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36794017 No. 36794017
This thread is meant for discussing impressions on episode 503, Castle Sweet Castle, written by Joanna Lewis & Kristine Songco, during and after it airs.

Be mindful of saying spoilers before they show up on TV. Until then, keep that sort of stuff in the Anticipation Thread.
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>> No. 36794018
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Also, it's airing at 11:30 according to the TV schedule on DF's site.
>> No. 36794019
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Soon
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Sticky.
>> No. 36794026
Welcome back for a moment weird Twilight. You seem weird being weird again...
>> No. 36794027
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Hm...competing with SS for "shortest intro scene".
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And there we go, our first "PINKIE JOKE TIIIIIIIME!" of the season.
>> No. 36794031
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Yeah, RD's singing here just sounds really weird. Like it's autotuned or something.
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Aaaand the stream is lagging.
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>Fluttershy driving the plot
yes, gimmi
>> No. 36794034
Okay, so I've wanted a RD song for a while. I'm not sure I want it anymore.
>> No. 36794035
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Demonio was right, RD...just marry the word "Awesome" already and be done with it.
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Aaaand DF is still showing commercials for the premiere
>> No. 36794037
The songs feel like time-sucking distractions of "we didn't have enough to write about, look over here a song!" than a special treat sprinkled into a couple episodes...
>> No. 36794038
>>36794037
I think there's pressure to include songs in every episode.
>> No. 36794039
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>>36794038
Well there's only 15 songs according to the staff, so...not every episode apparently.
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Aaand there's the "fan favorite".
>> No. 36794041
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So is everyone just going to start being an asshole to each other for no reason now?
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Wait, sunset? Wasn't it looking like midday in the previous scene?
>> No. 36794043
So yeah, not really feeling this one.
Even with the extremely forced feels.

I feel more feels with Steven Universe. And I don't even like Steven Universe.
>> No. 36794044
Remember, whenever someone calls mlp a little girls show, remind them that hair regrowth shit is advertized during it.
>> No. 36794045
Captain America does not like being a hide away friend.
>> No. 36794046
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>>36794044
The channel is "Discovery FAMILY".

>>36794045
I'll never understand why there are so many animal-themed toys and products advertised on this channel.

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>> No. 36794047
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And the meh song continues.
>> No. 36794048
Being made from the branches of the old library is going to be a plot point later, isn't it?

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>> No. 36794049
Well, I liked it.
>> No. 36794050
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Eh, not great, but not too bad either, I guess.

+Some decent continuity I suppose, even if it was just mentions

~"Fan favorite" BG pony appearing out of nowhere, but thankfully it was only once
~The "feels" did feel...a bit forced.

-More awkwardness from Spike...this kind of joke is pretty stale. How many times have they used it now?
-Other 5 suddenly being assholes to each other for no reason. I mean, they did heavily imply that they didn't really like each others' additions, but not to the point of getting pissy over it.
-Song was pretty weak. Sounded too much like EQG's style of pop songs. Do not want.

And of course:
-Pinkie still being screechy and lolrandumb and over-acting for comic relief.
>> No. 36794052
>you know what this castle needs, more crystals
>> No. 36794053
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>>36794052
And how did they get all those pictures from past memories?

WHAT SORCERY IS THIS?
>> No. 36794054
>>36794053
That's an excellent question.
>> No. 36794055
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>>36794050
>"Fan favorite" BG pony appearing out of nowhere, but thankfully it was only once
It's that joke about spa masseurs, where one of them is a large muscley person who's likely going to be rough. The setting of the joke and the choice of character to go with the joke seemed appropriate.

>More awkwardness from Spike...this kind of joke is pretty stale. How many times have they used it now?
Awkwardness is usually common in setups where a character is trying to stall.

>Other 5 suddenly being assholes to each other for no reason. I mean, they did heavily imply that they didn't really like each others' additions, but not to the point of getting pissy over it.
Having to remove some of their own decorations and some removing each others, along with the stress of trying to finish up their work in general, probably contributed to it.

>Pinkie still being screechy and lolrandumb and over-acting for comic relief.
What parts specifically?
>> No. 36794056
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Season 4 starts with a 2 part premiere continuing pretty directly off the previous season's ending, 3rd episode is about a castle.
Season 5 starts with a 2 part premiere continuing pretty directly off the previous season's ending, 3rd episode is about a castle.

Hmmm....

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>> No. 36794057
Soooo is the castle the towns new Library? Or at least a room of it. Will all of ponyville have to go there to get their books?
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>>36794056
Hmmm!
>> No. 36794059
>>36794053
Borrowed Celestia's flat screens.

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>> No. 36794060
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>>36794055
>Awkwardness is usually common in setups where a character is trying to stall.

Point was that the joke is kinda stale and overused at this point.

>Having to remove some of their own decorations and some removing each others, along with the stress of trying to finish up their work in general, probably contributed to it.

It was still really sudden. Going from a sarcastic trying-not-to-insult tone to a really mad-and-pissy tone was really strange.

>What parts specifically?
A lot of them.

Not all, but there were at least four or five moments that had the "making a joke or being over-the-top or screeching for the sake of comic relief" feeling to them.

RD was also slightly exaggerated, how she kept bragging and getting others to glare at her.

Rarity a bit as well, but...not really too exaggerated or flanderized. Only a little bit.

So...yeah, I guess I'm still wary of these two new writers. They got the other characters right, but Pinkie is still problematic, RD less so, and Rarity even less so.

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>>36794060
>Not all, but there were at least four or five moments that had the "making a joke or being over-the-top or screeching for the sake of comic relief" feeling to them.
What moments specifically?
>> No. 36794063
>>36794060
>>36794062

Yeah I'm drawing a blank on them. They pretty much all sounded fine, maybe one or two edging in on screech or "over the top joke" buuuuut that's really it. If this ep. is the norm for Pinkie, she's going to be very fine this season.
>> No. 36794064
>>36794057
What books? They were destroyed.

Countless priceless tomes gone forever.

>>36794063
"Whaaaaaaat? It's not my fault I hid them so well"
>> No. 36794065
>>36794064

Was that line screechy? It didn't sound like it from what I remember, at least no worse than Pinkie saying "Whaaaat, I'm hungry!" In the first S5 ep.
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>>36794064
Celestia did send over a large amount of books in RR.
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>>36794062
"I didn't know you could echo!"
"'...I was counting on you! Some friends you are!' and we'll be like 'waahhaaaahaaahaa'" (Also this face<)
"Remember the time when it got blewed up to smithereens?"

That's all in a 4 minute span so
>> No. 36794068
>>36794066

How dare you insinuate that RR is canon.
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>>36794062
-"Measuring cup in the batter"
-That cake thing towards the end of the episode
-Screeching and freaking out about whatever it was, not being able to...yeah I don't remember exactly what she said, but the scene was focusing on her screeching and freaking out

And these too >>36794067

A lot of them were borderline "comic relief joke/screeching".

>>36794063
And if this episode is the norm for Pinkie, she's still going to be obnoxious. Not "FV obnoxious" or "3rd act of Bats! obnoxious", but still obnoxious.

I'd rather her silliness-norm be how she was written in the first two episodes.

Though, from my experience with this show, new writers tend to exaggerate the characters, so...hopefully other writers will write her better.

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>> No. 36794071
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Also the song sounded autotuned for a couple of lines to me, did anyone else hear that or was that just me?
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>>36794071
Yeah, RD's singing sounded really autotune-ish.

Which is strange considering that the VA has sung a bunch of songs in LPS and sounded fine in each of them.

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>> No. 36794073
You know what Twilight didn't do this episode? Come in at the end, solve everything for her idiot friends, and then give everyone a smug ass-lecture about friendship.
>> No. 36794074
>>36794071
>>36794072

Makes sense. RD's VA isn't a very good singer so she'd need all the help she can get.
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>>36794074
>isn't a very good singer

That's why she's lead singer in a successful band, right?

All of her songs in LPS sounded fine. Not sure why she sounds odd here.
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>>36794072
RBD's first line was definitely the most obvious example, but I think it was a style choice for the song, re-listening to see if I hear the second bit...
Yeah, AJ has an autotuned bit with a solo "Let's all work together" line, so I think it's just a choice they made vs any necessity.

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Look at that horse sleeping she's so cute

I think it was a solid, cute episode. I liked most of the gags. They weren't gut-bustingly funny or huge except for the Snowflake appearance holy fuck was totally unexpected but perfect. but they contributed to making the episode just feel laid-back and charmingly cute. Pinkie may have bordered on screechy pie but for the most part she was fine. The song was catchy and dashtastic seriously her voice was fine guys It's also cool that they acknowledged that the Library was Spike's home too because it hadn't actually crossed my mind before might be because I don't really care about Spike but whatever and while I didn't have any feels I didn't mind because I wasn't expecting this to be a heavy-hitter. The chandelier is pretty spiffy too.

The castle is still uuuuuuuugly as fuck tho.

8/10
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>>36794056
Very interesting.
>> No. 36794080
>>36794078

Yep I'll say this was my general reaction to the episode.

Pretty good all around.

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>>36794067
>>36794069
Is there supposed to be a problem even when she just makes a regular joke? Like I might have to rewatch, but I didn't think "I didn't know you could echo!" was delivered that weirdly. For the measuring spoon in the batter thing (which itself kind of made me think of the hot sauce drink joke from the first episode), the setup was delivered in context, since it was brought up as part of a natural conversation over how Pinkie made the pancakes that the others were a part of and was used at a point to transition from talking about pancakes to Twilight. Pinkie coughing up the spoon was just delivery.

And Pinkie is the one of the mane six meant to help supply comedy relief, so I can see why there might be discontent if a joke isn't funny, but I always get the impression from you Nostalgia that you don't like it when Pinkie makes jokes in general when it is expected from her to slip some in.
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>>36794081
>And Pinkie is the one of the main six meant to help supply comedy relief

And that's kind of the problem I have with her nowadays. In a lot of episodes, she feels less like a character and more like she's just there to make jokes and act ridiculous for comic relief.

Contrast her with Minka from LPS, who is also wild and crazy and a bit screechy, but ISN'T making jokes and acting crazy all the time. That's what I want from Pinkie. A character that is silly and cartoony, but still a character, not just a joke machine.

Also, compare her characterization in this episode to her characterization in the previous episode. In "Cutie Markless", she was a bit nutty and silly at times, but to a much lesser degree than in this episode. See what I mean?

>so I can see why there might be discontent if a joke isn't funny, but I always get the impression from you Nostalgia that you don't like it when Pinkie makes jokes in general when it is expected from her to slip some in

It's a combination, I suppose. I don't really find Pinkie funny (nor FIM in general; mildly amusing but not laugh-out-loud funny), so if her jokes are actually relevant to what's going on, I don't particularly mind, but if it comes off as joking and screeching for comic relief, and/or stopping the scene just for her to make a joke, it's really jarring and annoying.
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I remember why I don't like making gifs again.
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>>36794082
>In a lot of episodes, she feels less like a character and more like she's just there to make jokes and act ridiculous for comic relief.
Well a lot of episodes have characters who don't really contribute anything to the plot, even if they still have incidental dialogue. Like IAEBB, both Pinkie and Applejack aren't really necessary, but Pinkie does wind up contributing something to the episode with her dialogue containing humor, even if it doesn't contribute to the plot.

And though Pinkie's dialogue tends to always be punched up with humor, it doesn't mean in some episodes that even though she's joking she isn't still acting and reacting to the situation. Like you mentioned the cake before, and while she does make a joke about it being a mystery what the ingredients are, take that bit of punched up dialogue out and it's still her wanting to do something to celebrate the castle's redecoration. It's just the way her character expresses that.

>Also, compare her characterization in this episode to her characterization in the previous episode. In "Cutie Markless", she was a bit nutty and silly at times, but to a much lesser degree than in this episode. See what I mean?
Cutie Map. And that episode was also less laid-back and had a more serious tone in general.

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>>36794084
>Well a lot of episodes have characters who don't really contribute anything to the plot.

Yeah, but you don't see other characters being exaggerated when they don't add much to the story. Rarity did almost nothing significant to the story of the premiere, and didn't seem any different than usual. Whereas when Pinkie isn't important to the story, she's very clearly exaggerated.

>And though Pinkie's dialogue tends to always be punched up with humor, it doesn't mean in some episodes that even though she's joking she isn't still acting and reacting to the situation.

I didn't say EVERYTHING she did was just joking/random, just a few of them; enough to make it stand out.

>that episode was also less laid-back and had a more serious tone in general.

But still managed to portray her as NOT being over-the-top, for her few bits of silliness.
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>>36794085
>Rarity did almost nothing significant to the story of the premiere, and didn't seem any different than usual
And yet some people did feel that way, like her comments on the clothing and the curtains made them feel like they were exaggerating too much on her fashionable traits due to them being more punched up and humorous.

>But still managed to portray her as NOT being over-the-top, for her few bits of silliness.
Because it was less laid-back and had a more serious tone in general. Even when being silly, for a more serious story it can usually only go up to a point.

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>> No. 36794087
I'm gonna have to sit down and watch this a few times later. I tried to watch it live, and then my dad shows up at the start of act 3, to grab some ladders. Then when it finally got uploaded to Dailymotion, the moment I hit play, my mother calls and starts asking random questions. So when I stop seething with anger at a universe that apparently doesn't want me to watch this episode, I'll give my thoughts. This is the first time I've missed even a single minute of live pony since January 14th 2012.

From what I did see there were some pretty funny jokes, and I wasn't at all impressed with the song. I don't think I'll be adding it to my phone.
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>>36794086
>like her comments on the clothing and the curtains made them feel like they were exaggerating too much on her fashionable traits

A little bit, but not really that much. I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary with her.

>Because it was less laid-back and had a more serious tone in general.

Crystal Empire didn't seem to have a problem portraying Pinkie as random and crazy.

But anyways...can we just leave it at "I hate it when Pinkie's acting/jokes are over the top" ? Don't want to continue cluttering up the thread with my complaining.
>> No. 36794089
This was the episode which was to bring "the feels"?

i dont remember if it was meghan, or a voice actor, but some one said this episode make it cry....

or am i confused?

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>> No. 36794090
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5/10: Some nice little moments, but largely boring.

+ Cute opening (brushie-brushie polecat)!
+ Fluttershy's "Twilight, kindly piss off" routine
+ Sleepy, grumpy, bunny
+ Animals in party hats
+ Rarity's yell > Fluttershy's stare!
+ BULK BICEPS WORKS AT THE SPA! That's adorable
+ RariDash moment! How rare!
+ The little moment of the mane-6-minus-Twi worrying (Dash flying in circles, etc) is a nice touch

- Rarity doll... Kinda creepy. At least it's not a body pillow?
- That song (I hope THIS isn't popular after the lack of love for the premiere's march)
- Applejack treading dirt inside (that's just rude)
- Come on guys, you SAW what Twilight's home was like (though it would be kind of endearing that they try to make her feel at home by surround her with memories of their friendship were it more self-aware)
- Rarity's flirting to get Spike to stall Twilight felt really out of place here...
- Rarity's decorations actually all fit in really well. Putting them all on the same level doesn't pay off...
- Pinkie
- Where in Equestria did they get those screenshots?
- 2 ponies dug up the roots of that massive tree?
- That end scene rather confirms the "should have let Rarity do it" feeling I had (her idea of style matches the castle's idea of style well)
>> No. 36794091
Well, that was, uhn... a lot of... stuff...


...Yeah, this episode was kinda dull. Nothing much really happens in it, it's mostly the Mane Six bickering over what they should do with the castle, which... is not funny, it's not dramatic, it's not anything, it's just a thing that happens. I didn't really have any feels during this episode.

The only thing that makes the episode somewhat enjoyable was Spike, even if they do use the tired trope of "Keeping a person away while they replace the goldfish". I'm just left wondering "Why doesn't he just tell the fucking truth and say 'Twilight, the others need a bit more time, let's hang around the city while they get everything ready'?".

4/7.
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Adorable Plush Captain America is sick of this shit.
When is the real season 5 coming?
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>>36794091
>I'm just left wondering "Why doesn't he just tell the fucking truth and say 'Twilight, the others need a bit more time, let's hang around the city while they get everything ready'?".

Because then they wouldn't be able to write Spike as the buttmonkey.
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>>36794069
>>36794062


On the note of Pinkie pie:

I think its both unfair and fair here criticizing her.


Specifically, I thought she started OUT good. I actually was really liking her at the start. The missing spoon worked well in the scene, and her jokes weren't forced. Her jumping out of nowhere to snag the pancake to eat was funny and a good sightgag.

The issue was LATER, as they approached the mid of the episode, as she began to become more and more screechy and forced, like her screeching "REMEMBER THE TIME IT GOT BLOWN UP?!"


So I feel that she wasn't 100% bad but they needed to reign her in a bit more.

>>36794050



I don't feel the mane six were assholes to each other. It felt perfectly in character to each other, they do vitriolic fighting all the time. Rarity and AJ sniping at each other is a classic part of the show after all.

Though, I actually found fluttershy's passive aggressive sniping at pinky best XD

>>36794017


Overall, alot better than I was expecting actually. Had a really nice feel to it, and was really heartwarming, with some good jokes.

I KNEW the plot point that occured was going to occur the second I saw the preview though; I KNEW IT. The mane six were all thinking about "Me" and not Twilight so I knew off the bat they were going to end up realizing they screwed up the house instead of making it homey.

But luckily that wasn't the MANE plot point and they didn't bring Twilight home to it (I'd been expecting she would have visited the golden oaks library AFTER seeing them screw up the castle). The way they wrapped up the episode was touching.




Certainly better than castlemania, I give it an 8/10. Nothing incredibly special, but still a nice touching episode with a good mane six focus.
Though I kind of wonder if I might have liked it due to twilight having little screen time XD


Anyways, the one thing I do kind of feel underwhelmed by this season is there's so much less promise than Season 4 gave us with plot hooks and whatnot.
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>>36794095
I never said she was "100% bad".
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I wonder if the tree chandelier might wind up being the letters/journal of the season. Like at the end of each episode, when the character's reminiscing about what they learned, we'll wind up looking at one of the crystals with a still shot from the episode.
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>>36794097

That... actually sounds very, very plausible.

>>36794017

Random note but, BLEH, do I hate those kinds of pancakes they were eating. Slathering pancakes in chocolate and whipped cream (or fruit) just ruins pancakes in my mind >.<

They're not a desert people!
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>>36794098
Personally I prefer the crepe type of pancake, and those can be eaten as deserts.
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>>36794097
daww~
Personally, I'm curious as to what exactly those crystals were! I wanna say that Rarity is just good at crystal engraving, but considering how many were on that thing, it's safe to assume that there are plenty of memories up there that Rarity had nothing to do with! Or did they just not crystallize anything that didn't involve the whole crew? Like Fall Weather Friends for example. Pretty sure Rarity wasn't in there, but Twi certainly ways, so I can imagine that making it onto a crystal. How? If Rarity didn't engrave that one, assuming that one exists, then do these crystals really absorb memories? If so, then there are soooo many more things that I'd wanna know, because you could probably pull some crazy bullshit with that kinda tech/magic! Time to load muh headcanon!

>>36794098
> pancakes aren't desert
Yeah but its Pinkie Pie. She could make desert out of beef stew!
>> No. 36794101
>>36794095
Well, Season 4 also fumbled on a lot of those promises, so it's better if the Season stays grounded.

Also, Celestia appeared in this episode! As a still from a previous episode.

...Oh dear god, is this what I was reduced to? To commemorating her on-screen appearances like a Dərpy sightgag?
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>>36794101
At least Celestia actually appeared in S2/S3. And for more than a brief cameo.

>>36794098
>not wanting chocolate chip pancakes

What kind of heathen are you?

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>>36794090
>Rarity doll... Kinda creepy
Yes.
Also -- who makes Rarity plushies? Are there -- others?

>2 ponies dug up the roots of that massive tree?
Two ponies and sixty dozen animals controlled by Fluttershy.
>> No. 36794104
>>36794103
It's less creepy if you imagine that Rarity sleeps with a crummy Spike doll.
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>>36794104
But that's Sweetie's doll.
>> No. 36794106
>>36794105
Maybe she should stop stealing her sister's stuff then.
>> No. 36794107
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How long did they leave that old wrecked library just sitting there? What is this, Fallout 3? No one was like "Hey, why don't we get rid of this old burnt eyesore in the middle of town? It's probably hazardous."

Anyway, another great season 5 episode. Gets about a dozen thumbs up from me.

>>36794057
>>36794064

The castle does have a library, though, they mentioned it right in this episode. A shame that all those other books exploded, but that doesn't mean the town doesn't get to have any books.

>>36794073

Probably another thumbs up, given how much people have been complaining about it.

>>36794100
>Personally, I'm curious as to what exactly those crystals were!

It's magic!
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>>36794107
>Probably another thumbs up, given how much people have been complaining about it.
>how much people have been complaining about it

Er...last I checked, the people crying about "TWILEYCORN OVERFOCUS!" were a vocal minority. Even smaller minority of ones who claim she "saves her idiot friends".
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>>36794108

Maybe I just hear it a lot from one specific person.
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>>36794109
On /pony/ it was really only two people who were vocal in their "twileycorn overfocus" whining. To the point where if Twilight did anything significant in the episode, one or both of them would freak out and cry about how Twilight "hijacked the episode".

Really though, there weren't many instances of real "Twilight overfocus" where she "saves her idiot friends". I can only recall one, and to call it "saving her idiot friends" is a huge stretch.
>> No. 36794112
>>36794087
Finally had 30 minutes to watch the episode uninterrupted.......UNTIL THESE RANDOM FUCKING ADS KEEP PLAYING UNDERNEATH THE AUDIO. FUCK IT. The entire universe is keeping me from watching this fucking episode.

0/10 worst episode ever. Worse than 100 9/11's. If the holocaust happened every 4 years like the Olympics, I would prefer that to this episode just because of the obstacles I've had to go through just to see it.

Maybe tonight after work I'll actually get to watch it.....
>> No. 36794113
>>36794103

Unless they lacquered or laminated those roots (which usually takes days to completely set), the castle quickly infested with bugs and moss.

But then, I imagine Rarity knows a preservation spell or two.
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>>36794112
>not having AdBlock installed
>2015

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>> No. 36794115
>>36794114
>installing anything on a work computer
>> No. 36794116
Youtube embed play button
  >>36794112
What site were you using?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2mdnvu

Last edited at Sat, Apr 11th, 2015 14:13

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>>36794115
I don't think anyone's going to notice if you install AdBlock or uBlock. You can hide the icon.
>> No. 36794118
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And in other news, /mlp/ is currently shitstorming over the fact that the episode was just "okay", and also crying "DAMAGE CONTROL" when Jim tweets about people complaining about the episode being too predictable.

Never change, /mlp/.
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>>36794118

>never change

Is that a new synonym for "die in a fire, you shitbags"?
>> No. 36794121
>>36794116
Ya that fucking site. That fucker right there. Fuck daily motion. Fuck fuck fuck fucking fuck.

>>36794117
ESPN's IT Department disagrees.
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>>36794121
Well I also embedded the episode off of Youtube in that post, so you could try that.

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>>36794120
Nah, it's fun watching them shitstorm over every little thing.
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>>36794121

Don't blame the IT dept. If anyone is to blame, it's the upper management suits who accept money from Microsoft for keeping IE default on all work machines.

An IT guy who even considers not having adblock, noscript or ghostery (with the ghostrank disabled) is a pretty shitty one indeed.
>> No. 36794125
>>36794124
We actually use Chrome now too! So glad to be done with IE.

>>36794122
I might have some time soon to watch. Thanks.
>> No. 36794126
>>36794118
Gonna have to stop you there Jim, while I don't agree with /mlp/, don't use the show's target demograph as an excuse. I fucking hate this idea of "Oh, they're kids, so let's not put any effort in what we're making". Y'now, I know kids have trouble picking out what's crap, but they can pick out things that are good pretty well, and I think it's more prudent to teach them appreciation for great art from an early age.
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Anyone else wish Twilight kept the new 'do?
>> No. 36794128
"Spa Pony" is credited to Tabitha.

Haven't they given the spa twins names yet?
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>>36794126
I don't think he's saying that because it's for kids it doesn't have to be good or that they don't need to put effort. I think he's just bringing up the different ages because some of those criticisms might be influenced by age. Like what we might consider predictable, kids might not because they haven't seen as much TV as we have.

>>36794127
Seems a bit too shonen hero, and doesn't seem fit for Twilight's personality.

>>36794128
I believe they're going with Aloe and Lotus Blossom, based on various merch.
>> No. 36794130
>>36794126
What Jim is saying, and I agree completely, is they make the show for the kids, with them in mind, and present the show they think the kids will like. That integrity should not be compromised for anyone, especially not a tertiary audience. Any "fan pandering" will also be done in a way they think will appeal entirely to the target demo. THEY are what matter, not us. We're guests.
>> No. 36794131
Good stuff. Very feelsy. Who hasn't wanted to kick Angel into a pool of mud? :p Just the right balance between having a necessary sad moment outside the old tree and being so sad it'd put off the original target audience (I'm glad Big Jim is standing up for himself on the predictability too, which is somewhat related - I always liked us being on the sidelines, not the main focus and not "stealing" a show from 7 year old girls).

"Sweet Celestia!" is becoming a trope :p

>>36794089
There were a LOT of feels in these quarters! Tears were shed. YMMV I guess, depending on what touches you (or doesn't)

>>36794090
>Fluttershy's "Twilight, kindly piss off" routine
This description XD

>>36794095
>Specifically, I thought she started OUT good. I actually was really liking her at the start. The missing spoon worked well in the scene, and her jokes weren't forced. Her jumping out of nowhere to snag the pancake to eat was funny and a good sightgag.

>The issue was LATER
Yeah I'd agree with this. It was later on she reverted to season 3 Pinkie. It's just a little jarring after how awesome she was previous ep!

>>36794107
>How long did they leave that old wrecked library just sitting there? What is this, Fallout 3?
I lol'd. I hope it doesn't have a dormant nuke sitting in it!
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>>36794126
>I fucking hate this idea of "Oh, they're kids, so let's not put any effort in what we're making"

Except that's....not what he's saying?

People are whining that the episode is "too predictable" and "not mature enough", not that it's low quality.

FIM is a childrens' show in that aspect. It's not some complex murder mystery show. The stories have been and likely always will be, somewhat predictable.

>>36794130
>Any "fan pandering" will also be done in a way they think will appeal entirely to the target demo. THEY are what matter, not us. We're guests.

We're certainly not guests for the 100th episode, though!
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>>36794126

Recognizing quality is completely different from pulling out subtle cues and references and real depth. There's nothing wrong with a cartoon being "fun and easy to digest". Predictability isn't an automatic mark against the show when its primary feature is gags, songs, and feelbait.
>> No. 36794134
>>36794129
>>36794130
>>36794132
>>36794133
Thing is, it's a slippery slope, you start justifying one thing with "It's a kids show", then you start justifying another one, and another one, and another one...

And then you get to points like "You don't understand, Breadwinners is a kids show".
>> No. 36794135
As I've seen pointed out elsewhere, pretty much everything is predictable. Take something like Doctor Who, you know how it's going to go. It's more about the journey than the destination. Personally I like it being simple and fun
>> No. 36794136
>>36794132
What makes you think that episode will compromise that integrity in any way? They're perfectly within their right and ability to take what we like and present it in a way they think the kids will like, which is what I fully expect and demand.
>> No. 36794137
>>36794135
>thinks
Actually, bad example, under Moffat it's been ludicrously UNpredictable at times. But you get the idea.
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>>36794134
It depends on when it's used, and there are times you could use "it's a kids show" as justification. The criticisms where they aren't acceptable are worth calling it out on, but that's when they use it as a defense against those arguments.
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>>36794134

Okay, for starters, slippery slope arguments are so shitty they're considered a fallacy.

Secondly, the fact that it's a predictable kid's show has been justifiable since episode one, this isn't anything new. When you were watching Ticket Master, were you honestly wondering who Twilight was going to pick to go to the pretty pony ball? Or did you know ahead of time that they'd all get invited because that's the happiest ending?
>> No. 36794140
>>36794139
Oh, I'm not pretending that MLP was ever a bastion of artistic creativity, or that it should explore the implications of life and creation. I just fucking hate that excuse of "It's a kids show", because it can so easily be used to justify crap, and I think show runners should strive to give the best experience possible for kids, rather than just throw in some brightly colored schlock so that they stop pestering their parents for a while.
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>>36794140

I guess the wording he gave was bad, and in that sense he probably shouldn't have said it. He should've just left that idiom off and said "It's supposed to be a fun light experience." That is something that appeals to kids, sure, but it's also something used for adults. South Park's pretty off limits for MLP's target demographic, but it's still definitely just a comedy cartoon with probably even less depth, surprisingly.
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>>36794136
Last I checked, "the kids" didn't come up with the fanon surrounding BG characters, or Dr. Whooves, or dubstep.

E09 seems to have been made completely for the fandom. Of course, yes, it's going to have a "normal" story, but it's going to be chock full of panda rings.
>> No. 36794144
>>36794141
Bitch don't you badmouth South Park.
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>predictable

Oddly, I felt this episode did a better than average job of presenting a problem without an obvious solution, and turning the tree roots into a chandelier was not obvious to me even when they gathered around the Golden Oaks with shovels. Of course I knew that they would ultimately fix things, and that Pinkie would not kill and eat Rainbow Dash, but stories are supposed to be predictable in that sense.
>> No. 36794146
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Doesn't Twilight just look awesome in her new hairstyle?
>> No. 36794147
>>36794142
Oh I'm sure they'll ring us with pandas all day, but of course it'll be in a way that is in line with their philosophy of putting the kids first, and foremost.
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>>36794146
Awesome. Looks like the product of an unholy mating between Cranky's toupee and an anteater.
>> No. 36794149
>>36794146

Not as much as Future Twilight, but still looks nice.
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>>36794149
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Figure I should give my opinions on this one.

Honestly, it was pretty good! Gotta admit, from the synopsis, I knew this one wasn't gunna be very gripping...or even interesting, plotwise, so I went into this one just looking for cute little character moments, and oh boy did I get plenty! From Fluttershy's "would you kindly GTFO" to AJ's "nah, they're just old", most of the jokes landed just right, and the few that didn't were still generally entertaining. I also liked the symbolism with the painting too. The one thing that was actually a good idea, as well as depicting all of them together, ends up being the first thing that gets tossed as they begin bickering. Can't really say much for the song though. It was a montage piece, and those usually aren't that good. It did its job though, so yay.

So overall, I'd give this episode a veryspecialpancake/10

>>36794146
I wish they'd gone all the way with it. Its so strange for her to have that punkish top with her usual back and tail. I can't help but notice that Twilight is messing up her own "design", if you will, as her friends are in the middle of messing up her home. Can't help but wonder if there was a form of symbolism there too, or at least a tangential connection.
>> No. 36794153
I should say though, a thing that I liked that this episode did was that it avoided using a few tired tropes.

Like, when the Mane Six started making the castle look like crap, I then thought "Oh, here we go, now they're going to think that they did a great job, Twilight's going to arrive, and she's going to be afraid to open up and hurt their feelings". But no, they realized right away that they did a shoddy job.

When I saw them "complimenting" eachother's decorum, I thought "Oh, so here we go, they're going to lie to eachother until the ending where Twilight says that she thinks it's crap and they they all learn a lesson and..." And then Spike just pops in, says it's crap, and they immediately realized it.

Then they started to get on eachother's nerves as they removed the furniture, and then I thought "Oh, so now they're going to be at odds until Twilight pops up at the end and teaches them not to be so antagonistic towards eachother and-" Next scene they're fine and realize their mistakes.

Y'now, freaking kudos for not taking the bullshit route. Yeah, nothing much happened in the episode, but I'd rather have nothing than clichè.
>> No. 36794154
>>36794118
why people complain when the episodes are "okay"
i mean, i wouldnt like it, but i wouldnt complain about it.

is when they decide stuff like "every girl want to be a princess" and "we sure are not lying people*cof* we are *cof*", when there can be a problem, and even then it isnt a problem to go and complain to the friking staff.
>> No. 36794158
what does mean saying
"how could any pony awesome say no"?
mean?
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>>36794158
>"how could any pony awesome say no"?
>How could anyone awesome say no?
If you're awesome, then you wouldn't say no, or at least it would be very surprising if you did.

The line was a bit clumsily written.

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>> No. 36794160
>>36794159
thats what i thought it mean,
but i thought i understood wrong the line because im not a native.
>> No. 36794161
Well, after watching the entire episode...

there isnt much to talk about.

it is straight forward to hell, but there isnt anything wrong with it.

so i guess thats it, pinkie pie, she was screachy, but it wasnt that awful,
for example, her line of "remember that time when the library exploded"
that would be a horrible line if twilight was in front of her.
but she wasnt, so it isnt as bad, sure that make her dumb, but hey, is better dumb than a friking bastard which dont give a damn about her friends.
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>>36794102

I hate sweets in general. It usually takes a year for me to completely eat a thing of icecream because I'll only eat like 2 bites every month.

which sadly means it normally gets eaten by others :(

>>36794100


Those crystals were already all over the ceiling before they put up the tree though :/


On a random note, I liked how they kept using the rainbow motif of utilizing the mane six's colors for all the packages and other things throughout the episode.

>>36794108
>>36794107


Well *I* personally think that's a huge problem and a large part of twilgiht's problem and why she's gone into the shit territory lately.

its one reason RR was good was she wasn't this paragon messiah that solved everything, and she didn't get overfocus this episode, which made her SLIGHTLY more bearable.

>>36794131


Yeah. It was kind of funny how pinkie actually seemed to be "talking" instead of screaming last episode. that was nice.

Likewise, in this episode, her jokes seemed to fall into camps of her simply talking, and her screaming. whenever the joke was just her talking, it was good. If she was screaming, it was normally bad.


>>36794146

No.

OH GOD NO. I hated that thing.

>>36794118


Damn, talk about overblowing things. I'll be dissapointed in an "okay" episode, but I won't get ANGRY.

Seriously :/

>>36794113


Fluttershy's command of the insects is all powerful!
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So I just got back from International Tabletop Day over at a local store and was finally able to watch some ponies. It took a moment to gather my thoughts after a first viewing, but here they are.

Overall, I think this a decent episode. I for one am a sucker for feels, and I actually wish they had focused more on the sense of loss of the library, but that's pretty heavy for a children's show, especially for some children that might not have seen all the episodes. So let's go more into detail on what I thought worked and what didn't.

There were lot of comedic moments that I thought really worked... and ironically enough, few came from Pinkie. She was rather annoying this episode, but that seems to be standard. The song was also a bit "meh", but that's bound to happen every now and then. The Snowflake joke made me laugh when it happened. As for the ending, I really loved the moment where the group showed Twilight what they did with the tree. I honestly feel the ending should have been there to give a feeling similar to Sweetie Belle Toils">FWtSBT. Ah well.

The episode was quite charming. The feels could have been stronger and really made this episode one of the best. Not every episode needs to be amazing, however, and I must admit that this was overall rather good.
>> No. 36794170
>>36794017
I did this once or twice. So I'm gonna do it again. This is a play by play review of the episode.

0:05 Ladies and Gentleponies, your newest Princess.. Giving a weasel a bath.

0:06 Why is the pig getting a bath? Don't they need to be muddy?

0:08 Oh ya, get that undercarriage, Twilight. Brush softly now.

0:10 what the hay were they all doing to get this dirty?!

0:12 I know everyone has their preference, but can that bear get a bath before the brushing teeth part?

0:15 Twilight and Fluttershy double teaming a pig butt. Let that image sink in.

0:28 That sound means that the plot card has been triggered.

0:31 Didn't we see this part of Twilight back in Lesson Zero.. an episode that came right after a premiere as well? Is this a trend now?

0:36 Now, I know that Twilight is just panicing for things to do instead of going to her Castle.. But still a part of me couldn't help but think she was trying not to ask if she could help wash Fluttershy.

I apologize for nothing.

0:38 Twilight backhoofing a bunny would be cruel.. but we've seen Angel do worse.

0:42 Yep, it's Lesson Zero Twilight with less crazy. Zero Lite... Can you have a lite nothing? Is that like dividing by zero?

0:49 "Will have my revenge!"

0:51 Theme.. Which I would not count as a sin myself.

1:36 HAH! He looks like a dust bunny now!

1:40 Fluttershy's been hanging out with the rest of the girls too long, she's starting to pick up on their excuse talking.

1:50 On one hand, we know this is Twilight just coming up with excuses to not leave. ON the other.. I could see her doing this even normally.

1:55 Trying too hard, Fluttershy. Come on, you went through two assertive episodes. Go all Dragon Migration on Twilight.

2:05 Does anyone else here that plot sound outside of the show? Like in real life when someone says something that triggers things for you.

2:20 "WIIILLLMMMMAAAAA!"

2:26 Ok, we have confirmation. Aside from a few background scenes where the animators had to stick it in somewhere, can we agree that the castle is at the edge of town?

2:26 Ya, turns out that Twilight isn't a sloppy eater. At least by most pony standards. Unicorns seem to prefer tools to eat with. So update those fanfictions!

3:13 That's how I look after an all night gaming binge and I have to work in the morning.. Minus the mud and plant matter.. That comes after work.

3:54 Dash understands me as a Gamer. Why stick around in a losing game? Would you rather keep losing than leave? Is losing better than what leaving means?

That's sad.

4:25 Pinkie Pie could be a side act at Seaworld.

Also, a neat animation trick. Need something to disappear from a scene? Turn it into a quick gag.

5:17 The main problem here is that Twilight had grown used to the cozyness of a small home and suddenly has this massive castle. The real solution for a princess? STAFF THE PLACE! Put a few guards in every other room, have maids and butlers moving around, invite guests to stay, keep the kitchen cooking and musisians to play songs that flow through the building. Problem solved.

Though that would require playing true to the Princess thing and risking stepping into the territory of politics and economics and Game of Thrones stuff. Fun for adults, not for the kiddies.

5:22 Rarity seems to be dealing with the fact that Pinkie Pie made a point and that her fantasy got a little bit colder.

5:33 Or you can hire a professional at decorating castles. If only you had someone with experience at living in castles who could give a few contacts. Maybe a few thousand years of experience, give or take.

6:09 That was a good call back. Also, a new My Little Face When image.

6:15 Hah, Spike has a Rarity doll. Also, that's how I feel most of the time when my family does breakfast.

6:28 Spike likes going to the Spa. Get to work, fanfiction writers!

6:36 Spike is apparently part chipmonk.

6:45 SONG!

6:53 Nope, still sounds meh. You know, it's ok to have someone's singing voice sound a little different than their actual voice. No metal vocalist actually speaks like they are the Hulk.

7:07 The Brady Bunch!

7:45 WHOA.. We got a look inside RD's home. Lets take notes.

1: Not everything is made of clouds.

2: She has more books.

3: Stairs and railings.

4: Statues and plenty of windows with what seem to be no glass or other coverings.

5: A door.

6: Pillars carrying the greco-Roman theme.

7:Coat of Arms and a vase.

There is a lot to be learned here.

9:05 So apparently that map is a permanent fixture.

9:15 Girls, keep your day jobs.

Lets see how bad this gets.

9:25 Good, we don't have to deal with the idiot ball making them think they did a good job.

9:35 Oh but we get to deal with them thinking everypony else is bad... Alrighty then. Good point to stop and refill my drink.

Alright, lets wrap up the second half.

10:15 Spike providing not only another My Little Face When and a good Gif, BUT wrapping up what we thought of the end result as well.

10:25 This is a great improvement to this plot. They hear someone harshly criticize it, and they accept they did poorly.

10:39 Except for PInkie Pie....

10:47 It looks like Pinkie Pie ate the idiot ball for this episode with the pancakes.

I mean, didn't see go through something similar with Too Many Pinkie Pies?

10:50 Dadgum it, can we please have Fluttershy remember she went through TWO assertiveness developments?

11:03 Rarity, showing great Maternal skills.

11:10 Pinkie Pie is forgiven due to funny.

11:59 Twilight getting the Anime hair treatment.

Side note: Look Eternal Nothingness! More Dragon Ball Z-ness!

12:30 Goddamn it, that was fucking funny.

Also, update your fanfics, Snowflake works at the spa as the token male masseuse.... I see Clop potential there.

12:36 AND IT JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER!

13:20 So it begins.

Honestly, I'm ok with the group break down when Twilight isn't there.. Face it, they became friends ONLY because of Twilight.

13:35 The return of FlutterBitch.

14:03 Honestly, the hairstyle I would have kept throughout the episode.

14:36 Cue da feels.

16:15 HAH!

16:43 Character states the exact thing they did wrong like it was the correct thing to do cliche.

16:46 And a.. rapid resolution.. Nice.

17:52 Humble in defeat Dash.

17:55 Fanfic Update: Spike owns a full sized bed.

18:40 Song reprize and... Wait.. what are they doing?

18:50 Rarity can sew THROUGH gems.

20:00 That.. Is actually really clever.

20:07 Gems used to record images. Recorded from memory with a third person perspective?

20:34 DEM FEELS!

So in the end, each major room got a personal touch from the girls and we get a major feature for the Throne Room. All in all, a good episode.
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Oh yeah! And I thought they used Spike rather well today too.
>> No. 36794173
>>36794170
>There is a lot to be learned here.
Headcanon: Rainbow Dash is actually the wealthiest of the Mane Six, her competitive behavior is something that she developed after feeling like she had it easy in life.
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>>36794170
>There is a lot to be learned here.
We kind of already saw most of that in RiaW and DD.
>> No. 36794176
>>36794050
>"Fan favorite" BG pony appearing out of nowhere, but thankfully it was only once

Who?

>>36794066
Does this confirm that the two stories are connected?

>>36794097
THAT is a great idea.

>>36794107
>How long did they leave that old wrecked library just sitting there? What is this, Fallout 3? No one was like "Hey, why don't we get rid of this old burnt eyesore in the middle of town? It's probably hazardous."

Hey, if you want to be the first one to dig up the town's landmark and the Princess's former home that she is still grieving over, be my guest!

>>36794126
>I fucking hate this idea of "Oh, they're kids, so let's not put any effort in what we're making".

It's not about 'No effort', it's about understanding that kids eat chicken nuggets over Filet Mignon. They are making chicken nuggets, but the most kick ass chicken nuggets that even the most sophisticated adults will want to steal one.

>>36794127
It's some great hair.
>> No. 36794178
>>36794175
Yeah, but it's always nice to get another look at it.

Seriously, RD's digs are fancy, wonder why they are so.

>>36794176
I think he was talking about Bulk Biceps.

Who... now that he has multiple appearances, lines, and personality, I think he can be chalked up to supporting character rather than BG Pony.

>It's not about 'No effort', it's about understanding that kids eat chicken nuggets over Filet Mignon.
Honestly, all chicken nuggets that I've ever ate in my life tasted like fucking shit. And I love chicken.
>> No. 36794179
>>36794176
the muscle pony which i forgot his name.
or at least the staff thinks he is a fan favorite.

that is what they were saying during the episode of Rainbow falls
"a fan favorite pony gets a name"
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>>36794178
>Who... now that he has multiple appearances, lines, and personality, I think he can be chalked up to supporting character rather than BG Pony.

A lot of hoses are like that now, which I think is pretty cool. I like when a show has a strong supporting cast of minor characters that they keep coming back to and reusing, instead of writing up brand new ones every single time they need something.
>> No. 36794181
>>36794178
He's definitely either minor or supporting character. Not background.

And I was using Chicken Nuggets and Filet Mignon as an example. You can replace them with anything that fits the context. Macaroni and cheese vs Roasted duck with raspberry glaze for example.
>> No. 36794182
>>36794179
>that is what they were saying during the episode of Rainbow falls

Sure it wasn't just you?
>> No. 36794183
>>36794180
Though the one-off characters in Season 4 were pretty strong though.
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>>36794182
He was labeled a fan favorite prior to season 4, when Meghan took over the Hub's Twitter and teased that some "fan favorite background character" would get an official name and some screen time.

>>36794176
>Does this confirm that the two stories are connected?
Does it confirm? Not really, there's no hard evidence that it could have only happened if RR story happened, the same way Flash can exist without EqG ever happening.

Is it intended to be a reference? I dunno. One of the guys who works on the show's music made a reference to what happened in RR, but he's not the writer, and it could just be that the writing staff just figured there would be books in the castle along with other things like Twilight and Spike's bed. The writers probably think of the movies as fitting in, but they're not going to have the movies have an affect on what they've written.
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>>36794183

All the more reason to bring them back!

Probably.
>> No. 36794186
Weeks later Twilight opens random door, has confetti cannon go off in her face. "Damn it Pinkie!"
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>>36794017
>They didn't move in.
FINE, I WAS WRONG.

Anyway, great episode. New writers are bronies, methinks, they nailed a lot of what made the mane six so great in this episode. References to things that happened in season 1, even (e.g. the sleepover, Twilight's welcome party).

>>36794170
Good, I was too bushed to do a play-by-play.
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>>36794178
>Who... now that he has multiple appearances, lines, and personality, I think he can be chalked up to supporting character rather than BG Pony.

I still don't really understand how the staff came to know him as the "fan favorite".

Sure, people liked him and thought he was funny when he first appeared, but....never really got the impression that he was anyone's "favorite".

I wouldn't exactly call him a supporting character though, seeing as 2 of the 3 episodes that he has appeared in, he served as a joke and/or background character. He's as much of a "supporting character" as Photo Finish.
>> No. 36794191
>>36794190
Eh, I think you're being pedantic with the terminology there. He's well liked by the fandom. Good enough to call him "fan favorite" in my book.
>> No. 36794192
>>36794189
they move in, in spirit, because each one will have a room which have something of hers.
>> No. 36794193
>>36794182
im sure, it was meghan herself the one which call her like that.

that is why for some seconds, people thought dərpy could get her official name, because meghan was teasing too that dərpy would be back.

but later we thought "well, they giving dərpy a name would be fucking stupid, so that probably isnt the case"

and at the end was bulk bicept.
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>>36794192
Yeah, I was kind of thinking that. Not to mention having the new chandelier have memories of them dangling over it.

The castle was certainly big enough for them to all take a room if they wanted. I almost thought it was going to happen when they started hinting at making new memories there.

I guess it already is sort of the mane six clubhouse now.

For a second there, I thought they were going to try to flood the castle with books. But that wouldn't work on account of how it's supposed to be a friendship castle, not a library. At best, they could have made the entry foyer the new library.

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>>36794191
"Well liked" and "Favorite" are two different things. At least, to me.

"Fan favorites" are Dərpy, Lyra/Bonbon, Vinyl Scratch, etc. You know, the "popular" background characters.

Whatshisface doesn't really come off as being a "favorite" to me. Nowhere near as popular as the other "popular" BG characters. Liked, but not a "favorite".
>> No. 36794196
>>36794194
>I guess it already is sort of the mane six clubhouse now.
that is how the staff like to call it.
instead of just calling it for what it is, shallow product placement
ok ok, this time im just joking... partialy, im not as harsh as i may sound"
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>>36794178

Its the pegasi asthetic.

RD's home is modeled after the "traditional"
Pegasi asthetic of old Greek architecture. You know, pillars, statues, the classic "Olympus" look.

As such, her house looks SNAZZY in a regal manner. Comparatively, its not a very "homey" looking place though, kind of like comparing hardwood floors to carpet.



>>36794190

Yeah, I never could understand people liking him that much. He's REALLY freaking one note. All he does is 1. Show up, 2. Look funny, and 3. Scream YEAH!

That's... pretty much all there is to him. Its funny the first time, but that gets a bit old and there's not much room to move him around.
That being said, the thought of him being a Masseuse as his job, despite his massive bulky appearance is something I strangely like.

>>36794176

Filet mignon is not that good of meat IMO, I don't get the appeal of it. It lacks fat and that means it doesn't have as much flavor as fattier cuts of meat, even when wrapped in bacon.

The fact that you generally serve it with a sauce I find to just be an abomination. I'll gladly take a Cheaper cut of meat anyday, like Flat iron. Hell, I'd rather take a BURGER over filet mignon. Sure, its tender, but Damnit, you can make most any cut of meat tender if you cook it right.



I'll be with the kids scoffing at filet mignon, I'd gladly take a well cooked piece of chuck (braised that is an INCREDIBLE cut of meat) over filet mignon and beef tenderloin anydays.

>>36794173

Meh, don't buy it.
I do want to see her parents though. They even hung a lampshade on how we've never seen her or Fluttershy's parents in the EQG comic.
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>pic
NO. FUCK you for this line. Just because Fluttershy's character development is leaps and bounds ahead of where it was in season 1, does not mean you can give her any goddamn line you want and have it work.

You want a character who delivers immature, antagonistic sarcasm? Give that shit back to Spike. Don't make Fluttershy the sarcastic one, for god's sake!

>>36794153
Gotta agree with this. This show uses tropes and predictable plots when it wants to, and when it doesn't want to it's perfectly capable of refusing to be weighed down by them. (Of course there are exceptions, most notably SAYS.) This episode just kinda did what the show does.

And it looks like this episode actually didn't get overshadowed by the obligatory LZ/CM "third episode-ness" like I expected. It was, however, less library-focused and more castle-focused than I would have hoped. That might have bumped it up from okay-tier to great-tier, I think.

>bulk biceps is a "fan favorite"
Oh please, he was fuckin forced from the beginning. After the fuckin display that was HF, there can be no integrity when saying "the fans wanted him".
>> No. 36794200
>>36794199
Eh, I think it's in character. She has grown more assertive through the show, and if there's one thing we learned in Magic Duel, is that harming her animal friends is signing your own death warranty.


...Also, am I really the only one here who likes Bulk Biceps?
>> No. 36794201
>>36794200
I loved him in this.
>> No. 36794202
>>36794199
>u want a character who delivers immature, antagonistic sarcasm? Give that shit back to Spike. Don't make Fluttershy the sarcas
i forgot what the line was
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>>36794200
I find him amusing.

>>36794202
>I guess they must not like being scared out of their wits by exploding confetti cannons or something.
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Bulk Biceps was good, but I was too busy squeeing at them giving the spa pony sisters some lines. Sexiest pones. Would spend all my bits buying ultimate mane blowouts from them. No wonder Twilight was so mellow afterward.

>>36794199
>>36794200
I have to agree that nothing gets Fluttershy is a nasty mood quite like dissing her animal friends. Just look what happened in Power Ponies when the villain harmed an insect.

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>>36794200
Nobody is saying "people don't like him"

We're just confused as to why the staff seem to think he's a "favorite", when there are so, so many other BG characters that are infinitely more popular.
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>>36794199
>>36794202
>>36794203
>>36794205


Actually, I was going to say, the ONE pony Fluttershy tends to be a bitch to is pinkie. She seems to be the one pony that will actually get Fluttershy to get into a passive aggressive mode at.


She her and pinkie's bit in Green isn't your color with her rather icy "i'm a year older than you" line. and while she did it to both Rarity and Pinkie, she also tore pinkie a new one in putting your hoof down, plus in the comics fluttershy has given pinkie the death glare a couple times.
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Also, seems like the staff are taking a more or less "if you don't like the show, it doesn't matter, your not the target audience" route with the current /mlp drama.
>> No. 36794209
>>36794208
Jesus Christ this is a PR Nightmare.
>> No. 36794210
>>36794209
....What? A PR Nightmare?

To someone who knows PR, this is a Friday. Give Big Jim a sandwich, a rewording tweet from an anonymous Hasbro/DHX spokesperson and you can clock out for the weekend.

Creating Paid Day One DLC after you publicly denounced the act of creating Paid Day One DLC? THAT is a nightmare.
>> No. 36794211
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Unless you're EA; then its Tuesday.

>>36794209

While I don't agree with /mlp at all and think they're being douches, I gotta say, Jim's kind of been rubbing me more and more as a douche.
>> No. 36794212
>>36794211
He's rubbing me more as a guy how's sick of it. He needs a vacation and a sandwich.

And a program that makes it so hat someone gets to put a pause on his twitter when he gets to this point.
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>>36794208
Honestly, more power to him. People who don't like something and start barking at the creators to make them like it just don't get how entertainment works. He's putting it politely, but the kind of self-gratification addicts who would level those kinds of demands deserve worse.

But that point in juxtapose leveled by that pic seems to be operating under the misunderstanding that "not everybody likes the same thing" is the same thing as "we have a specific target demo and you ain't it." Not at all: the former applies even among viewers in the same target demo.

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>> No. 36794214
>>36794208
hahaha, that is totaly taken the wrong way.

and that is fine. i dont see anything wrong on the staff claiming that

now, if in the future they start claiming how smart they are and how hard core they are because the adult fan base.
then they are doing it wrong.

just like the comic staff, which some times claim their demographic is the brony fan base, but when people hate their comics they claim their point is to sell to the little kids and that is the only important part.

i hasnt sent any hate message to the staff latetly (and the last one was just asking if they throwed celestia to the garbage can), so im innocent of every charge.

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>> No. 36794218
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>>36794211
He's at least said that he took some comments too personally.

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>>36794200
>She has grown more assertive through the show
That wasn't assertive. That was backhanded.

>>36794207
>and while she did it to both Rarity and Pinkie, she also tore pinkie a new one in putting your hoof down
Yes, Unlikeable, the line in today's episode was very reminiscent of PYHD. Which is the type of behavior she had Angel restrain her for. See the problem?
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>>36794219

I'm just pointing out that she's more likely to do it to pinkie than any other of the mane cast and she CAN have slip ups with a character flaw.

Even if you "overcome" a problem with yourself, its possible to have slips now and then, not unlike AJ occasionally slipping into stubbornness.

>>36794218

I just don't like big jim is all from the Tweet's I've read him post before is all.
I tend to ignore that because there's alot more people on the staff who I care about more, but I just tend to find some of his tweets particularly grating is all.



I'll admit that /mlp was baiting him hard and was more at fault than him, easily, but I still just don't care for the guy is all.
>> No. 36794224
>>36794218
>comments from EqD
What?
but thouse should make him happy, get arround on joy, i mean, it isnt going to be like EqD will be full of negative comments, it should be a fountain of happy and joy, with some black dots, then he should say "ok so 90% of the people is happy and there are just some black dots"

>this happen at the end
see, if he did it that way from the start it wouldnt happen
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>>36794219
Fluttershy in PHYD was all about being agressive, and went as far as pushing or throwing ponies around, and calling Rarity and Pinkie's passions worthless. In that scene, it was a passive aggressive comment to point out that her animals don't like the party cannons she put all over the place. A bit rude, but nothing like what happened in PYHD.

>>36794221
It was apparently EqD, not /mlp/ he was talking about.

>>36794224
You know, for all the times people get surprised about negative comments on EqD, I would think by now people would learn that websites can be host to a variety of opinion. Some more dominant than others maybe, but the others can still be found. To keep being surprised of the same thing like some EqD commentators being negative would indicate not learning anything or paying attention to the last time it happened.
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>>36794226
so EqD get spikes of negative comments with out people defending it?

i mean, specially for an episode like this, which pretty much did no much wrong, i mean, it only sin is not being impresive, but that isnt that bad.

it isnt like we get an episode about Twilight raping applejack and then is play for laughts, and then rainbow dash from Equestria Girls comes along and say how that was Awesome.

but it isnt the case, so im confuse.
>> No. 36794231
Does everyone here use trips? Dafuq?
>> No. 36794232
>>36794231
Does that bother you, to be the only faceless thing here?
>> No. 36794234
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Eh, anyways, all this talk of the staff is getting a bit off topic from the episode.
Kind of wonder if Bulk Biceps Permanent job is being a masseuse though, given how he tried out for the wonderbolts.




Like, if you get a special talent and job in life, they've portrayed that as your "one and only" thing in life that you do with ponies NOT leaving that job or role or trying to find another one in life.

But If Bulk's special talent is massaging ponies, and he's Good at that... why's he trying to become a wonderbolt? that's not in anyway related to spa work :/
That's kind of like the FF comic having the mayor almost nudge nudge wink wink at AJ about being thinking about being a mayor herself when AJ has no interest in anything other than farm work.
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>>36794231
More than half, I guess. It's always been that way here.
>> No. 36794237
>>36794231
Get a trip, you scum! You plebeian filth! Your opinions aren't equal to ours until you do!
>> No. 36794238
>>36794234
Honestly, I think his special talent is just pushing himself. He likes to try out new things and use his strength in different ways all the time.
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>>36794232

That tripcode that you wear; if I pull if off, would you die?
>> No. 36794240
>>36794234
I work with the headcanon that Bulk Biceps and Snowflake are twins or at least brothers. Snowflake tries to be like his brother though his talent manifested a different path than his brother.
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>>36794231
Mostly, though we've got some anons here, at least on /pony/. We don't have the same stigma against names here, and we even kind of like getting to know different personalities.

>>36794234
Bulk's special talent is probably more like body building. Him trying out to be a Wonderbolt or being a masseuse is probably more of a sidejob, like how Pinkie's main job is throwing parties but she also helps Sugar Cube Corner.
>> No. 36794242
>>36794239
I would because I would not be me. But something else. A thing without any self and thus, a no-thing.
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>>36794242
...

Goddamnit, you suck at baneposting...
>> No. 36794244
>>36794243
I'm not baneposting. I'm MarkPosting. Bane Baneposts. I MarkPost.
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>>36794244
What do you mark the posts as?
>> No. 36794247
>>36794246
My own.
>> No. 36794248
>>36794247
that doesnt sound really creative....
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>>36794248
Neither is baneposting.
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>>36794249

But at least we have CIA's handsomeness to keep us company.
>> No. 36794253
>>36794249
i guess that is true
>> No. 36794257
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That doesn't work very well for the wonderbolt thing though. I can see having a side job as a masseur, but a WONDERBOLT? that's a huge thing there, that's literally one of the best of the best, a position of high honor and prestige.


it'd be kind of like trying to become an NFL player as your "Side job" when you want to be a chef.
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I wished they fixed the outside tbh. I'm holding out that those roots will take over the castle and make it look like this.
>> No. 36794259
>>36794258
that is not the name of the game and you know it.
it have to keep looking like it does.
until they have to blow it up when twilight get a new castle.
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>>36794257
Or be an NFL star and co-author an advanced piece of mathematical work?

Oh wait.
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>>36794259

Then that one will sink into the swamp. Then she'll build a third, that will burn down, fall over, then sink into the swamp. But the fourth one will stay up.
>> No. 36794267
It wasn't as predictable as I thought it was going to be. I thought Twilight was going to go home to the cluttered decorations and be disgusted and tell her friends that they added what made them feel at home rather than what made her feel at home. I was quite surprised that they managed to work it out on her own!

However, another part that didn't turn out how I expected was the solution to the problem. I was expecting Twilight's friends to have bookcases put everywhere. Hell, when they got round to talking about Twilight's old home, what they talked about most was books! What happened instead seemed needlessly complicated.
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>>36794267

I thought they would stop the song when Applejack started pouring DIRT in the house and yell at her.
>> No. 36794270
>>36794218
Fuck the ungrateful fans. This show is great.
>> No. 36794273
>>36794231

I know right? I came here because I'm sick of /mlp/'s fetish crap. Just learn to ignore the trips and names if you don't like them. Works for me.
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>>36794273
Pretty sure there's a pX setting that forces everyone to appear as Anonymous.

>>36794211
>I gotta say, Jim's kind of been rubbing me more and more as a douche.

Yeah, back at Bronycon 2014 during his panel, he did give off a lot of the same "anti-criticism" vibes that the fandom does, especially when he guilt-tripped people for not liking EQG.
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>>36794267
>what they talked about most was books!
She already has a library in the castle. Plus, Fluttershy was the one who talked a lot about books. Rainbow Dash talked about the memory of when she crashed into books, then Rarity brought up the memory of Applejack, Twilight, and her having a sleepover, Pinkie brought up the memory of when it exploded by mistake, and then Applejack brought up the idea of memories. And it being about memories was even foreshadowed when Spike and Twilight visited the library's remains.
>I really miss this place, Spike. We had so many wonderful memories here.
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this episode started out rough, just like the season premiere, but it turns out it was a good episode, overall unfortunate spike hadn't went on vacation the rest of the season, though - makes me cry every time
>> No. 36794281
>>36794218
I sincerely don't understand what the hay he is talking about. The critical comments were few and far between and people were ardently willing to defend this episode.

I'm honestly surprised people weren't more critical of it, considering that the plot was kind of on the dumb side. The episode really feels like something you would see in early season one, and not in the good way.
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Hey Tree of Harmony, thanks for the swag new castle, but it's really missing something... I know! We'll decorate the central room with the decomposing roots of your distant brethren!
>> No. 36794285
>>36794276
well, what did he expected with highschool girls setting?
We are not going to suck his dick for free... Or are we?
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Don't know if it was just like that because of the time of day, but the new shading on Fluttershy's house looks pretty good compared to how it looked in season 1.
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>>36794276
>>36794285


That's my thing. I can handle good natured counter trolling (larson you magnificient bastard for example), I just find that Jim tends to come off as an arrogant blowhard. Hell, McCarthy comes off as more likeable than him to me, and she's my sworn enemy.


>>36794280

Really? I thought it started out at a good pace. Even though I don't think its an "Incredible" episode, I thought it started out of the gate good, compared to the premier which took about 10 or 15 minutes to get to "good" parts.


Pinkie alone helped to carry the start because she reminded me that, when she IS TREATED WELL, she is pretty good, as she had me chuckling for the first part.
Plus angle being turned into a giant fuzzball was funny.
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I'm seconding people who've said it's nice that the minus-Twi-5 working out the problem without her was good, though them not considering "books everywhere" was odd.

>>36794199
>>36794200
>>36794205
Yeah, if someone had sent my pets into a stampede I wouldn't be happy!
>>36794207
>the ONE pony Fluttershy tends to be a bitch to is pinkie
That's... Kind of interesting! Fluttershy/Pinkie is still one of the 2-pony-focus eps we've not had, isn't it? Would be nice to know how their friendship is. Pinkie's very protective of Fluttershy in GTBO, but I'd have thought that, as with Cranky, Pinkie should feel the need to tone down around Pinkie...

>>36794118
>>36794140
>>36794218
>>36794276
>>36794290
I generally don't care much about what the staff have to say about the show, but
>I just find that Jim tends to come off as an arrogant blowhard.
...Does seem likely from where I'm standing.

Kind of odd that Hasbro lets someone who posts without thinking talk about their show online! I imagine that company rules restricting that will probably become more common and gradually reduce the fun fan-staff interactions, which will be a shame seeing as how some staff members are great at that.

>>36794290
I thought the start was adorable. Brushie-brushie-polecat!

Ep aside, it's really nice to return to /pony/ and find it less hostile (e.g. this thread has 200 posts and only a couple of mildly spiteful ones)! It's a big relief.
>> No. 36794296
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it is good when almost everyone can live happily ever after...
until the nest highschool girl movie comes along. thats right, im talking about boo york boo york.
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>>36794293
>Pinkie should feel the need to tone down around Pinkie...

nah
>> No. 36794301
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That was a good opening. Fluttershy being around her animals always lends itself to good scenes (like when they were decorating the castle and she crammed it full of animals).

Angel slamming the door at the end sold it though XD


>Ep aside, it's really nice to return to /pony/ and find it less hostile (e.g. this thread has 200 posts and only a couple of mildly spiteful ones)! It's a big relief.

Agreed; Things have gotten alot more chill here lately. I think its due to S4 not having much controversy and being universally looked at as much, MUCH higher quality than S3. Even RR was better than EQG.

>>36794017

You know, whats kind of funny is though; what they did to make the castle look nice is EXACTLY the "solution" to the Shake your tail short and chapter from RR; except in that one they somehow implied that slamming all their crap together looked good while here its horrific.

While there's the difference of them trying to make the home for twilight here compared to just a band them for the shorts, the premise of "Everything mashed together would look like crap" should still hold true ;p XD


>>36794298

>Too many pinkie pies 2: electric scootaloo
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>>36794301
>I think its due to S4 not having much controversy and being universally looked at as much, MUCH higher quality than S3. Even RR was better than EQG.

Which are still both incorrect.
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>>36794303
No, no, EQG2 was indeed better than EQG1; it's just a very marginal "better".
>> No. 36794305
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Okay yes, by most objective standards RR was "better". But still not good enough to actually get me to care about the plot, therefore, EqG1 wins because it has THIS and RR doesn't.
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>>36794293
YOU ARE A CHOAD.
>> No. 36794307
>>36794232
He isn't the only one.
>> No. 36794308
>>36794307
Don't mind him, he's got an irrational hatred of Anons.
>> No. 36794309
I was hoping they'd make a bookcase out of her old tree. Poo. Also the whole "spike is an effeminate dragon" is getting old too.

Snowflake was pretty good, oddly enough his role makes sense. And then those two bluepink pones had voices. Background pones!

I feel AJ's "down on the farm" antics are getting annoying. Redneck was never her personality (thinking of Ep 1/2 too of course)
>> No. 36794311
>Agreed; Things have gotten alot more chill here lately. I think its due to S4 not having much controversy and being universally looked at as much, MUCH higher quality than S3. Even RR was better than EQG.

That likely has more to do with people with less popular opinions being banned and others simply leaving altogether since the end of season 3.

This may just be me and it may be too early to say so, but opinions feel more homogeneous across the board then they have in a long time.
>> No. 36794315
>>36794311
I just came by because I caught up with the episodes, it's hard to get them at Uni.

I do hate some things with the new episodes! I am still angry!

Rainbow Dash for example: will her personality always be going fast and saying awesome?
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>>36794309
>Also the whole "spike is an effeminate dragon" is getting old too.

Wait what? I honestly didn't get that vibe at ALL in this episode. Its just a joke about "haha, he's a dragon, dragon's have claws and that's kind of like nails".
The joke about him wanting his claws done was more like the joke in Ticketmaster about him wanting gems to eat, its just a call to attention that he's a dragon and that's different.

Given how the last episode had spike obsessing over sports, I don't think they're in much of overusing spike being "effeminate" as a joke.


>>36794311

The only person that I know of that's been perma'd from /pony is dulset, unless they were anonymous.

So I don't think bans are the big reason.

>>36794305

rainbow rocks has rarity in a daft punk costume, your argument is invalid.
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>>36794311
Really, there were only 4 people (that I remember) that were either painfully negative about the show, or an asshole about their opinions, or both. And all 4 of them are either gone or banned, so...yeah I guess you're right.

>>36794315
Yeah, RD seems to be slipping back to her S2 characterization...not really liking that.

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>>36794298
>Pinkie should feel the need to tone down around Pinkie...
Oops.

I meant that Fluttershy should feel the need to tone down around Flutte- wait...

>>36794301
>Angel slamming the door at the end sold it though XD
Ha, that was cute!

>Agreed; Things have gotten alot more chill here lately. I think its due to S4 not having much controversy and being universally looked at as much, MUCH higher quality than S3. Even RR was better than EQG.
That must have helped, but discussing S4 still felt rather... Unpleasant, here, to be honest. Was a far cry from the community-vibe I found during S2.

>>36794306
Phew, thanks for evening that out a bit!

>>36794311
>>Agreed; Things have gotten alot more chill here lately. I think its due to S4 not having much controversy and being universally looked at as much, MUCH higher quality than S3. Even RR was better than EQG.
>That likely has more to do with people with less popular opinions being banned and others simply leaving altogether since the end of season 3.
2 of the 4 I saw most regularly stirring up arguments are still here though. Though maybe they helped kick each other off, or people have just get better at not reacting to potential drama...

>This may just be me and it may be too early to say so, but opinions feel more homogeneous across the board then they have in a long time.
I think it's just too early: Apart from a few people who thought the premiere was anti-communism and a handful of others who thought CSC was AMAZING, "eh, they were okay" has been the normal reaction to the first 3 eps as I've seen them.

I'm sure we'll have a controversial ep come up soon!
>> No. 36794325
>>36794316
Like I said it's not just bans. I really think that quite a few people, particularly the ones who are most ardently ant-twilicorn have stopped watching or have stopped voicing their opinions. I guess that was kind of inevitable, but it's weird to see now.
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>>36794325
It is quite peaceful around here without people crying about Twilight "hijacking" every other episode.
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>>36794326

Well *I* still cry about that. You haven't gotten rid of us yet!
>> No. 36794328
>>36794326
>Twilight hijacking episode
But literally that happened at the end of the second parter!
>oh thanks everybody for saving us, we need friends
>but yeah total uber Princess Friendship friends friends magic
At least for a scene or two she was told to shut up.

I hope someday we get a three-parter that isn't gross humans, or like, a real seasonal arc going on that isn't a plot device collect-a-thon
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>>36794328
If you think it was Twilight and Twilight alone who solved the conflict, you're grasping at straws and/or ignoring huge parts of the episode.
>> No. 36794331
>>36794328
Sure, if you ignore the fact that it was Fluttershy who figured out Starbright's secret, or that it was the normal townsponies who helped them recover their cutie marks
>> No. 36794336
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Season 4 is better by default. It's got 13 more episodes.

>>36794309
>And then those two bluepink pones had voices. Background pones!
>vid

>>36794311
>but opinions feel more homogeneous across the board then they have in a long time.
Sigh, if only we could all agree to despise EqG.

>>36794316
>The only person that I know of that's been perma'd from /pony is dulset
Heyzeus Christ what happened?
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>>36794336

I... don't feel comfortable discussing the circumstances of that. I don't like to feel like i'm talking about others when they can't respond.
You might want to message someone from here on skype or whatnot for a full description.
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>>36794336
I'll say my memories of what happened, but I'll try providing a couple threads for you to read what happened.

Well originally this started right before Rainbow Rocks was coming out back in September. People would complain about EqG, and Dulset would use arguments like saying some people only dislike it because it doesn't have ponies since a lot of the criticisms could be applied to season 4. You can see it in the original season 5 thread, as it basically closed out the thread before a new one was made.
http://www.ponychan.net/chan/ep/res/46656+50.html

Things escalated, tempers raised, until eventually it go to the point where mods got involved. Because of Dulset's behavior and the arguments he seemed to spark, he went under scrutiny before the discussion moved to /meta/.
http://www.ponychan.net/chan/meta/res/161540.html

He eventually was given a second chance, but around Christmas time he still got into some arguments, I think something about Flutterhulk (I'm less sure about what threads this happened), mods got involved and they felt he hadn't learned his lesson so he was banned again.

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>> No. 36794342
>>36794316
>The only person that I know of that's been perma'd from /pony is dulset
Also Manley.
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>>36794342
Technically he isn't anymore.
>> No. 36794345
>>36794344
Ha ha, true, true.
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>>36794344
>>36794345

I thought he was still perma'd from pony, just not the site in general?

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>> No. 36794347
>>36794340

How uncomfortably entertaining.
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>>36794340
>>36794347
Yeah. In short, he seemed to enjoy starting arguments and sparking up negativity; frequently arguing things that weren't 100% explicitly stated, and using "it wasn't explicitly stated!!" as his defense. Even really blatantly obvious things like the Alicorn Amulet, he vehemently argued that it WAS NOT a reference to winged+horned ponies, solely because it wasn't explicitly stated.

Got threatened by a mod to cut it out, proceeded to go to /meta/ and proclaim that the mods were shit while claiming he had done nothing wrong, and...yeah, you can read the thread.

But enough about someone who has been banned for months. Back to pone.
>> No. 36794351
>>36794346
No, he's no longer banned from /pony/, he's now banned from the site (again)
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>>36794290

it started out good initially with twilight but i mean the middle-beginning was kind of too dependent on past characterization, though that's probably tough to avoid in an episode where everypony is making their friend feel at home; the episode also seemed to have some of the ponies act out of character:

applejack being polite and not admitting the truth (she should have been the first to admit) counter-argument: applejack is such good friends with everypony she didn't say anything

rainbow dash and rarity evilly hoof-bumping at applejack's expense which is unprecedented in the absence of that being part of a chain of events leading to the climax of said episode (this shouldn't have happened) counter-argument: they were fighting; counter-counter-argument: casual fights in the show shouldn't exist without it ending in a lesson (ex: season 2, episodes 1 & 2)

spike being treated like a slave by the mane 6 (this is pretty normal, (ex: running of the leaves)), but we were always left to speculate exactly how it happened until now

rarity casually manipulating spike for her own purposes (this is arguably unprecedented) counter-argument: but it was for her friends; counter-counter-argument (is spike not her friend?)

twilight kicking her friend fluttershy's favorite pet into the mud: while we have seen twilight go crazy before and do ridiculous things, we have never seen her go crazy when the theme of the episode didn't directly warrant it

based on the above situations, this episode has a lot of depth, in terms of past episodes, as we see a lot of glimmers from past episodes shining through this one: the question remains, however, whether or not these glimmers are actual glimmers or if the writers are losing touch with the ponies' core personalities - i guess we will see in later episodes which direction it will go; overall, im not sure if the ponies are becoming evil or if these are just them showing that they're not perfect

so given the context it was a good episode, though i would like to see more character-building episodes in the future...

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>>36794352
In general, the characterization in this episode felt weird. Pinkie was exaggerated, RD was exaggerated, Rarity was slightly exaggerated, and all of them suddenly started being assholes to each other, like...Merriweather levels of "asshole" to each other.

Looks like the new writers still have some learning to do.

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>>36794352
>>36794353


I just don't see this argument that the mane six were being assholes. They can bicker occasionally without it meaning they're assholes; heck, AJ and rarity's entire friendship is practically built on bickering.

the sniping felt funny and perfectly in character.




I will agree that RD felt a little off though; I hope its temporary, as it seems to be S2 style characterization for her focusing on "awesome".

I will note that this tends to flare up in the absence of them focusing on her other aspects as a character (Wonderbolts focus or pegasi leadership) for some reason.
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>>36794353

that's a pretty good analysis - the characterization did feel weird - like the ponies' traits were exaggerated, combined with a bit too much of the ponies spontaneously coming up with the same ideas throughout... like somepony used the "sharpen" filter one too many times

>suddenly started being assholes to each other

yeah, i just looked over that hoofbump scene again and it's really awful... i haven't seen that level of discord since the first time discord showed up, which is probably why it feels weird - combine that with the way applejack has no reaction at all to what they did, and it causes that weird/uneasy feeling; i think fluttershy was a bit meaner than usual too

the writers shouldn't be trying to get cheap laughs by writing episodes on the basis of "oh - u know wat would be really funny? if pony_x did this because pony_x would normally do x_event"

i don't think i can add this episode to the Sacred MLP Episodes List, on the basis of what i previously described, though the theme is there and i cried, but it was just a bit too caddywhompus, requiring some awkward explanations for behavior to really work, spiritually-speaking... but this is just an initial and rough analysis
>> No. 36794357
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maybe it's because the situation doesn't really warrant arguing... or delaying twilight at all - the ponies are arguing to a great extent over absolutely nothing (compared to what they're normally up against), which makes it seem excessive (though the hoofbump really was excessive and possibly fluttershy's passive-agressive behavior) - all they had to do was tell twilight that they needed a little more time to figure things out - the spike delaying everything was pointless, and the ponies arguing over a movable deadline makes it seem like their arguments must be coming from a deeper stressor - perhaps the fact that their special talents make them think they're better than everypony else just a suggestion

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>> No. 36794366
>>36794353
I dunno, I'd call that "asshole behavior" if they kept it up through the episode, but they dropped the act fairly quickly. Yes, they're friends, but they can still get snippy with eachother.
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>>36794366

Agreed.
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>>36794366

It might be just because it's already close to episode 100, and a little bit of "Green is Not Your Color"'s moral is seeping through. I don't mind them getting snippy, but them pretending to like each other's design choices when they hate it makes me think "Come on guys you've been friends long enough to say your real feelings to your friends"

And I'm sorry but I can't get over the fact that Applejack just dumped a ton of dirt on the floor. Damn hillbillies have more sense than that.
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>>36794338
>I don't like to feel like i'm talking about others when they can't respond.
This is a good attitude! Passive-aggressive sniping doesn't help anyone.

>>36794350
>Even really blatantly obvious things like the Alicorn Amulet, he vehemently argued that it WAS NOT a reference to winged+horned ponies, solely because it wasn't explicitly stated.
I still support that. If I made a sword out of pastry with a hilt in the shape of an aardvark and used it to slay dandelions while comparing its might to that of a giraffe and planning for it to be used by pedants, I might name it after any of those words in bold because of their relation to it. The amulet certainly doesn't rule out that "alicorn" may also be a substance in FIM's world (as the word used to mean a unicorn's horn substance in ours).

>>36794327
Yeah!

>>36794352
>>36794354
>>36794357
They had just put their all into trying to make the place homely, dragging all of it from theirs and being ready to part with it for the sake of a friend, and... It looked crap. Have you ever done redecorating? It isn't the type of thing to make you feel friendly when you've done your best and it's gone wrong. I think they could have looked a little more tired out to emphasise it, but I think they were mostly just a tad exhausted and irritated rather than not considering each other to be friends.

>>36794368
>but them pretending to like each other's design choices when they hate it makes me think "Come on guys you've been friends long enough to say your real feelings to your friends"
I think they were briefly in denial about it? Or hoping they could convince themselves they didn't just waste their time?

It didn't last long.

>And I'm sorry but I can't get over the fact that Applejack just dumped a ton of dirt on the floor. Damn hillbillies have more sense than that.
Yeah, that was... Not good. It's not well lit enough for plants and I bet Granny doesn't let her grandkids tread dirt around the house. It belongs OUTSIDE!

But then, like with Rarity's style actually fitting in really well, if AJ had brought on the proper country house charm it really might have made the place look homely and comfortable, and the point of the ep was that they failed.

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>>36794371
>The amulet certainly doesn't rule out that "alicorn" may also be a substance in FIM's world

Again, "it wasn't explicitly stated!!!" is not a good argument. The amulet outright, full-on depicted a horse with a horn and wings. That is more than enough of a blatant connection to the name. If the writers truly intended "Alicorn" to mean its substance and not its appearance, they wouldn't have designed the amulet to depict a horse with wings and a horn.

Honestly, it's like arguing that Rarity's parents are not her parents, solely because we haven't seen her birth certificate in the show. "It wasn't explicitly stated!" is a highly flimsy argument.

>>36794366
Yeah, friends can be "snippy" with each other. But god damn, they were full-on bluntly insulting each other. Even FLUTTERSHY was getting pissy and angry. It was a bit excessive, in relation to what they were arguing over.

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>> No. 36794376
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i agree they should be able to tell each other how they really feel by now - im guessing the writers didn't bother to watch that episode - it should be a requirement for all new writers to watch all previous episodes, with pay, or we'll keep getting episodes where they do things like this

>applejack just dumped a ton of dirt on the floor

lol oh yeah - i felt the same way - i was like "seriously applejack?" then i thought "well i guess she does like dirt a lot... and sun... and seeing all that sun coming through those giant windows probably inspired her love of dirt and sun to the point of making her crazy" ...actually i didn't think on it that far, but that's the only explanation i can think of right now - again, their characterization felt really exaggerated: she could have at least used potted plants...

video related

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>>36794374
>Again, "it wasn't explicitly stated!!!" is not a good argument.
At this point, that seems to be your argument for why alicorn can't also be the unicorn horn substance.

Referring you back to my sword example, there's no reason that the alicorn amulet can't be an amulet made out of alicorn with the design of an alicorn to be used against alicorns by alicorns and have its strength compared to that of alicorns.

The amulet as proof of winged unicorns being called "alicorns" is quite old hat at this point, since we've had that directly confirmed since. Really, there's no point in returning to the "how was the amulet named" discussion unless one's into speculating on the mysteries of the amulet itself (i.e. its creation, purpose, and history), which doesn't seem to be your thing.

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>>36794377
>At this point, that seems to be your argument for why alicorn can't also be the unicorn horn substance.

....That's not what I'm arguing?

Dulset's original thread was arguing that the "Alicorn Amulet" is NOT referring to winged/horned ponies. And "it wasn't explicitly stated so hah!" was his only defense, pretty much.

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>> No. 36794379
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>>36794378
Oh, THAT thread! As I recall, that thread was because the milder "it doesn't actually prove it" point was being ignored in the main thread, so a new thread was started with a deliberately over-the-top claim as its subject (as was admitted during the thread).

...Yeah... Moving swiftly on, was anyone else secretly hoping they'd redecorate the outside of the castle a bit?
>> No. 36794380
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no it looks perfect as is
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>>36794379
Yeah, the "crystal" theme is still gaudy as hell, and sticks out like a sore thumb in the middle of Ponyville.
>> No. 36794382
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hardly - there's really no better castle for twilight sparkle, philosophically and spiritually-speaking: it's a crystal tree, taking on both the properties of a tree (rooted, stable, serene - yet mysterious and wondrous in its multiple branches, indicating multiple paths, which relate to twilight's friends) and a crystal (multi-faceted, nuanced, deep - which relate more to twilight sparkle herself and is representative of her ascension to immortality)

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>>36794381

The rest of Ponyville was really due for some renovations anyway.
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if by "renovations" u mean friendship then i agree

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>>36794382
And it goes so well with the rest of Twilight's empire and her cutie mark! ...Wait...
>> No. 36794388
>>36794387

no - no need to wait - as twilight is the princess of friendship it does go great with her empire - all of equestria, including the crystal empire

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>> No. 36794390
>>36794381
Never mind that the exterior of the castle is just fuck ugly.

I mean, look at how perfectly balanced Canterlot is. You can barely even distinguish the castle in particular from the rest of the city, and the whole thing is very well proportioned.

Even the Crystal Empire's ridiculous how-do-I-even-get-inside-this-thing tower is aesthetically decent.

Then you've got this hideous monstrosity that literally looks like someone just fucking glued a two-storey semidetached on top of a tree and then stuck a fucking balcony on the side. It's unbalanced, the proportions are shit, it looks amateurish and stupid. The whole thing reeks of "some marketing jackass designed this in about three hours" rather than actually being constructed by anyone who knows anything about architecture. Or art. Or visual design. Or aesthetics. Or anyone with functioning eyesight.
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>>36794381
>>36794390
Always the chance it'll regenerate into a new playset castle during the finale!
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>>36794390

hence why it fits Twilight perfectly
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>>36794390
>how-do-I-even-get-inside-this-thing tower
There are doors on each of the four legs that hold the tower.
>> No. 36794394
>>36794393
im not an architec, but that woulndt make the structre more... weak?

and it is a giant structure, unless it is shallow like the eifel tower.
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>>36794394

It's magic!
>> No. 36794396
>>36794395
thats exactly what i was thinking will be the solution
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>>36794390
Very much this. There is no real way to defend this Castle from an Asthetic Standpoint, and there sure as hell isn't any fucking way to defend this Castle from a "Twilight Sparkle" standpoint, either. Her being a completely awkward dork in her ideal form doesn't mean that she doesn't have personal tastes that would influence her living quarters. If Hasbro were truly making these new toys to suit the characters, we would've gotten something like Belle's Library with like 2000 more rooms to go with it.

Beyond that... This episode was actually better than I thought it was going to be. Then again, I expected Rarity and Friends to act like complete idiots with only Twilight to save them from themselves, so it was a plus that it didn't happen.

That being said, there's not going to be much about this episode that sticks with me besides the rest of the Mane 6 being able to walk and chew gum at the same time (Not to mention Rarity being a genius when allowed to be.). This really came across as a clip show centered around connecting a past home and memories to a future one. Twilight Sparkle was tolerable here, but this episode cemented that my love affair with her is pretty much over. I hope this Season actually allows the rest of the Mane 6 to continue and develop individual stories that are both independent of her, and have a lasting impact on their characters.

Though I will say that the fight scene could've become a cringe-worthy nightmare. if it went on longer, thankfully they kept it short and sweet.

Overall... not an offensive episode, but not one that'll stay with me either.

Final Note: Don't worry, Big Jim. I'm sure I'll have a real bone to pick with the creative staff this season. It just won't be today, because episodes like this happen.
>> No. 36794400
>>36794398

i think the tree looks nice - idk why someponies don't like it: it is a tree, afterall... saying that trees are ugly has to be the height of hypocrisy...

and philosophically-speaking, the fact that twilight lives in a tree rather than a hoof-made castle indicates her inherent connection with everypony in equestria as the Princess of Friendship, rather than Celestia and Luna who are princesses of immovable objects: ex: friendship is fluid (see Season 5, episdoes 1 and 2), therefore a tree is the best choice, and as i explained previously, a crystal tree is even better
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>>36794398
<Castle makes the cut through Hasbro's and an entire animation Studio's staff.
>There is no real way to defend this Castle from an Aesthetic Standpoint
Woooah there, Octave Mirbeau.
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>>36794400
>i think the tree looks nice - idk why someponies don't like it: it is a tree, afterall... saying that trees are ugly has to be the height of hypocrisy...

Misinterpreting someone else's argument to insult them is the height of strawmen.

People don't like the new castle because it doesn't fit in Ponyville.

You have thatched-roof houses, basic wooden buildings, brick construction....and then a gigantic crystalline structure off to one side.

Gigantic crystal castle does not fit in with thatched-roof cottages.

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>> No. 36794404
>>36794403

it's not like she's the princess of ponyville - she is the princess of friendship, so of course it's not going to look similar & trees go with everything, and there are a lot of trees in ponyville and equestria, so i don't see how it doesn't fit in
>> No. 36794405
>>36794404
you forget that it isnt a tree, it is a crystal structure.
is like putting a giant tree made of meat on the crystal empire and say "it fits perfectly because is a tree"

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>> No. 36794407
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>>36794405

no, it's a tree structure
is like putting a giant crystal made of tree on the everfree forest and say "it fits perfectly because is a crystal"

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>> No. 36794409
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>> No. 36794410
>>36794409

Sweet Celestia im out
>> No. 36794411
>>36794410
well, a random video took him out some how

>is like putting a giant crystal made of tree on the everfree forest and say "it fits perfectly because is a crystal"

see, you got it

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<Here is a house that looks like a tree and fits in with Ponyville's theme whilst still standing out from the other buildings
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>>36794415
whats that?
non sense.
but put this at that building

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>>36794404
I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

The castle is not a tree, it's a crystal. Shaped kind-of like a tree.

And it still does not match any of the other buildings in Ponyville. That's why people don't like it.
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>>36794401

Except if hasbro's marketing says "Fuck it we think this will sell" it WILL be put in the show instead of being redesigned.
>> No. 36794423
>>36794421
According to who? Where does Hasbro designing it first come from, instead of them just giving notes back on designs made by the show?
>> No. 36794424
>>36794423
who you think is the one which choose how the toys will look better?

the show staff or the toy deparment?
>> No. 36794426
>>36794424
The show staff makes the stuff for the show first, the toy department looks at it and asks for changes if they want it to look differently.
>> No. 36794427
>>36794426
the stuff hasbro ask for comes first, then the staff does stuff, and then hasbro change stuff if they please.

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>> No. 36794428
>>36794427
Even if they ask for something to be put in, the show staff would first design it for how it would look in the show and then get feedback from Hasbro.
>> No. 36794429
>>36794428
ergo, hasbro have the final word, and we dont know if this mean the Toy deparment get to push stuff or not.
>> No. 36794430
>>36794404
Because it's a gaudy overdesigned monstrocity that towers above Ponyville, sticking out due to not fitting in to it's rustic naturalistic aspect. It doesn't matter if it kinda looks like a tree, the aesthetic doesn't match the design of it's surroundings.

It's like going dressed as Santa Claus to a Halloween party and arguing that you still fit within the aesthetic of it because you're dressed up for the season. And the Santa costume is made out of discarded disco balls.

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>>36794430
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>>36794421
>>36794430
I guess I can see where you're coming from when you set the crystal castle in juxtapose to the rest of the village. It would fit in a lot more with the Crystal Empire (because crystals) than it does smack dab in the middle of Ponyville.

But hey, it's a magic crystal castle regurgitated by the tree avatar of the forces of harmony in Equestria. I can cut it some slack for looking a bit out of the ordinary, all things considered.
>> No. 36794433
>>36794432
It doesn't fucking FIT. I have seem some edits recoloring the castle to look more like a tree. WHY COULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN A GIANT TREE? It would be so much better if it was a giant tree with a castle treehouse.
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>>36794433
I, for one, applaud Twilight Sparkle's bravery in the face of the Ponyville neighborhood association.
>> No. 36794435
>>36794434
twilight had nothing to do with it, you should thank marketing
>> No. 36794440
>>36794381
It's not the middle of ponyville. As my breakdown explains, it is at the edge of town.
>> No. 36794441
>>36794440
That doesn't make it much better, it's still a part of the Ponyville landscape, it still doesn't fit.
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>>36794430

It's supposed to look like the Tree of Harmony
>> No. 36794447
>>36794444
You mean the OTHER tree with crummy design?

Sorry, but the Tree of Harmony still doesn't look particularely harmonious to me either, it's just another gaudy piece of crap made out of crystal, and it would have looked so much better if it was an actual tree.

Like the Mana Tree.
>> No. 36794450
>>36794447
>>36794444
beside, the tree of harmony?
what it is what does it acomplish?

because at the moment, the only reason we know the tree of harmony exist is to say "this is the origine of the elements of harmony"
and to give twilight a new playset and nothing else

is just another tool, like the Spell which transformed twilight into a princess.

or the mirror wich transport you to highschool world

they dont have a reason to exist except just being a marketing tool.
>> No. 36794451
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Somebody posted it on Youtube.
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>>36794451
>Posts a video like its news
>of an episode
>that's two day's old


Urda, I know you're a parasprite persona (there's no way you're REAL), but damn is that a bad joke.

>>36794444
>>36794447


Now, the tree of harmony itself has slightly grown on me in that I like its geometric design. Still, I would have much rather had a more organic tree.


The thing is, Crystals should be left to being the crystal empire's schtick. Different styles and asthetics are good because they're UNIQUE. You shouldn't have a single overriding design that gets used and used and used.
I mean, the mane six's houses all look different; it'd be like if you changed all their houses to look like the Rainbow rocks/Rainbow power design or something (Everyone's style mixed together).
Crystals are Cadence's thing, leave Twilight alone here.




Now, I LIKE crystals; its just that a better fit for twilight would be either a pure library asthetic, or an organic Living tree design.
Something like the ancients from WOW or something.
>Or image
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>>everypony

listen everypony - twilight's castle is a tree. that's made out of crystal. you can't get anymore awesome than that. trees are awesome. crystals are awesome. but a crystal tree is epic. how can somepony not see this, especially ponies who prefer organic trees: organic trees are awesome, but an organic crystal tree is at least 20% cooler.

and as far as the crystal empire is concerned - it is barely even canon, so the uniqueness of twilight's castle and the harmony tree remain

having one giant crystal tree to overlook ponyville and equestria is just perfect. praise alicorn princess of friendship twilight sparkle

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>and as far as the crystal empire is concerned - it is barely even canon
>> No. 36794457
>>36794455
Hey, shouldn't you be happy that your dislike for that episode is being validated by a fake religious leader?
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I think we all agree that Twilight's castle looks like a gaudy piece of shit that's going to be an eyesore for us the entire season.
>> No. 36794459
>>36794458
I am wholeheartedly all about the Princess arc, and even I can agree that it was a shit idea to displace Twilight from her library. She doesn't belong in some ostentatious fucking castle.
>> No. 36794460
>>36794459

This show has a great reputation of not falling back on an episodic "status quo is God" formula and likes to switch it up with life-altering events. As bad as the castle looks, it is still just a building and though it may not be going away for sometime as it just showed up, the writers could make a way to get rid of it if they don't think it works within the show's formula or if they run out of ideas of what to do with it.


Heck, I'm partly wondering if they ever turn Twilight back into a unicorn sometime down the road. It sounds silly I know, but if Twilight comes up with a good reason for turning back to normal/giving up her royal title, I think it could work. I'm also not against her being a princess. I want whatever the writing calls for.

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>>36794459

Its pretty much 100% impossible, but I'd love for the castle to somehow go "Super level 2!" or some crap and turn into a less crappy looking castle.

Like I think bollox said earlier (I think it was him?) have the tree chandelier "Eat" the castle or something and become the primary design of it or something.



But know that's pretty much insanity to hope for something like that, as this is pretty clearly permanent, and they wouldn't introduce something just to change it on a whim so quickly.



>>36794457


My Hatred for the episode is for completely different reasons than the Empire existing. I actually LIKE the empire in concept, and in backstory (especially now that we know it exists pretty much in order to imprison the Umbra beneath it).

So, while its STILL my least favorite episode of the entire series, and I hate everything about TCE, I want the empire to continue existing.
>> No. 36794464
>>36794463

Maybe this week's episode was actually the first of a season-long arc of Twilight renovating her castle, room by room.

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>>36794464

The finale's villain is actually the castle, as it violently fights against twilight's attempts to make it go.
>> No. 36794467
>>36794464
But they just said that they'd decorated all the other rooms off-screen and then never show them.
>> No. 36794468
>>36794447
Personally, I like the design of the Harmony Tree.

However, the tree is nice as an emblem. Its entire construction seems aesthetically designed around image. The castle, on the other hand, is an ugly sack of shit designed by some guy in a fucking toy designing committee with absolutely no thought to architectural integrity, artistic flair, or even basic visual aesthetics.
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>>36794454
Are you unable to accept the fact that people don't like something?

>an organic crystal tree is at least 20% cooler.
>20% cooler
>as far as the crystal empire is concerned - it is barely even canon
>praise alicorn princess of friendship twilight sparkle

Not sure if trolling or really this new to the fandom.
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Honestly, I'm not even big on the "crystal" building designs generally. I can see the appeal of using translucent plastic for playsets (helps keep rooms bright), but that chunky, irregular, blocky, design of the buildings in the show strikes me as unpleasant. The playsets themselves have gone for a more Canterlot-y look with occasional clear walls: Why couldn't that have worked for the show designs?

Twilight's castle looks like a little castle has been lifted up then overrun by a flood of ugly crystal growing up the side, like they're in serious need of limescale remover.

A very small number of artists have made the Crystal Empire look cool to me, but generally by making it look more like elegant glass shards or
<more organic crystal.

Funnily enough, if you Google Image "tree castle", I'd say most of those results are designs that would fit better. Hell, even the scratching post ones fit better (at least the colours are subdued and natural)...

>>36794464
>Maybe this week's episode was actually the first of a season-long arc of Twilight renovating her castle, room by room.
That would be pretty funny! S5: Fixing the castle.

>>36794455
>>36794470
Must be trolling.
>> No. 36794472
>>36794460
you will never, never never have the show saying "being a princess is something you shouldnt like"

and dont forget that pretty much twilight said "i have chosen being a princess"(even she have no option)

so making her surrender to that would be pretty lame, specially because we had like what, 3 years which keep hamering "twilight is learning to be a princess, she is always sad or confuse because princesses"
>> No. 36794473
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no r u

>>36794471

i never parasprite - i create - i am a game master

>>36794472

she did have the option to be a princess - every time she made a choice throughout the seasons that aligned with friendship, she took another step in that direction, spontaneously culminating in her ascension to princesshood - her choice from the very first season premiere
>> No. 36794474
>>36794473
no because pinkie pie do friendship as well and she isnt closer to princess hood, or any of her friends which care about each other.

in fact, it have being told "it is destiny", they use the "is your destiny " card, which pretty much forces everybody to what the prophecy say.

She embrace what she have to do when she say "i will be the princess of friendship" but it wasnt because she choose to go into that direction, but because she was transformed just because "was her destiny", so pretty much she had no option

sure, you coudl say it was twilight desition at the end because she say "it is my choise", but no, it is her destiny, that is what happen when you play the "destiny" card, everything become meaningless because it is just like that because a bigger froce is saying "it have to be that way"

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>> No. 36794476
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your points initially seem solid, but a little-known fact about reality is that destiny is a result of ones choices - once ones choices reach critical mass, ones destiny becomes apparent at which point a pony makes the final decision to accept it or reject it and find a new destiny - twilight chose to accept it and become the princess of friendship

so as you see, it wasn't just something that was thrown into twilight's hooves and she had to make a decision: it was the result of years of study and friendship that got her to the point where she was able to see above the cloud-layer and see what she could become and twilight liked the glimpse she saw and chose to embrace this destiny that she consciously created
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>>36794474

as far as pinkie and the other mane 6 go, pinkie pie is the element of laughter, so her destiny isn't going to be a princess of friendship; twilight's is magic (friendship is magic), so that's her destiny

pinkie pie will, however, probably become the princess of laughter in some future season
>> No. 36794480
>>36794476
i know destiny is supposed to be the result of events.

it doesnt matter if you die or live, what ever of the 2 happen, it was your destiny.

But the show is selling it as a phrophesy, twilight cutiemark is tatooed on the tree of harmony, so pretty much mean "this is the chosen one", when ever some one with this mark appear, it will solve everything because i say so.

and she do everything she do because the magic tree or even a superior force is saying so.

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>> No. 36794481
>>36794474

On one hand, yeah, Twilight in no way was planning on being a princess and it was entirely sprung on her by Celestia. I hesitate to use the phrased "forced into it" but it's difficult to look at the scene in Magical Mystery Cure and come up with a different conclusion.

However, it is well within Twilight's character for Celestia to say to Twilight to accept something and she does it without question. And one the reasons that MMC was so hotly debated and still is, is that Twilgiht was quite receptive of the role of Alicorn Princess. The only time we see her questioning if she was up to it was after the transformation. When she's like "Am I really up to the task of being a princess?" in Equestria Girls, and the S4 premiere/finale It's like "Tough titties, Twilight. You don't have a choice in the matter. You better get ready"

I know the real reason for the change: marketing n toys n stuff, but I'm trying to view all of this from an in-universe perspective.
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>>36794481
From the in-universe perspective.

why we think it was Celestia's plan?
and not the tree.
apparently the tree have more control over stuff we give it credit for.

It gave twilight a complete command center, and from there she send them on work for his dirty work of harmony.

So it knew about all the celestia, luna and twilight bussiness way back, and then it knew the mane 6, and then she send them to do stuff, and we dont know how, when, or interest of the tree or what ever force is over the tree controling everything.

we could say is the good version of "the door"
controling everything from the shadows, and making everybody else do its job, because even it look it isnt doing anything and other characters are working, in reality, is all part of his bigger plan.

or it end up being that the tree of harmony was the door all along, and is the Series finale when it rule over everything because have being controling everybody since the start of the show.
making twilight go into princess hood so later can corrupt her and like everybody love her it will be hard to get rid of her.
>> No. 36794483
>>36794480

no i don't think so - just because the elements are on the tree doesn't mean she has to be the princess of friendship: she could have given up her cutiemark and become an equal, but she chose not to - she can always change her mind any time she wants: just because an old tree has her cutiemark on it doesn't mean anything without her choices

>>36794481

her princesshood was the spontaneous result of her choices she made every day in ponyville: nopony chooses what the circumstances they're born with, but they can choose what to do with them, and twilight chose to make friends, which lead to her being faced with the decision of becoming a princess, which she accepted
>> No. 36794484
>>36794482

trees aren't evil - the tree of harmony is a reflection of the ponies' of the times dreams and aspirations, springing up from them

twilight sparkle is the natural continuation of these dreams in pony form - she is certainly a product of the past, but it's her choices that make her so - not the past alone: u can't force anypony to do something - that is slavery, not friendship
>> No. 36794485
>>36794483
is her destiny, she cant say no. because at the end of the day, she will say yes.

she cant change her mind because they claim that being a princess is her destiny

and that the old tree has her cutiemark means it is her destiny because i think it was mention on a book or something that the cutiemark on the tree mean it is going to be the chosen one.

that is what happen when you have a major force telling you what is going to happen, any kind of "free" will is gone, except if the prophecy end up being a lie, which in this case, it isnt.

>>36794484
just because it is controling everything from the shadows that doesnt mean it is evil.

except if it result to be the door (by the way, this of being the door is a joke)

PS, i think you are making up alot of that stuff.
>> No. 36794486
>>36794482
>why we think it was Celestia's plan?

That's simple. We talk about how much of an impact that fate or destiny had on Twilight transforming into an alicorn, but at the end of the day, Celestia was the one who made it happen. As for the tree of harmony, I don't have much of an explanation of why it gave Twilight a castle, but I think that will be revealed to us this season. We already got a pretty good idea of what it wants the mane six to do with the Cutie Map.

>>36794483

I'm just wondering what made her accept the role outside of Celestia's influence. When has she ever stated she wanted to be a princess before she became one?
>> No. 36794487
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>>36794486
i think it is mention on some book or some where that celestia is the one who saw Twilights cutiemark on the tree, so she knew that would be the pony chosen one.

so it is because is on the tree's big plan, and we have stablish that the tree is sentiant, and it mision is to spread friendship around the world.
>> No. 36794488
>>36794484

>the tree of harmony is a reflection of the ponies' of the times dreams and aspirations, springing up from them

Is that from the Celestia/Luna book? Maybe I don't remember that line being spoken in the show, but I don't think where the tree of harmony's origins was ever touched on. I could be wrong though.
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>>36794485

that's ridiculous - twilight can say no whenever she wants. it's easy to sit behind a computer screen on Earth and say "this is her destiny because this is a children's show and hasbro would never have her betray her pony friends and they need to keep selling toys and ive seen a million shows like this before where the main characters follow the prophecies of magical trees" but keep in mind twilight doesn't know any of that, and even if she did, do you think it would change anything? i think saying such things says more about the pony sitting behind the computer than it does twilight

friendship is a powerful force - destiny is created by twilight's choices. if twilight became an equal, how do you know space and time wouldn't change to accommodate the fact? considering you're part of time itself, if twilight changed her mind and didn't want to become a princess anymore, you could be completely unaware of it, as time is linked to your memories, so when time changes, so would your memories...

tldr: twilight is best pony
>> No. 36794490
>>36794488

no - it's my headcannon
>> No. 36794491
>>36794489
but they say is her destiny, and not on a vague maner, but pretty much because is a mayor force telling so. and im not talking about the hasbro excecutive, but an in world force.

and no, when you have a prophecy, or a written destiny, there is not such thing as free will.

it isnt because she choosed, but because the tree say so.

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>> No. 36794492
>>36794487
The Princess Diary book is actually at my local library. Some time I will have to check it out.

>>36794490

Well like I said, I think this season may reveal more intentions about the castle and the Cutie Map, and as a result more information about the tree of harmony & the elements.
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>>36794473
>no r u
>i never parasprite - i create - i am a game master
>pinkie pie will, however, probably become the princess of laughter in some future season
>her princesshood was the spontaneous result of her choices she made every day in ponyville
>i think saying such things says more about the pony sitting behind the computer than it does twilight
>tldr: twilight is best pony

Yep, obvious troll is obvious.

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>> No. 36794499
>>36794491

lolno

>>36794492

the cutiemap is a manifestation of twilight's desires to spread friendship across equestria - it is not a guiding force - it is a manifestation of twilight's decision
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>>36794498

lolno

i am just too mentally advanced 4 u

get on my level
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>>36794477
>pinkie pie will, however, probably become the princess of laughter in some future season


I can pretty much guarantee that will never happen, to the point I'd more or less bet my left testicle.
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>>36794499
>the cutiemap is a manifestation of twilight's desires to spread friendship across equestria - it is not a guiding force - it is a manifestation of twilight's decision

Is that also head canon?
>> No. 36794520
>>36794517
His facts are so solid from his point of view because is his really stretched head cannon
>> No. 36794527
>>36794499
It didn't "manifest" until their plots were all on the thrones at the same time. Hard to see how it could be desire driven.
>> No. 36794529
>>36794517
>>36794520
>>36794527


Enlightened just really, really believes in his headcanon. its best to tune him out when he gets a bit crazy, he's not a bad guy besides that.
>> No. 36794545
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>>36794529

gee, thanks anon - even though it's text... ive waited my whole life for somepony to say that about me ur a swell guy as well
>> No. 36794566
>>36794527

What places do you think the map will send them?
>> No. 36794590
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>>36794566

Las pegasus for that "special" time of the month. Rainbow dash Is in charge of picking destinations, like chippencolts.
>> No. 36794693
Is this the first time a good episode had a shitty song? Usually it's the inverse.
>> No. 36794696
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  >>36794693

I still don't get everyone coming down on the song. Its loads better than stuff like My big brother or Bats, and I think it was nice.
>> No. 36794698
>>36794566
Down to Wacky Willy's for 20% off all value meals, but only for a limited time! I hope Toilet Sprinkles has to sit through a 30 second Matthew McConaughey Lincoln commercial before the map shows them anything. I hope the map has iOS updates or Adobe Flashplayer crashes.

>>36794696
This song absolutely leg sweeps any enjoyment I built up in the episode up until that point, and I have to start again.
>> No. 36794699
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>>36794696
Hm, lemme put it this way, just for you. While the rest of the fandom was comparing it to Art of the Dress, I was struggling to find any differences between it and The Ballad of the Crystal Empire. Though I don't think that song was poorly received at the time, and though some of us here may like or dislike that song and its episode independently, at the very least you could say it makes Make This Castle a Home...unoriginal.
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>>36794699

alright, fair enough

>>36794698

/angrily judging intensifies

>Down to Wacky Willy's for 20% off all value meals, but only for a limited time! I hope Toilet Sprinkles has to sit through a 30 second Matthew McConaughey Lincoln commercial before the map shows them anything. I hope the map has iOS updates or Adobe Flashplayer crashes.


Nah man, its just going to ask them to pay for Gems with their credit cards first before it'll let them go on their adventures.
>> No. 36794701
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>>36794698
>>36794700
"I'm Princess Twilight Sparkle, and this is my favorite store in Canterlot."
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In general, just about all songs in S3 and beyond have been kinda "meh" to me.

Not bad, just nowhere near as good as S1/S2.
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>>36794704
Yes.
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