2015 22:03

>> No. 36793908
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  >>36793904

let it be noted i refuse to watch equestria girls-related content such that it doesn't destroy my appreciation of real pastel ponies

>>36793906

the equestria girls series is nothing more than a horribly-written hasbro cash-grab, which has no relation whatsoever to the mane equestrian world

do u remember Legend of Zelda for the CDI? nopony considers the Zelda CDI series as having any place in the world of Zelda in spite of being a licensed Zelda game - its place being that of a footnote in the history of Zelda - and the same should be true of Equestria Girls

Furthermore, as i have stated previously, equestria girls series fails on multiple friendship factors not to mention failing across the board on more general and widely-accepted factors, such as storytelling, art, dialogue, and so on...

not even sure y some people still think otherwise

Last edited at Thu, Apr 9th, 2015 22:16

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>>36793908

Except the CDI games were only "licensed" zelda games due to a legal obligation, nothing more. Nintendo in no way shape or form wanted them made they just had legal obligations to the phillips company to let them have them made.

The equestria girls series are all intentionally created by hasbro with full intent to promote and distribute them to the fullest of their abilities.
>> No. 36793910
>>36793909

they just did it to compete with the monster high dolls and to tap into the creepy market - it's basically a series made to sell toys, and therefore is not canon, among other reasons

and im just going to assume those are real things in the image and not just eqg dolls' heads stuck on pony bodies, because i believe hasbro would do something like that
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>>36793908
>let it be noted i refuse to watch equestria girls-related content such that it doesn't destroy my appreciation of real pastel ponies
>Furthermore, as i have stated previously, equestria girls series fails on multiple friendship factors not to mention failing across the board on more general and widely-accepted factors, such as storytelling, art, dialogue, and so on...
>not even sure y some people still think otherwise
Might be some people actually watched it, which you stated you refused to do, and found qualities in it to like instead of just saying they're bad without watching it?

>>36793910
>it's basically a series made to sell toys, and therefore is not canon
That's basically the show, and a lot of other Hasbro stuff. They make content in other media, and make toys based off of that.

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>> No. 36793912
>>36793911

that's fine, but i have higher standards
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>>36793910

While I cannot defend Equestria girls 1 (Seriously, one of the WORST things ever to be made by the team), I think that RR shows there's still some potential there.


And, I believe you know this already, but no, those are not the real toys ;p
>> No. 36793914
>>36793908
Nintendo denny Zelda CDI exist and they are ashame of it.

Hasbro love people to think on Equestria Girls when people think on MLP.

and they do stuff like keep making sunset shimmer ponies, to be the eternal reminder.

So it doesnt matter what the staff say, it is cannon for hasbro, that is why you have flash sentry appearing on Season 4, to make Meghan sound like a lier. i would prefer if she was just more honest, instead of being lying so people hear what they want to hear.

in other words, we are fuck.

>>36793911
i think they make the media base on the toys. saying htey make the toys made based off the show is kind of wrong.
>> No. 36793970
>>36793914
They never really seemed to have much of a definite plan besides steal Faust's ideas.
>> No. 36793972
>>36793970
>>36793970
>steal Faust's ideas.
how making highschool girls and princesses is stealing faust ideas?
>> No. 36793974
>>36793972
They're certainly shitting on them.
>> No. 36794288
>>36793904
this is the reason Sunset Shimmer is my favorite character as good as the mane six are THIS! This is a character I can get behind! considering Phoenixes are my favorite mythological creature and Sunset's redemption is just one big ass Phoenix Metaphor there is ABSOLUTELY no fucking reason why I can dislike Sunset
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>>36794288
what about she being a shallow tool which arc is faster than sanic
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